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A
D
B
Here
I
understand
that
council
member
carrillo
would
like
to
participate
remotely.
So
can
I
have
a
motion
to
allow
her
to
participate
remotely.
B
B
Well,
sorry,
to
hear
that
and
wish
you
the
best
in
your
recovery.
So
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
public
comment,
but
I'm
clear
do
we
have
public
comment
tonight.
C
We
do
we
have
two
people
registered
to
speak
and
we
receive
no
email
public
comment.
The
first
one
up
will
be
thomas
larry.
A
B
Public
comment
is
an
opportunity
for
speakers
to
provide
their
views
and
feedback
to
the
city
council.
It
is
also
an
opportunity
for
the
city
council
to
listen
and
hear
diverse
points
of
view
to
maximize
the
impact
of
public
comment
and
show
respect
for
the
expression
of
all
views.
Speakers
should
maintain
civility
and
focus
on
city
issues.
B
B
H
Thank
you.
My
name
is
tom
larry,
I'm
another
sewage,
not
water
victim.
I
live
in
a
small
working
people's
neighborhood
without
even
a
nickname,
we're
excluded
in
all
plans
from
this
from
the
city,
including
fixing
sewers,
despite
the
fact
that
colton
and
locust
is
two
blocks
away.
Apparently
the
city
engineers
made
that
decision.
H
Much
has
been
said
in
recent
meetings
that
I
won't
repeat,
but
I
do
have
new
questions
that
cannot
seem
to
get
answered.
The
rain
event
titled
an
act
of
god
by
mr
gleason
and
his
staff
and
then
followed
quickly
by
pma
to
avoid
any
responsibility
went
out
for
days.
My
house
was
struck
with
sewage
within
one
hour
of
the
advent
of
the
flood
sewage
flood.
H
H
H
The
facts
completely
say
otherwise.
The
sewer
that
might
have
flooded
my
home
is
one
of
the
sewers
that
mr
gleason
just
said
was:
okay,
not
okay,
mr
gleason,
it
put
your
sewage
in
my
basement,
blame
it
all
on.
God
lets
the
insurers
and
the
city
simply
refuse
to
cover
anything.
When
I
try
to
discuss
this
with
pma,
they
say
we
don't
have
any
information.
When
I
ask
why
not
the
city
corporation
council
told
the
media
that,
given
to
the
insurer,
they
gave
it
to
the
insurer
so
that
each
claim
would
be
investigated.
H
H
Pma
now
says
that
some
claims
have
been
paid,
which
ones
what's
the
criteria.
What
did
it
take
for
those
people
to
get
paid
when
we
couldn't
so?
My
concern
is
about
sewer
damage
coming
before
the
current
state
of
affairs
that
we're
talking
about
now
in
the
meanwhile,
the
cities
present
spent
hours
presenting
massive
detail
on
one
of
the
csos
who
might
be
fixed
in
years
to
come.
What
about
the
others
find
ways
to
help
us
now?
The
city
says:
go
see
the
sba
get
a
loan.
H
H
And
covert
funds,
I
want
to
close
by
saying
that
you
guys
have
mentioned
god
repeatedly.
If
you
want
to
mention
god,
then
you
you
have
to
remember
that
you
all
or
many
of
us
have
left
and
you
should
care
enough
to
help.
You
want
to
blame
it
on.
God.
Read
your
bible
about
what
you're
supposed
to
do
for
your
neighbors!
I
Hello,
my
name
is
susan
crawford
and
I'm
going
to
follow
along
with
some
of
the
things
that
he
has
said.
I
know
that
state
farm
farmers
in
allstate
paid
their
insurers
money
based
on
sewage
drain
coverage,
and
so
those
are
major
companies
in
this
town.
That
said,
there's
a
problem
with
the
sewer
drain.
I
There
was
15.7
inches
of
rain
posted
on
the
panograph
houston,
the
pantograph,
and
I
had
three
feet
of
water.
God
is
omnipotent
and
you're
trying
to
tell
me
that
he
turned
15
inches
of
rain
water
into
three
feet
of
water
damage.
I'm
sorry,
but
I
had
no
rain
damage.
My
wolf
did
not
rain.
I
didn't
have
water
from
my
wolf.
I
didn't
have
water
from
my
walls,
but
when
I
saw
that
there
was
something
water
coming
in
my
house,
it
was
in
my
laundry
room.
I
Water
was
dr
bubbling
up
from
my
drain
and
from
my
commode.
That
is
where
the
rain
does
not
come
from.
I'm
sorry,
it
comes
from
the
sky,
but
I
had
water
coming
from
my
commode
and
from
my
sewage
drain
and
I
went
and
they
keep
talking
about.
We
need
to
fix
the
sewer.
Well,
why
are
we
going
to
fix
something?
That's
not
broke.
I
And
I
went
to
and
I
kept
like
the
man
said:
we
heard
that
there
was
going
to
be
an
investigation
that
the
your
insurance
company,
I
called,
and
they
said
the
person
will
be
out
there
monday
or
tuesday,
still
waiting.
He
was
supposed
to
investigate
my
damage,
I'm
still
waiting.
He
did
not
come.
He
hasn't
seen
my
damage,
he
doesn't
know.
If
you
look
you
had
they
had
to
remove
the
drywall
off
my
basement
walls,
so
you
can
see
there's
no
water
damage
on
my
walls.
I
So
where
did
the
water
come
from
the
sewage,
the
sewer?
So
if
I
had
water
from
only
the
sewer,
how
can
they
sit
there
and
tell
me?
Oh
there's
no
problem
with
our
sewage
system,
we're
not
paying
your
claim.
I
really
have
a
problem
with
them
not
coming
out
to
investigate
my
damage
because
I
do
have
insurance.
I
have
sewer
and
drain.
My
company
did
pay
and
they
said
it
was
sewer
and
drain.
I
B
Okay,
thank
you
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
our
consent
agenda
and
there's
only
one
item
so
nothing
to
remove.
I
guess:
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda
as
presented
I'll
make
that
motion
I'll.
J
B
Okay,
thank
you,
madame
clerk,
could
you
please
call
the
role.
J
B
Okay,
thank
you.
The
item
passes
next
item
on
the
agenda.
Is
the
regular
agenda,
presentation
and
discussion
of
topics
related
to
city
infrastructure
and
recent
storm
events,
as
requested
by
the
public
works
department
and
the
administration
department,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
city
manager
gleason
for
introductory
remarks
and
then
we'll
hear
from
staff.
K
K
This
is
the
culmination
and
really
the
next
steps
after
tonight
are
what
happens
next,
but
hopefully
the
community
appreciates
the
fact
that
we
needed
to
report
the
facts
and
make
sure
that
the
elected
officials
are
on
firm
ground
with
the
facts
for
some
potentially
very
tough
decisions
that
they
need
to
make
going
forward.
K
They've
been
mentioned
in
the
past
presentations,
we
have
an
hour
allotted
for
staff
to
make
this
presentation,
and
then
we
have
an
additional
hour
for
the
council
members
to
ask
questions
and
we've
got
the
deputy
city
manager
that
I'm
going
to
turn
the
floor
over
to
here
in
a
minute,
along
with
the
public
works
director
to
his
left,
kevin
cothy
to
kevin's
left
is
the
assistant.
Public
works
director,
bob
yale
and
then
to
bob's
left
is
craig
shockweiler.
Who
is
the
city
engineer
billy.
L
Thank
you,
mayor
and
council
really
we're
hopeful
that
tonight
we'll
start
to
connect
some
of
the
dots
that
that
we've
heard
over
the
last
several
years
over
the
last
several
weeks
as
it
relates
to
the
storm
in
late
june
and
hopeful,
hopefully,
will
help
to
make
some
sense
of
how
our
system
works
and
when
we've
talked
about
the
amount
of
rain
and
how
it
impacted,
our
community
really
hopefully
helps
to
make
some
sense
of
that
for
people.
We
understand
that
people
had
tragic
events
happen.
L
We
understand
that
completely,
but
hopefully
this
while
it
may
not
satisfy
some
of
the
concerns,
and
we
get
that.
Hopefully
it
helps
to
give
a
better
understanding
of
the
way
the
system
works.
What
we
saw
on
that
night
and
frankly,
possible
action
items
going
forward,
which
I
think
everyone
has
talked
about
wanting
to
see,
and
so
with
that
I'll
turn
things
over
to
kevin.
M
M
This
is
going
to
be
a
bit
longer
presentation
than
the
last
one
so
bear
with
me,
and
hopefully
I
won't
put
any
of
you
to
sleep,
but
we're
going
to
review
some
of
the
data
collected
and
some
observations
made
and
then
provide
some
suggestions
for
steps
looking
forward.
So
with
that
we'll
begin-
and
I
won't
just
want
to
first
off
next
slide-
please
thank
a
lot
of
different
people.
It's
not
just
about
me.
You've
seen
me
up
here,
but
the
gentleman
to
my
left
have
been
a
big
part
of
everything.
M
M
Putting
these
presentations
together,
our
water
division,
who
monitored
the
dams
at
lake
bloomington
and
evergreen,
while
lake
levels
were
elevated
that
that
weekend
and
then
economic
community
development
with
overhead
sewer
program
and
other
supports,
they
provide
finance
for
all
the
data
analysis,
they've
done
and
and,
of
course,
administration.
You
elected
for
your
support,
moving
projects
forward
and
funding
those.
So
thank
you
all.
It's
not
just
about
public
works.
For
me,
it's
about
everybody
working
together.
I
thank
you
for
that.
M
So
next
slide,
please.
So
what
we
saw
at
june
25th
26
next
slide,
please
this
going
back
to
the
rainfall
okay.
So
this
is
a
rain
chart.
M
The
one
of
the
latest
bullet
1075s
from
the
illinois
state
water
survey
and
it's
been
updated
for
climate
change
and
stuff
like
that,
it's
just
within
the
last
couple
years
that
this
has
been
released
and
thank
you,
and
so
this
shows
you
know
the
the
frequency
of
rain
events
with
you
know
everything
from
a
two
month
to
a
500
year
and
of
course,
now
the
terminology
for
like
a
hundred
years,
a
one
percent
probability
for
that
type
of
event
to
occur
in
a
given
year.
M
But
you
can
see
on
the
left
that
there's
a
table
of
time.
So
you
know
it's
not
just
a
rainfall
per
hour
or
you
know
two
hours,
it's
a
different
rainfalls
over
different
periods
of
time,
and
we
share
this
with
you
so
that
you
can
see
that,
like,
for
instance,
three
hours
friday
night,
there
were
areas
of
bloomington
that
had
well
over
seven
inches
and
if
you
look
at
three
hours
and
you
take
it
out
to
the
right,
you'll
see
that
that
a
6.1
inch
rainfall
would
be
a
500
year
event.
M
So
technically
we're
off
the
chart
now
in
in
the
end.
Does
it
really
matter
that
much
well?
The
point
is,
is
that
this
was
a
very
significant
rainfall
and
it
is
by
far
more
than
typical
what
we
see
and
whether
you
look
at
it
for
a
three
hour
period
or
a
two
day
period.
It's
off
the
chart,
for
you
know
this
rain
event.
So
just
wanted
to
share
that
with
you.
This
is
data.
That's
put
together
with
you,
know,
client
scientists,
you
know
climatologists
and
that
type
of
thing
this
is
public
data.
M
You
can
you
can
query
on
the
website
or
you
know
the
web
to
get
it
so
just
wanted
to
share
that
information
with
you
and
then
next
slide.
Please.
This
is
some
weather
stations
that
we've
been
starting
to
deploy
and
collect
data
ourselves,
and
this
these
graphs
show
the
rainfall
on
the
evening
of
the
25th
and
then
at
midnight.
These
data
collectors
reset
to
zero.
M
Basically,
so
these
locations
in
different
parts
of
bloomington-normal
show
that
there
was
wide
variability
that
evening
in
in
the
intensity
the
amount
of
rain
that
happened
in
certain
locations.
