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From YouTube: 2022.05.09 Planning Commission
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Chapters
00:00:00 Call to Order
00:02:20 SEQR Determinations
00:04:45 246 Washington Street
00:17:40 350 Main Street
00:32:30 15 Seminary Avenue
00:52:10 209-211 State Street
01:12:45 45 Carroll Street YWCA
B
A
All
right,
hello,
everyone
welcome
to
the
may
meeting
of
the
city
of
binghamton
planning.
Commission.
My
name
is
nick
corcoran,
I'm
currently
the
chairman
of
this
commission,
which
is
comprised
of
local
community
members,
tasked
with
reviewing
site
plans
and
special
use
permits
for
consistency
with
the
standards
and
criteria
set
forth
in
the
city
of
binghamton
code.
A
A
A
A
A
All
right
in
this
portion
of
our
meeting,
the
planning
commission
will
be
reviewing
documentation
provided
by
applicants.
For
the
first
time,
the
applicants
will
be
called
to
the
microphone
where
they
will
be
asked
to
make
a
presentation
describing
their
plans
to
the
commission.
Commission
members
may
then
ask
questions
of
the
applicant
to
clarify
any
items
that
are
unclear
and,
after
all,
questions
have
been
answered.
The
commission
will
deliberate
and
then
either
set
a
public
hearing
date
for
the
project
or
request
additional
information.
Before
proceeding
to
all
our
applicants
that
will
be
presenting.
F
A
Just
as
a
housekeeping
item,
this
meeting
tonight
is
being
conducted
in
accordance
with
chapter
one
of
the
laws
of
the
2022
2022,
which
in
part
authorizes
this
public
body
quote
to
meet
and
take
such
action
authorized
by
law
without
permitting
in
public
in-person
access
to
meetings
and
authorize.
Such
meetings
to
be
held
remotely
by
conference
call
or
similar
service,
provided
that
the
public
has
the
ability
to
view
or
listen
to
such
proceedings
and
that
such
meetings
are
recorded
and
later
transcribed.
A
A
And
then
we'll
talk
about
speaking
for
public
comment
a
little
bit
later
in
the
next
portion
of
our
meeting,
all
right
so
for
tonight.
Our
first
secret
determination
is
for
the
applicant
s2
properties.
Llc
project
address
is
246
washington
street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
for
the
conversion
of
an
existing
building
into
an
indoor
recreation
facility,
a
barcade
in
the
c2
downtown
business
district.
A
H
G
G
Isn't
so
much
on
on
being
more
drink
eccentric
as
much
as
entertainment,
eccentric?
You
know,
so
our
hours
will
reflect
that
and
whatnot,
but
yeah.
So
really
the
goal
is
to
create.
You
know
a
space
there
that
would
allow
us
to
have
you
know
a
full,
arcade
and,
and
hopefully
utilize,
that
kind
of
neat
neat
property,
how
it
connects
from
state
to
washington
street
and
there
was
kind
of
a
render
there
early.
You
know
on
the
top.
G
I
know
that
kind
of
shows
us
lighting
and
creating
a
pathway
to
connect
the
two,
which
I
also
think
will
be
kind
of
a
neat.
You
know
kind
of
hopefully
coinciding
with
the
arts
district.
You
know
and
and
selfishly
connecting
state
street
to
washington
street
for
the
garage
taco
bar
as
well
there.
But
no,
I
think,
I
think
you
know
it's
kind
of
a
neat
property
to
kind
of
give
that
hole
in
the
wall.
Retro
arcade
that
you
know
feels
so.
G
C
Yeah
nick
this
is
chris
yeah
hi
dan.
If
I'm
not
sure,
let
me
ask
I'm
not
sure
who's
controlling
the
screen.
Is
that
you
tito?
Yes,
can
we
go
back
to?
I
guess
the
artistic
drawing
from
this
like
the
street
view
and
that's
yeah
there
you
go.
Thank
you
so
dan
I
see
in
this
drawing
there's
appears
to
be
like
a
food
truck
on
the
left
hand.
Side
is
your:
is
the
goal
to
have
a
kitchen
on
site
to
have
a
food
truck?
J
G
It
will
have
a
hopefully
just
a
small
induction
kitchen,
meaning
pretty
much
a
very
small.
You
know
I'm
not
looking
to
have
a
full
menu.
It
will
be
very
like
small,
hands-on
type
foods.
That
would
you
know
we
will
be
operating
with
a
lot
of
arcade
games
and
whatnot.
So
I'm
not
you
know
it
will
be
kind
of
like
hand,
hand
like
hand-picked
foods,
you
know
so
one
thought
was,
you
know,
maybe
a
plug
there
for
the
garage,
a
food
truck
we
have
for
the
garage
in
the
works.
