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A
So
welcome
to
today's
meeting.
We
will
start
the
meeting
off
by
calling
roll-
and
I
am
here
as
the
chair,
lisa
muscle,
cassie,
hello,
and
how
about
dave,
I'm
here
great
and
then
I
want
to
recognize.
We
have
two
other
committee
members,
debbie,
dewis
and
mike
walker.
Debbie
is
part
of
southern
crossing.
Mike
is
part
of
river
west
and
looks
like
we
also
have
colin
stevens
from
staff.
A
A
A
F
A
C
C
Can
you
see
the
color
coding
there?
It
is
okay!
Thank
you,
okay
yeah.
So
this
is
a
little.
This
document
is
a
little
different
than
your
education
resources
document,
and
this
one
is
the
actual,
like
land
use
education
plan,
which
is
largely
an
internal
document.
We
have
shared
this
plan
with
council
at
the
top.
It
looks
like
this,
so
if
you
I
sent
it
out
about
a
month
ago,
so
you
should
have
it
but
I'll,
send
it
out
again
after
this.
C
So
the
first
part
of
this
document-
and
I'm
sorry
I
have
document-
add
when
it
comes
to
this
so
I'll,
try
not
to
make
you
dizzy.
We
outlined
our
goals,
the
target
audiences
that
we've
worked
with
in
information
gathering,
and
this
is
all
information
that
you
guys
have
heard
before
in
council,
check-ins
and
in
previous
conversations
that
we've
had-
and
this
is
just
the
work
that
was
done
to
develop
the
education
plan
under
strategies.
C
These
also
were
presented
in
council
goals
so
to
create
and
revamp
existing
educational
resources
to
support
better
knowledge
and
understanding
among
community
members
of
oregon's,
unique
land
use
laws
and
how
they
impact
ben's
comprehensive
plan
in
public
process.
That's
the
first
one.
The
second
is
to
develop
a
new
land
use
section
on
the
city
of
bend
website.
C
C
So
I'm
going
to
skip
key
messages,
and
I
think
what's
important
here
is
the
timeline,
and
so
we've
kind
of
come
away
from
this.
You
know
hype.
We
still
identify
them
as
high
priority
medium
priority
and
lower
priority
so
that
we
know
what
to
work
on
first,
but
as
far
as
getting
it
done
within
a
set
period
of
months,
we've
kind
of
come
away
with
that.
Just
because
we
know
some
documents
are
taking
longer
than
we
expected
and
some
aren't
going
to
take
very
long
at
all.
C
So
under
the
2019,
this
was
everything
that
was
done
last
year
for
2020.
This
yeah
2019
was
largely
information
gathering
in
2020
we
started
with
council
check-in,
and
so
that
was
in
july,
we
presented
our
this
education
plan
and
began
drafting
these
resources,
and
so
let's
see
this
is
the
part
that
has
kind
of
changed,
so
we're
not
so
much
going
in
the
three-month
increment
increments
anymore.
C
G
C
C
C
C
Yeah,
so
at
this
time
we
plan
to
have
that
first
102,
video
done
and
by
the
end
of
the
year
we
plan
to
have
the
developer
packet
done
by
the
end
of
the
year.
We
plan
to
get
a
really
good
start
on
the
land
use
chair
handbook,
and
then
we
may
even
have
some
interactive
map
samples
done
by
january,
and
so
in
january
it's
going
to
be
a
really
good
time
to
launch
that
website
corner.
I
think
we'll
have
enough
documents
to
make
it
substantive
to
where
we
can
start
to
build
on
it.
I
I
think
we
have
been
looking
at
this
from
putting
together
three
buckets
which
doesn't
always
fit
neatly
under
your
high
priority,
medium
priority
and
lower
priority,
and
so
that's
why
I
think,
if
anything,
there's
maybe
a
little
confusion
and
trying
to
use
the
tool
you
have
in
front
of
us
we're
thinking
of
this
as
developer
packet
chair
and
then
the
third
being
the
tools
the
packages
we
put
together
for
the
citizen,
the
average
person
going
to
a
website.
So
I'm
just
pointing
that
out.
I
A
So
we
we
have.
We,
we
kind
of
have
two
lists
going
and
they
interact
with
each
other.
So
it's
almost
like
as
though
really
what
you
should
be
looking
at
is
when
we
look
at
developer
land
use,
chair
and
citizen,
we
have
high
medium
and
low
under
each
one
of
those
headings,
and
this
spreadsheet
that
michaela's,
pointing
out,
probably
incorporates
all
of
that
it
doesn't
break
it
out
into
sub-sections.
I
A
C
D
C
C
C
C
Our
interactive
neighborhood
zoning
map-
that
is,
a
document
that
is
actually
being
worked
on
by
gis.
They
came
and
visited
us
last
month
for
our
meeting
and
got
some
good
feedback
and
then
decided
that
with
the
feedback
from
the
community
survey
and
what
we
talked
about
in
our
group,
they're,
going
to
put
together
more
of
a
a
testing
site,
something
that
you
guys
can
actually
get
in
and
play
in
and
then
provide
feedback
on
and
so
they're
in
the
process
of
building
that
and
they
plan
to
have
it
done
by
the
year.
