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A
Good
evening
welcome
death
and
city
council
tonight
is
Monday
April
10th
2006
this
evening,
City
Council
will
be
meeting
in
a
series
of
committee
meetings,
starting
with
communication,
the
north
recreation
city
services
and
environmental
finance
and
personnel
and
transportation
along
9
first
communications
committee.
Our
communication
with
chair
is
bluetooth.
B
Efficient
I
just
want
a
report
from
the
conversation
with
Council
that
occurred
tonight.
We
had
about
20
people,
it
was
a
lively
discussion.
We
had
representatives
of
people
who
were
interested
in
biking,
pedestrian
transportation,
buses
to
some
of
the
social
service
agents,
social
service
agencies
and
also
Ohio
University.
So
it
was
a
lively
discussion
and
I'll
have
minutes
up,
probably
by
the
weekend
on
the
city's
website.
But
Carol
do
you
want
to
say
something
about
the
conversation
tonight?
Just.
C
That
I
was
very
pleased
with
the
number
of
groups
that
were
represented
and
the
number
of
people
there
and
I
think
that
it
clearly
showed
that
we
need
to
continue
some
public
discussions
and
hope
that
many
of
those
folks
will
be
able
to
attend
on
May
4th
the
presentation
of
the
consultant
in
this
room
at
9:30
in
the
morning.
And
then,
following
that
event,
we
will
plan
another
public
meeting
for
people
that
have
input
on
when
they're
presented
plans.
And
why?
Where
do
we
go
from
here
and.
B
I
just
would
like
to
announce
the
next
conversation,
which
is
going
to
be
two
weeks
from
today
and
I'm,
not
sure
of
the
date.
Actually
today
is
the
10th,
so
that
would
that
be
the
24th
6
p.m.
and
the
topic
is
going
to
be
city
communication.
What
we'll
be
talking
about
is
maybe
what
folks
would
like
to
see
on
the
city
website
and
what
folks
might
like
to
see
in
terms
of
programming
on
the
government
channel
and
given
staffing.
Of
course,
we
can't
promise
that
we
can.
B
We
can
deliver
all
these
things,
but
there's
a
discussion
because
we
will
have
a
plan
brought
forth
about
the
kind
of
program.
We
would
like
to
see
some
learn
by
the
input
from
citizens
on
what
kinds
of
informations
they'd
like
that
kind
of
access
to.
So
that's
it
two
weeks
from
now
conversation
with
council
and
any
miscellaneous
or
communications
community
members,
all
right
so
Communications
Committee
is
a
journey.
C
D
Mailboxes,
rather
large
packet,
where
information
is
gathered
by
describe
one
committee,
was
prior
to
report
that
a
lot
of
things
that
were
done
after
that
I
think.
The
main
points
that
I
would
want
to
address
tonight
are
the
things
that
you
had
in
your
resolution
of
December,
rather
than
go
into
each
item
individually,
that
a
council
members
wish
to.
We,
of
course,
have
a
map
as
drought-prone
back
here
of
a
mission
statement
and
most
of
the
advisory
committee
is
here
plus
two
representatives
from
the
Ohio
Department
of
Natural
Resources
are
here
in
case.
D
You
have
any
questions
with
respect
to
the
agreements.
Would
a
number
of
different
sub
agencies
of
the
Iowa
Department
of
Natural
Resources,
along
with
the
court
room
with
the
state
for
the
actual
transfer
of
the
property?
We
also
have
come
suppose
a
contractor
proposed
contract
with
the
Division
of
Wildlife,
who
would
still
be
managing
the
wildlife
in
the
area
advising
us,
but
also
helping
us
post.
The
areas
for
funding,
make
sure
licensed
hunters
are
using
the
park
and
other
assistance
in
those
areas.
D
I
think
that
the
task
that
we
had
before
it
was
number
one
to
better
define
what
the
agreement
with
me
would
be
either
partners,
Natural,
Resources
and
that
isn't
contained
in
your
packet
I
think
the
main
thing
is
to
go
over
in
that
is
that
in
the
beginning
is
page
2
of
the
government.
After
a
lot
of
I
swear
asses,
he
says
the
state
will
be
transferred
to
the
city
of
Athens
Strauss,
one
state
park
elsewhere.
That
excludes
the
dam.
D
The
reasoning
that
that
was
in
our
original
recommendation
for
excluding
the
dam
is
that
there
is
some
degree
of
damage,
as
we
would
have
with
anything
that's
over
50
years
old.
There
are
some
erosion
etc
on
that,
and
that
is
on
the
list
of
dams
and
maintained
by
over
DNR
now,
and
it
will
continue
to
be
under
the
terms
of
this
agreement
is
a
provision.
D
That,
if
whatever
eat
meat
or
exceed
then
current
state
standards
and
could
then
be
transferred
to
the
city,
but
it's
the
feeling
of
the
committee
that
since
it's
a
dam,
that's
over
50
years
old,
it
almost
have
to
be
entirely
rebuilt
to
get
to
current
standards
because
of
the
passage
of
time
as
much
as
anything
else.
But
it
is
there
as
a
possibility.
D
The
other
thing
is
an
elk
provision
that
chief
West
and
I
both
agreed
to
was
that,
even
though
the
transfer
would
occur
either
party
could
have
a
year
in
which
they
could
find
out
in
that
first
year
and
oops.
This
isn't
exactly
what
we
bought
from
the
city
stamp
or
it's
more
than
we
want
to
take
on,
etc.
We
have
to
have
the
right
to
have
that
revert
back
to
the
state
of
mind.
Same
thing
is
incumbent
upon
the
hot
doctor,
the
natural
resources
of
their
mission
and
charter,
to
have
that
same.
D
F
D
It's
natural
to
have
an
out
on
the
something
of
this
magnitude
by
both
parties
at
the
beginning.
It
also
spells
out
in
there
that
the
city
of
cannot
lease
or
sell
off
and,
if
drove,
to
run
State
Park
to
another
entity,
we
can
only
give
it
back
to
the
state
of
Ohio
and
I.
Think
that's
something
that
we
want
to
preserve
that
area
as
a
park
that
that's
acceptable
and
really
very
necessary.
For
us.
There
are
a
number
of
other
little
provisions
in
there,
such
as
the
equipment
that
would
be
transferred
into
the
city.
D
That
we
would
still
offer
the
recreational
opportunities
to
a
general
public
that
traditionally,
with
this
type
of
the
park,
that
you
a
Department
of
Natural
Resources,
would
which
would
include
the
fishing
and
boating
hiking
trails,
the
things
that
are
out
there.
You
know
today,
and
then
they
have
a
list
of
equipment
that
are
there
and
we
have.
D
Of
additional
Canadians
they
either
party
should
come
up
with
the
way.
The
reason
that
we
left
this
flight
at
this
stage
in
the
document
is
one
we
had
a
public
meeting
Thursday
night,
the
Advisory
Committee
did,
and
there
were
some
suggestions
in
there
that
we
put
in
the
agreement
some
restriction
that,
for
example,
that
we,
the
city,
would
not
permit
commercial
logging
within
the
park.
D
D
So
that
we,
you
know,
give
you
those
agreements
that
would
be
and
time
with
the
state
and
a
city
would
be
agreed
to.
The
other
item
that
was
I
think
for
most
in
what
council
had
done
was
to
try
to
solidify
more
of
the
funding
aspects
of
it
and
what
was
done
first,
and
that
was
that
we
looked
and
said.
D
No
vision
of
watercraft
has
grant
funds
available
to
improve
dock
areas,
so
that
would
be
something
we
would
be
eligible
to
do.
They
have
to
fight
or
argue,
I
guess
present
their
case
of
all
the
state
parks,
there's
only
so
much
available
for
them
for
part.
So
I
was
proud
run
for
this
case
against
all
the
others,
whereas
here
it's
a
different
pool
of
money,
it's
a
different
competition
area
and
potentially
our
opportunity
would
be
greater
than
the
management
current
management
ourselves,
our
own
State
Park.
D
The
other
thing
we
looked
at
that
in
the
budget
would
be
timing
aspect
1,
don't
start
out
play
so
ambitiously
that
we
have
a
staff
at
the
community
center
and
in
parks
and
recreation.
We
have
people
that
man
the
front
desk.
We
have
a
lot
of
assets
there
that
we
can
use.
We
do
not
necessarily
at
the
beginning
believe
we
need
a
full-time
employee.
We
think
that's
a
goal
we
should
get
to
and
it's
in
the
five-year
plan,
but
it
doesn't
start
out
that
way.
D
It
starts
out
with
part-time
employees,
which
lowers
the
cost
to
the
budgets.
