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A
Welcome
to
September
5th
fifths,
assemblage
of
the
city
of
Independence
Commission
on
architecture
and
design
historic
preservation.
My
name
is
John
Darrow
I
am
the
interim
chairman
of
the
board,
because
the
chairman
is
conspicuously
absent
again
I'm,
going
to
ask
for
a
roll
call
of
the
people
in
attendance
going
around
starting
with
the
beautiful
Marriott.
A
Dylan
Pelton
historic
preservation.
Okay,
welcome!
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
The
first
thing
that
we
have
on
our
agenda,
according
to
my
disheveled
mind,
would
be
approval
of
the
minutes,
as
presented
from
our
August
meeting.
Do
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
motion
to
approve?
Second,
thank
you
all
in
favor
aye.
The
minutes
are
approved
for
last
month's
meeting.
Our
first
item
on
the
agenda
today
is
for
65
Court
Street
for
the
Grove
Restaurant.
Do
we
have
any
representative
of
the
Grove
here
in
attendance?
If
so
come
on
down.
A
A
Maybe
I
can
call
him
we'll
we'll
hold
this
over
right.
Now.
Item
number
two
33
Court
Street
anybody
present
for
33
Court,
Street
Owen,
said
he
was
going
to
be
on
vacation,
but
he
would
take
the
call
okay.
Do
you
want
to
you
want
to
try
and
reach
out
to
him
or
we
could
hang
on,
go
through
some
people
and
push
him
off
a
little
bit
folks?
What
are
you
here
for
I'm,
sorry
louder.
E
A
F
A
I'm
going
to
ask
a
question,
and
it's
strictly
from
an
aesthetic
standpoint:
I
see
that
you've
moved
your
door
from
the
corner
to
the
center,
which
makes
it
rather
unsymmetrical
first
floor
any
option
for
keeping
the
door
in
the
corner
and
having
the
window.
So
we
kind
of
have
more
of
a
symmetrical
facade.
F
F
Do
that
probably
the
biggest
city.
G
E
A
I
I
don't
have
anything
showing
a
recessed
door.
F
I
mean
I
could
do
that
very
easily,
really
all
of
the
dimensions
that
you
see
that
floor
plan
where
that
door
is,
it
would
be
recess
from
the
street
three
feet,
and
then
we
would
brick
both
sides
and
then
even
brick.
The
interior
side
of
it
is.
A
Your
pre-existing
door
on
the
of
the
corner
is
that
recessed.
F
G
G
A
E
A
Me
to
think
he
said
he
was
going
to
use
as
best
he
could
historic
Brit
to
match.
E
G
G
A
E
A
Gotta
meet
the
guidelines.
Okay,
so
my
friend,
you
got
a
little
more
work
to
do
and
I'm
gonna
throw
it
on
for
some
discussion,
but
as
as
per
our
instructions
from
our
administrative
staff,
you
need
to
go
back.
Do
a
little
research,
maybe
go
to
the
County
Historical
Society
and
see
if
you
could
find
some
facade
pictures
showing
the
full
dimension
as
you're
trying
to
bring
it
back
to
yeah.
F
I've
tried
to
find
some
pictures.
I
did
email
Dylan,
but
it
was
obviously
not
very
clear.
A
A
Might
try
Roger
Luther
room
County
Historical
he's
the
president
yeah
he's
pretty
proactive,
because
right
now,
with
our
guidelines,
we
can't
do
what
you're
asking,
which
makes
me
inclined
to
want
to
table
it
and
give
you
a
chance
to
come
back.
If
you
can
find
that
we
could
do
what
you're
asking
I
don't
want
to
shut
the
door
on
you.
A
Have
to
defer
to
the
administrative
staff?
Okay,
you
really
need
to
talk
with
Dylan
a
little
more
about
that:
okay,
okay
and
I.
Don't
I
don't
want
to
give
you
a
blanket,
no
I'd
like
to
table
it
pending
further
research,
which
means
like
the
next
meeting.
We
could
have
you
in
again,
but
you'd
have
to
get
with
Dylan
and
Juliet
to
get
with
Roger
I.
