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From YouTube: City Council budget workshop, July 22, 2019
Description
This budget meeting, held Monday afternoon, included reviews of the departments of Police, Fire and Community Development.
B
Let
me
just
remind
you
and
remind
the
public
whoever's
here
that
this
is
the
second
workshop
of
our
fiscal
year:
2020
workshops
to
put
the
two
fiscal
year,
2020
budget
together
and
in
the
first
workshop
we
worked
through
all
of
the
various
elements
of
revenue
and
we
came
to
the
conclusion
at
that
point
that
the
anticipated
revenue
for
the
next
year
was
50
and
the
general
fund
was
58
million.
Nine
hundred
thirty
five
thousand
seven
hundred
eighty
three
dollars.
B
Basically
fifty
nine
million
dollars,
rounded
that's
the
number
that
we
have
to
go
and,
as
I
said
at
that
workshop,
just
like
at
home
when
you're
wrestling
with
your
checkbook.
The
first
thing
you
do
is
to
make
sure
you
know
how
much
money
you
have
before
you
start
spending.
So
that's
what
we
did
in
that
first
workshop
now,
the
second
workshop-
and
this
is
usually
the
ones
it's
the
longest
and
the
most
detailed
is
the
department
budgets
because,
as
you
know,
80
plus
percent
of
our
budget
is
people.
B
B
Those
budgets
we
scrubbed
them
in
the
down
direction,
a
good
bit
and
now
they're
prepared
with
that
scrubbed
budget
they're
prepared
one
by
one
to
talk
to
you
about
what's
in
their
budget
and
why
and
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
if
it's,
okay
with
the
mayor
as
I'd
like
to
start
with
the
fire
and
police
departments,
because
those
two
departments
in
those
two
departments
budgets
are
the
majority
of
the
increases
over
this
fiscal
year.
Pretty
much
all
the
rest
of
the
departments
are
in
line
with
their
2019
budgets.
B
The
last
thing
I'll
mention-
and
this
affects
every
department-
is
that
we
have
an
unfunded
deficiency
this
year.
That
is
a
requirement.
An
expense
requirement
that
came
from
external
sources
came
from
the
state
of
Mississippi
retirement
system,
Employee,
Retirement
System.
We
have
an
unfunded
problem.
If
you
will
it
amounts
to
about
$800,000,
because
we
now
pay
17%
instead
of
15%
employer
contribution
on
employees,
salaries
and
that
that's
a
big
load
that
came
to
us
externally
and
nothing.
In
other
words,
it's
a
must.
It
must
pay
bill.
B
So
yeah
everybody
in
the
States
got
the
problem
every
city
and
on
the
coast
here
is
that
wrestling
with
that
problem
of
having
this
big
unfunded
deficiency?
How
to
handle
it?
So
when
you
see
the
department
budgets
and
you
see
their
their
personnel
cost,
remember
that
that
2%,
that
extra
2%
is
in
there
this
year
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
salary
numbers
are
up.
It's
not
because
salaries
up
it's,
because
the
berta
burden
is
up
so
with
that
mayor.
Unless
you
have.
B
B
C
Thank
you,
I
just
I
prepared
something
just
to
kind
of
make
it
a
little
easier
to
see
where
we're
at
how
we
got
there.
2018-19
budget
was
17
million
three
hundred
thirty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
ninety
one
dollars
so
the
2019
2020
budget.
We
proposed
18
million
five
hundred
and
four
thousand
nine
hundred
ninety
one
dollars.
So
that's
an
increase
of
1
million
one
hundred
sixty
seven
dollars,
one
hundred
1
million
one
hundred
sixty
seven
thousand
and
four
hundred
dollars
the
reason
for
those
increases
and
I'll
and
I'll
go
through
these
quickly.
C
We
only
asked
for
two
new
positions:
they
were
both
in
dispatch.
That's
a
total
of
88
thousand
five
hundred
and
forty
four
dollars
for
the
two
salaries
benefits
the
body
worn
camera
system.
It's
a
five-year
plan!
If
we
decide
to
go
with
the
five-year
plan
and
I'll
discuss
that
with
you
in
a
minute,
it's
it's
seven
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
four
hundred
ninety
six
dollars.