M
The
characteristic
of
the
curve
is
very
similar,
but
just
there
was,
you
know,
isolated
areas
where
there
was
really
really
heavy
rain
and-
and
you
can
see
that
reflected
in
the
red
graph,
that
gets
all
the
way
up
to
eight
and
three
quarter
inches
for
that
day,
and
then
it
hit
hits
again
on
saturday
afternoon,
and
so
this
is
important
data
because
it
not
only
helps
to
understand
the
storm
event,
but
it
also
helps
with
hydraulic
modeling
that
I'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
more,
but
it
provides
good
data
input,
because
this
is
on
five-minute
increments,
and
we
can
use
that
for
a
hydraulic
model
to
study
what
would
be
the
benefits
of
changing
some
things
around
and
and
quantify
that
and
know
a
little
bit
better
than
just
guessing
that
doing
this
improvement
is
going
to
have
this
impact,
and
so
next
slide.
M
So,
once
again,
on
friday
night,
in
the
worst
scenario
that
we
had
data
collected
for
from
our
you
know,
local
collector
up
to
10
inches
of
rain
per
hour
was
the
heaviest
rate,
which
is
a
a
lot
of
rain
coming
down
very
quickly
and
then
in
other
places.
You
know.
Even
four
inches
is
a
lot
of
rain
in
an
hour,
but
but
you
can
see
that
those
intensity
of
rainfalls
really
had
an
impact
for
us
in
the
storm.
M
This
is
a
hydrograph
data
from
the
usgs
united
states
geological
survey,
and
there
are
stream
gages
on
sugar
creek
near
the
west
plant
by
by
bin
word,
and
then
the
south
southeast
plant
on
the
little
kickapoo
and
the
the
sugar
creek
location's
been
in
operation
for
many
years,
and
you
can
see
that
the
the
biggest
height
flood
height
at
sugar
creek
was
from
1982,
which
is
right
at
14
foot
and,
and
that
happened
december
3rd,
which
was
on
frozen
ground,
which,
whenever
we
have
frozen
or
fully
saturated
ground,
we
tend
to
get
a
lot
more
runoff.
M
The
the
2021
event
that
we
had
in
june,
the
water
levels
got
to
12
foot,
which
is
just
above
flood
stage,
but
well
below
the
14
foot
from
1982,
and
then
in
2003.
We
had
a
pretty
significant
event
that
caused
12.6
foot
for
flood
stage,
which
was
just
a
little
bit
higher
than
this
at
little
tickapoo,
which
is
the
top
crafts
that
station
hasn't
been
there
for
very
long,
and
so
it
set
the
record
with
this
storm
for
the
flood
stage
for
both
height
and
also
flow.
M
The
graphs
on
the
left
represent
stream
flow
in
cubic
feet
per
second
and
and
those
logarithmic
scales
are
a
little
bit
harder
to
read,
but
because
they're
not
just
a
straight
scale
and
left
they're
logarithmic
so,
but
nonetheless
wanted
to
share
with
you
some
of
the
stream
impacts
downstream
with
this
much
rain.
M
M
It's
already
the
ground's
already
full,
and
so
we
had
had
more
runoff
than
typical
and
if
you
think
about
it,
you
know
just
a
thousand
square
foot
home-
and
I
know
some
homes
are
smaller-
some
are
bigger,
but
for
a
thousand
square
foot
of
home
for
roof
getting
six
inches
of
rain,
that's
500
cubic
feet
of
water.
That's
that's
like
the
average
consumption
for
a
residential
household
in
bloomington,
of
how
much
water
you
use
a
month,
but
that's
equates
to
3
740
gallons
of
water,
which
would
pretty
much
fill
that
water
truck
in
the
picture.
M
And
you
know
if
you
equated
it
to
55.
Gallon
rain
barrels,
68
rain
barrels
you'd
fill
just
off
your
roof
from
just
that.
One
storm
event
that
friday
night,
if
you
look
at
that
in
terms
of
the
you
know,
like
a
10
000
square
foot
lot,
which
is
about
average
for
for
bloomington,
some
are
smaller.
Some
are
bigger.
M
That's
37,
000
gallons
of
water,
that
you
know
each
property
expected
to
see
to
take
that
37,
000
gallons
and
get
rid
of
it
so
that
that
added
up
you
know,
is
enough
to
fill
like
bloomington
from
empty.
So
just
a
lot
of
water
when
you,
when
you
stop
and
think
about
it
in
terms
of
each
residential
property
in
terms
of
all
the
businesses
that
were
trying
to
get
rid
of
that
water,
that
one.
L
Night,
kevin
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
that
next
to
the
last
bullet
point
I
think
is,
is
an
important
marker
in
that
more
than
half
of
our
properties
in
this
community
are
of
that
size
or
larger,
and
if
you
think
about
a
gala
and
not
to
minimize
any
of
this,
but
a
gallon,
a
gallon
of
milk
or
a
gallon
bucket
that
more
than
half
of
the
properties
in
our
community
were
discharging
37,
400
gallons
of
water.
I
mean
that's
it,
that's
not
a
normal
amount
of
of
water.
L
M
Thank
you
next
slide,
please,
and,
as
we
all
know
from
the
news,
this
is
not
anything
new
we've
seen
floods
from
you
know
around
the
state
around
the
country
around
the
world
and
even
a
hundred
years
ago
how
time
flies
august
12th
caught
my
eye.
You
know
torrential
rain
flooded,
bloomington
normal
streets
and
basements
normal
in
the
sugar
creek
valley
got
the
worst
of
it,
as
did
the
big
four
valley
and
east
douglas
street
bloomington
a
sewer
blew
up
under
pressure.
M
So
you
know
there
was
enough
pressure
there
that
it
it
caused
that
problem
and
the
big
four
valley
sewer
refers
back
to
the
big
four
railroad,
which
is
the
railroad
tracks
of
the
norfolk
southern
today
and
the
constitution
trail,
and
we
know
that
there
was
flood
waters
that
flooded
from
upstream
to
downstream
right
through
you
know,
gridley
and
oakland
through
the
public
service
yards
on
to
the
west,
and
and
so
these
are
areas
that
have
fled
it
before.
M
But
what
did
the
city
do
about
it?
Well,
right
around
world
war
ii,
just
after
world
war
ii,
the
city
took
on
a
huge
project
to
build
relief,
sewers
and
so
like
to
address
the
flooding
for
the
big
four.
They
put
an
eight-foot
diameter
pipe
eight
foot
right
right
by
the
library
by
the
bloomington
public
library.
That's
in
addition
to
the
over
six
foot
diameter,
brick
sewer.
That
was
there
to
begin
with,
and
so
surely
that
eight
foot
diameter
sewer
in
addition
to
the
other
one,
would
have
taken
care
of
the
flooding
right.
M
Well,
obviously,
not
completely.
No
doubt
it
helped
for
a
lot
of
storm
events,
but
even
all
those
relief
sewers
that
represented
millions
of
dollars
of
investment
for
that
day
they
helped
they
didn't
solve
the
problem.
The
point
is:
is
that
how
big
of
a
pipe
do
you
need
to
carry
what
size
of
storm?
And
you
know
there
can
always
be
a
bigger
event
than
what
will
fit
a
pipe
so
just
wanted
to
share
those
those
things
with
you
and
then
you
know.
M
The
mayor
made
a
note,
because
I
was
watching
the
news
and
he
said
that
gibson
city
had
just
finished
separating
their
sewers,
and
so
it
could
have
been
much
worse
is
what
he
said,
but
yet
they
had
basement
backups
and
basement
footing
as
well.
So
the
point
is:
is
that
we
see
this,
whether
it's
climate
change
or
whatever
we
do
see
big
events
throughout
the
world.
M
We
were
rather
fortunate
from
the
standpoint
that
no
loss
of
life
we
did
have
basement
backups.
We
did
have
property
damage.
Obviously,
but
you
know
things
could
have
been
worse
so
just
wanted
to
share
some
perspectives
of
you
know
different
flooding
events
from
from
100
years
ago
to
just
last
week.
M
So
next
slide,
please
storm
event.
Review
next
slide,
please
one
of
the
things
that
the
2014,
sewer
and
stormwater
master
plan
focuses
a
lot
of
info.
A
lot
lot
on
is
ini,
inflow
and
infiltration,
and
we
just
wanted
to
share
with
you
that
this
is
a
problem
in
bloomington
and
there's
a
lot
of
sources
for
inflow
and
infiltration.
M
One
of
those
that's
highlighted-
or
that's
noted
on
this-
is
connected
to
foundation
drains.
So
back
in
the
early
80s
there,
there
was
an
issue
identified
where
homes
that
had
been
built
in
the
50s
60s
and
early
70s,
particularly
in
the
fairway
knolls
holiday,
knolls
and
broadmoor
subdivisions,
had
their
footing
tiles
connected
into
the
sanitary
sewer
service,
and
this
results
in
groundwater
getting
into
the
sanitary
sewer
system,
which
is
ini
and
and
that
type
of
thing
is
not
allowed.
It's
a
ban
by
city
code
and
it
is
not
is
against.
M
So
a
lot
of
the
sewer
and
storm
stormwater
master
plan
talks
about
ways
to
address
the
eye
and
eye
problems
in
the
lower
left
is
a
picture
of
smoke
coming
out
of
the
ground.
That
is
one
method
that
I
said
smoke
and
dye
testing,
that's
smoke,
testing
and,
and
that's
an
example
of
where
you
put
a
smoke
that
is
safe.
It's
not
like
smoke
from
a
fire,
but
it's
a
way
to
visually,
see
where
a
sewer
might
be
getting.
M
I
and
I
into
it
so
in
this
case
that
front
lawn
would
indicate
a
sewer
service
that
had
a
problem
and
just
like
the
smoke
can
get
out.
Water
can
get
in.
So
that's
one
tool
and
we've
used
that
in
in
some
areas
of
bloomington
to
help
identify
problems,
and
you
know,
there's
an
area
by
miller
park
that
we
just
used
it
on
this
year
to
try
to
help
solve
ioni
problems
that
are
causing
flooding
over
in
the
miller
park
area.
M
In
this
case,
this
is
a
addition
to
fox
creek
village
and
the
addition
shows
on
this
plan,
the
lots
and
then
there's
sump
pump
drain
lines
provided
to
each
lot
and-
and
that
provides
a
connection
point
where
properties
can
connect
their
sump
pump
to
and
it's
all
underground
doesn't
flow
on
top
of
the
surface
and
and
just
avoids
problems
with
the
wet
yards
that
are
wet
from
sump
pump,
surface
draining
or
ice
buildup
in
the
winter
and
then
that
all
connects
into
a
storm
sewer
that
goes
to
the
detention
basin
and
just
wanted
to
provide
a
connection
to
you
between
drainage
and
traffic.
M
M
You
know,
as
as
the
traffic
moves
along
at
the
speed
limit
or
whatever,
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
more
traffic
gets
on
that
road
and
it
starts
to
get
more
congested.
The
traffic
starts
to
slow
down
and
eventually
gets
to
a
crawl.
Well,
that's
kind
of
what
happens
when
the
water's
coming
down
and
getting
into
the
inlets
getting
into
the
storm,
sewer
or
combination
sewers.
M
As
that
sewer
gets
fuller,
the
water
starts
to
slow
down
because,
as
you
get
more
in
into
the
pipe
is
trying
to
get
out,
but
at
the
same
time
more
is
coming
in
than
what
to
get
out.
Everything
starts
to
slow
down,
so
just
like
that
highway
in
chicago
that
you
know,
there's
no
apparent
reason.
It
just
starts
to
slow
down
eventually,
once
the
traffic
lets
up,
then
things
start
to
flow
again.
You
get
back
up
speed.
In
some
cases,
you'll
run
across
a
stalled
vehicle
or
a
crash.
M
That
would
be
like
a
blockage
in
a
pipe,
but
this
is
just
a
kind
of
a
visual
way
to
picture
that,
just
because
the
pipes
filled
up
and
everything
started,
slowing
down
in
some
cases
and
backing
up
in
the
basements
once
the
rainfall
lets
up
and
the
sewers
can
get
caught
back
up,
everything
starts
flowing
again,
you
know,
and
people
said
oh
well,
you
know
it
came
up.
Suddenly
it
went
down
suddenly
well.
M
M
This
is
the
same
subdivision,
but
this
is
looking
at
the
lot
grading
plan
and
this
is
pretty
typical
of
subdivisions
from
the
90s
on
and
we
have
these
plans
available
in
engineering
and
what
this
shows
is
in
the
streets.
There's
some
dark
black
arrows
that
shows
the
flood
routing
down
the
street
and
then
that
dark
black
arrow
also
turns
a
corner
and
goes
through
side
yards
to
get
to
the
detention
basin.
