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A
C
A
D
Me
report
for
the
mayor
until
he's
here
before
you
at
your
place.
They'll,
you
should
have
a
book
that
we'll
use
to
guide
you
through
the
next
couple
of
weeks
of
budget
meetings.
I
think
this
is
what
we
tried
to
do
a
couple
years
back
and
I.
Think
it's
a
little
smoother
I
guess
gives
you
a
chance
to
carry
that
over
now.
D
We
realize
you're
just
getting
these
numbers
today,
but
in
the
schedule
that
the
revised
schedule
I
put
at
your
place
earlier
shows
that
we
have
a
workshop
today
and
we
have
a
workshop,
the
following
Tuesday
for
the
same
topic.
So
so,
if
we
don't
get
into
the
detail
today
that
you
you
need,
we've
got
another
meeting
next
meeting,
also
for
the
same
topic.
What
we're
going
to
go
through
today
is
I'm
going
to
start
with
Revenue.
D
I
think
the
important
thing
is
to
to
look
look
in
your
book
at
that
Revenue
tab.
Look
at
our
budget
for
this
year.
Our
revised
budget
for
this
year
in
the
percentage
collected
so
far
today
to
date
and
each
of
those
periods
and
I
think
I
would
really
pay
attention
to
the
big
hitters
and
then
then
you'll
see
our
2023
forecasted
Revenue
that
we're
going
to
end
up
with
and
then
the
projected
2024
Revenue,
and
you
see
that
bottom
column,
that
kind
that
adds
up
to
72
million.
D
A
Start
we'll
start
on
this
end:
Mr
glavin.
C
C
B
This,
this
is
just
a
formatting
question.
If,
if
you
look
at
the
next
next
tab
as
an
example,
which
is
departmental
summary.
B
Think
last
year
was
the
first
year
we
just
got
a
list
of
Revenue
sources
from
the
the
largest
Heavy
Hitters,
all
the
way
down
to
the
folks
at
the
low
end
of
the
revenue,
totem
pole,
but
I'd
like
it
I'd
like
I,
don't
know
if
the
other
council
members
would
like
in
that
format,
but
it
would
help
me
to
get
a
better
picture
historically
and
what
we've
done
in
the
past
and
what
we're
looking
at
this
year,
if
it
was
formatted
in
that
manner,
is
that
a
gargantuan
task
to
do
or
and
I'd
like
hair
plug
donors?
B
G
F
000.,
so
we
and
we
adjusted
to
look
like
the
320.
G
F
H
Y'all
know
me,
you
know
there
are
some
challenges,
we've
had
you
know
with
the
court
system
in
the
way
you
know
the
the
tickets
and
and
some
of
the
other
fine
operations.
H
On
what
you
know
from
the
judges
aspect
that
gives
people
attention,
you
know
at
this
point
in
time
they,
the
folks
who
are
fine.
You
know,
really
have
an
incentive
to
to
pay
those
fans,
and
that's
why
you
know
it's
been.
E
H
But
we're
working
pretty
I
think
within
the
next
two
or
three
months,
we'll
understand
where
our
Position
will
be
we'll
be
able
to
better
able
to
prediction
right
now.
I
think
Diane
has
been
very
conservative
and
it
won't
be,
you
know,
will
be
pleasantly
surprised.
Not
you
know
not
the
other
way
around.
So.
H
G
H
The
jail
officials
and
the
state
people,
you
know,
there's
been
some
opportunities
to
work
with
the
state
on
how
much
you
know
they
receive
you
know
of
whatever.
E
Fines
are
paid,
but
it's.
F
That
the
new
upcoming
election
and
everything
and
make
that,
but
they
open
up
more
people.
G
H
H
H
We're
doing
right
now,
let
me
give
you
a
real
example:
I
think
the
state
you
know
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
charges
for
State
prisoners,
twenty.
H
And
so
our
our
jail
system
is
doing
it.
H
G
Points
something
percent
of
the
beds
that
are
ready
for
you
know
for
those
folks.
He
said
we're
pushing
that.
H
Got
you
know
got
some
balls
moving
with
regard
to
moving
State
prisoners
back
to
their.
H
Results
when
it
comes
to
being
able
to
you
know,
give
folks
consequences
about
not
paying
fines
and
multiple
offenses
and
so
forth.
I
think
the
big.
E
H
Know
the
Harrison
County
folks,
so
once
it's
decreed,
we
don't
want
frequent
flyers
and
frequent
flyers.