There
have
been
various
numbers
and
newspapers
lately,
but
we're
thinking
first
year,
operation
in
the
115
to
120
thousand
dollar
range,
but
it
would
eventually
get
up
to
the
hundred
and
fifty
two
hundred
and
seventy
four
thousand
dollar
range
now
remember.
This
is
under
a
certain
concept
of
operation
of
the
park
that
we're
not
doing
a
lot
of
capital
improvements
to
it,
we're
not
expanding
recreational
opportunities
at
City
expense.
D
It
leaves
it
open
that
we
have
grants
that
potentially
there
and
also
leaves
it
open
to
many
of
the
organizations.
What
I
like
to
call
the
stakeholders
in
the
park,
such
as
the
athletes,
Bicycle
Club
or
the
horsemen's
Association
bondo
Club,
others
that
use
the
park
now
have
already
been
a
lot
really
working
to
improve
some
of
the
trails
and
facilities
there
to
continue
in
that
capacity,
and
it's
really
as
much
as
their
membership
and
their
desires
are
as
to
how
far
that
would
be.
D
So
it's
really
not
something
I
built
into
a
budget,
but
it's
something
that
we
courage
at
all
times
in
the
budgeting
there.
We
also
are
looking
at
tying
down
money
and,
of
course,
the
the
first
part.
One
is
from
the
department
itself.
They
would
give
forty
nine
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
for
whatever
means
that
the
city
would
have,
or
as
long
as
it
was
forced
out
from
the
State
Department
that
would
be
in
the
first
year.
D
We
also,
as
you
go
through
your
packet
and
I,
think
one
letter
came
in
a
little
later
today
and
I
put
it
as
a
separate
copy
with
received
commitments
from
the
College
of
Health
and
Human
Services
for
$10,000
per
year.
For
five
years
we
have
received
a
commitment
from
Campus
Recreation
for
$5,000
per
year
for
five
years.
You
never
seen
the
commitment
from
the
Dean
of
the
College
of
Fine
Arts
for
$10,000
per
year
for
five
years,
so
that
dies
down
an
additional
$25,000
have
funded
for
five
years.
D
Also
in
your
packet
was
a
copy
of
a
letter
that
I
sent
out
to
some
various
foundations
and
we
have
a
list
of
foundations
you
have
to
go
to,
but
we
sent
letters
to
the
Raven
Cooke
foundation,
which
is
dedicated
only
to
half
in
this
county.
We
sent
a
letter
to
the
8p
foundation,
I
sent
a
letter,
did
they
know
something
osteopathic
Heritage
Foundation
and
we
have
compiled
a
list
of
other
foundations.
D
We
wanted
to
see
if
they
would
be
major
donors
to
part.
In
addition
to
that,
we
are
what
had
started
to
gather
up
a
list
of
local
businesses
or
civic
organizations
to
see
what
I
would
call
sponsorships
of
items
at
the
Stroud's
from
the
third
level.
Funding
that
we're
looking
for
is
the
Friends
of
Straus
run
where
individuals
would
be
able
to
make
a
contribution
of
10
to
20
of
them,
whatever
they
would
wish
to
make.
It
would
be
probably
an
annual
fundraising
drive.
These
will
all
go
into
endowment
funds.
D
You
look
closely
at
your
budget.
You
see
a
twenty
four
thousand
dollar
revenue
item
in
the
year
five.
What
that
means
is
that
the
endowment
would
have
grown
to
almost
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
by
that
time,
and
that
would
be
the
contribution
that
will
start
coming
in.
This
is
a
yes,
because
it
depends
upon
others.
We
are
on
the
fundraising
you,
for
the
part
to
note
is
the
commitment
toward
fundraising
that
that's
there.
G
D
D
If
you
wish
them
to
do
anymore,
yep
or
just
to
get
what
they're
thinking
gosh
I
could
probably
talk
about
strategy
on
another
hour
without
any
trouble,
but
I
won't
because
I
know
I've
got
a
lot
of
the
number
of
the
members
of
the
advisory
committee
here
and
also
the
potential
for
some
of
the
council
members.
They
have
any
questions
or
things.
I
have
I'll
just
sort
of
your
presentation
to
have
I'd.
A
H
Person
creation
our
central
office
I'm,
the
Planning
section
manager,
and
we
feel
that
this
is
an
excellent
opportunity
to
improve
this
resource
and
to
keep
this
resource
pretty
much
the
way
the
folks
here,
Stroud's
have
pretty
much
managed
its
entire
time.
We
are
changing
the
way
we
manage
facilities.
H
We're
used
to
be
upon
a
time
that
we
had
a
park
manager
in
every
Park.
Not-So-Distant
I've
been
a
perk
manager
for
17
years
and
I
got
out
of
the
three
years
ago,
moved
to
Columbus
and
at
that
fund
was
almost
a
park
manager
in
every
Park.
Now,
there's
25
or
so
parks
that
have
management
teams
in
I
think
there's
25
26
management
teams.
We
call
them
regions
and
we
manage
those
parks
within
that
region,
basically
as
a
unit.
H
So,
whereas
Stroud's
run
used
to
be
run
as
a
park,
it's
now
run
as
part
of
a
3-part
region,
forked
Ron's,
baroque,
minstrel
drunk
honestly.
Our
resources
go
where
the
most
people
go
and
where
the
best
use
of
those
resources
can
be
applied,
and
so
some
of
your
smaller
parks
are
some
of
the
parks
that
are
a
little
bit
distance
from
some
of
our
resources,
such
as
lodges
or
large
marinas,
have
a
tendency
to
have
less
support
larger
parks,
this
all
ports,
the
deer,
creaks
creaks,.
H
H
The
facts
of
life
are
there's
very
few
capital
dollars
to
screw
around
and
those
capital
dollars
are
going
to
the
regions
to
do
with
within
the
region's,
as
they
see
not
trying
to
evade
a
question.
I
just
I
can't
tell
you
what
the
future
is
going
to
be.
I
can't
tell
you
what
the
next
capital
budgets
going
to
be.
I
H
Would
try
to
maintain
the
park
pretty
much
the
way
it
is
today
and
it's
my
belief
that
that's
less
than
it
was
ten
years
ago.
I
know.
10
years
ago
there
were
I
believe
I
read
in
the
newspaper
article
today
I
think
there
were
three
Park
Rangers
there.
There
was
a
park
manager
there.
They
probably
at
one
time,
had
a
natural
staff
that
would
go
through
the
park.
The
problem
we
had
campground
attendants
and
that's
just
not
happening.
I
I
H
I
A
D
Another
clause
we
could
put
it
back,
you
know
it's
just
giving
a
statement
apart.
I,
don't
know
that
America,
don't
know
what
the
advantage
to
put
into
the
agreement
is
just
from
the
standpoint
that
the
only
penalty
is
returning
over
the
statements
that
they've
already
adopted
that
policy
under
another
there
we
go
that
doesn't
do
us
any
good.
What
boils
down
to
is
as
a
matter
of
public
policy
by
future
mayors
and
future
councils.
Would
you
or
would
you
not
do
that
and
we
can't
answer
to
those
future
councils
or
future
matters?
D
J
D
To
go
through
every
one
and
say:
okay:
I've
been
always
excluded
from
this
or
not
because
a
humongous
task.
We
believe,
because
no
activity
is
occurring
out
there,
that
we're
not
aware
of
anything
right
now
that
since
those
purchases
were
made,
what
50
to
55
years
ago
that
in
all
likelihood,
there's
no
activities
much
for
anything
like.
But
if
somebody
reword
mineral
rights
and
one
of
the
staff
of
the
box,
we
don't
know
that
again
so
I
hated
the
maple
I
could
sit
with
a
finalist.
I
did
won't
do
that.
B
B
B
B
G
A
Not
hearing,
though,
that
anything
would
preclude
the
city
after
a
year
so
that
if
and
I
hesitate
even
asked
us,
because
a
lot
of
ideas
have
been
thrown
out,
many
of
us
have
probably
already
been
disbanded,
but
and
I
don't
want
this
to
become.
Is
this
what
the
city
who
secretly
wants
to
do,
but
a
road
from
East
State
Street
even
to
the
top
of
the
bridge,
a
possible
Lodge
overlooking
Strauss
run?
A
D
Not
without
massive
changed
infrastructure,
there's
no
sewer
out
that
way.
There's
a
navigable
water
to
do
that
kind
of
facility
and,
as
you
say,
it
would
take
a
lot
of
permission
from
the
AIA
Department
of
Transportation
to
get
a
new
access
point
off
of
the
US
Route
33.
So
all
of
those
preclude
that
I
think
that
the
only
discussions
I've
heard
within
the
Advisory
Committee
is.
