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B
B
So
I
welcome
an
introductions.
We
started
with
that
today.
I'm
really
hoping
that
we
can
talk
about
the
history
and
the
relationship
between
the
neighborhood
associations,
the
nla
and
the
city,
and
also
the
purpose
of
advisory
committees,
and
our
committee
in
particular,
and
then
I'm
gonna
have
ian
go
through
public
meetings
and
records
loss
so
that
one's
fun
we
like
to
save
it
for
the
last
so
that
you
can
take
a
nap
just
kidding.
Ian
he'll
make
fun
of
himself
too.
So
you'll
get
to
hear
his
jokes
later,
it's
a
great!
B
As
you
probably
know,
those
are
groups
who
are
probably
a
subdivision
or
less
a
couple
of
blocks
within
a
neighborhood
association.
So
very
small
scale
and
they're
typically
created
with
homeowners
dues
and
they
look
over
things
like
ccnr's,
covenants
conditions
and
restrictions
and
the
aesthetics
of
a
neighborhood
community
areas
that
they
share
and
and
again
those
are
paid
by
dues
from
the
homeowners
that
live
in
within
that
area,
and
they
have
nothing
really
to
do
with
the
city
of
bend.
So
and
that's
that's
one,
I
guess
generalization
that
people
seem
to
make.
B
Is
they
think
neighborhood
associations
are
homeowners
associations,
so
the
difference
is
that
neighborhood
associations
are
more
like
districts.
That's
something
I
like
to
describe
them
as
because
it
seems
like
people
understand
that
better
we
have
13
of
them
in
bend,
and
each
of
them
is
well
recognized
in
city
code.
So,
within
the
city
code
we
actually
recognize
neighborhood
associations
as
being
a
way
to
facilitate
connections
with
the
city,
particularly
on
land
use
matters.
B
We
I
put
the
the
code
section
up
there
so
that
you
can
look
at
it.
If
you
wanted
to,
we
represent
businesses,
homeowners
and
renters.
So
that's
something
that
we
really
try
to
stress
is
that
if
you
live
within
the
neighborhood
association
boundaries
or
if
you
own
a
property
or
business,
you
your
voice
counts.
We
want
you
to
be
included
in
your
neighborhood
association
as
they're
they're
surveying
their
members
on
issues
that
are
coming
through
and
then
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance.
B
B
B
There
was
a
few
reasons
for
that.
One
was
that
we
didn't
have
staff
support
for
them
anymore,
and
but
there
was
this
other
piece
of
it
that
neighborhoods
really
wanted
to
have
their
own
voice
and
there's
some
limitations
when
you're
within
the
city
and
that
that
didn't
allow
them
to
advocate
for
certain
matters.
So
it
was
a,
I
think,
a
good
step
in
the
right
or
a
step
in
the
right
direction
for
allowing
that
community
voice
to
come
out.
B
We
also
had,
let's
see
the
neighborhood
association
roundtable,
that
formed
so
once
those
neighborhoods
were
decentralized.
The
neighborhood
association
roundtable.
That
john
was
mentioning
and
we
call
it
nart.
It
was
a
group
that
was
formed
so
that
the
neighborhood
associations
had
a
space
to
collaborate,
talk
about
projects
and
best
practices
and
work
together
on
on
issues
that
they
were
seeing
and
back
in
that
time.
B
You
know
it's
changed
over
years,
like
the
touch
points
with
council,
but
I
believe
neighborhood
associations
had
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
council
once
a
year
where
they
were
during
goal
setting.
They
could
come
up
and
they
could
ask
tell
council
what
the
issues
were
within
their
neighborhood
association
and
they
changed
it
then
to
where
a
neighborhood
got
each
neighborhood
got
one
month
to
talk
to
council,
so
it's
changed
over
time.
