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Athens Board of Zoning Appeals - November 10, 2020
A
President
tonight,
our
members,
ms
lisa
carson,
mr
john
goodaconst,
mr
joe
cross,
miss
k,
towsley
and
our
alternate
member
is
mr
robert
de
lac.
I
am
john
golzi,
the
chair
also
a
president.
We
have
a
zoning
administrator,
mr
david
riggs
and
secretary
ms
kerry
yak,
and
also
the
folks
from
the
government
channel.
A
A
A
According
to
athens
city
code,
section
230703b,
the
board
has
power
to
grant
variances
from
this
strict
application
of
the
code,
provided
the
variance
will
not
be
contrary
to
the
public
interest.
The
spirit
of
the
code
is
observed,
public
safety
and
welfare
are
secured
and
substantial
justice
is
done.
A
Any
person,
resident
or
officer
department
or
appointed
body
of
the
city
of
athens,
aggrieved
by
a
decision
of
the
board,
may
petition
the
athens
county
court
of
common
police
concerning
the
illegality
of
the
decision.
Such
petition
must
be
filed
within
30
days
after
the
mailing
of
the
decision
of
the
board
to
the
applicant.
A
A
A
A
From
the
code
office,
mr
riggs,
do
you
have
any
comments
for
this
case
or
good
evening.
B
C
Chair,
thank
you.
We
looked
at
this
application
that
came
in
and,
as
you
said,
even
though
it's
in
an
r
or
it's
in
a
b3
business
zone,
that
would
typically
be
permitted.
But
if
you
look
at
title
230407
a
three,
it
says
that
drive-ins
drive
throughs
eating
and
drinking
establishments.
A
I
recall
we
had
a
case
about
maybe
a
year
ago
and
and
our
secretary
was
kind
enough
to
to
find
the
cases
was
284
east
estate
street
and
they
were
looking
for
a
it
wasn't
exactly
a
drive-through.
It
was
a
window
pickup
and
that
case
was
denied.
D
Point
of
clarification,
you
did
say
riggs
that
within
200
feet
within
a
r1
or
r2
zone,
because
there
is,
it
is
an
r2
zone.
We're
talking
about
here.
If
you
look
at
the
zoning
map,
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
correct,
because
there.
E
E
Take
their
own
mutes
off
if
they're,
not
speaking,
please
I'm
getting
a
lot
of
flack
here.
Yeah
thank.
F
Yes,
go
ahead
as
described
it
says.
Drive-Through
and
retail,
and
I
wonder,
is
is
the
objection
that
we've
had
some
letters
objecting
to
this
project?
Is
it
the
drive-through
that
they're
objecting
to
are
they
objecting
to
the
whole
thing?
Would
it
be
possible
to
allow
the
retail
store
without
the
drive
through?
I
don't
I'm
not.
I
guess.
Maybe
the
appellant
can
clarify
what
options
he's
interested.
A
In
okay,
any
other
questions
before
we
go
to
mr
mark
scott.
G
G
It
states
that
the
distance
from
our
property
to
the
joining
property
is
70
feet,
I'm
not
sure
exactly
where
that
number
came
from
the
distance
from
the
rear
of
the
building,
and
we
are
talking
about
the
the
porter
automotive
building
there
on
each
state
from
the
rear
of
the
building
to
the
fence
privacy
fence
that
separates
the
residential
area
from
the
commercial
area
is
actually
95
feet,
not
70
feet.
G
So,
if
that's
the
distance
I'd
like
to
make
that
correction
and
just
to
address
the
one
question
that
was
was
put
forth
by
the
participant,
it
isn't
an
issue
with
the
use
right
now.
It's
really
only
that
distance
separation
and
that
distance
separation
of
200
feet
does
not
exist
for
any
of
the
adjoining
properties.
Now,
of
course,
it
may
not
apply
to
all
of
them
either,
because
the
200
foot
is
only
applicable
to
a
drive-through.
It's
a
special
requirement.
G
I'm
not
actually
sure
why
that
requirement
is
in
the
code
there.
There
may
be
a
logical
explanation
for
it,
I'm
not
sure,
but
the
separation
distance
for
some
of
the
other
properties
nearby
are
46
feet,
72
feet
and
107
feet
on
the
adjoining
properties
to
commercial
areas.
G
C
No,
it
could
it's
possible
that
we
were
measuring
from
the
property
line
instead
of
the
building.
It
is
the
it
is
the
distance
from
the
building
principal
building
to
the
nearest
r1
or
r2
zone,
so
that
20
feet
could
be
the
difference
that
is
being
indicated.
There
would
also
try
to
clarify
this
that
this
is
any
eating
or
drinking
establishment.
C
C
G
Yes,
this
is
phil
lee
again
for
the
appellant
and
there
was
a
small
sketch
included
with
our
application.
That
shows
the
general
layout
of
the
entrance
and
exit
and
the
way
this
drive-through
has
been
designed.
G
It
will
be
fully
enclosed.
There's
there
are
not
going
to
be
any
transactions
or
any
business
taking
place
outside
of
the
building.
There
will
be
an
entrance
cars
pull
into
the
building.
G
Then
they
come
out
a
completely
separate
entrance.
Very
there
will
be
the
way
it's
arranged.
You
know.
Headlights
won't
be
pointing
up
the
road
towards
the
residential
area,
they'll
be
aiming
inside
the
building
or
directly
at
another
commercial
building
across
the
street,
so
there
will
be
virtually
no
disruption
to
the
adjoining
areas.
In
fact,
I
would
imagine
it
would
be
considerably
less
disruption
to
the
adjoining
residential
areas,
because
it's
not
automotive
repair,
as
it
has
been
in
the
past,
it'll
be
strictly
retail.
G
There
will
be
no
hazardous
substances,
dangerous
materials
such
as
used
oil
solvents.
Anything
like
that
being
used
a
very
clean
operation
and
just
to
follow
up
on
what
mr
riggs
said
about
the
eating
establishments,
how
they
were
also
subject
to
this
200-foot
restriction.
G
I
think
it
is
approximately
three
it's
either
two
or
three
buildings
to
the
west
of
the
applicant's
building
and
their
separation
from
the
back
of
their
building
to
the
r1
zone
is
72
feet
so
where
hours
will
be
actually
95,
there's
a
72,
so
I
don't
think
it's
an
unreasonable
distance
at
all.
There
will
be
no
business
conducted
in
that
area,
so
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
present
any
any
sort
of
problems
whatsoever
for
the
residential
area
and
there
is
a
six-foot
privacy
fence
back
there
as
well.
H
A
Now,
okay,
I
think
it's
coming
from
my
microphone,
but
I
got
a
couple
quick
questions.
First
of
all,
let's
go
to
the
board
members
if
they
have
any
questions.
E
I
have
a
question:
go
ahead,
john,
that's
a
the
big,
the
big
thing
on
a
lot
of
these
letters
of
complaint
or
or
skepticism
about
this
is
the
traffic
I
lived
in
that
neighborhood
and
there's
no
way
you
can
take
a
left-hand
turn
on
east
state
street
from
any
of
those
non-lighted
streets
whatsoever.
So
people
are
going
to
be
relegated
to
as
soon
as
they
pick
their
stuff
up.
They're
going
to
go
down
the
street
turn
left
or
turn
right
to
hit
another
street.
E
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
residents
are
concerned
about
that.
I
don't
know
as
board
of
zoning
appeals.
If
that
we
should
deal
with
that
or
or
or
what,
but
I
was
wondering.
Was
there
there's
a
lot
of
parking
space
between
those
that
90
some
odd
feet?
Will
you
have
parking
there.
G
Sir,
this
is
phil
lee
against
yeah.
I
don't
anticipate
much
if
any
parking,
because
it
will,
for
the
most
part,
be
a
drive-through.
G
There
won't
be
walk-up
shopping
there
and
mr
riggs
may
have
more
to
say
about
the
the
parking
issue,
but
the
only
thing
I
can
say
is
that
I
certainly
understand
you
the
frustration,
probably
that
the
neighbors
and
that
neighborhood
they
feel
about
the
traffic.
