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B
C
A
We
have
to
buy
new
equipment
here,
so
I
can
not
trouble
right
good
afternoon.
This
is
the
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
the
essence
to
be
Planning
Commission
for
July
19th
2007.
We
have
three
members
present
mayor,
Abel
and
mr.
Hazlett
are
both
in
another
meeting
at
the
moment,
but
we
do
have
three
people
present.
A
A
A
A
A
B
A
A
A
E
A
C
B
A
C
E
A
Says
certified
letter
all
right
anyway,
what
we
were
doing
is
going
through
the
other.
We've
skipped
over
a
little
bit
here
if
the
site
plan
review,
because
it's
the
longest
thing
these
communications
and
we're
going
through
the
other
communications
we
have
in
here,
rented
these
bonds
get
posted.
Would
you
have
that
reflected?
They
arrived.
C
A
A
C
C
A
And
then
we
in
our
file
we
this
week
I
this
I
got
the
mail.
This
we
have
this
resolution
requesting
the
Planning
Commission
to
consider
amending
table
B
off
street
parking
requirements
and
the
zoning
code,
this
is
table,
be
required.
Parking
spaces
for
rental
units
shall
be
provided
to
the
Canada's
part
of
the
rental
fee.
The
Landlord
shall
not
charge
a
separate
fee
for
required
parking
spaces,
and
neither
land
nor
nor
their
tenant
shall
be
permitted
to
sublease
these
rental
parking
spaces,
which
shall
be
allocated
exclusively
to
the
rental
units
they
wanted.
A
Our
input
on
this
I
was
in
my
hat.
If
some
of
you
know,
I
live
right
in
Central,
City
and
I've
got
students
and
something
about
the
house
next
door
for
their
son
and
he's
moved
away
and
he's
been
running
it
up
and
they
didn't
know
I
can
hear
them.
This
is
my
best.
My
family
room
I
like
no
here's
his
telling
them
about
this
garage
and
I
wonder
why
they
never
never
that
nobody
ever
uses
a
garage
in
that
at
that
house.
A
They
park
on
the
street
or
in
the
driveway,
and
it's
got
an
automatic
door
and
all
kind
of
stuff
and
I
heard
him
say
to
the
fellow
well.
If
you
want
to
use
the
garage,
you
have
to
be
I
think
he
said
forty
dollars
a
month.
It's
forty
dollars,
not
extra
I,
couldn't
quite
hear
the
amount
that
I
swear.
It
was
forty
dollars
a
month.
B
A
G
A
G
To
me
that
we're
saying
that
neither
the
landlord
or
the
tenant
can
sublease
the
apartment,
thanks
I
lose
the
apartment
you
can
sublease
enough
parking.
So
it
seems
to
me
is
that
the
other
question
I
will
have
eventually
for
the
kodos
how
the
world
will
enforce
this,
because
we
don't
get
the
leases,
complaints.
G
B
G
A
Live
in
an
apartment
like
that,
you
know
for
years
since
I
first
got
married
and
then
back
in
those
days
and
the
apartments
there,
it
was
brand-new
apartments.
That
was
not
in
Ansan.
We
could
not
sublet
let
those
apartments
and
it
did
have
parking
with
it,
which
went
with
it
and
I
think
there
were
some
cover
apartments
but
that
they
didn't
have
enough.
A
C
A
A
B
D
G
A
G
G
B
A
D
D
D
A
A
B
A
G
B
A
A
A
D
A
E
G
A
A
Something
like
you
didn't
do
this,
but
I
have
this
thing
about
when
people
do
drafts
and
things
if
they
don't
date
them
they
don't
say
who
did
it
and
they
don't
put
a
number
on
the
page,
because
if
you
want
to
go
through
it,
you
need
to
know
what
what
Cawood,
what
we're
doing
so
anyway.
So
I,
remember
the
monk
and.
A
A
A
B
G
All
of
it
was
the
discussion
I
was
at
was
the
chamber
and
others
wanted
to
say.
Well,
what
is
gonna
be
the
cost
of
this
and
I
think
they
just
put
a
hundred
on
because
there
was
originally
their
intent
was
to
look
at
it
from
the
standpoint
of
once.
We
have
it
finally
drafted
and
everything.
It
really
should
be
tied
to
the
review
time
that
paid
staff
are
going
to
do
to
really
determine
the
fee,
but
the
feeling
expressed
at
the
meeting
I
was
at.
