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01:50 Call to Order
04:20 SEQR — 209 State Street
30:30 Public Hearing — 105 Murray Street
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E
All
right:
well,
it's
5
15.!
So
let's
get
into
this
all
right,
hello!
Everyone
welcome
to
the
april
meeting
of
the
city
of
binghamton
planning,
commission.
My
name
is
nick
corcoran,
I'm
currently
the
chairman
of
this
commission,
which
is
comprised
of
local
community
members,
tasked
with
reviewing
site
plans
and
special
use
permits
for
consistency
with
the
standards
and
criteria
set
forth
in
the
city
of
binghamton.
E
G
F
E
E
E
I
G
G
E
E
After
all,
questions
have
been
answered.
The
commission
will
deliberate
and
then
either
set
a
public
hearing
date
for
the
project
or
request
additional
information
before
proceeding
to
all
our
applicants
will
be
presenting
tonight.
We
ask
you,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
records
before
beginning
your
presentation,
and
we
ask
that
any
member
of
the
team
of
your
team,
who
will
be
speaking,
please
give
their
name
and
address
for
our
public
records
just
a
little
housekeeping.
E
So
tonight
this
meeting
is
being
conducted
in
accordance
with
chapter
one
of
the
laws
of
the
2022
of
2022,
which
in
part
authorizes
this
public
body
to
meet
and
take
action
authorized
by
law
without
permitting
in
in-person
access
to
meetings
and
authorize.
Such
meetings
to
be
held
remotely
by
conference
call
or
similar
service,
provided
that
the
public
has
the
ability
to
view
or
listen
to
such
proceedings
and
that
such
meetings
are
recorded
and
later
transcribed.
E
All
right,
so
tonight's
meeting
obviously
is
on
via
zoom.
If
anybody
would
like
to
call
in
via
phone
to
listen,
the
phone
number
is
929
205
6099
and
if
anyone
wants
to
call
in
during
the
public
hearing
portion
of
the
meeting-
I'll
repeat
the
number
at
that
point.
But
the
number
tonight
to
call
in
will
be
607
607-772-7028.
E
All
right,
so
the
first
project
for
secret
determinations
is
for
the
applicant
charles
ackerman.
The
project
address
is
209
state
street,
and
this
is
a
site
plan
review
for
a
mixed-use
building
with
ground
floor,
commercial
space
basement
studio,
gallery
space
and
11
dwelling
units
from
floors
2-4
in
the
c2
downtown
business
district.
All
right
is.
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B
G
C
C
And
so
we
are
applying
under
c2
for
the
downtown
business
district,
for
a
building
that
is
in
great
need
of
love
and
care,
and
we've
been
hired
to
design
that
building
and
to
preserve
it
and
the
historic
preservation.
Tax
credits
are
being
sought
for
this
project,
so
it
has
a
high
threshold
for
meeting
historic
preservation
requirements
by
the
state
stock
preservation
office
and
by
the
national
park
service.
C
E
C
There
we
go
okay,
so
so
there
are
four
floors
in
the
building
plus
a
basement,
and
in
the
basement
we
plan
on
having
10
artists
studios.
They
range
they're
small.
They
range
from
158
to
226
square
feet,
which
is
intentional
so
that
artists
don't
have
a
high
rent
to
pay
and
they
share
also
restrooms
a
little
kitchenette
and
some
storage
space.
C
C
Okay,
so,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
this.
This
is
the
front
of
the
building
pretty
much
as
it
was
early
in
its
history.
You
can
see
that
I'm
sorry
to
jump
to
the
facade,
but
I
wanted
to
relate
the
retail
space
to
you,
so
you
could
see
where
that
was
so.
The
left
side
of
that
of
the
building
which
it
includes
a
garage
door,
opening
that's
glazed.
C
So
it's
all
glass
you
can
see
inside
is
replacing
an
existing
garage
door,
but
that
garage
door
was
early
in
its
history,
was
added
to
the
facade
and
as
it
was
used
for
automobiles
and
the
transoms
which
are
original
to
the
building
were
altered,
we're
going
with
the
original
layout
of
the
of
the
transoms
but
the
above
the
garage
door.
At
some
point
they
heightened
those
transom.
C
So
they
were
not
in
line
with
the
original
transmits
that
you
see
here,
so
we're
keeping
we're
going
back
to
the
to
config
the
configure
and
the
garage
door
opening.
So
the
left
side
includes
the
left
hand,
doorway
the
one
window
and
then
the
and
the
garage
door-
and
I
believe,
does
it
also
have
to
go
back
to
the
plan,
but
I
think
also
that
first
door
on
the
right
hand
segment.
