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June 9, 2014 - City Council Meeting
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A
B
C
C
And
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
with
a
public
comment
just
that
everyone
knows
that
our
our
new
practices,
we
would
do
public
comment
at
every
meeting
that
we,
the
regular
meeting
where
we're
taking
action
and
each
member
of
the
public
has
up
to
three
minutes
and
we're
going
to
start
with
mr
gary
johnson
who's
in
the
audience.
Thank
you
and
if
you'd
please
come
forward,
and
just
mention
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Thank
you.
G
G
G
G
H
Me
for
my
dress,
but
I
didn't
have
time
to
go
change.
As
you
all
know,
my
name's
carl
woodward,
I'm
at
1707,
clearwater
avenue
and
I'm
here
tonight
I've
been
trying
to
get
two
questions
answered
two
numbers
for
two
years
and
have
failed
your
staff.
Your
employees
won't
respond,
as
mr
fazzini
well
knows,
when
the
board
of
directors,
which
is
what
I
consider
you
folks
up
here,
want
something
the
employees
of
the
company
need
to
do
it
either
in
bloomington
or
in
government.
It
isn't
that
way.
H
H
I
want
to
know
how
much
was
paid
last
fiscal
year
against
the
hundred
and
some
million
dollars
that
you
folks
sitting
at
this
table
have
allowed
to
happen.
I
think
you
would
want
to
know
the
number
so
there's
two
questions
here.
Does
somebody
in
the
city
know
it
and
they
don't
want
to?
Let
people
know,
are
they
so
incompetent?
They
don't
know
what
the
number
is.
I
guarantee
you,
mr
fassini,
if
it
was
at
his
bank
would
have
known
this
reflects
on
you
as
a
group.
H
H
I've
asked
face
to
face
with
emails
for
three
months
and
I
get
no
response
defend
that
who's,
the
customer
for
the
city,
the
citizens,
shouldn't
you
ask
as
long
as
they're
reasonable
questions.
Don't
you
folks
want
to
know
what
these
pension
numbers
are?
If
you
don't
realize
you
should
know
them,
you
shouldn't
be
up
sitting
up
here.
H
Do
you
folks
have
standards
for
your
employees,
at
least
the
management
employees,
because
I've
dealt
with
three
or
four
of
your
department
managers
and
they're,
a
plus
people
you're
lucky
to
have
them,
so
some
are
super.
Some
are
irresponsive.
Don't
respond.
Is
that,
okay
with
you
folks,
I
think
it
must
be.
H
H
I
just
like
to
see
you
see
that
the
city
management
team,
all
of
it
not
part
of
it,
is
responsive
to
you
and
the
citizens
and
I'd
sure
like
to
have
those
numbers
some
year.
That's
all!
I
have
I'm
sorry.
If
I
insulted
anybody,
I'm
trying
to
get
your
attention
and
it's
obvious.
I've
failed
for
three
years.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
I
Federal
war
relics
like
the
miller
park
tank
have
federal
guardianship
in
perpetuity
which
makes
the
tank,
in
effect
a
federal
landmark,
which
means
that
no
one
has
the
right
to
do
anything.
They
want
to
do
with
it,
including
something
dumb
like
welding,
a
pipe
onto
it,
which
is
the
condition
it's
in
now.
I
J
J
J
I
was
told
that
we
were,
and
I
think
we
were
all
told,
that
the
positions
we
were
looking
at
were
that
were
put
on
the
wish
list.
If
you
will
we're
not
going
to
come
about,
however,
in
this
sunday's
paper,
which
I
hold
in
my
little
nicotine
stained
hands
here,
there's
12
full-time
positions
for
the
city
of
bloomington.
J
J
Folks,
we've
already
got
a
hell
of
an
issue
with
pensions.
I
think
I've
talked
enough
about
that
that
most
everybody
is
aware
of
my
thoughts.
Regarding
that
I
guess
we
want
to
try
and
bring
our
non-police
and
fire
pension
issue
up
and
make
it
worse,
because
that's
what
we're
doing
we're
adding
to
the
mess
that's
already
there
and
the
reason
why
we're
adding
to
it
is
because
we
can
say
we
don't
know
well,
I
am
in
wholehearted
agreement
with
carl.
I
think.
J
J
C
Actually,
this
former
student
of
mine,
I
should
have
his
name
down
properly
here
and
brady
zimmer
and
whereas
the
team
exemplified
hard
work
and
team
spirit
and
continued
the
strong
tradition
of
titan
athletic
success.
Therefore,
I
terry
renner,
mayor
of
the
city
of
bloomington
illinois,
do
hereby
proclaim
june
9th
2014
as
illinois
wesleyan
university
men's
basketball
final
four
day
and
a
pride
a
day
of
pride
and
celebration
by
the
entire
community
of
bloomington
illinois.
K
C
C
L
C
The
the
only
difficulty
that
we
have
is
just
in
terms
of
procedures.
We
can
pull
this
from
the
consent
agenda
and
I've
maybe
looked
to
my
our
corporate
council.
Can
we
have
a
suspension
of
the
rules
and
then
consider
it
after
the
munich
discussion?
Okay.
Well,
in
the
short
run,
let's
have
you
pull
that
either
seven,
which
I'm
sorry
pull
7d
7d
the.
C
C
F
C
C
C
C
We
can
we
can
vote
specifically
on
yours.
The
reason
why
alderman
lauer,
we're
in
since
asking
for
a
suspension
of
the
rules
which
requires
two-thirds
vote
is
because
alderman
lauer
wanted
us
to
just
have
the
immune
information
presented.
If
I'm
not.
If
I'm
saying
you
and
that
this
would,
it
would
make
more
sense
to
vote
on
on.
I
that
item
7d
after
we've
had
the
munis
presentation.
So,
but
if
you
have
specific
concerns
about
7f,
then
okay,
you
have
the
floor.
M
M
N
Firm
we're
paying
for
it's
proposed.
We
enter
into
a
contract
that
have
walker,
restoration
consultants,
do
a
number
of
things.
They
will
actually
prepare
the
plans.
The
specifications
bidding
documents
so
that
we
can
then
let
take
bids
for
the
actual
repair.
The
pepsi
ice
center
garage
they'll
help
us
in
evaluating
those
bids,
helping
making
recommendation
and
then
lastly,
they'll
also
provide
construction
observation
services
during
the
construction
period
to
help
ensure
that
everything
conforms
with
the
plans.
If
any
change
orders
are
necessary,
they'll
advise
on
those
as
well.
M
N
N
So
we
need
the
detailed
plans
and
specifications,
so
contractors
can
submit
a
bid
right
now.
Our
cost
estimate
is
between
1.2
to
1.5
million,
we're
not
going
to
know
for
sure
until
those
bids
come
in
and
the
contractors
after
reviewing
the
plans
looking
at
the
structure
say,
here's
what
they
would
bid
to
actually
complete
all
the
repairs.
N
Oh
you
can't
there
there's
no
detailed
plans.
Specifications
to
put
out
there,
you
know
you'd
be
going
into
a
big
situation.
Blind
and
bidders
would
have
nothing
really
to
rely
on
that
they
could
actually
put
together
cost
estimates
as
to
what
would
nest.
What
will
have
to
be
done?
You
know
to
make
the
repairs.
M
Thank
you
just
a
side
question,
and
this
may
not
be
directly.
You
know
and
I
apologize,
but
are
we
looking
at
the
same
considerations?
Are
we
making
the
same
kind
of
evaluation
with
the
arena,
the
coliseum
construction
itself,
given
that
I
think
it
was
constructed
in
a
similar
manner
and
by
perhaps
the
same
firm,
I'm
not
sure
about
that.
But
are
we
looking
at
all
at
the
structural
integrity
therein
to
just
while
we're
doing
all
this.
