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March 12, 2018 - City Council Special Session
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A
B
C
B
Well,
we're
back
into
regular
session
and
at
this
point
the
first
item
is
the
MOU
presentation
and
discussion
on
the
memory
of
Memorandum
of
Understanding,
with
the
friends
of
the
Bloomington
Center
for
the
Performing
Arts
of
BC
PA,
to
establish,
define
and
coordinate
a
mutually
beneficial
relationship,
as
defined.
Excuse
me,
as
requested
by
the
Bloomington
Center
for
the
Performing
Arts,
and
we
start
out
with
a
presentation
by
mr.
Ted
sloth
and
of
miss
Tilton.
And
then
we
will
have
a
council
discussion
for
approximately
20
minutes
summit
turned
it
over
you
J
and
then
Vicki
sir.
D
Thank
you
very
much
for
this
time
tonight,
I
gave
a
copy
of
presentation
to
everyone,
so
you
can
follow
along
as
we
go.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
do
on,
introduce.
We
are
performing
arts
manager,
miss
here,
Jim
Mack,
so
I
wanted
to
introduce
him
to
all
of
you.
So
we
can
see
you
know
where
we're
going.
He
is
the
division
chief.
In
essence,
so
more
and
more
times
you
see
the
BCP
a
more
and
more
times,
you'll
see
Jim,
but
this
is
really
for
him
to
take
this
division.
D
E
Good
evening,
I
think
most
of
you
know
me:
I
am
Vicki
Tilton,
but
tonight
I'm
here
in
the
role
of
president
of
the
Friends
of
the
BC
PA
I,
want
to
appeal
to
you
to
move
ahead
with
yes
votes
tonight
on
this
mou,
I
cannot
begin
to
give
you
the
history
of
this
endeavor
in
three
or
four
minutes.
My
personal
involvement
goes
back
to
day
one
over
ten
years
ago.
E
I
am
only
one
of
many
people
that
had
a
vision
and
a
passion
for
what
can
be
what
should
be
and
what
must
be
to
provide
culturally
diverse
opportunities
for
our
citizens,
to
experience
the
arts
and,
more
importantly,
to
become
to
participate
in
the
arts
that
could
be
dancing
singing
playing
an
instrument
or
becoming
a
budding
thespian.
It
could
also
be
something
the
visual
arts.
The
whole
point
is
to
give
our
citizens
young
and
old.
The
opportunity
to
express
themselves
and
learn
to
create
everyone's
mind
is
on
budgets.
E
Right
now,
I
understand
that,
but
it's
not
just
the
city
of
Bloomington,
it's
everyone.
Even
our
businesses
are
concerned
about
these
changes
at
State
Farm
and
how
it's
going
to
impact
us.
Everyone's
cutting
back
or
increasing
fees
and
charges,
the
Friends
of
the
BC
PA,
have
been
working
tirelessly
with
the
city
staff,
not
for
days,
not
months
but
years,
yes
years
to
try
to
develop
a
program
designed
after
proven
models
like
our
local
Miller,
Park
Zoo.
These
partnerships
have
proven
to
be
very
successful
throughout
the
u.s..
E
This
arrangement
will
save
the
city
money
while
taking
care
of
a
property
that
has
set
dormant
for
years.
The
city
has
a
responsibility
to
take
care
of
this
property
and
we
are
willing
to
help.
We,
the
friends,
are
a
group
of
private
citizens,
volunteering,
our
time
and
talents,
to
support
a
city-owned
facility
that
desperately
needs
our
attention.
None
of
us
serving
on
the
Friends
group
have
any
personal
agendas.
This
does
not
benefit
us
directly
in
our
interest,
is
in
supporting
the
Arts
in
our
community
to
make
it
a
better
place
for
all.
E
There
are
those
that
will
say
we
shouldn't
be
putting
any
effort
or
money
into
this
I
say
it's
foolish,
yes,
I
believe
it's
foolish,
even
if
you
choose
not
to
participate
in
any
way
by
developing
your
own
creativity
or
going
to
a
play
or
a
concert.
The
quality
of
life
in
this
community,
the
crime
rate
in
our
community,
the
ability
to
communicate
with
your
neighbors
are
all
affected
by
the
arts.
There
have
been
so
many
times.
I
have
been
tempted
to
just
step
away
from
this
whole
thing
because
of
frustration
in
not
seeing
progress.
E
It
will
give
our
youth
and
those
that
need
creative
outlets,
the
means
to
learn
and
express
themselves
in
positive
ways.
They
will
be
less
likely
to
destroy.
We
miss
you
Tina
Salamone,
and
we
are
standing
by
our
commitment
to
get
this
job
done.
Thank
you
all
for
listening
to
me
this
evening
and
I
hope
that
you
will
vote
to
put
this
MOU
in
place
so
that
we
can
realize
the
potential
at
the
BCP,
a
creativity
center
and
the
positive
impact
it
will
have.
E
B
D
So
really
I
wanted
to
boil
down
to
what
actually
is
in
front
of
you.
Well
we're
asking
for
it's
nice
to
formalize
the
public-private
partnership.
That
is
all
we're
asking
for
the
development
manager
that
we'll
talk
about
in
a
little
bit
is
already
a
budgeted
position.
There's
no
new
tax
dollars
coming
with
this
agreement.
D
D
We're
really
here
to
talk
about
the
partnership
and
we're
asking
you
to
approve
the
partnership
so
that
the
Friends
group
can
go
out
and
recruit.
Fundraise
support
was
going
on
the
creativity,
Center
and
the
BCP
of
the
building,
so
that
is
truly
what
we're
asking
for
tonight
just
a
slight
background,
a
little
bit
of
a
timeline
of
the
different
votes
that
have
happened
over
the
recent
years
and
with
the
passing
of
tino
Salamone.
You
know
having
an
interim
performing
arts
manager,
then
the
vote
for
Veni
works.
D
That
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
this
position
has
been
vacant.
The
development
has
been
begging
for
so
long.
It
was
a
position.
I
was
budgeted
in
2014.
It
was
filled
for
about
four
months.
Then
that
person
followed
his
wife
to
a
job
on
the
coast
and
we
lost
that
position
when
Sina
Salamone
was
hired.
She
believed
that
she
could
do
from
an
arts
manager,
Development
Manager
together
and,
as
time
went
on,
we
learned
that
that
was
not
working.
D
So
that's
when
really
when
the
friends
conversations
with
me
being
director
really
started
to
to
grow
and
get
stronger,
so
I
wanted
to
show
those
those
few
timelines
there
and
and
there's
been
a
lot
confusion
about
the
development.
That's
that's!
What's
holding
this
all
up,
that's
what
the
issue
is.
The
issue
is
we
want
you
to
formalize
a
public/private
partnership
between
the
friends
and
the
city,
much
like
the
zoo
and
the
zoo
Society
have
built
over
you
over
the
years.
So
this
is
not
a
new
position.
This
has
been
budgeted
for
years.
D
They
will
work
under
the
performing
arts
manager.
They
work
under
Jim.
He
will
establish
the
Gulf's
this
person,
as
well
as
myself
and
Eric,
feel
to
make
sure
that
they
have
high
goals
to
reach
it's
an
Irish
in
those
goals.
We'll
look
to
find
someone
else,
so
those
are
the
big
things
I
wanted
to
hit.