C
That's
the
body-worn
camera
now
they've
offered
us
a
plan,
but
I'll
come
back
to
that.
If
that's
okay,
that's
five
years,
you
had
the
whole
five-year
amount,
that's
right,
but
out,
but
I
can
I
can
break
that
down
for
you
here
shortly
over
time,
not
budgeted
last
year
was
seventy
four
thousand.
That
was
all
the
events
that
we
had
that
we
had
not
budgeted
for
so
we
added
anticipating,
we
would
probably
have
pretty
close
to
those
same
event.
Events
coming
back,
maybe
not
the
airshow
but
I'm
sure
something
else
is
going
to
pop
up.
C
But
we
went
ahead
and
budget
at
seventy
four
thousand
dollars
more
in
overtime
to
cover
those
tuition
increases
because
we
have
it.
You
know
we
have
that
that
tuition
benefit.
We
raised
that
to
thirty
that
raised
at
thirty
thousand,
because
we
were
in
the
hole
with
that.
Last
year
we
put
in
for
a
citizen's
Academy,
which
is
where
we
bring
the
citizens
in
and
basically
show
them
how
the
police
department
works
and,
and
that
and
that's
something
else
that
we
can.
C
We
can
look
at
if
you
have
any
questions
on
that
and
then
a
state
retirement,
the
FICA
increased
one
hundred
ninety
thousand
six
hundred
and
eighty
nine
dollars
workers
comp
increased
ten
thousand
one
hundred
fifty
nine
dollars.
The
uniform
in
uniforms
increased
by
twenty
two
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
six
dollars.
C
Csi
products
and
DNA
lab
testing
accounts
for
$24,000
twenty
four
thousand
two
hundred
fifty
six
dollar
increase
natural
gas
increase.
When
up,
we
had
to
increase
$5,000
to
cover
that
janitorial
and
cleaning
increased
$1200,
and
then
educational
incentive
pay.
That's
when
their
officers
have
been
going
to
school
and
get
their
degree,
and
you
know
we
have
an
incentive
pay
for
that,
so
that
gave
that
one
up
three
thousand
dollars
the
capital
budget
and
2019
was
was
nine
hundred
and
ninety
four
thousand
two
hundred
and
three
dollars.
C
The
capital
budget
proposed
this
year
is
1
million
seven
hundred
ninety
eight
thousand
seven
hundred
and
thirty-four
dollars,
so
the
capital
of
the
capital
budget
itself
increased
by
eight
hundred
four
thousand
five
hundred
thirty
one
dollars.
So
since,
since
we
had
proposed
things
early
on,
we
removed
ten
vehicles.
So
that
means
we
removed
about
three
hundred
twenty
thousand
dollars
from
the
budget
and
we
removed
the
equipment
for
those
vehicles,
which
was
another
three
hundred
thirty-seven
thousand
three
hundred
and
seventy
dollars
are.
C
C
Another
300
about
360
$2,250.
If
we
decide
to
go
with
the
five-year
plan
that
they've
offered
us,
they
basically
finance
a
forest
for
five
years.
There's
really
no
charge
to
the
finance,
but
there
is,
if
we
pay
it
all
up
front,
we
do
get
an
additional
half
year
of
maintenance
and
and
storage.
If
we,
if
we
decide
to
pay
it
over
five
years,
we
would
lose
that
that's
really
the
only
benefit
we
would
lose.
C
Ninety
one
thousand
three
hundred
thirteen
dollars
a
piece
is
what
they
would
be
if
we
do
that,
if
we
decide
to
go
with
that
five-year
plan,
that
would
drop
the
capital
budget
in
the
police
department,
2
1
million
four
hundred
thirty
six
thousand
four
hundred
and
eighty
four
dollars
and
the
biggest
the
biggest
issue
in
the
capital.
Naturally,
his
vehicles
year
before
last,
we
didn't
buy
any
vehicles
and
that
that's
that's
kind
of
why
you
see
the
increase
in
the
vehicles
this
year
last
year
we
bought
about
a
dozen
I
think.
C
We've
bought
thirteen
and
you're
talking
about
cars
that
run
constantly
seven
days
a
week
and
a
lot
of
cases
so
I'll
put
together
just
a
list
here
of
the
vehicles
that
we
would
be
replacing,
and
you
can
see
all
of
these.
