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March 24, 2014 - City Council Meeting
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A
A
B
D
I'd
like
to
call
the
meeting
of
the
bloomington
city
council
to
order
you
please
stand
for
pledge
of
allegiance
and
a
moment
of
silence.
E
C
F
D
No,
I
have
oh
there,
it
is.
I
have
a
distinct
honor
here.
I
wonder
if
we
could
have
former
older
woman
jennifer
mcdade,
please
come
forward
and
we
have.
Where
is.
D
No
that's
for
child
abuse
proclamation!
Oh
we're
just
okay!
Well,
please!
I
want
you
to
come.
This
is
the
thing
that's
really
cool,
though,
and
this
is
for
jennifer
mcdade
serving
from
may
1st
2009
to
february
6
2014
for
a
distinguished
service
and
great
camaraderie.
Thank
you
very
much
jennifer.
You
gave
up
a
lot
and
we're
very
much
appreciative.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
and
may
I
just
say
please
thank
you
to
all
the
staff
who
taught
me
so
much
about
what
a
great
city
this
is
to
live
in
and
all
of
the
residents
here
who
are
always
so
supportive
and
fun
to
work
with.
This
was
really
an
absolutely
wonderful
experience
for
me
and
I'm
truly
grateful.
Thank
you.
D
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolve
that
I
terry
renner
may
or
do
hereby
proclaim
the
month
of
april
2014.
Child
abuse
protection
prevention
month
in
bloomington
illinois.
I
urge
all
citizens,
community
agencies,
faith
groups,
education
institutions,
medical
facilities
and
businesses
to
increase
their
participation
in
efforts
to
report
to
support
children,
parents,
caregivers
families
and
all
others,
thereby
preventing
child
abuse
and
strengthening
our
community.
D
I
wonder
if
I
could
have
bruce
bergathon
rachel
mcfarland,
please
come
forward.
D
D
I
D
D
J
D
He
worked
for
years
with
ron
schultz,
who
was
in
our
water
department,
and
I
think
ron
would
say
the
very
same
thing.
He
is
always
very,
very
humble
he's
quick
to
share
the
spotlight
with
others
and
it's
his
tireless
efforts
in
watershed
protection
in
coalition
coalition
building
that
have
made
the
city's
program
a
model
for
others
to
emulate.
I
saw
ron
nodding
his
head
and
he
doesn't
impress
easily.
No,
I
think
anybody
who
has
met
to
rick
would
say
he
is
a
tireless
worker
and
a
very
humble
individual.
D
K
C
We're
extremely
proud
to
be
a
part
of
all
this,
and
I
really
appreciate
all
the
support
and
that
the
council
and
mayors
over
the
years
have
given
us
the
trust
that
they've
given
us
in
this
approach.
This
is
truly
a
major
part
of
our
overall
water
supply
planning
and
operations.
C
It's
a
style
that
we
have
it's
our
treatment
philosophy,
we're
trying
to
improve
the
water
quality
and
quantity
and
preserve
the
quantity
as
much
as
we
can
in
the
lake
itself,
lakes
themselves,
as
well
as
the
catchments
or
the
drainage
areas
that
fill
our
our
reservoirs.
C
It's
it's
somewhat
of
a
it's,
not
a
sure
thing
like
like
building
a
a
treatment
facility.
You
know
at
the
water
plant,
but
it's
a
longer
term
solution
to
it.
C
It's
in
the
long
run
could
be
hopefully
as
cheap
as
as
doing
it
the
other
way,
and
you
have
these
other
ancillary
benefits,
and
the
main
thing
is
with
some
of
these
partners
that
we
do
have,
of
course,
our
long-term
partner,
our
formal
partner
with
the
mclean
county,
soil,
water
conservation
district
that
we've
had
since
1992
in
a
formal
way
and
in
the
mid
80s.
C
Prior
to
that,
we
are
also
working
with
people
like
the
nature,
conservancy
and
the
environmental
defense
fund,
and
doing
some
work
with
some
innovative
ways
of
reducing
the
nitrates
that
are
entering
our
reservoirs.
Doing
some
really
fun
exciting
stuff
with
with
our
producers
and
some
of
this
adaptive.
Nutrient
management,
as
well
as
some
of
the
treat
constructed
treatment,
wetlands
and
other
methods
and
with
the
exciting
projects
that
we
have
with
our
lakeshore
stabilization
and
stream
stabilization,
as
well
with
the
illinois
epa
and
some
other
groups.
C
C
Besides,
just
looking
at
the
water
quality
in
terms
of
our
water
supply,
but
we're
also
trying
to
increase
the
habitat
and
make
these
lakes
more
of
the
gems
that
they
are
now
in
terms
of
recreational
use
and
having
a
wide
variety
of
people
enjoying
them.
But
anyhow,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
very
much.
I
thank
all
of
our
partners
here
and
it
you'd
be
here
till
10
o'clock.
If
I
were
to
name
everyone,
but
just.
C
C
Introduction,
I'm
sorry
when
when
he
was
introduced
they
said
he
was
humble
and
tireless,
but
they
didn't
say
anything
about
especially
enthusiastic.
I
think
we
appreciate
that.
D
That's
great,
thank
you.
Moving
on
to
the
introduction
of
frank
haylor
interim
pace,
director
city
manager,.
E
Mayor
and
we'll
have
frank
come
forward.
We
just
wanted
to
take
a
few
minutes.
Have
frank.
Just
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
his
background.
E
He's
been
with
us
just
a
short
time
now,
but
he's
come
on
the
heels
of
mark
huber,
who
retired
just
want
to
make
sure
that
any
of
these
interim
directors
brought
forward
to
kind
of
share
with
you
a
little
of
their
background
and
frank,
has
a
unique
experience
with
a
number
of
communities
here
in
illinois.
So
if
you
take
a
few
minutes,
frank
and
just
further,
introduce
yourself
well.
C
C
Suburbs
of
chicago
homewood
university
park,
romeoville
riverdale-
I
was
village
administrator
in
bourbon,
a
for
11
years
up
in
east
dundee.
For
about
four
years,
I
became
involved
with
gov
temps
in
in
2010
last
two
years.
I
served
as
the
interim
community
development
director
for
the
city
of
lockport
and
for
about
six
months,
while
I
was
there
also
the
interim
city
manager
as
well
during
that
period
of
time
so
bachelor's
degree,
political
science,
master's
in
government,
urban
studies,
mba
and
real
estate.
C
D
D
Seeing
then,
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda,
so
moved
moved
by
alderman
fazzini?
Is
there
a
second
second
second
by
alderman
fruit,
alderman
freely.
C
Yes,
mayor
with
both
the
consent
and
regular
agendas
items,
I
have
not
received
any
financial
benefits
from
any
of
the
parties,
organizations
or
individuals
and
these
agenda
items.
D
Thank
you.
If
there
is
no
discussion,
we
can
do
this
by
voice
or
well.
We
want
to
do
it
on
as
well.
Do
it
on
the
screen
and
it'll,
give
me
more
practice.
D
E
Thank
you,
mayor
and
council,
I'd
like
to
have
jim
karch
public
works
director
just
take
a
few
minutes
to
talk
about
these
three
contracts,
and
especially
in
as
much
as
there
is
going
to
have
to
be
some
further
negotiation
with
the
the
low
bidder
road
construction.
We
just
want
the
council
and
the
public
to
understand
that
we're
getting
close,
but
we
won't
have
the
final
set
of
streets
to
be
resurfaced
until
after
the
negotiations
on
reducing
the
particular
contract
award.
So
we
thought
it'd
be
helpful.
Just
to
have
mr
carter.
E
I
Thank
you,
city
manager,
hales,
mayor
and
city
council.
Back
in
the
fall
of
2013,
you
approved
a
10
million
bond.
We
talked
about
scheduling,
we
talked
about
the
difficulties.
We
talked
about
the
hoops
that
staff
would
have
to
jump
through
to
make
sure
that
we
had
a
comprehensive
plan
brought
to
you,
I'm
thankful,
to
say
we
met
the
deadline
by
being
here
tonight.
We
met
the
schedule
talked
about.
I
In
addition,
we
have
all
of
the
sewers
televised
under
these
streets.
This
is
the
really
that
first
time
that
we've
had
been
able
to
have
those
resources
been
able
to
do
the
a
block
by
block
complete
streets
block
by
block
philosophy.
So
this
is
a
good
turning
point
for
for
the
city
with
us.
We're
looking
at
I'll
be
talking
a
little
bit
about
the
asphalt
the
sidewalk
and
the
like.
But
let's
talk
about
the
the
resurfacing
contract
for
just
a
minute.
I
I
You
remember-
and
I
hope
you
hope
the
memory
serves
you
back
to
the
fall
where
I
said
this
won't
be
all
the
streets
we
resurface,
and
I
said
that
many
times
because
we
tried
to
say
we're
going
to
look
at
a
lot
more
streets
than
we
can
resurface
so
that
we
know
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
them
that
drop
out
because
of
sewer
issues,
and
so
tonight
we're
coming
to
you
and
we
we
said
we
we
knew.