N
I
I
think,
as
I
as
I
think
I
understand
your
question
as
the
the
individual
from
walker
restoration,
con
consultants
as
well
as
greg
meader
special
outside
counsel.
The
the
construction
design
of
the
parking
garage
is
different
in
many
ways
from
the
coliseum
and
their
precast
panels
that
were
erected.
N
C
C
C
C
C
Now
we
move
right
along
to
our
first
item
of
our
regular
agenda
item
8a
and
we've
got
two
pieces
to
this.
There's
a
text
amendment
regarding
the
structure
of
the
city
legal
department,
an
agreement
with
sterling
northrop
hannah
cullen
and
cochran
to
provide
legal
services.
There
is
we've
got
again.
These
are
our
targets,
legal
services,
structure
and
text.
Amendment
is
10
minutes
legal
services
agreement
itself,
10
minutes,
so
approximately
20
minutes
is
our
our
target
for
this
discussion.
C
We
did
discuss
this
because
some
of
this
had
to
do
with
staff
and
personnel
evaluation
in
our
executive
session
and
now
we're
in
open
session
to
mention
this.
Just
there
were
some
a
few
emails
I
think
and
some
misconceptions
out
there,
but
I
think
I'm
before
I
turn
it
over
to
the
city
manager.
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
this
this
came
from
the
city
manager.
This
was
a
a
proposal
from
the
city
manager,
not
the
the
firm
or
mr
jeff
jurgens.
C
This
was
a
proposal
to
the
council
and
the
the
total
restructuring
would
actually
save
the
city
somewhere.
That
estimate
would
be
somewhere
around
100
to
150
000
in
total
legal
fees,
because
it's
it's
a
little
more
complicated.
I
think
than
people
may
have
understood
perhaps
from
the
article
in
the
pantograph,
and
I
will
turn
this
over
to
mr
hales.
Go
ahead.
N
And
just
so,
you
know,
through
my
career,
I've
worked
probably
mostly
with
outside
legal
counsel,
who
has
been
both
city
attorney
and
providing
many
of
the
services.
I've
also
dealt
with
in-house
legal
counsel,
and
I
have
my
own
preferences
and
I'll
get
into
some
of
those
per
se,
but
what
we
were
able
to
do
after
I
talked
with
many
different
law
firms,
individual
attorneys,
so
on
and
so
forth.
I
was
very
fortunate
to
to
have
discussions
with
jeff
jurgens.
N
He
works
for
us,
a
a
law
firm,
sorely
northrop
hannah,
colin
and
cochran,
who
the
city
of
bloomington
has
had
some
interaction
with
over
the
last
five
years.
Some
of
you
may
recall
some
interaction
we
had
having
them
review
some
of
the
legal
work.
Jeff
also
has
a
history
of
working
for
a
while,
with
ansel
and
glink,
a
very
renowned
law
firm
in
illinois
that
does
a
lot
of
municipal
law
experience.
N
As
I
started
to
focus
in
on
asking
jeff
to
serve
as
interim
corporate
council,
I
went
to
the
law
firm
of
clark,
baird
smith,
out
of
chicago,
and
I
had
them
draft
a
legal
agreement
so
that
we
could
engage
jeff
jurgens
as
interim
corporate
council.
I
think
that's
important,
because
the
same
agreement
is
basically
the
mere
identical
to
what
I'm
bringing
to
you
tonight,
but
with
some
changes
the
scope
of
services
has
changed
a
little
bit
and
some
other
things,
but
the
original
agreement
was
prepared
by
clark
baird
smith.
N
N
So
this
is
an
agreement
that
actually
was
prepared
by
another
firm
reviewed
by
another
firm
recently
and
we
engaged
jeff
during
the
last
four
or
five
months
too.
I
was
also
pursuing
the
recruitment
as
another
alternative
of
a
permanent
corporate
council
that
possibly
could
be
in
house
as
well.
One
thing
I
found
in
talking
with
many
of
the
recruiters
you
can
always
find
a
attorney
when
you
go
out
and
hire
what
is
very,
very
difficult
in
this
day
and
age
is
to
find
a
great
attorney
that
has
strong
depth
in
municipal
law
experience.
N
Most
very
good,
great
municipal
attorneys
usually
are
not
looking
to
change
currently
where
they
reside,
who
are
they
working
for,
but
as
I
continue
to
look
at
both
these
alternatives,
one
thing
not
only
I
found,
but
our
our
our
directors
and
other
staff.
I
know
mayor
renner,
and
many
of
you
is
that
jeff
jergens
has
really
performed
in
a
very
phenomenal
way.
We
have
seen
not
only
greater
productivity
in
getting
additional
legal
work
done
in
a
cost-efficient,
effective
manner.
N
We've
begun
to
address
what
is
really
a
legacy
of
many
many
old
agreements
that
just
have
never
been
addressed
brought
to
closure.
We
have
a
great
need
to
institute
a
number
of
policies.
Procedures
have
a
very
strong
legal
department
that
will
go
to
bat
for
the
city
when
developers
or
other
people
we
contract
with,
don't
follow
through
and
perform
so
one.
I
I
have
really
admired
the
performance
and
what
we
have
seen
in
the
way
of
what
jeff
jurgens
has
brought
to
this
particular
job.
N
As
interim
corporate
council,
I
am
of
the
belief
that
our
interests
can
best
be
served.
We
can
achieve
significant
value
by
contracting,
with
sorely
northrop,
not
only
for
the
services
of
jeff
jurgens,
but
also
angela
fianz
jimenez,
as
you
may
or
may
not
know.
Angela
also
comes
with
about
10
plus
years
of
municipal
law
experience
most
recently
in
the
city
of
springfield.
N
These
two
individuals
will
basically
equate
to
one
full-time
equivalent
position.
Jeff
will
be
here
approximately
three
days
a
week,
angela
two
days
a
week.
They,
together
with
our
two
in-staff
attorneys,
rosalie
dodson
and
george
boyles,
will
be
really
ramping
up
and
raising
the
bar
on
the
legal
services
support
to
our
departments,
to
the
mayor
to
the
council-
and
I
again
don't
want
to
understate
how
important
that
is.
N
N
As
I've
looked
at
the
cost
comparison,
I
think
one
of
the
great
values
that
comes
in
entering
into
a
contract
of
this
nature
is
you're,
not
just
hiring
people
right
out
of
college
or
with
very
limited
municipal
law
experience.
These
two
individuals
have
tremendous
strong
depth
and
municipal
law
experience
they're
coming
hitting
the
ground
running.
They
have
a
high
degree
of
expertise.
Competency
in
this
area,
our
in-house
attorneys
can
can
benefit
by
their
counsel,
their
mentoring
and
and
working
with
them
on
many
of
these
very
complex
projects
going
forward.
N
One
of
our
objectives
in
working
with
jeff
this
next
year
and
angela
is
to
reduce
our
reliance
on
and
need
for
outside
legal
counsel.
As
many
of
you
know,
some
of
the
rates
that
we've
had
to
pay
in
the
past
since
november
for
chicago
law
firms
has
sometimes
been
over
three
hundred
dollars
an
hour.
The
rates
for
jeff
and
angela
are
175
dollars
an
hour.
N
But
what
is
very
hard
to
get
a
handle
on
is
those
long-term
financial
risks
that
the
employer
always
undertakes,
because
when
the
markets
go
through
a
recession
when
expected
rate
of
returns
are
not
achieved.
Who
has
the
risk?
It's
not
the
employee,
it's
the
employer.
That
has
to
make
sure
you
know
those
things
are
covered.
This
is
a
great
example
I
think
of
where
we
will
benefit
by
having
a
so-called
hybrid
example
of
some
outside
contracting,
but
also
some
in-house.
N
With
that
I
just
once
again,
I
feel,
based
on
my
experience
with
other
firms
in
my
other
careers.
