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August 26, 2013 - City Council Meeting
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G
Thank
you
very
much
well
good
evening,
mayor
city
manager,
city
council,
members
of
the
audience
and
city
staff
where
tonight
we're
very
pleased
to
present
the
2013
beautification
Awards.
Many
of
you
have
seen
us
here
about
the
same
time
every
in
previous
years
presenting
and
we're
glad
to
be
back
again
this
year,
we're
to
present
the
same
type
of
awards,
both
residential
and
non-residential
awards
that
really
recognize
properties
that
contribute
significantly
to
the
positive
appearance
of
Bloomington.
G
This
year
the
committee
has
selected
nine
residential
properties
and
three
non
residential
properties
to
receive
awards
before
I
begin.
I
would
like
to
just
recognize
all
of
the
beautification
committee
members.
Many
of
them
are
here
tonight
who
have
worked
so
hard
on
this
program.
Over
the
last
few
months,
Josh
Barnett,
Patricia,
Marin,
Marlene,
Gregor,
Martha,
Burk
and
Raquel
Robin
van
der
may
Julie
Morton
Tammy
winners,
sue
Floyd,
Val,
dumb,
sir
amy
davis,
amy
krouse,
jan
lauterman
and
jeff
Henman,
I,
hope,
I
didn't
leave
him.
How
you
have
it
did.
G
G
And
we're
pleased
to
acknowledge
that
we
have
a
full
committee,
a
full
slate
of
committee
members.
We
haven't
had
that
for
a
while
and
we're
very
pleased
to
have
12
full-time
members.
Most
of
our
ward
recipients
are
here
tonight.
I
think
there
may
be
a
couple
no-shows,
but
we'll
we'll
proceed
anyway.
What
I'll
do
is
what
I've
done
typically
in
the
past
will
show
some
slides
of
each
property
and
I'll
call
those
recipients
or
property
owners
up
one
at
a
time
to
receive
their
ward.
So
without
further
ado,
let's
get
started.
Thank
you.
G
Our
first
property
owner
tonight
is
David
and
Janet
Holman.
They
live
at
2301,
Revere
rode.
This
is
a
newer
property.
That's
located
in
the
northeast
corner
of
Bloomington
way
up
in
the
northeast
side.
It's
a
very
attractive
front
yard
and
side
yard,
a
lot
of
extensive
plantings
and
around
really
the
entire
property
there's
an
exceptional
amount
of
color
and
a
quite
a
variety
of
plant
material.
G
G
Our
next
property
owner
is
David
and
jodel
heirs.
They
live
at
1125,
east
grove
street.
This
is
a
Victorian
home.
That's
really
caught
our
eye
several
times
as
we
went
up
and
down
gross
street,
we
wanted
to
significant
or
signify
it
with
an
award
tonight.
A
lot
of
abundant
plantings,
very
lush
kind
of
property.
Very
neat
very
well
maintained
quite
striking
really
overall,
and
we
rethought
that
this
really
enhances
the
entire
neighborhood
and
the
community
as
well.
So
David
and
jodel
are
you
here
tonight:
yeah
they're
they're,
here
great.
G
Our
third
award
goes
to
Lucas
and
Megan
winters.
They
live
at
eight
Tammy
court.
This
is
another
very
neat,
a
single-family
home,
that's
in
Bloomington.
It's
on
the
west.
Arms
are
on
the
east
side,
well
maintained
just
off
of
emerson
street.
This
has
a
real
attractive
street
presence,
its
complement,
of
course,
by
the
landscaping
and
all
the
plantings
and
overall
we
thought
it
had
a
real
refreshing
and
inviting
appearance.
So
we
were
pleased
to
give
it
a
work
to
lucas
and
megan.
G
Our
next
award
winner
goes
to
Mike
manna
mike
is
the
property
owner
at
8,
12,
8,
40,
north
prairie
street,
and
as
soon
as
you
see
this
photo,
many
of
you
may
recognize.
This
we've
been
watching
this
property
over
the
last
couple
years.
This
is
the
so
Ferber
house.
It's
locating
the
Franklin
Square
historic
district.
It's
really
gone
through
a
wonderful
transformation
here
in
the
last
couple
years
it
was
originally
built
in
5990
1859,
not
1952,
1859
has
battalion
8th.
Then
it
had
a
queen
anne-style
addition
of
several
years
later
it
was
abandoned.