M
M
And
you
know
when
we
design
in
the
manual
practice
the
requirements
are
that
the
storm
sewers
are
designed
for
a
five-year
storm
and
so
are
the
pipes.
So
quite
often
in
a
heavy
rain
you're
going
to
overwhelm
the
inlets
or
the
storm
sewer
or
both
and
you're,
going
to
have
some
ponding
in
the
in
the
street.
M
M
Grading
plan
is
that
there's
a
elliptical
bubble
with
numbers
in
it
and
those
numbers
represent
the
finished
grade
elevation
for
those
homes
and
when
you
have
a
number
above
and
below
the
the
above
number,
is
for
the
regular
finished
grade
and
the
lower
number
is
for
the
lowest
opening
elevation
so
the
whole
the
the
building
sites
here
that
back
up
to
the
detention
basin,
which
is
at
the
top
of
the
page,
those
homes
can
have
what
they
call
a
lookout,
which
is
a
four
foot
elevation
difference,
typically
between
the
front
and
the
back
that
allow
for
windows
to
be
on
the
back
to
let
light
into
the
basement.
M
But
the
engineer
of
record
the
the
the
firm
that
does
these
plans
they're
the
ones
who
figure
all
this
out.
They
submit
it
to
the
city
for
review,
but
they're
the
ones
who
put
together
all
the
calculations
to
determine
what'll
work
and
what
won't
work
with
the
drainage
and
to
make
the
drainage
work
safely.
M
The
other
thing
you'll
see
on
this
plan
is
little
squiggly
lines
with
arrows
on
them,
and
that
shows
the
general
drainage
for
each
of
the
each
of
the
lots
and
how
it's
supposed
to
safely
get
from
the
front
yard
or
backyard
to
the
front
yard
or
from
the
midpoint
of
the
yard,
to
the
back
or
whatever,
each
one
that
that
is
all
figured
out
by
the
engineers
and
planned
out
ahead.
So
this
is
typical
of
something
from
the
90s
on
older
subdivisions
in
the
city,
the
old
parts.
M
There
was
not
something
like
this:
it
was
more
back
in
that
day,
a
common
sense
approach,
that
water
runs
downhill
and
you
want
water
to
get
away.
You
don't
necessarily
want
to
create
berms
that
might
back
water
up
on
you,
because
you
know
I
remember
when
I
was
a
kid,
the
neighbors
to
my
parents,
that
they
built
a
house
there
with
a
a
walkout
basement
that
backed
up
to
a
drainage
way
and
the
next
people
that
bought.
M
M
Well,
you
know
water
wants
to
seek
its
own
level
and
get
away
if
it
can,
and
so
the
water
that
fell
on
their
house
filled
up
their
backyard
and
flooded
themselves
in
the
next
couple
days
the
berm
was
removed
and
the
house
has
never
never
had
a
problem
since,
but
just
remember
that
you
know
berms
can
redirect
water.
They
can
back
water
up
and
cause
unintended
consequences
where
these
grating
plants
are
designed
to
try
to
get
the
water
away
safely
to
protect
the
homes
next
slide,
please.
M
So
you
can
see
on
the
right
there's
a
lot
of
ways
that
you
can
disrupt
the
drainage
with
raised
gardens
raised.
Patios,
you
know
fences
that
go
all
the
way
to
the
ground
that
are
solid,
so
there's
a
lot
of
ways
to
to
mess
up
the
drainage,
but
a
good
drainage
pattern
protects
everybody
next
slide,
please.
M
This
is
again
the
map
that
you've
seen
before
with
the
combined
sewers,
the
separated
storm
and
sanitary
sewers,
the
drain
tile,
just
just
a
refresher
that
you
know
the
core
of
the
city,
the
oldest
part,
is
the
part
that
has
the
combined
sewers
next
slide.
Please.
L
Sorry,
no,
the
hope,
with
the
preceding
slides
prior
to
this
one
was
that
while
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
about
the
combined
stewards
and
rightfully
so
there
are
a
lot
of
things
in
this
community
that
can
contribute
to
increased
flow
into
the
system,
especially
during
a
rain
event
like
that
one.
That
was
the
purpose
of
some
of
the
other.
L
The
earlier
slides,
there's
ini,
which
is
a
big
item
in
this
community,
there's
also
the
when,
when
drainage
ways
are
blocked
or
amended
again,
you
may
not
think
that
that
can
contribute
to
creep
increased
flow
into
areas
where
it's
not
supposed
to
go,
but
it
really
can
and
it
becomes
a
big
issue.
In
addition
to
again,
as
we've
talked
about
what
what
kevin
is
showing
now.
M
A
M
The
first
say
the
first
100
years
plus
or
minus-
that's
mainly
where
the
combined
sewers
are
and
then
the
dark
purple
on
with
the
different
colors.
Those
are
the
different
decades
of
annexations
to
the
city
and
in
general
those
are
all
going
to
be
your
separated
sewers
and
then,
when
you
get
to
your
1980
and
and
beyond,
that's
the
area
that
typically
has
detention.
M
So
you
know,
like
I
say,
combined
sewers
went
away
kind
of
after
world
war
ii
sometime
in
the
50s
detention
starts
coming
into
play
in
the
80s,
and
then
you
know
modern
lot.
Grading
plans
in
the
90s,
so
this
kind
of
gives
you
an
idea
of
the
area
of
the
city
that
has
different
types
of
development.
M
Next
slide,
please,
this
graphic
shows
the
drainage
basins.
So
one
of
the
things
that
was
talked
about
or
asked
about
last
week
was
how
does
drainage
work
for
bloomington
normal?
And
so
what
you
see
here
in
red
is
the
boundaries
between
different
drainage
basins,
and
then
the
blue
is
the
streams
the
creeks
and
the
you
know,
streams
that
feed
it
for
that
provide
the
drainage
in
those
drainage
basins.
M
And
so
you
can
see
that
sugar
creek
is
the
main
drainage
basin
for
the
core
of
bloomington
and
a
lot
of
the
east
side
and
town
normal
and
then
bloomington
is
also
into
the
little
kickapoo
which
is
kind
of
in
the
middle.
The
kickapoo,
which
is
to
the
right
money
creek,
is
to
the
north
right
and
normal
actually
gets
at
the
very
north.
M
End
also
gets
into
the
six
mile
creek
watershed
which
is
evergreen,
but
bloomington
is
kinda,
at
least
on
the
east
side,
at
a
ridge
point
where
there's
a
water
divide
where
water
can
flow
one
way
or
the
other,
and
you
know
it's
typically
at
those
divides
that
we
see
usually
some
flat
terrain
and
and
it's
not
necessarily
low
terrain,
but
very
flat
and
ground.
That's
very
flat
doesn't
drain
well,
if
you
have
a
little
bit
more
slope
drains
better,
and
so
some
neighborhoods,
like
the
eastgate
neighborhood,
is,
is
right.
M
M
You'll
also
notice
in
this
watershed
map
that
the
areas
that
are
not
in
the
urban
area
tend
to
have
more
fingers
on
on
the
the
streams
that
feed
those
main
blue
lines
and
you'll.
Look
in
the
middle
of
bloomington
there's
not
a
lot
of
fingers
that
feed
the
big
blue
lines,
and
the
reason
is,
is
that
a
lot
of
those
fingers
were
put
into
a
pipe,
but
that
pipe
when
it
gets
full
still,
the
water
has
to
go
somewhere
and
we'll
look
at
how
that
works
with
topology
in
the
next
slide.
So
next
slide,
please.
M
This
is
an
area
of
at
the
upper
left,
is
the
south
end
of
downtown
and
then
at
the
lower
right
is,
is
out
toward
the
the
bottom
is
lincoln
street
and
then
out
to
the
very
far
right
is
morrissey
and
the
lake
at
lakeside
country
club,
and
you
can
see
here
with
the
the
big
black
and
red
lines.
Those
are
the
bigger
trunk
sewers
and
they
follow
in
general,
the
contours
and
the
path
that
the
water
would
have
taken
when
that
used
to
be
a
creek,
and
so
what
you're?
M
M
M
The
creeks
are
rivers,
you'll
notice
that
railroads
follow
them
because
they
have
consistent
grade,
and
so
you
know
that
that's
some
little
history
and
background
of
bloomington
and
and
why
things
end
up
the
way
they
do,
because
that's
just
how
the
city
was
built
over
the
years
with
taking
into
account
the
terrain.
That's
here
slide,
please.
M
You
got
congestion
where
everything
is
kind
of
slowed
down
and
and
can't
take
anymore,
and
so
that
that's
you
know
a
correlation
between
those
trunk
sewers
and
in
the
combined
system
and
the
in
the
claims
with
the
basement.
Backups.
L
Kevin,
can
you
summarize
or
speak
to
this
is
a
good
point,
a
good
place
to
do
it,
why
people
have
complained
about
the
sewage
that
ended
up
in
their
basement?
So
can
you
a
lot
of
this
is
related
to
that?
Can
you
summarize
or
clearly
what
why
that
could
have
happened
with
the
amount
of
rain
that
we
had
in
a
short
amount
of
time.
M
Yeah,
so
with
the
combined
sewers,
you
know
the
normal
sewage
flow
from
flushing,
toilets
and
other
discharges
from
homes
doing
laundry
or
whatever.
It
really
doesn't
fill
the
pipe
up
very
full
at
all.
The
that
huge
capacity
like
I
said
that
that
eight
foot
diameter
pipe
that
goes
by
library,
those
are
built
as
as
ways
to
handle
serious
runoff.
When
you
have
big
storms,
and
obviously
there
comes
a
limit
of
how
big
do
you
make
the
pipe?
How
much
of
a
storm
can
you
handle?
M
So
when
that
is
exceeded
just
like,
I
said
with
the
with
the
vehicles
now
it
has
to
go
somewhere
and
it
will
seek
its
own
level,
and
so
the
sewers
become
what
we
call
surcharge,
where
the
pipe
is
full
and
beyond
full,
and
now
in
that
condition,
it
seeks
its
own
level,
which
may
be
somebody's
basement
and
and
it
will
fill
up
those
basements
to
whatever
ever
level,
it's
surcharged
and
it
it
can
do.
M
You
know,
damage
to
a
whole
blocksworth
or
just
one
end
where
the
homes
are
lower
and
that
type
of
thing,
but
water
wants
to
seek
its
own
level,
and
so
it
finds
it
in
people's
basements.
Unfortunately,
with
the
combined
sewers,
when
you
get
that
much
water
coming
into
the
system.
M
So
that's
why
we're
talking
to
you
tonight?
It's
not
just
about
combined
sewers,
it's
about
the
level
of
rain
we
got
and
how
all
our
systems
work,
whether
it's
combined
sewers,
whether
it's
separate
sewers,
there's
still
flooding
issues.
That's
why
we're
talking
about
lock,
grading
and
proper
drainage,
because
some
of
these
things,
you
know
if
the
proper
drainage
is
in
place
and
not
blocked,
should
have
worked.
Okay,
so
just
to
show
it's,
it's
not
isolated
to
one
area
of
the
city.
It's
pretty
much
all
over
another
slide
that
illustrates
that
next
slide.
Please.
M
This
is
data
that
was
collected
by
interns
prior
to
the
bulk
pickup.
Just
because
an
area
of
the
city
doesn't
show
any
dots
doesn't
mean
there
wasn't
anything
there.
It
just
means
that
for
that
day,
our
interns
may
not
have
gotten
through
that
route
before
the
crews
got
there
to
pick
it
up,
but
you
can
see
that
the
bulk
pickup
that
was
done
following
the
storm
event
was
was
throughout
the
city.
It's
not
just
in
the
combined
sewer
area.
It's
just
it's
really
throughout
the
city
next
slide,
please.
M
M
Next
slide,
please:
I
want
to
talk
about
ongoing
work
in
different
ways,
shapes
and
forms.
So
next
slide.
Please
detention
basins
brought
this
up
before,
but
they
do
make
a
difference
and
the
city
started
with
detention
basis
really
in
earnest
in
the
1980s.
M
M
So
here's
an
example
of
a
basin,
the
baker
ash
basin,
just
south
of
lincoln
street
and
in
this
case
on
the
upper
left
is
a
zoomed
out
picture
on
the
lower
left
is,
is
a
zoomed
in
picture
showing
the
debris
line
right
by
some
bushes
there,
and
what
you'll
note
there
is.
