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A
Good
afternoon,
this
is
a
regular
scheduled
meeting
of
Ansan
City
Planning
Commission
for
July
20
of
2006.
It
is
238
there
as
a
quorum
present
with
three
three
people
here,
mr.
punish
PB
and
mr.
P
absent.
If
you
plan
to
make
any
statements,
we
take
sworn
or
affirmed
statements.
Please
stand
up,
raise
your
right
hand,
do
affirm
or
swear
whichever
you
want
to
do.
But
what
you
say
is
the
truth.
A
B
My
name's
Steve
Pearson
on
the
Zoning
Administrator
for
the
city
I'm
meeting
there
back
there
had
been
a
request
to
essentially
re
subdivide
lots
that
were
part
of
the
huts
in
addition
to
the
city
of
Athens
by
mr.
Maria,
and
there
was
some
question
about
in
possible
encroachment
of
an
existing
or
there
plumbing
backup
a
little
that
there's
two
buildings
on
the
lot
that
had
been
combined
by
language
or
other
than
survey,
and
that
was
done
just
before
the
purchase
of
a
recent
purchase
of
the
property.
B
The
appellant
would
like
to
read
avise
the
Lots,
but
there
was
some
question
about
where
a
property
line
might
fall
in
relationship
to
the
location
of
the
existing
buildings
on
the
Lots
in
you'd.
Ask
that
more
specific
information
V
obtained
so
second
page
of
the
packet
then
I
provided
to
you
is
just
the
tax.
B
Plat
shows
the
neighborhood
the
size
of
the
existing
wants
of
the
area
and
I
think
I'd,
provided
that,
for
the
second
page,
is
actually
a
survey
that
had
been
conducted
by
Ken
Highland
recently,
and
it
shows
location
of
a
proposed
new
lot
line,
because
in
order
to
determine
what
variances
might
be
necessary
for
this
resub
division
of
the
land,
we
had
to
know
exactly
where
line
might
be.
The
next
page,
I
just
went
out
I,
measured
the
location
of
the
buildings
that
were
on
the
lot
in
relationship
to
that
new
proposed
property
line.
B
There's
a
right
now,
there's
approximately
five
feet
between
the
two
buildings
and
the
property
line,
as
it
is
proposed,
would
essentially
divide
that
five
foot
area
in
half
so
two
and
a
half
feet
on
one
side
of
the
line
would
go
with
one
house
with
one
property.
Two
and
a
half
feet
on
the
other
side
would
go
with
the
other
house,
the
other
property,
and
then
the
other
sheets
are
just
legal
descriptions
of
the
two
proposed
wives.
On
the
cover
sheet
of
the
memo,
I
sent
you.
B
It
essentially
breaks
down
the
variances
and
it's
exactly
as
they're
needed
the
branches
for
a
lot
8:37
and
a
portion
of
838,
and
then
the
variance
is
necessary
for
the
remainder
portion
of
a
lot
838
one
lot.
Now
you
proposed
larger
lot
as
forty
seven
foot
width
instead
of
sixty
six,
an
area
of
six
thousand
plus
square
feet
where
eight
thousand
is
required,
and
then
the
side
setback
for
the
buildings
to
essentially
clean
up
the
record.
B
The
other
lot,
then,
will
be
quite
a
bit
smaller
a
little
over
four
thousand
square
feet.
That's
just
to
make
sure
that
property
line
doesn't
go
through
a
building
and
again
because
of
that
it
has
additional
diminished
frontage
on
the
street,
and
it
requires
a
three
to
one
with
the
depth
ratio.
Variance
that
the
first
lot
doesn't
first
lot
meets
the
width.
The
depth
requirement.
B
C
The
normal
size
was
52
Fender,
Squier,
C
4530
and
then,
of
course,
it
backs
up
to
Meadow
Lane,
it's
hard
to
compare
because
it's
a
condominium,
so
you've
got
a
lot
of
narrow
Lots
that
aren't
as
deep
as
the
other,
but
it's
a
whole
different
style
on
development.
That's
there,
but
as
I
look
across
the
street
or
the
next-door
neighbor's
you,
the
locks
are
fifty
five.
Fifty
two
hundred
or
so
square
feet
I
see
is
a
big
they're.
All
out
of
importance.
D
B
The
intersection
of
good
at
the
top
of
the
sheet,
the
intersections
of
Elmwood
and
Hudson
and
Elmwood
and
Lorraine,
you
can
see
lots
that
have
been
planted
at
this
larger
size
and
they've
been
split
in
half
somewhere
along
the
way.
I
recently
had
a
Zoning
Board
case,
where
the
two
Lots
on
the
northeast
corner,
northwest
corner
of
Lincoln
and
Holland.
The
same
thing
that
happened.
They'd,
been
these
larger,
narrower
Lots,
had
been
divided
somewhere
along
the
way
and
split
in
half.
So
it's
not
the
rule
in
the
area,
but
it's
also
not
uncommon.
B
D
B
B
Building
through
the
city
about
15
years
ago,
so
it
would
have
had
to
have
met
that
side
setback.
You
know
the
idea
is
we
asked
we
set
back
to
the
property
line,
not
the
distance,
the
adjacent
building.