F
A
A
What
are
we
Mr
popularity
today?
Nobody,
oh
he's
the
I,
have
to
call
him
so
we'll
wait
on
him.
Okay,
so
196
State
Tom
come
on
down
advance
and
be
recognized.
My
friend
in
the
interest
of
full
disclosure,
Mr,
Haynes
and
I
have
known
each
other
going
on
several
decades.
We
have
not
done
any
interactive
business
in
several
decades.
I,
don't
think.
There's
a
conflict
of
interest
but
I
have
to
say
it
always
a
pleasure
to
see
you.
B
B
About
12
years
ago,
but
I
you
know
it
won't
affect
my
opinion.
So.
A
Around
sure,
absolutely
for
images
that
I
found
on
the
internet-
okay,
right
that
have
to
do
with
what
I'm
proposing
please
the
architectural
drawing.
E
D
E
A
What
I'm
proposing
is
like
a
New
Orleans
type
deck
in
the
front
of
my
building,
I
I
brought
in
drawings
last
year
and
I'm
told
that
they're
here,
but
thanks
we
could
use
something
like
the
Bella
Park
here
or
something
you
know
really.
Nice.
G
H
A
We're
gonna
pass
around
my
phone
because
I'm
too
inept
to
get
it
actually
printed
out.
These
images,
which
I
admit
to,
but
what
I
want
to
do
in
the
front
of
my
building
is:
do
a
New,
Orleans
style
down
there.
It's
called
The
Gallery,
but
up
here
it's
called
the
deck
it'd
be
primarily
iron
wrought
iron,
although
the
deck
would
be
something
lighter
than
iron
and
yeah.
There's
the
drawing
from
last
year
and
the
original.
A
Thing
that's
going
around
is
a
drawing
that
my
friend
billyardum
did
of
the
building
when
I
bought
it
in
2000.
So
it's
not
like
a
new
idea
that
I've
had
I've.
Just
at
this
point,
when
the
when
the
city
did
basically
a
19
foot
sidewalk
in
front
of
me,
I
told
Ron,
Lake
I
said
you're,
you're
tantalizing
me,
you
know,
because
this
is
the
idea.
I
could
build
that
I.
There
still
would
be
a
seven
foot
sidewalk
around
it.
You
know
so
I
mean
it's
it's
it's.
Basically.
A
The
street
like
I
say
is
just
is
asking
me
to
build
this
in
a
way
and
one
of
the
reasons
one
of
the
things
in
talking
to
Ron.
He
said
if,
if
that
is
built,
freestanding
it's
not
attached
to
the
building
at
all,
then
it
it.
Basically
it's
not
going
to
move.
He
said
by
the
time
you
do
all
these.
You
know
14
columns
that
that
thing
will
not
move
and
which
I
was
worried.
I
said
well
I'm
not
attached
to
the
building.
A
He's
he
assured
me
that
too
so
I
guess
the
for
me
at
this
point
is
I.
Guess
I'd
like
to
make
the
argument
that
that
this
is
historical
in
a
the
four
images
that
I'm
that
I'm,
showing
that's
four
of
like
10
or
12.?
What
we
had
and
I'm
I
think
we're
old
enough.
A
A
So
I
I,
like
the
previous
presentation
in
that
architecture,
I
thought
it
Blended
in
with
your
building,
better
yeah
and
the
idea
of
the
French
Quarter
more
than
this
is
kind
of
Stark
and
well.
This
I
mean
this
is
my
architectural
drawing
just
to
you
know,
I
mean
he
I
would
basically
do
the
railings
way
more.
A
little
more
elaborate.
A
Water
italianate
it's
an
Italian
building,
so
that
would
be
yeah.
You
got
a
lot
of
wiggle
room
to
make
it
really
pretty
yeah.
There's
yeah,
so
I
I
mean
I
have
in
the
bottom.
I
have
these
historical?
What
fences
that
I
got
down
in
Johnson
City
like
40
years
ago
now
when
they
tore
down
the
their
Library
down
there
and
that's
what
I
have
in
three
of
the
spaces
and
I'm
thinking
I
try
to
copy
something
like
that,
and
you
know,
and
I
I
would
probably
do
that
higher
than
it
shows
there.