M
So
this
is
just
to
illustrate
that
the
reason
we
went
around
and
collected
data
was
to
see
where
are
there
opportunities,
possibly
to
look
at
for
improvements,
because
utilizing
this
basin
to
its
full
extent,
and
this
sewer
shed,
would
have
helped
the
people
downstream
by
gridlining
oakland.
So
next
slide.
Please.
M
This
is
another
basin.
This
is
the
fox
creek
pepper
ridge
basin
and
what's
noteworthy
about
this
one.
Is
it
overflowed
so
in
the
upper
left?
You
can
see
in
the
red
ellipse,
there's
a
debris
line
right
there
and
that
concrete.
In
the
background
that
you
see,
that's
actually
the
concrete
to
protect
the
spillway.
M
The
aerial
shot
from
the
drone
shows
that
the
grass
is
all
matted
down
where
the
water
ran
down
that
on
the
other
side
of
the
embankment,
and
then
that
that
box
references
you
back
to
an
area
in
the
lower
right
to
give
you
an
idea
how
big
this
basin
is.
That's
where
that
spillway
is
all
the
way
in
the
back,
and
you
can
see
the
houses
on
the
right
and
then
flipping
the
drone
around
looking.
The
other
way
is
the
upper
right
picture.
M
M
Here's
some
debris
lines
along
creeks,
so
the
upper
left
is
arcadia,
broadmoor,
ditch
and
there's
two
debris
lines
there.
We
highlighted
it
for
you
with
the
blue
lines
and
with
each
different
storm
event.
You
know,
there's
a
high
water
mark
that
leaves
grasses
and
twigs,
and
what
have
you
at,
however,
high
the
water
got,
so
this
one,
you
know,
stayed
well
within
the
ditch
and
then
on
the
right.
You
see
a
view
of
sugar
creek,
and
this
is
from
around
fell.
M
M
So
if
the
detention
basins
hadn't
been
built
on
the
east
side
of
bloomington,
we
undoubtedly
would
have
seen
you
know.
Iw
and
other
properties
inundated
by
flood
water
in
this
case
is
a
success
story
that
here
the
sugar
creek
stayed
within
its
banks.
Now
we
know
further
to
the
west
as
you
get
by
main
street.
It
did
come
out
of
its
banks
there,
but
that's
a
different
situation.
We
believe
is
related
to
the
railroad
culvert
that
has
too
small
of
an
opening
to
get
through.
M
M
This
is
from
the
2014
sewer
and
stormwater
master
plan.
This
is
showing
a
graphic
of
an
area
that
was
studied
with
a
hydraulic
model
and-
and
the
illustration
here
is
that
when
you
look
at
the
sewer
sheds
or
the
watersheds
they're,
not
necessarily
one
in
the
same
because
with
piping
underground,
it
can
be.
You
know
slightly
different,
and
so
this
illustrates
breaking
those
areas
down
and
what
goes
into
hydraulic
modeling
next
slide.
Please.
M
This
modeling
effort
was
part
of
a
technical
study
that
was
done
and
in
this
case
pond
one
is
near.
The
public
service
facility,
pond
ii
is
the
nycor
remediation
site
and
the
green
line
represents
a
proposed
path
for
a
storm
sewer
that
could
follow
constitution
trail
basically
under
constitution,
trail
to
get
from
downtown
area
to
the
west
side.
M
One
of
the
challenges
in
the
built-up
urban
environment
is
that
anytime,
you
want
to
add
new
infrastructure,
it's
very
costly
and
difficult,
because
there's
already
a
lot
of
stuff
in
the
streets
and
and
finding
a
path
for
any
more
pipes
can
be
a
real
challenge.
But
there's
an
opportunity
here,
because
you
know
constitution
trail-
is
a
clear
path
that
the
city
owns
and
you
know,
there's
some
fiber
optic
near
it,
but
really
nothing
else
under
it.
So
and,
like
I
said,
the
the
railroads
always
tried
to
follow
a
consistent
grade.
M
So
this
was
something
that
was
modeled
in
in
the
sewer
and
storm
water
master
plan
would
probably
need
to
be
updated
to
make
sure
everything
is
modeled
correctly,
but
just
a
possibility
next
slide.
Please
the
impact
of
that
system
based
on
the
modeling
they
did
is
shown
in
these
graphs.
So
the
blue
line
is
a
hydrograph
from
without
the
basins
the
red
line
is
with
and
and
one
shows
a
minimal
area
and
the
other
shows
an
expanded
drainage
area.
D
M
Yeah,
because
the
notion
here
is
that
if
you
can
get
water
to
a
safe
place
to
store
it
for
a
while
and
then
release
it
slowly,
you
minimize
that
impact
of
the
sudden
surge
of
water
that
is
either
flooding
basements,
because
the
pipe's
too
full
or
surface
flooding,
because
the
pipe's
too
full
again
and
doesn't
have
any
place
to
go.
So
that's
where
that
illustration,
with
the
detention
basins
on
the
newer
parts
of
bloomington
and
what
happened
with
our
floodplains
in
sugar
creek
tells
a
powerful
story
that
they
make
a
difference.
M
So
next
slide,
please
this!
You
saw
last
week
phasing
map
for
locus,
colton
phase,
one
six
and
seven
has
been
complete.
Two
is
under
construction
and
then
three
the
design
is
complete
and
we
heard
that
we're
on
the
list
to
be
funded.
M
Four,
the
design
has
just
started.
We
looked
at
this
last
week
that
there's
an
opportunity
that
five
could
be
maybe
combined
with
four
and
delivered
quicker
and
we'll
get
to
a
slide.
That
shows
that,
but
just
wanted
to
re
remind
everybody
of
that
next
slide.
Please
the
capital
projects
for
the
five-year
budget
for
sewer
and
storm.
This
is
what's
currently
programmed
and
we've
got
all
five
years
here.
M
A
lot
of
the
projects
are
related
to
locus
colton,
there's
also
for
this
sewer,
the
sewer
assessment,
the
multi-year
sanitary
sewer
assessment,
400
000,
that's
principally,
cctv
work.
If
you
remember,
we
did
a
really
big
contract
just
a
year
ago
and
we're
still
wrapping
that
up,
but
with
that
contract
we're
to
somewhere
over
70
percent
of
the
sewers
televised
now
in
the
combined
and
sanitary
systems,
but
we
still
need
to
continue
moving
forward
to
get
them
all
done
and
then
at
the
time
we
get
them
all
done.
We
need
to
be.
M
Is
that
where
we
need
the
level
of
funding
to
continue
that
multi-year
assessment
and
then
you'll
see
that
the
multi-year
sanitary
sewer
rehabilitation
at
1.75
million,
that
is
to
fix
problems
that
have
been
identified
with
the
cctv,
whether
it
be
point,
repairs
or
lining
or
other
things,
we're
looking
forward
to
doing
that
type
of
work
every
year
going
forward
and
right
now,
just
from
what
the
assessments
have
been
done,
we
have
enough
work
to
keep
us
busy
for
at
least
five
years
with
all
the
you
know,
lining
and
rep
point
repair
issues
have
already
been
discovered.
M
Then
we
also
have
some
sewers
that
are
streets
that
don't
have
a
public
sewer.
These
are
streets
that
have
some
sort
of
private
sewer
laterals
that
are
two
or
three
on
one
or
whatever,
and
run
down
somewhere
and
tie
into
a
public
sewer.
These
people
have
public
sewer
or
their
their.
You
know
sewage
flows
to
a
public
sewer.
We
just
don't
know
how
and
they
don't
know
how,
and
so
the
idea
here
is
to
provide
a
public
sewer
on
these
streets
that
people
can
connect
to.
M
When
they're,
you
know
two
or
three
or
four
on
one
sewers
that
run
through
people's
backyards
or
wherever
fail
or
have
problems,
and
then
sugar,
creek
forest
main
improvements
is
a
project,
that's
moving
forward
and
and
we'll
look
at
the
other
years
here,
real
quick.
I
know
I'm
getting
down
to
the
end,
but
let's
go
next
slide.
M
Once
again,
more
cso
work
and
the
assessments,
but
here
we
also
have
some
stuff
for
the
the
maze
field
cso,
trying
to
look
at
to
eliminate
that.
Ultimately,
next
slide,
please
once
again
very
similar,
we're
focused
on
cso
projects
and
the
assessments
and
the
rehabilitation
next
slide.
Please
25
fy25
main
mainly
the
same
type
of
story
and
then
26
plea
or
next
slide.
Please
and
26.
M
we're
kind
of
to
a
point
where,
where
the
the
the
funds
are
in
such
a
place
that
we,
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
other
work
program
for
these
years
and
then
the
next
slide
shows
the
overall
summary
for
the
five
years
so
for
the
sewer
fund,
just
under
19
million
and
for
the
storm
fund,
just
under
5.5
million
a
significant
amount
of
work
over
the
next
five
years,
but
always
more.
That
could
be
done.
M
So
what?
What
have
we
been
doing?
You
know
sewer
and
storm
water
maintenance
and
assessment.
Our
crews
are
busy
whether
it's
our
public
service
crews
or
whether
it's
contractors
doing
emergency
cabin
repairs,
cleaning,
sewers,
performing
smoke
and
diet,
testing
televising
evaluating
scada
improvements,
lining
sewers,
installing
sump
pump
drain
lines.
The
list
goes
on.
You
can
read
them
all,
but
a
huge
amount
of
work
that
we're
doing
with
the
money.
M
That's
in
these
enterprise
funds
to
to
maintain
and
improve
our
system
next
slide,
please
what
can
be
done
moving
forward
next
slide,
please
so
for
residents,
you
know
preventing
sewer
backups,
there's
also
backup
issues
when
sewer
laterals
private
sewer
laterals
get
blocked.
These
are
examples
of
sewers
that
have
had,
for
instance,
tree
roots,
blocking
the
flow
it's
important
to
look
at
televising
and
cleaning
those
periodically
and
especially
prior
to
purchase
of
a
house.
M
Next
slide.
Please
for
properties
that
are
served
by
combined
sewers.
An
option
is
the
overhead
sewer
program.
The
city
will
provide
up
to
forty
five
hundred
dollars
per
eligible
home
single-family
home.
We
currently
budget
at
40
000
a
year
that
could
be
increased,
but
the
reason
it
got
to
that
level
was
because
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
demand
the
last
few
years.
M
Another
option
for
homeowners
is
a
sewer,
backflow,
preventer
and
some
people
have
those
we
we
as
a
city
kind
of
prefer
the
overhead
sewer
program,
because
it
also
you
know,
is
able
to
be
the
sewers
are
able
to
be
used
even
when
the
combined
sewers
are
surcharged.
So
next
slide,
please
some
helpful
hints.
This
is
for
homeowners
to
you,
know,
keep
service
lines
clean,
good
repair,
remove
obstructions
for
side
yard
backyard,
swells
flood
routes,
private,
locating
in
low
isolated
areas,
is
kind
of
an
issue.
M
The
there's
been
cases
where
people's
backyards
flood-
and
this
is
older
parts
of
the
city-
don't
necessarily
have
a
glock
grading
plan,
but
those
are
really
private.
Drainage
issues,
like
I
say
most
subdivisions
built
after
1990-
have
a
lot
grading
plan
and
people
can
contact
the
public
works
engineering
division
and
we'll
be
happy
to
share
that
information
with
them
for
their
property
and
then
make
sure
downspouts
point
away
from
the
foundation.
Gutters
are
clean.
M
Downspouts
clean
and
that
you
know
driveway
sidewalks
patios,
they
can
settle
over
time,
make
sure
they're
sloped
away
from
the
foundation.
If
they're
not
try
to
get
them
corrected
next
slide,
please
some
other
helpful
hints
with
window
wells.
Sometimes
they
settle
over
time
make
sure
that
they're,
the
right
elevation
windows
are
free,
wind,
wells,
free
from
debris
and
consider
putting
covers
over
them
to
keep
rain
and
debris
out
and
sump
pumps
where
we
have
sump
pump
drain
lines
connect
to
them.
M
It
helps
to
keep
the
yard
dryer
and
prevent
you
know
ice
and
build
up
in
in
different
areas
in
the
winter
and
then
you
know
sump
pumps,
gutter
discharges,
city
code
says
they
have
to
be
15
feet
away
from
front
or
rear
property
lines
and
then
connecting
sand
or
sump
pumps
to
sanitary
sewers
is
prohibited.
