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D
Okay,
well,
I'm
very
new
to
bend.
I
only
moved
here
about
18
months
ago
I
joined
my
neighborhood
association
right
away
as
a
director,
but
what
motivated
me
to
get
involved
with
is
just
that.
My
association's
lack
of
action
on
a
big
land
development
across
the
street
from
us,
so
I
was
trying
to
get
to
a
place
where
I
could
maybe
make
more
of
a
difference
here
and
then,
as
far
as
nla,
basically
nominated
by
the
board.
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D
C
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D
A
A
A
A
A
Please
be
aware
of
the
timer
set
up
for
and
I'll
wait
and
see
how
many
speakers
we
have,
but
typically
three
minutes
per
person
which
will
be
displayed
on
screen
when
invited
to
comment
begin
by
stating
your
name
and
who
you
are
representing
and
if
it's
yourself
simply
state.
I
will
ask
you
to
conclude
your
comments
when
your
time
is
up
so
that
we
hear
from
everyone.
A
This
is
an
opportunity
to
provide
public
input.
It
is
not
a
time
to
insult
others,
level,
personal
attacks
or
threats
disrupt
the
meeting
or
in
any
way
discourage
anyone
else
from
participating.
People
are
free
to
disagree
with
each
other
on
issues,
but
we
must
do
so
respectfully.
We
ask
and
expect
everyone
to
abide
by
these
rules.
A
A
Any
chair
hands.
Okay.
I
guess
I
didn't
need
to
read
all
that
in
retrospect,
okay,
first
step
presentation,
damien
cyrnic
is
here.
This
is
our
second
presentation
on
southeast
area
plan
we
heard
from
damian
back
in
march,
if
you
recall.
Obviously,
southeast
area
is
a
big
big
development.
Damien's
been
working
with
the
southeast
area
plan
advisory
committee
cpac
on
this
development
that
the
city
quite
some
time
ago,
labeled
the
elbow
early
next
year.
I
think
the
southeast
area
plan
goes
to
planning,
commission
and
council
for
adoption.
A
So
probably
nla
participation
in
that
process
is
going
to
happen
later
at
that
time,
when
we
start
engaging
council
on
planning.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
attendees
to
allow
damien
to
finish
his
presentation
again,
this
presentation,
as
well
as
the
following
presentation
on
juniper
ridge.
Our
intention
here
is
to
provide
information
to
nla
reps
to
take
back
to
your
boards.
G
G
I
G
Nodding
all
right,
so
I'm
gonna
I'll
dive
right
in
good
afternoon.
Everybody,
I'm
damian
cernick,
I'm
a
senior
planner
with
the
city's
growth
management
division,
and
I'm
here
today
to
give
you
a
presentation
on
our
work
on
the
southeast
area
plan
and,
as
your
chair
pointed
out.
The
last
time
I
was
here
to
present
on
this
project
was
march
10th,
just
a
few
days
before
the
governor
issued
the
steam
at
home
order.
G
G
G
One
of
the
things
that
we
did
up
front
with
our
advisor
committee,
the
southeast
area
plan
advisory
committee,
is
to
work
with
them
to
adopt
a
vision
for
the
southeast.
It's
the
guiding
principles
so
on
the
upper
left
of
this
slide.
You'll
see
the
word
cloud
of
the
work
we
did
with
them
back
in
january
of
last
year
on
the
bottom,
half
of
the
screen
you'll
see
the
vision
for
the
southeast
expansion
area.
G
I'm
not
going
to
read
it
and
violate.
You
know.
Good
powerpoint
protocols,
but
I'll
highlight
a
few
things
is
one
of
the
goals
of
our
committee
to
look
at
a
complete
and
walkable
community
in
the
southeast,
so
that
it
had
housing,
neighborhood
services
places
for
working,
but
also
schools
and
parks,
and
so
we've
used
that
vision
and
the
guiding
principles
you
see
in
the
upper
right
to
gut
our
work
for
developing
the
southeast
area
plan.
G
In
addition
to
cpac
who
we've
been
working
with
since
december
of
2018,
we've
had
a
number
of
opportunities
for
for
more
community-wide
engagement
between
then
and
now.
We've
had
10
meetings
of
cpac
over
the
last
you
know.
Roughly
six
months,
we've
had
three
virtual
meetings,
like
the
one
you're
having
today,
where
we've
been
able
to
interact
with
them
and
get
feedback
and
direction
on
the
work
we're
doing.
G
With
our
last
meeting
coming
up
on
december
3rd
of
this
year
last
year
we
did
have
a
couple
of
in-person
open
houses
and
right
now
we
have
an
online
open
house
that
I'll
talk
about
more
than
once
to
get
feedback
share
concepts.
We've
got
some
survey,
questions
we're
asking
people
to
fill
out
that
started
on
october
22nd,
and
it's
going
to
be
open
through
this
end
of
day
this
thursday
november
12th.
G
So,
there's
still
an
opportunity
to
drive
this
out
to
your
neighborhood
associations
and
let
interested
persons
know
that
they
can
take
a
closer
look
at
the
work.
We're
doing
here
and
then
also
weigh
in
depending
if
they
want
to
provide
us
with
some
moral
or
pardon
me
written
comments
or
respond
to
some
of
the
surveys
or
both.
G
One
is
a
relocation
of
a
collector
road.
This
is
the
intersection
here
of
caldera
in
15th,
so
the
transportation
plan
for
this
area
includes
extending
caldera
east
to
27th
street
north
of
the
middle
school.
It
also
includes
a
proposed
north
south
collector
provide
a
second
route
between
ferguson
and
15th.
G
The
extension
of
vs
india,
east
27th,
but
also
some
of
the
elements
that
we're
looking
at
with
the
southeast,
including
connections
to
local
roads
on
several
the
graphics
that
I'll
show
you'll,
see
these
green
lines
representing
future
multi-use
paths
and
then
on
the
right
side.
You'll
see
some
examples
of
either
the
type
of
development
that
would
be
possible
or
some
features
that
we're
looking
to
include
or
protect
as
part
of
the
development
in
the
area.
G
G
Maybe
warehousing
and
wholesale
might
not
find
this
area
attractive,
given
its
location,
adjacent
to
existing
neighborhoods
and
some
of
the
topography,
but
other
light.
Industrial
uses,
research
and
development
and
flex
space
would
be
better,
more
likely
tenants
and
owners
of
buildings
and
uses
down
here,
and
what
you
see
on
the
left
side
is
an
example
of
what
this
might
look
like
with
development
on
either
side
of
caldera,
plus
some
extensions
of
the
local
street
system,
and
one
thing
I
should
point
out
when
you
look
at
some
of
these
maps.
G
G
G
Intersection
improvements,
whether
they're,
like
a
roundabout
or
not
a
roundabout
here
and
here,
for
example,
a
two-way
stop
intersection
and
we've
been
coordinating
our
work
here
in
the
southeast,
also
with
the
oregon
department
of
transportation.
So
we
can
inform
their
work
on
potential
traffic
impacts
to
intersections
and
making
sure
that
we've
got
fighting
mechanisms
in
place
to
help
them
fund
future
improvements
to
a
couple
of
their
key
intersections.
G
Going
back
to
the
work
on
multi-use
paths,
I
wanted
to
highlight
this
work,
because
this
is
something
we've
done
collaboratively
with
the
bend
park
and
recreation
district
back
in
2018.
The
district
adopted
a
new
comprehensive
plan
which
included
a
system
of
trails,
and
so
what
we've
done
is
try
to
incorporate
their
work
here
with
some
refinements.
G
You
see
with
some
of
the
the
kind
of
like
orange
kind
of
rust-colored
lines
on
the
map,
those
reflect
locations
of
multi-use
paths
that
would
be
in
the
public
right-of-way
adjacent
to
a
street
kind
of
the
green
shaded
ones
like
this.
One,
for
example,
are
trails
intended
to
follow
easements
and
then
existing
local
road
rights
of
way-
and
this
also
includes
access-
or,
I
should
say-
outlines
the
trails
that
are
planned
for
the
transcanada
pipeline,
which
is
right
here
as
well,
and
the
low
stress
network.
G
G
We
think
we're
going
to
be
moving
to
planning
commission
in
january
and
in
my
communication
with
michaela,
that
would
be
an
opportunity
where
we'd
notify
kind
of
a
broader
group
than
our
usual
project.
