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Athens City Council October 14, 2019
A
Good
evening
and
welcome
to
effing
City
Council,
it's
Monday
October
14th
at
7
o'clock
at
night.
The
first
items
of
business
will
be
ordinances
that
we
will
be
reading
in
this
special
session
and
we're
doing
this
because
some
of
the
ordinances
that
we
have
as
we
approach
the
end
of
the
year
are
time-sensitive.
A
After
that
reading
of
the
ordinances
will
move
into
committees
and
we'll
have
planning
and
development
transportation
and
Finance
and
personnel
so
ordinances
for
third
reading
96:19
is
an
ordinance
authorizing
the
mayor
to
redesign
eight
hulking
Athens
Perry
community
action
programs,
Happ
gap
to
administer
Athens
public
transit.
This
is
introduced
by
councilmember
consus
president.
B
B
Just
at
the
beginning
of
this
year,
let
me
go
over
Tamiya
I
apologize,
there's
so
many
things
that
I
have
to
talk
about
tonight:
January
1st
2020
through
the
December
31st
2022.
Thank
you
and
this.
This
basically
is
to
work
with
Happ
cap
in
tandem
with
the
with
their
Athens
public
transit
and
I
also
want
to
mention
this.
Would
the
2019
budget
was
for
$225,000,
we'll
be
figuring
out?
A
B
Will
be
determined
to
some
degree,
I
was
told,
let's
see
and
2018
the
local
match
was
10%,
and
this
year
the
local
match
is
twenty,
and
so,
if
the
local
match
stays
at
twenty,
we'll
still
still
stay
at
that
rate
of
$225,000.
But,
like
I
said
we
don't
know
what
that
will
be
determined
until
almost
a
year.
From
now
could.
B
C
B
D
Patterson
I
want
to
mention
a
little
bit
of
information
for
Council
on
bus
route,
7
in
particular
bus
route
7
in
its
first
month,
had
a
thousand
rides
on
it,
which
is
pretty
important.
The
other
thing
that
I
have
been
told
by
the
mayor
of
Albany
is
that
it
is
also
made
job
attainment
easier,
and
he
mentioned
basically
three
individuals
in
particular,
who
now
have
a
way
to
get
to
a
job
and
back
again
in
a
responsible
fashion
or
otherwise
they
would
not
be
able
to
do
that.
So
I
just
share
that.
B
A
All
right
any
other
comments
or
questions
all
right.
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye
opposed,
nay
motion
carries
and
the
ordinance
is
approved.
Ordinance.
97
19
is
an
ordinance
authorizing
the
mayor
to
read:
Essig
Nate,
Hawking,
Athens,
Perry,
community
action
programs,
hap
cap
as
the
contract
administrator
for
the
ohio
rural
intercity
bus
program
and
as
go
bus
and
declaring
an
emergency.
This
is
introduced
by
councilmember
consus
president.
B
Nicely
I'd
like
to
take
a
take
the
moment
to
make
a
motion
to
adopt
zero,
97
19
thing,
and
this
is
once
again
it's
another
MOU.
This
one
is
also
with
hap
cap,
and
this
is
to
to
work
in
tandem
with
them
with
their
with
the
go
bus
program.
This
one
does
not
require
us
to
to
pay
anything
in,
but
we
actually
do
receive
rent
from
go
bus
to
the
tune
of
about
$24,000
a
year
for
them
to
use
the
bus
station
in
ticketing
purposes
at
the
community
center.
B
A
B
A
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye
opposed,
nay
motion
carries
and
the
ordinance
is
approved.
Ordinance.
98
19
is
an
ordinance
suspending
athens
city
code,
section,
seven
point:
zero,
five
point:
zero:
three
continuous
parking
in
the
same
location
from
Sunday
December,
fifteenth
2019
through
midnight
on
Wednesday
January,
1st
2019
missus,
introduced
by
councilmember
cot
system.
President.
B
Nicely
thank
you,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
adopt
0
98
19
second,
and
this
is
a
suspension
of
our
24-hour
parking
rules
that
we
that
we
have
throughout
our
public
right
of
ways
and
from
December
15th
through
January
1st
of
2019
to
January
1st
2020
that
allows
us
that
allows
people
to
go
home
wherever
that
home
may
be,
and
just
leave
their
car
here
and
not
worried
about
lasting
a
bunch
of
tickets.
In
that
time.
Okay,
we.
A
Have
a
motion
in
second
per
approval
of
98
19
any
comments
or
questions
from
Council
members,
administration
or
the
audience
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed,
nay,
the
motion
carries
and
the
ordinance
is
approved,
ordinance
9990,
the
ordinance
authorizing
the
service
Safety
Director
to
suspend
temporarily
the
fee
for
parking
at
metered
spaces
in
the
municipal
parking
garage
introduced
by
councilmember
copses.
Those.
B
Are
nicely
thank
you,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
adopt
0
99
19,
and
this
is
to
suspend
those
fees
for
parking
in
the
parking
garage
excluding
to
our
de
metered
spaces.
This
is
after
5
p.m.
on
Thursday,
December,
5th,
December,
12,
December,
19th
and
all
days
Saturday,
November,
30th
and
December,
7th,
14th
and
21st
2019.
B
A
A
A
motion
and
second
any
other
comments
or
questions
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed,
nay,
the
motion
carries
and
the
ordinance
is
approved.
Ordinance.
100
119
is
an
ordinance
amending
Athens
city
code,
title
three:
administrative
provisions,
chapter
3.07,
administrative
departments,
boards
and
commissions,
sections
3.0,
seven
point:
seven:
zero
and
three
point:
zero:
seven,
seven
point:
seven
one:
Athens
City
Commission
on
disabilities:
this
is
introduced
by
councilmember
fall
and.
E
F
A
Have
a
motion
and
second
for
approval
of
101
19,
any
other
comments
or
questions
from
administration
or
council
members
or
the
audience
well,
there's
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed,
nay,
the
motion
carries
and
the
ordinance
is
approved.
We
now
have
ordinances
for
second
reading.
I
will
read
them
through
and
unless
we
have
any
suspensions,
it
will
pretty
much
be
reading
the
titles
of
them
unless
there
are
comments
or
questions.
So
I
will
pause
briefly
after
each
one
to
see
if
there
are
any
comments
or
questions.
A
104
19
is
an
ordinance
authorizing
the
service
Safety
Director
to
advertise
and
accept
bids
where
necessary,
for
design
of
the
Columbia
Avenue
sanitary
sewer.
This
is
introduced
by
councilmember
Butler,
okay,
no
comments
or
questions
I'll
move
on
105
19
is
an
ordinance
amending
the
2019
appropriation
ordinance
and
is
introduced
by
councilmember
Eisner.
A
106
19
is
an
ordinance
authorizing
the
mayor
to
enter
into
or
to
extend
the
agreement
with
a
board
of
athens
county
commissioners
for
the
purpose
of
obtaining
the
services
of
the
public
defender's
office
through
December
31st
2020.
This
is
introduced
by
councilmember
Reisner
no
comments
or
questions
I'll
move
on
to
the
next
one
ordinance
107
19
is
an
ordinance
amending
ordinance,
142,
18
staffing
levels
and
declaring
an
emergency
and
is
introduced
by
the
Finance
and
Personnel
Committee.
A
A
And
if
no
comments,
then
we
will
move
on
to
ordinance
and
ordinance
for
first
reading
and
that
is
1
1019.
This
is
an
ordinance
authorizing
the
mayor
to
enter
into
an
agreement
to
provide
financial
support
from
the
city's
transient
guests
tax
to
the
outdoor
recreation,
Council
of
Appalachia,
known
as
Orca
for
funding
the
bailey's
trail
system,
along
with
other
recreational
activities
and
is
introduced
by
councilmember
Eisner.
Thank.
E
You,
madam
president,
allow
me
to
read
the
pertinent
sections
here.
We
read
the
title
section
1.
The
mayor
is
hereby
authorized
to
enter
into
an
agreement
through
December
31st
2042,
provide
financial
support
from
the
city's
transient
guests
tax
paid
into
the
general
fund
to
the
outdoor
recreation,
Council
of
Appalachia
Orca,
a
Regional
Council
of
Governments
cog
for
funding.
The
Bailey's
trail
system,
along
with
other
recreational
activities,
said
authorizations
shall
be
contingent
upon
an
agreement
for
the
same
level
of
financial
support
through
December
thirty.
First,
two
thousand
forty
by
the
county
of
Athens.
E
A
C
I
do
have
some
questions
I'm
concerned.
One
thing
that
I'm
very
concerned
over
is
first
I'd
like
to
say,
I,
think
it's
a
great
project
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
project.
Well,
I
think
it's
a
very
specialized
interest
project
and
it
doesn't
necessarily
benefit
all
of
the
citizens
of
Athens
and
I
know
what
we're
really
thinking.
That,
of
course,
will
reap
the
benefits
somehow
indirectly
through
the
different
programs,
and
that
may
be,
but
it
may
not
be
so.
I
I
had
a
question,
probably
the
most
important
question
that
can
be
asked
in
this
instance.
C
It's
a
question
of
whether
this
would
still
be
funded.
If
the
city
of
Athens
says
no
we're
not
going
to
do
it
and
I
had
asked
somebody
recently
the
question.
Well,
since
this
is
a
very
specialized
kind
of
project,
and
there
are
chapters
mountain
by
chapters
all
over
the
country,
would
they
be
willing
to
contribute
to
seeing
this
actually
accomplished
and
the
response
that
I
received
from
what
I
would
say
a
credible
source
would
be.
This
is
going
to
get
done,
whether
the
city
approves
it
or
not.
C
Now,
I
just
want
you
to
think
about
that
just
for
a
minute,
because
what
we're
doing
is
asking
for
20
years
of
city
money
for
a
project
that
could
possibly
have
all
sorts
of
problems
with
anywhere
from
climate
impact.
Climate
change
impact
to
you
know
the
funding
of
city
projects
that
we
would
need
money
to
the
impact,
the
oil
and
gas
in
Southeast
Ohio,
so
that
people
would
not
want
to
come
here.
C
So
there
are
those
kind
of
issues.
I
I
really
am
concerned
about
this.
So
that's
the
question
now
I
would
say
if
we,
if
there's
a
good
chance,
this
would
be
funded
by
other
sources
and
I'm
sure
that
people
could
address
that.
Then
why
should
the
city
be
paying
the
money
and
one
other
thing
I
really
want
to
emphasize
I'm
really
bothered
by.
This
is
the
fact
that
when
this
was
presented
to
Council
at
the
committee
meeting,
we
had
a
chance
to
ask
a
few
questions.
C
The
very
last
person
was
the
one
who
probably
had
the
most
information
that
we
needed
to
hear
and
we
weren't
given
the
opportunity
to
ask
that
person
any
questions,
because
he
said,
if
you
remember
he
said
this
has
been
generating
income
for
other
places
and
he
listed
two
or
three
places.
I
believe
one
was
Colorado,
that
kind
of
example,
but
when
I
asked
the
question
of
the
person
who
was
promoting
this
project,
I
asked
him:
do
you
have
any
similar
instances?
He
said?
C
No,
so
I
have
some
real
problems
with
the
city
going
forward
on
this
to
start
with.
If
we
don't
know
if
we
have
no
real
statistics
or
evidence
for
the
city
to
go
forward
and
I
hope,
the
administration
will
provide
us
with
that,
rather
than
having
one
witness
come
in
at
the
very
end
that
we
don't
get
to
ask
any
questions,
because
that
was
really
inappropriate.
So
thank
you.
C
E
Personal
as
well,
not
as
a
council
person
to
make
a
vote,
yeah
I
know,
yeah
do
I
know
that
there's
other
sources,
no
I,
don't
know
I
mean.
If
you
put
me
on
a
witness
and
make
me
swear
mr.
rice
Turner,
do
you
know
there's
other
I'd
have
to
say
no,
sir
I
do
not
know.
Okay,
you
suspect
there
are
that's
a
supposition
on
my
part
in
that
speculation.
I'm,
not
gonna,
speculate.
Okay.
A
D
What
I
would
like
to
share
is
that
there's
nothing
that
prohibits
the
city
from
seeking
other
funding
down
the
road,
whether
that's
2020,
2021,
2026,
whatever.
If
we
can
find
funding
that
we
might
be
eligible
for
applying,
for
we
can
actually
put
that
towards
what
we're
paying
and
and
have
it
paid
off
early.
You
know
and
have
it
done.
I
will
give
you
one
example
and
again
this
is
very
early
councilmember
Magee,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
just
exploring
today
is
the
possibility
of
having
a
state
capital
bill
budget
item
in
there.
D
But
again
that
isn't
going
to
be
released,
for
you
know
a
year
or
two
out
for
funding,
but
it's
something
that
this
sir
sure
worth
exploring
to
pay
down
on
the
city's
portion,
but
there's
nothing
in
there.
That
would
prohibit
the
city
from
paying
down
more
quickly
if
we
were
to
find
other
granting
grant
funding
out
there.
So.
F
That's,
there's
no
balloon
payment
on
the
sort
of
thing,
because,
when
I,
when
people
were
describing
it
to
me,
it
sounded
like
one
of
those
where
at
the
end
of
7
years,
it
kind
of
refigured
and
then
that
it
was
for
20
years
and
the
payment
was
different
depending
on
certain
other
metrics.
But
it
is
a
we
can
pay
it
off
early
is
what
you're
saying
oh
yeah:
it
isn't
over
that
amount
of
money
over
that
20
years.
Would
that
be
what
we
would
have
to
pay
off
early.
D
Well,
your
what
you're
talking
about
is
the
the
success
portion
of
this.
You
know
if
this,
if
this
trail
system
has
no
writers
whatsoever,
you
know
it
fails.
You
know.
Is
that
likely?
No
and
then
you
know
there's
a
kind
of
a
mid-level
portion
or
mid
level
of
success,
and
then
there
would
be
a
highly
successful
kind
of
range
to
so
that's
kind
of
what
you're
getting
at
that.
If
it's,
if
it,
if
the
trail
is
found
to
be,
you
know
excessively
successful,
it's
just
wildly
successful.