It
resulted.
D
B
H
B
D
A
D
C
B
H
B
A
When
that
I
had
that
was
my
question
after
the
up
above
and
see
it
says
within
15
business
days
and
the
date
the
city
officials
have
to
give
a
report.
Now,
our
our
15
days
at
15
days
after
the
city
officials
report
or
15
days
after
it's
completed
us.
What
I'd
like
to
know
I
have
a
question
on
both
of
those
15
days.
What
are
those
applied
to.
B
B
D
G
D
G
A
G
A
D
A
Then
you
say,
then
it
says:
department,
head
someplace.
Is
that
what
you
mean
any
other
official
or
department
with?
What
do
you
show
for
a
copy
of
the
application
to
other
city
departments
as
deemed
necessary?
And
then
you
come
down
to
the
next
sentence
as
a
service
director
and
any
other
any
other
city
official
shall
review
I.
C
G
A
A
G
A
B
D
B
I'm
I'm
gonna
do
a
building
and
like
if
I,
give
all
this
stuff
to
Ray
and
he
passes
it
around.
Everybody
needs
to
review
it
and
all
of
the
requirements
are
in
and
he
stamps
it
stamps
it
complete,
and
at
that
point
the
15
days
for
the
Planning
Commission
comes
into
play
right
and
we
have
stamped
it
complete.
G
B
G
B
G
C
It
can
have,
it
has
to
have
all
the
appropriate
plans
on
there.
Then,
once
it's
at
that
point,
you
determined
that
it
has
a
complete
set
of
plans,
as
submitted
at
that
point.
That
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
each
one
of
those
plans
has
been
approved
there
may
be.
There
may
be
some
additional
changes
that
need
to
be
done.
Then,.
A
B
A
This
says
what
they're
saying
they
here
in
15
days:
they
have
to
do
a
written
report
and
they
could
have
their
thing
and
have
all
their
meetings
and
they've
agreed
on
this.
But
the
15
days
does
not
apply
that.
It
applies
to
the
fact
that
if
you
have
a
written
piece
of
paper,
so
that's
I
think
that
is
a
and.
D
D
A
G
A
A
A
G
A
G
All
right,
no,
it
says
no
permit
for
the
construction
of
the
new,
but
if
you
look
at
the
restrictions,
4102
a.m.
no
Procrit
for
the
construction
of
a
new
building
shall
be
given,
accept
and
conform
to
you
with
a
site
plan
approved
in
accordance
with
this
chapter
period.
So
that
means
every
building.
That's
new
constructed
is
what
their
it
is.
But
when
you
get
down
to
the
exceptions,
one
and
two
family
residential
dwelling
in
bank
accessory
buildings
are
exempt.
B
G
That,
whether
you're
included
well,
that's
one
of
the
things
that
council
has
asked
us
to
do
is
using
the
GIS
system
and
I've
talked
to
over
heard
about
because
are
aware
it
where
our
are
ones
with
relationships
say
to
the
bees
owns.
Well,
the
north
guess
it's
one
side
of
Simpson
Avenue.
We
accept
you
to
these
regulations
the
other
side
where
they
needs
one
side
of
Richland
Avenue
would
be
subject
to
the
regulations.
The
other
side,
wouldn't
almost
it's
entirely
a
State.
G
F
G
G
A
G
G
G
Think
there's
I'd
have
to
look
at
that
again,
but
anyway,
they're
trying
to
figure
out
a
program
or
what,
if
the
statement
to
try
to
do
that,
and
can
we
modify
it
further
because
the
Chamber's
ask
if
the
building
is
only
in
cases
where
the
building
I
think
is
greater
than
five
thousand
square
feet?
Ten
thousand
I
don't
think
we'll
find
too
many
under
the
right
adjacent
to
the
are
lines.
G
It's
effects,
but
if
you
walk
down
through
first
the
restrictions,
then
you
have
to
take
the
restriction.
Then
you
have
all
these
specific
exemptions
from
site
plan
review
A
through
G,
with
D
being
probably
one
of
the
key
ones.
It
has
three
sections
which
really
talks
about
expansion.
Are
they
all
right
if
the
square
footage
of
the
building
or
the
remodeling,
I
guess
and
then
the
r-1
and
then
the
five
parking
spaces?
Oh.
B
I've
got
one
other
question
about
that.