Some
of
them
have
over
200,000,
but
all
of
them
have
at
least
180
is
190
thousand
miles
on
them.
C
So
they're
at
the
end
of
life,
they're,
starting
to
cost
a
good
bit
to
keep
them
running,
and
we
need
some
of
those
extra
vehicles
to
be
running
at
least
well
enough
that
we
can
use
them
around
the
city
for
when
we
bring
other
officers
in
for
the
large
events
that
we
have.
We
have
to
put
them
in
something.
C
C
If,
if,
if
we
think
that
we
can
use
them
around
the
city,
will
we
will
keep
them
and
use
them,
like
I,
said
to
put
officers
that
come
from
out
of
town
and
I'm?
You
know
for
when
we
have
the
big
events,
if
we,
if
they
really
need
to
go
if
they're,
just
unsafe
and
we've
got
quite
a
few
that
way,
then
we
sell
them
at
auction
if
we
can't
use
the
parts
off
of
them
for
another
vehicle,
so
I'll
take
any
questions
you
have
and
I
know.
I
ran
through
that
quickly.
C
C
C
B
E
D
A
D
E
C
C
Well,
I
know:
I
know
that
this
number
is
very
close,
because
we
worked
it
out
a
couple
of
different
times,
a
couple
of
different
ways
to
make
sure
that
we
were
accurate.
What
we,
what
we
were
saying
and
we
may
not-
we
may
not.
You
know
we
may
not
spend
seventy
four
thousand.
You
know,
but
then
again
we
could
have
a
major
hurricane
and
we
would
so
it's
it's
just
one
of
those
you
have
to
get
playa
gamble.
F
D
C
G
C
E
C
G
C
G
C
E
G
C
G
G
G
G
G
E
G
C
It's
the
nature
of
the
beast
where
we're
at
because
of
all
the
events
and
the
details
you
just
take.
Last
month
alone,
we
had
officers
that
worked
over
a
hundred
details
away
from
work
either
either
we're
going
to
let
them
work
those
details
and
whoever
they're
working
for
pays
them
or
a
lot
of
them
we're
going
to
end
up
like
city
city
buildings,
what
we're
gonna
end
up.
If,
if
we're
not
passing
that
on
to
whoever's
rented
the
facility,
we're
gonna
have
to
pay
they're
gonna
have
to
have
security
there.
C
C
C
I
F
F
E
F
F
C
F
F
Killing
go
by
with
John
Thomas,
so
how
many
employees
you
got
how
much
costed,
how
much
all
the
times
gonna
be
claims?
Do
you
have
any
other
really
events
coming
up,
big
events
in
overtime?
Not
none!
You
pie
up
over
town
but
I
mean
that's
part
of
the
way
it
worked.
It's
please
call
the
fire
department
list.
That's
how
it
goes.
I
mean
that
that's.
J
D
So
if
I
understand
you
have
a
certain
number
of
positions,
you
do
your
best
to
fill
them
and
currently
right
now
and
that
number
confront
sure
way
to
fluctuate
depending
on.
If
somebody
retires
early
moves
away
is
terminated
whatever,
so
that
that
number
I
mean,
if
you
could
you'd,
have
all
those
13
positions.
Yeah.
C
C
C
We
started
off
with
60
people
and
by
the
time
we
got
through
with
both
the
tests,
the
physical
agility
test
and
the
written
test,
and
he
got
through
it
the
background
test.
You
know
we
ended
up
with
about
18
and
then,
by
the
time
we
finished
off
with
the
interviews
and
all
that
we
had
exactly
13
people
so.
D
C
C
A
B
J
C
C
C
L
C
C
C
C
C
C
G
C
F
F
C
G
F
E
F
C
C
C
C
B
C
B
C
C
Some
of
we
most
have
we
try
to
reuse.
If
we
can,
some
of
it
does
have
a
end-of-life
date
currently
we're
using
a
company,
a
Mississippi
company
that
outfits
everything
for
us
and
we
actually
get
the
car
at
a
little
bit
reduced
price.
It
thinks
the
things
that
they
can't
put
in
it
as
a
few
things
they
can
and
we
have
to
go
in
and
add
that.
