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B
A
A
Any
questions
about
the
process
we're
going
to
have
we're
going
to
have
a
couple
presentations,
one
or
two
presentations
today
to
give
us
some
background
information
and
then
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
maybe
start
with
jim's
questions.
He
has
them
nicely
written
out.
So
I
want
to
go
through
to
make
sure
that
those
are
addressed,
and
then
we
can
go
round
robin
through
the
others
through
the
rest
of
us,
so
that
we
can
get
our
questions
answered.
C
A
C
Address
that
no,
I
think
we
need
to
make
a
statement
to
council
and
the
planning
commission
that
this
is
not
acceptable.
We
need
time
to
think
we
need
time
to
ask
questions.
We
need
time
to
react
to
to
our
constituency
and
not
just
have
these
these
unscheduled
kinds
of
meetings
to
get
caught
up
on
something
that
it
should
have
been
taken
care
of
weeks
ago.
A
C
A
D
Great,
so
we
have
paulina
and
lynn
here
today
to
walk
us
through
sb
458
and
the
process
that
got
us
to
where
we're
at
right
now,
as
well
as
what
we
maybe
can
and
cannot
control
with
this
bill.
So
hopefully
we
can
get
some
clarity
on
what's
actually
happening
and
answer
some
of
those
questions
you
have
so
with
that
I
get.
We
can
hand
it
over
to
pauline
when
you're
ready
summer.
A
F
E
Okay,
I
do
it
wow
that
never
happens
for
me.
So
that's
good,
so
we
are
here
to
just
go
over
senate
bill
458
and
what
it
is
requiring
cities
to
do,
and
this
is
coming
again
from
the
state
down
similar
to
house
bill
2001,
except,
I
would
say,
the
difference
between
senate
bill,
458
and
house
bill
2001.
Is
you
got
to
make
some
choices
with
house
bill
2001.
senate
bill?
458
is
very
specific
on
what
you
can
and
can't
do
as
a
city
for
this
type
of
bill.
E
So
first
I
just
want
to
highlight,
as
we
always
do,
how
it
is
consistent
with
our
council
goals.
Senate
bill
458
provides
homeownership
opportunities
which,
with
a
council
goal
to
have
places
for
people
who
live
and
work
in
bend
that
they
can
afford,
and
an
action
at
the
very
bottom
talks
about
providing
opportunities
for
first-time
home
ownership
and
also
a
strategy
that
removes
barriers
and
increases
the
supply
of
housing,
so
senate
bill
458,
fortunately,
is
in
line
with
the
city
council
goals.
E
House,
bill
2001
or
senate
bill
200
2000
centerville
458,
so,
as
you
may
recall,
with
house
bill
2001
that
was
to
allow
the
middle
housing
in
all
the
residential
districts.
So
we're
talking
about
duplexes,
triplex's,
quad,
plexes,
townhomes
and
cottage
clusters
house
bill
2001,
really
provided
new
opportunities
for
rental
rental
opportunities,
senate
bill
458
takes
house
bill
2001
a
little
bit
further
and
instead
of
rental
opportunities,
it
looks
at
providing
home
ownership
opportunities
for
the
middle
housing,
so
really
how
senate
bill
458
is
looking
at
ownership.
E
E
E
So
we
look
at
the
parent
site
for
the
middle
housing
and
we
make
sure
that
the
triplex
and
it
will
always
be
a
triplex-
is
in
compliance
with
then
development
code.
So
we're
going
to
look
at
the
parameter
setbacks
for
the
triplex,
we're
going
to
look
at
the
parking
requirements
for
the
triplex,
we're
going
to
look
at
the
design
standards
for
our
tripods
when
we
look
at
the
land
division.
All
we're
looking
at
is
some
very
limited
criteria
and
I'll
go
into
detail
with
what
that
is
in
a
little
bit
so
again.
E
What
senate
bill
458
does
not
do
it
does
not
authorize
any
new
uses
or
structures.
It
only
applies
to
the
middle
housing
that
was
approved
through
house
bill
2001,
which
is
already
in
the
bend
development
code.
So
I'm
not
looking
at
proposing
any
new
uses.
With
this
you're
going
to
drive
down
the
street
you're
going
to
see
a
triplex
you're
not
going
to
know
whether
or
not
it
is
for
rental
or
home
ownership,
I
see
a
hand
with
dave,
hi
dave.
C
E
Or
it
could
be
a
member
with
house
bill
2001,
we
allow
triplexes
to
be
detached
units
as
well
as
long
as
they're
six
feet
apart,
and
that
was
before
even
household
2001..
We
always
for
many
years,
have
allowed
duplexes
and
triplexes
to
be
detached
and
we
continued
that
with
the
hospital
2001
amendments.
Okay,
thanks,
good
question,
so
the
second
thing
that
center
bill
458
does
not
do
it
does
not
look
at
parking
requirements
does
not
look
at
the
height
of
the
structure.
E
So
in
the
draft
you'll
notice
that
there's
two
types
of
land
divisions
being
proposed,
one
is
an
expedited
land
division,
that's
been
in
the
ors
for
forever
and
it's
always
been
a
process
that
a
applicant
can
choose
to
go
through
today.
We,
I
don't
know
that
we've
ever
had
anybody
actually
go
through
this
type
of
land
division
process
because
of
the
requirements
for
an
expedited
land
division.
E
I'm
an
expedited
land
division,
I
suppose
could
include
in
adu
the
middle
housing
land
division
cannot
so
expedite.
Land
division
is
one
process
with
its
own
requirements
and
then
senate
bill
458
creates
this
middle
housing
land
division
in
the
column
on
the
right
in
order
to
apply
for
a
middle
housing
land
division
you
have
to
have,
as
we
have
already
discussed,
middle
housing,
either
proposed
or
developed.
So
the
duplexes
triplex's
quads
or
cottage
clusters,
and
we
would
look
at
a
middle
housing.
C
E
G
E
Yeah
just
give
me
one
second,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
really
clear
that
in
the
bend
development
code,
what
it's
being
proposed
is
two
different
types
of
land
divisions.
One
that's
been
around
forever
and
we're
just
putting
it
in
the
code,
but
someone
could
have
always
applied
for
it.
Just
never
had
because
of
this
deed
restriction.
Probably
and
number
two
is
the
middle
housing
land
division.
Both
of
them
follow
the
expedited
land,
division,
application
process
and
timelines
which
I'll
go
through,
but
they
are
different
applicabilities.
