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From YouTube: Athens City Council January 28, 2020
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Athens City Council January 28, 2020
A
Good
evening
and
welcome
to
ethnicity,
council,
it's
Monday,
January
27th
2020,
and
we
are
in
committee
meetings
tonight
and
tonight
we
have
a
little
bit
different
order
and
it
will
have
the
Transportation
Committee
first,
because
they
we
do
have
some
people
of
whom
we
may
have
questions,
and
rather
than
have
them
wait
the
whole
evening
or
if
they
have
additional
information
to
add
about
the
street.
Closings
that
we'll
be
discussing,
then
we'll
be
able
to
call
in
them.
Thank
You,
chair
cuts.
B
Yes,
president
nicely
thank
you,
and-
and
so
yes
tonight,
we're
we're
kicking
off
the
the
street
closure
season
season
so
and
a
little
bit
earlier,
I
feel
like
we're
starting
to
approach
some
of
these.
These
closures
and
start
talking
about
them
sooner
than
later,
as
as
most
of
them
start
to
happen
in
the
spring.
Through
the
summer
also
administration
has
been
working
hard
on
getting
grouping
a
series
of
closures
together
at
the
same
time.
B
So
tonight
we're
gonna
be
talking
about
four
different
street
closures:
okay,
actually
they're
slim
on
the
on
the
agenda,
the
International
Street
Fair,
the
the
cruise
ends
that
are
by
the
plains:
Lions
Club
Ohio
brew
week
and
bounty
on
the
bricks
and
so
I'm
going
to
I
made
some
notes
and
because
on
our
drives
we
have.
We
have
the
forms
that
all
of
the
promoters
have
gone
through
and
filled
out.
B
So
you
can
actually
refer
to
those
for
for
additional
information,
but
the
International
Street
Fair
is
the
the
first
Street
closure
that
we're
going
to
have
uptown
and
that
is
on
Saturday
April
4th
closure
time
is
going
to
be
from
7
a.m.
to
5
p.m.
and
this
is
East
Union
Street
from
Court
Street
to
Church
Street
and
in
Church.
Street,
of
course,
is
the
the
little
street
that
goes
past.
Oh
Medical
Center
help
me
out
University
people
by
Chris
Aleta.
B
Yes,
trust,
leaning,
beer,
yes
and
goes
down
to
the
School
of
Music,
and
this
this
closure
does
force
the
also
the
closure
of
college
from
Washington
I'm.
Sorry,
yes,
yeah
College
from
Washington
to
Union
will
also
have
to
be
closed
during
this
time.
So
that's
7
a.m.
to
5
p.m.
on
the
4th
of
April,
and
there
will
also
be
a
parade
that
will
start
at
Baker
Center
and
will
will
come
up
to
East
Union
to
start
it
off.
So
you
might,
you
might
encounter
at
one
particular
moment
slightly
a
little
bit
of
a
stall
there.
B
The
the
second
closures
that
we
have
to
discuss
are
the
plains.
Lions
Club
they're.
Doing
their
3
3
dates
for
their
cruising,
which
is
called
the
oldies
bash
on
the
bricks
there
are.
These
are
Friday
evenings
from
5
p.m.
to
9
p.m.
and
they're
also,
all
Friday
evenings
it's
May,
29th,
July,
31st
and
September
11th.
B
This
closure
is
from
this
Court
Street
from
Washington
to
state.
So
no,
you
won't
have
that
much
disruption
of
vehicular
traffic
on
this
one
as
they're
not
closing
down
any
intersections.
The
plains.
Lions
Club
didn't,
did
note
on
their
form,
because
the
fire
chief
always
asked
that
the
fire
lane
is
going
to
be
maintained
down
the
center
of
the
street.
B
The
next
one
next
series
up
is
that
Ohio
brewery
week
will
be
having
their
two
saturday
closures.
This
is
Saturday
the
11th
and
I'm
sorry
Saturday
July
11th
in
Saturday,
July
18th
and
the
first
one
on
the
11th.
That
is
for
the
first
call
event
that
is
from
1:00
p.m.
to
6:30
p.m.
it
is
west
state
between
court
and
Congress.
So
in
between
all
right
by
the
Casa,
Tony's
and
and
some
of
that,
those
establishments
right
there.
B
The
closure
will
be
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
up
the
street
so
that
so
that
access
egress
is
still
allowed
on
the
into
the
alley
parking
area
that
that
goes
in
behind
Tony's,
the
that
second
one,
the
last
call
on
Saturday
July
18th
doing
a
12
p.m.
a
12
a.m.
now.
That
is
the
I
think
I
may
have
written
that
down
incorrectly
in
that
on
the
forums
they
have
when
when
the
event
starts,
but
then
they
ask
for
additional
time
for
closure
mm-hmm.
Oh
you
got
it:
okay,
okay,
yeah,
so
setup
and
breakdown.
B
I,
don't
know
on
the
18th,
that's
gonna
be
from
9
a.m.
to
1250
p.m.
and
so
that
will
be.
That
is
a
larger
closure
and
that
that
is
cord
Street
from
Washington
to
carpenter
and
then
that'll
also,
then
include
a
closure
on
West
State
from
from
college
to
Congress.
Now,
I
will
note
that
with
the
Ohio
brew
week,
these
are
the
same
requested
closures
that
they
had
as
of
last
year
and
the
final
one
that
we
have
in
this
in
this
bundle
is
the
bounty
on
the
bricks.
B
B
B
A
B
It
was
yes,
yes,
so
they
were
they
were.
They
were
present
for
that
discussion
and
I
would
say
that
many
most,
not
all
of
the
the
promoters
were
there,
and
this
would
actually
be
a
good
time
for
me
to
check
with
administration.
I
know
that,
from
that
sheet
that
we
received
last
week,
we
have
most
of
the
we
had
almost
all
of
the
dates
pinned
down
for
all
of
the
the
events
except
for
boogie,
on
the
bricks
and
so
have
you
have
you
had
any
contact
with
with
them.
C
D
B
Is
this
is
just
kind
of
the
first
few
that
we're
able
to
bundle
together?
So
no
arts
and
music
festival
is
on
there
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that
she
not
I
have
an
electronic
version,
because
I
know
we
got
to
pay
for
one
less
last
week.
Yes,
I
have
an
electronic
version
of
that
that
I
could
also
share
with
with
Council
so
that
you
just
have
it
in
your
room.
Have
it
in
your
email,
but
it
has
all
the
dates
but
yeah
after
this
music
festival.
Actually,
what's
the
salmon
of.
C
C
So
people
know
what's
going
on
during
the
summer
plus
it
gives
you
know,
convention
Visitors,
Bureau,
the
a
news,
the
Athens
messenger
enough
time
to
where
they
know
what's
going
on
and
can
put
together
an
entire
slate
which
would
be
beneficial
for
everybody
to
where
people
are
know.
What's
going
on
all
summer
long.
E
You
discussion
that
I
had
at
mr.
Thompson
is
in
the
audience
tonight
about
doing
this
and
I
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
is
being
done
to
present
these
in
multiple
pieces,
but
I,
don't
think
they
all
have
to
be
done,
and
you
know
in
one
or
even
two
or
three
right,
but
having
this,
it's
really
helpful
for
those
of
us
thinking
about
it
and
those
people
who
want
to
do
an
event.
They
can
begin
to
see
that
schedule
and
say
well.
This
is
this
is
what
I
can
do
it.
E
B
Well,
I
would
say
I
would
say
definitely
also
when
you
think
about
the
business
owners.
