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A
B
C
D
So
with
that
said,
I'll
go
ahead
and
introduce
everyone
if
I
may
Jeff
Rennie
is
our
corporate
communications
consultant
Don
stemple
is
the
customer
services
account
manager,
mark
Gundel
finger
customer
services
manager,
Tim
Sai
Fang
is
district
manager,
Steve
Stanley
in
forestry,
Rob
Richardson,
it's
an
engineering
and
mark
Westfall
is
the
local
supervisor
here
in
Athens,
and
with
that
said,
Tim
syphon
will
give
a
presentation.
Now,
if
you
may,
thank
you
very
much.
C
E
It's
Stroud's
run,
which
is
up
with
Stroud,
run
the
Clark
substation,
which
is
over
on
Florida
Street
and
Elliott
substation,
which
is
on
Elliot's
bill
Road
kind
of
behind
the
ridges.
There
are
12
circuits
out
of
those
3
substations
that
serve
this
the
city
of
Athens
and
about
the
best
way
to
think
about
this
is
the
the
circuits
out
of
Strauss
run,
serve
the
east
and
northeast
part
of
the
city.
The
circuits
out
of
Clark
served
the
northwest
side
of
the
city
and
the
circuits
out
of
Eliot
served.
The
southern
part
of
the
city.
E
One
okay,
when
we
were
here,
we
had
some
plans
that
the
what
we
planned
to
do
to
make
the
reliability
better
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
we
completed
all
that
plus.
We
came
up
with
another,
a
few
more
things
to
do
as
well,
but
we
did.
We
replaced
a
station
feeder
breaker,
which
is
bait.
That
is
a
circuit
breaker.
It
senses
a
problem
opens
up,
tries
to
close
back
in
if
the
problems
going,
you
have
a
short
outage
like
a
minute
or
less,
but
you
don't
have
a
sustained
outage.
E
We
performed
inspection
repair
on
five
of
those
12
circuits.
We
cleared
approximately
56
miles
right
away.
We
replace
16
recloser
xandrie
closures
or
a
device
like
a
feeder
breaker.
It's
like
a
is
an
automatic
circuit
breaker
that
again
senses
a
problem
and
will
try
to
open
up
and
close
back
in,
and
it
only
hit
give
you
a
sustained
outage.
If
the
problem
is
permanent,
we
replaced
135
cutouts
and
cut
out
your
fuses.
There
are
a
one-time
item.
E
We
installed
20
lightning
and
what
they
do
there
device
is
that
if
we
take
a
lightning
strike
they
will
they
will
try
to
contain
that
energy
done,
damage
our
equipment
and
avoids
an
outage
for
the
customer,
and
we
installed
some
additional
sectional
izing
on
one
of
the
Stroud
circuit.
So
for
and
what
that
will
do
is.
Is
you
put
these
suction
lines
and
devices
on
there?
If
there
is
a
problem,
it
limits
it
to
the
fewest
number
of
customers
affected.
E
In
addition
to
that,
we
built
a
new
access
road
to
a
couple
of
the
circuits
on
Strauss
run,
and
these
two
circuits,
one
and
two
they
come
out
of
Stroud
run,
goes
straight
across
up
the
hill
through
the
woods,
come
back
down
on
East,
8th
Street
by
Don
wood,
automotive,
and
when
we
have
problems
up
there,
it
was
really
tough
to
get
to
so
we
have
this
road
built.
So
now,
if
there
is
a
problem,
we
can
get
our
equipment
up
there
and
shorten
the
duration
of
any
problem
that
would
be
up
there.
E
Now
this
shows
where
the
reliability
is
today
and
where
we're
at
for
the
city
of
Athens.
It's
one
point
seven,
and
so
what
that
means
is
the
average
customer
experience
a
little
less
than
two
outages
in
a
year's
time
and
compare
that
to
where
we
were
this
time
last
year,
a
little
less
than
three,
so
we
have
made
an
improvement
so
overall
Stroud's
run,
we've
seen,
we've
seen
an
improvement
in
that
reliability.
E
Clark
is
about
the
same,
but
it
was
performing
fairly
well.
This
time
last
year
as
well
and
Elliott,
we
have
seen
an
increased
number
of
incidents
on
Elliott,
there's
two
circuits
out
of
Elliott,
and
there
have
been
a
number
of
things
for
that,
but
the
probably
the
biggest
causes
we
had
some
animal
problems
in
the
station,
and
we
have
some
plans
to
do
some.
Some
things
to
address
that,
and
we
also
had
some
cold
load
problems.
E
E
So
what
do
we
have
planned
for
the
future?
We
have
the
animal
mitigation.
I
was
talking
about
Nellie
at
station.
What
that
is,
we
call
it
a
bus,
one-shot
if
an
animal
gets
in
the
bus
it'll
try
to
clear
that,
like
the
recloser
x'
and
the
feeder
breaker
I
was
telling
you
about
other
words,
will
open
up
and
try
to
close
back
in
95%
of
the
time
that
will
take
care
of
the
problem.
You
have
a
full-fledged
outage.
E
We
got
more
cut
out
replacements
scheduled
for
Straus
run.
We
have
inspection,
repairs,
plan
for
circuit
out
of
Stroud's
and
a
circuit
out
of
a
layout
we're
going
to
do
some
recloser
replacements
on
Elliott
and
Stroud's.
We
got
like
more
lightning
mitigation
plan
for
Elliott,
we're
doing
reek,
ordination
on
Elliott
and
what
that
is.
That
is
the
the
way
we
design
the
devices.
F
F
G
H
I,
one
of
the
areas
of
great
concern
for
members
of
council
were
the
frequent
outages
in
the
Uptown
area,
particularly
at
the
lower
end
of
court.
Street
and
I've
heard
that
you've
made
some
specific
upgrades
in
that
area.
Do
you
have
specific
information
about
that?
The
changes
they
are
in
in
terms
of
less
frequency
of
outages?
What.
I
E
That's
there
there
is,
there
really
is
no
capacity
issue.
You
know
if
we've
got
the
capacity
to
serve
what's
there.
If
somebody
comes
along
and
wants
to
add
more
capacity,
we
may
have
to
build
something
else,
but
we
do
that.
That's
what
we
do
so
we
just.
We
just
need
to
know
what
the
load
is
going
to
be
there
and,
if
you're,
adding
load,
we
need
to
know
about
it
so
that
we
can
size
our
equipment
appropriately.
F
E
It's
a
combination
of
both,
but
by
and
large
its
when
customers
call
us
and
say
I'm
out.
Well,
we
have.
We
have
programs
that
say:
ok,
we
know
where
the
next
protective
device
is,
and
these
were
the
customers
that
called
us
in
this
area.
So
we
can
project
that
it's
going
to
be
this
device
up
here.
So
that's
how
we
get
the
numbers
of
outages.
E
F
B
B
B
J
G
F
F
F
G
Can't
tell
you
specifically
where
all
the
properties
were
I
mean
we've
got.
We
have
lines
all
over
the
city
and
and
of
course,
we're
on
City
right
away,
we're
on
private
right
away
and
as
far
as
the
amount
of
trees,
I
could
go
back
and
go
through
records.
Maybe,
and
give
you
an
idea
of
how
many
trees
we
cut
or
cut
down
or
trimmed.
F
K
G
What
we
try
to
do
is
notify
the
customers
that
we're
coming
in
advance
and
it
could
be
anywhere
from
a
month
to
two
weeks
in
advance.
We
leave
door
hangers
that
explain
to
the
customer
what
we're
going
to
do
on
their
property
and,
of
course,
if
the
customers
home,
we
will,
you
know,
make
personal
contact
with
them.
Explain
the
work,
that's
to
be
done
and
then,
if
there's
any
questions
they
want
to
meet
with
me,
then
we
do
that.
F
G
I
mean
people,
people
do
complain
whether
it's
five
feet
or
20
feet,
but
we
we
like
to
get
at
least
20
feet
because
there's
a
lot
of
soft
growing
trees
in
town
that
grow
rapidly
and
a
lot
of
times.
We
won't
get
back
for
three
or
four
years
to
trim
that
tree
again.
So
you
know
we
have.
We
have
a
lot
of
right
away
to
cover
very
few
crews
to
do
it.
B
H
I
think
the
the
case
that
came
up
was
around
an
area
where
they
cleared
a
hundred
foot
right
away
or
something,
and
it
is
being
addressed
by
there's
some
there's,
some
state
legislation
being
discussed
and
I'm
curious
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
that.
If
that
would
affect
your
practices
at
all,
if
you
have
you
know
it,
because
it
sounds
like
there,
they
were
clearing
a
much
wider
right
away
than
you
traditionally
do.
100.