I
too
live
in
an
area
that
is
very
high
traffic
adjacent
to
a
commercial
area.
It
can
get
frustrating,
but
it
is
a
commercial
area
and
it
is
zone
commercial.
G
So,
no
matter
what
type
of
business
goes
in
there
it's
going
to
generate
traffic
and
it
is
an
approved
use.
The
200-foot
setback,
which
is
the
issue
here,
has
no
impact
whatsoever
on
the
traffic.
The
traffic
is,
is
going
to
be
what
it
is.
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
way
to
direct
traffic,
I
I
don't
know
behind
the
building
another
direction
or
what
to
alleviate
that.
That
is,
you
know
beyond
what
I
can
address
it's
just.
G
It
is
one
of
those
situations
where
that
close
to
a
major
commercial
area,
there
is
going
to
be
a
traffic
issue.
I
don't
think
this
type
of
business
is
going
to
generate
so
much
traffic
that
there's
really
going
to
be
a
noticeable
difference.
I
it's
more
of
a
convenience
type
thing,
so
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
drawing
people
in
from
a
long
distance
get
the
products
that
we
will
be
selling.
A
Speaking
of
the
products,
it
says,
food
and
drink
says
that
includes
alcohol
and
what
kind
of
a
food
we'll
be
selling
in
here?
Chips
and
dips
and.
G
That's
the
sort
of
thing
convenience,
foods
and
alcohol
is
anticipated
if
the
liquor
license
is
obtained,
of
course-
and
you
know,
subject
to
all
the
restrictions
that
go
along
with
whatever
type
of
license
is
obtained,
it
will
not
be
for
any
on-premises
consumption,
it
will
be
all
carryout,
so
that
would
not
be
an
issue.
A
G
It's
I
mean
I,
I
have
seen
many
other
drive-through
operations
and
it's
very
rare
to
get
much
of
a
line.
I
can't
imagine
such
a
thing
would
occur.
I
suppose
it's
always
possible,
but
there
is
a
significant
amount
of
space
for
for
vehicles
to
line
up
to
get
in
and
through
the
drive
through,
and
we
would
be
willing
to
discuss
that
with
zoning
to
see
if
they
had
any
other
suggestions
for
the
arrangement
of
the
entrance
and
exit
to
possibly
alleviate
that.
If
that
becomes
an
issue.
A
A
B
I
It
looks
like
a
carter
has
been
let
into
the
meeting
and
they
can
speak
in
favor
and
opposition
or
in
general
come
and
it's
your
turn
to
speak.
Please,
okay,.
J
J
J
J
G
G
Well,
I
I
can't
fix
the
address,
that's
the
post
office,
but
the
issue
is
that
it
is
the
large
don
porter
structure
on
the
corner
of
avon
and
east
state,
the
one
that
is
currently
vacant,
that
that
is
the
building.
But
we
will
look
into
correcting
that
to
make
sure
that
there
is
no
further
confusion,
because
I
noticed
the
same
thing
that
there
there
was
some
conflict
there.
J
Okay,
what
are
the
hours
of
the
this
operation
going
to
be?
Is
it
going
to
be
seven
days
a
week
24
hours
a
day?
Are
we
talking
open
until
midnight?
You
know
this?
Is
this?
Is
families
down
here?
We
don't
want
people
out
at
midnight
up
and
down
our
road
going
to
get
their
beer,
their
drinks
or
whatever.
A
Sorry
to
quickly
interrupt
you,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
scott.
If
you
could
please
bring
up
748
east
industries
on
the
google
map,
so
we
have
a
visual
to
talk
about,
go
ahead.
Yeah
you
go
ahead
and
continue
while
he's.
J
I
mean
the
little
kids
that
ride
their
bikes
up
and
down
the
road.
There's
always
been.
You
know,
businesses
there,
but
they've
been
very
quiet.
You
know
it's
a
monday
through
friday,
eight
to
four.
That's
it.
G
Okay,
sure
to
the
best
I
can
at
this
point
I
don't
know:
if
hours
have
been
fixed,
I
can
only
anticipate
or
expect
that
it
would
probably
be
seven
days
a
week
and
you're
correct.
It
would
probably
be.
G
Late
into
the
evening,
I
don't
know
the
exact
hours
now,
as
as
far
as
your
comment
regarding
lighting,
there
are
obviously
code
restrictions
on
lighting
and
over
spill
as
far
as
the
lighting
measures
would
have
to
be
taken
to
make
sure
that
the
lights
do
not
shine
directly
into
residential
properties
and
illuminate
them.
G
You
know
late
into
the
evening
that
that
is
something
that
can
be
addressed
and
taken
care
of
and
and
it
would
be,
the
okay.
I
understand-
and
I
do
understand
your
concerns
about
disruption
and.
J
Right,
I
mean
you
know
you
have
families
with
kids
that
need
to
go
to
school
and
you've
got
10
o'clock
at
night.
10
people
down
here,
they're,
going
to
honk
their
horn
they're,
getting
their
beer
they're
going
to
go
party.
That's
not
right!
I
just
don't
understand
what
you
think
is
right
about
this
whole
project.
I
J
G
Then
what
are
you
doing?
Yes
go
ahead?
Can
I
answer
your
question?
Yes,
I'd
appreciate
an
opportunity
to
respond.
I
am
representing
the
applicant
on
the
zoning
application
and
that
is
it.
I
am
not
a
business
partner.
I
am
not
involved
with
the
planning
of
the
business.
G
Therefore,
there
are
some
things
I
may
not
have
an
answer
to,
but
I
can
suggest
that
as
a
carryout,
you
are
correct.
It
is
probably
going
to
be
seven
days
a
week
late
into
the
evening,
probably
yeah.
I
think
right
now
what
has
been
looked
at
and
I
just
got
a
text
from
one
of
the
business
people
that
they're
looking
at
10
to
10
p.m
or
10
a.m,
to
10
p.m,
and
you
know
the.
F
G
J
I
was
gonna
say
I've.
I've
been
there
forever.
I
understand
that,
but
we're
talking
about
the
street
that
I
live
on
now,
I'm
not
talking
about
east
state
street,
I'm
talking
about
avon,
where
I
live,
you're
going
to
have
delivery
trucks
in
and
out
now
you
know
it's
I'm
sorry,
I'm
totally
against
this
and
I
hope
everybody
else.
That's
listening
is
too
because
you're
going
you're
coming
into
a
residential
neighborhood.
G
Well,
man
we're
not
we're
coming
into
a
commercial
neighborhood
that
is
zoned
commercial
and
the
user
requested
is
permitted.
It
has
been
commercial
since
practically
1900.
G
In
fact
the
building
itself
was
1924,
so
it
is,
it
is
100
a
commercial
neighborhood.
Now.
G
To
address
the
concerns
of
the
neighbors
and
try
to
eliminate
any
adverse
impacts
to
them,
but
the
fact
is,
it
is
a
commercial
district
and
you
know
we
we
will
do
what
we
can
to.
You
know
address
your
concerns.
J
J
A
J
It
was
pretty
calm,
people
would
drop
their
cars
off
and
usually
when
they
left,
they
turned
out
of
the
dealership
and
turned
right
onto
east
state
street.
They
did
not
come
up
avon,
they
didn't
have
a
reason
to.
A
A
So
the
picture
is
what
is
the
proposed
entrance
to
the
drive
through
or
carry
out.
J
A
Yeah,
you
can't
go
to
the
av
on
the
street
or
avon
avenue.
That's:
okay,
scott!
Okay!
Thank
you!
Ma'am!
Let's
hear
from
some
other.
If
anyone
at.
G
All
can
I
ask,
I'm
sorry,
john,
can
I
add
something
sure
yeah
I
did
hear
from
one
of
the
business
personnel
working
on
the
project
and.
G
In
response
to
ms
carter's
comments,
I'm
sorry
I
hope
I
have
the
name
correct.
We
may
be
able-
and
this
would
have
to
take
coordination
of
zoning
and
perhaps
traffic
as
well.