D
When
we
have
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people
writing
it,
then
it
would
be
reflected
in
the
transient
guests
tax
on
the
city
side
of
which
the
Voinovich
school
will
be
looking
at.
You
know
the
success
portion
of
us
as
we
move
forward
or
not
success,
and
if
it's
succeeding
better
than
expectation,
we're
gonna
see
more
revenue
coming
in
and
on
the
county
side.
Well,
I
can't
speak
for
the
county.
No,
let
the
county
speak
for
themselves.
That's
where
the
higher
amount
that
we
would
be
paying
in
would
come
from.
G
Remember
McGee
understands
that
the
city
and
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
can
withdraw
from
this
agreement
at
any
time
in
the
20
years
that
the
agreement
stipulates
your
your
financially
obligated
to
the
end
of
that
fiscal
year
in
which
you've
withdrawn,
but
that's
not
locking
us
into
a
20-year
period.
Now
we
did
talk
about
in
committee
about
making
it
contingent
with
the
county
of
being
partners
in
this
and
I
see
that
that
language
has
been
included
in
the
ordinance.
G
Said
authorization
shall
be
contingent
upon
an
agreement
or
the
same
level
of
financial
support
through
December
21st
by
the
county
of
Athens,
and
the
last
line
is
a
copy
of
set.
Agreement
is
attached
here
to
and
incorporated
here
in
my
reference,
but
that
refers
to
the
Orca
agreement,
not
to
the
agreement
with
the
county.
A
Don't
we
don't?
We
know
it's
just
that
it's
building
it
on
the
fact
that
the
county
has
been
involved
in
the
discussions.
The
county
has
brought
it
forward
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge
on
their
agenda
and
discussed
it,
and
the
county
has
indicated
that
they
will
be
moving
taking
financial
support
under
consideration
once
ours
is
at
the
second
reading.
G
C
Concerning
that,
this
is
labeled,
an
outdoor
recreation
environment
impact
bond
for
3.6
million
those
cities,
basically
on
the
hook
for
tatha,
that
is,
my
understanding
of
the
county
would
be
on
the
hook
for
the
other
half
we
also
have,
since
these
people
are
doing
a
bond
and
the
gentleman
indicated
that
he
was
getting
basically
4%
interest.
I
would
assume
that
that
interest
rate
and
money
that
the
investors
would
be
making
out
of
that
would
be
coming
from
the
anticipated
increase
after
seven
years
of
benefit
to
the
city,
either
I
understand
all
that.
C
It's
it's
a
very
interesting
concept,
of
course,
we're
still
on
the
hook
for
the
90,000
I
believe,
even
if
we
suddenly
are
not
making
the
money
and
I
don't
see
if
we're
calling
it
a
bond
and
we're
going
through
this
process,
is
there
any
language
that
specifically
allows
us
to
withdraw
after
the
second
year
or
something
like
that?
If
there
is
and
then
the
question
becomes,
how
can
you
possibly
call
this
a
bond
or
are
we
signing
a
bond?
That's
what
I
want
to
I.
A
We
have
the
auditor
here,
but
I
think
we
can
clarify
we're
not
on
the
hook
for
a
bond.
We
are
not
entering
into
a
bond
agreement.
The
Port
Authority
is
the
one
under
considering
the
bond,
which
would
provide
the
cash
up
front
from
the
Recreation
Commission
to
be
able
to
start
the
construction
exactly.
H
Right,
okay,
thank
you.
I
know
we're
not
signing
off
on
any
bond.
We
are
pledging
to
give
a
portion
of
our
transient
guests
tax
revenue
to
Orca
and
they
are
the
ones
working
with
the
Port
Authority
to
take
out
the
bond,
and
so
we
there.
The
wording
in
here
is
is
with
Orphic.
That's
who
we
will
be
paying
is
Orca,
and
then
they
will
work
with
the
Port
Authority
on
the
bond
paid
bond
payment.
A
C
H
Opt-Out
languages
in
there
that
the
mayor
said
it
absolutely
is
now.
We
had
two
different
documents
on
bring
Devi
into
this
because
Lisa's
been
here,
but
the
three
of
us
sat
down
last
week
and
it
was
90
days
and
one
spot
in
120
in
another.
But
there
is
opt-out
language
in
there
and
as
member
cross,
that
you
have
to
give
them
that
leeway.
But
then
you
also
whatever
exact
timing.
H
H
H
It
is
there's,
there's
a
maximum
to
what
we
might
have
to
pay
because
we're
pledging
a
portion
of
our
transient
guests
tax
monies
and
if
we
do
get
an
increase,
but
we
can't
in
my
mind
we
can't
tie
ourselves
to
just
that
increase
for
any
length
of
time
and
that
it
no
point
would
we
want
to
pay
more
than
125,000,
and
so
that
would
be
our
max
and
and
yeah
it's
seven
years.
It
recalculates
at
five
years.
J
I
was
just
going
to
read
section
for
about
withdrawal.
Any
member
may
withdraw
from
Orca
upon
90
days,
written
notice
of
each
or
to
each
of
the
other
members.
Withdrawal
will
be
final
after
the
90th
day,
except
that
all
obligations,
financial
or
otherwise,
to
Barca
assumed
by
the
member
prior
to
submitting
the
notice
of
intent
to
withdraw,
shall
continue
until
the
end
of
Orcas,
then
current
fiscal
year,
so
it
at
any
point
this
the
city
can
withdraw,
but
we
would
have
to
maintain
our
commitment
to
the
end
of
that
fiscal
year.
H
A
C
Just
want
to
emphasize
that
I
I
appreciate
member
Grace
bringing
this
stuff
about
the
exact
language
on
this
I
was
concerned,
because
at
the
time
of
the
committee
meeting
again
when
the
presentation
was
made,
the
initial
thing
was
listed
as
I
believe
a
pledge,
and
then
it
became
a
contract
with
the
language
of
the
person
who
was
giving
the
presentation
and-
and
he
used
the
word
bond
at
one
time.
So
I
would
hope
that
the
city
in
signing
the
documents
and
this
I'm
sure
this
would
be
extensive
documents
that
we
realized.
C
K
K
D
J
Just
wondering,
because
our
ordinance
is
contingent
upon,
basically
the
County
pledging
to
match
what
we
as
a
city
are
doing.
Should
there
also
be
language
or
core
it
doesn't
does
it
matter?
Is
it
important
regarding
what,
if
one
or
the
other
of
us
chooses
to
to
withdraw
from
the
agreement
it
if
we're
joining,
is
contingent
upon
the
county
also
joining
up?
J
So
if
both
and
I
don't
I,
don't
know
if
the
county's
agreement
is,
is
going
to
be
essentially
contingent
on
the
city
sort
of
we're
codependent
entities
in
this,
then
then
what
if,
what,
if
one
or
the
other
choose
to
withdraw?
How
does
that
impact
the
other
I
I?
Don't
necessarily
expect
someone
to
have
an
answer,
but
I
think
it
is
something
since
our
our
finances
are
certainly
linked,
but
what
are
substantially
different
as
well.
I
I,
don't
know
if,
if
we
want
to
consider
including
language
regarding
that
or
just
consider
that
possibility.
A
Mm-Hmm,
okay
and
I
think
what
yeah
the
clerk
is
indicating
that
she
thinks
that
the
the
the
agreement,
as
is,
does
cover
that
possibility.
We
can
do
a
double
check
before
the
second
reading,
though,
just
to
make
sure
I
appreciate
the
comment.
Thank
you
any
other
comments
or
questions.
Is
there
anybody
from
the
audience
that
wants
to
offer
a
comment
or
question
or
yep
John
John
McCarthy
from
the
yes
and
did
you
have
a
comment
you
wanted
to
make
while
she's
getting
ready
to
speak?
Okay,
so.
K
D
I
L
Good
evening
and
thank
you
president
nicely
I
would
like
to
address
a
couple
of
questions
from
councilmember.
Mcgee
I
know
that
he
had
questions
about.
Would
the
trail
system
be
funded
without
your
assistance?
It
would
eventually
we've
been
working
on
getting
grants.
As
an
example,
we
have
worked
with
Athens
County
Foundation.
They
received
a
National
Forest
Foundation
grant
in
partnership
with
REI
for
150,000.
L
Likewise,
rural
action
received
an
Appalachian
Regional
Commission
power
grant
for
1.2
million.
Another
150,000
of
that
is
going
towards
construction,
but
most
of
that
funding
is
actually
going
towards
the
support
system
for
the
infrastructure,
including
entrepreneurial
development,
and
support,
so
the
training
piece,
the
Workforce,
Development,
C
community
activation
and
then
also
marketing.
L
So
it's
really
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
just
build
the
infrastructure,
but
that
we
also
build
the
support
system
needed
to
make
this
a
successful
trail
system
and
I
also
heard
your
your
comments
about
Seth
Brown
when
he
was
here
last
mentioning
there
were
no
other
case
studies.
I
think
there
was
a
little
confusion
there.
He
was
mentioning
he
was
speaking
to
the
actual
environmental
impact
fund
for
an
outdoor
recreation
project.
This
is
the
first
of
its
kind.
L
However,
there
are
multiple
case
studies
and
I'm
guessing
that
Danny
twilly,
who
is
also
here
who
spoke
to
this
last
time,
will
be
happy
to
speak
to
this.
There
are
many
case
studies,
and
these
were
used
in
a
feasibility
study
that
quantified
ventures
put
together
before
they
went
into
the
transaction
structuring
for
the
conservation
finance
project.
L
An
example
is
37
million
dollars
of
economic
impact
has
been
brought
into
Arkansas
from
similar
mountain
bike
studies,
I'm
gonna,
let
Danny
speak
to
those
we've
seen
similar
projects
in
Minnesota,
the
Iron
Range
KY.
You
know
they've
they've
brought
in
I'm,
not
sure
the
number,
but
it's
similar
numbers
to
what
we're
talking
about
for
this
project.
There
have
been
other
places:
Oakridge,
Oregon
and
I'm
gonna.
Let
Danny
speak
to
a
few
more
of
those.
L
But
yes,
there
are
many
case
studies
and
we
can
provide
as
many
of
those
that
you
would
like
so
I
did
want
to
speak
a
little
more
to
the
whole.
Would
it
be
funded,
we
would
rely
on
grants
and
instead
of
building
it
over
the
next
two
to
three
years,
we
would
be
relying
on
grant
cycles
and
we
would
not
be
able
to
fund
it
and
construct
the
whole
88
mile
trail
system,
probably
for
10
to
15
years,
which
would
reduce
the
impact
that
this
can
have
on
local
communities.
L
L
Additionally,
when
we
talk
about
the
outdoor
recreation
council
that
bolacha
and
funding
that
so
it
yes,
the
funds
would
go
towards
the
Bailey's,
but
it
would
also
go
to
setting
up
the
Council
of
Governments,
the
nonprofit
that
will
be
associated
with
that
gives
you
an
opportunity
to
potentially
hire
an
executive
director
who
could
then
apply
for
more
grants
and
really
build
up
the
program.
That
would
then
benefit
all
outdoor
recreation
across
Athens
County.
L
So
we're
really
striving
for
cross-boundary
outdoor
recreation
management,
something
that
we
haven't
done
in
the
past,
but
I
think
it
would
be
much
more
effective
if
we
all
work
together
to
manage
and
maintain
recreation
rather
than
staying
in
our
silos.
So
unless
there
any
questions,
it's
ultimately
Magee.
C
On
the
you've
mentioned
the
Oregon
and
the
Arkansas,
which
I
believe
the
gentleman
who
was
here
last
time
would
be
able
to
give
us
some
feedback
on
him,
what
its,
what
the
studies
are
based
on
I
think
my
question
is:
do
you
know?
Are
those
programs
really
similar
to
the
proposal
at
all,
or
maybe
he
should
have
addressed
them
in.
C
More
concerned
about
the
the
location
of
the
trail
to
the
city
of
Athens,
as
opposed
to
the
plains
or
even
Columbus
I
mean.
Is
this
the
kind
of
thing
that
it's
gonna
be
more
people
will
come
down
for
the
day
and
here's
a
trail
system
and
then
go
home
or
is
it
the
kind
of
thing
that
people
are
going
to
actually
spend
some
time
in
Athens
and
the
thing
that
I
like,
for
instance,
was
a
windy?
Nine
I
think
mike.
C
M
Yeah
I'll
try
to
address
that
just
a
little
bit
so
you're
talking
about
the
kingdom
trails
which
they
basically
have
been
seen,
an
increase
in
twenty
percent
growth
rate
over
the
last
eight
worth:
half
its
kingdom
tribes,
I'm,
sorry
in
north
wet
or
northeast
Vermont.
So
it's
really
out
in
the
middle
of
nowhere.
It's
about
three
and
a
half
hours
from
Boston
about
two
and
a
half
hours
from
Montreal
it
Israel
or
community.
M
It's
substantially
smaller
without
the
infrastructure
here
for
opportunities
for
spending,
as
we
would
see
here
in
Athens
from
the
road
from
the
hotels
and
restaurants
stablishment
that
we
would
see
here.
They've
been
seen
for
the
last
eight
years
about
a
20%
increase
in
visitation
for
last
year.
They
saw
one
hundred
and
forty
thousand
visitors
and
they
estimated
that
was
a
ten
million
dollars
in
direct
spending.
M
In
a
single
year.
The
Northwest
Arkansas
example
they're
seen
between
ninety
and
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
visitors
a
year,
and
it's
about
27
million
dollars
in
direct
spending
that
they're
seen
Northwest
Arkansas
it's
about
30
miles
from
Fayetteville,
which
is
where
they
have
their
main
université
Bentonville
is
built
up
around
Walmart,
but
it's
also
a
relatively
rural
and
isolated
area.
It's
not
easy
to
get
to
the
major
cities.
You'll
you'll
see
your
st.
M
Louis
is
probably
one
of
the
closer
major
cities,
and
then
you
have
to
start
getting
into
Texas
and
some
of
those
areas.
So
again,
I
think
we
are
much
closer
to
some
major
urban
population
centers
as
Pittsburgh
Columbus,
Cincinnati
and
Cleveland.
