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From YouTube: 2022.09.12 Planning Commission
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0:00:00 — Call to Order
0:01:55 — 221 Washington Street
0:29:30 — 25 Doubleday Street
0:41:00 — 49 Court Street
1:14:30 — 168 Water Street
1:20:50 — Student Housing Legislation
2:04:00 — Cannabis Business Legislation
2:15:08 — Rezoning of 187 Clinton Street
A
All
right
does
that
mean
we
can
do
the
real
deal.
C
A
Right,
perfect:
well,
all
right,
hello!
Everyone
welcome
to
the
september
meeting
of
the
city
of
binghamton
planning,
commission.
My
name
is
nick
corcoran,
and
I
am
currently
the
chairman
of
this
commission,
which
is
comprised
of
local
community
members,
tasked
with
reviewing
site
plans
and
special
use
permits
for
consistency
with
the
standards
and
criteria
set
forth
in
the
city
of
binghamton
code.
A
Based
on
our
total
number
of
planning
commission
members,
four
members
must
be
present
to
constitute
a
quorum
based
on
the
list
of
attendees.
It
looks
like
we
do
have
a
quorum,
but
let's,
let's
do
roll
call
to
make
sure
all
right,
so
mario
defaultio
paul
o'brien
here
joe
d'angelo,
is
not
going
to
be
with
us
tonight.
Chris
judges.
A
Kelly
weiss
present
and
manny
priest
here
all
right
and
I'm
here.
So
that
means
we
have
six
and
we
do
have
a
quorum
and
can
proceed.
A
Okay,
all
right
so
no
minutes
all
right.
So
then,
our
first
item
on
the
agenda
are
seeker.
Determinations
in
this
portion
of
our
meeting,
the
planning
commission
will
be
reviewing
documentation
provided
by
applicants.
For
the
first
time,
applicants
will
be
called
to
the
microphone
where
they
will
be
asked
to
make
a
presentation
describing
their
plans
to
the
commission.
A
Commission
members
may
then
ask
questions
of
the
applicant
to
clarify
any
items
that
are
unclear.
After
all,
questions
have
been
answered.
The
commission
will
deliberate
and
then
either
set
a
public
hearing
date
for
the
project
or
request
additional
information
before
proceeding
to
all
applicants
who
will
be
presenting
tonight,
we
ask
that
you,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
our
records
before
beginning
your
presentation,
and
we
ask
that
any
member
of
the
team
of
your
team,
who
will
be
speaking,
please
give
their
name
and
address
for
our
public
record.
A
A
Our
first
secret
determination
is
for
the
applicant
stonebridge
campus.
Living
project
address
is
221
washington
street.
This
is
a
site
plan,
modification
to
add
basement
social
assembly
space
to
multi-unit
dwelling
with
12
existing
units
and
45
total
bedrooms
in
the
c2
downtown
business
district.
All
right
is
there.
Anyone
on
for
stone,
bridge
campus
living.
H
Hi,
my
name
is
alyssa
post
and
do
you
want
my
address
that
I'm
at
or
221
washington.
H
A
I
Good
evening,
everyone
billy
peterson
and
I
share
the
same
office
with
alyssa,
and
I
promise
I
won't
make
any
football
jokes
today.
A
All
right
that
sounds
great.
What
what
are
you
guys
thinking
about
doing.
H
Okay,
so
obviously
220
on
washington
street
binghamton
new
york
is
the
address
that
we're
discussing
we're
looking
to
just
get
an
occupancy
level
for
the
area
to
be
an
area
of
assembly.
A
F
H
H
A
I
To
provide
a
little
bit
more
context,
the
way
we
have
it
now
is
we
kind
of
specialize
in
student
rentals
and
as
it
is
now,
we
don't
share
some
of
the
basic
similarities
that
a
dorm
may
have
like
a
common
space,
and
so
our
thought
really
here
is,
if
you're
wanting
to
have
a
study
group
or
go
yoga
or
gym
whatever
the
case
may
be.
You
may
not
want
to
go
up
to
someone's
apartment
where
you
never
know
who
all
is
going
to
be
there.
I
I
We
want
to
make
it
where
our
kids
are
using
at
home
versus
out
in
public
doing
you
know
trying
to
find
a
place
where
they
can
socialize
and
study,
and
that's
really
our
goal
here
and
part
of
why
we
wanted
to
come
before
the
board
is
just
to
make
sure
we're
doing
it.
The
right
way
making
sure
that,
whatever
number
we
specify
to
use
the
space
is
what
we're
following
and
enforcing,
and
really
just
making
sure
that
we're
crossing
our
eyes
and
t's
while
giving
our
residents
every
space
opportunity
they
can
have.
A
Okay,
do
you
mind
if
I
ask,
are
you
here
proactively?
Are
you
here
because
you've
been
flagged
for
something.
I
So
it
a
little
bit
of
both.
We
actually
had
a
sprinkler
system
that
when
we
were
addressing,
they
went
on
and
said.
F
I
We
notice
that
this
space
on
paper
is
washer
and
dryers.
If
you're
wanting
to
use
it
as
a
common
space,
you
really
need
to
go
and
get
it
permitted
the
correct
way,
and
so
that
was
news
to
us
and
we're
not
the
landlord
that
tries
to
fly
by
night.
So
really
once
we
became
alerted
of
that.
That's
when
we're
like
okay,
let's
do
it
the
right
way,
and
admittedly
this
is
new
to
us.
This
isn't
a
channel
that
we've
really
been
down
before
we
were
under
the
guise
that
it
was
permitted
for
a
recreational
space.
I
A
A
And
based
on
code,
what
is
your
occupancy
limit
in
the
basement
or
in
the
gathering
area?
Labeled,
open
area.
H
I
believe
right
now
for
the
laundry
room
per
the
zoning
board.
It's
five
to
ten
and
then
the
area
of
assembly.
We
were
just
told
that
we'd
work
with
a
fire
marshal
they
would
come
in
they've
already
come
in
once
to
confirm
that
we
have
everything
set
up
the
correct
way
and
then,
as
soon
as
we
got
the
approval,
they
would
just
set
up
an
occupancy
level
and
post
it
on
the
wall.
A
A
All
right
anybody
else
have
any
questions
about.
What's
going
on.
A
D
So
there's
initially
in
the
staff
comments,
there
was
a
comment
about
how
the
office
of
building
construction
and
the
police,
the
binghamton
police
department,
expressed
concern
over
the
use
of
this
basement
space
for
an
assembly
space
and
then,
most
more
recently,
the
binghamton
police
department.
Chief
stakovsky,
has
submitted
a
letter
detailing
some
of
his
concerns
and
asking
that
this
not
be
approved.
I
Yeah
absolutely
so
we
became
aware
of
the
letter
earlier
today
and
I
do
want
to
start
off
by
saying
that
we
completely
understand
why
a
police
department
would
have
those
concerns.
I
There
have
been
no
issues
that
one
that
we're
aware
of
whether
it
be
on
paper
or
verbal,
since
I,
I
think
alyssa
our
property
walk
notes
are
june
of
last
year,
but
with
that
said,
we
we
support
the
police
department
and
we
absolutely
would
be
welcome
to
walk
it
with
them,
we're
more
than
on
board
with
giving
them
access
a
key
to
actually,
you
know,
go
down
there.
We
want
to
do
it
the
right
way
and
we
have
no
reason
to
to
not
want
a
police
presence
there.
I
I
remember
reading
on
there
that
there
was
concern
about
drinking
and
so
forth
and
that's
a
valid
concern
like
I
said
we
specialize
in
student
housing,
so
we
try
to
not
only
maintain
local
ordinance
but
also
a
presence
with
the
school,
and
could
I
promise
you
that
wouldn't
happen?
No.
I
H
I
think
too,
just
to
add
you
know.
Obviously
our
leases
are
multiple,
multiple
pages,
long,
that
we
can
add
rules
and
regulations
to
surround
this
to
work
with
the
police.
I
know
they
mentioned
in
there
certain
things
that
they
were,
you
know
afraid
of
coming
up.
I
do
want
to
note
that
our
tenants
from
this
june
of
2022
are
all
new
residents
in
that
building
than
they
were
prior,
so
the
rules
and
regulations
going
forth.
H
The
current
tenants
haven't
even
ever
had
access
to
this
basement,
so
we
can
definitely
work
with
the
police
department
to
find
out.
You
know
what
those
rules
and
regulations
could
be
so
that
we
could
meet
in
the
middle
to
make
this
a
safe
space
for
the
community
and
our
residents.
B
I
So
it
is
common
area
to
the
tenants
as
a
whole.
What
we
were
always
under
the
guise
was
use
it
as
a
gym
amenity,
laundry
space,
and
so
when
we
have
leased
the
building
again,
not
knowing
that
there
was
any
sort
of
guys
there
we've
told
them.
This
would
be
a
space
that
they
would
have
access
to,
provided
they
followed
the
same
rules
and
regulations
outlined
in
the
lease,
as
we
expect,
with
their
apartment
as
a
whole.
H
Yeah
so
100
so
prior
to
when
we
were
doing
the
renovations
when
we
became.
I
know
knowledge
of
this.
A
new
structure
there
that
came
in
that
code
enforcement
came
in
has
all
been
taken
away.
Everything's
been
taken
out,
it's
a
big
open
wide
space.
Now
we
have
made
a
space
ready
for
the
gym,
we're
ready
to
make
it
at
the
gym
as
soon
as
it's
approved,
we're
ready
to
put
the
pool
tables
in
we're
ready
to
make
it
amenity
space
and
not
a
big
open
area
where
they
can
do
with
what
they
please.
H
D
Would
it
be
appropriate
to
ask
the
applicants
to
submit
some
sort
of
a
floor
plan
mock-up
of
here's,
how
we
see
the
layout
of
putting
in
potential
pool
tables
and
couches
and
and
exercise
bikes,
and
things
like
that
to
is
that
an
appropriate
request
before
they
come
before
a
public
hearing.