I
didn't
want
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
up
here.
D
I
want
to
give
the
council
play
time
to
Gus,
does
talk
in
the
MOU
about
operational
support
and
it's
ramped
up
with
$20,000
being
in
the
first
fiscally
personal,
just
try
it
again
fiscal
year
2020,
so
that
they
have
ability
to
develop
those
relationships.
You
can't
just
go
and
somebody
you've
never
met
before
and
ask
them
for
money.
D
You've
got
to
build
that
it's
called
development
for
a
reason
you
have
to
develop
those
relationships,
so
they
can
fundraise
and
over
time,
as
you
can
see,
they
will
be
paying
into
the
city
into
the
BCP
a
operational
support
for
this.
It's
really
the
whole
building,
but
a
lot
of
times.
We
talk
about
it's
for
the
position
itself,
so
it
allows
them
the
time
to
develop
their
funding
and
their
revenue
coming
in.
So
they
can
pay
for
this
position
and
support
the
BCP
from
a
financial
standpoint,
in
addition
to
the
fundraising
piece.
B
D
F
You
I
would
like
to
say
that
I'm,
supportive
of
this
and
I
understand
that
this
has
been
a
long
time
coming.
I
agree
with
the
ramping
up
of
the
salary
for
whoever
gets
hired
for
this
position.
My
only
issue
is
that
our
biggest
problem,
right
now
with
our
structural
deficit,
is
pensions
and
benefits.
So
I
would
like
to
have
added
to
this
MOU
that,
after
they
hit
the
$100,000
threshold,
that
they
also
become
responsible
for
their
own
pension
and
benefit
payments
as
well.
D
One
of
the
things
we've
talked
about
earlier
is
once
we
get
to
that
$100,000
more
and
say
the
development
manager
should
leave.
We'll
have
this
conversation,
maybe
at
that
point
they
could
be
hired
as
as
a
non-profit
employee
of
the
Friends
of
the
BC
PA
right
now
they
don't
have
the
revenue
coming
in
to
pay
for
a
person.
That
is
right.
That's
the
reason
we're
keeping
it
at
the
way.
It's
always
been
I.
F
Understand
that,
but
you
know
to
get
parity
with
the
way
that
it
is
handled
with
the
Zoological
Society.
That's
the
way
that
it's
taken
care
of
there
and
I
would
hope
that
in
the
future,
that
would
be
what
we
could
do
here.
You
know
and
I
would
like
to
see
that
going
forward
with
a
lot
of
our
new
hires
as
well,
but
anyway,
that's
my
only
concern.
Okay.
B
B
F
H
H
So
I
think
that
there's
an
intention
there
and
so
what
you're
suggesting
is
that
that
gets
fleshed
out
right
and
and
make
it
very
clear
that
all
the
benefits
then
would
accrue
directly
to
the
friends.
Is
that
what
you're
saying
I'm
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
intention
is
of
the
MOU?
So
maybe
you
could
juror.
D
So,
what's
in
here
is
not
a
it's,
not
a
salary,
it
is
a
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
stating
that
very
clearly
it
is
it's
operational
support.
So
it's
twenty
thousand,
the
in
the
first
in
2020.
By
the
time
we
get
to
2024
it's
a
hundred
thousand
depending
on
the
person,
maybe
making
less
than
that
their
total
package
may
be
less
than
that.
It's
still
one
hundred
thousand
would
be
owed
to
the
city,
so
their
total
package
pension
benefits
everything
could
still
be
under
a
hundred
thousand.
I
D
J
I
And
and
appreciate
that
the
time
you've
good
meat
prior
to
this
meeting
to
talk
through
some
of
the
questions
I
had
and
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
was
this
term.
A
five-year
term
versus
a
three-year
term-
and
you
know
part
of
that
is-
is
just
the
the
idea
of
having
some
kind
of
collective
memory
from
the
council
as
we
go
forward
as
to
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish.
I
If
we
wait
five
years,
there's
a
potential
that
will
have
a
complete
turnover
on
our
Council
and
you
know,
which
could
potentially
be
a
turnover
of
philosophy
or
ideas.
So
if
we
have
a
touch
point,
that's
three
years
in
from
now,
for
instance,
we
know
when
we
have
one
election
and
and
they'll
see
some
people
remaining.
Did
that
make
sense
to
those
they're
sitting
so
I'm
wondering
if,
if
a
three-year
term,
not
showing
not
that
it
doesn't
show
confidence
in.
I
K
You
I
know:
I
won't
be
popular
here,
we're
looking
at
a
structural
deficit,
you
know
or
not.
Well
not
a
structural
deficit.
Steve's
done
yeoman
job
in
the
department
has
heads
up
done:
yeoman
Java.
In
terms
of
closing
that
we
have
roads
that
need
to
be
fixed,
we
have
a
pool
that
needs
to
be
replaced,
I
mean
where
do
we?
K
Where
do
we
draw
the
line
and
say
we
cannot
be
all
things
to
all
people
I,
like
the
arts,
I
like
coming
to
the
BC
PA
I
just
have
have
problems
with
the
idea
of
voting
to
approve
this
tonight.
I
actually
thought
we
were
going
to
have
more
time
to
talk
about
it.
Before
it
came
on
to
the
agenda.
I
didn't
realize
it
was
going
to
we're
going
to
talk
about
it
and
vote
on
it
tonight.
K
K
Continue
with
this
I
mean
I,
don't
I
I
would
like
to
see
us
talk
about
some
I,
some
way
of
giving
the
creativity
Center
to
the
friends
some
way
of
perhaps
helping
with
a
fundraiser
Joe
till
they
get
on
their
feet,
but
I
I
can't
support
another
person
and
additional
potentially
additional
capital
money
to
be
invested
in
this.
At
this
time.
All.
L
L
L
Okay,
well,
let's
get
back
to
some
to
something
else
and
try
to
get
back
on
in
general
and
I'm.
Gonna
go
off-topic
a
little
bit,
but
just
for
informational
purposes
can
I
like
to
like
to
make
sure
that
when
our
departments
do
good
work,
it
is
recognized.
What
is
the
Parks
and
Rec
Department
overall
cost
recovery
percentage
about.
D
L
So
you
do
a
phenomenal
job
at
cost
recovery
and
as
far
as
I
can
see,
this
is
a
continuation
of
that
effort
that
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
possible
private
money
and
private
donors
step
in
to
assist
us
in
our
mission
as
we
try
to
keep
our
community
a
wonderful
place
to
live
work
and
play
so
generally
in
philosophy.
I
think
that
this
this
agreement
fits
so
many
of
the
things
we
as
a
city
want
to
accomplish.
L
We
want
to
where
possible,
do
cost
recovery
and
you've
done
an
excellent
job
of
doing
that,
and
this
will
allow
us
to
continue
in
that,
because
we
will
have
a
development
director
whose
job
will
be
to
do
that
which
is
again
an
already
budgeted
position.
So
it
concerns
me
slightly
and
I
understand
the
desire
to
show
that
we
are
making
progress
but
underfunding.
L
Community
assets
is
not
to
our
benefit.
It
does
not
make
the
community
better.
It
does
not
allow
us
to
bring
in
new
residents.
It
does
not
allow
us
to
bring
in
new
job
feel.