Email
list
so
we'd
reach
out
to
advisor
committees
to
invite
them
to
the
work
session,
so
they
can
learn
more
about
the
project
and
then
decide
how
much
they
want
to
weigh
in
and
provide
comments.
G
City
council
is
a
little
bit
more
tentative
just
given.
We've
got
four
new
city
councilors
being
sworn
in
in
january,
and
I
know
after
they
are
sworn
in,
there's
going
to
be
some
time
for
orientation,
they're
going
to
start
goal
setting,
so
those
dates
are
are
tentative
right
now,
but
we
think
it's
going
to
be
in
that
time
period
where
we
take
the
planet
council
for
their
adoption,
and
my
email
address
is
on
there
as
well.
G
A
G
J
I
B
K
Thank
you.
So
I
have
a
question
when
we
were
talking
about
the
micro
units.
We
talked
a
lot
about
available
services
near
housing.
You
know
like
laundry
mats
and
grocery
stores
and
medical
facilities,
and
I
know
you
can't.
I
guess
my
question
is:
how
do
you
encourage
those
kinds
of
businesses
to
locate
in
this
kind
of
development.
G
It
has
code
that
allows
for
mixed
use,
development
and
more
of
those
those
services
and
then
just
kind
of
speaking.
From
my
experience,
what
I've
been
hearing
back
is
from
property
owners
that
are
talking
with
maybe
future
buyers,
future
agents,
some
developers
who
are
then
you
know
in
communication
with
with
the
city,
about
things
they're
thinking
about
with
this
area.
You
know
once
the
plan
is
adopted
and
the
plan
changes
are
put
into
effect.
G
G
A
Hey
next
up
carolyn-
and
I
want
to
thank
carolyn,
for
it
was
a
a
bit
of
a
last-minute
invite
to
the
agenda.
Obviously,
the
juniper
ridge
homeless
transition
topic
has
been
in
the
news:
every
which
way
of
a
special
interest
to
our
friends
at
boyd
acres,
of
course,
but
at
the
same
time,
when
michaela
and
lisa
and
I
get
together
weekly
to
make
some
last
minute
changes
where
we
think
it's
appropriate.
This
seemed
like
a
great
opportunity
again.
A
L
L
Different
information,
better
information
with
the
members
of
our
community,
and
so
I
want
to
get
through
this
thoroughly
so
that
we
have
all
the
right
information
out
there,
but
I
just
can't
tell
you
all
enough
how
open
I
am
to
hearing
from
you
about
what
we
ought
to
be
doing
next
to
bring
this
forward
and
you'll
have
to
forgive
michaela.
I
mean
this
is
the
first
time
she's
ever
driven
slides
for
me.
So
if
anything
seems
clunky,
you
can
blame
me,
but
go
ahead
michaela
to
the
next
slide,
please.
L
So
when
we
presented
to
council
on
october
21st,
the
first
thing
that
we
reminded
them
was
that
there
was
a
huge
effort
underway
related
to
the
planning
of
the
industrial
area
that
we
all
know
and
love.
I
like
to
think
as
juniper
ridge
and
the
juniper
bridge
management
advisory
board
brought
forward
or
brought
was
going
to,
and
they
just
did
that
on
november
4th
recommendations
to
really
make
the
industrial
area
and
juniper
ridge
work
for
those
of
us.
Like
me,
who've
been
watching
this
for
almost
definitely
15
years.
L
It
has
been
sort
of
like
this
promise
that
never
comes
true
and,
and
so
finally,
we
have
made
recommendations
to
the
council
on
how
we
can
more
effectively
develop
juniper
ridge.
One
of
those
recommendations
is
that
we
recognize
that
we
have
too
much
land
in
juniper
ridge
inside
the
city
limits
for
the
city's
planned
employment
needs,
and
we
need
to
probably
convert
some
of
that
land
to
residential.
So
that's
the
that's
where
we
started
when
we
talked
to
council
on
the
21st.
Go
ahead
next
slide
michaela.
L
And
so
we
did
that.
No
one
was
happy
with
us
as
that
went
on,
but
what
we
did
were
able
to
do
as
that
effort
took
place.
Is
we
gained
a
lot
of
relationships
with
the
families
and
individuals
who
are
camping
in
juniper
ridge
and
have
a
much
better
understanding
of
what
their
needs
are.
We
have
regular
service
providers
going
out
to
the
campers
who
are
there
and
we
are
one
by
one
having
successes
connecting
some
of
those
individuals
and
families
to
social
services,
which
is
what
we
would
all
hope
for.
L
L
L
Why
aren't
you
protecting
your
crossings
and
we
said
we
need
to
protect
the
crossings
and
they
said
yes,
you
do,
and
so
it
became
very
evident
that
we
will
we
have
already,
but
we
that
we
needed
to
and
have
since
begun
talking
to
bnsf
and
we've
gotten
permission
from
council
to
purchase
and
install
locking
gates
to
prevent
the
crossing
the
public
use
of
those
crossings
over
the
rail
way,
so
that
we
can
reduce
the
likelihood
of
of
this
type
of
incident
happening
again.
Go
ahead
to
the
next
sign
michaela.
L
So
this
is
a
map
of
the
north
end
of
juniper
ridge,
so
you'll,
remember:
juniper
ridge
is
500
acres
inside
the
city
limit
north
of
cooley,
road
and
east
of
us
97,
and
then
there
is
another:
that's
500
acres,
but
there's
another
thousand
acres,
that's
in
the
county
and
the
land
you're.
Seeing
here
is
the
acreage.
That's
in
the
county.
We
are
north
of
the
city
limit
the
two
there's
three
x's
there.
L
Those
are
the
legal
crossings
of
the
railway,
the
two
further
north,
the
yellow
ones,
are
ours,
and
you
can
see
that
the
land
there,
those
black
lines
there
are
really
the
jeep
trails
that
we
have
and
so
access
throughout
the
city-owned
property
in
the
county
is
it's
barely
accessible,
and
one
of
the
real
concerns
from
our
fire
department
is
that
they
don't
feel
comfortable
putting
ground
assets
into
juniper
ridge
to
fight
a
fire.
There
is
a
concern
that
firefighters
would
become
trapped,
which
is
why
the
aerial
assets
were
necessary
to
fight
that
fire.
L
There
is
another
access,
informal
access,
I
guess
you
would
call
it
off
the
shoots
market
road.
This
is
the
green.
I
think
it's
a
green
dot
with
a
g
in
it,
and
so
you
can
see
that
access
too,
but
none
of
these
are
roads.
None
of
them
are
legal
accesses
and
it
is
imperative
for
the
city's
future
growth
that
we
protect
the
license
crossings
over
the
railway,
but
in
oregon
it
is
really
difficult
for
us
to
put
roads
or
other
access
points
in
this
land.
L
We
have
lots
of
unauthorized
access,
as
you
can
imagine,
but
according
to
our
fire
chief,
we
do
have
a
higher
fire
risk
based
on
just
topography
and
fuels
on
the
north
end
of
the
city
limit
than
we
do
in
other
areas.
So
there's
camping
off
china
had
and
there's
camping,
east
of
town
and
they're
camping,
other
even
west
of
town,
but
this
is
the
place
where
the
just
the
topography
and
the
fuel
loading
is
more
significant
and
of
higher
concern
to
our
fire
chief.
Go
ahead.
Michaela.
L
L
We
essentially
trap
about
75
individuals
and
families
behind
the
gates
with
no
way
to
access
a
road
system,
and
so
we
need
to
find
we
need
to
find
another
place
for
them
to
have
a
safe
place
to
sleep,
and
so
when
we
think
about
how
we
protect
those
railways,
those
rail
crossings-
and
we
think
about
how
we
can
meet
the
letter
of
the
oregon
case
law
we
need.
We
need
a
better
approach.
We
need
a
way.
L
We
need
a
location
where
we
can
provide
shelter
beds
for
the
individuals
who
are
camping
on
the
city-owned
property
in
juniper
ridge
in
the
county,
and
I'm
not
gonna
joke
like.
We
know
that
the
individuals
that
are
camping
there,
don't
they
don't
want
service.
I
mean
we're
making
strides
for
sure
in
terms
of
building
relationships,
but
these
are
individuals
who
have
otherwise
said.
