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A
A
A
All
right:
first
up
we
have
Mr
Schneider
from
and
I'm
sorry
roll
call,
I
apologize.
Okay.
B
A
All
right
first
up
is
Mr.
Slider.
Tell
us
about
your
budget,
please
and
give
us
the
highlights
please
so
members,
please
open
page
67,
97
and
98.
D
Foreign,
thank
you,
and
just
just
a
quick
overview.
There's
little
to
no
change
to
budget
the
amount
for
travel
and
training
equipment.
Uniforms
office
supplies
remain
the
same
same
as
they
were
in
2021
and
2022.
The
only
increase
for
23
is
the
rates
that
were
negotiated
through
contract
negotiations
for
personal
services,
so,
barring
a
small
percentage
increase
in
salaries,
there
are
no
changes
to
the
budget.
C
Thank
you,
chairman
family
I,.
E
C
Okay,
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions.
First
of
all,
so
I'm,
looking
on
page
67
and
I
noticed
that
we
are
not
putting
any
money
toward
Professional
Services,
though
we
have
spent
like
a
few
thousand
dollars
there
in
the
past.
Can
you
explain
why
yeah.
D
My
Professional
Services
was
a
fee
that
we
paid
to
a
testing
agency
when
we
tested
applicants
to
become
master
plumbers
or
Master
electricians
in
the
city
of
Binghamton.
The
way
that
worked
in
the
past
was
we
would
order
the
exam
and
schedule
the
exam.
Then
the
applicant
would
reimburse
us
with
their
testing
fee,
that
testing
agency
no
longer
offers
the
test
and
the
way
it's
working
now
is
Pearson
view,
which
is
the
national
testing
company,
will
administer
and
Proctor
an
exam
based
on
the
International
Code
Council.
D
C
Okay,
so
now
I'm,
looking
at
page
97
and
okay,
so
I
noticed
that
there's
a
a
code
inspector,
that's
paid
for
through
arpa
funding
and
then
in
the
regular
budget.
There's
a
vacancy
of
the
same
amount
I'm
wondering
going
forward
once
the
arpa
money
is
no
longer
there.
Are
we
going
to
continue
to
fund
that
position,
or
is
that
going
to
remain
vacant
after
the
arpa
funding?
It's
no
longer
there
I.
B
C
Okay
and.
C
Okay
and
I
guess
my
other
question
was
I'm.
Sorry
I,
don't
understand
the
notes
that
I
wrote
but
I
think
it
was
under
travel
and
training.
The
the
in-service
training
is
oh
I,
see
okay,
so
under
uniforms,
we're
budgeting
for
10
positions,
but
under
the
in-service
training,
we're
budgeting
for
11
positions.
D
C
Is
there
what's
the
difference
there?
It's.
D
It's
just
a
matter
of
the
positions
being
filled
and
the
fact
that
we
have
of
a
little
bit
of
a
hard
time
with
recruiting
and
retaining
on
average
we
we
have
had
about
10
individuals
who
are
needing
to
be
provided
with
personal
protection
equipment.
So
we
have
10
on
the
uniforms.
Travel
and
training
is
a
little
bit
higher
because
I
also
as
the
Director
don't
take
advantage
of
uniforms,
but
I
do
have
to
continue
the
in-service
training
requirements.
F
H
I,
don't
believe,
there's
any
significant
changes
or
some
contractual
increases
for
2023.
But
it's.
A
C
You
know
just
making
sure
that
I
and
my
constituents
understand
the
budget
as
best
as
we
can
I
noticed
that
there
was
a
significant
increase
in
the
overtime.
Could
you
explain
why
that
doubling.
H
So
that's
for
the
stores
Keepers
most
of
that
is
for
them
to
cover
the
winner
ship
that
we
have.
We
run
a
night
shift
in
DPW
and
I
want
to
go
back
to
how
we
used
to
have
the
stores
Keepers
four
days
a
week,
doing
overtime
from
six
to
nine
to
cover
that
shift.
So
they
have
parts
for
the
mechanics
can
get
parts
to
work
on
vehicles.
H
It
wasn't
like
that
last
year,
the
previous
purchasing
agent
did
it
a
different
way
and
I,
don't
think
it
worked
out
personally
I
liked
it
the
way
it
was
before
so
I
want
to
go
back
to
that.
I
I
H
A
A
I
That's
great
yeah
not
close
enough
I
guess
so
it.
The
increase
in
my
budget
is
basically
fuel
lubrications
for
the
vehicles
such
things
like
that
parts
for
the
vehicles
it
just
about
doubled.
A
E
A
C
You
chairman,
danlin
hi
Dan,
how.
C
I'm,
looking
through
my
notes,
okay,
so
I'm,
looking
at
page
73
right
now,
where
they're
temporary
services
that
were
previously
funded
for
twenty
thousand
dollars
and
now
that
budget
line
is
zeroed
out,
can.
I
You
tell
me
about
that.
Please,
yes,
that
was
that
was
in
case.
We
didn't
have
enough
of
our
own
guys
at
plow
roads.
We
had
some
money
there
for
to
hire
out
with
our
new
snow
program
and
night
shots.
We
have.
We
no
longer
need
that.
C
You
chairman,
Scanlon,
okay,
now
I'm
looking
at
page
219,
and
there
is
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
budgeted
for
a
bucket
truck
for
signals.
What
is
a
bucket
truck.
I
Yes,
that's
that's
a
truck.
We
use
the
menus
when
they
go
up
to
fix
the
street
lighting.
Our
old
truck
is
about
30
years
old.
We
we've
gotten
into
life
twice
out
of
that
truck,
so
this
is
one
thing
that
we
really
need
to
keep
our
signals
and
our
street
Lighting
in
working
order.
C
And
I
I
have
another
question
here.
This
is
kind
of
a
general
question,
but
so
there's
a
line
for
equipment
and
repair
for
the
auction.
But
that
is
that's
under
requested
funds,
but
as
I
understand
it,
if
we
auction
off
equipment,
that's
expected
Revenue,
no.
G
G
C
C
I
get
I'm
I,
don't
know
I'm
having
trouble
understanding
this,
because
if
so,
if
it's
I
understand
that
it's
a
placeholder
right
that,
if
you
know
we'll,
see
whatever
we're
able
to
get,
but
then,
if,
if
you
sell
a
a
bucket
truck
and
get
twenty
thousand
dollars,
that
would
be
Revenue,
which
then
could
be
used
that
same
twenty
thousand
dollars
would
then
be
used
to
purchase
additional
equipment
right
correct.
So
then
it
wouldn't
we're
gaining
20
000
and
then
also
spending
twenty
thousand.
E
G
F
L
Thank
you,
Council
men,
Scanlon
again,
I
apologize,
I'm,
not
sure
if
this
was
already
discussed.
You
can
just
tell
me
if
it
was
there's
an
energy
monitoring
contract
on
35,
page
35,
and
it
says
that
it
expires
in
2022
and
the
estimate
of
that
great
expiring
contract
is
the
cost
or
the
proposed
budget
asked.
L
So
can
you
tell
us
what
this
is
and
if
it
is
expiring,
have
we
then
re
negotiated
a
new
contract
and
are
we
estimating
the
cost
of
this
new
contract.
L
N
M
It
what
it's,
the
energy
monitoring
contract
for,
City
Hall,
it's
for
the
Heat
and
lighting
and
they
monitor
to
make
sure
that
the
energy
is
being
used
in
the
correct
way.
It
was
part
of
the
installation
of
the
New,
Heating
and
HVAC
system
in
the
lighting
30
years
ago.
I
think
it
was
30
years
ago
when
we
put
it
in
we've,
continued
this
contract,
so
they're
managing
how
we're
using
energy
and
that's
what
the
contract
is.
The
contract
did
expired
this
year
and
we're
in
the
process
of
renegotiating
it
for
next
year.
Okay,.
L
Energy
use
okay,
so
someone
is
actively
looking
at
our
users
and
monitoring
it
from
afar,
so
decreasing
our
use
of
heat
if
the
building
is
empty
remotely
right.
Is
that
what
we're
saying?
Yes?
Okay,
so
this
estimate
here
that's
in
the
budget
is
an
estimate
because
it
could
be
forty
thousand.
It
could
be
right
right.
So
what.
B
L
C
You
compliments
gambling,
okay,
so
I'm.
Also
looking
at
page
35
and
I'm.
Looking
at
the
court,
improvements
line
and
I've
noticed
a
significant
decrease
from
2021
to
2022.
To
then
2023..
I
It
it
is
because
the
anticipated
work
that
we
need
to
do
up
there
this
year
there's
some
projects
that
need
to
be
done
up
there.
G
G
We
get
estimates
from
the
courts
of
what
work
they
want
to
be
done
and
that's
the
number
that
it
is
from
what
we
understand.
Okay,.
E
C
Thank
you.
Okay
and
I
was
also
wondering
on
the
a
couple
of
lines.
Above
there
were
budgeting
forty
thousand
dollars
toward
building
improvements.
Could
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
what
types
of
improvements
that
money
will
likely
go
towards.
C
Also
on
page
35,
so
I'm
looking
under
building
slash
equipment,
Improvement
and
maintenance,
and
then
the
penultimate
sub
line
those
building
improvements.
Forty
thousand
dollars.
G
I
L
L
I
Since
I
came
aboard
last
October
I've
hired
about
eight
guys
and
with
the
snow
program
going
the
way
it's
going,
we're
covered
24
7
7
days
a
week.
We've
never
had
a
problem
even
with
the
big
storms.
We
never
have
a
problem
getting
our
guys
in.
We
actually
got
a
good
CDL
program
going
and
we
we
are
training
guys.
We
had
three
more
guys
get
their
license.
This
month.
We
got
plenty
of
CDL,
Drivers
and,
and
honestly
these
guys
are
ready
to
work,
Yep
they're
ready
to
work.
We
won't
need
anybody
else.