You
know
that
thinking
of
staffing
and
stocking
levels
you
know
based
on
on,
what's
happening
with
with
these,
because
you
know
some
businesses
they're
gonna,
do
really
well
well
with
closure
and
some
won't
so
they
they
can
adjust
accordingly,
based
on
on
what
their,
what
their
historical
data
has
been
and
knowing
that
sooner,
it's
always
better.
F
B
Not
this
year
is
my
understanding
that
I
believe
next
year
as
we
continue.
So
this
was
a
you
know.
This
is
kind
of
the
first
first
time
that
they've
really
tried
to
bring
people
together
and
get
this
stuff
buttoned
up
a
lot
sooner
than
later,
and
so
I
I
believe
that
you
know
and
I
go
ahead.
I'm
not
gonna
speak
for
administration.
Let's,
let's
have
them
do
that
for
them.
C
Some
you
may
remember
that
there
was
an
event
last
year
that
was
one
of
our
traditional
events
that
took
way
too
long
to
get
things
together
and
before
council
and
that's
when
the
conversation
started
in
terms
of
having
all
event
organizers
in
the
front
conference
room
at
the
table.
Looking
at
the
same
calendars,
everyone's
speaking,
the
same
language,
the
Uptown
Business
Association,
was
also
there.
C
So
a
yuba
was
at
the
table
and
understanding
what
was
going
on
this
year
since
its
new
we're
gonna
work
through
it,
but
we're
likely
not
going
to
find
it
acceptable
to
wear.
You
know
less
than
60
days
out
all
of
a
sudden.
Something
is
coming
at
us
for
a
street
closure
this
year,
but
next
year
there
will
be
a
hard
line
in
the
sand
or
here's
the
way
it's
going
to
work.
C
If
you're
in
and
you
you
follow
these
guidelines
and
you
get
it
in
within
a
set
time
frame
to
where
council
can
have
it.
Whether
we
go
through
as
councilmember
Crowell
was
saying
whether
it's
in
tranches
of
you
know
three
or
two
but
to
where
it's
manageable
from
a
scheduling
standpoint,
then
once
that's
done
it's
done.
B
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Second,
second
bullet
point
that
I
have
tonight
on
transportation
is
an
ODOT
resurfacing
project,
and
this
is
once
again
is
thinking
about
this.
How
many
construction
projects
can
adat
have
on
us,
33
and
us
50
between
bridge
paintings
and
everything
else,
but
they're
they're
doing
some
more
work
within
our
city
limits.
This
is
a
paving
project
which
is
on
both
33
and
50,
from
Richland
Avenue,
and
it's
over
the
bridge
over
over
the
Hocking
River.
B
It's
actually,
it
begins
at
the
bikeway
underpass,
which
I
thought
was
was
an
interesting
way
to
say
this,
which
is
the
same
bridge
that
goes
over
a
packing
River,
but
this
is
an
LPA.
So,
once
again,
ODOT
is
just
looking
for
us
to
sign
off
on
this
they're
gonna
do
100%
of
the
work
checking
with
with
the
director
heady
at
EPW.
He
didn't
have
a
timeframe
of
exactly
when
this
was
happening,
but
this
is.
This
is
a
pretty
big,
paving
project
that
will
be
coming
here
this
year.
G
B
B
A
The
first
item
is
the
southeast
Ohio
History
Center,
and
the
director
where
the
director
emeritus
Tom
O'grady,
has
submitted
a
request
for
counsel
to
send
a
letter
of
support
for
their
capital
campaign
request
to
the
state
of
Ohio,
and
they
are
asking
for
$600,000
in
the
budget
to
work
on
the
roof
and
also
restore
the
masonry
and
I
believe
Chris
councilmember
fall
received
a
copy
of
that
letter.
Thank.
G
G
A
There
has
been
discussion
with
at
the
County
Commissioners
meeting
regarding
the
project.
There
has
also
been
discussion
at
the
Port
Authority
City
Council
did
receive
a
letter
from
the
executive
director
of
the
economic
development
council,
stating
that
the
Port
Authority
was
tabeling
their
decision
to
move
forward
with
bond,
given
some
of
the
financial
information
that
they
thought
that
they
needed
in
addition
to
that,
and
the
county
commissioners
also
have
not
taken
a
vote
on
this,
and
so
the
request
of
the
mayor,
we're
bringing
forward
this
tonight
for
discussion.
C
An
AR
C
grant
said
that
they
would
be
able
to
cover
the
salary
for
an
executive
director
for
the
first
year
of
this,
which
is
solely
needed.
You
know,
because
there
is
Orca,
which
you
know
is
just
the
board
members,
but
there's
nobody
who
can
act
as
that
Stewart
to
move
things
forward.
Everything
from
seeking
other
funding
to
promoting
the
Bailey
trail
systems
to
which,
as
I
understand
it
14
miles,
have
already
been
built
to
this
point
in
time,
give
or
take
14
miles
to
include
an
adaptive
trail.
That's
there.
C
So
there
is
programming
that
could
start
on
that
14
miles
of
the
soon-to-be
88
miles
of
mountain
biking
trail.
So
orchid
did
vote
to
use
the
money's
coming
for
the
grant
money
coming
through
rural
action
to
fund
that
executive
director
to
get
things
going,
it'll
be
a
full-time
position
and
that
person
has
a
full
plate.
Everything
from
having
some
level
of
oversight,
at
least
the
conversations
that
took
place
at
Orca,
having
oversight
over
the
the
revenue
that
will
be
generated
at
the
trailheads
themselves
again
to
the
other
items
that
I
have
indicated
to
Council
tonight.
C
So
it
was
a
fruitful
Orca
meeting
earlier
today.
Set
Brown
from
quantified
ventures
was
there
to
give
certainly
some
updates
on
different
options
for
the
funding.
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
going
to
request
of
council
is,
if
you
look
carefully
at
the
agreement,
and
in
particular
under
exhibit
a
section
4
and
under
section
4,
has
the
statement
for
withdrawal.
That
is
what
has
really
created
a
road
block
or
a
log
jam
in
moving
this
project
forward.
C
For
those
who
have
already
agreed
to
be
funders,
which
at
this
point
is
the
city
of
Athens
and
hopefully
it'll
free
things
up
for
the
county.
Commissioners,
although
I
cannot
speak
for
them
and
that
being
to
request
that
council
consider
amending
section
for
the
withdrawal
comment
to
where
it
would
leave.
A
C
C
I
So
because
our
our
ordinance,
what
we
passed
last
December,
was
contingent
upon
the
county,
also
making
a
commitment.
An
accounting
has
not
yet
done
that.
I
am
not
sure
as
why
the
city
should
make
changes
at
this
point.
If,
if
the
county
is
not
also
willing
or
going
going
to
come
up
with
with
what
is
perceived
as
their
share
of
funding
and
I've,
also
I
know
that
several
individuals
have
put
put
forward
a
case
for
there
to
be
some
state
funding
and
in
the
state
budget
and
I.
I
C
A
couple
things:
if
I
may
this
agreement
and
the
exhibit
a
applies
to
both
the
city
and
the
county.
If
we
move
this
to
show
that
we're
willing
to
free
up
the
log
jam
that
is
gotten
in
the
way,
then
this
reverts
back
to
the
county,
the
county
still
has
to
make
a
decision.
They
could
still
sit
there
and
go
no
we're
not
voting
for
this
under
those
same
terms
to
where
we
too
cannot
opt
out.
We
are.