A
A
balcony
railing.
I
think
it
is,
would
depend
whether
it's
a
railing
or
a
guard.
A
guard
is
slightly
higher
but
I'm
sure
that's
probably
the
code
yeah.
A
Think
it's
a
minimum
of
four
feet
at
the
yeah
I'd.
Probably
do
higher
yeah,
safer,
yeah,
I
I
have
to
ask
a
question
because
we
have
never
done
this
going
over
a
city
sidewalk
before
yeah.
Have
you
gone
before,
like
zoning
or
or
engineering
for
this
type
of
approval?
I
mean
we
deal
with
Aesthetics
yeah
I
I
did
talk
with
Juliet
with
okay
I
can't
hear.
C
A
A
D
A
G
A
D
A
G
E
A
That,
with
that
I
know
just
from
an
engineering
perspective,
they
might
need
to
put
in
lateral
bracing
they
might
need
to
put
in
lateral
bracing,
which
is
usually
you'll,
see
like
a
diagonal
somewhere
just
for
like
wind
loading
and
earthquake
loading.
If
you
look,
there's
I
don't
know
if
the
the
stairway
in
the
corner
would
be
considered,
lateral,
later
lateral
breaks
coming
down
to
the
sidewalk,
where
people
go
up
to
say.
A
Times
they
go
past,
they
get
up
onto
Veranda,
they
turn
right
and
behind
the
second
pillar
is
that
stair
start
yeah,
that's
probably
where
they
squeeze
it
in
I.
Guess
I
was
just
thinking
from
walking
through
or
underneath
it.
There's
gonna
have
to
be
something
that
cuts
across
and
if
that's,
where
the
stair,
the
stairs
are
sort
of
internal.
E
A
It
so
I
the
stairs
are
underneath
the
the
actual
floor,
like
yeah,
so
the
stairs
when
you're
going
down
the
stairs
you're
you're
not
going
further
into
the
sidewalk
you're
still
underneath
the
canopy
kind
of
area,
yeah,
okay,
yep
but
I-
guess
that's
where
you
stick.
A
A
H
A
Wall
for
the
my
vault,
which
has
been
filled
in
and
in
the
back,
there's
also
pillars
that
are,
will
again
be
pretty
standing
into
the
existing
sidewalk
and
from
there
I
can.
If
you
want
I,
can
I
can
do
any
number
of
verticals
for
not
to
rack
but
I
again
again
according
to
Ron
Lake,
it's
it's
like
it's
not
going
to
move,
but
I
hear
you.
You
know
I'd
over
build
it.
Basically,
if
you
need
that
yeah
yeah.
C
B
F
A
A
Yeah
well
yeah
at
this
point.
For
me
this.
This
is
my
first
step
yeah,
you
know
the
next
thing.
The
next
step
I
would
do
is
actually
I.
Think
I
I've
got
to
go.
Do
a
couple
more
meetings:
who'd
I
see
not
planning,
but
there's
one
more
step.
After
this,
it
might
I.
E
D
Doesn't
require
zba
approval
or
Planning
Commission.
Is
that
correct?
Okay?
So
basically
this
would
be.
This
is
where
you
would
come
for
approval
and
review.
I
got
you.
So
if
you
wanted
him
to
come
back
with
blueprints,
so
you
could
see
that
I
mean
that's.
You
could
do
that.
I.
A
A
Now
I
know
it's
going
to
be
high
enough,
so
kids
can
walk
under
it,
so
it
would
have
to
be,
but
we
kind
of
need
that
and
then
I
would
I
would
personally
it's
my
opinion
strongly
encouraged
to
if
you're
choking,
for
that
that
New
Orleans
kind
of
look
yeah
to
give
us
a
little
more
of
that.
Look
because
this
is.
A
Really
I
totally
agree
with
you
yeah
the
recording
helped
a
lot.
We
need
to
see
that
to
approve
and
and
okay
in
my
opinion,
I
would
just
yeah
I,
think
you're
on
the
right
track.
I
think
we're
all
pretty
much
behind
this
great.