E
G
G
Would
it
be
very
clear
that
deed
restrictions
are
intended
in
this
case,
to
make
it
more
challenging
to
sell
your
house
for
the
full
value
that
you
could?
That
is
absolutely
the
point
of
this.
The
whole
idea
is
restricting
affordability
to
people
who
can
actually
afford
it,
and
so
yes,
if
the
folks,
the
mortgage
brokers
are
in
town,
are
saying
it's
going
to
make
your
your
life
more
difficult,
you're
right,
it's
going
to
make
their
life
more
difficult,
they're
going
to
have
to
work
harder
to
figure
out
how
to
deal
with
this
type
of
property.
G
I
will
tell
you
this
is
how
we
create
affordable
housing
in
bend,
not
this
code
but
deed
restrictions.
Are
it,
and
many
of
you
probably
already
have
deed
restrictions
recorded
on
your
properties
through
the
form
of
ccnr's
covenants
code
in
restrictions?
That's
what
those
are
so
most
of
the
time
when
we're
creating
affordable
housing
in
bend.
G
We
are
recording
on
the
title,
a
deed
restriction
in
the
form
of
a
covenant
that
says
this
property
is
to
be
sold
or
rented
only
to
a
person,
meaning
this
characteristic,
which
is
typically
income
for
this
term
of
years,
and
it
is
absolutely
100
intended
to
make
it
more
challenging
for
that
person
to
then
go
forth
and
charge
too
much
for
their
house
because
they
have
agreed
to
it.
What's
interesting
about
deed
restrictions
is
that
this
is
not
something
that
the
city
can
just
go
forth
and
place
on
properties.
G
This
is
actually
a
contract
that
we
enter
into,
or
I
shouldn't
say,
contract
it's
it's
comparable
to
a
contract
that
we
enter
into
where
somebody
is
receiving
a
benefit
in
order
for
und,
in
order
like
in
trade
for
undertaking
a
deed
restriction
like
this.
So
while
I
would
love
on
some
level
in
a
theoretical
sense
to
say,
half
of
bend
is
now
affordable
and
I
deem
it
so.
The
city
does
not
have
that
power.
G
So
if
you
as
individual
property
owners,
came
to
me
and
said,
I
really
want
to
do
something
for
affordable
housing
in
this
town.
What
can
I
do?
One
of
the
options
would
be
sell
your
house
for
less
than
it's
worth
and
that's
basically
exactly
what
we
are
asking
folks
to
do
here
and
that's
how
we
maintain
affordability.
G
The
folks
who
work
with
them
are
very
aware
of
what
they're
getting
into
this
is
not
some
sort
of
trickery
where
suddenly
people
can't
sell
their
house
for
everything
that
they
could,
otherwise
they
are
agreeing
to
buy
a
lower
cost
home
in
exchange
for
being
able
to
sell
it
for
less
than
what
it
could
be
sold
for.
Otherwise,
when
they're
ready
to
move
on
and
the
benefit
for.
That
is
that
then,
the
next
person
is
also
buying
an
affordable
home,
but
in
this
market,
with
the
way
that
incomes
and
home
prices
are
rising.
G
It
is
almost
certain
that
those
folks
graduating
from
that
program
and
selling
their
homes
are
still
taking
a
considerable
amount
of
equity
with
them.
So
this
is
not
prohibiting
them
from
moving
on
in
their
lives.
That's
actually
exactly
the
goal,
but
it
is
prohibiting
this
home
which
may
be
sold
for
250
at
one
point
from
going
for
800
000
next
time,
because
we
all
know
that
that
is
not
always
in
the
public
interest.
G
In
this
particular
code
again
remember:
there
are
ways
to
do
land
divisions
that
don't
involve
deed
restrictions
and
that's
how
the
majority
of
development
in
bend
does
it.
They
don't
want
to
undertake
this.
It
takes
work,
it
takes
compliance.
It
takes
opening
your
books
up
and
not
everybody's
into
that,
but
if
folks
want
an
expedited
process,
this
is
one
way
of
getting
there.
G
B
B
B
You
know
if
the
house
prices
go
up,
say
10
15
a
year
and
the
ami
income
level
goes
up.
Three
then
purchasers
are
basically
agreeing
that
they're
gonna
only
get
three
percent
a
year,
and
so
it's
gonna
take
several
years
for
them
to
break
even,
and
so
one
of
the
concerns
I
have
is
that's
going
to
play
into
their
their
economics.
You
know:
do
we
invest
whatever
it's
going
to
take
like
a
down
payment
for
this
property?
B
Knowing
we
can't
make
a
lot
of
money
on
it
or
would
you
want
to
pursue
another
alternative,
maybe
join
with
somebody
else
and
purchase.
You
know
a
regular
price
house
with
two
or
three
people,
and
so
I
think
that's
going
to
go
into
their
calculus
and
I'm
very
concerned
that
that's
going
to
be
a
real
damper
on
things,
and
the
second
thing
that
I
raised-
and
I
think
lisa
raised
as
well-
is
the
mortgage
companies.
B
G
B
Yeah
so
there's
a
couple
of
problems
that
could
happen.
Number
one
purchasers
could
find
it
extremely
hard
to
get
mortgages
and
they
may
have
to
pay
a
lot
more
down
payment
or
do
an
awful.
You
know
much
higher
interest
rate
in
order
for
to
entice
the
mortgage
company
to
do
it
and
then
another
problem
is
downstream.
B
The
mortgage
companies
may
have
a
little
bit
of
experience
with
you,
know
foreclosing,
and
they
may
lose
a
lot
of
money
because
they
can't
sell
it
either
unless
somebody's
into
you
know
only
for
certain
rates
for
certain
people-
and
you
know
so,
five
years
down
the
stream,
they
may
decide
hey.
No
more
of
this,
in
which
case
purchasers
have
a
property.
They
can't
sell
and.
H
B
A
E
G
Oh,
yes,
please
all
right,
so
yeah
great
questions,
and
so
I
think
you're
right
if
you
go
to
a
traditional
mortgage
agency,
especially
somebody
like
quicken
that
frankly
is
sort
of
a
high
producer,
low
impact
type
of
a
firm
they're
going
to
hate
this.
I
agree
with
you
100
and
guess
what
I've
had
affordable
homes
that
people
have
attempted
to
to
refi
through
quicken
quicken
has
not
pulled
title
reports.
These
have
not
come
up
and
that
is
technically
throwing
them
out
of
compliance
and
that
really
puts
the
borrower
in
a
tough
place.