I
I
A
G
I
I
F
F
A
A
B
A
I
Please,
okay
again,
the
big
thing
with
this
is
the
gasoline
and
diesel
fuel.
The
cost
increase
the
cost
and
lubricants
and
the
Tipping
fee
for
landfill
obviously
went
up
and
will
go
up
each
year.
C
I'm,
looking
at
page
118.,
can
you
tell
me
what
unallocated
insurance
is
and
why
it's
increasing
significantly?
It's.
G
C
B
I
Engineers
actually
looking
into
designing
something
for
me
over
there:
okay
and
it
might
take
place
next
year.
Okay,
I.
B
C
Thank
you,
councilman
Gamblin,
I'm
wondering
why
we're
it
looks
like.
Actually,
we
have
never
really
budgeted
for
contingency,
but
again
this
year.
There's
no
money
in
contingency
I
may
have
asked
this
question
last
year,
but
I
don't
remember
the
answer.
G
It's
based
off
of
the
number
of
people
we
had
in
this
sponge
when
we
did
the
budget,
what
we
anticipate
and
what
the
cost
is
for
the
health
insurance
for
next
year
was.
G
G
I
said
it's
not
a
million.
That
brings
you
up
to
about
1.1
right.
Okay,
we
are
raising
the
cost
of
the
bags.
I
can't
remember
the
exact
amount
this
year,
which
is
going
to
bring
the
bag
estimated
bag
Revenue
up
to
1.4,
oh
okay,
but
we're
still
sure
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
G
L
But
those
fees
are
are
that
total
then
is
based
upon
all
the
fees
within
this
refuse
Department,
not
just
the
fee
to
collect
trash
right.
So
again,
if
we're
going
solely
based
on
numbers,
tipping
versus
bad
Revenue,
we're
okay,
but
there's
obviously
some
other
lines.
We're
missing
in
the
total
cost
right.
G
The
salaries,
the
cost
of
the
trucks
the
fuel
adds
up
to
the
difference.
So
if
you
have
a
total
cost
of
roughly
four
million
dollars-
okay,
let's
say
one
point,
two
or
say:
900
000
of
that
is
due
to
tipping
fees.
Okay,
so
three
million
dollars
is
the
collected.
G
C
You
councilman
Scanlon,
so
I'm,
looking
at
page
121
and
under
vehicle
repair.
So
far
this
year
we've
spent
42
000,
though
we
budgeted
twenty
two
thousand
dollars
and
then
again
for
next
year
we
are
or
sorry
the
adjusted
budget.
I
apologize
is
forty,
two
thousand
dollars
and
yet
again
we're.
G
Budgeting,
let
me
let
me
answer
that:
okay,
okay,
we've
expected
to
have
garbage
trucks
here,
okay,
they've
been
ordered
for
two
years
that
we
haven't
received
yet
I,
don't
know
if
you
remember,
we
came
down
Okay,
so
we've
always
anticipated
having
new
trucks,
keeping
the
vehicle
repair
lower.
Okay,
that
has
not
happened
until
we
get
these
new
vehicles
which
took.
C
L
A
C
Okay,
thank
you
again.
I'm
sorry
I'm
trying
to
read
my
notes
here:
okay,
so
I'm,
looking
at
page
129
right
now
and
I'm
a
little
bit
confused,
so
employee
employee
benefits
for
unfilled
position.
That's
an
expected
revenue
of
fifty.
G
G
F
C
Thank
you
so
now,
I'm,
looking
at
page,
130
and
I,
see
that
there's.
So
these
are
the
bond
anticipation,
notes
and
these
are
these
mature
in
April
of
2023.
So
that
means
upon.
G
Anticipation,
note
is
a
short-term
note
that
can
be
renewed
over
five
years.
Okay,
they
renew
every
year.
In
this
case,
this
is
one
garbage
truck
that
we
bought.
We
don't
know
exactly
what
year
it
started.
We
owe
56
000
229
left
on
that
note
that
will
be
paid
in
April
and
the
interest
on
it's
a
thousand
sixty
eight
dollars
and
that
vehicle
will
be
paid
off.
Okay,.
G
F
A
G
Basically,
to
talk
about
it
is
this:
is
a
increase
in
the
bank
costs,
whether
it's
a
large
or
medium
bag,
that
the
mayor
wanted
to
add
into
this
budget
and,
as
he
spoke
at
his
budget
address,
this
is
a
he
understands,
the
problem
for
the
city
and
he
wants
to
try
to
rectify
it
and
figure
it
out,
and
if
anyone
has
some
ideas
or
ways
to
change
this
he's
open
to
suggestions,
but
this
was
to
minimize
the
amount
of
impact
that
it
would
cause
a
general
fund.
A
If
you
get
any
questions
on
page
224,
please
see
none
I
make
a
motion
to
approve
page
224
motion.
A
I'll
take
a
motion
to
open
page
159,
162
or
161
through
166.
167
through
176.
P
Good
evening,
esteemed
members
of
council
overall,
the
budget
is
held
fairly
steady.
We
have
a
few
small
decreases
and
a
few
small
increases.
The
one
of
the
largest
increases
is
going
to
be
the
chemical
costs.
P
That's
huge.
We've
been
struggling
with
that
all
year
to
maintain
pace
and
keep
it
going.
Chlorine
right
now
is
out
of
control.
It's
pretty
much
a
monopoly
with
the
Olin
company
that
manufactures
all
chlorine
and
chlorine-based
products,
which
includes
Plastics.
P
What
I'm
told
it's
about.
Five
percent
of
Chlorine
production
in
the
country
is
used
for
drinking
water.
The
rest
of
it
goes
with
plastics
and
other
Industries
and
they're
doing
whatever
they
want
with
the
price.
P
We
have
a
local
supplier
amrex
and
he
gets
letters
from
them
two
or
three
times
a
week,
trying
to
find
one
way
or
another
to
raise
the
price
nickels
here
dimes
there
and
it's
been
adding
up,
and
it's
incredible
I'm
at
four
and
a
quarter
right
now
for
a
gallon
of
product
that
I
paid
year
and
a
half
two
years
ago,
I
was
paying
just
under
a
dollar
I
think
89
cents,
it's
something
we
absolutely
have
to
have.
P
There
really
is
no
other
source
that
is
Dependable
once
in
a
while.
They
will
attempt
other
companies
will
attempt
to
come
in
and
low
volume
low
ball.
The
first
couple
of
months,
then,
all
of
a
sudden
it's
either
they
can't
Supply
it,
which
is
it
if
we
don't
have
chlorine
we
shut
down.
P
So
you
can't
take
a
risk
with
another
company
and
it's
we're
really
locked
in
right
now,
waiting
for
these
prices
to
bind
and
finally
place
to
settle
aluminum
and
our
PCH
180
that
it's
a
chemical
we
use
to
settle
the
dirt
out
of
the
river
as
we
bring
it
in.
It
settles
everything
out
this
chemical,
the
particles
together
and
makes
it
heavier
and
they
sink
out,
and
then
we
deal
with
that
in
another
way.
P
We
buy
that
out
of
a
house
in
our
Massachusetts
pollen,
Chemical,
Company
and
again
they
do
what
they
can
to
absorb
for
a
little
while,
but
we're
going
to
see
the
final
cost
increases.
These
are
it's
another
chemical
that
without
I
can't
treat
water
at
all
and
we
shut
down.
So
we're
really
just
following
the
market
on
this
chemical
thing
and
it's
not
a
lot
I
can
do
to
control
it.
C
Doing:
okay,
okay,
so
my
my
first
question
is
on
page
161
under
the
per
the
personal
services,
so
I
see,
there's
a
couple
of
positions
that
are
funded
part
way
on
this
line,
where's
the
rest
of
that.
C
M
C
And
my
my
last
question
for
this
page
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
is
under
Professional
Services
I
noticed
that
decreased
as
well.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
an
external
and
externally
determine
cost
that
the
last
line
on
page
161.
That's
also
right.
P
The
adjustable
yeah
this
can
swing.
We
have
a
lot
of
specialized
electronic
equipment
that
constantly
monitors
the
water.
Part
of
this
money
goes
to
fund
the
hot
company,
which
is
owns
all
these
proprietary
machines
in
water
treatment.
P
We
have
a
service
contract
with
them
that
we
keep
funded
out
of
this
actual
water
testing
changes
from
year
to
year,
depending
on
what
mood
the
EPA
is
in
and
whether
or
not
they
wish
to
say
something
else
is
going
to
get
us
and
sooner
rather
than
later,
and
when
you
get
when
you're
doing
groundbreaking
testing,
the
fees
are
astronomical,
so
to
fill
a
small
bottle
of
water
and
send
it
out
for
testing
can
cost
us
hundreds
of
dollars
for
each
sample
that
has
to
fill
out.
P
F
C
Yeah
you're
right,
I
I
was
a
comparing
it
to
the
abducted
budget.
Instead
of
the
the
adopted
budget.
L
You
again
councilman
strong
I
mean
Scanlon
I'm,
sorry,
I
do
I,
do
have
a
question
on
164.
and
that's
regarding
the
Wastewater
processing
theme
in
the
Years.
Prior
again
we
budgeted
for
250
000
and
we
expended
almost
the
same
in
terms
of
processing
had
something
changed.
P
I,
almost
don't
want
to
answer
this
out
of
here.
What
I'm
going
to
say
next,
the
place
has
to
the
sewage
treatment
plant
actually
has
to
be
running
and
accepting
sludge
when
they
are
not
operational
or
whatever.
The
reason
is
I
can't
send
that
sludge
now
I
have
concrete
tanks
at
the
water
plant,
and
this
sludge
will
fill
them
up.
I
need
that
same
room,
the
water
to
flow
through
and
that
they're
continually
drop
off
in
that
section.