M
Some
other
helpful
hints.
You
know
for
those
that
would
like
to
know
when
they're,
when
water
is
in
the
basement,
there's
cheap
battery
powered
alarms
that,
like
10
bucks,
you
can
get.
They
emit
a
sound
like
a
smoke
detector
or
whatever
that's
pretty
loud
and
obnoxious,
there's
also
ones
that
are
smart.
That
can
be
send
texts
or
emails
and
notify
you
on
your
smartphone
or
whatever,
and
then
a
green
alternative
rain
barrels
I
mean,
even
though
they
wouldn't
necessarily
help
solve
the
problem.
M
With
the
you
know,
with
the
amount
of
rain
we
got.
Nonetheless,
it's
a
green
solution
that
can
help
with
runoff
next
slide.
Please
some
helpful
hints
with
insurance,
your
homeowner's
insurance,
unless
you
have
special
coverages,
you
know
for
flood
coverage,
sewer,
backup
coverage,
sump
pump
coverage.
Those
are
all
different
riders
that
need
to
be
added
to
policies
in
order
to
cover
those
things.
M
Next
slide,
please
for
the
city
to
consider
some
code
review
amendments
potentially
to
get
sheds
and
fences
out
of
swales
or
to
disallow
swimming
boating,
gardening,
gardens,
boat,
docks,
fire
pits,
etc
from
public
detention
basins
or
other
drainage
ways.
These
are
issues
that
we
actually
have
ad
ad
requirement
for
homes
to
be
inspected
for
proper
plumbing
connections
when
a
home
is
sold
so
that
the
sump
pump
downspouts
footing
tiles
are
now
connected
into
the
sanitary
sewer.
M
Some
additional
considerations
would
be
for
hydraulic
modeling
of
select
sewer
sheds.
Ideally
we
would
have
a
hydraulic
model
for
the
whole
city,
but
it
takes
time
to
get
that,
but
there's
some
that
are
more
important
than
others
to
help
solve
some
of
the
you
know,
flooding
issues
and
then
based
on
the
modeling,
consider
additional
capital
projects
and
then
funding
of
the
capital
projects.
M
M
Next
slide.
We
saw
this
last
week
accelerated
time
frame,
possibly
for
locus
colton
cso
elimination
to
combine
phases
four
and
five,
and
then
move
phases,
eight
and
nine
up
a
little
bit.
Potentially
here
you
know
we
could
cut
off.
You
know
up
to
four
years
off
the
schedule
for
completion.
M
Next
slide,
please,
this
would
be
a
kind
of
a
sketch
or
an
idea
of
what
a
basin
might
look
like
at
the
nicore
site
for
detention.
We
just
need
to
pursue
that
with
nycor
and
move
that
option
forward.
If
that's
what
we
want
to
do
as
a
city
but
they're
nicor
remediation
site,
there
they're
planning
to
remove
all
the
soil
and
replace
it
with
clean
fill
and
the
soil
will
be
removed
to
depths
of
30
and
30
25
to
35
feet
so
they're
going
to
dig
a
big
hole
and
then
fill
it
back
in.
M
Why
not
take
advantage
of
the
opportunity
with
large
hole
to
create
a
base
in
there?
That
could
help
with
you
know,
flood
control
next
slide,
please
that
other
basin,
the
the
pond
one,
could
be
at
the
public
works
yards
on
east
street,
just
south
of
the
city
hall
and
library.
M
That's
where
it
flooded!
That's
where
the
water
wants
to
go,
that's
where
the
creek
was
a
natural
spot
for
it
and
then
next
slide.
Green
infrastructure,
green
infrastructure
helps
with
water
quality
and
it
is
good
in
general.
But
when
you
get
to
events
this
big,
it
doesn't
necessarily
help
because
the
waters,
the
ground's
already
saturated
the
water
can't
get
any
more.
It
runs
off
those
green
infrastructure,
things
like
tipton
trails
or
the
grove
both
of
those
were
big
lakes
underwater.
M
So
during
normal
events,
they
help
with
water
quality
and
these
big
events
they
they
kind
of
they
do
their
job
as
a
big
detention
basin.
So
just
having
permeable
pavement
doesn't
necessarily
solve
anything
with
flooding.
It
can
help
with
water
quality.
So
you
know,
but
there's
other
issues
that
come
into
play
with
when
ground
is
saturated.
It's
less
cohesive
puts
additional
pressure
on
foundations,
as
well
as
the
higher
water
table,
and
then
sump
pumps
can
run
more
often
sometimes
for
days
or
even
weeks,
so
pros
and
cons
with
that.
M
Next
slide,
please
potential
next
steps.
This
is
for
your
consideration.
Expedite
the
locus
colton,
cso
elimination
schedule,
increase
funding
for
the
overhead
sewer
program,
perform
a
address.
Modeling
of
select
storms,
sewer
sheds,
evaluate
projects
that
result
coming
out
of
the
hydraulic.
Modeling
initiate
formal
discussions
with
nicore
regarding
detention
at
the
remediation
site,
evaluate
the
facility,
relocation
of
public
works
near
in
detention,
near
downtown
review
and
update
city
code
and
evaluate
funding
sources
and
rate
structure.
So
this
is
the
last
slide
for
questions
and
answers.
I'll
just
leave
this
one
up
for
your
consideration.
K
Kevin
before
we
turn
this
back
over
to
the
mayor
and
council
for
follow-up
questions
regarding
the
overhead
sewer
program,
4
500
is
the
city's
portion
that
we
have
set
aside,
and
I
know
that
we
have
talked
tonight
and
in
previous
council
meetings
about
possibly
expanding
this
program.
K
What
is
the
typical
total
cost
for
this
to
be
put
in
any
given
average
home.
M
Yeah
great
question
see
manager,
you
know
the
the
4500
is
really
to
cover
the
cost
of
the
plumbing
and
the
pump
and
stuff
like
that,
other
incidentals,
whether
it
be
floor
coverings
or
wall
coverings,
or
that
type
of
thing
aren't
covered
in
our
4
500
grant
program,
so
the
total
cost
can
vary
it
also.
The
sewer
service
needs
to
be
in
good
shape
before
this
goes
in
so
sometimes
there's
rehabilitation
for
the
sewer
service.
M
Tony
brown
would
be
a
better
person
to
answer
that
question.
I'm
I'm
gonna
say
that
we're
probably
more
like
in
the
10
000
range.
Typically
for
this.
So.
K
Maybe
the
possibility
to
increase
the
amount,
that's
funded
and
the
overall
amount.
That's
in
the
program.
Something
else
that
you
mentioned
was
the
detention
basins
is
the
area
behind
city
hall.
The
public
works.
Campus
is
what
I
call
it
is
that
an
area
that's
been
identified
as
an
ideal
location
for
a
detention
basin.
It.
M
Is
city
manager
the,
as
we
know
that
you
know
garage
area
flooded
to
a
little
over
a
foot
deep
in
this
last
storm?
The
water
wants
to
be
there.
It
was
identified
in
the
sewer
and
storm
water
master
plan
as
a
good
spot
for
detention
basin,
just
because
it's
kind
of
a
natural
spot
and.
K
Also,
when
we
talk-
and
I
said
this
last
week
at
the
council
meeting
when
we
talk
about
trying
to
expedite
or
repurpose
the
locus
colton
project
and
try
to
shorten
that
time
frame
that
we
complete
the
project,
is
it
possible
to
receive
a
larger
portion
of
the
iepa
funds
that
are
given
out
in
any
given
year?
But
is
this?
K
Other
things
that
we
are
exploring
is
grants
that
we
have
our
local
legislators.
We
have
two
state
senators
that
represent
the
community.
K
We
have
two
state
representatives
and
probably
a
conversation
that
no
one
recalls,
but
there
was
over
a
million
dollars
that
is
in
the
current
state
budget,
that's
appropriated
through
our
local
state
representatives
for
different
types
of
projects
in
the
city
of
bloomington,
while
it's
a
process
and
while
there
are
no
guarantees
we're
having
those
conversations
if
we
would
be
allowed
to
repurpose
those.
If
council
chooses
to
use
those
for
any
of
the
possibilities
that
the
public
works
director
was
sharing,
so
those
things
are
in
play.
K
K
I
have
definitely
at
the
staff
level
using
julie,
curry
our
lobbyist,
but
of
the
state
elected
dan
brady's,
been
very
engaged,
jason,
barrichman
and
senator
sally
turner.
I
have
been
very
engaged
as
well,
and
I
know
we're
over
on
time,
but
deputy
city
manager
anything
before
we
come
back
to
the
mayor
and
council.
L
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
kevin
and
staff
for
a
very
informative
presentation.
Thank
you,
city
manager,
gleason,
also
for
the
additional
details.
B
What
I
would
say
is
that
you,
you
have
provided
us
with
a
number
of
different
potential
next
steps,
but
I
from
my
perspective-
and
I
think
I
can
speak
for
the
council-
is
that
we,
you
know,
there's
definitely
a
desire
to
expedite
things
as
fast
as
possible,
so
the
the
sooner
we
have
something
more
concrete,
a
plan
with
dollar
figures
associated
to
it.
I
think
the
the
better
off
we're
we're
going
to
be
so.
Thank
you
very
much
and
with
that
I
will
turn
it
over
to
council
members.
F
F
So
at
some
point
somebody
mentioned
that
gibson
city
has
handled
the
separation
of
sewers
recently.
What
can
we
learn
from
that?
What
can
we
learn
from
other
cities
who
are
going
through
this
because
surely
of
the
700
plus
cities
that
I
think
you
mentioned
last
meeting
around
the
country
that
have
been
dealing
with
this
problem?
There's
some
other
wisdom
out
there
about
how
we
can
handle
this.
M
Separating
the
sewers
can
help,
but
it's
not
the
entire
answer.
So
in
the
case
of
gibson
city,
they
said
it
would
have
been
worse
if
they
hadn't
separated,
but
it
was
still
pretty
bad
when
you
look
at
the
number
of
people
that
had
to
be
rescued
in
the
basement
flooding.
So
that's
where,
in
the
presentation,
I
don't
want
to
be
clear
that
that
may
be
part
of
a
solution,
but
it's
not
the
entirety.
F
Sure,
that's
not
that's
not
quite
my
question,
I'm
just
I
understand
it's
a
it's
a
years-long
process
to
separate
the
sewers.
We
have
85
miles
where
the
sewers
to
separate
in
the
city,
millions
and
gajillions
of
dollars
to
do
that.
F
M
F
M
That
wasn't
the
annexation
slide.
That
was
another
slide,
just
I
think
after
that,
but
I
think
we
could
probably
flip
back
to
it.
F
C
M
F
F
M
M
M
F
M
E
Just
to
interject
real,
quick
kevin
would
it
also
be
safe
to
say
looking
at
the
map
that
a
lot
of
the
the
really
bad
areas
or
where
the
concentrated
rain
would
have
come
off
the
downtown
hill
too?
It
would
flow
east
west
to
the
one
dark
spot
and
south
of
the
other.
Dark
spot
is
kind
of
what
I'm
looking
at
too.
M
M
Some
occur,
you
know
from
the
heavy
rain
directly
impacting
homes
from
the
outside
and
then
the
concentrate
it
flows
as
they
concentrate
more
and
more.
You
know,
that's
why,
like
a
river
city
like
a
peoria,
you
know
the
hundred
year
rain
and
100
year.
Flood
are
two
different
things
and
the
flood
that
comes
to
peoria
comes
from
somewhere
up
north,
you
know
and
that
slug
of
water
is
coming
through
peoria
and
they
can
predict
days
in
advance
what
the
river
is
going
to
crust
at.
M
F
You've
talked
about
the
basin
for
the
the
retention
base
and
you've
talked
about
the
retention
basin
for
the
nicore
property.
Yes,
who
would
that
have
a
positive
impact
for
what
neighborhoods
would
would
be
helped
by
having
that
retention
base?
And
can
you
talk
about
that.
F
M
M
M
So,
whether
we
separate
the
sewers
or
not
like
in
the
case
of
locus
colton
as
we
look
at
those
sewers
and
build
a
new,
say,
sanitary
sewer,
because
we
already
have
a
big
pipe,
that's
big
enough
for
storm
a
lot
of
times
will
line
the
storm
sewer
to
make
sure
that
it
can
be
serviced
for
another
100
years
or
whatever.