B
Definitely
I
think
they
realized,
though,
that
none
of
those
were
working,
that
that
structure
was
working,
and
so
they
wanted
to
reform
it,
and
the
neighborhood
association
roundtable
started
talking
to
staff
about
how
they
could
maybe
get
an
advisory
committee
on
the
books
for
neighborhoods
and
the
the
city
council
at
the
time
was
receptive
to
that
and
so
in
2019
to
2021.
That
was
when
they
began
to
talk
about
like
the
codes
and
how
an
advisory
committee
would
work
for
the
neighborhood
associations.
B
Nart
still
exists,
so
that
is
now
what
we
call
like
a
best
practices
or
community
group.
So
we
recommend
that
if
you're
an
nla
representative
you're,
not
a
neighborhood
association,
roundtable
representative-
and
that's
because
when
you're
an
nla
rep,
we
have
certain
laws
that
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
and
we're
following
and
that
we
will
talk
about
a
little
bit
later.
B
The
the
yeah
like,
I
said
they
still
exist.
We
still
say
that
it's
really
good
for
neighborhood
associations
to
have
a
member
on
there,
just
so
that
they
can
collaborate
on
best
practices,
but
I'm
not
they're
separate
from
us,
and
I
don't
attend
those
meetings.
So
I'm
not
sure
what
exactly
they're
talking
about
at
these
times,
but
they
were
the
reason
that
the
nla
was
established
and
then
in
2019
it
was
the
first
year
that
the
nla
was
in
existence.
B
As
a
committee,
they
decided
that
they
were
going
to
ask
council
for
a
couple
of
items.
One
of
those
items
was
to
double
the
communications
grant
funding.
That
is
something
that
all
of
the
neighborhood
associations
have
access
to
and
annually
we
have
a
certain
amount,
that's
divided
throughout
the
neighborhoods
and
back
in
2019
it
was
under
50
000.
B
Now
it's
up
towards
100
000,
divided
by
all
13
neighborhood
associations,
and
then
they
also
asked
to
hire
a
staff
member
who
would
support
the
nla
and
be
a
liaison
with
the
neighborhood
associations,
and
that
is
why
they
hired
me
so
you're
coming
on
at
a
really
good
time.
I
think,
because
we've
just
finished
up
the
first.
You
know
four
years
of
having
the
original
founding
members
on
the
nla
and
I
think
that
it's
a
great
time
to
look
at
how
the
nla
is
operating
and
how
we
can
be
more
successful.
B
B
In
all
of
this,
on
the
board
you
see,
there
are
about
12
advisory
committees
that
are
permanent
advisory
committees
with
the
city,
meaning
that
they're
established
within
the
code
they're,
not
project,
specific
or
time
limited,
and
then
we
have
two
that
are
not
necessarily
directing
council,
but
a
city
manager,
appointed
committee,
which
is
the
accessibility
advisory
committee
and
our
police
chief's
advisory
council,
which
just
changed,
because
we
have
a
new
police
chief
and
they're
going
to
be
meeting,
but
they
have
not
started
yet.
So
that
is
one
that
is
to
come.
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C
C
B
So
here's
your
advisory
buddies
and
what
I
was
about
to
say
is
that
each
of
these
committees
look
at
these
programs
and
policies
and
code
changes
through
different
set
of
lens
so
with
the
affordable
housing
advisory
committee,
for
example.
They're.
Looking
at
all
of
these
things,
with
the
lens
of
how
do
we
make
housing
more
affordable
for
everyone
in
bend
so
that
people
can
live
and
work
or
who
work
here
can
live
here?
B
Also
bend
economic
development,
advisory
board
they're,
looking
at
how
it
affects
how
changes
impact
businesses
within
the
city
and
advocating
for
changes
that
those
business
owners
are
wanting,
so
we
all
have
different
focuses.
Obviously
the
neighborhoods
we
tend
to
be
very
broad.
We
could
be
fireworks
one
day
and
we
could
be
street
safety
another
day.