G
L
G
Possibly
I
mean
you
know:
common
courtesy
is
to
notify
people,
obviously
I'm
a
property
owner.
I
would
like
to
be
notified
if
somebody's
gonna
be
on
my
property
in
a
few
cases
where
the
customer
maybe
doesn't
get
notified.
Maybe
it's
an
emergency
type
situation
or
something
like
that.
You
know,
obviously,
that
that's
it's
hard
to
avoid
that
situation,
but
you
know
I,
understand
I,
understand
where
they're
going
with
it
I.
B
B
Yes,
you
also
mention
fact:
you
are:
do
contact
a
homeowner,
but
really
the
lag
time
between
contact
and
actual,
maybe
variable,
depending
on
emergency
situations,
terrariums,
okay.
So
therefore,
there's
no
time,
there's
there's
no
real
set
time
when
you
may
show
up
or
a
hospital
a
show
up,
and
that's
who
you
contract
with.
Yes,.
B
They
show
up,
starts
cutting
right,
and
these
are
things
I've
heard
as
issues
I
think
with
the
tree
Commission
that
you
met
with
that
time.
Their
concerns
about
tree
practices
in
terms
of
cutting
the
dial
of
that
I'm
aware
I,
just
somebody
just
pulled
me
aside,
and
it
was
pointing
at
some
trees
on
carpenter,
I,
don't
know
if
you're
aware
the
two
pine
trees
on
carpets
between
Congress
and
Court.
Yes,
now
they'll
probably
never
be
a
problem
to
you
again,
but
they
look
great
carry
a
square.
They
are.
B
C
B
G
B
I
think
the
concern
I
was
hearing
that
and
it
was
particular
to
Fairview
and
Grosvenor
there's
a
a
walkway
there.
This
isn't
a
stairway
there
mm-hmm
and
it
seems
you
quite
a
bit
of
debris
on
that
and
I
think
the
concern
I
had
was
hearing
from
those
people
were
fire
hazards.
In
terms
all
this
kindling,
that's
now
been
placed
there
well.
G
H
N
Mark
Dumble
finger
I'm,
the
customer
services
manager
I
believe
there
was
a
reliability
writer
that
we
had
presented
to
the
PUC
Oh
back
in
January,
with
the
intention
of
additional
monies
being
utilized
for
to
address
further
reliability
issues
which
included
putting
it
on
additional
protective
devices,
more
more
line,
maintenance,
more
tree
trimming
and
things
of
that
nature
that
reliability,
writer
has
been
withdrawn,
as
I
think
was
last
week
was
week
before
last.
So
that
issue
is
at
the.
N
Fore
you
know
for
various
reasons,
once
they
had
further
discussions
with
the
PUC,
oh
and
the
Ohana
consumers
Council
and
the
EP.
We
came
to
decide
that
that
who
is
more
appropriate
to
withdrawal
that,
at
this
point
in
time,
primarily
because
of
some
concerns
with
our
rate
stabilization
plan
that
we
have
right
now
with
our
overall
rates
as
we're
going
through
this
market
development
period
for
deregulation.
So
at
this
point
in
time
there
will
not
be
a
real
liability
rider
taking
place
this
summer.
O
B
N
N
Summers
council
basically
brought
that
issue
up
with
the
Commission
and
the
AEP
to
a
year
ago,
and
after
further
review
by
the
courts,
they
really
agreed
that
there
they
were
right
that
we
didn't
need
to
go
through
the
competitive
bidding
process
once
they've
got
through
looking
at
that
whole
process
and
concerning
where
our
rates
were
today,
the
most
appropriate
way
to
handle
that
without
an
additional
burden
to
our
ratepayers
would
be
just
to
focus
on
the
green
energy
term
that
you
further
up.
Even
more
did
you
want
to
add
to
that.
D
B
D
B
Yeah,
okay,
the
other
thing
I
know
why
I
want
to
try
wrapping
this
up,
because
I
know
we
have
more
committees
and
I'm,
not
sure.
I
saw
running
long
committees,
I
guess
the
other
one
was
how
to
reduce
rates
on
a
street
lights,
we're
just
we're
signing
on
until
cool
cities,
a
resolution
with
the
idea
of
reducing
our
energy
consumption.
B
At
the
same
time,
I
believe
one
of
the
Student
Senate
has
just
walked
out
and
she
was
concerned
about
increasing
our
speed
lighting
at
the
same
time.
So
we're
talking
about
two
different
things
at
the
same
time
here
process
for
increasing
streetlights.
So
can
you
redo?
It
really
reiterated
and
the
thing
and
we
reduce
the
bill
or
something
are.
N
N
N
N
Are
some
that
could
still
be
reduced
in
size
as
far
as
light
output,
but
that
would
probably
not
be
advisable
considering
where
some
of
these
lights
are
there
through
your
main
thoroughfares,
it
would
reduce
the
line
at
writing.
Output.
Okay.
So,
unfortunately,
the
only
true
alternative
that
you
have
is
actually
reducing
the
number
of
lights
themselves
throughout
the
city
and
the
flip
side.
If
there
are
some
other
areas
that
need
more
lighting
for
various
reasons,
to
be
happy
to
work
with
you
and
we'll
be
more
than.
B
O
O
I'm
Ali,
McWilliams
and
I
am
the
chair
of
the
Athens
shade-tree
Commission
and
we
should
say
a
brief
thanks
to
AEP
for
a
right
tree
in
the
right
place.
Planting
project
that
happened
about
a
year
ago
when
there
was
heavy
pruning
happening
on
the
east
side
and
Steve
Stanley,
spearheaded
that
thank
you.
O
I
think
you
mentioned
that's
in
the
area
of
carpenter
in
Congress
and
it's
in
a
backyard.
Steve
knows
about
this
and
probably
needs
to
be
checked
about
its
root
system.
But
if
you
take
half
a
tree
down,
that's
a
really
big
tree,
it
can
start
to
tilt
and
we
think
it
may
be
tilting.
So
it's
this
kind
of
pruning
practice
on
certain
kinds
of
trees
can
create
hazards
and
that's
one
of
our
concerns.
O
D
A
recently
offered
request
for
Proposal
renewable
energy
certificates
are
a
renewable
energy
product
that
customers
can
purchase
to
reduce
the
environmental
impact
of
their
activities
and
our
EC
represents
the
environmental
attributes,
for
example,
avoided
co2
emissions
that
are
created
when
electricity
is
generated
using
renewable
resources
instead
of
using
fossil
fuel
sources
such
as
coal,
oil
and
natural
gas.
Customers
who
sign
up
for
this
program
would
pay
small
premiums
for
an
equivalent
of
a
minimum
of
200
kilowatt
hours
associated
with
ApS
a
peel
highest
purchase
of
renewable
energy
certificates.
D
Each
month
after
the
selection
of
the
winning
bid,
customers
will
be
informed
regarding
availability
of
the
green
pricing
options
via
Bill
inserts
a
fee,
Ohio
website
press
releases
and
existing
public
outreach.
The
green
pricing
option
is
a
voluntary
market
based
alternative
to
aap
Ohio's
standard
service
officer.
Customers
may
elect
to
purchase
the
green
product,
pursue
the
tariff
writer
at
anytime
after
is
offered
and
for
the
life
of
the
tariff
writer.
D
Reed
powers
defined
a
service
that
must
come
from
our
ACS
from
green
resources
located
inside
or
outside
in
the
state
of
Ohio.
Green
resources
are
defined
as
wind,
solar,
photovoltaic
by
biomass,
co-firing
of
agricultural
crops
and
all
energy
crops.
Hydro
is
certified
by
the
low-impact
teiegram
institute
incremental
improvements
in
large
scale,
hydro,
coal,
mine,
methane,
landfill
gas,
biogas
digesters
biomass,
coal,
firing
of
all
woody
wastes,
including
mill
residue,
but
excluding
painted
or
treated
lumber.
Only
green
resources
have
been
brought
in
the
service
are
after
January,
1st
1997
shall
qualify.
D
Our
ACS
must
be
degree
resources
located
in
the
region
curve
with
a
reliability
first
Corporation
re.
These
can
be
sold
separately
from
their
associated
electricity
and
thus
associated
lectricity,
and
thus
enable
customers
to
purchase
the
environmental
attributes
of
renewable
power
generation
and
the
pen
late
of
their
retail
power
supply
in
an
re
EC
deal.
The
power
from
the
renewable
energy
facility
is
not
physically
delivered
to
the
customer,
but
the
environmental
benefits
created
by
the
facility
are
attributed
to
that
customer
directly.
D
Offsetting
the
environmental
impact
of
the
customer's
conventional
energy
use
all
of
ap
Ohio's
meter
customers,
excluding
percentage
of
income
payment
plan.
