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May 8, 2017 - City Council Special Session
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We're
back
and
we
have
a
quorum
I,
in
fact
everybody
here
now
we
move
right
along
here
to
presentation
and
discussion
to
create
a
transportation,
Advisory,
Committee
and
draft
ordinance.
Again.
This
is
discussion
only
we
have
a
presentation
by
city
manager,
David
Hales
and
all
the
woman
Emilia
Burgas
for
about
five
minutes
and
then
about
25
minutes
of
council
discussion
on
this,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
mr.
Hales
and
all
the
woman,
Burgas
yeah.
E
Thank
You,
mayor
and
city
council
tonight,
what
we're
bringing
to
you
in
this
work
session
is
a
draft
ordinance
that
deals
with
the
establishment
of
the
transportation
Advisory
Commission,
and
that
title
could
definitely
change.
But,
as
its
indicated,
both
myself
and
staff
recommend
council
give
favorable
consideration
of
this
particular
request.
E
We
do
see
a
number
of
benefits
and
value
in
establishing
such
a
committee.
I
think
the
time
has
come
as
we
continue
to
work
on
things
such
as
Complete
Streets
and
the
implementation
plan
for
Complete
Streets,
which
is
still
a
work
in
progress
where
a
staff
is
really
majors,
very
limited
progress
today
this
and
the
future
that
is
going
to
entail
greater
citizen
participation
and
transparency
over
what
that
means
on
an
implementation.
How
do
we
continue
through
Street
planning
design
tried
to
incorporate
multi
modal
use
and
activity
on
these
streets?
E
Think
purse
and
foremost,
is
that
whenever
a
committee
is
considered
to
be
established,
it
is
so
critical
that
you
be
very
specific
as
to
what
your
expectations,
what
your
direction
or
charge
is,
and
what
do
you
really
want
this
committee
to
do
if
anything,
I
think,
hopefully
at
some
point
in
the
future,
we'll
have
a
little
more
discussion.
Is
there
ways
we
could
even
do
a
little
better
job,
sometimes
with
many
of
our
existing
committees?
E
Secondly,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
our
timeline
is
such
that
we're
bringing
this
to
you
in
a
work
session
as
bit
as
been
our
protocol
and
then
in
two
weeks
we
would
bring
it
back
for
final
council
action
on,
say
a
regular
agenda
item.
We've
worked
with
aldermen
Burgas,
as
she
has
done
a
great
deal
of
research
and
analysis
of
what
other
cities
have
done
and
how
they've
created
such
committees.
So
we've
incorporated
that
and
both
myself
and
other
staff
members
will
be
happy
to
give
further
input
or
answer
any
questions.
E
F
One
area
where
we've
received
some
clarification
from
staff
is
regard
to
the
the
the
personnel
makeup
of
this
particular
commission,
because
we
had
discussed
earlier
whether
this
would
be
a
hybrid
Commission,
whether
it
continued
to
be
a
staff
Commissioner
would
whether
it
be
more
closely
aligned
with
our
other
boards
and
commissions
with
erat,
which
are
all
volunteer.
Citizens
and
staff
felt
it.
We
best
at
least
assume
my
understanding.
F
It
would
be
best
to
be
consistent
with
the
other
commissions
and
to
move
toward
a
citizen
based
Commission,
that
is
supported
by
staff
and
where
staff
is
making
recommendations
and
providing
guidance,
but
the
actual
Advisory
Commission
itself
would
be
full
of
citizens
and
residents,
and
then
it
was
just
a
matter
of
discussing
numbers.
We
thought
seven
was,
you
know,
good,
a
numbers
any,
because
five
would
five
would
make
it
difficult
to
get
quorum.
F
Things
like
that,
so
that
was
one
of
the
I
think
one
of
the
main
results
from
our
conversation
in
January
other
than
that.
It's
mostly
been
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
language
in
any
proposed
ordinance
is
very
clear
as
to
expectations.