E
F
D
C
I
I
have
a
couple
wide.
Councilman
Lawrence
is
looking
over.
A
G
B
A
If
I'm
looking
at
this
correctly
last
year,
we
did
a
through
Public
Works,
we
did
806
000
in
contractual
Services
we're
opening
that
to
8.96
this
year.
Is
that
correct?
It's
on
page
three,
underneath
the
Public
Works
tab
at
the
very
bottom
line:
zero
one
six
one
one.
A
I
A
So
what
I
would
like
to
see
I
would
like,
because
this
is
something
especially
with
us,
seeing
the
shortages
that
we're
seeing
in
Manpower
and
public
works.
I
would
like
to
see
a
breakdown
of
contractual
Services,
because
this
is
something
if
we
don't
have
enough
in
there
to
get
some
of
these
projects
done.
I
think
that
that's
we
need
to
look
at
some
adjustments
there.
A
As
far
as
our
our
ditches
and
things
of
that
matter,
that
that
we
just
don't
have
enough
manpower
to
keep
up
with
right
now.
So
if
I
can
get
a
breakdown
of
the
the
contractual
Services
what
they
are
and
then
what
portion
of
that
is
actually
going
to
hiring
companies
outside
companies
to
do
some
of
these
jobs
that
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
do
right
now,.
D
Point,
that
top
engineering-
what's
your
what's
your
bottom
line
on
bottom
to
top
expenditure,
so
far,
1.6.
G
I
A
Can
we
get
a
breakdown?
What
my
point
is:
I
just
want
to
see
what
we're
going
to
have
available
to
hire
these
companies
for
these
outside
jobs
that
we're
not
because
we
we
I
mean
it's.
It
I
know
it's
the
elephant
in
the
room,
but
we
have
a
problem
with
Manpower
and
public
works,
and
and
it's
it's
something
if
we
can't
get
the
Manpower,
we
have
to
find
a
way
to
address
this
I
believe
the
answer
is
through
is
is
through.
A
A
H
That
that
approach
and
we're
100
in
sync
with
you
but
we're
going
to
reach
out
not
just
bottom
of
the
top.
You
know
some
of
the
normal
services
that
we
provide,
but
some
very
specific,
ditch
you
know,
capacity
to
you
know
to
clean
these
things
and
perform
in
a
timely
way.
So,
while
I'm
making
some
inquiries
into
some,
you
know
non-traditional
service
companies.
They
could
provide
that
like
Contracting
companies,
okay,.
E
You
clearly
grub
those
those
things
and,
and
so
we're
gonna.
H
H
That's
just
the
balance
of
people
on
you
know
on
board
versus
overtime
with
people
who
want
to
work
so
I
mean
there's
a
a
delicate
kind
of
you
know.
Go
outside.
Do
I,
do
stress.
You
know
our
folks
a
little
bit
more
than
those
they'll
be
you
know
so
many
people
that
want
to
do
they
work
as
much.
You
know
if
you
make
money
shoveling
oysters,
you
want
to
shovel
as
many
oysters
as
you
can.
That's
good
and
so
I
think.
H
That's
the
approach
we're
taking
outside
versus
over
overtime
versus
on
staff,
people,
okay,.
E
Yeah
we'll
go
to
Mr
Deming,
well,
I
I
think
it
was
2015,
it
might
have
been
your
first
term
or
if
or
your
first
year
or
your
first
term,
it
may
have
been
the
next
year,
but
we
talked
about
this
in
the
budget
sessions
and
and
I.
Think
after
that
first
year,
Mike
came
to
me
after
a
meeting
and
said
you
know
what
we
saved.
We
went
to
this
contractual
Services
Program.
E
We
saved
a
quarter
of
a
million
dollars
that
first
year
and
he
said,
look
we're
going
to
try
to
expand
that
and
go
to
do.
Do
more
and
apparently
we
have
and
I
think
what
we
want
to
see
is
a
capitalized
budget
that
shows
how
we're
going
to
grow
this
and
what
we're
able
to
grow.
This
too
I
know
we
have
some
restrictions
on
some
things
that
private
companies
can't
do
that
only
the
city
can
do.
E
Is
there
any
way
to
get
a
breakdown
of
those
services
that
that
we
can
provide
right
through
contractual
Services
versus.
H
D
Know
and
mayor
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
engineering
would
back
me
up
on
this
in
public
works
as
well.