C
I
G
G
But
you
you
want
to
remove
the
things
that
makes
the
city
whole
in
case
Bailey's
collapses
or
make
the
city
whole
again
with
other
Orca
and
those
sort
of
things
that
makes
the
whole
Bailey's
collapse.
I.
Think
that
because
the
county
and
other
organizations
have
said
wait
a
minute
we
are
not
going
to
go
through
with
this
does
not
make
the
sense.
F
The
original
ordinance
there's
a
clause
that
says
if
the
county
doesn't
come
through.
The
city
is
not
on
the
hook.
For
anything
we
don't
do
anything.
Does
the
county
have
assembler
clause
and
whatever
resolution
they're
gonna
look
forward
to
say
that
if
the
city
doesn't
come
through,
they
won't
come
through,
in
other
words,
the
same
type
of
ordinances.
We
have
no,
of
course,
commissioners,
don't
pass
ordinances,
they
don't
have
a
legislative
authority,
well
correct,
yeah,.
C
F
Well,
so
far,
they
haven't
done
anything
back.
You
know
that's
yeah,
back
back
back
weird
that
turn
the
wayback
machine
chairman
and
we
go
back
to
December.
What
was
coming
out
of
the
county
was
Haake
City.
You
got
to
move
forward
on
this.
You
take
a
long
time.
You
have
to
go
through
readings.
You
have
to
get
the
meetings,
you
have
to
have
earrings
we're
a
County
one
meeting
and
we
can
have
this
thing
done
just
like
that.
Okay,
we
do
everything
we
get
our
ducks
in
a
row.
F
We
have
the
right
ordinance,
we
put
everything
together.
We
have
expert
witnesses,
they
all
come
forward.
We
have
hearings,
we
have
talks,
we
have
more
hearings,
we
have
more
talks
in
the
newspapers,
that's
everywhere.
We
do
everything
we're
supposed
to
do.
We
get
it
done,
come
Tuesday
the
next
week.
The
commissioners
do
nothing,
they
say:
I
need
more
information.
F
What
more
information
do
you
need?
It's
already
there?
Okay,
so
as
everybody
always
says,
when
they
come
up
here,
talk
about
Bailey's,
I'm
Ford
the
project,
but
what
I
don't
like
is
there
seems
to
be
no
reciprocity
from
the
county
for
us.
I'd
like
to
see
some
earnest
of
intent
from
them
some
resolution,
some
statement-
this
is
City.
If
you
do
this
I
promise
you
we
will
pass
a
resolution
in
support
of
Bailey's
and
we
will
go
out
and
get
a
bar
I'd
like
to
see.
That
is
that
too
much
ass
phone
yeah.
It's.
C
Not
it's
not,
but
let's
just
take
a
step
back
from
what
we're
going
from
the
Port
Authority
is
to
have
a
clause
in
there.
That's
this
90-day
opt-out,
walkaway
clause
and
I'm
off
the
hook.
Is
that
they're
never
gonna
fund
it?
They
I
would
imagine
that
most
bond
councils
would
look
at
something
like
that
and
go.
F
Problem
is
not
what
the
bond
council
Orca
my
problem
is
even
if
we
do
that,
and
we
please
Orca
and
the
bond
Council
says
hey.
This
is
great
I
just
had
this
horrible
feeling,
the
county's
still
gonna
say
no
I,
just
don't
see
any
enthusiasm
on
their
side
well
other
than
maybe
one
out
of
three
I'm,
not
gonna
name
names
or
anything.
But
here
you.
C
I,
just
don't
see
it
I
think
the
90
days.
One
thing
I
do
want
to
return
to
the
capital
budget.
I
was
involved,
albeit
on
a
conference
call
in
to
those
who
were
in
attendance
with
representative
Edwards
talking
about
the
possibility
of
getting
the
Bailey's
into
the
Bailey
trail
system
into
the
capital
budget.
It
was
a
good
meeting.
C
It
seems
to
me
that
every
time
I'm
involved
in
a
capital
budget
conversation,
it's
always
a
good
meeting,
and
it
has
proven
me
wrong
twice
before
on
the
armory,
the
first
time
trying
to
get
the
armory
in
for
nine
hundred
and
some
odd
thousand
dollars,
and
that
went
nowhere.
All,
albeit
I,
was
creating
relationships
with
you
know
both
the
representative
as
well
as
state
senator
and
then
to
put
it
in
again
to
the
last
capital
budget
at
a
much
reduced
price
alongside
two
other
armories,
the
one
in
Chillicothe
and
the
one
in
Marietta.
C
Both
of
those
got
funded.
Where
our
ask
was
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
again
we
didn't
receive
any
funding
from
that
I'm,
not
gonna
read
the
tea
leaves
as
to
why
we
didn't
get
that
funding
under
the
previous
administrations.
But
the
ask
is
going
to
be
three
point:
six
million
dollars
to
go
towards
Bailey
trail
creation.
Keep
this
in
mind
as
well,
though
Council
is
the
biennium
as
I
understand
it
that
money
won't
be
released
until
2020.
C
It's
not
like
that
money
is
gonna,
be
there
right
away.
It's
not,
and
meanwhile
funding
is
still
needed
for
the
Bailey.
I
have
I,
don't
know
if
set
Brown
wants
to
speak
to
this
at
all
or
not,
but
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
set
Brown
from
quantified
Ventures.
If
we're
successful,
getting
to
say
a
million
dollars.
You
know
into
the
governor's
portion
of
the
capital
budget,
which
is
as
I
understand.
It
is
the
portion
of
the
budget.
That
is,
the
request,
is
going
to
go
forward
to
through
representative
Edwards.
C
Is
that
some
adjustments,
you
know,
can
be
made
to
either
the
length
of
time
in
which
we're
paying
or
something
along
those
lines?
If
there's
a
million
dollars,
that's
going
to
go
towards,
if,
if
counsel
will
keep
that
in
mind,
it's
a
big
if,
if
a
million
dollars,
you
know
better
yet
three
point:
six
million
dollars
goes
towards
the
trail
construction,
but
there's
that's
a
that's
such
a
moving
target.
C
C
D
C
Trail,
the
88
miles
of
this
particular
trail
is
only
in
Athens
County.
Excuse
me.
Okay,
there
were
letters
of
support
for
the
capital
budget
requests
that
have
come
from
the
the
village
of
Chauncey
from
the
city
of
Nelsonville
from
I
wrote
a
letter
of
support
for
this,
as
well
as
the
county.
Commissioners
I
believe,
wrote
a
letter
of
support.
C
A
I
think
what
we'll
do
now,
that's
good
to
have
a
background
information
on
the
updates
if
we
have
any
kind
that
are
specific
to
what
were
what's
on
the
agenda
tonight.
So
that
will
be
the
the
request
to
amend
110
19
by
removing
that
one
clause
says:
did
you
want
to
speak
if
you
come
up
negative
address
and
the
group
that
you
represent?
If
you
could
announce
that
and
sign-in
set.
H
Brown
quantified
ventures
is
a
group
I
represented,
which
is
a
company
in
Washington
DC,
which
is
where
I
live.
I
live
in
Washington
DC
to
speak
to
what
the
the
mayor
is
recommending
in
terms
of
amending
the
ordinance.
It
is
the
Senate
signal
of
the
city's
commitment.
It
is
not
changing
how
the
deal
would
be
structured.
It's
not
putting
debt
on
the
balance
sheet.
It's
not
doing
any
of
the
things
that
we
were
worried
about
during
the
debate
last
December,
because
those
amendments
already
in
there.