Obviously
we
don't
want
lay
people
making
technical
engineering
specification
recommendations.
That's
really
not
the
goal
here.
The
goal
here
is
to
help
us
out
and
to
bring
it
into
the
process.
Public
comment
on
more
these
policy
issues.
F
F
But
my
understanding
is,
it
would
be
completely
outside
of
this
Commissioner
body
to
ever
actually
have
like
physically,
have
the
engineering
specifications
for
a
road
and
to
make
any
comment
on
that,
and
it's
just
very
much
outside
what
they're
doing,
but
when
it
comes
to
something
policy
related
such
as
is
this
road
appropriate
for
implementation
of
Complete
Streets
and
what
that
might
look
like,
or
if
there
were
a
change
that
would
have
an
impact
on
the
public.
Where
there's
you
know
again,
a
policy
level
decision
that
would
be
discussed
there.
F
So
this
would
not
be
something
where
the
Commission
could
make.
Recommendations
are
contrary
to
state
law,
federal
regulations.
Things
like
that.
This
is
we're.
Looking
for
that
policy,
level,
area
and
and
I
know
it's
somewhat
difficult.
We've
struggled
with
how
do
we
make
that
clear
and
I
think
part
of
that
will
be
the
staff
liaison
the
traffic
engineer,
making
sure
that
the
way
that
these
questions
are
posed
and
the
way
information
is
brought
to
the
to
the
Commission
is
appropriate
for
what
that
Commission
has
been
empowered
to
do
so.
G
When
any
of
us
receive
as
I'm
sure
we
all
do,
request
from
a
resident
may
be
for
traffic
calming,
you
know,
I
all
say:
that's
a
stack
conversation,
here's
the
form
etc.
Is
that
something
that
funnels
into
this
commission
or
is
this
something
that
that
that
our
public
works
continues
to
work
with
and
how.
F
Does
their
and
I
think
that's
probably
a
good
good
example
of
how
something
that
would
go
to
this
border
commission
traffic
calming
measures
could
go
there,
however,
because
for
the
most
part
that
is
a
policy
level
decision.
So,
okay,
do
we
want
to
use
speed
bumps
somewhere
and
that's
a
policy
level
decision,
but
within
that
there
would
be
some
decisions
like,
for
example,
the
size
of
the
speed
bump.
The
this
board
would
never
be
responsible
for
that
they're
not
going
to
make
a
four
foot
high
bump.
F
F
And
I
think
that
would
be
that
that
would
be
their
written
form
yeah.
But
that
would
be
the
report
to
this
body
that
we
part
of
that
report
to
this
body
and
that's
pretty
similar
what
the
the
Planning
Commission
does,
or
the
Zoning
Board
of
Appeals,
where
they're,
given
a
technical
analysis
that
kind
of
under
underlays
or
it's
the
foundation
for
the
policy
level
decision
and
and
I.
Think
we've
always
been
very,
very
clear
that
this
will
always
be
an
Advisory
Commission.
B
F
E
My
intent
is
that
you
know
who
all
needs
to
kind
of
give
some
input
or
do
you
have
input
to
give?
And
if
you
don't,
there
may
not
be
any
input
you
know
coming
to
them,
but
we
don't
want
to
necessarily
limit
what
might
be
good
valuable
input.
But
we
also
don't
want
to
be
overly
burdensome,
which
I
think
is
kind
of
the
case
with
the
makeup.
Or
what
stack
is
we
even
had
people
from
the
outside
which,
even
in
the
meetings
I've
said
and
I
kind
of
questioned?
E
What
value
and
benefit
are
we
getting
on
some
of
those
because
it
was
such
a
localized
issue?
So
but,
as
you
say,
community
development
plays
a
very
critical
role,
especially
as
the
gatekeepers
of
the
comp
plan
and
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
there
and
I
think
as
you
continue
as
with
one-stop
shopping,
and
things
like
that,
so
they'll
continue
to
be.