We
only
had
the
this
eight
point,
almost
8.2
million
dollars
for
the
actual
resurfacing.
I
I
But
in
this
case
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
enough
streets
out
there
that
we've
already
done
the
homework
on
we've
already
looked
at
it's
not
as
if
they'll
go
away,
we'll
look
at
them
for
next
year,
the
ones
that
we
do
have
to
drop
off
for
a
little
bit.
So
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
now
is
we're
going
to
be
going
to
the
contractor
and
start
doing
some
value
engineering.
How
can
we
compress
what
ones
would
be
beneficial
to
to
maybe
put
off
for
one
year?
I
What
would
be
best,
then
we're
ready
for
next
year?
But
what
we'll
be
asking
for
is
just
for
you
tonight
to
allow
us
up
to
a
certain
amount
and
then
we
start
begin
discussions
with
the
contractor
some
streets.
Already
I've
heard
from
aldermen
I've
heard
from
some
citizens
hey.
This
was
on
there.
Originally
we've
had,
like.
I
said:
we've
already
really
identified
some
of
those
we've
had
to
drop
off
for
sewer
issues.
You
allowed
us
some
money.
We
have
for
the
sewer
work
we
actually
last
year.
We
already
did
some
sewer
work.
I
I
don't
know
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
drive
all
the
streets,
but
hopefully
you'll
see
a
few
of
those
nice
patches
in
the
road
that
we
actually
were
able
to
proactively
because
of
the
sewer
televising
fix
some
areas
and
that's
a
great
thing,
because
what
would
have
happened
is
we
would
have
overlaid
fixed
the
street
boy,
it
caves
in
a
year
or
two
there's
nothing
more
frustrating
than
that.
We've
done
everything
we
can
do
to
to
look
at
the
mainline
sewer.
I've
already
said
it's
always
good.
I
To
give
you
the
caveats,
I
can't
guarantee
the
sewer
services.
Those
are
the
difficulties,
those
are
the
you
know,
the
private
sewer
services,
but
the
main
lines
we've
televised
everything.
Let
me
move
on
to
the
the
sidewalks.
The
sidewalk
program
is
bigger
than
it
normally
is.
Normally
we
don't
have
that
big
of
a
sidewalk
program,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
you
understand
federally
we're
required
anytime.
I
We
resurface
the
street
to
make
the
ramps
compliant
with
ada,
so
it's
going
to
be
more
than
as
normal,
because
we're
doing
so
much
resurfacing
every
street
that
we
resurface.
That
goes
through
an
intersection.
We
have
to
redo
those
ramps,
so
the
positive
aspect
is
we're
redoing
a
lot
of
ramps.
In
addition,
here's
something
you
need
to
know
as
part
of
this
complete
streets
block
by
block
philosophy
anywhere,
where
we're
doing
resurfacing
we're
going
to
look
at
the
sidewalks
that
are
rated
one
twos
and
threes
anything
poor
or
less
we're,
also
replacing
those
panels.
I
That's
a
positive!
That's
a
good
thing!
So
again
the
intent
is
once
we're
done.
These
streets
will
be
in
good
shape,
but
also
so
will
the
sidewalks
and
we're
also
going
to
be
looking
at
the
the
street.
Signs
will
be
coordinating
the
water
department
make
sure
the
hydrants
are
painted.
Everything
is
in
good
shape,
so
this
is
one
of
those
good
coordinated
efforts
that
you're
seeing
the
last
thing
I
want
to
focus
on
is
continuing
the
program
of
what
we
talked
about
with
pavement
preservation
on
saturday.
I
Only
two
days
ago,
we
made
this
presentation
to
you
talking
about
the
state
of
our
infrastructure.
The
only
way
we're
going
to
there's
a
couple
different
ways:
we
can
catch
up
one
throwing
an
inordinate
amount
of
money
and
continuing
to
do
what
we
did
in
the
past.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
change.
We've
already
talked
to
you
about
this
change.
The
way
that
we
look
at
our
pavements
stretch,
the
life
of
them
stretch
the
stretch,
the
value
of
what
we're
putting
into
those
pavements
by
cheaper,
cheaper
services,
cheaper
ways
to
to
put
reclamite
crf.
I
It
stretches
the
life
similar
to
an
oil
change
on
a
car,
so
to
speak.
You
know
it
allows
that
car
to
run
longer,
if
you
don't
take
care
of
it,
it'll
fall
apart
sooner
so
tonight
we're
just
one
to
bring
this
to
you.
This
is
a
continuing
program
over
the
past
few
years.
Hopefully,
you've
continued
to
see
improvement
in
value
in
the
way
that
we
do
our
streets,
we're
not
there.
Yet.
I
want
to
make
sure
I
say
that
one
more
time
we're
not
to
the
tipping
point
yet
at
all.
I
D
D
Now
we
have
the
analysis
of
bids
and
approval
of
the
contract
for
the
2014
bond
general
resurfacing,
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
turn
that
over
to
our
city
manager,
mr
hills.
D
L
A
quick
question:
is
it
unusual
to
just
get
one
bid.
E
I
Oliver
and
painter
that's
a
great
question
that
has
been
asked
in
the
past
by
previous
council
members
and
current
some
current
council
members,
as
well
with
our
asphalt
plant.
We
do
put
that
out
for
bid.
There
are
other
vendors
who
also
can
bid
on
this
apple
up
north
mclean
county
asphalt
here
locally.
We
do
put
that
out
for
a
bid,
but
with
a
contract.
Maybe
this
size
they
didn't
choose
to
bid
on
it.
I
C
All
of
them
say
just
a
quick
comment:
jim
just
wanted
to
pass
along,
probably
speaking
for
the
council
thanks
to
public
works
and
to
engineering,
because
I
think
we
all
have
some
sense
of
of
the
magnitude
of
the
project
and
the
time
that
was
involved
and
how
there
were
so
much
work
done
on
this,
but
also
having
to
keep
the
wheels
on
in
a
lot
of
other
ways
so
pass
along
our
appreciation
to
your
team.
If
you
would
please
alderman.
I
D
Thank
you
other
questions,
comments,
oh
alderman,
stearns
and
then
alderman
lauer.
M
M
I
With
evans,
in
that
block
with,
as
you
recall,
we
have
on
the
internet
a
brick
street
strategic
plan.
We
have.
I
Categories
for
that
evans
is
one
of
those
we
actually
have
heard
from
residents.
Who've
asked
us
this
has
been
one
of
those
has
been
requested
to
be
resurfaced
and
not
in
good
shape.
As
me,
understanding
that
I've
received
and
whenever
I
drive
out
there.
This
is
one
of
those
that,
as
I
recall,
there's
a
lot
of
the
different
utility
patches.
It's
a
very
piecemeal
brick
street,
there's
some
that
are
really
pretty
that
you
want
to
say
again.
I
If
you
ever
get
a
chance
to
look
at
this
would
encourage
you,
there's
those
brick
streets
that
are
beautiful.
We
want
to
preserve.
If
there's
a
patch,
we
want
to
come
back
in
and
fix
the
brick
any
time
we
can,
and
then
there
are
some
that
they're,
just
not
in
good
shape,
they're,
not
not
easily
driven
the
citizens
actually
would
like
to
see
them
overlaid
and.
M
I
and
some
some
do-
I
mean
I-
I
totally
agree
with
that
and
I'm
I'm
kind
of
coming
late
here
to
to
this.
So
I
do
apologize
for
that,
but
I'm
wondering
so
we're
just
we're
definitely
going
to
resurface
over
the
brick.
Is
that
correct?
I
mean.
M
M
Okay,
I
didn't,
I
didn't
think
so
because
I
do
want
want
to
be
sure
they
understand
and
frankly
I
don't
think
they
do.
M
And
I
also
wanted
to
ask
that
question
about
taylor
street
what's
what's
plan,
for
I
think
that
I
think
that
might
be
the
reclamate.
That's.
I
Just
a
reclamite
so
the
what
probably
will
happen
and
I
could
see
happening
because
of
the
amount
too
of
the
of
these.
You
know
the
overall
resurfacing
dollars
that
we
have
right.
I
could
very
easily
see
that
evan
street
being
one
of
those
we
send
out
letters
because
in
the
beginning,
probably
weren't
aware
if
we
would
or
would
not
be
able
to
select
that
one
so
more
than
likely
we'll
send
out
letters
if
we
get
a
lot
of
you
know
folks
that
want
to
meet,
we
just
meet
with
it
and
do
it
next
year.
I
With
reclamite,
that's
I
don't
believe
that
block
all
the
check
is
we
wouldn't
be
reclaming
a
block
of
brick?
Okay,
that
probably
is
not
a
brick
block.
M
That's,
I
think,
that's
right.
I
think
you're
right
about
that,
but
I
did
want
to
clarify
on
evans
again
should
have
probably
you
know
called
you,
but
again,
you
know
got
fell
through
the
cracks
and
I
do
want
to
be
sure
that
those
citizens
are
aware.
And
yes,
if
there's
a
lot
of
feedback,
you
know
we
can.
We.