End.
C
C
C
C
I
wanted
to
confirm
with
this
group.
It
is
a
one-pager
that
basically
explains
what
a
public
meeting
is.
I
think
when
we
first
talked
about
this
document,
we
discussed
having
it
at
as
like
the
land
use
chair
or
the
developer,
would
bring
it
to
a
public
meeting
and
have
it
available
as
a
handout
for
people
who
attended
and
those
who
attended
could
grab
it
when
they
signed
in,
and
it
says,
hey
welcome
to
a
public
meeting.
This
is
what
a
public
meeting
is.
C
C
B
D
G
Thanks
lisa,
can
I
ask
a
question
about
the
developer
packet?
It's
first,
it's
my
understanding
that
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
provide
the
developer
with
something
that
would
really
facilitate
the
interaction
with
the
public
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
high
priority
work
here.
We're
working
fast
and
furious
on
that
developer
packet,
but
I'm
taking
a
step
back
wondering.
G
Are
we
at
risk
of
getting
too
far
down
this
road
without
having
a
developer,
understand
or
give
a
little
bit
of
feedback
on
our
approach
just
to
make
sure
we
don't
later
develop
this?
What
we
think
is
a
wonderful
resource
developers
and
they
say
yeah.
You
know
this
doesn't
help
me.
It
would
have
been
nice
if
you
did
x,
y
or
z,
or
did
we
have
that
conversation,
and
I
forgot.
A
Well,
I
think
we
attempted
to
have
that
conversation
and
at
one
point
we
talked
about
sending
the
developer
packet
to
developers
to
have
them
comment,
and
I
I'm
sorry
that
polish
homes
is
not
here,
but
we
did
have
polish
homes
volunteered
to
take
a
look
at
this
packet
for
us.
I
think
that
would
be
a
really
good
next
step.
D
C
A
J
I
particularly
think
that's
really
important,
not
really
other
than
wanting
everything
to
be
neat
and
tidy
and
traceable
directly
to
the
code.
But
a
developer
like
polish,
might
think
it's
material,
so
I
think
getting
their
input,
especially
on
that
narrative
content,
where
we're
essentially
trying
to
translate
or
or
put
into
narrative
form
the
code
provisions,
I
think
is,
is
a
good
idea.
A
So
I
think
that
has
partially
been
the
delay
in
this
process.
Is
that
we've
been
waiting
on
design
and
review
and
part
of
it
needed
to
go
to
legal
for
their
comments,
etc.
But
we've
been
working
on
this
document
for
quite
some
time,
so
moving
it
forward
would
be
great,
and
I
I
personally
don't
have
a
problem
having
a
separate
meeting
with
polish
and
walking
them
through
this
document
and
getting
their
comments.
A
G
A
Yeah,
so
I
guess
I
I
would
propose
meeting
with
the
developers
on
this
packet
and
when
I
say
the
developers,
I
would
propose
sending
out
an
invitation
to
polish,
to
karna,
augusta
senate
coba
and
to
anyone
else
that
that
this
committee
suggests
and
walk
them
through
this
developer
packet
and
get
their
input
prior
to
our
next
meeting,
so
that
we
can
move
this
forward.
A
little
faster.
H
H
E
Yeah,
I'm
kind
of
this
is
debbie,
I'm
kind
of
agreeing
I'm
agreeing
also
with
cass
what
cassidy's
saying
I
don't
want
to
just
send
it
out
to
a
whole
group
all
of
the
developers
in
bend.
I
think
the
people
who
seem
really
concerned
about
it
and
interested
in
it.
It
should
be
a
small
group
and
obviously
we're
getting
some
big
developers
who
are
interested,
and
I
think
that's
good
enough.
A
So,
just
to
clarify
the
concern
that
we
are
hearing
from
developers
is
not
around
the
the
this
packet.
The
concern
that
we
have
been
hearing
is
around
code
changes
but
debbie.
I
think
what
you
are
intending
is
that
we
reach
out
to
those
people
who
have
expressed
concern
around
those
code
changes
and
start
with
that.
As
our
test
group
for
the
developer
packet.
D
I
I
would
just
caution
that
when
you
send
just
one
piece
out,
the
developer
is
going
to
look
for
developer
packet
and
he's
going
to
say
well
wait
a
minute.
This
looks
like
it's
all
on
his
back
and
he's
not
seeing
what's
being
looked
in
the
meantime,
the
second
two
pieces
does
it
make
sense
when
you
bring
a
developer
and
say
here's,
the
developer
at
least
show
him
the
outline
for
the
other
two
packets.
A
I
You
know
I'm
kind
of
anxious
to
get
this
done
too,
so
it
doesn't
stretch
out
over
months
and
months
and
months
yeah.
I
think
for
me.
The
costs
mostly
come
from
ian
on
the
developer
packet.
We
can
address
pretty
easily
quickly
it's
getting
looking
at
the
outline
for
the
chair.
Looking
at
an
outline
for
what
do
we
provide
for
the
citizen,
please
get
the
basic
outline
yep,
that's
how
it's
going
to
flow.