G
You
know
the
ability
to
maybe
have
vendors
pull
right
up
onto
the
property.
You
know-
and
this
is
once
again
I
think
you
said
it-
that's
an
artistic
render,
but
hopefully
a
fairly
accurate.
You
know
goal
but
yeah,
so
the
goal
would
be
to
potentially
be
able
to
have
vendors
set
up
there,
since
we
won't
be
having
a
full
kitchen.
G
C
B
If
it's
on
private
property,
we
just
treat
it
in
terms
of
zoning,
we
treat
it
as
as
a
eating
and
drinking
establishment
same
as
a
brick
and
mortar
restaurant.
Okay,
it's
the
same
land
use
in
our
zoning
code.
If
it's
on
public
property,
that's
that's
not
that's
outside
of
the
zoning
code
and
that's
that's
the
clerk's
office
and
there's
a
whole
different
set
of
rules
there.
B
K
Okay,
nick
this
is
brian.
I
would
add
that
it's
totally
proper
for
the
planning
commission,
though,
to
consider
the
impact
that
has
on
the
site
plan
and
on
the
ingress,
egress
and
the
the
aesthetics
and
all
that
as
part
of
your
site
approval.
That's
why
they
were
wise
to
include
it
on
your
drawing.
So
you
knew
what
you
were
considering
when
you
considered
it.
G
Right
and
that,
obviously
this
would
be
our
our
hopes
and
that's
why
we
kind
of
put
it
in
there,
but
yeah
I
mean,
obviously,
if
it
if
it
doesn't
coincide.
You
know
with
the
with
the
the
city
where
we're
we're,
obviously
wanting
to
to
make
everyone
happy
here
so
but
yeah.
That
would
hopefully
be
the
goal
to
allow
that.
G
I
Good
good,
just
a
quick
question
on
the
aesthetics
I
saw
in
the
drawings,
you're
you're
thinking
a
chain
link
fence
for
the
the
courtyard
area,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
considered
any
other
style
offenses.
I
love
the
the
partitions
at
the
garage,
and
maybe
your
needs
are
different
at
this
site.
But
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
considered
any
other
or
if,
if
that
is
even
just
a
placeholder.
G
Sure
so
I
actually
I
it
was
it's
something
we
could
definitely
consider.
I
actually
went
with
the
chain
link
on
this.
I
got
a
color,
not
just
a
galvanized
but
like
a
a
plastic
coated
black
personally,
just
because
maybe
aesthetically
for
like
what
we're
trying
to
keep
that
garage
feel
I
kind
of
felt
it.
G
You
know
in
a
more
casual
thing,
I
kind
of
like
the
aesthetic
and
also
the
ability
to
have
a
large
roll
gate
which,
if
you
look
closely,
it
would
kind
of
give
us
that
ability
to
open
and
close
that
area.
If
you
can
kind
of
see
how
there
is
that
roll
gate
there,
but
yeah,
it
would
just
be
the
easiest
way
to
get
that
kind
of
opening
as
well.
Gotcha.
G
A
G
G
So
as
we
work
with
the
architect
further,
I
know
we
want
to
add
some
more
greenery
to
to
that
the
patio
space
and
also
kind
of
explore,
potentially
temporary
planners,
not
full
on,
but
in
those
alleyway
you
know
so
that
that
way
we
could
have
some
nice
greenery
and
then
you
know,
obviously,
when
the
weather
changes
here
be
able
to.
You
know,
move
that
around
for
snow
removal.
E
G
I
A
A
L
B
A
G
B
A
All
right,
so
our
next
secret
determination
tonight
is
for
the
applicant
bertheny
permission.
Project
address
is
350
main
street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
to
establish
a
convenience
store
in
an
existing
commercial
space
in
the
c1
service,
commercial
district.
All
right
is
there.
Anyone
on
for
the
350
main
street
project.
M
A
M
M
M
We
have
a
meeting
wednesday
with
building
construction
and
code
enforcement
to
walk
through
the
structure
and
begin
to
develop
plans
that
allows
them
to
permit
such
use
in
the
building.
It's
a
one-story
building
with
a
full
basement.
It's
less
than
four
thousand
square
feet
total.
It's
pretty
small
and
we're
just
looking
to
get
mr
permission
in
there
working
and
approved.
M
Go
ahead:
ask
about
the
garbage
I
notice
this
is
jeff,
I'm
going
to
jump
back
in
here.
Assuming
that
question
will
be
coming.
You
do
not
see
anything
noted
on
our
site
plan
for
that.
The
adjacent
property
which
would
be
west
immediately
west
is
also
pacemaker,
steel.
They
are
allowing
mr
permission
to
use
that
site,
and
that
is
where
there
is
an
enclosed
garbage
container
located.