I
don't
want
to
be
in
a
shelter.
I
don't
want
to
be
around
anybody.
I
want
to
find
you
know.
I
want
a
little
bit
like
the
homesteading.
L
L
We
have
about
a
thousand
individuals
who,
in
any
one
night,
are
experiencing
homelessness
in
central
oregon
and
even
in
the
winter,
which
is
when
we
have
all
the
winter
warming
shelters
open.
We
have
fewer,
really
we
have
fewer
at
any
time
than
like
400
shelter
beds.
So
we
just,
we
simply
do
not
have
enough
shelter
beds
in
central
oregon
to
accommodate
the
existing
number
of
people
experiencing
homelessness
and
then
the
growing
need
and
the
growing
number
of
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
go
ahead.
Michaela.
L
So
what
we've
asked
council
to
support
is
what
we're
calling
a
continuum
of
housing,
and
it
has
three
stages.
If
you
will.
The
first
is
in
the
short
term,
and
we
said
we
need
to
put
the
gates
at
the
crossings,
so
we're
saying
that
under
the
existing
city
manager's
covet
emergency
declaration,
we
had
already
needed
to
provide
some
flexibility
around
shelter
beds
so
that
we
could
address
some
of
the
covet
issues.
L
We
also,
at
the
same
time,
we
had
the
passing
of
house
bill
4212,
which
allows
agencies
organizations
to
apply
to
cities,
to
say
we
have
this
property
and
we
want
to
use
it
as
a
shelter
site.
So
we
received
four
of
those.
Two
of
them
are
viable
and
we're
expecting
city
manager,
approval
of
those
two
sites,
the
one
that
probably
is
the
most
familiar
to.
L
Individuals
on
this
call
are
the
the
veterans,
village,
we're
opening
the
winter
storm
warming
shelter,
and
we
have
asked
council
for
permission
to
evaluate
the
feasibility
so
to
explore.
The
feasibility
of
looking
at
a
temporary
transitional
site
in
juniper
ridge
and
the
site
that
we
originally
talked
about,
or
that
we
talked
to
council
about,
would
be
accessed
off
cooley
road
and
but
we
are
simply.
This
is
where
I
think
the
most
confusion
is
what
we
asked
council
was
permission
to
explore
the
feasibility-
it's
not
any
different.
L
So
if
hans
owned
a
hotel-
and
I
wanted
to
ask
him
to
purchase
that
hotel
to
acquire
for
a
shelter,
I
don't
have
to
ask
city
council
permission
for
that.
I'm
allowed
to
do
that
as
staff.
In
this
case,
since
it's
city-owned
property,
we
needed
council
permission
to
explore
this
site
before
we
could
start
doing
it,
so
it
got
in
some
sense.
It
got
out
ahead
of
us,
but
it's
the
way
that
we
had
to
do
it,
and
so
exploring
feasibility
for
a
site
in
juniper
ridge
has
has
broadly
three
parts.
L
One.
The
emergency
order
requires
that
any
location
for
a
shelter
site
have
a
managed
homeless
camp
or
a
management
component.
So
if
we
were
going
to
acquire
a
hotel,
we
would
want
to
make
sure
that
there
was
a
social
service
provider
providing
services
and
providing
management
of
that
shelter
site.
L
We
had
to
determine
if
it
was
feasible.
So
can
you
even
provide
gravel
access?
If
we
have
a
gravel
surface,
is
that
sufficient?
Can
we
provide
temporary
sanitation
facilities?
Can
the
social
service
providers
get
in
there,
and
then
we
really
needed
to
understand
if
individuals
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
would
even
want
to
use
this
site,
and
so
those
are
the
three
parts
of
the
feasibility
and
we're
exploring
all
of
that
now.
So
a
big
part
of
that
is
getting
out
to
the
neighbors
who
are
adjacent
to
the
potential
site
and
understand
what
their
concerns
are.
L
You
understand
the
funding,
you
understand
the
needs.
Where
are
the
holes,
and
what
do
we
need
to
be
doing?
Tom
anderson
from
the
county
has
committed
fully
to
participating
in
that,
and
he
recognizes
that
it
is
a
city
and
county
effort
to
address
this.
So
these
are
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
in
the
short
term.
You
know
when
we
all
talked
about
governor
brown's
reopening
plan
in
phase
two.
L
I
think
we
thought
maybe
phase
two
would
go
until
now
and
we'd
be
in
phase
three
feels
like
with
every
week
we're
understanding
that
phase
two
is
longer.
So
at
this
point
in
terms
of
timing,
I
think
we're
thinking
of
the
short
term
as
being
through
the
spring
or
summer
of
next
year,
fingers
crossed
for
a
widely
available
vaccine,
which
would
move
us
into
phase
three,
which
would
mean
we
would
no
longer
have
a
city
manager's
order
in
place
under
which
we
could
site
the
camp
at
juniper
ridge.
L
L
We
need
to
make
sure
we
continue
to
see
the
money
from
the
state
come
into
our
region
for
the
long-term
solution,
and
then
we
absolutely
need
to
build
more
housing
units
go
ahead,
michaela,
and
so
this
is
the
map
so
right
now
the
purple
dot
at
the
bottom
of
your
map.
Thank
you,
michaela
is
where
we've
originally
asked
council
for
permission
to
explore
the
feasibility
of
a
managed
homeless
camp.
L
Again,
it's
a
rudimentary
site,
we're
talking,
gravel
access
and
gravel
surface
and
temporary
sanitation
services,
so
hand
washing
stations,
shower
truck
porta,
potties
and
then
regularly
scheduled
visits
from
both
social
services
and
medical
services.
The
site
would
have
a
camp
host
would
have
some
barrier
that
delineated
being
in
the
camp
and
not
in
the
camp
and
then
really
follow
industry
practice
on
what
a
managed
homeless
camp
does.
So.
We've
talked
about
a
six
acre
site.
L
L
There's
there's
a
lot
of
decisions
to
be
made,
so
then
the
second.
So
this
medium
term
and
the
long
term
strategy
is
where
michaela's
cursor
is
now
so
the
blue
line.
So
for
each
of
you
know
that
is
the
the
north
interceptor
alignment.
So
we're
really
using
this
as
a
strong
delineator
between-
and
this
came
from,
the
juniper
ridge
management
advisory
board
this.
L
One
of
the
things
we
know
is
that
we
have
members
of
our
community
they're
experiencing
homelessness,
but
really
it's
transitional.
So
they
have
a
house
secured
for
december
1st,
but
they
need
to
be
out
of
their
current
house
on
december
15,
and
so
they
need
a
place
for
a
couple
weeks.
They
may
have
an
rv,
they
may
just
have
a
tent
but
making
sure
we
provide
some
locations
here.
L
It
is
probably
12
to
18
months
as
they
work
there,
and
then
the
area
in
yellow
is
what
we
would
like
to
subdivide
and
donate
to
some
of
our
affordable
housing
builders,
so
that
we
can
get
some
of
the
unit
more
of
the
units
on
the
ground
that
we
need.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
know
is
that
households
that
are
earning
30
percent
of
area,
median
income
or
less
so
that's
about
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
a
family
of
four.
L
L
I
think
we
may
hear
council
ask
our
affordable
housing
committee
to
say
how
many
units
can
you
build
for
this
income
level.
We
also
know
that
we
have
social
service
providers
who
would
love
to
locate
in
this
area.
So
it's
about
putting
a
mix
of
housing
and
services
up
here
to
provide
additional
housing
units
for
for
bent,
and
so
the
last
slide
are
what
the
council
recommendations
were.
L
Oh
no
42!
This
is
4212..
I
talked
about
that
keep
going
so
we
asked
for
permission
to
look
at
the
sighted
juniper
ridge.
We
asked
council
if
they
would
be
okay
with
eric,
creating
the
task
force
and
we
asked
them
to
consider
the
medium
and
long
term
strategies
in
their
goal,
setting
for
2123
that
we
also
asked
them
for
permission.
L
Permission
pardon
me
to
purchase
and
install
the
gates
at
the
rail
crossings,
but
to
install
them
and
lock
them
in
the
open
position.
Until
we
have
the
shelter
beds
online
that
we
need
to
provide
an
option
to
those
who
are
camping
up
in
juniper
ridge,
and
that
is,
I
have
one
backup
slide.