Then
we
can
start
flushing
them
out.
A
C
B
C
A
A
C
C
A
Yeah,
so
I
had
shared
that
document
with
you
and
I
left
it
at
where
it
was.
I
think
I
I
gathered.
I
can't
remember
if
it
were,
we
had
something
like
ten
neighborhood.
Maybe
it
was
nine
or
ten
neighborhood
associations
responded
to
my
inquiry
about
the
best
place
to
hold
their
public
meetings,
and
I
I
left
it
at
that
point.
Part
of
it
was.
We
had
a
couple
of
neighborhood
associations
that
were
in
flux
and
we
didn't
have
contact
people
or
whatever,
but
I
can't
continue
to
chase
them
down
forever.
So.
C
I
A
A
B
A
B
I
A
A
I
think
that
we
probably
need
to
do
a
little
bit
more
research,
because
there
is
some
component
around
lcdc
that
belongs
in
the
land.
Use
chair,
guidebook
in
terms
of
a
training
in
terms
of
you
know,
hey,
be
aware
that
this
is
where
it
all
really
starts,
and
then
there's
probably
something
that
we
need
to
do
around.
How
do
we
interact
with
the
lcdc?
A
C
C
And
so
when
you
get
them,
you're
gonna
see
that
frequently
asked
questions
about
applications.
There's
a
ton
of
questions
there,
and
so
the
ask
is
going
to
be
for
you
to
go
through
and
say
yeah.
I
get
asked
this
question
a
lot
or
I
feel
like
this
one's
important
and
so
you'll
see
those
in
your
inbox
too.
C
C
F
All
you
well
hello,
everybody
good
to
see
you.
I
wanted
to
give
everybody
a
quick
update
because
there's
a
lot
of
new
information
coming
out
around
around
city
view
and,
as
can
be
expected
in
the
year
of
2020,
nothing
has
gone
according
as
has
gone
according
to
any
type
of
plan,
so
where
we're
at
is
for
a
variety
of
reasons
which
I
can
get
into.
F
We
had
to
make
the
decision
last
week
to
basically
go
live
on
we're
going
live
with
the
product
on
december
14th,
so
we're
a
little
less
than
a
month
away
from
a
go
live
scenario,
and
while
we
were
making
that
decisions,
we
had
come
to
the
nla
and
we
had
talked
about
getting
some
people
in
a
little
early,
just
to
kind
of
see
the
product
and
and
help
us.
You
know
design
training,
something
like
that.
F
That
is
just,
unfortunately,
not
an
option
that
we
have
right
now,
literally.
I
was
actually
out
last
week
for
a
family
emergency,
but
it
did.
We
made
the
decision
on
a
wednesday
that
we
were
in
a
position
to
move
ahead,
because
we
were
still
doing
the
final
configurations
and
testing
of
the
software.
We
announced
it
to
our
team
on
thursday
and
we
put
them
in
training
on
friday
and
they've
been
in
heavy
training
for
this
week
and
for
the
next
several
weeks.
F
So
this
is
moving
extremely
fast,
but
I
wanted
to
get
back
to
this
group
and
have
a
discussion
with
this
group
on.
What's
going
on,
we
are
going
to
be
providing
trainings
specifically
to
external
users
and
specifically
to
the
general
public
and
people
that
need
to
get
into
the
system
and
use
the
system
like
like
this
group
here
that
will
occur
during
the
weeks
of
november
30th
through
december,
7th
or
december
11th.
F
F
F
In
the
other
thing
I
will
say
is
that
we
had
to
make
some
critical
decisions
on
going
and
going
quickly
because
of
some
other
concerns
that
we
had
just
around
some
security
issues
that
we
have
some
of
our
current
software's.
We
had
one
of
the
software's
that
we
have
had
hasn't
happened
to
us
the
city
of
bend,
but
we've
had
some
some
issues
with
the
payment
processing
system
and
their
cyber
security
breaches
across
the
country.
F
F
I
will
work
with
michaela
and
I
can
come
back
to
this
group
as
well
as
as
much
as
and
as
often
as
you
need
me,
but
we
will
have
trains
that
will
basically
provide
this
group
and
just
the
general
public
if
they
want
to
get
in
and
see
the
see
projects
and
see
information
that
it's
easy
to
do.
So
I
will
say
that
the
new
system
is
much
more
intuitive.
It's
much
more
easy
to
work
within
our
old
system.
But
again
you
know
it's
not
going
to
be
intuitive.
F
F
We
can
probably
do
that
afterwards.
I
just
I
I
need
everyone
to
understand
that
we
are
under
a
very
tight
time
crunch
right
now
and
are
our
we
have
a
very
large
focus
on
making
sure
that
we
get
our
folks
trained
up.
We
provide
groups
trainings
to
our
external
users,
but
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
come
back
in
a
post.
Go
live
after
we
go,
live
on
the
14th
and
provide
further
information
of
this
group
and
trains.
A
F
We're
gonna
have
what
we're
gonna
have
probably
two
two
training,
two
to
three
trainings
available
during
that
time
period,
which
I
would
encourage.