So
we
really
have
to
work
to
refine
our
scope
as
much
as
we
can
on
the
nla
and
be
cognizant
of
what
kind
of
projects
we
want
to
take
on
and
what
our
members
are
really
wanting.
B
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
focus
on
city-wide
concerns
as
a
committee
rather
than
maybe
what's
happening
in
in
southeast
bend
for
the
day
or
maybe
century
west
is
having
issues
with
century
drive,
but
that
doesn't
impact
everyone
right.
So
that's
the
filter
that
we're
trying
to
go
through.
B
So
with
the
bend
or
sorry,
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance,
specifically,
our
job
is
to
provide
continuing
input
and
from
a
neighborhood
perspective
to
the
city
council.
When
we
say
city
council,
we
could
also
be
providing
this
perspective
to
planning
commission
they're,
another
committee
that
is
making
decisions
or
recommendations.
Sorry
to
city
council.
B
There
are
four
different
things
that
we
outline
in
the
code
as
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance
purpose.
The
first
is
that
recommendations,
as
requested
by
council.
Those
are
things
that
we're.
We
are
giving
council
recommendations
as
they
review
plans,
ordinances
policies
and
so
a
lot
of
what
our
schedule
or
agendas
look
like
is
dependent
on
what
council
is
talking
about
at
the
time,
our
other,
the
the
second,
I
guess,
action
that
we
do
is
to
input
and
provide
input
to
the
council
on
recommendations
and
needs
of
our
constituents.
B
A
Sure
hi
everyone
megan
perkins.
I
am
a
member
of
the
summit
west
neighborhood
and
I
also
moved
here
in
2018,
so
we
must
have
had
a
big
influx
you're
right
yeah.
I
mean,
I
think,
the
way
that
I
see
you
know
the
the
relationship
between
the
committees
and
the
council
is
that
it's
just
a
way
of
of
passing
information
back
and
forth,
we're
there
to
educate
each
other.
A
I
generally
can't
speak
for
the
entire
council,
because
I'm
one
member
of
council
but,
more
importantly,
I
think
that
I'm
there
to
listen
and
support
and
then
report
back
to
council
about
what
the
nla
is
doing,
how
the
nla
is
feeling
what
direction
the
nla
is
going.
So
that's
sort
of
how
the
liaison
process
works
and
I
think
that's
all
I
had
and
achille
you've
said
it
all.
B
Thanks
megan,
yes,
so
we
have
there.
There
is
a
way
to
bring
issues
to
council
every
meeting
on
our
agenda.
We
have
an
opportunity
for
what
we
call
the
rep
reports,
and
that
gives
everyone
about
two
minutes
to
provide
a
synopsis
of
like
this
is
what's
happening
at
our
neighborhood.
This
is
the
concerns
we're
hearing.
B
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
we
talk
about
this
item
at
an
upcoming
meeting
and
there's
opportunity
for
you
to
bring
that
to
the
table
at
every
single
meeting
and
the
other
there's
a
actual
rep
report
form
that's
in
your
handbook.
So
if
you
need
like
a
guidance
on
what
kind
of
things
to
bring
that's
a
really
good
guide
for
you
can
fill
that
out
before
the
meeting
and
then
use
it.
As
your
rep
report.
B
So
there's
a
couple
of
opportunities:
well,
a
couple
more
than
a
couple
of
opportunities
that
we
have
to
provide
input.
One
specifically
is
a
bi-annual
occurrence,
and
that
is
our
council
goals.
So,
every
two
years
the
council
will
select
their
goals
that
they're
going
to
be
focusing
on
and
they
do
that
through
a
lot
of
community
input,
so
they
are
looking
at
what
is
the
community
saying
through
surveys
and
they're
asking
they
have
an
open
listening
session
where
community
groups,
including
neighborhood
associations,
can
come
and
say.
B
B
But
I
wanted
to
call
out
some
of
the
items
that
really
were
suggested
by
neighborhood
associations
or
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance
and
were
specifically
put
into
the
council
goals
for
this
year.
