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May 28, 2013 - City Council Meeting
A
B
B
B
B
F
D
I
wonder
if
I
could
start
with
a
recognition
that
we
have
reverend
dale
and
tammy
miller
here
and
they
perform
at
the
excuse.
They
have
a
an
event
every
year
at
the
harvest,
family
worship
center,
thanking
our
public
officials
and
many
of
us
were
in
attendance
several
weeks
ago
when
we
thank
you
so
much
and
they're
here
this
evening,
if
you
were
did
not
have
a
chance
to
attend,
perhaps
you
can
attend
next
year.
It
was
an
incredible
service.
Thank
you
both
of
you
for
attending
thanks.
D
G
Thank
you
very
much.
As
you
know,
we
are
funded
by
the
city
of
bloomington,
a
town
of
normal
and
we've
got
three
outstanding
students
here
today,
we've
got
anna
saguchi
anna
is
going
to
be
our
exchange
student
over
to
asayakawa
next
year,
and
then
we've
got
our
two
students
that
have
been
here
for
a
year
from
asayakawa
masaki.
G
And
they
would
like
to
say
a
few
words
to
thank
the
city
council.
These
students
have
worked
very
hard
all
semester
long
or
I'm
sorry
all
year
long
and
both
of
them
have
bees
in
american
history.
So
I'm
pretty
proud
of
that.
So
they've
got
a
few
words.
H
H
I
have
had
so
many
experiences
during
this
year
in
the
us
when
I
came
here
first
time.
I
couldn't
understand
english,
so
I
was
so
nervous,
but
everyone
who
I've
met
since
then
since
staying
here
are
very
kind
and
talk
to
me
so
much
even
if
they
don't
know
about
me,
my
nervousness
was
going
away
since
then
also
my
english
was
improved
by
conversations
with
teachers,
friends
and
my
host
family.
H
H
H
H
H
I
will
be
looking
forward
of
it.
I
usually
sorry
I
will
say
again
to
thank
you
for
having
me
in
the
bloomington.
Thank
you
for
everything.
What
what
have
helped
helped
my
study
abroad.
Thank
you.
I
I
I
wanted
to
study
chemistry
and
math,
which
is
my
theme,
but
I
couldn't
do
much
because
the
shortage
of
my
english,
but
I
could
take
some
regular
classes
I
was.
I
was
so
glad
for
that,
and
then
I
understood
the
us
history,
the
u.s
politics
and
a
mechanism
of
the
u.s
economy,
which
I
can't
study
in
japan.
I
J
J
J
I
will
share
what
it's
like
to
live
here
by
showing
powerpoint
presentations
with
pictures
and
info
I've
gathered
about
bloomington
normal,
and
I
will
also
have
a
scrapbook
that
I've
been
making
and
I've
been
taking
pictures
of
my
school
normal
community
west
and
just
like
soccer
practice
and
all
that
jazz.
So.
J
D
D
K
Thank
you
mayor.
This
is
one
of
our
more
celebratory
times
of
the
year
each
year
that
we're
very
thankful.
I'd
like
to
bring
up
tracy
zeller,
the
president
of
the
miller
park,
zoological
society.
K
K
They
like
to
do
they'd
like
to
have
their
dollars
show
show
their
support
more
so
than
their
words.
So
I
don't
think
tracy
has
a
real
long
speech,
five
or
ten
minutes.
I
think,
but
yeah
extremely
thankful
for
the
working
relationship
that
we
have,
that
they've
helped
us
achieve
a
lot
of
goals
and
we're
looking
forward
to
achieving
more
as
we
implement
our
master
plan.
So
at
this
point,
I'll
ask
tracy
if
she
wants
to
say
anything,
but
I
think
she's
got
a
check.
She's
just
wanting
to
hand
over
to
us.
D
I
wonder
actually,
if
you
could
stay
up
for
just
one
moment,
could
could
I
have
a
motion
to
express
appreciation
to
the
melbourne
park.
School
zoological
society
for
the
their
work
and
contribution.
D
D
We've
got
a
couple
of
public.
Excuse
me
proclamations.
I
just
want
to
give
public
notification
of
them.
One
is
going
to
be
a
a
proclamation
in
recognition
of
the
league
of
women
voters,
100th
anniversary
of
the
1913
illinois
law,
granting
women
the
right
to
vote
for
president
united
states
and
for
municipal
officers,
and
so
that's
certainly
a
historic
day.
100
years
ago,
that
was
seven
years
before
the
passage
of
the
19th
amendment
that
gave
women
the
right
to
vote
throughout
the
united
states.
So
we
were
on
the
cutting
edge
in
those
days.
D
D
We
move
next
to
item
5d.
The
board's
commissions
committee,
appointments
reappointments,
all
of
the
people
to
the
beautification
committee
airport
authority
conventions,
videos
of
bureau,
board
human
relations,
commission
and
the
japanese
sister
city
have
been
invited
appointees
or
reappointees
to
attend
this
evening.
So
there
may
be
questions.
Are
there?
Do
the
members
of
the
council
have
any
questions?
Would
like
any
of
the
particular
board
and
appointee
appointees
or
reappointees
to
step
forward.
D
Okay,
those
of
you
are
in
attendance.
Could
you
please
stand
if
you're
being
appointed
or
reappointed
to
one
of
the
boards
and
commissions?
I
know
some
of
you
are
out
there.
No
only
one
wow,
wow
well
you're
outstanding
in
so
many
different
ways.
I've
said
this
in
so
many
ways.
Aaron.
Thank
you
very
much
great
anyway.
Okay,
moving
on
then
to
the
consent
agenda.
D
D
D
Motion
by
alderman
black
is
there
a
second.
D
Mcdade,
since
okay,
as
the
second
any
discussion
singing
on
madam
clerk,
would
you
please
call
the
role.
N
E
N
O
D
D
E
N
D
Motion
carried-
and
we
move
on
to
the
next
item-
item
7a
agreement
with
west
side,
churches
for
youth
programming
and
just
to
make
a
little
bit
of
comments
here.
This
is
something
that
has
come
about
over
about
the
past
six
weeks
of
discussions
between
ministers
from
the
west
side
of
bloomington
and
some
of
our
police
officers
several
of
our
aldermen,
and
it
is
presented
as
a
pilot
program
and,
of
course,
the
pilot
program
means
that
our
goal
is
obviously
to
help
people.
D
But
it
is
also
to
learn
something
about
implementation,
and
so
we
would
certainly
want
to
in
many
different
ways.
We
learn
about
selection
of
people
who
would
be
included
in
the
program
and,
of
course,
as
a
pilot,
you
would
tweak
that
you
would
learn
about
the
particular
techniques
and
operation
of
the
program,
and
a
pilot
program
also
means
that
the
metrics
for
evaluation
would
be
both
qualitative.
D
Frankly,
in
some
cases,
story
based
as
well
as
you
know,
statistics.
So
that's
the
the
big
picture
in
terms
of
a
pilot
program.
We
do
know
that
the
there
may
be
interest
on
some
of
perhaps
the
judges
for,
in
the
long
term,
perhaps
giving
people
the
option
to
participate
in
a
program
such
as
this
as
an
alternative
to
jail.
But
you
have
to
have
a
program
in
place
and
at
this
point
we
really
don't
even
have
the
pilot,
and
so
again
a
pilot
would
mean
it
is
experimental.
D
You
are
learning
and
you
use
that
knowledge
not
just
to
help
people
but
then
presumably
to
build
on
that
and
then
maybe
the
next
time
you
have
a
better
program
and
it
can
begin
to
grow.
So
that's
the
the
big
picture
of
what's
in
front
of
us.
I
think,
in
order
for
us
to
be
clean
in
how
we
move
forward,
we
probably
need
to
have
a
a
motion
to
suspend
the
rules
to
allow
a
couple
of
the
pastors
who've
been
involved
in
this
to
come
forward
and
and
speak
on
this
this
issue.
D
Motioned
by
alderwoman
schmidt
is
there
a
second
second
second
by
alderwoman,
mcdade,
okay,
we
this
will
require
a
roll
call
and
we
would
need
a
two-thirds
vote
so
of
the
eight
all
the
all
the
men
and
women
present.
We
would
need
at
least
six
to
support
a
suspension
of
rules
to
allow
public
participation
here
at
clerk.
Would
you
call
the
role.
D
Thank
you,
and
could
we
have
pastor
rayford
and
mcswain
come
forward
and
and
anyone
else
who
might
want
to
as
part
of
the
group,
because
I
see
many
of
you
who
were
involved
in
this
over
the
last
couple
months
come
forth.
P
Much
to
the
council,
we
are
here
to
encourage
you
to
support
our
efforts
and
I'm
going.
B
P
Of
this
month,
these
months,
while
they're
out
of
school,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
concern
with
regards
to
our
children
and
the
need
for
them
to
have
a
different
view
within
our
city,
as
it
relates
to
the
concerns
that
are
that
we're
faced
with.
We
all
know
that
during
the
summer
months,
our
young
people
have
quite
a
bit
to
get
into
there's
so
much
that
they
can
get
into
bloomington.
Norma
has
grown
by
leaps
and
bounds,
and
a
number
of
our
children
and
young
people
are
very
active.
P
Now
they're
active
in
sports
they're,
acting
active
in
academics,
they're
active
in
so
many
other
programs
as
well,
but
there
is
a
community
of
young
people
that
we
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
lose
because
all
our
children
are
important
to
us
and
it
doesn't
matter
where
they
live.
It
doesn't
matter
what
their
issues
are.
P
We
want
to
do
all
we
can
to
minimize
crime
and
to
continue
to
build
families,
parent
and
and
youth
involvement
and
development,
as
well
as
create
an
opportunity
for
our
children
to
not
just
play
and
have
a
good
time,
but
to
grow
and
to
be
nurtured
and
to
be
trained
and
to
be
prepared
to
take
on
the
future
endeavors
of
our
city
and
blow
into
normal.
P
I
believe
it's
important
for
us
to
acknowledge
that
and
to
understand
the
need
that
there
are
some
young
people
that
will
be
faced
with
a
lot
of
challenges
and
difficulties.