H
If
there
was
ever
a
change
to
the
financial
obligation
to
the
city,
it
would
have
to
come
back
to
City
Council
if
there
was
ever
a
circumstance
to
where,
in
the
case
of
any
sort
of
financial
change-
and
there
was
an
obligation
that
was
left
of
the
city
would
have
to
come
back
to
City
Council.
The
second
point
is
that
this
isn't
an
agreement
with
some
third
party.
Stranger,
who
you
don't
know.
H
This
is
the
outdoor
recreation
council
of
Appalachia,
of
which
you
have
a
representative
on
the
on
the
committee,
and
you
also
have
a
representative
on
the
board,
which
is
mayor,
Paterson,
and
so
this
is
one
of
three
of
the
board
members
who
this
agreement
is
being
entered
into.
So
if
there
was
a
circumstance
of
which
philanthropic
or
a
capital
budget
or
an
operation
budget
came
down
and
changed
the
obligation
of
what
needs
to
be
funded.
There
are
the
people
in
place
to
bring
something
back
to
Council.
H
For
that
change
and
that's
important
to
keep
in
mind
what
this
is
is.
This
is
sending
the
signal
that
you've
already
sent.
You
must
pass
unanimously
a
20-year
obligation
or
20-year
commitment
in
this
contract.
I
get
you
guys
were
all
in.
You
wouldn't
have
passed
that
if
that
wasn't,
you
know
you
were
willing
to
get
part
of
that
with
this.
H
Assuming
the
signal
is
removing
the
language
that
would
give
fear
to
someone
who
is
lending
money
to
the
organization
and
that's
it
and
how
that
money
is
gonna,
be
won,
is
dependent
upon
the
county,
as
we've
all
talked
about
and
the
county
may
move
forward.
They
may
not
that's
totally
the
prerogative
if
they
don't
move
forward
it
completely.
Changes
with
the
city's
obligation
is
as
written
in
the
amendment,
but
this
puts
our
best
foot
forward.
H
It
takes
away
an
argument
which
I
think
is
a
moot
point,
because
you
wouldn't
have
passed
this
if
you
weren't
in
it
for
the
long
haul
and
if
there
ever
was
a
circumstance
in
this
in
the
future
to
require
to
change.
You
have
that
path
forward
with
the
representative
of
work
and
the
fact
that
the
City
Council
can
amend
things.
So
thanks
maybe
have
questions
me.
H
J
H
I
think,
in
a
scenario
where
you
are
gonna
be
quote-unquote
backing
out,
there
would
be
circumstances
with
the
Council
of
Governments
that
would
make
it
to
where
the
obligation
was
no
longer
in
the
city's
interest
or
there's
no
longer
required
by
the
fo
Recreation
Council
that
balagia.
Both
of
those
paths
still
exist,
because
this
is
not
dead.
On
your
balance
sheet,
there's
a
general
obligation
bond
that
you
are
entirely
will
holding
to
repay
and,
if
not
you're
going
to
you
know,
whatever
the
bankruptcy
laws
are
for
how
a
general
obligation
bonds
are.
G
G
This
discussion,
whether
we
need
to
be
able
to
back
out
because
one
management
isn't
doing
right,
development
isn't
doing
right
or
whatever
sort
of
things
other
entities
decide
to
pull
out.
I
think
that
is
what
counsel
wanted,
was
a
clause
to
protect
the
city
budget
and
protect
the
city
from
having
to
put
forward
money
that
doesn't
make
sense
for
a
project
that
is
going
to
north
or
waylaid
and
yeah
and
I.
G
Think
that
that's
essential
to
look
at
because
we've
already
seen
from
the
County
Commissioners
a
oh
we're
guy
back
away
or
we're
going
to
do
whatever
they're
doing.
And
then
the
city
is
like,
oh
well,
the
city
needs
to
step
up
even
more
because
the
county,
oh,
we
need
to
do
understand
any.
You
know,
I,
think
that
that
is
that
a
really
important
point
to
understand
is
that
when
the
other
partners
are
backing
away,
we
do
not
want
to
step
up
even
more
any.
J
You
and
I
think
to
Kemp's
memorizers
point:
there's
a
lot
to
love
about
this
project.
I
think
it's
the
long-term
commitment
that
makes
us
nervous
I
believe
there
was
a
presentation
done
previously
that
talked
about
the
financial
situation
that
we're
in
right
now,
which
makes
it
very
feasible,
given
the
revenue
that
we're
getting
from
the
new
gas
tax
and
how
that
we're.
I
That
may
happen
at
the
state
level
that
we
have
no
control
over
in
terms
of
of
our
revenue
and
if,
if
things
were
to
change
and
and
there
is
not,
they
a
dramatic
increase
in
the
transient
gas
tax,
for
whatever
reason
that
that
the
city
has
the
ability
to
say
no,
we
are,
we
are
not
permanently
on
the
hook
or
on
the
hook
for
this
for
20
years,
and
that
because
we
we
don't
necessarily
know
what
our
finances
are,
are
going
to
be
able
to
bear
20
years
from
now.
And
so
it
wasn't
just
say.
I
H
H
Knowing
that
that
money
would
be
coming
in
while
the
trail
was
able
to
become
self-sufficient
with
revenues,
and
if
there
is
a
very,
very
strong
understanding
that
that
is
not
guaranteed
and
that
there
is
a
high
likelihood
that
the
city
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
be
there
for
the
long
haul.
That
person
would
not
be
there
willing
that
money,
or
it
would
be
an
extremely
risky
thing
to
do,
and
so
we're
trying
to
send
a
signal
that,
like
it,
is
a
long-term
commitment
that
we
are
part
of
that's
and.
A
C
F
E
I
think
that
we
are
a
little
bit
in
the
wayback
machine
in
that
you
know
there
was
some
some.
You
know.
Skepticism
I,
fully
appreciate
that
that
mr.
Brown
has
full
confidence
in
the
success
of
this
project
and
the
success
of
work
on
and
not
the
mismanagement
of
funds
and
etc,
etc.
But
counsel
was
not
sure
about
this
until
the
clause
was
put
in
that
we
could
get
out
of
it
right
now.
E
H
The
amendments
were
not
on
that.
Actually,
the
amendments
were
twofold.
The
events
were
on.
If
there's
a
financial
obligation
place
in
the
city,
what
happens
and
I
don't
know
the
exact
word
for
word
and
then
the
other
amendment
was
on
the
evaluation.
You
know
what
the
evaluation
would
show
the
that
was
originally
in
there,
even
when
it
was
tabled,
because
it
was
copied
from
the
Council
of
Governments
agreements,
which
are
all
section,
and
that
was
in
the
original
amendment,
but.
E
A
Okay,
we're
gonna,
take
these
two
comments:
Grace's
Falls
and
we're
gonna
wrap
up.
We've
been
talking
for
at
least
half
hour,
35
minutes
and
I
value.
Everyone's
accomplished
contributions
to
it,
but
I
I'm,
not
sure
we'll
see
what
the
two
closing
statements
are
here.
They
keep
them
short
and
maybe
we'll
come
to
some
agreement,
but
right
now,
I
think
we've
not
moved
forward,
particularly
councilmember
fall
I.
G
Think
the
the
key
is
that
most
of
the
time
city,
council,
funds
projects,
we
get
the
project
and
it's
a
physical
thing.
We
do
not,
especially
in
this
sort
of
project,
do
management
and
administration
and
the
management
and
the
administration
of
this
project
seems
to
be
a
high
number
value.