I
N
N
I'm
sure-
and
please
be
patient
with
us-
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
delayed
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
rerouted,
maybe
and
it's
it's
a
big
job
and
and
everybody's
going
to
have
a
little
piece
of
that
and
the
general
public's
going
to
be
just
right
along
and
and
be
very
careful
of
our
workers,
because
we're
exposing
them
in
a
very,
very
big
way
more
than
we
have
in
many
many
years
and
try
to
be
patient
with
with
what
we're
trying
to
do
here,
because
we're
really
trying
to
make
an
improvement.
K
K
I
That's
an
excellent
question:
the
difficulty
we
have
every
year.
This
is
actually
something
about.
Every
year
we
talk
about
with
resurfacing
with
our
council
in
the
past,
we've
actually
put
some
of
this
documentation
on
our
internet
and
I'll,
encourage
all
of
the
citizens
out
there
to
check
out
our
website,
because
we
actually
have
some
criteria
by
which
we
select
streets.
I
Some
of
that
will
be
lumping
some
areas
together.
Some
of
that
will
be
what
are
the
maybe
the
longer
stretches,
so
we
can
try
to
increase
and
lessen
mobility
because
anytime,
you
have
the
mobilization
cost.
You
increase
that
what
about
your
traffic
control
any
of
those
type
of
areas?
Those
are
the
things
we're
going
to
to
consider,
but
then
also
we
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
still
a
reasonable
spread
of
arterial
roads
and
some
of
the
residential
streets.
We've
said
before
that.
I
We
really
want
to
make
sure
we
get
a
lot
of
those
the
arterial
roads
done.
Those
are
the
ones
that
have
the
high
volume.
Those
are
the
ones
that
you
know:
five,
ten
thousand
vehicles
every
day
they
travel
that
road
and-
and
those
are
the
ones
we
hear
about
consistently,
but
it's
difficult
because
you
have
to
balance
that
with
even
if
it's
a
hundred
people
on
a
road,
you
don't
want
to
ignore
those
folks
either
because
they've
maybe
been
waiting
for
20
25
30
years
for
a
resurfacing
project.
C
D
There
we
go
motion
carries
nine
to
zero.
Thank
you.
Moving
on
to
the
next
item
is
analysis
of
bids
and
approval
of
contract
for
2014
bond,
sidewalk
replacement
and
handicap
ramp
program,
and
we
have
five
minutes
budgeted
for
that.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
so
I
move
move
by
alderman
fazzini's,
our
second
second,
second,
by
alderman
black,
mr
city
manager,
david
hills.
Anything
to
add
to
this.
E
Nothing
else
has
already
been
expressed
unless
there's
any
any
questions
council
had
for
the
city
staff.
D
D
By
all,
the
woman
painters
are
second,
second,
second,
by
older
woman
schmidt,
any
further
discussion.
D
I
actually
want
to
not
share
that
all
right,
we'll
go
ahead
and
vote.
There
is
no
questions.
C
L
K
D
E
Mayor
I'd
like
to
have
jim
karch
public
works
director
just
make
a
few
comments.
Typically,
you'd
find
this
type
project
on
the
consent.
However,
there's
a
number
of
actions
being
taken,
things
being
approved
things
being
rescinded,
but
two
we
do
have
a
very
significant
condition
incorporated
in
the
special
use
permit
having
to
do
with
the
secondary
road
and
I'd
like
to
have
jim
just
kind
of
mention
a
little
bit
about
this.
I
Thank
you,
city
manager,
hales,
mayor
and
city
council
with
this
project,
one
of
the
things
that
I
recall
back
in
early
2000.
I
got
to
be
the
resident
engineer
out
on
a
project,
veterans
and
hamilton
road.
Whenever
we
did
that
project
and
trinity,
lutheran
purchased
some
property,
they
were
really
looking
for
a
school
and
I
don't
know
if
all
of
you
caught
that
article,
but
it's
a
good
thing
to
celebrate
and
acknowledge
that
their
school
is
doing
very
well
recently
in
the
panograph.
I
They're
back
to
us
again,
there
were
a
couple
concerns
that
staff
expressed
as
we
kept
working
with
them,
and
I'm
thankful
to
tell
you
that
that
we're
able
to
work
that
out
and
come
to
to
an
understanding,
I'd
like
to
talk
to
you
about
those
two
things.
First,
our
own
public
works
department
are
having
some
issues
with
the
lift
station
out
there.
There
is
a.
I
There
is
actually
a
gravity
lift
station
that
takes
the
sewage,
not
a
fun
topic,
but
nonetheless,
reality
the
sewage
from
luther
oaks,
and
we
were
having
some
different
issues
with
the
material
coming
from
luther
oaks.
It
was
catching
in
our
lift
stations,
causing
call
outs,
causing
issues,
and
so
we
worked
with
them.
We
actually
put
in
a
screen.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
screen
was
on
added
as
part
of
this
special
use
permit.
I
We
were
thankful,
they
were
a
green
agreement
to
put
that
on
the
private
sewer
line
and
then
also
they're
putting
in
a
grinder
pump
for
extra
insurance
on
their
part.
So
we're
thankful
for
that
partnership.
The
next
facet
to
talk
to
you
about,
though,
is
the
secondary
access.
I
One
of
the
things
that
that
we've
talked
about
in
public
works.
A
lot
is
how
do
you
get
to
that
facility,
both
not
just
for
the
residents
but
but
also
for
our
fire
department,
fire
chief
kimberling
always
looked
at
that
with
you
know.
I
want
to
make
sure
whenever
you
add
that
skilled
nursing
unit,
that
is
a
very
high,
intense
need
for
our
fire
chief
and
also
with
any
any
of
the
needs
of
service,
needs
that
area.
I
One
of
the
other
facets,
though,
is
that
with
a
secondary
access
for
residents,
that
also
could
maybe
change
the
way
that
peop
their
residents
come
into
the
facility.
Maybe,
instead
of
going
along
lutz
road
and
having
to
improve
lutz
road,
maybe
they
would
come
down
hydloff
and
around
on
greenwood
and
have
a
different
access.
It
might
be
a
shorter
way
for
for
bloomington
to
have
to
improve
and
increase
our
road
to
accommodate
those
residents.
I
So
we
really
were
wanting
to
find
a
compromise
and
we're
thankful
that,
through
this,
this
dialogue
with
luther
oaks,
we're
able
to
maintain
that
great
partnership
and
and
ask
for
your
approval
tonight
for
this
good
project,
because
what
they
did
is
they're,
allowing
that
secondary
access
off
greenwood
and
my
thanks
to
trinity
lutheran.
They
allowed
that
additional
access,
because
it's
their
property-
and
that
was
one
of
the
difficulties
for
luther
oaks.
I
It's
their
property
that
there's
a
construction
entrance
that
will
be
maintained
for
emergency
access,
so
the
fire
department
can
can
cut
the
lock
if
they
need
to
get
in
through
that
area
and
service.
You
know
luther
oaks,
especially
the
skilled
unit,
the
additional
skilled
units.
So
with
that,
hopefully,
that's
the
description
of
those
two
criteria
for
this
special
special
use.
Permit
questions
of
mr
clarks.
D
Okay,
we
did
have
a
motion,
madam
clerk,
I
didn't
ask
for
the
oh,
that's
right,
I'm
sorry
that
was
presentation.
We
need
the
motion
to
approve
the
luther
oaks.
First
edition
special
use.
D
Motion
carries
nine
to
zero.
Thank
you
and
we
move
on
to
the
next
item
as
part
of
this,
the
petitions
from
luther
oaks
inc
to
rescind
the
final
plot
for
first
edition
to
lose
the
rogue
subdivision,
which
was
approved
by
the
council
on
august
12,
2013
and
approval
of
the
final
plot
for
first
edition
to
luther
oak
subdivision.
C
D
D
C
Mayor
can
I
make
just
a
brief
comment
absolutely
about
this,
and
I
will
be
brief
just
I
want
to
highlight
again
the
the
collaboration,
the
cooperation
between
trinity,
lutheran
church,
trinity,
lutheran
school,
lutheran
oaks
and
the
city
of
bloomington,
and-
and
I
know
that
partnership
has
always
been
a
positive,
professional
and
cooperative
one,
and
so
that's
that's
much
appreciated
here.
Just
to
highlight
a
couple
of
other
points.
The
skilled,
nursing
care
or
the
skilled
nursing
facility
will
add
about
30
full-time
jobs
out
there.
C
I
share
that
just
simply
for
background
and
awareness
and
and
again
just
to
highlight
that
that
sooner
or
later
we
we're
going
to
have
to
deal
with
the
the
lutz
road
issue.
I
know
next
month
we're
going
to
do
another
traffic
study
and
we'll
finish
up
work
on
the
design
for
for
loots
road,
and
those
are
some
important
steps
now.
C
Our
budget
this
year,
obviously
is
not
going
to
allow
us
to
do
anything
this
year,
but
but
just
share
that
with
you
to
say,
hey,
we,
we
have
good
positive
professional
partners
here
and
you
know
they've
waited
patiently
and
we're
making
some
concrete
steps
forward.
So
again,
just
for
general
awareness.
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you.
Alderman
lauer.