Sorely
northrop
has
a
great
reputation
in
central
illinois,
they're
close
to
bloomington.
They
worked
with
many
other
municipal
clients
and,
as
we
begin
to
see
increased
development
activity,
it
is
critical
that
we
have
someone
of
their
caliber
the
depth
of
expertise,
the
competency
to
help
serve
our
increasingly
complex
legal
needs,
and
I'm
very
pleased
tonight
to
recommend
that
you
do
two
things.
N
One
approve
the
ordinance
text
amendment
that
will
allow
the
legal
services
to
be
provided
by
contract
as
well
as
in
house
and
then
also
to
approve
the
agreement
with
sorely
northrop
hannah,
colin
and
cochran
to
allow
jeff,
jurgens
and
angela
faye
and
juventus
to
serve
as
our
two
principal
attorneys
there
and
to
take
the
interim
from
jeff's
title
and
make
him
permanent
corporate
counsel.
As
per
this
agreement,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
C
O
C
C
Actually,
we
need
to
take
them
separately.
I
can
do
this.
We
can
do
it
as
one
motion-
okay,
okay,
you're,
making
that
we
combine
the
ordinance
the
text,
amendment
change
and
the
agreement
and
you're
making
that
motion
for
both
of
those
at
once.
Okay,
is
there
a
second
second
second,
by
alderman,
fazzini?
Okay,
now
excuse
me
who
would
like
to
speak
to
these
items.
All
the
women
stearns,
anyone
else,
lauer,
fazzini,
okay,
we'll,
oh
and
middle
of
one
play
all
right
so
start
with
the
older
woman's
turns.
M
Thank
you
mayor
just
to
comment
on
this.
First
and
foremost,
I
agree.
I
agree
with
so
much
that
city
manager
has
said
first
and
foremost
that
mr
jurgens
has
to
me
really
been
a
an
outstanding
municipal
attorney
and
certainly
deserves
to
remain
here,
because
I
I've
seen
a
lot
of
professionalism
and
expertise
that
the
city
really
truly
needs,
and
I
do
think
that
this
could
solve
a
backlog
of
of
ordinance.
M
My
concern,
though,
is
one:
that's
just
just
structural,
it's
just
something
that
I
would
always
be
concerned
about,
and
that
has
to
do
with
the
with
the
fact
that
we've
done
this
very
very
quickly.
In
fact,
I
really
just
real-
I
kind
of
saw
in
the
paper
and
have
tried
to
understand
this
for
a
while
and
the
fact
that
there
was
no
request
for
quotes
or
an
rfq
put
out,
and
that
just
concerns
me
greatly
and
probably
I
I'm
sure
this
will
pass.
M
L
I
I
echo
her
concern
with
with
the
lack
of
of
shopping
just
a
little
bit,
although
I
also
want
to
let
the
general
public
know
that
mr
jurgens
and
his
firm
do
come
highly
recommended.
We
did
do
a
bit
of
background
outside
the
city.
I
did
some
background.
My
on
my
own
friends
and
constituents
have
recommended
he
and
his
firm
even
prior
to
his
service
in
january,
and
I
also
am
highly
impressed.
L
One
of
the
things
that
I
would
like
to
see,
though,
is
a
monthly
and
a
quarterly
accountability
report
in
terms
of
the
expense
and
the
projects
that
have
been
worked
on
and
then
a
forecast
going
forward
for
both
a
month
and
maybe
a
quarter
as
well.
I
think
it's
just
a
good
management
tool.
Thank
you.
Thank.
Q
I
also
like
the
fact
that
there's
no
pension,
vacation,
sick
leave,
etc
and
that
we're
going
to
have
less
outside
legal
council
needs,
because
his
firm
has
about
35
other
attorneys
that
we
can
go
to
and
have
already
gone
to,
plus
the
ease
of
changing.
If
we
decide
this
isn't
working
is
a
lot
easier
than
if
we
hired
somebody
full
time
with
the
pension
and
all
the
benefits
to
get
out
of
that
would
be
difficult
to
get
out
of
this.
Q
N
Yeah,
I
think,
any
time
you're
talking
about
professional
services,
it
becomes
much
more
problematic.
It
is
so
easy
to
put
out
a
bid
when
you're
just
looking
for
quotes.
You
know
the
cost
of
commodity,
you
know,
and
those
comparisons
are
very
easy.
It
is
much
much
more
difficult
to
to
evaluate
reputation
to
evaluate
character,
integrity
and
what
I
chose
to
do
is
spend
a
lot
more
time,
checking
with
people
behind
the
scenes,
not
in
an
open
public
document,
but
to
find
out
what
has
been
their
track
record.
What
is
their
character
like?
What
has?
N
What
is
their
integrity?
What
have
they
been
able
to
produce?
What
have
been
the
results?
These
are
people
who
have
been
willing
to
speak
privately
confidentially
to
share
with
me
the
the
strengths
and
weaknesses
of
a
numerous
number
of
people.
So
you
know-
and
even
in
talking
with
some
of
the
attorneys
locally
to
again,
to
try
and
find
someone
with
good,
strong
municipal
legal
experience
locally.
N
N
Certainly
be
willing
to
do
so
one
I
have
been
over
the
last
couple
of
months
reviewing
with
jeff
our
existing
expenses,
especially
the
expenses
this
past
year.
That
has
been
part
of
our
discussion.
How
can
we
avoid
some
of
those
costs
going
forward?
So
there's
been
a
lot
of
looking
back
what
has
been
some
of
those
outside
costs?
How
can
we
bring
in
house?
You
know
again
it's
not
hundred
percent,
but
as
many
of
those
as
we
can
and
some
discussion
of
going
forward.
N
How
can
we,
with
a
very
large
workload,
try
to
contain
and
manage
those
costs?
Much
better?
You
know
going
forward
so
as
each
month
we'll
be
reviewing
the
costs,
we're
we're
trying
to
phase
out
many
of
those
outside
contracts
and,
of
course,
some
of
those
are
still
in
progress,
but
that's
going
to
be
our
intent.
It
will
take
a
while
before
some
of
these
outside
and
very
unusual
cases.
N
We've
had
this
past
year
come
to
conclusion,
but
we
will
be
monitoring,
managing
and
looking
at
those
costs
very
closely
each
and
every
month,
so
that
we
can
come
back
and
report
that,
as
I
indicated
you
know,
overall,
our
goal
is
to
stay
within
budget
for
this
next
year.
We
will
be
doing
everything
we
can
to
do
so.
If
we
can-
and
you
got
to
always
keep
in
mind-
you
cannot
always
control
the
lawsuits
you're
going
to
have
the
extraordinary
legal
expenses.
O
Answered
your
question.
Thank
you.
I
have
one
more
question.
One
of
the
things
that
I
I
think
is
always
beneficial
in
having
people
in-house
is
to
be
able
to
preserve
institutional
memory,
and
so,
in
this
case
we're
hiring
people
outside
and
in
terms
of
institutional
memory.
I
know
we'll
have
some
people
in-house,
but
you
know
the
two
will
be
working
on.
You
know.
Different
cases
sometimes
develop
ways
for
them
to
you,
know
to
be
effective
or
how
they
work
on
different
cases.
O
N
First,
I'd
say:
institutional
memory,
while
maybe
important
is
not
a
substitute
for
a
high
performing
a
results,
driven
creative,
innovative
manager
going
forward.
You
could
have
just
continued
on
with
the
status
quo
five
and
a
half
years
ago
and
accept
the
institutional
experience
that
you
had.
You
chose
not
to
do
that.
N
Then
you
know
institutional
memory,
I'm
sorry,
you
know
it
doesn't
carry
any
weight
and
I
think,
as
I've
spoken
to
you
before,
I'm
looking
for
mr
jurgens
and
angela
to
truly
raise
the
bar
on
the
legal
quality
of
legal
services.