We
may
be
able
to
direct
exiting
traffic
to
take
the
alley
that
goes
behind
the
building
to
exit
that
direction,
because
my
clients
will
own
those
other
structures
as
well,
and
we
may
be
able
to
direct
them
that
way,
that's
an
option,
something
that
could
be
explored
again.
G
It
would
take
some
take
some
looking
into
and
some
planning
with
some
other
entities,
but
it
you
know
it's
something.
We
can
definitely
consider
and
look.
A
A
Yeah,
if
that's
the
case,
then
we
probably
have
to
meet
some
other
time
for
time.
Being,
let's
hear
from,
is
there
anyone
else
online?
Who
would
like
to
speak
in
opposition
of
this?
Otherwise
we're
going
to
read
the
movement.
J
L
Okay,
the
noise
of
delivery
talks-
trucks,
you
know,
is
too
much
for
children
in
the
neighborhood.
The
first
house
has
two
little
kids
under
five
there,
the
selling
of
alcohol
in
the
future.
We
already
have
alcohol,
seoul,
restaurant.
We
don't
need
this
exit
should
be
out.
Try
grand
park
then
cut
through
the
alley
there,
but
and
on
avon,
is
also
sales
park.
We
have
a
lot
of
traffic
going
up
to
sales
park,
which
is
great,
but
this
is
just
too
much.
This
is
a
family
neighborhood.
L
You
know
this
is
not
good
for
our
neighborhood.
Please
consider
and
vote
against
this.
I
have
talked
to
the
neighborhoods
they're.
Writing
letters.
They're
very
upset
jan
cunningham.
Well,
I
shouldn't
use
people
names,
but
they're
all
really
upset
about
this
situation.
So
please
do
not
agree
to
have
this
in
our
neighborhood.
L
This
is
a
family
neighborhood.
It's
going
to
degrade
it
property
value
is
going
to
go
down
and
who
wants
this
through
our
you
know
it's
terrible:
they
can
buy
their
alcohol
at
krogers.
There's
enough
convenience
stores.
We
don't
need
this.
The
car
lot
was
great.
We
had
no
problems,
we've
lived
there
47
years,
and
this
is
nothing
but
a
nightmare.
A
Ma'am,
would
you
please
you
may
have
done
this
before,
but
I
didn't
hear
it
state
your
name
and
your
address
for
the
records.
M
A
Tested
your
address
for
us.
M
I'm
concerned
that
the
first
time
some
nice
chain
restaurant
wants
to
come
in
and
take
one
of
these
business
properties
on
estate
street
and
the
code
being
you
know
somewhere
in
the
process.
That's
they're
just
going
to
get
it
because
it's
just
you
know
if
you're
going
to
do
this
here
and
keep
this
business
from
using
the
property
in
its
present
footprint,
then
I
don't
know
how
you're
going
to
not
let
other
businesses
with
far
less
setbacks
than
this
go
forward.
M
I'm
thinking
about
this
is
many
years
ago
how
that
super
america
station
or
whatever
it's
called
speedway
station,
was
put
in
there
right
in
the
neighborhood,
and
I
stood
to
object
to
that.
But
but
this
is
way
back
from
there
and
considering
all
of
the
compressors
and
all
of
the
toxics
that
were
there
in
that
paint,
room
and
all
of
the
hammering
and
the
noise
and
the
frames
being
bent
and
the
trucks
coming
in
all
hours
of
the
night
with
the
wrecks
to
drop
off.
M
A
Thank
you.
Do
we
have.
I
Please
walker,
please
unmute
yourself!
Thank
you.
N
Okay,
I
it
just
appeared
on
my
screen
yeah.
My
name
is
nancy
walker
and
I
live
at
13
avon
place
and
I
agree
with
carolyn
riley
and
ms
carter.
N
The
traffic
is
a
problem
in
the
area
we
have
sales
park,
which
is
a
a
big
attraction,
and
this
will
add
to
that
that
we've
all
lived
with
the
with
the
work
that
was
being
done
at
mark
porter's
and
before
that
the
chevrolet
place,
so
that
it
was
not
something
that
had
any
effect
on
us
in
any
big
way,
because
people
came
in
and
and
left
mostly
on
state
street,
and
there
were
very
few
people.
It
wasn't
like
a
large
number
of
people
coming
through.
N
So
this
is
not
the
same.
I
think
the
man
who
spoke
previously
probably
doesn't
live
here,
so
he
doesn't
know
what
the
experience
has
been
like.
We
haven't
had
a
problem
before
we're
facing
it
now
so
we'd
like
you
to
consider
the
fact
that
you're
asking
for
a
variance
that
should,
according
to
what
I
understood
of
the
rules,
you
gave
before
benefit
the
people
or
be
be
of
benefit
to
the
community,
and
and
so,
if
you're
going
to
grant
the
variance,
it
should
be
only
because
it
benefits
the
community
and
it
doesn't.
O
O
I
just
want
to
say
you
know
I
I
love
the
community
here
for
the
local
business
and
culture.
We
have
100
support
local
business
and
expansion
and
new
jobs
and
all
that
good
stuff.
But
in
listening
to
some
of
the
comments
from
the
attorney,
you
know
one
thing
they
were
talking
about
was
there
there
wouldn't
be
any
headlights
issues
into
the
homes
coming
out
of
that
place.
O
I
don't
know
if
they're
planning
on
rebuilding
it,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
that
that's
my
office
window
looking
at
the
the
door,
those
headlights
that
come
out
of
there,
those
guys
at
mark
porters,
are
working
after
doc,
come
right
into
my
upstairs
bedroom
windows
and
to
my
office
and
living
room.
So
they
haven't
researched
that
they're
just
saying
what
it
takes
to
get
the
variance.
O
Regarding
seoul,
restaurant
being
only
70
feet
or
whatever
that
may
be
true,
but
they're
also
not
gonna
bring
in
100
cars
down
my
street
every
day,
either.
O
I'm
reading
I'll
take
some
notes.
You're
bear
with
me
for
a
second
anyway
yeah,
as
far
as
like
you
asked
if
they
could
potentially
create
a
line
or
a
backup
out
the
state
street
that
already
happens
with
the
vape
shop.
I
almost
get
hit
every
time
I
try
to
go
out
state
street.
I
don't
even
want
to
exit
state
street,
let
alone
the
people
coming
out
of
a
drive
through
and
look
at
larry's
doghouse.
O
And
basically,
in
conclusion,
you
know:
there's
a
reason
you
guys
know
these
zoning
laws
are
are
here
and
the
rules
and
there's
a
lot
of
precedence
behind
the
specifics
of
the
rules,
and
I
think
it
was
was
it
nancy?
Whoever
said
you
know,
this
should
variance
could
be
applied
or
granted
if
it
would
benefit
the
community
yeah.
Certainly
this
is
not.
This
is
going
to
be
a
huge
detriment
to
our
neighborhood
in
the
community.
O
O
The
people
next
to
me
have
grandkids
that
are
there
all
the
time
running
around
the
house?
Two
down
from
them
has
three
kids
across
the
street
there's
another
kid
I
mean
just
on
the
first
block
of
avon,
there's,
probably
20
kids
under
10
years
old,
and
that's
just
one
block.
So
I
support
the
guy
I'll,
be
an
entrepreneur
and
whatnot,
but
this
neighborhood
is
not
the
place
for
liquor
drive
through
all
hours
of
the
night.
D
May
I
ask
mike
a
question:
go
ahead
mike
so
does
avon
place
have
sidewalks.
O
A
Okay,
thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you,
miss
yake
and
joe
cross.
If
you
would
like
to
maybe
alternate
reading
those
emails,
maybe
make
it
a
good
summary,
not
not
a
brief
summary,
but
maybe
a
good
summary
of
the
and
also
mention
their
names.
A
Yes
carrie.
You
can
go
first.
Q
Q
You
said
this
is
an
unsafe
location
for
additional
and
erratic
car
traffic,
and
he
also
said
there's
no
need
for
a
drive-through
or
carryout
in
this
area.