G
So
for
the
folks
on
this
call,
I
will
strongly
encourage
you
to
know
your
mortgage
lender
personally
and
do
your
work
and
find
the
right
folks,
because
you
can
very
easily
get
taken
advantage
of
out
on
the
market,
and
I
know
I
saw
lisa
shaking
her
head.
I
think
lisa
you're,
a
realtor,
so
you've
probably
unfortunately
seen
some
of
that
a
little
bit
too.
These
are
intended
to
slow
down
the
process
and
there
is
also
a
complete
sub
market
of
folks
who
deal
in
exactly
this.
G
So
if
you
go
to
joe
smith,
who's
on
the
street
who's,
you
know
written
a
couple
loans
in
his
lifetime
or
has
never
dealt
with
affordable
housing
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
This
is
a
whole
new
world
and
it
does
involve
a
very
technical
set
of
skills.
It's
a
little
bit
different.
You
can't
just
run
them
through
and
do
four
loans
a
day
like
you
might
in
a
different
shop.
That
is
exactly
the
purpose.
G
However,
I
will
tell
you
that
habitat,
for
instance,
which
uses
exactly
this
type
of
dude
restriction
and
shared
equity
on
the
tail
end
core
community
land
trust.
Those
are
our
two
biggest
homeownership
developers
locally,
though
also
interestingly,
neighbor
impact
and
housing
works.
Our
regional
housing
authority
have
an
llc
where
they
do
land
trust
like
this,
and
so
that's
where
you
know
when
we
talk
about
homeownership
units
in
northwest
crossing.
G
That's
what
we're
talking
about
is
land
trust
units,
just
like
this,
with
deep
restrictions
and
sales
of
that
property
that
are
subject
to
exactly
these
parameters,
and
it
is
an
entirely
specialty
industry.
I
can
tell
you,
there's
only
a
handful
of
mortgage
lenders
in
town
who
do
this,
but
they
do
it
very,
very
well,
there's
also
folks,
anyone
who's
qualified
to
originate
the
state
bond
loans
which
are
first-time
homeownership
loans,
typically
at
a
reduced
interest
rate,
and
that
is
a
state-sponsored
program
using
certain
proceeds
that
they
have
are
very
familiar
with
this.
G
And
so
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
embedded
in
traditional
financing
institution
that
do
know
how
to
use
this,
and
you
might
not
know,
as
somebody
who
never
has
had
to
do
it.
But
it
is
an
intentional
decision
by
the
buyer
to
go
into
one
of
these
properties
and
the
reason
that
they
are
doing.
That
is
because
traditionally,
these
are
the
only
properties
that
are
available
for
those
folks
on
the
market.
G
So
what
we're
talking
about
this
year
is
homes
being
sold
in
bend
that
are
traditional,
three
and
two
type
homes,
sometimes
townhomes,
sometimes
cottages,
sometimes
just
single
family
homes
that
are
selling
between
350
and
450,
which
in
this
market
right
now,
is
insanely
below
value.
At
times,
in
the
last
five
years,
I've
sold
homes
at
175.
G
In
northwest
crossing
that's
what
deed
restrictions
do
they
are
a
powerful
tool
to
ensure
that
home
remains
affordable
for
the
duration,
and
the
number
of
folks
who
are
interested
in
participating
in
those
programs
is
astronomical.
Habitat
last
I
heard
was
having
50
people
per
home
applying.
So
that's
the
kind
of
demand
that
is
happening,
and
I
can
verify
that
number
because
it's
been
a
while,
since
I've
asked
them
that
number,
but
that
is
not
an
uncommon
number
to
have.
So
there
is
a
lot
of
demand.
G
In
addition,
in
most
programs
that
use
deed
restrictions,
this
one
is
a
little
bit
different,
but
in
most
programs
they
use
d
restrictions,
which
is
what
you're
talking
about
really
reduced
equity.
They
are
required
to
take
home
ownership
education,
sometimes
it's
a
minimum
per
hud
industry
standards
of
eight
hours
of
education
and
you're.
Talking
about
exactly
what
you're
agreeing
to
what
are
the
ccnrs
and
who
controls
that?
What
does
zoning
mean?
How
do
I
read
this
loan
document?
G
You
know
the
stack
of
documents
that
I'm
going
to
sign
before
I
get
to
the
title
company
and
I'm
signing
for
my
home.
All
of
that
education
that
goes
into
it
we
bring
in
realtors
we
bring
in
others
lenders
to
talk
through
how
to
know
that
you
are
identifying
a
safe
loan
that
is
healthy
for
you
and
how
to
not
get
talked
into
too
much.
G
So
that
is
true
with
affordable
housing.
Generally,
that's
one
of
the
safest
landing
products
that
you
can
come
up
with
and
we
have
homes
like
this
all
over
town,
we've,
we've
done
120
ami
homes
before
we've
also
done
80
and
60
ami
homes
before
and
they're
really
scattered
in
just
about
every
neighborhood
in
bend
right
now.
G
So
that's
really,
I
think
what
I
had
to
say.
I
hope
that
I
answered
questions
but
again,
if
there
are
more,
I'm
happy
to
answer
them
now
or
at
the
end,
but
it
is
a
very
intentional
thing.
I
think
what
what
may
help
you
is
maybe
from
a
sort
of
process
standpoint
when
folks
come
to
me
and
say
I'd
like
to
do
this
xyz
program
and
we're
going
to
keep
it
affordable.
My
first
question,
for
you
is
what
happens
when
that
person
wants
to
sell?
G
What's
it
what's
your
second
sale,
look
like
what
happens
when
that
first
buyer
wants
to
sell
and
if
they
don't
have
a
plan,
then
I'm
not
undertaking
any
agreements
with
them
until
they
do
because,
ultimately
they
have
to
and
it's
the
city
staff,
don't
have
the
capacity
to
go
forth
and
qualify
people.
But
there
are
a
lot
of
organizations
in
town
who
do
exactly
that
they
do
the
pre-qualification.
G
They
look
at
your
income,
etc
and
making
sure
that
you
do
fit
within
this
120
mi
threshold
or
80
or
whatever
it
is.
So
we
got
a
lot
of
folks
doing
that.
A
lot
of
even
of
our
like
hayden
homes
has
first
story.
That's
what
this
is.
What
first
story
does
is
almost
exactly
this
same
thing:
use
deed
restrictions,
qualified
people
and
then
ensure
that
their
shared
equity,
so
that
that
home
remains
affordable.
