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A
He's
not
on
the
agenda,
but
he
wanted
to
when
we
get
for
an
offering
some
more
information.
So
let's
go
sorry
we're
already
we're
on
camera.
Now
this
is
the
August
4th
raver,
a
scheduled
meeting
of
the
FM
City
Planning
Commission.
It
is
2:30,
3:00
I.
Think
I
can't
see
that
work
and
we
do
not
have
a
quorum
only
variable
and
myself
at
present,
but
we
don't
have
any
cases
to
take
care
of.
So
it
doesn't
really
matter
and
we
do
have
communications.
A
C
D
Some
of
the
information
that
was
presented
last
time
in
a
communication
from
the
County
Planning
Commission,
to
resulted
in
a
negative
vote
for
me,
was
found
to
be
not
quite
as
accurate
as
hopefully
what
I
want
to.
Let
you
folks
know
today
last
time
they
said
that
there
were
seven
addresses,
seven
properties,
that
access
Glen,
Drive
and
I
believe
you
can
only
have
four
on
a
private
road.
D
Rosemount
are
actually
only
five
accesses
on
to
land
row
and
two
of
the
five
do
have
a
public
road
frontage.
They
they
do
access
when
drive,
but
they
do
also
have
public
road
frontage,
and
in
talking
with
the
county,
planner
and
the
folks
at
the
county
meeting,
we
felt
that
and
a
couple
folks
were
there.
If
I
speak,
it
incorrectly
go
ahead
and
and
correct
me
who
felt
that
my
split
would
result
in
for
properties
not
having
public
access
frontage.
D
E
D
Say
that
the
two
septic
systems
that
exist
there
would
be
okay,
the
last
few
pages
of
the
handout
that
I
gave
you
or
with
me,
but
they're
there,
the
the
lot
split
description
and
a
road
maintenance
agreement.
As
of
right
now,
I've
got
two
signatures
on
the
original
and
I've
got
one
verbal
that
I
haven't
shot
the
signature
back
yet,
but
I
talked
to
the
gentleman
in
person
and
I
got
his
verbal
and
his
telephone
number.
He
said
he
didn't
have
a
problem.
He
just
has
not
returned
my
fax
yet
with
his
signature.
D
The
fourth
individual
that
I
I
would
need
to
get
a
signature
from
I
attempted
to
contact
this
individual
several
times
and
actually
tried
to
chase
him
down
a
couple
times,
and
he
really
I,
don't
think
I'm
going
to
get
his
signature,
not
due
to
the
fact
that
he's
against
it
or
forward
in
any
way
that
this
individual
just
doesn't
want
to
be
bothered
with
anybody
or
anything
and
I
really
think.
If
this
is
going
to
go,
it
would
end
up
going
without
that
individual
signature,
because
I
don't
think
I'm
going
to
get
it.
D
The
portion
of
the
road
that
his
property
fronts
on
is
all
the
way
at
the
very
end
and
it
only
accounts
for
maybe
50
feet.
It's
not
very
much
of
the
road
and
I
volunteer
to
take
care
of
the
head
part,
but
so
I've
almost
got
all
of
the
names
for
the
the
two,
the
two
papers,
the
agreement
for
everybody,
that
they
they
agree
with.
Me
split
my
lot,
but
it's
not
father
to
them
or
interfere
with
them
at
all,
and
also
the
road
maintenance
agreement
within
those
two
documents
that
I
wrote
up.
D
There's
a
part
and
I
made
sure
I
stress
to
everybody
that
they
read
that
part
that
Glen
Drive
is
a
right-of-way
for
utilities
and
also
the
use
of
the
public,
and
so
they
all.
They
all
know
that
and
understand
that
I
don't
have
anything
from
the
health
department.
I
contacted
them
today
to
see
if
they
had
came
out
and
looked
Chuck
hammer
I
believe
in
the
last
year,
with
him
and
I
haven't
heard
anything
back
from
them.
D
F
B
B
D
F
D
F
D
A
G
A
G
A
G
G
Even
though,
in
the
letter
says
possibly
to
the
cover
letter
is
just
something
that
I
sent
back
to
him,
because
mr.
love
doll
wondered
what
the
process
was
to
amend
a
final
class
again
I
attached,
two
sections
of
the
subdivision
regulations
related
to
that.
One
simply
says
that
any
change
can
approve.
G
G
G
G
That
is
considered
a
minor
change
and
not
a
major
change
that
had
to
go
through
the
whole
process
say
if
you
had
a
twenty
five
lot
subdivision,
you
could
add
two
Lots,
then,
because
three
would
be
more
than
10%
of
of
what
was
previously
approved.
But
again
that's
up
to
the
Commission
and,
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
never
cut
this
with
review
the
subdivision
regs
that
the
planning.