L
Yeah,
so
they
they
did
submit
the
floor
plan
and
they
do
show
the
workout
area
on
there
in
the
laundry
room
and
and
some
restrooms,
the
bulk
of
it,
though,
is
shown
as
open
areas.
So,
if
the
board
yeah,
you
can
absolutely
ask
to
show
the
space
furnished
or
show
more
partitions
or
whatever
you
want
to
see.
There.
D
Okay,
but
the
other
thing
I
would
just
recommend
to
the
applicants
is
you
can
do
also
to
help
make
us
happy,
but
I
think
the
obvious
thing
is
you
need
to
make
sure
the
police
department's
happy,
because
I
think
many
of
us
unless
the
depletement
primary,
unless
chief
zakovsky,
gives
us
an
updated
letter
saying
he's
okay,
this
might
remain
problematic
next
month.
B
I
think
what
mr
judge
is
trying
to
say
is
that
the
aesthetics
of
the
building
need
to
address
the
concerns
that
police
raised
about
the
building,
and
I
will
tell
you
from
council's
perspective
and
this
planning
bodies
commission.
I
believe
they
all
have
in
mind
a
couple
projects
that
have
been
worked
through
with
amenities
space
like
this,
and
even
though
the
tenants
or
the
landlord
man
had
the
best
intentions
about
how
that
space
was
going
to
be
used.
B
B
It
was
a
pretty
wild
event
and
it
was
clearly
not
something
that
I
think
even
that
landlord
sanctioned
and
he
was
quite
appalled
by
it.
And
so
when
you
see
this
big
wide
open
floor
plan,
it
causes
some
concern
for
public
safety
officials
and
for
the
planning
commission
that
it's
going
to
create
problems
in
that
neighborhood,
with
the
forum
directly
across
the
street
church
down
the
street
a
couple
of
businesses
right
next
to
you
that
that
all
creates
issues,
and
so
the
best
the
question
is
before
next
month.
B
Is
there
something
you
can
do
or
put
in
place
that
would
alleviate
those
concerns
about
public
safety
issues,
and
I
will
tell
you
that,
like
the
other
guy
took
some
pretty
good
measures,
I
mean
he
had
passed.
Security
passes
on
the
doors
only
tenants
to
get
in
they
bypassed
all
that.
They
I
mean
they
broke
in
other
ways.
It
was.
H
B
I
will
tell
you
that
from
just
my
opinion
of
what
I
looked
at
and
they
probably
were
not
cooperative,
in
fact,
they
ended
up
breaking
the
lease
because
they
were
not
able
to
get
that
space
and
they
ended
up
putting
all
kinds
of
horrible
social
media
health
care
about
this
particular
landlord
because
they
don't
get
their
space.
A
All
right
any
other
questions
before
we
make
a
motion
on
the
project
to
move
it.
M
Yeah
nick
this
is
paul.
Yes,
there
was
another
item
on
chief
sakusky's
letter
stating
that
the
tenants
majority
of
which
are
members
of
a
fraternity
is
this:
a
fraternity
house.
H
Sorry
I
thought
I
was
unmuted
they're
they're,
not
a
recognized
for
at
binghamton
university.
Now.
B
What
I'm
saying
is
if
you
walk
the
other
place,
I
was
just
talking
to
you
about
when
you
walked
into
that
there
were
the
greek
letters
all
over
those
walls.
I
mean
they
had
totally
renovated
that
space
made
it
like
sort
of
like
subway
graffiti,
all
over
the
walls,
letting
you
know
who
owned
that
space.
B
H
I'm
sorry
there's
no
greek
letters
in
the
basement.
There's
no
greek
letters
in
our
lobby
hallway
anything
like
that.
I
do
not
know
exactly
what
they
have
in
their
bedrooms,
but
they
are
not
posted
outside.
They
are
not
posting
our
lobby
hallways
anything
right.
H
It's
rented
out
as
a
building.
Okay,.
B
H
A
Brian
is
that
how
this
building
is
recognized.
B
We
don't
have
a
control
over
how
they
lose
the
building.
Okay,
we
have
it
there's
different
units
if
they
choose
to
do
one
lease
that
covers
all
the
apartments
in
it.
That
is
that's
fine.
The
applicants
should
know,
though,
some
of
the
worst
fraternity
houses
in
the
city
of
binghamton
are
ones
that
are
unrecognized
by
the
fraternity.
Those
are
the
ones
that
seem
to
cause
growth
damage
both
to
the
owner's
property
and
in
the
neighborhood
around
them.
C
A
H
We
have
only
owned
this
since
august
of
2021
in
the
possession
of
when
I
was
a
general
manager
here.
I
was
only
known
about
in
february
and
the
end
of
january,
but
other
than
that
I
have
had
no
record
of
them
after
february
or
before
january.
End
of
january.
H
H
H
Correct
so
when
it
was
shut
down,
it's
been
completely
locked
since
any
type
of
communication
with
the
city.
They
have
had
zero
access
to
that
basement.
So
there's
been
nothing
down
there.
The
police
have
not
been
there
at
all
and
I've
been
in
direct
communication
with
code
enforcement
and
tido
at
the
planning
department.
But
that's
that
building
like
the
basement
is
locked
completely.
A
Okay,
all
right,
anybody
have
any
other
questions
before
we
can
move
things
forward
here.
J
Yeah,
I
had
a
quick
question:
is
there
a
difference
between
because
I
I'm
now
I'm
looking
at
his
letter?
It
says
something
about
the
low-grade
basement
of
any
building
used
for
gatherings
below
grade.
J
B
B
It's
not
something
you're
going
to
find
in
our
zoning
or
planning
regulations,
but
what
it
does
play
it's
on
the
aesthetics
and
how
the
property
operates,
and
it
goes
to
how
the
effect
it
can
have
in
the
community.
The
experience
in
our
community
has
been
that
these
spaces
when
they
are
below
ground,
they
are
much
harder
to
police
because
there's
very
frequently
not
windows,
it's
very
frequently
not
good
access
to
them
and
it
creates
a
lot
of
issues
for
the
police
trying
to
determine
when
there's
underage
drinking.
B
When
there's
large
parties,
I
mean
the
the
one
that
I
was
talking
about
before
prior.
Fortunately,
there
was
a
bar
above
it.
They
heard
the
noise
they
let
somebody
know
and
first
of
all,
the
frag
guys
right
at
the
door,
wouldn't
let
people
in
when
they
finally
did
let
people
out
you
could
set
the
body
camera
to
see
this
flow
of
people
human
beings
coming
out.
You
know
it's
like
you,
just
counted
them
like
sheep
and
there
were
a
couple
hundred
people
stuck
in
this
basement.
It's
very
dangerous.
B
A
All
right
any
anyone
else.
J
A
A
All
right
so
goodbye,
kellyanne,
paul
all
right,
all
in
favor.
A
Mario
josh
paul,
yes,
sir
sorry
is
joe's
not
here.
Chris.
D
A
D
A
Yes,
yes,
and
I'm
also
a
yes
all
right.
That's
six
in
favor,
zero,
post
and
I'll
make
a
motion
that
the
for
a
public
hearing
to
set
a
public
hearing
date
and
time
for
this
project
at
our
october
meeting.
For
let's
say,
5
25.
A
Seconded
all
right
seconded
by
paul
all
in
favor,
mario,
yes,
paul,
yes,
chris,
yes,
kelly!
Yes,
yes
and
I'm
also
a
yes,
so
that's
six
in
favor,
zero
of
those
all
right,
so
you've
got
a
public
hearing
date
set
for
the
next
meeting.
Hopefully
you
can
get
a
revised
plan
submitted
and
have
a
meeting
with
the
police
to
get
there
if
we're
looking
for
their
blessing
or
just
so
that
they
understand
what
you're
trying
to
do
and
then
hopefully,
we'll
hear
from
them
directly
on
what
their
opinion
of
the
project
will
be.
B
I
can
also
make
a
comment
just
on
what
you're,
probably
looking
for
one
of
the
things
that
we
often
get
from
applicants
is
statements
about.
You
know
I
have
this
person
in
place,
who's,
gonna
supervise
and
make
sure
that
this
doesn't
happen.
The
planning
commission's
perspective,
though,
is
much
longer
than
that.
It's
like
20
or
30.,
two
people
down
the
chain
of
connect
title
if
you
sell
the
building
the
next
or
third
person,
and
this
exists
20
years
from
now.
B
How
can
you
physically
design
this
space?
It
doesn't
get
misused.
Like
the
other
board
is
concerned,
that's
really
the
the
highest
best
way.
You
can
address
this
and
I'm
not
certain
how
you
do
that,
but
if
you
can
figure
out
that,
that's
the
type
of
thing
that
that
planning
commission
generally
finds
to
be
very
persuasive.
L
A
I
K
A
All
right,
second,
by
manny,
all
in
favor,
mario,
yes
paul,
yes,
sir
chris,
yes
kelly,
yes
and
man
yeah
all
right,
I'm
also
a
yes
and
it's
six
in
favor
zero,
folks,
all
right
all
right
back
to
secret
determinations.
So
our
next
applicant
is
the
family
enrichment
network.
The
project
address
is
25
double
day
street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
to
convert
an
existing
building
into
10
one-bedroom
apartments
in
the
r3
multi-unit
dwelling
district.
C
N
Yeah
so
I'll
go
first
ken
we're.
E
N
We're
looking
to
convert
the
former
convent
on
25
double
day
street
into
10
one-bedroom
apartments
that
would
be
a
permanent
supportive
housing
program
for
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
and
the
priority
population
would
be
young
adults
ages,
18
to
25..
N
We
would
provide
obviously
the
single
bedroom
apartments,
coupled
with
case
management
services,
to
help
achieve
housing,
stability
and
self-sufficiency.
O
I'll
I'll
add
on
to
that
as
well
currently
on
the
site
plan,
as
you
see,
we
are
proposing
seven
standard
parking
spaces
and
one
accessible
space.