However,
the
situation
of
combining
the
loss
was
something
the
city
knew
absolutely
nothing
about.
C
C
E
B
I,
don't
see
miss
Stanley
or
a
representative
here,
although
in
my
discussions
with
her
in
the
past
couple
of
days,
she
had
asked
the
most
efficient
way
to
have
this
review
and
I
told
her.
The
quickest
way
to
do
this
rather
than
a
square
rezoning
of
the
property
in
question
was
to
do
the
same
thing
that
has
recently
going
down
and
presented
the
Planning
Commission
and
that's
requested
a
new
experience.
B
A
couple
months
ago,
the
poor
design
appeals
can
grant
a
youths
parents,
but
I
only
have
to
review
and
recommendation
from
the
community,
so
we're
essentially
doing
the
same
thing
in
the
same
neighborhood
and
at
the
same
intersection,
just
a
different
project,
and
that
was
done
just
a
couple
of
months
ago.
At
that
time
you
requested
a
public
hearing.
I
made
a
list
property
owners
within
a
hundred
and
fifty
feet
of
the
house.
That.
B
That
was
about
120
people,
they
did
appear
at
public
hearing
and
express
their
opposition.
The
Planning
Commission's
recommendation
to
the
board
for
the
request
for
youths
variance
was
that
it
be
denied,
but
this
is
just
another
request
on
the
opposite
corner,
and
just
so
you
know
to
the
appellant
at
lot.
654
mr.
smut
sir,
withdrew
his
request.
The
board's
own
appeals,
so
they
never
did
hear
the
case.
B
It's
going
to
go
back
down
a
little
bit,
miss
Stanley
asked
me:
could
this
property
be
rezone
and
what
was
that
process,
or
was
there
any
other
way
to
possibly
use
the
property
and
I
told
her
this?
This
process
of
asking
for
use
variance
would
be
much
easier
than
extending
a
business
zone
across
the
street,
putting
it
on
the
corner
of
a
single-family
residential
zone.
B
Explaining
what
it
was
that
she
wanted
to
do
submitted
with
that
with
things,
for
example
like
where
the
existing
parking
is
down
close
parking,
they
want
to
park
right
in
front
of
the
house.
Often,
though,
you
have
Anu,
do
some
additional
landscaping,
no
modifications
essentially
to
the
exterior
the
building.
No
parents
change
the
pavement
all
across
the
front
of
the
house,
which
was
indicated.
B
You
hear
the
intersection
and
location
of
existing
property
utility
so
rather
than
take
this
to
for
design
appeals
for
the
request
we
use
variance,
I
thought
it
more
efficient
as
I
did
it
the
last
thing
to
come
to
the
Commission?
First,
you
make
your
recommendation
and
then
the
appellant
can
decide
if
they
still
want
to
see
better
for
sending
videos
where
you
could.
B
E
E
About
it,
I
think
the
public
hearing
did
indeed
establish
the
way
that
the
adjoining
property
owners
feel
about
that
that
kind
of
changed.
And
if
you
look
at
the
map,
we
go
on
east
on
East,
8th,
Street,
it's
r1
and
you
come
back
West
and
there's
our
one
across
the
street
and
our
one
diagonally
from
that
property.
E
A
G
Let's
pull
out
and
I'm
just
grateful
because
Johnny's
been
living
on
parking
since
the
ice
me
and
we've
done
the
goods
and
that
bikes
in
the
parking
and
retail
space
have
been
the
biggest
issues
that
we've
dealt
with
since
the
last
meeting.
The
one
of
the
things
we
have.
The
scholars
are
available
parking
in
the
in
that
areas
actually
did
my
daughter.
Did
a
survey
and
came
out
with
about
1,200
spaces
within
I?
G
Don't
think
he
want
to
measure
the
footage,
but
in
Elliott
Street
Mill
Street
Stimpson
Avenue,
my
name
was
the
figure
was
eleven
hundred
and
seventy
surprising.
This
surprised
me,
but
I
went
down
to
the
athlete
mobile
machine
parking
lot
of
discovered.
They
have
about
five
hundred
and
thirty
subspace
of
them.
I
had
no
idea
was
that
big
and
discovered
that
at
least
in
the
last
year
that
they
only
about
half
of
rather
now
one
of
the
things
that
that
that
John
has
in
heels
and
he'll
speak
to
more
about
it
that
it
was
mentioned.
G
I
think
it
was
the
last
time
possibly
of
double
stacking
cars
underneath
the
buildings
and
if
that's
a
possibility-
and
we
all
know
that
another
downside-
that
it's
not
the
positive
part
of
it-
we
can
add
16
more
spaces
on
site.
If
we
would
use
something
like
that,
clearly
that
has
to
be
well
managed.
It
would
have
to
be.
G
We
would
have
to
have
people
that
in
the
same
apartment
we
would
certainly
assigned
spaces
and
I
think
it
could
help,
because
my
experience
has
been
that
a
lot
of
these
students,
probably
I'm
sure
you've,
found
saying
they
parked
their
cars
for
veins.
If
not
leads,
so
obviously
they
they
would
have
to
work
out
on
themselves,
but
we
I
think
it
would
help
them
the
thing
that
would
really
we
could
turn
this
into
a
parking
lot
with
the
buildings.