We
need
in
this
community
and
it
is
not
the
time
to
bring
on
amateurs
or
people
right
out
of
college.
I
think
this
is
the
time
where
we
need
the
strength
and
the
depth
irregardless,
but
you
got
to
keep
in
mind.
Their
institutional
memory
is
not
just
in
one
community.
N
That's
in
many,
that's
working,
you
know,
and
that
is
invaluable,
as
we've
been
finding
lately
with
people
like
sue,
mclaughlin,
frank
taylor
and
others.
It's
amazing
some
of
the
new
ideas
that
these
people
are
bringing
to
the
table
about
how
we
can
do
our
job
better,
quicker,
faster,
cheaper
by
learning
of
how
others
are
confronting
the
same
problems
that
we
are
at
this
time
and
just
to.
C
Clarify
that
I
mean
we,
we
are
keeping
the
existing
staff
and
I
I
deal
with
george
boyle.
For
example,
george
boyle
and
rosa
lee
are
still
going
to
be
on
staff
and
george.
I
I
deal
with
most
directly,
of
course,
because
of
liquor
issues
several
times
a
week
often,
and
when
I
bring
up
a
bar,
I
mean
george
knows
oh
yeah.
Well
back
in
2009,
we
did
this
in
2000,
then
we
did
this
2012.
We
did
this,
so
we
will
have
that
the
institutional
memory
as
well.
O
C
A
Q
Last
word:
what
we
did
learn
is
that
jeff
has
instituted
meetings
with
the
staff
and
that's
important,
because
then
they
can
share
institutional
knowledge
with
each
other,
but
he
also
will
be
meeting
with
the
city
manager
and
the
mayor
on
a
regular
basis.
So
I
think
it's
going
to
seep
up
and
down
the
institutional
knowledge
going
forward.
Okay,
all
right.
C
C
Okay,
pardon
me
moving
right
along.
We
go
to
item
eight
b,
the
communication
center
console
upgrade
and
fire
department
starcom
subscriber
equipment,
and
this
is
agreement
with
motor
motorola
solutions
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
the
city
manager
and
if
you
want
to
clarify
this
position
or
this
situation,
excuse
me.
N
Mayor
and
council
we're
recommending
tonight
that
you
approve
this
agreement
with
motorola's
solutions
for
a
communication
center
console
upgrade
in
the
total
amount
of
eight
hundred
and
forty
two
thousand
six
hundred
and
seven
dollars.
As
indicated
in
the
backup
report,
the
current
console,
which
was
purchased
in
2005,
is
no
longer.
Will
the
motorola
stop
production
of
this
particular
model
and
coming
within
a
very
short
period
of
time
by
february
2016.
N
Or
in
that
area,
motorola
will
no
longer
service
nor
provide
maintenance
service
on
these.
I
do
have
in
the
audience
tonight
darren
wolf
our
communications
center
manager.
Together,
we
also
have
david
lander
with
motorola
and
jacob
fever,
with
clear
talk.
So
if
there's
any
technical
questions,
you
have
I'm
sure
I
have
staff
support
to
help
answer
any
of
the
questions
you
might
have
on
this
particular
motion
and
what
the
city
is
proposing
to
purchase.
Okay,.
C
C
D
C
D
C
Put
that
as
background
yeah,
just
just
so
that
everyone
understands
we.
I
was
the
chairman
of
the
justice
committee
and
the
vice
chair
of
this
committee
back
in
2003
2004
on
the
county
board,
when
much
to
our
chagrin,
everybody
in
mclean
county
was
going
on
starcom21,
but
city
of
bloomington
decided
to
spend
millions
of
dollars
on
an
outdated
analog
system,
and
they
couldn't
talk
to
everybody
else,
so
that
was
a
bad
move.
I
would
say
I
think
history
has
shown
that
the
cost
estimates
were
by
the
previous
city
manager
were
way
too
rosy.
C
C
M
Thanks
and
I
appreciate
elder
woman
schmidt
bringing
this
up
because
indeed
we
hear
it
often-
and
I
think
it's
a
great
question
and
a
lot
of
the
public
is-
is
asking
it.
I've
asked
it
many
times
and
I'm
sure
many
others
of
you
as
well,
especially
those
who
were
on
the
city
council
at
the
time
that
the
city
of
bloomington
actually
did
leave
matcom.
But
here
here's
a
really
a
couple,
really
simple
questions.
M
R
R
M
M
R
M
M
R
Currently,
we
have
a
vhf
system
in
our
fire
trucks,
and
this
this
proposal
is
to
upgrade
the
subscriber
equipment
to
put
the
fire
department
on
starcom,
so
that
would
involve
purchasing
mobile
and
portable
radios
and
vehicular
repeaters
to
bring
the
fire
department
onto
starcom.
They
would
still
maintain
some
of
their
vhf
system
because
that's
how
they
would
talk
on
the
scene
of
a
fire
or
an
accident
normal
currently
does
a
system
similar
to
what
we're
proposing
is
that
they
have
a
star
com,
talk
group,
and
then
they
do
their
fire
ground
operations
on
vhf.
C
C
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry
the
big
picture,
yeah,
I'm
sorry!
I
I
didn't
see
the
your
light
on
and
I
had
moved
on
in
my
brain.
Sorry,
I
apologize
for
that.
Yes,
I
will
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
city
manager,
david
hales,
to
clarify
a
little
bit
about
the
metcom.
I
think
part
of
it
is
is
right.
We
have
to
have
a
backup
system
anyway,
that
is
the
region
has
to
have
a
backup
system.
So
it's
its
structural
change,
wouldn't
be
terribly
radical.
Even
if
we
rejoined
metcon,
correct.
P
N
N
That
alone
is
going
to
necessitate
that
again.
If,
if
you
do
join
together
rejoin
that
we'll
have
to
have
a
very
sophisticated,
you
know
communication
center,
that
can,
you
know,
start
right
up
and
you
move
all
your
personnel
and
can
immediately
you
know,
or
very
shortly
continue
to
operate.
That
is
something
new
that
we
never
had.
Even
when
we
were
with
matcom
having
that
capability.
It.
N
And
I
think
it
was
their
old
yeah,
their
old
dispatch
center
yeah.
Secondly,
I
do
want
to
just
share
with
you
again
that
we
do
have
a
a
study
that
is
still
still
in
the
process
of
being
developed.
That
looks
at
the
pros
and
cons
of
the
current
separation
to
communication.
Centers,
the
costs
associated
with
that
and
then
also
has
been
put
in
there
well
is
there
cost
savings
of
being
moving
back
together
into
a
joint
as
soon
as
that's
completed?
In
fact,
I
was
just
talking
to
darren.
N
Secondly,
I
think
it's
important
to
point
out
that
you
know.
One
of
the
questions
that
has
to
be
resolved
to
answered
is
even
if
we,
as
a
city,
had
a
desire
to
rejoin
metcom,
would
the
county
and
the
town
allow
us
to
rejoin
them.
We've
got
to
keep
in
mind
that
when
we
left
metcom
it
was
really
a
financial
hardship.
N
So
I
you
know
there's
that
one
and
even
if
they
were
willing
to
consider
what
would
be
the
terms,
the
conditions,
the
governing
policy,
etcetera,
etcetera.
Now
all
that
being
said,
I've
I've
worked
in
cities
where
you've
had
joint
communication,
centers
that
have
served
a
half
million
population,
but
in
many
of
those
situations
you
all
also
had
other
communication
centers
that
could
immediately
you
know
back
up
any
kind
of
entity
in
this
case
in
these
large
values,
valleys
or
up
in
the
chicago
area,
you
have
a
lot
of
redundancy.
N
Unfortunately,
we
don't
have
that
in
central
illinois.