These
will
be
purchased.
O
O
As
april
noted,
we're
looking
through
funding
through
homeless
housing,
and
we
have
been
through
the
initial
chris
review
with
the
state
historic
and
received
approval
for
the
project
as
well,
we're
not
adding
anything
to
the
size
of
the
building,
except
for
a
small,
accessible
ramp
on
the
side
of
the
property
towards
the
parking
lot
which
one
would
enter
through
there.
We
are
changing
internally
to
the
project,
the
stairs
to
make
them
accessible
stairs
in
the
middle
of
the
building.
O
As
this,
the
project
would
have
sprinklers
and
everything
that's
required
per
the
occupancy
on
the
exterior
of
the
building.
We
are
changing
some
exterior
window
locations
to
accommodate
the
revised
floor
plan,
which
are
noted
on
the
elevation
sheet
as
well.
A
O
Correct
we,
we
will
enter
off
of
double
day,
and
this
was
to
accommodate
and
maintain
the
existing
parking
striping
in
there
and
not
absorb
too
much
of
the
saint
paul's
and
still
let
them
you
know,
remain
as
many
parking
spaces
as
we
could
but
meet
some
of
the
needs
of
our
facility.
A
O
B
N
Yes,
this
is
april
we're
purchasing
the
property
with
those
spots
for
ninety
five
thousand
dollars.
It's
it's
pending
approval
with
the
archdiocese
right
now.
B
L
So
here
they
they
are
purchasing
the
parking
spaces,
but
they
would
need
an
easement
to
make
this
a
functional
parking
lot.
So
the
planning
commission
could,
if
they
were
going
to
approve
it,
make
any
approval,
subject
to
a
grant
the
granting
of
an
easement
in
perpetuity
to
allow
vehicles
to
exit
through
the
saint
paul's
parking
lot.
L
A
B
B
So,
typically,
what
if
there
was
a
if
there
was
an
approval
requirement
would
be
that
the
two
lots
be
merged
into
one
lot
and,
if
potentially
in
the
sale,
if
you
get
you
go
forward
with
the
sale,
you
probably
want
to
ask
them,
including
the
deed.
The
easement
that
goes
with
this
property
provides
for
the
parking
in
the
deed
or
sale
a
right
of
ingress
and
aggression
purposes
of
parking,
so
that
this
so
that
the
supreme
court,
when
it
reviews
this,
can
also
include
that
in
its
approval.
B
So
don't
go
back
again,
but
if
a
non-for
profit
alienates
profit
like
the
assets
like
this,
our
certificate
portion
of
their
assets,
it
requires
supreme
court
approval
from
new
york
state.
So
I
would
make
sure
that
easement
was
part
of
that
transaction
when
they
go
to
the
supreme
court,
so
that
it's
there's
no
question
in
the
future
that
that
they
would
have
to
act,
permission
to
settle
and.
E
A
D
Yes,
this
is
chris
yeah
two
questions
that
were
brought
up
on
the
staff
report,
for
these
are
for
the
applicant.
One
question
is:
will
the
athlete
keep
the
red
staircase
on
the
eastern
side
of
the
building?
I
think
it's
like
a
looks
like
a
fire
escape
based
on
the
one
photo
I
saw
here.
O
D
And
then
the
second
thing
I
saw
was
on
the
staff
report
was
going
back
to
the
parking.
Will
there
be
any
barriers
separating
the
parking
area
that
you
guys
are
buying
from
saint
paul's
from
the
rest
of
the
st
paul's
parking
lot?.
C
O
We
had
not
planned
for
that
part
of
the
reason
would
be
snow
removal.
I
would
think
if
you
put
a
barrier
there,
then
you're
going
to
pile
it
up
and
really
interfere
with
their
driving
lanes.
O
D
Let
me
ask
this
towards
the
playing
department.
Tito.
Do
you
guys
care
if
there's
some
sort
of
barrier
surprise
so
separating
these
two
sections
of
the
parking
lot.
L
D
L
Yeah,
I
think
the
fact
that
there's
an
easement
involved
and
that
they're
sort
of
reusing
the
existing
parking
space
makes
it
more
of
a
shared
parking
situation.
Where
you
know
a
concrete
physical
separation
may
not
be
all
that
appropriate.
A
A
All
right
taken
by
kelly
all
in
favor,
mario,
yes
paul,
yes,
chris,
yes,
kelly,.
C
A
A
We
just
need
a
second
on
that.
I
need
to
vote.
A
A
So
now
we're
on
to
public
hearings
and
final
deliberations
in
this
portion
of
our
meeting,
we'll
be
holding
open
public
hearings
to
obtain
public
opinion
in
regard
to
specific
projects
that
are
up
for
review,
applicants
will
be
asked
to
come
to
the
microphone
and
make
a
brief
presentation
describing
their
project
for
most
projects.
This
is
the
second
time
we
were
reviewing
your
information,
so
it
would
be
very
helpful
if
you
could.
A
Please
give
us
a
brief
overview
of
your
project,
to
remind
us
what
you're
planning
and
then
clearly
identify
any
changes
that
have
been
made
since
the
last
time.
We
saw
you
when
the
applicant
is
done
presenting
and
any
clarifications
have
been
reviewed.
We
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
allow
members
of
the
community
to
speak
about
the
applicant's
proposal
after
the
commission
is
heard
from
all
community
members
interested
in
speaking
tonight.
The
public
hearing
will
be
closed
and
the
commission
will
deliberate
to
our
applicants
when
your
project
name
is
called.
A
Please
come
to
the
microphone
and
start
off
by
giving
the
name
and
address
of
any
member
of
the
applicant's
team.
That's
planning
to
speak
and
anyone
from
the
community
that
will
be
speaking
in
regard
to
a
project
tonight.
Please
also
start
off
by
stating
your
name
and
address
for
our
records,
so
tonight.
A
And
let's
see
to
speak
during
the
public
hearing,
commenters
may
call
the
planning
department
at.
A
All
right
so
tonight,
our
first
public
hearing
is
for
the
applicant
marchuska
brothers,
construction
llc.
The
project
address
is
49
court
street
and
this
is
a
psych
land
review
to
add
nine
additional
parking
spaces
to
an
existing
231
space.
Surface
parking
lot
in
the
c2
downtown
business
district,
all
right.
Anybody
on
for
marc
truster
brothers,
oh.
Q
K
E
A
Q
Well,
since
the
last
time
we
we
met,
we
went
to
the
zba
to
eliminate
that
five-foot
landscape
barrier
between
us
and
the
neighboring
property,
and
that
was
completed,
went
through
with
a
I
believe.
A
favorable
result
we're
still
maintaining
that
we
like
to
add
the
nine
parking
spaces
and
maintain
the
five
foot
existing
sidewalk.
Q
K
C
L
Nick
up
from
from
our
end,
the
only
change
is
that
we
did
get
county
comments
and
it's
my
mistake.
They're
not.
I
did
not
upload
them
to
base
camp
previously,
but
they
were
made
available
to
the
zba
before
the
zba
meeting
and
they're
on
base
camp
now
and
shaolin
can
put
them
up.
If
you
all
would
like
to
see
them,
but
the
county
recommended
denial
of
this
proposal,
and
so
the
planning
commission
would
need
a
super
majority
to
override
that.
A
Okay,
can
you
remind
me
with
six
members
here
tonight
how
what's
that
a
super
majority
of.
L
So
that's
based
on
the
board
size,
and
so
you
would
need
five
members
to
vote
in
favor
of
the
cycling.
A
I
got
you
okay
before
we
go
into
the
public
hearing
justin,
do
you
want
to
talk
about
the
the
staff,
the
planning
staff,
I
think,
has
kind
of
suggested,
a
compromise
solution
with
putting
the
trees
back
in
around
the
perimeter?
Q
So
you
know,
unfortunately,
people
are
working
from
home
and
we're
trying
to
do
the
best
we
can
with
the
current
with
the
current
situation
in
the
world
today,
we
also
are
also
trying
to
accommodate
people
who
come
into
the
parking
lot.
You
know
because
we
get
a
certain
level
people
during
the
day
and
after
hours
we
use
the
parking
lot
for
different
events,
eat
dinner
and
then
generally
walk.
You
know,
shopping
and
whatnot
downtown.
A
Okay,
when
you
say
planting
the
trees
as
you
can
afford
it,
is
there
a
timeline
on
that.
Q
We,
when
we
our
last
meeting,
they
didn't
put
a
timeline
on
it,
but
they
did.
You
know
we
just
said
we
would
do
it.
We
would
do
it
over
time
and
we,
you
know,
if
there's
if
it's
any
indication
of
the
type
of
landlord
we
are
with
the
building,
I
mean
we,
we
we
keep
the
building
extremely
nice
and
we
continue
to
improve
it.
Q
So
we
do
we
do
we
do
what
we
say
we're
going
to
do
so,
I
would
say
over
the
next
several
years,
maybe
over
the
next
three
years,
but
it's
just
something
that
we're
just
at
this
point
trying
to
deal
with
the
immediate
issue
of
parking
continuing
to
be
a
strained
issue
in
and
around
our
building,
especially
during
the
day.
Q
A
D
Chris,
this
question
actually
maybe
for
tito
tito,
I'm
not.
I
think
I
must
have
missed
it.
What
is
the
county's
objection?
Why
are
they
recommending
denial.
D
Oh
hold
on
well
yeah,
but
I
just
gotta
blow
up
my
screen,
so
I
can
make
them
so
I
can
read
them.
It's
like
a
two-point
font
on
my
screen,
yeah.
So
in.
L
A
nutshell:
they
agree
with
most
of
our
comments
that
that
the
removal
of
of
all
trees
and
and
a
lot
in
the
bulk
of
the
vegetation
on
that
site
over
time
is
inappropriate,
especially
sort
of
in
the
heart
of
downtown
and
that
expanding
surface
lots
with
no
landscape
offer
and
and
no
trees
is
contrary
to
to
the
city
comprehensive
plan
to
the
county.