P
We
are
in
the
midst
of
trying
to
get
phase
two
of
a
project
where
we
will
own
this
equipment
and
it
will
become
part
of
our
daily
operation,
and
it
will
remove
me
from
waiting
for
something
else
to
explode,
to
sewer
treatment
plan
and
that's
a
Dream
It's
been
a
dream
for
a
lot
of
years
to
take
us
out
of
their
issue
completely
and
handle
it
all
at
the
plan
ourselves
and.
G
L
G
P
C
Thank
you,
councilman
Scanlon,
okay,
I
am
looking
at
page
162
and
I
noticed
that
so
far
we
have
not
spent
anything
out
of
our
Hardware
software
maintenance
line
that
we're
continuing
to
budget
eleven
thousand
dollars
for
I.
Don't
know
if
there's
a
reason
why
or
if
that's,
maybe
at
the
end
of
the
year
that
why
there
has
been
no
money
encumbered
or
extended
so
far,.
M
That's
for
a
program
that
Jeff
wants
to
buy.
He
hasn't
purchased
it
yet
for
the
plant
for
monitoring
the
plant
maintenance,
so
he
hasn't
gotten
it
purchased
yet,
but
he
does
I
believe
anticipate
purchasing
it
by
the
end
of
the
year.
So
that's
why
we
will
need
the
maintenance
next
year,
but
we
haven't
spent
it
this
year.
M
M
C
M
M
E
L
M
The
network
make
the
network
maintenance
that
we
use
is
for
things
that
our
Citywide
network
servers
and
and
a
virus,
and
that
type
of
software
that
I
pay
the
whole
portion
and
then
charge
back
water
and
sewer
their
portion
they're
going
to
pay
this
bill
themselves
every
because
it's
only
software
for
them.
It's.
C
You
councilman
Scanlon,
okay,
I'm,
looking
at
page
165
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
explain
the
difference
between
a
water
meter,
reader
and
a
water
meter.
Reader
specialist.
P
They
wanted
me
to
read
a
specialist
Lana
being
a
slightly
different
job.
It
started
off
with
a
water
meter
reader
with
the
Advent
of
munis.
In
the
system
we
found
places
where
overlapping,
Services
redundancies,
better
follow-up
became
more
of
a
permanent
job
where
this
person
was
doing
all
computer
work.
They
weren't
really
reading
meters.
P
Unless
something
came
up
and
we
had
to
have
them
do
it
and
it
became
really
a
full-time
job
with
just
some
units
and
growing
pains
with
that
having
a
14,
000
Plus
accounts,
finding
different
things
you
know
still
to
this
day
at
every
Municipal
border
is
still
there's
still
questioning.
We
still
find
problems
with
this
house
being
missed.
We
assumed
they
had,
but
one
municipality
had
it.
They
assumed
we
had
it,
and
we've
tried
to
clean
up
things
like
that.
With
this
position,.
G
Councilman
Scanlon:
can
we
I
handed
out
a
little
cheat
that
Jeff
would
like
to
make
a
modification
to
his
budget
change
of
position.
I'll.
Let
him
talk
to
you
about
it.
It's
actually
a
decrease
in
cost.
Okay,.
A
A
M
So
basically
Jeff
wants
to.
He
had
asked
to
eliminate
a
water
meter
repair
in
the
budget
and
create
a
reader
meter
reader,
because
he
didn't
think
he
would
be
able
to
find
a
meter,
a
water
meter
repair.
He
has
now
been
able
to
find
that
a
person
to
fill
that,
so
he
would
like
to
fund
the
water
meter,
repair
position
and
unfund
the
water
meter
reader
position
on
160.
P
P
E
G
F
N
A
O
Yeah
sorry
councilwoman
resinetti,
hi,
councilwoman,
Riley,
aye,
councilwoman,
Friedman.
C
O
F
F
O
C
Thank
you,
councilman
Scanlon,
okay,
I'm,
looking
at
page
167,
the
state
retirement
and
so
I,
don't
know
how
much
of
this
is
within
our
control
to
budget,
but
I
did
notice
that
there
was
a
significant
decrease
in
that
from
205
000
to
150
000.
Can
you
talk
more
about
that?
Please,
okay,
that
that's
beyond
our
control.
F
G
It's
it's
projected
on
the
number
of
employees
in
the
budget
and
their
salaries,
okay,
based
off
what
it
was
before,
sometimes
by
the
new
retirement
rates
for
those
people
right
example.
Being
if
the
water
department
had
more
tier
two
people
and
those
people
have
retiredly
back
filled
them
with
tier
six,
that
rate's
going
to
go
down.
C
G
With
the
team
series
that
were
in
negotiations
on
a
contract,
then
what
the
potential
increase
might
be
and
things
of
that
nature.
C
G
Well,
you're
still
looking
at
it
on
page
177,
it's
transfer
to
Capital,
and
this
is
things
that
we
move
the
capital
to
assist.
Japan
getting
projects
and
minimize
one-time
big
hits.
Okay,
we
look
at
what
his
inventory
balances
on
all
these
different
items.
One
thing
that
they
specifically
separate
item
this
year
that
we
did
is
we
put
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
water
fund
money
to
replace
water
lines.
Normally,
we
would
borrow
for
that.
Okay,
we
put
it
in
here.
A
Any
questions
Mr
Kruger,
please
on
up
to
page
219
to
220.
B
A
N
A
F
C
A
Aye
anyone
opposed
all
right:
Mr
Kruger
Let's
talk
about
page
219
through
to
paid
page
219,
220,
171,
158,
160-156-157
and
155.
Please.
P
As
far
as
fees
go,
we
haven't
changed
anything
water
and
seal
rates
are
going
to
stay.
The
same.
P
It's
tough
to
tell
you
get
different
stories
at
different
times
of
the
day,
but
it
is
a
truck.
It's
used.
An
incredible
amount
of
time.
Jet
truck,
is
what
we
use
water
pressure
to
clear
sewer
lines.
J
C
Thank
you,
councilman
Scanlon,
okay,
so
I'm
looking
at
the
the
water
rates
on
page
156
and
I,
see
that
they're
established
by
the
board
of
estimate
and
apportionment.
So
I
guess
does
that
mean
that
we
can
or
can
adjust
them
I
mean
that's
not
my
actual
question
but
just
like
curiosity.
C
My
actual
question
is:
I
I
see
that
the
water
rate
for
individual
users,
it's
higher
than
the
water
rate
for
municipal
users
and
I,
would
think
that
we
would
want
to
switch
that.
No
wouldn't
it
be.
It's.
C
P
G
C
G
Have
three
different
types
of
users
that
we
have
everybody?
Let's
speak
your
stream
yeah
yeah
people
within
the
city
of
Binghamton,
whether
it's
business,
whoever
they
get
charged
the
one
rate
there's
individual
households
that
we
build
directly
from
the
city
and
then
there's
municipalities
that
we
Supply
water
to
I.
Think
it's
kind
of
difficult.
It's
on
a
Dickinson's
on
a
Binghamton
that
we
send
them
and
we
build
them
a
whole
amount,
whatever
they
use
on
a
quarterly
basis
and
then
they
build
their
individual
users.
L
C
G
C
Okay,
do
I
still
have
the
floor?
Yes,
okay,
so
I'm
just
I'm
looking
down
here,
so
the
water
service
charges
I
noticed
there
was
a
decrease
in
the
expected
Revenue
there,
but
the
rates
are
not
changing,
so
it
went
from
sixty
thousand
to
forty
or
negative
sixty
thousand
to
negative
forty
thousand.
That's.
G
P
Basically,
it's
balanced
off
of
our
B
structures,
things
that
we
do
above
and
beyond
that.
We
have
a
fee
that
we
charge
to
the
individual
user
frozen
water
meter,
because
all
the
windows
in
the
basement
are
open,
there's
a
list
of
it
and
it
gets
pretty
extensive.
It
lists
the
PE
stable.
There
are
multiple
reasons:
Frozen
meter
fees,
one
of
them
that
somebody's
taking
a
book
need
her
head
off
things
like
that.
P
If
it
doesn't
go
into
theft,
it's
charged
for
a
brand
new
meter
to
replace
it
a
lot
of
it's
really
centered
around
the
meter,
the
water
meters
and
what
we
have
to
do
to
recoup
losses.
If
a
house
is
broken
into
things
like
that,.
G
F
C
And
my
last
question
for
this
page
is
the
the
very
last
line
the
fund
balance
for
budget.
So
that's
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
we
was
Revenue
was
gained
in
2022..
Does
that
coordinate
with
the
that
other
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
I'm
wondering
I.
G
C
You
councilman
Scanlon,
so
okay,
now
I'm
looking
at
page
177
and
I,
was
wondering
if
you
could
tell
me
what
car
or
car
is
that's
budgeted
for
35
000.,
the
the
very
last
line
under
transfer
to
Capital
fund.
G
N
A
P
I'm
really
happy
to
say
the
sewer
budget
is
pretty
solid.
There's
been
small
changes
for
some
of
the
basics:
fuel
oil
petroleum-based
products.
Things
like
that.
We
don't
have
anything
really
huge.
Going
up
over
time's
gone
up
a
little
bit
just
from
what
we've
seen
for
you
to
John
this
year.
C
Thank
you,
councilman
scanlin,
okay,
I'm
I'm,
currently
looking
at
page
181
right
now,
and
could
you
please
explain
to
me
the
the
interest?
Slash
subsidy
for
EFC
Bond,
I,
I
I'm,
just
confused
you're.
D
C
G
People
these
are
services
that
the
water
department,
administrative
type
in
the
water
department-
that's
getting
back
charged
to
the
Sewer
Department.
We
don't
split
their
time,
50,
50.,
okay.
We
have
a
formula
that
based
off
like
just
time,
50
to
the
water.
Fifty
percent
for
the
sewer.
C
C
C
C
And
sometimes
I
I
worry
that
I'm
asking
a
question:
that's
something
that
I
approve
and
then
forgot
about
so
again,
sorry,
but
so
I'm.