You
know
very
much
a
part
of
the
entire
staff
that
could
be
called
upon,
depending
upon
the
matter
at
hand
to
for
this,
for
the
preparation
of
recommendations
that
will
go
to
this
committee.
Yeah.
B
B
F
F
That
a
decision
was
made
behind
closed
doors
that
they
could
not
participate
in
and
that's
the
way
the
city
had
done
it
for
a
long
period
of
time
and
and
then
looking
at
how
other
departments
handle
it
and
have
you
know,
moved
past
that
with
other
boards
and
commissions,
so
I
think
my
two
main
goals
are
transparency
and
involvement
and
I
think
that
we
will
easily
be
able
to
see
that
as
successful
and
certainly
there's
a
high
probability.
It
will
because
number
one
the
meeting
will
be
public.
There
will
be
agendas,
there
will
be
minutes.
F
So
if
there's
any
question
about
what
was
decided
that
there's
an
easy
answer
and
there
will
be
opportunity
for
public
comment
and
both
of
those
those
those
pieces
have
been
missing
from
these
conversations
for
many
many
years
and
again,
that
was
just
the
city's
policy.
That's
you
know,
no
one
was
hiding
anything.
It
was
there's
nothing
insidious,
here's
just
the
way
it
was,
but
given
our
recent
conversations
that
are
very
policy
based
I
can
see
how
this
would
be
very
helpful
to
us
as
a
council
as
well
to
begin
having
these
conversations.
I.
Certainly.
B
F
And
I
think
that
there
are
some
in
here,
you
know
help
with
implementation
of
Complete
Streets.
What
does
that?
Look
like
provided
life?
Brainstorming,
make
recommendations
to
council
about
what
actions
can
be
taken.
I
certainly
hope
that
this
commission,
that
I
think
we
know
that
there
are
many
people
in
the
community
who
are
interested
in
this
area
and
I
hope
that
we
end
up
having
a
very
active
commission
that
works
closely
with
staff
to
collaborate
and
to
brightest,
greater
greater
input
in
the
process.
In.
F
F
Commission
is
not
the
Historic
Preservation
Advisory
Commission,
and
this
you
know
just
as
a
matter
of
nomenclature,
because
I
think
if
we,
if
we
keep
it
in
there
and
it's
just
kind
of
an
artifact
of
stack,
it
would
keep
it
in
there.
It
could
cause
confusion
that
there
were
some
intent
there,
above
and
beyond
what
the
ordinance
states
yeah
in
what.
F
Like
any
other
board
and
Commission
council
council
yeah
makes
the
decision
the
fight
of
the
final
recommendation,
yeah
I
mean
we've
seen
that
was
owning.
We've
seen
that
probably
not
recently
I'm
sure
we
feed
on
planning
where
there
are
disparate
opinions
in
council,
as
the
elected
officials
makes
the
final
decision.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
D
D
F
H
Would
no
longer
that's
part
of
the
resolution
was
to
dissolve
the
staff
traffic
Advisory
Commission.
You
know
that
in
its
current
form,
and
so
then
it
would
again,
as
the
city
manager
would
designate
who
would
be
before
the
traffic
advisor
transportation.
Advisory
Commission
would
revise
the
appropriate
people.
Even
people,
like
you,
know,
parks,
recreation,
cultural
arts.
You
know
there
might
be
Constitution
trails
and-
and
just
so
the
council's
aware-
that's
currently
what's
done
now
with
stack
it's,
you
know,
it
starts
off
with
a
set
group,
but
it
can
bring
others
in
as
well.
A
I
I
H
I
guess
it's:
it
is
important
for
the
council
to
know
we
didn't
ignore
your
conversation
on
January
17
since
that
time,
any
any
issue
that
came
before
the
staff
traffic,
no
transportation
traffic
advisory
committee.
The
citizens
were
invited
to
come
in.
They
were
told
about
the
time
it
was
a
public
process.