Comprehensive
plan
to
just
best
practices
in
general.
L
A
L
Usually
they
have
a
year
to
complete
a
project
before
they
use
it.
This
would
be
a
little
different
because
they
would
I'm
assuming
try
to
use
the
surface
parking
lot
before
they
plan
anything.
L
B
Typically,
what's
approved
in
a
site
plan
has
to
be
completed
within
12
months.
However,
there
are
times
when
you
extend
that
time
and
you
can
do
have
the
right
to
do
conditions
for
the
for
the
whole
parcel
as
part
of
this
approval-
and
you
can
do
a
staggered
timeline
saying
you
know,
and
you
can
make
it
longer
than
a
year
if
you
wanted
to
as
long
as
there
was
compliance
at
each
step
at
each
benchmark,
that
was
set.
K
A
All
right:
well,
let's
do
this,
let's
open
the
public
hearing,
let
people
talk
about
the
project
and
then
we'll
come
back
and
revisit
this
all
right,
so
this
is
or
we're
going
to
open
up
the
public
hearing
for
the
applicant
marchuska
brothers.
Construction
llc
project
address
is
49
court
street.
This
is
a
site
planned
review
to
add
nine
additional
parking
spaces
to
an
existing
231
space
surface
parking
lot
in
the
c2
downtown
business
district.
A
And
if
you're
on
the
zoom
call-
and
you
want
to
comment,
you
just
raise
your
hand
and
we'll
try
and
take
everybody
in
order
that
they
raise
their
hand.
E
P
For
a
minute,
I
wasn't
sure
if
it
was
justin
john
on
the
other
line,
I
love
the
glasses
justin
good
evening
planning
board
members
I'll
I'll,
try
to
keep
it
short
and
sweet.
First
of
all,
I'll
tell
you
that
marchuska
brothers
is
a
direct
competitor
of
mine
in
the
nature
of
real
estate.
P
P
This
is
a
little
bit
of
a
sensitive
subject
for
me
because
I
am
involved.
You
know
my
office
is
downtown.
My
business
and
my
wife's
business
are
downtown
one
restaurant,
one
retail,
and
I
also
have
residents
that
live
downtown
and
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
constantly
is
parking
and
it's
it's.
It's
lost
me
the
opportunity
to
have
tenants
here
in
our
market.
P
It's
it's
allowed
me
to
also
lose
tenants
for
living
downtown,
and
I've
also
had
to
hear
from
our
customers
repeatedly
that
we
don't
come
to
your
place
because
there's
a
deficiency
of
parking
in
downtown
and
a
lot
of
things
we
don't
have
control
of
and
and
look
over
time
and
I'm
not
taking
pot
shots.
The
city
hasn't
really
maintained
their
parking
garages
they've
become
they've
to
the
point
where
they've
had
to
be
torn
down.
P
There's
another
pending
project,
there's
been
a
lot
of
of
positive
movement
in
the
downtown
at
a
time
where
we've
really
needed
the
most
parking.
Ever
it's
a
totally
different
creature
now
than
it
was
historically
and
there's
a
tremendous
deficiency.
So
here
you
have
a
landlord
or
developer
that
wants
to
put
parking,
and
I
think
we
all
have
wish
lists,
and
I
I
understand
it
would
be
nice
to
have
trees
and
all
that
things.
But
you
also
have
to
look
at
the
challenges
that
people
have
in
their
businesses.
P
You
know
we've
gone
through
a
horrible
time.
You
know
the
past
24
months.
I
don't
think
you
should
recreate
the
world,
but
you
have
to
be
a
little
bit
sensitive
to
that
things
are
a
lot
more
challenging
now
and
by
not
embracing
this
and
allowing
them
to
move
forward
with
this
pro.
With
this
additional
parking.
P
It's
it's
not
only
hurting
them,
but
it's
hurting
other
things.
It's
hurting
people
that
would
go
to
the
forum
or
people
that
would
shop
retail
or
people
that
will
go
to
restaurants,
so
I'm
hoping
that
you
guys
will
look
really
long
and
hard
over
this.
I
think
there's
bigger
things
in
the
city
that
we
have
to
work
worry
about
that
need
our
attention.
P
I
commend
all
of
you
for
giving
your
time
to
this.
You
know
that
you
know
this
committee
and
board,
but
I
think
it's
really
important
to
embrace
anybody
who
wants
to
make
the
financial
investment
into
our
into
our
downtown
to
help
it
better
and
look
in
time.
You
know,
I
don't
think
you
should
draw
a
line
in
the
sand.
P
So
now
his
k,
his
cash
flows
negative,
but
so,
rather
than
than
have
all
these
conditions,
I
think
you
have
to
kind
of
show
a
little
bit
of
good
faith
and
allow
him
to
move
forward
this
in
hopes
that
that
that
there'll
be
some
plant
things.
But
I
want
to
just
emphasize
again
my
positive
support
for
this.
It's
it's
a
win-win
for
everybody,
the
city,
the
county
office,
space
residential.
A
Yes,
but
I
can
do
it
one
more
time.
The
phone
number
for
anybody
who
would
like
to
call
in
is.
L
We
have
no
phone
calls
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
if
you're
an
attendee
on
this
call
and
you're
here
to
speak
about
this
project,
please
use
the
raise
hand
function
and
we
can
give
you
permission
to
talk.
L
Okay,
so
we
have
olivia
olivia,
you
can
speak
now.
Do
you
state
your
name
for
the
record.
S
Hi,
my
name
is
olivia
larocchia,
I'm
a
student
at
binghamton
university,
I'm
a
graduate
student,
I'm
studying
sustainability,
and
so
we
like
to
think
about
all
of
the
different
aspects
of
city
planning.
You
know
economic,
environmental
and
social,
and
this
seems
like
a
really
interesting
issue
that
includes
all
of
these
things.
I
think
we've
had
some
insight
from
the
economic
perspective
as
to
why
it
might
be
important
to
have
these
new
parking
spaces,
and
I
see
the
value
in
that,
but
just
to
provide
a
counter.
S
I
think
you
know
the
environmental
benefits
of
having
trees
downtown.
It's
good,
for
you
know
the
psyche
of
our
residents,
who
walk
around
every
day
to
see
you
know
some
greenery,
and
instead
of
seeing
that
get
torn
down.
Seeing
that
maintained,
I
would
like
to
see
you
know
a
promise
from
the
people
who
would
like
to
establish
these
parking
spaces
to
increase
vegetation.
S
If
that's
you
know
where
this
is
leading
that
the
parking
spaces
will
be
there
yeah,
I
think
part.
The
parking
spaces
do
have
a
lot
of
benefits,
but
I
don't
think
we
should
forget
about
the
environmental
and
health
benefits
of
you
know.
Having
vegetation
downtown
in
a
highly
commercialized
area,.
L
No
well
any
do
any
of
the
other
attendees
have
any
comments
on
this
project.
Are
you
any
of
you
here
to
comment
on
this
project?
If
so,
please
raise
your
hand.
A
D
Yeah
nick
I'm
just
I'm
looking
at
the
the
site
plan
that
was
submitted,
and
I
won't
lie
to
you,
I'm
I
there's
from
what
I'm
seeing
here,
there's
not
going
to
be
a
large
amount
of
real
estate.
That's
going
to
be
paved
to
create
these
extra
nine
parking
spots.
I
mean
I,
with
all
due
respect
to
everybody
out
there.
This
is
hardly
gonna,
get
joni
mitchell
to
write
another
song
about.
D
So
I,
with
all
the
respect
to
the
county
and
their
objections,
I
have
no
problem
approving
the
site
plan
as
is,
and
as
submitted
and
not
requiring
the
applicant
to
commit
to
planning
x
number
of
pieces
of
vegetation
by
a
certain
date
to
have
them
extend
the
parking
spots
by
a
few
feet.
Was
it
nine
by
nine
by
18
to
add
those
extra
nine
spots?
I
mean
it's.
A
Gotcha
all
right
anybody
else
planning.
Commission
members
want
to
weigh
in
on,
let's
just
clarify
so
the
staff
comments
or
the
updated
staff
report.
A
Which
is
a
considerable
reduction
from
what
a
parking
lot
of
this
size
would
require
if,
if
it
came
in
new
which
it's
not
but
but
it
did
have
trees
in
there
previously,
that
were
removed,
which
is
questionable
about
whether
or
not
they're
required,
but
so.
A
So
the
last
comment
in
here:
it's
the
staffs
position
that
restoring
the
recommended
15
trees,
so
12
to
15
trees
around
the
perimeter
is
a
reasonable
request.
So
it
would
have
a
significant
impact
on
the
surrounding
area.
The
city
is
making
a
large
investment
in
streetscape
improvements
through
the
deco
district
project
right
nearby.
Anybody
want
to.
K
Nick
manny
here
I'm
always
a
fan
of
compromise,
but
I
do
appreciate
you
know
the
lack
of
immediacy
for
the
these
trees
and
I
think
you
know
putting
12
trees
over
three
years.
If
the
applicant
would
be
willing
might
be
a
reasonable
compromise,
but
we'd
have
to
see
if
the
applicant
would
be
okay
with
that.
Q
I
guess
what
I
would
say
is
we
were
hoping
to
have.
You
know,
do
this
in
faith
and
not
have
it
part
of
the
as
a
requirement,
because
don't
like
mark
put
up
with
where
things
are
going,
I
mean
we
do
the
best
we
can
with
the
building.
I
mean
like,
for
example,
this
this
weekend,
luma
went
on.
I
was
eating
dinner,
9
30
at
my
home
in
skinny
atlas,
okay
and
the
commitment
I
have
to
the
the
city
of
binghamton
finished
dinner.