G
It
was
kind
of
left
for
foreclosure
by
2009,
and
then
it
was
actually
on
the
landmark
Illinois
10
most
endangered
list
in
2011
the
owner,
though
Mike
man
has
really
worked
hard
to
not
only
stabilize
it
and
repair
the
home
he's
really
restore
the
home
back
to
its
former
glory.
Overall,
we
just
thought
this
is
an
outstanding,
an
example
of
beautification,
really
very
delightful
and
a
pleasant
present
to
erudition
back
to
the
city
of
Bloomington.
So
we're
pleased
to
award
our
beautification
work
to
Mike
Nana
Mike.
Are
you
here.
G
G
Our
next
property
is
on
3211
suffolk
way.
This
is
the
home
of
Denise.
Coveney
denise
has
really
done
a
very
nice
job
of
keeping
her
property
well
maintained.
This
is
towards
on
the
east
side
neighborhood,
it's
an
established
neighborhood.
It's
really
has
a
lot
of
curb
appeal,
the
front
porch,
of
course,
and
all
the
landscaping
really
combined
to
make
it
an
inviting
a
very
delightful
kind
of
presentation.
Overall
get
another
well
done:
elegant
property,
Denise!
Congratulations!.
G
The
next
home
is
Frances
and
Vicki.
Here's
Rica
they're
on
fourth
plinth
Court.
This
is
up
again
now
you
can
see
on
the
map.
They're,
just
east
of
wall
bittner
park
in
bloomington.
This
property
struck
us
right
away
with
it's
very
impressive
landscaping,
very,
very
well,
not
knowing
necessary,
formally
done,
but
really
just
handsomely
done
very
colorful,
very
inviting
very
meticulous,
just
an
awesome
presentation.
So
congratulations,
Vicky
I
understand
you
here
tonight
receive
the
word.
G
Our
next
property
owners
live
at
204,
South,
Mercer
Avenue.
This
is
Julie
Hoffman
and
sherry
Miller.
Some
of
you
may
recognize
this
property.
It's
on
South
Mercer,
there's
a
prominent
side
yard.
This
is
the
front
yard,
but
we're
slides
we'll
get
around
to
the
side
yard
here
that
they've
really
recently
added
newer
plantings
dispense,
really
gives
it
a
nice
public
appearance
on
that
side
street.
So
we
thought
overall,
this
was
a
very
positive
contribution
to
that
neighborhood
and
we're
pleased
to
give
them
an
award
jolie,
sherry.
G
And
our
last
but
not
least,
residential
winner
tonight
is
the
home
of
Greg
Shaw
and
Molly
Ward.
They
lived
1104
North
Roosevelt.
This
is
another
charming,
victorian
property
that
we
discovered
on
the
west
side.
Obviously,
a
very
colorful
paint
scheme
that
really
adds
to
the
whole
curve
appeal
of
the
property,
there's
several
planting
details,
and
that
also
adds
to
the
whole
effect.
Overall,
we
thought
was
really
quite
striking
and
a
great
example
of
a
delightful
property
in
Bloomington
Greg
Molly.
G
Turning
our
attention
to
non-residents
Awards,
we
have
three
of
those
tonight.
The
first
one
is
evangelical
free
church.
This
is
a
29
10
east
lincoln
street.
Many
of
you
may
recognize
this
church,
but
over
the
years
it's
really
gone
through
several
expansions
and
really
have
been
improved,
including
new
entrants,
new
sanctuary,
but
really
what
attracted
us
was
all
the
landscaping
and
I
think
over
the
last
couple
years
the
church
has
worked
hard
to
not
only
improve
that
with
plant
material,
but
signage
and
lighting
as
well.
G
The
entire
site
level
is
just
really
beautifully
done,
showcases,
obviously
a
lot
of
plans
or
variety
of
plants
and
really-
and
it
creates
an
overall
setting.
That
really
represents
the
significant
investment
in
the
community
as
a
church,
so
pastor,
brett
miley,
is
here
and
I
believe,
there's
one
Peggy
Drake
are
also
here
to
receive
the
award.
G
Our
next
non-residential
winners
in
downtown
Bloomington.
This
is
the
offices
of
Thompson
Weintraub
at
105
north
center
street.
It's
obviously
a
prominent
building
of
downtown
Bloomington.