G
One
of
the
things
that's
excited
me
about
this
project
is
the
this
big
dog
that
we
want
to
have
it's
as
I,
think
I.
Remember
it's
90
there
100
feet
wide
and
I.
Don't
know
how
long
is
it
done?
It's
a
big!
It's
a
big
area
and
it's
going
to
be
darn.
G
The
project
and
I've
mentioned
before
I
think
that
from
our
our
carpet
set
up
town
and
some
of
them,
don't
we
don't
have
the
first
parking
spot,
but
we
I
have
a
parking
lot
at
56,
West
carpenter,
in
which
I
mentioned,
and
we've
discovered
it
on
the
city,
but
we
make
it
available
for
our
tenants.
That's
a
reason.
I've
got
it
and
I
believe
from
some
research.
We
found
out
we're
it's
about
the
least
expensive
parking
lot
in
town.
C
G
But
that
so
there's
a
lot
of
parking
in
the
area
we
by
making
some
these
changes
in
round
figures,
and
that's
all
this
at
this
point
it
looks
like
we
might.
If
we
can
be
a
lot
of
battle
site,
it
looks
like
we
might
have
it
and
they,
the
upper
tubes
somewhere
here,
300
allowed
275
in
round
figures
and
that's
not
exactly
because
we're
still
moving
things
around
on
site,
which
would
be
a
fairly
high
percentage,
is
certainly
not
a
huntress
and
I
think.
G
Maybe
the
Senate
looks
like
it's
enough
about
70%
of
one
Hartman
spaceport
for
a
better.
The
other
thing
I
would
mention
and
is
that
the
retail
space
was
a
certainly
an
issue,
and
it
has
been
now
so.
You
might
remember,
15
years
ago,
when
I
was
in
here.
Our
plan
was
that
courts
at
North
corner
of
85
North
court.
The
all
first
floor
was
going
to
be
retail
when
he
had
this
wonderful
thought
of
the
architect
felt
that
if
he
wanted
to
make
it
like
the
new
European
community,
which
I
he
was
where
I
thought.
G
G
You
know,
I,
don't
know
how
many
years
the
first
building
I
put
a
for
rent,
sign
and
I
was
willing
to
rent
it
from
that
as
close
to
nothing
about
as
you
could
get,
and
it
sat
there
for
probably
time
when
I
lose
track
of
time
at
four
years,
and
we
finally
put
a
thing
called
pica,
courtside,
pizza
and
I
had
I
mean
we
get
out
on
the
road
now.
That
point
is:
if
we
set
aside
a
bunch
of
a
lot
of
retail
space
and
it's
financially,
it's
going
to
be
very
difficult
to
do.
G
We're
probably
proposing
something
in
the
neighborhood
of
3,000
feet
now.
Courtside
is
about
23
to
24
hours
per
square
feet,
so
it
would
be
larger
than
the
retail
space
on
Court,
Street
and
probably
well,
but
it
would
be
easier
harder
to
read.
I.
Don't
know
but
I
know
that
you're
in
a
court
Street
at
that
time
certainly
wasn't
very
easy
to
rent.
So
we
finally
came
back
here
and
and
got
out,
was
allowed
to
put
apartments
in
the
second
third
gun.
A
H
D
H
And
has
something
that
she
might
want
to
read.
That's
that's
directly
out
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
our
idea
is
to
make
this
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
here
to
work
with
via
the
plan
as
far
as
though
the
pedestrian
movement
and
that
the
bike
movement,
these
bike
paths
and
walking
today
about
noon.
I
had
a
fellow
that
I
still
let
me
out
the
campus
gates.
He
drive
my
pickup
balance.
That's
time.
I
walked
from
the
campus
gates
to
the
to
the
boss
property
about
five
and
a
half
minutes.
H
He
got
there
three
minutes
and
he
had
a
called
a
traffic
like
there
at
the
Simpson.
Whatever
it
is,
it's
a
state
or
whatever
now
he
didn't
have
to
find
a
parking
spot.
I'm
convinced
that
if
he
would
have
had
to
park,
my
truck
I
could
have
beat
him
to
the
campus
gates
and
and
from
school
single
session.
I'm
sure
I
can
be
in
Candace
case.
So
I
think
that's,
in
my
opinion.
That's
pretty
important.
You
know
that
that
that's
very
walkable
city,
you
know
it's
a
nice
walk,
it's
an
easy
walk
and
it's
just.
H
It's
really
convenient
to
go
to
our
property.
Campus
gates
are
on
fourth
street
for
that
matter.
As
far
as
the
commercial
life
recently
done,
good
experience
in
commercial
things
and
trying
to
attract
businesses
to
bid
to
the
University
Mall
and
we're
having
some
luck
that
will
go
on
vacancy
and
we
always
run
up
against
the
demographics
bar
and
they,
the
students,
know
that
leave
for
long
periods
of
time.
That's
that's
an
issue.
I
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
vacancy
other
vacancies
on
each
thing
is
vacancy
on
Fort
Street.