B
C
Nick
this
is
chris,
yes,
and
this
question
is
probably
first
directed
by
either
brian
or
to
tito.
Do
I
don't
know
if
I've
ever
as
long
as
I've
been
on
the
I've,
only
been
on
the
planning
commission
for
a
couple
years?
Now?
I
don't
know
if
everyone
was
seeing
this
issue
where
a
neighboring
property
in
order
to
allow
them
to
do
locate
the
dumpster
or
the
trash
receptacle.
B
So
the
well
pacemaker
owns
both
lots
and
so
they've
already
signed
off
on
the
application.
So
we
would
just
need
to
note
it
on
the
site
plan.
I
guess
it
wouldn't
hurt
to
amend
the
application
to
include
the
address
next
door
and
then
update
and
get
an
updated
signature
from
the
property
owner
since
that
wasn't
officially
part
of
the
application
when
it
was
first
submitted.
K
K
B
And
then,
as
part
of
having
multiple
lots
in
one
site
we
have
we
have.
We
have
had
that
before
a
lot
of
times
it's
with
parking,
where
parking
will
be
on
an
adjacent
ladder
and
a
lot
across
the
street,
but
that's
not
uncommon
and
we
just
need
the
property
owner
of
all
parcels
included
in
the
site
to
sign
the
application.
G
M
M
And
so
the
entire
site,
both
sites
that
we're
talking
about,
are
100,
covered,
impervious
building
and
and
paving
so
right
now
we're
just
kind
of
showing
striping.
So
we
can
designate
the
spots
so
the
adjacent
site,
if,
if
pacemaker,
is
allowing
bertone.
Mr
permission
to
use
that
for
parking,
we'll
show
the
best
we
can
with
that
that
tight
site,
the
yellow.
K
K
B
E
M
Yes,
yep,
and
it
would
be
good
in
my
opinion,
it
would
be
good
to
have
something
designated
clearly.
People
do
pull
in
and
pull
out
pretty
quickly
and
as
the
image
on
the
screen
shows,
I
mean
that
that
makes
a
lot
more
sense
to
use
the
adjacent
lot,
because
it's
larger,
I
just-
cannot
speak
for
for
pacemaker
at
this
point.
E
M
Yes,
certainly-
and
I
think
mr
permission
would
would
agree
with
that
at
this
point-
he's
just
trying
to
get
up
and
running
legally
and
get
all
the
approvals,
and
we
can,
you
know,
certainly
help
him
out
with
redesigning
that
site,
as
he
gets
really
busy
what
we
do
show
on
the
site
plans.
We
do
show
a
designated
space
for
bicycle
parking
in
some
sort
of
landscaped
area
in
that
east,
southeast
corner
of
the
site.
B
H
A
E
M
B
K
E
A
E
A
Questions
or
comments
I'll
make
a
motion
that
the
applicant's
proposal
involves
the
establishment
of
a
non-residential
facility
under
4
000
square
feet,
which
is
a
secret
type,
2
action
and
no
further
environmental
review
is
required
and
that
we
should
schedule
a
public
hearing
for
the
project.
At
our
june
meeting
at
5,
30.
L
A
A
All
right,
our
next
secret
determination
is
for
the
applicant
amicus
new
york.
Llc
project
address
is
15
seminary
ave.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
to
construct
a
new
two-story
dwelling
with
two
five-bedroom
units
in
the
r2
one
and
two
unit,
dwelling
district,
all
right.
Anybody
on
for
15,
seminary,
f.
M
It's
been
a
long
time.
We've
done
a
new
residential
property
here
in
the
city
and
so
what
we're
proposing,
because
it
it
is
not
going
to
be
a
two
family
it'll,
be
congregant
living,
so
five
individuals
unrelated
to
each
other.
We
are
proposing
a
two-story
quote-unquote
two-family
in
the
district
which
is
allowed
by
zoning.
M
What
you
see
on
the
screen
right
now
is
a
design
study
in
the
front
elevation.
We
do
want
this
to
blend
into
the
street
escape
that
is
there.
So
you've
seen
a
front
porch
street
facing
gable,
some
sort
of
maybe
bracketing
for
the
gable
some
sort
of
interesting
siding
so
that
it
blends
in
and
does
not
stand
out.
M
We
are
working
with
the
applicant
now
to
not
put
in
a
full
basement.
There's
really
no
reason
and
with
the
crazy
weather
and
storms
we
can
can
locate
the
utilities
up
out
of
that
space.
Just
saves
additional
sight,
disturbance
and
and
costs
we're
providing
off
street
parking
in
the
rear
and
we're
really
looking
forward
to
doing
something
something
brand
new,
especially
in
this
in
this
neighborhood.