I
think.
Oh,
no,
that's
the
end
of
this
presentation.
So
thank
you.
Everyone
hans!
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
giving
me
the
the
floor.
A
But
am
I
hearing
that
only
because
my
perception
is
the
transitional
camping
area
seems
to
be
the
more
volatile
issue
here.
Am
I
hearing
that
the
estimate
would
be
that
if
we
go
forward
with
this,
that
it
might
be
in
position
for
a
year
or
18
months,
or
is
there
a
sunset
imagined
on
this
homeless
transition
camp?
Okay,.
L
So
we
really
would
only
if
we
were
to
have
an
extremely
expedited
process
and
we
had
a
camp
available
for
members
of
our
community
to
move
on
to,
let's
just
say
january
15th.
That
camp
would
only
be
in
place
through
the
summer
and
fall
while
we're
in
phase
two
of
governor
brown's
reopening
oregon
plan.
As
soon
as
phase
three
commences,
and
hopefully
we
get
a
little
more
notice
for
phase
three
than
we
did
earlier,
but
we
would
then
have
to.
We
would
absolutely
decommission
the
camp
at
the
juniper
ridge
site.
L
L
J
What,
if
any
applicability
to
the
rest
of
the
city
does
this
have?
Is
this
strictly
a
local
issue?
I
think
that
you
did
a
wonderful
job
for
presenting
all
this
to
boyd
acres,
but
it
didn't
relieve
any
of
their
anxiety
and
it's
still
quite
a
controversial
item
to
put
it
lightly.
So,
but
is
there
anything
that
the
rest
of
the
group
should
learn
about
this
other
than
boyd
acres
is
unhappy.
L
L
L
That
would
allow
any
of
your
faith-based
communities
to
use
their
parking
lots
and
with
a
managed
camp
component
for
safer
overnight
parking,
so
sort
of
a
safe
to
park
kind
of
program
where,
rather
than
trying
to
duck
between
two,
you
know
largely
vacant
streets
to
park
your
car
overnight.
You
would
actually
have
a
safer
place
where
you
could
park
legally
overnight,
so
we
are
looking
absolutely
at
sites
in
addition
to
the
ones
on
the
north
end
of
town.
L
I
personally
think
that
there
are
some
very
centrally
located
sites,
but
the
city
doesn't
own
them,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
started,
I
just
started
having
conversations
is
with
the
homeless
leadership
coalition,
so
they
tend
they're.
The
group
of
service
providers,
medical
providers
and
nulls,
who
know
a
whole
lot
more
about
homelessness
than
I
do
to
think
about
sites
that
they
think
would
be
better
and
see
if
we
could
advocate
with
those
elected
bodies
to
use
some
of
those
sites
so
kathy.
J
Thanks
I'm
I
just
like
to
say
from
my
personal
viewpoint,
I'm
glad
to
see
the
city
doing
something,
and
I
kind
of
trust,
your
process
and
know
that
you're
looking
at
juniper
ridge,
because
you
need
to
do
something
and
so
to
me
being
as
close
as
I
was
to
that
fire,
it
would
be
much
better
to
have
a
managed
site
there
than
to
have
unmanaged
stuff
keep
going
on
in
the
north
part.
That's
so
hard
to
access.
So
that's
my
personal
opinion.
J
L
Thank
you.
I
think
the
important
piece
is
kathy
just
touched
on
is
about
controlling
fuels
for
lack
of
a
better
word.
When
individuals
are
camping
in
that
very
fire
prone
area,
north
of
the
city,
they
have
fuel,
I
mean
whether
it's
their
personal
belongings
or
their
food
fire
or
their
warming
fires.
L
When
we
do
a
managed
camp,
especially
in
this
environment,
no
open
flames
would
be
allowed.
So
we
would,
we
would
have
warming
for
heat
and
for
food
preparation,
but
they
wouldn't
be
open
flame,
and
so
it
does
provide
us
an
additional
level
of
fire.
I
don't
I'm
coming
up
with
the
wrong
word,
but
so
that
we
could
reduce
the
risk
of
fire.
I
M
E
I
have
my
hands
up,
this
is
cassie.
Can
you
hear
me
yeah,
okay?
Yes,
this
is
about
the
people
that
are
camping
on
century
drive
and
I'm
just
curious.
Are
you
looking
at
areas
around
ben
where
this
is
happening
and
then
how
do
we
as
a
neighborhood
association,
you
know
work
with
the
city
on
sort
of
these
issues.
L
Okay,
we
definitely
were
looking
so
we
are
working.
I
mean
I'm
probably
meeting
more
than
once
a
week
with
the
advocates
who
are
providing
direct
service
to
all
the
camps.
So
we
weekly
have
a
good
sense.
We
don't
have
a
map,
but
we
have
a
mental
map
of
all
the
locations
where
we
know
camping
is
happening
so,
whether
it's
tunnel,
road
or
carlson,
drive
or
century
drive
or
alfalfa,
market
road
or
china
hat
we're
we're
aware
of
those
camps.
Our
outreach
partners
are
are
talking
with
those
community
members
on
a
regular
basis.
L
I
think
the
type
of
things
that
would
be
helpful
from
the
neighborhoods
are:
how
do
we
help
right?
Who
are
the
agencies?
Who
could
provide
this
service
effectively?
So
you
know
shepard's
house,
you
might
be
familiar
with
shepard's
house
they're
on
division
street.
They
are
the
agency
that
got
the
funds
together
to
open
the
warming
shelter.
How
can
we
make
sure
we
that
they
that
shepard
towson
like
them
have
access
to
the
funds
they
need
to
operate?
The
existing
shelter
vets
that
we
have
the
other
would
be
helping
us
identify.
L
What
your
community
needs
to
feel
safe,
so
if
and
I'm
making
this
up
cassie,
because
this
is
not
in
the
plans.
As
far
as
I
know,
if
we
had
a
site
that
was
off
century
drive
and
so
the
camping,
we
know
that
we
have
camping
at
the
campground.
That's
across
from
in
at
the
seventh
mountain
off
century,
drive
what
you
know.
What
sort
of
agreements
would
your
community
need
to
feel
safe,
that
this
managed
camp
was
actually
going
to
protect
your
neighborhood?
L
Not
just
protect
the
guests,
the
people
who
are
staying
at
the
camp?
What
sort
of
expectations
do
you
have
the
for
the
bend
police
department
that
said
okay,
if
you're
going
to
open
these
camps
and
we're
going
to
put
community
resources
and
have
a
managed
camp
program
with
each
of
these
sites?
What's
your
plan
for
moving
the
people
who
aren't
staying
in
those
locations,
because
when
I
look
at
huntle
road
in
particular,
we
don't
have
a
good
solution.
L
We
can't
move
people
off
huntle
road
who
are
camping
there,
because
we
don't
have
a
safer
place
to
put
them
not
put
them,
but
to
ask
them
to
invite
them
to
go
to,
and
so
I
think,
just
some
engagement
on.
Yes,
we
understand
that
this
is
an
issue.
Yes,
we
understand
that
we
need
to
provide
a
safer
location
for
families
to
camp.
Ideally,
we
would
put
them
in
houses.
But
what
are
you
going
to
do
once
we
do
identify
those
sites?
L
L
Yeah,
you
know,
I
think
I
think
you're
asking
for
something
that
you
know
can
the
can
we
provide
more
information
to
the
community
about
the
services
that
are
available.
Can
we
provide
more
opportunities
for
community
members
to
engage
directly
with
the
organizations
that
are
providing
those
services?
L
We
all
know
that
we
don't
want
to
like
just
dump
a
bunch
of
old
clothes
and
use
blankets
at
the
door,
but
I
think
that's
what
you
know
people
want
to
find.
Is
there
a
way
that
I
can
contribute
to
the
solution?
I
think
if
there
is
a
fire
issue,
if
you
want
to
email
me
directly
cassie,
and
then
we
can
go,
look
at
that
and
see
we
have
such
our
arms
around
the
fire
risk
at
juniper
ridge.
L
B
L
So
we
probably
can
figure
out
some
gravel
and
figure
out
what
some
fencing
would
cost.
So
we
could
do
those
back
of
the
envelope,
which
is
part
of
the
kind
of
the
site
feasibility,
but
no
generally,
we
have
never,
as
a
city
entered
into
a
managed
camp
contract.