You
can't
just
take
a
peoria
or
champagne
or
a
spring
springfield
and
immediately
have
them
take
over
all
our
communications.
So
so
it
is
unique
there.
But
once
again,
I'm
just
we
will
have
that
report
to
bring
back
and
to
share
with
you
and
then
see
how
the
council
would
like
to
proceed
with
that
information,
because
we've
also
want
to
share
that
with
the
town
of
normal
in
the
county.
N
C
On
that
note
that
I
I
talk
maybe
about
every
third
or
fourth
meeting
I
have
with
chris
coos,
and
we
talk
about
perhaps
consolidating
some
of
our
efforts
on
the
northeast
part
of
bloomington
there's
still
bad
blood.
They
don't
trust
us
that
I
don't.
I
don't
mean
chris
coos,
I
mean
some
of
the
the
line
staff
still
don't
trust
the
city
of
bloomington
based
on
this,
and
I
know
how
traumatic
it
was
from
the
standpoint
on
the
county
side.
So
anyway,
I'm
sorry
all.
D
N
No,
it's
not
personnel,
but
it's
everything
but
personnel.
So
again,
if,
if
metcom
went
down,
you'd
have
to
have
the
ability
to
move
those
people
to
a
backup
communication
center
so
especially
like,
if
a
tornado
hit
that
our
comm
center
would
have
to
con
function.
Until
who
knows
when
you
know
the
original
could
be
put
back
in
service,
so
that
is
something
current
state
officials
are
looking
for.
N
N
M
N
Well
again,
we're
recommending
we
do
it
now,
because
the
sooner
we
don't
want
to
be
up
against
the
deadline
and
go
past
that
deadline
and
be
in
a
situation
where
we
could
be
passing.
You
know
the
point
of
no
return
and,
as
we
were
looking
at
our
capital
requests,
it
really
made
sense
to
do
that
this
year.
Even
with
this
you
know
making
this
purchase
today.
I
think
darren
it's
going
to
take
how
many
months,
probably
before
everything's
fully
operational,
is
that
sixth.
C
If
we
move
ahead-
and
it's
approved
this
evening-
correct
okay,
other
follow-up,
judy,
okay,
anyone
else,
okay,
now
we
can-
and
I
did
clear
the
results.
I
think
a
few
people
voted
already.
I
slurred
the
results
again.
My
apologies.
If
you'd
kindly
vote
on
this
now,
I
would
be
in
favor
of
this
agreement.
Of
course,.
E
N
Thank
you
mayor.
I
I
think
some
of
you
have
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
libby
al.
She
is
the
local
representative
who
this
past
year
has
been
assisting
us
as
an
official
and
representative
of
the
national
development
council.
As
indicated
in
this
backup
report,
ndc
is
a
non-profit
community
economic
development
organization
that
has
been
assisting
cities
throughout
the
nation.
N
We
have
tried
to
put
in
here
some
of
the
very
significant
things
they've
accomplished.
Success
they've
had
around
the
nation,
but
I
think
coming
back
to
bloomington.
One
thing
that
we
have
really
relied
on
the
ndc
is
do
some
of
the
heavy
lifting
when
we
look
at
and
in
a
very
technical
way,
evaluate
the
financial
vetting
of
in
applicants
who
want
to
seek
incentives
from
the
city,
whether
they
be
property,
tax
abatement,
sales,
tax,
abatements,
etc.
You
might
recall
that
the
115
east
monroe
ashley
furniture
recently
some
projects
on
washington.
N
N
C
F
M
S
M
Are
but
dan,
and
we
also
we
have
the
edc-
that
we,
I
believe,
fund
in
the
in
the
neighborhood
of
ninety
two
hundred
thousand
per
year-
is
that
right
hundred
thousand
thank
you?
We
did
have
justine
and
she's
she's
now
leaving
us,
which
I
don't
believe,
has
anyone
been
hired
or
are
we
simply
planning
to
replace
justine
he'll.
N
M
City,
so
we
have
edc,
we
have
the
economic
development
coordinator.
Is
that
correct
and
then
we're
going
to
have
this
as
well?
In
addition,
is
that
right,
yes,
and-
and
this
is
for
you
justine
now-
my
understanding
reading
through
this
is
that
this
organization
has
already
provided
some
services.
You
know
we've
already
re,
so
I'm
curious
who's.
Who
was
paying,
I
mean.
How
did
we
pay
for
that?
What
they've
all
you
know,
we've
already
used
them
for
some
consulting
type
thing.
How
did
we
pay
for
that.
N
Let
me
answer
that
we
built
into
the
last
year's
budget
funding
for
this
organization
and
that
was
contained
in
the
budget
as
well.
It's
been
on
a
month-to-month
basis,
so
it
has
it.
We
were
trying.
It
was
a
pilot
program
to
you
know,
try
them
out
see
if
it's
something
we
felt
would
had
some
value
and
based
on
that
pilot
program,
we
then
decided
we
wanted
to
go
to
a
full
year
and
we
included
this
money
in
the
fiscal
year
2015
budget,
which
the
council
approved
with
this
funding
level.
M
T
F
M
T
Didn't
we
didn't
have
anyone
who
had
the
capabilities
to
really
dig
in
and
evaluate
the
financial
performance
and
budgets
of
a
developer
not
only
based
on
the
technical
background,
but
an
expertise,
but
also
because
that
information
is
proprietary?
And
if
someone
on
staff
were
to
obtain
that
it
might
be
subject
to
foia?
And
we
need
to
be
able
to
respect
those
and
have
a
financial
third
party,
unbiased
individual.
Who
can
give
us
their
assessment
without
jeopardizing
that
private
entity.
M
T
There
are
extensive
details
that
are
found
within
there
that
are
provided
by
the
developers
and
such
and
all
of
that
information
is
available
and
was
presented
to
the
council
in
public
to
make
sure
that
the
process
was
transparent.
But
staff
did
not
review
the
detailed
financial
statements
from
the
developers.
M
I
understand
that
I
understand
that,
but
we
don't
have
to
when
we're
when
there's
always
confidentiality
when
you're
negotiating
a
contract,
clearly
certainly
but
to
pull
in
the
ndc
is,
is
another
layer
in
that
process,
because
we've
always
negotiated
contracts
and,
of
course,
a
lot
there's
a
lot
of
confidentiality
about
that.
Thank
you.
O
Okay,
thank
you,
hi
justin,
sorry,
we're
gonna
lose
you,
but
hopefully
I
know
you've
established
a
legacy.
The
next
economic
development
coordinator
will
have
at
least
your
work.
You
know
to
stand
on
and
to
be
able
to
build
forward
the
question
that
I
have
as
far
as
those
sixty
thousand
dollars.
We
know
what
it
did
in
the
past,
but
I'd
like
to
know
what
is
it
going
to
do
in
the
future?
O
T
Certainly,
we
will
not
only
continue
to
perform
the
same
set
of
services
that
we've
already
benefited
from,
including
staff
libby,
as
city
manager.
Hills
had
alluded
to
is
on
site
three
days
a
month
to
meet
with
developers,
business
owners
prospective
business
owners
to
help
educate
them
on
the
process,
to
help
talk
to
them
and
provide
financial
guidance
and
advice
and
best
practices
on
ways
to
go
about
things.
So
she
will
continue
to
build
on
on
that
approach.
T
L
L
T
Well,
having
worked
with
entrepreneurs
developers
retailers
for
over
six
years
now,
not
all
of
them
have
the
same
level
of
expertise
and
understanding
that
you
do
alderman
lauer
they
come
to
me.
I
get
several
phone
calls
a
day
with
business
owners
on
a
variety
of
topics
who
really
don't
even
know
where
to
start
they
need
the
guidance.
They
need
a
five-minute
phone
call
with
someone
to
say
hey.