M
You
know
you
do
hear
a
lot
of
people
talk
about
the
challenges
with
you
know,
student
housing
and
that
and
what
our
experience
with
amicus
is
that
they're
looking
to
mitigate
those
challenges
and
be
good
neighbors.
So,
on
the
site
plan
you'll
see,
we
do
have
a
designated
trash
storage
in
the
rear
fenced
in.
We
are
keeping
a
little
bit
of
landscape
space
in
the
rear
to
fill
in.
So
it's
not
completely
covered
with
parking
based
on
the
zoning
and
lock
coverage,
of
course
we're
trying
to
maximize
the
size
of
the
buildings.
M
We
can
get
five
adequate
size
bedrooms
in
each
level
and
working
towards
the
lot
coverage
we
are
providing
pervious
paving
for
the
drive
and
the
parking
area.
The
site
would
be
really
really
difficult
to
develop.
If,
if
we
were
going
with
impervious
surface
for
the
parking
in
the
drive,
I
don't
recall
the
history
of
of
the
building
that
was
there
before
in
the
rear.
There
is
a
an
existing
garage
that
will
be
removed
and,
of
course,
the
concrete.
M
The
partial
parts
of
concrete
drive
that
lead
up
to
that
garage.
We're
also
showing
some
some
locations
for
some
sort
of
building
mounted
site
lighting.
One
tenant
will
have
access
the
upper
the
upper
floor.
Tenant
will
have
access
to
their
space
from
the
front
of
the
building
the
front
porch
the
lower
floor.
Tenant
will
have
the
same,
they'll
be
adjacent
to
each
other,
the
doors,
but
the
the
first
floor.
Tenant
will
also
have
a
side,
slash
rear
entrance
as
well.
M
What
we're
finding
is
that
we
have
to
show
a
certain
amount
of
parking
on
site
and
there
will
be
the
students
that
you
know
have
a
car
and
leave
it
until
they
go
home
on
break,
and
then
there
are
other
students
who
are
taking
the
mass
transit
anybody
seen
the
blue
buses
in
the
neighborhood
it's
busy.
So
we
want
to
make
sure,
there's
a
front
door
for
everybody,
as
well
as
a
convenient
rear
access
to
the
best.
M
What
you
are
seeing
the
floor
plan
now
again
as
a
study
in
the
in
the
front
street
side
is
actually
living
space
and
although
the
sleeping
space
is
pushed
to
the
rear,
but
this
footprint,
what
we
did
was
we
kind
of
maximized
the
size
of
the
building
and
we're
going
to
address
its
aesthetics
better
as
we
move
forward
as
well
as
look
to
shrink
the
footprint
right
now.
The
bedrooms
are,
are
sized
nice
with
closets
and
storage,
but
the
living
spaces
in
the
front
might
be
too
large
for
five
students
living
together.
B
B
Living
timely
living
has
a
different
parking
requirement,
so
they
they
would
meet
all
requirements
for
either
use
except
parking,
because
the
parking
requirement
for
congregate
living
is
one
space
per
bed
so
that
they
would
need
10
spaces,
whereas
if
it
was
a
two
unit
dwelling,
they
would
need
only
six,
the
main
difference
being
that
congregate.
Living
allows
unrelated
individuals
to
live
together.
M
And
so
tito,
just
jeff,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
jump
in
when
we
talked
about
105.
You
know
seminary.
We
were
going
through
with
the
parking
yeah
and
dealing
with
that
is
congregate,
living
as
well
right
in
this
zoning,
two
dwelling
unit,
four
or
five
bedrooms
is
allowed
with
a
special
use
permit.
So
I
maybe
I
misunderstood
two
unit
versus
two
family
versus
con
congregant.
B
M
H
F
You
know
this
is
kyle.
Could
I
ask
a
quick
question?
I
just
I
I'm
here
on
the
line
too,
but
I
was
just
gonna
ask
a
quick
question
because
I
know
we
met
on
a
tuesday
session
for
this,
and
I
was
under
the
impression
that
in
the
this
particular
zoning
district
there
was
no
option
for
congregate
living.
So
we
were,
we
put
this
application
in
as
the
one
and
two
dwellet
dwelling
unit,
but
the
special
use
permit
is
for
the
fact
that
each
unit
would
have
five
bedrooms.
F
B
L
B
That's
our
mistake
from
the
staff
report
so
again,
concrete
living
is
not
permitted,
so
the
six
parking
spaces
would
be
enough
for
a
two
unit.
Dwelling
and
again,
you
meet
all
the
other
requirements
for
a
two
unit.
Dwelling
just
want
to
note
on
the
record
that
unrelated
individuals,
more
than
three
unrelated
individuals
are
technically
not
allowed
to
occupy
a
unit
in
this
zoning
district.