Long
term,
I
hope
that
helps.
A
E
E
So
the
expedited
land
division
process
has
a
shorter
time
frame
than
a
regular
land
division
process,
and
someone
still
might
choose
just
do
the
regular
one,
but
if
they
want
to
go
through
this
process,
when
an
application
submitted
a
planner,
it
has
a
completeness
review
of
it
and
it's
typically
30
days
under
a
regular
land
division
process.
Under
the
proposed
expedited
and
middle
housing
land
division
process,
it's
reduced
to
21
days.
E
E
E
I
think
what
she
was
saying,
if
I
heard
correctly
was
the
intention-
is
to
get
more
housing
on
the
ground
and
we
are
still
reviewing
the
middle
housing
under
the
mds
building
permit
process,
so
they're
still
going
through
that
process.
Then
they
have
this
separate
process
which
they
can
do
concurrently.
E
E
I
guess
it
provides
housing
dave,
it
does
provide
home
ownership
opportunities.
You
already
get
to
look
at
the
middle
housing
to
make
sure
it
complies
with
setbacks
and
height
requirements
and
the
door
front
door
orientation
garage
standards,
you're.
Looking
at
everything
that
we
did
through
house
bill
2001
all
this
senate
bill
458
is
doing,
is
drawing
lines
on
the
map
so
that
there
is
ownership
opportunities
when.
E
Street
you're
still
going
to
see
that
triplex
that
was
approved
through
house
bill
2001
amendments
you're
not
going
to
know
whether
or
not
those
are
rental
or
ownership,
because
you
don't
see
the
lines
that
create
the
properties.
But
that's
what
senate
bill
458
does
it
allows
the
units
to
be
on
their
own
properties
but
from
the
front
of
the
street?
It's
going
to
look
and
act
like
a
triplex.
G
They
are
telling
us
very
clearly
that
we
are
not
building
enough
and
we
are
not
building
quickly
enough,
and
so
that's
why
we're
seeing
like
the
shelter
super
sighting
legislation
that
says
you
must
approve
cities
as
long
as
it.
You
know
me
building
code,
nothing
to
do
with
development
code.
That's
got
extended
for
another
year
till
2023
we
saw
house
bill
2001.
That
said,
you
must
allow
these
in
your
residential
standard
zones
we're
seeing
this
expedited
land
division
and
senate
bill
458.
All
of
these
things
are
very
clearly
the
state
saying
cities.
G
You
are
not
allowing
enough
and
you
are
not
allowing
it
quickly
enough,
and
so
my
suspicion
is
we'll
see.
I
could
be
wrong,
but
my
suspicion
is
that
this
is
the
direction
the
state's
going
we're
starting
to
see
it
more
and
more.
There
was
just
a
comparable
announcement
on
the
federal
level
today
about
to
combat
inflation,
which
is
largely
from
housing
prices.
G
So
I
hear
I'm
not
an
economist,
I'm
repeating
what
I
said
is
we
need
to
get
rid
of
this
exclusionary
zoning
as
they're
saying
and
allow
for
up
to
four
plexes
in
all
standard
residential
neighborhoods
nationwide,
we're
starting
to
see
this
groundswell
more
and
more,
both
at
the
state
level,
where
it's
really
happened
directly,
and
you
all
have
seen
this.
This
is
what
our
third
or
fourth
conversation
about
a
symbol,
similar
topic
where
the
state's
saying
you
must,
and
now
it's
federal
as
well.
G
So
it's
it's
not
been
enacted
at
the
federal
level,
but
I
think
that
there's
more
and
more
direction
moving
this
way.
So
it
is
absolutely
saying
we
as
a
community
and
as
a
country
and
as
a
state
have
underbelt
and
we're
not
going
to
allow
it
to
happen,
and
so
the
state
and
feds
are
deliberately
removing
the
public
process
and
not
allowing
us
to
make
decisions
like
this,
because
they
don't
like
how
we
have
done
it.
That's
far,
so
we
can
all
disagree
or
agree
with
it
whatever.
G
E
Idea
just
to
continue
on
what
the
senate
bill
458
requires
so
dave.
This
address
is
your
one
of
your
first
questions
about
accessory
drawing
units
so
again,
you're
just
reviewing
it
as
a
triplex.
It's
always
going
to
be
a
triplex,
so
an
adu
or
accessory
drawing
unit
will
not
be
allowed
with
any
of
them,
because
triplex
today
doesn't
allow
adus.
So
only
one
unit
per
lot
will
be
allowed.
Okay,.
E
G
E
E
If
there
is
parking
on
a
certain
lot
or
there's
a
a
lot,
that's
in
the
back.
You
can
require
access
easements
for
pedestrian
access,
common
areas,
driveways
and
parking,
so
you
and
utilities,
because
in
a
sense
sometimes
your
utilities
may
cross
property
lines,
and
so
easements
are
allowed
to
be
required.
For
that,
and
then
an
important
thing
to
realize
is
that
the
building
code
really
does
come
into
play
early
in
the
game,
with
these
middle
housing
developments,
if
they're
going
to
go
through
the
land
division
process.
E
And
then,
all
of
a
sudden,
in
this
case
it's
an
attached
units
you're
going
to
put
property
lines
down
the
center
of
them.
We
need
to
make
sure
that,
through
the
build,
the
the
triplex
review
and
in
the
land
division
process
that
each
of
these
units
with
the
new
property
lines
will
comply
with
the
building
code
and
the
oregon
residential
specialty
code.
E
Yes,
so
any
middle
housing
day,
so
it's
the
duplexes,
triplexes
quads
and
cottage
clusters
the
bill.
The
way
it's
written
would
obviously
apply
to
townhomes,
but
it
doesn't
that
that
part
just
doesn't
make
sense,
because
a
townhome
is
already
on
its
own
lot.
You
can't
further
subdivide
to
put
a
townhome
on
a
line,
whereas
a
triplex
has
three
units
on
one
lot.
The
bill
allows
those
now
to
have
each
unit
on
its
own
lot,
so
it's
a
duplexes,
triplexes
quads
and
the
cottage
cluster
developments,
so
the
timing
allowed.
E
They
do
give
you
three
different
options
on
when
a
applicant
can
propose
to
do
the
middle
housing,
land
division
process,
and
we
worked
with
building
and
engineering
and
planning
to
make
sure
that,
because
these
are
going
to
be
reviewed
concurrently
in
some
cases
that
we
come
up
with
a
requirement
for
them
to
apply
that
the
city
is
able
to
work
with,
and
the
bill
does
give
you
this
flexibility.