Customers
will
be
eligible
to
participate
in
the
green
pricing
option.
The
program
will
become
available
in
several
months.
During
this
interim
period,
AEP
Ohio
will
be
conducting
the
RFP
executing
contracts
for
the
purchase
of
renewable
energy
certificates,
preparing
customer
information,
materials
and
final
tariff
for
filing
with
the
finishing.
F
F
D
F
D
L
J
J
L
Be
on
the
road
that
goes
down
by
the
dairy
barn
turns
right,
and
then
it
goes
left
again
by
the
red
men.
Well
before
that,
there's
a
place,
that's
a
relatively
stable
land
form
and
that's
where
they're
going
to
put
it
isolated
from
many
from
both
from
potential
NOC
source
impacts
under
how
was
this
nearby
with
that
location
anyway,
okay,.
B
B
C
L
P
P
O
B
L
So
now
that
we're
getting
organized
but
last
we
met,
we
heard
from
attorney
meek
and
we
have
the
minutes
in
front
of
us
and
a
few.
L
It'll
come
up
later
on
I
think
there
was
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
There
was
strong
support
for
it.
Well,
at
least
among
some
people,
for
not
moving
beyond
the
existing
development
and
so
I
guess
it's
an
indication
that
we're
considering
this
as
an
opportunity,
and
so
the
plan
said
one
thing
and
so
I.
You
know
I
I,
guess
that
I'd
like
to
see
the
mass
and
go
forward
I.
You
know
the
rest
of
the
questions
that
were
raised
in
the
paper
are
not
germane,
just
the
size
of
the
parcel.
How
much
is
clomid
potentially?
L
P
Am
attorney
Sierra,
meek
and
company
in
Nelsonville,
Ohio
and
I
am
representing
the
firm
is
representing
Holzer
clinic,
as
you
said,
I
also
today,
I
brought
with
me
attorney
Michael
:
and
Todd
Fowler.
The
the
assistant
administrator
I,
chose
our
clinic
to
help
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
last
time
when
we
here
on
April
23rd,
you
had
requested
a
development
agreement.
I
did
provide
that
development
agreement.
It
is
in
draft
form,
but
we
are
working
on
that
to
make
sure
that
the
city
and
holder
is
on
click
on
work
and.
L
L
P
That's
good
and
we
did
submit
our
petition
on
May
7th
and
then
subsequently,
we
received
two
requests
from
Council
for
other
other
maps
and
information
about
our
petition
for
annexation
and
I've.
Provided
that
to
you
here
what
you're?
Looking
at
first
on
Exhibit
A
is
a
proposed
subdivision
split
that
was
submitted
last
Friday
May
11th
to
the
Planning
Commission.
This
shows
three
tracts
of
land.
P
P
P
P
The
low
Mart
has
not
been
requested
at
this
point,
but
we
do
have
the
clone
Mart
and
in
place
at
this
time,
and
it
does
show
where
the
flood
limits
are
and
we
can
try
to
field
some
questions
about
about
the
club
are
based
on
that
and
then
the
last
map
is
a
site
plan
of
what
the
holder
medical
clinic
is
to
look
like
on
that.
First
tract
that
we
that
we
looked
at
on
the
first
map,
and
it
shows
that
the
city
of
Athens
corporation
line
does
is
plan.
C
P
L
L
E
F
O
Q
In
the
future,
extend
the
city
limits
in
any
way
that
way
you
wouldn't
have,
then
this
parcel
that
you'd
have
to
go
back
and
renegotiate
to
try
to
get
it
in
plus
they've
thought
that
I
remember
the
situation
of
days
in
when
I
was
on
council
and
they
went
in
for
an
annexation.
They
left
a
little
bit
of
property
off.
You
want
to
see
assigned
us
our
sign,
weirdness
compliance,
you
go
right
there.
He
see
the
sign
for
the
days
in
so
to
us.
Q
C
C
J
L
B
B
L
R
Me
address
it
right,
reduce
myself,
I'm,
Todd,
Fowler
and
assist
administrator,
who
pulls
our
clinic
when
we
looked
at
the
property
and
began
giving
the
site
to
engineers
and
allowing
them
to.
If
you
will
play
with
it
and
come
up
with
the
best
layout
and
in
their
minds,
they
envisioned
an
additional
access
point
and
I
say
additional,
because
there's
already
one
there
another
second
ingress
egress.
R
So
some
of
our
drawings
still
show
that
we
have
gone
to
ODOT
and
in
conjunction
with
mayor's
office,
who
have
looked
at
the
possibility
of
relocating
the
access
being
that
that
is
limited
access.
Highway
you're
only
allowed
to
you're
only
permitted
to
have
one
ingress
egress
that
stretch
of
road
French.
Our
preference
would
be
to
have
it
located
as
you
see
in
the
map,
but
we
don't
know
you
can
do
that
or
not
so
it
tends
to
stay
in
some
of
the
maps.
It's
something
we're
still
considering,
but
it'll
be
done.
R
R
C
B
Q
Maintain
the
highway
because
it's
it's
a
federal
highway.
Okay,
in
some
of
the
cases
there,
we
maintain
the
right
away
like,
for
example,
at
Columbus
Road.
You
see
that
fence
line
in
front
of
Taylor
motors
and
such
and
in
front
of
W
ATH.
That's
a
limited
access
property,
there's
only
one
entry
there,
but
we
mow
the
grass
in
that
area
and
then
there's
other
agreements
with
Oh
Dada,
some
of
those
they
take
care
of
the
entryways.
Some
we
do
it's
a
negotiated
process
with
we
haven't
negotiated
out
there.
Yet
so
that's
another
wonder:
okay,.
B
Q
The
way
Oh
God
usually
looks
at
things
as
they
go
to
thee.
It
is
an
existing
Street
I
believe
there
are
mutual
from
this
same
as
power
companies
like
electrical
AP.
Just
here
substation
doesn't
vote
in
an
annexation
process
version,
so
we
would
probably
take
the
eastbound
lanes,
but
probably
could
potentially
be
ours
that
are
right
now
to
a
certain
point:
we're
adding
six
700
feet.
Maybe
okay.
B
O
B
H
Just
a
quick
one
in
this
discussion
about
the
curb
cut,
this
will
be
later
down
the
road
I
think,
as
as
plans
are
more
developed,
but
obviously
there'll
be
discussions
with
the
fire
chief
about
whether
we
need
to
have
two
ways
in
and
out
just
in
terms
of
safety.
Business
and
all
we're
talking
about
right
now
is
the
resolution
about
which
services
we
would
intend
to
provide,
which
would
be
water
and
sewer,
and
fire
and
police.
L
L
Only
have
them
miscellaneous
on
mine
actually
ray
Kate.
This
call
me
I
said
that
we
need
to
redo
the
fern
alley,
storm
sewer
and
at
some
point
maybe
we
should
be
discussing
how
we
want
to
pay
for
that.
I
think
it's
gonna
be
substantial
and
it's
the
next
meeting
I
proposed
to
talk
about
it,
but
you
could
be
thinking
about
it.
I
think
the
cost
of
the
engineering
is
pretty
high
already
and
we
don't
have
our
full.
Our
full
FEMA
I
mean
the
rich,
not
the
Richland,
whatever
they
move
at
them.
Areas.
L
Together
the
MEP
totally
lost
it
forget
it
think
about
it
next
time
for
next
time,
think
about
fur
and
Alan
and
the
storm
sewer,
which
is
the
size
of
a
truck
and
whether
it
comes
out
of
the
sewer
funder.
If
we
should
put
a
special
assessment
on
this,
but
really
what
I
would
like
to
discuss
next
time,
Nancy.
B
L
C
J
J
C
J
O
J
3000
nights
of
shelter
for
homeless
individuals-
and
we
have
some
some
statistics
for
so
far
in
2007,
see
in
April
they
provided
378
nights
of
shelter,
and
so
this
is
a
this
is
a
very
important
grant.
It
would
bring
fifty
eight
thousand
three
hundred
dollars
to
the
good
works
program.
Their
budget
is,
in
general,
their
proposed
budget.
J
Twenty
thousand
dollars
to
to
make
this
work.
Mr.
Wasserman
is
out
of
town
today
tonight
he
would
be
more
than
willing
to
come
next
Monday
when
we
discussed
this
when
we
read
this
for
the
second
time,
if
there
are
further
questions
and
he
would
especially
like
to
arrange
for
City
Council
and
anybody
else,
who's
interested
to
make
a
visit
to
the
shelter
on
an
evening
or
an
afternoon
of
our
choice.
J
C
O
C
J
J
President
of
council,
we
had
a
representative
from
tri-county
Community
Action
who
handles
our
fair
housing
grant,
which
comes
through
CDBG
funds.