So,
unfortunately,
the
BC
PA
has
been
underfunded
for
a
while
and
I
think
it
is
missing
out
on
opportunities
because
it
hasn't
reached
its
fullest
potential.
Although
I
continue.
L
But
what
concerns
me
about
the
conversation
this
evening
is
that
we
have
individuals
too,
who
are
supportive
of
this
philosophically,
but
we're
getting
a
little
bit
bogged
down
in
the
details
and
looking
at
the
specific
language
and
it's
going
to
always
be
a
challenge
for
a
document
of
this
kind.
We
want
it
to
be
very
specific,
so
we
understand
exactly
what
we're
going
to
get
at
the
same
time.
H
Thank
you
I
appreciate
the
phrase,
collective
memory,
because
I
think
that's
exactly
what
the
failure
is.
Now
we
started
out
with
a
cultural
district
that
was
a
hundred
percent
supported
with
a
quarter
penny
sales
tax,
that's
been
chipped
away
and
chipped
away
and
chipped
away
over
the
years
and-
and
you
know,
consequently,
we
started
with
a
vision
that
had
the
funding
for
it
and
now
we're
at
a
point
where
we
really
need
to
rely
on
that
public-private
partnership.
H
I
am
NOT,
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying
about
three
years
versus
five
years,
but
I
actually
would
like
to
see.
You
know
just
it
all
coming
back
to
us
about
where
we
are
with
us.
I'm
very
supportive
of
this
I
think
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
our
collective
memory
in
general
about
a
lot
of
different
agreements
that
we
make
and-
and
we
sometimes
fail
at
that,
we
have
already
seen
the
value
of
doing
private
fundraising.
We
have
close
to
a
million
dollars
already
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
in
my
opinion.
H
This
is
a
promise
that
we've
made
for
a
partnership
that
has
a
very
good
model
in
the
Zoological
Society
and
we've
already
seen
it
in
action
with
Graham
coucher
before
he
left
so
I.
Think
all
the
pieces
are
there
for
this
to
succeed.
I,
don't
think
that
it's
optional
I
appreciate
what
Vicki
Tilton
was
saying
and
reminding
us
about
the
value
of
the
creativity
center
and
the
importance
of
creating
in
our
community
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
core
part
of
who
we
are
as
a
community.
H
M
M
M
D
The
spirit
we'll
be
in
there,
but
we're
really
focusing
on
more
of
the
recreation
and
the
parks
like
the
individual
parks.
I'd,
like
the
zoo,
we'll
only
have
a
small
bit
of
this
golf
is
more
of
a
land
management
piece,
it's
more
about
our
parks
and
facilities.
Honestly,
the
amenities
like
the
PGP
or
the
zoo,
gotcha.
M
All
right,
well
just
so
you
know
where
I'm
at
on
this
I'm
very
supportive
and
if
it
comes
back
with
an
annual
or
three-year
I,
don't
really
have
an
opinion
about
that.
I
do
think.
We
have
to
be
more
strategic
in
how
we
move
some
of
our
pieces
on
the
chessboard
when
it
comes
to
Parks
and
Rec
and
Lincoln
leisure
center
comes
to
mind
is
potentially
one
maybe
way
to
invest
ourselves.
Is
that
one?
M
Alderman
painters
remarks
got
me
thinking
about
how
how
can
we
do
part
of
that,
like
back-end
city
cost
as
part
of
an
agreement?
Is
this
something
that
you
think
might
hinder
or
help,
or
would
you
need
to
look
back
and
do
some
more
research
on
maybe
their
development
component
like
if
they
hit
a
certain
number
that
it's
going
to
be
more
difficult
to
raise
money,
because
now,
some
that
trigger
is
a
component
where
it
doesn't
actually
go
to
the
organization
per
se?
D
You
know,
because
they'd
already
be
giving
a
hundred
thousand,
which
probably
is
going
to
be
more
than
they're,
come
to
in
banks,
if
it's,
if
it's,
if
their
costs
and
benefit
packages.
Above
that,
then
they
have
to
pay
the
difference,
and
obviously
this
would
have
to
be.
The
Friends
group
would
have
to
agree
to
this,
since
it's
a
partnership
right
right.
G
M
Sure,
like
that,
because
I
don't
want
to
overcomplicate
this
and
trying
macro
manage
the
person
through
policy,
I
mean
that
I
think
at
a
high
level.
You
know
my
role
in
this
situation.
From
my
perspective
is
just
do
we
support
this
and
I
would
say
that
I
do
and
detailing
out
some
of
the
specifics.
I'm
not
really
interested
in
doing,
but
it
does
raise
a
interesting
question
and.
B
H
B
Clarifying
just
want
to
clarify
that,
because
I
at
least
my
experience
has
been
as
mayors
any
time
we've
asked
the
cultural
district
or
anybody
from
the
BC
PA
for
information
or
to
come
to
the
council
meeting.
We've
never
had
any
issues
with
them
coming
and
wanting
to
make
their
case.
So,
let's
see
all
of
Anila
want
boy.
Thank.
G
G
G
D
D
N
One
thing
I
just
wanted
to
add,
though,
is
we
currently
have
a
list
of
performing
groups
and
nonprofits
in
and
of
themselves
and
individuals
who
already
have
expressed
interest
that
they
want
to
rent
space
in
the
facility
once
we
get
through
this
process
of
making
sure
it's
safe
and
up
to
par
and
ready
to
go
for
everybody,
we
have
a
list
of
people
who
are
ready
and
willing
to
step
in
and
so
for
future
operational
costs.
You
know
once
we
get
through
this
capital,
part
of
it.
N
Those
groups
are
have
aa,
ready-made
verbal
commitments
to
to
us
and
to
the
friends
that
they're
willing
to
step
in
and
pay
rent
in
those
areas
to
help
cover.
You
know
that
janitorial
costs
and
things
of
that
nature,
as
well,
so
without
restating
everything
else.
Variants
I'm
very
supportive
of
this
I,
just
want
to
make
sure
we
we
about
that.
There
is
a
vision
for
how
this
building
operates
after
we
get
through
the
capital
campaign.
N
B
You-
and
it
was
hinted
at
a
couple
times,
but
I
do
want
to
make
clear
that
there
are
always
four
major
projects.
Economic
development
benefits
over
and
above
any
kind
of
cultural
and
I
think
Viki
did
an
outstanding
job
of
talking
about
some
of
the
social
benefits
of
the
community.
But
the
arts
are
a
big
business
too.
I
Relate
to
our
philosophy,
and
of
course,
when
we
talk
about
honing
in
our
philosophy,
then
it
does
find
itself
distilled
into
the
language
of
the
contract.
So
I
don't
think
we're
nitpicking
when
we
asked
important
questions
to
figure
out
what
our
term
is
or
whether
or
not
we'll
continue
to
hire
someone
or
whether
or
not
they'll
become
an
employee
of
the
501
C.
So
with
that
said,
I
have
a
question
about
Roman
numeral
number,
ten
termination
and
the
intention
there
about
termination
and
I'm.
I
Looking
at
the
provision
about
any
funds
raised
for
BC
PA
facilities
shall
be
turned
over
to
city
parks,
recreation
and
culture.
Arts
department
is
the
intention
of
this
provision
that
the
accounts
will
all
be
turned
over
or
where
there
will
there
be
a
parsing
of
amounts
that
things
that
were
simply
for
facilities
are
turned
over
and
some
other
amounts
retained
just
just
asking
what
the
intention
is.