H
H
Stock,
that's
right
across
the
street
from
our
project,
we've
got
Bank
they're
two
banks,
then
post
office,
a
laundry
there's
just
a
lot
of
nice
things
there
that
support
straightening,
that
you've
got
the
coffee
shops
the
restaurants
it,
but
something
in
that's
done,
compete
with
these
local
people.
I!
That's
that's
just
not
an
arena.
We
want
to
get
into.
We
don't
you
know.
We
pick
those
people,
look
pretty
darn
good
job
in
there,
they're
local
and
that's
a
lesson
I.
You
know
we.
H
We
might
not
be
able
to
put
on
a
big
presentation
and
set
up
and
picture
some
things,
but
we're
local.
We
les
is
a
generation
here
with
him.
Another
one
coming
up,
I've
got
another
generation
both
been
here
since
the
1800s
and
were
accessible.
You
know
we
don't
have
all
the
answers,
but
we
already
know
is
his
office
is
right
here
on
Court
Street
we
live
here,
have
no
plans
of
if
you're
going
to
stay
here,
we
want
to
build
a
project.
That's
that
was
gonna.
Be
proud
of.
H
I
I
I
Curtain.
We've
also
added
a
parking
lot
that
was
green
space
before,
but
it
would
also
be
for
short-term
parking
visitors
trying
to
make
a
distinction
between
the
types
of
parking
that
would
be
provided
here
and
I.
Think
on
Curt
Street.
Also,
we
added
ten
more
spots
that
would
possibly
be
used
for
visitors
or
drop-off
we're
moving.
So
we
spread
those
all
around
again
and
in
the
effort
of
providing
the
things
that
are
going
to
keep
the
neighborhood
from
getting
congestion
by
traffic,
except
for
maybe
at
times
it
moving
in
and
out
now.
I
I
But
those
are
pretty
much
the
changes
that
were
made
on
plan
and,
as
les
indicated
by
allowing
double
stacking,
it
would
actually
increase
the
the
number
of
parking
spots
available
by
about
260.
These
are
all
pretty
preliminary,
though,
based
on
some
preliminary
assumptions,
we're
making
right
now
and
I
think
that
it.
C
C
And
they
just
have
to
coordinate
things,
you
know
amongst
themselves
and
if
they
were
only
going
to
go
into
this,
it's
theirs
bless.
It's
it
pretty.
Well,
my
bedroom
I'm
not
totally
opposed
to
that,
because
it
does
put
more
parking
directly
on
site.
Okay,
I
understand
what
brent
was
saying
with
respect
to
the
business
and
everything
good
before
375
in
this
well.
I
C
I
was
just
talking
about
the
party
because
I
know
there
is
a
lot
of
parking
in
an
area
but
I
think
I
I
could
see
that
some
of
those
will
go
away
over
time,
because
properties
will
start
being
used
in
other
ways.
If
there's
a
profitable
way
to
utilize
that
property,
it's
gonna
be
tough
to
figure
out
what
ratios
it's
good.
D
C
C
What
do
we
do
with
all
the
other
complexes
that
are
located
on
fire
that
may
or
may
not
ever
come
about,
because
building
parking,
lots,
cost
money
and
part
of
the
concern
we
have
is
because
they're
not
counted
as
building
structures,
they're
part
of
the
open
space.
We
know
a
parking
lot
really
doesn't
open
space.
C
C
I
C
It's
a
long
history,
it's
a
lifestyle,
difference
Joey,
that's
I
mean
the
options.
Are
there
for
people.
I
know
the
bus
goes
right
down
that
Street
thirteen
times
a
day,
going
out
to
Kroger's
and
Walmart
and
Lowe's
and
all
those
places
as
it
runs
there's
only
two
times
during
the
day
that
it
doesn't
run
on
the
hour.
You
know
and
the
city
puts
money
into
the
bus
system
and
we
transported
70.
Some
thousand
people
here
just
do
that
one
but
yeah.
C
C
A
I
E
I
E
E
I
I
E
D
E
A
F
It
without
twenty
cents,
I'd
Drive,
a
co-chair
of
the
new
insight,
David
Association
I,
think
we're
going
to
progress
here,
which
is
good
I,
like
the
idea
of
the
stack
parking
it
has
good
possibility,
especially
to
veteran
people,
have
sharing
a
little
module
unit.
Whatever
you
call
it,
Department
I
think
we
know
pretty
well
who's
going
in.
It
was
going
out
for
the
pious,
the
car
that
has
to
be
moved.
I.
F
Think
also
that,
unlike
some
of
my
other
colleagues
and
negative
associations,
73
74
75
percent
on-site
parking
is
quite
an
exceptional
figure,
at
least
given
by
looking
at
University
Commons
button
schools
in
session
and
the
number
of
empty
spaces
there
are
there.
The
same
thing
is
true
with
remember
the
100
unit,
Street
college.
D
F
Similar
kind
of
thing
I
do
have
one
concern
that
I
would
express
now
that
is
the
parking
this
looks
of
State
on
Curran
Street,
which
looks
like
you
would
have
to
back
out
into
current
street
to
access
it.
So
there
are
two
questions:
what
is
it
on
city
right
of
way,
in
which
case
I
don't
think
it
would
be
allowed
in
a
second
I,
do
have
a
concern
about
people
backing
out
into
the
street.