So
one
of
those
items
being
the
bend
tree
code-
and
we
talked
if
we
heard
a
lot
from
the
community
that
we
wanted
to
re-look
at
our
tree
code
and
make
sure
that
we
were
preventing
clear
cutting
as
much
as
we
could,
with
new
developments
and
saving
very
significant
trees
and
that
project
has
yet
to
be
started.
B
B
A
lot
of
neighborhoods
are
focusing
on
firewise
programs
and
making
sure
that
we're
limiting
our
wildfire
risk,
and
so
this
was
something
that
they
wanted
to
be
included
in
council
goals,
the
fireworks
ban
that
has
actually
already
happened.
So
at
the
beginning
of
this
biennium.
We
that
was
something
that
was
suggested
by
neighborhoods.
B
B
And
then,
throughout
the
year
and
as
these
goals
are
being
like
are
actually
going
through,
council
and
the
changes
are
happening,
the
nla
has
an
opportunity
to
be
a
part
of
that.
So
this
is
just
debate.
Oh
nope
didn't
turn
here
we
go
this
in
front
of.
You
is
just
a
basic
flow
chart
of
how
policy
making
can
work.
B
It
is
one
of
several
examples,
and
but
you
can
kind
of
follow
the
progression
of
the
neighborhood
associations
providing
input
to
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance
and
then
you'll
see
we
have
a
lot
of
opportunities
and
there's
council
goals.
Check-Ins.
There
are
work
sessions
with
planning,
commission
and
city
council
depending
on
the
project.
There
might
be
round
tables
or
listening
sessions.
That's
something
that
we're
looking
at
coming
up
and
at
most
of
those,
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance
is
invited
to
participate.
B
In
your
book,
the
handbook
that
I
gave
you
there's
this
chart
outlined,
and
then
it
also
has
two
examples
of
how
that
conduit
has
worked.
So
if
you
wanted
to
like
follow
the
steps
of
like
this
is
what
we're
actually
seeing
and
how
the
the
policy
making
process
worked
in
this
case,
then
that's
a
good
good
one
to
flip
to.
B
I
wanted
to
put
this
in
there
too,
the
response
to
advisory
input.
I
think
that,
as
advisory
council
members,
we
have
a
really
close
relationship
with
our
city
council,
especially
considering
megan
is
at
our
meetings
and
we
don't
always
get
a
response
and
I
wanna,
like
expectation,
set
right
now
so
neighborhood
leadership
alliance.
We
are
one
of
like
I
said:
12
committees,
that's
giving
input
to
council
and
the
way
the
council
and
planning
commission
respond
is
with
the
changes
that
they
make
to
the
code,
policies
or
programs.
B
So
you,
you
might
not
get
a
direct
like
thank
you
in
la.
We
are
going
to
do
this
this
and
this
from
your
suggestions,
but
you
will
see
those
results
in
the
end
as
the
the
policies
are
made
and
the
code
comes
out.
So
I
try
to
keep
in
you
informed
of
what
those
changes
are,
so
that
you
can
see
it
happening,
and
I
just
don't
want
you
to
expect
a
direct
response
by
me.
A
Can
I
button
michaela
sure
can
or
collab
collaboratively
overlap?
According
to
my
new
favorite
show,
which
I
thought
was
so
funny
yeah,
I
mean
I
think
you
could
like
as
an
example
for
the
shelter
code.
I
think
there
were
three
items.
The
nla
sent
a
letter
to
council
with
three
things
that
they
wanted
to
see
amended
in
the
shelter
code
and
two
of
the
three
things
were
included
in
the
final
shelter
code
package.
So
as
an
example.
B
B
So
if,
at
the
end
of
four
years
you
decide
you
wanna
go
for
another
round,
you're
welcome
to
apply
for
reappointment.
I
did
wanna
just
follow
up
on
a
couple
of
the
action
items
that
I
had
sent.