You
should
really
talk
to
so,
and
so
there
there
they
can
unlock
the
resources
that
you
need.
T
So
we
do
need
our
allies,
who
can
serve
our
constituents,
who
can
serve
the
people
who
are
looking
to
start
businesses
and
and
grow
the
economy
here
in
bloomington
and
the
ndc
does
that
for
us
they
bring
in
outside
capital.
They
help
stimulate
the
local
economy
and
the
businesses
that
have
worked
with
and
been
associated
with
the
ndc
in
this
community.
I
am
confident
would
stand
behind
the
continuance
of
this
contract.
N
N
But
for
public
assistance
being
provided
and
we
don't
want
to
take
any
applicant
or
developers
word
for
it
and
there
has
to
be
a
greater
need
to
get
into
some
very
serious
heavy
duty
vetting
and
these
developers
can
share
with
the
ndc
in
a
very
private
way,
but
ensuring
that
ndc
tells
us
what
the
true
financial
condition
of
these
people
when
they
don't
want
to
do
and
make
that
same
information
publicly
available
because
they're
competing
as
well.
So
I
think
that's
just
it
it's
a
different
ballgame.
N
L
Q
There
are
three
things
that
I
think
these
folks
have
brought
to
the
table
that
I'm
aware
of,
and
I
imagine
justine
there
are
more
for
you,
but
we
we
have
a
retail
economic
development
policy
now
and
I
think
without
them
we
might
not
have
that,
and
I
believe
that
policy
is
going
to
do
us
a
world
of
good
going
forward,
because
it's
very
well
written
it
has
a
clawback
section.
We
didn't
have
clawback
before
and
over
the
three
years
that
I've
been
on
the
council.
We've
talked
several
times
about
gee.
Q
Q
What
also
I
like
is
many
people
up
here,
probably
never
even
heard
the
term
leakage
before
and
leakage
is
a
very
important
concept.
We
don't
want
to
be
taking
advantage
of
people
who
have
been
in
the
community
for
years
and
years
and
bring
in
a
competitor
and
have
not
enough
business
to
go
around
for
the
new
competitor
and
the
people
here.
Q
If
there
isn't
leakage,
we
aren't
going
to
be
doing
incentives,
so
I
use
ashley
furniture
as
a
real
good
example,
because
the
original
agreement
didn't
have
clawback-
and
I
remember
talking
to
the
president-
saying
we're
going
to
put
claw
back
in.
Do
you
agree
with
that?
And
he
said
I
don't
have
any
problem
with
that:
we're
going
to
succeed
and
they're
going
to
succeed,
because
there
was
so
much
leakage.
C
They
don't
want
to
be
publicly
known
yet,
but
we're
going
in
a
couple
of
days
to
go
to
the
second
round
of
that.
It's
just
a
very,
very,
very
complicated
environment,
where
you
want
to
make
sure
if
you
have
a
tif,
that's
real,
tight
and
surgical.
If
you're
going
to
give
some
sort
of
rebate
back
as
an
incentive
for
some
place,
that
really
will
help
stimulate
your
local
economy.
You
want
to
make
sure
that
those
are
are
very
clear
and
precise
and
anyway,
so
all
the
women
stern's
last
word.
M
Thanks
we,
you
know,
I
I
definitely
see
alderman
lauer's
point,
but
even
if
you
agree
that
we
need
all
this
expert
con
consulting-
and
you
know
all
this
help
for
these
entrepreneurs
that
don't
know
you
know
what
to
do.
We
have
the
economic
development
council
and
that's
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
then
we
have
an
employee
and
with
pensions
and
all
the
benefits
and,
like
I
said,
justine
htgo,
but
that's
another
hundred
thousand,
so
in
essence,
we've
essentially
doubled
to
me
what
we're
doing
here
and
now
here
we
go
again.
M
These
people
are
about
as
outside,
as
you
can
get
they're
looking
nationally,
they've
got
clients,
I
don't
know,
we
don't
have
the
client
list,
but
the
smallest
we
do
have
is
mostly
from
what
I
can
see
the
two
coasts
fairbanks
alaska,
for
crying
out
loud.
You
know
we,
this
is
outside
outside
consultant.
This
is
not
local
at
all
and
and
that
that
really
concerns,
because
we
have
so
much
local
talent
that
we're
not
tapping
into
necessarily
bankers.
We
have
all
kinds
of
great
people,
so
this
is
something
to
me.
M
N
Mayor,
if
I
could,
I
just
want
to
explain
that
the
edc
is
not
in
the
retail
economic
development
business.
Nor
do
they
have
the
technical
expertise
to
do
the
kind
of
credit
analysis
and
the
detailed
vetting
the
finances
of
applicants
like
this
has.
In
fact,
I
would
challenge
anyone
to
compare
what
we
have
brought
to
this
council
on
some
of
our
115
east
monroe
and
others,
and
how
we
have
been
very
open
and
transparent
with
all
the
data,
and
the
analysis
done.
N
Try
that
with
any
other
government
in
this
county-
and
you
will
not
see
anywhere
near
not
even
with
the
edc,
the
type
of
critical
analysis
that
is
going
on
to
help
make
sure
that
this
council
has
all
the
critical
factual
data
to
make
the
best
possible
decision
you're
getting
it.
These
other
organizations
are
not.
U
Yeah,
I
I'll
just
say
very
quickly,
justine.
I
appreciate
the
emphasis
that
you've
done
and
david
has
done,
because
here's
the
reality
of
the
situation,
regardless
of
whatever
perceptions
there
are
because
of
economic
development.
We
have
increased
property
taxes
that
come
as
a
result
of
new
businesses
coming
in.
U
We
gather
sales
tax
based
on
on
the
the
goods
and
purchases
that
are
purchased
in
those
new
businesses.
We
generate
income
tax
from
the
payroll
that's
generated
in
those
new
businesses.
All
of
that
income
is
used
to
take
pressure
off
of
the
property
taxes,
for
example,
that
the
people
in
bloomington
pay.
So
I'm
very
much
appreciate
the
proactive
approach
we've
taken
to
try
to
find
new
new
sources
of
revenue
outside
of
the
property
tax
and
some
of
the
other
fees
associated
with
living.
U
C
N
N
We
wanted
to
make
sure
the
council
and
the
public
were
aware
of
that.
There
will
be
some
inconveniences.
So
that's
what
we
initially
wanted
scott
to
present,
but
he
will
also
just
give
you
a
very
quick
update.
As
you
know,
the
munis
conversion
is
a
multi-year
process.
We
want
to
just
quickly
show
you
what
we've
accomplished
where
we
are
now
what's
coming
in
the
future
and
the
many
many
employees
that
have
spent
untold
hours
dedicated
to
this
conversion.
So
I'll
again,
we
wanted
to
keep
this
short.
V
V
I'm
not
sure
why
it's
it's
not
coming
up
right
now
again,
thank
you
for
the
time,
and
I
kind
of
hope
to
what
I
hope
to
accomplish
was
to
just
kind
of
do
a
short
refresh
on
the
munis
project
itself,
its
size
and
scope
also,
maybe
an
update
on
kind
of
where
we
stand
and
then
just
kind
of
brief
light
on
a
brief
spotlight
on
some
of
the
city
staff
that
has
been
really
working
very
hard.
You
know
with
the
project
today
and
proud
of
them
for
their
accomplishments.
V
V
You
know
the
the
base
applications,
the
different
kind
of
systems
behind
the
scene
that
support
you
know
the
different
workflows
and
things
that
the
system
has
to
do
that
one
started
in
december
2010
and
again
it
was
the
kind
of
the
the
core
of
the
system
and
then
really
again
at
the
heart
of
the
matter.