We
have
some
experience
with
with
the
covid
response
we
provided,
I
think,
a
50,
a
50
000
grant
to
each
reach,
which
is
a
new
nonprofit
and
family
kitchen,
so
that
we
could
provide
services.
L
L
The
city
would
let
we
need
to
take
that
out
and
have
people
propose
to
us
what
that
cost
would
be,
and
then
it
will
be
up
to
us
from
definitely
the
city
council,
probably
funds
coming
from
the
general
fund
to
agree
to
enter
into
those
contracts.
So
it's
the
cost
so
just
to
get
a
sense.
So
when
bethlehem
inn
added
50
beds
to
their
shelter,
it
took
them
three
years
and
cost
nine
million
dollars.
L
L
Someone
on
this
call
is
probably
faster
at
math
and
I
I
think
it
will
be
less
expensive
than
that,
but
for
20,
if
we
think
about
20
campsites,
we're
probably
talking
or
maybe
20
000
a
month,
I'm
making
it
up
but
to
run
to
run
a
managed
camp.
So
that's
what
I'm
estimating,
but
I'm
making
those
numbers
up
kind
of
based
on
my
recently
acquired
knowledge
of
what
it
takes
to
do
this,
and
so
it
will
really
be
up
when
we
do
that
request
for
proposal.
B
L
L
So
we
are
working
we're
working
through
that
they're,
probably
not
the
maybe
the
hotels
you
guess,
but
they
may
not
be.
We
have
one
hotel
that
we
are
the
budget
in
and
the
address
just
lost.
I
just
lost
the
address,
but
that
county
has
that
under
contract
for
covet
isolation
and
related
issues,
and
so
we
imagine
it
would
be
a
very
similar
contract
to
something
like
that.
L
So
the
governor
has
an
executive
board,
and
that
is
how
the
legislature
is
essentially
making
decisions
right
now
through
covid
and
the
legislature
has
allocated
65
million
dollars
to
acquire
motels
and
hotels
in
both
the
fire
stricken
counties.
That
I
mean
that
the
fires
that,
oh,
my
goodness,
the
counties
that
experienced
fire
back
in
september
and
then
they
and
a
portion
of
that
money
is
available
to
other
counties.
L
So
deschutes
county
will
have
access
to
about
35
million
dollars
through
neighbor
impact
and
partners
to
acquire
motels,
and
then
that
leaves
us
as
a
community
to
figure
out
how
we
raise
funds
to
operate
those
shelters.
But
it's
absolutely
at
the
forefront
and
has
been
since
about
march
16th
and
the
new
funds
being
allocated
from
the
e-board
are.
L
A
A
Okay,
let's
get
on
with
some
of
the
work
that
we
have
been
doing
internally,
starting
with
the
land
use
working
group,
and
I
guess
I'll
call
on
dave
orlisa
to
update
us.
I
should
say
by
the
way
that
the
land
use
working
group
did
formally
appoint
lisa
as
chair
so
lisa.
Will
you
speak
first
to
the
october
26
planning
commission
work
session
review.
B
I
I
think
the
planning
commissioners
asked
some
really
good
questions
and
I
want
to
be
just
totally
up
front.
I
think
everybody
around
the
table
knows
that
some
of
the
developers
have
some
concerns
about
these
changes,
in
particular
the
extension
of
time
for
both
the
public
meetings,
as
well
as
the
comment
period
and
a
right
arising
out
of
these
requests.
We
also
met
with
polish
homes.
When
did
we
do
that
about
a
week
and
a
half
ago?
B
I
have
a
feeling
it's
going
to
be
the
same
concerns
that
have
already
been
presented
either
at
the
land
use
working
group
meeting
from
october
or
during
our
presentation
with
the
planning
commission
or
the
subsequent
meeting
with
polish.
So
some
of
the
other
changes
are
are
not
in
question.
Things
like
the
mailed
notices.
B
C
B
B
B
C
Anything
else
on
that.
Yes,
it's
my
opinion
that
one
instance
does
not
settle
a
a
general
problem,
and
I
can
I
you
know.
I
can
always
find
one
instance
that
disproves
something
and-
and
you
don't
have
to
go
far
to
do
that-
show
me
five
out
of
the
what
750
applications
that
went
in
this
year
show
me
five.
That
were
that
you
know
that
were
affected
by
the
changes
that
we're
asking
for
and
and
I'll
consider
them.
But
one
failure
or
one
instance
does
not
make
a
case
for
any
builder.
A
Let
me
interject
there
dave.
I
do
want
to
hear
about
the
yesterday's
planning
commission
meeting
also
but
dave.
I
think
what
you
you
made
an
observation.
You
asked
a
question
and
I
think
they're
related.
I
think
the
the
question
of
why
another
opportunity
for
developers
to
address
us
is
so
they
can
speak
to
those
sorts
of
things
that
you
just
posed,
and
so
I
think,
that's
a
legitimate
question
for
the
16th.
C
I
C
C
A
J
I
guess
I
could
summarize
quickly
what
I
thought
I
heard
the
main
focus
was
on
what
the
juniper
ridge
advisory
committee
has
done
in
the
overlay
zone,
and
then
there
wasn't
very
much
talk
about
what
carolyn
talked
about
today.
What
might
be
happening
in
the
other
part
of
juniper
ridge,
minute
people
here,
juniper
ridge,
they
have
a
concept
in
their
mind
and
they
either
get.
J
The
city-
I
can't
remember
his
name,
the
guy
from
the
city
who
has
worked
with
the
juniper
ridge
advisory
committee,
did
most
of
that
yeah
matt
yeah,
matt
sport
and
there
were
very
there-
wasn't
a
good
deal
of
exploration
into
what
juniper
ridge
the
changes
in
code
there
might
mean
for
the
rest
of
the
city.
It
didn't
seem
to
be
too
problematic
to
me
that
it's
pretty
site
specific,
I
I
did
catch
one
question
about
well.
J
You
know
not
maybe
enough
units
to
to
keep
everybody
in
the
store,
but
five
to
ten
something
like
that
apartments
would
go
along
with
the
grocery
store,
and
I
really
think
that
would
be
an
excellent
approach
for
ben
to
consider.
But
that's
my
personal
opinion
and
yeah
I
don't
have.
I
think,
that's
summarizes
everything
I
can
remember
at
the
moment.
From
that
meeting.
I
did
take
some
notes.
J
That's
true
and
they
compared
prices
of
juniper
ridge
with
other
places
in
oregon,
and
there
was
a
variety
as
to
whether
they
people
thought
it
was
way
more
expensive
or
way
less
expensive.
There
are
a
lot
of
rock
outcroppings
there
that
are
supposed
to
be
incorporated
and
maybe
not
busted
down
to
flat
earth
and
of
course,
previous
to
now,
there
really
weren't
services
there.
Why
would
you
want
to
build
if
there
was
going
to
be
a
sewer
coming
through?
You
know
that
would
disrupt
everything.
B
A
A
A
You
can
get
all
of
these,
of
course,
but
council
work
session
is
tentatively
set
for
jan
20
council
hearing
and
first
reading,
feb
3
second
reading
feb
17
effective
date
march.
20,
if
things
go
to
this
schedule,
so
the
juniper
ridge
code
amendments
would
be
effective
again,
it's
a
ways
out,
but
march
20
will
be
the
effective
date.
If
that
all
goes
to
schedule.
B
Hans
excuse
me,
sorry,
just
to
add
we
we
do
have
the
land
use
working
group
meeting
this
thursday
afternoon
from
three
to
five.
One
of
the
things
that
did
come
out
of
the
discussion
with
polish
is
that
they
really
did
appreciate
an
invitation
for
them
to
attend
that
working
session
or
that
work
group
meeting,
and
I
think
that
we
can
develop
some
some
good
partnership
ideas
during
that
session.
B
A
Thank
you
michaela.
We
had
our
first
boundaries
working
group
meeting
november
3rd,
and
maybe
we
had
some
technical
glitches,
but
only
five
of
our
eight
members
were
present.
We
had
karen
bergsfield
offered
to
chair
that
group,
but
until
we
all
meet
together
as
a
group
we'll
table
that
for
the
moment,
so
I
would
say
that
anyone
that
didn't
attend.