Looking
at
the
sanitary
sewer
system
supervisor,
which
is
now
unfunded
and
the
bureau
chief,
which
is
being
upgraded
so
is
that
is
the
bureau
chief
essentially
like
replacing
the
sanitary
sewer.
P
P
I'll
just
say
it
for
the
record:
the
individual
that's
receiving
this
promotion
is
well
beyond,
above
and
beyond
his
duties,
he's
tasks
with
a
lot
of
different
things
and
he's
never
let
us
down
true
assets
of
the
city
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
he
has
to
monitor
every
storm
and
every
event,
no
matter
what
he's
doing
or
where
he
is
the
first
time
that
the
combined
suit
overflows
discharge
anything
from
the
river
he
has
to
be
there
in
collecting
samples,
there's
a
lot
to
what
he
does
yeah.
H
L
F
G
And
the
payments
when
the
due
dates
are
you
see
the
years
that
the
bonds
will
expire,
so
the
first
one
will
be
done
in
2029
and
the
first
payment
on
that
Pro?
That
note
is
due
on
May
1st.
The
second
one
is
November
1st.
Usually
the
first
payment
includes
the
principal
and
interest
payment.
The
second
one
is
strictly
interesting.
L
G
C
Thank
you,
councilman,
Scanlan,
okay,
so
I'm,
looking
at
page
196.,
which
is
the
health
insurance
and
there's
one
line
for
contingency
for
ten
thousand
dollars.
What
what
might
that
be
for.
G
C
Right,
okay,
and
so
some
some
of
that
might
be
out
of
our
control
in
terms
of
the
health
insurance
rates
right.
Is
that
what
you're
saying.
G
G
G
I,
do
this
I
break
it
down,
so
I
have
a
different
line
item
for
each
thing,
so
I
understand
where
everything's
coming
from
okay
as
I'm
calculating
this
okay,
like
I,
could
tell
you
right
now.
I
know
what
the
over
65
insurance
is.
Okay,
I
did
not
know
that
when
I
was
putting
this
budget
together,
okay
example
is
it's
going
up.
Basically,
ten
dollars
a
retiree
per
month.
Okay,.
L
G
G
Majority
date,
it
basically
lists
all
the
financial
information
and
all
the
information
that
we're
supplying
to
the
people
that
are
bidding
on
our
bonds.
G
L
E
G
L
You
I
knew
we've
received
something
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone
was
aware
of
that
Banned
Book
now.
Are
we
approaching
that
time
when
it's
April
in
April?
Thank
you.
G
G
This
is
our
bond
anticipation
notes.
So
you
see
the
first
one
is
band
maturity.
Those
are
notes
that
we
go
out
that
oh
councilman
Riley
was
just
talking
about
how
every
year,
the
next
two,
the
o30306,
those
are
EFC
funds.
Okay,
we
still
have
a
substantial
amount
of
money
that
we
owe
to
them.
Okay,
I,
put
in
here
no
principal
payment,
anticipating
that
we're
going
to
get
the
settlement
that
got
released
probably
before
it
should
have
okay,
and
that
is
happening.
Okay
and
I.
G
You
have
some
legislation
tomorrow
that
I'm
asking
to
be
expedited
so
that
we
could
pay
off.
Hopefully,
all
this
old
303
note
by
the
end
of
the
month,
okay,
the
06
will
probably
be
done
before
the
end
of
the
year,
but
it's
one
of
the
things
that
have
reduced
this.
All
the
sewer
rates
for
next
year
not
reduced
somebody
kept
them
from
going
up.
G
Well,
you're,
all
looking
I'll
also
make
another
Point.
Sometimes
people
think
I
might
might
be
a
little
bit
difficult
on
things,
but
if
you
go
to
page
189,
okay,
this
is
a
sewage
treatment
plant
that
budget's
going
from
2.250
up
to
2.5.
G
That
is
all
because
of
the
500
000
plant
cost
increase
okay,
even
though
their
budget
is
decreasing.
Most
of
that
is
coming
from
debt,
okay
and
other
items,
but
because
their
share
of
the
cost
went
up
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
we
make
up
fifty
percent
of
it.
We're
paying
an
extra
250
000
in
the
city.
Residents
are
so
when
I,
when
you
guys
wonder
why
I
get
so
hard
on
the
plant
and
trying
to
reduce
their
budget.
This
is
a
direct
effect
on
it.
G
A
F
A
All
right,
Mr
now
we're
on
to
Capital
Improvements,
page
219,
220.,
203,
181,
182,
184,
179,
180
and
178.
P
I
just
already
started
talking
about
219
previously,
with
the
jet
truck
being
one
of
the
largest
purchases
off
of
Capital.
P
A
couple
new
vehicles
that
have
lived
there,
outlived
their
life,
we're
going
to
replace
them.
P
Nothing
no
huge
changes
in
what
we
usually
request
each
year.
C
Thank
you,
councilman,
Scanlon,
okay,
so
now
I'm
going
to
ask
my
question:
I
had
on
page
179,
so
I
I
noticed
that
on
for
the
water
rates
we
differentiate
between
the
inside
City
users
and
the
outside
Municipal
users
and
the
outside
individual
users.
But
here
we
we
only
have
one
rate
for
inside
City
users
and
no
one
outside
the
municipal
or
outside
the
city.
F
G
Like
we
don't
have
any
outside
users
for
sewer
example,
being
Tony
Dickinson
that
we
sell
water,
okay,
they
get
billed
a
soar
rate
from
the
sewer
plant
and
they
build
their
people.
For
that.
G
C
Thank
you,
okay,
so
I'm
looking
at
181
and
I
have
two
questions.
So
the
first
one
is
on
the
sewer,
rents
and
I
see
that
the
the
proposed
budget
is
roughly
the
same
as
it
has
been,
but
it
seems
that
we've
only
received
about
half
of
that
so
far
halfway
through
September.
G
C
G
C
F
G
C
Okay,
all
right
that
makes
sense.
Thank
you
and
my
other
question
is
so
I'm.
Looking
at
the
in
interest,
I
guess
int
10
for
interest
subsidy
for
the
EFC
Bond.
G
I'll
try
to
answer
that
as
quickly
and
easily
for
you,
okay,
so
that
interests
subsidy
when
we
do
an
EFC
Bond,
they
charge
us
a
going
rate.
Okay
and
let's
just
say
that
rate's
three
percent-
okay,
the
state
kicks
in
and
pays
part
of
that
interest
for
us.
Okay,
it's
one
of
the
advantages
of
using
the
state
to
do
this.
So
if
you
look
at
that,
215d
is
the
bond
that
we
have
and
you
go
back
to
page
180.
The
total
interest
on
that
bond
that
we're
going
to
pay
is
393.610.
G
G
G
Councilman
Scanlon
can
we
report
Mr
Kruger
Leaves
Can.
We
reopen
page
155,
okay,
we
already
passed
that,
but
that
should
have
been
passed
as
amended.
We
made
the
adjustment
on
that
position.
G
E
E
A
We've
been
at
this
per
hour
and
a
half,
so
let's
take
a
three
minute
break
here,
we'll
be
right
back
with
Jeff.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
N
A
H
A
B
B
H
B
A
All
right,
let's
move
on
to
the
parking
ramps
now
with
Carl
Petro.
A
A
A
J
J
Management
Services
line,
page
140.,
they've
they've,
been
broken
out
into
the
individual
facilities
and
the
total
is
ninety
thousand
dollars
less
than
previously
reason
being
mainly
the
fact
that
the
Water
Street
Garage
was
closed.
G
So
the
reason
we
broke
out
some
of
these
accounts
is
it's
possible
that
we
can
reduce
our
debt
limit
for
certain
types
of
debt
related
with
parking
garages,
but
we
have
to
have
the
expenses
and
the
revenues
for
each
facility
in
order
to
do
that
where
a
lot
of
our
debt
in
the
past
was
combined
for
all
the
different
facilities,
Southern
Holly
Street
has
its
own
dot.
If
I
can
now
break
out
the
expenses,
we
can
exclude
some
of
that
debt
from
our
debt
limit
allocation.
C
Thank
you,
councilman
Stan
Lim.
My
question
is.
C
Okay,
I'm
looking
at
page
133,
which
outlines
the
the
rates
for
the
Collier
Street
surface
lot,
and
this
is
maybe
a
small
detail.
But
I
noticed
that
on
Mondays
from
2
A.M
to
7,
A.M,
there's
no
listed
rate.
There.
C
C
J
Yeah,
if
you
look
onward,
there
is
a
a
night
parking
fee
from
2
A.M
to
7,
A.M,
Tuesday
and
and
Thursday,
and
then
from
7
P.M
to
7
A.M
on
Thursday
through
Sunday,
which
is
actually
just
everything
except
the
hours
that
are
cited
in
your
question
for
for
Monday
through
Wednesday.
J
Oh
yeah,
okay,
the
the
night
parking
fee
really
should
say
Monday
through
Thursday
for
2
A.M
to
2
A.M
to
7,
A.M,
okay,.
C
G
Councilman
scaling
on
the
fees.
One
thing
that's
important
here
in
the
past,
the
maximum
per
day
cost
was
twenty
dollars
or
was
ten
dollars
a
day
yep.
We
upped
that
to
twenty
dollars
and
it's
mostly
due
to
people
that
are
going
there
for
the
weekend,
getting
on
a
bus
going
someplace
and
coming
back.
So
we
capture
some
more
money
from
them.
C
G
Yeah
save
paid
basically
I
believe
it
would
be
eleven
dollars.
Okay,.
A
N
N
A
A
You
have
a
second
again,
second,
all
in
favor
aye
aye.
Anyone
opposed
thank
you.
Carl
appreciate
you
coming
down
here,
Let's,
let's
change
this
up
and
move
to
chichusky
since
he's
the
only
one
who
doesn't
have
to
be
here
with
us
to
the
end
of
time,
so
choose
the
custody
you're
next.