From
from
the
munich
software
is
the
financials
all
the
chart
of
accounts
general
ledger
that
sort
of
thing
the
finance
folks
have
worked
so
hard
from
from
really
from
the
beginning.
V
V
I
apologize
that
we
we
kind
of
put
this
together
towards
the
towards
the
end
of
our
submittal
time,
and
I
didn't
get
everyone's
picture
flashed,
but
we
certainly
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
in
is
that
have
been
doing
a
lot
of
hard
work
when
these
folks
are
working
hard
on
munis?
There
are
other
is
folks
that
are
kind
of
filling
in
you
know
for
their
absence,
too
oops
wrong
direction,
also,
again
a
little
just
a
kind
of
brief
light
on
the
the
finance
folks.
V
V
Phase
two
was
payroll
and
hr
what
you'll
see
and
I've
got
check
marks
behind
beside
the
implemented
ones.
There
certainly
are
some
applications
here
that
have
been
installed
that
are
functional
with
the
muni
system,
but
for
whatever
reason
we
just
staff
just
hasn't
selected
or
or
chosen
to
implement
those
different
pieces.
Yet
different
things
might
hold
those
those
things
up,
but
the
software
is
certainly
there
for
our
use
when
we're
when
we're
ready
to
to
to
use
it
payroll
and
hr.
V
V
V
And
the
functional
leads
for
phase
three,
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
community
development
department.
Certainly
a
lot
of
folks
in
public
works.
City
clerk
definitely
was
involved.
With
this,
the
business
licensing
was
a
is
a
big
module
for
them.
So
again,
just
kind
of
a
few
of
the
faces
that
have
been
working
very
hard.
With
this
project
and
again
power
users
there
are,
there
are
a
number
of
them
throughout
the
city
phase.
Four.
Is
we
hope
to
begin
that
this
summer
phase?
V
Four,
it
really
has
some
of
the
larger
applications
utility
billing
is
is
kind
of
a
a
big
application
for
us
inventory,
fixed
assets,
the
workflow
of
the
work
orders
system
is
kind
of.
What's
tying,
you
know,
really
that's
going
to
be
one
of
those
longer
term.
That's
the
thing
that
we
hope
saves
us
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
and
really
increases
the
tracking
and
the
accountability
and
potentially
the
application
of
of
of
costs.
You
know
to
the
different
services
that
the
city
might
provide
work.
V
We
hope
to
again
be
begin
this
summer
and
and
it
will
have
to
be
split
up
there's.
Certainly
it's
a
lot
to
ask
for
you
know
the
the
current
staff
to
do
all
of
that
at
one
time,
so
we'll
be
working
on.
Probably
you
know
splitting
utility
billing
up
with
and
then
come
back
with
work,
orders
and
and
the
the
work
orders
kind
of
goes
along
with
the
fixed
assets.
Inventory
certainly
are
some
other
modules
on
there
that
that
are
definitely
citizen
facing
the
citizen.
V
V
Final
slide
is
one
about
budget.
The
council
authorized
for
the
for
the
munis
project.
The
council
authorized
roughly
1.8
million
spin
to
date
is
1.3,
meaning
we
have
about
450
450
000
available
and
we
are
estimating
left
to
spend
at
309.
So
that's
actually
a
positive
number
there.
We
believe
we're
gonna
right
now.
At
least
current
estimates
tell
us
we're.
Gonna
spend
140
000
less
than
we
had.
L
It's
my
perception
that
some
of
these
modules
we've
been
paying
for.
We
haven't
really
been
using,
I'm
not
blaming
anybody,
it's
just
that.
We
haven't
quite
gotten
there
yet
and
is
there
some
cost
savings
that
we
could
realize
if
we
don't
think
that
we're
going
to
fully
implement
something?
If
we
paired
things
down
a
little
bit,
can
we
do
that
by
not
paying
for
modules,
maybe
until
next
year
or.
V
Well,
I
the
I
guess
the
short
answer
is:
if
we,
you
know
the
fewer
modules
we
implement,
definitely
the
fewer
modules
we
would
have
to
pay
maintenance
on
software
maintenance
annually.
That
sort
of
thing
we
did
the
modules
that
you
know
that
you've
seen
up
there.
Those
were
the
contracted
modules.
You
know
when
we
originally
or
entered
the
contract.
V
We
did.
The
the
contract
really
originally
said
that
we
wouldn't
be
paying
for
these
maintenance
on
this
software
until
they're
implemented
or
until
a
certain
date,
and
unfortunately,
with
staff
turnover
and,
and
certainly
the
poor,
finance
finance.
Folks,
we've
really
stressed
them
out.
You
know
the
last
number
of
years.
We
did.
You
know
the
the
timeline
has
definitely
slipped,
but
that
you
know
not
the
pro,
not
the
project
budget.
So
when
the
timeline
slipped,
we
went
past
that
time
where
you
know
we
have
the
software.
V
Now
the
contract
said
we
need
to
start,
you
know
paying
the
the
annual
maintenance
for
those.
I
can't
speak
for
the
different
departments
that
you
know
might
be
able
to
determine
whether
or
not
or
say
whether
or
not
they
might
use.
You
know
certain
modules,
but
I
you
know
my
understanding,
alderman
lower
is
that
we
definitely
intend
to
use
every
module
up
there.
You
know
we
just
it's,
it's
a
it's
a
resource
issue
and
we
need
to
kind
of
we
don't
work
through
the
the
implementation
for
those
different
departments.
V
Well,
it's
you
know
the
the
simplest
one
that
everyone
run
you
know
talks
about.
First,
is
I
want
to
report
a
a
pothole
and
if
I
have
my
smartphone
with
gps,
I
can
potentially
take
a
picture,
and
you
know
and
and
send
this
in
and
and
it
becomes
a
work
order
for
public
works
department
and
then
it's
tracked
online
and
the
citizens
can
can
view
the
progress
of
that
of
that
repair.
Also,
those
kinds
of
things
plus
many
more.
D
Yes,
I
have
a
question
actually
about
implement
the
software
update
and
implementation,
and
you
have
the
faq
that
you
provided
to
us
and
there's
a
lot
of
information
about
how
online
payments
can
get
redirected.
So
people
can
continue
to
make
their
payments
and
I'm
asking
on
behalf
of
people
who
don't
have
the
capability.
They
don't
have
the
bank
accounts,
they
don't
have
whatever
to
do
an
online
payment.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
not
going
to
be
penalized
in
some
way
with
like
payments
or
how
are
we
going
to
handle
that.
V
Sure
I
know
that's
been
it's.
A
topic
of
conversation
has
been
for
the
the
committee
that
city
manager
hales
put
together
for
this.
I
I
do
have
to
defer
to
sue
mclaughlin
at
some
point
or
david.
I
don't
know
that
you
know,
but
I
know
that
we're
that
we're
working
on
on
an
answer
to
that.
I
don't
believe
I
can't
speak
for
them.
I'm
not
getting
not
getting
a
nod
back
there,
but
I
don't
believe
that
that
we
want
to.
V
N
V
V
C
U
You
actually
had
two
different
teams
at
state
farm.
You
had
a
dedicated
project
team
that
implemented
and
as
well
as
then,
the
support
staff
that
kept
all
the
other
wheels
on
and,
and
so
what
you've
done
here
is,
and
I
know
you
have
some
dedication
of
resources,
but
but
we've
asked
staff
across
the
entire
city
to
kind
of
wear
both
of
those
hats
at
the
same
time
as
opposed
to
having
a
luxury
of
being
pulled
out
of
their
day-to-day
work
and
handling.
C
C
V
C
C
C
N
N
N
Mayor
I'd
also
like
to
just
give
you
an
update.
You
might
recall
that
we
had
to
move
forward
with
an
emergency
replacement
of
the
chiller.
The
police
department
just
heard
this
morning
that
that
chiller
is
going
to
be
delivered
june
21st.