It
wasn't
so
what's
the
building,
but
is
more
of
the
planning
the
window
boxes,
especially
that
caught
our
eye
and
this
type
of
landscape
when
we
felt
was
really
unique
and
it's
appropriate
for
an
urban
setting
on
office.
Building
like
this,
a
lot
of
colorful
plantings
in
the
window
boxes
are
really
significant.
G
Alright,
our
last
non-residential
winner
is
first
state
bank
on
50
to
north
her
Shiro.
This
is
a
recent
building
relatively
recent
on
the
commercial
strip
of
her.
She
rode
really.
The
landscaping
again
is
what
drew
RI
and
we
felt
it
really
enhanced
the
property,
the
bank
presence
on
that
corner.
It
adds
to
its
value
into
its
setting.
Overall,
it's
just
very
colorful,
very
tastefully
done
and,
of
course,
well-maintained.
G
G
B
B
Thank
you,
I'm,
going
to
move
around
move
right
along
to
item
5
b,
which
is
introduction
of
appointments
to
the
property
maintance.
I
do
want
to
see,
if
is
Mark
Williams
here
mark
hold
on
for
just
a
second
essentially
I,
just
want
to
add
a
little
bit
of
clarification.
I
have
been
working
with
ultimate
sage
and
all
the
woman
Schmidt
on
Commission
changes
to
our
ordinance.
B
We
have
also,
we
know
that
city
manager
has
worked
to
try
to
consolidate
the
building
boards,
and
so
I
was
basically
holding
off
on
making
any
additional
appointments
until
we
had
that
process
in
place.
However,
last
week
it
came
to
my
attention
that
my
one
of
my
assumptions
was
incorrect.
I
thought
that
back
in
May,
I
had
plugged
all
of
the
holes
that
were
necessary
for
boards
and
commissions
that
were
dangerous
in
danger,
possibly
not
even
having
a
quorum.
The
property
maintenance
review
board
is
one
of
those.
B
Now
in
a
little
bit
of
a
snafu,
I
was
not
necessarily
even
aware
well
within
about
24
hours.
I
had
two
people
who
had
agreed
to
serve,
who
were
tenants,
and
then
one
person
is
a
contractor.
Potentially
is
going
to,
let
me
know
either
suppose
let
me
know
today
or
tomorrow,
because
they
have
to
be
tenants
to
tenants
and
one
contractor,
and
so
we
will
have
a
full
board.
B
Unfortunately,
the
paper
only
the
paperwork
of
Mark
Williams
was
on
file.
Bobby
and
I
early
today
had
defined
it
Katie
it
was
was
on
vacation.
So
the
council
has
not
yet
had
the
opportunity
to
look
at
mark's
paperwork
so
mark
I,
wonder
if
you
would
be
willing
to
come
up
and
just
introduce
yourself.
We
will
act
on
this,
though
next
month.
I
think
in
fairness
to
the
council.
They
should
be
able
to
meet
you
but
be
able
to
see
your
paperwork's.
B
D
Oh
interesting,
okay,
my
name
is
Mark
Williams
I'm,
a
current
grad
student,
Ellen
oi
state
university
I
survived
my
first
week.
I
am
studying,
focusing
on
public
service
learning
about
the
functions
of
state
and
local
government
and
all
the
interactions
we
met
in
the
federal
government
as
well
and
I
really
like
reading.
So
I
guess
homeworks
right
up
my
alley
as
well.
So
there
are
any
I
guess:
questions
like
you
said:
I'm
feeling
happy
to
answer
them.
I
rest.
I
B
Any
other
questions.
Thank
you
mark
again
of
my
apologies.
We
won't
necessarily
ask
you
to
come
back
up
in
two
weeks,
but
again
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
council
has
the
opportunity
to
see
everyone's
paperwork
before
acting
on
this.
Thank
you
for
coming
and
appreciate
a
willingness
to
serve
thanks.
B
B
Do
we
need
to
remove
okay,
yes,
remove
you
make
a
motion
to
remove
6b,
actually
have
no
appointments.
I'm!
Sorry,
thank
you.
I
actually
can
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda,
except
for
six,
be
so
moved
move
by
ultimate
black
as
their
second
move,
a
second
by
all
the
woman
mcdade
any
discussion.
J
F
J
F
K
B
Motion
carried
and
again,
we
don't
need
to
act
on
six,
be
because
there
is
no
appointment
for
us
to
act
on
so
we'll
move
right
on
to
the
regular
agenda
item
7a,
review,
executive
session
minutes
from
1995
to
2013.