What
we
want
to
do
is
allow
them
an
opportunity,
an
alternative,
if
you
may,
to
do
something
different
and
give
them
a
safe
place,
a
safe
haven
to
play
and
to
grow
and
to
nurture
and
and
as
well
as
work
with
the
parents,
to
bring
unity
and
and
and
to
allow
them
to
continue
to
develop
as
a
family.
P
P
This
is
a
pilot,
of
course,
we're
not
we're
looking
to
do
something
and
to
continue
this
effort
to
develop
it
to
to
make
it
pleasing
appeasing
to
all
and
to
allow
everyone
the
opportunity
to
take
advantage
of
it,
and
particularly
our
young
people.
Thank
you.
Kester
thanks.
D
In
the
next
10
to
12
weeks,
we're
going
to
have
approximately
100,
given
the
last
three
year
reign,
100
youth
to
offend
or
reoffend,
and
if
we're
not
real
careful,
that
number
is
going
to
spike,
simply
because
it's
the
summer
time,
whether
the
kids
that
would
participate,
this
program
are
mandated
or
they
volunteer.
We
need
to
do
something
proactively
to
stem
this
tide
of
crime.
D
D
D
Q
Q
Q
Q
D
D
In
bloomington
normal,
where
we
could
turn
the
situation
around,
thank
you
drew
did
you
want
to
go
ahead
and-
and
if
at
this
point,
could
you
state
your
name-
and
I
guess
address
so
that
we
have
a
record-
we
do
know,
pastor,
rayford
mcswain,
but
make
sure
that
everybody
knows.
R
Okay,
hey
I'm
the
youth
pastor
for
jesus
house,
and
I've
spent
the
last
two
and
a
half
years
with
a
lot
of
the
youth
on
the
west
side,
and
I
have
patched
up
bullet
wounds
and
I've
tended
to
drug
overdoses,
and
the
kids
of
this
community
need
every
ounce
of
help
that
we
can
give
them,
and
this
is
just
another
great
opportunity
that
we
can
offer
for
our
kids
of
our
youth
instead
of
just
locking
them
up
and
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
work
with
our
police
officers
with
our
city
with
our
trade
skills.
R
Men
to
teach
the
kids
skilled
trades,
give
them
something
positive
to
do
during
the
summer
time.
But
we
know
when
it's
summertime,
there's
there's
hundreds
hundreds
of
kids
and
there's
just
not
enough
programs,
there's
not
enough
role
models
out
there
coming
to
battle
this
front.
So
this
would
be
another
great
opportunity
for
our
kids
to
help
stop
the
violence
and
to
help
collectively
to
help
the
families
and
gathering
with
the
kids
and
the
families
and
reinstituting
just
a
good
family
home
life
and
hopefully
to
teach
these
kids
about
god.
R
Q
Hello,
my
name
is
miles.
Spann
and
address
is
104
west
locust,
I
mean
yeah
west
locust
apartment
2..
Q
I'm
coming
forward
today
just
to
be
very
brief
and
say
that
I'm
not
just
an
advocate
for
this
program,
but
I
am
a
testament.
I'm
living
testament
of
programs
like
the
successfully
working
I'm
originally
born
in
detroit
michigan
inner
city,
midwest,
side,
crime
rate,
astounding
I've,
I've
rubbed
elbows
with
everybody
from
drug
dealers
to
gangbangers
and
programs.
Q
Like
these
saved
my
life,
I
am
born
I'm
child
of
a
to
be
honest,
a
crack
addict,
my
dad
was
nowhere
to
be
found,
and
I
was
raised
by
my
grandmother
by
herself
over
500
a
month
what
she
was
able
to
do.
She
couldn't
do
it
all
by
herself,
so
she
had
to
put
me
in
some
place
where
I
could
be
involved,
where
I
could
have
a
chance
to
connect
with
men
my
age
and
older,
to
actually
do
something
positive
with
my
time.
So
she
connected
me.
Q
She
put
me
in
summer
programs
all
the
time
where
I
had
a
chance
to
utilize.
My
my
natural
intellect
and
my
skills
to
learn
how
to
draw
to
write
to
speak
to
do
so.
Many
different
things
and
all
I
can
say
is
that
programs
like
these
gave
me
an
opportunity
and
an
option
not
to
be
on
the
streets
for
people
to
actually
look
at
me
and
say:
hey,
you
are
better
than
what
you
are
better
than
what
people
say.
You
are
so
not
to
hold
up
any
longer.
S
My
name's
angelique,
I
own
bcai
school
of
arts
in
bloomington.
It
stands
for
breaking
chains
and
advancing
increase.
I
am
very,
very
much
a
fan
of
quality
instead
of
quantity,
meaning
with
my
business.
I
don't
go
for
the
wallet
I
go
for
the
individual,
I
believe
in
the
individual
and
the
spirit
behind
and
inside
every
individual.
S
When
just
like
miles,
I
didn't
grow
up
the
best.
I
had
the
good
family
home,
but
I
strayed.
S
My
parents
sent
me
away
to
a
boarding
school
that
had
a
very
strict
structure,
almost
worse
than
a
prison,
and
it
it
allowed
me
to
be
able
to
see
what
I'm
capable
of
a
lot
of
the
kids.
Don't
get
a
chance
to
see
what
they're
capable
of
some
of
the
kids
that
come
into
my
door
have
such
low
self-esteem
that
I
have
to
cut
off
certain
ways
of
their
dancing,
so
that
they're
not
good
trying
to
get
attention-
and
I
know
you
know
what
kind
of
dancing
I'm
talking
about.
S
I'm
not
going
to
show
you
because
it's
kind
of
inappropriate
right
here,
but
what
I've
learned
is
that
when
you
increase
an
individual's
self-importance,
what
decreases
is
the
level
of
rebel
rebelling
rebellion?
Okay?
So
what
I've
witnessed
it
and
what
I've
noticed
in
myself?
As
soon
as
I
realized
who
I
was
my
purpose,
what
I'm
here
to
do
my
skills?
What
makes
me
the
woman
of
god
that
I
am
what
I'm
here
to
do
the
only
reason
I'm
alive
at
this
point
of
time,
then
my
desire
to
rebel
became
not
almost
non-existent.
S
Now
I
wanna-
I
I'm
I'm
here
for
a
reason,
I'm
here
for
that.
If
these
kids
don't
have
somebody
telling
them
that
they're
better,
that
they're
great,
that
they
have
an
individual,
unique
reason
for
being
here,
they're
going
to
continue
to
think
that
they
have
to
have
their
approval
and
their
approval
and
their
approval.
And
then
the
there's
also
the
the
perfection
professionalistic
mindset.
S
So
we
really
need
to
spend
time
on
these
kids
mindsets
and
and
give
them
a
safe
place,
a
safe
place
to
to
be
able
to
speak,
to
be
able
to
be
themselves
to
grow.
In
themselves-
and
that's
about
it-
I
mean
it's
the
same
scripture
that
I
go
off
of
for
my
other
company.
It's
a
nonprofit
partner
company
called
true
alliance
and
the
scripture.
It
comes
out
of
genesis
from
the
story
of
babel,
the
tower
of
babel,
where
god
specifically
says
when
all
these
people
can
come
together.
D
You
police,
chief,
archie
finney,
would
you
come
forward
and
you
talk
a
little
bit
toward
the
end
the
last
week
and
a
half
or
so
been
a
little
bit
involved
in
this.
K
Thank
you
mayor.
I
I
can't
top
this.
You
know
the
the
things
that
they're
saying
are
absolutely
true.
What
what
I
can
tell
you,
that
is,
that
part
of
the
bloomington
police
department
problem
more
into
policing
requires
that
we
take
a
look
at
crime
and
we
try
to
do
what
we
consider
to
be
kind
of
predictive
policing
is
what
areas
are
have
the
patterns
of
issues
that
we
need
to
address?
K
You
know
what
are
some
of
the
the
core
problems
with
those
issues
and
some
of
the
frequencies
and
calls
for
service
in
in
2012
we
had
nearly
7
000
calls
for
service,
addressing
juveniles
and,
and
those
were
the
whole
gamut.
You
know
from
curfew
to
armed
robbery
I
mean,
and
everything
in
between
over
300
arrests
for
2012,
just
for
the
the
juvenile
aspect,
the
age
group
that
they're
talking
about.
K
I
can't
tell
you
how
to
spend
your
money-
and
I
wouldn't
stand
up
here
and
pretend
to
even
try
to
judge
a
pilot
program
such
as
this,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
is
this
that
twenty
one
thousand
dollars
versus
eighty
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
juvenile
detention
per
child,
twenty
one
thousand
dollars
at
seven
hundred
dollars
a
kid.
Even
if
you
looked
at
this
program
and
said
I
don't
know-
maybe
50
percent
of
it
would
work.
That's
15,
kids!
K
I
can
tell
you
that
that
the
impact
the
financial
impact
of
that
would
be
substantial
to
keep
these
kids
out
of
detention.
What
I
can
tell
you
in
terms
of
the
problem-oriented
policing
that
unaddressed
the
juvenile
issue
unaddressed,
we
know
where
these
kids
are
going
to
go.
We
know,
what's
going
to
happen,
it
happened
to
them.
Will
this
answer
that
question?
I
don't
know,
I
guess
again
it's
a
pilot
program
and
it's
yet
to
be
seen,
but
you
know
in
terms
of
being
able
to
do
anything
for
everybody.
I
you
know
we.
K
If
we
can't
do
something
for
for
everybody
or
everyone,
we
should
do
something.
For
someone
and
and
and
again
I
see
the
the
kids
that
they
have
the
potential
picking
out
the
30
kids,
that
being
off
the
street
in
in
these
high
profile
hour
hours
has
been
very
productive
for
not
only
the
city
of
bloomington,
but
the
police
department
and
certainly
their
neighborhood.
U
Just
a
quick
question
chief
so-
and
I
appreciate
you
talking
a
little
bit
about
the
economics
of
of
this-
my
understanding
is,
and
that
perhaps
you
can
comment
on
it
is
that
that
we
have.
We
have
some
officers,
our
officers,
that
that
work
directly
with
the
youth
in
the
community
there's
a
a
real
measure
of
enthusiasm
about
this
pilot
program
as
well
is.
Is
that
correct?