In
addition,
we
know
that
people
are
willing
to
visit
this
area
in
this
region.
For
instance,
we
know
somewhere
between
again
it's.
It
depends
on
who
you
ask
three
and
a
half
to
five
million
visitors
through
the
Hocking
Hills
region.
So
we
know
people
are
willing
to
come
down.
M
We
just
want
to
get
them
a
little
bit
further
down
into
our
area,
so
you
know
we
also
know
in
Western,
North
Carolina,
just
from
mountain
biking
in
Western
North
Carolina.
They
saw
30
million
dollars
in
spending
in
a
single
year.
So
again,
I
think.
The
point
is,
is
that
we
are
around
some
major
urban
or
major
population.
Centers,
there's
nothing
of
this
size
within
within
reach
of
those
those
areas.
So
I
think
that's
really.
M
The
key
key
takeaway
is
that
Cincinnati
they
really
have
one
I
mean
they
can
go
to
Brown
County,
but
it's
not
nearly
the
mileage
or
that
we'll
have
so
we
and
there's
not
much
around
there
either
so
I
think
that's
going
to
be
the
key
pieces.
We're
gonna
be
able
to
draw
people
here
because
it
is
so
unique.
It
is
so
large
and
we
obviously
have
something
very
special
here
in
Athens
and
southeast
Ohio
from
a
cultural
art
community
standpoint.
Thank
you.
Does
that.
M
M
C
The
the
cutter
was
basically
as
I
mean
you've
quoted
some
some
interesting
figures.
Oh
150,000
people
is
a
lot
for
a
very
short
time
period,
which
I
would
assume
for
the
time
period.
Then
mountain
biking
would
be
used.
Most
would
probably
be
three
or
four
months.
Maybe
five,
but
I
I
just
wanted
how
many
of
those
are
actually
people
who
are
coming
to
the
area
for
other
things,
I
mean
oh
yeah.
My
real
question
is:
if
somebody
wanted
to
check
your
stats
on
this,
I
mean:
where
would
they
go
so.
M
D
To
remind
council,
because
I
can't
think
council
knows
this-
is
that
our
most
struggling
period
of
the
year
here
in
Athens
is
summer.
You
know
to
where
our
businesses
end
up
having
to
trim
way
down
in
terms
of
employees,
which
we
all
know
what
that
does
for
the
city
and
in
a
case
like
this,
to
where,
on
the
other
hand,
if
we
had
a
hundred
and
forty
hundred
and
eighty,
however
many
you
know
visits
that
those
people
are
likely
going
to
come
into
the
part
of
our
county.
That
has
the
most
resources
for
shopping
dining.
D
You
know
staying
overnight,
you
know
a
number
of
different
things,
and
so
that
is
keeping
people.
You
know
gainfully
employed
through
the
summer
months
and
I
would
contend
again:
I'm
not
I'm,
not
a
mountain
biker
at
all
yeah
but
I
think
to
couch
it
as
something
that
is
as
truncated
as
you
just
mentioned,
celts
member
of
gear.
You
know,
I
would
imagine
that
there's
mountain
bikers
out
there
that
enjoy
writing.
D
You
know
in
march,
even
though
it's
probably
still
chilly
and
maybe
a
little
bit
soggy
out
there,
but
to
continue
to
ride
or
into
this
time
of
year
or
november.
You
know
I
could
imagine
that
again,
I,
don't
not
bike.
So
that's
not
my
gig
I
would
imagine
that
you
know
there's
probably
some
hardcore
riders
that
would
be
riding
during
December
January,
February
yeah.
M
And
so
you
know
when
there's
snow
on
the
ground
and
the
ground
freezes,
there's
a
lot
of
access
and-
and
you
know
they
have
even
new
equipment-
that's
been
developed
recently
in
terms
of
biking
that
allows
for
you
to
take
advantage
of
the
snow
and
more
hardback
and
I.
Think
it's
also
important
to
recognize
is
that
some
of
the
research
that
we
found
is
that
you
know
serious
mountain
bikers
will
travel
up
to
six
weekends
a
year
to
mountain
bike,
and
so
you
know
this.
M
The
the
model
that
that
Seth
and
his
team
put
together
on
180,000
visitors
was
primarily
built
off
mountain
bikers
I
mean
we
haven't
even
accounted
for.
The
role
of
you
know:
hikers
trail
runners
and
the
work
that
Michael
Owen
is
doing
with
southeast
trail
runners,
heals
several
events
and
that's
a
you
very
thriving
community.
That's
growing
rapidly
nationally,
so
so
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
other
user
groups
that
can
really
help
us
get
to
that.
Those
figures
of
a
hundred
and
eighty
180
thousand
visitors
is
what
the
projections
were
built
off
of.
M
M
The
answer
is
yes,
so
you
know
some
of
the
research
that
I've
done.
It
shows
that
the
two
things
that
are
very
important
to
them
when
they
in
terms
of
amenity
preferences
or
local
restaurants,
the
thing
that
they
like
the
least,
are
national
chains.
So
they
love
local
restaurants
that
what
they
like
to
do
is
when
they're
not
on
their
bikes
is
drink.
Beer
was
their
top.
This
is
a
happier
craft
here
was
the
key
thing
with
that
so
yeah,
so
they
they
like
to
eat.
D
I
may
share
with
Council
something
that's
anecdotal
to
this.
Paul
log
was
just
attending
the
creative
placemaking
conference
in
Davis,
West
Virginia,
and
what
he
reported
to
me
is
when
he
was
there,
along
with
several
other
people,
that
people
in
Davis
and
in
Thomas
West
Virginia,
which
is
in
the
middle
of
the
Canaan
Valley.
They
know
about
this.
They
know
about
the
Bailey
trail
system
and
apparently
there's
a
lot
of
chatter
going
on
in
West
Virginia
already
about
the
possible
opportunity
of
having
88
miles
of
mountain
biking.
D
Trail
I
also
want
to
share
something
with
you
call
Tamara
McGee
I
was
sitting
here
just
in
hell
thinking,
what's
what's
a
decent
example
to
give
you
in
terms
of
the
time
that
someone
would
spend,
if
you
think
about
how
much
time
an
individual
would
take
to
even
traverse,
you
know
88
miles
of
the
Appalachian
Trail
or
the
Pacific
Crest
Trail,
or
something
like
that.
But
now
take
that
long
trail,
that's
going
through
multiple
jurisdictions
or
whatever
and
now
coil
that
all
around
and
doing
an
88
mile
mountain
biking
trail
in
9,000
acres.
D
M
Having
hiked
to
80
I
can
tell
you
how
long
it
will
take
you
to
go
88
miles,
but
I.
Think
one
of
the
important
things
to
recognize
is
that
visitation
that
projection
is
built
up
over
time.
It's
not
like
you
build
it,
and
then
the
next
day
we
have
a
hundred
eighty
thousand
visitors
it.
It
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
build
up
that
that
infrastructure
and
that
support
network
to
continue
to
capture
them
and
bring
them
back
to
our
community.
So
those
are
some
of
the
opportunities.
C
A
C
L
L
So
they
would
be
working
on
developing
workshops,
providing
resources
also
working
on
this
whole
gap.
Analysis
of
what
are
we
missing
in
this
area?
What
are
your
interests?
You
know
for
business
development,
we're
talking,
I,
there's
no
funding
there
now
but
they're
starting
to
talk
about
potential
seed
funding
to
help
those
those
individuals
get
their
business
off
the
ground.
But
this
this
is
the
type
of
work
they're
talking
about,
so
workshops
keep
teaching
people
how
how
to
run
a
business.
You
know
giving
them
the
opportunities
to
work
with
ace
net
talking
about
the
creative
placemaking.
L
If
I
could
add
one
more
theme,
as
as
a
result
of
this
power
grant,
we
will
be
working
with
the
Appalachian
Conservation
Corps,
which
is
it's
an
AmeriCorps
program,
but
they
will
be
working
with
our
trail
builders
to
help
them
construct.
The
trail
we
and
as
opposed
to
bringing
in
other
crews
like
this
we've
worked
with
other
crews,
where
they
bring
in
people
from
elsewhere.
L
To
do
the
work
we
are
working
with
the
Appalachian
Conservation
Corps,
who
is
willing
to
hire
young
adults
and
teach
them
how
to
build
and
maintain
trails
and
give
them
an
opportunity
to
then
translate
that
into
education
and
a
career
in
natural
resource
management.
So
we
are
trying
to
look
at
that
as
well.
And
half
cap
is
a
partner
with
us
in
that
as
well.
Councilmember.
J
A
Okay,
all
right,
we'll
move
on
to
resolution
919,
and
this
is
the
second
reading,
a
resolution
accepting
the
petitions
and
Articles
of
Incorporation
of
the
Athens
up
town,
a
special
Improvement
District
known
as
a
CID,
and
declaring
it
necessary
to
improve
certain
areas
of
town
Athens
and
declaring
an
emergency,
and
this
was
in
this.
It
has
been
introduced
and
it's
now
being
read
for
the
second
time
introduced
by
councilmember,
fall.
D
G
F
D
D
I
think
it's
East
Union
to
college
as
well
as
going
further
south
on
Court
Street.
As
far
as
president
Street
I
believe.
So
they
to
know
that
this
is
a
good
investment
in
terms
of
having
beautification
projects
on
Court,
Street
I
think
they
also
I
know
they
do
because
conversations
that
I've
had
with
President
Nellis
understand
that
if,
if
we
can
really
change
the
look
and
feel
of
the
Uptown
area
through
something
like
the
special
Improvement
District,
it
would
certainly
help
be
helpful.
D
When
we
have
potential
I,
don't
know,
that's
called
the
parent
visitation
day,
recruitment,
whatever
it
is
when
they
come
down
and
they
look
at
campus
and
whatnot,
and
if
the
Uptown
area
also
looks
nice
and
it
would
be
the
general
assembly
that
also
decides
what
do
they
want
that
money
to
be
spent
towards
you
know?
Could
it
be
to
have
all
the
gum
removed
from
the
sidewalks
in
the
Uptown
area?
That
would
be
up
to
them
snow
removal
having
someone
who's,
maintaining
flowers
in
the
Uptown
area,
there's
a
whole
sundry
thing
park
benches.
D
Whatever
that
it's
their
decision,
we
would
have
a
voice
in
that
too,
since
we
would
have
a
seat
at
the
table
and
I'm.
Well,
that's
for
council
to
decide,
but
I
know
that
helps
number
fall
has
been
in
in
some
of
the
conversations
going
back
to
2016
on
the
special
Improvement
District.
So
we
don't
know
what
that
amount
would.
D
E
A
We
have
a
motion
and
second
for
a
journey
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed,
nay,
okay,
we
have
adjourned
that
special
session.
We're
now
going
to
immediately
move
on
to
planning
and
development
and
for
discussion
tonight.
The
first
item
is
the
short-term
rentals
I
will
proceed
that
your
discussion
by
saying
we
know
there
are
a
number
of
people
here
who
would
like
to
offer
comments.
A
We
would
offer
that
we
have
received
comments
and
questions
from
former
BCA
person
and
historian
Betty
hollow.
We
have
also
received
some
information
from
mr.
Stouffer
I
know
you
have
a
number
of
questions
that
you've
addressed
to
counsel
and
then
we've
also
received
some
information
from
Dianne
McVeigh
and
that
has
been
posted
to
the
council
members
shared
website.
A
So
what
we'll
do
first
is
have
the
discussion
amongst
just
like
any
other
committee
meeting
night
have
a
discussion
on
this
particular
topic
amongst
council
members.
We
will
open
it
up
for
three
minute
comments
from
audience
members
if
they
would
like
to
make
comments
on
this
add
to
the
discussion.
Thank
you.
F
A
This
is
the
planning
and
development
you're
right.
Thank
you,
good,
good
and
well.
What
I'd
suggest
is
council
members
can
be
identified
if
you
know
you're
gonna
have
a
question
or
a
comment
that
you
can
come
up
to
the
podium
immediately.
Thank
you
and
I
suggest
you
sit
in
the
front,
so
you'll
have
an
easy
access
to
the
they're
all
sitting.
F
So
I'm
first
on
our
agenda
is
discussing
short-term
rentals.
This
has
been
preceded
by
a
lot
of
discussion
and
talk
because
of
the
concurrent
Planning
Commission
process
that
they're
going
through
right
now
with
the
needed
zoning
for
that
accompanies
the
short-term
rental
licensing.
So
what
I'm
going
to
talk
about
this
evening
is
the
license
that
will
be
required
if
and
when
the
regulations
go
into
effect
for
short
term
rental
short
term
rental
is
defined
as
30
days
or
less
that
you
can
go
and
rent
a
room
out
or
a
abode
for
30
days
or
less.
F
So
it's
not
rental.
It's
not
a
normal
rental
that
people
think
of
when
they
go
and
move
in.
You
know
these
are
more
your
Airbnb
s.
Vacation
rentals
could
be
once
in
a
while
rentals
that
people
do
when
they
just
have
their
house.
That's
all
the
kids
are
gone
and
they
do
something.
So
it
really
runs
the
gamut
right
now.
F
We
did
the
license
instead
of
just
going
through
the
Planning
Commission
through
the
zoning
code,
because
a
license
has
a
lot
of
other
things
that
are
part
of
it
that
doesn't
make
sense
in
a
zoning
code
requirements
for
how
to
pay
taxes,
requirements
for
different
types
of
identification
and
paperwork
to
get
certain
types
of
licenses
bonding
or
insurance
that
are
required,
so
that
this
that
doesn't
make
sense
in
the
zoning
code.
The
license
also
can
be
updated.
A
lot
quicker
to
see,
there's
things
that
are
working
really
well.
F
We
can
expand
it
to
include
the
things
that
we've
seen,
works
well
in
other
communities
or
things
that
people
really
like
in
our
community,
but
can
be
better.
So
that's
why
it's
a
license
so
I
think.
Basically,
the
easiest
thing
to
do
would
be
a
general
description
of
what
the
licences
would
be
so
basically
and
we
can
bring
up
the
the
table
Table.
One.