D
G
E
G
No,
that's
okay.
The
point
I'm
trying
to
make
is
our
revenues
fled,
but
I.
Think
looking
through
this,
your
budgets
increased,
a
couple
of
other
budgets
can
increase.
Some
may
decrease
a
tad,
but
the
the
point
is
we're
not
looking
at
any
more
revenue,
and
in
past
years,
we've
always
seen.
We've
always
managed
to
approve
a
deficit
budget
and
we
scrimp
and
save
and
just
get
by
and
we
work
out,
but
the
administration
works
its
magic,
but
then
there
are
also
these
I'll
call
them
a
hidden
cost.
G
If
you
will
we're
down
manpower,
we
have
118
folks,
we
used
to
have
151
or
160
prior
to
Katrina.
Almost
15
years
ago,
we've
got
as
many
people
almost
as
we're
living
than
we.
We
certainly
have
a
lot
more
calls
to
the
casinos
just
in
tracking
that
we've
got
additional
cost.
I.
Just
worry
about
that.
That's.
A
F
G
You'll
stretch
that
you'll
stretch
the
revenue
to
cover
the
expenses
you
hold
the
expenses
down,
I
mean
that
that's
it.
My
point
is,
though,
that
the
revenue
pie
is
really
not
getting
any
bigger.
It's
pretty
much
static
over
the
past
several
years.
My
guess
is
next
year
it's
been
59
million
for
the
last
several
years,
and
so,
unless
something
significant
happens-
and
there
are
some
things
in
the
work
but
I
bet-
they
won't
come
on
the
tax
rolls
for
a
couple
of
years.
That
being
the
case,
we
got
to
grow
the
pie.
G
H
H
So
that's
exactly
why
you're
gonna
see
every
department
come
in
want
more
money,
because
eventually
it's
gonna,
give
and
I
think
we're
gonna
see
ourselves
in
a
heck
of
a
trouble
here
in
a
couple
of
years
because,
like
he
said
he's
down,
13
14
employees
and
another
dozen
could
just
quit
on
us
just
like
that,
just
because
they
want
to
and
we're
gonna
see
ourselves
in
trouble
in
each
department.
We
got
to
have
a
plan.
We've
got
to
be
something
now
cuz
every
year.
We're
like
yeah,
okay,
well,
we'll
deal
with
it
next
year.
G
C
C
I
So
in
fiscal
year,
nineteen
our
budget
was
fourteen
point,
eight
million
roughly
this
year.
It's
a
sixteen
point,
two
million
roughly
and
I
think
the
the
two
million
is
a
lot
of
it
is
the
salaries
the
non
personnel
that
were
asking
for
for
the
station
ten
one
I
guess
caveat
to
that
is
the
the
firefighter
grant
that
we
have
out
there
for
the
first
two
years
that
we'll
pay
75%
of
these
employees,
salaries
and
the
last
year,
it'll
flip
flop
and
I
think
they
pay
like
thirty
five
percent
or
25
percent.
So
chief.
I
Line
across
see
they
are
they
right,
as
in
the
isn't
right
right,
so
so
that's
that's
figured
in
there
other
than
other
than
and
and
that's
pretty
much
it
for
the
salaries
other
than
that,
our
salaries
of
our
salaries
of
pretty
much
flat
what
they
were
last
year.
Currently
we
have
a
hundred
and
fifty
line,
firefighters.
We
have
twelve
openings,
a
hundred
and
fifty
line
firefighters.
We
have
twelve
openings.
I
It
and
and
I
I'll
tell
you
I'll
tell
you
all
this,
because
it
takes
43
firefighters
to
manage
shift.
That's
what
we
are
required
by
NFPA
1710,
the
National
Fire
Protection
Association
by
their
standards
and
that's
a
national
standard.
We're
required
to
have
forty
three
people
every
day
to
mana
trucks.
It.
I
E
I
I
We
asked
for
two
hundred
and
one
thousand
increase
$1
an
increase,
and
that
was
due
to
you
know
when
I,
when
I
came
here
earlier
in
the
year
and
talked
to
you
about
the
cancer
presumptive
legislation
and
what
the
fire
department
was
doing
and
the
need
for
a
second
set
of
turnout
gear
for
our
firefighters.
