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March 10, 2014 - City Council Meeting
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A
A
A
A
B
B
You'll
notice
that
our
ranks
are
thin
tonight
we
have
aldermen
and
mayor
and
city
manager
at
the
national
league
of
cities.
Madam
clerk,
would
you
please
call
the
roll.
B
No
you're,
not
here
we
do
have
a
quorum
present
and
our
first
order
of
business
is
to
request
a
motion
that
will
allow
mayor,
renner
and
alderman
mulambe
and
black
to
join
us
as
well
as
city
manager.
Hales.
Could
I
have
a
motion.
B
F
Yes,
we're
here,
and
it
was
60
degrees
here
today,
just
rubbing
it
in.
B
It
was,
it
was
80
degrees
and
sunny.
I'm
sorry.
No.
We
had
60
degrees
temperature
too,
so
I'm
you're
not
breaking
our
hearts
here.
Okay,
can
we
get
the
sound
up
a
little
bit
on
them
he's
working
on?
Okay,
you
can
hear
us.
Okay,
though,
yes.
B
Very
well.
Thank
you.
Okay,
that's
better!
Thank
you.
Okay,
our
first
order
of
business,
then,
is
public
comment.
I
have
two
cards
here
and
the
first
is
mr
gary
lambert.
D
Gary
lambert,
3018
east
oakland,
received
the
flyer
in
the
mail
today
with
water
bill
survey
on
the
bicycle
paths,
near
as
I
can
tell
it's
identical
to
what's
online,
I
went
out
and
looked
at
it.
It's
looking
for
nothing
but
positive
input,
no
place
for
any
opposition
to
the
quote.
Spending
plan.
If
you
want
a
fair
survey,
make
it
fair
tonight,
you're
going
to
be
voting
on
75
000
to
donnelly
and
stl.
D
D
D
We're
going
to
be
paving
the
paths
that
the
golf
courses
out
of
our
current
revenues,
that
every
citizen
in
this
town
is
paying
for.
I
see
it
in
the
packet
tonight
that
11
of
our
population
is
below
poverty
lines,
we're
contemplating
raising
their
utility
taxes,
not
just
raising
them,
doubling
them
so
that
they
can
pay
for
these
other
expenses.
To
me,
it
looks
like
we're
building
a
four
million
dollar
slush
fund
for
the
administration
to
expand.
B
Thank
you,
mr
lambert.
The
next
card
is
from
alton
franklin.
D
My
name
is
alton
franklin.
I
live
at
508
patterson
drive
here
in
bloomington.
Unfortunately,
mr
lambert
are
wrong.
This
isn't
setting
a
precedent.
Seventy-Five
thousand
dollars
follows
closet,
close
on
the
heels
of
the
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
we
gave
to
the
ashford
dealer
to
come
in
and
compete
with
the
bloomington
citizen
who's
been
here
for
decades.
D
I
am
getting
more
and
more
disturbed
by
the
trend
of
things
that
I'm
seeing.
We
have
a
sitting
councilman
who
wants
to
change
the
way
that
our
our
citizens
are
represented
to
their
detriment.
In
my
honest
belief,
we've
got
a
mayor
who
is
making
no
bones
about
the
fact
that
he's
going
to
build
a
war
chest
to
find
people
of
common
vision?
D
D
Trends
are
very
illuminating
when
you
start
to
see
things
where
people
are
taking
more
control,
where
they're
taking
more
money,
where
they're
totally
ignoring
the
fact
that
we
have,
as
mr
lambert
said,
11
of
our
folks
living
under
the
poverty
level.
There's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
need
to
address.
The
last
thing
that
we
need
to
do
is
to
start
trying
to
play
this
wonderful
little
game,
press,
the
digitation
and
misdirection.
D
B
Thank
you
just
for
general
information.
We
do
not
respond
to
public
comment.
We
welcome
it,
but
we
don't
respond.
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
recognition
and
appointments.
First
up
is
a
retirement
presentation
to
thomas
kent
berglund,
who
has
been
the
maintenance
coordinator
coordinator
at
the
fire
department
chief
kimberly,
mr
birkeland.
B
D
When
you
started
to
win
and
today
right.
D
Well,
thank
you
very
much,
council
members.
This
is
a
time
for
us
to
recognize
tom
berglin
for
43
years
of
absolutely
fabulous
and
dedicated
service
to
the
city
of
bloomington,
its
citizens
and
its
fire
department.
I
have
a
lot
of
things
here
I
can
read.
I
don't
have
my
reading
glasses,
so
I
will
I
will
get
through
it,
but
before
I
start
to
read
just
a
little
bit
about
tom's
life,
I
don't
think
you
can.
Actually.
D
I
can
name
anybody
that
has
the
best
interests
of
the
city
of
bloomington
and
his
fire
department
on
his
mind,
other
than
tom
bergland
tom
has
spent
both
time
on
as
a
firefighter
which
I'll
talk
about,
and
then
time
is
our
maintenance
coordinator
and
I'll.
Just
tell
you
that
a
maintenance
coordinator
is
really
an
absolutely
thankless
job.
At
times
it
is
definitely
self-motivated.
D
He
is
the
one
and
make
sure
that
the
wheels
turn
on
the
vehicles
that
everything
works
in
the
stations
so
that
the
the
guys
on
the
ground
here
can
go
out
and
do
their
jobs,
and
he
takes
that
took
that
job
with
absolute
enthusiasm
every
day
to
come
in
and
make
sure
that
happened
to
do
the
best.
D
He
could
to
make
sure
that
those
individuals
back
in
the
back
of
the
room
to
provide
service
to
our
community
and
there's
just
not
enough
thanks
in
the
world,
for
what
he
has
done
for
us
and
and
I'll
just
tell
you
he's
been
a
great
person
to
be
around
a
great
mentor
when
I
came
on
the
department
and
a
great
person
to
be
around
the
entire
time
he's
been
here.
D
So
I
I
will
miss
him
dearly
and
for
what
he
brought
a
little
bit
about
tom
thomas
kemberg
began
his
deployment
with
the
city
of
bloomington
on
may
4
1970
at
the
front
street
fire
station.
D
He
rode
the
ambulance
for
four
years
out
of
the
station
until
april
of
1975,
when
he
was
assigned
station
three,
which
at
the
time
was
probably
a
bunch
of
cornfields
right.