F
There's
two
different
types
of
licenses:
there's
a
license:
that's
an
A
and
a
license.
That's
the
P
licenses
for
a
are
required
and
all
B
zones
and
our
three
zones
are
one
and
our
to
our
two
zones
need
to
have
B
licenses,
so
each
license
allows
the
different
type
of
home
of
rental.
Different
type
of
rental
in
different
types
of
area,
so
for
exempt.
F
Bed-And-Breakfast
is
only
allowed
in
the
B
zones
and
the
our
three
zones
they're
allowed
to
have
guestroom
limit
of
for
guests
rooms
with
two
adults
max
they
have
the
regulations,
meaning
special
regulations,
thereunder
the
just
general
regulations.
They
don't
have
anything
they're
the
base
that
I
looked
at
because
they're,
the
ones
that
are
already
in
B
zones
or
M,
and
they
have
the
lowest
impact
potential
for
neighborhoods
or
other
businesses.
F
Those
sort
of
thing
there
might
be
a
kitchen
for
the
guests
to
use
the
parking
is
pers
owning
requirement
for
that
zone,
and
it
would
need
an
a
license.
It
could
not
get
a
B
license
because
bees
are
only
for
our
ones
and
our
twos,
so
it
would
not
be
allowed.
Bed-And-Breakfast
are
not
allowed
in
our
ones
or
our
two
areas.
The
next
one
up
is
homestay.
You
can
have
a
homestay
in
any
of
the
zones.
F
So
if
you
live
maybe
on
Court
Street,
maybe
you
have
your
business
in
the
bottom
and
a
couple
extra
rooms
on
the
top.
You
could
run
a
homestay.
You
know
homestay
is
defined
as
when
you
are
in
your
home
and
you
rent
out
a
maximum
of
two
bedrooms
to
guests
to
come
and
stay.
So
that's
very
much
like
a
traditional
bed-and-breakfast
that
you
would
have
in
Europe
a
lot
of
people.
F
Do
this
I
I
stay
and
a
lot
of
how
stays
and
it's
it's
very
popular,
especially
in
college
towns,
where
we
like
to
get
to
know
people
and
are
very.
We
have
lots
of
fun
people
who
come
for
a
lot
of
fun
activities.
So
that's
the
homestay
home
stays
have
a
maximum
of
two
adults
per
room,
maximum
of
there's
no
kitchen
for
guests
parking
as
pers
owning,
and
it
would
need
an
a
permit
or
a
B
permit
in
the
r1
or
r2
zoning.
F
Now,
there's
a
nonprofit
section
here
we
have
been
approached.
Never
just
numerous
times
by
different
nonprofits
I'll
use
the
Habitat
for
Humanity
as
an
example,
because
they
came
to
me
last
year.
They
would
like
to
do
as
they
do
in
other
communities.
Do
a
home
to
homestay,
basically
on
the
big
weekends
that
there
are
dearth
of
places
to
stay
in
Athens.
They
want
to
be
able
to
have
hellos
volunteer,
hosts
open
up
their
room
to
open
up
their
house
two
possibilities
for
parents
to
come
in
and
stay
that
graduation
weekend.
F
The
host
would
pay
the
transient
guests
tax,
the
money
that
the
visitors
spent
would
be
given
to
Habitat
for
Humanity
for
their
fundraiser.
This
particular
one
the
license
for
the
nonprofit.
You
have
to
be
a
501
C,
3
organization.
You
have
to
fulfill
all
the
regulations
for
those
home
stays
that
license.
You
can
have
ten
guest
hosts.
F
You
have
eighty-four
guest
nights,
which
is
one
person
per
night
per
room.
You
know
so
two
people
stay
overnight.
That's
two
guests
nights:
they
have
a
total
of
84
guests
nights
for
the
whole
license,
so
if
they
have
ten
people-
and
they
run
it
out
for
one
weekend
like
the
big
graduation
weekend,
they
wouldn't
really
be
doing
any
other
of
that
type
of
fundraiser
until
the
next
year,
because
they
would
have
gotten
very
close
to
their
84
guest
nights
with
all
10
of
those
rooms.
F
F
The
special
regulations
for
the
tourist
owns
because
they're
the
ones
that
need
to
have
the
most
assurances
about
being
a
good
neighbor,
is
that
the
owner
operator
has
to
have
the
primary
residence
of
the
person
who
is
running
the
tourist
home
within
250
feet,
radius
of
the
house
of
their
tourist
home.
Basically,
your
next
door
or
two
houses
down
from
the
place
that
you're
running
this
is
an
r1
and
r2.
The
parking
would
be
pers
own,
just
like
in
the
homestay.
That's
just
a
typo
there.
F
F
They're,
basically
structured
after
three
general
ideas
being
a
good
neighbor
which
are
regulations
and
expectations
put
forward
for
accountability
between
the
homeowners
operators,
the
guests
and
the
community
around
you
know.
It's
expected
that
people
have
are
good
guests,
some
of
the
ways
that
we
ensure
that,
especially
in
r1
and
r2
areas,
that
they're
good
guests
is
either
they're
living
there
in
the
room
in
the
house
with
the
host
themselves,
as
in
a
homestay
or
they're,
pretty
much
next
door
to
the
person
who's
running
them.
The
tourist
home.
F
So
there's
eyes
on
the
ground
right
there
about
what's
going
on
another
way,
especially
for
tourist
homes.
Have
extra
regulation
is
that
under
the
planning
commission
process,
that's
going
through
Planning
Commission
right
now.
They
would
also
have
to
be
permitted
by
the
BCA
and
so
there's
more
eyes
on
that
particular
home
tourist
home.
Then
even
a
rental
would
have
rentals,
do
not
have
to
go
before
the
BCA
there's
other
ways
of
limiting
impacts
for
neighbors,
and
that
is
all
in
the
different
room
limits
size
of
rooms.
F
Other
regulations
that
they
have
to
follow,
such
as
all
the
housing
code
and
of
those
different
sort
of
accountability
measures
they
would
have
to
have
any
of
the
of
the
different
short-term
rentals
have
to
have
a
first
year.
Inspection
was
the
home
inspection
and
then
once
when
they
do
a
renewal
of
their
license,
they
would
get
a
fire
and
life
inspection.
So
there's
two
different
types
of
inspection
that
all
homestays
Torre's
homes
and
Ben
breakfasts
are
going
to
be
going
under.
F
So
there's
multiple
steps
for
people
to
be
able
to
learn
about
especially
a
tourist
home
because
of
the
BCA
process
going
through
that
planning
process
right
now,
so
I
think,
basically,
that's
pretty
much
it
in
a
nutshell.
Right
I
did
put
together
a
table
with
some
of
the
kind
of
frequently
asked
questions
so
questions.
C
It
seems
to
me
that,
with
your
proposal
for
the
tourist
home
since
you're,
not
limiting
the
number
of
nights
per
year,
that
a
person
would
be
staying
here,
you're,
basically
saying
to
somebody.
If
you
want
to
buy
a
house
within
this
proximity
to
where
you're
living
you
can
turn
it
into
basically
a
hotel
for
that
point
in
time
and.
F
C
It
makes
sense,
but
I
I
really
want
to
emphasize
that,
from
my
perspective,
having
lived
on
Morris
Avenue
and
experienced
the
impact
of
basically
it
unregulated.
You
know
tourist
told
me
once
a
in
some
ways.
It
does
have
an
impact
on
the
neighborhood
and,
if
you're,
if
you
are
going
to
open
this
up,
to
encourage
people
to
invest,
you
know,
if
there's
a
house
next
door,
they
can
invest
it
in
it
and
turn
it
into
a
money-making
scheme.
I
mean
that's
what
we're
doing.
Basically,
it
will
happen
in
on
the
neighborhood
right.
F
F
This
process
would
put
a
lot
more
regulations
on
on
that
sort
of
process,
and
when
you
talk
about
impact
nights
per
like
the
guest
nights,
a
normal
three-person
rental
has
more
than
a
thousand
guests
nights
for
a
year's
rental
and
that's
not
even
including
all
the
parties
and
all
the
people
who
come
and
go
and
and
so
those
sort
of
things
so
having
a
tourist
home.
That's
a
hundred
percent
occupied
for
a
hundred
percent
of
the
time
is
probably
not
going
to
happen
in
Athens.
C
Do
have
a
concern
that
there's
kind
of
a
contrary.
Push
here
well,
on
one
hand,
were
encouraging.
You
know
to
open
up
the
housing
market,
to
families
and
to
low
income
people
and
well
not
low
income
people
to
citizens
and,
on
the
other
hand,
I
think.
What
we're
doing
here
is
to
also
encourage
people
to
maybe
invest
and
use
the
business
aspect
of
it
and
I
I
see
that
as
something
we
need
to
be
aware
of
right.
You
know,
and
at
least
it
causes
me
concern
on
I-
want
to
address
that
yeah.
A
J
To
that
point,
I
think
that
if
there's
someone
who
has
the
the
financial
resources
to
purchase
a
home
that
becomes
available
next
door
to
them
because
they
they
want
a
business
investment
that
that
they
would
do
that
right
now
and
and
make
it
a
regular
rental,
property
and
I
think
the
amount
of
income
that
you
would
bring
in
from
making
it
a
regular
rental
property
is,
is
going
to
greatly
exceed
what
you
would
get
from
making
it
a
tourist
home.
So
I
I
don't
see
that
it's
very
likely.
J
Given
the
costs
of
real
estate
and
the
relatively
low
demand
for
short-term
stays,
I
mean
it's
just
like
we
have
hotels
in
Athens
that
that
are
only
full-on
on
big
weekends.
So
it's
there's,
there's
not
likely
III,
don't
believe
to
be
a
sudden
increase
in
demand
for
for
short-term
rentals,
whether
it's
in
a
hotel
room
or
in
a
tourist
home.
It's.
J
So
if,
if
someone
had
the
financial
resources
to
buy
one
I
like
to
me
it,
it
doesn't
actually
seem
like
it
is
a
financial
investment
that
someone
would
make
to
turn
something
into
a
tourist
home.
It
seems
more
likely
like
to
because
I
just
I,
don't
see
them
being
occupied
very
often
for
for
a
short-term
stays.
I
think
it.
E
Right
now,
the
universityÃs
has
declining
enrollment
and
they're
cutting
back
and
there's
fewer
students
to
go
into
off-campus
housing
and
I'm
driving
around
the
neighborhoods
and
I'm.
Seeing
a
lot
of
for
rent
signs,
I'm
just
wondering
if
the
people
who
now
own
those
homes
that
can't
be
rented
as
as
as
rentals
full-time
might
be
tempted
to
say
well,
I
still
had
to
pay.
The
mortgage
I
still
have
to
pay
the
property
taxes.
Maybe
I'll.
Try
the
Taurus
home
business,
see
how
that
would
work
out
something
to
keep
it
going
until.
F
I
think
something
in
other
communities
and
here
because
from
what
I
hear
from
all
the
people,
who've
been
letting
me
know
their
aspirations
and
discussions
is
that
it
provides,
especially
in
areas
where
housing
is
relatively
expensive.
We
don't
have
rent
control.
So
you
know
looking
at
studies
that
talk
about
rent
control
or
changes
in
those
sort
of
things.
Don't
they
don't
apply
to
Athens
Athens
has
the
unique
experience
of
having
70%
rentals.
F
If
this
provides
like
in
other
areas,
people
who
are
able
to
stay
because
they're,
you
know
seniors
and
now
they're
empty
nesters,
and
it's
really
hard
to
sell
your
house
right
now
on
Morris
Avenue,
there's
like
seven
houses
for
sale
and
if
they
may
turn
it
into
a
rental
and
then
they
leave,
or
maybe
they
rent
out
two
of
their
rooms.
Ten
weekends
a
year
when
all
the
students
are
in
and
be
able
to
make
it
a
go
and
be
able
to
stay
in
that
house.
F
So
I
think
that
there
are
community
benefits
when
it
comes
to
these
sort
of
things,
especially
because
Alphen
is
so
different
than
a
lot
of
the
other
communities
that
have
been
having
issues.
The
other
thing
with
a
lot
of
the
communities
they
had
have
issues
is
that
they
were
playing
keep
up.
You
know
it's
just
like
the
East
scooters.
We
were
out
in
front.
We
have
regulations.
F
So
now
the
people
are,
they
know
what
is
expected
of
them,
and
if
they
don't
follow
the
rule,
then
they
get
you
know
their
hands
left
or
a
fine
or
their
license
taken
so
areas
that
don't
have
the
regulation
or
who
have
weaker
regulation
like
you
can
hum.
You
know
you
can
have
fifteen
homestays
and
for
tourist
homes
anywhere
in
you
know
the
nine
county
area
which
some
regulations
are
like,
then
that's
where
you
get
a
lot
of
problems,
I'm.
B
You
and
I
didn't
want
to
I,
don't
say
this
very
often,
but
that
goes
some
of
the
things
that
remember
McGee
and
so
mostly
because
you
know
I,
think
of
sense
of
community
and
if
you
have
a
lot
of
people
just
coming
and
going
all
the
time
you
know,
if
you
have
a
long
term
rental,
you
have
the
opportunity
to.
You
know
meet
that
person
when
they're
taking
their
trash
out.
B
You
know
every
Tuesday
or
Wednesday
or
whatever
that,
whatever
that
day
is-
and
so
you
know,
I
feel
like
at
least
right
now
when,
when
we're
looking
at
the
the
the
overall,
you
know
home
state
versus
tourist
home
I,
look
at
the
I
look
at
the
city
and
I.
Look
at
the
different
zones
and
and
I
really
I
really
feel
like
protection
of
r1
is
paramount.
B
I
I'm,
just
I'm
a
little
stuck
on
the
idea
of
having
a
tourist
home
in
r1,
especially
when
we
just
got
through
this
whole
conversation
of
affordable
housing
and
now
we're
talking
about
having
the
opportunity
to
maybe
lose
a
few
more
houses.
Because
of
this
new
opportunity
can
we
can
we
protect
specific
zones?
Just
a
little
bit
more
and
maybe
not
go
full.
You
know
full
bore
in
this
in
this
direction.
