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Athens Planning Commission March 4, 2021
A
A
A
A
Okay,
do
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
as
they
stand
pending
minus
that
one
correction,
I
know
I
shouldn't
approve.
I
will
take
chief
tom
pyles
as
the
motion
and
austin
phillips
I'll
take
yours
a
second,
because
he
had
his
hand
raised
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye
aye
opposed
same
sign
all
right.
The
minutes
are
approved
from
february
18th.
A
A
I
do.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
We
do
not
have
any
cases,
but
we
do
have
two
communications
and
I
believe
it
is
woda
that
will
be
speaking
on
behalf
of
both
of
these
cases
today.
So
the
first
I'm
sorry
communication.
So
the
first
communication
is
title:
41,
the
crenshaw
green
apartments
and
everyone
should
have
received
attachments
on
those,
but
I
guess
I'll
start
with
david
riggs,
david
or
paul
logue.
If
you
would
like
to
speak
to
this
and
then
turn
it
over
to
woda
to
speak
on
these.
B
C
C
E
A
C
C
C
C
C
C
A
C
C
C
So
that's
really
the
presentation
we,
you
know
we're
we're
hoping
that
we
can
move
forward
and
get
obviously
site
plan
approval
or
and
etc,
and
just
work
through
the
process
here
and
I
have,
as
joe
berning
said,
the
architect,
pci
design
group,
chuck,
garvick,
jaden
engineering
and
ann
little
from
wood.
Also
we're
all
on
the
call
for
questions.
C
H
G
E
H
Trying
to
get
out
of
our
neighborhood
onto
682
is
pretty
challenging,
so
I
just
didn't
know
if
you
guys
had
thought
about
just
traffic
and
trying
to
get
on
that
road
when
everyone
seems
to
come
into
town
that
way
and
I'm
and
I'm
new
to
the
planning
commission.
So
let
me
know
if
that's
not
something
we
discuss
here,
but
that's
one
thing
that
comes
to
mind
is
just.
C
Traffic,
well,
that's
kind
of
why
we're
on
kershaw
2.
The
entrance
is
off
the
side
road
here
to
alleviate
some
of
that,
just
turning
straight
on
to
the
rather
coming
off
a
side.
Street
we've
looked
at
traffic
and
all
the
zoning-
and
you
know
your
requirements
there
and
have
designed
accordingly
to
those
so
yeah
we've
looked
at
it.
We
feel
pretty
comfortable
with
it.
You
know
all
the
residents
that
live
here
in
both
of
these
communities.
C
They
will
not
be
coming
and
going
all
at
the
same
times,
etc
and
historically
most
traffic
reports.
Analysts
will
tell
you
that
you
know:
multi-family
apartment
communities
have
a
lot
less
traffic
movements
than
even
like
a
little
gas
station,
or
something
like
that.
So
yeah
we're
pretty
comfortable
with
that.
But
you
live
there.
So
you
know
a
little
bit
better
than
I
do
standing
here.
So.
H
C
F
F
C
A
Okay,
the
other
question
I
had-
and
I
think
mr
simons
you
mentioned
this-
and
it
was
that
three-story
walk-ups
and
by
that
are
there
will
not.
There
is
no
elevator
associated
with
either
of
these
developments
and
therefore
my
question
becomes,
you
know,
ada
or
universally
designed
units
they
would
be
at
on
the
first
floor
first
level,
or
is
that
part
of
the
plan.
C
A
A
A
E
Mayor
patterson
on
planning
commission,
just
just
so
you're
aware
the
the
the
wota
representatives
from
woda
have
met
periodically
in
the
fall
with
both
members
of
the
affordable
housing,
commission
and
the
disabilities
commission
to
talk
in
more
detail
about
both
of
those
issues.
Of
course,
this
is
a
ohio,
housing,
finance
agency
tax
credit
project
for,
for
you
know,
income
with
an
income
test
for
availability
to
occupy
these
units
in
both
the
affordable
housing,
commission
and
disabilities.
E
They
were
receptive
to
comments
from
both
of
them
and
I
believe,
with
the
dis
with
ada
issues
in
the
apartments
they
were.
I
don't
want
to
speak
on
behalf
of
that
commission,
but
they
were
pleased
with
my
my
take
was
that
they
were
very
satisfied
with
what
they
were,
what
they
were
showing
and
the
recommendations
that
came
out
of
that.