We
just
kind
of
need
the
finishing
touches
to
give
you
a
green
light.
Sure
yeah
well
to
address
that
Steve
Reed
is
the
guy.
A
That's
going
to
be
building
this
I'm,
going
to
help
him
and
and
I
mean
he's
done
different
things
for
me
as
far
as
filigrees
or
whatever
I'm
sure
we
can
make
something
yeah.
You
know
that
looks.
B
A
Definitely
on
the
right
track
and
just
from
what
I'm
getting
here,
I
I,
don't
think
it's
gonna
be
initial.
We
just
need
the
the
finished
paper
product
in
our
hands
to
approve
it.
You
might
interacting
that
then
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
to
table
you
till
next
meeting
with
a
month.
Give
you
enough
time
to
come
back
with
with
a
drawing
yeah
I.
A
Might
give
me
two
months
and
I'll
tell
you
why
I'm
not
sure
how
soon
I
could
get
and
I
started
to
talk
about
it
and
I
lost
my
train
of
thought.
I
gotta
get
the
people
that
that
look
down
through
the
yeah.
You
know
make
sure
that
I'm
I'm
clear
to
wherever
I
want
to
put
a
a
pillar.
If.
C
A
E
A
Okay,
that's
fine
and
then
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
to
table
this
until
next
month's
agenda.
Second,
thank
you
all
in
favor,
okay,
good!
Thank
you,
sir
always.
A
So
I
understand
it:
you
want
a
drawing
with
with
details
of
we
need
height,
we
need
we
bat,
the
width,
we
need
height
width,
we
need
height
and
dimension
for
the
staircase.
I.
Think
code
requires
a
four
foot
wide
staircase.
We
just
need
to
see
that
gotcha.
This
looks
like
it's
dropping
down
from
the
front
of
the
balcony
towards
the
building,
then
down
against
the
belt.
We
need
to
got
to
see,
what's
going
to
be
there,
okay,
okay,
cool!
Thank
you,
Tom,
always
a
pleasure.
Thank
you.
A
I'm
glad
do
you
want
to
do
a
snap
report
on
this
or
just
let
him
go
sorry,
yeah
Sean
trained
me
a
certain
way.
You
know,
Rob
beat
me
into
submission.
Well,
I!
Don't
want
to
do
that.
It's
already
been
done.
I'm
the
whip
dog
already
yeah,
the
applicant
gazala
ishlad,
would
like
to
replace
the
recessed
front
entry
doorway
with
a
flat
plate,
glass,
entryway.
A
A
We
need
a
document
that
you
have
permission
to
make
this
sort
of
Amendment
to
the
building.
We
can't
give
you
approval
on
what
you
don't
own.
If
you
own
the
building,
it's
fine.
Okay,
I,
make
a
motion
to
adjourn
it
until
next.
Next
meeting.
Okay,
we
we
need
that
document
in
their
hands
and
then
I
think
we're
pretty
good
to
go.
No
problem.
Okay,.
A
A
Mean
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
go
back
all
the
way
to
the
1870
or
19
1906
photo.
We
are
going
to
need
a
facade
rendering
showing
what
you
plan
with
the
rest
of
the
building,
so
I
need
to
see
what
these
doors
look
like
with
their
measurements
set
into
the
facade.
Okay,
you
understand
cool
I,
think
that's
about
it!
Anything
else.
A
You
do
have
to
keep
in
mind.
The
recessed
doorways
in
Bangtan
are
meant
to
be
kept
recessed,
so
the
historic
guidelines
basically
say
that,
even
though
it
didn't,
if
it
didn't
start
out
as
a
recess
store,
it
was
made
into
a
recessed
roh.
You
should
probably
keep
that
architectural
component
to
the
building.
Actually.
J
The
current
current
elevation
of
the
store
is
hurting
our
business,
because
the
store
looks
like
it's
a
closed
and
there
is
a
not
properly
appearance
of
the
business
when
the
people
are
walking
outside.