The
president
bias
remarked
that
the
literature
that
was
being
passed
out
does
not
indicate
that
within
the
city
of
Athens,
a
protected
class
is
also
such
an
orientation.
So.
J
Printed
a
whole
bunch
of
literature,
so
they're
not
really
in
the
reprinting,
but
she
has
offered
to
insert
inserting
everything
that's
handed
out
within
the
city
and
they
are
just
about
ready
to
to
redistribute
throughout
the
city
so
as
soon
as
they
have
that
insert
available
and
the
packet
will
get
some
samples
and
see
how
that's
handled
so
that
will
be
dealt
with
well.
I.
B
J
C
J
F
J
So
far,
it's
three
hundred
fifteen
thousand
four
hundred
fifty
nine
dollars
for
the
last
half
of
2006
and
also
our
tip
east,
a
street
tip
collections,
were
to
two
hundred
seventy
five
thousand
seven
hundred
and
three
dollars.
In
some
sense,
we
have
an
appropriation
for
the
e
state
debt
fund
of
about
sixty
eight
thousand,
so
we
have
150
1000
additional
money
that
needs
to
be
putting
that
time.
Is
that
way,
understanding.
S
S
J
S
That's
one
of
them
the
East,
8th
Street,
note
in
the
parking
garage
note.
Our
various
purpose
bond
notes
that
we
that
are
handled
by
our
bond
Council,
because
East
8th
Street
is
large.
Two
million
dollars
we
have,
and
so
that
has
to
go
through
council
readings
and
he
needs
to
know
how
much
we
want
to
pay
down
before
he
starts
that,
so
those
are
due
July
11th.
S
So
he
said
if
we
start
that,
through
at
our
first
meeting
in
June,
then
we're
probably
okay.
So
we
just
need
to
to
know
about
that
and,
as
I
said,
we
need
to
transfer
that
TIF
money
and
then
appropriate
it,
the
other
one.
That's
due
June
30th
is
well
it's
the
Hocking
Valley
Bank
loan
that
I
took
out
three
years
ago
to
pay
our
sewer
debt
loans.
S
If
you
remember
that
was
kind
of
an
emergency
type
loan
for
$300,000
we've
only
paid
25,000
down
on
it
in
three
years,
I'd
like
council,
to
consider
paying
more
on
that
this
year,
bringing
that
down
a
little
bit
since
we've
just
in
the
past
six
months
or
so
taken
out
two
new
Hawking
Valley
bank
loans.
One
is
one
in
water,
but
one
in
sewer,
so
I
request
that
the
other
be
appropriated
and
750
to
pay
down
on
that
and
I
request
about
50,000
and
then
see
how
much
the
receipts
come
in
in
the
next
month.
S
J
J
S
C
S
S
J
F
S
He,
you
know,
writes
it
the
ordinances
and
the
the
parking
garage
in
the
East
State
Street
debt
are
two
separate
ordinances,
and
then
he
there's
a
third
one
that
combines
them
mm-hmm,
so
for
him
to
write
those
get
them
to
us,
go
through
council.
He
needs
the
amounts
so
we'll
be
asking
I'll
be
asking
for
these
transfers
and
appropriations
from
the
TIF
money
for
East
State
Street
parking
garage
already
has
money
in
there
to
pay
that.
H
J
Q
Q
The
other
thing
is,
we
did
receive
the
approval
from
the
state
controlling
board
for
the
release
of
$75,000
of
the
I
guess
earmarked
monies
in
the
state
capital
improvement
budget
for
the
Soccer
Complex.
We
should
have
that
check
by
the
end
of
the
month.
We
have
also
have
a
we've
received
10,000
for
mobile
illness
and
have
a
two-year
commitment
for
another
10,000
the
next
two
years.
It
should
be
becoming
it
a
July
for
the
$10,000
payment,
so
we
have
a
hundred
and
five
thousand
in
hand
or
promised
from
apprentice.
Q
So
we'd,
like
me,
know
we
need
to
get
started
on
this
so
that
we
can
do
something
in
the
least
by
the
fall
and
latest.
The
council
has
already
done
an
ordinance
authorizing
for
the
75,000
and
all
this
which
was
necessary
to
get
get
that
bra
down.
I
know,
there's
been
some
discussion
because
a
large
part
of
that
will
be
going
for
restroom
facility,
but
we,
you
know,
have
okay's
from
the
high
barber
natural
resources
at
least
the
minimum
requirement.
Q
J
J
Q
Q
So
it's
not
the
grandiose
plans
that
some
of
the
soccer
committee
had
some
years
ago
that
show
the
pavilions
and
the
stands
and
all
the
other
things
it's.
It's
got
a
strong
dose
of
reality,
and
so,
but
if
there's
other
details,
I
have
to
Jeff
made
and
do
the
hydrology
and
do
all
of
that
work
on
it.
So
if
you
need
additional
information.
J
H
I'm
gonna
begin
the
Planning
and
Development
Committee.
The
item
on
our
agenda
is
to
discuss
the
B
to
D
rezoning
request
for
the
lower
end
of
port
Street
I
have
a
couple
documents:
I'm
just
gonna
go
over
I
passed
maps
of
Uptown
around
to
council
members.
I
have
extra
copies
of
the
map
here.
For
anyone
who
wants
it
and
I
have
a
couple
extra
copies
that
compare
the
differences
between
what's
allowed
in
a
B
to
D
and
a
b3,
and
we
have
two
extra
copies
with
that.
H
C
H
H
The
Planning
Commission
confirmed
that
it
was
their
intention
to
include
all
properties
that
are
right
on
Court
Street
and
that
when
they
said
that
we
should
use
our
discretion
about
where
draw
the
line
they
meant
reaching
out
to
include
potentially
other
properties
that
are
not
actually
a
budding
Court
Street.
So
that
is
the
Planning
Commission
recommendation.
If
we
would
want
to
do
something
different
than
that,
we
would
need
a
supermajority
on
council
to
do
that.
So
that's
the
recommendation
we
have
before
us.
H
You
need
four
votes
to
pass
it
to
pass
it
the
way
they
recommended
it
with
the
discretion
along
the
where
magic,
video
and
Stephen
says
those
kind
of
questions.
I
also
want
to
mention
that
we
I
received
a
letter.
I
think
everyone
received
a
letter
from
someone
from
Pamela
Roland
who
said
she
can't
be
here
tonight
saying
that
she
supports
this
I
think
there
are
several
issues
in
front
of
us
I.
H
Think,
first
of
all,
whether
or
not
we
want
to
proceed
if
we
want
to
proceed
where
the
line
should
go
and
I
think
that
there
are
some
related
quality
of
life
issues
that
are
of
concern
to
a
number
of
people
that
we
need
to
consider
as
we
discuss
this,
at
least
to
include
parking
noise
and
increased
residential
density.
Those
are
the
things
that
I've
been
hearing
from
people
about
and
I.
Think
other
members
of
council
have
been
hearing
about
that
as
well.
H
I
did
a
little
bit
of
research
just
to
see
how
much
of
an
issue
the
parking
was,
because
that
seems
to
be
one
of
the
controlling
factors
in
terms
of
increased
residential
density
and
possibly
increased
noise
and
I
thought.
Maybe
we
would
find
that
we're
only
talking
about
a
handful
of
parking
spaces
that
are
currently
required
to
be
dedicated
for
commercial
use.
In
my
conversation
with
Steve
Pearson,
he
went
over
all
the
different
parking.
H
That
is
currently
required
to
be
used
for
commercial
purposes,
and
it
looks
like
it's
in
the
neighborhood
of
70
to
75
parking
spaces,
so
just
to
quantify
what
we're
talking
about
in
terms
of
the
the
possible
spaces
that
could
turnover
for
residential
use
if
they
were
no
longer
required
to
be
used
for
commercial
purposes
and
I
can
go
through
where
we
think
those
are
if
you
want
kind
of
business
by
business.
But
well,
if
you
need
me
to
do
that,
and
yes,
these.
B
H
H
Okay,
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
who
want
to
talk
to
us
and
I
wonder
if
we
should
let
people
do
their
three
minutes
now
before
we
start
our
discussion
just
so,
we
can
hear
what
things
people
are
concerned
about.
So
I
know
that
they're,
the
Chamber
of
Commerce's,
here
Mike
Smeltzer,
is
here
and
and
nearby
neighbors
in
the
community
are
here
so
I'd
like
to
hear
from
people
before
we
launch
into
our
discussion
and
start
making
any
decisions.