If
I
haven't
gotten
your
agreements
form,
I
do
need
that
so
I'll
if
you
could
email
it
to
me
before
the
next
meeting.
C
C
B
B
And
then
preferred
contact
information.
If
I
think
I
have
yours
ross
gina,
I
I
don't
know
if
there
is
a
nla,
specific
email
you
wanted
to
use,
we
don't
have
one
yet,
but
we're
trying
to
get
it
set
up.
Okay,
no
problem,
just
when
you
can
get
me
that
info
and
I'll
switch
your
personal
email
out
for
that
in
l.a
and
john,
are
you
using
steve's?
Did
you
get
his
info.
C
B
And
so
chair
status,
you
all
saw
the
update
that
I
sent
out.
I'm
sure
we
currently
do
not
have
a
chair
with
the
nla,
but
we
do
have
a
candidate,
so
morgan
schmidt,
who
has
been
with
us
for
about
a
year
and
a
half
two
years,
she's
stepped
forward
and
offered
to
fill
the
position
of
interim
chairperson
through
january.
So
we
typically
hold
elections
in
january
every
year
to
get
to
for
the
committee
to
nominate
a
chair
and
a
vice
chair,
and
this
one.
B
Our
summer
sears
was
the
former
chair
who
had
decided
to
step
down
before
her
term
ended
so
morgan's
going
to
fill
in
until
january,
she's,
not
really
sure
she's
running
for
county
commissioner,
as
you
might
have
seen
so,
depending
on
how
the
election
goes.
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
will
continue
or
not,
but
I'd
encourage
you
all.
It's
never
too
soon
to
take
a
leadership
role
within
the
neighborhood
leadership
alliance.
B
I
think
fresh
perspectives
are
great
and
I
do
a
lot
of
work
for
you
so
that
it's
really
easy
just
putting
the
plug-in
now
but
yeah.
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
we
do
plan
on
having
a
september
13th
meeting
and
we
will
do
nominations
and
a
vote
at
that
meeting,
whether
it's
morgan
that
we
vote
on
and
put
into
that
chair
position,
I'm
just
glad
that
we
do
have
a
candidate.
So
we
can
continue
meeting
john.
C
B
D
Thanks
makayla
I've
been
working
on
a
separate,
unrelated
powerpoint
all
day
and
I'm
going
to
watch
michaela's
face.
As
I
say
this,
I
have
a
powerpoint
open
on
public
meetings
in
public
records
law,
but
I
would
kind
of
love
to
just
talk
about
it
unless
anybody
really
needs
to
see
another
powerpoint,
and
so
so
let
let's
try
that
seeing
no
super
strong
objections.
So
let
me
start
with
public
meetings.
So
oregon
has
these
two
bodies
of
law,
and
these
are
in
state
statute.
D
There's
the
public
meetings
law
and
the
public
records
law.
They
are
related,
but
separate
and
distinct.
So
we'll
talk
about
them
separately
and
start
with
public
meetings,
and
I
think
it's
useful
to
think
about
the
general
idea
behind
why
oregon
and
every
other
state,
I
think,
has
a
public
meetings
law
or
an
equivalent.
D
It
is
essentially
to
make
sure
that
the
proverbial
backroom
negotiations
and
decision
making
don't
happen
in
the
public
sector,
because
people
in
a
community
members
of
the
public
have
a
right
to
see
and
have
some
understanding
as
to
how
decisions
get
hashed
out,
debated
and
ultimately
reached.
So
what
the
public
meetings
law
is
at
its
core
and
what
it
does
is
require
that
bodies
that
are
subject
to
the
law,
which
is
something
we'll
talk
about,
do
I'll,
say
the
vast
majority
of
their
debating
deliberating
and
decision
making
in
a
properly
noticed
public
meeting.