Thank
you.
A
I
D
I
E
A
I
A
I
A
E
C
A
C
D
I
A
E
A
Okay,
we
need
the
elevations
in
that
and
I,
don't
know
about
the
rest
of
them,
but
I
personally
am
NOT
good,
though,
for
changing
our
requirement
now
of
commercial.
On
the
first
floor,
it's
not
quite
the
same
as
I've
been
cord
straight
work
where
those
were
buildings
behind
the
idea
was
always
the
ones
that
face
the
Main.
Street
are
the
ones
that
have
to
be
commercial,
so
it's
not
quite
the
same
as
your
buildings.
Up
there,
the
end
of
Court
Street,
okay,.
A
A
F
A
A
All
of
it
has
now
both
of
them
have
appendices
an
appendix
for
too
long
appendix
one
an
appendix
to,
and
if
we,
in
most
cases
in
this
one,
you
look
at
part
one
there
where
it
refers
to
the
appendix
what
I
put
in
it
refers
to
not
a
page
number,
because
that's
almost
impossible
to
do.
It
refers
to
appendix
to
beef
or
something
like
that,
or
it
will
refer
to
appendix
one,
a
three
something
like
that.
So
you
don't
really
need
to
have
the
page
number
you
do
have
to
have
all
that
good.
A
C
C
What's
on
the
disk
now
and
what
we
I'm
going
through
is
done
part
one
of
page
71
or
271,
just
looking
for
my
little
things,
because
I
haven't
looked
at
it
as
recently
as
you
have
so
I,
maybe
been
away
from
them
for
a
little
extra
money
through
selling
so
might
might
catch
some
of
those.
But
then
I
think
all
we
really
have
to
do
is
put
the
appendices
and.
A
E
C
E
C
E
A
A
C
E
A
The
Lyman
that
the
day
as
long
as
we
give
sufficient
warning
people
which
we
could
immediately
if
we
start
telling
put
it
in
the
paper
and
let
people
know
that
we've
changed.
So
we
have
to
vote
to
change
it,
but
I
mean
that
we're
gonna
change
that
we
can
set
our
own
reading
time.
But
essentially
always
we
have
there's
a
pattern
and
I
think
this
is
another
one
to
talk
about
our
rules
of
procedure,
I
think
in
the
rules
of
procedure.
A
C
A
But
we
need
to
send
a
notice
to
the
newspaper,
media
or
people
that
whoever
you
think
it's
gonna
have
to
what
people.
No
that's
been
changed.
It's
one
thing
to
make
it
earlier,
but
we're
making
it
later
so,
but
so
they
darn
inconvenience,
don't
they
will
be
inconvenience
by
showing
up
when
they
don't
have
to.
A
B
A
A
Approached
me
about
that,
and
other
people
approached
me
about
the
changeable
signs,
among
other
things,
I
had
the
one
thing
I
would
want
to
say
about
that
first
there,
and
if,
when
the
rest
of
you
go
down,
Stimson
start
looking
as
soon
as
you
you're
out
there
at
the
intersection,
because
the
sign
there
is
directly,
you
see
it's
in
the
middle
of
the
road,
because
the
road
goes
like
that
she
started
the
talk
at
Stinson.
You
go
straight
ahead.
A
C
It's
been
administratively
interpreted
that
that
type
of
sign
is
fine,
so
permits
that
the
question
is:
is
it
distraction
in
the
distraction
mostly
comes
from
movement
within
the
side
or
changing
of
what
the
messages
of
the
side,
like
my
initial
reaction
to,
is
much
like
almost
like
Joann
st.
James
going
today,
that's
okay!
You
know
so
people
are
looking
at
it
trying
to
see
what
wasn't
going
to
changed
it
because
I
do
severe
highly
distracted
and.
D
D
D
A
A
concern
about
I
mean
the
cosine
one.
That's
in
that
that
we
were
just
talking
before
about
signs
that
that
pole,
Stimson
Avenue,
seems
to
me.
Doesn't
the
signage
on
that?
It's
lie
that
signage
going
in
when
they
find
out
on
State
Street
a
big
wide
road,
but
that's
such
a
narrow
road.
Then
it
seems
to
me
that's
the
signs
that
are
so
overpowering
or
really
in
places
like
that
are
really
sort
of
counterproductive
and
plus
they
certainly
don't
do
much
to
the
neighborhood
or,
if
you're
going
to
just
have
something.
A
For
example,
it
suggested
that
Stinson
Avenue
become
a
certain
kind
of
shopping
area
and
living
area.
Well,
I
mean
they've,
got
design
fair,
Kentucky,
Fried
Chicken,
it's
obviously
larger
than
that
bank
side
just
seems
to
me
that
those
signs
probably
should
never
been
alive
on
that
street
anyway,
should
change
our
sign
ordinance.
It's.
B
Original
memo
that
I'd
sent
to
you
about
a
month
ago
was
initiated
by
a
request
from
the
best
outdoor
advertising
here
from
Mississippi,
and
they
want
to
sell
Long
John
Silver's
a
changeable
copy
sign.
But
the
change
is
electronic
and
not
manual.