Q
Q
We
have
a
gate
there
and
you
can,
you
know,
check
out
with
a
credit
card
because
for
such
a
shortage,
I
guess-
and
I
don't
know-
I
don't
know
the
factual
numbers,
but
my
understanding
because
luma
they
were
using
like
one
the
parking
garages
or
something-
and
I
don't
know
exactly
but
understanding
was
there
was
very
limited
parking
that
was
available
and
I
stayed
there
until
about
one
o'clock
in
the
morning
on
saturday
night.
My
brother
was
there
too.
None
of
our
employees,
because
you
know
we
weren't
expecting
to
be
there.
Q
I
mean
when
we
when
there's
forum
events
and
whatever
we're
there
so
but
people,
even
though
they
had
to
wait
pretty
considerable
amount
of
time
to
look
access.
The
lot
we're
just
thankful
to
have
that
parking
around.
So
just
to
echo
the
sediments
I
mean
we,
we
really
are
doing
a
service,
and
I
mean
the
commitment
I
have
people
who
are
there
will
will
test.
I
I
was
there.
You
know,
like
I
said,
very
nice,
I
was
in
dinner.
A
Q
A
I
think
our
problem
probably
is
rooted
in
something
brian
alluded
to
in
the
in
the
earlier
project.
So
I
I'm
pretty
sure
everybody
on
the
planet.
Commission
probably
fully
agrees
the
marchuska
brothers,
no
problem.
We
could
do
a
good
faith
agreement
with
you
just
you
know
everybody
sees
you
around.
They
hound
you
every
once
in
a
while
and
be
like
hey
what
about
those
trees,
but
the
problem
is
if,
for
whatever
reason
you
sold
the
the
building,
you
sold
the
area.
A
A
B
A
A
A
site
plan
modification
that
didn't
show
any
of
the
trees
at
all,
and
then
you
could.
You
could
ask
for
yeah
no
trees
at
that
point
and
it
would
be
the
same
process.
You
have
to
hop
on
for
a
couple
of
meetings
and
ask
for
no
trees,
but
I
think
there's
enough
people
involved
in
the
request
to
have
the
trees
put
back
in.
But
it's
sounding
to
me,
like
you,
probably
would
not
get
approval
tonight.
If
you
want
to
not
have
the
trees
as
a
condition
of
approval.
Q
And
this
is
with
all
due
respect,
nick
everyone,
since
we
cut
the
trees
down-
and
I
know
the
board
like
I
respect-
you
know
what
the
board
does,
but
you
know
we
we
have
people
who
have
come
up
to
us
up
to
this
meeting.
No
one
has
been
honest
with
you.
I
said
anything
about
the
trees
or
look.
If
trees
made
a
difference
there,
I
would
have
planted
trees
help
me
around
the
building.
I
would
have
planned
on
a
long
time
ago
beyond
that.
Q
Q
I
didn't
look
at
the
final
one,
but
I
think
that's
going
to
add
a
decent
amount
of
education
where
my
trees,
although
I
I
do
respect
that
I
think
you're
going
to
see
you
know
you're
going
to
see
a
bit
of
vegetation
going
in
with
that
around
you
know.
The
state
state
street
henry
street
at
least
when
I
was
involved
with
it
in
the
past,
with
with
him
landscaping,
went
out
from
ithaca.
I
haven't
seen
the
final
plan,
but
that
was
my
understanding,
so
I
I
understand
and
respect
completely
and
what
the
board
does.
A
All
right:
well,
I
guess
I
gotta,
I
gotta,
leave
it
in
your
hands.
What
would
you
like
us
to
do?
We
can
move,
make
a
motion
for
approval,
as
is
with
no
trees,
or
we
could
make
a
motion
for
a
conditional
approval
with
the
12.
I
guess
we
have
to
put
a
number
on
it.
So,
let's.
Q
I'm
just
I'm
just
saying
I
I
like
I
say
I
think
you're
going
to
see
once
that
landscaping
goes
in
it's
not
going
to
really
make
a
difference.
What
we're
doing
I
mean,
and
one
thing
what
chris
mentioned
earlier,
is
where
we're
adding
it.
It's
we're
adding.
You
know
pretty
minimal
amount
of
parking
spots
and
we
aren't
you
know
removing
trees,
we're
actually
taking
out
hard.
You
know
impermeable,
you
know
sidewalk
and
even
and
then
adding
parking
spots.
So
it's
kind
of
a
one-for-one
thing.
T
Q
I
see
you
know
just
like
we
get
a
lot
of
positive
comments
that
you
know
from
our
tenants
of
how
how
it
currently
is,
and
that's
the
only
thing
I
was
bringing
up.
A
E
A
D
A
Q
B
A
Okay,
all
right
well
I'll
make
a
motion
for
hold
on
one.
Second,
I
just
have
to
look
and
make
sure.
A
All
right,
so
that's
seconded
by
men,
all
right
all
in
favor,
mario,
yes
paul!
A
Okay,
kelly,
yes
and
me:
yes,
all
right,
I'm
also
a
yes!
So
that's
six
in
favor,
zero
opposed.
B
A
All
right,
so
that's
on
to
our
next
public
hearing
and
final
deliberation.
So
our
next
applicant
is.
A
R
Yep,
so
a
brief
overview,
so
this
is
the
water
street
brewing
building
there
on
the
first
floor,
they're
staying,
of
course,
so
we're
proposing
18
apartments
on
floors,
two
three
and
four
total.
R
These
are
mostly
one
bedrooms,
two
bedrooms
and
a
couple:
three
bedrooms:
the
building's
about
twenty
four
thousand
square
feet:
there's
nine
parking
spaces
at
the
building.
Currently
those
will
remain,
as
is
there's
currently
a
dumpster
in
the
back
of
the
building
on
the
north
side.
That
remains
where
that
is
as
well.
R
There
are
two
means
of
egress
already,
which
is
great.
That's
mostly
it
we
are.
You
know
this
is
market
rate
housing,
we're
looking
for
young
professionals,
people
that
work
downtown.
R
D
Well,
the
county
office
building
they
shut
off
the
lights.
I
guess
previously
it
didn't
matter
because
there's
enough
sunlight,
but
it's
gloomy
enough
and
dark
enough
that
I'm
it's
it's
going
to
be
mood
lighting
now
for
the
rest
of
the
meeting.
I
guess.
A
All
right
well
see
no
questions
or
comments,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
all
right.
So
this
is
the
public
hearing
for
168
water
llc.
The
project
address
is
168
water
street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
for
the
conversion
of
floors,
two
through
five
of
an
existing
commercial
building
to
18
growing
units
with
26
total
bedrooms
in
the
c2
downtown
business
district.
L
No
calls
and
one
second,
while
we
check
attendees
no
hands
raised
all
right.
A
R
Yep,
so
they
were
formerly
professional
offices.
The
tenants
have
all
left,
you
know
prior
to
us
acquiring
the
building,
so
the
renovation
up
there
for
the
offices
was
probably
done
in
the
90s.
Maybe
there
used
to
be
legal
aid.
Services
was
in
there
some
offices
for
the
former
owner,
all
offices,
so
no
apartments.
A
A
A
All
right,
so
at
the
last
meeting
we
determined
that
this
was
a
type
2
action,
so
no
other
environmental
review
was
required.
So
I'll
make
a
motion
that
the
requirements
for
site
plan
review
have
been
met.
I
A
And
man,
I'm
also
a
yes,
so
that's
six
in
favor
zero
opposed.
A
M
Do
student
housing.
L
We're
on
to
that,
oh
we're
on
I'm
sorry
I
just
I
have
stepped
out
so
we're
on
this.
Fairview
recovery
services
withdrew
their
application.
We
just
had
to
have
them
on
the
agenda
to
sort
of
officially
close
things
out
so
for
the
student
housing
legislation.
Did
anybody
get
a
chance
to
look
at
it.
D
L
The
first
is
that
in
our
zoning
ordinance,
a
dwelling
unit
has
to
be
occupied
by
a
family
or
a
group
that
functions
like
a
family,
and
so
that's
that's
tough,
to
enforce
for
the
zoning
officer,
because
if
he
gets
a
complaint
and
it's
typically
about
a
group
of
students
living
in
a
unit
in
a
in
a
residential
area
that
is
predominantly
single
unit
dwellings,
he
has
to
go
in
and
sort
of
basically
assess
their
lifestyle
and
determine
if
they're,
a
family
or
not
and
it's
sort
of
subjective,
so
that
doesn't
really
work
and
the
zoning
officer
really
shouldn't
be
in
a
position
to
make
that
type
of
assessment.
L
So
what
this
legislation
does?
Is
it
states
explicitly-
and
this
would
be
in
the
zoning
code,
that
a
group
of
four
or
more
college
students
is
not
a
family
unless
certain
other
conditions
are
met.
So
this
makes
it
so
that
the
zoning
officer
is
making
an
objective
statement
about
the
occupants
of
the
unit
and
they're,
either
students
or
they're.
Not
so
that's
one
thing
that
the
legislation
does
is
make
that
enforcement
easier.
L
The
other
thing
is
that
there's
a
rezoning
portion
of
it,
so
the
if
you've
had
a
moment
to
take
a
look
at
the
map,
there's
an
area
of
the
west
side,
sort
of
that
eastern
portion
between
chestnut
and
front
street
that
we
know
that
that's
where
students
are
predominantly
and-
and
so
what
this
would
do
is
this
would
expand
the
r3
zoning
district
in
that
area
and
expand
the
area
where
students
could
live
legally.
So
again,
we
know
that
area
is
predominantly
occupied
by
students.
L
It
has
been
for
decades
and
that's
the
predominant
character
of
the
neighborhood
now
so
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
make
sense
for
to
us
for
groups
of
students
to
be
forbidden
from
living
there.
That
would
be
difficult
to
enforce.
It
would
displace
a
lot
of
students
and
displace
a
lot
of
people.
So
what
we're
proposing
is
part
of
this
is
to
convert
an
area
that
is
r2,
which
is
a
good
size
chunk
of
that
of
that
eastern
part
of
the
west
side,
where
all
dwelling
units
must
be
occupied
by
a
family.