They
had
the
ability,
we
considered
it
an
education
type
process.
So
we
did
take
that
as
that
interim
step
from
the
City
Council
between
then
and
now,
okay,.
I
Because
I
guess
I
need
some
help,
understanding
and
I'm,
not
sure
who
to
direct
us
to,
but
but
I
did
go
back
and
review
the
the
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting
from
January,
17th
and-
and
it
starts
at
about
an
hour
and
32
minutes-
goes
to
around
an
hour
and
48
minutes.
I
know:
I
I
talked
about
an
incremental
approach,
I
won't
put
words
in
in
bocas
mouth,
but
but
he
mentioned
that
as
well.
I
Scott
may
have
alluded
to
it,
although
in
a
different,
different
wording
and
and
so
I
guess
I'm
having
trouble
understanding
how
we
we
get
from
a
sense
of
a
council
that
that
we
like
to
look
at
anymore,
incremental,
measured
approach
and
I
think
even
even
Terry
it
if
I
recall
at
an
hour
and
38
minutes.
Even
even
the
mayor
said
yeah,
maybe
we
open
it
up.
F
Like
you
know,
I,
let
me
give
you
my
perspective.
My
memory
and
I
have
reviewed
that
meeting
as
well
is
that
comments
were
made
and
then
the
directive
was
given
to
staff
to
come
to
us
with
a
proposal,
and
this
is
now
staff
coming
to
us
with
a
proposal
and
and
I
think.
Certainly
one
one
aspect
would
have
been
to
do
a
hybrid
Commission,
but
again
it's
my
understanding.
Staff
thought
it
was
best
to
be
consistent
with
our
awards.
F
Can
commissions,
certainly
I,
think
if
people
are
not
comfortable
with
that,
we
could
take
a
different
approach,
but
you
know
I
think
that
our
other
boards
and
commissions
work
very
well
and,
and
so
under
the
close
oversight
of
the
traffic
engineer.
I
think
we
could
get
some
very
nice
results
out
of
this
and.
I
See
I
guess
my
recollection
would
differ
a
little
bit
from
that
in
it
that
the
direction
the
staff
was
to
come
back
with
some
recommendations
on
how
to
incremental
II
open
up
stack
to
allow
more
public
engagement,
open
meetings,
posting
of
agendas
minutes
that
type
of
thing,
not
to
necessarily
come
back
with
a
full-blown
I
mean
to
me.
It
appears
that
that
upon
reviewing
and
again
I
would
encourage
that,
starting
at
an
hour,
32
minutes
into
that
meeting
to
review
the
comments
of
the
council.
I
It
appears
to
me
that
staff
did
what
we
asked
them
to
do,
and
so
that's
why
I'm
still
puzzled
as
to
the
rationale
or
all
of
a
sudden,
the
appearance
of
a
brand
new
board
and
Commission.
But
let
me
talk
about
that.
A
little
bit
later,
I
have
another
question
specifically
about
the
the
material
that's
presented.
This
is
in
Section
301.
I
Looking
at
point
number,
four,
the
first
sentence
there,
where
it
says
item,
shall
be
placed
on
the
Commission
agenda
by
the
chairperson
of
the
Commission
appropriate
city
staff
and
then
calls
out
some
specific
staff
now
I
know
I
haven't
it's
been
a
while,
since
I
served
on
the
Planning
Commission,
this
idea
I'm
a
little
bit
I
need
some
help.
Understanding
do
we
have
other
boards
and
commissions,
because
usually
the
process
of
the
protocol
that's
been
followed
is
we
have?
We
may
have
direction
from
us
from
from
the
City
Council,
the
elected
officials.
I
We
may
have
something
that
comes
out
of
some
prioritization
document
that
would
go
to
staff
and
then
from
staff,
be
channeled
up
and
work
through
a
respective
board
or
Commission.
That's
kind
of
how
the
flow
of
topics
and
material
works
with
the
boards
and
commissions
I'm
not
familiar.