B
A
A
All
right,
let's
I,
make
a
motion
open,
page
49-59,
60,
68,
219
and
223.
she's.
Tell
us
any
major
changes
to
your
budget
here.
K
Well,
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
major
changes.
There's
no
vehicles,
we're
expecting
grant
money,
we've
seen
they're
very
difficult
to
get
with
12
Vehicles
ordered
two
cents
last
November
and
the
rest
10.
Since
February.
K
You
know
you
see
a
lot
of
lines,
zeroed
out
some
stuff.
We
need
year
to
year
some
stuff.
We
need
every
other
year
every
three
years,
so
There's
real,
there's,
really
nothing.
You
know
dramatically.
That's
been
changed.
C
You
good
thank
you.
Okay,
I'm,
looking
on
page
48
and
I,
see
there's
a
line
for
personal
services
that
has
has
the
f0015
tag,
so
those
came
out
of
art,
but
I
know
that
was
only
in
2021,
but.
G
C
Thank
you,
councilman
Scanlon,
okay,
now
I'm,
looking
at
page
49
right
now
and
I
see
the
field
training
officer
pay,
so
we're
funding,
19
positions,
I
guess
at
twenty
one
hundred
dollars,
but
it
also
says
that
there
are
19
vacancies
there
can
you?
Can
you
explain
that?
Please.
E
C
M
M
A
C
Way,
it's
fine
with
me,
okay!
So
now
I'm
looking
at
the
equipment
line
on
page
51
and
I,
know
I
I've
asked
about
this
before,
but
I
see
we're
we're
budgeting
three
thousand
dollars
toward
AR-15
handgun.
How
can
you
tell
me
about
like
how
frequently
those
are
used?
What
they're
typically
used
for.
K
K
K
C
K
K
Have
whites
on
them?
You
know
we
have
in
the
cases
they
get
they
get
banged
around.
They
need
new
book
I'm,
not
an
armorer.
We
have
shovel,
so
it's
just
maintenance
on
the
guns.
You
know
there's
slides
out
of
there's.
You
know
they
practice
with
them
twice
a
year.
The
SWAT
team
has
them
practices
with
them
every
week.
So
you
know
parts
do
wear
out.
The
gun
itself
does
have
to
replace,
but
the
parts
have
to
be
replaced
in
the
weapon.
A
C
C
You
good
good
I
know
this
on
our
feed.
L
K
We
haven't
offered
it
a
long
time.
At
one
point:
the
county
court
judge
said
that
only
we
could
provide
that
class.
Somebody
complained
to
the
administrative
judge
and
it
got
changed
and
now
there's
several
people
that
offer
that
class.
So
we
do
it
very
infrequently
on
occasion,
if
we
get
enough
people
that
want
it
and
there's
a
feat.
K
To
get
a
permit,
the
county
court
judge
requires
you
to
take
this
course
right.
It's
an
absolute
requirement.
So
if
we
get
enough,
people
to
hold
the
class
makes
it
worth
their
while,
not
our
we
don't
make
any
money
on
it,
but
we
hold
it.
But
it's
been
a
long
time
since
we've
had
one
because
now
there's
people
all
over
the
county
that
are
doing
it.
Okay,.
N
F
K
We're
hoping
the
new
vehicles
come
in,
you
know
we're
running
cars
right
now,
with
180
190
000
miles,
we
always
told
Council
before
it's
really
three
times
that
all
the
manufacturers,
as
I
said
we
have
12.
We've
got
some
car
a
few
cars
in
this
year.
We
have
12
ordered
two
since
last
November
10
since
February.
They
just
told
us
now
that
they
we
went.
K
You
know
we
jumped
to
the
front
of
the
list,
because
with
every
other
department
in
the
country
that
had
cars
ordered
because
they
ran
out
of
22
as
a
luxury
of
chips,
so
anyway
we're
waiting
on
those
we're
expecting
a
grant
in
the
near
future
to
purchase
several
more.
So
the
answer
is,
yes,
we're
expecting
the
fleet
to
be.
Currently
it's
the
best.
It's
ever
been
to
be
honest
with
you
in
many
many
years,
but
we're
still
in
need
of
vehicles
now
especially
Patrol
vehicles,
and
it's
not
that
nobody
will
buy
them.
E
C
Thank
you,
councilman
Stanley
I'm
on
page
53
and
I
was
just
wondering
why
the
printing
supplies
have
gone
up
significantly.
K
E
K
Well,
you
know
you're
going
to
grocery
store
lately
because
I'm
gonna,
we
ordered
parking
tickets
in
December
of
20..
We
just
went
to
order
the
exact
same
amount
of
tickets
and
it
literally
exactly
tripled
for
the
same
number
of
tickets.
So
all
of
this
is
reflective,
as
so
we're
hunting
down
that
we're
not
going
to
go
that
price.
Actually
I
signed
the
traffic
that
we're
getting
them
a
little
cheaper
than
triple.
K
You
know:
let's
go
out
and
get
better
prices,
but
it's
everything's
going
up
and-
and
you
know
just
just
reflection-
we're
not
adding.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
we
cut
a
lot
of
this
stuff
because
we
either
have
in
stock.
We
don't
need
it
or
or
whatever
just
when
we
go
out,
get
the
prices.
That's
what
we're
being
told.
G
C
A
K
They
have,
and
it
varies
that
you
know
it
may
or
may
not
reflect
what
we
have
it.
We
have
what
we
have
in
stock.
So,
quite
frankly,
we
didn't
need
as
much
as
we
normally
do,
because
an
order
that
we
had
from
a
year
and
a
half
ago
never
got
sent
in
from
the
purchasing
department
and
we
kept
inquiring
about
it.
So
that
was
stuff
that
we
got
now
that
we
should
have
got
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
so
it
increased
our
what
we
have
on
hand.
K
So
you
know
he's
a
training
officer.
He
tallies
up
what
we
need
for
the
range,
what
the
SWAT
team
needs.
You
know
in
service
training
and
we
just
get
what
we
need.
So
we
got
some
the
bottom
line
is
we
got
some
extra
we
weren't
expecting,
because
we
were
short
wonder.
Why
short?
Why
are
we
short
we
found
out?
Quite
frankly,
the
PO
would
never
get
sent
out.
C
Thank
you,
councilman
Scanlon,
okay,
I'm
on
page
59
right
now,
and
the
the
second
to
last
item
I,
don't
know
what
F
pet
stands
for
or
is
a
short
for,
but
that
oh
I'm,
sorry
I,
never
answered
my
own
apartment
so
that
I
see
that
that
line
is
zeroed
out
and
that's
being
moved
line.
A
9950
is
that
correct.
K
G
But
what
this
line
is,
is
it's
I'll
use?
The
word
buy
money,
okay,
that
every
year
we
would
budget
it
and
they
wouldn't
use
it.
They'd
use
some
of
it,
so
we're
putting
money
into
Capital.
So
if
they
don't
use
it,
we
don't
have
to
fund
it
every
year
and
then
charge
the
taxpayers
for
that.
So
we'll
move
it
once
over
to
a
capital
line
and
as
they
as
they
need
it,
we'll
budget
for
it.
Each
year.
L
Thank
you,
councilmember
Hanlon,
just
one
more
question
regarding
the
education
incentive
we
talked
about
that
before
is
that
for
each
officer
that
has
achieved
or
obtained
those
degrees
and
they
received
that
incentive
every
year?
Yes,
so
if
we
have
So
currently
we
have
25
officers
that
have
a
bachelor's
degree
and
they
get
an
additional
300
because
they
have
received
the
bachelor's
degree.
M
The
biggest
change
in
my
department,
you'll
notice,
that
I
created
an
assistant,
it
manager
position
and
unfunded
and
info
Tech,
specialist
I'm,
anticipating
retiring
in
18
months.
So
we
want
to
create
an
assistant
direct
assistant
manager
position
for
the
transition
once
I
retire.
I
I
anticipate
that
they
will
remove
the
assistant,
I.T
manager
position
at
that
point.
But
it's
just
it's
a
transitional
position
to
get
ready
for
my
retirement
other
than
that
the
changes
are
minimal.
M
Obviously,
Hardware
software
maintenance
went
up
a
bit
always
does
because
the
vendors
we
deal
with
increase
the
cost
page
32
is
our
records.
Management
Department,
which
we
pay
for
the
storage
of
records
off-site
and
shredding.
The
cost
for
the
storage
of
records
off
site
has
increased
dramatically
because
we
are
some
records.
We
have
to
keep
forever
so
we're
putting
more
and
more
in
storage,
and
we
also
have
to
pay
for
all
the
records
at
the
court
store
so
that.
D
C
Thank
you,
councilman,
Scanlon,
okay,
so
on
page
32,
that
the
record
storage
that's
billed
per
month
per
month.
Okay,.
M
C
M
That
person
maintains
the
website
and
is
putting
together
a
social
media
plan
so
that
we
can
become
more
hip.
Yes,
he's
putting
together
a
plan,
but
he
is
the
he
is
the
person
who
maintains
the
entire
website
now
posts.
All
the
meetings
gets
the
recordings,
all
posted
the
minutes.
All
posted
makes
any
changes.
M
C
Thank
you,
councilman
Scanlon
I
have
one
I
think
one
last
question:
the
technical
services.
Did
you
touch
on
that
the
technical
services
that's
just
about
outside.
M
Consulting,
when
we
need
Specialists
hosting
fees
for
different
software,
that
they
that
different
vendors
host
for
us,
as
opposed
to
hosting
in-house
JS
services,
that
we
pay
for
to
Broome
County
for
GIS
services,
any
I
have
a
miscellaneous
project.
If
a
project
the
department
has
a
special
project,
they
want
to
do
and
then
vulnerability
assessments
that
are
done
on
our
Network
just
to
check
any
issue.
C
Okay,
so
I
know
the
the
amount
that
we're
allocating
in
this
budget
is
roughly
the
same
as
what
we
allocated
in
the
2022
budget,
but
we
have
ended
up
adjusting
it
to
be
about
double
that.