G
G
B
B
F
G
B
G
If
it
were
not
part
of
their
covenants
and
restrictions
for
the
subdivision,
that
additional
subdivision
was
not
allowed
without
consent
of
everyone
in
the
subdivision,
minor
lot
splits
where
it's
just
transfer
to
adjoining
property
owner
a
lot
of
times
are
described
in
covenants
and
restrictions
of
a
subdivision
as
being
permissible
without
the
entire
ownership
of
the
subdivisions.
Approval
in
a
case
like
that,
to
the
current
time,
mister
loved
all
owns
all
the
Lots
so
understand.
B
B
If
he's
talking
of
two
and
that's
but
I,
don't
really
want
to
encourage
that,
because
when
you
go
through
the
subdivision
process
that
that
should
be
your
full
intent.
But
I
can
understand
that
you
get
in
so
far
and
your
costs
are
such
that
you
get
to
a
point
that
if
unexpected
things
come
up
as
he's
pointing
out.
G
A
B
B
But
this
was
an
example.
What
I
didn't
see
in
the
example?
Is
it
wasn't
merging,
taking
two
lots
of
making
them
three?
Well,
what
was
it
where
we
just
splitting
one,
one
and
I
don't
know
I
know
we
had
some
concerns
of
this
as
to
the
access
points
into
South,
Blackburn
road,
because
it's
Hellion
minded
fees.
When
we
put
that
driveway,
it
could
be
a
blind
curve.
H
F
G
F
C
B
B
G
A
G
B
What
we're
looking
for
is
legally
from
the
law
director
is
there?
What
are
our
options?
What
will
the
law
allow
us
to
because
can't
we
break
it
into
minor
changes?
Major
changes,
because
I
could
I
can
see
that
you
know
there
are
some
things
when
you
get
into
road
construction
and
everything
else
that,
yes,
there
are
some
minor
changes
of
moving
something
twenty
feet,
which
makes
it
close
to
that
fifty
foot
right
away
really
should
be
shut
somewhere
else,
and
that
is
a
modification.
But
to
me,
that's
a
minor
modification
based
upon
actual
construction
details.
G
B
F
G
G
G
G
A
H
A
F
A
A
B
A
A
And
that
we
we
need
to
start
making
our
plans
for
doing
the
comprehensive
plan.
What
we
had
discussed
in
an
earlier
as
our
members
of
the
Commission
had
discussed
in
an
earlier
meeting
before
we
had
a
copy
of
the
plan
that
we
would
divide
it
up.
Rick
and
I
are
on
the
committee,
so
we
have
been
through
this
a
couple
times
right,
but
the
other
members
of
the
Commission
have
not
so
we
have
to
give
them
time
to
do
it
now.
They
all
have
it
and
what
we've
decided
we
would
do.
A
We
would
divide
it
up.
Everybody
will
expect
everybody
to
read
it
all,
but
that
each
of
us
would
be
responsible
for
five
chapters
where
we
go
into
great
detail,
and
that
would
be
our
end,
but
there
any
questions
that
need
to
be
resolved
or
any
information
we
need
to
bring
in
or
anything
like
that
or
and
some
of
them
I
know,
take
pics
the
things
at
work
or
particular
interest
and
work
she's
done
on.
A
A
A
A
B
Yeah
and
I've
asked
each
of
them
to
come
into
the
office.
We
have
it
on
disk,
etc.
They
can
then
go
through
their
sections
and
say:
are
these
anywhere
near
what
your
five
year
or
whatever
objectives
are
for
change
or
improvement?
Or
how
would
you
deal
with
it?
Do
you
have
the
resources?
Do
you
have
the
staff.
A
C
B
Some
of
the
functionality
of
the
department's,
because
when
you
look
at
the
public
facilities,
sections
about
talking
about
police,
no
tuck
hole,
I'm,
not
the
police
department,
Fire
Department,
it's
really
very
conceptual
based
plans
that
neighborhoods
and
corridors
and
broad
goals
into
the
environment
and
such
so
that
there
is
not
the
specificity
that
says
what
we
need:
32
police
officers
for
example,
or
something
like
that.
That's
really
not
addressed
in
the
conference.
A
A
F
G
Is
there
something
specifically
that
you
want
to
know
that
he
may
not
comment
necessarily
when
he's
doing
the
review
so
and
like
the
mayor
said,
this
is
easy
information
to
disseminate
at
staff
meeting.
You
know
just
to
say,
here's
the
schedule,
the
Planning
Commission
is
going
to
take
here's
the
first
section
that
we're
going
to
do
your
comments
are
due
by
next
day
and
be
prepared
to
respond
to
any
question
that
Commission
write.