This
this
reflects
this.
This
increase
reflects
that
request
of
one
third
of
our
department
to
be
to
by
turnout
gear
for
one
third
of
our
fire
department.
I
We
didn't
want
to
spring
it
on
the
city
or
on
ourselves
to
buy
all
the
the
turnout
gear
in
one
year,
so
we
broke
it
into
three
years,
so
one
third
of
this
would
would
be
that.
What
is
the
reason
for
that
Inc?
We
requested
that
increase
to
buy
one
set,
a
second
set
of
turnout
gear
for
one
third
of
the
department,
but
also
to
buy
new
turnout
gear
for
the.
I
A
J
I
E
J
G
J
G
Right,
but
let
me
let
me
point
out:
that's
I
think
you
budgeted
four
hundred
and
seventy-five
thousand
for
overtime
you're
at
four
hundred,
fifty
thousand
right
now,
yeah
average.
Fifty
thousand
a
month
roughly,
you
still
have
three
more
months
to
go
yeah
but
who's
counting.
But
let
me
rattle
off
some
previous
fiscal
years.
In
2017
you
were
23%
over-budget,
chief,
twenty
sixteen
thirty
percent
20
percent
over
15
26
percent
over
14
and
13.
G
You
nailed
it
in
in
fiscal
year,
12
you're
28
percent
over
and
that's
not
on
you
because
I
mean
we
have
a
history,
basically
of
underfunding
you
by
about
a
quarter
right
every
year,
so
I
mean
we
again.
It's
it's
similar
to
the
police
department.
You've
got
12
vacancies
right
now.
Do
you
have
43
men
per
shift
right
now?
Are
you
meeting
that
standard?
We
are
and
does
it
involve
paying
any
additional
unbudgeted
overtime
to
do.
J
G
Of
course
it
does
because
you
have
a
couple
of
a
dozen
vacancy,
so
it's
the
same
situation.
I
would
hope
that
some
point
would
be
in
a
fiscal
situation
where
how
many
firefighters,
in
a
perfect
world
chief
of
chief
Miller,
wanted
a
hundred
forty
five
great.
If
you
can
get
one
hundred
fifty-one
sworn
officers,
how
many
firefighters
I
would
love
to
have
two
hundred.
I
No
you're
right,
but
in
looking
at
when
I
was
reviewing
the
NFPA
guidelines.
Nfpa
is
requiring
that
we
have
43
firefighters
on
the
scene
of
a
first
alarm
assignment
to
a
high-rise
fire.
That's
the
that's
our
whole
ship.
That's
a
whole
shift
on
the
department.
So
that's
we'll
never
get
to
that
point
right.
We
understand
that.
But
you
know
the
problem
is:
is
not
just
the
number
of
personnel
we
have
but
and
I
think
you
touched
on
it
the
leave.
I
G
I
G
I
I
A
I
E
I
That
we
run
if
we
have
the
manpower
we
can
run
on
medical
calls,
it
cuts
down
on
them
engines
having
a
run,
but
but
there
again
it's
the
Train,
and
you
know
in
the
manpower
because,
like
I
say,
if
I,
if
I
do
these
trucks,
I
still
have
to
have
three
people
on
that
pumper
or
that
lot
of
truck
when
it
rolls
out
of
that
station.
So.
G
G
If
we
ever,
if
we're
paying
about
six
hundred
thousand
a
year
for
officers,
would
cost
you
with
benefits,
I,
don't
know
two
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
a
year,
maybe
we're
better
off.
If
that
will
knock
down
the
overtime,
maybe
we're
better
off
looking
at
iron,
three
or
four
more
firefighters,
which
is
again
it's
kind
of
like
this.
The
same
situation
with
well.
G
I
Guys
all
the
time
you
know
it's
hard
to
justify
that
we
need
to
hire
people
and
let
people
off,
and
it
is
hard
to
understand
that.
But
when
you,
when
you
see
the
the
sheer
number
of
hours,
these
guys
work
because
we
have
to
have
these
people
on
duty,
it
gets
it's,
they
need
the
time
off.
They
need
well.
G
G
G
I
J
G
The
other
thing
that
comes
to
mind
I
know
we
had
a
discussion
I
think
last
year
at
this
time
about
fire
trust.