Actually,
it's
the
the
additional
minutes
or
from
2007
to
2013.
Again,
the
attorney
general's
office
has
made
it
clear
that
we
need
to
periodically
review
our
minutes
and
I
believe
it.
B
You
know,
August
was
our
rough
deadline,
I
I
said
we'd,
get
it
done
by
August
and
so
we're
getting
it
done
barely
by
the
end
of
august,
but
essentially
we
did
have
a
in
effect,
a
subcommittee,
a
workgroup,
informal
work
group
of
all
the
woman
stearns
ottoman
black
and
myself
that
went
through
the
executive
session
minutes
that
were
prepared
by
the
clerk,
and
we
did
have
unanimous
agreement
on
the
things
that
the
clerk
had
recommended
to
release.
There
were
some
questions
about
a
previous
city,
manager's
evaluations.
B
E
A
strong
supporter
of
the
public's
right
to
know
and
I
think
that,
in
particular,
the
shin,
the
city,
manager's
impact
and
and
effect
on
the
city
for
decades
is
really
I
mean
it
cannot
be
overemphasized.
Everything
from
you
know.
Tremendous
investments
such
as
the
Coliseum,
the
vcp,
a
two
projects,
large
and
small
TIF
districts
on
and
on,
are
heavily
influenced
by
and
there's
the
city
manager
plays
a
tremendous
role
in
that
and
I
am
an
advocate
of
letting
the
public
know
how
the
City
Council
evaluates
the
city
manager.
E
Now
some
feel
that
even
the
current
city,
manager's
evaluations
should
be
public
public
knowledge.
I
will
I
will
take
mild
exception
to
that,
but
I
do
feel
because
I
understand
the
current
personnel
situation,
other
city
councils.
Do
it
in
fact,
I
strongly
recommend
that
this
council
goes
on,
for
instance,
city
of
Evanston's
website.
They
will
list
for
you
all
of
the
executive
sessions
that
have
been
released
and
I
guarantee
you
that
the
percentage
is
quantum
leap
above
what
we
are
releasing,
in
fact,
transparency
wise,
it
just
simply
isn't
transparent
to
keep
it
a
secret.
E
E
I
would
like
to
say:
I
am
aware,
as
well
of
other
cities
who
have
attempted
to
retain
a
prior
city,
manager's
evaluations,
I've
researched
this
fairly
extensively,
and
in
fact,
that
city
was
sued
and
successfully
sued
by
the
media
to
release
the
executive
sessions
of
that
public
figure,
really,
which
is
what
a
city
manager
is
who
had
tremendous
impact
on
the
city
and
the
taxpayers.
I
just
believe
this.
All
of
us
have
taken
stance.
Various
stands
such
as
this
I
will
stand
by
mine,
I,
find
with
with
releasing
them
and
I.
E
Think
every
city
council
member
should
be
open
and
honest
about
the
stand
they
took
on
an
issue
as
important
as
our
last
city
manager.
So
therefore,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
amend
that
motion
that
we
also
release
the
following
executive
sessions,
which
had
to
do
with
the
evaluation
of
our
prior
city
manager,
Tom
Hamilton,
and
they
are
as
follows:
August
twenty-eighth
2006,
December,
10th,
2007,
January,
seventh
2008
februari,
11th,
2008
and
August
nineteenth
2008.
The
parts
of
those
executives
that
pertain
to
the
evaluation
of
our
last
city
manager
I
make.
B
E
B
So
no
emotion
I'd
like
to
make
it
so
that's
a
substitute
motion.
Is
there
a
second
to
that?
No
second
at
second,
by
alderman,
Lauer?
Okay!
So
now
we
want
we're
going
to
have
a
discussion
and
again
given
our
time
frame
here,
although
I'm
not
going
to
hold
us
to
15
minutes,
I
would
ask
us
to
be.
You
know,
can
find
our
remarks
to
a
minute
or
two
just
in
terms
of
the
some
of
the
research
all
the
women
Stearns
has
done.
B
I
had
mentioned
some
of
this
when
we
develop
talked
about
this
an
executive
session
about
releasing
that
concession
minutes.