All
of
you
know
the
interested
parties
in
the
nla
to
go
to
one
of
those
trainings
and
then
I'm
sorry
at
least
what
I
was
saying
was.
I
would
be
more
than
willing
to
come
back.
F
You
know
in
those
weeks,
following
or
even
after
the
after
the
first
of
the
year
to
come
back
and
give
a
more
in-depth
training
to
this
group,
and
I
can
bring
resources
from
our
city
view
team
to
the
nla
to
provide
a
more
detailed
training.
But
I
think
most
of
the
information
that
you're
going
to
need
to
get
to
will
be
in
that
main
training
for
the
general
public
on
how
to
get
in
navigate
the
software
and
get
to
the
important
information.
F
A
I
I
think
that
that
we
probably
will
want
to
have
some
kind
of
training
session
offered
to
the
land
use
chairs
in
particular,
but
I
also
don't
see
any
reason
why
the
land
use
chairs
and
anyone
else
wouldn't
want
to
go
to
any
of
those
other
meetings.
If
they're
going
to
be
open
to
the
general
public,
so
we
might
be
able
to
accomplish
quite
a
bit
by
just
making
sure
that
everybody
knows
that
they're
available
to
attend
those
meetings
beginning
on
november
30th.
E
F
So
one
I'm
going
to
send
some
information
around
my
staffs
and
michaela.
I
don't
know
if
you've
got
if
you've
got
that
notice.
Already
that
went
out
last
week
we
sent
out
just
you
know.
We
we
downloaded
over
10
000
emails
from
our
from
our
current
systems
and
did
a
big
email
blast.
Everybody
out
with
information.
E
Okay
and
then
I
thank
you-
and
I
had
a
second
question
since
that,
since
you
had
to
kind
of
rush
this
at
the
end,
what
kind
of
debugging
is
there
going
to
be?
I've
done
a
lot
of
software
development
and
once
it
actually
hits
the
lots
of
people
there's
going
to
be
issues
what's
going
to
be
the
debugging
process.
F
Well,
we've
got
we
already
know
that
we've
got
as
you
can
imagine
debbie
with
any
software
project,
and
this
just
you
know
this
one
covers
everything
that
our
department
does.
So
it's
building,
perm
engineering
permits
planning
applications,
code
enforcement,
licensing
how
we
collect
you
know
short-term
rental
taxes.
F
It's
quite
broad,
and
you
know
with
anything
that
we're
going
to
have.
There
are
little
things
are
going
to
pop
up
and
surprise
us,
and
we've
already
got
a
big
list
of
post-go
live
projects
that
we
have
to
deal
with,
as
you
can
imagine
anyway,
we
already
as
part
of
our
development
of
this
plan.
We
have
created
a
support
plan
that
involves
city
view,
resources,
which
is
the
software
vendor,
and
all
the
necessary
resources
within
our
depart
are
within
within
the
city
that
include
I.t,
and
you
know
all
the
support
mechanisms.
F
We
need
to
keep
this
thing
moving
as
we
go
through,
we
are
expecting.
We
are
expecting
things
to
occur.
That's
that's
the
reality
of
this,
but
the
team
has
done
a
really
significant
amount
of
testing
and
in
fact,
what
we've
been
working
on
over
the
past
month
is
we've
been
trying
to
figure
out
whether
or
not
we
can
go
is
just
those
final
debugs
to
make
sure
that
we
can
get
clarity
to
get
a
system
that
we
could
rely
on
out
there.
E
So
will
will
you
be
able
to
give
I'm
just
picturing?
If
I
have
neighbors
coming
to
me
and
they're
having
problems,
it
might
be
easier
if
the
land
use
chairs
field
those
questions
and
talk
to
your
support
people
instead
of
you
getting
a
million.
I
hope
it's,
not
a
million,
but
you
get
a
lot
of
emails.
Will
you
be
able
to
share
with
michaela
to
share
with
us
of
who
we
contact
if
there
are
debugging
issues,
yeah.
F
We're
gonna
have
a
we're:
gonna
have
a
triage
of
you,
know
basic
services,
so,
like
our
our
front
line
staff
at
the
permit
center
they're
gonna
be
able
to
handle
like
basic
navigation
things.
We
also
have
we've
created
some
short
videos
and
I
believe
one
of
them
is
focused
around
just
kind
of
I'm
the
public.
How
do
I
get
into
the
system
that
will
be
on
our
website
that
anybody
can
get
to
at
any
time
to
see
and
then
we'll
have
a
kind
of
a
help
desk
at
various
levels?
F
It's
still
going
to
continue
as
you
move
into
specific
projects.
I
know
that
columns
on
the
call
here
that
the
planner
assigned
to
that
project
is
still
kind
of
that
main
point
of
contact
that
you
will
have
if
you
have
questions
around
what's
going
on
with
the
project
or
how
to
get
feedback
in
and
and
the
planners
are
also
getting
trained
up
to
to
be
able
to
to
help
you
know,
just
as
they
do
now.
It's
just
going
to
be
in
a
new
system
with
those
with
the
public
comment
system
and
the
public.
F
A
F
That
is
correct.