D
Until
he
just
retired
last
week,
tom's
wife
zoo
will
be
celebrating
50
years
of
marriage
in
october.
Congratulations
on
that
they
have
two
daughters,
tammy
clem
and
her
husband,
pastor,
michael
clem
and
heidi
house,
and
her
husband,
terry
tom,
has
two
granddaughters
denise
and
melissa.
Clem
tom
is
very
proud
of
his
daughter's
accomplishments
and
doors
both
of
his
grandchildren
tom's
been
active
in
the
following
organizations:
order
the
eastern
star
of
illinois.
He
has
been
a
worthy
partner
for
nine
years.
D
He
has
served
as
a
grand
representative
in
both
nebraska
and
district
of
columbia
for
the
eastern
star
of
illinois,
and
he
also
served
as
wilmington
municipal
credit
union
board
for
13
years
and
was
appointed
chairman
of
the
credit
union
committee
for
his
last
four
years,
as
vice
chairman
of
the
board,
so
again,
a
very
distinguished
involvement
with
the
city
as
an
employee
and
also
just
as
a
good
citizen
through
all
of
his
other
activities.
So
tom,
congratulations
for
your
43
years!.
D
B
And
we
have
a
a
second
happy
stat
event
here:
a
proclamation
in
honor
of
elmo,
cj
quinn
and
family
we're
proclaiming
march
the
10th
as
the
elmo
cj
quinn
family
day.
I've
asked
my
council
colleague,
alderman
stearns,
who
was
really
the
driver
behind
us
to
to
present
this
a.
G
Very
few
of
us
have
not
been
the
recipient
of
some
encouragement,
a
kind
word
so
much
more
than
just
a
full
tank
or
a
window
washed
and
elmo.
You
have
no
idea
how
you've
enriched
our
lives,
what
you
mean
to
us
as
a
friend
a
neighbor
and
a
citizen
of
bloomington,
probably
the
very
best
that
personifies
the
hometown,
that
I
love-
and
I
know
you
do
too
so
with
that.
I
would
like
to
read
this
and
please
come
forward.
G
G
Whereas
in
1941
twin
brothers,
elmo
a
and
eldon
quinn
began
a
family
profession
that
would
span
more
than
seven
decades
and
leave
an
everlasting
impression
on
the
bloomington
community
and
whereas,
during
the
time
of
the
nation's
recovery
process
as
the
result
of
the
great
depression
twins,
texaco
station
opened
its
doors
at
the
corner
of
maine
and
chestnut
street.
Providing
continuing
quality
service
for
many
generations
to
come.
The
service
station
would
later
be
renamed
quinn's
shell
station
in
1985
and
whereas,
during
the
late
1950s,
the
seat
of
service
once
again
came
to
fruition.
G
When
elmo
c.j
quinn
began
working
under
the
management
of
his
father,
elmo
aquin,
the
decision
would
ultimately
propel
the
young
quinn
into
management
and
ownership
position
after
the
passing
of
his
father
in
1976
and
the
retirement
of
his
uncle
eldon
in
1978,
and
whereas,
after
serving
nearly
five
generations
of
bloomington
residents,
elmo's
cj
quinn
has
announced
the
closing
of
quinn's
shell
station,
a
business
that
will
forever
be
remembered
as
a
dream
come
true
by
two
brothers
and
cultivated
by
their
family
may.
They
serve
as
an
example
to
our
community
of
hard
work
and
determination.
E
E
D
City
of
bloomington's
city
council,
all
its
members,
it's
been
a
pleasure
for
me
not
only
as
a
youngster
to
help
my
dad
enough
at
the
gas
station
but
to
meet
as
judy
said.
Five
generations
of
customers.
E
D
D
My
family
has
helped
me
through
a
lot
of
the
years
and
right
now,
my
wife
and
I
we
probably
go
to
the
ozarks
for
a
couple
days
and
then
in
july,
we'll
go
down
with
the
family
and
spend
some
time
with
some
very
serious
crappie
fishing.
E
B
B
Second,
okay:
tracy:
could
you
please
call
the
roll.
D
C
H
B
Yes,
we
can
good
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
regular
agenda.
Then.
The
first
item
is
a
public
hearing
for
approval
and
authorization
for
our
community
development
block
grant
program.
B
We've
allotted
20
minutes
for
this
and
sharon
are
you
presenting
sharon
walker,
our
head
of
community
development,
and
I
wanted
to
say
before
we
get
started
on
this-
that
I'm
going
to
excuse
myself
from
any
comments
on
this
or
and
I'm
going
to
abstain
from
the
vote
just
out
of
I'm
on
the
board
of
directors
of
the
west
bloomington
revitalization
project,
and
while
there
is
no
either
personal
finance
financial
interest,
I
don't
want
there
to
be
any
appearance
of
any
either.
So
I
will
simply
let
you
take
it
away.
Okay,.
I
Good
evening,
good
evening,
d.c
hello,
we're
here
to
talk
about
another
year
in
cdbg
funds.
We
will
be
beginning
our
40th
year
of
receiving
the
community
development
block,
grant
funds
a
long
time
of
receiving
some
nice
federal
dollars
that
we
can
use
and
apply
in
our
community,
primarily
for
the
low
and
moderate
income.
Folks
in
your
packets
tonight
are
a
list
of
proposed
activities
and
a
little
bit
of
a
background.
I
I
G
G
I
We
have
about
25.
In
fact,
I
just
checked
the
tray
or
the
hanging
file,
folder
cabinet,
that
we
have
just
last
week
and
we
have
about
25
they're
on
the
waiting
list
and
that's
fairly
typical.
I
G
A
I
G
I
B
C
Public
hearing
means
exactly
that
you
have
to
open
the
public
hearing
and
see.
If
there's
anyone
who
wants
to
address
the
council,
you
can
ask
for
show
of
hands
in
case
there's
a
large
number.
You
can
set
a
equal
time
limit
for
each
other's
typical
with
a
public
hearing.
If
someone's
saying
something
that
you
disagree
with,
it
doesn't
mean
if
you
say
they
get
three
minutes,
you
get
to
cut
them
off.
B
Then,
following
that
adoption
of
the
resolution
right-
okay,
thank
you
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
declare
the
public
hearing
open
how
many
people
would
like
to
speak.
D
My
name
is
greg
shaw.