Yet
in
the
there
are
many
communities
in
places
like
Washington,
Oregon,
Montana,
the
Dakotas
Wisconsin
Minnesota
that
do
release
executive
session
discussions
about
city
manager,
personnel
I
was
unable
to
find
any
necessarily
in
Illinois
I.
B
Don't
necessarily
know
that
that
precludes
it
from
happening,
and
there
are
some
places
that
do
release
a
executive
summary
every
year
of
a
city
managers
evaluation,
but
usually
it's
a
paragraph
or
two,
because
the
city
manager
is
in
some
cases
considered
to
be
a
different
type
of
employee
than
everyone
else.
So
this
is
obviously
a
serious
question
and
how
do
we
we
go
forward
and
proceed
our
community
to
the
north
and
peoria
decatur
other
places
do
not
release
their
the
executive
session
minutes.
B
I
I
This
is
an
interesting
question
for
us
to
andale,
namely
because
you
know
from
it
from
an
HR
perspective
and
my
day
job
as
and
human
resources,
it
can
be
touching
to
talk
about
personnel
issues,
and
it
could
put
us
it's
some
sort
of
a
position
where
might
be
having
to
call
to
defend
ourselves
if
it
precludes
for
future
employment,
we'd
be
very
careful
with
how
we
do
it.
However,
I
do
buy
into
the
idea
that
the
city
manager
is
a
special
employee
of
the
city.
We're
not
talking
about
investigations
that
are
dealing
with.
I
You
know
enter
employee
relations
and
for
me,
as
an
alderman
I,
really
view,
my
role
is
one
that's
accountable
to
the
citizens
and
the
citizens
have
a
right
to
know
what
the
discussion
was.
We
talk
about
our
city
manager,
because
that
is
this:
the
face
of
the
city.
That
being
said,
you
know
if
this
motion
were
to
fail.
I
will
absolutely
support
the
previous
motion
on
the
table,
because
I
think
that
we
need
to
get
these
minutes
out
into
the
public.
I
This
is
something
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
everyone's
aware
of
it,
everyone
has
access
to.
So
we
can
move
forward
and
some
of
the
discussion
might
turn
into
you
know
we
don't
want
to
look
backwards.
You
know
we
want
to
talk
about
looking
forward
and
I'm
all
for
that
I'm,
not
one
that
wants
to
look
in
the
past
and
place
blame
for
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
had
I
want
to
make
sure
that
would
be
consistent,
so
we
can
move
forward
because
to
me
I
want
you
know.
I
H
L
L
We
didn't
make
that
a
condition
of
David's
of
appointment
either.
I
will
also
remind
us
that
whenever
we
have
evaluation
of
our
city
manager
that
we
do
that
through
an
ordinance
that
shows
the
rankings
that
we
have
the
ranking
that
we
have
reached
and
I
certainly
remember
times
when
we've
had
alderman
who
have
voted
against
whatever
the
consensus
ranking
was
to
express
their
disapproval
and
I
just
think
as
a
concept.
It's
a
it's
a
very,
very
dangerous
thing
for
us
to
do
to
switch
gears,
we're
not
talking
about
releasing
pre
2007.
L
K
K
This
has
been
a
very
gray
area
to
say
the
very
least
over
the
last
six
months
or
so,
and
so
I
just
think
you
know
when,
when
we
do
speak
in
private,
there
are
some
things
that
you
know
and
it's
well
grounded
in
state
statute
that
they're
there
are
good
reasons
that
those
things
are
discussed
in
private,
so
I
would
just
say
going
forward.
We
just
need
to
be
very
clear
about
you
know.
K
I
guess
I
guess
the
position
of
this
council
as
far
as
you
know
what
will
be
discussed
as
a
as
an
executive
session
and
those
minutes
kept
private.
What
we
discussed
as
an
executive
session
in
those
minutes
made
public,
not
that
that
will
change
the
conversation,
but
I
agree
with
karen:
it
sets
expectations
for
employees
and
sex
expectations
for
groups
of
employees
at
sex
expectations
for
other
people.
K
That
may
want
to
be
do
business
with
the
city,
thinking
that,
in
fact,
the
conversation
is
private
and
then
finding
out
later
that
that
conversation
is
going
to
be
made
public.
I
think
I
just
I
just
think
people
it.
People
have
a
right
to
know
a
lot
of
things.
People
have
a
right
to
know
that,
because
you
know
they're
there
are.
There
are
some
things
that
I
think
people
would
just.