Is
there.
D
I
So
then,
if
we
look
at
then
Roman
numeral
number
ten,
the
termination
I'm
thinking,
maybe
just
for
clarity,
to
make
sure
that
the
words
match
are
everyone's
intentions,
that
maybe
we
just
say
that
those
accounts
are
turned
over
and
that
way
there's
never
a
dispute
about
what
somebody
wrote
their
check
for
right.
If
it
went
in
the
account,
then
it
gets
turned
over.
If
that's
the
intention,
that
would
be
thought
about,
possibly
an
amendment
just
to
make
sure
everybody
understands
what
our
philosophy
is
and
what
we
intend
here.
B
And
just
in
terms
of
a
couple
people
I
mentioned
priority-based
budgeting
in
in
terms
of
our
priorities.
Clearly,
9-1-1
service,
Public,
Safety
police,
our
streets
infrastructure,
economic
development-
are
important.
This
is
I,
think
a
subset
of
economic
development,
but
this
is
a
public-private
partnership
and
the
amount
of
money
that
we
allocate
as
all
the
one
Debray
had.
Excuse
me
not
all
along
right.
All,
along
in
Burgas,
had
revealed
and
asking
you
the
question:
if
the
average
parts,
the
right
department
gets
twenty
nine
percent
and
we
get
sixty
percent
back
we're
doing
a
darn
good
job.
B
B
We
fund
those
things
here,
we're
looking
for
a
broader
range
of
things,
so
there
are
some
things
that
we
know
we
find
that
we
know
we
fund
completely
and
there
are
some
things
that
we
know
that
we
are
going
to
be
partners
in
because
they're
not
as
high
a
priority
in
our
budgetary
process
at
at
a
time
of
a
budgetary
crunch.
Now
there
may
be
a
time
where
we
need
friends
of
the
sewers,
but
we're
not
quite
there
yet
anyway.
H
I
It's
just
you
know
we
don't
need
an
argument
about.
You
know
I,
don't
think
either
side
once
argue
about
how
much
of
those
funds
are
properly
part
of
the
BCA
B
CPA
facilities
as
defined
and
we've
defined
that
facilities,
as
not
only
the
creativity
center,
but
also
the
BC
PA
and
the
Lincoln
Park,
which
is
the
grassy
area
inside.
G
I
Again,
what
goes
in
that
fund
is
supposed
to
be
everything
that
people
have
donated
for
this
particular
project
right.
So
just
just
later,
we
don't
have
disagreements
about
how
much
is
left
back
for
some
other
purpose.
Everything
that's
in
that
account
gets
turned
over.
It
just
seems
to
me
to
be
a
cleaner
way
to
express
it.
Perhaps
I.
H
I
Would
not
because
the
donors
intent
them
would
be
carried
out
if
they
gave
money
for
the
bcat
facilities
and
its
operations
and
the
he
would
then
go
into
that
501
C
account
and
then
the
whole
account
is
turned
over
to
the
city.
Should
this
terminate
and
there's
no
debate
about
whether
or
not
the
that
donors
money
would
go
over
to
the
zoo
or
something
because
the
money
has
already
been
earmarked
for
the
BC
ta
facilities
right?
So
it's
not
it
just
it's
cleaner,
but
in
my
view
it's
a
cleaner
way
to
express
that
provision.
I'm.
B
O
I,
the
only
thing
I
think
I
would
add
to
that
is
and
I
think
I
also
understand
where
all
the
run
Brae
is
coming
from
is
again
just
to
clarify
that
essentially
any
monies
that
go
in
here.
There's
no
question
at
the
end
of
the
day
that
those
are
monies
that
are
coming
over
to
the
city
and
that
are
not
going
to
some
other
organization
or
some
other
event,
or
something
like
that.
O
So
perhaps
a
little
bit
of
a
tweaking
of
the
language,
maybe
BC
PA
facilities
is
to
you
know
constrictive
there
or
something
like
that.
If
there
was
some
other
type
of
a
fundraising
or
whatever
that
we
could
go
back,
and
we
could
look
at
at
that
and
again
I'm,
not
sure
what
what
the
precise
intent
was.
I
was
involved
in
the
drafting
of
this,
but
that's
something
we
could
certainly
go
back
and
discuss.
I
N
So
I
understand
Kim
I,
understand
where
you're
going
or
you're
coming
from
with
this,
my
only
thing
is
I
just
would
say:
we
need
to
be
very
careful
that
we
don't
jeopardize
the
organization's
501
C
3
status
by
placing
encumbrances
on
them.
You
know
we.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
they
can
still
make
stay
as
an
independent
organization
and
maintain
that
nonprofit
and
importantly
tax-deductible
status,
and
so
there's
a
balance
that
we
have
to
strike
there.
N
B
Okay.
Thank
you
all
right.
Okay,
at
this
point,
thank
you
very
much
Jay
and
thank
you
very
much
Council
and
thank
you
mr.
Rasmussen.
At
this
point
we're
going
to
move
on
to
a
presentation
on
the
Community
Development
rental
inspection
program.
We
have
approximately
ten
minutes
in
approximately
a
twenty
minute
council
discussion
and
Mayor.
J
If
I
could
introduce
this
just
buy
it,
please
making
two
notes
to
it.
One
I
did
want
to
thank
John
CAPA
dice
from
the
property
maintenance
review
board
for
being
in
attendance,
because
they've
offered
their
good
offices
for
anything.
They
may
be
able
to
help
in
this,
and
secondly,
as
Bob
mark
goes
into
the
renal
inspection
program.
J
P
The
rental
property
inspection
program
is
outlined
within
our
chapter
45
of
the
Municipal
Code
and
within
the
purpose
of
the
rental
property
inspection
program
is
to
maintain
the
city's
rental
housing
stock
by
enforcement
of
property,
maintenance,
life
safety
and
health
codes
applicable
codes
through
periodic
building
inspections
and
annual
registration,
I.
Think
from
a
staff
standpoint.
We
see
that,
as
our
working
definition
is
to
ensure
clean,
safe
and
decent
rental
housing
for
all
residents
within
the
community.
P
Just
a
quick
program
overview.
The
rental
inspection
program
was
adopted
in
2003.
It
applies
to
non-owner,
occupied
rental
apartments,
duplexes,
condominiums
and
single-family
dwellings.
There
are
approximately
12,000
residential
rental
rental
units.
Within
the
program
there
was
some
discussion
as
to
the
standards
that
the
city
applies
or
city
staff
applies
towards
that
we
do
follow
the
2012
International
Code,
Council
property
maintenance
code,
it's
recognized
throughout
the
United
States
and
internationally.
P
The
development
community
is
well
aware
of
these
codes
as
our
the
judges
that
you
might
have
to
take
an
enforcement
effort
up
to
as
well,
so
that
we
do
have
a
standard
in
place
that
our
code
enforcement
officers
are
responsible
for.
The
program
currently
includes
two
rental
inspectors
assigned
to
the
program.
The
intent
of
the
intent
is
to
achieve
a
three
year
cycle
for
on-site
inspections
and
we're
pretty
close
to
that
intent.
P
P
Kind
of
going
through
the
process-
this
is
kind
of
a
slide.