If
we
wanted
to
have
a
small
Nature
Center
over
here,
one
more
education
classes
for
grade
school,
high
school
college,
age
or
adult
education.
D
Then
you
need
the
house
that
somewhere
and
would
it
not
work
within
the
current
barn
and
house
and
other
structures,
something
like
that
might
be
looked
at.
But
one
of
the
things
to
remember
is
that
one
of
the
original
goals
of
this
project
was
to
protect
the
watershed
of
about
5,000
acres
and
the
original
goal
was
to
buy
it
all
and
they
have
a
half
of
it
and.
D
Unless
you
sewer
that
River
Basin
you're
probably
going
to
have
a
water
quality
issue,
so
you
don't
want
and
cannot
realistically
do
anything
high
impact
in
that
from
facilities
to
employ.
Unless
you
build
a
sewer
line,
if
we
hit
the
lottery
or
something
and
get
it
next
to
30
or
40
million
I
guess
we
could
I
hope.
That's
not
it's
not
within
the
mission,
as
you
can
look
behind
me,
I
mean
dr.
D
D
But
we
need
to
improve
the
things
that
John
Maus
and
Peter
Kostis
and
other
people
are
doing
out
there
in
the
trails
the
horsemen's
Association
is
doing
with
the
bridle
trails
and
I.
Think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
II
didn't
talk
about
it.
Dan
West,
the
chief
for
the
parks
and
I,
have
talked
about
quite
a
bit.
D
They
can
try
to
do
some
things
that
in
all
likelihood,
it's
a
brand
new
source
of
money
that
the
state
to
never
develop.
It
is
the
commitment
with
us
with
this.
Drought
were
on
the
committee,
the
Friends
of
Straus,
run
and
city
government
to
try
to
utilize
and
develop
those
that's
kind
of
the
risk
we're
taking,
but.
I
Okay,
the
one
year
Clause,
considering
how
fast
see
government
sometimes
runs,
would
it
be
viable
to
have
a
longer
the
clause
or
several
stop?
You
know
drop-dead
dates
or
a
sunset
based
I,
don't
care
what
you
call
I
mean
one
year
is
nice,
but
we
we
have
response
time
with
a
firm,
some
time
hearing.
You
know
two
years
down
the
line
they
decide.
You
know
first
year
when
they
think
that's
all
rosy.
Five
years
from
now,
we
may
be
looking
at
a
disaster
and
say:
okay,
we
need
assistance.
We
need
to
do
something
about
it.
H
It's
something
that
we
could
come
back
and
visit
I,
don't
think
that
our
division
and
I
give
you
a
definitive
answer
on
this,
but
I
don't
think
the
division
would
be
interested
in
a
two
or
three
or
four,
because
we
need
to
speak
for
our
administration
or
current
administration.
We
can't
commit
another
administration
to
anything.
D
D
L
G
D
Would
be
a
decision
for
that
vente
administration,
where
there's
a
different
mayor
of
ten
years
now
on
I,
probably
bring
a
little
guarantee
but
a
new
governor
because
they
are
their
turn
eliminated
sexually
yeah.
It's
something
that
if
the
city
really
says
I
don't
want
to
do
this
anymore.
You
always
have
the
right
I.
Think
under
this
agreement
to
go
back
to
the
state
and
say
I'm
going
to
sell
it
off
and
I
should
take
it
back.
I
think.
H
L
M
In
the
whereas,
at
the
beginning,
it
talks
about
the
forty
nine
five
from
Division
of
Parks
and
Rec
to
be
combined
with
$15,000,
for
the
combined
total.
Is
that
all
of
these
funds
that
are
in
the
spreadsheet
that
you're
referring
to
the
the
combination
of
projected
earned
income
or
is
that
sixty
two
thousand
dollars
come
in
from
somewhere?
That.
D
N
Doug
Franklin
I'm,
the
assistant
dean
for
recreation
and
wellness
to
Ohio
University
I
constructed
this
monster
budget
for
five
years.
It's
based
on
a
concept
that
no
business
operation
should
ever
start
out
unless
they
actually
know
what
it's
going
to
happen
over
the
next
five
years.
I
built
this
in
such
a
way
that
the
49
5,
because
I
didn't
want
to
count
it
up
as
operational
dollars.
N
It
would
go
in
to
a
capital
replacement
type
of
plan
that
would
be
basically
used
to
the
jump
start
any
kind
of
endowment
so
that
you
would
go
in
and
you'd
be
able
to
draw,
because
eventually
you're
going
to
be
drawn
interest
on
that
endowment
for
operations,
and
so
the
operations
piece
runs
out
at
about
total
revenue
of
a
hundred
and
fifty
seven
thousand
was
the
original
estimate
we're
both
believe
now.
One
hundred
and
eighteen,
eight,
some
of
that
money
come
from
the
city
of
Athens.
N
Some
of
that
money
comes
from
Ohio
University
match
some
of
that
money
comes
from
sponsorships
and
gun-range
donations
and
a
variety
of
other
income.
So,
basically,
it's
income
over
expense
should
be
money
at
the
end
of
the
year
to
put
towards
that
endowment
under
carrying
the
balance
forward
every
year
for
five
years,
I'm,
not
exactly
sure
mayor
where
you
got
the
five
hundred
thousand
from
I'm,
a
very
conservative
estimator.
N
When
you
started
I
know,
campus
recreation
is
larger
now
than
when
we
started
in
1995-1996,
businesses
tend
to
grow,
you
try
to
control
expenses
and
you
try
to
generate
more
revenue
and
that's
basically
what
I've
I've
allocated
or
I've
acknowledged
here.
The
expense
assumes
a
growth
rate
based
on
three
percent
of
the
cost-of-living
increase
or
Consumer
Price
Index,
it's
not
until
the
final
year
that
we
bring
on
a
person
to
actually
manage
this
thing
that
allows
you
a
flexibility
of
about
fifty
five
to
sixty
thousand
dollars
in
your
budget.
N
The
one
thing,
mr.
buyers
about
the
concept
of
a
lodge
that
pretty
much
was
dismissed
within
the
first
three
months
of
discussion.
I,
also
let
a
group
of
students
to
do
enact
the
study
and
we
did
a
qualitative
and
quantitative
study
of
this,
and
we
came
up
with
what's
fondly
called
Doug's
paradox,
and
that
is
the
more
money
that
you
put
into
capital
items
like
a
lodge
the
more
money,
you'll
lose
for
money,
you'll
make
more
money,
you'll
lose,
and
so
pretty
much
after
that.
N
First,
that
that
initial
report,
we
decided
that
this
was
not
a
smart
thing
to
do
what
we
really
wanted
to
do,
and
it
was.
It
was
kind
of
nice
for
everybody
to
come
together,
because,
quite
frankly,
the
naturalist
wanted
to
keep
it
natural.
The
regulation
people
wanted
just
to
have
pretty
low
impact
recreation
activities.
We
wanted
to
make
it
a
family
park.
We
did
not
want
to
make
it
a
borough
we
did
not
want
to
make.
It
certainly
doesn't
want
to
make
it
a
cedar
park
or
Walley
world
or
whatever
it's
very
nice.
N
The
number
one
thing
that
came
out
of
all
of
the
surveys
and
all
of
the
information
sessions,
or
actually
this
concept
of
it's
a
quiet,
serene
place.
It's
a
nice
place
to
go,
walk
and
that's
what
we
liked
about
it.
And
so
you
can
see
the
vision
you
can
see
the
mission.
There
is
no
intention
on
our
part
certainly,
and
we
would
hope
that
we
would
have
some
input
on
the
future
of
the
operation
that
that
Park
is
going
to
say
as
as
natural
as
possible.
M
N
N
Ma'am
I'm
about
to
swing
that
this
is
not,
and
this
is
not
knock
on
in
our,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
revenue
generation
capabilities
out
their
possibilities.
People
are
interested
in
doing
certain
things.
There's
no
sponsorships
out
there.
Right
now.
For
an
example,
the
crew
team
pays
$35
a
year,
Macra
closest
aides,
regatta
out
there
for
$35
for
an
event,
I
charged
$35
for
a
basketball
court
for
one
hours,
there's
revenue
generation
capability.
There
I've
gone
through
kind
of
looking
at
it.
N
Unfortunately,
this
is
kind
of
blocked
out
in
the
in
the
reproduction,
but
where
I
have
campsite
rental,
basically
it
might
be
an
increase
in
campsite
rental.
It
might
be
an
increase
in
herb
campsite
rental.
It
might
be
an
increase
in
boat
rental.
It
might
be
an
increase
in
a
variety
of
different
things.