They
would
want
to
know
that
their
conversation,
which
they
thought
was
once
private,
is
no
longer
private.
I
just
think
that's
fair.
K
J
Pruyn
just
a
couple
comments:
when
we
talk
about
personnel,
it
might
be
very
similar
to
executive
sessions.
We
have
with
regard
to
negotiations,
lawsuits
personal
issues
real
estate,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
personal
issues
intertwined
a
lot
of
our
minutes
and
I
would
just
like
to
remind
everybody
that
every
evaluation
is
public
record
and
has
voted
here
in
the
council
every
year
or
whenever
we
do,
it
might
not
be
every
year,
but
whenever
we
do
it,
it's
public
and
the
rating
is
there,
the
salary
is
there.
The
benefits
are
there.
M
E
Thank
you
and
I
think
you
know
we're
it's
critically
important
to
differentiate
between
a
private
corporation
I'm.
All
of
my
you
know
private
jobs
whatever
and
when
the
public
is
paying
for
what
we
are
doing,
we
are
making
huge
decisions
about
people's
property
taxes,
employers
are
standard,
etc
that
are
TIF
districts
on
and
on
and
on
for
our
city.
And
indeed,
when
we
look
at
our
city,
what
we
see
the
results
are
the
direct
results
of
what
public
officials
did
and
probably
the
most
important
thing
they
do
is
hire
and
supervise
a
shitty
manager.
E
Webster's
defines
our
form
of
government
as
the
city
manager
is
in
charge
of
the
staff,
and
indeed
he
can
appoint,
hire
fire,
as
is
happening
right
now
with
our
police
chief
and
other
department
heads,
but
he
is
our
responsibility,
and
that
is
how
its
defined
by
by
Webster.
That's
not
me
that
we
supervise
the
city
manager,
as
as
mayor
renter
said
when
he
ran
so
often
there's
a
brain,
there's
fingers
that
do
work
and
then
there's
the
brain.
E
We
owe
our
citizens
the
reasons
that
we
supported
or
didn't
support
that
critically
important
city
manager-
maybe
not
the
current
one
right
now,
but
certainly
the
one
that
presided
over
our
city
staff
for
15
years
give
or
take.
But
it
was.
It
was
a
very
very
long
time
when
the
city
of
Bloomington
underwent
exponential
changes
that
were
still
feeling
every
single
day.
So
I'd
like
to
let
the
citizens
know
I
think
they
need
know
where
their
elected
officials
Stan,
okay,.
N
And
I'll
be
brief.
Mayor
thanks.
I
guess
I'm
going
to
take
exception
to
the
implication
that
a
no
vote
against
this
suggests
that
I'm
hiding
something
again
I
find
that
I
find
that
and
I
may
be
an
incorrect
inference
on
my
part,
but
I
find
an
implication
somewhat.
Insulting
just
wanted
to
say
that,
and
secondly,
again
people
who
have
been
around
this
city
council
for
a
while
and
particularly
the
first
two
years
here.
N
It's
no
secret
that
I
wasn't
particularly
a
fan
of
the
previous
city
manager,
but
but
for
me
it's
the
principle
of
of
the
fact
that,
under
the
conditions
of
the
employment
at
that
time,
and
again
is
what
suggested
if
we
want
to
change
the
contract
and
make
that
part
of
one
of
the
conditions
for
employment
I'm
willing
to
have
that
conversation,
but
that
stipulation
those
conditions
were
not
in
place
again.
I.
Thank
the
mayor
for
again
some
of
his
work
that
he
did
in
looking
at
some
of
the
other.
N
A
That
includes
the
city
manager.
It
includes
the
people
who
participate
in
the
evaluations
and
they
knew
the
rules
of
the
game
at
the
time
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
six
or
seven
years
later
we're
doing
something
different
and
by
the
way,
we're
bringing
back.
In
all
the
comments
you
made
so
I
I,
don't
think
that's
the
right
way
to
do
things.
I
I
do
agree
that
if
we
want
to
do
that
going
forward
and
set
something
up,
that
everybody
knows
what
the
rules
are,
then
that's
fine
and
see.
A
If
we
can
get
people
to
agree
to
that,
apply,
run
for
council
and
participate
in
some
of
those
evaluations,
then
that
that's
great-
and
you
know
what
that
said-
I
am
NOT
a
big
proponent
of
going
back
into
the
past.
I.