We've
got
one
comp,
one
company,
that's
doing
a
million
and
a
half
dollars
worth
of
work.
We
really
need
multiple
companies
right
because
we're
we're
overworking
the
one
company
we've
got.
H
Well,
it's
it's
been,
you
know
the
amount
of
resources
they
can
dedicate.
You
know
some
things
you
can
do
in
a
better
time
of
year,
based
on
other.
You
know
other
companies
being
able
to
have
some
excess
capacity
that
they
want
to
fill
with
service.
So
we
may
be
able
to
do
some
timing
of
what
we
got
to
do.
Ditch
cleaning
you
know
other
things
that
can
be
done.
You.
D
Know
I
mentioned
in
an
earlier
meeting
that
I
serve
on
the
development
commission
and
the
development
commission
has
a
lot
of
ditches
in
their
in
their
work
areas
and
they
have
a
ditch
cleaning
contract
that
we've
obtained
in
the
last
24
hours
that
Keith
Christie's
working
on
putting
that
putting
that
something
together
for
for
us,
yeah.
F
D
We
can
order
ditches
by
the
lineal
foot
and
we
just
need
to
get
a
good
scope
of
work.
So
we've
got
a
nice
tight
contract.
I.
Just
think
that
if.
A
I
just
think
if
we
can
get
and
get
our
get
wrapped
around
this
issue.
This
is
the
main
thing
and
speaking
for
me
and
I'm
sure
that
the
rest
of
the
councilmen
will
agree
with
me.
This
is
the
main
issue
that
we
have
and
the
the
biggest
concern
that
we
have
from
our
constituents
is
this,
and
you
know
that
that
should
be
our
first
job
is
taking
care
of
our
constituents.
A
So
I
believe
that
that
whatever
we
have
to
do
this
budget
year,
we
need
to
get
it
right
if
it
takes
a
little
bit
of
time.
So
be
it,
but
we
need
to
get
it
right
to
where
we,
you
know,
make
sure
that
going
forward
we're
able
to
take
care
of
these
ditches
and
the
roads
and
stuff-
and
you
know
a
combination
of
our
guys
and
and
other
people
I
think,
is
the
answer
to
that
and
if
there's
nothing
else
on
this
I
think
that
George
probably
has
about
30
seconds
left.
So
on.
F
H
Right
and
as
we're
looking
at
every
angle,
how
we
can
you
know
maximize
the
impact
and
minimize
the
cost
yeah,
you
know
I
think
they're
a
little
bit
of
hustle
In,
Those
ads
and
we're
trying
to
you
know
in
this
in
this
cycle
figure
out,
what's
the
best
bang
for
the
buck
as
far
as
paperweight
number
of
of
pages,
the
distribution,
those
kinds
of
things,
but
you
know,
of
course
the
revenue
is
a
big
part
of
it
that
you
know
you
look
at
I,
don't
know
how
many
pages
John,
but
you
know
it's
all
part
of
you
know
the
game
plan.
G
H
Think
you
know
the
offset
and
two
things
hurricane
season
as
well
as
water
quality.
That's
what
we
have
to
do
before
B
news.
We
had
to
do
that
and
they
cost
x
amount
of
dollars
and
that
cost
is
probably
expanded.
You
know
if
we
had
to
do
it
alone,
but
you
know
if
you
can
offset
it
with
some
some
advertisement
and
you
know
different
ways.
We
need
to
look
at
every
angle,
but
I,
you
know
nobody's
on
the
phone
24
hours
a
day
trying
to
sell
their
heads,
but
you
know
we.
F
A
D
A
G
A
People
yeah
per
stop.
You
had
these
people
that
go
out,
and
they
just
put
these
massive
mounds
of
trash
out
there
and
expect
them
to
come
and
fill
their
the
entire
truck
up
with
what
they
put
out
by
the
road
and
so
I
think
that
you
know
a
constant
reminder
that
that
eight
cubic
yards
per
pick
per
week
is
all
they're
going
to
get
picked
up
and
so
encourage
them
to
put
it
out
there
in
phases,
instead
of
all
at
one
time.
G
The
street
they
put
it
in
bake
a
lot
and
sometimes
he
gets
missed.
But
you
know
they
were
good
in
putting
some
notifications
on
why
it's
still
there,
but
if
they
know
the
account
and
where
the
trash
can
is-
and
you
can
see
a
power
break
from
where
that.
A
J
C
Short-Term
rental,
it's
basically
zeroed
out
and
it
had
close
to
I,
can't
remember
the
number.