E
B
Say
I
mean
my
thought
as
I
was
you
know
looking
at
at
this
and
thinking
about
this
over
the
last
you
know
few
weeks,
no
no
tourists
homes
in
are
one
just
across
the
board
across
the
Boris
aboard
and
then
I
feel
like
that
that
that
does
retain
you
know
kind
of
what
people
wanted
when
they,
when
they're
moved
into
an
r1.
You
know
in
our
to
to
is
a
little
bit
different
right
right.
B
G
F
G
F
Well,
there
are
room
sizes
and
room
limits,
so
they
would
have
to
in
order
to
be
what
they're,
an
educational
or,
let's
say,
they're
in
r3.
They
have
room
limits
for
a
bed-and-breakfast
which
is
four,
so
they
could
potentially
chop
it
up
into
a
hundred
different
four
unit,
businesses
that
we
have
to
be
owned
separately
by
people,
but
I
guess
you
could
do
that.
I.
Don't
think
that.
G
F
C
F
J
K
You
I
appreciate
the
spirit
conversation
discussion,
because
the
decisions
we
make
today
will
definitely
impact
our
communities
as
well
as
future
generations
of
Athenians
and
visitors.
Having
said
dad,
I've
thought
about
this
a
bunch
over
the
years
it
had
been
approached
in
the
book
times,
trying
to
wrestle
with
this
and
was
approached
as
well
by
folks
who
were
predominantly
in
favor,
of
moving
forward
towards
short-term
rentals
and
for
lack
of
better
word.
Airbnb
Zaca
had
fewer
people
approach
me
in
opposition.
K
K
It's
a
challenging
conversation
when
I
think
about
my
parents
generation.
Whenever
my
parents
travel
into
communities
they're
looking
for
hotels
to
stay
in,
they
would
never
consider
a
short-term
rental
and
Airbnb.
They
would
never
considered
walking
into
a
string
home.
They
would
prefer
bathrooms
to
be
on
the
same
floor
as
the
bed
that
they're
staying
and
and
that's
my
parents
and
that
and
that's
their
generation
I
think
that
as
times
are
changing
and
people
are
getting
more.
K
Creative
I
can
I
see
definitely
interest
in
self-determination
and
and
folks
wanting
to
stay
somewhere
that
they
determine
that's,
not
a
chain
or
not.
A
hotel
I
do
like
the
idea
of
the
hotel-motel
tax
being
applicable
to
these
as
well.
I.
Think
that's
wise
I
do
think.
There's
other
communities
that
have
been
wrestling
with
this
and
have
been
proactive
and
creating
legislation.
We
need
to
continue
to
look
into
that
and
I
think
come
summer.
Fall
has
been
our
homework
and
trying
to
do
so.
K
I'm
also
mindful
of
a
conversation
I
heard
few
years
back
at
a
funeral
in
which
the
gentleman
speaking
about
his
deceased
brother
was
referencing
the
story
from
years
ago,
growing
up
poor
in
the
post-war
era
and
thinking
about
families
taking
in
extra
renters
to
help
you
know,
pay
the
bills.
You
know
sort
of
similar
to
Victory
Gardens
in
the
front
yard
and
and
doing
what
can
be
to
make
ends
meet
on
a
certain
level.
We
are
experiencing
some
similar
economic
challenges
and
strife.
K
Today,
the
haves
and
have-nots
the
one-percenters
far
outweigh
those
of
us
making
ends
meet
so
like
I
can
see.
Some
practicality
about
this
in
Athens
is
also
wrestled
for
years
and
years
and
years
losing
you
know,
sort
of
a
brain
drain,
whether
it's
our
young
students
graduating
from
the
area
and
attending
university
and/or
our
faculty,
leaving
as
they
retire.
If
there's
a
potential
to
keep
a
few
more
faculty
around,
because
they
can
use
this
as
it
means
to
help
pay
bills.
It
is
an
interesting
conversation.
I
don't
have
all
the
answers.
N
Fine
Paige
I
lost
two
at
the
Athens
County
Visitors
Bureau
I'm,
happy
to
entertain
any
questions
that
you
have,
but
I
think.
It's
really
important
to
note
that
the
most
important
reason
that
we're
taking
up
this
conversation
is
for
the
conversation
that
we
had
just
before
this
about
the
mountain
bike.
Trail.
Ok,
181,000
visitors,
we
project
the
roughly
20%
of
those
are
gonna
stay
overnight.
That's
36,000
people
you're
going
to
be
paying
for
that.
N
So
this
framework
gives
you
a
chance
to
develop
what
you
want
in
your
neighborhoods
and
what
you're
willing
to
accept
in
your
neighborhoods
and
it
allows
you
to
grow.
But
this
is
the
time
to
have
this
conversation
right
now,
because
of
what
could
be
coming
around
the
bend
with
you
and
the
next
two
or
three
or
seven
or
ten
years,
as
other
things
begin
to
grow
here
and
we've
pointed
out.
Yes,
oh,
you
may
be
looking
at
dwindling
enrollment
now,
but
they
they
may
hit
a
boom
again
here
in
the
next
couple
of
years.
N
The
mountain
bike
trail
the
motorcycle
trail,
what
we
offer
an
outdoor
recreation
proximity
to
the
hockey
metals.
These
are
all
things
that
make
it
important
to
sort
of
engage
in
this
conversation
when
we
talk
about
demand
and
we've
had
this
conversation,
especially
with
those
who
have
reached
out
to
our
office,
to
ask
questions
about
this.
This
is
not
necessarily
about
demand,
as
it
looks
right
now,
but
it's
an
important
conversation
to
have
right
now.
In
Athens
we
probably
hovered
around
the
75
percent
occupancy
rate
on
an
annual
basis.
N
I
will
tell
you:
it
takes
a
lot
more
than
twelve
peak
weekend's
out
of
the
year
to
keep
a
hotel
open.
We
do
sell
out
on
a
regular
basis
here,
buy
sell
out,
I
mean
we're,
probably
in
the
eighty
seven
percent
occupancy
range,
where
we
have
the
majority
of
our
properties
selling
out,
not
all
of
them
selling
out
still
a
few
rooms
available
that
happens
quite
often
truly
between
March
and
about
the
1st
of
December
are
really
peaked.
For
us.
N
It's
not
all
the
time
right
now,
but
I
want
to
encourage
you
to
take
up
the
conversation
and
begin
to
talk
about
what
you
want
in
your
neighborhoods
talk
about
density,
talk
about
proximity,
talk
about
how
many
on
the
street
try
not
to
speculate,
try
to
just
anticipate
what
kind
of
business
is
going
to
come.
Your
way.
One
thing
that
we
do
know
is
that
visitors
by
and
large
right
now
they
want
a
diverse
range
of
prices
and
options,
and
that's
the
best
that
we
can
do
for
them.
N
N
I
would
also
encourage
you
to
look
within
the
city
of
Athens
in
those
r1
zones
and
see
what
is
operating
now.
Some
of
them
are
our
single
room.
Rentals
and
some
of
them
are
full
tourist
home.
Rentals
I
would
encourage
you
to
talk
with
the
auditor
who
can
talk
with
you
about
which
properties
are
actually
on
the
TGT
list
right
now,
and
we
do
have
a
handful
of
properties
in
the
city
that
operate
under
these
guidelines
that
we
do
work
very
closely
with
and
we're
very
proud
of
those
properties.
N
Someone
asked
me,
you
know:
well,
a
tourist
home
could
turn
into
a
party
house
wealth
speculation.
I
mean
it
could
turn
into
a
party
house.
I
can't
assure
that
every
person
who
visits
is
gonna,
you
know,
be
mature
and
well
rested,
but
our
hotels
struggle
with
the
same
thing
as
well.
The
important
thing
to
remember
this
is
not
an
easy
business
y'all.
This
is
this
is
this
is
taking
care
of
people
every
day,
and
so,
if
you're
operating
a
tourist
home,
it
is
like
operating
a
full-time
lodging
establishment.
N
So
it
is
hard
work
going
through
the
permitting
process.
It's
not
daunting,
but
it
will
definitely
weed
out
those
who
aren't
willing
to
meet
certain
regulations
to
keep
their
guests
safe
and
keep
the
playing
field
level.
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
I'll
be
honest
with
you.
I've
had
a
number
of
neighbors
who
contacted
us
about
information
on
this
and
it's
interesting
to
hear
their
point
of
view.
N
N
E
N
Do
get
requests
with
people
who
contact
us
or
email
us
who
want
something
that
is
in
close
proximity
to
Uptown
Athens
now,
so
that
walking
distance
is
important.
Now,
with
that
said,
I
had
a
conversation
with
a
local
resident
who
brought
that
up
and
just
because
that's
what
a
consumer
demands
does
not
necessarily
mean
that
that's
what
a
consumer
gets.
You
know
that
to
me,
the
residents
rights
and
what
does
community
sides
that
they
want
to
do
with
this
concept
is
extremely
important
to
our
future
relationships
with
visitors.
N
We
don't
want
to
create
some
adversarial
relationship
between
people
who
visit
here
and
people
who
live
here
and
we're
seeing
that
happen
in
other
places.
Please
read
the
information
about
Asheville
North,
Carolina
granite.
Their
problems
are
millions
of
dollars
bigger
than
ours,
but
the
scale
is
different,
but
the
concept
is
the
same,
and
so
I
would
encourage
you
to.
N
C
100
or
150
houses
are
currently
countywide
in,
from
my
perspective,
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
called
our
attention
to
the
possible
impact
of
the
Bailey's
trail.
I
think
that's
very
important,
but
I
also
think
of
the
national
issue,
which
is
student
debt
and
unless
that's
relieved
in
the
coming
year
or
a
year
after
the
coming
year.
I
think
our
economy
is
kind
of
in
freefall.
C
But
if
it
is
relieved,
I
think
at
some
point
in
time
there
are
gonna,
be
a
lot
more
young
families
looking
for
homes
to
buy,
and
we
might
actually
have
some
neighborhoods
again
where
we
have
neighbors
well
I
mean
my
concern
is
that
we
basically
pull
that
rug
out
from
under
that
happening,
because
we've
turned
all
these
homes
into
businesses
which
are
lucrative
because
families
trail.
So
it's
kind
of
a
conflict
see.
N
Where
you're
going
with
that,
but
it's
a
big
County
out
there
and
there
are
like
I,
said
you
know
you.
If
you
set
your
regulations
here,
then
what
happens
outside
of
the
city
of
Athens
will
will
sort
of
pick
up
that
extra
business
and
we've
seen
it
happen
over
the
course
of
the
last
year
and
we've
grown
a
hundred
properties
just
on
Airbnb
alone
in
the
course
of
the
last
year,
outside
of
the
county
and
a
few
within
or
outside
of
the
city,
but
also
a
few
within
the
city
limits
as
well.
N
So
our
hope
in
all
honesty,
is
that
perhaps
somebody
does
open
up
a
room
or
perhaps
they
buy
and
operate
a
tourist
home
and
they
fall
in
love
with
the
business
and
it
spurs
a
true
commercial
business
in
the
city
that
meets
a
need
for
visitors.
That
then
begins
to
employ
people
that
adds
something
additional
to
the
local
economy.
N
That's
our
greatest
hope
for
what
happens
here,
but
to
me
the
most
important
reason
to
consider
it
is
sort
of
just
being
ready
for
the
wave
of
changing
consumer
needs
and
wants,
and
also
being
ready
for
the
opening
of
the
Bailey
system
and
changes
that,
oh,
you
got
it
courage,
it's
not
necessarily
about
demand
right
now,
but
it's
not
always
gonna.
Be
that
way.
N
A
A
O
O
O
Commerce
is
a
great
thing:
I'm,
not
here,
to
speak
against
Commerce
I'm,
not
here
to
talk
about
pie-in-the-sky
where
we
might
have
a
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
visitors
sometime
in
the
future
I'm
here
to
talk
about
Athens
Ohio
and
the
r-1
zones,
some
of
the
stuff
I'm
about
ready
to
say
I've
said
before
I'm
going
to
say
it
again,
because
I
think
it
needs
to
be
heard.
I've
done
my
best
to
try
to
communicate
properly.
I
know
I'm
a
lot
I'm
not
allowed
to
ask
questions.
O
That's
regular
city
council
meetings,
I
have
reached
out
to
every
city.
Council
person.
I
have
heard
absolutely
not
a
peep
out
of
anybody
on
this
committee.
Setting
up
here
in
front
of
me,
I,
don't
like
being
ignored
and
I,
don't
like
being
abused
and
I,
don't
like
being
taken
advantage
of
I've,
definitely
been
ignored
and
I
don't
like
to
be
taken
advantage
of
and
to
let
these
tourist
homes
come
into
our
one
I
think
it's
absolutely
wrong
and
not
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city,
not
in
the
best
interest
of
the
r-1
zones.
O
O
O
It's
been
mentioned
that
this
is
to
raise
money
for
people
who
need
the
money.
I'm
no
lawyer,
but
I
do
know
that
when
something
goes
in
front
of
the
boarding
zone
of
Appeals
that
they
are
not
allowed
to
consider
money
as
a
hardship,
so
I,
don't
think
I
think
you
need
to
think
about
this.
These
are
just
you
know,
random
thoughts
in
no
particular
order.
O
You
could
have
your
bed
and
breakfast
or
guesthouses,
not
the
tourist
home
in
your
r1
zones
on
the
major
thoroughfares
as
they
pass
through
the
r1
zones,
but
not
infiltrating
down
into
the
neighborhoods
were
the
old
folks
and
the
pets,
and
the
kids
are
I've
even
had
occasion
recently
to
speak
to
David
Cornwell,
and
he
told
me
that
his
hotel
was
on
hold
until
he
sees
how
good
mr.
Frodo's
does
down
there.
So
that
tells
me
he
may
see
some
sort
of
an
impact.
O
Have
you
folks
talked
to
all
the
hotels
out
there?
I
don't
know.
I
haven't
had
a
conversation
with
anybody
because
nobody's
talking
you
folks
should
be
defending
our
existing
property
rights
and
not
attempting
to
give
them
our
for
judgment
or
for
political
gain.