If
you
have
an
interest
in
sharing
the
boundaries
group,
we
will
bring
that
up
at
our
next
meeting.
That
meeting
is
yet
to
be
determined.
A
We
want
to
be
sure
that
there's
a
level
of
support
on
the
nla
to
move
forward,
but
our
plan
would
be
to
use
the
input
from
each
of
our
nas
within
the
nla
context
and
per
the
next
boundaries
group
meeting
to
structure
something
that
we
could
take
to
council
and
put
it
on
their
radar
for
goal
setting
for
the
biennium.
So
this
is
very
similar
to
what
we
did
with
the
land
use
working
group
in
the
spring
of
actually
18.
A
A
A
Yes,
okay,
any
any
questions
on
that
we're
not
gonna.
We
probably
won't
have
a
december
meeting
so
the
action
item
here
our
homework
for
each
of
us.
I
will
speak
to
abn
and
the
reports,
but
our
homework,
if
you
will,
is
to
be
sure
that
we
come
to
the
next
boundaries
meeting
with
clear
understanding
of
where
our
respective
boards
and
members
stand
with
respect
to
the
work
that
we
propose
to
do
on
neighborhood
association
boundaries.
E
Yeah,
it's
confusing
to
our
neighborhood,
which
option
we
are
involved
in
because
I
know
michaela
said
possibly:
option
two
and
we're
having
a
board
meeting
on
monday
to
kind
of
review
the
questions,
but
we're
not
really
sure
how
we
fit
into
the
discussion
and
but
basically
we're
supposed
to
review
the
options
and
see
where
we
that
we
feel
about
them.
Is
that
correct.
A
Yeah,
so
let
me
let
me
share
that,
and
then
at
least
I'll
I'll
get
to
you.
I
should
have
mentioned
that.
I
think
we
somewhat
misled
ourselves.
If
you
will,
we
had
three
options
and
one
of
the
options
mentioned
nart
and
I
think
the
intention
there
was
that
nart
probably
is
in
a
position
to
gather
information
or
to
provide
something
to
nla
for
consideration.
We
talked
about
this
similar
to
the
way
the
bend
neighborhood
coalition
provided
a
lot
of
important
information
for
our
land
use
working
group
to
consider.
A
But
I
want
to
be
clear
that
that
option-
and
I
probably
misstated
this
during
the
boundaries
meeting,
but
that
option
was
not
for
the
nla
to
assign
work
to
narc.
That
would
be
an
extension
of
the
nla
and
that
would
be
a
violation
of
public
meeting
rules,
so
I
will
be
going
to
the
north
meeting
on
monday
and
I
will
make
that
very
clear
to
nar.
A
Our
our
thought
was
that
narc
is
in
a
position
to
gather
information
and
supplement,
maybe
even
make
some
proposals
or
recommendations
to
the
nla,
but
we
are
not
going
to
direct
them
to
do
any
work.
I
think
our
our
our
options
here
are.
First
of
all,
we
need
to
agree
that
that
our
nas
support
the
concept
of
addressing
neighborhood
association
boundaries.
A
For
some
of
the
reasons
we've
talked
about
like
the
potential
to
maybe
merge,
neighboring
n
a's
for
stronger
and
deeper
boards,
or
the
potential
to
use
resources
differently.
We've
talked
about
more
equitable
representation
of
all
of
the
members
in
the
city
or
the
underrepresented
groups,
particularly
the
2380,
undeveloped
acres.
B
Exactly
what
hans
is
saying,
but
I
I
want
to
point
out
that,
just
because
we
saw
three
options
on
a
slide,
we're
not
limited
to
just
those
options,
so
I
don't
think
that
anyone
should
say
this
is
the
only
way
it
can
be
option,
a
b
or
c
what
we're
trying
to
do.
We,
we
were
trying
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
structure
and
provide
a
little
bit
of
a
of
an
idea
of
how
it
could
go.
B
We
don't
really
have
an
idea
and
until
the
the
boundaries
group
really
gets
in
there
and
and
rolls
their
sleeve
up
and
and
starts
talking
about
what
are
the
issues
we
think
we
know
what
the
issues
are.
You
know
we.
We
think
that
we've
got
a
significant
imbalance
of
neighborhood
associations
on
the
east
side
compared
to
the
west
side,
where
in
some
cases
you
know
gosh,
what
is
it?
B
One
neighborhood
is
ten
times
as
large
as
another
neighborhood
and
that
just
doesn't
quite
seem
right
to
use
that
word
in
terms
of
representation,
so
we're
not
limited
to
just
those
options,
but
the
boundaries
group
needs
to
officially
meet
and
and
needs
to
start
asking
the
questions
you
know:
how
do
we
define
our
neighborhoods?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
define
a
member?
B
B
A
lot
of
these
neighborhood
associations
define
members
very
differently
whether
it
is
the
property
owner,
whether
it
is
the
person
who
lives
at
the
property.
Some
neighborhoods
count
the
household
as
a
member,
while
other
neighborhoods
count.
Maybe
it's
everybody
who
lives
within
that
household.
So
maybe
it's
three
people
rather
than
just
one
household,
and
we
need
to
understand
some
basics
so
that
we
can
get
some
commonality
and
and
understand
where
we
need
to
move.
C
A
In
let
me
say,
dave
dave,
I
I
don't
disagree
with
that,
but
I
want
to
get
back
to
what
we
really
need
to
do
as
representatives
to
our
nas.
We
need
to
be
clear
that
there's
an
understanding
that
there
are
reasons
to
consider
shifting
in
a
boundaries.
We
need
to
be
clear
that
no
one
is
going
to
be
forced
to
do
something.
It
would
have
to
be
a
collective
collaborative
effort
of
all
dnas
working
for
the
greater
good
trying
to
achieve,
ultimately
what
neighborhood
associations
were
intended
to
do,
and
that
is
really
represent
its
members.
A
But
that
being
said,
I
think
the
first
order
of
business
is
for
the
nas
to
weigh
in
on
this
and
say
that
they
support
the
idea
of
a
process
to
address
these
boundaries.
This
isn't
what's
going
to
happen,
we
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
really.
What
we're
asking
for,
I
think,
is
let
us
know
if
your
board
supports
the
idea
of
us,
proposing
to
counsel
that
council
review
the
value
of
addressing
neighborhood
association
boundaries.
That's
really
our
first
action
item
here.
A
The
options
might
have
been,
arguably
maybe
they
were
premature,
but
the
first
order
of
business
is:
do
we
as
a
as
an
advisory
committee
fundamentally
and
by
majority,
support
the
idea
of
asking
council
to
consider
boundaries
as
a
council
goal?
That's
really
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
Lisa.
Did
you
have
your
hand
up?
A
E
Mckayla's
put
together
a
list
of
questions
that
we
were
looking
to
answer
and
then
there's
you
know,
then
there's
the
question
as
to
where
do
we
as
a
neighborhood
association,
see
ourselves
in
terms
of?
Do
we
want
to
see
those
boundaries
change?
That's
what
I
thought
I
heard
you
say
so,
that's
sort
of
sort
of
two
different
areas
of
how
do
we
address
the
questions
that
michael
sent
out
versus?
What
do
we
want
to
do
as
a
neighborhood
association.
A
Well,
I
think
those
I
think
those
discussion
prompts
were
to
stimulate
discussion
among
your
board,
not
necessarily,
I
wouldn't
say
they
were
merely
rhetorical,
but
I
don't
think
you
were
expected
to
necessarily
ask
each
of
those
questions.
It
was
really
to
stimulate
the
discussion.
I
think
we
all
know
that
this
undeveloped
land
is
going
to
get
developed.
People
are
going
to
live
there
and
they
need
to
be
represented,
like
all
of
us
are
currently
that's
a
given,
so
that
part
of
the
argument
seems
moot,
but
the
question
is.
A
A
Those
are
the
sorts
of
things
that
that
endorse
the
value
of
making
this
something
that
council
considers,
because
there
are
so
many
aspects
to
this
and
there's
going
to
be
so
many
more
people
coming
into
our
city
over
the
next
five
to
10
years.
Those
are
the
reasons
we
collectively
as
an
advisory
committee
need
to
decide
if
this
is
worthy
for
the
value
of
neighborhood
associations
in
the
future
have
been.
Are
we
going
to
ask
council
to
make
this
a
goal
that
we
study
over
the
next
couple
of
years?