When
you
start
looking
at
the
numbers
and
I
think
that
that's
one
of
the
problems
that
I
hear
on
council
is
we,
like
the
trail
I
would
be
more
than
happy
to
put
more
money
towards
the
trail
physical
entity.
G
However,
going
and
funding
the
administration-
and
you
know
whatever
is
going
forward
with
Orca
and
stuff,
it's
different
and
so
I
think
that
when
council
asks
for
money,
we
fund
a
sewage
treatment
plant.
That's
ours,
we
get
them,
it's
a
piece
of
property
that
we
can
own
and,
however,
Bailey's
presents
counsel
in
a
different
light.
I
think
that
if
it
was
separated
into
you
know
physical
and
management
and
administration
that
would
be
different
than
we
could
have
a
different
counsel
discussion.
Okay,
thank
out.
I
I
just
wanted
to
return
to
member
crawls
statement.
That
I
mean
I
am
NOT
an
expert
in
in
finances
or
bond
procurement.
But
when
I
read
through
this
and
I
thought
well
Orca
as
an
entity
has
no
assets
it.
So
why
is
anyone
going
to
issue
a
bond
to
Orca
and,
and
so
then,
I
asked
in
previous
meetings
who
is
going
to
be
on
the
hook
financially
for
the
the
bonds?
I
You
pay
your
financial
commitments
through
that
year,
but
then
you
can
leave
should
have
known
very
well
that
then,
if,
if
that
is
the
term,
no
one
is
going
to
issue
bonds
and
as
it
happens,
that
that
is
that's
true.
That's
where
we
are,
and
so
now
we're
being
asked
to
remove
that
escape
clause,
remove
that
option
of
leaving
in
order
to
be
financially
responsible
for
the
payment
of
those
bonds,
and
so
as
I,
think
I
think
this
could
have
all
been
very
clear
long
ago,
and
so
that
that
is
my
my
take
on
this.
I
A
I
G
A
H
A
And
I
don't
know
that
there's
any
one
council
person
that
is
I
mean
that
could
come
forward
to
I
suppose
if
an
individual
council
member
would
want
to
come
forward
to
amend
it,
but
that's
where
we
are
right
now
and
I,
don't
think
there
any
other
decisions
that
can
be
made
at
a
committee
meeting.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Next
item
is
the
climate
enter
emergency
resolution.
G
Thank
you.
There
you
go
name
next
week.
I
would
like
to
put
forward
a
climate
emergency
endorsement
for
the
city
of
Athens
I,
think
that
it's
been
we've
been
pussyfooting
around
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we've
been
discussing
about
employment,
emergency
and
so
I
would
like
to
put
this
into
code
and
to
start
a
process
of
pushing
through
ordinances
and
policy
associated
with
the
climate
emergency.
Thank
you,
I
and.
G
Actually
know
I,
don't
see
it
at
home.
Well,
no,
you
actually
did
an
amendment,
and
so
yes,
please,
it's
been
around
and
I've
already
updated
it
and
put
it
out,
which
said
less
snarky
things
that
I
did
on
the
first
thing,
but
basically
this
is
a
call
to
arms
about
climate
and
climate
change,
which
is
not
climate
changes,
a
climate
emergency
and
putting
our
everything,
our
full
resolution
and
energy
towards
addressing
this
issue,
which
has
to
do
with
community
resilience
with
the
mayor,
has
done
a
lot
of
resilience
projects
going
forward.
E
A
A
J
You
I'm
trying
to
find
it
I
believe
there
were
some
benchmarks
we
were
committing
to
yes
by
2030
in
terms
of
our
carbon
emissions
and
which
is
curious
where
those
came
from
and
right
how
feasible
they
might
be.
But
I
also
understand
that
the
report
that's
supposed
to
come
out
as
a
result
of
this
right.
G
I
won't
like
the
citations
with
it
when
it
comes
forward
with
the
various
and
angles
send
those
out
this.
A
lot
of
this
comes
from
the
new,
the
new
Greendale
green
new
deal,
which
ever
that
one
is
green
new
deal
anyway
and
other
information
also
the
mayor's
partnership
for
for
the
climate
and
the
state
partnership
with
ployment.
Also,
there.
A
A
A
I
I
I
This
is
this:
is
one
bill
that
sort
of
keeps
increasing
and
and
I
I
would
much
prefer
a
more
coordinated
plan,
or
you
know
that
we
could
present
to
the
residents
sort
of
at
one
time
and
put
forward
the
reasons
and
instead
of
feeling
like
we're
repeatedly
bringing
up
different
rate
changes.
So,
but
that
is
my
one
concern
with
with
this
proposed
increase.
I
Even
it
is,
it
is
not
a
large
increase,
but
I
I
have
been
in
communication
with
different
residents
who
have
have
brought
up
the
phrase
being
nickeled
and
dimed,
and
when
your
your
utility
bills
or
different
obligations
that
you
have
to
pay
just
kind
of
keep
steadily
increasing.
It
certainly
does
feel
that
way
and
with
that
I
will
say.
Our
our
water
sewer
and
garbage
rates
are
actually
quite
low
compared
to
many
other
municipalities
and
and
I.
I
Do
think
that
if
there
is
a
a
good
cause
for
this,
but
but
I
would
request
and
I
know
it's
not
easy
because
it
it's
as
I
as
I
said
earlier,
it's
different
needs
different
things
within
the
city,
but
it
I
believe
it
would
be
of
service
to
council
members,
as
well
as
to
our
residents,
to
have
a
sort
of
a
more
coordinated
plan
that
that
could
be
looked
at
at
one
time.
So.
I
H
E
The
service
Safety
Director
would
like
to
staff
a
new
position
at
the
at
the
city
called
environmental
coordinator.
In
the
past,
the
person
responsible,
the
city,
has
paid
the
athlete
oil
and
water
conservation
district
on
a
contract
for
Abbot
Stevenson
to
to
basically
administer
the
city's
ms4.
That's
our
municipal,
separate
storm
water
system
and
service
safety.
Director
Stone
would
like
to
bring
that
into
the
city's
responsibilities
instead
of
contracting
it
out.
Basically,
and
so
part
of
this,
the
increase
that
that
member
grace
introduced
would
pay
for
this
position.
E
It's
a
non-union
job,
non
supervisory
administrator
position,
probably
about
the
middle
of
the
pay
grades,
he's
not
quite
sure
yet,
where
it'll
be
exactly
and
as
I
said,
the
primary
role.
The
position
will
be
to
administer
the
municipal
EMS
for
program,
specifically
the
permit
or
stormwater
pollution
prevention,
but
service
theta,
director
stone
also
sees
possibility
to
sort
of
do
some
some
backup
in
terms
of
responsibilities
for
the
city.
E
He
would
like
this
environmental
coordinator
to
also
back
up
the
lab
technicians
at
the
city
laboratory,
and
this
would
be
overseeing
some
of
the
things
in
the
in
the
stormwater
or
in
the
sewage
treatment
plant,
the
fats,
the
greases
industrial
preety
pretreatment,
and
assisting
the
wastewater
treatment
manager
with
the
biosolids
management,
the
sludge
that
we
produce
in
the
city
and
then
other
environmental
education
efforts
as
Miss
Stevenson
used
to
do
for
the
soil,
water
and
Conservation
District.
She
has
retired.