N
Just
wanted
to
support
david
in
those
comments
and,
and
just
add
that
you
know
this
has
been
a
very,
very
long
process
in
that
neighborhood.
I
think
all
of
the
above
that
are
involved
here,
have
it's
a
real
bright
spot
in
bloomington-normal,
especially
on
the
southwest
side,
and
it
adjoins
my
neighborhood
and
it's
one
of
the
few
major
projects
in
that
area
in
many
many
years,
so
we're
very
proud
of
what
they
all
are
doing.
Thank
you.
D
O
Director
karch
does
such
a
great
job
of
these
presentations.
I
asked
him
if
he
wanted
to
present
on
the
tax
issues,
but
he's
not
that
stupid
any
left,
but
I
I'm
here
just
to
present
on
a
couple
of
tax
issues.
There
are
two
items
before
you
tonight:
one
is
an
ordinance
updating
and
amending
our
the
penalty
provisions
of
our
tax
code,
not
enacting
any
new
taxes
or
anything
like
that
simply
to
update
our
tax
code.
We
we
found
some
inconsistencies,
some
issues
where
the
tax
provisions
were
a
little
outdated.
O
So
we
updated
those
it's
clear
now
for
staff
on
how
to
proceed
on
arrearages
on
interest,
that's
to
be
charged
on
penalties
to
be
charged,
so
those
provisions
have
been
updated
in
the
in
the
tax
code.
We
also
have
a
repayment
agreement
in
front
of
the
city
council
tonight
quickly
after
I
started
with
the
city
in
january.
One
of
the
first
issues
that
was
brought
to
my
attention
was
a
tax
arrearage
with
the
chateau.
O
That's
the
agreement,
that's
before
you
tonight
and
we
have
been
working
diligently
since
that
issue
was
brought
up
to
try
and
get
that
resolved
tonight.
We
are
before
you
with
a
comprehensive
agreement
that
is
going
to
allow
for
the
repayment
of
everything
that
is
back
due
from
the
chateau,
as
well
as
56
000
in
interest
12
thousand
dollars
in
penalties
for
a
total
repayment
of
two
hundred
and
eighty
eight
thousand
two
hundred
sixty
three
dollars.
O
There
will
also
be
interest
charged
on
this
it'll
be
repaid
over
three
years,
and
so,
in
addition
to
the
total
amount
due
right
now
of
288,
there
will
be
another
basically
77
000
paid
in
interest,
so
the
city
will
be
made
whole
by
this.
It's
the
kind
of
thing
that
going
forward.
We
want
everybody
all
the
businesses
in
the
community
to
know
this
is
something
we
take
seriously.
O
We
have
improved
our
procedure,
so
there's
greater
communication
between
the
department
of
finance
and
the
legal
department
so
that
we've
now
got
this
process
for
filing
tax
liens.
We've
got
this
process
for
making
sure
people
are
notified,
and
we
make
sure
that
this
is.
This
is
really
not
an
affordable
option
for
anybody
to
not
pay
their
city
taxes
when
they're.
Due
with
that,
I
will
answer
any
questions.
I.
D
Just
wanted
to
to
add,
for
the
council's
perspective,
we
I
was
made
aware
of
this
just
a
few
days
after
actually,
I
was
sworn
in
as
mayor
and
we
began
to
work
on
this.
We've
met
with
the
people,
the
chateau
and
on
the
liquor
commission.
The
thing
that
ultimately
we
had
was
before
we
gave
him
a
a
liquor
license
at
tony
roma's.
D
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
we're
on
the
path
to
an
agreement,
and
so
I
realized
they
had
tough
times,
but
a
lot
of
businesses
have
had
tough
times
and
it
can't
be
at
bloomington,
taxpayers,
expense,
and
so
I
think
we're
going
to
be
we're
going
to
be
made
whole,
and
I
thank
you
for
your
work
and
mr
boyle
for
his
work
on
this
and
the
city
manager.
We
we
managed
to
make
substantial
progress
anyway,
a
question
some
mr
jurgens
or
comments
alderman
fazzini
yeah.
C
I
guess
the
question
jeff
is
what
other
enforcement
actions
once
you
put
a
tax
lien
on.
O
Well,
there
are
a
couple
of
different
options.
One
option
is
always
to
take
somebody
that's
in
default
to
court
and
try
and
collect
on
it
that
way,
the
provisions
in
the
ordinance
basically
track
the
provisions
in
the
state
code,
the
department
of
similar
things
that
the
department
of
revenue
allows,
and
so,
if,
if
a
lien
is
actually
filed,
we
could
go
to
enforce
that
lien
and
actually
seek
closure
of
a
business.
O
Yes,
so
hopefully
it
would
never
come
to
that
in
that
type
of
situation,
really
nobody
wins,
but
at
the
same
time
you
can't
let
this
get
so
out
of
control
that
you're
in
a
situation
where
you're
you
know
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
behind
in
your
taxes.
So
I
think
that
really
kind
of
the
internal
protocols
where
we're
keeping
better
track
on
these
types
of
situations-
and
this
does
happen-
it's
not
unusual.
O
You
know
within
the
city
of
bloomington,
other
cities
have
faced
this
problem.
Other
businesses
have
faced
this
problem,
but
I
think,
as
a
city,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
on
top
of
this,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
businesses
know
that
we
are
keeping
track
and
we
are
going
to
enforce
our
tax
codes
and
we
are
going
to
make
sure
that
the
businesses
pay
the
taxes.
O
That
that
is
an
excellent
question,
and
I
would
have
to
refer
to
one
of
my
tax
experts
for
that.
I
know
that
it
would
allow
us
to
basically
go
out
and
close
the
doors
of
the
business
less,
and
it
very
well
very
well
may
allow
to
to
acquire
the
property
if,
if
it's
to
help
pay
for
the
lien
foreclose
on
it,.
C
Last
question
this
one
got
up
to
288
000.
I
don't
think
we
were
aware
of
that.
C
At
what
point
does
the
city
council
become
aware
of
a
problem
not
when
it
goes
past
60
days
when
it
gets
referred
to
legal,
but
at
some
point
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
know
that
we
have
a
problem
and
it's
this
dollar
amount,
and
it's
this
far
behind,
so
that
we
can
weigh
in
and
say
what
we
think,
whether
you
want
to
follow
it
or
not,
is
something
else,
but
is
there
a
mechanism
for
letting
us
know.
E
Let
me
answer
that,
because
this
particular
issue
was
brought
to
my
attention
by
patty
lynn
silver,
when
she
was
named
finance
director-
and
I
think
it's
be
it's
due
to
the
leadership
of
patti
due
to
the
change
over
and
we
have.
She
has
brought
on
some
excellent
employees
that
have
got
on
top
of
these
things.
So
certainly,
I
think
going
forward
one
I
need
to
make
sure
the
city
manager
is
brought
to
my
attention,
so
I
can
bring
it
to
your
attention.
E
Unfortunately,
this
is
one
that
wasn't
brought
to
my
attention.
You
know
early
on
in
the
process.
We
also
have
a
debt
collection
policy
and
procedure
that
is
yet
to
be
prepared.
That
will
kind
of
put
in
concrete
some
of
these
things,
because
what
we,
I
think,
all
of
us
realize
you
know
that
the
first
30
60
90
days
is
critical.
E
D
Just
as
as
mayor,
if
there
weren't
some
other
delicate
issues
with
respect
to
the
chateau
and
frankly
they're
acquiring
tony
roma,
there
were
some.
There
were
some
delicate
months
there
that
we
were
in
negotiations
and
discussions.
I
would
have
talked
to
you
all
about
this
if
it
were
happening
now,
we're
on
track
and
just
to
be
to
be
clear.
D
N
Just
just
to
reiterate,
mayor
renner,
thank
you
very
much
and
I'm
glad
we
do
have
a
vehicle
that
we're
at
least
talking
about,
and
I
would
emphasize
that
the
the
will
here
is
the
city
keep
the
business
in
business
to
do
business
absolutely
and
if
there
is
no
other
way,
then
at
some
point
then
maybe
we
could
look
at
foreclosure
or
whatever
we
have
to
do.
But
the
will
is
certainly
to
keep
folks
here
in
town
doing
business
thanks
absolutely.
O
Absolutely,
and
with
this
specific
case,
my
conversation
with
the
owners
of
the
chateau,
all
along
have
been,
we
want
you
to
succeed.
The
city
of
bloomington
wants
you
to
succeed,
this
agreement
that
we've
got
before
you
tonight.
They
feel
like
this
is
something
that's
going
to
allow
them
to
succeed.
They
want
to
get
this
re
this
repaid.
I
think
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
good
agreement.
All
the
way
around
that's
going
to
get
this
wrapped
up
within
three
years,
so
thank
you.
M
Turn.
Thank
you
a
couple
of
things.
First,
first
of
all
in
terms
of
the
chateau,
I'm
sure
they're,
not
the
only
institution,
you
know
business
that
has
has
fallen
into
this
with
the
various
hard
times
and
what
that
we've
had.
Can
you
give
us
an
idea
of
the
scope
of
this
across
the
city?
You
know
roughly,
maybe
any
idea
other
how
many
other
businesses.