Think
a
lot
has
been
said
about:
what's
happened
with
the
Coliseum
with
many
other
decisions,
I
think
it
there's
a
lot
of
it
in
the
public
sphere,
so
I'm
still
unsure.
You
know
what
the
connection
that
would
be
made.
What
is
there
for
us
to
find
out?
That's
new
I'm,
not
sure
about
that.
B
Thank
you,
and
just
it
just
to
clarify
the
debate
that
we're
having
here
is
classic
debate.
It's
not
new
right
when
I
was
at
the
international
city
management
association
in
the
80s
people
debated
this
back
in
those
days.
My
knowledge
of
this
was
dated.
That's
why
I
made
some
phone
calls
and
poked
around,
and
so
there
is
this
trade-off.
What
you
know
if
it
might
make
it
more
difficult
to
Hydra
city
manager
in
the
future?
B
If
you
let
it
out,
it
might
be
that
there's
a
chilling
effect
as
alderman
fazzini
said,
and
then
there
is
the
need
for
public
to
learn
something
about
the
evaluation
of
the
city
manager
and
that's
we're
balancing
this
again.
So
I
don't
think
it's
necessarily
that
any
of
us
have
anything
to
hide
or
that
we're
just
coming
down
on
different
sides
of
I.
Think
what's
a
legitimate
question
that
the
country's
going
to
continue
to
bay.
B
It's
a
debate
so
anyway,
at
this
point,
I
wonder
if
we
could
go
ahead
and
call
the
roll
on
the
amended
motion.
So
if
you
vote
in
favor
of
the
amended
motion,
we
would
be
releasing
all
the
documents
that
were
recommended
by
staff
plus
the
evaluations
that
all
the
woman
stearns
had
articulated.
That
involved.
The
previous
city
manager,
so
vote
YES
would
be
to
release
everything,
including
the
evaluations
right.
B
Right
right
right,
so
yes,
so
you
are
going
to
be
too
well
two
votes.
If
the
first
one
passes,
we
don't
have
the
second
one
right,
we're
still
going
to
need
to
because
it's
the
emit
I
see.
Okay,
it's
just
okay!
Thank
you!
So,
madam
clerk,
would
you
call
the
roll
thank
you
this
is.
This
is
now
the
amended
motion?
I'm.
Sorry,
yes,.
F
F
F
A
B
E
C
B
B
I've
got
a
just
a
few
housekeeping
chores
because
at
this
rate
we
may
get
out
of
here
in
under
an
hour,
and
that
might
be
a
record
I
want
to
again
invite
everyone
if
you're
going
to
be
in
the
labor
day,
parade
and
I
understand
many
people
are
in
a
different
organization,
but
we
will
be
eating
and
walking
with
our
compatriots
in
normal
Kris
coos
and
their
council
members,
and
we
will
gather
around
nine
o'clock.
The
parade
will
start
at
ten
if
you're
able
to
join
us.
B
That
would
be
great
and
let's
see
I
have
off.
Thank
you
to
Ron
Schultz,
to
remind
me
if
anybody's
interested
on
the
council
or
actually
in
the
public,
the
east
central
Illinois,
Regional
Water
stakeholders
conference
will
be
held
on
sep,
tember,
13th
and
it'll,
be
in
decatur.
Illinois
I've
got
information
on
that.
If
anyone
is
interested
and
Ron
are
you
in
the
audience?
B
Oh
very,
oh,
ok,
I
was
going
to
say
well
this
thank
you
for
the
information
and
the
updates
we
I
will
be
chatting
with
the
alderman
on
an
individual
basis
and
then
maybe
coming
to
it.
Perhaps
a
special
work
session,
depending
on
what
the
individual
conversations
are
about,
the
continuation
of
our
current
committee
system.
There
seemed
to
be
some
concerns,
a
variety
of
them.
We
have
three
committees
and
there
are
three
people
out
three
aldermen
on
each
and
an
administration
finance.
The
mayor
has
been
on
it.
B
It
may
be
that
there
are
open
meetings
issues
there
may
be
all
kinds
of
things,
but
I'd
like
to
have
individual
conversations
with
everyone
and
then
see
if
this
is
really
working,
the
way
that
we
thought
it
would
be
working
and
if
maybe
an
alternative
that
alderman
freuen
has
suggested
many
times
was
perhaps
going
to
a
committee
of
the
whole,
which
would
be
the
same
number
of
meetings
a
month.