E
I
C
Additional
duties,
I
think
are
really
needed
and,
in
particular,
if
you
look
at
fat,
oil
and
grease
program
of
getting
out
and
monitoring
what
enters
into
our
our
sewer
or
sometimes
storm
system
with
grease
trap,
overflows
and
whatnot.
But
that's
what
this
person's
job
would
be
to
go
around
to
restaurants
and
other
establishes
establishments
that
produce
a
lot
of
fats,
oil
and
grease.
C
You
know
they
have
been
with
the
city
for
for
a
long
time
and
by
having
someone
in
this
role,
they
understand
how
to
operate.
The
lab
both
of
our
lab
operators
know
each
other's
jobs
and,
and
often
you
know,
do
both
those
jobs
if
someone
is
away
or
whatever,
and
this
would
have
a
third
person
and
understand
how
to
operate
the
lab
equipment
on
the
water
and
the
wastewater
side,
something
else
just
to
mention
the
council.
C
It's
been
ten
years
since
this
rate
has
increased.
So
if
you
look
at
at
material
costs,
I
guess
a
good
point
of
reference
would
be
the
most
recent
storm
tunnel,
which
was
was
ace
I
believe
it
was
a
single
course
block
brick
storm
towel
in
front
of
the
Stewart
McDonald,
building
that
when
we
had
our
camera,
actually
a
rented
camera,
a
creeper
creeper
camera
to
go
through
that
storm
tunnel
and
see
what
the
condition
was
like
that
the
walls
were
failing
inside.
C
That
particular
thing
you
know,
and
so
we've
got
aging
infrastructure
as
well,
yet
the
cost
of
materials
haven't
stayed
flat
over
the
past
10
years.
If
anything,
they
have
gone
up,
and
so
that's
part
of
this
equation.
It's
basically
keeping
up
with
inflation
that
we
see
for
materials
in
reality
when
you
think
about
things
like
water,
wastewater
and
sewer
storm
brother.
What
you
see
in
a
lot
of
municipalities
is
you'll,
see
annual
increases
in
those
rates
to
keep
up
with
the
cost
of
living
with
inflation.
We
don't
do
that
mountains.
C
C
We
would
be
directing
that
forty
thousand
dollars
under
the
current
contract
to
that
position,
but
also
looking
at
what
this
would
generate
and
council
I
believe
you
have
this
in
front
of
you
already
anticipate
yield,
would
be
two
hundred
and
seven
thousand
dollars,
so
it
could
fund
that
position
as
well
as
making
sure
that
we
have
the
monies
that
we
need
to
not
just
keep
things
repaired,
but
to
constantly
enhance
and
improve
our
stormwater
system.
You
know
the
comas
are
the
the
Congress
Street
improvement,
the
sewer
improvement.
C
You
know
there
were
laterals
that
were
identified
and
it's
a
good
thing
that
there
were
lateral
connections
identified,
because
those
at
the
end
of
the
day
could
end
up
becoming
a
negative
hit
from
EPA.
If
all
of
a
sudden
they're
identifying
other
materials,
it
should
be
in
the
storm
system
on
high
water
event,
council.
I
J
K
Hat
my
issue
right
now,
is
only
procedural
with
moving
forward.
We
don't
have
a
job
description
and,
as
far
as
for
me,
the
ability
to
use
80%
of
stormwater
money
for
a
job
that
might
only
do
50%,
stormwater
work,
I
think
should
be
clarified
before
we
start
this.
When
we
had
our
meeting
last
week,
I
believe
Andy
said
that
the
person
our
consultant
doing
this
right
now
spends
about
20
hours
a
week.
Doing
this
so
I
think
and
it
possibly
could
be
and
end
up
being
an
80/10/10
split,
but.
K
What
we
need
to
justify,
where
we
take
that
money
from
when
ordinance
is
passed
that
goes
into
the
staffing
ordinance
for
the
splits
or
where
we
pay
them
from
so
so
the
Job
Description
will
help
right
so
that
so
we're
not
just
guessing
at
the
split
that
we
really
have
some
concrete
duties
and
can
look
at
them
and
weigh
them
for
how
that
person's
gonna
be
paid.
Thank.
A
E
Thank
You
president
Isley
first
item
on
our
agenda
tonight
is
the
CMI
software
upgrade.
The
city
is
in
desperate
need
of
new
software
to
run
all
sorts
of
systems
that
the
city
utilizes
from
our
taxation
payroll
accounts
payable.
This
is
from
the
auditor's
office
utilities,
Human
Resources.
They
rely
on
this
software
and
it's
desperately
in
need
of
an
upgrade.
E
We
do
have
backups
of
this
data
that
is
required
by
law,
so
we
do
have
to
have
a
system
that
that
runs
effectively.
The
proposed
appropriation
for
this
would
be
out
of
580
funds,
since
it's
citywide,
the
rough
estimate,
I
believe,
is
about
a
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
now.
That
also
includes
the
next
item
on
our
agenda,
which
is
a
server
or
the
auditor's
office,
where
this
information
sits
on
average
like
to
add
anything
on
the
CMI
software.
K
Just
a
little
more
background
for
council,
the
city
of
Athens
has
been
with
CMI
software
company
since
1985
and
when
I
took
office
in
2004.
Well
in
2005
we
upgraded
the
software
system
and
that's
the
last
time
we
did
it.
So
it's
been
14
years
plus,
since
we
did
that
and
it's
time
now,
and
so
there
are
some
other
reasons
that
we're
pushing
forward
with
this
we've
talked
about
it
for
a
long
time,
but
it's
it's
it's
a
large
ticket
is
the
well
several
things.
There
are
issues
there's
so
many
changes
in
the
tax
law.
K
So
once
I
found
out
that
the
new
HR
director
was
all
in
favor
of
those
I
think
the
last
couple
people
have
been
frustrated
trying
to
work
with
the
one
that
we've
had
and
a
big
issue
come
up
with
it
today
that
we
found
out
about
of
information
being
sent
to
our
insurance
carriers
or
might
have
been
pers
whatever.
That
was
wrong
and
so
yeah.
So
it's
time
to
do
all
these
upgrades
and
as
member
Kraus
said,
the
total
is
one
hundred
and
seventy
four
thousand
five
hundred.
K
Actually
so
the
finance
part
it,
which
is
the
Accounts
Payable
mostly,
is
sixty
thousand
the
authority.
Payroll
is
fifty
one
thousand,
and
then
the
tax
authority
is
sixty
one
thousand
and
so
I
rounded.
Those-
but
it
does
add
up
to
that-
one
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollar
ticket.
Now
when
we
started
getting
the
estimate,
this
included
a
new
server
which
hasn't
been
replaced
in
eight
years,
which
means
you
know
in
server
life
technology
life.
K
It's
having
issues
because
we
don't
have
enough
memory,
and
so,
with
the
the
new.
This
new
quote
included
a
server.
However,
we
would
like
to
separate
that
and
try
to
get
that
server
in
place
as
soon
as
possible.
There's
not
enough
memory.
It
takes
them
an
hour
and
a
half
to
run
their
bills
to
send
out
every
week.
K
If
anybody
else
is
on
the
system
trying
to
use
it,
it
slows
it
down
even
more,
but
even
waiting
till
four
o'clock
when
people
are
off
to
do
it,
took
them
that
long
and
and
so
they're
anxious
to
to
get
a
new
server
in
there,
which
is
sorely
needed,
because
we
are
having
issues
in
our
in
our
office
to
from
things
being
slowed
down
because
of
the
lack
of
memory.