C
M
L
C
L
C
T
Now
the
original
zoning
code
that
was
passed
in
1969
in
dealing
with
the
Uptown
Business
District
contained
the
provision
that
off-street
parking
requirement
for
principally
permitted
uses,
may
be
eliminated
if
there
exists
within
500
feet
of
the
property
line,
improved
public
parking,
meaning
the
parking
garage,
and
that
issue
became
came
before
the
Zoning
Board
on
a
number
of
occasions
and
frankly,
with
that
500
foot
line
and
the
B
to
D
designation.
At
that
time,
there
were
not
very
many
businesses
outside
the
500
foot
line
and
Anna
peak.
T
It
was
a
difficult
frankly
for
the
for
the
board
and
in
those
situations
to
deny
something
based
upon
parking.
But
in
fact
that
was
that
was
the
rule
and
it's
a
good
rule,
because
I
think
that
the
council,
the
passed
the
rule
at
the
time,
understood
that
the
further
away
of
business
is
from
the
parking
garage.
T
There
are
a
number
of
present
businesses
that
presently
provide
parking
for
their
commercial
purposes.
You
got
the
Historical
Society.
You
have
corn
wells,
jewelers,
I,
I'm
sure
that
that
quartzite
Pizza
does.
Although,
if
you
can
tell
me
where
their
parking
spots
are
for
the
pizza
place,
I'd
like
to
know
if
I
can
ever
find
a
place
when
I
try
to
go
there
and
then
of
course,
there's
bronies
at
the
far
end,
we
don't
know
what
the
situation
is
going
to
be
on
Court
Street
ten
years
from
now.
T
But
if
you
look
back
ten
years
at
what
it
was
and
look
at,
how
much
is
as
good
as
we've
gone
on
groan
there,
the
apartments
of
quartzite
pizza,
bronies,
a
law
office,
is
now
a
jewelry
store.
Certainly
the
next
ten
years
is
going
to
bring
more
change
and
the
Historical
Society.
What
if
they
moved
and
the
business
goes
in
there
and
decides?
Well?
If
this
we
no
longer
have
to
provide
parking
for
commercial
purposes,
so
we'll
expand
the
business,
eliminate
that
parking
add
more
people
in
the
building,
but
take
the
parking
away.
T
Lauren
Wells
jewelers!
They
could
decide
we'll
tear
our
building
down,
put
up
a
three-story
building.
Have
our
nice
jewelry
store
on
the
on
the
first
floor,
limiting
customer
parking
and
have
student
rentals
on
the
second
and
third
floors
and
have
the
parking
solely
from
them,
and
so
we
continue
to
increase
the
density
of
the
area
and
decrease
the
parking.
And,
frankly,
that
is
not
good
for
the
city
and
it's
certainly
not
good
for
the
Northside
neighborhood
I.
T
Was
told
that
that
courtside
and
bronies
would
become
non-conforming
use
as
if
this
change
took
place.
I'm
not
I'm,
not
sure
that
I
agree
with
that,
but
but
Steve
Pearson
told
me
that,
and
that
would
be
that
would
really
by
act
be
ironic,
because
if
council
would
have
made
this
decision
five
years
ago
done
according
to
Steve,
neither
of
those
businesses
could
have
gone
in
there.
T
It's
certainly,
no
matter
what
you
do.
No
matter
what
you
do,
keep
the
parking
that
that's
already
there
now
you
know.
Debbie
mentioned
noise
and
I've
lived
in
my
present
house
for
18
years
and
I
have
two
bedrooms
on
the
south
side
of
the
house,
given
that,
given
the
changes
that
have
taken
place
and
the
businesses
have
gone
in
there,
probably
in
warmer
times
of
the
year
three
nights
a
week
that
we
cannot
use
those
bedrooms
with
the
windows
open,
they
don't
have
a
right
to
take
away
the
use
of
my
house.
T
I,
don't
take
away
their
rights
to
their
business.
They
shirt
certainly
shouldn't
be
able
to
operate
a
business
in
such
a
fashion.
That
takes
away
my
use
and
enjoyment
of
my
house,
so
I
urge
purge
the
council
not
to
go
along
with
the
recommendation.
These
lines
have
been
drawn
since
1969
I
think
they've
served
us
well,
it
provides
for
parking
for
commercial
purposes
that
parking
ought
to
remain,
but
no
matter
what
you
do
again.
I
urge
you
to
keep
the
parking.
C
I
Rochelle
Dre
bold,
I
live
on
North
Congress
I
would
just
like
to
add
a
little
bit
more
to
more
of
a
human
element
of
the
changes
that
have
occurred
at
the
end
of
North
Court,
with
the
additional
businesses
that
have
opened
in
the
last
five
or
six
years
in
terms
of
the
density
of
people
who
are
milling
in
the
street.
On
the
sidewalks
Saturday
and
I
encountered
a
remote-controlled
small
Hummer
on
carpenter
Street
it
it's
a
zoo
on
many
nights
of
the
week.
I
There
are
many
people
roaming
around
down
there,
since
those
additional
businesses
have
gone
in
I'm
concerned.
If
you
move
the
line
away
from
State
Street
that
again,
many
of
the
things
that
mr.
ciliary
talked
about
will
continue
to
occur,
which
is
further
that
we
don't
live
in
a
flat,
Kansas
town
here
and
all
the
noise
just
laughs
right
up
the
valley
up
the
hill.
So
there
is
that
noise
issue
which
comes
with
density
I'd,
also
like
to
advocate
for
the
carpenter
hall
people.
I
Occasionally
we
do
hear
their
concerns
and
the
issues
they
bring
out
in
that
resident
residential
apartment
building
there
and
that's
another
concern,
because
I
think
if
you
move
the
zoning
farther
down
and
in
what's
proposed,
I
think
that
affects
those
people
even
more
and
they
don't
have
a
lot
of
advocates
for
their
for
their
positions
and
their
way
of
life
there.
So
I
really,
as
Jim
said,
urge
council
to
really
consider
with
some
foresight
and
some
some
thinking
here
about
what
we're
looking
at
in
terms
of
planning.
I
It
looks
nice
on
a
piece
of
paper
to
have
your
zoning
lines
and
colors
all
match
up
and
come
right
down
your
historic
business
district,
but
in
the
end,
I
think
the
human
aspects
of
this
and
the
results
for
many
of
the
folks
students
included,
is
not
going
to
be
helpful
for
our
community.
Thank
you.
K
K
K
K
It's
intimacy,
I
think
when
we
turn
away
from
commute
the
community
people
and
cater
to
the
incomes
of
large
earners
and
people
who
are
in
a
position
to
end
of
a
mind
to
live
outside
of
the
community
and
use
it
in
I
hate
to
say
this,
but
it's
a
real
parasitic
kind
of
way
to
take
that
downtown
area
and
use
it
in
a
way
that
it
was
never
meant
to
be
used.
I
mean
people.
K
The
downtown
was
never
meant
to
be
used
as
a
major
living
area
for
people
of
the
community
and
and
because
of
that
it
it
will
be
one
more
nail
in
the
coffin
for
those
of
us
who
who
do
enjoy
being
able
to
live
close
enough,
then
to
walk
to
events
and
facilities,
stores
that
we
love
uptown.
So
I
I
would
like
to
maintain.
K
Ask
you
to
help
maintain
the
balance
between
this
wonderful
community
University
influence
with
the
community
and
I
strongly
disagree
with
what
Terry
said
today,
Terry
Smith
said
today
and
in
his
wearing
thin
column.
I
feel
very
strongly
that
that
those
of
us
who
are
advocating
this
kind
of
a
situation
and
turning
down
that
zoning
change
are
asked
are
indeed
asking
for
balance,
and
so
it
would
be
very
much
appreciated
if
you
would
consider
that
balance.
When
you
make
up
your
minds
as
to
how
you
plan
to
vote.
Thank
you.
U
My
name
is
Aaron
Leatherwood
I'm
live
on
the
north
side
about
three
or
four
blocks:
north
of
Court
Street
and
I'm.
The
chairman
of
the
Athens
Near
North
Side,
neighborhood
association,
I've
reviewed
this
proposal
from
the
Planning
Council
and
I
am
concerned
that,
along
with
the
proposal,
we
have
a
recommendation,
but
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
analysis
to
support
that
recommendation.
U
I'm
concerned
that
we're
contemplating
these
kinds
of
changes
to
our
zoning
districts
prior
to
getting
place
a
city
planner.
We
know
that
we
need
a
city
planner.
We
are
trying
to
hire
a
city
planner
and
yet
we're
taking
the
kinds
of
steps
or
we're
contemplating
the
kinds
of
steps
that
you
would
really
follow
after
you've
discussed
these
with
a
city
planner
and
after
you've
had
some
time
for
for
a
city
planner
to
actually
look
at
the
city
and
think
about
what
makes
sense
for
us.