So
we'd
have
one
extra
meeting,
but
at
this
point
would
be
the
same
as
the
two
council
meetings,
plus
a
committee
meeting.
B
If
that
might
not
be
the
way
to
go,
so
I
will
be
having
individual
discussions.
I
just
wanted
that,
for
the
sake
of
transparency
for
people
to
know
that
was
happening,
I'd
like
to
congratulate
Alex,
McIlroy,
he's
now
a
dad,
and
so
our
best
to
Alex
and
I
think
he'll
be
back
Friday.
Oh,
he
won't
be.
Oh,
oh
I
see
he
won't
be
he'll,
be
back
too.
So
maybe
we
can
all
wish
him.
Congratulations
and
maybe
give
him
a
whole
bunch
of
balloons,
and
actually
my
first
son
was
born
at
the
University.
B
They
had
all
these.
They
had
a
banner
of
computer-generated
banner
I
still
have
it
to
this
day
anyway.
So
would
be
it'd,
be
fun
to
to
welcome
him
back
and
congratulate
him
on
this
great
great
event
and
I'd
also
like
to
thank
chief
kimberling
and
our
firefighters
for
giving
us
an
education
on
the
new
fire
engine.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I'll
move
to
automatic
comments
start
with
alderman,
fazzini,
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
alderman.
I
B
I
B
I
Two
is
that
I
attended
the
brugal
a
festival
over
the
weekend.
Tho
city
staff
participated
in
the
planning
and
the
events
for
that
I
thought
it
went
very
well
and
the
overall
feedback
people
who
were
there
and
then
it
was
overwhelmingly
positive,
so
I
hope
it
as
fast
next
year.
So
thank
you.
A
staff
for
the
help
with
that
and
third
is
I,
just
kind
of
want
to
give
a
public
reminder.
I
have
been.
I
I
received
a
couple
calls
actually,
as
the
school
year
begins,
some
people
have
when
they
picking
up
kids
up
from
school
are
blocking
driveways
in
the
area.
So
I
would
encourage
all
parents
when
picking
up
kids
to
be
cognizant
of
where
driveways
are
so
residents
can
get
in
and
out.
That's
all.
I
had
all.
L
I'm
publicly
thank
Barb
and
Kevin
Kofi
and
fire,
and
the
police
and
gosh
Public
Works
everybody
who
made
the
criterium
downtown
on
Saturdays
such
a
wonderful
re
event,
a
reamer
giov
nth.
It
came
off
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
I've
heard
a
lot
of
positive
feedback
about
the
potential
for
it
to
continue
to
grow
and
to
connect
with
Bruegel
ax,
which
was
also
a
great
event,
so
just
want
to
say
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
All
the
work
you
put
into
it.
Thank.
E
Wanted
to
comment
on
the
Vietnam
Memorial
that
is
coming
along
beautifully
and,
in
fact
names
that
were
completely
illegible.
Well,
not
completely,
but
fading.
Fading
very
badly
are
now
legible
and
are
really
I
mean
the
veterans
that
have
been
involved
in
this
are
so
pleased
and
impressed,
and
I
am
delighted
with
the
way
it's
the
way
is
turning
out.
Also
we're
going
to
be
restoring
the
original
flame
that
was
broken,
vandalized
different
versions
of
it,
and
that
is
very
exciting.
E
M
One
real
quick
comment
and
getting
a
lot
of
feedback
on
our
10
million
dollar
bond
issue
towards
our
street
repairs
and
want
to
continue
to
push
for
cost
savings
in
other
areas,
including
paying
down
some
old
existing
debt
refinancing
additional
old
debt
to
try
to
garner
some
some
savings
there.
And
then
we
need
to
continue
to
think
about
and
push
forward
on.
M
Reprioritization
of
what
our
important
things
are,
and
obviously
too
many
of
us,
that
is
a
very
high
priority,
and
one
of
the
comments
that
was
made
by
a
former
mayor
that
stays
in
contact
with
me
was
that
this
was
a
tax
and
I
just
want
to
make
it
very
clear.
I
have
no
intention
of
it
becoming
a
tax.
We
need
to
reprioritize
and
get
this
thing
paid
for
and
I'm
sure
that
we
will,
on
a
positive
side,
I'd
like
to
congratulate,
run
prints
or
a
former
alderman
of
many
many
many
years
ago.