L
We're
converting
that
to
r3
where
congregate
living
is
a
permitted
use
and
congregate.
Living
is
just
basically
a
residential
unit
where
the
occupants
are
unrelated
and
it's
rented
by
the
room.
L
D
Tito
a
process
question:
if
you
will
I'm
assuming
we're
one
of
like
45
steps.
This
also
gets
approved
by
city
council,
maybe
by
the
zoning
board,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
I'm
assuming
also
there's
going
to
be
some
sort
of
public
hearings
for
the
public
to
mouth
off
on
this,
let
me
rephrase
that
for
the
public
to
to
provide
their
input
on
this,
if
they,
especially
if
they're
living
in
this
yellow
box,
you
know
between
you,
know
st
john
zab
and
oak
street.
L
L
A
You
know
so
these.
If
these
changes
are
enacted,
it
doesn't
override
any
of
the
area,
requirements
or
number
of
parking
spaces
required
per
unit
or
any
any
of
the
changes
we
recently
made
previously
to
try
and
limit
the
number
of
units
or
the
number
of
beds
that
could
be
crammed
into
these
some
of
these
houses.
It
doesn't
change
any
of
that
correct.
L
No,
it
does
not.
No,
it
does
not.
If
you
are
in
this
newly
expanded
legal
area,
you
would,
and
you
wanted
to
add
bedrooms
or
create
a
new
concrete
living
building.
You
would
still
need
to
meet
all
the
bulk
requirements,
all
the
area,
regulations,
parking
regulations,
etc
for
that
type
of
development.
A
Okay
off
the
top
of
your
head,
just
as
a
reminder,
because
I
kind
of
it
all
gets
a
little
muddy
if
somebody
wanted
to
convert
one
of
their
houses
to
a
congregate
living
building.
I
I
forget
what
what
are
the
requirements
for
that?
As
far
as
what
are
our?
What's
our
ability
to
limit
how
many
rooms
they
could
consider
a
rentable
room.
L
So
congregate
living
is
tapped
at
10
sleeping
rooms
in
a
in
a
single
cognitive
living
unit
and
concrete
living
has
a
higher
parking
requirement
than
than
dwelling
units
do,
and
so
how
you
know
the
density
would
be
determined
by
whatever
the
constraints
are
on
that
site.
If
they
can't
provide
the
parking,
then
then
they
can't
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
to
build
that
many
units,
great.
A
So
the
reality
is,
I
guess
the
argument
against
this
has
been
well.
This
is
gonna.
I
mean
the
students
are
just
gonna
flock
to
this.
People
are
gonna,
be
carving
up
their
houses
into
huge
rental
units
and
making
all
these
changes.
That's
gonna
completely
change
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
for
the
people
that
have
been
living
there
for
years
and
are
not
interested
in
this.
But
that's
that's
probably
not
an
accurate
depiction
of
what's
going
to
happen.
Correct.
L
Yeah
the
physical
changes
we
already
you
know
we
took
that
first
step
in
2019
to
sort
of
curb
the
chopping
up
of
houses,
and
this
is
sort
of
the
next
logical
step.
Is
we
stopped
the
or
slowed
the
physical
changes
and
and
huge
increases
in
density?
L
And
now
we're
sort
of
addressing
this
part
of
it,
which
is
that
that
functional
family
rule?
Okay.
D
And
tito,
if,
if
I
understand
correctly
this
map,
I'm
done
I
mean
I
guess
I
know
I'm
I'm
looking
at
my
computer
screen,
you
got
up
on
the
on
the
shared
screen
too,
but
the
map
that
you
got
displayed.
What
this
map
is
doing,
if
you
understand
correctly,
is
better
reflecting
the
reality.
That's
already
on
the
ground.
You're,
not
you're,
we're
not
doing
this
to
encourage
more
students
to
move
into
this
neighborhood.
This
is
reflecting
the
reality.
There
already
are
many
students
already
living
in
this
neighborhood
correct,
that's
correct.
L
Yeah
and
the
purpose
is
to
be
able
to
sort
of
stop
the
spread
of
this
type
of
housing
into
neighborhoods,
where
single
and
two
family
houses
are
are
the
predominant
type
of
of
unit.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
preserving
our
housing
stock
for
potential
home
buyers
and
and
for
family
type
renters
as
well,
and
so
we,
the
purpose,
is
to
sort
of
enforce,
is
to
have
an
easier
way
to
enforce
the
family
rule
outside
of
this
expanded
area.
L
In
this
student
area,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
was
legal
for
to
rent
to
students,
because
again
we
know
that
they're
there
we
looked
at
the
map
at
the
ownership
of
the
map.
A
significant
majority
of
the
properties
are
owned
by
llcs,
many
of
which
we
know
sort
of
cater
to
that
student
market.
We
weren't
trying
to
sort
of
punish
those
landlords
or
those
students
that
live
there
again.
L
We
recognize
that
that's
the
character
of
that
neighborhood,
and
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
was
legal
for
students
to
live
there
and
again
it's
going
to
be
legal
and
sort
of
regulated
versus
being
in
this
sort
of
illegal
gray
area
that
it's
in
now
where
a
student
group
renting
in
this
area
right
now
is
technically
not
allowed
to
live
there
and
that
you
know
that
can
give
some
insecurity
to
that
group
and
to
the
landlords
as
well.
C
D
I
just
want
to
say
I
think
this
is
a
great
idea,
the
idea
that
we
can
help.
You
know,
as
tito
mentioned,
the
idea
that
you
know
the
planning
commission
can
help,
approve
this
map
and
make
sure
that
we
can
keep
some
of
those
further
west
neighborhoods.
A
Yes,
yes,
all
right
all
right,
so
let's
open
up
the
public
hearing
for
I'm
sorry
for
the
student
housing
legislation.
So
if
there's
anybody,
that's
on
the
zoom
call
that
would
like
to
speak.
A
A
E
R
Hands
raised
no
one.
L
L
So
austin
donaldson
has
his
hand
raised
austin.
You
can
go
ahead
and
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
G
By
is
austin
donaldson.
Our
address
of
record
is
po
box
2910
binghamton
new
york.
I
represent
amicus
properties,
we
we've
been
in
talks
and
what
that
the
applications
of
this
would
do
and
our
biggest
concern,
I
guess,
is
on
existing
lots
if
they
were
required
to
go
for
congregate
living,
but
don't
have
the
parking
requirements.
I
mean
I'm
even
thinking
about
some
houses
that
have
only
four
bedrooms
in
them.
G
Where
there's
no
parking
required,
no
parking,
as
is
currently
how
would
those
ones
be
affected
with
the
congregate
living
requirements
of
one
parking
spot
per
bedroom
in
the
house?
I
know
that
50
of
the
parking
requirement
can
be
waived,
but
on
those
extraordinary
lots
where
there
is
no
parking
available,
how
would
those
be
handled.
L
Yeah,
so
if,
if
you
have
the
way
this
legislation
is,
is
written,
anything
with
five
plus
bedrooms
would
be
considered
concrete
living.
So
if
you
have
a
legal
unit
that
is
according
to
our
records
on
paper
five
plus
bedrooms,
then
that's
legal
non-conforming,
that's
grandfathered
in
so
to
speak.
If
you
have
a
unit
that
is
not
legally
recognized,
as
is
then
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
that
would
either
have
to
go
to
the
planning
commission
or
be
sort
of
reformatted.
Somehow.
L
L
B
L
Right
so
the
the
gap
there
would
be
four
bedroom
units
because
they're
not
covered
by
the
current
living
change,
they're
not
covered
as
being
three
bedrooms
or
less,
and
so
in
those
instances
there
you
would
have
to
potentially
make
some
changes
if
it's,
if
it's
an
illegal
use
or
if
it's
a
use,
that's
recognized
as
let's
say
a
single
family
house
that
you
plan
on
renting
to
unrelated
students.
A
All
right,
excellent
answer,
austin
any
other
comments.
G
No,
I
think,
I
think
we're
good
from
our
end.
I
mean
it's,
it's
just
some
of
these
properties
that
are
a
little
bit
odd,
I'm
just
looking
at
the
map
here,
for
example,
if
you
go
down
chapin
street,
and
I
want
two
properties
in
there's
a
tiny
lot
there-
that
it
doesn't
have
any
parking
that
kind
of
it
backs
up
to
those
lots
that
are
on
leroy.
G
You
know
it
just
extraordinary
circumstances
where
the
lot
size,
even
if
even
if
we
could
add
parking,
won't
provide
for
it.
I
guess
in
those
situations
like
how
would
so
all
of
a
sudden,
we
could
only
have
two
people
or
three
people
in
in
the
house.
Is
that
how
I'm
understanding
it.
L
L
If
the
planning
commission
thought
it
was
appropriate,
we
could
add
to
the
amendment.
We
could
make
a
change
to
that
rule.
In
the
amendment
where
off-site
parking
within
250
feet,
let's
say
would
be
allowable
for
congregate
living
and
that
way
we
can
meet
the
parking
needs
of
the
neighborhood
without,
without
potentially
triggering
sort
of
wide
scale.
A
All
right
anybody
else
want
to
make.
T
L
L
That's
going
to
be
becoming
r3,
there's
a
small
part,
that's
r1
on
chestnut
that
will
be
becoming
r3
and
then
down
at
the
bottom.
I
don't
know
councilman
if
you
can
see
the
map,
but
the
area
outlined
in
blue,
that's
r2
and
that
will
be
coming
becoming
r1
and
the
reason
we
did
that
is
again.
That's
a
better
fit
for
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
to
the
south,
which
is
r1
and
the
ownership
of
of
those
properties
was
was
predominantly
not
llc's,
not
not
rentals.
T
So,
but
are
are
there
some
that
then,
would
be
allowed
to
be
non-fi
family
in
this
new
in
this
new
district?
I
don't
have
the
map
in
front
of
me.
L
Yes
yeah,
so
the
the
purpose
of
expanding
the
r3
district
is
so
that
there
is,
there
is
a
way
for
congregate.