Secondly,
the
doorway
is
the
poor
feet
inside
the
property
when
the
students
or
any
customer
open
the
door
and
they
hit
the
window
on
the
right
side
and
it's
since
last
one
year
we
have
already
replaced
three
times
the
glass
of
the
window,
which
cost
us
almost
six
thousand
dollar
to
replace.
It
sounds.
A
Like
that
could
be
corrected
with
the
new
new
construction,
does
the
recess
fall
under
shippo
guidelines
and
the
sectarian
interior?
Is
that
what
you're
talking
about
it's
not
addressed
completely?
What.
A
E
A
I
would
give
you
the
ability
to
enhance
your
windows
and
your
coverage.
You
just
need
to
keep
the
doorway
recessed,
you
could
modify
the
door,
so
you
would
be
breaking
glass,
you
have
the
adjournment,
you
can
go
back
to
the
drawing
board,
come
up
with
some
really
nice
designs
and
get
the
signature
from
the
owner
that
you
have
permission
to
to
modify
the
structure
and
we
can
push
ahead
for.
J
You
I
can
get
that
it's
it's!
Okay!
If
you
can
give
me
enhancement
of
the
window,
but
the
doorway.
We
can't
keep
it
forfeit
inside
because
the
wastage
of
the
space
inside
the
restaurant,
because
it's
all
outside
plus
the
cleanliness
issues
on
the
property,
because
a
lot
of
spider,
Nets
and
everything
and
the
people
get
annoyed.
You
know
even
we
clean
up
every
day
because
they
have
empty
space
over
there
and
they
get
gather
over
there.
So
we
can
put
the
door
up
on
the
front
not
like
that,
but
we
can
go.
J
Maybe
one
feedback
so
keep
the
almost
matching
the
current
elevation.
You
know
I.
A
Would
have
to
defer,
with
the
guidelines
that
we
operate
under
the
final
decision,
isn't
resting
on
our
board.
We
do
the
approval
once
you've
complied
with
with
the
requirements.
I'm
not
trying
to
make
it
work
harder,
but
I
mean
one
thing:
I
can
say
is
that
it
says
recessed
doorways
should
be
maintained,
but
it
doesn't
say
that
it
doesn't
give
footage
like
if
you
recess
it
from
17
to
three
feet.
It's
still
recessed
it
just
that's.
E
A
A
Yeah
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much,
sir.
Your
adjourned.
Until
next
month,
you
can
schedule
a
Dylan
if,
for
some
reason
you
need
a
little
more
time
just
call,
and
we
can
extend
that,
for
you
sure.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
Do
Whitney,
yeah,
yeah
sure,
35
Whitney.
D
H
A
G
A
Well,
he's
getting
ready.
I
I
did
a
physical
inspection
of
the
properties.
Today,
from
the
standpoint
of
a
structure,
there
is
little
if
any,
redeeming
quality
to
the
building,
I
I
personally
think
there
will
be
on
any
aspect
of
even
just
the
surrounding
properties.
It's
not
a
residential
and
there's
no
other.
E
H
We
have
plans
for
that
site.
Basically,
it's
tied
into
the
whole
Plaza
for
the
whole
block
more
or
less
what
we
own
except
Advanced,
Auto
we
sold
probably
about
12
years
ago,
but
bottom
line
is
we
have
about
seven
good
tenants
looking
to
put
a
building
up
there
for
them
a
place
from
five
thousand
feet
to
seven
thousand
square
feet
on
that
site.
H
Basically,
one
of
the
tenants
that
wanted
it
and
had
to
be
in
there
a
little
quicker
we're
going
to
move
them
inside
Rob
is
the
old,
Rite
Aid
store
and
put
an
entrance
on
that
side.
So
everything
ties
in
and
it
all
looks
aesthetic
on
that
whole
side
street
with
the
building
in
the
parking
right
there,
because
you
never
have
enough
parking,
as
we
all
know,
in
Broome
County,
but
so.
H
We
own
all
five
lots
of
the
whole,
all
the
Lots
we
bought
over
the
years.
We
were
buying
them
and
the
same
thing
we
did
in
the
front
for
Walgreens.
We
bought
all
those
buildings
over
the
years.