We
will
not
be
getting
applications
and
colin
is
working
with
colin
is
working
with
his
team
now,
because
we
do
have
special
considerations
that
need
to
be
worked
out
with
planning
and
collins
working
that
with
everybody
right
now
on
how
we're
going
to
continue
to
process
land
use,
applications
that
are
in
the
public
comment
period
as
we
go
in
or
decision
needs
to
be
issued.
Those
those
capabilities
are
going
to
still
be
there.
F
It's
kind
of
we've
got
some
behind
the
scenes,
work
that
would
need
to
occur,
but
they
are
working
through
those
those
process
to
make
sure
that
public
comments
can
still
be
received,
and
we
can
still
move
from
the
normal
process
with
our
with
our
timelines.
During
that
what
we're
calling
that
the
dark
period
of
those
two
weeks.
A
F
At
least
I
apologize
e-plans
really
turns
to
read-only,
it's
still
going
to
be
there,
but
it
turns
into
a
read-only
type
environment.
So
you'll
still
be
able
to
get
into
e
plans
and
see
information.
It's
a
lot
of
it
is
behind
the
scenes,
as
you
saw
colin
popped
on
his
camera.
He
he's
been
working
through
this
with
his
team
to
try
to
figure
out
the
nuances
of
how
this
is
going
to
work,
but
you'll
still
be
able
to
all
the
basic
processes
of
notifications
of
requirements.
F
K
Yeah
we
had
a
meeting
a
week
ago
with
the
implementation
team
and
and
going
into
it.
I
had
a
lot
of
concerns
about
how
we
were
going
to
continue
to
do
our
job
and
planning,
because
we
have
the
state
mandated
timelines
that
you're
aware
of,
and
we
can't
like
physically
tell
people,
they
can't
submit
an
application
for
a
certain
period
of
time,
so
the
the
team
granted
us
a
special
dispensation,
so
planning
can
have
uploading
rights
during
during
this
period.
K
We
with
e-plans
and
he
plans,
will
still
be
visible
from
what
I
understand
to
the
outside
world,
we're
going
to
discourage
developers
from
submitting
the
applications
right
before
we
go
dark,
but
if
they
do,
we
can
still
process
them
and
upload
them.
E-Plans
is
going
to
be
a
little
clunky
on
our
end
on
what
we're
seeing,
because
the
workflows
aren't
going
to
work
for
us,
but
that's
what
we
see
on
our
side.
K
What
the
public
sees
on
your
side
should
still
be
the
same,
so
we'll
be
able
to
if
we
get
public
comments,
we'll
be
able
to
upload
them,
make
them
available
to
anybody.
If
you
want
to
comment,
your
comments
can
go
to
the
planner
and
then
they'll
get
uploaded,
so
we
think
it's
going
to
be
business
as
usual.
We're
just
hoping
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
slower
than
usual
to
let
us,
through
this
three
week
period.
F
I
just
don't
want
you
to
see
the
see
things
come
out
that
say:
hey
the
permit
center
is
going
to
have
you
know,
limited
operations
and
we're
not
accepting
and
we're
processing
applications.
During
that
time
there
that's
really
based
around
the
building,
and
we
also
want
to
get
to
the
development
community,
saying
we're
going
to
have
limited
staff
availability
during
this
time.
So
don't
expect
a
lot
of
productivity
on
reviews,
because
we
need
to
be
focused
on
this
transition.
A
K
E
I
had
a
questions
again.
This
is
debbie
again
so
december.
12Th
and
13th
sounds
like
you're
doing
a
weekend.
Migration
then
does
that
mean
that
everything
will
be
down,
because
you
said
that
the
new
system
doesn't
go
live
till
the
14th
and
e
plans
will
basically
be
read
only
through
the
11th.
So
is
that
is
that
what
we
can
anticipate
is
that
weekend
everything
will
be
down.
F
F
H
F
F
C
G
Ross
calling
on
that
on
that
city
view
page,
you
have
a
nice
table
that
shows
what
happens
in
those
blocked
out
periods
of
time.
I
was
thinking
it's
pretty
straightforward,
probably
to
put
in
november
30
to
12
11
training,
just
so
the
people
that
go
there
can
kind
of
save
the
date
block
it
out
and
then
they'll
get
the
specific
dates
and
times
when
you
have
them
available,
but
it
seems
that
at
least
people
could
start
getting
that
time
frame,
blocked
out,
particularly
land
use
chairs,
for
what
it's
worth.
F
Yeah,
you
can
definitely
do
that,
and
also
just
so
you're
aware.
We
are
now
we're
currently
working
through
those
external
training
schedules
and
we
will
be
able
to
announce
those
and
get
those
out
next
week
of
when
those
specific
trainings
are
going
to
occur
during
that
during
that
two-week
period,
and
we
cannot
and
get
those
on
their
calendars
with
a
little
bit
more
specificity
than
just
an
open.
Two
weeks.
C
F
Oh
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
I'll
just
close
with
this
one
thing
and
two
we
just
asked
for
your
as
we're
asking
everybody
for
their
grace
and
patience
as
we
go
through
this
and
just
as
you
lisa,
as
you
alluded
to
we're
we're
already
in
the
busiest
you
know,
we're
we're
a
very
busy
time
for
just
processing
applications
and
receiving
applications.