A
So
I
don't
disagree
with
that
at
all,
but
I
think
I
want
to
get
back
to
pointing
out
that
what
we're
saying
here
is:
are
we
ready
to
say
council?
This
is
something
that
really
needs
to
be
tackled
like
land
use,
education,
it'll
be
long
term
and
it'll
happen
over
a
couple
of
years.
It'll
probably
still
be
happening
in
the
biannual
after
the
next
biennium,
but
it's
time
to
get
started
on
this,
because
our
demographics
have
changed
so
much.
A
Our
growth
has
changed
so
much
since
15
or
almost
20
years
ago,
when
nas
were
first
formed.
So
I
think
it's
something
that's
probably
overdue
and
we're
putting
it
on
the
table
saying
this
is
something
that's
important
for
all
of
our
residents
and
we
want
council
support
and
we
need
council
to
validate
that
they
see
the
value
in
that
each
na
has
to
weigh
in
on
that
the
way
I'm
perceiving
this.
C
A
Well,
I'm
not
I'm
what
I'm
saying
is
this
topic
has
been
ever
since
we
first
discussed
it
two
years
ago.
It
was
in
our
strategic
plan
to
bring
this
to
council.
This
is
in
our
roadmap,
we
are
saying
to
council
or
we
are
asking
council.
This
has
been
on
our
roadmap
for
two
years
and
we
are
ready
to
start
working
on
this
with
your
support.
We'd
like
you
to
incorporate
this
in
city
goals,
if
you
see
the
value
and
the
appropriateness
of
it,
so
this
is
something
we
this
is.
H
The
nla
is
going
to
work
alongside
council,
alongside
city
staff,
to
come
up
with
a
solution
that
works
for
everyone,
and
so
just
this
first
step
here
is
finishing.
Those
discussion
prompts,
I
think
you
will
see
in
the
prompts
once
you
get
talking
with
your
boards,
that
we're
not
asking
you
to
choose
the
through
one
of
the
three
options.
We're
saying
do
you
prefer
any
of
those
options?
If
not,
what
what
other
ideas
do
you
have
and
so
dave?
H
That
would
be
a
great,
a
great
opportunity
to
put
something
about
your
mentorship
idea
in
there,
and
so
that's
that's
really
we're
just
in
the
information
gathering
stage,
and
so
what
our
ask
of
you
is
that
you
start
these
conversations
with
your
boards
and
get
us.
Those
discussion
prompts
promptly.
A
Okay,
let's
move
on
to
reports,
we
still
have
time.
I
will
kick
it
off,
because
I
usually
follow
a
roll
call,
so
I
will
say-
and
I
will
send-
I
have
a
board
meeting
tomorrow.
I
will
put
more
more
detail
to
this,
but
I
will
say
well
we're
still
on
this
topic.
I've
been
talking
to
my
board
for
months
now
about
boundaries.
It's
no
new
subject.
The
abna
board
supports
reviewing
addressing
considering
changes
in
the
boundaries.
A
I
will
reiterate
that
we
are
looking
at
an
art
as
a
group
that,
if
they
want
to
bring
us
considerations
for
our
work,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
nla
directed,
I
want
to
mention
too
michaela-
was
kind
enough
to
include
our
our
abn
a
experience
with
our
virtual
general
membership
meeting
and
I
think
there's
enough
there
for
all
of
you
to
move
forward.
If
you
decide
to
do
a
virtual
meeting.
Naturally,
if
there's
voting
involved
and
it's
electronic,
that's
something
different-
that
I'm
not
getting
into
your
bylaws.
A
Just
saying
that
for
us
that
that
that
virtual
general
membership
meeting
was
really
really
well
attended
and
basically
you're
just
having
a
zoom
meeting
with
your
board
for
all
intent
purposes.
But
it's
streaming
to
youtube
and
we've
had
well
over
800
hits
of
that
recorded
general
membership
meeting.
So
really
encourage
you
to
consider
that
it's
it's
pretty
painless
and
straightforward
when
you
have
one
small
technical
glitch.
A
A
There
are
pockets
of
situations
like
this,
probably
in
all
the
nas,
and
I
know
that
boyd
acres
is
is
very
concerned
about
particularly
juniper
rich,
but
we
have
had
some
some
success
in
our
n
a
using
these
really
hot
topics
to
generate
some
dialogue,
get
people
to
come
to
our
website.
Ask
questions
and
we've
picked
up
membership
from
it,
but
it
also
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
get
in
touch
with
people
and
weigh
in
on
how
they
feel-
and
I
know
that,
there's
all
the
accusations
about
nimby
but
look
these
are.
A
These
are
really
emotional
things
sometimes,
and
if
it's
an
opportunity
that
you
can
put
real
information
to
your
membership,
I
I
think
we
all
want
to
be
timely
and
relevant.
That's
how
we
build
membership
for
the
most
part.
So
I'd
say
you
know,
juniper
is
just
an
opportunity.
I
mean
engage
in
form
represent
that's
what
we
say
from
time
to
time,
and
I
want
to.
A
I
want
to
say
thanks
to
lisa
too,
for
setting
up
that
meeting
with
polish
and
and
let
me
attend,
I
I'm
really
enthused
that
polish
and
others,
but
polish
particularly
expressed
their
desire
to
to
work
with
us
in
the
land,
use
education,
and
I
think
that's
really
valuable.
So
with
that
enough
of
that,
I
will
move
on
to
lisa.
B
Ultimately,
I
have
five
board
members
and
of
those
board
members.
I
am
really
challenged
with
getting
anyone
to
step
up
into
official
roles,
like
vice
chair
secretary
treasurer,
land
use,
chair
and
communications,
and
so
around
the
boundaries
discussion.
We've
been
taking
a
look
at
that
very
seriously
at
looking
at
our
nearby
neighbors,
because
it
may
be
beneficial
for
us
to
combine
with
other
nas
in
order
to
spread
out
some
of
the
work
right
now.
B
Most
of
the
work
is
landing
on
my
shoulders
and
I
didn't
anticipate
being
involved
in
a
neighborhood
association
on
a
full-time
basis.
So
I
I
am
eager
to
move
the
boundaries
discussion
forward
from
that
perspective.
Other
than
that,
we
had
wonderful,
congratulations
for
nathan
and
carrying
off
the
land
use
candidate
forum.
B
It
went
off
wonderfully
as
we've
been
talking
about,
but
nathan
was
very
instrumental
with
that
and
we
finalized
or
finished
the
meeting,
rather
with
a
topic
on
our
upcoming
firewise
meeting
and
what
that
might
look
like
whether
it's
going
to
be
in
person
or
somehow
a
virtual
firewise
event.
That's.
K
K
So
we're
having
people
submit
questions
in
advance
century,
west
and
old
farm
in
southern
crossing,
we're
sharing
storage
space
now
and
splitting
the
cost.
So
if
any
other
nas
are
interested,
please
let
me
know
there's
more
room
and
it
lowers
our
cost
to
a
nominal
thing,
and
you
don't
have
to
keep
things
in
your
garage
anymore.
K
The
storage
unit
is
by
crux
or
spoken
moto,
and,
and
so
we
would
welcome
other
nas
if
you
want
to
store
things,
and
I
think
it
helps
all
of
us
in
the
end.
Speaking
of
helping
each
other
michaela
put
out
that
I
was
working
on
bylaws
a
couple
months
ago
and
I
did
work
on
southern
crossing
bylaws,
but
two
other
nas
have
come
forward
in
the
last
30
days.
That
also
want
to
do
bylaw
work,
and
so
I
suggested
that
maybe
in
the
winter
we
could
take
it
offline.
K
D
Okay,
just
had
to
unmute
here,
so
we've
resumed
our
meetings,
they've
been
kind
of
outside
in-person
gatherings
at
the
at
the
over
at
mountain
high
and
but
come
the
winter
time.
It's
gonna
be
a
little
more
challenging
because
we
kind
of
lost
our
our
inside
meeting
place
over
at
the
the
south
fire
station
across
from
the
country
club.
D
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we're
interested
in
is
that
whatever
makes
us
have
more
impact
with
the
city,
because
there's
some
feeling
about
the
board
that
we
probably
don't
have
the
impact
that
we'd
like
to
have-
and
maybe
some
of
that
is
due
to
you-
know
how
small
we
are
because
we're
the
second
smallest
group
here.