So
these
fire
trucks
have
to
can't.
Remember
the
terminology.
Forgive
me,
but
pretty
much
you
look
at
every
20
years.
You
you,
the
plan,
is
you
get
another
fired
new
fire
truck?
One
rolls
out
of
service
and
one
rolls
a
new
one
rolls
into
service,
and
you
had
mentioned
that
after
Katrina
there
were
a
number
of
trucks
that
were
bought
in
their
20
years.
I
I
You
know
we're
trying
to
get
our
rating
up
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
get
our
rating
up,
and
this
is
from
the
Mississippi
State
rate
Bureau
in
it,
and
it
applies
to
hapless
lifespan
and
replacement
and
just
just
a
couple
of
things
up
briefly:
Mississippi
Mississippi,
State,
Reagan
River
highly
recommends
that
each
jurisdiction
established
a
long-range
replacement
policy
for
emergency
equipment
based
on
all
factors
involved.
Mississippi
State
rate
Bureau
has
long
suggested
that
communities
consider
the
lifespan
of
first
response.
Engines
has
15
years
on
commercial,
jassi's
and
20
years
on
custom
chassis.
I
Experience
dictates
that
fire
app
department
pumpers
with
age,
are
not
the
complete,
reliable
firefighting
machines
they
wore
during
their
earlier
years.
Consequently,
pumpers
with
age
beyond
those
outlined
previously
may
receive
partial
grading.
So
anytime
we
go
below
the
20
years
and
we
get
all
of
our
apparatus
or
custom
trucks.
Custom
pumpers.
So
we
can
go
the
full
20
years,
but
the
problem
also
lies
in
it.
I
I,
guess
you
would
call
it
a
dictionary
or
the
definition.
These
trucks
are
over
25
years
old,
they're,
antiques
and
and
so
we
we
have
to
get
them
replaced.
We
have
to
replace
these
these
trucks
that
have
three
one
I'm
I
actually
have
one
that
will
be
going
in
place.
It's
25
years
old
it'll
be
going
in
station
10.
E
J
J
I
G
D
B
E
I
I
That
you,
you
pay
on
the
front
end
of
the
back
end
with
this
plant
I'm
telling
you,
if
you
pay
on
the
front
end
you're
cutting
out
the
cancer
that
these
guys
are
gonna
have
to
go
through
and
these
employees.
You
know
you're
gonna
pay
a
little
more
on
the
front
end,
but
it's
gonna
pay
dividends
on
the.
I
I
J
E
G
I
Apartments
they
will,
we
will
we
do
when
we,
when
we
have
a
class
we
we
can
handle,
you
can
handle
only
so
them
I.
Think
it's
21
is
the
maximum
you
can
have
in
a
class.
If
we
have
a
class
and
say
we
have
15
people
or
12
people
that
go
through
this
class,
we
offer
to
surrounding
departments
and
they
pay
the
difference
to
have
their
people.
We
don't
make
any
money,
but
we
don't
pay
any
money.
You.
E
G
I
For
a
one,
we're
at
three
we're
a
three
right:
now,
yes,
and
and
and
to
give
and
to
let
you
know
next
year,
we're
up
for
a
rating
we're
gonna
be
rated
next
year,
so
so
we're
gonna.
We
don't
have
to
have
these
pumpers
in
place,
but
if
we
can
show
where
they've
been
ordered,
we're
gonna
get
we're
gonna
get.
You
know
a
credit.
L
I
I
I
D
I
J
D
G
J
G
F
I
F
You
always
said
to
take
two
percent
off
all
of
them,
so
we
have
to
do
that.
We
don't
have
any
choice.
You
have
to
do
that
so
I'm.
Looking
at
that,
so
I'm
gonna,
but
I'm
just
saying
Oh
suit.
The
increase
is
done.
The
top
two
time
I
made
four:
that's
what
the
increase
is
pretty
much
how's
it.
Nothing.
F
I
And
you
you
have
to
like,
like
Mike
said
earlier,
you
have
to
understand
that
we
have
two
new
stations
coming
online
and
not
just
the
personnel
but
the
the
gas
electricity.
Everything
to
run
them
stations
is
going
up
supplies.
Everything
just
goes
up
because
of
these.