You
got
to
kind
of
look
through
as
we
go
through
it,
but
basically
the
rental
property
owner
does
have
to
submit
the
end
participate
in
the
annual
registration
within
the
program.
So
then
we
would
conduct
a
periodic
inspection
of
the
property
and
I
guess
I
kind
of
need
to
explain
the
process
that
we're
going
through
there.
P
So
when
we,
when
the
rental
property
comes
up
in
the
queue
for
inspection,
the
inspector
needs
to
notify
the
property
owner
that
the
inspection
is
pending
and
the
property
owner
then
has
to
have
tenant
releases
and
the
property
owner
releases.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
lag
between
the
notification
and
inspection
is,
is
necessary
and
the
time
that
an
act
and
inspection
is
actually
scheduled.
So
after
the
inspection
you
either
receive
this
program
is
a
pass/fail.
It
used
to
be
on
rating
system
as
I
understand
it,
but
now
we're
on
a
pass/fail
system.
P
So
if
you
pass,
you
immediately
get
your
certificate
of
inspection
you're
on
your
way
and
you're
able
to
maintain
your
rental
property
until
the
next
inspection.
But
if
you
fail
the
inspection,
you
will
receive
a
Notice
of
Violation
letter.
It's
a
very
thorough
letter
outlining
all
the
code
violations
that
are
attributed
to
the
dwelling
unit
that
could
range
anywhere
from
of
a
smoke
detector
to
a
broken
cabinet
door
event
in
the
in
the
bathroom.
So
those
are
just
kind
of
the
range
that
you
might
see
in
a
residential
unit
after
the
notice
of
inspection.
P
What
you'll
see
there
is
that
we're
we're
defining
like
a
time
line
for
compliance,
so
typically
you're
going
to
get
a
1
month
for
your
re-inspection
to
complete
all
those
items
that
are
listed
within
the
letter.
When
we
come
back
for
the
Rhian
spec
ssin,
the
intent
is
that
we're
just
going
to
come
in
and
check
off
everything.
That's
been
done
a
lot
of
times
that
does
not
occur,
but
if
the
in
the
program
is
set
up
that
we're
working
towards
compliance
with
our
residential
rental
property
owners,
that's
been.
P
P
The
intent
is
once
we
go
through
the
Administrative,
Court
and
Jeff
will
kind
of
explain
the
process.
That's
associated
with
the
Administrative
Court
we're
going
to
be
doing
periodic,
Rhian,
spec
shion's
to
verify
compliance
with
the
court,
the
courts
orders
you
shall
have
a
timeline
for
compliance.
Let's
move
forward
on
on
hitting
these
major
items
will
come
back
in
will
send
that
inspector
out
again
to
see
that
they're
working
towards
compliance,
the
majority
of
the
time
they
are
working.
P
These
property
owners
are
working
towards
compliance,
they'll,
go
right
to
the
past
past
mode
and
then
we're
into
the
certificate
of
register
on
their
way
again.
But
for
whatever
reason,
if
they
can't
seem
to
get
out
of
that
complete
the
task,
then
they
are
stuck
in
in
the
Administrative
Court
and
then
we
can
take
it
up
to
the
next
level
and
that's
something
that
Jeff
will
kind
of
explain
to
you
all.
I
think.
P
So
that's
one
thing
that
you
should
be
aware
of
about
how
we're
trying
to
work
towards
compliance
on
these
on
these
issues
with
the
landlords
so
I'd
like
to
probably
just
go
through
a
simple
if
I
can
slow
my
finger
down
just
kind
of
this
is
a
this
is
an
example
of
what
I
tried
to
capture
one
picture
that
might
show
two
or
three
different
different
items.
I'm
told
that
this
would
be
generally
a
see
kind
of
an
average
rental
it.
P
What
you're
seeing
here
is
behind
the
TV
when
the
when
the
desk
was
moved,
you'd
have
a
broken
out
wall,
that's
under
the
property
maintenance,
Code
section
305
three,
that's
that
would
require
the
landlord
to
repair
that
failing
drywall
and
the
paint
what
you'll
see
down
below
that
is
a
faceplate
on
an
electrical
outlet
that
is
under
property.
The
property
maintenance
code
605
electrical,
so
that
would
require
a
new
faceplate
to
be
installed.
P
You'll
see
on
the
the
heater
system
there,
there
are
some
damaged
fins
that
limit
its
ability
to
function
properly
and
also
that
the
cover
would
be
off
of
that
that
heating
source
there,
the
radiant
heat
and
then
in
the
corner,
you'll
see
an
accumulation
of
mold
and
that's
a
property
maintenance
code
violation
under
305
3
for
interior
spaces,
so
that
property
that
Landler
would
be
responsible
for
remediating
that.
So,
when
you
look
at
a
picture
like
this,
it
looks
overwhelming
it
looks
bad.
It
is
repairable
and
this
may
or
may
not.
P
This
is
not
something
that
staff
would
say
we
want
to
displace
the
pride
of
the
tenant
for
something
that
can
be
addressed
in
a
short
order.
I
would
say
that
the
landlord
is
responsible
for
some
of
these
items
and
the
tenant
is
responsible
for
some
of
these
items.
I,
don't
think
the
landlord
would
typically
cause
damage
to
their
own
property
and
not
address
that.
That
might
be
something
that
somebody
got
a
little
rambunctious
in
a
room
or
whatever
that
might
be,
but
nonetheless
it's
something
that
has
to
be
repaired.
P
But
in
this
case
we
would
not
ask
for
the
property
for
the
tenant
to
be
displaced,
so
this
is
kind
of
some
examples
of
what
staff
routinely
addresses
in
their
property,
rental
inspections
and
again
we
do
use
the
international
property
maintenance
code,
as
our
standard
for
enforcement
and
I
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Questions
mr.
mark
Oh.
O
B
O
Yeah
just
to
touch
briefly
on
the
Administrative
Court
process
and
that
set
it
up
by
the
deputy
corporation
counsel,
angela
phi,
and
she
was
not
able
to
be
here
tonight.
So
unfortunately,
you
have
me
in
her
stead,
but
she
wanted
me
to
kind
of
echo.
Some
of
the
things
that
director
mark
talked
about
in
terms
of
our
goal
has
been
compliance,
and
you
know
perhaps
people
have
said.
Maybe
that's
been
overly.
You
know
we've
overly
focused
on
that.
At
the
beginning
of
this
year
we
actually
started
implementing
more
court
costs.
O
It
used
to
be
well,
it
still
is
before
you
get
to
administrative
court.
You've
had
a
couple
of
different
times
through
the
inspectors
to
get
issues
like
that
rectified.
So
if
they
have
not,
you
know
if
they've
had
ample
opportunity
to
get
that
fixed,
they
haven't,
got
it
fixed.
Then
the
inspectors
going
to
refer
over
to
Administrative
Court.
It
used
to
be
that
as
long
as
they
would
still
get
that
fixed
once
it
was
to
administrative
court,
we
would
not
even
charge
in
the
administrative
court
cost.
We
have
stopped
that
proc
practice.
O
As
of
the
first
of
the
year.
We
implemented
the
fact
that
if
we
get
to
the
point
of
us
having
to
create
a
file,
us
having
to
you,
know,
pay
a
hearing
officer
because
you
had
opportunity
to
fix
it
and
you
did
not.
We
are
going
to
charge
you
court
costs,
so
we
have
started
that
process
and
that's
$110
per
each
case.