We
don't
rent
shelters
or
we
don't
rent
them
for
enough
money,
and
so
really
it's
right
pricing.
What
you
have
out
there
eventually
we'll
draw
sponsorship,
because
we'll
actually
have
some
some
more
focus
out
there.
N
Once
the
park
starts
to
grow,
you'll
start
to
get
more
people
that
are
interested
people
like
to
sponsor
things.
When
they
see
a
lot
of
people
going
out
there
and
and
what
we
would
hope
to
be
able
to
do
is
at
the
end
of
the
year
of
two
years
or
three
years,
we
can
go
to
a
company
and
say
you'll,
get
50
thousand
hits
you'll
get
50
thousand
visits
that
will
walk
by
and
see
this
time.
N
B
B
N
There's
there
is,
there
is
people
out
there,
there's
no
full-time
personnel,
there's
a
part-time
at
seasonal
personnel.
So
it's
basically
right
sizing
the
personnel
out
there
question
is:
do
you
need
to
hire
a
full-time
person
and
manage
that
or
do
you
hire
you
know?
Historically,
recreation.
Young
recreation
professionals
are
seasonal.
I
got
my
first
job
as
a
seasonal
recreational
manager
for
a
park.
Yeah.
N
I
N
I
F
G
L
N
D
G
M
D
Money
is
whether
they're
new,
this
additional
one,
they
could
be
expanded.
Work
for
an
existing
employee
was
additional
money.
We
did
not
mention
in
here
in
the
budgets.
Anyone
that
was
this
item
cost
of
city
from
the
service
labor
under
clerical
support.
We
added
that
is
a
cost,
and
that
is
this
because
we
don't
think
we're
going
to
have
to
add
anybody
to
the
front
desk
or
community
center
and
that's
where
you
would
take
long
phone
or
online
registration
for
campsites,
etc.
D
Also
for
right
now
we're
running
programs
there
this
summer,
kayaking
and
other
other
things.
We
run
that
through
there,
so
we
recognize
the
expense,
but
it
just
could
be
more
of
a
sheer
expense.
But
when
you're
talking
about
concessions,
maintenance
needs
a
little
maintenance
concessions,
offseason
yeah,
that's
only
two
people.
B
Exchanged
I
was
at
the
public
meeting
the
other
night
and
I
think
there
was
a
discussion
of
signage
as
I
was
thinking.
If
we
do
this
or
when
we
do,
this
I
think
do
it
well
yeah
and
that's
why
I
was
concerned
about
personnel
being
there
to
sell
the
services,
but
also
is
there
some
discussion
of
improved
signage?
Maybe.
L
B
D
Say,
sign
is
I,
said,
I,
think
they're
different
thing
to
me.
Right
now.
We
do
not
heavily
promote
on
the
government
channel
or
city's
website
anything
about
Strauss
Road.
We
will
we'll
have
maps
how
we
get
to
did
it
will
have
more
activities.
There
is
Campus,
Recreation
is
pleading
$5,000
a
year
into
you.
Can
that
remit
on
their
brochures
things
you
can
do.
It's
crowds
runs,
but
definitely
going.
D
J
O
K
M
B
D
We've
tried
to
give
to.
You
is
a
bare-bones,
but
if
you
want
to
give
it,
it's
been
more
perfect,
certainly
within
your
priorities
or
if
we
find
other
grants
or
other
items
that
one
do
those
things
here,
we're
going
to
look
for,
but
I
thought
realistically
I
could
pretty
well
guarantee
you
will
they'll
have
to
spend
about
that
much
money
to
do
it,
and
these
are
some
sources
we've
identified
with
a
peb
portion
of
it
and
some
revenue
sources,
city
funds.
E
G
C
They're
very
knowledgeable
about
what's
been
done
over
the
time
that
they've
met
weekly
for
a
very
long
time
and
put
in
a
great
deal
of
hard
work
and
they're
a
very
impassioned
group
of
people
and
can
answer
just
about
any
question
that
you
have
I
feel
that
this
is
a
magnificent
opportunity
for
the
city
to
have
this
beautiful
piece
of
property.
And
you
know
it's
a
premier
spot
for
the
regions
and
the
state
it
it's
ours.
C
C
I
am
assuming
that
the
first
thing
would
be
to
pass
an
ordinance
that
would
met
the
mayor
to
enter
into
the
agreements.
Now
we
can
make
suggestions
of
what
we
added
to
the
agreements.
In
terms
of
you
know
some
of
the
things
to
timber,
the
gas
and
oil
that
we've
talked
about
anything
else.
That
council
has
ideas
about,
but
then
allow
the
mayor
to
enter
into
the
state
agreement.
We
also
can
suggest
the
mayor
enter
into
grant
pursuits
in
agreements
for
the
future.
C
I
know
that
some
of
the
questions
that
we've
talked
about
is
is
the
datum
included,
and
it's
been
assured
by
ODNR
that,
yes,
it
is,
and
the
details
of
oh
you
and
what
exactly
will
be
contributed
there
is,
is
not
necessarily
complete
at
this
time.
As
tamara
has
said
this
plan,
this
presentation
that
they've
brought
to
you
is
broad
enough
that
it
can
be
fleshed
out
over
the
future.
C
They
deliberately
didn't
attend
to
little
details
of
how
things
would
be
handled
and
where
votes
would
come
from,
and
in
that
kind
of
thing
it
would
be
an
ongoing
discussion
with
council
ongoing
management
with
the
city
in
terms
of
how
it
would
be
run
timewise
the
Audion
are
would
like
for
us
to
have
this
past
in
June,
so
that
it
is
passed
in
this
fiscal
year.
July
1
is
the
fiscal
year
change.
C
I
know
that's
been
a
little
bit
of
a
hazy
question
taking
over
management
of
the
park
at
the
end
of
this
season,
so
we
would
not
be
responsible
for
this
season,
but
they
would
like
for
us
to
enter
into
the
agreement
in
this
fiscal
year
now.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
open
the
discussion
to
Council
for
other
points
and
then,
as
you've
got
specific
questions,
I'm
sure
that
some
of
the
folks
here
may
want
to
leap
up
and
come
and
answer
them
so
comments
and
questions
from
Council.
Mr.
Sam
just.
B
I
think
this
is
a
very
exciting
opportunity
to
do.
I
think
it's
beautiful
property
and
I
think
that
task
force
did
a
really
good
job
in
thinking
it
through.
You
meant
that
pass
it
prior
to
June,
not
necessarily
injured
prior
to
July
1.
Yes,.
C
P
C
O
Just
wondering
why
do
I
have
I
actually
have
a
very
serious
question,
and
that
was
just
a
speculative
question.
Cuz,
it
seems
of
although
difficult
things
come
with
that
attachment.
I
have
only
heard
from
my
constituents
that
they
weren't,
particularly
except
for
David
they.
They
are
particularly
crazy
about
this
idea.
They're
worried
about
the
police
and
the
rest-
and
it
seems
to
me,
is
that
it's
a
little
bit
on
that.
We're
gonna
accept
this
pig
in
the
poke
for
an
unknown
amount
of
money
with
lots
of
speculation.
Maybe
they
call
yourself
conservative.
O
Maybe
somebody
else
says
liberal
who
cares
and
then
there's
a
theoretical
go
to
the
voters
for
money
to
cover
our
core
mission
and
they
think
they're.
A
lot
of
people
are
concerned
about
us
doing
that
as
they
were
about
some
other
things,
we've
done,
and
so
I
guess
I'm
at
the
point
where
I
really
want
to
know
exactly
what
will
be
the
cost
and
I.
Don't
think
I
still
know
them.
I've
looked
at
this
and
you
know-
and
nobody
can
promise
me
anything.
It's
all
I've
done.
O
I
did
recreation
in
an
earlier
life
and
I
know
how
they
count.
I'm
concerned
that
our
own
Recreation
Department
isn't
the
most
efficient
thing.
That's
on
the
earth.
The
Maximus
study
says
that
as
well,
and
so
in
addition
to
my
question
about
conflicts
and
people
who
may
benefit
from
this
I'm,
also
interested
in
how
we're
going
to
justify
it.
I
would
like
to
know
what
our
insurance
costs
will
be
with
this
additional
amount,
what
our
service
costs?
O
What
are
we
going
to
make
the
city
garbage
users
pay
the
cost
of
picking
up
the
garbage
out
there
I
hope,
not
because
I
don't
think
that
would
be
fair
and
equitable
and
I
think
that
that
should
be
included
in
the
class
here.
Are
we
gonna?