The
addition
of
two
new
stations.
I
Other
one
other
area
I
wanted
to
I,
wanted
to
bring
to
your
attention
as
the
other
professional
services
and
and
I
understand
the
reason
it's
a
good
place
to
cut
costs.
But
but
what
you
have
to
understand
is
this:
was
this
money
we
asked
for
this
money
to
to
allow
us
to
have
a
grant
person
in
the
fire
department.
We
currently.
E
I
We
we
thought
of
instead
of
hiring
asking
the
city
to
hire
us
a
grant
writer.
We
wanted
to
contract
this
and
we
asked
for
sixteen
thousand
to
be
able
to
contract
her
for
a
year
to
assist
us
in
managing
these
grants,
because
we
currently
don't
have
anyone
available
in
the
department
that
knows
how
to
how
to
write
or
manage
these
grants.
The
way
she's
she's
done.
She.
E
E
I
The
country
now
since
she's
retired,
that's
what
she
does
for
a
living
and
she's
willing
to
give
it
to
us
for
a
really
good
price.
But
my
thing
is
until
I
can
get
and
I
have
identified
a
person
in
our
department,
but
she
needs
more
time
with
this
and
and
and
so
I
was
asking
for
at
least
one
one
year
for
her
to
be
able
to
work
with
Michelle
on
a
part-time
basis
as
a
contract
employee
so
that
she
can
get
this
person
trained
to
the
point
where
that's.
I
You
know
and
I
know
it's
an
easy
place
to
cut
the
funds,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
money
tied
up
in
grant
right
now
and
we
have.
We
want
to
get
more
grants
and
we're
eligible
for
more
grants.
But
we
have
to
my
concern:
is
we
have
to
be
able
to
maintain
to
1.8
million
dollars
in
grants
that
we're
currently
use.
I
Well,
in
the
way,
we
reason
that
is
when
she
retired,
instead
of
filling
her
position,
we
put
the
emergent
emergency
management
under
fire
training,
which
was
part
of
her
position,
and
then
we
figured
that
we
would
contract
somebody
for
the
other
part
of
this.
The
funds
that
her
salary
out
of
that
as
well
so.
G
I
I
I'm
sure
John
knows
what
I'm
talking
about
when
we
talk
about
upgrading
our
radio
systems.
This
this
is.
This
is
coming
up
to
25
we're
looking
at
200
about
two
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
just
for
the
fire
department
to
be
able
to
upgrade,
and
we
actually
have
have
a
grant
in
right
now
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
get
that.
Thank
goodness,
I
think
the
federal
government
back
off
a
little
bit
the
date,
but
it's
coming.
I
J
G
G
I
F
I
State
well,
the
state.
The
state
has
a
fire
truck
acquisition
program,
but
it's
only
eligible
to
volunteer
departments,
we're
not
eligible
for
it
and
that's
that's
a
bad
thing
with
all
the
state
programs,
Biloxi
and
Jackson
are
the
highest
departments
in
the
state
and
Gulfport,
so
we're
the
last
to
receive
any
funds.
J
I
I
And
I
will
tell
you
you
know
in
anticipation
of
this
truck
if
we
put
an
apparatus
committee
together,
that's
been
working
for
the
last
year
and
we
have
designed
a
truck.
That's
that's
not
it's
not.
It
doesn't
have
all
the
chrome
and
all
this
the
bells
and
whistles
it's
a
work
truck.
It's
a
lot
cheaper
and
and
it's
gonna
do
the
work
that
that
we
need
it.
J
H
I
I
I
think
we
rely
heavily
on
the
police
department
to
assist
us
with
that.
If
there
is
an
is
incident
where
we
feel
firearms
are
involved
or
our
people
are
in
danger,
we're
going
to
sit
back
and
wait
for
the
police
department
to
come
in
and
clear
the
scene
before
we
move
in.
However,
the
list
vests
are
coming
for
the
fire
department
and
they're,
not
cheap.
It's
just
another.
Another
issue
that
we
have
to
face
nowadays,
Vaman,
are,
are
getting
shot
and
killed
by
people
every
day,
and
but
we
have
taken
a
passive
stance.
What
we?