C
B
Up,
for
example,
Stephen,
leicht,
chapter
5
of
the
general
regulatory
initiatives
and
talking
about
buffer
yards
and
multi-family
zoning
and
cycling.
Those
are
things
you
need
to
give
us
feedback
on,
because
those
are
things
does
it
follow
and
it's
the
same
thing
almost
in
the
riparian
corridors,
the
hillside,
production
regulations,
the
vistas
etc.
I
mean
how
is
that
in
relation
to
our
code
office,
including
building
permits?
Well,
what's
in
our
regulations
with
the
figure
with?
What's
there.
D
A
E
A
The
way
it
stands
very
little
could
be
accomplished
because
of
many
many
things
would
have,
it
would
have
to
be
legislation
and
you
started.
You
have
to
have
a
couple
of
hearings.
You
have
to
notify
all
the
people
and
the
Planning
Commission
has
to
do
it.
The
City
Council
has
to
do
it
so
I
think
if
people
read
this
and
say
well,
you
know
if
they
approve
it.
Everything's
fine.
H
A
E
A
I
some
places
I
think
it
would
I
mean
some
places.
No,
there
are
places
where
it
could
be
done.
It's
administrative
leave,
you
wouldn't
have
to
do
anything.
You
can
do
a
number
of
things,
but
some
of
these
things
had
called
for
changing
zoning
and
all
that
tor
is
saying
you
would
have
to
do
a
great
deal
before
you
could
ever
accomplish
that
in
and
what
I'm
trying
to
say,
though,
is
as
a
Planning
Commission.
We
not.
We
may
not
think
that.
That's
a
very
good
idea
what
was
recommended.
A
As
much
as
you
can,
but
then
again
all
the
people
who
went
out
there
and
talked
about
this
aren't
the
ones
who
have
who
have
been
on
the
Planning
Commission
or
been
on
City
Council.
That
worked
with
this
for
years
and
years
and
years
and
may
may
have
some
insight
into
things
that
the
general
public,
the
general
public
views
things,
of
course,
from
their
own
personal
interest,
and
sometimes
you
have
to
adjust
those
things.
It's
very
nice
what
everybody
said
that
sometimes
it's
not
practical
people
have
worked
there
for
years
and
years
make
words.
A
The
professionals
say
the
professional,
the
water
department,
man
and
the
man
who
does
it
forces
all
these
things,
the
fire
department.
They
may
be
able
to
take
a
look
at
something.
We
always
ask
them
to
look,
and
they
can
see
something
that
the
general
public
does
not
see
so
I
mean
to
say
that
we're
good
that
I
personally
I
know
how
we
feel,
but
I
personally,
do
not
believe
that
we
have
to
approve
this
exactly
as
written.
We
could
say
that
no,
we
don't
think
that
part
makes
any
sense
practically
economically.
A
I,
don't
think
the
people
who
got
on
who
came
to
that
ever
thought
that
everything
that
they
suggested
to
being
and
every
plan
I've
ever
seen.
It's.
What
you
ideal
is
what
you
would
like
to
see
your
city
do
and
then
it's
turned
over
the
people
who
run
the
city
and
they
try
as
best
they
can
to
put
all
that
into
operation,
but
some
that
you
can
and
I
think
most
people
understand
I
mean
if
it
were
a
perfect
world,
we
could
just
say
okay.
This
is
all
done.
A
E
A
That's
the
question
is,
we
perhaps
will
say
we
want
something
taken
out
of
a
writer
or
we
would
put
it
in.
You
would
have
this
section
of
we
down
the
road,
it's
possible.
You
might
be
able
to
implement
something
like
this,
but
you
know
when
you
come
right
down
to
it.
This
whole
plan
it
revolves
about
how
much
money
you
have
in
the
community
in
the
city.
How
much
money
do
we
have
to
operate
on
and
you
know
sometimes
you
just
can't
do
what
you
want
to
do.
Are
you
doing
your
own
family
I?
A
That
you
know
you
can't
always
have
everything
you
want
and
you
you
still
have
it
and
you're
you
could
keep
it
in
your
planner.
This
is
something
if
the
situation
would
change.
We'd
have
enough
money.
We
have
the
land.
We'd
have
the
people
to
do
all
this
thing.
We
would
like
to
strive
for
this,
but
right.
A
E
A
Because
people
say
that
it
is
not
true,
if
you
take
those
plans
out,
you
will
see
that
a
great
many
things
were
accomplished
with
those
things.
It
is
just
that
people
think
if
here
this
is
a
plan
supposed
to
be
perfect
and
all
that
stuff's
been
happen.
Well,
there's
no
way
all
of
the
suggestions
that
they
have
been
here.
We're
going
to
happen
no
way.