What
I
provided
to
you
then
was
ordinances
from
Iowa,
City,
Iowa
and
Auburn
Hills
Michigan,
where
they
had
recently
gone
through
this
exact
same
review.
A
B
B
E
B
Now,
in
talking
with
the
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
sign
company
wants
to
know
because
a
long
john
silver's
is
they
don't
want
to
be
cited
for
having
a
sign
that
attracts
attention
with
motion,
they
said
that
they
really
wouldn't
be
comfortable
with
anything
over
30
seconds,
so
every
30
seconds
they
would
prefer
that
the
city
enforce
that
section
of
the
code
that
talks
about
the
stretch,
the
change
every
30
seconds.
That
would
be
fine,
okay,
but
anything
less
than
that
they
they
couldn't
you.
So
that's
essentially
the
question
that
I
have
now.
B
This
is
changing
to
the
side,
once
I
think
needs
to
be
done
to
address
changing
for
copy
slides,
especially
if
they're
going
to
be
prohibited,
regulated
at
all
or
limited
to
certain
areas.
I
mean
it's
something
that's
coming
and
these
people
want
to
know.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
the
sign
provider
said
that
the
sign
that
they
they
installed
somewhere
in
Pennsylvania
is
the
only
electronics
9
antenna
because
as
soon
as
they
installed
it,
their
Council
passed
an
order
to
prohibitive,
so
Athens
is
kind
of
at
that
crossroads
right
now,
it's
not
something.
B
A
B
C
C
C
Like
the
price
of
gas,
you
know
that
sometimes
changes
more
frequently
the
daily,
but
it's
saying
I've
got
a
special
on
this
hamburger
break
through
different
different
items.
All
right!
That's
a
certain
item
for
sale,
I,
don't
anticipate
seeing
and
that
type
aside
somebody
going
out
and
changing
it
every
90
seconds.
You
have
a
whole
different
message
that
you're
trying
to
do
when
you
want
to
change
it
over
30,
60
or
90
seconds.
Some
of
you
that
you're
not
just
using
a
message
board
to
advertise
something.
C
My
recommendation
would
probably
be
daily
because
that's
what
message
boards
usually
do,
and
that
would
be
the
same
desiccant
intense
if
you
want
to
go
it
yeah,
but
otherwise
you
know
you
can
have
arrows
going
into
the
thing
that
those
were
all
we
took
out
of
there
20
years
ago,
wedding
lights,
to
go
across
things
and,
although
the
other
thing
accessible,
we
as
with
the
site
ordnance,
got
got
out
so
I
just
think
we're
going
back
with,
because
somebody's
invented
electronic
sign
that
they're
classifying
its
oh.
This
is
changeable
happening.
C
E
B
B
A
B
B
B
When
I
watched,
the
Citizens
Bank
sign
change
every
30
seconds
when
they
were
kind
of
putting
the
computer
through
its
paces
excited,
then
I
watch
them
change
it
every
minute.
Right
now
it
changes
about
once
every
five
minutes,
so
I'll.
Let
the
best
outdoor
advertising
representative
know
that'll
changeably
once
a
day
and
I'll
send
that
them
to
Citizens
Bank
and
let
them
know
that
their
message
has
to
be
the
same
all
day
long,
if
they're
having
special
on
CDs,
it
would
be
an
all
day
special
where's.
G
B
B
Must
own
and
ask
about
brightness
of
these
kinds
of
signs,
probably
know
enough
about
get
myself
in
trouble,
but
the
brightness
of
LED
and
LCD
displays
is
measured
in
terms
of
something
called
a
nit
nit,
this
and
computer
screens.
Whenever
you
look
at
them
to
go
by
them,
they
should
have
a
rating
of
nits
and
they
go
anywhere
from
150
to
300
and
on
these
types
of
signs
they
go
from
2,000
to
3,000
nits,
it's
a
measurement
of
brightness,
not
of
illumination,
just
a
brightness
and
it
equals
1
knit
equals
one
one.
D
B
B
E
B
The
only
thing
we've
gotten
down
the
sign
orders,
to
be
honest,
was
it
says,
backlit
or
illuminated
signs
are
permitted,
the
only
restriction
that
says
it
should
direct
light
away
from
residential
areas,
and
that's
all
the
guidance
that
there
is
on
that
about
illumination.
Like
our
light
trespass
pollution
regulation.
B
B
It's
essentially
a
website
with
consideration
for
astronomy
in
particular
and
observation
at
night,
and
it
gives
you
examples
of
their
preferred
types
of
lights.
They
actually
have
believe
it
or
not
at
their
website.
They
show
good
and
bad
billboard
light
and
it's
all
Illustrated.
Very
specifically,
there
are
billboards
that
have
been
given
awards
for
their
exterior
lighting,
but
it
has
to
point
down.
The
wife
goes
down
these
ones
away
from
the
bottom
up,
see
our
regulations,
don't
say
anything
like
that
for.
D
E
A
Bronies
or
audience
a
different
experiment,
it
came
I
think
came
up
about
half
of
that
because
some
problems
they're
about
at
the
Neighborhood
Association.
Then
when
I
went
to
they
were
discussing
it
and
but
there
were
two
or
three
different
places
in
the
code
where
it
was
discussed,
but
they
didn't
think
it
was
very
clear
about.