I
live
at
1104,
north
roosevelt
bloomington,
and
I'm
here
in
my
capacity
as
the
chair
of
the
housing
committee
of
the
west
bloomington
revitalization
project
mike
o'donnell,
our
president
has
presented
you
or
at
least
sharon.
I
assume
you
were
cc'd
on
that
an
outline
of
what
what
the
wbrp
would
like
to
to
to
do
this
coming
year,
and
I
want
to
speak
specifically
about
the
ten
thousand
dollar
component
of
this.
D
That
will
help
us
do
a
second
year
of
our
home
renovation
program
for
low
and
moderate
income
homeowners
on
the
west
side.
D
Briefly,
the
goal
is
to
help
people
who
might
be
struggling
to
stay
in
their
homes,
addressing
the
physical
limitations
of
their
homes,
health
safety,
mobility
issues,
weatherization
that
sort
of
thing,
but
also
aesthetics
in
terms
of
sighting
repair
and
and
dressing
up,
the
exterior
of
houses,
we're
trying
to
enable
homeowners
to
continue
to
be
the
anchors
in
neighborhoods
that
are
struggling
this
past
year
we
completed
six
projects
and
we
stretched
the
ten
thousand
dollars
a
long
way.
Thank
you
for
the
help.
D
We
stretched
it
a
long
way
by
extensive
use
of
volunteer
work
and
we
developed
a
a
pool
of
volunteers
who
are
eager
and
able
and
and
interested
in
coming
out
for
second
year
there's.
Also
a
lot
of
self-help
with
this
homeowners
contribute
a
significant
portion
of
the
person
hours
required
to
do
the
work
and
also
a
portion
of
the
funds
themselves.
So
this
is
not
a.
This
is
not
a
giveaway.
This
is
a
partnership
and
we're
excited
about
entering
into
a
second
year
and
on
down
the
road.
K
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
mary
campbell
and
I
live
at
2319
mabel
road
in
normal,
but
I'm
speaking
about
the
properties
that
we're
working
on
at
612,
614
and
616
westmon
low,
and
I
just
wanted
to
come.
I
asked
sharon
if
I
could
come
and
just
say
thank
you
in
2012,
which
would
have
been
2013
when
we
got
the
money,
I
guess
june
of
2012.
He
gave
us
ten
thousand
dollars
and
I,
I
hope,
there's
a
report
in
your.
Did
they
get
it?
K
Okay,
if
not,
we
can
send
it
to
you.
I
sent
in
a
report
I
just
sort
of
compiled
what
we've
done
with
that
ten
thousand
dollars.
It's
phenomenal
and
I
don't
think
we
would
have
been
able
to
get
started
without
that
seed
money
we've
been
able
to
now.
We
have
the
two
houses
which
we
are
gutting
and
they
will
be
an
addition
and
a
really
nice
contribution
to
the
city
of
bloomington
west
side.
K
We've
spent
a
small
amount
of
it
so
far
on
some
infrastructure
stuff,
but
we've
been
blessed
by
many
contributions.
K
For
example,
a
large
company
gave
us
enough
siding
to
do
the
entire
outside
of
one
of
the
houses
in
a
beautiful
that
party
party
board
that
really
nice
material,
so
we're
taking
that
money,
we're
using
it
we're
investing
it
in
this
community
and
in
the
women.
The
report
that
you
will
see
was
written
up.
The
back
half
of
it
was
written
up
by
our
case
manager
to
tell
you
how
many
women
were
serving,
and
that
was
with
only
a
quarter
time
case
manager.
Within
the
last
10
days
we've
been
we've
received
several
major
grants.
K
We've
been
able
to
take
our
case
manager
up
to
three
quarter
times.
So,
instead
of
serving
23
women,
we
will
now
be
able
to
reach
out
much
more
aggressively
to
the
county
jail,
because
right
now
most
of
the
women
were
serving
on
self-referrals
or
from
the
prison.
K
When
you
get
the
grant,
if
you,
when
you
get
the
proposed
the
report,
if
you
have
any
questions,
please
feel
free
to
call
me
contact
me
through
email.
I'd
be
glad
to
answer
any,
and
I
just
want
to
put
in
a
praise
for
the
office
that
sharon
is
involved
with,
mark
you,
who
you
all
know,
retired
kerry,
sneddon
and
sharon
have
treated
us
with
the
utmost
care.
K
They
have
explained
things
to
us
renew
in
this
building,
rehab
effort,
and
so
they're
always
there
to
provide
support,
encouragement
and
guidance,
and
we
really
have
appreciated
that
so
labyrinth
outreach
services
to
women
is
serving
women
today,
who
otherwise
would
be
on
their
way
back
to
prison.
But
so
far
we've
only
lost
one
woman
that
I
know
of
who's,
returned
to
prison
and
and
she's
a
woman
that
we
got
really
at
the
very
beginning
of
our
program,
and
so
she
was
kind
of
on
her
way
out
the
door.
K
But
we're
doing
really
good
things
and
our
case
manager
was
the
one
on
the
far
right
and
you've
met
bailey
sebastian
before
she.
She
and
I
are
the
ones
who
are
over
at
the
houses
seeing
how
things
go.
So.
Thank
you
very
much
for
everything.
We
really
appreciate
what
you've
done.
B
E
E
C
L
And
it
has
to
do
with
what
sharon
walker
mentioned
regarding
the
five-year
consolidated
plan.
Currently,
the
next
version
of
that
plan
is
being
prepared.
L
I
would
recommend
that
we
bring
and
have
at
a
future
committee
of
the
whole
little
discussion
of
that
plan
before
the
united
way
finishes
its
draft
and
and
the
reason
for
that
is
as
sharon
walker
mentioned,
community
development
block
grant
funds
can
be
used
for
multiple
programs
services
to
benefit
low
to
moderate
income,
including
job
creation.
L
So
at
this
point
in
time,
I
would
just
encourage
all
elected
officials
to
go
out
and
review
the
the
current
consolidated
plan
and
then
I'll
be
working
with
justine
robinson
to
bring
back
to
to
share
with
council
at
a
future
time
some
ideas.
Some
specific
suggestions
of
how
economic
development
could
be
a
new,
provide
provision
that
the
council
consider
adding
to
that
plan,
especially
economic
development
activities
on
the
west
side,
specifically
in
the
west
side,
bloomington,
revitalization,
project
area.