We
demoed
them,
and
we
had
to
wait
for,
of
course,
Eckard
to
sell
the
to
phase
than
to
sell
the
Rite
Aid
and.
H
A
Do
we
need
to
declare
us
unlisted
or
lead
agency?
First
declare
it
as
you
clear
yourself,
lead
agency,
and
then
you
declare
it's
unlisted
action.
I'd
make
a
motion
to
declare
the
city
of
binghamton's
Cod
Commission
as
lead
agency
in
the
case
for
30,
sorry,
35,
Whitney,
Avenue,
second,
a
second
all
in
favor,
okay
and
then
I
wish
to
declare
it
and
make
a
motion
to
declare
it
as
an
unlisted
action.
B
I
know
my
turn.
Okay,
did
you
have
to
say
anything?
Did
you
just
did
everything
I
think
I
did?
Will
the
proposed
action
create
a
material
conflict
with
an
adapted
land
use
plan
or
zoning
regulation?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
a
change
in
the
use
or
intensity
of
use
of
land?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area?
Now?
B
B
Okay,
will
the
proposed
action
cause
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
as
it
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities?
No,
will
the
proposed
Action
Impact
existing
public
private
Water,
Supplies
public
private
wastewater
treatment
utilities?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
to
Natural
Resources
example?
Wetlands
water
bodies,
groundwater,
air
quality,
flora
and
faunard?
No
will
the
proposed
action?
B
A
Determination
of
no
historical
significance,
I'll.
Second,
the
motion
I-
have
to
do
a
roll
call
on
this.
One
yay
passes
unanimously
yep,
yes,
okay,
then
we
have
the
other
wonderful
thing
to
read:
do
I
take
a
stab
at
it
or
is
anybody
else,
volunteering
for
this?
They
changed
it
on
me,
so
I'm
no
longer
committed
to
memory.
Okay,
I'll
go
for
it
compatibility
with
historic
guidelines.
The
city
of
Binghamton
has
okay.
A
That's
behind
me,
yeah
they're,
working
on
the
building,
yeah
I.
Wonder
it's
not
going
to
fall
down.
Recommendations
that
address
demolition,
do
not
demolish
historic
structures
that
have
historic
or
architectural
significance
within
the
city
of
Binghamton.
A
Do
not
disturb
me,
while
I'm
talking
do
not
demolish
a
building
that
contributes
to
the
historic
setting
and
character
of
a
district.
Do
not
demolish
a
building
that
contains
historic
building
materials
or
evidence
of
historic
craftsmanship
that
would
be
difficult
or
impossible
to
replace
or
reproduce
do
not
demolish
a
building.
That
is
a
rare
example
of
its
type
style
period
of
construction
or
historic
associations.
A
building
should
not
be
demolished
without
definitive
plans
for
the
ReUse
of
the
property.
A
The
ReUse
of
the
property
should
never
be
a
parking
lot,
which
would
generally
have
a
negative
impact
on
the
overall
character
of
a
street.
Do
not
demolish
a
building
when
reasonable
efforts
can
be
made
to
maintain
its
structural
Integrity.
If
historic
building
is
active
and
is
earning
a
reasonable
economic
return,
it
is
not
appropriate
to
demolish
the.
A
C
A
D
H
G
E
A
Moving
on
so
the
proposed
plans
haven't
been
reviewed
by
the
commission,
the
commission's
opinion
that
you
have
permission
to
share
your
building
down
that
works,
but
he
has
a
plan
yeah.
We
just
wanted
to
state
that
he
has
a
plan.
C
G
A
A
A
It's
it's
the
formalities
of
bureaucracy
in
action.
You
know
it's
what
we
do,
so
you
want
to
knock
down
the
house
at
39.
Again,
I've
made
an
on-site
visit.
My
opinion,
it's
beyond
the
capabilities
of
being
resurrected,
very
viable
candidate
for
Destruction
demolition.
I
would
make
a
motion
this
time
to
declare
the
city
of
binghamton's
cod
commission's
lead
agency.
A
B
B
Will
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
affect
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walkway?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
cause
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
or
renewable
energy
opportunities?