A
C
C
A
I
C
I
K
K
C
K
K
I
would
also
say
that
subdivisions
are
are
commonly
and
because
subdivision
subdivisions
occur
in
the
residential
districts,
where
a
site
plan
review
is
more
of
a
commercial
or
multi-family
type
of
an
application.
Then
I
would
also
put
a
conditional
use
permits.
Those
generally
get
a
lot
of
interest
as
well,
because,
for
example,
like
a
cell
tower
generally
requires
a
conditional
use
from
that.
So
I
think
those
would
probably
be
the
three
biggest
ones.
I
would
focus
on.
C
D
C
J
Yeah
I'm
happy
to
I
mean
I
think
I
cited
one
example
in
the
margin
note,
and
I
think
there
was
maybe
another
one
later
and
yeah
I
just.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
inadvertently
creating
things
that
look
like
requirements
that
are
not
100
consistent
with
the
actual
requirements
that
are
in
the
code.
C
G
I'm
wondering
if,
if
we
can
address
this
somehow
with
maybe
an
intro
that
talks
about
best
practices
so
that
we
don't
have
to
go
through
and
reword
every
single
thing
that
we
have,
as
opposed
to
saying
where
maybe
we
say
where
possible,
or
these
these
are
considered
best
practices
rather
than
otherwise.
I
see
us
potentially
having
to
change
this
document.
I
Mike
I
looked
at
the
other
two
applications
that
colin
referred
to
the
land
division
in
cup.
It
has
the
same
paragraph.
So
if
we
change
it
here,
then
it's
just
a
cut
and
paste
job
yeah.
I
assume
it's
ian.
Who
made
the
comments
to
the
left
here
and
everything's
highlighted.
I
sent
you
a
graphic
to
try
to
show
a
flowchart
how
or
this
stuff
came
from,
because
there
are
four
or
five
things
that
we
added
that
weren't
in
the
original
paragraph
that
came
from
the
surveys
and
that's
something
that
I
think
ian
was
curious.
I
C
I
A
J
A
Well,
it's
not
even
it's
not
even
that.
It's
things
that
we
would
like
to
see.
You
do
as
much
as
you
know,
we're
really
trying
to
help
the
developers
in
this
process
we're
really
trying
to
help
these
meetings
be
more
effective
and
to
reduce
the
number
of
questions
reduce
the
amount
of
follow-up,
because
that's
going
to
reduce
the
amount
of
workload
on
everybody's
plate.
H
D
C
I
C
C
Yeah,
so
there
will
be
some
consistency
in
design
now,
ian
and
colin.
You
didn't
comment
on
this
piece
of
it,
but
I
was
just
curious
if
we
had
the
okay
to
combine
the
two
compliance
forms.
That
was
a
suggestion
that
aaron
hinson
had
made
and
it's
the
verification
of
compliance
with
4.1
in
the
verification
of
a
neighborhood
public
meeting.
K
K
I
C
Complete
flip
steps
three
and
four.
This
was
a
bigger
one.
This
the
steps
that
you
had
outlined
for
this
sample
neighborhood
notice,
jacob,
has
offered
to
do
a
kind
of
a
mini
flow
chart
so
that
it's
more
visual,
and
so,
if,
if
you
have
opposition
to
that,
let
me
know
instead
of
using
the
step
one
step,
two
it'll
be
bubbles.
I
It's
the
concept
that
mattered,
not
necessarily
the
graphics
or
the
final
look
sure
the
one
I
would
raise
my
hand
about
is
send
out
a
mailer
to
the
public
it'd
be
kind
of
nice
if
it's
just
one
piece
of
paper,
double-sided,
and
so
the
first
was
the
form
we
just
looked
at.
The
second
page
is
this
which
this
doesn't
change
per
application.
This
is
kind
of
a
that's
part
of
something.
That's
it's
done
once
and
it's
there.
The
applicant
fills
out
the
first
page
right.
D
D
C
C
C
A
C
C
I
Will
you
bring
those
in
or
show
them
the
developer
right?
Can
we
at
least
get
some
at
least
a
first
pass
on
the
two
outlines,
an
outline
for
what's
being
done
for
the
land
use,
chair,
guide
and
then
the
website
for
the
citizens,
so
they
can
see
at
least
the
beginnings
of
what
the
other
two
pieces
of
the
puzzle.
I
C
I
E
C
E
C
C
E
C
C
And
so
this
one
out
with
your
packets
and
I'll,
let
one
of
you
be
the
guide
here
if
you
want
to
talk
through
the
the
table
of
contents
and
then
so
just
so,
the
rest
of
you
know
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
is
get
on
the
same
page
about
what
should
be
included
in
this
packet.
So
this
is
the
very
high
level,
as
I
call
it
table
of
contents.
I
I
I
took
everything
that
sue
sullivan
had
put
together
for
the
original
developer
packet,
and
I
took
lisa's
first
draft
of
the
chair,
so
I
have
all
these
pieces
in
front,
so
the
idea
is
which
of
these
resources
and
tools
needed
to
go
in
the
land
you
share
guide
and
which
could
then
be
incorporated
into
a
website
for
the
citizen.