That
is
just
by
maintaining
that,
in
a
good
condition.
F
And
so
can
you
also
explain
to
the
folks
here
as
clearly
as
you
explained
to
me
at
one
point,
why
you
prefer
the
overhead
sewers,
as
opposed
to
the
the
check
valves.
M
The
the
check
valve
is
a
less
costly
solution,
but
the
issue
becomes
unless
you're
able
to
look
at
the
valve
and
know
that
it's
closed
or
open.
You
don't
know
whether
you
can
use
the
sewers
in
your
house,
because
when
the
water
comes
up
in
the
combined
sewer,
it
would
in
theory,
close
the
check
valve.
M
On
the
overhead
sewer,
because
there's
a
pump
in
the
basement,
everything
upstairs
gravity
flows
out
high
the
stuff
that's
in
the
basement
gets
pumped
up,
and
it's
at
such
an
elevation
that,
even
if
the
sewer
service
gets
a
backup,
the
sewer
connection
to
the
house
is
much
higher
than
that.
And
therefore
you
don't
get
the
backup
in
the
house,
and
you
can
still
use
the
sewers
even
in
a
big
storm
without
having
to
worry
about
getting
a
backup
in
your
basement.
F
M
M
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
okay,
council
member
monty,
and
I
just
want
to
mention-
I
probably
should
have
said
that
ahead
of
time,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
everybody
gets
a
chance
to
ask
your
questions.
So
maybe
you
can
ask
a
couple
questions
and
then
we
can
circle
back
to
the
other
person
afterwards.
O
Your
department
has
done
a
nice
job
of
advising
at
budget
time
year
after
year
that
loans
are
not
available.
That
costs
exceed
revenues
that
there's
not
a
sufficient
money
for
proper
maintenance
and
repair
and
you're,
though
a
recipient
of
funding
from
councils
this
one
and
prior
councils.
Obviously
you
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
self-fund.
O
I
think
it
was
noted
in
your
documents
that
emergency
repairs,
reactive
repairs,
2
455,
feet,
55
dollars
per
foot,
but
for
proactive,
planned
work,
133
dollars
a
foot
which
is
certainly
a
difference.
O
The
fourth,
however,
allows
for
investment
in
our
infrastructure,
specifically
upgrading
ager
aging
sewer
infrastructures
is
a
permitted
use.
The
timing
is
remarkable,
so
I
just
wanted
to
reflect
upon
the
opportunities
that
you've
laid
out
separating
not
only
executing
the
whole
locust
colton
project,
but
also,
I
believe,
as
you
talked
to
us
last
week,
the
secondary
benefits
that
that
would
have
to
all
of
the
neighborhoods
by
not
persistently
flooding
into,
as
you
laid
out.
You
know
the
gravity
which
would
take
this
over
to
the
many
poignant
stories
that
we've
heard
in
our
west
side
neighborhoods.
O
P
P
M
Great
question
aldrin
becker-
and
I
don't
have
that
answer
for
you
tonight-
yeah,
I'm
sorry,
but
there
there
is
a
number
in
the
sewer
and
stormwater
master
plan,
but
it's
out
of
date
and
it
would
need
to
be
adjusted
for
today's
dollars.
So
that
certainly
something
that
we
can
you
know
put
together.
P
As
people
can
probably
see
even
with
the
mask,
that
answer
does
disappoint
me,
because
these
guys
and
all
the
citizens
have
been
waiting
for
five
weeks.
For
that
answer,
we
can't
vote
on
it
until
we
get
that
number
and
we
really
need
that
number.
We
want
to
give
you
the
money,
I
think
fairly
unanimously.
We
want
to
help
you,
but
we
need
that
number.
K
Real
quick,
if
I
can
jump
in
here
kevin
I
mean
this-
has
been
a
conversation
that
we
have
had.
You
know
we
sort
of
take
two
paths
here.
One
you
know
trying
to
profi
provide
a
defense
to
the
city
that
we're
not
liable.
K
You
know,
but
it's
not
suggesting
that
we
don't
want
the
improvements
to
the
system,
that
we've
got
any
infrastructure
that
we
have
as
a
city,
I'm
not
going
to
cast
any
disparaging
comments
against
past
councils
because
I
don't
know
what
the
decisions
were,
that
they
made
5
10
20
30
years
ago.
I
just
know
that
I
have
got
to
put
this
council
on
the
firmest
ground
when
they're,
making
decisions
going
forward
and
and
what
does
come
next-
you
know
kevin,
you
know,
and
I'm
gonna
preface
this.
K
But
can
you
comment
alderman
becker's
question
and
give
an
estimate
that
is
not
an
etched
in
stone,
perfect
estimate,
if
this
is
going
to
be
the
pathway
that
council
gives
us
direction
or
marching
orders,
because
that's
what
we're
looking
for
as
staff
as
well,
these
marching
orders
on
what
to
do
next.
Can
you
ballpark
a
number.
M
Sorry
kind
of
put
on
the
spot
here
we
have
the
numbers,
obviously
in
the
slides
from
the
locus
colton
and
accelerating
those
phases,
the
other
the
other
projects
to
do
the
hydraulic,
modeling,
the
you
know,
two
ponds
in
the
storm
sewer.
I
want
to
say
from
the
master
plan.
It
was
somewhere
around
five
million
for
that
pawn
one
pawn
two
and
stuff,
but,
like
I
say
we
would
want
to
update
those
numbers
and-
and
you
know
the
the
hydraulic
modeling
you
know
we
could
be
talking.
N
Thank
you.
You
said
something
that
I
wrote
down
kevin.
A
good
drainage
pattern
protects
everybody
like.
I
think
you
said
that
more
than
than
once,
and
so
just
to
to
clarify
what
older
woman
ward
was
asking
the
the
reason
why
residents
experienced
say
a
differential
in
an
observable
rainfall
and
an
experience
of
flooding
is
because
there
was
so
much
water
it.
It
had
an
impact
on
our
systems
across
the
board,
and
what
we're
seeing
is
that
water
wants
to
be
at
its
level
right
that
it
it.
C
N
Okay
and
if,
if
that's
the
case-
and
maybe
you
can't
respond
now,
but
but
what
would
be
the
priorities
of
the
the
various
ways
that
we
could
vote
to
fund
to
redress
these,
these
problems
with
the
infrastructure
like
like
what-
and
I
know,
you're,
not
a
you-
can't
predict
exactly
the
future
in
the
way
that
gibson
city
separated
sewers
and
they
had
flooding.
And
we
understand
that.
But
but
what
would
make
the
most
difference
right
so
would
it
would
it
be
creating
these
water
basins?
N
N
M
Yeah
good
question
alderman
aiming,
and
I
think
part
of
that
answer
is
you
know
the
locus.
Colton
is
already
in
process,
obviously
not
everything's
designed
yet,
but
we
have
a
good
idea
of
what
the
costs
are
moving
forward.
With
that
the
part
we
don't
have
such
a
good
idea
on
is
really
the
rest
of
the
city,
so
the
sewer
and
stormwater
master
plan
did
some
modeling
of
different
areas
of
the
city
came
up
with
that.
You
know
like
the
the
two
ponds.
M
The
two
detention
basins
with
the
storm
sewer
would
be
a
good
idea
to
have
a
positive
benefit
from
that
early
modeling.
What
we
really
need
to
do,
in
my
estimation,
is
to
move
forward
with
additional
modeling
to
say
you
know.
We
know
what
the
storm
input
was
from
this
last
storm.
You
put
that
into
the
hydraulic
model,
and
you
see
how
the
you
know.
M
The
system
responds
with
these
improvements,
and
then
you
tweak
it
and
through
that
process,
then
you
get
to
a
solution
that
should
work
for
these
different
levels
of
storm
and
and
that
that
preliminary
engineering
work
is
so
vitally
important,
because
if
you
don't
do
it,
you
really
don't
know
the
benefits
the
full
benefits
of
what
you're
accomplishing,
because,
like
I
say
just
just
doing,
the
separation
can
help
to
a
degree,
but
it
still
doesn't
solve
all
the
flooding
issues
and
we
know
from
other.
You
know:
cities
such
as
champaign.
M
You
know
they
had
issues
with
flooding
alone
along
the
boneyard.
They
did
a
big
project
a
few
years
ago
called
the
john
street
basin.
It's
had
a
real
positive
influence
in
an
older
part
of
the
community
with
flooding,
and
I
think
that
the
basins
that
we're
talking
about
could
have
that
impact.
There's
a
potential
that
there's
other
locations
that
maybe
some
basins
would
have
a
positive
impact
as
well.
Another
site
might
be
the
old
rail
yard,
there's
flooding
up
there
in
the
northern
part
of
bloomington
along
north
madison
street
and
some
other
ones.
M
Perhaps
a
basin
up
there
strategically
place.
Could
help
that's
not
been
modeled,
so
there's
that's
when
we
said
in
the
slide
presentation.
You
know
we'd
like
to
do
some
select,
watersheds
or
sewer
sheds
to
model
them
to
see.
What
can
we
do
to
help
those
in
particular
and
then,
of
course,
over
over
time,
I'd
love
to
have
a
good
model
of
the
whole
city.
We
have
one
for
the
water
distribution
system,
but
we
don't
have
it
for
the
sewer
and
storm
water
systems,
and
you
know
back
when
I
started
my
career
at
the
city.
M
It
would
have
taken
a
craze
super
computer
to
try
to
run
this
stuff,
and
now
the
desktop
computers
and
the
software
are
so
advanced
that
they
can
give
us
really
good
information.
It's
just
getting
good
data
and
getting
getting
a
good
model
to
get
good
results,
and
so
I
really
think
the
big
big
focus
needs
to
be
modeling
to
figure
out
the
next
steps
for
other
parts
of
the
city.
N
If,
if
our
basins
are
doing
what
we
intend
for
them
to
do
so,
I
guess
I
would
just
want
to
say
instead
of
let's:
let's
do
it
all
just
you
know,
let's,
let's
prioritize,
let's
determine
what
makes
the
most
sense
and
and
do
so
as
quickly
as
possible,
so
that
that
we
can
actually
implement
some
of
this
infrastructure
work
going
forward.
I
think
that's
really
important,
and
just
just
a
final
comment.
This
this
conversation
about
infrastructure
is
is
exceedingly
important,
but
it's
it's
separate.
N
Q
Yeah,
thank
you
kevin
for
the
report
and
all
could
you
move
your
microphone
so
that
you
I
was
having
trouble
hearing
for
the
general
public
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
up
until
this
point,
sewer
funding
is
from
the
enterprise
fund,
which
is
basically
taken
from
the
water
bill.
Correct.
Q
And
pretty
much
everybody
pays
their
fair
share
because
it's
based
on
usage.
A
Q
A
Q
It
covers
this,
the
storm
sewers,
the
underground
storm
sewers,
the
stream
erosion,
the
detention
basins
and
the
bloomington-normal
water
reclamation
district,
because
some
of
the
storm
water
goes
down
and
gets
processed
in
that
plant.
Correct.
Q
Well,
I
guess
my
point
is:
is
that
that
little
portion
of
our
water
bill,
okay,
sewer
bloomington.
M
Q
Well,
my
you
know
my
point:
is
it's
not
a
lot
of
money
yeah,
and
I
do
think
that,
like
sheila
said
and
nick
and
and
julie,
we
really
need
to
focus
on
the
infrastructure.
We
need
to
get
it
finished
as
best
as
possible.
Q
You
are
the
smartest
person
in
the
room
as
far
as
engineering
goes
and
public
works,
and
I
would
like
you
to
present
your
recommendations
for
how
to
take
care
of
that
downstream
thing,
and
you
mentioned
the
downtown
detention
basin.
Is
that
where
that
old
meat
packing
plant
is.
Q
Q
Occasionally
I've
had
the
sewers
cleaned
out
in
my
neighborhood
where
they
come
and
do
pressurized
clean
out,
and
they
recommend
that
you
cover
your
basement
drain
and
put
a
towel
over
your
toilet
seat
so
that
water
doesn't
come
back
in.
So
when
there
is
that
much
force
going
through
sewers,
it
will
come
back
up
through
the
basement
train
in
the
toilets.
Even
on
the
first
floor
because
that'll
happen
to
me,
water
was
coming
out
of
the
toilet
on
the
first
floor.
Q
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
krabill
and
then
crumpler
and
matt.