O
Will
the
sheriff
do
this
I've
heard
from
people
that
the
sheriff
said
he'll
charge
us
I
live
on
the
way
to
Strauss,
run
and
I
know
that
on
a
Sunday
afternoon,
you
might
have
several
runs
when
somebody
nearly
drowns
I'd
like
to
know
what
our
liability
costs
are
with
respect
to
this,
if
it's
our,
if
it's
our
particular
thing,
because
it's
not
it's
not
clear
to
me
that
we're
not
buying
something,
that's
going
to
be
enormous,
ly
difficult
for
us
to
gauge
the
cost
of
its
it's
a
big
of
a
poke
to
use
an
alternate.
O
Basically,
it
may
be
wonderful,
but
I'm
very
concerned
about
it
and
David
you
vote
for
me.
Every
night,
nice
probably
won't
change
my
mind
I'm
with
you
on
some
things,
and
you
know
they
are.
E
P
N
K
O
O
N
Told
me
directly
when
I
asked
him
that
question,
so
we
built
our
budget
based
on
the
concept
that
we
did
not
have
additional
security
charges
based
on
those
specific
questions.
I
also
talked
to
the
Ohio
University
police
chief.
There
is
a
an
agreement
in
Athens
county
between
the
sheriff,
the
police
department,
OUP
D
and
the
Highway
Patrol
as
far
as
responders,
like
I,
can't
be
any
more
specific
than
that
and
I
can't
be
any
more
clear
than
that.
There
will
be
no
more
charges
for,
but.
O
J
E
E
E
The
protection
of
the
natural
quality
of
the
park
that
the
city
has
available
expertise,
quality
management
that
Ohio
University
through
several
departments,
has
demonstrated
a
commitment,
be
a
part
of
the
use,
management
and
scientific
study
of
the
part
and
that
the
nature
of
relatively
restricted
access
to
the
park
already
places
as
somewhat
off
the
beaten
path
for
tourists
while
being
more
accessible
to
city
residents.
Now
I
also
want
to
mention
you
know
we
have
the
capacity
to
undergo
a
very
good
planning
process
here.
E
What's
in
the
plan
is
just
the
very
bare
beginnings
of
a
discussion
now
nothing
more
than
that
at
this
point,
but
a
critical
point,
we're
talking
about
the
status
of
the
park
and
what
its
future
will
be
if
the
city
does
not
take
it
over
and
there's
a
critical
point
that
was
not
addressed.
There
have
already
been
serious
problems
at
certain
times
with
water
quality
beauty
in
the
lake
or
at
least
serious
questions
have
arisen
in
order
to
maintain
good
water
quality
in
this
lake.
Good
watershed
management
is
necessary.
E
The
city
is
poised
to
put
together
a
watershed
management
plan
and
to
try
to
implement
such
a
plan
to
continue
usable
water
quality
in
this
lake.
This
is
not
really
within
the
state's
plan
of
operations
because
they
have
too
many
other
irons
in
the
fire.
This
is
not
a
practical
thing
for
them
to
do.
It
is
a
practical
thing
for
the
city
to
do
and
that's
an
important
point.
E
The
lake
is
a
centerpiece
of
that
park
and
if
the
lakes,
water
quality
deteriorates
with
further
development
within
the
basin,
to
the
point
where
the
lake
is
not
usable
for
water
contact
sports,
then
we
really
do
have
a
serious
problem,
whereas
the
city
can
ensure-
or
at
least
is
in
a
better
position
to
ensure
that
water
quality
can
be
maintained
in
the
lake.
Thank
you.
Let.
O
G
O
E
Athens
Conservancy
has
already
arranged
to
acquire
75
additional
acres
within
the
watershed
that
they
will
be.
Turning
over
to
the
city.
We
are
looking
at
the
possibility
of
acquiring
another
two
hundred,
sixty
acres,
possibly
in
cooperation
with
the
city.
We
have
the
capacity
she
8
conservation,
easements
to
ensure
greater
quality
of
the
land,
and
the
city
will
have
more
more
of
a
basis
to
act
on
things
like
restricting
the
subdivision
with
the
area
and
so
forth,
but.
O
O
Guess
that,
with
all
due
respect,
Carol
I
think
that
then
we're
talking
about
this
there's
all
this
promise
that
we'll
come
back
to
Council
and
I've.
Seldom
seen
things
come
back
to
council
I
think
this
is
the
time
to
get
the
issues
out
and
get
them.
Spatula
I
agree.
O
Q
Q
If
the
state
continues
to
manage
pro
tunc
vote
the
facility,
there
won't
be
a
management
plan
written
by
the
state
for
the
park,
so
even
if
it
was,
if
it
maintained
in
state
ownership,
any
management
plan
would
probably
be
written
by
a
group
of
volunteers
and
the
city,
because
there
is
a
water
quality
issue
and
watershed
management
is
something
that
needs
to
happen.
You
know
there
are
other
ways
of
dealing
with
watershed:
quality
issues.
Q
Besides
direct
control
of
subdivisions
and
those
sort
of
things,
there's
a
lot
of
Education
that
we
can
do
and
also
working
with
the
county
to
I
talked
with
Bob,
and
they
are
starting
to
tighten
up
theirs
their
regulations
and
their
health
code
and
such
so.
That
would
be
something
that
we
as
an
entity
would
be
able
to
do,
but
the
state
can't
do
and
we
would
have
more
access
to
Grants
and
expertise
that
the
state
have
right
now
and
the
state
will
not
undertake
they
will
not
write
a
management
plan
for
this.
Q
For
this
part,
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
are
coming
out
have
to
do
with
the
management,
the
future
management
of
the
park.
We
included
outline
of
what
we
see
as
goals
and
mostly
goals
for
what
a
management
plan
would
ultimately
have
and
some
of
the
tasks
and
who
would
undertake
those
tasks
not
only
for
a
management
plan,
but
also,
for
you
know,
health
and
safety
and
facilities
management,
I
guess.
Q
The
thing
is:
is
that,
as
a
taskforce,
we
couldn't
ask
all
these
people
to
sit
down
and
flush
out
a
management
plan,
because
there
is
a
degree
of
time
and
energy
that
that
does
take
without
knowing
that
the
city
was
behind
what
was
going
on.
I,
don't
know
if
that
would
be
necessarily
fair.
On
the
other
hand,
we're
on
our
way
to
a
management
plan
because
of
the
work
that
Doug
Franklin
did
with
all
the
research
that
he
does.
Q
The
research
that
all
the
Natural
History
assessment
and
analysis
that's
been
done
over
the
years
by
all
the
various
departments.
So
a
lot
of
the
things
are
ready
to
put
in
place,
it's
more
of
coordinating
and
flushing
out
getting
public
input
into
the
management
plans
and
I.
Think
a
lot
of
these
issues
would
be
more
settled
through
that
we
have
that
starting
in
like
the
second
year
after
everything's
kind
of
settled
down,
and
that
the
task
force,
which
would
become
an
advisory
committee,
could
start
working
on
that.
Q
So
I
think
that
if
you
look
at
some
of
the
things
we've
written,
you
can
see
where
we're
going.
I
mean
the
number
one
management
goal
is
to
ensure
the
continued
conservation
preservation
of
the
natural
resources
and
that's
the
overriding
vision,
and
that
was
that
was
what
our
task
force
did
through.
All
its
work
was
that
that
vision,
so.
O
You
know
let's
go
back
and
see
so
as
I
recall,
when
you
guys
talked
about
it,
it
was
lower
impact
type
of
development,
and
yet
what
we
have
is
more
in
the
budget
for
less
money.
So
you
know
my
credulity
is
strained
a
little
bit
we're
doing
more
and
we're
charging
more,
but
we're
not
supervised.
I
mean
you
know
it's
just
well.
O
Q
Use
might
become
a
greater
thing,
though.
The
space
that
it's
taking
is
not
necessarily
anymore,
a
spatial,
a
spatial
area,
that's
taking
and
because
you're
managing
it
actively
and
working
with
the
groups
that
want
to
use
it.
The
management
of
it's
going
mean
that
it's
cleaner
and
more
well
taken
care
of
than
it
is
right
now,
and
that's
one
thing
about
local
control
is
that
the
babysitter
is
there
and
not
in
a
watching
TV
of
some
place.
So
this
is
the
Minnesota.
G
O
Q
Yep,
you
have
to
also
recognize
that,
because
of
local
control
and
local
coordination,
those
user
groups
are
going
to
be
quitting
and
buying
than
energy
into
management
and
right
now
they're
putting
time
and
energy
into
management.
It's
not
very
well
coordinated
and
it
will
may
go
at
cross-purposes
to
what
the
vision
of
of
the
ultimate
vision
of
the
park
is.