So
what
you're
looking
at
is
the
middle
piece
here
these.
H
E
D
H
I
I'll
link
up
michaela
a
lot
to
do.
You
know
that's
a
lot
of
information.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
very
hard
for
us
to
go,
read
it
line
by
line
and
start
looking.
If
people
haven't
looked
at
this
ahead
of
time
and
are
ready
to
give
specific
responses
to
what
they
thought
needed
to
be
changed
or
added.
So,
okay,
yeah.
To
be
frank
with
you,
it's
there,
it's
a
piece.
Do
your
homework
bottom
line,
yeah.
A
So,
additionally,
I
think
I
only
stumbled
on
the
planning
commission
guidelines
this
last
week
I
hadn't
had
a
chance
to
review
those
previously
and
now
that
I've
seen
those
I
feel
like
there
is
a
lot
of
crossover
between
the
planning,
commission,
guidebook
versus
the
land
use.
Chair,
guidebook
and
I
I
feel
like
I
want
to
spend
a
little
bit
more
time
figuring
out
what
could
be
incorporated
in
this
guide,
based
on
what
has
already
been
written.
H
I
C
E
That
sounds
good
and
then
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
me
because
it
sounds
like
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
documents.
I'm
going
to
be
calling
a
meeting
of
the
networking
group
towards
the
end
of
this
month.
I
that's
a
lot
of
stuff.
I
think
it
would
help
if
I
knew
what's
the
most
important
thing
that
you
want
feedback
from,
and
I
will
put
that
as
an
agenda
item
on
that
on
that
for
that
meeting.
It
sounds
like
this,
but
I
might
be
wrong.
A
Yeah
debbie.
I
think
this
is
the
the
most
important
and
then
in
terms
of
what
I
just
mentioned
with
the
planning
commission,
I'm
gonna
trade,
hats
and
I'll
put
my
century
west
neighborhood
association,
land
use,
chair
hat
on
as
I
review
the
planning
commission
documents,
and
I
will
submit
comments
in
that
direction,
for
this
particular
document
does
that.
E
Make
sense
yeah
and
I'm
glad,
because
I
that
was
one
thing-
that
I
noticed
we
didn't
even
talk
about
the
planning
commission
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
included.
A
lot
of
land
use
chairs,
don't
get
involved
with
the
planning
commission
and
it's
more
than
the
city
council.
So
I'm
glad
you're
going
to
bring
that
in
lisa.
A
Thank
you,
and
just
as
a
side
note,
everybody
should
know
that
there
is
an
open
planning,
commission
seat
and
debbie.
That
would
be
another
thing
to
push
out
with
that
land
use
working
group.
We
should
be
promoting
that.
I
don't
know
that
the
city
has
pushed
it
out
yet,
but
that
was
part
of
the
planning
commission
meeting
on
monday
night.
E
K
Okay,
this
is
colin.
It
closes
on
the
30th
of
this
month
november
with
the
anticipation
that
the
mayor
will
appoint
at
the
I
think,
it's
the
december
16th
council
meeting
and
there
should
be
an
announcement
on
the
city,
manager's
website,
the
planning
commission
webpage
and
if
you
can't
find
it
or
have
more
questions.
Please
contact
me.
C
E
H
C
C
A
C
K
K
So
for
you
know,
first
off,
I
can't
comment
on
what
the
developers
see
on
their
side
as
far
as
putting
their
projects
together,
because
we
really
don't
see
them
until
they
hit.
You
know
our
virtual
front
counter,
but
what
I
do
see
is
really
if,
if
a
developer
holds
the
neighborhood
public
meeting,
they
should
do
it
before
they
submit
their
application.
So
if
they
do
it
correctly,
then
it
really
doesn't
have
any
impact
on
the
city's
processing
time.
But
what
I'm.
A
K
And
they
do
it
correctly
because
that
would
have
all
been
taken.
It's
all
been
taken
care
of,
because
this
is
an
item
that
we
look
at
as
the
city.
As
part
of
our
completeness
check,
you
know:
do
you
have
a
traffic
study?
Do
you
have
a
stormwater
study?
Did
you
do
your
neighborhood
meeting
so
if
they've
done
it
previous
to
submitting
and
they've
done
it
correctly,
it
doesn't
affect
the
city's
timelines,
I'm
not
speaking
for
the
for
the
development
community
on
their
timelines
outside
of
what
we
process.
K
Then
then,
that's
when
we
say
okay
time
out,
you
need
to
stop.
Go
back.
Do
your
do
your
public
meeting
again
or
do
it
right
and
then
submit
all
of
the
information
documentation
that
you
did
it
correctly
back
of
the
city
and
then
and
then
we'll
move
you
out
of
completeness
check
so
right
now
under
today's
code,
if
we
did
that
it's
going
to
be
at
least
15
days,
because
it's
going
to
be
longer
because
it
takes
some
time
to
put
the
notice
together
and
send
it
out
et
cetera.