That
section
e
that
we're
just
talking
about
the
last
sentence
says
such
a
petition
shall
be
presented
to
the
court
within
30
days
after
the
mailing
of
the
Planning
Commission's
decision
to
the
applicant
I
think
it
should
say
the
Planning
Commission
decision
on
the
applicants
appeal
because
otherwise
you're
talking
going
back
to
the
first.
D
A
I
always
have
it
in
that
one
I
always
have
a
trouble
with
it
when
they
talked
about
I.
Never
can
I
find
this
hard
to
follow
that
within
ten
days
and
any
person
or
persons
jointly
or
severally
aggrieved
by
any
decision
of
the
Planning
Commission,
and
then
they
go
on
to
say
or
any
resident
or
any
officer
department
of
appointed
body.
Then
this
valley
may
present
to
the
Evans
kind
of
Court
of
Common
Pleas
of
dick
and.
B
A
G
A
To
spell
it
out
to
us,
I
mean
it's
a
little,
it's
confusing
to
a
person
who
doesn't
know
anything
about
it,
but
both
of
those
sections
are
almost
exactly
the
same,
and
so
any
revisions
to
one
in
about
things
of
that
nature
or
about
the
mailing
of
the
decision,
and
that
sort
of
thing
should
be
the
same.
The
language
should
be
the
same
in
those
two
things.
B
B
Does
a
single
site
have
to
have
a
sign
while
the
rest
of
it
can
be
done
by
legal
advertising?
That
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
and
what
I
would
like
to
request
is
that
if
we
still
belong
to
the
Municipal
League,
that
we
contacted
meanness
believe
and
asked
them,
if
there's
any
municipality,
that
does
this
for
site
reviews,
and
if
so,
could
we
see
a
copy
of
our
dancing.
D
B
A
A
D
G
B
D
B
G
G
D
A
A
B
B
A
B
A
I
had
that
whole
thing
with
the
question,
I
didn't
think
it
was
clear.
Well,
I,
know
this
section.
Yes,
this
is
a
section
where
they
on
this
forty
109.
They
start
at
the
top
and
they
tell
you
all
these
things
and
you
list
them.
And
then
you
go
down
here
and
that's
it.
Then
they
have
them
listed
here
and
then
they
go
down
here
with
ABCD
and
they
list
them
again.
A
B
I'd
like
to
know
now,
you're
gonna
require
a
traffic
impact
study
at
the
head
of
time.
How
you're
going
to
predict
that
something
will
generate
more
than
a
hundred
new
behavior,
very
directional
trips
without
a
traffic
study,
and
if
you're
going
to
do
a
traffic
study
who
pays
for
it?
And
when
are
you
going
to
do
it
for
how
long?
Because
a
traffic
study
for
July
and
August
is
not
going
to
be
the
same
thing
around
September
and
October
mom
and
I.
B
G
I
asked
that
question
and
councillor
Phelps
said
there
is
and
I
think
it
was
this
civil
engineering
handbook.
She
gave
me
a
reference
and
I
haven't,
looked
it
up
yet
that
different
types
of
business
based
upon
square
footage
and
such
having
somebody's
made
an
estimate
of
how
many
trips
per
day,
unless.
F
A
B
B
D
G
B
A
Manner,
fear,
you
know,
but
if
they
do,
they
don't
mean
they
mean
major
changes
because
there's
another
C,
it
says
all
proposed
changes
shall
be
acted,
fine
in
the
same
manner
as
a
new
site
plan.
But
you
talk
about
minor
changes
first
and
then
you
you're
talking
about
major,
but
there
you
say
all
changes.
Do
you
mean
all
changes
or
just
major
I
think
they
made
major
changes
and
I?
Think
that
should
be
in
there,
because
somebody
can
pick
up
on
that.
A
picky
person.
B
D
A
B
A
A
It
just
says
signage
all
right,
so
if
you're
gonna
change
your
site,
wait
is
that
this
is
it's
a
size
or
the
sign.
There's
a
there
are
two
different
things:
there's
a
size
of
the
sign
and
in
like
it
could
have
flashing
lights
and
rolling
stuff
that
I
dunno.
That's
everything
so
I
mean.
Do
you
really?
Is
it
only
the
reduction
in
the
size
of
the
sign?
That's
a
change,
or
is
it
the.
A
I
just
wonder
if
it's
all
aspects,
I
don't
mean
if
he
had
yellow
you're
gonna
meant
red,
but
certainly
in
the
sense,
we're
worrying
about
where
we
want
to
go
through
the
sign,
ordinance
and
the
bank
down
here.