We
can't.
M
M
C
C
I
think
that's
on
my
question.
Thank
you.
Q
Yes,
councilwoman
Riley,
please.
L
L
I
do
have
a
question
because
I
noticed
that
under
the
Council
budget,
our
phones
and
things
are
not
a
line.
Item
correct
that
is
housed
under
your
budget,
because.
M
Q
Okay,
any
other
questions
on
pages
14,
24,
25,
31
or.
M
Q
Q
Seeing
none
I'll
entertain
a
motion
to
accept
Pages,
32,
43
44
and
that
Capital
Improvements
section
of
Information
Technology
on
page
220.
Q
Q
F
Q
Q
G
Page
page
14
is
your
budget,
okay,
which
doesn't
have
a
whole
lot
in
there,
except
for
your
salaries
and
part
of
legislation
that
you
would
pass
last
year
the
year
before,
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
year
you
get
raises
equal
to
CPI
API.
When
I
did
this
budget,
it
was
like
7.65,
so
that's
805
dollars
for
each
of
you.
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
that.
That's
what
you're
approving
and
if
that's
what
you
guys
want
to
pass
pass.
G
Q
This
is
a
point
that
I
brought
up
when
we
lasted
so
again,
just
like
the
mayor's
salary.
Obviously
this
is
something
that,
from
an
RL
perspective
has
to
come
down
with
us
to.
We
want
to
entertain
any
discussion
regarding
the
annual
CPI
increases.
I
had
argued
to
take
it
out,
but
councilman
Scanlon,
please
I.
Q
Thank
you
councilman
any
other
discussion
that
being
said,
Mr
Corp
Council
that
needs
to
that
would
need
to
be
done
in
an
RL.
If
this
is
something
the
body
would
want
to
entertain,
correct,
okay,
so
would
I
suggest.
Does
any
other
colleagues
any
other
thoughts.
Questions
comments
are
on
that.
Q
Then,
seeing
than
not
hearing
any
negation
on
it
can
we
get
a
number
Chuck
if
we
wanted
to
move
that
difference
over
to
a
contingency
line,
if
that's
an
RL
that
we
are
going
to
entertain
at
some
point
soon.
Well,.
G
A
Just
in
a
in
the
climate,
we're
in
I'm
not
sure
we
need
personally
I,
don't
think
my
feeling,
I,
don't
think
we
need
any
more
money.
Inspired
city
council
people,
we
it's
not
a
big
increase,
but
it's
still
somewhat
of
an
increase,
so
I'd
rather
pass
on
that.
Personally,
that's
my
opinion.
Thank.
F
Mean
it's
similar
to
that
I
I,
agree,
I
mean
it's
not
a
big
increase,
but
based
on
where
we're
at
in
this
you
know
economic,
climate,
I,
just
I
would
personally
feel
more
comfortable,
not
taking
that
increase.
Thank.
Q
You
Council
any
other
questions
any
other
discussion
all
right.
Seeing
none
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
move
5635
dollars
from
line
a1010.51
triple
zero
Personnel
Services
to
contingency.
A
Q
F
Q
Yeah,
but
it's
it's
a
good
point
that
councilman
Scanlon
is
Raising
for
so
for
logistical
purposes,
because
our
fiscal
year
is
the
calendar
year,
and
this
would
technically
not
change
if
it
was
left
alone
until
January
one
of
this
year
we
are
essentially
being
proactive.
If
we
choose
to
do
this,
move
the
difference
to
contingency
now,
but
would
still
have
to
pass
an
RL
to
formalize
it
would
that
be
correct.
Q
Correct
Chuck
or
Laurie
I,
don't
know
if
there's
any
addition,
you
want
to
add
to
that
I'm.
G
Not
sure
yeah.
G
Q
Yes,
absolutely
for
the
budget
yeah,
so
that
would
just
because
then
we
would
have
to
essentially
go
back
and
amend
it,
so
it
would
be
doing
it
now.
So
is
there
a
motion,
councilwoman
Riley,
please
thank.
L
You
and
look
I
was
about
to
call
you
councilman
Scanlon,
councilman,
scaring
I,
don't
know
again:
I've
I've
always
advocated
for
the
salaries
of
every
employee
in
this
building,
particularly
after
some
had
to
work
extensively
during
covet,
which
I
think
as
Council
people
who
are
accessible
to
almost
24
7,
because
I've
gotten
calls
at
3,
A.M
I
think
the
onus
is
upon
the
individual
council
person
to
then
donate
their
money
back.
L
I,
don't
know
that
the
effort
that
we
put
forth
and
the
time
we
give
necessarily
again
it's
not
that
we're
doing
this
for
compensation.
But
there
are
days
when
justifiably
we
are
not
being
compensated
for
what
we
do
and
so
for
a
body
to
then
decide
to
go
against
an
ordinance
that
was
set
forth
many
years
ago,
whereas
each
person
can
allocate
that
extra
funds
to
the
charity
or
entity
they
choose
I.
Think
it's
just
something.
We
need
to
think
about.
G
Okay,
yeah
go
ahead;
I
have
no
opinion
on
this
at
all.
Okay
I'm
getting
blown
at
us,
okay,
I
will
say
the
CPI
at
7.65
is
very
high.
Okay
and
I
know
that
puts
everybody
in
a
bad
situation.
Let's
say
most
people,
but
one
of
the
things
that
was
discussed
many
times
over
the
years
since
I've,
been
here
mostly
by
former
Corp
Council
and
Frank,
is
his
thought
on
this
is
to
have
Council
vote
on
it
the
year
before
the
election.
Okay,
so
I
believe
your
election
is
up
next
year.
G
N
F
G
G
G
You
would
have
said:
okay
eliminate
that
CPI
and
legislation
this
year
and
I'm
just
making
up
a
number
for
the
following
fourth
year:
2024
to
the
end
of
that
term,
it
would
be
eleven
thousand
dollars,
eleven
thousand
five
hundred
or
increase
it
somewhat
every
year,
but
it's
done
without
the
legislators
having
to
make
that
decision.
Okay.
At
this
point,
none
of
you
have
made
a
decision.
I,
don't
think
on
whether
you're
running
or
not
and
I
think
it's
a
cleaner
transaction
for
everybody
right
and
then
that
was
Ken's
yeah.
Q
Q
Q
Yeah
because
it
was
right
before
it
was
right
before
the
re-election,
because
if
you
remember
our
in
the
last
term,
we
were
just
at
7
500
and
then
there
was
an
RL
that
kind
of
stepped
it
year
over
year.
That
raised
it
to
the
level
that
it's
currently
at
now.
So
it's
it's
actually
something
that's
just
been
added
on
within
the
last
few
years.
B
G
Yes,
so
if
you
did
legislation
between
this
day
now
and
the
end
of
the
year-
and
you
set
that
rate
next
year
and
you
would
set
up
for
24
forward
and
that
legislation
right.
B
But
just
put
my
two
cents
in
it's
kind
of
related,
but
two
different
things,
I
think
in
a
relative
sense,
you
could
say
that
the
CPI
is
is
high
for
that,
but
in
a
total
sense,
I.
Don't
think
that
that's
too
much
to
be
honest
with
you
so
hyped
to
think
in
my
mind,
we're
getting
to
an
amount
because
of
the
CPI
do
I
think
the
total
amount
for
what
we
do
is
too
high
I,
don't
think
so.
B
So
we're
probably
at
minimum
wage
when
you
factor
everything
out
to
be
honest
with
you,
I'm
just
being
honest
for
myself,
but
do
I.
Is
it
my
what's?
Is
it
my
you
know
you
look
at
your
total
or
other
things
you
do
and
stuff
like
that?
I'm.
Just
that's
just
my
that's
the
same
nice
thing
same
thing,
I
said
with
a
mayor's
salary.
B
It's
it's
not
so,
but
the
relative
change
of
percentage-wise
is
that
you
know
what
I'm
trying
to
say,
there's
and
in
my
mind
it's
it's
related,
but
two
different
things.
So.
C
Thank
you,
councilman.
It's
going
to
be
yeah,
I,
councilman,
John,
I,
I,
agree
with
you
and
I.
Think
something
that's
nice
about
using
this
ppi.
Is
that
it
it's
a
statistic
where
we're
not
saying
like
arbitrarily,
okay,
I,
think
council
members
should
make
X
number
of
dollars
and
it
is
kind
of
a
weird
position
to
be
in
to
be
voting
on
your
own
salary
or
your
own
raise,
and
we
have
it
taboo
in
our
society
about
asking
for
a
raise
or
asking
for
more
money
or
kind
of
advocating
for
what
we
are
worth.
C
As
as
workers
and
like
councilwoman
Riley
said
you
know,
I've
calculated
it
before
many
weeks,
I
make
less
than
minimum
wage
based
on
how
much
time
I
put
into
this
job.
C
And
you
know
it's
it's
a
weird
position
to
be
in
to
say:
yeah,
I'm
gonna,
give
myself
more
money,
I
I
know
that's
strange,
but
also
yeah.
We
we
put
in
or
you
know,
I
can't
speak
for
everyone
else,
but
you
know
there's
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
work
at
City
Hall,
who
I
think
deserve
to
be
making
more
money
than
they
than
they
do,
and
you
know
I
I'm
gonna,
be
honest.
C
I,
don't
feel
shy
about
saying,
yeah
I
put
in
enough
time
and
energy
into
this
job
that
I
I
am
not
shy
about.
Accepting
that
you
know.
I,
don't
have
I'm
a
young
professional
I,
don't
have
like
a
cushion
of
finances
behind
me
and
so
I
I
kind
of
like
the
CPI.
In
a
way
it's
more
objective
than
we
could
be
just
deciding
on
on
the
salary,
so
I
would
be
in
favor
of
keeping
that
little
nugget
in
there.
Thank
you
thank.