D
But
it
really
should
happen
in
a
public
meeting,
because
if
it's
in
a
public
meeting
it's
accessible
to
the
public,
people
can
watch,
people
can
attend,
minutes
are
taken,
recordings
are
taken
and
people
who
are
interested
can
watch
and
see
how
their
policy
makers
in
the
people
in
elected
office
and
the
people
that
those
in
elected
office
appoint
to
these
positions
think
through
all
of
the
considerations
that
lead
to
a
decision.
So
that's
why
we
have
this.
D
We
have
this
so
that
decisions
that
impact
the
public
don't
get
made
outside
of
the
public
view.
So
there
are
some
exceptions
in
the
public
meetings
law
that
allow
some
governing
bodies,
for
particular
limited
purposes
to
meet
in
private,
but
the
baseline
that
is
required
by
the
law
is
that
if
a
governing
body
of
a
public
body
which
surprise
includes
the
nla
is
deliberating
towards
the
decision
or
making
a
decision,
it
needs
to
happen
in
a
public
meeting.
D
All
of
that
legwork
is
mostly
to
comply
with
the
public
meetings
law
so
that
the
community
can
see
what
groups
like
this
is
are
are
doing
and
in
terms
of
the
applicability
of
the
law.
I
think
we
generally
think
about
the
public
meetings
law
applying
to
the
group
that
we
think
of
as
the
governing
body
and
in
the
city's
governance
structure.
D
That's
the
city
council,
it's
clear
that
the
public
meetings
law
applies
to
the
city
council,
but
it
also
applies
to
every
group
that
state
law
defines
as
a
governing
body
of
a
public
body
and
governing
bodies
of
public
bodies
include
advisory
bodies
like
the
nla,
the
planning
commission,
the
environment
and
climate
committee,
the
human
rights
and
equity
commission,
the
bend
economic
development
advisory
board.
All
of
those
standing
committees
that
were
on
one
of
michaela
slides,
are
considered
governing
bodies
of
public
bodies
under
the
statute
and
they're
all
subject
to
the
public
meetings
law.
So
that's.
D
D
D
Pre-Pandemic
is
a
meeting
the
law
and
the
courts
that
have
interpreted
the
law
in
oregon
have
also
said
that
something
like
a
text
chain
or
an
email
thread
that
has
a
bunch
of
people
on
it,
can
constitute
a
meeting
courts
will
call
it
a
virtual
meeting
or
a
serial
meeting
so
think
about
it.
We
have
this
law
that
says
you've
got
to
do
your
deliberation
and
decision
making
in
public
we,
the
law
was
written
years
and
years
ago
before
email.
Now
we
have
email.
D
One
of
you
could
email
another
noa
member
and
say
what
do
you
think
about
this
thing
on
our
upcoming
agenda?
That
person
could
then
forward
it
to
two
other
nla
members.
One
of
them
could
forward
it
to
someone
else.
All
of
a
sudden.
You
have
this
chain
of
information
bouncing
around
before
you
know
it.
The
majority
of
the
members
of
the
public
body
and
they're
all
effectively
discussing
communicating
trading
information
you're
doing
all
the
things
you
would
do
in
a
meeting
in
person
electronically.
D
So
what
the
courts
have
said
is
we
need
to
be
very,
very
careful
about
how
members
of
our
boards
and
committees
communicate
with
each
other,
because
you
can
sort
of
inadvertently
create
a
meeting
through
email
outside
of
a
public
meeting.
So
when
we
say
you
will
hear
michaela
or
you
will
sometimes
hear
me
say
if
you
have
questions
about,
let's
say
something
that
happened
at
a
meeting
or,
let's
say
something:
that's
coming
up
on
a
meeting
agenda.
D
Ask
staff
email
michaela.
If
you
have
a
question,
try
to
avoid
emailing
the
whole
group,
because
before
you
know
it,
people
are
starting
to
chime
in
and
I
the
lawyer,
I'm
sitting
there
thinking.
Oh,
my
god,
we
have
an
inadvertent
public
meeting
that
no
one
knows
about,
because
no
one
is
watching
this
happen
in
real
time
like
they
can,
if
they're
invited
to
a
meeting
or
they
can
attend
on
zoom.