Q
Q
Q
I
mean
there
are,
but
those
sort
of
issues
are
going
to
be
looked
at
and
addressed
also
through
the
management
plan
in
the
management
process
that
has
to
occur
with
this,
and
if
the
city
doesn't
necessarily
take
it
over
that
management
plan
is
not
going
happen
and
then
those
questions
and
those
concerns
won't
get
addressed
until
there's
some
kind
of
crisis.
It's
a
watershed.
Crisis.
Q
K
M
And
the
work
that
people
have
put
into
developing
this
I
think
that
you
do
have
a
lot
of
talent
and
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
who
care
about
quality
of
life
in
the
community
and
about
this
park
in
particular
and
I.
Think
that
you
know
what
what
we
have
to
look
at
is:
can
we
make
it
work
financially
and
are
we
being
responsible
with
the
taxpayers,
dollars
and
I?
Don't
want
those
concerns,
and
those
questions
to
you
know
come
across
as
as
feeling
negative
or
anything.
I
think
that
people
have.
M
You
know,
put
a
lot
of
really
good,
solid
work
into
this.
It's
just
you
know
looking
at
these
financial
projections,
it's
difficult
for
me
to
tell
how
much
we're
being
asked
to
promise
that
we're
going
to
pay
for,
because
a
lot
of
it
does
still
seem
there
protections
you
know,
and
but
if
we
go
through
with
an
ordinance
saying
that
we're
going
to
do
this,
we're
ultimately
committing
to
whatever
it
ends
up
being
and
that
it's
a.
D
C
C
A
Recreation
Department
is
not
expected
to
cover
itself.
There
are
other
services
in
a
city,
they
do
not
cover
themselves
as
well,
and
some
of
those
are
our
safety
services.
They
don't
have
any
level
of
income.
Recreation
does
have
some
return,
but
I
don't
know
of
any
Recreation
Department.
That
makes
a
profit
that
is
always
in
the
black
eye.
I
think
that
they're
striving
towards
that.
But
that's
not
an
ordinary
recommend
or
expectation
in
a
city
for
recreation
to
be
totally
self-supporting.
You.
O
C
I
I
I
To
come
through
and
be
done,
some
of
the
questions
I'm
I'm,
looking
at
to
my
mind,
is
that
really
what
I
hear
from
the
most
part
are
four
members
of
task
for
us
or
for
of
course,
and
people
from
my
my
ward
and
you
can
always
call
up,
and
let
me
know
and
I'm
sure
some
of
the
will
that
this
is
a
terrible
waste
of
money.
I
just
say.
G
I
D
Part
of
it
is,
is
some
of
these
expense
items
are
obviously
you're
going
to
have
quite
as
much
expenses.
You
say,
seasonal
staff,
if
you
decide
apply,
don't
want
to
do
both
workers.
We
are
going
to
get
the
revenue,
you
don't
get
voters
which
are
going
to
hire
the
person's
ability,
so
part
of
that
is
what's
programmatic
and
you
have
to
go
into
a
cost
study
analysis
by
I
like
I.
Look
through
there.
R
D
What
are
fixed
costs
and
and
there's
really
very
few
when
you
have
a
property
that
is
already
paid
for
only
part-time
people,
so
you
have
no
long-range
commitment
to
an
employee
you're
going
to
have
some
insurance
costs
are
going
to
have
some
utility
costs,
etc.
Everything,
above
and
beyond
that
you
have
to
balance.
How
much
do
I
expect
any
revenue
for.
D
Does
it
cost
me
money
to
try
to
get
some
of
that
revenue
and
remembering
that
in
most
cases
the
webinar
you
get
along
offset
the
total
cost
that
you
have
that's
the
basic
theory
of
this
budget.
Even
though
we
build
in
right
now,
house
rental
say
we
don't
rent
a
house
at
five
to
eight
hundred
dollars
a
month
there.
We
have
them,
pay
utilities
you're
going
to
have
a
vacancy
rate,
and
you
got
to
repair
it.
We
got
to
go
in
there
and
repair
make.
D
C
G
G
A
A
little
experience
of
looking
at
budgets
and
I
usually
take
the
revenue,
which
is
the
top
half
of
the
page
minus
the
expenses,
the
bottom
half
of
the
page,
and
if
you
want
some
numbers
that
you
can
get
your
feet
round,
it's
the
very
last
one
called
surplus
and
shortfall
is
so
you
know,
as
you
add,
or
take
away
from
revenue
or
expense,
and
what
you
want
to
do.
You
can
adjust.
Those
kind
of
things
mayor
is
that
in
the
ballpark
of
what
we
are
looking
for,
that
don't
some
they
look
at
work,
support.
D
Well,
I
mean
I,
think
that's
that's
the
broad
parameter
there
that
if
we
operated
in
our
first
year
out
there
somewhere
in
the
rate
neighborhood
at
118
thousand
dollars-
and
we
know
we
have
right
now-
committed
25,000
from
various
departments
of
the
university,
we
can
make
the
decision
to
put
all
over
49
5
toward
operational
expenses
or
some
portion
of
it
to
capital,
future
capital
purchases
or
endowment
versus
the
other,
and
that
can
we
get
additional
commitments
and
how
much
revenue
the
net
is.
What's
there
that
would
be
in
it
in
the
budget?
That's
it!
D
D
D
That's
why
I
asked
for
the
resolution
and
the
thing
was
yeah
we're
willing
to
actively
consider
this
I
got
this
Advisory
Committee
back
together.
We've
put
work
into
it.
We
have
a
lot
of
meetings
about
it.
We
spent
best
a
half
time
on
it
and
volunteer
time
on
it
and
all
I'm
really
asking
is
tell
me
what
you
want.
The
contract
give
me
some
questions.
What
we're
trying
to
get
him
get
him
answered.
B
Okay,
this
some
someone
has
to
do
with
operating
costs
because
I'm
looking
at
the
draft
cooperative
agreement
between
Athens
and
the
Department
of
Natural
Resources,
it
says
that
Athens
requests
following
of
the
division
system
controlling
or
mitigating
litter,
vandalism,
timber,
trespass,
abusive
recreation
and
other
law
enforcement
activities,
plus
these
other
kinds
of
services.
So
is
that
something
that
I
mean
it
sounds
to
me
like
that's
owed
Ian
our
person.
B
D
It
is
part
of
the
agreement,
but
I
think
what
has
to
be
realized
is
the
number
of
people
you
know
are
within
a
particular
region
that
are
devoted
to
that
number
places
they
have
to
go
and
we
want
to
make
sure
they
have
the
permission
from
the
city
and
especially
the
desire
that
if
you
see
these
things
happening,
we
want
you
to
be
able
to
have
a
power
and
to
do
those,
but
how
often
they
will
be
through
there.
It's
not
that
often
that
would.
B
D
D
I
H
H
Proportions
of
the
Department
of
Natural
Resources.
Oh
it's
broken
into
a
whole
series
of
sister
agencies.
There
were
the
Division
of
Parks
and
Recreation
the
specific
agreement
there
is
with
the
Division
of
Wildlife,
also
with
the
division
of
watercraft.
Those
are
those
would
be
the
three
regulatory
agencies,
the
Division
of
Parks
and
Recreation.
We
would
have
jurisdiction.
We
would
maintain
jurisdiction
on
top
of
the
dam
in
the
dam
itself.
B
H
B
R
M
M
Guess
I,
wonder
if
the
what
you
want
to
bring
forward
now
is
an
authorization
to
enter
into
an
agreement
and
we're
not
committing
any
dollars
until
our
next
budget
year,
whether
that
allows
enough
time
to
do
some
significant
fundraising
so
that
before
we're
committing
dollars,
we
have
a
sense
of
you
know
actual
money.
That's
there
there's.
R
Not
management
in
a
second
was
that
there
would
be
definitely
more
solid
commitments
in
terms
of
financial
commitments
involved,
and
you
know
when
I
listened
to
the
advisory
meeting
this
past
Thursday
night
I
didn't
see
that
anything
had
changed,
I
think
basically,
City
Hall
has
come
to
you
with
basically
the
same
situation
and
now
that
they
want
to
put
into
play
the
resolution,
the
ordinance
and
the
readings
just
in
time.
For
me,
you
know,
I
don't
feel
as
though
this
is
a
situation
that
the
city
of
Athens
can
really
afford
again.
R
R
R
One
of
the
things
that
really
struck
me
that
the
advisory
meeting
Thursday
night
was
not
even
so
much
the
money
as
much
as
the
sheer
amount
of
energy
within
the
city
from
volunteers
from
the
city
itself.