C
So
you
can
see
we'll
come
back
to
this,
but
I
just
wanted
to
orient
you
if
you,
if
you
don't
mind
going
back
to
the
first
floor
plan
that
we're
looking
at
okay.
So
actually
I
was
wrong
that
that
entryway
includes
the
two
windows
and
the
door
on
the
right
side
and
and
then
the
you
can
see,
that's
where
you
get
your
mail
and
so
forth.
So
the.
J
F
C
K
C
They
can
also
be
accessible
from
the
through
a
window
at
the
back,
because
they're
only
a
couple
feet
off
the
ground
in
the
back
of
the
building,
so
we
have
emergency
exit,
but
we
also
have
sprinklering
of
the
building.
So
that
is
the
reason
that
we
have
the
one
exit,
the
also
the
other
issues.
Just
so
you
understand
the
situation.
The
property
line
goes
to
the
back
of
the
building
and
does
not
include
any
space
on
the
back
and
it.
Nor
is
it
a
public
alley.
C
C
H
H
So
if
I
understood
this
correctly
now,
I
I'm
learning
now
there's
two
alternate
designs,
a
and
b,
which
is
already
I
would
like
confusing
me
but
anyways
for
the
first
floor,
the
garage
door
that's
being
replaced
by
all
glass
paints.
Will
it
will
not
be
a
working
garage
door
correct,
it
will
be,
it
will
be.
A
working
garage
door
will
be
a
working
garage
door.
C
Okay,
yes,
all
right,
and
we
have
seen
a
lot
of
this
in
some
of
the
places
that
we
work
in
corning.
For
example,
we
have
some
places
where
we
have
garage
doors
that
open
up
so
that
you
can
have
in
nice
weather.
You
can
have
outdoor
seating
if
it's
a
re,
if
it's
a
restaurant
we've
seen
that
in
projects
that
we
did
in
watkins
glen.
So
that's
the
reason
that
we're
leaving
the
garage
door
as
it
is.
C
It
was
a
very
early,
it's
a
very
early
change
too.
By
the
way
when
we
can,
we
have
some
historic
photographs,
we'd
be
glad
to
share
with
you,
okay.
So
on
this
in
the
second
story,
if
you
go
on
to
the
next
page,
please
you
can
see
that
we
have
three
units
we
have.
So
we
have
three
units
on
the
second
third
and
fourth
floor,
so
a
total
of
nine
units
on
those
three
floors.
C
We
have
our
new
stairway
that
you
see
at
the
right
and
then
we
have
a
stairway
that
connects
to
it
on
the
left.
Technically
speaking,
there
are
two
easements
on
the
building.
I'm
sorry
there
are
two,
oh,
what
are
they
called
easements?
I
guess
they
are
easements
where
charlie's
building
actually
owns
part
of
the
stairway
on
the
left
and
the
right.
C
So
in
this
particular
case,
we've
we're
utilizing
a
stairway
on
the
left,
so
the
pink
the
pink's
corridor
right
there
empties
out
into
a
corridor
that
goes
out
the
front
of
the
building
and
the.
So
you
have
two
exits
left
there
from
either
side
of
the
building.
So
we
have
a
unit
in
the
front
that
has
three
bedrooms:
it's
an
ample
sized
apartment
and
then
two
apartments
in
the
back
that
have
two
bedrooms
each
and
then
we
can
go
up
to
the
third
floor.
C
Please
thank
you
and
then
we
have
a
similar
layout.
So
all
of
the
bedrooms
have
natural
lighting.
They
each
some
of
them
have
multiple
bathrooms.
Some
of
them
have
one
bathroom
one
and
a
half
bathroom.
The
three
bedroom
has
two
bathrooms
and
again
the
exiting
left
and
right
through
the
corridor
and
then
the
fourth
floor,
which
is
in
the
next
page.
Please.
C
D
They're
attempting
to
remove
the
easement,
my
attorney
informs
me
that
it's
an
incredibly
difficult
thing
for
them
to
remove
the
easement,
but
with
that
said,
we
wanted
to
have
a
secondary
plan
in
case.
That
is
the
case.
So
we
created
this
second
version
which
would
allow
for
this
project
to
go
forward
without
having
to
utilize
the
easement.
C
C
What's
now
a
window
that
would
become
a
doorway
and
that
doorway
would
be
at
grade
as
opposed
to
at
the
floor
level
that
exists
back
there
now,
which
is
a
few
feet
above
above
grade.