E
All
others
are
very
current
now
we
have
had
a
couple
of
let's
say
I'm
trying
to
think
of
as
we
get
into
some
hotel.
Motel
we've
had
a
couple
of
bankruptcies
right
and
those
have
taken
place
where
the
amounts
have
not
been
that
significant
and
again,
that's.
Unfortunately,
that's
one
of
the
things
we
face
when
they
start
getting
behind
they're,
also,
probably
in
financial
distress
and
sometimes
bankruptcy
occurs.
Much.
M
O
I
have
utilized
an
attorney
in
our
office
in
springfield
who
was
a
senior
assistant
to
the
attorney
general's
office
on
revenue
and
litigation.
He
actually
represented
the
department
of
revenue.
He
helped
draft
some
of
these
provisions
in
our
ordinance.
He
was
kind
of
in
charge
of
collections,
so
I
have
relied
heavily
on
him
and
that's
a
question
that
the
city
manager
has
asked
me
to-
and
I
just
haven't
gotten
back
to
him
on
that.
M
Right
and
it
probably
the
property
tax
lien
would
take
precedence
and
then
maybe
it
would
be.
It
would
be
a
very
interesting
question
and
I
would
be
curious
because
you
know
frankly,
as
as
alderman
lauer
was
expressing
if,
if
a
business
is
approaching
any
kind
of
bankruptcy,
clearly
it's
very
much
to
our
advantage
to
work
with
them.
Yes
and
passing
this
legislation
or
ordinance
tonight
doesn't
in
any
way,
you
know
interfere
with
our
ability
to
work
with
that
business.
Oh.
M
O
Think
that
we
will
develop
internal
protocols,
you
know
in
terms
of
the
liens,
when
we
file
things
when
we're,
you
know
how
aggressive
we
attack
it
kind
of
goes
back
to
alderman
lauer.
You
know.
Obviously
we
want
businesses
within
the
city
to
be
successful
right,
but
on
the
same
time
you
know
you
can't
let
an
arrearage
you
know
grow
so
much
that
it's
basically
a
cheap
loan
for
a
business
right.
O
Cheap
about
you
know
the
agreement
we've
reached
with
the
chateau.
It
is
certainly
not
a
certainly
an
expensive
proposition
for
them.
M
Well,
that's
a
business
that
I
think
has
had
a
lot
of
you
know
difficulties
and
I
certainly
wouldn't
want
to
see
another
such
situation
as
we've
had
out.
There
occur
again
because
it's
it's,
you
know
it's
a
very
significant
and
visible
and
yes,
important
business
for
the
city.
I
think
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
I'm.
D
Going
to
turn
to
alderman,
reminding
everybody
we're
really
way
past
our
time,
but
obviously
this
is
important,
I'm
just
noting
that
ultimate
fazzini,
okay.
C
Let
me
just
share
a
little
bit
of
experience
before
joining
the
council.
One
of
the
hotels
that
was
having
a
similar
problem
and
mayor
you're,
correct,
what's
happening
is
they're
getting
the
money.
It's
not
like
property
tax,
they're
getting
money
every
month
and
they're
spending
our
money.
Okay,
60
days
of
that,
for
this
hotel
was
either
you
stop
doing
that
or
we're
going
to
close
the
doors
and
they
had
one
day.
C
What
you're
doing
is
giving
away
your
money
and
bankruptcy
by
not
acting
quickly,
so
no,
we
don't
want
to
close
them,
but
on
the
other
hand,
when
they're
using
our
money
to
stay
open,
that's
not
a
good
situation,
because
that's
money,
that's
going
to
all
the
other
creditors
frankly,
so
we
we
do
need
to
act
more
quickly
in
the
future.
This
one
worked
out
really.
Well,
I'm
I'm
delighted
how
it
worked
out.
Had
we
acted
more
aggressively.
D
F
D
All
right,
we
move
on
to
our
ask
mr
jurgens
to
stay
or
stick
around
here
as
we
move
forward,
because
we
have
questions.
We
have
the
text,
amendment
to
chapter
39,
addressing
the
enforcement
and
collection
of
city
taxes.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve,
as
president.
D
D
Okay
motion
carries
nine
to
zero
and
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
chateau
tax
repayment
agreement.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
move
by
alderman
middlewomboy?
D
E
As
she
does,
this
is
certainly
an
issue
that
came
up
during
our
recent
edc.
One
voice
trip
justine,
will
talk
about
this
and
some
of
the
information
we
heard
from
our
our
federal
congressional
representatives
on
this
very
topic.
Justine
thank.
P
You
city
manager,
hills
and
good
evening,
mayor
city
council.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
come
before
you
this
evening
and
provide
you
with
an
update
on
a
critical
piece
of
legislation
that
is
pending
and
working
its
way
through
congress.
As
we
speak,
the
marketplace
fairness,
sales
tax
act
is
indeed
a
piece
of
legislation
that
would
serve
to
level
the
playing
field
for
brick
and
mortar
retail
establishments
as
compared
to
online
retail
generators
such
as
amazon
or
or
others.
P
It
essentially
is
not
a
new
tax,
that's
being
created,
it
is
merely
an
adjustment
in
the
way
that
the
tax
is
being
collected.
Currently,
individuals
are
supposed
to
be
claiming
this
tax
on
their
income.
Take
income
tax
statements
around
this
time
of
the
year
every
year,
and
this
piece
of
legislation
would
alter
that
so
that
it
would
be
a
point
of
sale
collection
as
it
is
for
traditional
bricks
and
mortar
retailers.
P
The
international
council
of
shopping
centers
has
been
advocating
for
this
piece
of
legislation
over
the
last
several
years
and
tonight
we're
bringing
before
you
a
resolution
so
that
the
bloomington
city
council
can
show
its
support
for
this
piece
of
legislation
encourage
our
elected
officials.
I
know
senator
durbin
and
kirk
are
in
support
and
we
were
able
to
speak
with
them
as
city
manager.
Hales
alluded
to
when
we
were
in
washington.
D.C
durbin
actually
sponsored
co-sponsored.
The
piece
of
legislation
and
senator
kirk
voted
in
the
affirmative,
as
was
noted
in
your
council
packet.
D
Just
just
to
clarify,
it's
also
the
case
that
the
us
conference
of
mayors
has
endorsed
this
and
I
believe
the
national
league
of
cities
and
the
national
association
of
counties,
so
local
governments,
I'm
sure
the
state
government,
I'm
assuming
the
state
governments
are
on
board
with
it
as
well.
But
questions
comments,
starting
with
all
the
women's
turns.
We
technically
only
have
five
minutes
for
this,
but
we
can
have
a
little
leeway
following
sorry.
D
N
P
Sure-
and
I
I
believe
that
they're
currently
working,
which
is
why
it's
been
postponed
in
congress
to
iron
out
those
details.
Certainly
you
know,
point
of
sale
is
a
little
more
difficult
when
you're
working
with
online
retailers,
but
in
this
day
and
age
of
electronic
communications,
it
is
possible
to
pinpoint
where
those
sales
are
being
generated
from
and
and
track
and
pass
those
on.
So
I
know
it
is
a
point
of
of
information.
P
That's
been
studied
and
the
the
retailers
both
locally
on
the
state
level
and
national
level
are
all
in
support
of
of
making
sure
that
it's
a
cooperative
effort
to
see
this
through.
E
I
just
might
add,
currently
internet
internet
retailers,
don't
necessarily
add
a
sales
tax
on
the
purchase
price,
so
part
of
it
would
be
the
internet.
Retailers
would
have
to
charge
not
only
the
price
of
the
goods
but
the
sales
tax
and
then
remit
the
sales
tax
to
illinois
state
government,
which
in
turn
would
distribute
it,
as
is
currently
the
case
with
bricks
and
mortar.
So
that's
how
they
would
do
it.
D
There
apparently,
some
online
places
that
already
do
this
in
states
that
have
already
legislation
that
have
pioneered
this.
But
okay,
we
are
out
of
time,
but
I'm
gonna
have
so,
let's
be
quick,
alderman
black
and
then.
J
To
alderman
lauer's
point
this
morning,
I
actually
bought
something
online
and
it
took
my
billing
zip
code
and
then
was
able
to
do
an
estimated
attached,
which
I
look
forward
to
reporting
on
next
year's
taxes.
D
Millennial,
alderman,
fazzini,
sorry,
okay,
all
right
wonder
if
we
can
go
ahead
and
vote
then
on
this.
Thank
you.
Justine.
D
Motion
carries
nine
to
zero.
Thank
you,
okay,
and
we
move
right
along
to
our
presentation
by
mr
kimberling,
our
fire
chief
of
2013
annual
fire
statistics
and
fire
services
come
forward.
Thank
you.
Chief.
Q
Well,
good
evening,
myron
council
we've
already
covered
a
little
bit
of
this
presentation
during
our
budget
session
that
we
had
the
other
day,
but
so
I
will
try.
I
know
that
we
had
60
minutes
allotted,
so
I
am
going
to
try
to
be
brief
on
the
portions
that
you
may
already
be
aware
of
and
move
to
the
meat
of
the
presentation.