I
mean
that
that's
my
understanding.
Well,.
K
I
don't
think
any
of
the
officers
would
would
object
to
a
program
that
that
again
takes
the
kids
off
street,
that
they
don't
have
to
deal
with
on
a
on
a
daily
basis
or
a
nightly
basis,
and
you
know
seeing
what's
happening
and
seeing
them
grow
into
adults
and-
and
you
know,
address
those
crime
problems
as
well.
K
So
yeah.
I
think
there
is
some
enthusiasm
that
you
know
we
would
be
involved
in
some
of
the
programming.
U
I
just
think
that's
worth
noting
that
we
have
a
passion
and
a
commitment
and
an
interest
by
the
the
folks
who
are
on
the
street.
You
know
our
sworn
officers
on
the
street
in
in
sure
and
wanting
the
pilot
program
to
be
successful.
So
I
appreciate
your
comment
on
that
and.
K
D
Questions
of
police
chief,
all
the
women's
terms.
F
What
what
what
is
the
formalized
program
through
one
of
the
court
systems
for
juveniles?
We
are
all
familiar
with
drug
court
for
offenses
having
to
do
with
with
drugs,
and
I
think
that's
a
very
formalized
system
that
seems
to
be
working
very
well.
I
know
it's
much
of
it
is
privately
funded,
if
not
all
of
it.
Terry
you're,
probably
familiar
with
this
mayor
as
far
as
the
county
goes,
is
that
is
that
privately
funded
yeah.
D
D
F
Is
there
are
there
any
formalized
programs
to
the
courts
right
now
for
juveniles
or
well.
K
There
certainly
there's
a
number
of
programs
that
the
courts
will
will
sentence
the
the
delinquent
person
to
I
specifically,
I
can't
tell
you
the
agencies
are
involved,
I'm
not
as
familiar
with
mclean
county,
as
I
am
obviously
with
champaign
county,
but
the
the
courts
do
find
the
family
service
organizations
and
things
to
do
the
counseling
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
it's
paid
for
typically
from
from
the
state
and
state
funds.
K
County
funds,
as
the
mayor
talked
as
well,
that
there's
a
lot
of
department,
justice,
juvenile
justice
funds
that
come
come
as
an
umbrella
into
a
community
for
through
the
federal
agencies
as
well.
That
have
to
be
extended.
D
Of
the
questions,
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Oh
I
would
I
guess,
since
we've
suspended
the
rules,
yes,.
T
Evening
mayor
good
evening,
council,
my
name
is
nick
sanchez
and
I
was
contacted
just
about
three
weeks
ago
by
the
pastors
behind
me
and
along
with
a
couple
other
people
from
the
west
side
to
sit
down
and
talk
with
them
about
a
couple
ideas
about
exactly
how
this
would
work.
T
So
I
just
thought
I
would
be
available
to
the
council
to
see
if
there's
any
questions
about
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
the
actual
program,
and
that
way
I
would
be
available
to
kind
of
answer
anything
in
detail
that
you'd
kind
of
like
to
know
about
the
12-week
program
and
overall.
So
I
just
thought
I
would
give
that
offer
to
you
as
well.
U
Sage,
I
will
just
ask-
and
this
is
a
question
I
generally
ask
for
any
community
group
that
comes
into
the
council-
requesting
financial
support.
So
can
you
the
request,
is
for
about
21
000
from
the
city
of
bloomington
sure.
U
So
can
you
provide
some
line
of
sight
for
how
that
money
will
be
used
and,
and
then
I
know,
for
instance,
when
we
have
other
groups
who
come
to
the
city
to
to
request
funds,
we
have
an
understanding
of
kind
of
a
the
check
and
the
balance
of
how
the
money
is
is
appropriated
spent
accounted
for
that
type
of
thing.
U
So
could
you
just
give
us
again
kind
of
that
line
of
sight
for
how
the
not
not
the
entire
gifts,
because
we're
talking
about
substantially
more
private
sector
contributions
here
than
we
are
public
sector
from
the
city?
But
for
the
part,
that's
the
cities,
the.
T
Overall
12-week
program
is
going
to
run
probably
around
60
000
on
the
high
end,
when
you
take
a
look
at
the
overall
cost,
the
majority
of
that
is
being
eaten
by
the
churches
and
most
of
all,
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
associated
behind
it.
So
all
those
in-kind
donations,
the
liability
insurance,
the
van
fuel,
the
van
insurance,
some
of
the
resources
that
we're
going
to
be
using
within
the
facility
things
like
that.
All
of
that
is
being
brought
in
from
the
actual
churches
to
cut
that
price
down
or
cut
that
cost
down.
T
The
overall
21
thousand
dollars
is
going
to
really
help
staff.
The
four
adults
that
are
going
to
be
running
the
actual
program,
so
we'll
have
three
actual
activity
instructors
that
are
going
to
be
with
the
staff
along
with
one
coordinator
overlooking
the
actual
program,
the
checks
and
balances
of
the
actual
program
will
be
run
through
a
fiscal
agent.
T
Family
community
resource
center
has
offered
to
be
the
fiscal
agent,
so
we
will
be
following
all
of
their
fiscal
policies,
hr
policies,
organizational
policies,
hiring
policies
and
whatnot
to
maintain
that
standard
within
them,
as
they
are
employees.
Since
speaking
with
family
community
resource
center,
I've
had
two
other
offers
from
two
other
organizations.
That
would
also
like
to
be
considered
as
a
fiscal
agent
as
well.
T
So
if
something
does
not
work
out
with
family
community
resource
center,
we
can
also
reach
out
to
a
couple
other
non-profits
in
town
as
well.
Is
that
sufficient
or
would
you
have.
U
More,
let
me
let
me
direct
your
question
and
maybe
to
to
to
city
manager
hales.
So
I
know
david,
for
instance,
when
we
have
expenditures
that
go
out
as
a
result
of
the
community.
Develop
development
block
grants,
those
come
back
and
I
think
maybe
sharon
or
or
mark
or
someone
it
kind
of
approves,
has
some
accountability
for
for
how
those
funds
are
are
spent.
Will
there
be
a
stat,
a
city
staff
person
as
well,
who
will
be
have
some
measure
of
oversight
over
the
the
twenty
one
thousand
dollar
funds,
or
do
we
know
yet.
V
Actually,
it's
still
a
work
in
progress,
but
we
are
you
know
and
talking
with
the
mayor
today.
I'm
recommending
that,
as
part
of
the
motion
that
you
authorize
the
city
manager
to
work
up
some
sort
of
letter
of
agreement
so
that
we
could
put
in
there
some
of
the
basic
terms
and
conditions
that
are
typical
for
some
of
these
year-to-year
contracts,
you
maybe
see
in
the
cdbg,
but
because
the
time
frame
is
so
short,
we
will
come
up
with
something
and
identify
who
that
contact
person
with
the
city
will
be.
V
U
D
F
I
I
don't
know
if
you
had
a
chance-
and
I
don't
know
who
the
appropriate
person
is,
because
I
had
about
15
or
20
questions
and
most
of
them
say
mayor
renner
and
alderman
schmidt.
So
I
don't
know
really
what
that
means.
You
know
it
says
a
lot
of
my
questions
just
say.
For
instance,
I
asked
about
the
educational
qualifications,
the
actual
certification,
that
the
director
will
hold.
I'm
looking
for
the
professional
you
know
licensing
and
that
kind
of
thing
that
the
director
and
the
employees
will
hold.
F
T
And
I
think
the
one
thing
that
I
I
would
make
clear
for
this
program
is,
after
speaking,
with
stephanie
bearish
in
town
here,
who
I
actually
reach
out
to
on
a
regular
basis
anytime.
I
have
any
type
of
mental
health
questions
about
youth
that
I'm
working
with
in
town
here
you
know,
I
talked
to
her
and
I
said
stephanie
how
many.
T
Do
you
think
I
would
need
for
a
program
like
this?
You
know
how
many
licensed
clinical
social
workers
or
things
like
that,
and,
to
my
surprise
she
said
you
know.
I
don't
know
what
the
type
of
clientele
that
you're
going
to
be
working
with
they're
going
to
want
to
be
doing
a
one-on-one
with
somebody
like
that.
You
may
want
one
overall,
seeing
it
and
that's
where
her
office
comes
in
and
they're
able
to
help.
T
But
she
says
you
really
looking
for
somebody
that
has
street
credibility,
you're
looking
for
people
that
is
well
respect,
well,
respected
on
the
street
and
that
these
weapons
offenders
theft,
retail
offenders,
whoever
they
may
be
whatever
they're
doing,
sits
and
looks
at
the
person
across
from
them,
and
doesn't
think
that
they're
being
judged
isn't
sitting
across
from
somebody
that
is
sparkly
clean
is
actually
standing
across
somebody
that
has
been
through
something
similar,
either
in
their
backgrounds
or
their
lives,
or
has
had
some
type
of
hiccup
in
their
life
and
have
come
through
it
and
have
been
a
a
more
productive
citizen.
T
If
you
will
in
the
community-
and
I
kind
of
took
a
step
back-
and
I
thought
about
that-
and
I
said
you
know
what
that
makes
great
sense,
so
that
kind
of
shook
me
a
little
bit
because
I
was
thinking
having
to
have
licensed
social
workers
and
things
like
that.
But
having
the
strength
of
a
lot
of
these
organizations
around
me
and
supporting
me,
like
stephanie's
organization,
I
think,
will
help
me
fill
those
credible
spots
with
the
right
people
on
a
case-by-case
basis
when
I
need
them
so
off.
T
I'm
considering
the
question
again,
I'm
going
to
be
looking
for
college-educated
child
development,
if
not
ba,
finished
young
adults,
adults
with
some
type
of
background
of
working
with
inner
city
children,
it
would
really
be
the
the
major
focus
I
would
be
looking
for.
T
F
A
question
about
the
fiscal
agent:
I'm
not
familiar
with
that
family
community
resource
center-
I'm
not
familiar
with
that
one,
but
I'm
curious.
If,
if
you
or
for
that
matter,
I'm
curious.
If
the
city
thought
about
soliciting
bids,
you
know
thought
about
actually
putting
out
a
request
for
proposals.