That
is
going
to
be
expended
just
to
keep
this
park
viable,
not
even
developing
it
just
keeping
it,
as
is
I,
really
think
that
it
would
stretch
the
resources
of
this
town,
not
just
in
terms
again
of
money
but
involve
in
terms
of
volunteerism
when
everything
is
just
completely
dominated
by
this
one
park.
R
R
R
This
is
something
that
I
think
that
you
need
to
consider,
because
you
will
have
other
items
coming
up
here
very
shortly,
apparently
in
regards
to
increase
taxing,
and
this
is
something
that,
as
council,
people
I
think
you
feel
you
need
to
feel
the
responsibility
in
terms
of
maintaining
a
healthy
budget
in
this
town
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
things
do
take
care
of
themselves.
You
know
some
of
the
other
departments
in
this.
This
city
are
not
expected
to
raise
enough
money
to
break.
R
Even
I
could
kind
of
see
that
in
the
in
the
city,
parks
and
recreation
to
some
degree.
But
then,
when
we
add
an
item
like
this,
that
I'm
saying
yes,
I-
think
as
a
taxpayer,
I
need
to
see
this.
The
city
of
Athens
be
able
to
have
more
firm
commitments,
and
we
are
talking
by
the
way
you
know
some
of
this
money
that
we
are
talking
about
coming
in
right
now
is
only
going
to
be
with
us
for
about
five
years.
R
So
I
just
really
think
that
at
this
stage
with
the
fire
and
police,
the
way
it
is
with
the
proposed
additions
to
direct
recreation
in
the
form
of
the
pools
that
we're
talking
about
and
in
terms
of
soccer
fields,
whatever
I
think
that
this
is
something
that
is
a
luxury,
and
you
know
I
would
ask
that
we
reject
the
park
at
this
point.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
C
F
One
question
that
keeps
coming
up
as
I
talk
with
people
is
what's
wrong
with
the
status
quo.
You
know
what's
so
wrong
with
the
way
it's
being
managed
now
and
most
of
the
25
years
I've
lived
here,
I
think
the
parks
been
managed
really
well.
In
recent
years
the
state
has
been
pleating
West
resources
into
it,
and
in
spite
of
very
good
efforts
on
the
part
of
the
current
management,
it
shows
the
sort
of
a
they
can't
keep
up
with
it
and
they're
getting
little
grass
and
less
money
coming
in.
F
But
the
current
manager
is
is
not
the
central
issue
for
me.
It's
it's
the
future
of
the
part
of
what
the
state
will
do
with
it
in
the
future.
I
I
do
a
lot
of
walking
as
Strauss
Ron
and
I
often
think
how
wonderful
it
is
that
this
beautiful
place
would
be
safe
and
be
there
for
our
children
and
grandchildren,
and
then
I
learned
a
few
months
ago
that
it
isn't
necessarily
safe.
F
As
I
told
you
about
an
earlier
time,
I
spoke,
the
legislature
has
been
considering
a
bill
that
would
permit
logging
and
gas
and
oil
drilling
and
state
parks
who
say
nature
preserves
I
have
a
version
of
that.
The
committed
logging
has
did
not
make
it
out
of
committee.
We
were
told
over
there.
There
is
a
house
version
of
it
that
permits
gas
of
oil
drilling.
That
probably
will
be
introduced
this
summer
and
you've
got
to
realize
that
the
access
roads
that
are
built
for
gas
and
oil
wells
can
be
very
damaging,
but.
F
F
Strauss
run
would
be
a
lot
safer
if
it
were
privately
owned,
not
privately
but
locally
owned
and
managed,
because
the
people
who
care
the
most
about
Strauss
run
our
Athens
area
rather,
and
you
know,
there's
no
telling
what
the
state
will
do
with
the
park
in
the
long
run.
In
spite
of
mr.
Franks,
you
know
reassurances
which
I
appreciate
we
no
one
knows
what
the
state
legislature
will
do
and
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
faith
in
the
state
legislature.
They
may
close
it.
F
They
could
even
sell
it
by
an
act
of
the
legislature,
I'm
told-
and
we
simply
can't
allow
this
to
happen.
This
park
is
too
important
to
the
quality
of
life
that
happens.
I
know
the
city
budget
is
stretched
and
that
some
funds
will
be
needed
at
least
the
first
few
years
to
make
this
work,
but
I
still
urge
you
to
support
this.
F
You
know,
contrary
to
the
views
of
the
previous
speaker,
in
my
mind,
protecting
something
beautiful
that
enriches
our
all
of
our
lives.
It's
not
a
luxury,
and
you
know
I,
consider
this
in
the
same
category
of
expenditures
as
the
purchase
of
Arts.
That's
something
I
also
supported.
These
are
things
that
distinguish
a
progressive
enlightened
community
like
Athens
from
one
in
which
recreational
opportunities
and
aesthetic
experiences
are
only
available
to
the
privileged
few
who
can
afford
to
pay
for
them
individually,
as
the
nation
of
the
state
will
born
more
towards
a
sort
of
pay.
F
Your
own
way
attitudes
about
everything.
It's
all
that
and
more
important
for
communities
like
Athens
to
be
proactive
in
protecting
those
resources
that
enrich
the
lives
of
all
of
our
citizens,
regardless
of
their
income
and
strives
run.
Is
that
kind
of
resource?
So
you
know
I
urge
your
support
to
city
to
own
and
manage
this
park,
that's
so
important
than
making
Athens.
C
C
C
G
J
D
D
Early
June
and
first
is
the
EPA
litigation,
though,
as
you
know,
what
about
a
year
and
a
half
of
milk
instead
was
that
one
dollar
a
day
of
the
agency,
we're
projecting
that
we'll
have
around
$90,000
at
around
the
1st
of
May.
We
have
a
$500,000
no
outstanding
on
that
we're
going
to
pay
interest,
I
think
about
17,000
$50.
There
be
logged
SUVs
about
1300
and
they
disappear
after
that's
how
much
we'll
pay
off
that
bore?
This
will
be
live
goodbye
bond
counsel
ii.
D
Wouldn't
would
be
the
parking
garage
right
now
we
have
a
$500,000
note
on
that
started,
I
think
at
1.30
we
paint
it
down.
We
have
a
little
over
200
and
up
$210,000
and
yeah
either
the
balance
of
the
bottom
debt
fund
was
another
thousand
and
it
sparkles
rocks
fun
ended
with
9,000.
We
have
obtained
this
bad
150,000
plus
interest.
That
leaves
a
little
bit
of
reserve
in
a
parking
garage
fun
to
chase.
Something
goes
wrong
because
I've
been
awkward
thanks.
We
need
to
do
that.
So
I
recommend
to
probably
deserve
you
a
roleplay
$150,000
down.
D
They
often
put
the
interest
to
write.
You
know
now.
The
East,
8th
Street
notes
are
a
little
bit
different.
That
was
the
one
that
we've
gathered
up
all
the
way
from
the
funds
that
were
left
after
paying
to
the
final
vendors,
and
we
made
a
million
dollar
paid
out
of
last
year
and
that
closed
out
everything.
D
So
now
we're
into
our
TIF
plan,
the
tip
that
we
take
it
as
a
half
a
year,
because
that's
I'll
pay
our
taxes,
all
the
17th
we
out
of
by
June
2nd,
be
able
to
have
half
of
the
TIF
money
and
that
be
I
think
one
hundred
and
fifty
two
thousand
dollars.
We
certainly
have
in
the
East
Bay
Street
note
fun
to
think
about
$23,000.
So
again
we
pay
the
interest
on
two
million
dollars
and
we
wouldn't
pay
very
much
down.
D
But
at
that
rate
we
will
start
depending
next
year
this
time
about
three
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars
per
year
and
we'll
start
really
making
some
significant
inroads
on
that.
The
significance
of
that
is
that
leaves
the
current
money
we're
collecting
from
taxpayers
on
Rogue.
We
have
to
go
toward
current
and
new
projects
because
of
the
flow
of
tip
money.
Is
there
to
handle
the
balance
of
the
East,
8th,
Street
bet?
The
other
item
would
probably
just
be
a
rollover.
D
We
would
look
around
to
pay
the
interest
off
on
it
and
that
would
be
the
sewer
loan
that
we
have
last
year.
I
was
hanged
down.
It
was
a
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
loan.
It's
now
two
hundred
and
seventy
eight
thousand
150
I
think
we'll
just
we
have
it
finalized
and
looking
I
would
like
to
at
least
pay
the
interest
on
that.
But,
quite
honestly,
we're
right
in
the
midst
of
the
final
design
and
stuff
and
I'm
should
be
to
you
before.
D
You
know
on
the
other
side,
because
it
was
the
same
money.