The
next
question
becomes
okay.
O
Well,
they
have
you
know
you
saw
maybe
four
or
five
violations
up
there
and
they're
taking
time
to
kind
of
get
some
of
those
remedies
and
maybe
they've
they've
wrapped.
You
know
racked
up
hundreds
or
a
thousands
of
dollars
in
potential
fines,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
they
get
those
remedies
and
fix.
Are
we
going
to
find
them,
or
are
we
just
really
working
towards
compliance
here?
We
have
looked
at
and
we've
started
talking
about
some
some
different
options,
maybe
amending
our
ordinance
on
chronic
offenders.
O
So
if
there's
somebody,
that's
got
more
than
one
violation
within
the
12-month
period
at
a
property.
Maybe
we
won't
just
waive
all
of
those
fees.
Maybe
there
needs
to
be
a
little
bit
more
discretion.
So
if
you've
got
so
many
violations-
and
you
know
you're
really
taking
too
much
time
that
you
know-
maybe
we're
not
going
to
try
and
charge
you
$15,000,
but
maybe
we're
going
to
charge
you
$1,000.
So
there
are
some.
O
There
is
some
movement
we
can
make
within
the
administrative
court
to
perhaps
you
know,
start
imposing
a
few
more
fines
and
that's
something
that
we
can
explore
and
like
I
said,
we've
talked
about
different
ways
to
do
that
and
we
can
bring
back
in
warden
ins
to
that
effect
and
and
maybe
start
doing
some
of
those
even
without
an
ordinance
in
effect.
But
one
of
I
think
the
policy
questions
that
we
want
to
talk
to
the
council
about
is
what
is
your
appetite
and
you
know
again.
O
B
O
That
are
not
getting
the
the
the
remedies
and
time
or
their
they're
really
dragging
things
out.
Multiple
court
appearances,
those
types
of
things.
We
think
that
you
know,
perhaps
if
some
of
these
property
owners
start
seeing
that
you
know
the
fines
aren't
going
to
go
away
at
the
end
of
the
day
that
there
might
be
some
financial
consequence,
maybe
that
will
help
increase
compliance.
O
They
know
that
there's
a
drop-dead
date
that
they
have
to
have
these
repairs
fixed
and
if
they
don't,
then
there's
going
to
be
fines
and
additional
fines
that
they're
gonna
have
to
pay.
We've
never
looked
at
this
as
a
moneymaker.
We've
really
looked
at
this
as
a
program
to
try
and
clean
up
the
properties,
get
everybody
in
compliance
and
again.
So
that's
why
you
know
we're
here
to
kind
of
continue
some
of
these
discussions
and
see
what
the
thoughts
of
the
council
are.
All.
L
L
Anecdotally.
I
can
tell
you
that
after
we
added
another
inspector,
things
have
gotten
substantially
better.
At
least
in
my
ward,
I
see
properties
being
fixed
up,
I,
see,
I,
see
the
evidence
of
that
code
enforcement
happening
so
where
we
went
into
the
issues
then
and
I
think.
This
is
why
this
presentation
to
me
has
been
very,
very
helpful
in
looking
at
this
information
so
that
any
action
we
take
can
be
very
targeted
because
and
I
think
that
mr.
mark
mentioned
this.
L
The
vast
majority
of
our
landlords
really
do
want
to
comply
and
when
these
issues
are
brought
to
their
attention,
that's
what
they
do
and
we
don't
hear
about
them
because
they
fix
the
issue
and
we
move
on.
But
the
real
problem
we're
running
into
is.
We
now
have
some
smaller
number,
a
minority
of
landlords
who
are
non-compliant
and
they're
chronically
non-compliant
and
they're
I.
Think
as
a
city,
our
patients
needs
to
run
very
thin
and
cannot
be
infinite
because
we
have
people.
L
We
have
individuals
in
our
community
who
are
living
in
substandard
conditions
and
that's
just
not
acceptable,
and
so
I
would
personally
suggest
that
when
it
comes
to
those
chronic
non
compliant
offenders,
it's
it's
probably
time
at
this
point
in
time
to
say
we
need
to
be
increasing
those
fines
over
time,
because
there's
been
enough
time
now
to
see
how
the
additional
inspections
have
worked
out.
There's
been
enough
time
to
see
what
does
and
doesn't
work
in
the
Administrative
Court
and
we
haven't
gone
to
that
full
compliance.
L
So,
but
thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you
to
Jeff
and
your
department
for
the
administrative
court.
That's
been
a
really
useful
tool
in
the
city
and
Bob.
Thank
you,
because
your
inspectors
do
an
incredible
job
and
are
very
thorough
and
conscientious
and
care
a
great
deal
about
making
sure
our
residents
have
safe
property.
All.
Q
Q
I'm,
asking
camellia
makes
good
points
right,
I
mean
I,
think
there's
we
ought
to
incentivize
good
landlords
right
in
in
in
deal
fairly
directly
with
with
those
chronically
you
know,
habitual
offenders
right
and
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
good
and
Bob
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
as
we
as
we
revisit
and
update
the
program.
We're
not
talking
about
adding
additional
staffing
at
this
time.
Right
that.
Q
Okay
and
did
I
understand
because
we
heard
some
some
remarks
during
public
comment
about
the
approach
that
we
take
now
is
a
kind
of
a
a
scheduled
three
year.
You
know
a
try
annual
inspection
every
three
years,
but
there
still
appears
to
be
some
some
sense
that
that
property
owners,
landlords
think
that
you
know
once
they
passed.
They
really
don't
need
to
be
inspected
again
until
there's
a
complaint
lied.
Q
So
you
know
it
sounds
like
maybe
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
communication
gap
there
I
don't
know,
but
but
but
perhaps
on
a
little
larger,
a
little
higher
level.
Do
we
have
some
kind
of
process
in
place
and
I'm
and
I'm
sure
we
do,
whether
it's
it's
probably
informal
or
maybe
formal-
that
we
make
sure
that
that
the
landlords
feel
like
they're
being
heard
by
city
staff.
Q
P
The
property
maintenance,
Review
Board,
had
been
in
place
for
many
years,
and
some
of
their
role
had
slightly
changed
upon
the
adoption
of
the
administrative
hearing
court,
but
their
their
primary
role
is
to
hear
appeals
of
administrative
decisions
of
the
staff.
So
if
we
misinterpret
the
code,
their
primary
role
is
to
make
that
interpretation
for
the
staff
members
and
that's
something
that
would
still
be
supported
through
our
legal
department.
But
we've
had
trying
to
maintain
a
standard
of
quarterly
meetings.
We
just
keep
missing
this
opportunity
to
get
a
quorum.
P
Q
H
First
of
all,
I
want
to
share
as
well
that
I've
heard
many
good
things
about
the
rental
inspectors
in
the
way
that
they
approach
the
work
and
very
professional
and
lots
of
good
detail
and
also
appreciate
on
alderman
burgesses
summary
of
this.
That's
pretty
much
where
I
am
on
this
one
question
that
I
have
just
to
line
up
the
concept
that
we
would
really
be
more
aggressive
than
the
Administrative
Court.
H
O
That
in
a
couple,
different
ways
and
then
I'll
give
you
an
opportunity
to
answer
that,
because
I
asked
Angela
this
afternoon.