W
F
Really
you
mentioned
that
you
have
other
fiscal
agents
that
have
stepped
up,
and
my
question
simply
relates
to
one
issue
and
one
issue
only,
and
that
is
that
we
are
spending
taxpayer
funds,
in
other
words,
we're
not
being
asked
for
community
development
like
block
grant
funds,
which
I
thought
when
I
first
heard
about
this
program,
we're
actually
being
asked
to
take
money
out
of
the
general
fund
contingency
fund,
whatever
of
the
city
of
bloomington,
which
you
know
I
mean
doesn't
doesn't
say
anything
about
the
program.
F
What
I've
heard
is
that
children
will
be
referred,
they'll
be
maybe
they'll,
maybe
they'll
come
forward.
Maybe
their
parents
will
come
forward,
but
what
I'm
asking
is
what
about
children
from
all
the
other
sections
of
town?
You
know
the
last
murder.
I
think
we
had
nothing
to
do
with
any
of
this,
I
believe,
was
on
the
east
side.
I
think
we've
had
a
couple
of
incidents
on
the
east
side.
What
about
all
of
the
other?
F
T
Don't
I
think,
you're
exactly
right
and
I
think
if
you
had
the
the
privilege
of
having
more
time
on
your
hand,
absolutely
you'd
want
to
put
together
and
gather
more
input
and
things
like
that,
but
with
summer
knocking
on
the
door
and
already
a
focus
group
in
place
of
of
officers
and
people
from
the
community,
knowing
where
a
lot
of
this
trouble
is
going
to
begin,
I
have
to
applaud
all
the
people
that
came
to
that
table
the
first
meeting
I
I
arrived
at.
They
already
had
this
plant.
T
T
Just
plain
old
and
that
twenty
one
thousand
000
is
going
to
come
in
and
be
again
a
pilot
program,
and
if
we
knock
this
out
of
the
park
who
says
we
can't
put
one
on
the
east
side
who
says
we
can't
put
one
in
lexington
who
says
we
can't
put
one
somewhere
else,
but
we
need
something
to
go
off
of
and
show
the
rest
of
the
people
on
the
council
and
the
rest
of
the
taxpayers.
That
said,
look
we
took
twenty
one
thousand
dollars
and
helped
thirty
plus
kids
over
these
three
months.
T
F
T
Criteria
that
we're
going
to
take
the
kids
on
is
we've
initially
started
to
go
with
the
courts
and
with
the
police
department
and
trying
to
see
if
we
would
get
referrals
straight
from
them
from
kids
that
were
reoffending,
absolutely
not
it's
against
the
law.
They
cannot
do
that.
We
respect
that
100
percent.
One
of
the
officers
that
was
at
the
meeting
said
I
would
love
to
have
literature
on
this.
I
would
love
to
have
this
information
ready.
T
T
Having
spoken
with
mclean
county
court,
juvenile
system,
they'd
have
said
the
same
thing:
they
would
have
that
available
already
there
having
spoken
with
very
many
different
organizations
across
town
from
project
oz,
to
the
wise
boys
and
girls
clubs,
illinois
wesleyan,
you
name
it
the
parks
and
recs.
They
would
all
be
aware
of
this
program.
T
D
D
F
Or
if
somehow
he
didn't
meet,
you
know
he
hadn't
been
in
trouble.
You
know
it
would
just
break
my
heart
to
think
of
any
child.
Atheist
buddhist,
you
know,
indian,
I
I
can't
even
fathom
the
the
the
ethnic
groups
and
so
on
across
this
city,
east
west.
You
know
north
south,
whatever
it
would
break
my
heart
if
a
child
could
not
be
admitted
to
this
program,
and
I
think
it
is
critically
important
that
strict
criteria
be
set
and
be
in
be
in
place.
F
The
city
right
now
has
a
lawsuit
pending
for
failing
to
establish
arbitrary
and
certain,
not
arbitrary,
I'm
sorry
certain
criteria
for
another
whole
another
issue.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
this,
but
it
would
break
my
heart
if
a
child
could
not
be
accepted
or
had
to
be
rejected
from
this
program,
because,
frankly,
you're
full
and
you're
going
to
have
you're
going
to
have
limits,
and
that's
that's
understood,
but
I
think
it's
critically
important
to
know
exactly
what
those
limits
are
going
in.
F
This
is
about
the
children
of
bloomington
and
their
future
and
doing
the
very
best
that
we
possibly
can
do,
and
it's
also
about
being
responsible
and
answering
the
questions
of
the
taxpayers
in
terms
of
how
what,
where
is
the
accountability
for
the
success
rate,
the
metrics
that
will
prove
you
know
and
help,
give
us
facts:
statistics,
not
guesses,
not
ideas,
not
hopeful
talk,
but
proof
of
what
we're
really
accomplishing
out
there
for
the
children
of
bloomington.
So
I
do
thank
everyone
for
their
efforts.
F
I'm
just
I'm
just
awestruck
by
what
people
have
put
into
this,
but
I
for
myself.
I
have
to
be
sure
this
is
fair
across
the
city
and
also
that
one
area
of
the
city
is
not
stereotyped
in
any
way
shape
or
form
for
being
the
the
troubled
area.
I
don't
think
that's
fair
to
the
west
side.
My
whole
family
were
west
siders
and
I'm
a
champion
of
the
west
side,
and
I
don't
want
stereotypes
out
there.
I
I
don't
want
stereotypes
for
any
group
for
any
any
side
of
town.
D
X
Well,
thank
you.
I
won't
speak
long.
I
just
want
to
say
how
excited
I
am
get
the
opportunity
to
vote
on
this
tonight.
I
think
it's
a
great
program.
It's
by
no
means
a
government
program.
I
hear
all
the
time
from
taxpayers.
You
know
government
do
something
good!
You
know.
Government
doesn't
do
the
best
work
alone,
and
you
can
see
here
if
you
take
a
look
at
the
budget,
that
our
funds
are
being
leveraged,
really
the
funds
that
we're
giving
would
only
support
about
one
month
of
this
program.
X
That's
how
much
other
money
is
being
leveraged
to
make
this
happen.
So
this
is
as
long
as
I've
sat
up
here.
We've
been
talking
about
public-private
partnerships,
and
I
realize
we
talk
about
those
in
all
sorts
of
ways,
and
this
is
a
really
important
one,
I
think
maybe
one
of
the
most
important
ones
I've
seen
us
participate
in
and
maybe
the
most
important
one
we're
among
the
most
important.
So
I'm
really
excited
we're
up
here
talking
about
it
tonight
and
I
think
our
role
is
to
say
you
know
what
this
absolutely
supports.
X
Just
the
strategic
vision
of
this
I'm
so
excited:
can
you
tell
the
strategic
vision
of
this
city?
It
supports
the
strong
neighborhoods
that
we've
been
talking
about.
It
supports
investing
in
the
future
of
this
community,
and
so
to
me
you
know.
That's
our
role
is
to
say
this
supports
our
strategy
for
moving
the
city
forward.
X
I
am
glad
that
there
are
professionals
and
and
individuals
that
are
going
to
sort
through
all
the
details
of
this
program
and
the
mechanics
of
it,
and
it
sounds
like
that
is
well
underway,
and
I
know
it's
hard
work.
That's
going
to
continue
for
the
rest
of
the
summer
and
well
beyond
that.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
thank
you
for
bringing
this
program
to
us
and
allowing
us
the
opportunity
to
be
a
partner
with
you
and
doing
the
good
work
that
you
do
every
day
and
moving
bloomington
forward.
So
thanks
very
much.
L
Thank
you.
I
don't
want
to
reiterate
anything,
that's
been
said,
but
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
remember.
This
is
a
pilot.
If
we
wait
until
we
can
grow
the
program
that
we
want
to
grow,
we
will
never
do
it.
We
are
already
spending
this
money,
we're
just
spending
it
in
a
different
way
and
in
a
reactive
way-
and
I
cannot
say
thank
you
enough
to
the
churches,
particularly
the
west
side
churches,
for
coming
up
with
this
proposal.
D
Thank
you,
I'm
going
to
put
alderman
scott
black
online.
You
were
involved
in
some
of
this
any
comments
you
have
anything
to
add
to
this.
M
Oh
well,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
just
that
this
is
a
conversation
that
I
was
humbled
to
be.
A
part
of
this
stems
from
a
conversation
that
we
had
had
in
my
ward
and
sharing
with
garen's
ward,
just
kind
of
to
the
south
of
of
me
some
of
the
issues
that
the
west
side
faces
in
terms
of
crime
specifically
related
to
juveniles,
and
for
those
of
you
who
know
me,
I'm
a
very
a
results-oriented
kind
of
guy,
and
you
know
we
can
talk
about
the
the
challenges
that
we
face.
M
But
what
are
we
going
to
do
about
them?
And
this
discussion
has
led
to
action
and
we
have
I'm
blown
away
by
how
quickly
that
we've
moved
on
talking
about?
How
can
we
implement
some
of
the
ideas
we're
talking
about?
I've
been
involved
in
many
different
groups,
many
different
ideas
projects
that
just
kind
of
fall
by
the
wayside,
because
you
know
we
have
some
great
ideas,
but
the
implementation
is
out
there.
That's
not
the
case
with
this
organization.
M
We
have
some
really
good
minds
that
are
talking
about
helping
our
kids
to
solve
a
specific,
targeted
problem
and
I
think
we're
in
a
good
position
to
make
this
happen
this
summer.
I
don't
think
this
will
just
be
a
pilot
program.
I
think
this
will
be
a
recurring
program
throughout
moving
forward,
but
we
have
to
embrace
it
at
this
point
and
I'm
not
just
talking
about
voting
for
it.
I
want
to
participate
in.
M
Y
I'm
kind
of
struggling
with
what
to
say,
because
this
seems
to
be
obvious
to
me:
there's
there's
a
great
need.
It's
been
pretty
well
documented
over
the
past
couple
of
years,
we've
all
seen
in
the
pentagraph
reports
of
issues
with
juveniles.
So
I'm
not
quite
sure.
Y
I
know
we
do
spend
money
in
different
ways
and-
and
I
think
for
a
pilot
program.