So
in
the
bottom
of
the
screen
is
what
is
being
proposed.
E
So
a
middle
housing
land
division
may
be
submitted
when
the
parent
site
is
developed
with
middle
housing.
So
if
it's
already
existing
and
they
want
to
go
through
the
process,
they
can
or
it
has
an
active
building
permit
to
construct
middle
housing.
That
means
that
the
building
permit
has
already
been
reviewed
for
middle
housing
and
been
issued,
but
now
they'd
like
to
come
in,
even
though
they
haven't
started
construction
to
also
do
the
land
division
process
or
they
can
do
it
concurrently,
so
they
can
apply
for
let's
say
they
have
a
vacant
lot.
E
E
E
No
one
of
the
requirements
for
the
final
plat
is
that
the
triplex
is
already
gone
through
some
building
permit
inspections
on
site
before
they
can
record
the
final
plant.
So
that
way
we
can
make
sure
that
the
units
meet
the
proposed
property
lines
and
utilities,
and
things
like
that,
so
it
has
to
be
built
not
one
at
a
time.
J
E
So
what
senate
bill
458
does
not
allow
a
city
to
do.
This
is
very
clear
in
the
bill.
We
cannot
require
units
to
front
to
street,
so
you
will
have
landlocked
parcels
as
in
that
example,
I
showed
you
because
all
you're
looking
at
is
the
original
triplex
on
the
parent
lot.
So
we
cannot
require
any
street
frontage
for
each
unit.
E
E
We
cannot
require
any
minimum
lot
sizes
or
dimensions
for
the
new
lot,
you're,
only
making
sure
that
the
middle
housing
lot
size
meets
the
lot
size
for
the
district.
So
in
the
triplex
example
we're-
and
let's
say
it's
in
the
standard
density
residential
district-
if
they
are
proposing
a
triplex,
we're
going
to
see
as
part
of
the
triflex
review
that
it
meets
the
4
000
square
foot
lot,
then
they
can
come
in
even
could
currently
do
the
land
division.
E
E
E
E
Other
things
that
we
cannot
require,
we
cannot
require
anything,
including
street
trees
that
is
not
listed
in
the
bill,
so
only
things
we
can
require
is
separate
utilities
easements
that
we
discussed
one
dwelling
unit
per
lot
and
building
code
and
residential
specialty
code
compliance,
for
example.
We
cannot
require
additional
parking,
additional
driveways
street
trees.
E
E
It
is
very
clear
in
3.6,
with
the
addition
language
that
we
are
proposing,
that
these
will
always
be.
Let's
use
triplex
a
triplex,
so
you
only
get
one
of
those
units
that
may
be
eligible
for
a
short-term
rental
as
long
as
it
meets
all
the
short-term
rental
requirements.
So
when
they
apply
for
their
triplex
and
they
want
a
short-term
rental,
we
would
look
at
that
250-foot
spacing.
We
would
look
at
the
parking
requirements
and
whatever
else
is
required
for
a
short-term
rental.
E
So
just
want
to
be
very
clear.
Not
all
three
units
can
be
a
short-term
rental
only
one,
and
that
was
taken
care
of
when
we
adopted
the
household
2001
amendments
and
then
in
the
draft
that
I'm
sure
you've
all
looked
at
in
special
standards
and
provisions
in
3.6.
We've
added
additional
language,
making
it
clear
that
these
will
always
be
reviewed
as
the
original
metal
housing.
E
E
E
We
also
emailed
the
neighborhood
association
land
use
chairs,
as
required
by
the
bend
development
code
on
april
14th.
Then
we
had
our
work
session
almost
a
month
later
with
the
nla,
the
eccelin.
You
might
help
me
with.
I
forget
environmental,
another
committee
that
we
have
I'm
just
trying
a
blank.
I
just
have
the
abbreviation
b-dab
right.
Did
you
see
that
uw.
E
Committee
was,
and
then
the
ecc
and
the
nla
yeah.
Then
we
followed
up
again
with
an
email
on
april
26
to
the
nla
and
the
large
interested
group
of
people,
and
we
had
our
public
hearing
and
planning
commission
on
may
9th
and
they
voted
to
recommend
approval
of
the
amendments
to
the
city.
Council,
I
believe,
is
5-0
with
two
commissioners
being
absent,
and
then
this
wednesday
will
be
the
hearing
before
the
city
council
and
likely
the
first
reading.
A
J
D
Morgan
schmidt,
I'm
here
great
thank
you
all
chair,
sears,
is
needing
to
leave
too
for
another
appointment
and
so
kathy
is
gonna.
Take
over
the
meeting
for
us
additionally
know
that
there
are
seven
representatives
here
right
now,
so
if
anybody
else
leaves,
we
won't
be
able
to
take
action
on
an
issue.
B
B
That's
what
I
believe
was
said
at
the
last
pc
hearing,
because
there
was
a
question
on
that
and
yet
today
it
was
apparently
march
21st,
and
this
is
an
important
question
simply
because
in
between
those
times
there
was
an
nla
meeting
and
had
the
nla
had
proper
notice
of
it.
They
could
have
had
it
at
our
last
monthly
meeting.
B
But
as
I
understand
the
dates,
or
at
least
I
thought
I
understood
the
dates.
The
notice
to
the
nla
people
was
on
the
14th,
which
was
after
our
last
meeting
and
that
basically
drove
the
need
for
this
meeting.
So
that's
first
question
and
the
first
question
is
the
next
to
last
slide.
You
talk
about
multi-family
units,
and
yet
I
thought
this
code
was
only
for
single
family
units
on
you
know
one
family
per
lot,
but
that
chart
talked
about
multi-family.
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
how
that
plays
in.
Thank
you.
E
E
E
E
A
E
B
E
Include
multifamily
right
here,
because
when
we
did
the
amendments
for
house
bill
2001,
we
want
to
make
it
clear
that
if
you
have
multiple
units
on
your
property,
for
example,
accessory
joining
units,
duplex
traffic
squads,
multi-unit
and
cottages-
that
only
one
of
those
units
can
be
a
short-term
rental.
So
that
way,
if
we
are
doing
all
these
code
changes
and
trying
to
get
more
rental
units
and
housing
opportunities
on
the
ground
that
they
don't
all
just
turn
into
like
a
small
motel
or
hotel
or
short-term
rental.