If
you
know,
were
we
aggressive
enough?
Would
there
have
been
something
you
would
have
done
different?
And
she
said
you
know
when
this
was
brought
to
her.
She
recommended
a
couple
of
different
courses
of
action,
one
they
actually
filed
a
demolition
case
in
demolition
case
in
Circuit
Court,
because
of
the
how
bad
the
rental
was,
and
then
she
recommended
also
a
case
be
filed
as
an
Administrative
Court.
O
So
we
actually
pursued
this
in
you
know
from
the
city
and
two
different
avenues
and
the
the
demolition
case
is
still
pending.
That's
that
was
filed
in
December
and
I
think
there
may
be
a
case
management
in
June
or
something
like
that.
The
administrative
court
case
was
filed
in
January
and-
and
you
know
heard
in
in
February
so
and
of
course
there
were
a
number
of
violations
that
were
cited
and
other
things.
So
you
know
from
the
standpoint
of
you
know,
as
I
think
you
know,
Bob
talked
a
little
bit
about
earlier.
O
You
know
if
it's
just
say
a
face,
play
not
electrical
outlet
or
something
like
that.
Obviously
those
types
of
issues
are
not
as
concerning
as
when
you
to
the
health
and
safety
issues
and
I,
don't
want
to
speak
for
Bob,
but
but
obviously
I
think
his
department.
Legal
department
certainly
takes
those
issues
very
seriously.
I've
been
involved
in
situations,
you
know
where
we
have
had
health
and
safety
issues
where
we've
you
know
closed
people
down
and
that
type
of
thing
and
and
so
it's
it's
just
kind
of
a
different
atmosphere.
But
oh
and
you
I.
P
Might
just
add
that
you
know
we
talked
about
this
three-year
cycle
and
before
it
was
a
wider
cycle
of
life,
but
if,
if
we
are
receiving
a
number
of
complaints
specific
to
a
property,
there's
a
provision
in
our
code
that
it
allows
the
director
to
initiate
a
rien
spec
ssin
of
that
property,
regardless
of
this
three-year
intent.
So
we
would
move
that
up
on
the
schedule
to
address
those
issues
that
we're
getting
those
complaints
in
relationship
to
this
apartment.
On
Gettysburg
we
did
not
receive.
P
We
were
not
receiving
a
plethora
of
of
complaints,
specifically
related
to
that
within
the
last
year,
so
that
wouldn't
have
rose
to
the
thing.
It
was
just
in
this
regular
cycle
of
inspections
and
again
you're
talking
about
a
12
Plex.
There
is
a
large
number
of
violations
there,
but
we're
talking
about
its
well
were
unit
dwelling
and.
H
P
M
M
So
everything
that
I've
heard
so
far
I
agree
with,
but
I
kind
of
want
to
dig
him
just
a
little
bit
deeper
on
a
point
here,
and
maybe
this
is
where
we
engage.
The
property
mate
is
review,
board
and
I.
Think
a
lot
of
the
challenge
that
I'm
hearing
in
Ward
7,
at
least
it's
the
same
properties,
the
same
property
owners
that
I
am
I,
continue
to
hear
and
it's
the
question
is:
why
won't
you
do
anything?
M
And
you
know
this
isn't
talking
a
loose
cabinet
or
we're
not
talking
about
you
know
a
baseplate
off
of
an
electrical
outlet.
I
mean
it's
stuff
like
this
or
worse,
and
I
know
that
one
of
the
challenges
that
we
face
and
glt
to
this
story
about
it
is,
is
affordable,
housing
and
then
tenants
who
are
either
afraid
because
they
don't
want
retribution
from
their
landlord
or
they
have
nowhere
to
go,
and
perhaps
a
task
for
the
property
mutants
will
be.
M
What
are
some
options
for
some
of
these
tenants
and
situation
in
which
we
have
to
go
in
there
because
of
the
Life
Safety
and
shut
them
down,
because
I
think
it
there's.
No
words:
it's
not
computing
to
me
that
eight
hundred
and
some-odd
violations
is
somehow
not
you're
done,
but
then
you
have
to
deal
with
the
reality
of
moving
30
folks
out
of
there
and
finding
housing
for
them
that
their
kids
can
get
the
school
they
can
get
to
school,
etc.
So
at
least
a
takeaway
from
me
that
I
think
could
be
interested.
P
O
You
know
we
already
have
a
draft
of
the
chronic
offender
language
that
we're
looking
at
adding
to
the
code,
so
I
mean
that
might
be
something
that
we
work
with
Community
Development,
maybe
we
get
you
know
in
front
of
this
board,
have
some
of
those
conversations.
You
know
it
goes
beyond
just
kind
of
the
penalties
as
you're
talking
about
but
I.
Certainly
from
my
perspective,
I,
don't
think
the
legal
department
have
any
issue,
obviously
working
with
that
board
and
getting
some
of
their
input
and
feedback
before
we
bring
back
another
proposal
to
the
council.
Maybe.
M
It's
as
easy,
as
you
know,
showing
pictures
of
some
of
these
failed
properties
that
are
continual
habitual
offenders
and
we
just
put
them
up
before
before
public
meeting
and,
let's
let
people
know
what's
going
on
because
there
seems
to
be
we're
shining
a
light
in
it
because
something
has
happened.
But
this
issue
has
been
going
on
for
many
years
and.
G
P
G
B
All
right,
okay,
thank
you.
Both
very
much
appreciate
it.
Okay,
at
this
point,
we
move
on
to
our
last
discussion
item
of
the
evening
and
special
session
and
that
it's
discussion
and
direction
on
by
a
charg
of
us
a
regarding
next
steps
for
the
recruitment
of
the
permit
city
manager.
We
have
a
presentation
by
Nicole
Albertson
for
a
few
minutes
and
then
council
discussion.
Thank.
S
You
good
to
see
you
all
again,
hello,
so
for
I
got
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
most
of
you
today.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
if
I
did
not
I'm
still
happy
to
do
that
either
over
the
phone
or
an
email
with
the
questionnaire.
But
again,
thank
you
for
your
time
today
and
what
is
being
passed
out
is
a
copy
of
the
recruitment
schedule.
Yeah
one
more
copy,
I,
don't
have
my
copy,
so
this
is
proposed
and
what
I
discussed
with
you
today
is
worked
into
this
schedule.
So
this
would
have.
This.
S
Has
all
the
milestones
for
the
recruitment
and
I
wanted
to
get
your
feedback,
and
we
don't
have
to
decide
on
actual
days
today
or
anything
like
that,
but
this
is
more
about
here's
the
process
and
what
you
would
like
to
see
in
the
process
and
then
I
can
work
with
Nicole
and
get
information
back
to
you
and
get
it
finalized.
So
obviously,
today
I
was
here
meeting
with
all
of
you
and
talking
about
the
process.
I
will
go
back
to
my
office.
S
I
will
write
up
a
recruitment
profile
for
you
and
send
it
back
to
Nicole
to
have
you
read
it
and
give
any
other
comments
that
you
have.
It
will
be
the
text
of
the
profile
once
you
agree
with
the
text
and
give
me
any
edits.
You
have
we'll
put
it
into
the
final
format,
with
all
of
the
pictures
that
the
city
will
provide
or
has
provided
to
me
and
then
we'll
be
ready
to
advertise.