I
B
B
F
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
economic
development
council
for
their
work
on
this,
and
particularly
the
leadership
of
michael
grady
and
ken
springer.
They
really
were
outstanding
in
bringing
this
to
the
table.
This
is
really
an
incredible
and
exciting
possibility,
and
I
certainly
want
to
thank
my
colleague
chris
koos
from
normal
for
his
work
on
this.
F
It
was
about
the
8th
or
9th
of
december
when
they
brought
a
large
part
of
the
board
of
directors
down
to
have
lunch
with
us
and
with
that
it's
with
chris
coos
and
I
and
obviously
they
liked
us
a
few
days
later.
They
came
back
and
we
were
kind
of
in
negotiations,
and
especially
in
this
economy,
we
need
to
do
all
we
can
to
attract
high-paying
jobs,
high-tech
jobs.
That's
what's
going
to
increase
our
economic
development
for
the
future
in
the
21st
century,
and
we
we
should
make
it
clear.
F
We
do
not
provide
economic
incentives
unless
there's
something
extremely
unusual,
that
is,
we
wouldn't
do
it
if
they're
low-paying
jobs,
if
they're
minimum
wage
jobs,
at
least
in
our
community.
There
are
some
communities,
in
fact,
actually
most
communities
that
do
that,
and
so
there
were
a
couple
of
comments
of
people
in
the
during
public
comments
that
perhaps
we're
concerned
about
this,
but
essentially
we
cannot
leave
our
economy,
our
city's
economy,
to
chance
in
the
21st
century.
This
is
a
different
economy.
F
The
nature
of
economic
incentives
need
to
be
surgical,
they
need
to
be
clear-
and
I'm
really
excited
about
this.
The
possibility
of
this
going
from
50
to
200
or
250
jobs
and
more
is
really
exciting.
It's
also
the
case
that
capital
attracts
capital
and
if
we
get
this
kind
of
investment,
this
is
something
that
other
companies
are
going
to
notice.
Nerdistwallet.Com
already
has
listed
us.
You
know
it's
one
of
the
hot
economies
to
watch
the
top
ten.
F
All
the
others
are
in
places
that
are
much
warmer
than
we
are
of
course,
and
so
I
think
this
is
a
really
exciting
possibility
for
a
the
beginning
of
a
domino
effect
or
even
if
it,
even
if
it
just
went
up
with
these
jobs.
F
B
Okay,
thank
you
mayor.
We
have
15
minutes
allotted
for
this
conversation
and
before
we
have
council
questions
and
comments,
could
I
get
a
motion
to
get
this
on
the
floor.
B
Second,
second
from
alderman
fruin,
thank
you
who
would
like
to
speak
to
this
and
in
boca
and
scott,
and
if
you
want
to
speak,
just
not
sure
how
you're
going
to
signal
that,
but
I
guess
just
jump
in.
B
I
can
do
that.
Okay,
so
alderman
lauer
wishes
to
speak
and
alderman
black.
Are
you
wanting
to
speak
as
well.
M
B
D
Well,
I
guess
I'm
the
old
stick
in
the
mud
here.
I've
got
a
problem,
obviously
with
spending
public
money
on
a
grant
when
we're
facing
the
kind
of
economic
budget
crisis
that
we
are
facing
here
in
the
next
two
months.
It
just
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
I'm
wondering:
have
we
reached
out
the
business
community?
Have
we
done
anything
to
raise
private
funding
to
at
least
stipend?
What
what
we're
trying
to
do
here?
D
Has
any
effort
been
put
forth
from
from
from
private
business
or
we
just
are?
We
just
writing
a
check
here.
D
I
I've
got
I've
got
questions
about
that.
I
do
think
an
awful
lot
of
stl
technologies,
I'm
aware
of
what
they
do.
I've
toured
the
facility
I
was
actually
introduced
to
what
mr
norman
and
mr
pfeiffer
are
intending
to
do
many
years
ago,
over
a
little
bit
of
coffee
and
and
the
blueprints
and
I'm
impressed.
Obviously,
we
need
to
encourage
that
type
of
forward
thinking
and
and
the
technology
that
ensues
and
there's
an
awful
lot
of
different
areas.
D
It's
almost
like
they
could
touch
every
facet
of
growth
in
our
community
and
so
they've
got
a
very
technologically
advanced
entity
and
the
problem
that
I've
got
is:
why
are
we
spending
public
money
to
absorb
that
risk?
D
Just
just
to
try
to,
and
it's
great
that
we
could
maybe
attract
that
business,
but
I've
just
got
a
problem
with
that
when
we've
got
as
the
unemployment
that
we've
got
we're
faced
with
people
that
really
can't
afford
additional
taxation.
We're
asking
for
that
now
and
obviously
I
I'm
not
on
board
with
any
additional
taxation,
because
people
just
can't
afford
it.
D
We've
got
an
awful
lot
of
folks
in
our
community
that
are
at
the
the
bitter
end
here
and,
and
you
know,
are
we
going
to
push
them
over
the
edge
and
with
programs
like
this
it
just
it
just
makes
me
wonder.
Certainly
we
have
a
lot
of
things
that
were
subsidizing
that
this
possibly
would
make
more
sense,
then,
but
again
we're
setting
an
awfully
difficult
precedent,
and
are
we
going
to
have
to
follow
this
up
with
additional
funding
for
any
other
businesses
that
want
to
come
to
town?
D
It
just
doesn't
seem
to
me
that
it's
structured
quite
the
way
we
probably
should
have
done
it.
I
wouldn't
have
as
much
heartache
if
we
were
maybe
offering
mr
norman
a
tax
abatement
for
each
job,
that
he
does
create
and
and
maintains.
I've
got
questions
about
protecting
the
investment
of
the
citizen
here,
we're
forcing
folks
to
pay
taxes
and
then
we're
doing
something
like
this
with
it.
This
is
a
this
is
a
project
for
venture
capital.
This
is
a
project
for
business
that
accepts
the
risk.
D
D
You
know,
r
donnelly
is,
is
a
is
a
very
prestigious
company.
They've
got
a
lot
of
money
and
it
it's
nice
to
be
able
to
attract
them,
but,
on
the
other
hand,
at
what
cost
I'm
just
not
sure
that
we're
we're
doing
it
properly.