I
know
you
want
to
seem
progressive,
but
taking
existing
property
rights
from
90.
Some
percent
of
the
people
to
give
a
few
to
5%
of
the
people
or
less
is
not
in
the
best
interest
of
our
community.
We
are
not
asking
for
political
favors.
O
We
are
begging
you
not
to
take
from
many
to
give
to
a
few
the
property
rights
that
we
currently
enjoy.
Athens
is
not
your
typical
tourist
town.
People
come
here
to
party
which
is
fine,
but
r1
is
r1
and
most
citizens,
if
they,
if
and
when
they
become
aware
of
what
you're
trying
to
do,
I'm
quite
sure
would
not
agree
with
this
current
effort
on
your
part,
mr.
O
Yourself,
thank
you.
I
know.
You
were
elected
by
a
majority
to
the
people
and
I
always
thought
you
were
here
to
represent
and
defend
a
majority
of
the
people,
not
special
interests.
The
way
the
law
is
written,
11.1,
3.05,
legal
residents,
51%
of
the
time
of
Greater,
completely
unenforceable,
completely
unenforceable.
O
The
code
office
isn't
even
open
on
the
weekends
and
it's
understaffed
then
you're
asking
us
to
start
trusting
the
people
who
are
currently
cheating
the
system
they're
out
there
operating
it's
illegal
they're,
not
paying
their
transit
tax
they're,
probably
not
paying
their
federal
state
or
city
tax.
On
those
monies.
Now
we're
going
to
depend
on
them
to
treat
us
fairly
in
the
future.
I
would
say
that's
questionable.
O
One
hotel
well
I've,
spoke
to
recently
said
what
they're
trying
to
do
is
get
the
people
into
the
hospitality
business.
The
hospitality
business
is
business.
Business
should
be
conducted
in
a
business
zone.
I
believe
this
will
push
down
real-estate
prices
and
desirability
have
we
had
have.
We
had
a
survey
from
all
the
realtors
in
town
to
what
they
think
this
might
do.
I've
also
talked
to
a
local
businessman
recently,
who
is
anticipating,
possibly
building
a
hotel
in
the
future
within
walking
distance,
tough
town?
A
P
F
F
P
They
have
purchased
the
home
in
an
r1,
because
it's
a
family
in
a
residential
area
and
they're,
really
much
more
open
to
having
bed-and-breakfast
that
are
owner-occupied
more
viable,
but
the
tourists
one
because
it
does
operate
as
a
viable
similar
to
a
hotel
business
is
just
one
of
the
things
that
they
feel
if
they
bought
in
an
r1
area,
then
they
want
to
live
in
an
hour
and
not
to
have
businesses
in
that
particular
residential
zone.
Thank
you
thanks.
Thanks
for
your
comments,.
Q
There's
there's
two
Corrections
that
I'd
like
to
make.
The
first
is
that
the
gentleman
who
spoke
before
suggested
that
he
thinks
that
Airbnb
is,
will
bring
housing
prices
down
in
a
residential
neighborhood
and
if
you
are
to
do
a
quick,
Google
search,
Airbnb
housing,
Airbnb,
affordable
housing
article
after
article
after
article
shows
the
same
research,
because
there
are
many
places
in
which
this
reach
research
has
been
done,
says.
Q
The
people
who
experience
the
greatest
positive
impact
from
Airbnb
opening
up
the
our
home
owners
and
the
people
who
experience
the
great
of
greatest
negative
impact
or
renters
and
sitting
on
the
Affordable,
Housing
Commission
and
given
a
lot
of
the
conversation
that's
taking
place
in
this
city
at
large,
were
aware
that
affordable
housing
is
the
forefront
of
the
minds
of
people
in
this
city,
many
of
whom
70
of
somewhere
between
70
and
80%
of
whom
are
renters.
Given
who
you
ask
now?
Q
I
really
do
applaud
the
work
that's
been
put
into
making
this
to
developing
a
plan
that
wouldn't
allow
us
to
open
ourselves
up
to
Airbnb
ease
in
a
way
that
doesn't
impact
rental
units
or
one
that
protects
our
communities,
as
has
been
mentioned
multiple
times.
But
the
other
correction
that
I
mentioned
that
I
wanted
to
make
is
that
it
is
not
more
profitable
to
run
a
long-term
rental.
A
short-term
rental
is
more
profitable
and
there
is
question
about
demand
at
the
present
time.
Q
But
if
you're
able
to
rent
it
out
multiple
times
a
year
that
higher
rent
that
those
short-term
renters
are
paying
adds
up
to
significantly
more
than
what
a
long-term
renter
is
going
to
be
paying,
and
so
the
result,
I
fear
is
that
in
a
small
community,
where
we
already
have
a
shortage
of
affordable
housing
or
for
affordable
rental
units
and
that's
a
concept
right
in
the
minds
of
those
renters.
If
we
see
more
of
those
rental
units
pulled
off
the
market
to
become
short-term
rentals,
those
costs
are
only
going
to
go
up
right
now.
Q
F
Requirement,
well,
it's
a
suggestion,
recommendations.
Thank
you
about
changing
the
north
part
of
court
Street
into
a
B
to
D,
so
as
opposed
to
what
it
is
right
now
III.
Thank
you.
Most
of
the
changes
between
P
to
B
to
D
versus
b3
have
to
do
with
where
the
parking
is
located
and
what
type
of
parking
is
required,
and
also
the
number
of
feet
and
stories
that
a
building
and
how
those
are
the
two
major
thing.
It's.
F
What
will
happen
if
this
does
indeed
pass
is
that
the
parking
garage
as
it
is
now
for
part
of
the
court
Street
B
to
D
part
of
the
court
Street
continues
the
parking
garage
as
their
requirement
for
their
business
for
off
street
parking,
and
that
would
extend
it
up
to
carpenter
street.
So
that's
pretty
much
the
differences.
So
would
you
like
to
add
anything
I.
D
D
It
gives
you
some
relief
and
then
the
within
certain
areas
of
the
city
to
be
able
to
keep
your
park
car
parked
on
the
street
for
72
hours.
I
would
also
draw
council's
attention
in
your
your
the
documents.
You've
got
on
your
Google
Drive
to
the
area
that
is
was
recommended
by
the
Planning
Commission
for
the
the.
What
is
currently
be
3
and
being
rezone
recommendation
to
be
2d
and
I'll.
Give
you
a
little
background
on
that
as
well,
so
this
did
go
through
the
Planning
Commission,
the
Planning
Commission
voted
for
in
your
notes.
D
You
had
it
reads
as
four
with
one
abstention.
That
was
was
actually
an
interesting
vote
that
I've
never
heard
of
before.
It
was
a
vote
of
imbalance
and
I
asked
at
least
once
to
say
you
can
do
that,
but
anyway.
So
that
was
the
vote
to
move
this
forward
and
the
the
rezoning
again
so
I'll
give
you
the
Cliff
Notes
version
of
the
difference
between
a
B
three
and
a
B
2
d
zone
is
as
council
member
fall
just
mentioned.
Is
that
it?
It
removes
the
parking
requirement
for
the
retail.
D
It's
a
document
to
City
Council
from
the
out
in
the
City
Planning
Commission,
with
the
recommendation
dated
October
10th
2019,
and
what
I
would
like
to
point
out
is
a
couple
items
in
here.
There's
some
bullets.
This
recommendation
is
consistent
with
silver,
several
sitting
planning
city
planning
documents,
including
the
following:
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
phase
two
uptown
Athens
plan
found
on
page
two
45
as
it
relates
to
encouraging
pedestrian
centered
development.
D
D
2018
uptown
Athens
active
transportation
plan
which
states
the
current
division
between
B
to
D
and
B
3.
Zoning
has
created
a
disconnect
in
land
uses,
whereas
a
suburban
standard,
which
is
what
a
B
3
zone,
is
by
the
way
it's
a
suburban
plan.
It
encourages
it
puts
car
transportation
first
walking
biking,
sorry.
I
D
Suburban
standards
are
applied
within
a
district
that
already
functions
as
a
traditional
downtown
district
down
uptown
area.
If
you
think
about
it,
council,
from
from
really
from
Baker
Center
on
Court
Street,
all
the
way
up
to
carpenter,
it
currently
acts
as
a
urban
downtown
area.
It
is
an
urban
downtown
area.
You
want
that
area
to
be
strong
and
active
transportation
with
pedestrians,
bicycles
like
them
or
not.
We
don't
have
them
yet.
These
scooters
and
cars
are
far
down
on
that
list
for
an
urban
downtown
area,
it's
not
the
primary
mode.
D
We
also
have
a
very
active
transportation
system,
transit
system
with
Athens
public
transit,
which
we
talked
about
earlier
tonight.
So,
if
you
think
of
all
of
the
area
that
that
is
highlighted
on
your
map
here,
that's
in
your
deck.
You
know
this
is
really
just
providing
space.
That's
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
It's
consistent
with
our
active
transportation
efforts.
It's
consistent
with
the
with
the
Athens
sustainability
action
plan.
That's
in
there
too.
That
plan
speaks
to
development,
our
development
building
and
zoning
standards
that
focus
on
bicycle
and
pedestrian
orientation
rather
than
automobile
orientation.
D
And
if
you
think
about
this,
that
is
one
ways
in
which
we
can
be
our
be
responsible
stewards
of
our
planet
from
a
carbon
emission
standpoint
where
we're
getting
fewer
cars
on
Court
Street,
we'll
be
able
to
come
up
as
opposed
to
people
writing
or
bike
walking,
but
shins.
Whatever
that's
a
good
thing.
I.
F
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
Planning
Commission
discussion
and
I
think
this
is
when
you
think
about
bad
inner
city.
You
know
the
inner
city
courts
that
are
so
sad.
They
were
hollowed
out
being
made
into
parking
lots,
and
so
you,
you
don't
get
that
nighttime
urbanization,
you
don't
they're,
they
don't
feel
safe.
Somebody
called
them
and
they're
like
missing
teeth
and
you
don't
feel
safe,
walking
by
big
parking
lots
and
we
do
have
those
along
on
Court
Street.
F
You
know
where
corn
wells
and
those
sort
of
things
are,
and
so
I
think
that
anything
we
can
do
to
put
cars
way
down
here
as
a
good
thing,
I
think
it's
better
land-use
planning
there
and
it
will
I
think
help
to
make
much
more
of
a
cohesive
Uptown
area.
So
many
people
are
kind
of
like
walk
up
to
where
the
gas
station
is
and
they
go.
Oh
well,
we're
done
and
then
they
turn
around
and
that
shouldn't
be.
It
should
be
the
whole
street.
So.
C
To
thank
the
mayor
for
the
explanation,
because
I
I
think
it
wasn't
very
good
explanation
and
it
cleared
up
some
things
for
me.
I
would
only
suggest
that,
as
we're
saving
the
planet
through
our
carbon
footprint
that
we
perhaps
includes
more
bike,
racks
or
City
Council
members
who
actually
do
ride
their
bikes
to
city
meetings,
so
I
would
appreciate
that.
A
G
Thank
you,
I'm
100%,
behind
the
reasons
for
when
it
comes
to,
but
alternative
transportation
and
parking.
But
thanks
to
the
clerk
we
have
the
whole
history
of
this
issue
and
what's
not
been
discussed
here,
is
that
in
the
past
the
issue
has
been
that
that
zone
was
something
of
a
buffer
between
what
we
call
Uptown
and
the
near
Northside
neighborhood.
G
D
Repeat
but
I
said
earlier,
with
the
intent
for
a
B
to
D
versus
a
b3
in
that
to
encourage
active
transportation
and
ways
in
which
people
are
going
to
come
into
it.
You
don't
need
a
buffer
anymore
between
there
and
say
the
north
here,
North
Hill
neighborhoods,
because
now
you're
encouraging
some
economic
development
on
the
ground
floor.
You
know
first
floor
level
that
people
would
likely,
with
greater
frequency,
use
the
steps
that
come
down
from
fort
and
walk
into
the
Uptown
area,
because
they
could
be
you
know,
shopping
along
whatever
those
storefronts
would
become
correct.
G
D
I
D
The
8:00
to
5:00
p.m.
when
most
of
our
businesses
on
a
court
Street
are
open,
save
the
restaurants
and
the
bars
you
know.
Are
they
truly
noisy,
but
if
they
were
again,
we
have
a
nuisance
party
ordinance
where,
if
there
is
excessive
noise
they
you
know,
complaints
can
be
lodged
against
those.
You
know,
I
will
also
go.
G
D
Let
me
let
me
share
with
you
again
in
encouraging
more
pedestrian
and
bicycling
traffic
there's
a
way
in
which
we
can
certainly
reduce
reduced
noise.
You
know
something
that
we
failed
to
think
about,
and
that
is
the
din
of
traffic
flowing
anywhere
in
the
city.
But
you
know
if
we
can
somehow
create
an
environment
to
where
it
is
putting
active
transportation
first,
and
we
have
more
people
walking
from
North
Hill
down
to
stores
and
whatnot.
Wouldn't
that
reduce
noise,
I
think.
G
So
having
grown
up
on
the
North
Hill
and
then
those
who
live
on
that
side
of
town
know
that
pretty
much
from
the
demolition
derby
to
the
oh,
you
ban
to
pretty
much
anything
going
on.
You
hear
it
up
on
those
hills
so
for
the
people
that
live
there,
any
kind
of
noise
I
agree,
you
might
reduce
traffic
noise,
but
it
tends
not
to
be
well.
We
hear
cars,
it's
tends
to
be
activities
that
go
up
the
hill,
so
I'm
just
I.
D
The
things
that
this
change
would
not
do
in
terms
of
noise
is
it's
not
going
to
stop
the
sound
from
the
demolition
derby
no
or
the
sound
from
yes
from
the
marching
110
that
is
playing
over
a
PTIN
stadium.
I,
understand
your
concern
and
I
again
would
contend
that
this
is
not
going
to
increase
excessive
noise
because
of
a
zoning
change.
D
D
Did
and
some
of
that
was
pre
noise
ordinance
in
terms
of
the
the
noise
ordinance
as
it
didn't
exist,
and
then
has
it
kind
of
came
into
existence
that
you
know
there's
ways
in
which
the
noise
can
be
mitigated.