B
B
Yeah,
so
you
are
in
the
r2,
we
just
confirmed
that
and
you
do
meet
the
the
plans
you
presented
are
fine
for
a
two
unit
dwelling
you
meet
the
parking
requirements.
You
meet
the
additional
regulations
for
five
unit
dwellings,
five
bedroom
dwelling
units
it
just.
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
on
on
the
record
about
the
congregate
living
use
that
that's
not
allowed
here.
B
Yeah
so
in
this
zoning
district
dwelling
units
have
to
be
occupied
by
a
family
or
the
equivalent,
the
functional
equivalent
to
a
family,
and
the
zoning
code
elaborates
on
what
that
means.
They
don't
have
to
be
blood,
relatives
or
relatives
by
marriage,
but
they
do
have
to
function
like
a
family
if
this
was
if
this
were
the
r3
and
congregate
living
were
allowed,
congregate
living
provides
for
unrelated
people
to
live
in
one
apartment,
but
again
this
is
the
r2,
and
so
this
is
a
two
unit.
B
C
Nick
this
is
chris.
I
I
want
to
provide
one
piece
of
potential
feedback
for
both
jeff
and
for
kyle.
If
you
guys
decide
you
do
want
to
pursue
this
this
process
to
change
this
into
a
congregate
living
legally
allowed
to
business.
Following
the
procedure
that
you're
going
to
talk
to
tito
about
offline,
I
just
want
to
alert
you
both
so
you're
not
caught
off
guard.
Yes,
some
of
us
and
I
will
proudly
raise
my
hand
as
one
of
those
yeah,
our
real
sticklers
for
the
parking.
C
M
C
A
M
I
based
on
the
fact
that
is
my
understanding
that
this
would
be
congregate
living.
I
guess
you
got
to
do
what
you
need
to
do.
I
I
think
I
need
to
advise
my
client,
and
I
can't
do
that
at
the
moment.
It's
not
on
the
phone
or
available.
I
would
like
to
get
that
this
week.
So
as
a
two
family,
I
think
we're
we're
okay,
but
yeah.
I
don't
know
I
I
would
say
rather
than
deny
it
if
we
could
just
table
it,
that
would
probably
be
the
best.
A
K
Nick
I
was
just
gonna
advise
this
is
brian
secrets:
the
corporate
council.
You
can
always
schedule
for
public
hearings
and
if
they
at
their
option,
want
to
pull
back
after
next
week.
That's
their
option
to
do
that.
It
would
have
to
be
rescheduled,
but
if
they
want
to
ask
for
to
be
tabled
at
some
point
after
this,
that's
always
their
option,
but
you
could
move
it
forward
as
a
two
family
tonight.
E
A
A
M
B
A
B
E
A
A
E
A
A
All
right
in
this
portion
of
our
meeting,
we
will
be
holding
open
public
hearings
to
obtain
public
opinion
in
regard
to
specific
projects
that
are
up
for
review.
Applicants
will
be
asked
to
come
to
the
microphone
and
make
a
brief
presentation
describing
their
project
for
most
projects.
This
is
the
second
time
we're
reviewing
your
information,
so
it
would
be
very
helpful
if
you
could.
A
Please
give
us
a
brief
overview
of
your
project,
to
remind
us
what
you're,
planning
and
then
clearly
identify
any
changes
that
have
been
made
since
the
last
time
we
saw
you
when
the
applicant
is
done
presenting
and
any
clarifications
have
been
reviewed,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
and
allow
members
of
the
community
to
speak
about
the
applicant's
proposal
after
the
commission
is
heard
from
all
community
members
interested
in
speaking
tonight.
Public
hearing
will
be
closed
and
the
commission
will
delivery
to
our
applicants
when
your
project
name
is
called.
A
Please
come
to
the
microphone
and
start
off
by
giving
your
name
and
address
of
any
members
of
the
applicant's
team.
That
is
planning
to
speak
and
to
anyone
from
the
community
that
will
be
speaking
in
regards
to
a
project
tonight.
Please
also
start
off
by
stating
your
name
and
address
for
our
records
tonight.
A
A
All
right
so
tonight,
our
one
and
only
public
hearing
is
for
the
applicant.
Charles
ackerman
project
address
is
209
to
211
state
street,
and
this
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
for
a
mixed
use.
Building
with
ground
floor
commercial
space,
11
dwelling
units
and
10
studio
galleries,
studio,
slash
galleries
in
the
c2
downtown
business
district.
N
N
G
G
N
G
P
P
P
I
believe
that
you're
looking
at
version
one
because
we
do
have
a
an
easement
question
going
right
now,
so
we
have
one
version
that
involves
an
easement,
which
is,
I
believe,
the
one
that
you
have
up
on
the
screen
right.