No,
will
the
proposed
Action
Impact
existing
public
private
Water,
Supplies
public
private
wastewater
treatment
utilities?
B
No,
will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources
known?
Will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
natural
resources,
examples,
Wetlands,
water
bodies,
groundwater,
air
quality,
flora
and
Juana?
No
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
drainage
problems?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
hazard
to
environmental
resources
or
human
health?
No,
therefore,
I
move
to
declare
a
negative
declaration.
A
Compatibility
with
the
historic
guidelines,
the
city
of
Binghamton
historic
guidelines,
provide
the
following
recommendations
that
address
demolitions:
do
not
demolish
historic
structures
that
have
historic
or
architectural
significance
within
the
city
of
Binghamton.
Do
not
demolish
a
building
that
contributes
to
the
historic
setting
and
character
of
a
district.
Do
not
demolish
a
building
that
contains
historic
voting,
materials
or
evidence
of
historic
craftsmanship
that
would
be
difficult
or
impossible
to
replicate
or
reproduce
do
not
demolish
a
building.
That
is
a
rare
example
of
its
type
style,
puritive,
construction
or
historic
associations.
A
A
building
should
not
be
demolished
without
defendant
plans
for
the
ReUse
of
the
property.
The
ReUse
of
the
property
should
never
be
a
parking
lot,
which
would
generally
have
a
negative
impact
on
the
overall
character
of
a
street.
Do
not
demolish
a
building
when
reasonable
efforts
can
be
made
to
maintain
its
structural
Integrity.
If
historic
building
is
active
and
is
earning
a
reasonable
economic
return,
it
is
not
appropriate
to
demolish
the
building,
even
if
the
return
is
not
deemed
to
be
the
highest
and
best
use.
A
A
A
G
A
G
A
E
E
A
A
G
G
A
Owns
Jack
33
yeah,
so
that's
the
sign
that
was
next
to
Subway.
That's
up
now,
because
what
I
have
here,
that
is
to
paint
the
front
where
the
windows
are.
Those
are
the
colors
that
he's
going
to
use.
E
A
E
A
I
Yeah
I'm
trying
to
improve
the
front
facade
of
the
building
I
own
on
Court
Street
I'd,
like
it
to
look
nicer
and
as
part
of
that
I'm
repainting,
the
front
of
the
facade.
I
A
That
was
the
charcoal
and
the
Westchester
yeah
yeah,
okay
and
we're
doing
all
non-masonry
trim.
That's
it
you're
doing
just
the
wood
trim
on
the
front
you're
not
doing
any
masonry
on
the
front.
A
Yeah,
that's
correct,
correct,
yeah,
okay,
anybody
have
any
questions
in
the
interest.
Yeah
do
I
need
to
point
that
out.
Are
we
good,
oh
in
the
interest
of
our
distraction,
I
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
project
at
33,
Court
Street
for
the
painting
and
Improvement
of
the
property
is
presented.
Second,
thank
you
all
in
favor,
all
right,
unanimous
you're
approved
okay.
Great!
Thank
you.
Yes,
thank
you.
A
G
E
A
A
Pretty
good
so
we're
at
the
meeting
we're
at
the
Cod
meeting
and
pretty
soon
you
can
connect
your
page
I'm.
Just
gonna
read
your
application.
I.
A
A
G
G
Well,
basically,
I
I
won
a
a
pretty
high-end
bottles.
G
What
not
that
we
are
provide,
and
all
that
basically
is
provide
my
brand
identity
in
the
front
frame
of
the
window,
the
front
window
and
on
the
door
it
will
be
my
logo
and
on
the
door,
would
just
be
email
and
Instagram
just
some
ways
that
people
can
book
appointments,
and
that
would
be
it.
A
Hello
yeah
we're
gonna,
do
some
construction
noise,
so
I
have
one
question
real,
quick,
just
put
them
on
hold
for
a
minute.
Okay,
hang
on
the
the
sign
that
he's
proposing
is
not
going
to
deviate
in
any
fashion
from
what's
in
our
pamphlet.
The
sign
that
you
presented
in
the
rendering
is
the
sign
that
you're
going
to
put
up
in
the
window.