So
that's
where
some
of
that
advice
comes
from.
D
Okay,
if
any
questions
come
up
as
you're
going
about
your
daily
life,
always
ask
michaela.
If
there's
a
legal
issue,
she
can
run
it
by
me,
so
public
records,
the
other
part
of
this,
so
oregon
law
defines
public
records.
What
they
are
there's
a
very
long
definition.
It
essentially
says
it
says
any
writing.
That's
created
in
the
conduct
of
the
public's
business
as
a
public
record.
D
What
that
really
means
and
the
definition
of
the
statute
fleshes
it
out
is
to
say
essentially
anything
that's
created
in
the
course
of
doing
the
work
of
the
public
is
a
public
record
that
includes
these
notes,
which
you
can't
really
see.
There
are
some
notes
there
that
I've
written
these
are
a
public
record.
D
D
D
So,
for
all
of
you,
if
any
of
you
are
taking
notes
during
this
meeting
about
michaela's
great
points
or
things,
I'm
saying
you're,
creating
public
records
that
joe
schmoe
in
tallahassee,
if
he
gets
interested,
can
ask
for
and
under
most
circumstances,
he's
going
to
get
and
that's
not
meant
to
be
daunting
or
discouraging.
But
I
I
just
want
to
create
awareness,
because
creating
public
records
is
not
bad.
I
mean
we
create
gazillions
of
public
records
every
week
in
local
government.
The
vast
majority
of
them
are
available
to
anyone
who
asks
for
them.
D
They
don't
have
to
have
a
reason,
there's
no
sort
of
relevance
objection.
You
know
if
joe
shmoe
from
tallahassee
who's
never
been
to
oregon,
never
been
to
bend,
but
if
he
gets
interested
in
the
city
of
ben's
neighborhood
leadership
alliance
that
submits
a
public
records
request,
he
isn't
as
entitled
to
those
records
as
a
bend
resident.
Who
has
a
deep,
long-standing
interest
in
local
bend,
neighborhood
issues,
so
everybody
is
more
or
less
every
requester
is
more
or
less
equal,
and
almost
everything
we
create
is
a
public
record
subject
to
disclosure.
D
If
and
when
somebody
asks
for
it,
there
are
certain
exemptions
in
the
public
records
law
that
a
city
might
say.
You
know
requester
you've
asked
for
this
particular
record,
there's
something
in
the
statute
that
says
I
don't
have
to
give
that
type
of
record
to
you,
or
at
least
I
I
may
not
have
to
give
that
type
of
record
to
you
and
that's
fine.
D
They
don't
need
to
be
anyone,
there's
no
relevance,
there's
no
connection
that
is
necessary
if
they
ask
for
it
they're
going
to
get
it,
and
almost
everything
we
create
is
a
public
record.
So
the
reason
I'm
mentioning
this
to
you
is
that
because
the
device
or
the
platform
used
to
create
or
transmit
the
record
really
isn't
important
in
the
eyes
of
the
law.
D
So
all
of
you
probably
have
a
smartphone
and
if
john,
if
you
send
a
text
to
ross
after
the
meeting-
and
you
say-
hey
what'd-
you
think
of
that
meeting-
pretty
cool
information
from
michaela
totally
fine
to
do.
But
you
are
creating
a
public
record
and
if
somebody
submits
a
request
tomorrow
and
says
I
I
would
like
any
texts
between
ross
and
john,
the
new
nla
members
dealing
with
nla
business.
We're
going
to
ask
you:
do
you
have
anything?
That's
responsive
and
you
being
upstanding,
people
are
going
to
say.
D
Yeah
we've
got
this
text
exchange,
but
it
was
totally
innocuous.
It
was
what
did
you
think
about
that
cool
meeting
and
we're
going
to
say?
Okay,
that's
that's!
Probably
a
public
record,
that's
probably
responsive
to
this
request.