We
have
other
boards
and
commissions
where
we
have
and
I'm
specifically
concerned
about
the
issue
of
traffic
management
and
public
safety,
where
we
would
have
a
chairperson
of
a
commission
putting
things
on
the
agenda.
K
K
A
On
that
just
B,
if
the
Commission
doesn't
like
what
a
commitment
chair
is
doing,
they
can
remove
them,
I
mean
if
there
was,
if
they
weren't
as
Jimmy,
says,
sort
of
working
together,
but
I
mean
as
I
understand
it.
This
is
goes
back
to
the
early
summer
right
Emelia,
where
you
had
a
version
of
this
proposal
and
was
bringing
forward
there
could
have
been
an
incremental
approach,
sounds
like
staff
did
a
little
bit
of
an
incremental
ouch
over
the
last
couple
months
anyway.
So
any
other
comments,
no.
J
Sorry,
oh,
you
know
I,
you
know
I
I'm
not
opposed
to
this
generally,
but
I
I.
Remember
David,
talking
about
earlier
that
the
staff
made
some
staff
attempts.
You
know
and
I
and
I
feel,
like
I,
haven't
heard
fully
from
the
staff
about
what
the
results
of
those
were.
You
know
did
it
work,
they
did
not
work,
it's
just
as
a
I
mean
to
me
as
a
matter.
I
would
feel
better.
E
Let
me
give
you
just
some
of
my
observations
over
eight
years
and
it
and
if
there's
anything,
I,
think
the
the
current
or
former
stack
committee
was
one
that
over
the
years,
there's
been
a
lot
of
criticism
and
even
if
you
get
into
some
of
the
rules
and
regulations,
we've
established
safer
traffic
calming
devices.
Many
of
these
have
been
established
by
the
engineers
and
I
think
they're.
They
served
us
well
but
often
times
we
get
asked
the
question.
Well,
you
know
yeah
I,
don't
like
that
because
it
won't
serve
my
needs.
E
Can
we
change
the
rules
and
regulations
so
rather
than
staff
necessarily
having
the
final
say
over
some
of
those
rules
and
regulations?
I
think
it'll
kind
of
insulate
staff
a
little
bit
more.
If,
ultimately,
this
committee
reviews
those
and
the
council
can
either
approve
them
or
delegate
to
the
city
manager,
the
authority
to
approve
those
but
often
times
that
you
can
raise
the
same
issue
with
speed
limits
and
and
many
other
issues,
traffic
related,
whether
or
not
a
crosswalk
ought
to
be
put
in
and
at
well.
The
engineers
use
this
kind
of
standard.
E
E
You
know
in
a
private
manner,
behind
closed
doors,
because
there's
some
times
when
police
and
fire
and
engineers
you
know
that
they'll
sometimes
have
differences
of
opinion
of
how
to
address
an
issue.
They
can
do
that,
but
ultimately,
there's
going
to
be
a
report
that
is
going
to
go
on
to
this
committee.
That's
going
to
be
a
public
document
available
for
everyone
to
see,
including
the
applicant
and
then
for
the
committee
to
or
Commission
to
kind
of,
hear
all
sides
and
then
make
a
recommendation
to
the
council.
E
B
E
This
is
it,
you
know.
Sometimes
it's
not
going
to
happen
as
quickly
or
maybe,
as
you
may
want
to
see
individually,
because
it
is
going
to
go
through
the
committee,
just
like
the
Planning,
Commission
and
and
many
others
so
but
I
I
think
it's
a
good
evolution
of
where
we've
been
staff
is
still
going
to
play
a
critical
role
in
giving
those
professional
technical
recommendations,
and
even
sometimes
there
may
be
differences
of
opinion
on
a
technical
level.
But
those
will
come
forward
for
the
committee,
the
Commission
to
consider
well.
J
E
Let
me
go
back
to
I.
Think
the
first
part
and
I
will
say
this.