So
we'll
have
a
specific
recommendation
to
you
on
that,
but
that's
June
30th,
we'll
probably
not
introduced
that
one
and
so
not
not
neighbor,
but
it
may
because
we
have
time
the
other.
Three
though
I
think
for
June,
1st
June,
2nd
I
guess
the
East,
a
street
party
are
there's
a
lot
of
12
from
13.
So
we
have
a
little
bit
of
time
on
those
two,
but
all
of
those
will
be
to
these
all
over
run
them
through
the
Finance
Committee.
D
G
D
One
other
hood:
okay
cloud:
a
letter
from
the
Ohio
Water
Development
Board
congratulate
was
paid
off
the
east
big
water
improvements.
We
made
the
final
payment
on
it,
January
1,
so
we're
the
water
from
the
tap
mode.
Just
went
down
about
30,000
a
year.
There
was
one
death
left
to
the
waterfront.
Well
hill.
We
paid
off
January
1
2007,
then
we
will
be
debt-free,
but
I
have.
J
I
have
one
more
miscellaneous
item.
We
just
got
a
notification
from
personal
director
that
the
police
lieutenants
have
agreed
to
their
final
agreement
and
so
we'll
need
to
introduce
the
agreement
and
probably
suspend
on
it,
meaning
because
the
agreement
actually
they're
operating
without
a
current
contract
since
December
of
last
year.
So
we
need
to
bring
that
nothing.
That's
literally
all
I
have
so
we'll
learn.
C
P
Transportation
committee
will
meet
now.
There
are
four
items
excluding
the
miscellaneous
on
the
agenda,
the
first
of
which
I'll
speak
to
and
then
the
other
three
found
different
than
their
first
one.
Is
the
street
tour
the
ever
exciting
street
tour
that
was
this
past
Saturday.
Thank
you
for
those
who
were
able
to
attend
basically
a
quick
recap
without
going
through
everything
that
we
actually
looked
at,
because
it
was
a
three-hour
tour.
P
We
took
a
look
at
some
areas
where
we'll
be
doing
paving
projects,
some
Road
rehabilitation,
practice,
seal,
concrete
repair,
grind
and
patch
raised
level,
and
then
we
also
looked
at
some
curb
and
sidewalk
repair.
While
we
were
on
the
tour,
so
some
of
the
areas
that
we
looked
at
a
State
Street
attempts
an
Avenue
Court
Street.
We
looked
at
some
carpenter,
brick,
the
carpenter,
Congress
transition,
Columbia,
Palmer
Road,
a
variety
of
different
areas
that
we
looked
at.
While
we
were
on
the
tour
just.
P
P
L
J
Follow
that
up
to
a
large
percentage
of
that
is
being,
we
have
a
small
match
for
some
grants
or
other
programs
issue
to
program
to
repair
up
tomorrow,
because
new
33
being
those
paying
some
money
repair
the
Sunset
Strip
some
set
slips.
So
there's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
money
being
expended
on
roads
right,
but
it's
it's!
The
city's,
the
administration,
making
the
city's
money
go
a
lot
further
right.
P
P
Okay,
next
item
on
the
agenda:
their
unions,
682
intersection,
I,
want.
D
You
to
be
aware
that
there's
an
alternate
the
engineering
firms
we
talked
about
it
early
log,
put
him
to
repay
of
West
Union
Street
from
the
bridge
back
to
blue
line,
which
was
I
believe
where
we
stopped
did
the
middle
section.
A
year
ago,
that
bid
came
in
with
about
one
hundred
and
three
thousand
dollars.
It
would
all
be
local
money,
I
think,
just
as
we
did,
the
other
straight
from
Shaffer
to
the
fairgrounds
is
an
issue
to
project
I.
Think
that
probably
should
be
one
of
our
issue
two
projects
next
year.
D
It's
right
it
also
if
you
decide,
because
that
was
chiseled
Road
the
way,
but
also
look
at
curve
and
sidewalk
in
that
area
and
try
to
expand
our
money.
So
my
recommendation
would
be
not
to
opt
to
do
that
alternate
this
year
because
go
this
year's
payments
are
there
will
be
done
with
the
birth?
Probably
too
late
fall.
So
we
have
new
road
up
to
the
floor
were
constructed
and
I
just
think.
There's
too
much
right.
D
D
Bike
path,
as
I
think
we
talked
earlier
in
the
year
when
I
was
kind
of
going
through
the
hierarchy
of
what
we
had
to
do.
What,
if
all
the
bids
came
in
now,
is
the
time
that
we
made
our
request
to
ODOT,
to
use
the
south
side
that
East
State
Street
I'll
use
the
limited
access
highway
there
it's
time
to
hire
the
engineering
firm
that
has
been
engineering
estimate
on
this
is
$85,000.
That's
a
hundred
percent
local
cost.
D
When
we
get
to
construction,
that's
80/20
now
make
you
aware
that
under
the
general
authority
on
those
but
like
grants,
I
did
by
February
first
apply
for
a
clean
ohio
issue
or
clean
ohio
fund
bike
path.
Grant.
We
were
told
at
the
time
of
that
coming
in
that
the
legislature
and
the
governor
got
authorized,
any
money
gets
they
didn't
know
when
it
was.
But
I
got
a
letter
this
week
or
late
last
week
really
saying
legislators
now
authorized
money,
the
governor
signed
it
and
they
will
be
considering
our
application,
along
with
others,
etc.
D
So
that
might
help
offset
that
cost
later
so
I've
applied
for
what
available
grant
we
have,
but
will
probably
happen
up
in
front
of
anyway,
but
we're
trying
to
try
to
keep
the
cost
down.
We
went
to
Dakota
construction,
that's
a
20%
of
the
match,
Paragon
Fairgrounds
just
hard
to
believe,
but
this
the
summer
will
be
ten
years.
Since
we
entered
that
initial
lease.
D
We
had
a
five
year,
five
years
of
five-year
renewal
before
I,
post
a
fair
board
and
everything
I
asked
one
that
the
heel
is
a
shoe
is
sort
of
peaked
invalid
on
us
over
the
years.
It's
in
the
valley
right
now,
I'm
not
a
whole
lot
of
the
utilization
out
there
about
50%
of
them
are
vacant,
but
I
would,
from
the
committee
either
who
just
left
the
leeks
laps
or
did
we
go
ahead
and
try
to
renegotiate-
and
you
know,
I
just
need
a
general
guidance
from
from
the
Committee
on
that
receipt.
L
I
D
An
ad
particular
point
in
time.
We
then
started
to
talk,
even
though
it
wasn't
in
our
log
of
what
some
of
the
other
alternatives
were
right
now.
Gravel
is
a
porous
surface
and
therefore,
you
know
was
causing
water
runoff,
but
it
was
something
to
convenience
to
the
Parkers
there
at
time
to
time,
but
we.
D
Things
to
make
it
look
that
way.
We
preserve
the
plan
like
that
and
they
said
well.
We
they
weren't
sure
yet
they'd,
let
us
know-
and
that's
been
about
three
years,
so
they
obviously
didn't
want
to
make
the
long-term
commitment
to
try
to
put
that
to
an
on
course,
surface
and
weren't
sure
exactly
what
which
way
to
go
on
it.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
was
in
the
original
lease,
but
the
you
know
it
was
subject
to
their
approval.
D
G
B
B
D
D
Part
of
our
hope
has
always
been
to
tie
to
that
in
a
little
bit
better
to
the
bus
system
yeah
so
that
that
can
be
one
of
the
can't
be
a
remote
clerkly,
but
it
can
be
a
parking
for
people
living
at
dormitories
or
other
areas
and
I.
Think
part
of
what
happened
is
River
Park
Towers,
when
we,
when
they
had
to
build
120
units
in
one
bedroom
and
such
that
our
requirement
said
two
units
per
two
parking
spaces
per
there.
D
While
they
would
have
been
built,
240
parking
spaces
and
they
have
I
think
124
people
living
there.
So
they
had
all
of
a
sudden
have
an
extra
one
hundred
and
eighteen
parking
spaces
and
they
were
out
of
them
out.
That's
a
lot
closer
than
the
fairground.
Of
course,
they
probably
wanted
more
money.
Yeah.
B
Well,
I'm
glad
you
see
things
yeah
I'm
glad.
You
mentioned
the
bus
system
because
I
someone
mentioned
to
me
that
they've
been
waiting
four
years
and
they
still
haven't
gotten
in
to
the
parking
structure
downtown.
So
if
they're
worth,
although
we
probably
don't
have
the
number
of
people
to
support
it,
but
you
know
if
they
could
be
a
little
shuttle
from
them
from
the
fairgrounds
into
town
or
something
that's.