Can
you
send
us
a
copy
of
the
text
message
because
joe
from
tallahassee
has
asked
for
it?
So
this
is
another
way
of
saying
be
mindful
of
how
you're
communicating
and
what
you're
creating,
because
again,
it's
not
bad
to
create
public
records.
D
I
mean
we
have
public
records
and
we
have
to
retain
them,
because
the
public
has
an
interest
and
a
right
I'll
say
it's
not
an
unlimited
right,
but
a
very
deep-seated
right
to
have
a
window
into
what
government
is
doing.
But
almost
everything
we
create
is
a
public
record
that
could
be
disclosed
if
somebody
asks
for
it
so
be
just
be.
D
D
I
I
don't
like
situations
we
haven't
had
one
recently
in
bend,
but
they
have
occurred
in
other
cities
across
the
country
where
some
public
official,
whether
they're
a
staff
person
like
me
or
an
elected
official
like
councilor
perkins
or
a
volunteer
like
you,
has
used
their
their
regular
gmail
account
for
public
business
and
then
a
public
record
request
comes
in
and
it
doesn't
take
too
many
steps
until
some
court
is
saying
I
need
access
to
that
person's
gmail
account,
and
that
is
never
a
scenario
we
want
to
be
in.
We
you're
much
better
off.
D
West.Noa.Hotmail.Com
or
whatever-
and
you
can
say
you
can
have
that
because
that's
not
my
personal
stuff,
it's
it's
just
my
city
stuff,
so
go
there.
That's
where
I
do
all
of
my
nla
business,
so
very,
very,
very
good
advice
to
have
an
nla,
specific
email.
So
any
questions
you
have
for
michaela
you'll
use
that
for
that's
the
email
address
that
michaela
will
have
to
do
all
in
la
business.
That
is
a
great
way
to
keep
things
relatively
compartmentalized.
D
If
we
end
up
in
a
public
records
issue-
and
I
will
say
so
far-
I
can't
believe
I'm
gonna
say
this
out
loud
so
far.
I
don't
think
we've
had
a
really
pointed
public
records
request
for
nla
members,
text,
messages
or
emails,
but
the
day
will
come
like
the
the
day
will
come
because
we
do
get.
We
do
get
public
records,
requests
for
city
emails,
sometimes
for
city
staff
and
city
council
member
text
messages,
sometimes
for
on
a
certain
topic.
If
there's
something
that
is
of
tremendous
public
interest
at
any
given
time.
D
D
This
aspect
of
your
life,
I
think
you'll,
be
happier
when
and
if
that
request,
or
that
thing
does
finally
erupt
and
joe
from
tallahassee
or
or
somebody
local.
If
nla
is
dealing
with
a
controversial
issue,
which
is,
of
course,
the
more
probable
reality
if
somebody
local
gets
interested
and
wants
to
know
what
nla
members
are
saying
to
each
other
or
texting
to
each
other
behind
the
scenes
about
you
know,
issue
x,
I
mean
the
best
answer.
Is
I
don't
have
any
texts?
D
B
B
Okay,
all
right
so
for
today
that's
pretty
much
it.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
give
the
lay
the
foundation
for
what
the
nla
is
where
we
came
from
and-
and
tomorrow
we're
going
to
talk
about
where
we're
headed.
So
we'll
we'll
talk
about
the
strategic
plan
that
the
nla
is
currently
tackling
and
the
action
items
that
we
have
and
hopefully
get
into
some
of
the
actual
work
that
the
committee
is
doing
so.
A
C
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
apologize
to
you
all
that
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
make
the
meeting
tomorrow.
It's
my
son's
birthday
and
I
have
some
obligations
for
him
with
his
activities
and
and
what's
going
on
with
his
birthday,
but
I'll
watch
the
the
meeting
on
recording
so
just
to
let
you
all
know
that,
but
I
look
forward
to
meeting
with
you
all
in
the
future.
Thanks
thanks
john.