That
wants
to
be
able
to
flash
their
little
pictures
all
the
time
now.
Maybe
this
place
wants
to
flash
little
pictures
all
the
time
where
they
don't
want
to
flash
their
pictures.
All
the
time.
B
A
B
A
They
just
do
that
all
in
one
thing
and
then
down
here
and
then
they
say
and
other
things
and
do
one
two
three
when
actually
they're
listening
a
bunch
of
things
in
there
that
some
of
them
are
related
to
each
other.
With
some
are
not
I
mean
you
have
size
and
location
structures
at
something
off
street
loading
areas
and
another
thing
pools
decks
net.
A
So
I
would
suggest
that
that,
if
you're
going
to
list
under
and
other
improvements
and
I
think
that
should
be
explained
as
under
that
is
ABCD
or
something
that
all
of
those
things
should
be
listed.
Just
don't
do
the
so
you
can
look
at
it
and
know
this
is
what
we're
talking
about
we're
not
talking
about
this
lump.
A
A
B
A
Know
he
can
that
thing.
I
41-point
o9f
is
another
one
where
they'd
lump
everything
and
one
lump,
and
instead
of
dividing
it
up
such
a
little
easier
to
follow.
Other
places
are
in
that
whole
thing,
but
that's
another
one
thing
that
I
can
but
I.
Don't
that's
the
other
question.
Did
anyone
have
a
wish
to
express
an
opinion
on
it?
Well,.
G
A
G
G
C
G
E
A
E
E
E
D
H
E
E
B
E
A
Talks
about
bond
and
stuff,
but
it
from
the
page
before
us.
What
is
what
it
says
and
then
I
wonder
if
they
left
out
something
there
which
talks
about
that
was
left
now
that
was
standards
for
me.
You
know
it
looks
like
there's
a
section
missing,
and
then
this
is
kind
of
a
standard
thing
on
performance
bonds
and
all
that
sort
of
thing
well,.
A
A
H
G
A
E
E
G
If
you're
doing
an
expansion,
you
would,
if
you're
just
doing
renovating
25%
of
the
square
footage
or
more
than
that,
then
your
site
plan
doesn't
change.
It's
just
the
interior.
That
changes
same
thing
when
you
do
the
exterior
alteration.
Usually
your
site
plan
doesn't
change,
because,
if
you're
not
adding
square
footage
to
the
building,
that's
just
an
exterior
alteration
that
and
they've
never
defined
exterior
alteration
in
this
I.
Don't
know
what
it
is.
B
Seems
to
me
one
thing
that
should
be
done
this:
to
do
up
to
a
attached
to
this
parts
that
have
a
section
with
the
checklist
and
have
a
checklist
for
existing
structures
and
remodeling
existing
structures
and
the
checklist
for
new
structures,
and
they
should
be
pretty
much
the
same
until
you
get
to
the
things
that
would
be
brand
new.
If
you
were
putting
a
building
on
the
site
that
Mantha.
B
B
And
what
I'm
saying
is,
if
you
look
at
that,
if
you've
got
say
the
potential
of
say,
a
dozen
new
projects
coming
to
us,
you're
going
to
have
the
potential
of
maybe
six
of
those
not
liking
our
decisions
and
coming
back.
So
that's
the
potential
of
18,
more
cases
coming
to
us
Plus
coming
on
a
15
day
timeline.
A
C
It
does
I
mean
in
terms
of
what's
going
to
be
covered
by
the
existing
titles.
In
the
thing
that's
going
to
happen
here
is
that
between
now
and
the
first
week
of
October,
Steve
and
I
will
have
to
write
an
Administrative
Procedure
that
will
tie
41
into
21
25
23
27,
so
that
not
only
will
people
who
come
to
us
be
able
to
figure
out
what
they're
supposed
to
do.
A
As
if
I
understand
correctly,
this
was
not
submitted
to
us
for
review.
For
today
we
were
just
received
it
and
so
we're
discussing
it
because
of
interest
is
with
flank
invasion,
members
and
citizens.
I,
if
you
did
you
see
it's
the
second
readings
already
been
done
well,
I'm
concerned
about
having
readings
and
getting
it
close
to
being
adopted
when
it
really
isn't
in
very
good
shape.
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
problems
with
this
I.