So
the
thing
is
so
on
that
we
have
money
in
our
supply
fund
that
we
think
we
could
move
down
to
our
our
capital
500.
K
It's
our
capital
fund
in
the
auditors
budget
to
pay
for
that
it
should
be
less
than
ten
thousand
dollars.
Seven
or
eight
is
what
I
believe,
and
so
we
I
would
really
like
to
get
a
decrease
in
increase
in
the
auditors
budget
to
move
that
server
replacement
along
and
then,
as
far
as
the
upgrades
for
the
software,
you
know
that
can
go
go
through
three
readings
and
it
should
and
not
be
implemented
or
started
until
about
April,
or
something
like
that.
K
So
we
can
only
implement
one
at
a
time
or
nobody
in
our
office
will
be
doing
anything.
So
we
need
to
start
with
finance,
because
payroll
has
a
component
that
is
dependent
on
the
finance
system
being
upgraded
and
and
then
we'll
go
to
tax
and
hopefully
get
it
all
done
by
the
end
of
this
year
about
nine
months
all
set
and
done.
I
do
have
information
on
that.
How
long
they
think
it
would
take
to
install
each
each
application
and
anything
else.
Anybody
wants
to
know
or
if
you
have
questions
right
now,
does.
J
K
That
will
need
to
come
out
of
the
cap
fund,
which
is
the
580
fund.
So
our
budget
is
in
the
general
fund
101-102,
so
it
would
be
five.
Eighty
five,
eighty
I
don't
know
that
we
have
our
own
cap
lines
in
there,
so
we
don't
typically
spend
that
much
money
and
then
it
would
be
out
of
the
500s
for
computer
equipment
would
be
the
specific
account
line
and.
K
They're
doing
the
police
department
have
a
backup,
I
know
so
right
now,
no-
and
you
know
that's
another
whole
issue
with
the
city
server
in
City
Hall,
that
has
enough
room
to
house
our
information
and
back
it
up.
However,
we
contacted
the
state
auditor's
office
and
we
have
had
IT
audits
when
the
state
actually
audited
us
and
asked
them
what
what
the
requirements
would
be
for
our
backup
and
just
to
put
it
simply,
they
like
what
we're
doing.
K
Four
years
ago,
maybe-
and
so
he
explained-
which
is
way
over
my
head-
I'll
be
honest,
I
understand
the
gist
of
it,
but
if
we
do
to
cloud
backups,
if
we
get
a
cyberattack
ransomware
anything
like
that
on
our
computer,
it
will
all
be
in
the
cloud
and
someone
who
has
figured
out
how
to
tap
that
can
probably
do
both.
They
would.
Rather,
we
had
an
off-site
and
a
different
type
of
backup
and
there's
different
ways.
We
can
do
that,
but,
along
with
all
of
that,
information
and
I
could
do
more.
I
could
read
you.
K
You
know
we're
just
safer
doing
that
we
in
our
disaster
recovery
program
goes
hand-in-hand
with
that
which
the
whole
city
is
supposed
to
have,
but
it's
a
big
deal
for
us
not
to
lose
our
information.
If
there
were
a
disaster,
uptown
and
Sarah
building
caught
fire,
the
electricity
was
out
and
we
weren't
able
to
bring
it.
You
know
come
back
up
in
a
reasonable
time,
so
we
have
a
whole
program
and
I
carry
a
copy.
In
my
car
we
have
one
we
store
one
somewhere
else.
K
You
know
fire
safe
keys
and
all
that
we
worked
out
an
agreement
with
the
community
center
to
go
over
there
and
use
their
computers
that
the
whole
city
is
out.
Nobody
is
really
going
to
be
expecting
anything
if
the
crisis
is
in
the
Uptown
area
or
our
building
or
just
our
two
buildings,
we
if
we
could
go
somewhere
else
to
do
that,
the
person
who
and
see
that's
the
other
thing.
K
We
have
an
outside
person
who
will
install
our
server
and
be
responsible
for
it,
Harlen
company,
and
so
they
we've
we've
got
that
in
there
to
where
they
will
come
down
here
and
it's
the
equipment
necessary
to
read
that
tape.
That's
because
there's
no
place
else
in
the
city
that
has
that
well,
actually,
court
does
a
tape,
backup
still
but
I
think
they
still
do,
but
anyway
we
would.
K
They
would
have
to
do
that,
but
we
we
have
that
all
worked
out
so
that
we
can
just
go
to
another
building
that
has
electricity
and
computers
and
be
able
to
bring
our
information
back
up.
The
biggest
thing
for
me
is
really
to
get
people
paid,
and
so
the
idea
that
we
can
do
it
that
way
and
have
a
tape-
that's
not
corrupted,
as
opposed
to
the
ransomware
on
the
cloud
wherever
cloud
system
it
goes
to
you
know.
If
it's
corrupted,
you
know
it
won't,
it
would
corrupt
both
of
them
any.
I
Have
a
question
about
this
software:
this
is
something
I've
been
thinking
about
with
all
of
our
different
offices
and
is:
are
there
any
points
at
which
for
information
points
in
this
software?
That
would
be
things
that
the
public
would
want
to
access
or
be
able
to
access
as
far
as
individual,
an
individual
wanting
to
be
able
to
say
log
into
a
city
system
and
check
their
tax
bill.
There
are
things
like
that,
and
would
that
be
an
option
and
I.
K
Think
that's
an
option
available
now,
but
that's
probably
one
of
the
main
reasons
for
the
hrs
program
to
be
incorporated
so
that
employees
can
go
in
I
know
you
has
that
and
and
look
at
it.
It
never
actually
was
up
and
running
in
the
other
software
that
was
purchased
but
the
the
state
auditors.
We
have
so
much
confidential
information
in
our
system,
in
particular
in
the
tax
department.
K
Everything
we
have
in
there
is
by
law
confidential.
However,
people
would
be
surprised
if
they
knew
how
much
information
we
have
where
everybody's
bank
account
numbers,
social
security
numbers,
social
security
numbers
for
their
spouse
and
whoever
might
be
on
their
life
insurance
beneficiary
and
things
like
that,
and
so
there's
just
a
lot
more
than
people
realize
that
would
be
dangerous
if
it
was
compromised,
and
so
we
have
talked
about
the
tax
thing,
though,
of
ways
to
put
certain
information
out
there.
The
thing
is,
we
can't
really
have
them
logging
in
to
our
our
software.
I
Do
things
like
that
through
either
you
know
internet
or
through
an
app,
and
so
I
wondered
if
this
particular
software
is,
is
designed
to
either
interface
and
communicate
with
an
application
that
you
know
so
so
an
individual
could
log
in
and
pay
their
income
tax
bill
or
have
that
sort
of
electronic
interface
with
the
city,
but
without
having
access
to
the
information.
They're,
not
right.
K
I
K
If
they
go
in
and
it's
not
what
I
understanding
is
it's
not
just
to
look
up
how
many
sick
days
you
got
out
or
vacation
days,
but
you
can
put
information
your
information,
your
address
or
whatever
and
different
things
in
there.
But
you
know
I
could
ask
more
about
that.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
information,
our
financial
reports
and
all
that
information
are
totally
public
records.
So
those
are
the
requests
we
get,
though,
for
the
record
asks
for
the
most
okay.
I
K
They
previous
employee
was
unhappy
with
with
CMI
utilities
and
went
to
another
software
company
for
a
time,
and
it
was
really
really
difficult.
They
have
now
come
back
to
see
to
CMI
several
years
ago,
and
so
it's
really
hard
to
have
different
software
companies
handling
everything.