Even
as
I've
read,
this
I've
had
the
same
thought
and
question
of
well.
How
is
it
going
to
work
in
this
or
that
there's
no
doubt
I
think
we
start
with
the
Commission
as
its
identified
and
then
over
this
next
year.
We'll
continue
to
learn,
I,
think
many
things
as
we
put
it
in
practice,
and
both
staff
and
the
Commission
can
always
come
back
to
the
council
and
say
we
would
recommend
these
changes.
As
an
example,
I
do
think.
E
There's
still
some
issues
dealing
with
traffic
that
both
the
Commission
and
the
council
may
say.
You
know
what
let's
push
that
back
on
the
administration,
but
I
think
they
will
define
that
so
that
it
is
very
clear.
That's
you
know
not
necessarily
something
that
the
Commission
the
council
wants
to
always
deal
with
on
an
ongoing
basis,
but
we
just
need
some
practice
in
that.
Let's
try
it
and
then
I
think
within
that
six
twelve
months
come
back
with
recommendations.
E
How
to
fine-tune
it
because
it
is,
is
a
work
in
progress
the
same
with
the
entire
Complete
Streets
philosophy.
Even
this
implementation
plan,
I
think
is
going
to
be
a
learning
experience
for
all
of
us
as
we
find
our
way
and
something
that
we,
you
know
all
really
haven't,
had
that
kind
of
experience
with
Thank.
L
Having
to
run
against
the
clock,
yeah
thank
you
million
for
putting
this
together
in
the
way
that
I
understood
stack
from
before
is
that
it
was
a.
There
was
a
project
that
came
through
it
and
staff
denied
it
or
do
not
recommend
moving
forward.
That
was
the
end
of
the
process
that
it
would
go
to
David
and
okay
and
I
thought
part
of
it.
Part
of
that
that
disconnect
that
I
was
feeling
from
the
public
was
that
there
was
not
a
citizen's
voice
as
part
of
that
process.
L
To
kind
of
hear
that-
and
my
fear
was
that
if
we
had
a
group
of
folks
that
came
in
and
said,
okay
speed
limits,
40,
we
wanted
to
be
30.
Well,
let's
just
settle
on
35
I,
don't
that
was
making
you
uncomfortable
moving
forward.
But
what
I'm
seeing
here
is
a
kind
of
building
a
framework
that
has
been
successful
for
other
Commission's
I'd
be
willing
to
give
it
a
shot.
L
I
mean
my
biggest
thing
that
I
saw
in
here
that
I
just
would
bring
up
is
that
it's
designed
to
handle
complaints,
which
is
on
my
PDF
page
19,
received
complaints
having
to
the
transportation
matters.
I'd
want
to
see
flush
out
a
little
bit,
and
what
response
is
given
to
those
complaints
is
a
written
statement
back
I
mean.
Is
it
just
kind
of
we
reviewed
it,
and
that's
it
that'd
be
my
only
piece
at
this
point
in
time
and
7,
no
sure
but
I
think
having
that
close
relationship.
L
The
staff
is
going
to
be
key,
because
these
issues
are
are
technical
in
nature
and
I'd
be
uncomfortable
with
having
people
trying
to
to
write
policy
when
they
may
not
have
the
technical
expertise
to
do
so.
That
says,
this
engagement
is
always
a
good
thing,
but
VOCA
talks
about
this
frequently
where
at
the
more
public
trust
we
build.
The
better
and
getting
people
involved
is
a
good
thing
so
well,
dr.
olin.
A
J
C
G
E
A
I
think
we
had
some
questions
concerns,
but
it
seems
as
if
we
can
probably
bring
this
up
for
a
vote
and
it
may
be
possible
amendments
in
the
near
future.
Okay,
do
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
second,
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
we're
adjourned
and
we
will
meet
we're
supposed
to
meet
in
two
minutes.
We'll
say
three
minutes
because
I'm
a
softy.