It's
unnecessary
because
of
the
abundance
of
grocery
stores,
convenience
stores
along
east
state
street
that
already
sell
beer
wine,
liquor,
food
and
related
products.
H
The
next
letter
is
from
linda
and
gregory
lavelle
at
16
avon
place.
It
is
our
understanding
that
that
the
board
will
hear
a
case
tonight
regarding
an
appeal
for
a
variance
to
allow
a
drive-through
to
operate
within
70
feet
of
a
residential
neighborhood.
When
the
minimum
distance
allowed
is
200
feet,
our
family
owns
a
home
on
avon
place.
We
wish
to
register
our
opposition
to
the
granting
of
this
variance.
H
Approval
of
this
variance
would
result
in
a
detriment
to
the
adjacent
residential
neighborhood,
not
only
on
avon
place,
but
on
other
residential
streets
in
the
neighborhood
as
well.
Increased
traffic
would
pose
a
threat
for
the
many
children
and
seniors
in
the
neighborhood,
and
the
increased
noise
would
have
a
negative
impact
on
the
many
citizens
in
the
immediate
area.
The
zoning
laws
are
in
place
to
protect
the
residential
neighborhoods
from
this
type
of
intrusion
and
should
be
upheld
in
this
case.
Q
Concerns
have
one
from
rachel
myers.
She
lives
at
61,
avon
place
and
she's
writing
to
object
to
the
proposed
drive
through
also
in
her
neighborhood,
the
far
east
side.
She
is,
they
live
in
a
quiet,
family
neighborhood
and
they
do
not
want
such
an
established
already
undesirable,
vape
knot
top
at
the
end
of
the
street.
Q
Q
Meanwhile,
tarnishing
the
image
of
our
family
neighborhood,
just
giving
people
directions
to
my
house
has
become
an
embarrassment
hearing
where
the
giant
vapor
sign
is
she
asked
that
we
you
do
not
grant
the
variance-
and
please
maintain
some
sense
of
family
atmosphere
around
here
and
do
not
add
more
undesirable
traffic
at
the
very
end
of
avon
and
east
state
street.
H
Next
is
carla
young
64
avon
place
to
the
members
of
the
athens
city
zoning
board?
I
am
writing
to
express
my
concern
about
the
possible
variants
for
mr
scott's
proposed
drive-through
on
estate
as
a
homeowner
on
avon,
I'm
concerned
that
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
plan
to
get
shoppers
back
onto
east
state
street
avon
does
not
have
a
traffic
light.
There
are
existing
problems
with
traffic
directed
through
our
neighborhood
from
east
state
street
car
dealerships.
H
Q
I
have
an
email
from
jan
hodson
at
45,
graham
drive,
and
she
said
I
write
with
concern
about
the
possible
granting
of
this
variance.
I
ask
that
the
zoning
board
please
think
about
why
the
current
law
requires
there
be
200
feet
from
an
r1
neighborhood
for
a
business.
The
city
planner
has
assured
us,
verbally
and
through
his
draft
comprehensive
plan
that
there
is
a
sincere
desire
to
protect
neighborhood
life
in
the
city
of
athens,
allowing
this
variance
would
certainly
fly
in
the
face
of
that
avon
places.
Q
A
narrow
street
that
has
experienced
an
increase
in
number
of
cars,
speeding
up
and
down
from
sales
park
and
running,
stop
signs
as
they
do
so
avon
place
is
a
street
that
sees
many
pedestrians
and
children
playing
the
business
plans
to
put
its
entrance
and
exit
onto
avon
place.
There
is
no
stop
light
at
the
corner
of
east
state
and
avon
place,
see
if
drivers
exit
the
planned
business
onto
avon
and
want
to
go
east
on
east
state
street,
they
will
never
be
able
to
safely
make
a
left
turn.
Q
The
board
of
the
far
east
neighborhood
association
has
not
taken
an
official
stance
on
this
variance
because
we
only
learned
about
it.
Yesterday,
however,
we
have
spent
several
years
observing
the
traffic
patterns
in
our
neighborhood,
and
we
have
been
concerned.
We've
expressed
our
concerns
to
the
city
council,
the
mayor,
the
city
planner
and
the
chief
of
police.
If
you
grant
this
variance,
we
believe
it
will
only
worsen
the
present
problem.
H
Okay,
did
you
did
you
read
anna
longo
carrier?
No,
I
did
not.
Okay,
anna
longo
from
22
eden
place
wrote.
I
oppose
the
requested
variant
for
the
old
mark
porter
building
at
avon
in
e
state.
It
will
increase
the
traffic
on
jacobs
and
either
eden
or
charles,
because
customers
will
not
be
able
to
easily
make
a
left
turn
on
east
state.
H
This
is
a
residential
neighborhood
with
small
children
and
older
residents
who
like
to
walk,
and
there
aren't
any
sidewalks
which
will
make
it
very
dangerous
for
the
walkers
or
at
least
two-thirds
food,
snack
and
beverage
options.
I'm
sorry
there
are
at
least
two
or
three
food,
snack
and
beverage
options
within
a
quarter
mile.
All
of
these
options
have
easy
in
or
out
entrances
with,
traffic
lights.
Q
Q
There
is
a
reason
for
this
law
to
keep
commercial
traffic
to
a
minimum
in
an
r1
neighborhood.
Since
the
plans
for
the
store
show
the
drive
through
entrance
and
exit
to
be
located
on
avon
place,
there
is
no
doubt
there
will
be
significantly
more
traffic
through
avon
and
jacobs,
where
there
is
already
serious
speeding
problems
to
get
to
a
light
to
allow
cars
to
make
a
left
turn
onto
state
street.
This
is
a
neighborhood
filled
with
children
and
pedestrians.
Q
H
Very
much
oh
yeah,
I
think
we
had
emily
bentley
did
we
read
emily
bentley?
I
did
not.
I
got
one
more
john,
because
there
was
that
there
was
that
eighth
one
we
received
okay
from
emily
bentley.
I
wanted
to
voice
my
concern
as
a
far
east
side
resident
owner
of
27,
pleasantview,
drive
and
parent
about
the
plans
of
the
drive-through
variants
on
avon
as
an
avid
daily
walker
in
the
far
east
side,
with
my
family,
we
already
experienced
traffic
on
jacobs
that
disregards
the
speed
limit
and
often
disregard
stop
signs.
A
Okay,
mr
phil
lee,
what
we
have
to
be
looking
in
here
is
hardship.
What
is
the
is?
The
current
structure
can
be
used,
I'm
sure
for
many
similar,
you
know
users
as
before.
So
what
is
the
hardship
that,
in
here,
that
you
can
argue.
G
Basically,
that
the
size
of
the
building
limits
its
use,
practical
use
anyway,
the
size
and
actually
where
it
is
on
a
corner.
Obviously,
a
auto
dealership
with
automotive
repair
worked
well
there.
There
aren't
a
lot
of
other
businesses.
G
That
could
use
that
amount
of
square
footage
that
type
of
building
in
that
location,
so
it
kind
of
limits
the
use
for
that
area.
You
know
it
is
a
b3
zone,
however,
to
try
to
use
the
existing
structure
and
existing
buildings
to
make
it
economical
to
put
a
new
business
in
there
and
create
some
jobs.
G
You
know
we
would
have
to
have
some
concessions
and
by
concessions
I
mean
a
variance
and
it
again
not
an
unusual
variance,
one
that
has
historically
been
granted
to
many
other
businesses
up
and
down
east
state
street.
G
Just
a
couple
of
things,
and
first
of
all,
I
don't
want
any
of
the
residents
to
misinterpret
my
comments
to
sound
like
I
don't
understand
their
plight
and
you
know
and
that
you
know
the
business
owners
don't
care
about
their
situation.
G
You
know
we
perfectly
understand
the
traffic
is
a
problem.
The
speed
of
the
cars
is
a
problem.
Safety
of
the
children
is
paramount.