You
know,
via
that
ordinance
and
again
the
other
issue
was
the
storage
parking,
and
you
know
I
know
that
our
parking
enforcement
gets
out
and
regularly
is
looking
again.
D
It's
not
perfect
is
there's
still
a
car
here
and
there
that's,
the
you
know,
maybe
they're
longer
than
it
should
be,
but
again
I
think
we've
made
great
strides
when
it
comes
to
storage
parking
with
what
used
to
be
cars
sitting
in
neighborhoods
for
weeks
months
semesters.
What
quarters
I
guess
back
in
the
day,
but
again
that
has
been
largely
rectified
and
again
I.
Don't
think
that
with
this
zoning
change,
we're
on
the
north
block
the
businesses
that
are
there,
you
know
that
you're
gonna
start
to
see
cars
being
storage
parked
in
other
places.
D
F
Like
to
just
point
out
also
with
buffer
that
there's
many
different
types
of
tools
that
we
can
use
in
buffering
and
then
it's
not
just
parking
the
that
helps
to
buffer
neighborhoods.
Its
type
of
you
know
that
would
be
a
different
vehicle
than
just
the
zoning
code.
There
are
other
ways
that
we
can
deal
with
off-site
noise
and
impacts.
F
You
know,
design
design
is
really
good
in
certain
communities.
When
you
have
to
have
certain
types
of
outdoor
activities,
you
have
to
have
some
kind
of
noise,
deadening
devices
or
awnings
or
those
sort
of
things,
so
there's
a
lot
of
other
opportunities
to
look
at
impacts,
because
it's
not
only
buffering
there,
but
it's
buffering
from
Stimpson,
which
is
going
to
be
increasing
in
businesses.
It's
going
to
be
those
other
different
types
of
buffering
situations.
B
Great
thank
you.
I
wanted
to
say
first
off
I'm
a
huge
fan
of
demolition
derby.
It's
mostly
because
in
my
you
know
my
day,
job
there's,
there's
a
battle
cry.
That's
that's
been
said
for
years,
which
is
one
less
car
and
that's
probably
about
the
only
place
that
result
but
changing
parking
requirements,
which
I
think
is
really
what
we're
talking
about
here
when,
when
I
think
it's
parking
requirements
need
to
be
reviewed
and
they
need
to
be
looked
at
and
they
need
to
be
addressed
when
we
have
on
the
books.
B
The
idea
that
a
bedroom
can
be
smaller
than
a
parking
space.
That
makes
me
wonder
how
much
we
value
the
person
versus
the
vehicle,
so
those
are
kind
of
things
that
I
think
about.
So
it's
in
you
know.
Member
Crowell
and
I
could
probably
get
up
here
together
and
we
could
reminisce
about
when
we
were
kids
and
all
the
things
that
used
to
be
up
on
Court
Street,
and
we
could
have
a
long
conversation
about
why
those
aren't
necessarily
going
to
come
back.
B
But
what
can
we
do
to
encourage
the
next,
the
next
phase
of
business-
and
you
know,
I,
think
that
this
it
isn't
the
just
like
everything?
It's
not
them.
It's
not
the
magic
bullet,
but
it
is
it's
a
step
in
the
right
direction,
and
so
I
also
think
about
you
know
I
think
about
our
bus
system,
because
not
everybody
is
going
to
say
well
I'm
up
to
dumb,
not
a
pedestrian
I'm,
not
a
cyclist
I'm.
F
Last
agenda
item
is
I
was
I
was
approached
by
some
of
community
members,
and
Steve
has
been
thinking
along.
The
same
line
is
that
to
join
with
thousands
of
other
communities
across
the
nation
to
identify
this
particular
day.
That's
that's
routinely
known
as
Columbus
Day
as
a
to
read
to
re-identify
as
indigenous
peoples
day
to
identify
and
the
fact
that
we
are
visitors,
long-term
visitors
and
what
was
their
home.
When
we
first
came,
we
haven't
been
very
good
visitors
in
a
lot
of
ways.
F
I
think
that
identifying
and
knowing
that
we've
had
ancestors
in
the
land
I
think
is
really
important,
especially
for
us.
We
have
so
much
around
us
that
people
talk
about
mound,
mound
Street,
you
know
the
plains.
Has
their
mountain
festival.
You
know
the
ancient
earthworks.
You
know
points
to
a
society
and
community
that
was
really
rich
and
amazingly
diverse
and
its
identification
that
that
we
owe
a
huge
amount
of
our
fundamental
truth
and
community
spirit,
a
lot
of
ways
to
what
we've
seen
in
indigenous
worlds.
So
do
you
like
to
say
anything?
F
There
is
a
weirdness
about
being
able
just
to
change.
Of
course,
with
the
city
being
a
statutory
City,
we
can't
do
something
unless
the
Columbus
specifically
says
that
we
can
do
it.
So
we
will
have
to
identify
this
day,
particularly
every
year,
so
that
we
can
put
it
in
our
various
Caroline
and
those
sort
of
things
that
that's
what
I
was
led
to
believe
by
then
Law
Director
Steve.
D
F
C
E
I'm
sorry
I'm,
a
amateur
historian,
I,
read
it
a
lot
of
deep
history
and
I
go
to
original
sources
and
I
understand
the
bad
press.
That
Columbus
is
getting
and
laudable
is
deserved,
but
a
lot
of
the
information
that
comes
out
about
his
role
as
governor-general
of
Hispaniola
was
published
mainly
by
the
people
who
were
really
out
to
get
his
position.
I
mean,
let's
face
it.
The
Spaniards
really
didn't
care
about
the
indigenous
people
any
more
than
anybody
else.
So
the
fact
they
were
saying
that
he
was
nasty,
I'm
thinking
was
kind
of
like
Cortes.
F
J
J
A
federal
holiday,
but
the
the
city
floats
it
so
in
terms
of
intention
for
for
identification
or
recognition.
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
whether
it
would
it
would
change
to
become
a
city
holiday
for
city
workers
if
that
is
taken
on
this
day
or
so
it's
just
a
question
that
came
to
my
mind
as
far
as,
if
we're
talking
about
this
particular
day,
but.
B
I
B
The
hits
just
keep
coming.
Thank
you
everybody
for
for
hanging
in
there.
So
yes,
Transportation
Committee.
Tonight
we
have
three
three
bullet
points
to
to
speak
about
towing
regulations.
We
have
a
no
dot
LPA
agreement
and
also
the
also
an
update
and
from
the
Richland
bridge.
Overcoats
runs
overcoats
rung,
so
towing
regulations
just
a
little
bit
of
history.
A
little
bit
of
background.
B
B
I
could
not
know
it
you're
retired
now,
so
you
probably
don't
get
as
much
information,
but
the
the
bottom
line
is
at
this
point
since
it
it,
and
also
that
a
Student
Senate
has
has
brought
forth
a
resolution,
suggesting
that
that
the
city
raises
the
rate
to
$75
this.
This.
This
prompted
me
to
have
a
few
more
conversations.
I
spoke
with
a
national,
a
statewide
towing
organization
and
had
some
conversations
with
them
also
with
one
of
our
local
local,
auto
repair
places.
I
was
getting.
B
My
car
worked
on
and
started
quizzing
them,
while
I
was
waiting
for
that
to
happen
because
they
owned
a
couple,
a
couple
wreckers
and
do
do
towing
and
recovering
services,
and
so
after
having
these
these
conversations
I'm
comfortable,
bringing
that
that
the
up
in
line
with
what
the
state
code
is
has
it
listed
at
at
a
hundred
and
twenty
nine
dollars,
and
that
is
for
four
vehicles
under
a
gross
weight
of
ten
thousand
pounds.
Now.
B
This
would
just
be
for
if
it
was,
if,
if
a
vehicle
say
it
was
parked
for
too
long
somewhere,
it's
not
it's
not
the
rate
that
you
would
necessarily
get.
If
say,
you
were
in
an
accident
or
something
like
that.
The
recovery
for
something
like
that
is
more
involved
because
they
actually
might
have
to
drag
the
the
vehicle
out
of
a
ditch.
You
know
out
of
a
lake
or
something
like
that,
so
the
the
fees
do
not
do
not
apply
to
that.
This
is
only
if
you
were
seeing
a
lot.
B
That
was
a
private
lot
that
was
posted.
This
said
this
would
allow
allow
the
the
operator
to
to
charge
that
amount
or,
if,
if
the
police
needed
to
have
a
vehicle
moved
off
of
a
street,
that
this
is
also
where
that
same
same
pay,
the
same
same
level
would
come
into
into
play.
Now
some
of
the
information
that
I
was
able
to
to
get
talking
with
the
towing
Association.
B
Basically,
they
they
have
very
high
workers
comp
rates
because
none
the
the
average
the
average
loss
of
of
a
person
working
in
this
industry
is
one
in
four
nationally
one
one.
Every
six
days,
so
their
workmen's
comp
is,
is
extremely
high.
Their
insurance
rates,
one
one
towing
operator
in
Columbus
who
had
26
vehicles.
They
were
1.7
million
dollars
per
year
and
insurance,
one
of
our
local
agents,
one
of
our
local
businesses
over
seventeen
thousand
dollars
per
year
in
just
insurance
rates,
and
that's
so
that
does
not
include
workman's
comp.
B
The
other
thing,
too,
is
the
the
price
of
the
the
vehicles
themselves.
When
you
look
at
a
like
a
base,
tow
truck,
you
know
something
that
has
has
the
hook
on
the
back
you're,
looking
at
it
at
80
to
$100,000
investment.
If
you
go
to
a
flatbed
for
for
moving
vehicles
that
are
four-wheel
or
all-wheel
drive,
you're
starting
at
120
to
200
thousand
dollars,
so
you
know
the
investment
in
a
in
a
in
a
vehicle
that
immediately
just
appreciates
you
know
fairly
rapidly.
B
B
B
This
issue
that
that
keeps
that
keeps
popping
up
the
other
thing
I
would
want
to
also
mention,
is
that
I
did
receive
an
email
from
Tom
Pyle
today,
who's
also
in
agreeance.
That
I
can't
remember
if
it
was
repeal
what
we
currently
have
or
just
changed,
but
but
regardless
he
was
in
agreeance
that
that
we
needed
to
change
this
and
equalize
it
with
what
what's
at
the
state
level.
I
G
C
C
C
There
are
different
viewpoints
on
that,
certainly
if,
if
I
might
add
my
two
cents
to
it,
I
I
I
really
think
129
is
far
too
much
I'm
an
attorney
I
make
in
a
court
system
I
make
seventy
five
dollars
an
hour
on
an
appointed
case
that
pays
for
secretary.
Usually
it
is
for
all
the
office
it
pays
for
the
legal
education.
It
pays
for
them.
The
machines
that
pays
for
lots
of
things
so
I
mean
no,
although
I
might
be
sympathetic
to
somebody
who
has
to
pay
out
a
$125,000
for
a
tow
truck.
C
That
person
is
getting
a
lot
of
tax,
write-offs
too
so
I'm
concerned
with
the
fact
that
it's
a
heavy
charge,
it's
a
heavy
bite
to
a
consumer
or
or
to
a
citizen
whose
cars
being
towed.
That's
one
thing
that
I'm
very
concerned
was
we.
We
sometimes
forget
the
fact
that
not
only
do
we
have
a
high
number
of
rentals
in
Athens,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
low-income
people
in
Athens,
especially
students
who
are
working
at
minimum
wage
in
places
and
another
thing
that
really
concerns
me
is
the
fact.
C
So
so,
from
my
perspective,
although
I
am
I'm,
applauded
Pete
for
your
doing
your
research
and
talking
to
the
tell
operator
who
said
and
I
understand,
where
they're
coming
from
again
I
would
think
how
much
more
reasonable
fee
under
these
circumstances
would
be
a
$75
feat
and
I.
Think
Student
Senate
has
expressed
that
concern
as
well
and
I
applaud
them
for
having
done
so.
Okay.
G
Yeah
I
would
just
add
to
that,
and
you
know
we
are
a
small
community.
We
do
have
a
high
percentage
of
low
wage
or
or
no
wage
residents
and
the
distances
also
that
that
the
local
businesses
have
to
travel
in
order
to
do
that
to
or
less
than
a
larger
city
I
would
imagine
and
if
we're
the
same
rate
as
Columbus
and
Cleveland
and
Cincinnati
I'm,
not
sure
that
makes
sense
to
me.
B
And
you
know
you
know:
I
will
say
there.
You
know
this
is
there's
an
easy
way
to
avoid
ever
getting
charged
this
and
it's
kind
of
don't
park
your
vehicle
where
you're
not
not
supposed
to,
but
the
other
thing
too,
is:
if
we,
if
we
make
the,
if
we
make
the
charge
more
attainable
more
affordable,
are
we
gonna
have
to
call
the
tow
companies?
More
often
I
mean
that's,
that's
you
know,
I
mean
at
some
point.
Should
it
just
be?
You
know
people
know
wow.
This
is
this.
Is
gonna
cost
me
X
amount
if.
C
I
could
toss
one
other
thing
in
you.
Imagine
that
one
of
the
towing
companies
is
the
kind
of
goes
around
and
seashore
cars
parked
in
the
wrong
place
and
toss
it
off
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
times
that
has
been
abused.
There's
numerous
parking
spaces
left
and
they're
searching
like
a
shark
for
that.
C
One
quick
tell
when
nobody's
hurt
by
the
fact
that
somebody
has
parked
in
a
space
for
a
minute
to
drop
something
off
or
something
so
I
mean
there
are
two
sides
to
this:
yeah
that
the
fact
that
we
only
have
one
company
doing
that
I
was
I
would
almost
say
we
have
one
company
too
many
doing
that
in
under
some
circumstances.
Perhaps
you
know
at
the
various
times,
I
applaud
it
when
the
business
will
call
the
tow
company,
because
somebody's
being
actually
hampered
by
an
illegal
parking.
C
B
And
just
just
for
clarification
that
the
the
tow
operators
are
patrolling
private
property
Lots,
you
know
that
are
signed
by
that.