U
I've
talked
some
with
Steve
Pearson
Steve
Pearson
has
suggested
to
me
that
there
is
space
available
in
the
parking
garage
either
there
is
or
there
isn't.
If
there's
not
space
in
the
garage,
then
we
shouldn't
be
doing
this
at
all.
If
there
is
parking
space
on
the
garage,
then
we
should
be
asking
ourselves.
Why
is
it
the
case
that
there's
space
available
in
the
garage
and
yet
still
it
is
very
difficult
to
get
on
street
parking
a
block
away
on
the
upper
end
of
court
Street?
U
And
if
we
can't
get
parking
on
the
upper
end
of
court
Street,
because
just
about
every
time,
I
Drive
down
the
upper
end
of
court,
Street
I'm
looking
for
a
space,
while
presumably
just
next
door,
there's
space
available
in
the
garage.
Why
do
we
think
that
people
with
the
lower
end
of
court
Street
are
going
to
use
the
garage
when
people
at
the
upper
end
of
Court
Street
are
not
using
the
garage.
U
Now,
if
we
were
to
go
ahead
with
this
change,
what
would
that
mean?
If
we
were
to
go
ahead
with
this
change?
It
would
mean
that
all
of
a
sudden,
we
would
be
allowing
more
activity
on
the
lower
end
of
court
Street
and,
as
we
allowed
more
activity
on
the
lower
end
of
court
Street
as
the
parking
needs
increased
and
as
the
amount
of
available
space
decreased,
people
would
have
a
choice.
U
They
would
be
saying:
okay,
I'm
on
the
lower
end
of
court
Street,
where
am
I
going
to
go
park,
am
I
going
to
go
up
to
the
garage
where
I
have
to
go
through
various
levels
of
the
garage
I'll
be
looking
for
a
space,
maybe
I'll
find
one.
Maybe
I
won't
and
then
once
I
find
one
I
get
to
walk
down
to
the
lower
end
of
Court
Street
or
am
I
gonna
drive
up
Congress
and
down
grosvenor
and
over
to
Franklin,
am
I
gonna.
U
Look
in
the
residential
neighborhoods
first,
because
they're,
closer
and
they're
free
I
see
this
proposal
as
being
about
making
an
already
scarce
resource
in
the
residential
neighborhoods,
even
more
scarce,
and
this
starts
to
affect
our
ability
to
do
various
things.
We've
been
looking
at
parking
overall
in
the
residential
neighborhoods.
If
we
all
of
a
sudden
are
using
our
residential
neighborhood
for
parking
spaces
for
business,
it
makes
it
a
lot
harder
to
do
things
like
implement
a
hangtag
system.
U
Debbie
had
mentioned
earlier,
the
possibility
of
70
to
75
spaces
being
going
away
as
a
result
of
this
I
recall
around
20
years
ago,
when
Sarah
Hendrick
or
was
the
mayor,
and
she
had
looked
all
over
town
and
come
up
with
something
on
the
order
of
200
spaces
throughout
all
of
uptown,
and
that
was
a
big
difference.
I
remember
all
of
a
sudden.
At
the
margin
you
know
200
spaces,
that's
a
lot
of
spaces,
all
of
a
sudden
in
areas
where
you
couldn't
get
spaces
all
of
a
sudden.
U
Sometimes
you
could
get
spaces
it
made
a
difference
now.
70
to
75
spaces
is
only
half
that,
but
it's
concentrated
in
a
very
small
area,
and
we
shouldn't
kid
ourselves
to
think.
Oh,
maybe
only
some
of
the
70
or
75
spaces
will
go
away.
We've
seen
various
requests
and
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
for
for
one
or
two
spaces
all
the
time.
U
U
V
V
V
What's
known
as
the
comprehensive
plan
of
Athens,
in
which
I
believe
has
been
adopted
at
this
point
by
Council,
was
that
true?
Okay,
all
right!
So
there
was
the
that's
the
analysis,
that's
how
that
occurred.
I
guess
a
few
points
of
order.
One
is
the
noise
I
guess
number
one:
are
there
rules
on
the
books,
about
noise
ordinances
and
about
how
to
control
noise
in
the
downtown
area
or
in
the
residential
areas?
Are
those
are
those
things
in
place?
Are
they
being
used?
L
Usually
don't
respond
to
questions,
but
when
I
was
engineering
concerning
bronys,
you
know.
Lieutenant
gray
said
that
if
you're
having
a
loud
speaker,
blaring
out
music,
it's
one
kind
of
noise
problem,
but
he
did
say
that
the
bar
noise
in
on
North
Court
Street,
was
qualitatively
and
quantitatively
different
and
almost
impossible
to
to
in
force
with
our
existing
chrome.
Okay,.
V
L
V
I,
don't
think
that
I
was
gonna,
mention
the
idea
that
I'm
not
sure
if
the
if
the
members
of
community
members
are
aware
but
had
counsel
followed.
The
initial
two
attempts
at
making
the
zoning
outlined
maroney's
would
not
have
been
able
to
be
built
because
of
its
proximity
to
court
side
and
that's
a
bar
and
we
they
couldn't
have
done
that.
So
that
clearly
was
you
know
that
affected
sort,
I
think
the
folks
here
they're
concerned
with
the
noise
and
so
forth.
V
So
that's
one
that
you
know
the
noise
I
think
is
one
issue:
I'm
very
sympathetic:
I,
don't
know
how
to
control
it.
I
thought
there
were.
There
are
rules
on
the
books
in
order
to
do
that,
I
said
you
couldn't
have
it
I
mean
said
that
it
is
a
city,
a
city
full
of
college,
kids,
I,
might
add,
and
to
expect
that
to
be
a
silent
environment
is
a
little
bit
naive.
I
think,
secondly,
is
the.
V
We
heard
from
Jim,
who
is
also
a
business
owner
in
the
community,
nearby
I,
might
add
and
I
think
that
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
him,
but
I
would
be
surprised
if
he
would
ever
give
up
his
parking
so
that
his
clients
didn't
have
a
place
to
park.
Nor
would
the
commercial
owners
that
own
businesses
and
retail
spots
on
the
on
Court,
Street
and
nearby.
Why
would
they
give
up
parking?
V
Why
would
they
turn
this
parking
over
so
that
their
clients
don't
have
a
place
to
park
their
business
owners,
their
customers,
our
customers,
rather
wouldn't
have
a
place
to
park.
So
it's
it's
a
market
driven
idea,
and
evidently
it's
been
on
the
books
since
1969
boy
30-plus
years
have
gone
by
seems
like
maybe
time
for
a
change.
I'm,
not
you
know,
I'm
not
sure,
but
yes,
I.
V
Very
I
got
a
variance,
and
not
that
not
that
was
required
for
my
use,
for
my
commercial
use,
I
didn't
do
that.
Nor
I
might
nor
do
I
have
to
I
might
add
I,
don't
have
to
do
that
if
I
don't
want
to
so
as
the
business
owner
and
as
the
owner
of
the
building
I
can
decide
ultimately
in
knowing
that
we
have
to
have
commercial
activity.
V
On
that
first
floor,
if
I
want
people
to
come
and
frequent,
my
business
I'd
better,
be
either
a
pedestrian
business
or
I'd
better
have
some
parking,
and
there
aren't
very
many
along
that
way.
There's
horn
well
I
think
we
all
know
has
plenty
of
parking
right
out
front.
Otherwise
you
know
they're
there
I
assume
that's
a
business
decision
made
so
that
they
could
have
some
clients
that
have
them
come
in
there
and
I
would
be
surprised
if
that
change,
but
again
I
can't
speak
for
someone
else.
V
So
that
kind
of
addresses
the
parking
space
question,
I,
suppose
density.
My
question
to
Debbie
is:
if
you
haven't
decided
on
a
boundary,
how
did
you
know
what
what
to
ask
Steve
in
terms
of
where
the
70
to
75
parking
spaces
have
become
available?
Could
you
describe
the
boundaries
that
used
with
him
to
produce
those
numbers.
H
V
Okay,
well,
I
mean
it's
just
a
point
of
clarification.
So
I
can
address
the
issue
publicly.
Did
you
do
you
know
what
that
boundary
was
that
you
mean
I'm
sure
it
was
just
a
hypothetical,
but
you
know
what
it
was
or
what
it
included.
I
think
it
would
be
give
people
a
better
idea
of
where
the
parking
is
available
and
where
it's
not.
V
B
Remember
this,
this
zoning
changes
goes
all
the
way
back
to
like
91
I
think
the
packet
we
have
shows
to
teach
the
point
of
91,
okay,
okay,
so
I'm
trying
remember
what
the
analysis
was
for
that,
but
I
don't
think
it
was
really
the
same
analysis
for
parking
hearings.