So
we
added
this
language
back
in.
E
Even
if
they
go
through
the
middle
housing
land
division
process.
We
are
always
going
to
look
at
the
original
middle
housing
application
and
only
one
of
those
units
can
have
a
short-term
rental
if
they
meet
all
the
requirements,
including
the
250
foot
buffer
requirement
parking
requirement.
Whatever
else
is
required
for
short-term
rentals.
F
K
Have
your
feelings,
no
yeah,
I'm
sorry!
I
didn't
understand
what
you
said
so
you're
ready
for
my
questions.
Right,
yes,
ready
for
your
questions.
Okay,
thank
you
with
regard
to
short-term
rentals.
Well,
let's
back
up
a
little
bit,
do
we
have
any
estimate
how
many
units
we
expect
to
be
able
to
build
as
a
result
of
sb
458
any
kind
of
projection.
E
K
Okay,
so
we
don't
really
have
an
idea
how
many
of
these
units
could
be
built,
so
we
don't
have
a
good
idea
of
the
potential
for
short-term
rentals,
I'm
kind
of
getting.
I
know
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
roundabout,
so
I
still
have
this
concern
that
the
wording
does
not
exclude
short-term
rentals.
I
I
still
have
a
concern
that
you're
going
to
get
some
people
that
will
find
a
way
to
buy
these
and
they're
going
to
end
up
using
them
for
reasons
that
we
don't
want
them
to
use
them.
K
For
you
know
we
don't
we
don't
want
more
short-term
rentals
in
in
a
situation
where
we're
trying
to
create
affordable
housing.
So
if
we've
got
25
of
these
units
that
could
be
used
as
short-term
rentals-
and
I
know
we've
got
the
the
distance
restriction
and
you
know
maybe
we
increase
the
distance
from
from
one
short-term
rental
to
the
next,
so
that
we
don't
run
into
this.
I
I
guess
I'm
just
really
concerned
that
25
percent
of
these
units
could
become
str's.
E
G
G
One
is
that
the
state
for
our
planning
purposes
asked
us
through
house
bill
2001
to
assume
a
three
percent
redevelopment
aspect
of
units
to
accommodate
these
middle
housing
types
over
our
20-year
planning
period.
That's
what
they're
telling
us
to
use
for
planning,
because
we
don't
frankly
have
a
good
basis
anywhere
in
oregon
of
cities
who
have
allowed
these
outright,
and
so
that
was
a
place
that
this
the
state
after
much
back
and
forth,
landed
assume
this
for
planning
purposes.
G
So
that's
sort
of
our
standard
right
now,
unless
we
can
determine
that
we're
actually
seeing
a
very
different
rate
of
these
popping
up,
in
which
case
we
use
that.
So
that's
something
that
will
be
determined
through.
What
used
to
be
called
our
housing
needs
analysis
and
is
now
called
our
housing
capacity
analysis
and
our
growth
management
division
have
just
begun.
This
work
they're
just
sort
of
setting
out
the
framework
and
parameters
of
that
project,
but
intend
to
complete
that
housing
capacity
analysis
in
the
next
I
think
year
or
two.
G
I,
when
I'm
looking
for
staff
to
nod
along
or
shake
their
heads
if
I've
got
it
wrong,
but
it's
somewhere
in
there.
So
I
expect
it
that
we'll
hear
a
lot
more
about
the
hca
or
housing
capacity.
Analysis
as
time
goes
on,
because
that's
exactly
what
we'll
do
and
then,
as
part
of
that
and
what
we
did
previously
with
the
ugb
expansion,
because
the
hca
can
it's
sort
of
part
of
the
lead-in
to
a
ugb
discussion.
G
When
we
did
this
last
time,
we
didn't,
I
don't
think,
have
the
short-term
rental
program
fully
embedded
that
was
sort
of
a
parallel
track,
and
so
we
determined
what
our
sort
of
vacant
home
rate
was
through
the
best
data
that
we
could
find,
and
then
our
job
as
a
city
is
to
accommodate
that
whatever
that
number
is
and
build
to
accommodate
what
our
future
projection
of
that
is.
So
just
if
it
helps
I
mean
I
I
100.
G
If
that
makes
sense,
so
that's
still
adding
more
housing
and
if
that's
not
what
you
want,
then
we're
back
in
the
same
place,
but
just
know
that
what
we're
looking
at
is
accommodating
both
trans,
both
the
transitory
population
of
tourists
and
also
long
term
and
accounting
for
that
and
how
much
housing
we
allowed
to
be
billed
in
ben
per
state
law.
So
I
don't
know
that
might
have
just
confused
you
all
more,
but
we
will
accommodate
that
and
in
fact
plan
to
overcome
that
in
our
next
set.
G
I
did
want
to
say
that
I
think
in
staff
conversation
and
preparation
for
this,
I
think
you
all
could
potentially
propose
further
limiting
the
str
uptake
in
these
middle
housing.
I
don't
think
that
that
council
will
be
able
to
handle
that
in
this,
but
that's
a
good
topic
to
continue
to
discuss
with
them
and
they
do
have
a
work
session
on
short-term
rentals
as
well.
So
the
timing
might
be
good
in
that.
G
K
E
E
I
can
look
work
with
ian
just
to
make
sure
it's
very
clear
between
the
two
sections
that
we
have
up
here
on
the
code.
If
I
need
to
add
anything
to
make
it
more
clear
that
the
short-term
rentals
are
only
allowed
for
a
triplex,
for
example,
if
the
triplex
meets
3.6,
whatever
the
short-term
rental
requirement
is.
If-
and
I
feel
like
it's
clear,
but
it
needs
to
be
clear
that
they
need
to
still
comply.
H
And
and
to
if
I
could
jump
in
to
build
on
that
if
noa
or
an
individual
or
any
other
group
wants
to
advocate
to
counsel
for
further
restrictions
on
short-term
rentals,
that's
obviously
fine.
I
don't
see
that
one
way
or
another
impacting
these
sb458
changes
to
our
development
code.
That,
to
me,
is
a
separate
it's
a
separate
issue.
It
would
involve
separate,
distinct
changes
to
the
development
code
that
people
can
advocate
for
and
the
policy
makers
can
decide
on.
But
it's
not
it
it's
not.
H
It's
not
really
that
relevant
to
the
changes
we're
making
here
or
what
sb458
tells
us
we
have
to
do
so.