You
know
are
sign
that
they
are
being
controlled
by
those.
So
that's
it!
It's
not
like
they're
just
out
there
just
looking
to
hook
onto
things
wherever
they
can.
It's
it's
it's.
The
ground
rules
are
set
out
there
for
that,
and
even
if
you
park
there
for
a
minute
just
to
run
in
and
do
something
that
is
you're
rolling
the
dice.
You
know
whether
it's
75
or
129
yeah.
E
B
B
D
C
E
No
parking
in
front
of
the
business,
you
know
say
a
local,
bookstore
and
son
was
parked
in
the
delivery
zone
and
semi
can't
get
in.
They
called
the
tow
truck
to
take
the
person
out
so
that
person
is
the
car
is
towed
away
and
we
raised
it
up
to
129
all
that
goes
to
the
to
the
vendor,
the
the
tow
truck
operator,
but
the
city
drives
no,
no
revenue
from
that.
There's!
No,
no
fine.
C
If
it's
parked
in
a
designated
spot,
such
as
where
the
city
has
actually
enacted
an
ordinance
saying
that
you
can't
park
here,
the
city
has
then
the
city
would,
as
the
mayor
indicated,
have
the
right
to
impose
a
ticket
and
which
is
gonna
fine,
but
that's
an
addition
to
the
one
in
addition
to
the
private
property.
Now
all.
B
C
B
S
Beth
Clodfelter
35,
South
Shannon
Avenue
I've
been
going
door-to-door
a
lot.
It
Athens
as
I'm
running
for
City
Council
and
a
whole
lot
of
people
have
been
complaining
about
the
raise
in
property
taxes
and
about
the
parking
meters
and
all
these
fees
that
are
going
up.
The
sewer
rates,
the
recycling
rates,
the
composting
rate,
everything
and
I
think
if
we
do
another
big
increase
from
$50
to
$129.
That
is
not
going
to
go
over
well
with
the
public.
S
B
B
B
S
Still
get
towed
good
people,
our
neighbors,
get
towed,
plus
tourists
get
towed
a
lot
when
they
come
in
for
big
weekends,
and
it
sounds
like
in
some
ways
we're
trying
to
make
this
a
very
tourist
friendly
community
for
the
Bailey's
trail
and
and
with
the
Airbnb
ease.
So
I
think
that
it
would
be
best
if
we
try
to
to
to
keep
the
feeds
a
little
bit
lower
than
that
and
I
think
$75
sounds
good.
R
R
Like
I
said,
I
wanted
to
clarify
a
few
points,
there's
a
lot
of
talk.
How
there's
only
one
tone
company
that's
patrolling
for
people
to
tow
and
in
a
lot
of
states
it's
actually
considered
a
predatory
towing
and
our
laws
against
that
something.
That's
anything.
We
should
really
be
encouraging.
As
a
city
like
to
me,
that's
a
kind
of
sketchy
to
say
the
least.
I
also
want
to
say
we're.
R
Student
Senate
got
a
number
of
$75
from
that
is
the
$50
tongue,
free
from
2002
adjusted
for
inflation,
so
like
over
20
years
at
$50,
a
it's,
not
$75
and
there's
some
talk
about
like
the
cost
of
a
employee
compensation
like
for
injuries
and
all
that,
but
I,
don't
really
see
it.
Professionals
haven't
gotten
more
dangerous
in
the
last
20
years,
so
I
wonder
like.
Why
are
we
bringing
that
up?
That's
like
a
comparative
expense,
because
that
really
hasn't
gone
up
like
so.
If
they
could
have,
they
could
have
survived.
R
I'll
have
50
dollars,
you
2002,
they
could
survive
off
of
$75.
Now,
like
I,
don't
see
it
being
a
major
issue
and
I
think
a
lot
of
vehicon
vers,
a
ssin,
that's
been
about
like
what's
good
for
the
businesses
and
I.
Think
Ohio
and
I
really
think
what's
more
important,
what's
good
for
the
residents
because,
like
ultimately
like
as
a
city,
relatives
weird
where
you
are
not
here
to
advocate
for
businesses
that
you're
here
to
advocate
for
the
residents
of
Athens,
that's
all
I
really
wanted
to
say.
Thank
you.
B
And
can
I
say
one
last
thing
being
a
business
owner,
the
only
business
owner.
That's
on
this
Dyess
I
do
have
to
speak
for
businesses,
because
businesses
have
employees
that
pay
taxes
to
the
city.
So
it's
you
always
have
to
always
have
to
listen
to
two
businesses
at
least
I
do
because
I
understand
that
every
good
business
within
the
city
of
Athens
is
two
to
three
months.
B
A
R
You
know
I
definitely
am
very
supportive.
Local
business
I
believe
it
is
a
very
necessary
part
of
any
community,
but
businesses
operate
like
the
expense
of
the
residents
of
the
area.
I,
don't
think
those
are
the
ones
we
should
be
protecting.
We
should
be
protecting
the
ones
that
actually
build
community
and
support
the
residents
of
the
area
and
atone
company
acting
in
a
predatory
fashion.
That
is
not
something
I
personally
hold
any
value
to.
R
B
Okay,
well,
we
really
we
really
stacked
this.
This
meeting
up.
Didn't
we
moving
on
ODOT
LPA
agreement.
We
have
a
bridge
deck
repair
that
ODOT
would
like
to
do
in
March
of
2020
this.
This
is
of
course,
once
again
one
of
those
standard
agreements
where
ODOT
is
coming
in
and
doing
100%
of
the
work
and
cost
the
bridge
itself
is
the
it's
on
State
Route
56
just
past.
Is
it
still
car
drive
I
believe
it
still
is
where
it
just
passed,
the
UPS
building
you're
just
Kenny.
K
D
Fact,
checking
for
you,
councilmember,
Butler
I,
believe
that
there
is
some,
but
let
me
go
back
and
look
at
the
plan
for
that.
This
is
the
this
is
the
bridge
that
goes
over
the
CSX
railroad
or
the
railroad
whatever
it
is.
That
goes
along
margaret
creek
in
that
area,
and
it
is
Kenny
Drive
I'm
with
you,
I
was
thinking,
occurred
right
yeah.
Thank.
K
B
Okay,
all
right
yep
and
then
okay,
the
last
one
tonight.
This
is
just
a
final
visit
to
the
Richland
bridge
over
Coates
run.
So
the
project
that
happened
this
this
summer
on
Richland
Avenue,
just
just
by
the
Ohio
University
end
we're
asking
to
amend
ordinance,
0
118
that
we
need
to
authorize
an
additional
expenditure
of
ninety
four
thousand
dollars.
Basically,
the
project
ran
into
three
three
flood
events,
which
through
threw
back
the
construction
a
little
bit.
The
other
thing
was
additional
lighting
that
they
had
to
put
in.
B
So
basically,
there
was
a
punch
list
of
of
things
that
ended
up
having
to
get
on
here
and
each
one
of
them
is.
You
know,
I
see
six
eight
thousand
dollars
I'll
share.
This
I'll
share
this
document
with
Council.
We
were
able
to
to
claw
back
a
little
bit
for
contractor
error.
That
was
ten
thousand
dollars
and
then
there
was
liquidated
damages
because
it
wasn't
done
on
time,
but
you
know
like
another.
B
Another
point
was
we
had
to
keep
an
inspector
on
on
the
site,
I
think
for
for
an
additional
two
weeks,
and
so
bottom
line
is
the
the
project
that
happened
on
Richland
Avenue
this
summer
is
ninety
four
thousand
dollars
more
than
what
was
anticipated
there
is.
There
is
funding,
I,
believe
it's
in
five,
seven
two,
and
so
that
is
where
they're
asking
to
have
that
appropriation
come
from
to
to
handle
these
expenditures.
B
B
E
H
E
Do
you
have
anything
all
right,
firetruck
purchase,
believe
we've
been
talking
about
a
new
pumper
truck
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
around
$700,000,
yes,
and
the
fire
chief
has
expressed
this
art
he'd
like
to
get
this
thing
moving
because
it
takes
10.
If
we
ordered
it
today,
it
couldn't
be
delivered
for
almost
a
year,
so
we
got
to
get
things
moving.
If
it's
going
to
come
any
time
between
now
and
2021,
correct.
D
Chief
Raymer
has
identified
the
type
of
truck
and
the
all
the
accessories
to
that
truck,
and
it
does
take
about
10
months
to
almost
a
year,
because
these
aren't
something
that
you
just
pull
off
a
lot
somewhere.
A
lot
of
these
are
custom
made.
I
would
like
to
mention
the
council
after
safety
meeting
this
morning,
chief
rhymer
indicated
to
me
that
once
again,
pumper
1002
is
having
issues
and
we
have
to
send
it
up
to
Columbus
and
that's
what
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
we're
starting
to
see
with
some
of
our
aging
pumper
trucks.
K
This
I'm
reminded
of
a
conversation
I
had
years
ago
with
chief
Troxel,
in
which
he
was
asked
by
the
then
mayor,
I,
don't
my
first
mayor
Abel
or
his
predecessor,
but,
and
that
was
to
begin
to
formulate
a
plan
one
to
replace
trucks
so
that
we
can
budget
for
them
and
we
could
have
a
plan
we
could
be
prepared,
and
my
understandings
of
time
was
to
propose.
Plan
was
20
year.
Rotations
and
our
trucks
see
a
lot
more.
K
K
B
D
D
H
B
H
Add
to
that
that
we
are
still
paying
off
at
another
Comfort
truck,
but
we
did
since
I've
been
uptown,
purchased
a
lot
of
truck
and
pay
it
off,
which
was
with
1.1
million,
and
we
are
paying
down
on
this
other
pumper
truck
we're
about
to
pay
that
council
that
ordinance
just
went
through
and
Friday
we're
gonna
pay
down
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
that.
We
have
the
help
them
go.
You
$50,000
a
year
to
help
pay
for
those,
so
we'll
be
down
to
two
hundred
and
twenty
three
thousand
dollars
on
the
other.
H
H
I
O
D
D
E
D
Protect
and
serve
if
I
may.
This
is
related
to
the
fire
department,
but
I.
You
know
it's
important,
that
all
of
our
employees
have
good
operational
equipment
and
to
retire,
something
that
is
aged
I
think
is
the
most
responsible
thing
to
do
to
protect
our
employees
and
have
provide
for
them
good
equipment.
Much
like
the
co2
exhaust
system.
That
was
just
just
installed
recently
at
headquarters,
much
like
down
at
Station
two.
E
H
They
are
consistent,
there's
been
a
lot
of
changes
and
this
is
another
one.
Regarding
SERPs,
which
are
the
special
executive
retirement
plans
and
just
to
let
you
know,
I
know,
Tina
has
been
anting.
The
timber
man
has
been
in
contact
with
Debbie
and
Tina.
Has
her
wording
written
out
now
and
she
will
be
contacting
Debbie
for
to
put
the
wording
into
an
ordinance.
I
told
her.
She
had
till
noon
on
Wednesday
to
have
something
probably.
E
H
E
H
I
do
industry
of
mind
everybody.
This
is
a
requirement
from
the
state
auditor's
office
that
we
don't
have
more
money
appropriated
than
what
we
bring
in
and
although
we've
never
spent
more
than
we
brought
in
to
have
an
appropriation
on
the
books
say
four
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
we
only
brought
in
fifty
thousand.
H
It
appears
that
we
could
over
spend
our
money
that
we
have
never
allowed
that
to
happen,
but
the
state
wants
us
to
go
in
and
reduce
the
appropriations
at
the
end
of
the
year.
If
we
know
we're
not
going
to
get
enough
revenue
to
cover
the
appropriation,
so
we
do
it
as
a
blanket
one.
The
first
time
I
did
this.
H
Our
ordinance
was
about
three
pages
long,
and
so
now
we
do
it
as
a
blanket
authorization
to
go
in
we're
probably
a
little
better
about
budgeting
now,
but
there's
still
quite
a
few
of
them
that
we
go
ahead
and
reduce.
It
gives
us
a
truer
picture
in
our
year-end
reports
for
budgeting
of
the
next
year
to
see
what
is
reasonable
to
project
for
revenue
and
expenses
and.
E
P
P
You've
moved
in
this
direction.
Mr.
chairman,
as
you're
aware,
the
County
Commissioners
have
a
quarter
of
a
percent
sales
tax
initiative
on
the
November
ballot,
the
majority
of
that
sales
tax
actually
comes
from
or
would
come,
have
passed
from
food
sales,
tax
and
retail
establishments
within
the
city.
P
So
I'm
wondering
whether
or
not
you
as
the
finance,
chair
or
city
administrators,
the
mayor
have
had
conversations
or
plan
to
have
conversations
with
the
commissioners
on
the
city
of
Athens,
giving
a
portion
of
that
taxes
if
passed
since
the
city
is
probably
the
biggest
generator
for
that
particular
tax,
and
if,
in
fact
that
becomes
one
of
the
primary
sources,
would
it
not
make
sense
to
negotiate
some
of
that
for
city
endeavors,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
projects,
county
and
city
projects,
for
example,
you
could
even
fund
Bailey's
run.
You've
talked
about
that.
P
That's
an
opportunity.
You
could
renovate
the
armory.
You
could
look
at
additional
code
enforcement
officers.
You
could
look
at
additional
sitting.
A
service
person
now
and
I
just
want
to
raise
that
and
find
out
whether
or
not
your
thoughts
have
been
in
that
direction.
If
you've
had
conversation.
Do
you
plan
to
have
conversation
I
think,
that's
thing
that
people
are
interested
in
well.
E
Just
off
the
top
of
my
head,
I,
don't
think
the
city
has
any
any
legal
leverage
at
all
to
be
able
to
go
to
the
county
and
say
I'd
like
to
have
a
portion
of
your
of
your
sales
tax
that
there
they
had
that
I
serve.
That's
there's
we
we
don't
have
any
way
of
death
other
than
that
they
just
love
this
to
death.
It's
a
bullet
sure
here
it
takes
take
some
of
it,
but
obviously
I
don't
see
how
we
could
sometimes.