So
that's
one
thing
about
and
it
it
appeared
to
me
when
I
was
getting
close,
that
it
would
cost
us
more.
You
get
a
better
deal,
the
more
you
get
from
one
company
so
well.
E
E
cheeky,
as
assistant
director
used
to
do.
She
also
is
proposing
that
the
rec
maintenance
specialist
one
in
two
positions
be
combined
into
rec
maintenance
specialists.
This
was
technically
approved
by
council
in
2018
as
part
of
a
collective
bargaining
agreement,
but
we've
never
updated
it
in
our
staffing
ordinance.
So
this
is
a
technical
matter.
E
B
E
Okay,
it
is
same
pay
grade,
so
the
facilities
operations,
division
manager,
which
will
take
over
the
role
of
the
pool
manager
as
well
as
the
assistant
director,
would
be
at
the
same
pay
grade
as
the
assistant
director.
So
there's
no
real
change
there
in
terms
of
all
the
dollars
necessary,
although
mr.
cheeky
has
been
I
had
been
with
a
PR
for
quite
some
time,
and
so
this
new
person
will
come
in
and
we're
probably
a
few
some
money
saved
and
combining
those.
J
D
A
I'm
remembering
the
conversation
that
there
is
that
other
additional
position,
so
if
that
person
is
not
going
to
be
needing
to
take
on
assistant
director
and
pool
manager,
but
they'll
be
the
pool
and
that
division
the
operations
will
be
split
out
and
then
the
programming
will
be
the
later
considered
under
another
position.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
they.
K
Just
point
out,
the
pool
manager
is
a
seasonal
position
at
the
pool,
and
so
it's
not
two
full-time
positions
combined
into
one
number
one
and
the
assistant
director
has
always
supervised
the
pool
manager
and
so
part
of
some
of
that
it
would
be
on
them
anyway.
Managing
the
pool
basically
would
be
on
on
that
assistant
director
position.
E
Okay.
Thank
you.
No
further
comment:
we'll
move
on
to
fire
department
contract
the
service
safety
director
has
reached
a
tentative
agreement
with
the
Union,
and
the
highlights
are
that
this
would
be
three-year
term
with
pay
raises
of
two
percent
in
the
first
year,
2.25
percent
in
the
second
year
and
2.5
percent
in
the
third
year.
E
E
E
E
E
The
union
membership
rejected
the
first
tentative
agreement,
mainly
over
some
of
the
changes
that
the
city
wanted
with
that
command
pay,
but
they
came
back
to
the
table
and
took
out
most
of
those
changes
but
gave
less
of
a
pay
increase
in
return
and
they
ratified
the
second
time.
So
hopefully
this
will
be
a
contract
that
will
be
approved
and
we
can
move
forward
with
our
firefighters
for
another
few
years.
Any
comments
from
Council.
J
C
There
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
the
team
that
went
to
the
table
on
the
administrative
side
again,
as
you
mentioned
director,
stone
the
law
director
and
Liana,
which
was
also
on
that
team.
So
thank
you
out
of
direct
for
helping
your
deputy
auditor
was
at
the
table
throughout
that
process,
so
it
was
completely
negotiated
with
in-house
which
work
the
last
negotiation,
and
it
worked
this
one
this
one.
C
G
K
To
thank
the
mayor
for
mentioning
my
new
deputy
auditor
Liana
woods
allowing
her
to
be
on
that
committee.
It's
appointed
by
the
mayor.
It
was
a
really
good
mix
of
those
three
people.
Liana
has
done
payroll
in
my
office
for
at
least
the
last
12
years
and
she
understands
their
pay,
their
steps
command
shift.
You
know
all
that
kind
of
stuff
and
I
think
she
brought
a
lot
to
the
table
and
I
know
they
worked
really
hard
and
I.
K
K
K
C
E
A
I
Thank
your
president
nicely.
There
is
just
one
item
on
our
agenda
today
and
that
is
requests
from
our
engineering
and
Public
Works
Department
that
we
authorize
an
expenditure
for
for
the
department
to
purchase
a
closed
circuit,
sewer
television
camera
that
would
be
used
to
inspect
and
evaluate
our
sewer
lines
and,
as
we
know,
we
have
aging
infrastructure
and
much
of
that
infrastructure
is
under
our
streets
and
it
is
very
difficult
to
know
exactly
what's
going
on
in
these
sewer
lines
under
our
streets,
and
so
they
included
the
amount
in
their
budget
for
this
purchase.
I
It's
something
that
mr.
Hetty
said
was
probably
his
his
top
priority
equipment
for
this
for
this
year,
and
but
because
it
is
over
$50,000,
it
needs
to
come
through
Council
for
approval,
and
this
it
is
a
estimating
$90,000.
This
is
a
big
system
that
is
powered
and
has
essentially
a
camera
system
that
can
go
quite
a
distance
and
on
wheels
that
will
allow
it
to
navigate
through
different
sized
sewer
lines
and
what
we
currently
have
can
only
go
in
some
of
our
smallest
sewer
lines,
and
so
I
I
learned
more
about
sewer
line
cameras.
I
Then
I've
ever
thought
about
before
in
my
life
and
there
they
currently
the
city
rents
one
when
we
have
significant
issues
and
we
pay
a
large,
a
large
fee,
rent
them
and
sometimes
have
to
wait
several
days,
which
can
then
cause
significant
delays
in
in
getting
streets
opened
up
to
traffic
again.
If,
if
we
have
some
major
issues,
so
does
anyone
have
any
questions
or
could
we
Brent.
I
That
might
be
something
for
for
consideration,
but,
speaking
with
mister
heady,
he
was
estimating
that
this
would
be
used
on
a
very
regular
basis
within
the
city.
He
said,
if
not
every
day,
probably
at
least
three
days
a
week
here,
because
they
wouldn't
use
it
only
in
emergency
situations,
or
only
when
there's
a
problem.
They
would
be
proactive
going
out
during
inspections
and
something
that
has
has
come
up
in
conversations
about
our
storm
sewer
is.
I
There
are
more
and
more
roles
that
the
the
responsibility
of
keeping
track
of
information
and
doing
routine
checks
is
being
put
on
the
city
from
the
EPA
and
keeping
up
with
those
would
would
be
part
of
that.
Hopefully,
new
position
that
but
having
this
sewer
line
camera
we
could
see
where,
where
storm
water
is
coming
in
to
the
lines
when
there
increases
where
there
could
be
problems
and
hopefully
be
able
to
keep
our
sewer
lines
and
better
repair.
D
I
I
put
I,
don't
know
the
actual
fund,
that's
that's
the
Finance
Committee,
but
I
I
was
informed
by
the
service
safety
director
and
also
mr.
heavy
that
that
this
was
budgeted
for
it's
already
in
in
the
city
budget.
It's
just
council
has
to
authorize
the
expenditure.
Okay,
it's
you're
nodding.
Auditor
heck.
Is
that
correct.
K
J
H
C
Pointing
out
I
Steve
in
college
Street
is
a
prime
example
of
a
return
on
investment.
You
had.
We
had
this
to
creep
through
the
the
sewer
line,
which
was
which
is
very
deep
on
College
Street.
It
would
have
saved
us
in
terms
of
having
to
dig
to
find
which
means
moving.
You
know
tens,
if
not
hundreds,
if
not
thousands,
of
tons
of
Earth
and
and
brick,
and
what
not
to
find
only
to
have
to
return
that
back
in
the
ground
once
it's
done.