While
I
understand
the
need
to
be
responsible
with
that
money,
I
also
we
also
have
to
be
open
to
the
fact
that
this
is
something
new
that
needs
to
be
tried.
Y
We
need
to
applaud
the
people
who
are
coming
together,
because
this
is
a
partnership
of
groups
that
may
not
come
together
traditionally.
So
we
should
applaud
that,
and
this
is
something
that
can
help
us
build
for
the
future.
Is
there
ever
certainty
in
everything
that
we're
going
to
do
there?
Never
is
you
know
you
can
have
the
best
engineers
the
best
statisticians,
but
it
will
still
the
best
accountants,
but
it
may
still
fail.
Y
So
there
is
never
certainty,
but
what
I
see
here,
I
see
the
synergy
and
the
energy
that
people
have
and
that
to
me
gives
me
hope
that
there's
going
to
be
a
success
in
this
endeavor,
just
as
an
example,
this
is
something
that
I
fully
support.
Sister
city
funding.
Y
You
know
we
had
people
who
were
here
who
were
talking
about
sister
city
funding,
how
many
people
are
involved
in
the
program
very
few,
but
I,
but
I
also
know,
I'm
also
open
to
the
fact
that
those
kinds
of
things
can
have
a
a
benefit
to
the
community.
We
cannot,
you
know,
count
the
benefit
just
in
terms
of
how
many
people
we
have
involved
in
the
program.
So
let's
just
be
open
to
the
possibility.
U
Ultimate
stage,
just
a
point
of
clarification,
just
so
there's
not
any
misunderstanding.
This
is
not
a
multi-year
commitment.
This
is
a
one-time,
a
one-year
commitment
one
time
one
summer.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we're
not
somehow
implying
that
that
there's
something
longer
term
than
that
this
is
it's
been
suggested,
a
pilot
program
right,
so
any
suggestion
that
it
could
be
something
that's
going
to
happen
next
year.
The
year
after
remains
to
be
seen.
We
just
need
to
see
how
this
works.
I.
D
Think
that's
absolutely
the
case.
In
my
understanding
when
I
was
at
the
international
city,
county
management
association,
anything
that
said
pilot
meant.
That
means
nick
you
guys.
The
heavy
burden
of
proof
is
on
you
to
show
us
that
this
is
going
to
work
and
there's
no
assumption
whatsoever
that
there
might
be
any
other
money
coming
whatsoever.
The
whole
idea
is
you
provide
seed,
money
and
absolutely,
and
I
would
certainly
echo
what
alderwoman
stearns
had
said.
Absolutely
the
public.
D
You
know
accountability
is
essential
and
that's
why
we
may
wind
up
having
assuming
this
passes,
an
additional
motion
to
perhaps
delegate
authority,
the
city
manager
or
whatever.
You
know
the
council's
pleasure
to
ensure
that
this
is
implemented
over
the
course
of
the
summer
in
an
agreement.
That's
consistent
with
our
other
points,
but
I
would
have
to
say
in
the
broader
scheme
of
things
that
if
you
would
have
told
me
that
at
my
second
council
meeting
that
we
would
be
able
to
make
so
much
of
a
difference
in
so
many
human
beings
lives.
D
Frankly,
not
because
of
government,
but
because
of
an
organic
process
from
the
community,
yes,
older,
woman,
schmidt
and
I
were
involved
in
alderman
black
and
then
toward
the
end
city
manager,
david
hales,
but
to
a
large
degree,
this
came
from
the
community
and
that's
certainly
strength,
I'm
so
sorry,
alderman
lauer.
I
didn't
mean
to
try
to
give
mayoral
comments
unless
the
debate
was
finished.
My
apologies.
Z
No
problem,
sir,
I
appreciate
your
candor
just
a
couple,
quick
comments
and
questions.
I
understand
that
this
is
a
very
emotional
thing
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
I
actually
have
a
family.
That's
been
involved
in
law
enforcement
and
in
social
work.
For
many
many
years
I
grew
up
with
parents
that
were
involved
and
a
grandparent
that
was
involved
prior
to
the
depression.
Actually,
so
I
understand
all
the
issues
that
are
involved
certainly
understand
the
churches,
and
I
I
commend
the
entire
community-
that's
been
involved.
Z
However,
I
think
we
still
need
to
take
a
a
very,
very
close
look
at
what
we're
doing,
where
we're
spending
our
money
and
how
it's
being
spent
from
a
business
standpoint.
Okay,
and
we
need
we
need
to
have
metrics,
we
need
to
be
able
to
evaluate
where
we're
going
and
what
we're
going
to
do
next.
Okay,
it's
just
the
way
a
private
business
would
run
on
a
day-to-day
week-to-week
month-month
basis,
and-
and
so
one
of
the
questions
that
I
would
have
is
what
has
been
done
and
what
is
being
done
on
an
ongoing
basis.
T
I
I
think
we
definitely
could
do
more.
I
think,
once
we
had
we
to
your
point,
we
have
not
done
much
leg
work
at
all
to
raise
outside
dollars
other
than
state
farm
and
bloomington,
but
to
us
that
simply
means
to
me.
T
Actually
what
that
means
is
organizing
our
pastors
organizing
the
volunteers
at
this
program
and
beginning
to
put
together
some
type
of
resource
development
plan
for
the
program
if
they
continue
to
see
a
need
for
this,
and
since
they
do
feel
like
this
is
going
to
be
a
need
for
a
long-term
basis
in
the
community,
then
my
suggestion
would
be
to
all
of
the
people
that
they
create
the
biannual
board
of
directors
for
this
program
that
they
would
definitely
put
together
a
resource
development
plan,
in
which
I
would
be
able
to
help
them
put
together,
which
may
include
or
may
not
include
individual
solicitations,
special
events,
and
you
know
and
different
things
like
that
to
raise
dollars
all
of
that
work.
T
I
would
definitely
not
be
looking
to
do
so
much
of
that
in
the
in
the
beginning,
just
for
the
sole
fact
that
we
do
not
know
if
we
are
even
going
to
be
here
doing
this
type
of
thing
starting
in
june,
I
would
feel
more
secure
being
able
to
have
a
product
in
front
of
me
working
on
and
then
be
able
to
go
out
and
generate
some
interest
to
donate
towards
it
or
invest
in
it
and
that's
kind
of
the
way
I
would
work
instead
of
putting
the
carp
before
the
horse.
T
Z
Going
to
stand
here
and
ask
for
you
to
go
out
and
start
to
do
that
fundraising
now:
okay,
I
think
in
the
best
interest
of
the
taxpayer,
we
have
to,
I
think,
there's
funds
available
from
the
private
sector.
I
think
they'll
get
behind
us.
I
think
the
community
is
very
behind
everything
that
this
stands
for
it's
a
very
good
thing,
but
you
know
from
speaking
as
a
as
a
private,
individual
and
a
person.
Z
That's
spent
my
lifetime
in
business
and
and
actually
watching
the
revenue
almost
hour
to
hour
at
times
whether
we
were
going
to
stay
afloat
in
a
private
business
or
not
is
an
ongoing
thing
that
many
of
our
citizens
have
to
deal
with
on
a
day-to-day
basis,
and
so
I
think
this
type
of
program
needs
to
be
mindful
of
that
as
well.
Z
Z
Okay
in
a
very,
very
short
period
of
time-
and
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
do
that,
and
one
of
the
things
I
would
ask
of
counsel
is
if
we
could
do
something
on
an
incremental
type
basis,
maybe
on
a
week-to-week
or
a
month-to-month
basis,
so
that
we're
not
funding
this
from
our
aspect
right
up
front
with
the
twenty
one
thousand.
Well,
I.
D
Think
that's
what
the
discussion
that
I
had
with
the
city
manager
hales
was
that
if
we
delegate
the
authority
to
the
city
manager
to
implement
this,
there's
not
a
check
for
twenty
one
thousand.
It's
implemented
over
several
months
right.
Z
D
Other
any
other
questions
counsel,
although
I'm
strong
sorry.
F
I've
already
overused
my
time
I
apologize,
but
I
do
I
do
need
to
ask
because
it
hasn't
come
up.
I
just
need
to
understand
about
the
rent,
payment
and
the
utility
payment,
because
it's
listed
in
the
expenses
and
so
on,
and
I
I'm
just
really
confused
about
you
know
who
are
who
is
the
rent
actually
going
to
and
what
are
what?
What
are
the
utilities?
J
D
F
N
D
Are,
as
you
said
in
kind,
and
the
church
I
serve
is
absorbing
those
costs
that
would
be
rent
utility
air
conditioning
whatever
else
there
may
be,
the
twenty
one
thousand
dollars
by
and
large
goes
to
pay
for
the
minds
of
those
who
are
going
to
help
shape
this
program
and
force
and
deal
with
our
kids.
The
churches
here
and
others
pastors
that
couldn't
be
here
are
all
contributing
in
kind.
How.
F
Q
Q
D
I
think
I
think
the
big
picture
is
the
the
churches
are
contributing
the
in-kind,
the
facilities
et
cetera
and
we're
talking
about
mainly
personnel
costs
points
clarification.
Okay,
do
I
have
a
okay?
Well,
since
we've
suspended
the
rules.
Well,
if
we
make
it
quick,
because
this
is
supposed
to
take
20
minutes,
believe
it
or
not,
I'm
willie.
AA
Brown
and
I
live
at
3208
dorset
here
in
bloomington.
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment
about
individual,
giving
and
private
giving.
AA
That
may
be
helped.
The
most
this
program
should
be
open
to
everybody
everybody.
But
if
we're
talking
about
what's
going
on
on
the
west
side,
I
want
to
be
clear.
It
should
be
open
to
everybody.
Then
people
who
either
grew
up
on
the
west
side
or
part
of
the
west
side
should
be
willing
to
put
their
money
where
their
mouth
is
too.
So
they
are
trying
to
get
money
from
individuals
and
from
other
people.
However,
it
came
together
so
quickly
that
that
part
of
it
was
lacking
as
far
as
contact
you
see.
D
That
this
is
inconsistent
with
bloomington's
image,
just
according
to
psalm
we're
not
supposed
to
be
that
decisive
and
quick,
but
we're
going
to
be
tonight.