C
Q
60
to
start
with
right
right,
so
we've
a
budget
cut,
we
we've
abbreviated
it
and
in
the
essence
of
time
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
to
the
opportunity
for
all
of
you
to
have
questions.
If
you
have
any
so,
first
of
all
just
an
overview.
You
know
we
have
five
operating
fire
stations
in
the
city
of
bloomington.
For
those
who
don't
know-
and
there
are
locations
are
on
the
map
that
you
have
in
your
handout.
Q
We
have
headquarters
at
310,
north
lee
station
2
on
1911
east
hamilton,
road
station,
4,
1705,
south
morris
avenue,
station
6,
40,
40,
east
oakland
avenue
again,
as
we
talked
about
before
firefighters
in
city,
bloomington
worked,
24
48
shifts
basically
three
shifts
and
with
the
amount
of
time
that
they
spend
anymore,
we
are
actually
having
a
lot
of
guys
that
are
working
a
lot
of
overtime.
A
lot
of
these
guys
are
working
48-24's,
which
again
we
talked
about
in
our
budget
meeting
that
with
the
age
of
our
employees.
Q
This
is
definitely
something
that
we
need
to
consider
on
the
workload
of
our
fire
department.
Frontline
apparatus
two
truck
companies,
four
engine
companies,
18
personnel
assigned
daily
to
fire
apparatus,
18.
again
I'll
remind
you
again
of
the
conversation
we
had
on
on
the
risk
assessment
for
the
different
types
of
vehicles
and
buildings
or
the
buildings
we
have
in
our
community.
Q
So
that's
our
daily
staffing,
four
ambulances,
two
guys
per
ambulance,
one
ems
supervisor's
vehicle,
one
shift
commander
for
a
total,
and
then
we
have
our
aircraft
fire
response
for
the
airport.
One
person
dedicated
that
29
personnel
daily
serve
the
city
of
bloomington.
In
these
seats
every
day
we
have
a
hazardous
materials
response
unit
that
is
not
staffed
with
extra
personnel.
That's
a
that's
an
add-on
for
what
we
do.
It's
regional
team,
it's
in
cooperation
with
normal
who
has
the
trt
team.
Q
This
is
our
half
of
what
we
do
and
it
does
have
quite
a
bit
of
response.
We
actually
have
been
out
in
the
county
spent
some
time
in
normal,
helping
them
out
and
is
used
in
our
own
community
just
kind
of
an
overview.
This
is
a
little
bit
closer
view
from
what
we
looked
at
in
our
budget
hearing.
This
is
just
the
last
five
years
again.
Q
You
can
still
see
that
our
trend
for
call
volume
has
continued
to
increase
basically
up
over
ten
thousand
calls
for
the
last
couple
years
and
I'll
just
remind
you
in
2008,
we
had
already
broke
ten
thousand
calls
again,
so
we're
very
busy
department.
The
individuals
are
out
there,
providing
the
service
are
definitely
busy.
Q
Free
ems,
eight
thousand
calls
contact
with
over
thirteen
thousand
people
transported
about
sixty
one
hundred,
and
you
can
see
what
our
most
of
our
top
five
ems
response
types
are:
a
lot
of
motor
vehicle
accidents,
a
lot
of
things,
sick
person
non-specific
a
lot
of
times
with
with
the
pro-qa
system
that
we
use
in
our
dispatch
center.
Q
Q
Q
So
again
you
can
see
that
the
guys
are
busy
every
day
we
continue
to
have
a
lot
of
fire
loss
and
actually
fire
activity
in
our
community
station
percentages
by
far
headquarter
station
is
definitely
the
busiest
station.
It
is
the
only
two
company
fire,
the
only
cut
the
only
station
has
two
fire
vehicles
assigned
to
it
every
day.
Q
Everything
else
is
a
single
company
station
with
an
ambulance
and
again
you
can
see
that
the
call
of
arms
are
growing
I'll
point
out
again
that
in
our
illinois,
fire
chiefs
association
report
that
the
unit
utilization
rates
for
those
stations
for
headquarters
and
threes
are
getting
larger
and
larger
all
the
time
with
the
call
volume
and
the
areas
they
serve.
Q
Two
busiest
units
three
number
16
out
of
headquarters
and
again
just
just
for
information
here
we
have
2863
calls,
and
I
have
817
calls
for
engine
one
just
based
on
the
the
the
older
software
we
use
and
the
hard
time
we
have
with
pulling
some
of
the
data
out.
What
that
doesn't
capture
is
when
I
you
put
another
ambulance
in
for
three
or
16
headquarters.
It
may
or
may
not
show
that
that
aimless
is
going
out,
so
the
ambulance
out
of
headquarters.
Q
If
I
use
that
term,
probably
runs
more
calls
than
that
2800
and
the
engine,
that's
at
a
headquarter
station
probably
runs
more
than
800
calls
a
year.
So
just
so
you
know,
that's
that's
definitely
a
busy
station
and
the
second
busiest
vehicle
is
the
other
vehicle.
It's
a
truck
one
out
of
headquarters.
Q
As
we
talked
about
our
budget
discussion,
the
other
day,
the
nfpa
1710
standard.
I
know
that
you're
all
very
used
to
hearing
average
response
time.
Average
is
probably
not
a
very
good
measure,
because
if
we
go
out
on
a
couple,
calls
and
they're
only
two
minutes
and
we're
going
a
couple
calls
to
10
minutes
and
where
we
at
we're
at
five
minutes,
it's
probably
not
an
average
reflection
of
what
we
provide
to
our
citizens.
The
nfpa
uses
the
90th
percentile
as
a
measure.
Q
What
can
we
expect
90
of
the
time
for
our
for
our
calls
and
in
the
city
of
bloomington
right
now,
our
90th
percentile
times
are
eight
minutes
and
10
seconds
for
a
fire
response
and
nine
minutes
for
an
ems
call
a
lot
of
times.
We
get
asked
the
question
of.
Why
do
we
send
a
fire
apparatus
on
an
ems
call?
Q
Monthly
call
totals
highs
are
in
900
calls
in
august.
Can
anybody
guess
why
february
is
low?
That's
right,
very
good.
The
least
number
of
we
always
run
february's,
our
lowest.
Usually
the
least
amount
of
days
averaging
837
calls
27
calls
a
day
average,
pretty
much
consistent,
busiest
day
and
slowest
days
do
fluctuate
year
to
year.
This
time
it
was
the
sunday
was
the
busiest
day
and
the
slowest
was
monday.
That's
a
interesting
trend
for
us.
Q
Slowest
hour
definitely
4
a.m,
but
our
busiest
hour
again
has
fluctuated
from
time
to
time.
We
start
to
pick
up
our
business
around
8
o'clock
in
the
morning.
Business
picks
up
immensely
for
us
up
and
then
actually
stays
pretty
consistent
until
almost
midnight
11
o'clock
hour
by
hour
before
it
starts
to
drop
off
again
other
activities
and
programs.
In
addition
to
just
going
on
fire
and
ems
calls
and
service
calls,
our
personnel
do
quite
a
bit
of
other
things
too,
that
that
that
are
really
important
to
the
community.
Q
One
of
them
is
we
partner
with
the
water
department.
Do
our
fire
hydrant
inspection
program,
the
use
that
the
ability
to
have
avl
in
the
in
the
vehicles,
the
automatic
vehicle
location,
allows
us
to
go
out
and
do
this
and
still
keep
those
vehicles
in
service.
Q
But
it
is
a
lot
of
work
on
the
guys
who
are
already
out
there.
You
know
running
calls
all
day
long
with
over
5000
hydrants
in
the
community,
try
to
check
every
one
of
them
every
year
to
make
sure
that
we
get
credit
for
them
and
that
are
operating
properly,
but
it
is
very
important
training,
unfortunately,
to
keep
a
fire.
A
fire
service
group,
highly
skilled
and
operating
safely
doing
the
best
job
they
can
training
is
impo
is
critically
important.
Q
One
of
the
big
big
problems
we
have
with
the
amount
of
business
that
we
do
every
day
is
is
trying
to
get
the
guys
through
training
classes,
the
guys
on
the
on
three
or
16
at
headquarters,
they're
lucky
if
they
make
a
full
training
class
in
a
day
because
we're
training
while
we're
on
duty.
So
it's
very
very
difficult
to
meet
these
training
hours.
But
it's
very
important.
Q
So
we
we
do
spend
a
lot
of
time
trying
to
make
sure
we
meet
these
training
hours
a
lot
of
times
on
the
when
the
guys
working
on
a
saturday
or
sunday
shift
they're
out
there
doing
the
training
to
try
to
make
up
for
it.
Unfortunately,
again
sunday
was
our
busiest
day
this
year,
so
it
was
a
little
bit
difficult
for
him
to
do
noxbox
program,
if
you
haven't
seen
him
before,
knoxbox
is
required
on
all
city
on
all
businesses
and
and
residences
that
have
an
alarm
system
on
them.
Q
It
allows
us
to
have
access
to
the
house
without
having
to
tear
the
doors
open
back
in
the
1980
early
1980s.