Q
You
councilman
any
other
discussion,
I
think
the
general
sentiment
from
years
past
with
respect
to
the
CPI
increases
in
that
and-
and
it
is
right
due
to
inflation-
that
the
CPI
is
pretty
excessive
this
year,
but
I
mean
I,
know
pretty
much.
All
the
people
I
represent,
there's
some
increased
by
CPI.
That's
here
so
I
think
it's
a
little
symbolic,
but
that
being
said,
I
don't
want
to
push
it
to
an
extreme.
Is
there
a
motion
to
5635
dollars
from
line
a14.0.51
triple
zero?
Two
contingency
foreign.
Q
Any
discussion
or
any
questions,
Chuck
or
Laurie,
please
feel
free
to.
If
there's
anything
you
feel
that
needs
to
know.
I
will
also
open
the
floor
to
the
Binghamton
City
Clerk.
If
he
heals
any
discussion
is
relevant
due
to
the
fact
that
for
those
watching
who
may
not
know
the
city
clerk's
office
in
the
city
of
Binghamton,
their
budget
falls
under
the
city
council's
portion
of
the
budget.
So
I
will
also
open
the
floor
to
him
if
he
has
any
points
to
have.
Q
I
was
gonna
vote
on
it
in
batch
because
it
was
on
the
City
Council
budget,
but
so
that
way
we
wouldn't
have
yeah.
That
was
the
reason
why
so
that's
fine
I
did
yeah
24
25
31.
N
B
So
the
city
clerk's
office
budget
is
virtually
the
same
as
last
year.
No
changes
you'll
notice
that
our
salaries
for
the
clerican
deputy
clerk
are
also
unchanged.
I
would
ask
tonight
that
city
council
makes
emotions
to
give
the
clerk
and
Deputy
clerk
positions
a
three
percent
raise
for
2023.
The
total
for
that
is
34.92.
B
Which
comes
out
to
1890
for
the
clerk
position
and
1602
for
the
deputy
clerk
totaling
34.92
Chuck
and
I
spoke
earlier.
B
It
looks
like
he
identified
page
74,
the
street
lighting
as
a
possible
spot
to
move
the
money
from
so
I
believe
we
would
have
to
reopen
page
74
if
anyone
is
I
do
not,
but
the
first
motion
would
be
to
reopen
page
74.
Q
B
E
E
C
C
Q
B
G
A
I
have
a
problem
with
a
three
percent
increase
and
here's
why
I
have
nothing
against
Lee
and
getting
and
his
job
they
do
or
if
we're,
giving
our
police
officers
2.25
percent
I,
don't
want
to
certainly
give
a
three
percent
raise
to
the
city
clerk
matter
of
fact
that
ever
came
for
a
two
percent
raise.
It
came
below
the
police
officers
number
of
2.25.
C
Thank
you,
councilman
G
I'm,
going
to
respectfully
disagree
with
my
colleague,
councilman
family,
and
only
because
I
I
don't
think
it's
necessarily
helpful
to
use
the
police
as
a
benchmark
for
every
other
City
employee,
and
even
if
we
were
to
do
that,
the
city
clerk
and
the
deputy
city
clerk
are
still
making
less
than
most
police
officers
and
I
was
you
know,
I'm
I'm,
happy
to
Advocate
on
the
behalf
of
the
city,
clerk
Lee
and
I
were
speaking
on
the
phone,
and
he
gave
me
some
statistics
that
the
the
clerk's
office
is
making
less
than
most
other
department
heads
and
also
less
than
other
comparable
cities
to
us.
C
Like
Schenectady
and
Troy,
like
I
mentioned
before,
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
City
Hall
who
I
feel
like
should
be
making
more
money
than
they
are
so
I
am
got.
You
know,
I
stand
by
the
emotion
to
give
them
a
raise
that
that
I
do
feel
like
they
deserve.
Thanks.
Thank.
F
Crush
my
memory
with
the
last
year,
the
year
before,
when
there
was
a
three
percent
of
grades,
and
then
there
was
also
set
amount
salary.
Can
you
remind
me
lee
how
that
worked
last
year.
Q
B
I
should
mention:
CSEA
is
receiving
three
percent
this
year
and
the
clerk
and
Deputy
clerk
positions
are
two
of
the
only
positions
in
City
Hall
that
worked
all
the
way
through
covid
and
did
not
receive
any
additional
Arbor
funds,
or
anything
like
that
or
Hazard
paying.
Okay.
A
I
make
a
motion
to
put
the
raise
to
two
percent
as
opposed
to
three
percent,
so
I.
F
I
will
second
it,
but
I
will
have
to
say
I'm
a
little
reluctant
I
just
wish
that
we
had
a
little
more
conversation
to
grow
like
this,
but
I
won't.
Second,.
B
I
make
a
comment:
president
I'll
take
responsibility
for
not.
We
should
have
put
it
through
the
employees
committee
and
up
to
the
thing
so
I'll
take
responsibility
for
that
I
apologize.
No,
we
did
not
do
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
hopefully
next
year
we
can
move
it
through
a
different
Channel.
If
it's,
if
it's
with
a
better
discussion
point
so
I'll,
take
responsibility
of
that
and
apologize
for.
Q
A
I'll
make
a
motion
to
except
page.
74
is
amended.
Q
So,
just
just
for
the
record,
Pages
24
and
74
have
been
amended
so
just
for
purposes
of
consistency.
If
we
can
wait
from
the
Comptroller
until
we
get
those
numbers
and
then
we'll
get
that
into
the
record
and
I'll
entertain
that
motion
at
that
time.
At
this
moment,
I'm
gonna
hold
off
to
keep
moving
forward.
At
this
point,
I
will
move,
I
will
open
page
66,
Animal
Control.
Q
Q
Mr
Clark
equipment
is
foreign.
B
We
did
reduce
the
equipment
line
by
a
little
bit.
He
had
some
larger
equipment
that
he
needed
to
buy
and
now
that
it's
already
purchased,
we
should
be
good.
Thank
you.
Q
B
Okay,
so
with
the
fee
schedule,
we
did
try
to
streamline
a
lot
of
our
late
fees.
B
They
were
kind
of
all
over
the
place
and
now
they're
15
splat
relate
fees
for
everything
now
and
we
did
remove
a
few
I'll
call
them
defunct
fees
that
we
don't
really
administer
anymore,
for
example,
cassette
tapes.
We
don't
get
those
out
anymore.
Q
Mr
Clark
were
any
of
these
at
least
somewhat
relevant
that
were
just
kind
of
aggregated
into
any
other
category.
Just
to
get
that
out
on
the
floor.
L
You
in
terms
of
the
late
fees,
are
you
responsible
for
following
up
on
the
timeline
and
ensuring
that
the
appropriate
who
who
actually
cites
people
for
being
late
and
then
follows
up
on
the
fees
associated.
B
So
we
do
electrician
licenses
and
plumber
licenses
and
dog
licenses.
Those
are,
you
would
incur
late
the
if
we
sent
you
a
renewal
notice,
because
those
are
renewed
yearly
and
if
you
were,
you
know
if
it's
due
on
September
1st
and
it's
September
5th.
L
N
N
G
Q
Q
N
C
We
already
did
yeah
okay,
but
when
I
made
the
motion
it
was
right.
It
was
at
eight,
no
18
cents
different.
So
I
I
made
a
motion
for
three
thousand
four
hundred
and
ninety
two
dollars,
not
three
thousand
four
hundred
ninety
one
dollars
and
eighty
two
cents.
So
I
think
if
we
were
to
amend
it
to
those
numbers,
if
I'm
correct
it
would
we
would
only
be
amending
it
by
18
cents
right,
yeah,.
C
Q
C
I'll
make
a
motion
to
move
18
cents
LOL
out
of
the
personal
services
line,
bless
you
on
page
24
budget
line
a
one,
four
one:
zero
dot;
five,
one
zero
zero
zero
into
contingency.
Q
C
Q
L
Q
Cents
with
no
interest
all
right
so
again,
can
we
just
get
one
final:
verbal
breakdown
for
the
city,
clerk
salary
and
the
deputy
city
clerk
salary
of
what
that
is.
As
a
member.
Q
Q
G
The
only
real
changes
on
here
was,
or
else
this
year
is
increasing
the
assistant
comptroller's
position,
Dollar
Wise,
so
that
it
equals
the
purchasing
agents,
salary.
Everything
else
in
the
salary
Lane
is
based
on
contracts
and
I
currently
have
a
staff
accountant.
That's
been
vacant
since
May.
C
Thank
you,
councilman
security,
okay,
so
I
know,
you
said
a
lot
of
this
has
to
do
with
contract.
Is
that
specifically
about
the
Personnel
Services.
F
O
G
C
So
the
temporary
services
line
has
decreased
significantly.
Can
you
tell
us
more
about
that?
Please,
yes,.
G
I
mean
retirees
and
people
leaving
I
didn't
budget
any
for
last
year.
Actually
we
did.
We
did
budget
one
thousand.
It
was
a
lady
that
retired
that
agreed
to
come
back
and
help
train
some
of
the
people
in
my
department.
C
G
Will
say
this
right
now:
I
didn't
budget
for
this,
but
as
I'm
thinking
about
it,
I
probably
should
have
budgeted
something:
okay,
because
I'm
just
afraid
I
don't
have
any
extra
people
in
my
department
and
if
I
have
an
AP
person
that
takes
off
for
a
week
vacation
that's
going
to
put
burden
on
another
person
to
do
that,
but
I
will
see
what
I
can
do
with
it.
Okay,.
C
And
there
was
another
the
Furniture
budget
line,
also
Deep
Creek.
Well,
so
we
budgeted
in
2022
we
budgeted
6
100
but
ended
up
adjusting
it
to
18
000
and
now
we're
budgeting
6100
Yes.
G
Again,
we
years
ago,
we
used
to
have
every
Department
had
one
or
two
thousand
dollars
worth
of
furniture.