G
There
are
current
plans,
call
for
actually
two
lanes
of
traffic
inside
the
building,
and
the
reasoning
is
that
would
help
to
eliminate
the
potential
for
backed
up
traffic
outside
the
building,
not
to
say
that
on
occasion
there
aren't
going
to
be
lines.
It's
probably
going
to
happen
occasionally,
but
the
two
lanes
of
traffic
inside
the
building
would
certainly
help
to
minimize
that
and
one
other
comment
regarding
the
headlight
and
the
lights.
G
G
We
would
definitely
look
at
the
light,
pollution
and
minimize
any
impact
we
can
to
the
adjoining
properties,
the
auto
headlights
and-
and
I
know
I
think
it
was
mike-
commented
about
the
lights
shining
into
his
office
and
in
his
house-
and
I
think
I
spoke
to
mike
today
out
there,
but.
G
I
mean
definitely
that's
something
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at,
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
a
practical
way
to
deal
with
with
the
momentary,
you
know,
headlights
shining
into
his
house
from
that
location.
There
may
be
a
way,
I'm
not
sure
we
would
just
certainly
look
at
it
and
take
it
into
consideration.
G
G
G
G
The
drive-through
is
a
permitted
use.
The
use
of
the
property
is
not
what
is
at
issue
here
and
it's
not
what's
before
the
board.
It's
it's
not
even
a
question.
G
The
fact
is
whether
it's
95
feet
or
200
feet
will
have
no
impact
whatsoever
on
the
traffic
it
won't
matter,
but
what
it
does
permit-
and
I've
talked
this
over
a
little
bit
with
the
owners
by
text.
While
this
meeting
is
going
on
is
they
have
purchased
the
additional
don
porter
buildings?
All
the
buildings
there
on
that
block?
Basically,
because
that
whole
business
is
going
to
be
gone,
so
you're
going
to
have
a
bunch
of
empty
buildings
sitting
there
falling
apart
if
businesses
are
not
allowed
to
move
in
there.
G
G
The
owners
have
indicated
to
me
that
they
are
willing
to
explore
redesigning
the
layout
of
the
carryout
so
that
the
exit
goes
into
the
alley
and
you
know
to
talk
to
traffic
and
also
zoning
about
ways
to
force
or
direct
traffic
down
the
alley
to
the
other
street.
I
right
off
the
top.
My
head,
I
don't
know
the
name
of
the
other
street,
but
where
there
is
a
traffic
flight
for
them
to
exit,
I
mean
that
is,
is
not
a
problem.
G
I
have
no
objection
to
doing
that
and
apparently
it
is
a
private
alley,
not
a
public
alley,
and
we
would
own
that
alley.
So
we
should
be
able
to
do
that
and
have
no
objections
to
doing
that.
If
the
bza
wants
to
make
that
a
condition
to
approval.
A
A
B
A
N
The
main
compromise
was
to
use
the
the
the
alley
and
that
won't
work
a
street
that
doesn't
have
a
light.
N
So
I
think
the
same
problem
would
happen
to
them
when
they
have
more
traffic
at
their
on
their
street
and
and
in.
In
fact,
most
of
the
most
of
the
proposals,
or
most
of
the
objections
that
that
the
attorney
raised
were
not
relevant
because
he's
forgetting
that
we
live
here,
and
we
know
that
the
the
noise
and
the
or
the
lights
and
the
and
the
traffic
from
that
drive
through
is
going
to
be
a
problem.
That
corner
is
difficult.
N
We
have
not
only
children,
we
have
pets
and
we
have
all
of
us
walking
the
streets
because
we
have
no
sidewalks.
It's
just
a
difficult
thing
and
I
think
he
needs
to
to.
A
Your
muted,
what
am
I
doing
this?
Okay,
I
guess
we're
going
to
close
the
discussions
from
the
floor
because.
G
Exactly
that
was
it
really?
I
just
want
to
know
if
anyone
can
confirm
for
sure
whether
or
not
grand
park
avenue
has
a
traffic
light
at
east
state.
I
believe
it
does,
and
what
we
were
saying
is
that
we
could
divert
the
exit
to
the
alley
behind
our
building
and
direct
that
traffic
down
the
alley
to
grand
park
and
as
far
as
I
know,
or
I
thought
it
had
a
traffic
light,
maybe
it
does
not.
I
do
not
know
that
for
sure,
but
we
thought
it
did.
A
Okay,
I
guess
at
this
point
what
we're
going
to
do
we're
going
to
close
the
discussions
from
the
floor.
The
couple
of
choices
is
that
I
guess
my
preference
and
we'll
just
I
will
consult
with
the
board
members
to
go
ahead
and
take
care
of
this
variance
and
if
there
is
any
changes
that
you
want
to
bring,
that
would
be
another
case
that
you
can
discuss
with
the
code
office
board
members.
What
do
you
think?
A
C
I
I
could
respond
to
that
john.
If
that's
okay,
sure
yeah,
this
property
is
actually
located
on
four
parcels.
One
is
the
the
7
48
one
is
750,
and
then
there
are
two
parcels
that
are
located
on
eaton
place,
so
748
and
750
would
actually
both
be
the
correct
address
for
this
okay.
F
F
A
Any
others
diagram
a
practical
difficulty
in
undue
hardship
because
of
exceptional
or
extraordinary
circumstances
or
conditions
pertaining
to
a
specific
piece
of
property.
The
literal
enforcement
of
these
regulations
will
result
in
practical
difficulty
or
undue
hardship
that
is
unnecessary
to
the
achievement
of
the
public
purposes.
A
F
A
Okay,
preservation
of
equal
property
rights,
literal
interpretation
of
these
regulations
would
deprive
the
appellant
of
rights
commonly
enjoyed
by
others
in
the
same
zone
and
the
same
vicinity,
while
the
granting
of
their
requested
variants
will
not
confer
on
the
applicant
any
special
privilege
that
is
denied
to
other
properties
in
the
same
zone
and
the
same
vicinity.
E
A
Yeah,
I
fully
agree
with
that
and
again
there
are
not
that
many.
Those
are
meant.
A
A
The
authorizing
of
such
variance
will
not
be
of
substantial
detriment
to
adjacent
property
and
will
not
materially
impair
the
purpose
of
the
zoning
code
or
the
public
interest.
I
think
we
had
a
total
of
maybe
at
least
10
people
who
my
email
or
in
person
they
express
their
opinion
and
the
possible
detriment
to
the
neighborhood.
So
we
just
leave
it
at
that
unless
you
have
additional
anything
that
you
want
to
add
to
it,.
A
Not
of
the
general
nature,
the
condition
or
situation
of
the
specific
piece
of
property
or
the
intended
use
of
the
set
property
for
which
variance
is
sought
one
or
the
other
or
in
combination,
is
not
of
so
general
or
recurrent
in
nature
as
to
make
reasonably
practical.
The
formulation
of
the
general
regulation
for
such
condition
or
situation.
A
So
it's
not
the
general
nature.
Okay,
are
we
ready
to
vote?
I'm
gonna
start
with
lisa,
since
you
are
on
already.
A
Okay,
lisa,
no
john
good
against.
A
Okay,
okay,
no,
can
you
hear
me,
I
heard
no
so,
okay
and
john
good
against
are
you.
We
need
to
get
an
official
vote
from
him.
I
will
vote
no
as
well.
So
at
this
moment
we
have
four
no's
and
one
to.
H
John
should
rob
vote
then.
If
john
john
dropped
off.
A
Well,
john,
I
don't
know
whether
dropped
off
permanently
or
it's
just
a
just
right.
Now
he's
back
he's
back.
Okay,.
E
A
Okay,
we
are
voting,
we
have
four
no's
and
we
are
waiting
for
yours.
No
okay,
it's
a
lee!
I'm
sorry!
If
you
don't
have
the
variance
and
again
you're,
welcome
to
make
a
different
proposal
and
see
the
code
office
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
A
These
are
two
different
addresses,
two
different
structures,
but
they
are
joining
each
other
and
whatever
is
going
on
with
this
property
is
going
to
affect
both
of
them.