D
Okay,
I
I
just
got
a
couple
additional
questions.
Have
we
done
anything
to
guarantee
that
these
are
permanent
positions
are?
Have
we
done
do
we
know
that
they're
going
to
be
positions
that
these
folks
are
actually
going
to
be
living
in
our
community
and
actually
going
to
be
paying
sales
taxes,
or
are
they
going
to
commute
in
from
pontiac.
B
J
D
H
At
the
conceptual
level,
the
the
proposal
that
the
edc
is
is
very
pleased
to
be
bringing
forth
for
this
council
is
it's
an
opportunity
for
this
community
to
do
things
that
are
very,
very
important.
One
is
bring
a
brand
new
company
to
this
community
number
two
is
to
bring
new
jobs
to
this
community
as
elected
officials,
I'm
sure
you
get
calls
and
emails
from
residents
all
the
time
saying.
Where
are
the
jobs?
What
are
you
doing
to
help
the
economy,
economic
development.
D
As
a
practice
is
really
the
answer
to
that
question
and
the
type
of
economic
development
that
this
project
represents,
which
we
call
business
recruitment,
is
something
that
has
been
communicated
as
a
high
level
priority
by
our
community
to
the
economic
development
council,
particularly
from
our
representatives
from
the
city
of
bloomington,
have
been
very
strong
in
supporting
this
idea
of
business
recruitment
and
so
at
a
conceptual
level.
That's
why
we're
here
we're
here,
because
we
want
to
grow
this
economy.
We
want
to
provide
new
opportunities
for
our
residents.
H
I
sense
that
you
don't
like
incentives
and
the
fact
that
in
fact,
the
matter
is,
I
don't
think
anybody
likes
incentives.
D
Industry
wide
nationwide,
but
they
are
the
tools
which
economic
development
recruitment
are
built
around
it's
akin
to
building
a
house.
You
need
a
hammer
to
do
so,
and
so
any
community
around
the
country.
Those
communities
which
we
are
now
competing
against
in
this
economy,
we're
competing
against
them
for
companies
we're
competing
against
all
these
other
communities
for
jobs.
Everybody
is
at
this
and
everybody
uses.
H
Economic
development,
incentives
in
order
to
make
deals
happen
and,
and
I
would
be
very
challenged
to
find
any
community
out
there-
that
is
engaged.
D
In
business
attraction,
that
is
not
offering
some
type
of
incentive,
and
so
you
are
correct.
This
is
this
is
a
new
type
of
project.
This
is
more
of
a
flexible
incentive
that
we
would
typically
propose,
but
at
the
same
time
it's
a
new
economy,
and
we
are.
We,
as
an
economic
development
organization,
are
branching
out
into
new
areas
of
economic
development.
Programming.
D
Okay,
can
you
fill
me
in
a
little
bit
further
here?
Are
there
any
guarantees
that
that
we're
going
to
get
these
jobs
that
these
folks
are
going
to
be
living
in
our
community
and
paying
the
sales
taxes?
I
know
it's
probably
a
slim
chance
in
the
next
five
years
that
any
of
these
folks
are
going
to
actually
buy
a
home
here
and
and
become
an
actual
permanent
resident,
but
are
we
are
we
setting
a
precedent
here?
You
know
what
are
we
doing
to
look
at
hiring?
H
No
and
typically,
you
won't
see
that
in
economic
development
deals
companies
in
the
private
sector
in
a
large
part,
don't
want
government
entities
or
quasi-government
entities
like
the
economic
development
council,
telling
them
who
they
can
hire
and
who
they
can't
hire.
Really
we
leave
that
decision
up
to
the
company
the
way
we
look
at
it,
this
project
would
put
over
two
and
a
half
million.
D
Control
over
that,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
employee,
even
if
they
are
commuting
into
the
community
they're,
probably
gonna
bite
lunch
here
they
may
shop
here
they
may
you
know,
stop
at
eastland
mall
on
their
way
home.
There's
gonna
be
capture
from
that
that
revenue
and,
in
fact,
if
you
look
at
you,
look
at
any
of
the
companies
that
are
already
present
in
our
economy,
there's
a
high
degree
of
commuter
activity
to
begin
with.
H
H
Well,
that
may
be
a
difference
of
opinion.
I
mean
the
way
the
agreement
is
structured.
R
donnelly
has
certain
performance
expectations.
Those
performance
expectations
are
to
create
50
jobs
within
24
months,
there's
a
min
a
average
wage
threshold
for
those
jobs
that
we
set
at
50
000.
H
So
that's
why,
when
I
say
we're,
gonna
have
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
of
payroll.
That's
the
floor.
That.
D
Is
the
minimum
amount
that
we
will
get
out
of
this
project?
The
language
of
the
agreement
states
that
if
our
donnelly
were
to
leave.
D
The
balance
of
the
incentive
would
be
withheld,
but
in
general
this
is.
This
is
a
more
risky.
D
H
Original
scope
of
this
project
was
designed
as
a
distributed
project
to
pepper
these
jobs
in
a
number
of
different
locations
around
the
the
country.
It
was
only
through
the
hard
work
mainly
of
stl
and
and
and
with
the
edc,
in
tow.
D
That
we
convinced
our
donnelly
to
conceive
of
this
project
as
something
other
than
a
distributed
project,
and
not
only
to
get
them
to
conceive
of
putting
it
in
one
location
but
bringing
that
location
to
bloomington
normal,
so
yeah
you're,
absolutely
right.
There
there's
there's
more
risk
built
into
this
incentive,
but
that
is
the
nature
of
doing
business.
Recruitment.
B
We're
getting
close
on
to
our
15
minutes,
who
else
would
like
to
speak
judy?
I
think
you
had
your
light
on.
G
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you
and
just
just
a
couple
of
observations.
I
guess
and
comments,
and
I
appreciate
your
your
presentation,
ken.
If
I
hadn't
spoken
with
stl,
which
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
do
so
recently,
I
might
feel
a
little
bit
differently.
The
ashley
furniture
instead
of
concerned
me
greatly
because
of
the
competition
and
in
fact
I
ultimately
did
vote
no
on
that
on
that
one.
In
this
case,
we
seem
to
be
enhancing
like
businesses
we
seem
to
be.
There
seems
to
be
almost
a
synergy
between
stl.