I
E
F
I
I
I
A
A
K
E
G
E
K
D
K
Full-Time
employees,
one
part-time
employee,
that's
one
up
from
last
year,
which
Mike
mentioned
Frederick,
was
transferred
over
there
to
take
care
of
short-term
rental.
We
have
him
up
and
going
now
we
did
lose.
Jerry
rose.
Last
year
we
promoted
Jeff
Toronto,
the
residential
inspector
up
to
the
commercial
position,
and
we
refilled
a
residential
possession
position
with
a
guy
named
on
slime.
We
have
17
vehicles,
one
of
which
is
the
one
that's
used
by
Main
Street,
the
van
bill
and
I
are
the
only
two
bill.
K
Of
our
employees
almost
no
overtime,
the
only
time
that
we
ever
have
overtime
occurs
at
the
Civic
Center
when
they
have
special
events
over
there,
and
sometimes
it
causes
him
to
run
over
aside
from
that,
there's
essentially
no
overtime
in
our
department.
We
are
mostly
service
oriented
where
we
don't
require
a
lot
of
heavy
equipment
or
anything
like
that.
We
just
need
to
replace
a
vehicle
every
once
in
a
while
or
replace
some
office
office
equipment.
K
So
we
wind
up
having
to
pay
to
to
repair
that
if
you
take
our
total
budget
and
you
remove
the
professional
services,
which
is
where
we
pay
the
the
temps
for
the
visitor
center
and
the
money
for
back
may
Mission
and
you
take
out
the
electrical
bill
for
all
of
those
buildings.
The
tree
cutting
and
the
land
clearance,
it
leaves
us
about
four
hundred
and
twenty
three
thousand
dollars
to
get
us
through
the
year
for
everything
else.
K
That's
kind
of
my
budget
I
can't
tell
you
some
other
things:
the
we
have
a
number
of
projects
that
we
expect
a
permit
before
this
year
is
over
self-checking.
The
sales
tax
numbers
are
up.
Our
construction
evaluations
are
up
13
million
fees
or
we
last
year
we
averaged
about
twenty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
a
month
in
permit
fees,
and
this
year
we're
averaging
32
thousand
five
hundred
in
permit
fees.
F
K
Yep,
no,
it's
open
for
special
requests.
It's
not
open
year
round,
but
bill
will
occasionally
get
a
request
for
a
wedding
or
a
reception.
They
just
had
a
retirement
party
there
what
bill
last
week
so
those
kind
of
things.
Sometimes
people
will
want
to
reserve
it
just
to
go
out
there
and
take
pictures.
You
know
against
the
bay.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
on
a
nascar
basis.
I
was
just
one
of
the
with.
K
F
K
F
K
L
K
D
K
F
F
A
F
K
E
K
K
Half-Shell,
the
previous
improvement,
the
building
that
was
already
there
was
assisted
sixty
3431.
The
abated
improvement
was
two
hundred
ninety
seven
thousand
two
hundred
forty-four
dollars.
The
total
improvement
three
hundred
sixty
thousand
six
hundred
seventy
five.
The
assessed
value
at
fifteen
percent
was
forty
four
thousand
five
hundred
and
eighty
seven,
and
that
that
goes
back
on
that
they'll
be
doing
twenty
twenty.
The
taxes
for
those.
E
K
Then
McElroy's
McElroy's,
the
the
building,
the
previous
improvement,
was
138
thousand
dollars.
The
abated
improvement
was
five
hundred
fifty
three
thousand
five.
Seventy,
the
total
improvement
was
691
five.
Seventy
the
assessed
value
at
fifteen
percent
was
eighty
three
thousand
and
thirty
six
dollars
and
that
will
that
will
go.
They
do
in
twenty
twenty
seven.
K
Well,
some
of
them
are
closed
down,
but
I'm
sure
the
abatement
is
still
in
the
building
for
like
the
the
review
enterprises,
which
was
the
ladies
that
put
together
that
group
for
the
buildings
downtown,
where
all
that
was
his
own
there.
No
sir,
that's
nuts
there's
a
shark
heads:
half
shell
Hilton
Garden,
Inn
medical
analysis,
Hard
Rock,
Casino,
Hotel,
ilyich,
pre,
Golden,
Nugget,
Baja
beach,
which
is
now.