So
we
can't
have
one
getting
the
value,
the
one
being
denied,
so
we're
going
to
read
them
together
and
vote
together
for
both
of
them
case
number
2011
v
is
14
and
14
and
a
half
morris
avenue
zone
is
r3
and
mr
trent,
the
bruin
is
the
appellant.
A
The
poland
is
requesting
a
variance
from
acc
2303
11
a1
to
allow
a
zero
left
setback
where
five
feet
is
required
and
acc
23101
table
a
to
allow
44
percent
structure
lot
coverage
where
30
is
required
and
62
total
lot
coverage
where
60
is
the
maximum
seeking
variance
to
remove
existing
garage
connector
and,
in
addition
to
the
rear
of
the
main
house,
which
is
a
non-conforming
grandfathered
rental
unit
until
or
yeah
unit
will
be
eliminated,
so
those
items
will
be
eliminated.
A
In
addition,
as
well
as
replacing
existing
front
porch
with
a
smaller
porch,
both
structure
lot
coverage
as
well
as
the
total
lot
coverage
will
be
decreased
and
the
next
case,
which
is
case
2012
v,
address
145
east
estate
street
a
zona
r3
again,
mr
trent,
the
bruin
is
the
propellant
appellant
is
requesting
a
variance
from
acc
2303
11
a1
to
allow
zero
rear
setback
where
five
feet
is
required,
seeking
variance
to
replace
existing
garage
with
a
new
proposed
shared
unattached
two
car
garage
in
adjoining
driveways
with
14
morris
avenue
to
replace
two
independent
garages.
A
Mr
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
code
office
david.
It
says
on
the
second
one,
the
rear
setback
of
zero,
where
five
feet
is
required.
I
always
thought
that
the
rear
straight
back
was
like
around
40
feet.
C
Let
me
check
that
in
this
case,
I
think
it's
a
five
foot
setback
or
for
the
zone
that
they're
in
hang
on
just
a
second.
Let
me
check
that.
Okay,
unless.
C
What
we've
got
really
is
two
addresses
14
morris
and
145
east
state
street
and
what
they
are
really
to
boil
it
down.
What
they're
really
trying
to
do
is
put
two
garages
together,
so
they'll
share
a
wall
along
the
property
line,
and
then
they
will
also
share
a
driveway
you.
We
just
can't
do
that
because
the
way
the
code's
set
up,
but
it
actually
makes
a
lot
of
sense
for
this
particular
structure.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Meanwhile,
scott.
I
don't
want
to
risk
losing
the
the
my
own
connection,
so
if
you
could
bring
those
three
maps
that
we
discussed
before
the
meeting
you
know
when,
when
we
get
there,
if
you
could
bring
it
up,
I'm
afraid
that
I
lose
my
screen.
Then
any
questions
for
the
code
office
from
their
board
members.
D
No,
this
is
rob
question
if
these
are
separate
properties
but
same
owner
if
they
were
to
sell
one
of
the
properties.
Would
this
impede
that
so
the
garage
is
one
structure?
Could
it
be,
could
one
property
be
sold
off
effectively
and
not
cause
a
problem
with
this
garage?
The
way
it
would
be
rebuilt,
sir.
C
A
Well,
mr
d,
bruin,
I'm
sorry
if
I
mispronouncing
your
name.
I
don't
remember
exactly
how
you
look
like,
but
I
know
your
signature
is
very,
very
good.
R
Excuse
me:
actually,
this
is
kurt
montal,
the
property
owner
of
both
properties.
There,
it's
okay,
I'd
like
to
speak
on
our
behalf.
R
Yes,
sir
74
on
one
place.
R
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
to
hear
this
case.
It
is
a
bit
unusual,
but
not
so
strange
for
the
east
side,
14
morris
avenue
and
14
and
a
half
morris
avenue
are
currently
non-conforming
for
14
morris
avenue,
we're
proposing
a
single
family
rental
unit.
R
The
intent
for
both
of
these
properties
is
to
add
value
to
the
property
itself
and
subsequently,
if
you
can
reference
the
site
plans
and
the
demolition
plans
for
14
morris
avenue,
we
propose
to
remove
the
non-conforming
rental
unit
known
as
14
and
a
half
floors.
R
R
R
Currently,
if
you've
reviewed
the
site,
we
have
very
two
very
small
order,
garage,
looking
structures
that
have
been
converted
to
what
I
would
call
storage
buildings
and
also
on
14
and
a
half.
It
was
actually
a
part
of
the
living
restriction.
H
Mr
model,
this
this
14
and
a
half
morris,
you
said
it's
partly
use
part
of
it
is
used
as
the
rental.
Is
that
what
I
understood,
because
your
microphone
wasn't
so
good?
I
didn't
fully
understand
you,
sir
yeah.
R
I
apologize
the
previous
property
owner
had
a
rental
permit
for
14
and
a
half
when
we
purchased
the
property.
We
fully
understood
and
intend
to
remove
that
14
and
a
half
apartment
to
where
this
will
be
a
single
family
property.
H
H
A
R
A
Scott,
if
you
could
bring
the
one
the
proposed
map,
please
is
the
third
one.
Is
the
next
one
yeah
right
there
yeah
right
there
that
I
I
just
was
wondering
where
that
zero
setback
was
in
here
is
the
garage,
because
it's
between
the
two
properties.
A
Nope:
okay,
no
questions
is
there
anyone?
I
don't
think
we
received
any
email
or
letters
for
this.
Is
there
anyone
online,
who
would
who
wishes
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
request
will
be
heard
now.
A
Ryan,
do
you
see
anyone
in
there
that
and
the
list
of
the
participants
that
might
I
don't
see
anybody
raising
their
hand
their
hands?
Okay,
great?
Okay?
Mr
sir,
do
you
have
any
last
word
that
you
want
to
mention
before
we
close
the
discussions
from
the
floor.
R
H
Oh
john,
okay,
so
for
145
east
state
street
case
number
20-12v.
A
H
Oh
okay
and
for
14
morris
avenue
case
number
20-11v.
H
The
opponent
is
requesting
a
variance
from
acc
2303
11
a1
to
allow
a
zero
left
setback
where
five
feet
is
required
and
acc
23101
table
a
to
allow
44
structure
lot.
Coverage
for
30
is
required
and
62
total
lot
coverage
where
60
is
the
maximum
seeking
the
variance
to
remove
the
existing
garage
connector
and,
in
addition
to
the
rear
of
the
main
house,
a
non-conforming
grandfathered
rental
until
will
be
eliminated
unit
will
be
eliminated.
A
I
think
there
is
a
special
circumstances
for
these
two
properties,
because
they
are
owned
by
the
same
person
and
they
are
joining
and
then
they
want
to
share
their
the
garage
and
also
they
are
removing
a
number
of
structures
in
there.
So
and
that
was
attractive
to
me.
A
Minimum
variance
is
it
minimum
variance.
I
think
the
overall
structure
is
under
the
structure
is
actually
reducing
just
decreasing.
So
in
a
way,
that's
good
absence
of
detriment.
I
don't
see
any
none
of
the
general
nature.
E
A
Okay,
okay,.
F
A
A
A
Can
you
guys
still
hear
me
everything
is
quiet
out
there
I
can.
I
can
hear
you
john
okay.
Thank
you
case
number
20-13
c,
and
these
are
the
properties
at
one
and
five
north
congress
street
zone
is
r3.
A
A
C
A
C
Yeah,
that's
correct
we're
only
looking
at
I
I'm
actually
considering
this
a
like
a
pilot
project
or
a
test
project,
so
we
really
want
to
do
a
temporary
permit
here.
C
Thanks,
mr
chair
yeah,
we
really
what
we're
talking
about
is
a
temporary
dwelling
structure.
We
don't
have
the
ability
to
do
that
in
our
existing
code.
So
what
we'd
look
at
to
look
to
you
is
to
decide
if
we
should
be
able
to
do
that.