A
In
Athens,
the
one
question
that
was
brought
up
at
the
Neighborhood
Association
I
attended
was
the
interpretation
of
premise.
What
does
it
mean
by
premise
than
a
relationship
between
Athens
city
code
and
the
Liquor
Control
Department
interpretation,
who
they
interpret,
interpret
things
differently
and
which
one
are
you
supposed
to
follow
or
which
one
is
far
I?
Don't
they
didn't
give
me
a
memo
or
anything
sister's
restaurant
they
that
liquor
control
will
think.
This
is
what
they
said.
Liquor
control.
B
Kind
of
interpretation,
I
did
get
something
back
from
the
area.
It
was
researched
by
Lisa,
lots
and
Gary
confirms
that
he
agreed,
and
basically
it
says
that,
because
council
allows
consumption
of
food
and
non-alcoholic
drinks
on
the
public
sidewalks.
Therefore
there
must
be
some
other
path.
Why,
then,
could
someone
not
eat
a
sandwich
and
drink
a
Pepsi
on
their
own
property?
B
Because
would
that
join
that
as
a
comparison,
so
they
would
have
said?
Well?
How
could
you
allow
people
to
eat
and
drink
on
the
sidewalk
that
they
couldn't
on
their
own
property?
That
was
the
basis
of
their
determination,
so
they
determined
that
it
was
not
improper
anywhere
in
town
to
even
drink
outdoors.
Now
they
did
not
make
a
distinction
between
alcoholic
and
non-alcoholic
beverages
at
all.
You
can't
consume
alcohol
on
a
public
street
boogie
on
the
bricks
will
not
have
alcohol
consumption
right
on
the
street.
B
B
B
B
Are
the
ordinance
is
Onika
does
restrict
any
kind
of
eating
or
drinking
inside
or
outside
in
different
zones
and
ab3
at
least
two
feet
away
from
an
r1
or
r2,
and
the
B
to
D
at
least
100
feet
away
from
any
any
residential
zone?
So
that's
another
possibility
to
of
reviewing
those
sections
of
the
code
and
possibly
taking
into
account
distances
where
those
properties
are
buried
down
in
the
middle
of
when
they're,
very
close
or
adjacent
to
a
lesser
restrictive
zone.
B
You
know
I
I,
don't
hear
many
complaints
about
outdoor
beer
gardens
where
there's
not
residents
close
by,
but
the
ordinance
doesn't
say
that
it
just
says.
If
you're
in
the
zone,
you
can
do
it
so
long
as
you're
a
certain
distance
away
again,
a
little
more
detail,
maybe
we'll
take
a
common
ordinance
in
an
amendment
sharpen
it.
So
it
can
apply
here
in
town
because
we
do
have
these
real
restrictive
zones
right
up
against
very
liberal
I
mean
all
of
our
business.
B
A
C
B
E
F
B
A
A
B
B
Liquor
control
does
not
care
where
a
license
is
going
to.
They
don't
care
about
zoning.
However,
if
there's
a
transfer
of
a
license
or
a
new
license
being
issued,
they
have
to
notify
the
legislative
authority
of
the
municipalities,
so
City
Council
knows
every
time
that
takes
place.
The
transfer
at
my
office
is
noted.
Whenever
liquor
control
asked
me
the
date
of
annexation
of
a
certain
address,
and
then
that's
the
only
thing.
I
know
that
license
could
be
going
there
for
safekeeping
for
up
to
a
year,
because
you
have
to
use
it
within
a
year.
B
B
Another
thing
I
discovered
along
the
way,
was,
if
you
have
an
existing
license
and
you
ask
to
expand
the
service
areas
such
as
brownies,
that
does
not
take
notification
of
the
legislative
authority.
You
can
expand
your
service
area
and
Liquor
Control.
This
comes
and
looks
at
it
and
says:
okay,
they're
not
required
by
law
to
notify
Council.
So
that's
how
the
initial
license
that
bronies,
for
example,
was
just
for
inside
and
lyft
control
at
the
end
of
April
approve,
first
floor
basement
and
patio
without
notifying.
B
B
B
Same
time,
I
was
approving
bronies
permit
and
making
sure
they
were
at
least
200
feet
away
from
an
r1
and
r2
zone.
That's
when
I
saw
the
transfer
for
this
particular
property.
Last
week,
I
talked
to
mr.
Tom
Tibet
who's.
The
holder
of
that
license
and
informed
him
that,
if
he
was
prepared
proposing
to
establish,
were
to
actually
operate
under
his
liquor
license
that
location.
He
would
ask
have
to
ask
the
board's
own
appeals
for
variance
because
the
sweeps
of
200
feet
out
from
that
property
does
hit
an
r1
zone.
B
It
may
only
hit
one
residential
house
a
lot
of
it
hits
parking,
lots
and
hillsides.
The
ordinance
says
the
distance
from
the
principal
building
to
his
own
line
doesn't
say
for
building
the
building
anything
like
that,
so
that
business
will
not
be
able
to
be
established
there
without
a
variance
from
that
200
foot
requirement
separation
requirement
by
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals.