Correct,
no
additions,
no,
nothing
right!
There's
no
additions,
there's
nothing
else.
Just
the
sign
correct.
G
A
A
G
G
C
A
C
A
G
A
It
was
an
hour
ago
where's
that
well,
we
still
are
here
because
we
had
a
lot
of
places
today,
but
I
figured
I'd.
Give
you
a
call.
If
you
can
you
come
down
or
do
you
want
to
try
and
do
whatever
problem
they?
If.
A
G
A
E
A
E
A
E
A
Okay,
we're
reconvening
September
5th
meeting
of
the
commission
of
architecture,
Urban
Design,
historic
preservation
for
the
city
of
Binghamton
I,
like
this
thing,
makes
me
feel
authoritative.
C
Hamza
Khan
and
live
at
11
Blackstone,
Ave,
Binghamton,
New,
York
and.
A
C
So
we
have
some
advertisement
signs
on
the
window
of
the
grill,
so
just
wanted
to
yep
like
that
one.
It's
all
paper
signs
and
like
karaoke
wing
night
stuff
like
that,
so.
A
C
No
we're
just
dealing
with
because
I
already
went
through
the
or
the
fixed
signs.
I
already
got.
D
C
D
There's
a
sign
application
assigned
permit
regulation,
that's
handled
by
the
zoning
officer,
yeah.
D
D
G
D
C
C
Okay,
so
go
to
permanent
reviews,
but
if
you're
bringing
up
a
permanent,
this
is
all
I'm
using
I.
Don't
know
what
else
to
get
that's
permanent.
So.
A
E
C
A
If
you
want
just
back
okay,
you
can
change
it
as
you
need.
You
can
change
it
as
you
need
to,
but
it
can't
be
affixed
to
the
building
or
the
window,
and
you
can't
make
it
look
like
a
stop
and
go
Bodega.
Okay,
because
then
code
is
going
to
get
involved
and
you'll
be
back
in
the
city
and
you've
got
better
things
to
do
with
your
time.
A
Yeah,
but
you
could
come
up
I,
think
with
with
a
permanent
sign
for
each
facade,
for
your
your
South
Assad
for
your
West
facade,
yeah
that
you
and
I'm
stretching
here
and
I
might
be
going
a
little
over
Bond.
You
might
be
able
to
change
the
verbiage
on
every
six
months
or
something,
but
it
would
be
a
permanent
sign
and
you
know
it
could
be
a
Christmas
special.
It
could
be
Easter
special.
You
know
we're
doing
lamb
or
something
for
the
next
okay.
C
I
have
a
question:
permanence
I
mean
temporary
signs.
What
is
the
time
frame
for
that.
D
C
C
G
A
I
heard
we
were
just
rated
the
number
four
State
University
in
the
nation.
Oh.
G
A
Yeah
and
and
our
community
college
I
think
came
in
like
number
six
there's
number
two
at
the
community
college
and
I
was
there
and
I
think
SUNY
B
was
number
one
in
the
state
at
that
time.
It's
pretty
good.
G
G
E
C
A
A
I'm
West
person
I
know
when
you're
talking
about.
E
A
A
A
Okay,
we
don't
have
a
determination
what
Ken's
going
to
do
going
forward
yet
Ken
Ellsworth,
the
mayor,
the
mayor,
does
have
a
plan
because
Ken's
been
absent
quite
a
bit
and
we're
not
completely
sure
why.
But.
A
A
A
A
Looking
for
some
people,
I,
don't
know,
okay,
I
mean
Mick's
been
here
a
couple
of
times.
Bob's
been
here
a
couple
of
times,
I
understand,
they're
busy,
but
well
I
I
got
that
we
just
you,
know
we're
the
Forum.
We've
been
the
Quorum,
but
if
one
of
us
can
or
we're
not
around
I
know,
suddenly
we're
gonna
end
up
postponing
or
something.
E
G
E
G
A
Yeah
and
he's
an
engineer
that
works
with
Bishop,
so
he's
like
he's
pretty
up
on
his
stuff,
one
accountable
and
espresso
netting
was
here
what
was
her
status.