E
Kevin
thank
you
great
presentation
again,
a
couple
of
things
that
I
picked
out.
While
you
were
going
through
there.
One
is,
you
said
that
paved
surfaces
make
things
worse
right,
because
there
is
no
possibility
for
the
ground
to
even
attempt
to
absorb
it,
and
so
the
areas
that
we
have
in
the
city,
where
we
have
a
significant
amount
of
pavement,
actually
can
cause
issue.
Be
that
parking,
lots
or
streets
the
more
the
wider
the
streets
are
the
more
possible
issues
we
have.
Is
that
a
fair
statement?
E
Hence
the
conversation
about
ponds,
one
of
the
things
you
showed
us
a
couple:
pictures
of
of
detention
basins
and
the
one
detention
basin
did
overflow
and
you
showed
us
the
path
of
where
it
went
and
at
the
size
that
basin
just
curious.
Does
that
mean
that
we
should
go
back
and
dig
that
basin
deeper
to
add
additional
capacity
to
that
basin?
I'm
just
what
the
what
kind
of
recommendations
happen.
With
that
scenario.
M
There
could
be
some
other
opportunities
on
basins
that
big
that
the
the
outlets
for
a
basin
a
lot
of
times
are
just
a
single
stage
outlet,
and
what
that
means
is
that
let's
say
that
basin
has
a
24
inch
pipe
for
an
outlet.
You
know
the
pipes
coming
into.
It
might
be
eight
foot
in
diameter,
but
it
restricts
what's
going
out
of
it.
A
multi-stage
basin
might
have
two
pipes
instead
of
one
and
one
pipes
up
higher
than
the
other
one,
so
that,
as
the
basin
fills
up,
it
starts
letting
more
water
out.
M
So
it
doesn't
overflow
right
away,
but
it
does
a
lot
of
benefit
for
small
storms
and
helps
out
big
storms
too,
and
that
that
is
a
fairly
recent
thing
that
is
more
becoming
standard,
but
most
of
our
basins
were
designed
at
a
time
with
a
single
stage
outlet
and
not
multi-stage
or
two-stage
or
whatever.
That
might
be.
So
that's
something
that
we
could
consider
too
for
the,
because
the
basins
in
ideal
world
would
be
at
capacity
in
the
worst
rain,
which
is
you
know,
designed
for
the
100
year.
M
E
E
Side
questions
only
only
tangentially
connected
to
this
conversation
is,
you
were
talking
about
the
amount
of
water
that
would
have
filled
like
bloomington
and
like
evergreen
is
there
you
know
we've
in
past
council
meetings,
we've
talked
about
the
need
to
increase,
increase
our
water
capacity
in
terms
of
our
freshwater
system.
E
E
The
the
the
pond
that's
near
the
public
works
area
is
actually
we're
using
most
of
that
area.
Right
now,
for
various
things
for
vehicle
storage
and
parking
for
the
citizens
convenience
center,
instead
of
having
it
on
the
north
side
of
the
tracks
where
it
was
in
that
circle,
is
there
a
possibility
to
put
in
the
south
side
of
the
tracks
where
the
old
bus
barn
was
or
is
that
not
a
big
enough
area?
I
was
just
thinking.
I
don't
want
to
move
all
those
buildings
or
have
to
put
that
in
a
conversation.
M
The
south
side
is
a
smaller
footprint,
it's
also
more
more
elevated,
so
there's
more
earth
to
remove
and
potentially
a
bigger
wall
there.
But
I
think
that,
as
we
would
look
to
do
some
additional
modeling
there
to
see
what
the
right
size
is,
we
could
look
at
that
as
an
option.
E
Okay,
I
think
that
my
point
of
view,
I
think,
you're
going
to
get
pretty
unanimous
support
to
do
as
billy
proposed
and
we're
in
the
design
phase.
Right
now
for
one
of
the
sections
of
this
locus
colton,
and
if
we
spend
the
money
now
we
can
redesign
that
move
the
timetable
up.
I
think
we're
going
to
get
unanimous
support
for
something
of
that
nature
to
to
make
that
happen
now.
E
So
I
would
like
to
see
my
proposals
I'd
like
to
see
us
start
making
those
moves
to
make
that
happen
right
now.
At
the
same
time
as
that,
we
can
start
doing
things
like
schedule.
The
watershed,
hydro,
mapping
that
you
were
talking
about
as
well
in
order
to
make
educated
decisions,
but
we
can
we
can
start
moving
on
the
cso
right
now
at
the
same
time
as
we
do
that
other
stuff.
E
So
I
would
like
to
see
those
two
ponds
get
built,
because
I
do
understand
that
the
more
water
we
remove
from
the
system,
the
less
likely
we
are
to
have
these
issues
right.
Your
analogy
of
a
highway
system,
that's
congested
with
cars
is
the
best
analogy.
E
D
Thank
you
mayor.
I
want
to
talk,
I
guess
a
little
bit
about
making
sure
that
the
solutions
we
have
are
equitable,
so
it
sounds
like
in
the
next
five
years
in
the
five-year
plan.
Most
of
that
money
is
going
to
go
to
locust
colton.
Is
that
correct.
D
Right,
and
did
I
hear
a
number-
I
don't
know
what
meeting
it
was
to
complete
locus
colton
was
25
million.
D
Is
that
yeah
it's
close
to
that
yeah,
so
so,
basically,
that
would
take
more
than
potential
the
funds
we
have
from
the
from
the
american
rescue
plan
to
do
that.
Just
the
numbers,
but
I
did
not
see
in
there
any
anything
about
separating
combined
sewers
other
than
in
locust
colton.
D
M
M
Once
again,
I
recommend
hydraulic
modeling
to
see
what
what
the
impacts
of
separations
are
and
what
might
be
needed
to
help
with
the
flooding,
because
just
just
suffering
the
sewer
can
help
reduce
basement
backup.
So
to
speak,
but
the
surface
flooding
is
still
a
major
impact
and
if
the
surface
flooding
is
still
there,
you
haven't
necessarily
solved
all
the
all
the
flooding
issues.
So.
D
Has
there
been
any
like
when
we
talk
about
the,
I
guess,
the
2014
master
plan
and
it
did
an
analysis
I
think,
on
locus
colton
in
part,
as
well
as
the
oakland
watershed
right
right
was:
has
there
been
any
anything
like
that
done
or
maybe
doesn't
need
to
be
done
further
west.
M
Town,
it
still
needs
to
be
done.
I
mean
the
the
master
plan
did
some
modeling,
but
not
complete,
modeling.
That's
where,
in
the
recommendations
we
would
want
to
do
selected
modeling
to
you
know.
Ideally
we,
like
I
say
we
would
model
our
whole
sewer
system,
which
is
a
great
goal,
but
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
goes
into
developing
the
model
and
calibrating
it.
M
Because
not
only
do
you
need
the
diameters
of
all
the
pipes,
you
need
the
elevations
at
each
manhole
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
field
survey,
work
that
goes
into
that
as
well.
So
that's
where
our
recommendation
and
we'll
get
back
with
our
team
and
figure
out
where
those
select
areas
should
be
and
what
we
think
that
will
cost
and
try
to
get
that
moving
along.
M
But
you
know
I
don't
foresee
doing
the
whole
city
right
away,
but
doing
those
areas
that
are
critical,
that
we
may
already
have
a
start
on
because,
like
you
said
locus,
colton
was
modeled
the
oakland
that
contributes
into
the
mazefield
cso
areas.
Some
of
that
was
modeled
in
some
of
that
through
downtown,
but
there's,
I
think,
more
modeling
to
be
done
and
also
updates
the
model
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
get.
You
know
good
information
in
so
we
get
good
information
out.
D
M
D
D
D
M
D
M
D
Oh,
is
there
anything
that
would
show
kind
of
what
like
what
damage
from
the
from
the
recent
storms
were
were
flooding
and
what
damage
was
sewer
right?
Is
there
any
has
do
we
know
that
or
have
any
kind
of
mapping
of
that,
or
did
I
just
miss
it,
and
it's
somewhere.
M
Yeah,
no,
we
haven't
prepared
a
comprehensive
map
of
that.
We
have.
You
know
in
the
data
from
pma
claims
or
the
data
from
ema
there's
different
information
that
was
collected,
and
it's
almost
looking
at
each
record
and
trying
to
do
some
interpretations
of
what
was
said
to
figure
out.
Was
this
a
result
of
a
basement
backup
from
a
sewer?
Was
this
a
problem
with
a
sump
pump
failure?
Was
this
a
problem
with
groundwater
leaking
in
through
the
foundation
wall?
Was
it
a
problem
with
a
window?
Well
that
flooded
and
got
water
through
a
window?
M
There's
all
these
different
scenarios,
and
it
really
takes
quite
a
bit
of
effort
just
to
look
at
each
record
and
then
come
up
with
a
determination.
We
have
not
taken
the
time
to
do
that.
Our
folks
have
been
busy
trying
to
help
people
when
they
call
in
and
solve
problems
and
do
other
things.
So
we
were
able
to
just
take
the
data
that
was
given
to
us
and
map
what
we
could
right,
but
that
level
of
detail.
We
can't
do
yet.
D
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
I
thought
you
mentioned,
like
part
of
the
city.
Isn't
a
fema
flood
plain?
It
is
so
people
in
that
plane.
You
may
not
know
this,
and
but
they
may,
they
may
be
able
to
to
obtain
flood
insurance.
M
Yeah,
the
the
the
properties
that
are
in
a
fema
flood
plain
fall
in
a
different
category
for
some
of
that
stuff,
sure
and
and
interestingly
enough,
most
of
the
pma
claims
are
not
in
fema
floodplains.
D
Okay,
one
last
thing
I
just
wanted
to
point
out.
I
understand
just
learning.
With
regard
to
the
overhead
sewer
system,
I
was
told
that
community
development
actually
sometimes
pays
for
the
rest
through
cdbg
funds.
J
Thank
you,
mayor,
kevin
again,
thanks
for
your
time
this
evening.
I
certainly
always
learn
a
lot
listening
to
your
presentations.
Actually,
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
jeff's
question
the
overhead
sewer
program,
so
I
guess
I'm
really
interested
in
individual
homeowners,
age,
owned
agency.
You
know
to
make
enact
structural
changes,
and
so,
if
someone
applies
for
that
program,
the
application
comes
to
the
city.
How
long
does
it
take
to
process
that
kind
of
thing.
M
I
think
that
process
probably
can
take
at
least
a
month
from
the
standpoint
of
there
is
requirements
that
the
sewer
service
be
televised
and
and
if
there's
defects
in
it
fixed
before
the
overhead
sewer
program
goes
in,
the
city
works
with
the
the
homeowner
to
for
their
individual
circumstances,
to
figure
out
how
that
system
needs
to
be
installed
in
their
basement,
and
then
that
gets
like
quotes
or
bids.
If
you
will
and
has
to
be
awarded
by
the
city,
so
I
think
that
process
can
take
over
a
month.
J
Yeah-
and
I
guess
I'm
thinking
about
the
notion
of
acceleration-
I
mean
I-
I
really
appreciate
all
the
comments
from
my
fellow
council
members
this
evening
about
trying
to
accelerate
this
process.
If
there
were
additional
funding
in
something
like
the
overhead
sewer
program
could
blocks
of
of
homeowners,
whose
property
you
know
who
were
trying
to
improve
their
their
sewer
lines
with
the
overhead
sewer
program.
Could
those
be
accelerated
in
a
program
like
that
as
well?
J
You
know,
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
think
about.
I
I
realize
you
know
the
length
of
time
it's
going
to
take
to
get
some
of
this
work
done,
but
I'm
also
interested
in
what
mitigations
we
might
be
able
to.
You
know
come
up
with
you
know,
to
help
people
in
the
in
the
meantime,
and
it
seems
like
that
this
overhead
sewer
program
could
be
something
like
that.
Would
that
be
a
fair.
M
J
Okay,
great
that's
all
I
had
thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
council.
I
think
awesome.
L
Go
ahead,
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
when
we
said
expediting
locus
colton,
it
is
expediting
phases,
four
and
five,
and
what
that
means
is
not
the
whole
project.
But
what
that
means
is
that
you
will
have
completed
phases,
one
through
seven,
one
through
seven
of
a
nine
phase
project.
If
you
expedite
those
last
two
phases,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
wasn't
misleading
or
misspeaking
to
that.