My
dad
I
think
it's
just
okay,
smooth
it
out
or
something
like
that.
B
V
C
V
Talks
about
a
lot
of
things
and
a
lot
of
aspects
that
we
all
appreciate
about.
Athens
and
one
thing
it
says
without
very
much
question
in
black
and
white
is
those
four
blocks
ought
to
be
considered
the
downtown
area
and
I
think
all
of
us
in
the
room.
They
are
considered
that
we
do
consider
that
to
downtown.
We
would
just
like
to
be
treated
equally.
The
last
block
should
be
the
same
as
the
other
three
you.
B
V
W
Yohoo
Ghazni
20,
Fairview
I,
live
on
the
near
Northside
I've
been
affected
by
businesses
that
have
exceeded
gotten
into
the
lower
side
of
court
Street.
Here
and
really,
we
do
need
a
balance.
We
need
to
be
able
to
have
commercial
enterprise,
but
that
can't
be
at
the
cost
of
residents
not
being
able
to
sleep
in
their
own
bedrooms.
W
B
W
C
M
My
name's
Larry
Payne
I've
been
asked
to
speak
for
the
uptown
Business
Association.
The
co-chair
of
that
group.
First
of
all,
the
uptown
Business
Association
does
care
about
the
quality
of
life
and
the
near
neighborhood
areas
of
the
uptown,
but
the
AUB.
A
also
cares
about
preserving
the
uniqueness
of
the
Stork
district
uptown
and
concerning
some
of
the
statements
tonight
about
don't
do
this
before
the
county
planner.
This
is
something
new.
M
This
has
been
in
our
records
from
the
town
business
association
for
20
years
now,
so
this
proposal
is
something
that
we've
gone
on
record
many
times
of
being
in
favor
of
about
the
concern
of
noise.
We
understand
that
and
the
effect
if
the
b2d
had
been
in
effect.
Some
of
these
problems
would
not
have
been
in
existence
as
the
feeling
of
our
group,
the
the
we
don't
think
the
proposal
is
totally
based.
M
Just
on
usage
of
the
garage
like
I
said
we're
concerned
about
the
preservation,
historical
district
and
I
think
it
would
help
our
group
Debbie
if
you
could
give
us
a
breakdown
of
those
70
parking
places
because
I
know
just
on
top
of
my
head
and
what
I
drove
by
there
on
the
way
here
tonight.
I
know
there's
at
least
12
at
the
County
Museum,
which
we
don't
think
was
going
to
change.
Public
defender
office
is
another
12,
Cornwell,
jewelers
and
I
know
nobody
can
guarantee.
M
What's
going
to
happen,
the
corn
wells
has
been
around
for
a
hundred
and
forty
60
years,
I
believe
maybe
even
160
years
now,
I
know
there's
at
least
five
places
out
front
and
I
think
another
five
in
the
back
or
employees,
but
we
don't
know
what
the
total
breakdown
is,
but
just
if
those
cases
are
pretty
close,
that's
34,
that's
half
of
it
right
there.
So
from
enough
down
businesses
association.
If
you
could
provide
that
with
us,
we
could
talk
to
the
businesses
and
would
be
happy
to
do
then.
H
You,
okay,
I,
guess
a
couple
other
things
that
that
I
would
mention.
I
think
the
comprehensive
plan
is
a
document
that
has
a
lot
of
different
ideas
in
it,
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
discussed
by
the
steering
committee
before
it
was
forwarded
to
the
Planning,
Commission
and
then
to
Council
is
there
is
a
need
to
prioritize
and
there
are
things
that
can
be
in
conflict
with
one
another
within
the
plan.
H
It's
it's
not
like
it's
a
document
where
we
could
do
everything
that's
in
there,
so
there
is
still
a
role
for
the
Planning
Commission
and
for
City,
Council
and
so
I
think
it
is
entirely
appropriate
for
us
to
be
engaged
in
this
discussion
about
the
issues
that
are
important
to
residents
and
business
owners
in
the
city.
I
would
just
kind
of
you
know
preface
our
discussion
by
saying
that
and
I
will
type
up
a
list
of
what
I've
been
told
about
parking
places
and
email
it
around
to
folks,
but
I'd
like
to
open
the
discussion.
L
So
traditionally
in
Ohio,
the
state
Department
of
liquor
control,
preempts
local
zoning,
just
as
it
does
with
hazardous
waste
facilities
and
power
plants
and
some
other
publications.
And
so,
if
that's
changed,
I'd
be
perfectly
willing
to
admit
then
oh
well,
maybe
those
two
wouldn't
have
been
there,
but
I
don't
think
it's
changed.
I
think
it's
all.
It's
still
the
case
that
the
state
Department
of
liquor
control
will
allow
them,
within
the
reasons
that
they
have
500
feet
of
a
church,
blah
blah
and
things
they
require.
L
But
I
think
that
is
a
standard
unless
it's
chicken
I
could
not
find
it
on
the
website.
I
read
the
whole
doggone
thing,
it
doesn't
say
local
zoning
can
affect
the
placement
at
all.
The
second
thing
I
have
is
from
a
few
years
ago,
and
this
is
one
introduced
by
a
bomb
chair,
Planning
and
Development
Committee
at
the
end
of
the
year
in
2001
about
five
years
ago,
the
Planning
Commission
at
that
time
recommended
an
amended
plat
of
the
less
cornrow
residential
commercial
plant,
PUD
up
on
north
Court
Street,
and
on
that
amendment
actually
allowed.
L
This
is,
according
from
our
minutes,
less
coin
will
explained
that
the
construction
of
the
complex
at
95
Court
Street,
was
completed
in
1993
for
nearly
10
years.
He
worked
to
rent
the
ground
floor.
After
failing
to
rent
the
commercial
space
he
opened,
quartzite
pizza
in
1997
and
most
of
the
floor
in
building
2
&
3
was
used
for
storage.
In
other
words,
there
was
not
enough
commercial
demand
in
that
area
to
use
the
area
as
a
commercial
entity,
so
in
1990
in
2001
five
years
ago,
or
so
five
years
and
three
months
ago.
L
We
allowed
him
then
to
start
to
use
the
first
floor
as
apartments
so
going
to
a
commercial
zone
in
an
area
five
years
ago
there
was
evidence
that
there
wasn't
demand
in
that
very
area
for
commercial
use
on
the
ground
floor,
which
would
be
required
now
by
the
he
was
required
by
virtue
of
his
puhd,
and
this
now
would
require
everyone
to
have
it
so
I
just
think.
That's
a
piece
of
information.
That's
very
important
because
we're
talking
about
primary
uses,
being
commercial
and
secondary
being
residential,
just
a
piece
of
information.
X
Carol
I
think
that
we,
it
would
be
beneficial
if
we
had
a
sincere
discussion
about
the
possibility
of
going
back
to
the
500
yard
distance
from
the
parking
garage.
I
certainly
think
that
that
relieves
some
of
the
worries
concerning
the
parking
the
way
I
see
it.
There
are
two
concerns
here
that
are
that
are
real
connected
with
what
we're
trying
to
do.
X
L
I
think
that's
a
really
good
idea
and
I
would
like
to
add
that
we
should
put
it
as
a
line
on
the
map,
because
I've
seen
different
zoning
inspectors
use
different
lines,
and
so,
if
this
is
indeed
a
way
around,
this
quandra
quandary
were
in.
That
would
be
a
way
to
do
it,
and
so
beyond
that,
and
it
certainly
seems
like
a
starting
yeah,
and
it
would
have
to
go
back
through
the
Planning
Commission
right.
X
H
Another
thing
that
I
thought
about
related
to
that,
because
a
lot
of
this
has
been
discussion
about
noise
late
at
night
is
whether
we
want
to
look
if
whether
we
could
have
any
zoning
recommendation
about
when
there
are
sidewalk
tables
and
chairs.
You
know
if
there's
any
way
to
set
a
time
limit.
You
know
like
after
10
o'clock
or
after
11
o'clock,
that
activity
is
done
for
the
night.
I
I
don't
know.
If
that's
something
that
that
we
could
consider.
F
L
J
No
I
was
going
to
say
what
Bojinka
said
that
that's
a
separate
issue,
but
I
think
that
what
you,
what
you're
speaking
about
is
some
limit
on
the
on
the
time
of
the
outdoor
cafes
would
be
very
reasonable.
Action
for
us
to
take
and
I
know.
If
we
address
it
now,
we'd
have.
We
may
have
to
be
creative
in
dealing
with
the
liquor
license,
but
that's
one
way
to
look
at
it
and
I
agree
with
Carole
that
we
should
probably
look
at
disconnecting
the
commercial
parking
space
users
from
necessarily
the
whole
B
to
D
zone.