G
Obviously
there
is,
and
even
I
even
spoke
with
another
like
business,
and
even
they
were
very
enthusiastic
about
changing.
I
think
the
little
bit,
maybe
the
reputation
of
the
community,
as
you
know,
really
a
place
to
go
for
this
kind
of
thing
and
much
as
I
share
a
lot
of
alderman
flowers
concerns
and
I
and
his
questions
and
I'm
glad
that
he's
raising
them,
because
I
think
they're
very
important.
G
This
is
to
me
ultimately
jobs
and,
yes,
I
do
get
those
emails
and,
yes,
I
do
get
those
phone
calls.
Bloomington
is
in
a
very
precarious
point
in
time,
as
we
all
know,
with
our
major
employer
and
there's
just
simply
a
lot
of
unknowns
there.
We
need
at
this
point
in
our
history.
We
need,
maybe
more
than
ever,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
keep
moving
forward
with
jobs,
jobs,
jobs
and
with
that
in
mind,
I
am
going
to
support
this
now.
I
agree.
G
We
are
setting
precedent
and
that
seems
to
be
a
little
bit
of
the
reality
of
2014
in
our
state.
Our
state
has
created
so
many
disincentives,
maybe
other
states,
maybe
florida.
Georgia
states
that
our
major
employer
is
looking
at.
Maybe
they
don't
have
to
do
that,
but
illinois
has
created
so
many
different
incentives.
We
have
so
much
out
migration
here
that
I
guess
we
do
have
to
come
up
with
something
and
we
have,
and
we
will
it's,
we
can
just
look
at
adm
chicago
mercantile
exchange.
G
G
I
believe
we
need
to
book
any
company,
any
company
that
comes
to
bloomington
normal
we're
going
to
have
to
look
and
think
about
what
they
what
they
want,
what
they
need
on
the
table
and
what
they
put
in
front
of
us.
I
don't
think
we
can
just
be
arbitrary
and
decide
that
high
tech
is
sexy
and
high
tech
is
glitchy.
G
So
we
we
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
you
know,
welcome
them,
employers,
our
employers,
jobs,
are
jobs,
and
I
think
this
is
the
wave
of
this
is
the
reality
of
illinois
in
2014,
and
it's
also
it's
it's
an
extremely
small
amount.
So
not
not
something,
as
you
said
that
maybe
any
of
us
like,
but
certainly
welcome
our
natalie
thrilled
that
the
other
light
companies
are
welcoming
them,
and
with
that
you
know,
I
do
intend
to
support
this.
Thank
you.
D
Three
quick
things:
first
of
all,
ken,
my
thanks
to
the
edc,
for
your
work
on
this
and-
and
I
likewise
will
be
supporting
this
and-
and
I
can't
underestimate
the
partnership
that
I've
come
to
appreciate
the
edc
with
over
these
past
few
years.
You
did
allude
to
this.
I
think
it's
worth
repeating
again.
These
are
these
are
graduated
payments,
if
you
will
so,
we
have
some
control
over
over
the
the
grant
if
you
will-
and
so
I
appreciate
that
minor
safeguard
that
goes
in.
D
For
me
too,
this
is
this
is
consistent
with
some
some
other
things
that
have
happened
here.
The
last
few
years.
Within
the
city
I
mean
we
were
named
one
of
the
technology
top
technology
cities
in
the
country
recently
a
few
years
ago.
Most,
but
not
all
the
folks
on
this
council
voted
for
the
central
illinois
regional
broadband
network,
which
created
that
technology
ring
that
seeds.
D
Companies
like
this
makes
it
even
more
attractive
for
them
to
come
here,
and
so
you
know,
I
see
the
edc
and
the
city
of
bloomington
kind
of
building
on
some
of
those
foundations
that
have
been
been
previously
put
in
place.
So
again,
my
thanks
to
the
edc
for
your
work
on
our
behalf.
Thank
you.
B
E
E
B
Yes,
okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
Our
next
item
is
a
professional
engineering
service
services
agreement
for
the
design
of
fox
creek,
road
bridge
and
road
improvements.
We
have
15
minutes
allotted
for
this
deputy
city
manager.
Atkins
did
you
want
to
introduce
this
for
us.
M
Mayor
pro
temp
smith,
kevin
coffey,
the
city's
engineer.
B
D
Yeah,
I
will
move
that
item
hc,
the
professional
engineering
services
agreement
be
approved
as
presented.
Okay,.
E
B
Yes,
okay
and
then
our
final
item
is
text,
amendments
to
chapter
21
for
refuse-
and
this
was
the
object
of
a
public
comment.
I
think
at
our
last
committee
of
a
whole
meeting.
Barb
did
you
want
to
introduce
this
with
any.
M
Yes,
thank
you.
As
you
all
know,
you
all
have
had
a
lot
of
conversation
regarding
the
city's
new
garbage
rollout.
We
did
officially
start
on
monday,
if
you
well,
you
all
of
you
should
have
had
the
new
carts
now
and
and
put
them
back
where
they
belong
around
your
property.
There
was
several
things
that
was
outstanding:
that
staff
needed
some
direction
from
from
the
city
council.
You
all
asked
us
to
go
back
to
do
some
additional
leg,
work,
listen
to
our
our
residents,
landlords,
etc.
M
Tonight
what
we
have
before
your
three
of
those
outstanding
items,
you
all
had
received
questions
on
cart
sharing.
That
was
not
something
that
staff
had
put
in
place.
We
are
recommending
tonight
that
we
be
allowed
to
do
that.
We
see
positives
in
that
negatives.
Certainly,
don't
outweigh
the
positive
that
we
see
in
the
cart
sharing,
especially
with
our
older
apartment
complexes
that
just
do
not
have
a
lot
of
storage
space
to
for
each
resident
to
have
a
cart.
M
The
other
was,
you
all,
had
some
questions
about,
allowing
all
units
large
units
into
the
program
and
we
went
back
and
forth
and
you
all
gave
us
direction
to
go
back
and
and
look
at
some
things
again.
So
that
second
item
was
to
recommend
that
the
city
under
its
program
not
pick
up
units
buildings
that
have
four
units
or
more.
We
do
have
tonight
in
the
audience
the
superintendent
of
solid
waste
robbie
henson.
And
if
you
have
any
additional
questions
on
his
because
this
is
that
his
expertise
in
his
division.