B
P
C
Would
you
mind
just
want
to
make
sure
that
council
member
carrillo
didn't
want
to
comment.
B
G
G
B
It
doesn't
look
like
there's
anybody
else.
I
guess
my
my
question
is
for
for
staff.
You
know
again,
I,
as
I
stated
earlier,
there
is
a
desire
to
expedite
this
and
and
it's
probably
for
city
manager
gleason.
So
what
can
we
expect
in
terms
of
a
a
plan,
not
only
timelines
but
as
well
as
finances?
You
know
how
we
finances.
K
I
think
it's
pretty
clear
after
tonight's
discussion
that
staff
need
to
come
back
to
council
with
recommendations
based
on
the
conversation
tonight,
and
that
is
what's
it
going
to
take
to
expedite
and
then
also
also
the
mitigation
possibilities
that
we
have,
and
we
understand
that
now
I
mean
in
past
conversations.
Staff
was
really
left
to.
Are
we
going
to
start
preparing
a
relief
program,
direct
aid
to
the
victims
of
this
storm?
Are
we?
Is
there
a
level
of
satisfaction
with
the
plan?
That's
already
been
in
place,
it's
not
like
there's
not
a
plan.
K
B
B
Let's
much
here
sorry,
my
computer
went
to
sleep
for
a
second
okay.
So
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
council
initiative
that
is
to
be
presented
by
council
member
ward,
which
is
to
create
a
plan
to
provide
near-term
financial
assistance
to
residents
whose
property
was
flooded
with
sewage
during
the
storms
of
june
26,
25
26..
B
B
Council,
member
ward
is
going
to
present
her
initiative
and
then,
after
that
people
will
have
you
know
we
basically
have
three
minutes
for
her
to
present
and
then
another
three
minutes
for
people
to
say
whether
or
not
the
initiative
should
move
forward.
Okay,
that's
my
award.
F
Thank
you.
So,
hopefully
everybody
can
hear
me.
The
the
item
that,
as
the
mayor
has
just
read,
is
also
on
the
agenda.
So
I'm
not
going
to
reread
that
really.
The
purpose
of
this
is
for
us
to
not
lose
sight
that,
yes,
we
need
to
attend
to
the
longer
term
big
picture
issues
to
prevent
this
kind
of
thing
from
happening,
but
there
are
people
who
have
been
affected
by
this.
F
And
so
all
this
initiative
does
is
to
simply
direct
staff
to
please
come
up
with
some
ideas,
recommendations
for
where
we
can
get
some
money
to
provide
assistance
to
people
who
have
been
damaged
by
the
the
events
of
the
25th
and
26th
of
june.
We
have
people
who
have
have
holes
in
their
foundations
that
are
big
enough
for
you
to
drive
a
car
through
who
have
mud,
wet
mud
in
their
basement.
F
Knee
deep
still,
I'd
I'd
be
happy
to
take
you
on
a
tour
or
show
you
pictures
of
this,
and
these
people
don't
have
the
funds
there.
There
are
other
programs
that
have
been
raised,
for
example,
the
sba
loans
and
I'm
hearing
from
people
that
they
don't
make
enough
money
to
qualify
for
a
loan
like
this.
F
F
My
proposal
is
that
we
direct
city
staff
to
come
up
with
a
plan
in
the
near
term
to
provide
financial
assistance
to
people
who
have
been
affected
by
the
storm
and
that
we
move.
That
forward
is
that
clear.
B
Okay
and
is
that
option
number
two
then
it
sounds
to
me
like
it's
option.
Two.
F
J
So
there's
there's
no
option
one
or
three
we're
only
considering
two.
B
I
P
A
These
future
ideas
and
then
get
a
second
to
that
and
and
that
could
be
voted
on
so
really
what
we
need
is
direction
to
staff
at
this
point,
so
so
that
comes.
This
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
can
do
at
the
committee
of
the
whole
would
be
to
have
a
motion
that
is
made
and
those
are
kind
of
the
three
options
that
are
outlined,
but
each
of
those
could
come
in
the
form
of
a
motion.
F
B
E
Q
O
Thank
you.
I'm
still
not
quite
sure,
I'm
clear
on
what
I'm
saying
yes
or
no
too
there's
been
no
parameter
given
in
terms
of
funding
source
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
talking
about.
I
can't
get
my
head
around
the
logistics
of
all
of
this
and
I
feel
like
there
needs
to
be
an
opportunity
for
conversation
around
that,
I'm
incredibly
sympathetic
to
the
situation
and
the
plight
of
the
people
in
our
community.
O
If
I
say
yes,
then
we're
going
to
deflect
the
attention
away
from
fixing
this
problem
and
diffuse
it
with
looking
at
a
near-term
opportunity
that
won't
necessarily
be
in
alignment
with
what
I
think
is
best
for
the
community
in
terms
of
our
obligations-
and
I
know
I'm
still
learning
the
procedure
here
with
these
council
initiatives,
I'm
just
uncomfortable
with
the
lack
of
information
that
I
have
to
say
that
it's
okay
to
go
ahead
and
prepare
a
proposal
to
actually
do
it.
If,
if
that
makes
sense,.
C
C
Two
is
the
staff
evaluation
and
then
three
is
no.
I
don't
want
to
hear
about
it
on
an
agenda
and
if
that
happens,
it
can't
be
brought
back
full
back
again
for
a
certain
time
period.
So
with
number
two,
it's
kind
of
a
combination
of
number
one.
You
are
going
to
get
that
opportunity
to
still
discuss
and
consider
things
forward.
They'll
just
come
with
more
information,
just
saying
that
for
claire.
B
And
I-
and
I
should
add
that
if
you,
if
you
look
at
the
council
initiative,
it's
I
think
it
calls
for
minimal
amount
of
work
by
staff.
Was
that
five
five
to
ten
hours
right
is
that
something.
O
I'm
fine
with
having
the
conversation
so
long
as
really
it's
not
going
to
be
a
distraction
for
these
very
people
who
are
trying
to
solve
the
root
cause
of
the
problem
for
the
societal
good
for
the
longer
term.
Here,
that's
where
I
feel
like.
We
need
to
keep
our
focus.
If
I'm
saying
yes
just
to
agree
to
the
conversation
which
I
thought
was
option,
one
which
we
weren't
voting
on,
that's
that's
where
I'm
getting
a
bit
hung
up
so
you're
saying
that
option.
One
and
option
two
here
are
folded
in
together.
O
I
have
again
a
sincere
empathy
for
the
plight
of
what
has
been
faced
here
by
our
community,
but
under
that
circumstance,
where
we're
already
going
to
prepare
a
plan,
I
I
don't
feel
that
that's
our
role
and-
and
I
would
say
then
no
okay.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
council,
member
emig.
Yes,.
N
There
we
go,
I
don't
think
it's
mutually
exclusive
and
what
we
are
asking
staff
to
do
is
to
prepare
some
information
to
to
evaluate
those
parameters
that
could
inform
a
discussion
and
I
think
it
it
the
the
time
spent
on
it
would
even
come
from
a
different
source.
So
I
vote
yes.
P
From
information
we've
already
been
given,
I
kind
of
think
our
hands
are
actually
tied
behind
the
scenes
to
whether
we
can
do
this
or
not
so
I'm
gonna,
say
no
and
similar
to
sheila's
comments,
but
I
don't
think
we
can
do
this.
The
way
it's
stated
legally
anyway.
There's
a
lot
of
parameters
that
are.
Everybody
might
not
be
aware
of
that
limit
how
the
city
council
can
act,
and
this
falls
into
that,
so
we
have
to
follow
the
law.
C
C
G
Think
it's
a
great
idea.
I
thank
you,
council,
member
ward,
for
bringing
it
forward
and
yeah.
I
agree
with
you.
It's
absolutely
our
role
and
our
responsibility
to
assist
residents
that
are
hurting
and
those
things
are
not
mutually
exclusive,
but
there
are
folks
who,
as
you
mentioned,
still
have
not
gotten
back
to
normal
and
we
can't
think
about
the
long
term
if
people
are
suffering
and
not
able
to
live
their
lives
in
the
immediate
term,
so
I
yeah
I'll
support
it.
D
Yeah,
I
don't
think
our
hands
are
tied
and
I
think
we
can
walk
and
chew
gum
at
the
same
time.
D
You
know
if
and
and
if
the
state
can
give
us
money
right,
how
I
don't
see
how
we
have
less
flexibility
to
give
our
own
residents
money
and
also
too,
we
would
talk
about
logistics
if
we
get
state
money,
we're
going
to
have
to
determine
those
logistics
of
how
to
spend
that
money
as
well-
and
you
know,
I
think
this
should
be
focused
on
the
poorest
of
our
residents
that
are
having
trouble
just
mitigating
the
you
know
versus
even
rebuilding
versus
mitigating.
So
I
would
say
yes.
J
You
know
I'm
I'm
really.
I
mean
this
flood
was
devastating
and
we've
heard
you
know
so
much
information
and
testimony
that
that's
the
case,
and
I
I
am
so
sympathetic,
you
know
to
what
the
needs
of
our
community.
You
know
I'm
worried,
I
look
at
the
illinois
constitution
and
it
only
seems
to
allow
use
of
public
funds
for
public
purposes
and,
to
be
honest
with
you,
I'm
really
concerned
about
using
public
tax
dollars
in
a
in
a
relief
fund.
You
know-
and
I
just
am
not
certain.
J
I
guess
I
feel
somewhat
like
like
sheila
does
I
wish
I
you
know
I
wish
I
could
hear
some
other
additional
information
and
some
additional
discussion
before
I
vote
to
charge
staff
with
moving
forward
on
this.
You
know
I
I
just
feel
like.
I
would
benefit
from
some
more
information.
I
understand
completely.
You
know
the
timeliness
of
this,
but
but
I
just
don't
want
to
do
anything
that
goes
against
some
illinois
statutes.
J
So
in
this
case
I'm
going
to
vote
no.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
I
I
think
we
have
a
it's
five
to
four
right,
so
the
item
passes
and
madam
clerk,
would
you
please
announce
the
denise.
B
Okay.
Thank
you
all
very
much
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
our
cd
manager's
report.
K
Thank
you
mayor
and
council.
We
have
a
handful
of
comments.
I
know
we're
running
along
tonight
on
what
I
believe
to
be
a
very
good
council
meeting,
a
committee
of
the
whole
meeting
rather
phil.
If
you
would
put
up
the
first
slide,
bloomington
parks
fall,
2021,
bloomington,
resident
registration
begins
august
26th,
that's
next
week,
and
non-regis
resident
registration
begins
the
week
right
before
labor
day
next
slide.
Please
new
bcpa
season
is
announced.
You
can
see
that
at
arts
blooming
is
that
art
blooming
or
artsbloomington
artsblooming.org
all
right
next
slide.
K
K
Michael
was
a
contract
employee
and
became
a
full-time
employee
of
the
city
and
a
nice
hire
there
with
michael
and
additionally,
I
wanted
to
share
just
a
quick
over
update.
We
still
remain
in
the
level
that
we
have
been
the
past
couple
of
weeks
after
the
governor's
office
made.
The
changes
all
eyes
are
on
the
universities,
illinois,
state
and
illinois
westland
working
very
closely
with
both
presidents
and
cooperation
with
them
mclean
county
health
department,
so
all
eyes
on
students.
K
Returning
to
the
community
and
realized
that
it's
not
entirely
about
that
population,
but
then
know
that
we're
gonna
have
an
influx
of
residents
to
the
communities
and
then,
lastly,
we
had
the
police
chief
finalist
meet
and
greet.
We
have
two
finalists
that
were
here
just
prior
to
the
committee
of
the
whole
meeting
that
is
deputy
director
jamal
simmington.
K
He
is
illinois
state
police
for
nearly
25
years,
then
also
the
other
finalist
is
chief
kenny,
winslow
25,
plus
your
25
plus
year
veteran
with
springfield
police
department.
It
was
well
attended,
appreciate
the
the
community
coming
out
and
also
ask
that
if
you
have
any
comments
that
you
would
like
to
share
with
me,
we're
going
to
collect
those
via
email
and
I'm
going
to
ask
deputy
city
manager
to
help
me
out
with
that
real
quick
and
that's
going
to
be
up
and
in
place
through
close
of
business
on
wednesday.
B
Thank
you
and
I
think
we
are
ready
to
adjourn
so
is
it
a
motion
to
adjourn.