H
C
J
J
H
H
B
You
again
the
discussion
of
how
many
spaces
commercial
spaces
are
actually
affected
by
this
I'd,
be
interested
in
seeing
that
map
as
well
spaces.
Well,
Larry
brought
it
up.
How
many
numbers
are
we
talking
about,
and
and
actually
I
wouldn't
mind,
actually
and
I
know
it'd
be
a
lot
of
work
has
find
out.
How
many
has
he
actually
residential
parking
spaces?
We
have
up
there
too.
Okay.
H
B
H
H
18
West
State
has
14
spaces,
nine
are
required
for
commercial
bronys
has
in
somewhere
between
seven
and
ten.
He
wasn't
entirely
sure
on
that.
One
Cornwell's
has
ten
total.
He
doesn't
think
those
are
all
required
for
commercial
use
that
he
thought.
Historical
Society
had
ten
public
defender
for
Le
Barstow
has
five
or
six
that
are
somewhere
nearby,
that
are
deed,
restricted
for
commercial
use.
H
Wharton's
office
has
four
that
are
for
commercial
use.
Magic
video
has
ten,
they
have
other
spaces,
but
they
are
not
all
required
for
commercial
use
and
valent,
or
has
three
or
four.
So
those
are
the
numbers
that
Steve
came
up
with
I'm,
not
sure
where
they're
all
located
and
I
don't
know
how
difficult
it
would
be
to
actually
map
that
it
might
be
possible
to
put
the
businesses
that
are
required
to
have
parking.
You
know
on
the
map.
A
A
H
H
J
H
H
And
I
guess
it's
worth
exploring
this:
if
people
are
generally
supportive
of
the
idea
of
making
the
change,
if
people
are
not
generally
supportive
of
that
council
action
on
this
recommendation
could
be
to
say
we're
not
taking
it
out
of
committee,
we
don't
want
to
do
it.
So
that's
I
think
we
should
answer
that
question
before
we
spend
time
doing
them
and
money
doing
the
mapping,
because
we
do
have
a
contract
with
Elgar
to
do
this
mapping.
So
do
people
want
to
pursue
this.
A
L
H
L
Like
to
explore
those
two
issues,
the
liquor,
control,
permit
and
I
would
also
like
to
know
the
parking
and
the
other
thing,
because
there,
as
some
somebody
pointed
out,
there
was
precious
little
justification
for
doing
it
and
I
suspect
the
500
feet.
Rule
will
make
it
a
wash
anyway
and
then
the
main
objection
will
be
I,
don't
either
500
feet,
I
think.
Well,
we
put
all
of
them
still
having
to
have
parking
on
premises.
C
L
L
H
And
I
I
did
hear
a
concern
that
when
we
went
through
and
did
the
ball
control
change
around
the
height
that
that
you
know
some
time
and
I
think
a
feeling
that
if
we
do
say
that
we
need
another
change
to
happen,
that
we
bring
things
through
concurrently
at
that
point.
So
if
we
say
that
we
are
gonna,
we
want
to
go
back
to
the
500
feet.
We
should
do
the
500
feet
and
the
zoning
change
concurrently,
I.
Think
just
you
know,
because
this
has
taken
some
time
already.
X
C
H
H
This
is
a
question
from
Steve
Pearson
that
the
old
FN
city
code
said
that
demolition
permits
would
not
be
issued
until
the
applicant
furnished
the
director
of
Public
Safety,
with
proof
of
effective
liability
insurance
in
the
sum
of
$100,000
per
individual
$300,000
per
incident
and
50,000
in
property
insurance
with
an
exemption
if
they
were
demolishing
a
one-story
accesory
building
like
a
shed
in
their
back
yard
or
something.
So.
The
current
code
says
that
demolition
permits
require
proof
of
effective
liability
insurance
as
determined
by
ordinance,
and
it
looks
like
there
is
not
separately
determined
by
ordinance.
H
H
B
H
Y
Then
we're
done
right.
Thank
you,
Transportation
Committee
best
for
last.
Obviously,
first
item
is
Stuart.
Street
sidewalk,
essentially
just
wanted
to
update
Council
on
the
progress
of
that
assessment.
Notices
went
out
and
the
property
owners
have
until
May
25th
to
object,
and
writing
is
that
right,
Debbie
they
have
to
object.
May,
25th
and
writing
and
I've
also
been
instructed
that
Andy
has
given
them
until
July
15th
to
construct
if
they
do
object
and
that's
to
up
to
code
up
to
city
code.
So
that's
update
on
Sturge
trades
sidewalk.
Any
questions
on
that.
C
Y
Y
In
addition,
we
will
be
having
another
meeting
on
May
29th.
That's
a
Tuesday,
because
May
28th
is
Memorial
Day,
so
May
29th
at
5:30
p.m.
it
was
requested
that
it
be
a
little
earlier
to
give
more
time
for
these
meetings,
because
people
are
very
energized
and
energetic
and
want
to
participate
so
5:30
in
May.
29Th
mayor's
conference
room
same
time
same
place.
Excuse
me
any
questions
about
bicycle
safety
subcommittee
is.
Y
Y
It
is
my
understanding
that
she's
been
working
with
with
Larry
on
this
and
that
she's
also
talked
to
Ray
in
terms
of
where
the
better
location
would
be,
and
after
suggestions
and
discussion,
she
has
since
moved
the
street
location
between
Union
and
Washington,
that
block
of
Court
Street
to
house
what
she
projects
up
to
maybe
200
businesses
to
come
in
and
set
up
booths
and
talk
to
students
and
any
new
people
to
the
area
about
businesses
in
the
Uptown
area,
as
well
as
throughout
the
entire
city.
Y
The
event
is
from
11:00
a.m.
to
3:00
p.m.
and
she
said
that
she's
only
gonna
need
in
an
hour
for
set
up
and
clean
up,
but
I
want
to
double-check
that
with
Ray
and
make
sure
that's
enough
time
for
that,
so
after
I
get
that
figured
out,
I'll
be
bringing
that
to
first
reading,
possibly
next
week.
Any
questions
about
that.
All
right,
oh
I,
have
another
one.
Y
Other
miscellaneous
is
what
was
given
to
me
and
the
last
week,
which
I
have
not
had
the
time
to
go
through
a
read
and
I'll
pass
a
copy
around
everybody.
It's
about
a
traffic
code,
update
I,
guess
you
would
call
it
about
parades,
so
I'm.
Just
asking
that
council
read
over
this.
It's
part
of
the
code,
704
40
traffic
code,
processions
and
parades.
C
Y
B
Y
Oh,
it's
great
news
yeah!
So
there's
money
there
to
do
the
Central
Avenue
first
hippy!
Thank
you!
That's
all
I
had
for
miscellaneous
I.
Think!
Yes,
anybody
have
anything.
I
did
that
in
nine
minutes.
By
the
way
you.
B
M
M
Board
I'd
like
to
thank
Andy
stone
administration
for
meeting
with
us
tomorrow
and
just
like
to
bring
us
to
counsels
attention.
We
talked
about
this
briefly
in
the
past
and
the
Stewart
Street
was
a
long
time
coming,
but
we
have
some
serious
issues
on
Stimson,
Avenue
or
people
who
or
need
wheelchairs,
and
this
is
something
we've
been
discussed
for
the
last
couple
years
and
we've
run
meet
with
Andy
tomorrow,
like
I
said,
and
we
have
a
list
of
about
two
pages
of
recommendations
of
items
that
we
hopefully
could
be
corrected.
M
B
H
C
O
H
X
Y
I'm
sorry
I
did
have
one
more
miscellaneous.
If
you
remember
last
year
we
not
this
past
Street
tour,
but
the
year
before
we
went
down
to
the
garage
and
we
looked
at
two
trucks
who
live
at
the
113
and
the
120
I
camera,
which
ones
assigned
tracking
which
one's
the
the
yard
waste
truck.
But
they
look
very
similar
to
me,
but
I've
got
I
promised
pictures,
or
at
least
so
we
could
see.
You
know
what
we
did
in
terms
of
purchasing
new
trucks
and
the
updates
that
we
made
so
I'm
going
to
pass.
Y
The
pictures
around
the
old
ones
are
on
top
and
the
new
ones
are
on
the
bottom,
so
I'll
pass
those
around.
Those
are
the
two
different
trucks
that
we
bought
as
a
result
of
last
year's
ordinance,
and
this
year
Andy
has
stated
that
the
two-ton
truck
that
we
need
to
purchase
a
new
one
and
I
asked
him
for
a
number,
and
he
said
about
105
thousand
for
that
truck.