So.
A
Wonderful,
thank
you
paul.
I
I
do
have
one
more
question
and
again
I
it's
something
that
I
don't
ever
recall.
Having
to
look
at
or
address
is
with
both
of
these
developments.
You
know
backing
up
to
the
the
pond.
Will
there
be?
Is
there
a
need
for
some
type
of
fencing
to
go
along
there,
since
there
will
be
potentially
families
living
in
there
who
could
have
young
children
again?
I
don't
know
that
we
I'd
need
to
defer
to
or
both
city
planner
and
code
enforcement
with
david
riggs.
C
The
land
seller
that
we're
purchasing
these
lots
from
will
still
have
control
of
that.
So
I
don't
know
what
you
know
if
we
could
ask
them
to
put
a
fence
up
or
require
that
I
I
understand
your
concern.
We've
talked
about
it
internally
and
we
decided
you
know
if
it
was
an
issue,
we
probably
would
approach
them,
etc,
but
yeah
we.
We
have
also
talked
about
that
and
appreciate
the
concern.
So
let
us
know
what
your
thoughts
are.
There.
A
Yeah,
it's
just
something
that
literally
has
popped
into
my
head.
So
I'm
glad
that
you
have
had
that
conversation
and
that
you've
discussed
it
internally
and
you
know-
and
you
you
you've
been
doing
this
for
a
long
time.
So
I
I
would
defer
to
the
developer
in
terms
of
if
you
feel
there
needs
to
be
some
level
of
protection.
But
again
since
there
isn't
anything
in
code-
and
I
don't
remember
the
last
time
we
had
a
development
near
any
type
of
water.
B
Mayor,
I
wanted
to
just
discuss
a
couple
of
things
with
you
and
the
commission
here
there
with
regards
to
traffic
on
south
plains.
Road
state
route,
682
we
did
ask-
and
I
think
they
did
provide
odot-
did
provide
a
traffic
analysis
for
the
entrance
on
the
kershaw
green
site
and
their
analysis
showed
that
no
turn
lanes
were
would
be
needed,
but
they
did
recommend
that
that
the
developer
adjust
the
angle
of
that
driveway
a
little
bit
to
make
it
more
safe.
B
I
also
had
one
other
comment
that
came
from
odot
regarding
the
kershaw
green
site
looks
like
there's
a
little
triangle
and
we
just
need
to
clear
it
up.
That's
located
at
the
it's
actually
part
of
the
old
hope
farm.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
get
to,
but
there's
a
little
piece.
It's
actually
not
not
on
this
property.
B
Let
me
pull
it
up
here,
christopher
and
dorothy
pilos,
I
think,
are
the
property
owners
and
you
can
see
down
there
in
the
corner
right
there.
That
little
triangle
is
actually
in
the
prescriptive
easement,
but
is
off
site.
So,
oh,
don't
ask
for
that
that
we
clear
that
up.
Are
you
talking
right
here?
Yes,
yes,
sir
okay,
so
that's
just
a
that's
just
a
minor
thing.
B
We
didn't
have
any
comments
from
code.
There
were
some
comments
from
engineering
building,
some
suggestions
from
police
and
some
comments
from
chief
reimer
or
fire
chief,
which
I
think
you've
addressed
almost
all
of
those
I'll
type,
those
up
and
get
them
to
everybody
for
the
comments,
but
the
primary
one
was
was
about
that
access.
I
wanted
to
clear
that
up
for
everybody,
the
only
the
only
other
comment
I
had
and
I'll
bring
it
up
here.
B
It's
it's,
of
course
up
to
the
planning
commission
whether
they
want
that
or
not,
but
we
have
a
prescriptive
easement
on
state
route
682
here.
I
would
recommend
that
we
at
some
time
along
this
process.
We
get
a
dedication
plot
to
to
dedicate
that
right
away
to
the
city,
since
we
on
both
sides
of
the
road.
Now
we
should
have
that
as
a
as
a
recorded
right
of
way,
rather
than
a
prescriptive
easement,
and
that's
all
I
had
thank
you
mayor
great.
A
So
I'm
going
to
go
back
just
briefly.
If
I
made
to
the
townships
road
and
you
made,
it
was
a
great
comment
that
you
know
it
is
township
the
township
that
will
be
responsible
for
maintenance
of
of
that
road.