G
There's
increases
in
sales,
tax
rebate.
C
Avalorian
taxes,
personal
property
tax,
but
there's
no
increase
for
gaming
and
and
you.
C
G
G
We're
hitting
we're
almost
hitting
the
forecast
according
to.
H
Don't
want
to
go
way
out
on
a
limb,
but
you
know
it:
all
indications
are
are
favorable
and
you
know
yeah.
C
F
H
Got
a
list
of
208
000.
What
do
you
have
consolidate,
I'm,
not
sure
Peter?
I
G
F
H
G
F
D
I
didn't
mean
to
jump
around
quite
as
much,
but
one
of
the
things
that
Mr
Mayor
was
suggesting
earlier
was
you
know
the
shortage
of
people
and.
D
D
In
bodies
with
equipment,
it's
a
pretty
substantial
list
of
equipment
there
and
it's
my
department,
so
you
can
see
which
department
was
getting
and
I'm
sure
you'll.
When
we
meet
next.
You
may
have
some
questions
about
some
of
that
equipment.
So
yeah.
A
A
H
J
G
A
F
J
D
D
D
G
With
with.
D
G
K
C
G
Using
some.
K
Speak
to
that
before
we
get
into
your
budget
absolutely
so,
as
you
know,
the
price
of
vehicles
has
drastically
gone
up
and
then
the
availability
of
vehicles
for
the
last
few
years
has
been
very
difficult.
We've
not
been
able
to
buy
vehicles
one
year
we
didn't
buy
any
vehicles
at
all,
so
that
that's
kind
of.
E
K
Us
in
a
position
now
we've
hired
some
new
people
and
here
very
soon
we're
not
going
to
have
enough
vehicles
to
for
officers
to
to
get
in,
and
the
fleet
that
we
have
is
aging.
We
usually
buy
10
or
12
a
year.
Maybe
15
we've
done
that
a
couple
of
years,
but
they're
aging
they're
costing
money
now
to
keep
them
running.
We've.
K
That
we
can,
and
some
of
the
vehicles
are
right,
should
not
be
used
on
a
regular
basis
and
we
try
to
reserve
those
vehicles
for
the
officers
that
we
bring
in
from
out
of
town
to
work,
big
events.
K
We
have
to
put
them
in
a
vehicle
also,
so
we've
tried
to
try
to
reserve
those
Vehicles,
so
they're,
not
driven
all
the
time,
just
driven
when
there's
somebody
here
so
in
the
budget
today,
you'll
see
I,
think
there's
29
Vehicles,
not
counting
two
ATVs,
that's
the
most
Vehicles
we've
ever
asked
for,
and
that's
that
accounts
for
a
huge
part
of
the
capital
items
that
you
see
so.
K
So
we're
still
going
to
have
to
use
some
outdated
vehicles,
but
that
will
get
us.
G
D
D
C
G
C
K
So
what
we
did
this
year,
we
just
looked
at
the
vehicles
we
know
are
not
going
to
be
operational
next
year,
are
the
ones
that
we
feel
like
we
don't
need
to
operate
on
a
daily
basis.
Like
I
said
before,
that's
where
we
came
up
with
the
29
vehicles.
This
certainly
won't
give
us
an
an.
A
Quick
question
so
I
see
you're.
Basically,
jumping
three
million
dollars
in
budget
is
most
of
that.
Just
what.
A
Million
dollar
increase
is,
is
going
to
be
in
vehicles
and
yeah.
K
K
G
A
A
K
B
F
G
F
K
000
and
then
you're,
looking
at
probably
another
depending
on
where
the
vehicles
go
on
another
25
000
to
outfit.
You
know
with
cage
radar,
yeah.
F
G
F
K
Vehicles
in
there
they've
they
were
there
about
worn
out.
There's
some
a
couple
of
detective
vehicles
in
there
I
think
there's
a
one
for
Narcotics
and
then
the
majority
of
them
work
for
patrol
and
then
there's
two
ATVs.
You.
K
G
B
B
G
Here
lately
in
Ocean,
Springs
bumped
up
there
I
guess
their
initial
pay.
E
K
Worn
officers
and
are
we
close
to
that
or
are
they
we're
a
little
below
Ocean
Springs
and
in
your
your
initial
starting
pay,
we're
a
little
below
okay
insurance.
G
K
The
same
they're,
one
of
the
few
cities
around
that
have
an
insurance
plan
like
we
do.