I'm
not
sure
how
that
evolved
over
time,
because
there
used
to
be
a
garage
door
that
we've
infilled
on
the
right
side.
You
can
see
the
hatched
marks
on
the
wall
in
the
back
right
corner.
C
There
used
to
be
an
there
used
to
be
a
garage
door,
so
we're
filling
that
in
to
go
back
to
the
I
think,
the
very
original
layout,
and
so
everything
is
basically
the
same,
except
for
where
you
see
yes,
thank
you.
We've
now
added
a
stairway
in
that
corridor,
so
it's
taken
out
a
little
bit
of
space
out
of
the
two
units
front
and
back
in
order
to
provide
that
stairway.
C
C
We
have
ten
artist
studios
and
we
have
one
retail
space,
that's
undefined,
as
far
as
who
will
be
using
it
so
but
it'll
be
separated
from
oh.
Actually,
the
building
will
be
sprinklered
and,
as
I
said,
it's
in
the
c2
downtown
business
district
and
it
was
it's
required
that
if
you
have
more
than
five
units
in
the
downtown
business
district
that
you
are
required
to
have
to
ask
for
a
variance
and
also
in
the
c2,
there
is
no
parking
required
with
regard
to
the
code.
C
So
that
is
the
basic
analysis
of
that
building
and,
as
I
said,
charlie's
going
to
great
effort
to
restore
the
the
building
in
its
historic
configuration,
we're
leaving
in
some
walls
that
exist
on
the
upper
floors,
because
those
are
important
to
the
historic
integrity
of
the
building
and
windows.
I
think
on
the
third
floor
is
that
right,
chuck
that
we're
replacing
the
windows
on
the
third
floor
with
windows
in
keeping
with
the
historic
character?
C
C
So
you
can
see
the
condition
of
it
today
needs
a
lot
of
tlc
and
I'm
excited
to
see
how
this
building,
assuming
that
you
approve
the
project
to
move
forward,
I'm
excited
to
see
how
that
building
could
could
look
in
the
future.
Is
there
do
we
also
have
a
historic
photograph
there
after
that
last
one
that
you
just
showed
us.
E
E
D
D
D
G
H
Nick,
I
do
have
a
serious
question.
Looking
through
these
plans,
I
didn't
see
anywhere
where
garbage
was
being
collected.
What's
the
plan
for
garbage
and
recycling
collection
within
the
building
until
stuff
gets
put
out
to
the
curb
I
don't
like?
Is
there
a
dumpster
that
I
missed
or
what's
what's
the
story
here.
D
L
This
is
brian
secrets,
I'm
counsel
for
the
for
the
planning
commission.
I
can
tell
you
that
the
city
will
be
picking
up
with
the
blue
bag
system.
However,
I
know
other
buildings
that
have
been
converted.
Similarly,
that
have
issues
with
tenants
putting
it
out
illegally
and
then
there's
fines
levied
again
or
fees
levied
against
the
property
for
picking
it
up
and
it's
really
annoying
to
the
property
owner.
L
So
if
you
at
all
could
develop
a
way
to
have
a
storage
space
inside
the
building
so
that
your
tenants
have
a
place
before
they
put
it
out
to
the
curb,
so
it's
not
put
out
illegally,
it
may
work
to
your
advantage
and
it's
something
that
the
planning
commission
routinely
asked
about.
So
it's
just
something
for
you
to
think
about
before
next
month.
D
I
I
understand
it's
something
that
that
we've
looked
at
and
being
that
we
want
to
maintain
the
the
ground
floor.
I
I'm
hoping
to
put
some
sort
of
art
gallery
into
that
space
and
we're
already
pretty
small
on
that.
Really,
our
only
option
would
be
to
choose
something
up
in
the
retail
space
or
what
would
be
the
retail
space
and
we're
we're
hoping
against
doing
that.
D
L
We
understand
that
and
I'm
sure
that
you
will
absolutely
do
that.
The
issue
is
20
years
from
now,
if
you've
sold
it
to
somebody
else,
how
do
they
deal
with
it
and
I'm
not
certain?
If
maybe,
if
there's
a
space
in
like
one
of
the
artists
spaces
in
the
basement
or
something
that
could
be
used
or
I
don't
know
it's
just
something
for
you
to
think
about
it,
you
don't
have
to
do
it.
It
was
just
a
suggestion.
E
E
E
J
E
G
E
E
C
C
E
All
right
in
this
portion
of
our
meeting
we'll
be
holding
open
public
hearings
to
obtain
public
opinion
in
regard
to
specific
projects
that
are
up
for
review,
applicants
will
be
asked
to
come
to
the
microphone
and
make
a
brief
presentation
describing
their
project
for
most
projects.