The
other
thing
is,
I
do
have
a
couple
concerns.
D
D
We
just
got
notified
that
it's
going
to
be
closed
from
country
club
to
peril
road
until
next
summer
and
that's
a
huge
impact
on
the
fairway
and
power
roads
in
the
wildwood
subdivision
and
so
we're
kind
of
wondering
if
there's
some
mitigation,
that
can
be
done
to
kind
of
reduce
the
the
load
of
traffic
on
that
particular
development.
So
I
would
be
hoping
the
city
could
kind
of
take
a
look
at
that
and
get
back
to
us
and
see
what
could
be
done.
D
So
one
of
our
issues
was,
we
haven't,
had
city
reps
attend
to
sedna
meetings,
but
I
understand
from
an
earlier
intervention
that
michaela
is
willing
to
do
that.
So
I
will
work
with
the
board
and
see
if
we
can
extend
an
invitation
and
get
her
to
come
to
one
of
the
meetings
and
you
know
listen
to
our
concerns
and
then
the
last
one
is,
you
know
again,
I
think
relative
to
our
size.
D
D
A
Thanks
jim,
that's
that's
exactly.
What
we
hope
to
do
is
be
sure
that
we
understand
what
your
board
members
are
concerned
about.
I
notice
when
kayla
taking
notes,
I
suspect,
she's
going
to
reach
out
to
david
avis
and
his
team
regarding
murphy
road.
So
I
expect
something
will
happen
there.
Chris
chris
freeze.
F
N
Sorry
to
interrupt,
I
can
speak
to
that
so
new
council
members
come
on
in
january
and
then
they
they
may
if
they
have,
if
any
of
them
have
interest
in
being
liaisons
to
particular
committees.
They
may
ask
the
mayor,
but
that's
probably
something
that
will
get
sorted
out,
hopefully
hopefully
before
the
end
of
january,
but
there's
no
formal
process
for
doing
it.
F
N
H
H
I'm
working
with
ann
on
this
also,
and
so
I'd
be
curious.
If
you
do
are
having
that
discussion,
you
have
certain
people
in
mind
that
you
feel
like
would
be
good,
fits
for
your
boards
and
feel
free
to
send
that
to
me,
so
that
I
can
have
that
on
the
top
of
mind
as
we
go
through
this
process
of
the
signing.
F
You
know
the
historic
nature
of
the
hood,
we're
very
happy
that
the
transportation
system
plan
passed,
and
we
hope
that
that
will
help
with
our
safety
issue
in
our
neighborhood,
which
is
cut
through
traffic
on
sizemore.
This
is
truly
fast
and
dangerous,
and
a
lot
of
blind
intersections
that
people
blow
through.
So
there
needs
to
be
some
traffic
easement.
It's
was
our
request
and
it's
it's
moving
too
slowly.
F
Where
the
parking
district
is
coming
and
we
we
will
be
the
the
first
parking
district
will
be
in
our
neighborhood.
It's
on
the
west
half
of
old
bend,
which
could
save
serve
as
an
unfortunate
dividing
issue
in
the
neighborhood
of
those
in
the
parking
district
and
those
not.
But
the
decision
was
largely
the
neighbors
that
the
western
half
of
the
neighborhood
was
much
more
impacted
by
events.
F
E
Cassie
hi
yeah.
I
wanted
to
say
that
we're
our
board
meeting
monday
we're
definitely
reviewing
the
boundaries
issue.
So
thank
you
for
that
clarification
and
we
have
our
we're
pushing
our
annual
meeting
out
to
february,
but
I
wanted
to
ask
karen
if
she
had
done
any
work
on
the
virtual
vote.
I
don't
know
if
that's
happening
and
if
you
have
any
other
information
on
your
board
meeting
house
working.
I
would
love
to
get
your
feedback
from
on
that.
E
K
F
E
Okay
and
I'm
just
going
to
add
to
make
because
we're
I'm
sure
that
we
have
the
newport
corridor
project
is
a
big
issue
in
our
neighborhood
right
now.
The
city
is
doing
some
open
houses
and
they're
starting
construction
on
2021
and
spring,
but
if
anybody's
interested
in
that
project
they
can
go
to
the
website.
There's
a
lot
of
information
on
it.
It's
going
to
be
a
sewer
and
infrastructure
project.
E
C
The
bus
service
down
15th
and
then
across
to
murphy
and
we're
pleased
that
we're
going
to
get
a
a
bus
route
that
is
within
walking
distance
of
a
lot
of
our
a
lot
of
our
people.
The
the
east
side
and
south
of
reed
market
has
been
terribly
underserved
by
the
bus
routes.
So
we
we
love
that
and,
and
while
well
chris
is
still
on.
Excuse
me,
since
jim
cristo
is
still
on
my
my
chair
would
like
to
to
send
some
stuff
to
me.
C
C
C
M
C
J
This
is
boyd
acres
and
I
guess
most
of
the
board's
energy
has
been
going
into
opposition
to
the
transitional
camp
at
juniper
ridge.
We
have
had
several
board
meetings
about
that.
I've
been
the
lone
no
vote
on
most
things
and
just
a
thought
when
we
have
a
vote
here
on
the
nla
about
things,
and
there
are
one
or
two
several
people
who
are
not
voting
with
the
majority.
Would
it
be
possible
to
record
that
in
the
notes?
J
Just
so
that,
if
notes
go
to
city
council,
something
they
can
see
that
there
was
not
unison
anyway,
we
are
having
vana
is
having
a
meeting
on
wednesday,
a
virtual
meeting,
and
it's
going
to
have
a
cet
presenting
to
us
about
possible
bus
routes.
Now
coming
to
our
area,
which
would
be
a
big
improvement.
It
would
take
me
an
hour
to
walk
to
a
bus
route
as
it
currently
is.
J
Certainly
the
new
polish
development
out
in
the
square
as
they
call
it.
I
forgot
it's
called
petrossa.
I
think
it's
what
it's
called
where
that's
going
to
go
might
influence
things.
We
have
parts
of
our
neighborhood
that
are
not
particularly
active.
The
part
that's
to
the
west
of
highway
97
that
hangs
out
between
upon
and
your
area
hans.
We
don't
get
very
much
participation
from
those
folks.
Maybe
they
would
like
to
be
added
to
aubry
butte
rather
than
being
part
of
bonna.
J
J
Joette
storm
did
it
and
I
don't
remember
all
the
details,
but
if
somebody
wants
to
contact
them,
I
can
get
you
their
contact
or,
I
think
michaela
has
it
so
that
they
could
get
you
information
about
how
we
did
our
virtual
vote
and
we
are
also
in
the
position
of
having
when
new
people
come
on.
They
mostly
don't
want
to
take
on
a
vice
chair
job.
J
They
want
to
do
something
else,
both
of
our
newest
members,
to
the
board
kind
of
have
their
own
focus
as
to
what
they
want
to
do,
or
they
have
limited
time.
And
yes,
we
have
people
with
on
the
board
who
are
threatening
to
quit
all
the
time,
because
they're
just
overwhelmed
our
land
use
chair.
I
think
it's
pretty
much
a
full-time
job
for
him.
It's
way
more
work
for
me
than
I
ever
anticipated,
being
both
nla
and
the
secretary
to
the
board.
J
So
I
I
sympathize
with
those
comments
and
oh,
I
also
think
that
we're
having
julie
craig
from
the
city
come
to
talk
about
reducing
fuels
and
controlling
or
treating
vegetation
around
areas
to
to
reduce
fire
risk
in
areas.
I
hope
she's
coming.
We'd
set
it
up
at
one
time
and
may
have
fallen
through.
So
that's
what
I
know-
and
I
thought
this
was
a
really
good
meeting.
A
Okay,
hey!
Thank
you
all.
Thanks
for
the
extra
few
minutes,
I
appreciate
all
the
input
kathy
thanks,
especially
for
that
input
regarding
those
folks
in
boyd
acres
that
are
more
operable,
adjacent,
we'll
figure
out,
maybe
you
and
I
can
figure
out
how
best
to
represent
them
and
just
a
reminder
for
land
use
working
group
we'll
be
meeting
in
a
couple
of
days.
So
thank
you
all.
I
appreciate
it
good
evening.