K
Yeah
in
the
door
where
it's
it's
three
or
four
thousand
dollars
more
in
the
door.
B
B
B
B
I
B
F
A
H
A
A
F
Let's,
let's
move
to
the.
A
Week
with
with
questions
that
we
come
up
with
after
we
reviewed
everything
appreciate.
G
Is
the
the
Capital
Equipment.
D
G
D
Guess
I'll
I'll
jump
you'd
see
that
back
in
the
back
of
your
book
under
under
the
capitol
tab,
little
fire
department,
I.
G
D
D
D
J
G
G
L
G
L
A
budget
just
in
case
we
got
the
grant,
but
those
weren't
filled
Yeah.
So
basically,
we
discussed
this
budget
year
three
to
five
year
plan
of
maintaining
current
minimum
Staffing
levels
and
bringing
our
our
shift
to
to
a
reasonable
level
where
we
can
reduce
some
of
the
overtime
and
then
in
the
following
years.
As
we
go
forward,
trying
to
add
four
to
six
positions,
you.
A
G
L
All
depends
on
where
y'all
want
to
go
with
the
fire
rating,
but
no
optimal
for
our
minimum
Staffing
levels.
Right
now
would
be
anywhere
between
54
to
56
per
shift
right
now,
we're
sitting
at
50
with
four
on
the
line
and
about
to
hire
another.
F
Questions
how
many
well.
L
D
L
D
D
Lot
of
first
year
second
year,
police
and
fire
huge
turnover
and
thankfully.
D
To
to
recruit
both
police
and
fire
better
this
year
than
we
have
in
the
past
is.
A
That
is
that,
because
a
lot
of
people,
retiring
or
people
leaving
to.
L
L
You
know
that
was
99
2000,
we're
in
2023
rolling
into
24..
These
guys
came
from
other
departments,
so.
L
To
retire
I
think
about
a
year
ago,
when
I
came
to
these
budget
means
we
were
about.
33
of
the
entire
department
could
retire
that
day,
I
think
now,
with
some
of
the
roll
off,
because
we've
been
if
Joe
was
in
here,
she
could
attest
to
it.
I
think
we've
got
a
firefighter
calling
her.
L
Retiring,
so
we've
had
a
lot
leave
we've
added
to
a
lot
of
young
guys
and
girls.
So
it's
just
it's.
L
G
D
Now,
both
police
and
fire,
when
they
put
their
budget
together,
included
some
Capital
items
that
we've
pulled
out
and
and
are
putting
into
capital
projects
separate.
Oh.
D
G
Right
in
addition
to
that,
the
police
department,
there
are
two
giant
generators
right
outside.
If
you
visited
there.
D
Right
there
overdue
failing
will
fail,
and
those
are
also
capable
we'll
be
in
capital
projects
in.
D
H
D
Station
number
five,
the
best
guess
we
have
is
a
million
and
a
half
dollars.
That
was
an
estimate
was
done
before
the
works.
F
F
D
It
but
we've
got:
we've
had
a
good
quote
from
Mandel,
so
we
know
it's
going
to
be
any
800
000
to
a
million
dollar
range.
B
L
Pay
we're
we're
comparable.
G
They
run
a
Kelly
day
versus
our
our
system,
so.
L
It's
not
comparing
apples
to
oranges,
but
I
I
speak
with
Chief
McCoy
over
there
quite
a
bit
and
when
they
did
their
their
pay
structure
recently,
I
think
they
got
theirs.
I.
F
L
Recently
but
talked
to
him,
they
actually
got
their
pay
raise
in
February
of
this
year
and
they're.
If
you
compare.
G
Hourly
rates
it's
comparable
now
they
have
a
step.
E
B
K
B
K
B
B
G
B
L
L
Gear
of
course,
everything's
taking
price
increases
gears
roughly
four
thousand
percent,
that's
top
to
bottom
all
their
their
stuff,
not
counting
just
the
the
station
uniforms.
Training
is
roughly
about
1500,
either
send
the
academy
to
do
all
that,
and
then
we
do
an
in-house
EMT.
B
B
So
you
have
paramedics,
do
we
I.
B
E
C
L
L
That's
the
standard
that
we
set.
There
are
two
levels
above
that
advanced.
G
L
Delivered
it's
about
a
one-year
course
at
Gulf.
Coast
paramedic
is
a
two-year
program,
so,
of
course
they
can
utilize
the
tuition
reimbursement
to
pay
for
that,
but
the
paramedic
level
I
do
know,
depending
on
what's
required.