I
think
it's
something
that
noa
could
consider
to
consider
and
take
take
the
time
to
do
that,
but
I
don't
see
it
as
a
reason
to
I
think
impact
the
progress
of
these
particular
changes
that
the
senate
bill
requires
us
to
make.
E
C
F
Dave
I'll
kind
of
answer
that,
because
summer
is,
has
left
the
meeting
but
and
we're
out
of
time,
but
we
might
be
able
to
fit
in
elizabeth
next
if
she's,
real,
quick.
We
are
having
this
meeting
because
jim
cristo
had
some
questions
and
at
and
presented
it
to
us
at
our
last
meeting,
and
then
we
voted
as
a
group
to
have
this
additional
meeting.
F
F
I
E
I
E
So
the
expedited
land
division
process
before
we
went
to
city
view
was
actually
on
the
paper
application.
I
believe
so
an
applicant
could
check
the
box
and
say
they
want
to
go
through
the
expedite
land
division
process
because
the
process
is
outlined
in
that
ors.
Section:
we've
just
never
codified
that
process.
Until
now,
since
the
middle
housing
land
division
process
mirrors
it
so,
instead
of
a
applicant
having
to
look
into
ors
and
trying
to
figure
out
their,
you
know,
review
timelines
and
appeal
process
notification
processes.
E
K
K
E
C
E
H
Lisa,
sorry,
just
your
question:
can
we
expect
more
of
these
things
from
the
state?
I
don't
know.
The
state
has
started
to
show
a
penchant
for
taking
certain
things
out
of
the
land-use
galaxy
and
saying
this
isn't
a
land-use
decision.
This
thing
isn't
a
land
use
decision,
so
that
is
certainly
something
that
we've
seen
more
of
in
the
last
few
years.
H
I
I
I
guess
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
we
saw
more
of
that,
but
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
limiting
so
so
that
that
can
have
the
effect
of
limiting
process
limiting
discretion,
sometimes
limiting
the
required
notice.
So
I
I
see
that,
probably
being
I
don't
know
a
realistic
something
that
we
might
see
more
of.
K
E
So
I
didn't
think
from
our
last
discussion
that
we
had
wildlife
corridors
mapped
with
russ
and
colin.
I
believe
that
question
came
up.
What
we
do
have
mapped
in
the
comprehensive
plan
is
what
is
allowed
in
the
code,
and
it
is
oh
and
that's
just
for
the
expedited
land
division.
It
is
not
for
the
middle
housing
so
for
an
expedited
land
division
applicability.
Not
only
does
it
have
to
be
deed,
restricted
or
at
80
percent
or
more
of
the
net
density.
E
K
E
F
E
H
H
I
guess
I
probably
need
to
rewind
and
make
sure
I
understand
the
question.
If
the
question
is,
do
we
have
wildlife?
Do
we
know
where
the
wildlife
corridors
are
in
the
city
in
terms
of
having
them
mapped
and
have
I
guess,
development
considerations
or
restrictions
on
them?
I
don't,
I
don't
think
we
do
and
I'm
not
I'm
sort
of
struggling
to.
H
I
guess
understand,
I
won't
say
the
relevance
to
these
changes,
but
I
maybe
I
can
ask
lisa
what
what's
the
concern
with
the
fact
that
and
again
what
these
changes
to
the
development
code
do?
Is
they
don't
they
don't
allow
anything
to
be
built
or
developed
that
can't
already
be
built
or
developed?
They
just
create
sort
of
a
multiple
ownership
opportunities
instead
of
one
for
something
that
can
be
built
and
developed
under
the
current
code.
So
what
what's
the?
What's?
The
concern
about
wildlife
corridors
related
to
these
changes.
K
So
what
I'm
imagining
is,
let's
say
that
you've
got
a
lot
currently
and
it
just
has
the
one
house
on
it
and
now
all
of
a
sudden,
and
that
lot
has
a
wildlife
corridor
on
it.
So
it's
got
some
restriction
in
terms
of
where
you
can
build
on
that
lot.
So
then
we
take
that
that
one
large
parcel
and
now
we're
going
to
divide
it.
Maybe
it's
divided
in
three
divided
in
four:
you
still
have
the
wildlife
corridor.
You
still
have
some
restrictions
there.
H
If
there's
going
to
be
an
impact
on
wildlife
or
wildlife's
ability
to
travel,
it's
going
to
be
the
building
of
the
thing,
the
development
of
the
thing,
not
how
the
thing
is
divided
up
for
ownership
and
and
these
changes
that
sb
458
says
we
have
to
make
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
facilitating
or
allowing
something
to
be
built
that
can't
already
be
built
right.
So
they
does
development,
have
an
impact
on
wildlife
and
their
ability
to
move
around
app.
I
mean
again
not
a
naturalist,
but
I
think
intuitively.
H
H
I
think
this
is
a
it's
an
interesting
thing
to
think
about,
and
I
do
think
it's
something
that
frankly,
as
we're
having
the
conversation,
I'd
probably
like
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
about,
but
I'm
not
sure
it's
really
connected
directly
to
the
impacts
of
these
code
changes
because
they
don't
allow
anything
to
be
built
that
wouldn't
already
be
allowed
to
be
built.
They
just
changed
the
number
of
humans
that
can
own
this
thing,
and
I
don't
see
how
that
has
an
impact
on
wildlife
and.
B
That
might
happen
in
the
future,
but
it
does
sound
like
the
city's
like
this
thing
has
been
done
already
and
there's
mortgage
lenders
out
there
that
do
this
kind
of
stuff
and
as
long
as
the
buyers
really
get
educated,
you
know
and
what
they
can
and
cannot
do
in
the
fact
that
when
they
sell
they're
going
to
be
limited
what
they
can
get,
then
I
think
there's
nothing
more
to
say
about
that
now.
The
one
area
I
still
have
a
concern
about
is
the
timing.
B
B
The
city
had
plenty
of
notice
and
I'm
not
really
sure
why
they
waited
until
march,
to
send
stuff
to
lanti's
chairs
in
april
to
send
it
to
the
nla,
because
that's
really
too
late
and
it
doesn't
give
us
a
chance
to
really
go
ahead,
and
you
know
talk
to
our
neighborhoods
to
find
out.
You
know
you
know
what
we
should
do
so
if
I
was
going
to
recommend
one
thing
to
write
about
to
the
council
or
testify
the
council,
it
would
be
this
timing
issue.
Thank
you.