I
have
a
feeling.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
If
there
are
any
other
questions,
can
we
go
ahead
and,
oh,
we
don't
have
a
motion
actually
formally.
First.
D
Oh,
thank
you
second,
second,
by
alderman
mcdade,
do
we
need
to
call
the
roll
for
that.
L
D
All
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
okay,
so
we're
back
to
order
now
we
could
entertain
a
motion
to
approve.
L
D
Made
by
alderman
alderwoman
schmidt,
second,
by
alignment:
okay,
all
right,
any
other
questions.
Can
we
go
ahead
and
call
the
roll?
Thank
you.
F
F
And
in
my
my
discussion
is
my
discussion:
is
this
the
one
issue
that
hasn't
come
up
tonight
and
I've
heard
a
great
deal
about
the
reverend
from
the
jesus
house
said
we're
going
to
promote
god
and
some
of
the
you
know
pastor
one
of
the
pastors.
F
It
concerns
me
greatly
with
the
with
the
any
any
use
at
all
of
taxpayer
money
for
private
and,
if
you
will
religious,
religious,
even
related.
So
I
love
it
as
a
christian,
and
I
want
to
be
the
one
along
with
alderman
black.
I
want
to
say
that
I'd
love
to
make
a
private
contribution
from
my
own
company
and,
along
with
alderman
lauer,
I'd
like
to
say
that
I
believe
this.
F
F
You
know
when
grants
are
written,
they
have
to
meet
certain
criteria.
Metrics
are
critical.
I
had
a
long
chat
with
the
illinois
policy
institute
today,
who
gave
me
a
list
of
metrics
that
would
be
required
for
any
grant
by
by
most
state
or
funded
agencies.
So
I
really
apologize.
I
love
the
program.
I
love
the
idea,
I'd
love
to
help,
but
I
can't
support
this.
I
don't
think.
That's
the
responsible
thing
to
the
taxpayers
of
bloomington
across
religious
faith,
even
atheism
whatever
they
are.
F
Z
I
I
second
that
as
well,
I
I
back
judy
up.
I
really
think
that
we
have
to
be
very
cognizant
of
what
we're
spending
public
funds,
for
if
you
had
a
plan
for
going
forward
and
raising
those
funds
on
your
own,
I
would,
I
would
probably
get
a
little
bit
more
behind
this,
but
at
the
current
time,
since
there
is
not
a
plan,
you
admitted
that
I
really
can't
support
it
publicly.
Z
Z
I've
seen
things
happen
in
the
private
sector
that
you
wouldn't
believe
at
times,
and
I
think
that
that
could
happen
and
should
happen
here.
I
would
like
the
city
to
stand
behind
this.
You
know
from
from
a
standpoint
that
we
would
support
you,
but,
but
not
necessarily
financially
until
at
least
we
have
a
plan
for
for
that
funding
in
in
those
private
donations,
etc.
So
that's.
D
Where
I'm
at
right,
thank
you
all
right,
ultimate
room
if
you'd
be
rather
quick,
we
haven't
heard
from
you.
Otherwise
I
would
go
ahead
to
the
call
to
the
question.
O
Here
and
with
all
respect,
mr
mayor,
I've
not
spoken
in
the
last
60
minutes,
so
I
will
make
this
very
quick.
I
almost
feel
like
I'm
obligated,
to
say
something,
and
I
want
to
say
that
I'm
fully
supportive
of
this
and
there's
uncertainties
in
a
lot
of
things.
We
do
and
we
talked
about
being
a
pilot,
so
I'm
doing
making
some
reputation
here,
but
there's
a
lot
of
unanswered
questions
and
for
20
21
000.
O
D
Thank
you
all
for
showing
okay,
madam
clerk,
would
you
call
the
roll
and
again
a
yes
would
be
in
favor,
obviously,
nay
would
be
opposed.
D
Okay,
62
motion
carries
and
could
we
in
terms
of
administrative
matters,
could
we
have
entertain
a
motion
to
delegate
authority
the
city
manager
to
execute
this
consistent
with
our
other
types
of
contracts?
Some.
X
D
Moved
by
alderman
mcdade,
second,
second,
a
second
by
alderwoman
schmidt,
okay,
any
discussion,
madam
clerk,
would
you
call
the
role
please.
N
E
X
D
Okay,
ocean
curator,
we'll
move
on
then
to
item
7b
text,
amendment
to
chapter
8,
animals
and
fouls
identification
and
regulation
of
vicious
and
dangerous
dogs.
Now
here
we
recommend
that
the
ordinance
be
passed
and
we
have
budgeted
15
minutes,
but
I
understand
that
there
might
be
another
a
request
for
a
motion,
suspend
rules.
F
Well,
it's
either
a
motion
to
suspend
the
rules
because
we
have
someone
here
from
wishbone
or
a
motion
to
table
because
we
have
not
had
enough
time-
and
we
talked
about
this
at
our
last
meeting-
that
we
might
not
have
enough
time.
D
F
Fully
reach
so
frankly,
I
like
to
make
that
motion
I
like
to
just
make
the
motion
that
we
table,
because
we
talked
last
time
about
wishbone
and
frankly,
we
got
a
written
statement
from
wishbone
here.
Regarding
the
many
many
you
know,
problems
issues
that
remain
with
the
coordinating
with
all
of
not
just
wishbone
but
mclean
county.
D
D
There
a
second
to
that.
Yes,
second,
by
alderman
lauer,
again,
all
the
women's
turns
if
you
could
speak
to
your
motion
and
I'm.
D
D
Just
just
as
a
as
a
background
there
had
alderman
flower
and
alderwoman
stearns
and
I
did
meet
with
wishbone
and
representative
being
society
a
week
ago
this
evening
and
our
legal
counsel,
george
boyle
was
there
and
I
know
that
there's
been
some
interaction,
that's
just
as
background
information.
Alderman
freud
wanted
to
comment.
My.
O
A
L
D
Okay,
if
I
might,
if
I'm
understanding
the
procedural
situation
here,
would
you
be
willing
to
and
then
the
second
or
withdraw
your
motion.
D
Second,
a
second
emotion:
okay,
second
devotion:
further
discussion,
alderman
discussion.
O
O
U
D
U
It
up
to
the
discretion.
That's
here,
I'd
like
to
see
minimal
time
allocated
for
public
comment
tonight.
Our
next
public
safety
committee
meeting
is
june
13th.
That
means
this
would
automatically
go
then
to
the
second
council
meeting
in
june,
which
should
be
more
than
enough
time
when
we
come
back
for
the
second
meeting
in
june,
which
I
think
is
the
24th.
U
We
should
be
ready
to
vote
that
night.
That's
almost
that's
a
practically
a
month
away.
U
D
M
Quickly,
I've
gotten
some
feedback
from
constituents
about
this
topic
and
I'm
open
to
the
idea
of
postponing,
but
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
them
with
a
specific
reason
as
to
the
virtue
of
postponing.
So
I
guess
that
would
be
directed
to
who
made
the
motion,
but
other
women's
turns
all
the
women
stearns.
F
And
the
reason
is
because
of
wishbone
rescue
group,
which
came
to
to
kevin
and
sort
of
to
to
me,
as
did
mclean
county
humane
society,
and
they
wanted
to
coordinate
to
make
sure
that
the
rules
in
our
vicious
dog
ordinance
didn't
in
any
way
hamper
in
their
fostering
because
they
have
a
very
extensive
foster
program
and
they
save
they
save
600
stray
animals
per
year.
Roughly.
F
I
think
that
was
their
number
last
year,
so
they're
clearly
heavily
invested
in
animal
welfare
in
our
community
and
they
had
these
concerns
sort
of
legal
language
to
make
sure
that
their
fosters
didn't
feel.
You
know
any
sense
of
trepidation
because
of
this
ordinance
and
and
I'm
sure
that
we
would
agree,
we
don't
want
to
in
any
way
you
know
pamper
their
wonderful
efforts
with
stray
animals
and
mclean
county
humane
society
was
also
involved.
So
I
think
we've
got.
F
D
X
D
N
X
D
Okay
and
at
this
point
before
we
move
on
to
city
manager,
another
discussion
I
would
like
could
have
a
motion
to
suspend
the
rules
and
we
would
allocate
five
minutes
to
wishbone,
so
moved
moved
by
alderman
black
second
by
alderman.
AB
AB
Barr
who's
here
is
an
attorney
with
extensive
experience
in
insurance
law
and
he
attended
at
the
invitation
of
staff
in
order
to
address
those
consent
concerns
so
rather
than
just
hearing
from
people
actually
wishbone
is
largely
at
least
half
of
their
concerns
have
been
met
and
incorporated
into
the
new
ordinance,
but
whether
you
know,
rather
than
just
hearing
from
one
point
of
view,
we'd
ask
that
there'd
be
a
limited
time,
at
least
so
that
the
insurance
concerns
can
be
briefly
discussed
by
someone
we've
invited
to
be
here,
because
we
are
of
the
belief
that
it
was
going
to
be
addressed
tonight.
AB
M
Yeah
absolutely
my
motion
was
intended
to
incorporate,
incorporate
anybody
who
wished
to
speak
on
the
topic.
M
D
D
H
N
E
X
D
Okay,
I
wonder
if
well,
we've
got
three
minutes:
we're
not
set
up
for
five.
Yet,
if
we
we
could
come
forward,
who
were
the
representatives
from
wishbone
or
the
attorneys
that
were
supposed
to
speak
and
and
george,
you
said
we
had
a
representative
here
to
talk
about
the
insurance.
D
Did
you
already
have
report
correct
okay
for
the
gentleman
who
is
coming
here
to
talk
about
the
insurance
and
then
another
representative
of
wishbone?
No,
I'm
the
contract
veterinarian
for
mclean
county
animal
control?
Okay!
Well,
I
think
in
this
in
this
particular
situation,
the
the
intent-
if
I'm
not,
if
I
don't
misunderstand
aldermen
fruits,
is
that
comment
and
concern
to
suspend
the
rules
to
us
to
let
people
who
came
here
who
are
on
the
side?
You
know
concerned
about
this
particular
ordinance
to
express
their
concerns.