K
So
and
while
that's
happening
the
project's
just
sitting
with
the
city,
not
moving
anywhere
so
where
that
would
go
from,
you
know
15
or
20
days
or,
however,
you
know
how
long
it
takes
the
applicant
to
do
that.
It
would
add
an
additional
number
what
six
days
to
go
to
21
days,
so
that
that's
where
I
would
see
an
impact
on
actual
city
processing
time.
It
would
sit
with
the
city
for
that
additional
time.
K
That's
when
I
would
say:
well
you
either
didn't
do
your
your
neighborhood
meeting
or
you
did
it
wrong,
so
I
can
do
it
again
and
and
that's
not
going
to
impact
the
city,
because
it's
once
we've
said
it's
incomplete
the
120
day
review
period
doesn't
start,
it
doesn't
start
until
they
make
the
application
complete
and
redeem
it
as
complete.
So
the
120
wouldn't
start
until
they've,
either
perfected
their
neighborhood
meeting
or
held
the
neighborhood
meeting.
I
I
The
one
thing
they
could
do
real
early
in
the
beginning
is
have
that
meeting
find
out
how
the
neighborhood
feels
polish
is
a
perfect
example.
They
do
that
at
the
beginning
of
that
process,
so
when
they
get
their
application
ready
to
go,
they've
done
their
homework
they've
had
their
meeting
they've
tried
to
resolve
issues.
What
colin
is
talking
about
is
the
exception.
The
guy
who
doesn't
know
what
he's
doing
forgot
to
do
that
got
his
application
in
and
we're
all
sitting
around
saying,
well,
you're,
not
complete,
because
you
forgot
to
do
something.
A
Well,
I
think
we've
tried
that
bar
graph
and
I
don't
know
that
people
are
really
understanding
it
or
they're,
not
looking
at
it
or
maybe
they
have
a
different
perception,
so
I'm
kind
of
coming
back
to
michaela.
I
have
no
issue
having
this
meeting
on
monday.
You
know
it's
another
hour
and
a
half
two
hours
in
looks
like
it's
a
two-hour
meeting
that's
been
scheduled,
but
I'm
I'm
still
struggling
or
I'm
still
grasping
it.
What
new
information
are
we
expecting
to
hear
or
do
we
have
any
indication
on
there's?
There's
new
information.
K
I
I
can
speak
to
that.
You
know
we
had
been
hearing
that
there
was
still
concern
from
the
development
community,
the
city
staff
weren't
involved
in
that
meeting
that
you
had
with
the
with
the
developers
and
after
that
we
it
was
our
understanding
that
there
were
still
unanswered
or
unresolved
concerns
from
the
development
community.
So
at
least
I
will
say
that
this
meeting
will
be
different
in
that
there
will
be
the
development
representatives,
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance
representatives
and
staff
in
there
as
well.
K
A
Sure
I'd
like
to
do
that,
but
I
also
just
want
to
make
another
comment
on
this
developer
meeting.
So
I
feel,
like
we've,
spent
an
awful
lot
of
time
on
this
topic.
I
feel
like
we
have
more
than
made
accommodations
to
listening.
I
have
not
had
any
direct
correspondence
from
any
other
of
the
developers
other
than
what
they've
submitted
previously
and
outside
of
the
polish
meeting,
and
so
for
anybody
that
is
listening
to
this
presentation.
A
If
you
have
additional
information
that
can
help
us
understand
why
there
is
such
reticence
for
the
extensions
when
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
we're
trying
to
increase
the
acceptance
rate
of
these
projects
by
citizens
and
we're
also
trying
to
give
citizens
the
opportunity
to
participate.
I
just
want
to
invite
any
comments
to
be
sent
to
the
land
use
working
group
care
of
michaela,
because
I
I
feel
like
we're,
still
missing
something
so
enter
in
terms
of
the
upcoming
important
dates.
Lisa.
E
C
I
A
Great,
thank
you
in
terms
of
juniper
ridge,
so
we've
been
hearing
an
awful
lot
about
juniper
ridge.
Over
the
last
couple
of
weeks
we
had
the
planning
commission
meeting
this
last
monday
to
talk
about
plan
talk
about
juniper
ridge.
It
was
a
very
well
done
presentation,
michaela
hans-
and
I
spoke
this
morning
for
our
planning
for
the
nla
meeting
in
december,
and
we
all
agreed
that
having
matt
do
a
presentation
on
juniper
ridge
to
the
nla.
A
C
I
think
I
saw
mike
on
the
call
this
week,
but
we
were
also
talking
about
the
southeast
area
plan,
and
so
that's
going
to
be
coming
to
planning
commissioning
council
early
next
year
as
well
so
just
to
have
on
your
radar
and
the
juniper
ridge
and
nla
recommendations
are
the
upcoming
ones.
Southeast
area
plan
will
follow
shortly
after.
A
A
This
is
something
that
is
hosted
by
cascades
academy
in
bethlehem
inn.
It
looks
like
it's
a
one
hour
online
event
and
if
you
go
to
cascadesacademy.org
community
education
series,
you
can
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
that
event,
but
I
think
that
might
be
something
that
could
help
us
better
understand.
Some
of
the
the
decisions
that
we're
trying
to
make
around
juniper
ridge.