Don't
know,
I
have
no
authority
to
do
anything
about
that.
I,
don't
believe
it.
D
A
B
If
you
have
a
lot
and
you're
already
bounded
by
zoning
restrictions
and
you're
already
bounded
by
the
you
know,
traffic
constraints
that
we
have
and
so
on.
This
is
another
layer
that
you
have
to
go
through
potentially
twice
to
the
planning
committee
and
the
Commission
and
once
to
the
court.
If
you
don't
like
the
answers
and
I
think
it's
it
takes
more
than
just
saying.
This
is
not
to
discourage
business
in
the
preamble,
then
to
make
that
true.
A
A
D
F
Payment,
the
Athens
Area
Chamber
of
Commerce.
We
have
some
concerns
about
the
potential
long
process
involve
similar.
What
papers
was
talking
about
is
that
if
the
last
council
meeting
first
council
meanness
came
up,
Mike
no
I
think
a
good
example
considering
if
people
do
want
certain
types
of
development
that
in
the
real
world
of
business,
there
are
some
fast
timelines
and
we're
not
saying
make
hasty
decisions,
but
there
needs
to
be
a
conceptional
process
involved
somewhere.
The
developer
can
come
before
the
Planning
Commission
say
we
have
this
idea.
F
If
we
meet
all
the
rules
on
the
site
plan
review
will
our
project
they
approve
right.
Now
you
have
to
go
through
all
these
steps,
there's
no
guarantee
that
it
would
be
approved
on
some
exception.
Ships
here
and
I
think
the
example
at
the
County
engineer's
office
was
a
perfect
one
there,
where
he
gave
the
idea
that
when
that
you
tore
down
an
old
building
that
was
really
kind
of
an
eyesore
and
then
right.
F
Know
mr.
Geryon
doesn't
agree
with
this.
The
the
project
does
look
better
now,
but
cvs/pharmacy,
for
instance,
had
to
make
a
decision
within
30
days
we're
they
going
to
stay
at
the
Athens
center
or
moved
into
this.
So
Mike
was
able
to
go
through
administrative
Lee,
again
pigley.
He
was
like
that
fine
and
got
a
determination.
Yes,
the
project
could
proceed
if
he
got
to
wait
five
or
six
months,
it
never
would
have
happened.
So
that's
an
issue,
but
one
of
the
other
big
concerns
we
have
is
the
impact
on
small
businesses.
F
Now
we
had
meetings,
it
was
discussed
of
20,000
square
foot,
10,000
square
foot,
zero
exemptions.
We
would
strongly
urge
the
planning
mission
to
suggest
a
10,000
square-foot
exemption
for
new
construction,
because,
whether
its
intended
or
not,
this
process
now
with
favor,
had
a
town
developers
with
large
finances.
A
small
local
developer
would
have
a
hard
time
going
through
this
process.
Let
alone
understand
it
like
you
said
that
it
would
be
very
difficult
for
a
small
business
to
go
through
this
process
as
proposed.
Thank
you
give.
A
F
Most
your
projects
would
be
under
ten
thousand.
You
know
like
a
max
fifty
store.
For
instance,
you
know
that
would
be
very
difficult
for
a
local
person
to
build
now
under
this
proposal.
I
know
there's
when
you
get
to
a
retail
store,
you're
looking
at
maybe
two
to
four
thousand
square
feet,
but
anything
under
ten
I
think
would
would
probably
Steve
that
we
talked
that's.
This
wouldn't
be
like
eighty
to
ninety
percent
of
local
projects
and
in
the
last
ten
years
when
we
went
through
the
list
or
under
ten
thousand
square
feet,.
H
F
Obviously
so
the
larger
ones
would
be
going
through
the
process,
but
smaller
ones
that
we
just
with
urged
when
we've
urged
counsel
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
that
that's,
it
was
a
great
opponent.
Their
suggestion
is
that
we
need
to
think
about
small
look.
Small
local
businesses
not
stifle
that
development.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
seeing
I.
Don't
I
would
think
that
if
you
were
going
to
have
a
piece
of
property
like
that
engineers
I,
don't
like
that
idea
of
putting
all
those
pieces
of
things
on
that
one
piece
of
property
and
I
see
the
issues
just
stayed
where
it
was
because
it
was
easier
for
me
to
get
in
and
out
and
that's
where
I
get
my
prescriptions
filled,
but
I
mean
I
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
input.