B
So
before
we
we've
been
given
a
number
of
options,
but
the
way
that
the
ordinance
is
written
is
to
allow
for
cart
sharing
for
each
unit
to
continue
to
pay
16
a
month.
And
for
this
to
be
for
six
and
fewer
units.
That.
B
Right
so
do
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
that.
B
Okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
and
then
questions
for
for
rob
or
for
barb
or
alderman
lauer.
G
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
your
help
with
this
roll
out,
because
I
had
a
lot
of
questions
and
between
you
and
colleen
and
some
of
the
others.
I
think
we
got
a
lot
of
answers,
but
I
do
want
to
ask
you
about
this
option
too.
G
Okay,
this
is
the
the
one
recommended
by
staff
where
cart,
sharing
is
allowed
correct
right,
but
but
there's
one
thing:
that's
not
on
here
that
confuses
me
now:
landlords,
six
and
under
have
always
had
the
option
of
having
a
dumpster
they've
always
had
that
option.
Correct
and
many
of
them
have
chosen
to
do
so.
For
you,
even
even
even
a
duplex.
L
G
Right,
but
what
confused
me-
and
I
just
wanted
to
clarify-
was
that
option
one
says:
landlords
also
have
the
option
of
declining
city
service
and
contracting
okay.
They
have
that
option.
Yes,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
see
that
in
option
two,
but
I
probably
just
missed
it-
that
landlords
have
the
option
of
declining
city
service.
M
We
can
pass
it
in
their
councilman.
Woman
stearns
is
not
cited,
but
we
certainly
demand
that
in
there.
G
Well,
if
that's
the
way
it
is,
and
I
think
that
has
worked
well
then
I
mean-
I
think
that
would
you
know
be
proper,
but
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
landlords
will
have
the
option
and
I
guess
other
than
that,
still
I'm
a
little
I'm
a
little
disappointed
that
this
is
a.
G
Even
in
writing.
That
have
said
that
if
this
is
a
great
deal
for
the
city
because
we're
paying
per
unit,
even
though
we're
not
putting
out
anywhere
near
that
amount,
so
I
think
you
know
that's
that's
going
to
continue
where
there's
a
heavier
burden
on
whatever
you
know,
they're
paying
more.
But
on
the
other
hand,
I'm
really
glad
that
you
have
allowed.
G
They
may
not
have
the
incentive
to
recycle
because
they're
not
paying
less
for
the
one
big
container.
You
know
they
could
they
can
get
five
containers
and
dump
everything
they
want
into
the
garbage
and
they're,
not
they're,
not
incentivized,
to
recycle,
but
many
many
of
them
will-
and
I
think
that's
you
know,
that's
a
great
thing.
What
is
our
diversion
right
now?
Could
you
just
come
on
how
much
it's
improved.
D
G
Jump
that
much
yes,
wow-
and
that
is
absolutely
great
and
part
of
that-
I
think
you
know-
is
because
people
are
becoming
more
savvy
about
recycling
being
free
and
the
the
cards
cost
money.
What
is
the
price
of
recycle
per
ton?
I
know.
D
It
fluctuates
every
month,
depending
on
the
commodity
rate.
You
know
we
range
from
you
know,
collecting
anywhere
from
fifteen
to
twenty
thousand
dollars
in
a
month,
and
it
can
go
as
low
as
two
or
three
thousand
dollars
in
a
month,
but
it's
still
greater
than
paying
forty
four
dollars
a
ton
to
definitely
and
saving
the
land.
G
D
B
Could
you
comment
just
briefly
on
how
an
apartment
owner
or
landlord
would
initiate
the
cart
sharing,
because
they've
had
carts
delivered
already.
D
I'll
pass
these
out
to
you
as
well,
just
as
just
a
sample
what
the
cart
registration
form
would
look
like.
The
request
form
would
look
like
they
would
call
the
public
service
office.
They
would
contact
either
george,
my
sister
myself.
We
would
send
in
the
request
form
once
we
got
it
back
in
writing.
We
would
do
the
swap
out
which
there
would
be
no
charge
at
that,
because
they're
going
to
the
smaller
cards,
which
is
the
third
part
of
the
ordinance,
that's
in
here,
is
not
having
a
30
dollar
swap
out
fee.
D
D
Oliver
lauer,
I
think
you
and
I
probably
have
to
revisit
the
motion
and
add
what
alderman
stearns
had
in
the
form
of
the
landlords
being
able
the
option
of
declining
city
services
and
contracting,
I'm
certainly
willing
to
change.
My
second
okay.
D
D
M
D
D
B
Yes,
I'm
sorry
jim
thanks.
D
I'm
going
to
be
a
alone
dissenting
vote
on
this.
I
think,
and
it's
more
of
a
principle
of
the
matter,
so
maybe
just
a
quick
couple
comments
on
why
I'm
doing
so.
D
I'd
like
to
be
supportive
of
this,
but
at
least
I
should
explain
what
I'm
doing,
and
I
think
this
ties
back
to
my
loan
descending
voice
on
the
garbage
fee
structure,
but
I
really
feel
this
type
of
action
is
moving
away
and
moving
in
an
opposite
direction
from
our
strategic
planning
discussions
we've
had
on
garbage,
and
that
was
a
focus
on
financial
management
and
improved
operational
efficiency,
and
I
think
when
we
are
adding
these
administrative
issues,
we're
adding
a
burden,
added
work
and
added
cost
to
our
staff,
and
I
think
secondly,
I
think
we're
also
adding
or
opening
up
the
door
to
other
residents
who
feel
like
they
should
be
deserving
of
some
other
different
type
of
handling
approach.
D
D
I
just
think
we
need
to
keep
this
as
simple
as
possible
and
with
that
said,
I
very
clearly
understand
that
we're
trying
to
help
out
the
congestion
of
the
carts
on
the
streets,
etc.
I
fully
understand
that
I
think
there's
other
ways
to
go
about
this,
but
probably
enough
said,
but
I
just
feel
in
principle
we're
moving
away
from
our
strategic
planning.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
B
D
Just
just
to
say
in
in
jim
I
respect
what
you're
saying
and
and
what
I
heard
the
last
time
from
public
service
when
we
talked
about
this,
and
so
I
don't
have
any
reason
to
believe
that
that's
not
the
case.