D
Okay,
all
right,
okay
well
come
on
forward,
sir
and
then
and
make
tell
you
what
I'll
allocate
two
minutes
and
then
we'll
allocate
three
minutes
to
the
gentleman
behind.
I
am
gary.
AC
N
AC
My
concern,
or
my
I
guess
my
request-
is
that
all
parties,
if
this
goes
to
committee,
I
would
like
to
request
that
all
parties
that
have
interest
and
concerns
regarding
this
that
they
be
offered
the
opportunity
to
to
speak
and
give
their
perceptions.
AC
D
W
Hello
council,
my
name
is
kerry.
Barr
address
is
812
east
elm
street
in
bloomington.
My
experience
in
the
insurance
end
of
it
has
been
at
the
claim
side
of
it,
and
I've
been
in
doing
that
for
about
30
years
here
in
town
for
several
different
insurance
carriers.
W
I
think
this
situation
needs
more
time
than
the
two
or
three
minutes
that
I
could
do
any
justice
to
the
topic
right
now.
What
I'd
be
willing
to
do
is
meet
with
the
committee
at
any
time
and
spend
as
much
time
as
they
want,
but
I
was
requested
to
talk
about
the
issue
of
is
this
insurance
available
and
if
it's
available,
what
would
it
cost?
So
I
could
be
happy
to
talk
to
the
committee
if
they
would
contact
me
I'll
talk
to
george,
give
him
my
phone
and
address
well.
C
Tina
vicknell,
marlette,
okay,
okay,
I'm
the
owner
of
two
vicious
dogs
that
have
been
deemed
for
the
bloomington
normal.
I
want
to
know
if
those
rules
change
if
this
goes
to
vote
for
the
rules
that
I
already
have
to
abide
by.
Does
it
change,
or
am
I
already
going
to
be
grandfathered
under
the
old
balls
with
you
guys.
D
Well,
we
can
our
legal
counsel,
george
boyle,
can
you
answer
that
essentially.
C
D
I
think
ma'am,
these
are
the
specific
things
I
think
we're
gonna
we'll
need
to
to
deal
with
in
the
committee
and
we're
gonna
need
to
deal
with
in
the
next
account
or
two
council
meetings
from
now
when
we
actually
handle
this,
because
I
mean
we
could
go
with
a
specific
case
or
specific
situation,
and
I
don't
think
that's
appropriate
right
now
for
for
the
for
a
city
council
business
meeting
to
go.
If
for
specific
issues
that
you
might
have
with
specific
dogs,
I.
D
C
D
You
can
you
can
certainly
speak
next
time.
You
can
come
to
the
mayoral
open
house.
I
have
them
every
every
friday,
before
every
city
council
meeting
and
from
4
to
5,
30
you're
welcome
to
come,
and
we
can
talk
to
it.
I'll
talk
to
you
more
detail
about
that
and
follow
up.
Okay.
Thank
you
right
now
we
move
back
to
what.
Where
are
we
in
terms
of
our
vote?
I'm
sorry
in.
D
We
need
a
mission
to
return.
Thank
you
so
much
moved
by
member
stage
at
ultimate
stage.
Second,
by
alderman,
freud,
all
in
favor
signify,
saying
aye,
aye
all
right
opposed,
so
we're
we're
back
into
session.
U
Mayor
just
to
reiterate,
we
do
have
the
next
public
safety
committee
meeting
is
june.
13Th
five
o'clock
here
in
the
city
council
chamber,
so
folks
from
the
humanitarian
groups,
the
insurance
group,
the
the
county
veterinarian,
should
not
be
any
misunderstanding
as
to
when
that
time
will
be
available
to
come
and
bring
public
comment
to
to
the
committee
that
we
can
then
correct
to
the
console
june.
13Th
5
o'clock,
5
o'clock
and
we
practice
we'd
be
pleased
to
devote
the
whole
hour
to
that.
D
If
that's
needed,
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that
and
also
then
the
the
next
mayoral
open
house
would
be.
What
would
the
date
on
that
be
the
14th
of
the
day
after
so
they'll
be
the
13th
and
then
the
14th
prior
to
the
june
17th,
I
guess,
would
be
city
council
meeting.
Do
I
have
the
dates
right?
No,
the
10th,
oh!
So
it's
even
sooner
than
that
june
7th
june
7th
from
4
to
5
30
right
here
in
the
council
chambers.
D
V
When
I
came
in
it's
good
to
be
back,
I
did
want
to
just
make
reference
to
one
of
the
documents
we
attached
to
the
council
questions
comments,
staff
response,
there's
a
document
that
it
was
my
recollection
we
sent
to
the
council.
I
think
it
was
maybe
last
year
what
you
have
attached
to,
that
is
a
document
that
says
part
signage
by
developers
status
report.
V
How
did
we
either
acquire
them
or
will
acquire
them
what's
the
basis
for
those
agreements,
but
then
also
to
give
you
some
idea
of
the
type
of
signage
at
this
point
in
time?
That's
as
far
as
we
have
taken
the
particular
issue
of
trying
to
change
how
developers
refer
to
future
part
sites,
you
know
some
of
the
questions
I
saw
the
council
members
alderman
raised
was
how
do
we
kind
of
inform
these
developers
that
there's
no
likelihood
in
the
near
future
that
there
could
be
a
park
site
approved
for
funding?
V
On
the
other
hand,
we've
got
to
keep
in
mind
that
this
council
cannot
bind
future
councils
as
to
when
they
might
appropriate
money
for
future
park
sites,
and
some
of
these
particular
tracks
do
go
back
to
annexation
agreements
so
on
and
so
forth.
I
think
we'd
all
agree
that
I
think
one
of
the
problems
in
the
past
is
that
sometimes
realtors
developers
or
others
have
sometimes
given
incorrect
information
as
to
when
to
expect
a
undeveloped
tract
of
land
to
be
developed
there.
V
There
is
tonight,
I'm
not
here
to
kind
of
provide
to
you
any
kind
of
so-called
implementation
plan
of
how
we
can
address
that
problem
going
forward.
I
do
want
to
bring
this
to
your
attention
and
ask
if
you
could
please
email,
you
email
to
me
any
particular
questions
thoughts.
You
might
have
going
forward.
I
have
spoken
to
our
legal
counsel
and
and
we're
going
to
just
address
this
issue.
What
can
we
do
even
with
some
of
these
existing
properties
and
as
you'll
see
some
of
them
developers
have
put
up
signage?
V
V
What
can't
we
do,
you
know,
etc
before
we
maybe
address
that
again
in
one
of
the
alder
manic
committees,
and
I
think
that
would
maybe
be
the
the
appropriate
forum
to
discuss
this
further
of.
What's
the
next
step,
if
anything
to
try
and
change,
you
know
that
sometimes
incorrect
communications,
that's
going
on
giving
property
owners
unrealistic
expectations
when
they
may
see
a
particular
undeveloped
tract
of
land
developed.
D
Thank
you
very
much
given
the
the
hour.
I
will
be
very
brief.
Just
as
some
updates
we
did
have
the.
As
I
mentioned
a
few
minutes
ago.
Our
second
mayoral
open
house
this
past
friday,
and
we
had
about
15
people,
not
quite
as
many
as
the
first
time
around,
but
we
had
pretty
robust
discussion.
Almost
none
of
it
had
to
do
with
the
items
that
we
were
dealing
with
this
evening,
but
that
was
okay,
because
we
got
to
ask
lots
of
different
questions.
I
learned
a
fair
amount
too.
D
A
gentleman
came
in
with
grass
in
his
hand,
and
he
made
it
quite
clear
that
there
that
his
neighbor
had
not
mowed
his
grass
in
quite
some
time
and
barb
atkins.
Thank
goodness.
She
was
there
because
she
knew
exactly
what
was
going
to
happen
and
when-
and
I
think
he
was
at
least
he
knew
we
were
responsive
and-
and
that
happened
so
we
had
wide-ranging
discussions,
and
I
certainly
invite
you
all
to
join
us
from
4
to
5
30..
Any
the
next
time
will
be
june
7th.
I
was
just
corrected.
D
D
We
are
making
some
progress
on
declassifying
minutes,
and
so
we
again
want
to
make
sure
that
we
as
much
as
possible
make
it
clear
that
this
is
your
city
hall,
and
you
know
you
should
have
access
to
us
and
your
documents
and
know
what's
going
on
beyond
that,
we
are
making
some
progress
in
perhaps
at
some
point
in
the
summer,
perhaps
early
summer,
bringing
a
downtown
revitalization
plan
to
the
council
minus
the
things
that
are
perhaps
the
most
controversial.
D
We
do
our
continuing
discussions
about
some
improvements
in
capital
projects
and
infrastructure,
including
the
bun
street
extension
hamilton,
road
extension
and
some
of
the
fox
creek
extension,
so
there's
fox
creek
ridge.
So
there
are
many
things
that
we're
moving
on.
I've
had
continued
to
have
a
variety
of
conversations
with
our
aldermen
and
the
public
finance
committee
and
rob
fazzini
as
well.
Who
knows
finance
better
than
I
and
deputy
city
manager,
barb,
atkins
and
david
hales
on
our
pensions
and
having
a
budget
model
that
funds
pensions?
D
It'll
be
a
few
months
down
the
line,
but
we
will
have
a
program
to
adequately
fund
our
pensions
and
beyond
that,
I'm
meeting
the
next
week
with
alderman
sage
and
alderwoman
schmidt
who've
done
considerable
work
on
helping
to
give
good
data
and
information
on
our
board
and
commissions
and
vacancies
and
expired
terms
and
we're
going
to
have
a
a
wide,
ranging
discussion
about
what
we
can
do
to
help
improve
that
as
we
go
forward
and
they've
done
great
work,
and
I
look
forward
to
that
meeting
next
week.
Those
are
some
of
the
latest.
D
O
Thank
you
mayor
and
let
me
just
change
gears
a
little
bit
and
hitchhike
a
little
bit
on
david's
comment
with
regard
to
the
developers
and
so
forth.
I
think
during
our
campaign
season
we
realized
that
many
of
us
met
with
the
bloomington-normal
association
of
realtors.
Many
of
us
know
they
have
a
very
active
government
affairs
committee,
tell.
O
D
O
O
I
think
my
other
comment
with
regard
to
suspension
of
rules.