A
A
A
This
administration
has
been
we
work
together
with
the
council
and
the
City
Planning
Commission
work
on
the
things
together,
because
you
can't
do
neither
one
can
do
it
alone,
let's
face
it,
you
have
to
do
it
together,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
that
there's
any
law
that
says
that
we
have
to
take
this,
we
have
to
say
up
or
down.
You
know
we
say:
okay,
we
accept
this
or
no,
we
don't
accept
it.
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
that
says
that
we
can't
say
we
need
to
revise
this
or
we
want.
A
E
B
E
B
Understand
that
buddy,
what
I'm
saying
is
they
got
into
some
Theory
here
like
taking
Route
50,
there's
a
whole
section
on
route
50?
There
is
really
a
lot
of
statements.
That's
in
there
that
are
so
really
policy
driven
by
council.
Do
we
want
sewer
lines
where
we
do
not
have
the
building,
Authority
or
and
water
lines?
B
That's
that's!
If
you
did,
if
you
say
no
to
that,
we
have.
You
know
then
scrap
that
whole
part
of
the
plan
and
that's
a
policy
decision.
The
City
Council
has
to
make
you
know,
I
think
where
we
as
a
Planning
Commission
can
make
a
recommendation
to
the
more
that,
but
there's
a
whole
say,
there's
a
whole
sector
in
there
of
well.
This
isn't
in
the
city
now,
but
this
is
how
it
sounded.
Well,
how
can
we
create
a
zone?
B
We
don't
it
isn't,
even
in
the
city
and
all
there's,
there's
stuff
in
there
that
when
you
go
into
the
detail
with
what
and
what
part
of
what
we
would
like
to
take
a
look
at
or
things
that
and
get
input
from
staff
is
there's
a
nice
statement
in
there.
We
should
be
a
pedestrian-friendly
bicycle
friendly
community,
but
that's
never
really
defined,
as
how
do
you
do
that
and
with
really
without
some
input
from
the
staff
saying
why
l've
only
got
so
many
roads
that
are
X
wide,
that
I
actually
can
create
bicycle
lights.
B
Or
do
you
want
me
to
take
the
parking
off
of
East
State
Street
from
College
Street
through
Madison,
Ave
or
actually
through
home
Street,
so
that
we
have
no
parking
to
create
a
bicycle
border?
Well,
obviously,
that's
not
something
that
that's
a
policy
but
a
matter
of
City
Council
to
decide
on
something
like
that.
A
E
E
A
A
Zone
this
is
we've
studied
this
we've
got
through
this.
We've
discussed
it.
These
are
the
things
that
we've
had.
We
have
a
problem
with
this
all
right
this.
This
is
something
that
we
think
is
going
to
be
a
problem,
and
this
is
what
we
recommend
of
what
we
remember
recommend
should
be
changed
here
and
we.
A
We're
going
to
say
this
is
what
we
adopted.
We
didn't
like
this
and
I
think
we
should
tell
them
you
know,
I
could
say,
I
didn't
like
such
and
such
and
such
and
so
cheering
because
I,
because
I,
just
because
I
don't
personally
I
can't
do
that,
just
because
I
don't
like
something
but
based
on
actual
needs
of
the
city.
A
What
the
city
has
what
the
technical
people
that
people
and
all
the
apartments
tell
us
and
they
look
at
it
and
and
another
thing
is
I,
think
another
important
thing-
and
this
is
how
you
start
and
implement
a
plan,
is
how
much
you
would
have
how
much
legislation
would
have
to
take
place
in
the
length
of
time
it
would
take
to
do
that.
Sometimes,
that
is
counterproductive.
There
might
be
another
way
to
improve
what
these
people
want
improved
with
this
changing
and
ordinances.
It's
positive
know
these
things.
A
This
is
not
a
short
period
things
to
do.
It
takes
a
long
time
to
check,
get
those
ordinances
through,
especially
zoning,
and
all
that
takes
a
long
time,
but
it
may
be
that
there
is
another
way
to
reach
the
end
that
they
suggest
without
going
through
that
procedure,
and
that
that's
something
we
need
to
look
at
is
it?
Is
it
in
fact?
Is
there
a
way
to
do
this
already
on
the
book?
So
we
can
do
this.
We
don't
need
to
change
all
this
thing.
It's
already
there.
A
It
may
not
be
worded
quite
the
same
way,
but
it's
already
there
and
I
think
that's
what
we
want
to
divide
it
up.
Everybody
take
their
sections
and
really
look
at
it
carefully,
and
the
thing
that
I
am
anxious
to
do
is
to
have
the
other
people
on
the
because,
like
we
were
both
on
there
and
quite
frankly,
I
mean
I,
don't
know,
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
times
I've
read
how
many
times
she's
thinking
you're.