We
took
that
away
from
everybody
put
it
in
my
budget
this
year,
the
assessor's
office
wanted
to,
let's
just
say
there
used
to
be
wooden
shelves
that
you'd
have
to
climb
up
on
a
ladder
to
get
to
the
top
to
pull
files
down.
Yeah.
G
C
Q
G
This
is
25
000
that
we
budget
to
purchase
properties
that
come
up
in
the
city,
mostly
through
the
county,
auction
or
pre-auction.
C
Thank
you
councilman
G,
so
this
is,
you
know,
I
bring
this
up,
recognizing
that
this
might
be
a
larger
discussion
than
just
a
budget
line
item,
but
I
know
that
there's
there
are,
in
my
opinion,
problems
with
the
auction
system
and
I
think
a
lot
of
properties
end
up
falling
through
the
cracks
with
you
know
that
belong
to
the
the
city
or
the
county
and
kind
of
fall
into
disrepair.
C
C
I
mean
they're
like
just
really
in
horrible
condition
and
so
I'm
wondering
what
I
guess,
what
kind
of
vetting
process
or
what
kind
of
accountability
I
guess
would
go
into
making
sure
that
this
that
the
city
purchases
property
that
doesn't
then
just
kind
of
like
fall
into
disrepair
and
then
get
scooped
up
by
slumlords.
D
G
Something
of
that
nature
and
all
the
properties
that
we
look
at
are
really
a
strategic
properties.
The
way
I
would
say
the
mayor
and
his
staff
looks
at
it.
So.
C
G
G
Q
C
G
What
I
have
and
this
one
is
the
cost
of.
G
C
Thank
you,
councilman
scramji,
I'm,
sorry,
I,
I,
just
sent
it
to
this
councilwoman
Riley
and
I
were
discussing
something,
but
can
you
I
don't
know
if
you
mentioned
why
this
funding
for
the
Fiscal
Agent
fees
is
coming
from
the
water
fund
and
the
parking
ramps
funds.
G
Q
Q
Q
G
Q
Q
Seeing
none
all
separated
out
as
it's
a
summary
page
I'll,
entertain
a
motion
to
accept
pages,
111,
112
and
113.,
so
we'll
motion
by
councilman
Scanlon
do
I
hear
a
second
second
second
by
President,
strong
all
is
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
aye
Mobile's
opposed,
nay
hearing.
None
it
passes
unanimously.
I'll
now
entertain
a
motion
to
accept
page
six.
Please
keep
in
mind
that
page
six
is
just
a
summary
page
of
three
pages
we
approved.
Q
Q
111
112
113
yep,
all
good
219
and
220.,
so
we're
looking
at
Capital
Improvements
on
page
219
and
220.
any
discussion.
You.
Q
Q
Thank
you
again
for
the
reminder.
So
again,
these
are
just
pages,
and
these
are
summary:
Pages
considered
of
219
and
220..
So
considering
that
motion
will
accept
Pages,
205
and
206.
Move
Motion
by
councilwoman
residenti.
Second,
second,
by
councilman
Scanlon,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
L
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
G
L
Thank
you
again,
councilmember
skoringi,
so
the
arpa
lines
that
we
see
here
that
are
from
2022
are
based
upon
the
approvals
we
pass
for
covet
pay
and
the
like,
and
it's
just
been
divvied
up.
G
G
L
Q
Q
Q
G
The
one
large
item
here
is
the
sales
tax.
Last
year
we
budgeted
13
million
I,
have
it
budgeted
at
14.5.
Last
year
we
did
receive
14-3
through
the
end
of
the
year
and
this
year
we're
on
schedule
to
get
closer
to
15
million,
but
I
try
to
always
be
conservative
on
those
numbers.
C
Thank
you,
councilman,
G,
okay,
so
I'm
looking
at
the
pilots
on
page,
seven
and
so
I'm,
seeing
that
this
Revenue
line
is
decreasing,
do
you
know
if
the
top
of
your
head,
which
pilot
is
no
longer
it
included.
G
N
C
G
I'll
speak
up
on
this
one
because
I
it
frustrates
me
that
these
individuals
will
go
on
Pilots,
okay
and
part
of
that
pilot
is
that
maybe
a
two
percent
increase
every
year.
Well,
the
city
has
not
increased
taxes
for
eight
years
or
seven
years,
so
they
feel
like
their
pilot,
has
gone
up.
Higher
than
taxes
are
and
they
feel
it's
not
a
good
deal.
Okay,.
N
Q
C
You
councilman
scrunchie
I,
have
one
last
question
on
this
page,
which
is
the
very
last
item
that
says
other
tax
items
relevy
of
Prior
year
exempt
property.
So
a
tax
exempt
property
is
not
necessarily
a
pilot.
G
N
M
Q
C
You
anything
I,
I,
know
it's
late,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
be
no
good
thorough
and
also
maybe
you
know,
that's
why
we
need
to
raise.
But
okay
I
am
wondering
so
I'm.
Looking
on
on
page
eight
at
the
ambulance
charges
who
is
that
a
charge
to
is
that
that,
like
individuals
or
an
insurance
company
foreign.
G
Mostly
insurance
companies
and
mostly
Medicare
okay,
but
if
a
resident
to
say
that
my
mother
ended
up
having
to
go
on
an
ambulance
and
she
has
Medicare
Advantage
plan,
they
will
bill
her
plan.
Let's
just
say
that
that
plan
pays
300
the
charge
is
600..
A
city
resident
is
not
forced
to
pay
that
additional
300..
Okay,
if
you're
outside
the
city,
you
live
outside
the
city,
we
do
go
after
those
individuals,
okay,.
G
E
C
C
I
didn't
want
to
do
this
in
three
days
because
okay,
okay
I'm
on
page
nine
right
now,
looking
at
the
the
vacant
property
registration
and
the
foreclosed
property
registration.
How
is
that
enforced.
N
N
C
Okay,
if
we
can
find
well
I
mean
voluntary,
is
in
like
in
you
know
again.
Ideally
people
would
just
do
this
of
their
own
volition,
but
if
they
don't,
then
they
might
be
prosecuted.
Q
G
Councilman
Freeman
in
all
Council,
just
to
add
something
to
this,
you
see
another
line
out
here:
foreclosed,
property,
registration
and
I
can't
speak
fully
about
it,
because
the
mayor
gave
me
a
little
bit
of
what
it
is,
but
he's
hiring
a
firm
that
is
going
to
work
with
banks
who
have
foreclosed
on
a
property
or
they
haven't
foreclosed
on
it,
and
this
is
fees
that
they
will
go
after
the
banks
that
get
that's.
Okay,.
E
G
Q
Q
Q
C
You
I
think
this
is
my
last
question.
Page
11
is
opened
correct,
yeah.
C
I
think
this
is
my
last
question,
so
the
the
interfund
revenues
line
on
page
11.
I'm,
just
in
terms
of
the
like,
the
way
that
this
is
accounted
for
it
would
would
this
not
then
cancel
out
like
these
are
revenues,
but
would
they
would
be
deducted
from
other
budget
lines?
Is
that
correct.
G
F
G
J
G
We
see
the
federal
aid
other
okay,
that
is
the
arpa
money
that
we
have
budgeted
in
this
year's
budget
to
use
next
year
for
the
different
things
that
you've
approved.
Okay,
the
one
thing
that
is
in
here,
that's
different-
that
you
have
not
approved
is
out
of
the
police,
grant
that
there's
53
000.
If
we
get
that
grant,
our
buffons
will
be
used
to
offset
the
additional
cost
and
I
can't
remember
what
the
total
cost
was
or
what
was
the
total
yeah.
C
You
I
just
I,
have
a
follow-up
question
to
that.
You
said:
arpa
money
would
be
used
to
offset
the
cost
of
the
grant
that
we
would
be.
G
F
C
G
L
G
G
Q
Q
J
Q
Q
G
So,
on
page
two,
you
can
see
the
homestead
and
non-homestead
City
rates
decreasing
very
minimally,
but
going
down.
A
Q
F
Q
E
L
Lori
is
giving
us
some
new
page
numbers,
but
before
she
gives
us
that
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
for
those
of
you
that
when
I
just
we
received
a
document
with
all
of
the
salaries
again,
so
I
was
appointed
to
the
wrong
document,
but
this
document
that
we
have
does
align
with
what
we
saw
in
our
budget.
Just
in
case
you
were
concerned,
councilman
Scanlon.
Thank
you.
I.
Q
Pages,
thank
you
for
that.
I
will
pull
I
I
will
pull
back
what
I
said
earlier.
Thank
you
for
the
correction.
Lori
I
will
open
the
city
B
schedule,
Pages
221
through
2,
30.,
221
or
2
30.
G
Q
C
I'm
sorry
can
I
ask
a
question:
yes,
okay,
so
we're
approving
and
I
know
I've
done
this
before
and
so
I
apologize,
but
we're
we're
approving
the
budget
but
then
later
voting
on
it.
Okay,.
Q
Is
it
I'm
sorry?
Is
it
a
logistical
question
you're
asking
procedurally,
okay,
so
what's
happening
now?
Is
we've
gone
through
each
page
we've
gone
through
each
section
now
this
proposed
budget
as
amended,
needs
to
be
accepted
in
Toto.
So
that
way
it
can
go
to
a
public
discussion
and
then
we
vote
on
it
at
that
point.
Okay,.
Q
C
Q
Thank
you
to
my
colleagues.
Thank
you
to
the
city
clerk's
office.
Thank
you
to
Mayor
cram.
Thank
you
to
corporate
Council.
Thank
you
to
Janine,
thank
you
invariably
invaluably,
to
Laurie
and
to
Chuck
and
to
all
of
the
Department
heads
who
put
time
into
it.
Do
I
hear
a
motion
to
adjourn
motion
by
councilman
Morales
seconded
by
councilman
Scanlon.
We
are
Jared.