S
I
will
send
that
back
with
the
list
of
advertising
locations
that
I'm
recommending
for
your
feedback
as
well,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
I
will
recommend
that
you
cast
a
wide
net.
You
advertise
nationally
through
ICMA
through
the
Illinois
managers,
as
well
as
some
surrounding
states.
There's
also
the
National
Forum
for
black
public
administrators
and
the
local
government.
Hispanic
Network,
so
I'll
give
you
that
whole
list,
and
then
you
could.
Let
me
know
if
you're,
okay
with
that,
so
looking
at
the
schedule,
we
should
be
ready
to
do
that.
S
The
week
of
March
26,
so
I'll
turn
the
profile
around
to
you.
Give
you
about
a
you
know
a
week
five
days
or
so,
to
read
it
and
get
me
the
comments
I'll
make
the
final
edits
and
we'll
advertise.
So
after
that
we
need
some
time
for
for
me
to
reach
out
to
people
that
I
think
might
potentially
be
interested
in
the
position,
as
well
as
give
people
an
opportunity
to
apply.
S
Another
thing
that
I
could
do,
if
you
would
like
me
to
is
pose
some
questions
to
the
candidates,
to
give
some
written
feedback
about
and
I
could
have
that
available
for
you,
when
you
actually
decide
on
who
you
want
to
interview
and
I
can
put
some
of
those
together
and
send
them
to
you.
If
you'd
like,
there
were
a
couple
of
themes,
I
heard
today
about
well
I,
won't
get
into
it.
But
there's
a
couple
of
themes.
S
I
heard
today
and
then
I
want
to
get
the
rest
of
the
feedback
and
I
can
pose
some
questions
for
you
and
then
what
that
allows
you
to
do
is
give
the
candidates
an
opportunity
to
reflect
upon
some
of
the
issues
that
you've
raised
for
the
city
and
actually
give
you
some
feedback
that
they've
thought
about
in
written
format.
So
you
can
see
what
their
style
is
and
what
their
thought
process
is.
S
So
I
always
find
that
to
be
very
helpful,
because
when
I'm
making
a
recommendation
on
who
you
would
interview,
you're
gonna
get
the
cover
letter
and
you're
gonna,
get
the
resume
and
and
and
having
some
more
information
I.
Think
it's
good
to
help.
You
look
at
the
whole
person,
so
I'll
provide
that
to
you
as
well.
My
goal
would
to
be
to
bring
back
eight
to
twelve
candidates.
S
I
have
no
idea
how
many
we'll
get,
but
that's
what
I
try
to
do,
and
my
recommendation
here
is
to
meet
around
the
week
of
May
14th,
so
we
would
just
have
to
figure
out
a
time.
We
would
do
that
in
close,
because
you're
not
you're,
not
going
to
know
who
you
want
an
interview
at
that
point.
So
we
want
to
keep
the
confidentiality
of
the
candidates,
because
if
you
choose
not
to
interview
some
of
the
people,
I
present,
then
they're
done
and
and
we
preserve
their
confidentiality,
then
we
would
go
to
the
first
interviews.
S
Where
and
and
I
guess
my
question
would
be
and
we
can
refine
this
and
again
I'll
work
with
Nicole
on
this.
But
depending
on
how
many
candidates
you
have,
you
may
want
to
have
an
initial
interview
with
semi-finalists
and
then
bring
them
down
to
a
few.
A
few
finalists
may
be,
you
know
three
to
four
finalists
and
then
bring
them
back
and
go
through
a
more
robust
process
with
community
panels,
maybe
a
meet-and-greet
or
a
community
forum.
S
Something
to
that
effect.
So
when
I
spoke
with
your
staff
this
morning
and
then
somebody
emailed
something
that's
going
on
in
Urbana
with
their
City
Administrator
finalists,
there's
several
things
that
you
can
do
to
make
sure
that
you
have
a
process
that
you're,
including
the
public.
So
we
just
need
to
find
out
exactly
what
that
will
entail.
I
know
in
the
past,
you've
had
community
stakeholder
panel.
You
have
department
head
panels.
S
Obviously
you
would
interview
so
I
can
I
can
sketch
that
out
for
you
and
kind
of
give
you
what
the
timeframe
would
be
and
then
you
can.
Let
me
know
if
you're
comfortable
with
that.
So
if
you
do
a
two
step
process,
where
you
do
your
initial
group
and
then
you
narrow
them
down
and
invite
them
back
we're
looking
at
that
second
time
frame
being
around
the
week
of
June
4th
I
was
mindful
of
Memorial
Day,
so
I
thought.
S
If
you
were
able
to
have
your
first
interviews
the
week
of
the
21st
of
May,
then
you
could
announce
your
candidates
the
next
week
right
around
Memorial
Day.
So
people
would
know
who
they
are,
give
a
bio
about
them
and
then
do
the
final
interviews
the
week
of
June
4th
and
if
you
stuck
to
the
schedule
depending
on
who
your
candidate
is,
you
would
be
able
to
have
the
person
start.
You
know
pretty
soon,
or
you
know
some
time
30
to
60
days
after
that.
H
Thanks
very
much
I
know
that
you've
talked
with
most
of
us
about
what
we're
looking
for
so
I'm
interested
in
knowing
where
you
gather
information
from
to
help
sell
this
community
to
candidates.
I
mean
obviously
they're
going
to
do
all
their
due
diligence
with
media
and
whatever.
But
but
how
do
you
do
reach
out
to
the
chamber?
How
do
you
describe
our
community
to
you
know
to
help
it
to
help
pique
interest
in
the
position
so.
S
Part
of
what
we
talked
about
today
were
some
opportunities,
so
I
will
highlight
those
and
very
specific
things
like
we
talked
about
the
schools.
The
schools
are
good,
there's
lots
of
things.
You
have
a
lot
of
amenities
in
the
community
and
the
profile
will
be
structured
where
it
will
start
with
some
of
the
background
about
the
community,
some
of
the
amenities
of
the
community,
the
form
of
government,
so
it
will.
It
will
highlight
all
of
that.
Sometimes
I
get
information
from
the
chamber.
It
just
depends.
What's
out
there,
a
lot
of
it.
S
I'll
get
online,
sometimes
I'll
get
some
of
it
from
the
city's
website.
I'll
put
in
some
demographic
information
just
to
paint
a
full
picture
of
the
community,
and
then
what
follows
is
the
job
itself
and
what
the
requirements
are
and
then
the
characteristics
and
traits
what
we
talked
about
today
and
the
opportunities
and
challenges
so
the
so
the
bulk
of
the
profile
is
about
the
community.
You
know
so
if
there
were
any
sources
that
you
would
want
to
make
sure
that
I
checked
to
get
good
background
information.
S
M
S
I
will
tell
you
that
I'm
a
stickler
for
an
agenda
here.
You
know
time
frame.
So
that's
why
I'll
work
with
Nicole
we'll
get
your
dates.
So
everybody
has
enough,
you
know
advance
planning
and
then,
when
I
work
with
the
candidates,
I
say
this
is
when
things
are
going
to
happen.
So
knowing
things
early,
everybody
has
time
to
plan.
You
know
we're
two
months
or
way
or
so
of
one
you'd
actually
have
to
interview,
and
then
we
can
stick
to
this.
You
know,
barring
anything,
unforeseen.
We
should
be
able
to
stick
to
this.