This
is
the
second
time
we're
reviewing
your
information,
so
it
would
be
very
helpful
if
you
could.
Please
give
us
a
brief
overview
of
the
project,
to
remind
us
what
you're,
planning
and
then
clearly
identifying
any
changes
that
have
been
made
since
the
last
time.
E
We
saw
you
when
the
applicant
is
done
presenting
and
any
clarifications
have
been
reviewed.
We
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
allow
members
of
the
community
to
speak
about
the
applicant's
proposal
after
the
commission
has
heard
from
all
community
members
interested
in
speaking
tonight.
The
public
hearing
will
be
closed
and
the
commission
will
deliberate
to
our
applicants
when
your
project
name
is
called.
Please
come
to
the
microphone
and
start
off
by
giving
the
name
and
address
of
any
members
of
the
applicant's
team.
E
B
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
Okay,
so
we
updated
the
floor
plan
after
the
first
meeting
last
month,
and
I
think
the
biggest
change
you'll
see
is
that
we
are
providing
five
compliant
parking
spaces
at
the
back
of
the
property
and
we're
proposing
that
that
is
going
to
be
achieved
through
use
of
pervious
paving
surface.
A
A
E
E
L
Nick,
just
just
for
those
who
weren't
there
last
month,
the
reason
why
the
porch
that's
obstructing
the
driveway
can't
be
removed
is
because
it's
if
you
see
a
picture
of
it,
it's
a
historical,
you
know
molding
and
pillars.
It
contributes
to
the
historical
nature
that
that's
why
it's
a
designated
landmark
or
it's
historical
structure,
not
a
landmark,
but
it's
it's
contributing
factor
to
it,
which
is
why
it
cannot
be
removed
to
unobstruct
the
driveway.
L
B
The
parking
requirement
for
the
two
family
with
seven
total
bedrooms
was
five
vehicles.
They
provided
that
the
parking
requirement
for
congregate,
living
with
the
same
number
of
bedrooms
or
in
congregate,
living
they're
called
sleeping
rooms,
is
seven
vehicles.
So,
even
though
there's
not
a
difference
in
the
number
of
rooms,
congregate
living
has
a
higher
parking
requirement,
so
that
would
need
seven
spaces.
B
So
one
thing
to
consider
is
they've
only
provided
five.
The
planning
commission
does
have
the
authority
to
reduce
park
requirements
and,
in
particular
for
local
landmarks.
It's
encouraged
to
be
able
to
rehab
and
preserve
those
buildings.
So,
but
that's
just
something
that
you
want
to
note
is
that
the
parking
requirement
has
changed
to
seven
and
there
are
only
five
shown.
B
B
H
H
One
of
the
concerns
I
hear
often
especially
in
these
west
side
neighborhoods,
is
that
the
streets
can
quickly
get
overrun
with
too
much
on-street
parking.
If
enough,
off-street
parking
is
not
provided
so
currently
the
the
updated
plans
we're
looking
at
right
now
on
screen,
provide
for
five
and,
as
tito
or
brian
pointed
out
earlier,
the
par
the
planet
commission
does
have
the
ability
to
wave
those
extra
slots
and
let
you
go
with
five
instead
of
seven
but
I'll,
be
the
bad
guy.
You
better
convince
me,
you
need
only
five
and
not
seven.
H
K
Well,
if
you
look
at
the
five
actual
spots,
those
are
actual
parking
space.
You
have
that
entire
side
of
the
driveway,
to
put
probably
what
they're
already
doing
now
is
four
cars.
So
you
can
put
nine
cars
off
the
street
if
you
had
to
back
to
back
on
behind
each
other
in
the
parking
lot
during
a
snowstorm
during
any
kind
of
hey,
there's
no
parking
for
my
students
or
my
renters
to
park
there
really
physically
can
be
put
on
there.
K
We
have
five
spaces
to
back
out
and
drive
out
of
the
parking
lot,
but
I
have
another
four
that
they
can
park
behind
each
other,
if
not
more.
If
you
wanted
to
make
a
parking
lot,
which
I
don't
want
that
so
I
would
like-
and
normally
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
these
houses.
Don't
have
the
full
amount
of
bed
per
person
for
car
parking
and
a
lot
of
these
kids
don't
have
their
all.
K
K
That's
all
I
could.
I
would
say
on
that
and
again,
not
all
these
kids
that
are
there.