A
Actually,
the
code
says
that
you
can
do
it
for
60
days,
but
anything
more
than
that
we
can
do
that's
correct,
yes,
okay,
do
we
have
an
appellant
and
if
so,
please
state
your
name
and
your
address
and
your
case.
A
S
I'm
ginger
schmalenberg,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
athens,
mental
health
known
as
the
gathering
place,
and
we
also
own
we're
at
seven
north
congress
street,
but
we
also
own
the
parking
lot
at
one
in
five
north
congress
and
we
also
own
34
west
washington,
which
is
our
recovery
house
for
men.
S
So
basically
I
guess
you
probably
all
read
my
my
case.
My
appeal.
What
we're
really
looking
to
do
is
homelessness
is
such
an
issue
in
our
community.
I
know
we
all
know
that,
and
so
I've
been
talking
with
a
lot
of
different
individuals
about
this.
For
some
time
my
board,
my
house
board
members,
my
community
board
members-
we've
actually
been
looking
at
this
project
for
about
two
years
and
I
have
been
working
with
the
folks
in
eugene,
oregon
community
shelters
who
actually
started
this
project
and
it's
very
successful
in
their
community.
S
S
Our
community
on
board
with
these
micro
shelters
because
we
do
serve
a
large
homeless
population
and
it
just
came
to
our
attention
that
every
october
we're
handing
out
tents,
we're
handing
out
sleeping
bags
and
we're
basically
telling
people
where
to
hide.
You
know,
and
we
really
believe
that
the
homeless
shouldn't
be
hidden
anymore
and
that
instead
we
should
be
focusing
on.
You
know
our
organization.
We
should
be
following
our
mission
and
we
should
actually
be
focusing
on.
S
How
do
we
uplift
people-
and
I
have
discussed
this
with
the
mayor-
different
city
council
members,
the
athens
homeless
coalition?
I
have
support
from
them.
I
have
a
letter
from
my
sister's
place,
kelly
cook,
who
is
the
president
of
the
athens
coalition?
A
lot
of
other
agencies,
317
board
everyone's
very
interested.
In
seeing
this
move
forward,
I've
talked
to
our
neighbors
that
we're
surrounded
by
guy
phillips
owns
a
property.
That's
actually
just
a
prop
from
our
parking
lot
and
he's
like.
How
can
I
support
this?
So
what
we
just
want
to
do.
S
We
just
want
to
build
one,
because
we
want
to
bring
attention
to
this
in
our
community
and-
and
they
literally
take
three
days
to
build
about
two
people
and
then
they're
built
in
different
pieces
parts
and
then
they're
put
together
on
site.
So
they're
not
meant
to
be
permanent
structures
at
all,
and
they
actually
are
very
neat
and
tidy
looking.
We
just
want
to
show
people
like
what
this
could
be.
S
The
mayor's
actually
suggested
some
other
sites
in
athens
city
that
are
underutilized
in
the
city
that
we
could
actually
probably
put
them
on.
But
what
we're
trying
to
do,
since
we
are
in
the
heart
of
athens,
we
want
to
get
some
publicity
on
it.
S
We
want
to
be
able
to
invite
other
community
members
in
to
view
these
and
see
what
a
really
great
thing
this
could
be
for
individuals,
because
we
only
have
one
homeless,
shelter
and
it
literally
can
only
hold
about
12
people
and
some
of
those
are
like
families,
and
so
people
will
be
on
a
waiting
list
for
getting
into
timothy
house
in
the
wintertime
for
a
very
long
time
and
they're
sleeping
outside
or
they're
breaking
into
sheds
at
lowe's
and
hiding
in
though
you
know
I
mean,
and
so
and
it's
just
these
individuals
are
having
to
use
the
restroom
outside
they're
littering
outside.
S
Why
not
make
it
in
like
we're
just
trying
to
be
a
lead
on
a
project
to
show
our
community?
This
is
what
we
all
we
all.
These
are
community
members
that
we're
talking
about.
The
pandemic
has
really
started
to
cause
even
more
hardships
for
individuals.
S
If
individuals
that
are
homeless
do
become
ill,
they
really
cannot
quarantine
any
place,
and,
what's
so
great
about
these
structures,
is
that
they're
warm?
You
know
it
doesn't
really
take
much
to
heat
them.
They
can
be
insulated.
They
have
bed
platforms.
People
can
actually
stay
warm
and
dry,
they
can
lock
it
while
they're,
maybe
looking
for
work
or
maybe
they're
getting
into
services
with
hopewell
and
integrated
services.
S
Many
individuals
that
are
homeless
in
our
community.
They
sometimes
don't
get
into
services.
Because
it's
a
lot
of
work
to
just
try
to
maintain
yourselves
keeping
yourself
warm
and
dry,
they
don't
have,
they
don't
go
to
appointments,
but
if
you
have
a
place
that
they
can
keep
their
stuff
they're
afraid
of
losing
their
stuff
or
someone
stealing
it.
So
that's
pretty
much
my
appeal.
I
think
it
would
be
a
really
great
thing
to
build
it
on
our
parking
lot.
S
We
are
going
to
be
putting
a
fence
on
one
side
which
should
just
actually
protect
our
renters
that
we
rent
to
we
actually
rent
to
like
9-1-1,
we
rent
to
donkey
other
community
members
and
then
half
the
parking
lot
is
ours,
so
we'd
be
putting
this
conestoga
hut
on
that
parking
lot.
So
do
you
have
any
questions?
Do
you
guys
want
to
see
pictures?
Did
you
look
at
the
pictures
or.
N
H
S
So
you
can
tell
that
they
have
like
you,
can
build
these
platforms
and
so
they're
gonna
can
actually
get
a
bed
and
there
are
special
beds.
They're
like
beds,
that
kind
of
a
person
might
use
at
camp
they're,
waterproof,
they're
bug
proof.
Individuals
can
actually
have
a
window.
There's
storage
underneath
the
bed,
they
could
even
have
a
chair.
They
could
have
like
a
little
like
a
small
little
like
cubby
space,
where
they
could
actually
store
some
clothes
or
have
a
clock.
Radio
things
like
that.
So
that's
excuse
me.
F
S
Well,
not
for
a
second
sorry
that
you
have
to
see
my
messy
desktop.
H
B
S
Okay,
so
sorry
about
that
so
yeah.
So
there's
the
bed
there's
like
a
nightstand
there's
a
window
and
that's
really
nice
to
have
actually
to
have
light
and
then
doors
that
lock
and
there's
even
like
a
little
porch,
that's
covered,
and
so
it's
taking
off
the
the
conestoga
wagons
like
when
the
pioneers
had
conestoga
wagons,
so
that's
kind
of
where
the
terminology
is
coming
in,
but
they
have
found.
S
There's
like
been
some
really
great,
evidence-based
research
on
conestoga
hut
villages,
because
actually
a
lot
of
churches
and
communities
get
on
board
to
sponsor
2-4
in
their
parking
lots.
Businesses
even
and
people
put
in
port-a-john's.
You
know-
and
some
of
them
are
fenced
in
because
you
really
actually
want
to
protect
people
who
are
homeless.
S
Living
in
something
like
this,
but
you
saw
the
outsides
of
them
as
well.
Well,
let
me
just
look
at
one
more,
so
you
can
kind
of
see
what
a
community
looks
like
okay,
so
let
me
see
I
can
open
this
one
up,
it's
kind
of
small:
can
you
see
that
yeah.
S
A
Well
well,
my
question
is
that
you
only
put
one
person
per
unit
right,
yes
and
then
you're
going
to
put
one
unit
on
the
parking
lot
right.
All
you
want.
S
Because
there's
a
lot
of
different
business
owners
and
construction
companies
that
would
like
to
build
them
for
the
homeless,
so
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
background
getting
buy-in
to
this
for
a
while
with
agencies,
and
so
we're
just
now
approaching
like
hey,
because
that's
the
mayor
suggested
that
we
build
one
to
have
it
at
stand
down
this
year
at
the
fairgrounds.