Is
that
loric?
Is
that
what
it
is
right
there
so
lori,
which
also
includes
snow
removal?
So
I'm
just
sharing
that
with
woda,
so
that
you're,
aware
okay.
H
B
So
they
have,
this
is
david
riggs,
so
the
the
developer
has
provided
stormwater
calculations.
I
think
the
engineering
building
department
reviewed
that
there
are
two
detention
basins
to
the
north,
one
on
each
property
to
the
north
of
each
one
of
these
properties
that
will
provide
stormwater
retention
for
the
site.
We're
also
are
looking
at
some
best
management
practices
for
water
quality.
B
E
Yeah,
that's
that's
correct!
That's
actually,
depending
on
how
we're
looking
at,
I
believe
it's
on
the
west
there's
a
creek
back
there.
I
think
old,
factory
or
old
furnace
creek,
or
something
like
that.
It
doesn't
have
elevations
for
it.
It's
but
we've
been.
We've
been
working
with
the
developer
to
to
make
sure
that
they're
following
the
standards
on
that
it's
kind
of
a
unique
one,
because
we
were
reviewing
it.
E
Of
course
it
was
outside
the
city
limits
at
that
time,
and
so
that
creek
was
not
an
issue
for
for
us
from
a
regulatory
perspective.
Historically,
that
would
have
been
a
county
issue,
but
since
it's
coming
in
we've,
we
had
to
make
sure
that
it
was
meeting
our
standards
from
all
the
from
all
the
paperwork
we've
seen
so
far
in
the
site,
plan,
reviews
and
conversations
it.
I
fully
expect
this
will
be
meeting
our
our
flood
damage
prevention.
Chapter.
B
J
J
Okay,
so
could
you
tell
me,
does
the
storm
water
from
university
estates,
or
at
least
the
road
run
down
into
that
pond
and
the
coral?
The
next
question
is:
is
that
sometimes
a
problem
for
the
level
of
the
pond
I
mean?
I
know
it.
Wasn't
a
nice
chunk
in
a
piece
of
maureen,
because
this
is
on
glaciated.
So
I
guess
I'd
like
to
know
it's
artificial.
J
J
I'm
sorry
I'm
late,
I
had
a
a
scam
I
had
to
deal
with
at
the
last
minute,
but
and
be
that
as
it
may,
I
am
also
worried
about
a
little
bit
about
what
it's
going
to
look.
I
went
out
and
drove
down
there
and
thought.
Oh,
my
god,
what's
it
going
to
look
like
they're
awfully
close
to
the
road,
but
that's
just
me.
You
know
I
I
tend
to
think
of
title
41
as
being
a
time
for
citizens
as
a
citizen's
rep.
I
guess
those
are
the
things.
J
J
G
J
C
Sites
I
it's
hard
to
say
you
know
if
everyone
that
leases
there
doesn't
have
children,
I
don't
know
I
would
say
historically
from
our
portfolio,
there
would
probably
be
roughly
well,
you
know
I'd
be
guessing
at
this
point.
I'd
have
to
look
at
our
portfolio
and
get
a
percentage
of
children
in
our
units,
and
then
I
could
probably
give
you
a
better
educated
number.
J
J
A
E
Good
afternoon,
everybody
just
a
couple
items
to
report
this
afternoon,
the
first
of
which
may
be
of
interest
of
all
the
planning
commissioners,
but
we
do
have
a
the
completed
comprehensive
plan
in
its
glossier
format.
I
suppose
the
best
way
to
put
it
as
you'll
recall
the
the
version
that
was
approved
by
the
planning,
commission
and
city
council
late
last
year
was
a
text
only
document.
E
The
new.
The
this
version
has
all
of
the
exact
same
language
in
there
just
has
additional
graphics
and
charts
and
graphs
and
images,
and
all
that
I
will
be
uploading
that
to
the
city's
website
momentarily
this
afternoon
and
I'll
make
sure
to
provide
a
link
to
that
to
all
the
planning
commissioners
just
so
that
they
can
take
a
look
at
it
by
all
means.
If
anybody
has
questions
about
that
feel
free
to
reach
out
at
any
time
to
me,
I'm
happy
to
to
discuss
the
other
item.
E
To
for
your
information,
the
city's
historic
preservation
commission
will
be
meeting
on
monday
part
of
their
charge.