Living
which
is,
in
other
words,
is
unrelated
people
living
together,
there's
a
way
for
congregate,
living
to
be
legal
in
this
area.
So
so
I
guess
the
short
answer
is
yes,
there
will
be
properties
grandfathered
in
this
area
that
are
renting
to
students
that
will
be
allowed
to
continue
doing
so.
L
E
L
U
You
so
much
good
evening,
everyone.
How
are
you
doing
great
good
good?
I
was
not
going
to
speak
until
I
saw
my
colleague
raise
his
hand
because,
as
you
know,
tito
I've
been
getting
calls
and
emails
about
this
all
day
all
week.
This
is
my
district
for
those
of
you
that
are
not
aware.
U
L
I'm
sorry
I
was
muted,
so
no,
the
maximum
number
of
beds
in
a
congregate
living
unit
are
10.
and
then
then
again,
the
amount
of
beds
that
someone
would
be
able
to
add
depends
on
how
much
parking
they
can
provide
and
whether
or
not
you
know
the
planning
commission
thinks
it's
it's
an
appropriate
project.
So
they
would
need
to
go
to
the
planning
commission.
L
So
if
it
was
too
dense
for
that
particular
lot
or
they
couldn't
provide
the
parking
or
there
was
some
other
issue,
the
planning
commission
could
could
deny
that
that
proposal.
U
U
Okay,
and
so
just
for
those
that
are
on
the
call
and
those
that
may
not
be
aware,
parking
is
a
premium
period
for
even
a
four
bedroom
single
family
dweller.
Like
myself,
we
often
have
students
parking
and
I
again
you
can
google,
where
I
live.
But
if
you
include
250
feet,
is
it
beholden
upon
the
owner
to
find
spaces
or
is
the
resident
then
allowed
to
park
in
the
non-rezoned
area
because
it
meets
the
250
feet
requirement.
L
So
the
the
property
owner
would
be
required
to
do
it.
So
if
somebody
wanted
to
either
legalize
an
existing
congregate
living
building
or
create
a
new
one,
convert
one
build
one.
They
would
have
to
go
to
the
planning
commission
and
they
would
have
to
show
that
they
meet
the
minimum
parking
requirement
and
they
could
do
that.
L
If,
if
this
rule
change
goes
into
effect,
they
could
do
that
on
a
privately
owned
lot
within
250
feet,
and
they
would
have
to
demonstrate
that
they
have
control
over
that
lot
and
they
would
have
to
demonstrate
that
that
parking
would
be
available
in
perpetuity
as
long
as
it's
necessary
to
serve
the
congregate
living
youth.
So
it
would
be
the
owners,
responsibility
and
there
they
would
have
to
prove
that
that
they
can
do
that
before
they
get
approved
by
the
planning
commission.
L
No,
it
would
have
to
be
off
street
parking.
U
Hold
on
one
second,
I'm
sorry
what
would
happen
to
those
that
are
out
of
compliance
in
the
areas
that
are
not
part
of
this
rezoning
proposal?
So
if
there
is
a
house
on
lathrop
avenue
going
towards
millard
what
would
happen
to
them
because
they
are
no
longer
following
the
zoning
ordinance
and
will
there
be
stricter
penalties
put
in
place
for
landlords
that
are
not
following
the
zoning
order,
ordinance
disowning
the
the
laws
based
upon
this
new
rezoning
structure.
L
U
That's
important
for
all
other
districts
to
understand
as
well.
We
we
have
a
lot
of
advocates
for
this
particular
part
of
town
to
rezone,
but
if
there
are
landlords
in
district
2,
district,
1,
district,
5
and
6
and
7
that
are
not
following
the
zoning
laws,
then
they
will
be
held
accountable,
correct.
L
That's
correct,
yeah,
and
as
far
as
whether
or
not
there
are
stiffer
penalties,
there's
nothing
proposed
right
now,
but
you
know
the
nature
of
the
change
or
or
the
text
itself
makes
it
easier
to
enforce
the
penalties
that
we
have
on
the
books
right
now,.
L
So
the
the
what
this
legislation
does
is
it
makes
it
so
that
it's
it's
black
and
white.
The
zoning
officer
could
go
in
determine
whether
or
not
they're
enrolled
in
a
university
by
checking
the
directory
or,
however,
the
case
may
be,
and
that
that
can
be
that
can
be
cited.
L
It
would
then
be
on
the
students
to
prove
that
they
are
a
family
if
in
fact
they
are.
Obviously
there
are
some.
There
are
going
to
be
some
instances
where
I
guess
it's
possible
that
there's
a
group
of
students
that
are
actually
related.
They
would
have
a
chance
to
appeal
by
going
to
the
zoning
board
of
appeals,
but
if
the
burden
of
proof
would
be
on
them
to
prove
that
they're,
not
students,
okay,.
U
And
then,
finally,
as
as
those
that
are
on
the
call
may
be
aware,
some
of
these
properties
are
and
are
adjacent
to
the
benefit
able
bennett
track,
and
so
those
are
larger
homes.
And,
yes,
I
think
the
maximum
you
said
was
four
bedroom.
Five
plus
units
would
be
considered
congregate
living,
but
it
is
also
if
you're
able
to
have
four
independently
functioning
people
in
four
independent
bedrooms.
U
That
then
allows
four
cars,
four
different
bags
of
trash
without
any
requirement
to
have
parking
areas
nor
the
trash
units
that
are
required.
They
would
then
be
expected
to
have
trash
compactors,
as
would
any
other
family.
The
problem
comes
when
we
do
have
a
five
bedroom
unit
with
ten
people
and
the
trash
is
thrown
about
without
any
requirements
such
as
one
of
the
big
units
that
are
provided
by
the
local
trash
agencies
is
that
so
I
know
we
discussed
this
for
multi-unit
families.
U
L
Yeah,
that's
something
we
can
look
at
is.
Is
you
know
we
can
work
with
court
counsel
on
how
to
word
that,
but
I
would
say
that
the
fact
that
we're
requiring
a
special
use
permit
from
the
planning
commission
so
we're
requiring
planning
commission
review
if
you
want
to
do
concrete
living
that
sort
of
controls
for
that,
because
one
of
the
things
that
the
planning
commission
is
charged
with
doing
is
is
making
sure
that
there's
adequate
like
waste
disposal.
So
is
there
a
dumpster?
Is
there
an
enclosure
for
garbage
receptacles?
L
That's
something
that
the
planning
commission
would
be
controlling
as
part
of
their
review.
L
L
As
far
as
the
planning
commission,
they
could
issue
a
recommendation
as
soon
as
tonight,
and
so
that
would
sort
of
end
their
role
in
the
process,
but
there
would
still
be
plenty
of
opportunity
to
cut
to
submit
comment
to
council
before
a
vote
takes
place
and
again,
if
they
send
those
comments
to
planning
at
city
of
binghamton.gov,
we
may
we'll
make
sure
that
they
get
those
comments
get
to
city
council.
L
Nick
we
have
austin
donaldson
raising
his
hand
again
if
you'd
like,
to
give
him
permission
to
speak.
L
A
And
while
we're
waiting,
are
we
you're
looking
for
a
motion
tonight
for
a
recommendation
for
approval
approval
with
revisions,
denial.
L
L
I
think,
based
on
what
I'm
hearing
subject
to
certain
changes,
the
off-site
parking,
the
ability
to
provide
parking
off-site-
and
I
don't
know
if
you
all
want
to
address
the
dumpsters
or
waste
disposal
as
part
of
it
too,
or
we
can
leave
that
up
to
council,
but
it
would
be
a
motion
to
approve
with
changes.
E
E
A
I
think
you
covered
it
pretty
well
that
the
trash
issue
gets
covered
when
somebody
comes
in
for
a
review
by
us
pretty
much.
This
pretty
standard
review
party.
B
F
H
F
Three
students
living
there,
but
they
have
friends
over
every
weekend.
There
are
multiple
cars
was
it
yesterday
or
saturday,
one
of
the
days
they
had
like
a
long
during.
I
think
it
was
saturday
day,
long,
drinking
and
music
really
loud
and
everything.
I
did
end
up,
calling
the
police
on
13th
chestnut,
not
this
past
weekend,
but
the
one
before
because
it
was
midnight
and
there
was
a
lot
of
music.
There
were
strangers
in
my
yard.
There's
kids
park
up.
F
All
over
chestnut
I
talked
to
the
girls
next
door.
I
don't
really
want
to
have
to
be
in
the
position
to
call
the
police
and
I
don't
feel
like
I
should
have
to
to
live
in
my
neighborhood.
So
I
don't
know
that
the
prescription
of
saying
oh
three
college
students
is
okay.
We
literally
have
from
number
two
to
number
20
on
our
blocks.
That's
supposed
to
be
single
family
housing.
F
I
have
no
problem
with
the
being
and
my
neighbors
too
I'm
not
just
speaking
for
myself.
It's
people
all
the
way
down
johnson
there's
people
on
chestnut.
You
know
there
are
houses
that
are
rented
out
to
single
families
or
a
single
person,
and
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
problem.
F
Those
aren't
the
only
rentals
on
our
street,
but
the
students
bring
a
whole
different
element
of
everything
and
I
just
feel
like
there
is
enough
housing
for
them,
and
I
also
I'm
on
the
bingington
school
board
and
one
of
the
issues
we've
been
talking
about
is
decreased
enrollment
and
talking
about
maybe
closing
in
elementary
school,
but
part
of
the
problem
with
parents
being
able
to
is
that
parents
can't
get
affordable
around
horseman
or
around
jefferson,
and
I
think
these
rentals,
even
just
in
these
couple
blocks,
are
definitely
having
an
effect
on
our
student
enrollment.
F
So
you
know
they
also
mentioned
in
our
school
board
meeting
that
dr
stenger
had
talked
to
tanya
thompson
and
said
there's
more
than
enough
on
campus
housing
for
students.