S
But
unfortunately
that
really
didn't
happen
like
normal
and
so
gosh,
let's
build
one
here
and
then
we
can
actually
let
other
agencies
come
and
look
at
them
other
stakeholders
in
our
community.
So
no
so
it's
not!
But
you
know
it's
not
always.
S
S
In
programming
you
know
and
they're
you
know,
like
sober
sober
living.
S
S
Shower
and
laundry
room
we're
open
68
hours
a
week
when
we're
not
in
the
pandemic.
We
actually
have
a
peer
recovery
supporter
that
lives
on
site
at
mike's,
bridge
house,
and
we
are
camera.
We
are
wired
all
around
our
houses,
so
there's
cameras
everywhere.
The
police
actually
come
to
us
when
certain
things
happen.
They
want
to
look
at.
S
Going
on,
but
we
could
probably
if
we
stopped
renting
a
rocket
law
and
just
use
it
for
a
conestoga
hut
gosh
we
could
easily
get
about.
I
think
that
comfortable
that
we
would
feel
comfortable,
probably
six
to
eight
yeah.
H
I
mean
everything
is
so
if
everything
worked
out,
ma'am
say
this
was
a
success
say
it
was
received
well
by
the
community.
Yes,
is
this
something
that
you
would
want
to
do
with
this
parking
lot?
Are
you
if,
if
the
one
is
good,
would
you
long
term
be
interested
in
the
space
of
doing
six
day?
Is
that
a
long
term
plan
well.
S
Do
you
know
about
our
mission?
Do
you
know
our
mission?
What
our
mission
is
sure
you
I'm
just
curious.
If
you
know
what
our
mission
is.
S
A
Okay,
just
a
side
question:
what
what
kind
of
numbers
are
we
talking
in
athens
or
athens
county
I
mean?
Is
it
increasing
or
reducing?
What
are
the
smallest.
S
You
know
it
really
really
is
like
every
time
stand
down,
they're
supposed
to
do
a
count,
and
then
it
takes
a
while
to
get
or
whatever.
But
I
would
say
it's
really
weird
when
you
say
county,
if
you
city
and
county,
are
very
different
math
right,
but
I
would
say,
and
some
people
do,
that
are
homeless,
they're
living
in
their
cars.
Okay,
so
that's
happening
a
lot
or
people
are
kind
of
like
couch,
surfing
and.
K
S
A
A
So
not
everyone,
that's
homeless,
comes
to
the
gathering
place
yeah.
So
thank
you.
That's.
I
didn't
know
that
any
other
questions
for
the
appellant.
B
Have
one
person
I'm
gonna,
let
in
looks
like
michelle.
A
Okay,
please
unmute
yourself,
state
your
name
and
your
address
for
the
records.
T
Hi,
I'm
good,
I'm
the
chair
of
the
board
of
the
gathering
place
in
athens,
mental
health
inc
and,
obviously
in
full
support
of
this
project.
T
It
has
been
part
of
our
mission
to
help
some
of
the
people
that
we
serve
at
the
gathering
place
and
at
mike's
bridge
house,
and
for
many
of
you
you
know
that
you
do
see
remnants
of
either
homeless
people
you
know
out
in
the
woods
or
other
places
in
town,
under
our
bridges
in
all
of
this,
and
this
is
something
that
ginger
is
very
passionate
about
as
our
director,
because
she
is
in
daily
contact
with
folks
like
this.
T
You
know
we
thought,
let's
move
forward
and
see
if
we
can
put
this
prototype
on
our
parking
lot
and
let
the
community
members
see
it
and
and
go
from
there
and
maybe
it'll
become
a
bigger,
a
bigger
project.
So
I'm
really
hoping
that
the
board
this
evening
takes
that
into
consideration,
and
it
was
good
that
you
asked
about
the
numbers
in
the
community,
mr
golsey,
because
I
think
that
really
kind
of
highlights
the
need.
A
Yeah
you're
welcome,
I
I
had
no
idea
would
be
that
much
and
don't
you
miss
being
on
the
zoning
board.
Little.
A
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you,
michelle
any
other
questions
from
the
board
members.
A
C
Yes,
that's
correct,
really
we're
talking
about
one
one
structure
here:
yeah
right.
A
A
A
A
S
A
A
N
K
A
A
Vote,
yes,
okay,
john,
yes,
joe
about
yes,
okay,
show
your
finger
up.
Okay,
good,
and
I
would
yes
as
well.
You
will
have
the
permit
and
the
code
office
will
issue
the
permit
for
12
months.
A
A
West
union
street
zone
is
b3,
athens,
soil
and
water.
Conservative
conservation
is
the
appellant
appellant
is
requesting
a
variance
from
acc
250406
acc
250406
f,
to
allow
an
accessory
structure,
a
portable,
enclosed
carport
on
athens,
county
fairgrounds,
greater
than
600
square
feet
that
is
requesting
relief
from
the
elevation
and
dry
flood
proofing
is
the
proofing
standards
and
does
not
meet
the
opening
requirements
of
subsection
2504
o4
e
3..
Mr
rix,
could
you
translate
that
for
us.
C
C
Six
accessory
structures
for
our
floodplain
fairgrounds
area
is
actually
a
political
subdivision
and
they're
not
subject
to
our
legal
rules
and
regulations,
which
is
very
similar
to
ohio
university.
Ohio
university
has
a
lot
of
projects
that
they
do,
that
they
don't
even
submit
a
permit
for
for
the
floodplain
administration.
C
The
appellant
here
did
not
need
to
apply
for
our
permit,
but
they
did,
and
so
what
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
decide
how
to
dispose
of
this
application.
We
refused
it
because
of
250406
accessory
structures.
There's
two
parts
here:
there
exceeds
600
square
feet
of
an
accessory
structure
and
there
also
didn't
have
any
opening
requirements,
as
we
were
required
by
subsection
2504
o4
e3.
C
We
discussed
this
with
legal
and
we
decided
that
the
best
way
to
to
to
dispose
of
this
was
to
was
to
deny
the
permit
and
then
go
through
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
for
this
for
this
permit.
So
what
we
really
need
to
do
is
look
at
the
accessory
structure,
which
is
greater
than
600
square
feet
and
that
the
opening
requirements
are
not
met,
which
is
250406,
accessory
structures,
f,
subsection,
f,
okay,
sorry
about.
C
Yeah,
actually,
the
the
proposal
is
not
exactly
that
I'll.
Let
the
appellant
talk
about
that,
but
they
actually
want
to
enclose
that,
so
they
don't
have
a
protective
structure
so
that
somebody
can't
come
in
and
you
know,
take
property
that
they
own.
A
Okay,
any
questions
for
mr
riggs
from
the
board:
no
okay,
we'll
let
the
appellant
to
take
the
microphone
and
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
records.
Please.
P
I'll
go
ahead
and
talk.
My
name
is:
kellyab
fall,
I'm
supervisor
on
the
for
the
board
of
soil,
water
conservation,
district
and
so
yeah,
basically
we're
putting
up
a
carport
just
like
the
the
the
ones
that
you
buy
and
they're
just
anchored
to
the
ground.
P
I'm
a
total
steel
structure
and
we're
going
to
use
it
to
store
equipment
that
we
rent
to
producers
around
the
county,
so
that
they're,
basically
it's
a
central
location
where
people
can
come
and
get
the
rental
equipment
and-
and
we
wanted
it
to
be
at
the
fairgrounds-
basically
because
we're
niagara
we're
working
with
agricultural
producers
and
that's
kind
of
the
center
of
the
agricultural
world
in
athens,
county.
A
P
A
E
A
A
special
circumstances
applies
because
this
is
the
fair
ground
it's
not
in
is
similar,
and
we
are
talking
about
800
square
feet
versus
600
and
that's
sort
of
a
minimum
difficulty
would
apply
to
and
not
being
able
to
utilize
the
to
restore
their
space
and
preserve
does
not
apply
in
here
is
not
of
nature.
Now
it's
not
that
by
general
nature.
So
if
we
could
to
escape
all
the
rules-
and
just
that
would
be
a
quick
resolution,
okay.