This
monday's
meeting
they'll
be
doing
a
historic
preservation
review
discussion
with
for
the
uptown
district,
with
respect
to
the
bagel
street
deli
expansion
into
what
was
mountain
laurel,
so
we've
been
working
with
the
ownership
of
bagel
street
deli
and
their
architect
to
make
sure
that
any
changes
that
they're
doing
meets
the
historic
preservation
standards
for
the
city.
That's
all
I
have
thank
you.
B
Hi
everybody-
this
is
david
riggs
again
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
we
do
have
a
potential
development.
That's
coming
in
the
900
block
of
east
state
street.
That
might
be
a
title
41
for
you
guys
to
review
in
the
future.
They
haven't
actually
submitted
anything
yet,
but
we've
been
in
discussion
with
them.
It's
gonna
be
a
commercial
commercial
building.
B
A
A
In
attendance,
okay,
announcements,
another
business-
our
next
meeting
is
going
to
be
march
18th
noon
on
march
18th.
I
I
do
want
to
to
share
with
everyone
that,
just
prior
to
that
regular
meeting,
there
will
be
a
public
meeting
for
the
biennial
community
development
implementation
strategy.
This
is
something
that
we
did
last
year
and
and
every
year
before
that,
when
it
comes
to
projects
that
are,
could
be
or
are
related
to
cdbg
funds.
A
If
you
remember
what
we
landed
on
in
2019
was
the
west
washington
and
the
shaffer
street
crosswalk
down
in
that
area
on
the
west
side
of
the
city,
so
I'll
be
kind
of
leaning
on
internally
on
the
city
planner
on
the
director
of
development
code
enforcement,
david
riggs
and
some
others.
But
this
is
a
community
engagement
event
where
people
can
listen
and
comment
on
areas
or
projects
that
we
do
see.
Citywide.
G
Okay,
let
me
ask
a
question
so
in
preparing
for
today's
meeting,
I
wanted
to
look
at
the
site
plans,
but
I
couldn't
where.
Where
would
I
find
those
online?
Do
I
have
to
go
to
the
city
website
or
I'm
sorry,
I've?
Just
I
you
know
I,
the
stuff
that
came
out
from
patty
was
just
an
application.
It
seemed
like
it
didn't
have
a
lot
of
it
looked
like
it
might
have
had
some
pavement
design
or
something,
but
I
didn't
see
the
the
the
full
site
plan
or
elevations
or
anything
like
that.
B
David
david
riggs
there
that
it
is,
it
was
on
the
link
there.
They
had
the
two
separate
links
and
there
was
a
whole
bunch
of
different
sections
in
there
that
you
could
go
to.
We
also
have
paper
copies
available
going
with.
It
makes
it
a
little
more
difficult
for
us
to
get
those
out
because
we're
doing
this
zoom
stuff.
But
if
you,
if
you
ever
need
a
paper
copy
of
those,
you
would
contact
our
office
and
we
can.
B
G
Yeah
one
thing:
I'm
particularly
interested
with
that
development
is
trying
to
better
understand
the
storm
water.
You
know
so
the
the
tension
ponds
to
the
west
or
are
there
do
they?
Do
they
end
up
percolating
down
into
the
ground
water,
or
do
they
spill
out
into
that
creek
and
you
know,
are
we
adding,
I
wasn't
sure
exactly,
but
I'd
like
to
look
at
some
of
the
detail
of
that
a
little
bit.
B
D
Hey
david
too,
this
is
scott.
We
can
work
with
you
on
the
getting
information
on
the
website
if
there's
a
better
way
to
do
it.
I
know
we
worked
with
carrie
on
how
the
zoning
board
packets
are
presented
on
the
website.
So
if
that's
something
we
need
to
do
for
planning
commission,
we
can
certainly
do
that
too.
A
G
There,
okay,
I'm
gonna,
try
to
get
back
in
there.
You
know
I'm
I'm
a
bit
technologically
challenged
so
I'll,
see
I'm
sure
it's
there
I'll
just
I
just
got
to
figure
it
out
and
I
and
if
I
have
to
I'll,
get
my
wife
to
help
me,
she
can
do
that.
But
let
me
let
me
get
back
into
that
and
david.
I
might
give
you
a
call
and
come
in
and
just
take
a
look
at
some
of
that
information
about
the
storm
water.
Then,
if
that's
okay,.