This
second
and
a
second
version
that
does
not
include
the
easement.
That
is
the
version
that
does
not
include
the
easement.
N
N
N
Thank
you,
sorry.
I
was
trying
to
add
it
up.
So
the
only
difference
being
in
this
option
we
have
the
top
left
apartment
has
only
one
bedroom,
but
the
others
have
two
and
three
bedrooms.
Most
of
them
have
two
bedrooms.
So
the
way
we
have
planned
this
out
is
the
11
units
with
10
studios
in
the
lower
level.
N
That's
intended
to
be
space
for
artists
in
the
community
to
rent
out
their
smallish
units
and
they're
intended
to
to
be
affordable
for
people
to
I
mean
affordable
in
the
general
sense
of
the
word,
affordable
for
people
to
be
able
to
rent
and
included
their
bath
is
a
bathroom
and
a
kitchenette,
and
you
can
see
that
there
is
two.
There
are
two
exits
out
of
the
building.
N
N
N
N
There
we
go
so
the
windows
will
be
restored
because
it
is
a
historic
preservation,
tax
credit
project.
It
has
to
meet
the
highest
threshold
of
requirements
by
the
state
of
stock
preservation
office
and
the
national
park
service,
so
those
windows
will
all
be
reconstructed
or
restored
depending
on
which
floor
it
is
most
of
them
are,
are
missing,
so
we
have
to
we're
making
new
ones
to
match.
What
was
there?
Originally,
you
can
see
that
the
second
floor
we're
maintaining
that
beautiful
set
of
five
windows
across
the
front
and
on
the
storefront.
N
You
can
see
that
we're
maintaining
we're
going
back
to
the
original
transom
layout
with
the
transoms
above
every
window
and
door
and
there's
a
currently
a
a
garage
door
that
was
in
place
historically
for
a
long
time.
So
we're
maintaining
that.
But
it's
going
to
be
a
glass
garage
door
so
that
you
can
see
into
the
retail
space
depending
on
what
it
is.
You
know
if
it's
a
small
eating
place
or
if
it's
a
retail
whatever
it
is,
there
will
be
the
option
to
open
up
and
get
open
air
in
in
the
summertime.
N
You
know
into
the
space.
So
we
feel
that
it's
a
good
restoration
rehabilitation
of
the
building,
adaptive
reuse
and
we're
really
pleased
to
have
the
opportunity
to
present
this
to
you
and
I'm
excited
for
what
it
will
do
for
your
arts
neighborhood
there
in
binghamton
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
P
There
is
a
almost
hundred
year,
easement
at
the
building
next
door,
that
is
in
litigation
right
now
to
decide
if
it
is
still
associated
with
very
difficult
things
to
deal
with
difficult
things,
to
remove
difficult
things
to
add,
and
it
could
take
anywhere
from
two
months
to
three
years
to
figure
out.
So
with
that
in
mind,
I
want
to
be
able
to
have
two
options
to
go
forward,
both
of
which
will
meet
planning
desires
for
the
community.
N
So
and
I
want,
if
I
could
add,
you
can
see
the
second
floor
plan-
that's
up,
it
illustrates
the
different
exiting
strategies.
So
you
see
across
from
side
to
side
is
a
kind
of
a
pink
colored
corridor
and
on
the
right
side
it
leads
to
the
stairway
going
out
that
will
lead
out
the
front
and
on
the
left
side
it
leads
into
the
corridor.
That
was
an
original
stairway
that
served
both
this
building
and
the
building
to
the
left,
and
it's
really
just
a
quarter
and
stair.
K
N
K
C
K
P
K
P
Well
so
with
that
said,
I
mean
I'm
probably
leaning
that
we
do
review
plan
two,
but
with
that
said,
the
easement
is
in
place.
Engagement
would
not
require
any
sort,
not
an
attorney,
but
an
easement
wouldn't
require
any
sort
of
permissions
or
otherwise
the
easement
is
in
the
deed.
So
it's
not
like
a
special
request
or
a
favor
or
anything.
A
A
K
Only
issue
that
I
foresee
the
only
problem
I
foresee
is
that
if
you
do
that
they
take
option
one
and
the
easement
is
extinguished.
Somehow
that
would
leave
the
building
without
a
second
means
of
egress,
but
there
would
have
been
pre-approved
to
build
the
second
option
too.
The
problem
would
be
is
that
they
would
have
I'm
not
sure
if
they
could
well
they'd
be
taking
a
risk.
Then
I
think
that
they're
well
aware
they'd
be
taking
a
risk.
That's
a
substantial
outlay
of
money
to
rebuild
after
they've
already
done.
One
of
these
plans.