This
has
been
an
extraordinarily
short
timeline.
In
fact,
it
will
be
delivered
hoisted
into
place
over
the
weekend.
Trying
to
do
everything
we
can
to
cut
corners
to
help
make
sure
that
this
can
get
put
in
operational,
we've
kind
of
stabilized
it
for
the
present
time.
N
So
that's
ongoing,
as
well
as
the
fire
sprinkling
system,
emergency
water
system
for
the
police
city
hall.
Roofing
project
continues
to
go
well.
If
we
can
just
keep
avoiding
these
downpours,
we
have
some
some
water
get
into
the
city
hall
again
over
the
weekend
and,
as
many
of
you
have
seen,
and
the.
N
I
think
also,
as
reported
in
the
paper,
there
was
a
a
critical
plea
agreement
entered
into
by
the
state's
attorney's
office
with
a
former
employee
of
the
city.
I
think
that
goes
to
show
again
some
outstanding
efforts
by
many
many
people,
starting
with
our
finance
director,
accounting
chief,
some
people
who
are
very
instrumental
in
some
forensic
accounting,
former
investigator
for
the
police
department,
the
state's
attorney's
office
and
many
others.
I
think
this
just
goes
to
show
that
not
only
do
we
take,
you
know
honesty.
N
Integrity
is
a
critical
core
value
for
all
our
employees.
We
also,
I
think
it's
it's.
I
think
something
to
mention.
Over
the
past
five
years,
we've
significantly
raised
the
bar
on
the
critical
competency
and
technical
skills,
accounting
skills
of
our
finance
staff.
I
just
couldn't
be
more
impressed
with
and
thankful
for,
the
progress
they
have
made
and
this
the
increase
internal
controls.
N
I
can't
begin
to
tell
you
what
was
some
of
the
weaknesses
we
had
with
the
old
legacy
system
and
having
all
these
spreadsheets
and
everything
else
out
there.
So
it's
I,
I
think,
we're
very
pleased
with
that.
We'll
be
having
some
more
discussion
with
you
in
the
future
and
then
just
just
to
mention
we're
working
on
a
couple
of
things
for
next
monday.
The
final
report
on
the
hotel,
downtown
hotel
feasibility
study
will
be
delivered
to
you
shortly.
We'll
have
a
final
presentation
on
that.
N
We
have
some
railroad
topics
to
talk
about
union
pacific
is
is
doing
a
lot
of
work
in
the
city,
but
as
well
as
the
town,
we
think
it's
helpful
to
bring
you
up
to
date
on,
what's
being
done,
how
our
engineers
are
working
both
with
idot
union,
pacific,
some
norfolk,
southern
topics
and
then
finally,
I'm
working
with
the
directors
to
kind
of
put
together
a
preview
of
the
council's
policy
agendas
over
the
next
11
months
of
this
fiscal
year.
The
one
thing
we
do
want
to
continue
to
help.
N
How
we
would
you
know
critical
issues,
it's
going
to
take
your
time
and
attention
to
vote
too,
and
so
be
watching
for
that
over
the
next
30
to
60
days,
as
we
try
to
again
keep
you
in
in
mind
of
some
of
these
upcoming
issues,
including
issues
related
to
next
year's
budget
and
a
couple
of
ideas
that
are
being
talked
about
by
the
mayor
and
several
of
the
aldermen,
and
some
of
you
may
want
to
comment
on
that
with
that,
that's
all
I
had
to
report
on
tonight.
Thank
you,
mayor.
C
Well,
thank
you
and
just
a
few
things,
as
I
had
mentioned
in
our
earlier
discussion.
Certainly
since
we've
got
the
quarter
of
a
million
dollar
funding
gap
grant
from
the
state
for
the
route
66
visitors
center,
there's
been
lots
of
interest
and
ideas,
renewed
energy,
lots
of
inquiries
meetings,
and
these
are
much
more
serious
than
I
think,
most
of
the
ones
that
I've
had
over
the
last
year
and
a
month
or
so,
and
also
some
new,
exciting
ideas.
C
Donnie
here
and,
for
example,
had
a
great
idea
of
possibly
opening
up
the
old
route
66,
which
would
basically
mean
we'd,
have
to
just
go
through
the
parking
lot.
The
county,
of
course,
may
not
be
quite
as
happy
about
that,
but
we'll
we're
working
on
that.
So
thank
you.
Donnie
also,
we
had
a
route
66
cruise
in
on
saturday
afternoon.
The
problem
was,
it
was
really
well
attended
and
then
about
45
minutes
in
there
was
a
downpour.
C
C
I
also
want
to
thank
john
kennedy,
thank
you
for
having
the
the
first
open
house
where
the
department
heads
have
presented
and
every
month
or
so
we
may
give
the
summer
off,
but
maybe,
as
of
august
september,
begin
to
have
some
of
the
other
department
heads
come
through
and
explain
some
of
what
they're
they're
doing
to
to
the
citizens.
Thank
you
john.
I
very
much
appreciate
that
and
once
again
thank
you
justine
and
that's
all.
I
have
and
who'd
like
to
I'll
just
go
from
my
left
to
right.
C
C
Q
It
it's
a
tribute
to
the
quality
of
his
presentation
and
how
much
you
can
learn
about
our
county
from
somebody
who
looks
at
it
differently
than
all
the
rest
of
us.
Tomorrow
morning,
at
seven
o'clock
at
the
hanson
center
at
illinois,
wesleyan
university,
dr
charlotte,
will
be
making
his
presentation
for
the
16th
straight
year.
I
would
encourage
everybody
in
the
room
who
wants
to
know
more
about
our
county
to
attend.
Thank.
M
You
a
question
for
city
manager
hails
regarding
the
april
14th
meeting
at
which
several
people
were
not
here.
I
think
there
were
just
five
of
us
or
something
there
was
just
a
quorum,
but
anyway
there
was
a
commitment,
and
I
do
have
the
minutes
here.
If
anybody
is
interested
that
we
would
be
getting.
S
M
Hadn't
defined
all
of
the
commissions
back
to
the
city
and
that
they
had
changed
and
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
So
I
just
wanted
to
see
now
that
that
60
days
is
almost
up
when
and
when
the
council
will
actually
have
a
chance
to
when
the
transparency
about
all
this
will
be
revealed
not
just
for
the
council,
but
for
the
citizens,
and
the
council
will
be
voting
on
something.
When
will
that
happen?.
N
Well,
thank
you,
yeah.
We
with
jeff
jurgens.
We
are
in
communication
both
with
siam
their
principals
and
their
attorney
were
working
through
trying
to
come
up
with
a
contract
amendment
or
something
else
that
would
rectify
and
make
very
clear
what
is
currently
two
provisions
that
agreement
that
are
working
to
the
city's
favor,
as
you
may
recall,
commissions,
siam's,
taking
less
commissions
as
agreed
to
in
the
agreement,
and
the
other
issue
is
really
a
known,
really
an
issue
that
is
not
having
any
financial
impact.
N
So
these
are,
and
the
auditors
always
will
bring
forward
recommendations
things
to
resolve.
These
are
two
items:
we're
working
on
and
we'll
be
bringing
back
contract
amendment.
You
know,
and
our
deadline
is
by
the
end
of
june
30th
and
that
we're
working
towards
trying
to
have
something
complete
and
at
least
email
to
the
council
and
bring
him
back
to
july
for
your
approval.
M
N
They
didn't
feel
it
was
right
to
take
the
full
commission,
so
the
city
has
been
benefiting
financially,
but
what
we
need
to
do
is
just
to
codify
that
and
put
that
in
writing.
The
other
thing
just
had
to
do
with,
where
was
half
of
the
one
dollar
parking
fee
going
into,
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
changes
in
our
general
ledger
and
things
like
that.