I
was
reminded
of
again
something
that
kevin
is
inclined
to
do
from
time
to
time,
and
that
is
to
say
you
know,
let's
revisit
this
in
maybe
six
months
and
and
and
tweak
and
adjust,
and
I
certainly
heard
a
willingness
from
public
service
to
do
that.
D
So
so
maybe
one
of
the
takeaways
is
maybe
start
thinking
about
you
know
in
september
you
know
maybe
coming
back
and
and
let's
see,
if
there's
some
ways
that
we
can
adjust
this
and
and
maybe
still
address
some
of
those
open
issues
or
questions.
That's
a
game
kind
of
an
action
item.
I
think
kevin
mentioned
from
time
to
time
on
a
few
different
things,
so
that
might
be
helpful.
C
C
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Well.
That
brings
us
to
the
end
of
our
meeting
barb
or
david
any
discussion
from
the
city
manager's
office
david.
Do
you
have
anything
you
want
to
say.
L
Not
at
this
time
we'll
give
more
report
on
both
the
one
voice,
as
well
as
the
national
league
of
cities
congressional
city
conference
when
we
return,
but
I
think
it's
been
very
productive
and
we've
had
a
chance
to
meet
with
all
our
senatorial
and
representative
members
back
here
in
washington,
d.c,
and
I
think
it's
been
very
productive.
So,
but
we'll
have
more
of
a
report
at
the
next
meeting.
B
Okay,
mayor
renner.
F
Thank
you.
Actually,
I
don't
have
too
much
to
say
other
than
I
want
to
thank
older
women
sterns
for
joining
us
on
the
one
voice
trip,
and
I
think
we
we
certainly
learned
a
lot.
We
made
it
also
clear
to
some
of
the
people
sub
cabinet
level,
people
we
spoke
to
and
our
congressional
representatives
that
we
needed
some
help
with
mental
health
in
our
community,
and
I
think
you
know
again.
B
All
right
well
have
safe
travels.
All
all
four
of
you
and
alderman
dave.
D
That
was
one
of
the
things
that
really
attracted
me
about
the
ashley
agreement.
Was
that
again
they're
just
not
getting
a
blank
check,
they're,
just
not
getting
a
lot
of
cash,
I
mean
if
they
don't
perform,
they
don't
get
the
money
from
the
city
of
bloomington.
So
I
think
that's
a
a
very
fair
and
equitable
approach
to
economic
development.
So
again,
just
since
it
was
brought
up,
there's
always
seems
to
be
misinformation
about
that
floating
around.
So.
J
Appreciate
that
chance
of
we
have
an
update
for
you
and
to
that
regard,
we've
received
130
pages
of
documentation,
proving
that
they're
meeting
their
performance
measurements
in
terms
of
job
creation,
number
of
jobs,
investment
in
the
infrastructure
and
requirements
of
the
agreement,
so
they're
meeting
those
we're
seeing
the
results
in
colonial
plaza
and
we're
seeing
the
impact
on
our
increase
in
sales,
tax
revenue,
okay,.
B
D
Karen
just
a
couple
comments:
it's
refreshing
when
we
have
recognitions
and
so
forth,
and
two
of
them
tonight,
thanks
to
mike
cameron,
for
recognizing
mr
berglin
and
for
judy's
efforts
to
represent
elmo
quinn,
and
it
just
reminds
us.
I
think
all
of
us
have
this
responsibility,
but
I
kind
of
encourage
barb
and
staff
to
do
it
as
well.
I
think
we
have
so
many
deserving
people
that
we
need
to
recognize
from
time
to
time.
D
I
don't
think
we
do
it
often
enough
and
that's
whether
it's
city
staff,
retirements
or
accomplishments,
but
even
our
citizens
that
have
gone
above
and
beyond
to
contribute
to
the
community.
So
maybe
that's
a
challenge
of
all
of
us
to
start
recognizing
some
more
people
that
are
so
deserving.
So
it's
refreshing
to
do
that
tonight.
Thank
you.
D
D
D
I
would
like
to
try
to
work
with
you
and-
and
you
know,
certainly
commend
you
for
recognizing
stl
and
and
a
homegrown
entity
that
really
is
cutting
edge
and
I've
known
that,
for
you
know
quite
some
time,
I
want
to
just
make
a
quick
mention
and
a
thank
you
to
our
citizens,
as
well
as
our
city
staff
and
and
the
water
department
and
and
the
folks
that
have
been
involved
in
snow
removal.
Almost
around
the
clock
looks
like
we're.
D
Gonna
get
another
little
dip
of
it
here
coming
up
another
one
to
three.
Maybe
tomorrow
night
it's
been
a
very,
very
difficult
winter.
I've
had
a
number
of
people
that
were
out
of
water
for
more
than
a
week
and
they've
been
very
patient
and
certainly
city.
I'm
sure
appreciates
that,
and
I
know
the
guys
are
just
working
beyond
the
call
most
of
the
time
it's
been.
I've
worked
outside.
I
know
how
that
can
be,
and
it's
very
very
difficult.
D
So
just
thank
you
for
the
patience
for
for
all
involved
in
in
in
the
in
the
difficulties
that
we've
had
this
winter.
B
G
Just
a
real
quick
comment
and
question
since
this
subject
of
ashley
furniture
has
come
up
again.
I
think
this
is
a
situation
of
synergy
with
existing.
What
could
be
competitors
and
I
think,
that's
important
in
the
ashley
situation
justine
if
you're
still
here,
I
don't
see
you
maybe
you
are.
I
believe,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
that
some
of
the
competitors
came
forward
and
you
were
able
to
work
with
them
on
some
things.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
J
J
We
certainly
extended
and
met
with
furniture
companies
who
came
forth.
We
worked
with
them
on
potential
projects
that
they
might
have
or
might
have
in
the
future,
and
certainly
extended
offers
for
similar
conversations.
G
G
So
it's
a
bit
of
a
come
one.
Come
all.
You
know,
I'm
all
about
fairness
and
I
think
we're
we
are
in
a
different
world.
Of
course
there
that
doesn't
mean
that
I
would
always
support
every
abatement
or
every
incentive
they're
all
one
by
one,
but
anyway
I
do
appreciate
that
fairness
and
that
subsequent
action,
you
know,
after
that
situation
happened.
Thank
you
absolutely.