P
The
we
are
going
to
move
forward
with
what
we
need
to
go
forward
with,
but
I
would
very
much
appreciate
if
the
planning
commission
could
get
your
infinite
wisdom
to
take
both
of
them
and
whatever
we
decide.
Obviously,
if
we
don't
have
a
second
ingress,
we
don't
have
a
a
legally
functioning
building
and
I'll
be
condemned,
and
then
it's
really
not
the
planning
commission's
problem.
At
that
point,
then
I
got
code
problems
and
fire
department
problems
and
so
on.
K
E
A
All
right:
well,
let's
do
this,
let's,
let's
open
the
public
hearing
and
see
if
there's
anybody
who
would
like
to
talk
about
the
project
speak
about
the
project
and
then
we'll
circle
back
and
talk
about
the
approval
right
at
the
end
there
right.
So
this
is
the
public
hearing
for
the
applicant
charles
ackerman,
and
the
project
address
is
209
to
211
state
street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
for
a
mixed-use
building
with
ground
floor
commercial
space,
11
dwelling
units
and
10
studio,
slash
galleries
in
the
c2
downtown
business
district.
I
A
A
All
right,
seeing
no
questions
or
comments
I'll
make
a
motion
that
the
applicant
has
met.
The
requirements
for
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
and
I'll
make
that
motion
based
on
either
of
the
options
that
have
been
presented
would
be,
would
meet
the
requirements
for
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit,
and
the
condition
is
just
that,
once
the
applicant
decides
which
direction
they're
going
to
head.
D
K
K
B
B
K
A
I
O
I
represent
files
construction
and
on
the
screen
also
is
rich
vitto
and
he's
the
architect
for
the
project
and
really
our
goal
is
to
it's
really
understand
what
is
permissible,
given
the
existing
conditions
and
what
would
be
acceptable
because
we'd
like
to
get
a
final
site
plan
into
you,
but
we
wanted
to
talk
to
the
planning
board.
First,
okay,
so
that's
really.
What
we're
doing
here
is
just
trying
to
see
if
what
expeditions
are
acceptable
to
keep
and
go
there
so
rich.
Do
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
lead
her
into
your
question?.
Q
Okay,
so
do
we
need
an
introduction
of
the
product
of
the
project
right,
so
the
binghamton
y
is
proposing
to
well
they've
they've
purchased,
a
group
of
sites
at
the
corner
of
lyle
and
carroll
street,
and
we
have
one
of
one
of
which
is
the
old.
Is
the
urban
league
building
and
two
of
the
properties,
I
believe,
are
city
owned
and
are
going
to
be,
hopefully
with
planning
commission
approval
deeded
over
to
the?
Q
Why
and
the
proposed
project
is
to
rebuild
the
and
renovate
the
urban
league
building
to
provide
a
future
home
for
their
young
wonders
a
child
care
center
expansion
of
of
young
wonders,
which
currently
is
housed
in
the
ground
floor
at
the
y
and
to
provide
a
residential
building
for
60
units,
and
I
believe
it's
carlos
senior
and
is
it?
Is
it
just
senior
or
are
there
other.
O
O
Q
O
Q
Q
We
have
front
setbacks,
rear
setbacks,
the
there
are
two
items
that
would
require
waivers.
That
is,
that
the
current
design
builds
to
the
the
property
lines.
So
it
does
not
provide
side
yards
which
the
buildings
currently
on
the
site
right
now
do
do
not
provide
side
yards.
So
I
guess
we'd
be
kind
of
saying
that
we're
not
doing
something
dramatically
different
than
what's
there
now
and
as
well
a
parking
waiver,
because
the
occupancy
of
the
residential
building
would
be
housing.
People
who
would
have
known
would
not
have
cars.
O
O
Q
O
There's
one
piece
of
the
building
we're
tearing
down
that
we're
going
to
leave
in
place
because
it
butts
the
existing
structure.
That's
remaining
so
we
are
going
to
leave
that
one
extension
off
the
existing
multi-family
building
and
not
so
we
didn't
even
have
to
we
didn't-
have
to
get
close
to
the
existing
structure,
we'll
just
reuse
that
piece
of
it.
K
K
O
Right,
there's
two
empty
laps:
lots
that
the
city
is
voted
to
transfer
to
us
and
the
existing
building
the
abuts,
the
one
on
the
corner,
the
one
on
the
corner,
we're
not
acquiring,
but
the
we're
going
to
take
down
that
114
unit
building.
But
we're
going
to
leave
that
little
10
foot
portion
of
that
existing
building.
We're
going
to
leave
that
there.
So
as
we
don't
get
anywhere
to
interrupt
the
building
on
the
corner.