When
I
came
on
people
didn't
like
it
too
much
when
there
was
an
alarm
in
their
building,
we
broke
in
to
see
what
was
going
on
and
they
showed
up
and
said.
Well,
we
had
the
key
here
so
though
this
is
a
program
that
allows
us
to
get
entry
into
the
the
building
when
nobody's
there.
We
also
have
a
maintenance
program
for
that
to
make
sure
they
operate
properly.
Q
It
doesn't
do
us
any
good
to
have
the
box.
We
can't
get
into
it
all
right
so
rating.
We
have
an
iso
rating
right
now
of
three.
I
think
that
everybody's
pretty
familiar
with
that
just
so
everybody
knows
iso
is
coming
back
in.
They
are
actually
scheduled
to
be
here
on
april
14th
to
rate
us
again.
They
have
a
new
rating
schedule.
We
have
not
seen
it
yet.
It
will
be
interesting
to
see
how
we
fare
so
we'll
see
we'll
we'll
make
sure
to
keep
you
informed
on
that.
Q
We
do
have
the
training
tower.
It's
a
an
excellent
piece
of
equipment
for
us
to
get
out
there
when
we
can
get
to
it.
Our
personnel
found
it
extremely
useful.
I
think
it
actually
has
helped
us
in
our
deployment.
We
have
seen
an
increase
in
some
of
the
safety
on
our
fire
grounds
and
some
of
our
operational
efficiencies
on
the
fire
ground
as
a
result
of
having
this
this
piece
of
equipment-
and
it
is-
has
paid
some
dividends
for
us.
Q
Instead
of
trying
to
get
people
out
of
town
which
is
expensive
to
pay
the
training
costs
to
get
them
out
our
public
education
program.
We
have
one
public
education
officer.
If
you
haven't
met
captain
mccomb,
I
think
you
need
to.
He
does
a
phenomenal
job.
He
has
a
program.
He
uses
puppets
to
teach
a
lot
of
different
various
programs,
not
only
fire
safety,
but
bike
safety.
Stranger
danger,
he
is
in
high
demand
at
the
schools
he's
been.
Q
He
won
the
life
safety
educator
of
the
year
award
from
the
state
of
illinois
for
his
programs,
very,
very
cutting
edge
he's
been
asked
to
do
all
sorts
of
programs
he's
he
does
a
phenomenal
job
and
then
on
the
adult
side
he
has.
He
has
public
programs
for
the
adults,
but
we
do
fire
extinguisher
training
for
people
and
our
cpr
and
aed
training,
again
we're
working
with
cooperatively
with
the
police
department
on
their
aed
training.
So
we
can
make
sure
that
we
can
use
those
in
the
in
the
public.
Q
We
also
partnered,
with
the
bloomington
era
career
center
at
the
bloomington
high
school,
we're
trying
to
grow
on
firefighters
in
the
community
here
to
start
to
get
more
and
more
of
the
the
young
people
in
our
community
to
actually
apply
for
their
fire
department
to
be
part
of
our
our
department
moving
forward.
So
we've
actually
started
a
program
with
them
that
will
get
them
through
their
medical,
responder
training
and
hopefully
can
jump
start
them
into
the
paramedic
program
at
heartland,
community
college
and
thereby
start
to
get
people
who
can
test
here
locally.
Q
We
have
a
fire
service
users
survey
as
with
every
survey
where
we're
having
some
issues
in
getting
people
to
fill
them
out,
but
we
have,
we
have
been
headed
out
there
for
a
while
we're
trying
different
millions
trying
to
get
input
from
the
from
the
public
on
how
we
provide
service.
So
far,
her
marks
have
been
very
good.
Q
We
people
think
that
we
do
a
very,
very
good
job
out
there,
but
again
I'd
like
to
get
some
more
data
before
we
start
to
share
that,
then
we
just
started
our
premise
alert
program.
I
think
everybody
remembers
the
old
ici
program,
the
invalid
or
child
inside,
and
the
program
was
discontinued
due
to
the
fact
that
people
didn't
want
stickers
on
their
windows,
telling
somebody
that
was
inside,
who
might
not
be
able
to
take
care
of
themselves
with
the
mobile
data
terminals.
Inside
of
the
fire
apparatus.
Q
People
can
now
fill
out
forms
online
and
that
information
just
goes
right
on
that
mdt
to
the
firefighters
who
respond
on
the
scene,
to
let
somebody
know
about
any
kind
of
issues
inside
and
that's
actually
cooperative
with
the
bloomington
police
department.
Actually,
it's
it's
done,
I
think,
also
with
normal,
so
a
very,
very
good
program,
we're
on
social
media
now
and
facebook,
and
I
just
want
to
go
over
some
of
our
2014
accomplishments.
I
think
everybody
here
should
be
familiar
with
the
illinois
fire
chiefs
association
report.
Q
We
did
with
all
the
recommendations
we're
trying
to
base
our
operations
on
what
we
do
to
try
to
meet
some
of
those
benchmarks.
In
there
we
got
our
ems
chip
supervisor
signed
was
not.
It
was
not.
A
new
hire
was
just
a
lateral
promotion
for
for
a
couple
of
of
our
personnel
aerial
ladder
replacement
in
this
year's
budget,
we
were
able
to
add
additional
firefighter
per
shift
to
try
to
reduce
some
of
the
overtime
number,
and
then
we
also
reinstated
the
deputy
chiefs
position,
which
was
vacated
when
I
was
promoted.
Q
Our
focus
this
year
has
been
to
develop
a
new
agreement
with
central
law
regional
airport.
We
talked
about
our
aircraft
services.
That
agreement
is
set
to
expire
in
2015.,
we're
trying
to
update
our
dispatch
radios
to
starcom,
so
we
can
improve
our
response
capabilities
and
our
cooperation
with
normal.
Again,
a
big
thing
for
us
is
continuing
to
work
with
the
town
of
normal,
see
how
we
can
improve
the
way
that
service
is
delivered
for
both
communities
and
then
upgrade
our
station
of
learning
they'll
also
give
us
more
information
and
help
us
on
our
turnout
time.
Q
Some
of
our
future
needs.
We've
talked
about
reinstatement
of
the
engine
company
in
station
three.
The
traffic
signal
preemption
system
for
the
community
is
a
huge
one.
Some
of
the
only
way
to
really
improve
some
of
our
response
times
is,
is
to
be
able
to
to
move
traffic
out
of
the
way
and
and
I'll
tell
you,
the
engineering
department
under
you
know
jim
karcz
and
kevin
cothe.
Q
They
they
know
it's
out
there
and
and
it's
it's
an
issue
that
we
would
continue
to
look
at
for
traffic
moving,
not
only
for
emergency
vehicles
but
across
the
community,
for
everything
additional
ammo
is
for
increasing
ems
response.
Again,
we
talked
about
one
of
the
reasons
why
our
response
times
are
going
up
is
the
analogy
that
I
think
are:
data
analyst
was
using
when
we
had
the
the
interim
from
the
the
americorps
program.
Was
that
we're
like
a
dog
chasing
our
tail?
Q
An
aimless
goes
out
in
a
district
to
take
a
call,
and
then
another
ambulance
from
another
district
has
to
come
over
and
then
that
district
has
a
call.
So
then
an
ambulance
is
circling
around
to
there
and
it
just
drives
your
your
response
times.
Up
and
again,
most
of
those
calls
are
generated
out
of
the
headquarters
just
districts,
so
the
thought
of
having
another
ambulance
added
to
that
station
to
meet
that
demand
is
again
on
our
list.
Q
Future
needs
an
additional
six
personnel
again
by
the
it's
report
will
get
us
to
the
point
where
we
could
actually
reduce
our
overtime
number
a
lot,
an
upgrading
of
the
engine
company
capabilities
to
als.
So
we
can
again
when
the
ambulances
are
out.
D
Okay
questions
comments
for
our
distinguished
chief
who
came
in
under
budget
alderman
through.
C
Mike,
thank
you
very
much.
What
are
the
couple
reasons
that
prompt
over
time,
one
of
the
highest
reasons
of
prompt
over
time.
Q
The
highest
reason
benefited
leave.
We
have
vacation
and
kelly
days
that
are
allotted
for
personnel
and
when
they're
not
there
and
also
injury
job
injury,
those
three
things:
it's
really
to
fill
the
seats
in
the
in
the
vehicles
to
get
them
back
out
the
door.
Those
are
those
are
the
biggest
reasons
why
in
the
fire
chief's
report,
if
you
look
at
the
eye
cheese
report,
there's
a
recommendation
for
how
many
people
you
should
have
on
the
ship.
C
Q
Yes,
and
no
I
mean
it
depends,
it
depends
on
how
many
how
many
people
can
be
moved
under
shift.
It's
I'll
tell
you
it's
a
very
complex
system.
We
were
really
looking
for
the
munis
process
to
be
able
to
give
us
a
there's.
There's
products
out
there
that
help
with
what
we
call
staffing
models,
so
you
can
actually
do
that,
but,
for
example,
an
aircraft,
a
harp
driver,
the
guy
that
rides
the
crash
truck,
has
to
be
certified.
So,
if
he's
gone
for
the
day,
we
have
to
get
somebody
to
certify.