Now
this
year
I
have
four
cars
out
of
the
entire
house
that
are
staying
there,
because
we
keep
a
log
of
their
whose
cars
what
their
their
their
plate
number.
So
we
know
hey.
You
got
to
move
your
car.
What
what
have
you
we
keep
track
of
that
as
well,
so
nobody
else
is
taking
space
in
our
driveways.
K
I
H
I
won't
lie:
I'm
gonna,
let
other
people,
I'm
gonna
stew,
on
this
I'll.
Let
other
people
ask
their
questions,
but
I'm
I'm.
I
think
you
guys
all
know
who've
been
on
this
commission
with
me
for
a
while.
Now
I'm
a
I'm
a
parking
skeptic,
but
well,
let's
keep
rolling.
Let's
keep
rolling
with
other
people's
thoughts
and
questions.
A
E
E
E
E
K
Well,
all
I
can
add
to
that
is
we
just
purchased
these
properties
with
the
past
several
months
and
we
are
actually
changing
from
your
blue
bag
system
to
a
paying
for
the
service,
because
your
blue
back
system
does
not
work.
These
kids
don't
follow
instructions
properly
and
we
end
up
having
to
go
and
manage
it.
So
we've
been
adding
taylor
dumpsters
and
we've
been
and
and
putting
out
the
actual
canisters
for
them
and
trying
to
we
don't
want
to
deal
with
the
notices
of
hey.
K
You
got
to
pick
up
your
garbage,
it's
making
it
much
better
by
me,
putting
in
the
dumpsters
in
our
properties
and
adding
more
garbage
peels.
It's
just
it's
a
done
deal
they're
closed
and
it's
hit.
That's
all.
I
can
answer
on
on
that
and
I
agree
with
her
because
it's
it's
I
I
pick
up
my
garbage
and
then
the
next
yard
blows
into
it
and
we
pick
up
their
garbage
as
well.
It's
it's
just
a
a
problem:
the
blue
back
system.
K
E
H
Nick,
while
we're
waiting
for
the
for
potential
other
phone
calls
to
come
in,
let
me
if
I
may
direct
a
question
to
tito
and
brian
the
the
applicants
mentioned.
They've
got
the
outstanding
zba
approval
process
should
any
of
our
approvals
tonight
be
contingent
upon
zba
approval
or
whatever
their
next
meeting
is.
H
B
E
E
Chris,
I
appreciate
the
the
parking
comments
in
general,
I'm
almost
always
in
agreement
for
this
particular
project.
The
fact
that
they're
doing
something
with
this
building
does
does
skew
my
fighting
towards
approval
with
the
reduction
on
the
parking
for
me
just
putting
that
there.
If
anybody
else
wants
to
comment
on
the
parking
next.
G
G
K
G
G
K
L
G
K
G
L
Theoretically,
the
parking
capacity
is
increasing
with
this
project,
but
they're
going
from
having
stacked,
which
is
improper
parking
spaces
to
having
a
combination
of
approved
or
legal
parking
spaces
with
unapproved
parking
spaces
that
the
stack
spaces
that
would
that
that'll
still
exist.
That's
a
correct
statement.
H
Nick,
just
just
one
more
comment
for
me
before
I
before
I
sign
off,
I
certainly
appreciate
the
applicant
working
hard
to
go
from
stacked
parking
to
five
legal
parking
spots
here.
My
concern
is:
is
that
is
five
enough
like
do
we
really
need
to
hold
into
higher
standard
and
require
them
to
go
to
full
seven?
That's
all.
H
E
We
signed
off
on
that
last
week,
so
I'll
make
a
motion
that
the
requirements
for
the
site,
plan,
review
and
special
use
permit
have
been
met
with
the
the
stipulation
that
the
planning
commission
reduce.
This
is
the
required
number
of
parking
spaces
by
two
so
that
the
it's
okay,
that
they're
only
providing
five
parking
spaces
and
that
the
approval
is
contingent
on
getting
the
zoning
approval
for
the
variance.
B
E
C
A
E
F
E
H
G
D
E
L
Think
there's
an
option
of
that.
One
of
the
issues
is,
we
need
to
start
and
re-negotiate
getting
guards
for
out
sitting
out
the
security
considerations
and
getting
that
it
takes
a
considerable
amount
of
time
just
to
get
those
types
of
things
in
place,
sort
of
things
that
run
in
the
background
and
city
the
the
chambers
is
still
while
the
physical
structure
is
pretty
much
completed.
There
are
some
technical
electrical
stuff
that
still
needs
to
be
wrapped
up.
Okay
council
has
gone
to
the
point
where
they
can
meet
in
person.