F
F
I
guess
I
can
see
where
I'm
improving
our
mail
systems,
for
instance
in
bonn,
I'm
not
saying
we're
perfect,
but
in
bana
our
we
encourage
our
land
use
person
to
use
our
white
acres
at
gmail.com
email
address
based
on
michaela's
great
advice,
so
that
somebody
else
is
also
aware
of
what's
coming
in
and
going
out
and
not
just
the
land
use
person.
So
that
would
speed
things
up
if
anybody
wanted
to
set
that
up,
it's
questionable
whether
we
should
be
using
our
own
personal
emails
to
get
that
kind
of
stuff
anyway.
So.
C
D
H
H
Administrative
in
terms
of
its
impact
on
how
things
get
owned,
rather
than
substantive
in
terms
of
its
impact
on
changing
how
a
city
looks
or
changes
or
gets
developed.
So
that's
why
I
think
this
came
when
it
did
and
I
I
don't
think
we
anticipated
at
least
I
didn't
anticipate,
getting
some
of
the
questions
we
did
from
nla
folks,
which
we're
happy
to
try
to
answer.
But
I
think
that's
that's.
Why
we're
dealing
with
this
now
and
we're
dealing
with
it
a
year
ago.
C
Let
me
be
the
first
to
say:
pauline
has
been
one
of
my
greatest
instructors
and
I
have
nothing
but
praise
for
the
way
she
has
brought
me
along
and
tolerated
my
input
for
all
of
the
things
that
she
has
done
and
for
all
of
the
things
that
she
has
educated
me
for.
So
I
wanted
to
clean
that
up
very
quickly.
C
F
K
So
what
we
learned
today
is
very
very
helpful.
I
I
still
have
a
lot
of
concerns,
but
maybe
my
concerns
are
looking
at
it
from
the
client
perspective
and
I'm
trying
to
imagine
if
I
were
counseling
an
individual
who
is
considering
owning
owning
one
of
these
properties,
and
it
goes
back
to
what
jim
was
saying.
You
know
your
upside
is
really
really
capped.
E
E
Do
provide
kayla
with
my
work
program,
but
it's
for
internal
use.
I
get
a
little
hesitant
on
sharing
things
because
it's
all
tentative
and
subject
to
change,
but
we
can
look
at
you
know,
maybe
even
on,
and
I
notice
on
the
agendas
usually
has
upcoming
dates
to
know
about,
or
things
like
that,
but
we
can.
I
can
work
with
michaela
on
providing
maybe
some
high
level
code
updates
that
may
be
coming.
D
Yeah
I'll
get
to
you
just
a
second
jim,
but
as
far
as
process
goes
so.
My
understanding
from
the
staff
here
today
is
that
a
short-term
rental
letter
would
not
be
included
in
this
set
of
package
amendments,
but
that
we
can
still
write
to
counsel
asking
them
to
further
restrict
short-term
rentals.
And
so
I
would
suggest
that
you
don't
have
to
do
anything
urgently.
Lisa,
maybe
you
and
I
can
touch
base
about
what
exactly
your
concerns
are,
and
we
can
talk
about
bringing
those
to
the
group
at
the
next
meeting.
G
Okay,
let
me
I
interject
really
quickly
and
suggest
that
this
group
does
watch
the
work
session.
That's
coming
this
week
on
short-term
rentals,
because
you
may
get
some
good
information
out
of
that
on
sort
of
what
direction
council
would
like
to
go.
Whether
or
not
you
submit
a
letter
before
that
work
session
or
after
is
up
to
you,
but
I
think
that
it's
worth
this
group
watching
so
that
you
know
how
staff
is
being
directed
and
can
engage
appropriately
going
forward.
G
H
H
J
K
Actually,
I
do
have
one
comment.
I
do
think
that
if
it's
possible
to
to
get
the
letter
done
prior
to
this
work
session,
you
know
I've
I'm
just
kind
of
looking
at
how
things
have
gone.
If
we
submit
the
letter
following
a
work
session,
it
almost
becomes
like
it's
an
afterthought
and
it
doesn't
really
get
considered.
K
F
F
Yeah
those
letters
do
take
a
really
long
time.
The
last
one
went
through
three
or
four
edits
back
and
forth
summer,
and
I
were
both
involved
in
in
processing
it
and
checking
it
and
kayla
was
an
n
or,
and
I'm
saying
her
name
right
was
also
involved
so
and
getting
them
to
be
timely.
But
since
we
have
not
the
whole
nla
here
and
since
we
don't
even
have
the
ability
to
get
the
whole
nla
together
before
that
next
meeting.
B
Okay,
I've
been
listening
to
the
conversation
on
the
advanced
notice
and
I
guess
you
know,
looks
like
there
may
be
another
path
in
writing
a
letter
to
the
council
complaining
about
the
lack
of
notice
and
that,
if
the
you
know,
the
city
staff
will
work
with
us
and
at
least
gives
us
heads
up.
You
know
two
three
months
ahead
of
time
that
hey
this
is
coming
down
to
pike
and
it's
got
to
be
done
by
july,
so
expect
it
in
the
spring.
B
F
I
keep
having
to
toggle
that
I
want
to
apologize
earlier
from
tech
being
caught
talking
to
my
cat.
While
I
was
supposedly
running
the
meeting,
somehow
animals
have
a
way
of
just
taking
priority.
Sometimes
so
do
we
have
anything
else
we
need
to
discuss.
Does
anybody
who
hasn't
spoken
up
during
this
session
here?
We
got
two
minutes
left.
F
C
F
Why
what
my
wife's
at
my
last
meeting
I've
timed
out
for
my
for
my
time
in
service
here
and
I
have
other
family
stuff
that
I
need
to
be
paying
attention
to
in
my
life.
So
I'm
going
to
stop
doing
all
of
my
n.
A
business
no
longer
be
the
chair
of
boyd
acres
no
longer
be
the
co-chair,
the
treasurer,
the
secretary,
all
that
stuff
that
I've
been
doing
for
the
last
year.
F
C
F
I
I
don't
well
you're,
certainly
welcome
to
use
that
word.
I
don't
see
anybody
here
in
the
nla,
as
retired
from
life
simply
holding
a
place,
and
I
don't
really
view
anybody
here
as
irrelevant.
I
think
that
everybody
here
is
putting
in
a
great
deal
of
time
and
effort,
and
I
think
that
it
can
just
kind
of
wear
you
down
and
wear
you
out
after
a
while.