I
think
we
all
kind
of
were
caught
off
guard
tonight,
a
little
bit
by
the
amount
of
time
that
was
out
loud.
I
am
very
respectful
of
the
time
we
did
provide.
I
support
it.
I
voted
for
it.
I
suspect
that
if
we'd
taken
that
vote
60
minutes
earlier,
it
might
have
been
a
similar
vote.
So
I'm
not
trying
to
discourage
public
input.
O
I'm
just
suggesting
that
when
we
are
the
first
hearing
body,
it's
not
done
in
committee,
it's
not
done
in
a
planning,
commission
or
so
forth.
Then
we're
going
to
have
to
accept
you
know
some
time
and
I
know
we're
trying
to
shorten
our
meetings.
We've
made
a
lot
of
progress,
but
if
we're
the
first
hearing
body,
we
have
to
realize
that
time
will
be
added
to
the
knights
agenda.
So
thank.
D
You,
if
I
might
just
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
felt
like
we
needed
to
discuss
this,
is
because
it
went
very
quickly.
Had
I
known
it
was
going
to
come
up.
I
would
have
made
comments
in
the
main
rural
remarks
two
weeks
ago.
I
wasn't
quite
sure
that
it
was
going
to
come
up.
It
wasn't
until
the
next
night
after
that.
D
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why,
if
I
aired
tonight,
it
was
trying
to
be
on
the
side
of
letting
as
many
questions
come
out
and
letting
participants
talk
with
no
real
time
limits
right
so
again
again,
if
I
air
to
in
the
future,
I
will
only
err
on
that
side.
If
this
is
the
first
time
something's
coming
to
us
alderman
sage,.
X
Thank
you
real
quick.
I
have
two,
I
think
just
maybe
process
type
things.
One
is
on
the
suspension
of
the
rules
regarding
the
dog
ordinance.
I
I
guess
I'm
while
I'm
concerned
with
when
people
come
to
a
meeting,
thinking
that
we're
going
to
discuss
something.
I'm
more
concerned
with
us
discussing
something
at
a
meeting
knowing
there'll
be
a
future
opportunity
at
a
committee
meeting
and
people.
You
know
people
are
here,
maybe
not
all
the
elder
men
hear
it
or
they
think
they
were
heard.
So
then
they
don't
come
to
the
committee
meeting.
X
I
just
think
we
have
an
issue
we
need
to.
Let
people
know
okay.
This
is
when
we're
going
to
have
the
time
set
aside
for
everyone
to
come
and
speak
on
something,
and
I
thought
when
we
were
going
down
the
committee
road.
You
know
some
one
of
the
things
we
had
talked
about
before
is
sometimes
we
have
these
issues
that
really
do
warrant
a
public
hearing
and
that's
not
always
best
done
in
the
middle
of
a
council
meeting.
That's
gone
on.
X
X
So
you
know
I'm
just
saying
we
might
want
to
think
proactively
and
put
aside
those
hearing
times
if
it's
at
the
committee,
if
that's
you
know,
committee
level
or
some
other
time,
and
then
that
way,
that's
the
designated
time
and
I
think
it
just
gets
a
little
bit
unclear
when
we
try
to
do
it
on
the
fly.
Although
I
know
we
have
good
intentions,
we
want
people
to
have
their
voices
heard.
The
second
part
on
the
process,
too,
was
just
with
regard
to
our
discussion
on
the
earlier
item.
X
X
If
it's
a
minute,
it's
a
minute,
if
it's
three,
it's
three,
if
it's
25,
it's
25,
whatever
I'll
prepare
my
remarks
I'll
prepare
the
you
know
what
I
have
to
share
if
I
have
anything
to
share
for
the
set
amount
of
time
that
I'm
given,
but
then
that
way
at
least
everyone
that
that
needs
the
opportunity
to
speak.
Has
it
for
that
set
amount
of
time
that
could
extend
to
the
public
as
well,
so
that
when
they
come
to
address
us,
they
can
prepare
themselves
for
that
set
amount
of
time.
F
Yes,
thanks.
We
certainly
suspended
the
rules
tonight,
something
that
I've
always
been
a
fan
of,
allowing
our
citizens
to
speak,
and
I
certainly
hope
that
now
we'll
let
others
speak
who
come
to
speak,
because
I
think
I
agree
with
everyone
who
said
they
take
in
their
time
on
the
time
issue.
You
know
we're
performing
a
specific
function
up
here
and
I
don't
think
that
it's
proper
for
elected
officials
attempting
to
vote
properly
necessarily
be
constricted.
F
I
apologize
if
I
talk
too
long
tonight.
I
am
sorry,
but
I
do
think
that
the
7a
I
had
to
chuckle
a
little
bit
at
a
comment.
I
heard
that
gee
there's
not
much
on
the
agenda.
I
think
7a
is
really
a
very
groundbreaking
ordinance.
I
think
it
cuts
to
the
chase
of
every
single
thing
we
do.
I
think
it
definitely
talks
about
church
and
state
of
all
the
nonprofits.
We
support.
I
don't
think
we've
ever
been
approached
by
a
non-profit.
F
That
is,
you
know,
openly
talking
about
their
faith
and
how
they're
going
to
use
their
faith
in
the
program
and-
and
I
think,
it's
critically
critically
important-
we're
sworn
to
do
one
thing
and
that
is
to
defend
the
constitution,
and
I
think
this.
I
think
this
is
an
issue
that
every
citizen
in
this
town
should
think
about.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
twenty
one
thousand
dollars.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
merit
of
the
program.
F
Y
I'm
sorry,
oh,
go
ahead,
go
ahead!
Okay!
Well
I
I
had
something
rather
simple,
but
I
I
wanted
to
say
that
ultimate
freud
stole
my
thunder
earlier
about
taxes,
because
that
was
a
comment
that
I
wanted
to
make.
But
in
looking
at
the
assessor's
report,
there
is
actually
a
pretty
good
story
to
be
told,
and
I'm
reminded
of
it
when
I
I
open
up
my
own
tax
bill
and
realize
that
the
aggregate
of
all
the
the
levy
decreases
is
is
actually
pretty
sizable,
so
I
you
know
is
listening
david.
Y
Maybe
that
would
be
a
good
story
to
you
know
to
to
discuss.
U
Two
quick
items
and
probably
more
operational
in
nature
because
and
again
this
is
just
our
our
second
meeting
with
you
as
mayor
in
regards
to
suspension
of
the
rules,
I
think,
as
a
council,
we
spent
a
fair
amount
of
time
talking
about
that
last
year.
That's
a
settled
issue
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
now.
If
we
want
to
vote
again
as
a
council,
we
can
do
that.
U
I,
I
wouldn't
anticipate
there's
majority
support
to
undo
kind
of
the
process
and
procedures
we've
put
into
place
when
we
revamped
our
meetings
last
year,
but
if
there
is
certainly
if
their
majority
support
is
there,
we
we
need
to
revisit
that.
As
far
as
I'm
concerned,
that's
a
settled
issue
and
then,
secondly,
and
again
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
change
in
in
in
how
you
facilitate
the
the
meetings
mayor,
and
that
is,
I
think,
it's
really
important-
that
we
remember
to
use
our
microphones
when
we're
speaking.
U
I
know
I've
set
up
here
for
the
last
six
years
having
my
microphone
turned
on
for
me,
and
so
it's
different
to
have
to
to
you
know,
operate
my
own
microphone,
but
I
think
for
purposes
of
of
clarity,
of
understanding
of
comments
and
votes
for
people
in
a
large
room,
as
well
as
the
recording
of
our
votes.
People
need
to
make
sure
that
their
microphones
are
turned
on,
and
we
can
just
help
remind
each
other
to
do
that
going
forward
and
again
it's
just
something
new.
D
When
scott's
brawls
was,
he
walked
me
through
both
the
the
forums
of
this
and
I
said,
there's
that
form
or
there's
lise
faire,
I'm
for
laissez-faire
yeah.
U
U
D
D
M
I'm
going
to
yield
my
time.
Okay,
did
I
miss
my
shot?
Mr
mayor,
sorry,
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
old
roman
stearns.
I
have
been
part
of
these
conversations.
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
a
big
proponent
of
is
the
separation
of
church
and
state,
and
we
first
started
having
these
discussions.
M
I
I
expressed
some
of
the
concerns
that
you
expressed
and
whereas,
as
the
program
developed
as
the
discussion
moved
forward,
the
intent
wasn't
so
much
of
missionary
work
as
it
was
of
teaching
at-risk
youth
trade
skills
that
will
be
marketable
in
in
the
in
the
real
world,
and
that's
what
my
support
I
I
couldn't
put
had
the
pillow
with
the
idea
of
using
taxpayer
dollars
to
fund
a
a
missionary
type
program.
M
However,
in
this
case,
looking
at
the
the
details
in
the
program
as
they've
been
flushed
out,
it's
not
a
you
know.
Spending
time
with
you
know,
discussing
discussing
religion,
bible
study,
any
of
that.
It's
about
teaching
kids,
getting
them
off
the
street,
giving
them
a
skill
that
they
can
use
that
will
make
them
productive
members
of
society
moving
forward.
Yeah
just
want
to
clarify
that.
D
We
really
you
know
in
terms
of
we
could
go
a
long
way,
whether
you
agree
with
or
disagree
with
the
the
bush
justice
department
in
2003.
I
believe
it
was
had
a
pretty
clear,
broad
decision
on
church
and
state
you
can.
You
can
do
a
lot
of
things
that,
frankly,
would
really
concern
me
as
long
as
you
have
secular
purposes
but
anyway,
but
that
is
an
issue.
So
I
think
at
this
point,
do
we
have
any
one
last
one.
D
D
In
fact,
this
isn't
really
a
faith-based
initiative,
but
it's
got
some
religious
overtones.
We
could
have
gone
much
further
on
that
continuum
and
still
been
okay
constitutionally.
Okay,
anyway,
anything
else
I
didn't
have
my
glasses,
and
I
think
at
this
point
all
we
really
need
to
have
is
a
motion
to
adjourn.
So
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
okay
motion
by
all
the
women
mcdade
second
by
alderman
black,
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye.
Those
opposed
can
stay.
Aye.