I
guess
they
might
want
to
live
off
campus.
I
have
to
college
students
myself,
but
I
just
feel
like
to
preserve
our
neighborhood
and
have
some
kind
of
balance
with
the
university
students.
F
F
Okay,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
your
consideration
man
I
just
I
know
myself
as
well
as
a
lot
of
you
and
a
lot
of
people
on
the
left
side
or
all
over
binghamton.
Have
you
know,
grown
up
in
this
area.
Moved
back
to
this
area
have
invested
in
their
properties,
and
it's
there
just
has
to
be
a
better
balance
that
also
weighs
on
the
homeowner's
side.
So
I
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you
very
much.
M
L
M
L
A
D
D
I'm
not
sure
how
official
our
language
needs
to
be,
but
you
know
I'd
be,
and
we
also
also
talked
about
you
know,
possibly
updating
with
the
trash
dumpster
requirement
or
something
I'm
okay,
with
making
a
recommendation
that
city
council
that
we
approve
this
and
said
the
city
council
for
their
consideration
and
can
sit.
Then
you
know
they
should
want
to
consider
the
250
foot
rule
and
the
trash
rule
how's.
B
I
believe
so,
but
I
think
cheetah
will
probably
end
up
drafting
the
letter
for
you
and
circulating
it.
Probably
to
you
so
tito
is
that
sufficient
information
for
you
to
draft
a
letter,
a
recommendation.
D
That
we,
we
want,
you
guys
to
consider
the
trash
along
with
the
250-foot
parking
rule,
okay
for
possible
updates
and.
L
Okay,
so
you
recommend
approval
subject
to
including
language
allowing
off-site
parking,
be
located
remotely
within
250
feet
and
encouraging
council
to
consider
regulations
around
garbage
storage,
yeah.
A
All
right
is
there
a
second
on
chris's
motion,
all
second,
all
right
seconded
by
manny,
all
in
favor,
mario,
yes,
paul,
yes,
chris,
yes,
kelly.
B
A
L
Yes,
so
this
one
is
is
a
little
more
straightforward.
L
All
of
this
legislation
does
is
it
defines
cannabis,
related
businesses
under
three
categories
which
are
based
on
the
categories
that
the
state
has
set
for
their
licenses.
L
So
there
will
be
three
types
of
cannabis:
businesses
they'd,
be
industrial
that
is
like
growing
processing
and
distributing
they'd,
be
so
the
industrial
cannabis
business
there'd
be
an
on-site
consumption
cannabis
business
use,
which
is
for
places
where
you
would
go
to
consume
cannabis,
sort
of
socially
or
recreationally,
similar
to
like
a
how
a
bar
works
for
alcohol
and
then
there's
cannabis
retail,
which
is
where
you
would
go,
buy
cannabis
products
and
take
them
off
site,
just
retail,
you
buy
them
and
take
them
home.
L
So
those
would
be
three
new
uses
in
the
code
and
then
the
other
thing
that
the
amendment
does
is
that
it
allows
those
uses
in
certain
districts.
So
industrial
cannabis
would
be
a
lot
in
industrial
districts
and
so
on
so
similar
to
the
student
housing
legislation,
we're
looking
for
a
recommendation
to
city
council
to
approve
approval
conditions
or
deny.
D
Nick,
I
actually
have
a
question
about
that.
Yeah,
and
maybe
this
is
for
brian.
Maybe
this
is
for
tito.
Maybe
this
is
for
some
state
bureaucrat
who's,
not
on
the
call,
but
about
those
red
striped
buffers
on
the
map
around
schools,
two
questions.
D
First,
it
was
brought
to
my
attention
by
somebody
that
st
james
has
a
school
in
johnson
city
which
is
technically
off
of
the
binghamton
portion
of
the
map,
but
maybe
the
red
striping
would
overlap
like
sort
of
like
the
north
west
corner,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
been
considered
or
or
if
it
needs
to
be
considered
when
when
this
map
is
possibly
redrafted.
D
A
second
question
that
was
brought
to
my
attention
was
the
binghamton
city.
School
district
has
recently
circulated
some
mailings
to
homeowners
and
residents
about
potential
plans
to
rebuild
and
or
close
schools.
D
L
Though,
first
saint
james
is
is
more
than
500
feet
away
from
the
border
and
then,
if
a
school
were
to
close,
then
then
yeah
effectively
the
the
red
bubble,
I
think,
would
go
away.
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
this
map
is
not
a
rezoning
or
anything
we're
doing
we're
just
showing
the
buffers
where
people
would
not
be
able
to
get
licenses,
so
it
it
for
each
new
business
that
wants
to
open.
A
I
got
you
all
right.
Well,
let's
take
care
of
that
right
away.
Then
all
right,
so,
let's
open
the
public
hearing
for
the
cannabis
business
legislation.
A
L
T
L
T
My
concern
would
be
the
the
clean
air
act
in
that
when,
when
cigarette
smoking
was
then
outlawed
in
restaurants
and
everything,
there
were
many
restaurants
who
I
actually
agree
with.
That
said
that
you
don't
have
to
come
into
my
restaurant,
we're
going
to.
I
want
to
allow
smoking
and
the
law
said
no,
because
the
employees
then
well,
they
don't,
they
can
go
work
somewhere
else.
No,
you
can't
because
you
you're
making
people
choose
between
their
health
and
their
employment,
so
it
was
completely
outlawed.
T
Nobody
could
smoke
anywhere
and
now,
if
they're
gonna,
if
they're
going
to
allow
smoking,
I
do
know
like
the
cdc
has
on
their
website
about
pregnant
women,
smoking
marijuana.
So,
theoretically
we
could
have
a
young
woman,
not
knowing
that
she's
pregnant
for
the
first
six
or
eight
weeks
or
whatever
and
breathing
in
this
smoke
for
that
eight
weeks.
T
So
my
concern
is
this:
the
actual
smoking
of
it
in
the
closed
environment
and
also
I,
I
think
that
it
encourages
the
driving
while
intoxicated
because
I
can
go
into
a
restaurant,
I
don't
drink,
I
can
go
into
a
restaurant
and
come
out
and
not
be
drunk,
and
so
I
can
go
in
with
a
group
of
people
and
I
can
drive
them
home
because
I'm
out
with
them,
you
cannot
have
everybody
go
into
a
place
where
that's
full
of
marijuana
can
expect
anybody
to
come
out
and
be
the
designated
driver
unless
they
were
waiting
in
the
car.
T
A
All
right
anybody
else
coming.
A
All
right,
let's
wait,
one
more.
E
T
E
L
And
again,
this
is
changing
all
the
time,
but
again
the
last.
I
heard
that
the
state
was
saying
that
wherever
tobacco
smoking
is
not
permitted
cannabis,
smoking
would
would
also
not
be
permitted.
So
just
in
reference
to
councilman
burns's
question.
Thank
you.
Excellent.
A
All
right
well
seeing
all
their
hands
raised
and
no
phone
calls
coming
in.
Let's
close
the
public
hearing
for
the
cannabis
legislation,
canada's
business
legislation
all
right.
Anybody
have
any
comments,
questions
about
anything.
Anybody
want
to
make
a
motion.
D
A
All
right
seconded
by
manny,
all
in
favor,
mario,
yes,
paul,
yes,
chris,
yes,
kelly,
yes
and
manny.
Yes,
I'm
also
a
yes.
So
that's
six
in
favor,
zero
opposed
all
right.
L
Yep
so
nick
this
is
actually
a
city
request
to
rezone
187
clinton
street.
We
have
a
a
proposal
in
the
works
that
we're
looking
to
get
funded
by
the
state
to
develop,
affordable
housing
at
this
location
and
right
now.
This
lot
is
zoned.
Industrial
and
industrial
districts
do
not
permit
dwelling
units,
and
so,
in
order
to
do
a
mixed-use
building
on
this
site,
we
would
need
to
rezone
it
to
c4.
L
There
are
other
options,
but
c4
makes
the
most
sense,
because
most
of
clinton
street,
including
to
the
north,
east
and
west,
is
already
c4
neighborhood
commercial,
so
it
would
fit
into
the
neighborhood
and
it
would
allow
those
dwelling
units
to
be
built
there.
Like
we
mentioned
before
during
student
housing
conversation,
we
have
a
shortage
of
housing,
not
just
affordable
housing
but
housing
at
every
price
point.
So
we
wanted
to
do
what
we
could
to
facilitate
this
project.
A
All
right
is
this:
does
this
need
a
public
hearing,
or
this
is
just
straight
up-
our
recommendation
for
approval
or
denial.
L
This
does
not
require
public
hearing
from
the
planning
commission.
We
could
open
it
up
to
comment
if
anybody's
here,
that's
up
to
you,
but
a
recommendation
would
be
enough.
All.
A
Right
all
right:
let's
throw
it
open
to
public
comment
if
anybody's
on
the
zoom
call
that
would
like
to
speak
about
it.
Why
not?
So
this
is
the
we're
opening
a
public
hearing
about
the
rezoning
of
187
clinton
street.
If
anybody
would
like
to
speak
about
that,
they
could
raise
their
hand
if
anybody
wanted
to
call
in
about
it
number
607-772-7000.
A
We'll
wait
one
minute.
L
A
All
right
sounds
good
well
in
that
case,
since
we
don't
have
any
calls
and
no
hands
are
raised,
we'll
close
that
public
hearing
this
doesn't
seem
to
be
controversial.
Anybody
have
any
concerns
or
questions
about
this.
A
That
the
planning
commission
recommends
approval
of
this
proposal.
B
B
L
And
one
more
thing
nick
is
that
we
will
be
doing
public
noticing
prior
to
the
city
council
business
meeting,
so
we
will
be
notifying
the
public
of
the
opportunity
to
speak
at
that
meeting.
All
right.
A
A
All
right
we're
probably
better.
Yes,
we
should
do
that.
We
should
all
consider
why
chris
was
had
so
much
information
about
mushrooms
and
psychedelic
events
in
basements.