It's
roughly
about
another
3
200
to
5
000
that
there
has
to
pay
out
of
pocket.
L
Pay
to
try
to
compensate
because
several
of
our
neighboring.
B
Cities
and
County.
G
B
G
E
B
B
L
Vacation
or
can
they
pretty
much,
have
some
flexibility
so
typically
how
we
run
it
is
every
November
we
pick
vacation
calendar
goes
out
for
the
for
the
following
year.
You
lock
in
your
vacation.
L
You
know
we
also
have
back
when
I
hired
on
and
we
we
had.
You
know
a.
G
B
Chief
I
recall
Chief,
Miller
I
recall
it
some
point.
We
were
talking
about
I,
guess,
special
events
and
ordinances,
and
you
said
some
of
your
guys.
Hadn't
had
a
day
off
in
22-3
four
days.
G
B
K
B
E
B
K
Right
now
we're
we're
in
at
about
40,
48.59
and
they're
in
it
45
474.
B
Okay,
that's.
D
Other
questions
for
point
out
a
couple
of
things:
we
don't
miss
them
in
Under,
Fire
under.
B
G
B
B
G
I
just
had
two
short
questions:
it
should
take
less
than
a
minute
gr,
158
Professional
Services.
What
is.
L
F
So
that
is
a
program.
It's.
L
000
to
develop
a
basically
a
mental
health
Grant
is
what
it
was
and
we
partnered
with
friends
of
firefighters,
out
of
the
Bronx
in
New
York.
It
took
a
while
to
get
off
the
ground
and
get
moving,
because
you
know,
of
course,
counselors
had
to
get
certified
in
Mississippi.
That.
L
C
Second
question:
this
budget:
I
know
you
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
it.
Will
this
be
enough
to
give
you
all
the
resources
you
need
to
maintain
our
number
two
fire
rating.
L
L
To
do
it,
yeah
I
have
full
comments
where
we're.
D
Maintaining
that
level
two
rating,
if
the?
What
would
you
tell
me,
which
month
they're
coming
in
sir
certify
you
what
month,
it
is.
L
It's
an
Excel
spreadsheet
form
and
it
has
it
looks
like
the
budget
it.
It's
got,
multiple
tabs
addressing.
C
L
The
the
big,
the
big
things
that
net
us,
the
most
points
is
our
the
infrastructure
work.
That's
going
on.
F
L
Complete
that
should
add
to
giving
us
better
water.
You
know
bigger
diameter
lines.
F
C
In
the
state
and
what.
G
That
does
is
reduce
insurance
rates
for
commercial.
D
Businesses
and
residents,
so
that's
important.
D
G
F
L
Many
years
so
the
the
the
two
that
he
referred
to,
we
got
in
2020,
we
should
have
roughly.
It
was
that
seven
year
that
was
before
my.
L
That
oh
correct
in
saying
that
and
then
we
just
received
the
three.
G
So
I
think
we
made
one
payment
on
that.
So.
D
G
B
K
K
Very
difficult
to
find
anybody
that
wants
to
deal
with
the
municipality
now.
K
The
problem
with
these
institutions.
G
B
K
G
L
L
You
have
to
run
through,
do
counselors
being
need
to
be
certified
in
the
state.
There
aren't
many
out
there
that
do
this
kind
of.
G
K
And
and
that's
what
they
do,
why
couldn't
we
contract
with
one
of
them
just
another?
One
of
the
problems
that
we
ran
across
is
that
it
actually
states
in
the
ordinance
the
city
ordinance
that
it
has
to
be
a
a
psychologist
or
a
psychiatrist,
and
the
majority
of
these
these
organizations
now
confer
with
a
psychologist
or
a
psychiatrist,
but
nurse
practitioners
are
the
ones
that
are
doing
most
of
the
counseling.
K
K
K
G
G
F
F
J
A
J
A
D
So
I'm
going
to
email
you,
the
draft
of
the
non-departmental
budget,
okay,.
G
D
That
you
have
time
to
talk
to
your
what
you're,
sponsoring
and-
and
you
have
a
couple
of
weeks-
that's
a
couple
of
weeks
down
the
road.
G
G
A
Week,
the
the
breakdown
on
contractual.
A
As
well
as
the
breakdown
that
Mr.
J
G
A
30
next
Tuesday
will
be
our
next
budget.
Workshop
do.