B
B
B
Q
B
You
you
would
submit
a
formal,
we
don't
have
a
formal
application
or
site
plan
yet
so
so
you
would
submit
that
and
then
there
would
be
a
two
meeting
process
for
the
planning
commission.
They
would
have
a
first
initial
meeting
to
review
the
plans,
determine
the
type
of
action
and
then
they
would
schedule
a
public
hearing
for
the
month.
After
that,
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
can
meet
at
any
point,
because
the
zoning
board
of
appeals
is
just
one
meeting,
so
they
can
meet
at
any
point
before
final
planning.
Commission
meeting
right.
O
C
Okay,
I'm
not
sure
why
I
should
be
directing.
I
think
both
people
listed
as
carl,
so
I'm
not
sure
who
I'm
really
directing
the
question
to
so
I'll
address
it
to
both
carl
guys,
the
one
with
the
photo
and
one
that
you
have
so
for
those
of
us
who
are
not
familiar
with
the
current
ywca
housing
situation.
C
Q
Q
R
Okay,
so
my
name
is
teresa
beauvier
for
those
that
don't
know,
I'm
the
chief
operations
officer
and
I've
been
at
the
y
17
years,
so
the
type
of
housing
we
do
there
is
extremely
low
income,
so
the
new
project
won't
be
extremely
low.
Is
this
affordable
housing?
But
what
we're
getting
at
with
the
parking
is.
We
were
actually
doing
some
of
our
like
parking
questions
over
the
last
week
or
so
over
the
course
of
the
years
I've
been
there.
R
Given
time
it's
just
so
it
was
kind
of
that.
You
know
the
the
population
we
will
be
serving
at
lyle
and
carroll
is
affordable,
housing
and
I
wanted
to
kind
of
go
back
to.
There
will
be
30
units
designated
for
frail
elderly,
it's
another
ishai
project
and
the
other
30
will
be
mixed
between
low-income
families
singles.
C
R
R
They
give
the
supportive
housing
agency
25
000
a
year
to
provide
support
services
to
each
household
within
that,
so
it
pays.
The
biggest
portion
of
the
eshai
funds
every
year
goes
to
rental
assistance
and
paying
the
staff.
So
there
are
offices
on
site
that
work
with
the
eshai
families,
that's
what
they're.
So
in
that
case
the
population
be
frail
elderly.
R
The
whole
premise
behind
the
eshai
funding
is
to
stop
the
cycle
of
homelessness,
so
they
will
always
have
their
rent
paid
in
full
up
to
the
fair
market.
Rent
value,
the
case
managers
work
to
make
sure
they
have
income
benefits
coming
in
that
they're
getting
their
medical
needs
they're
getting
connected
to
like
referral
services,
maybe
for
substance
use
or
mental
health.
R
C
C
Q
K
I
think
the
answer
I've
always
given
you
is
that
really
no,
but
the
solution
to
that
issue
is
to
consider
it
with
that
repurposing
in
mind.
What
would
you
if
this
wasn't
the
ywca
someone
was
just
building
this
there?
What
would
you
want
to
see
there
and
how
would
you
mitigate
its
impact
on
the
neighborhood
and
that's
sort
of
how
you
address
that?
That's
what
you're
doing
when
you
do
this
shaker
analysis.
K
C
So
if
I
understand
this
correctly,
the
the
60
units
that
the
intended
to
be
put
into
this
new
construction
at
the
corner
of
lyle
and
carroll
are
going
to
be
replacing
other
units
elsewhere
that
are
owned
currently
by
the
y,
like
I
know,
there's
a
spot
on.
I
don't
know
if
it's
I
think
it's
holly
and
something
paulie
and
exchange
street.
I
think
that's
the
ywc
building,
I'm
familiar
with.
R
K
D
I
K
Q
J
O
K
F
K
And
storm
water-
maybe
storm
water.
That
was
the
one
I
raised
the
first
at
first,
yes
yeah.
How
are
you
going
to
address
those?
And
that's
just
and
that's
just
raises
it-
comes
up
because
of
the
size
of
the
development,
the
state's
going
to
make
you
look
at
that.
The
other
thing
that
I
can
see
is
given
its
proximity
to
the
corner,
where
your
ingress
is
an
egress.
Is
the
parking
like
behind
the
building
at
the
rear
property
line?
E
H
Q
K
Q
K
K
They
just
passed
the
new
law
saying
we
have
to
adopt
it,
but
at
the
very
end
it
says
you
know
as
long
as
there's
a
state
of
emergency
effect,
the
this
these
old
rules,
meaning
the
rules,
are
operated
right
now
still
apply
so
they're,
clearly
hinting
that
they're
planning
on
going
lifting
that.
But
at
the
same
time,
every
time
we
get
close
to
the
deadline
like
a
day
or
two
before
they
push
it
out
another
two
months
or
three
months.