Mr.
de
Becque
knows
that.
A
Well,
he
has
a
little
signs
out
front,
saying
oil
change
and
we
hang
we
attached
trailers
and
he
has
another
one
and
he
has
some
placed
and
it
looks
better.
It's
painted
that
maybe
but
gets
in
place
like
this
is
what
the
business
we're
gonna
do
before
you
go
to
look
in
and
see
where
the
papers
have
been
written
now.
Did
it
obvious?
Was
my
garage
I
think
it's
something
that
should
be
watched
carefully
watching.
B
B
A
As
I
said
before
at
some
point,
when
I
first
went
on
here,
I
think
I
was
told
about
procedures,
operational
procedures,
and
that
was
the
one
thing
I
was
told
now.
I
do
not
I
can't
find
anything
written
down
about
it,
but
but
that
this
was
one
of
the
we
met
on
a
certain
day
at
a
certain
time
and
that
that's
the
agenda
was
he
couldn't
be
on
the
agenda
unless
you've
got
different
jails
and
by
that
that
time,
so.
A
C
B
D
B
Available
in
advance,
we'd
have
to
go
talk
to
Bob
and
there's
no
telling
how
soon
before
that,
in
the
case
of
the
city,
sometimes
we
have
things
that
need
a
lot
more
than
a
week
to
be
reviewed
if
it
needs
to
go
to
staff
some
recommendation
or
something
like
that.
So
if
the
seven
days,
that's
what
you
want
to
go
with
I'll
use
that
as
a
guideline
some
things.
B
That
they're
very
simple
kinds
of
issues
that
don't
need
much
explanation,
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
I
guess.
Essentially,
then
we
can
set
the
agenda
seven
days
in
advance
of
the
meeting
because
Melissa
and
I
normally,
where
we're
conferring
right
up
to
tread
it
over
to
the
Friday
before
the
meeting
now
we'll
be
back
in
into
the
middle
of
the
week,
setting
the
agenda.
So
it
should
be
known
and
be
able
to
be
published
a
week
in
advance
five
days
in
advance,
at
least
as.
A
Long
as
people
know
that-
and
this
is
what
was
I
know
when
I
first
came
on-
that
it
was
that's
all
it
was,
and
if
you
will,
you
came
in
on
Friday
morning
and
they
don't
care
who
were
and
what
project
you
had
and
how
much
money
it
is
it
had.
We
had
been
follow
that
regulation,
so
everybody
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it
and
to
really
get
consideration.
I,
don't
think
that
said,
I
don't
think
that's
not
unreasonable
for
us,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
that
happened
it's
a
formalised.
C
A
C
C
A
C
One
item
in
my
over
hat:
oh
I'm,
at
the
stage
now
and
looking
for
a
city
planner
that
I
scheduled
two
candidates
in
for
interviews,
part
of
that
interview
process
will
be
7:00
p.m.
presentation
where
I
would
introduce
them
to
the
community.
They
would
make
a
presentation
about
planning
in
their
concepts.
Then
they
open
space-time
of
where
the
public
could
ask
them
questions.
Those
are
scheduled
right
now
for
Friday
July
28th
at
7
p.m.
and
Monday
August
31st.
C
A
C
A
D
C
D
C
D
D
B
E
B
A
C
C
Wouldn't
be
the
back
of
the
buildings
or
digits
it
would
be.
The
Builder
hits
still
to
be
three
like
the
one
building
it
faces
on
the
Heritage
dream.
We
are
going
to
require
anything
there
and
I
would
get
an
idea
of
how
many
square
foot
they
would
try
to
do
with
that,
because
I
would
assume
you're
going
to
have
rental
management
offices
and
sales
things
I
mean
there's
going
to
be
other
commercial
space.
It's
probably
going
to
be
in
that
area.
G
G
C
A
Whatever
thing
is
in
the
b3
in
Uptown,
we
never
said-
and
this
was
a
thing
we
had
this
with
several
groups-
I
never
agreed
that
I
never
fight
her
back
to
built.
Your
back
building
should
have
had
commercial
on
the
bridge,
but
I
never
agreed
with
that,
because
it's
only
the
part
of
the
first
floor
that
fronts
on
the
Main
Street,
which
is
when
people
turn
those
into
apartments
and
face
sleek.
A
They
become
slums
in
many
cities,
and
this
was
put
into
effect
so
that
people
when
they
were
trying
to
have
so
many
students
and
and
the
easiest
thing
uptown
as
it
says,
when
there's
no,
they
can't
get
a
business
in
here,
we'll
make
it
we'll
make
it
into
a
place
to
live,
and
you
see
what
the
kids
put
in
the
windows
and
it
looks
like
a
slum
so
that
the
code
says
you
part
the
face
is
on
now.
I
know:
Alan,
Bowles
Berry
has
a
property
there.
A
It
has
an
apartment
in
the
back
part
of
the
building.
The
front
of
it
is
commercial
and
there
used
to
be
I.
Think
it's
lucky.
It's
one
of
those
along
there
had
an
apartment,
it's
not
lucky!
It's
it's!
One
of
those
might
not
want
to
burn
down
or
sunny,
but
there
used
to
be.
They
have
business
in
the
front.