Q
D
And
in
order
alderman
middlewumble,
followed
by
schmidt
and
fizzini,.
K
Sure,
okay,
I
have
a
couple
easy
questions.
First,
one
would
be,
and
on
saturday
you
talked
about
the
number
six
minutes.
So
could
you
explain
for
us
again
why
this
six
minutes
is
what
you
shoot
for?
Why
it's
important.
Q
There
are
two:
there
are
two
reasons
why
one
for
fire,
one
for
ems
on
the
fire
side,
there's
something
called
the
fire
propagation
curve
and
what
it
does
is
that
it's
a
model
that's
been
around
for
a
long
time
that
predicts
how
long
it
takes
when
a
when
a
room
catches
on
fire
when
there's
an
object
that
catches
on
fire
in
a
room.
Q
How
long
it
takes
that
room
to
reach
what
we
call
flashover,
which
is
when
the
entire
room
and
all
the
combustibles
within
that
room,
light
on
fire
and
for
anybody
who's
seen
the
sprinkler
demonstration.
That's
when
that
whole
room
goes
on
fire
and
once
that
happens,
people
are
not.
You
cannot
survive
in
that
environment.
There's
no
survivability
and
the
fire
propagation
curve,
which
was
done
years
ago,
says
that
at
10
minute
mark
that
room
goes
to
flashover.
Q
So
we
try
to
get
there
in
six
minutes
because
again,
then
you
have
deployment
time
and
everything
else
to
try
to
interrupt
that
by
putting
water
on
the
fire.
The
one
other
issue
with
that
is
is
that
we're
getting
more
and
more
studies
out-
and
I
don't
know
how
many
people
have
been
paying
attention,
but
now
with
the
furnishings,
have
been
put
into
residential
homes
with
all
the
plastics
and
everything
which
are
basically
hydrocarbon
fuels.
Q
We
have
changed
the
dynamic
of
house
fires
in
the
united
states
and
actually
in
building
fires,
we
were
putting
basically
more
fuel
load
into
all
these
homes,
with
the
it
used
to
be
that
you
know,
chairs
were
stuffed
with
with
with
cotton,
batting
and
wool
coverings,
and
now
they're
basically
have
foam
cushions
in
them,
so
we've
actually
changed
the
dynamics,
so
getting
there
rapidly
is
very,
very
important
for
that.
So
that's
your
six
minutes
for
on
the
fire
side.
Q
On
the
ems
side,
four
to
six
minutes,
irreversible
brain
damage
starts
to
occur
in
somebody
in
cardiac
arrest.
So
we
shoot
for
that
six
minute
mark
to
try
to
make
sure
we
can
get
there.
So
we
can
get
definitive
care.
Make
sure
that
we
we
can
actually
do
something
to
to
reverse
that
that
trend
and
that's
why
those
things
are
used
as
national
standards.
K
Other
question
I
have
is
the
iso
rating
is
three
for
us
right.
Three.
Q
B
I
also
wanted
to
underscore
your
your
presentation
from
saturday
that
was
very
sobering
and
I
appreciate
you
sharing
that
I
I
really
feel
like
you
know.
We
have
both
a
legal
and
a
moral
obligation
to
address
that
that
gap
to
get
us
faster
response
time.
I
had
the
on
the
now
defunct
safety
committee.
I
you
know
the
opportunity
to
get
out
to
some
of
the
stations
and
see
what
some
of
your
folks
are
working
with.
B
C
B
And
finally,
I
just
I
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
for
brad
mccollum
he's
I've
seen
him
he's
been
to
my
workplace
a
couple
times
and
what
we
learned
from
him
and
the
way
that
we
think
about
disaster
training
in
my
library
and
on
our
university
is,
I
I
give
it
to
him
for
helping
us
get
our
hands
around
that.
So
thank
you.
C
Q
When
we
looked
at
the
illinois
fire
chiefs
association
report,
we
looked
at
the
amount
of
overtime.
We
start
looking
at
the
number
of
people
we
call
in
per
day
what
what
I
did
for
and-
and
I've
talked
to
the
city
manager
hales
about
it
is,
is
what
we
try
to
look
at
is.
Is
that
it
has?
It
has
a
lot
to
do
with
how
many
seats
you
have
to
fill
each
day
so
and
then
how
much
you're
budgeting
for
your
overtime.
Q
So
what
I
looked
at
is
that,
right
now,
a
brand
new
firefighter
is
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year
now
in
using
our
hr
department
to
try
to
run
numbers
on
all
the
benefits
you
that
you
have
to
figure
in.
Q
D
You,
okay,
alderman
stearns
and
then
painter.
M
Q
I
would
three
hundred
thousand
dollars,
in
fact
this
year's
budget.
When
we
talked
about
the
17
personnel
in
the
overall
budget,
there
are
three
firefighters
in
there
and
part
of
what
our
balancing
act
is.
Is
that
if
we
take
those
three
firefighters
out,
I'm
gonna
ask
for
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
back
in
the
overtime
budget
to.
M
Q
And
the
only
way
that
it
will
affect
it
and
again
we
are
looking
at
these
things,
but
in
the
illinois
fire
chief
association
report,
we
had
a
lot
of
conversation
with
with
them
in
their
in
their
numbers.
If
we
get
if
we
get
to
nine
extra
personnel,
three
extra
per
shift,
whereas
we
just
put
one
on
this
year,
we
have
another
three
that
were
kind
of
in
the
budget
for
you
next
year.
Q
What
we
looked
at
is
how
many
days
of
the
year
and
again
we're
having
to
do
this
by
hand
with
our
data
records.
So
it's
very
tedious,
but
but
if
we,
if
we
have
had
three
extra
peaceful
person
per
shift,
how
many
times
will
we
actually
have?
Would
we
be
riding
heavy
on
apparatus?
If
I've
got
29
seats
to
fill?
How
many
times
would
I
have
31?
Because
if
I
get
to
31
for
a
day,
because
we
don't
have
anybody
on
vacation
or
something
like
that,
we
can
put
another
amazon
service.
Q
Q
And
usually
they're
a
holiday
wow.
So
so,
if
you
get
to
the
point
where
you
have
extra
people
on
ship,
you
know
20
days
60
days.
How
many
days
you
know,
can
you
anticipate
you're
gonna
have
experts
on
again
a
lot
of
it
too,
with,
as
we
talked
about
in
our
meeting
41
year
old
average
employees?
How
many
injuries
do
we
have,
and
things
like
that?
So
it's
very
hard
to
for
me
to
to
guess,
because
the
first
time
I
say
that
we
end
up
with
two
job
injuries
and
we're
back
to
minimum
staffing
again.
M
Q
It's
not
happening
a
lot,
but
it
does
happen.
Okay
and
we
call
it
running
short.
No,
there
are
yeah
and
we
have
to
make
decisions.
Typically,
what
happens
is
that
the
ems
supervisor
that
that
goes
first
and
then
after
that,
then
we're
into
trying
to
figure
it
out.
M
Wow
well
and
lastly,
now
these
staffing
things
does
that
have
to
do
with
our
rating.
You
know
the.
A
Q
It
will
have
some
impact,
the
one
the
one
thing
I
don't
want
to
go
too
far
on
is:
I
have
not
seen
iso's
new
schedule.
I
know
in
the
past
it's
based
on
how
many
engine
companies
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
we
had
to
do
post
our
last
iso
visit,
which
was
almost
10
years.
It's
been
about
seven
or
eight
years
ago.
Is
our
city
has
expanded
since
then,
so
they're
going
to
look
at
that
that
they're
going
to
look
at
that
mileage,
we're
at
that.
A
Q
M
Well,
I
know
we
don't
want
to
get
into
a
into
compromising
public
safety
in
any
way,
shape
or
form.
When
we're,
you
know,
heaven
forbid,
running
short
and
have
some
you
know
have
one
of
those
days
which
certainly
could
happen.
So
I
really
appreciate
what
you're
telling
us
and
I
think
we
need
to
think
first
about
you-
know
public
safety.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
Actually,
before
I
move
on
to
older
woman
painter,
I
wonder
if
I
could
have
a
question
now.
The
the
addition
of
three
firefighters
would
not
directly
affect
the
response
times,
but
aren't
they
part
of
a
necessary
component
for
you
in
your
overall
operations
to
begin
to
move
down
that
path.
Q
Well,
there
were
a
couple
things
we
asked
for
in
this
year's
budget.
Actually,
I'll
be
honest,
I
asked
for
12.,
I
asked
for
nine
for
a
new
engine
company
and
then
three
to
alleviate
the
overtime
situation
and
try
to
try
to
address
some
of
those
things.
But
but
yes,
any
staffing
does
help
again
you're
right.
L
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
older
woman
karen
just
that
I
think
what
you
do
is
really
critical
and
if
we
could
somehow
find
some
funding
for
you,
I
think
that
would
really
be
a
good
thing,
because
this
is
about
people
living
and
dying,
and
I
really
appreciate
everything
that
everybody
does
at
the
fire
department
and
I
just
hope
we
can
work
something
out.
Q
I
would
just
like
to
leave
you
with
one.
I
think
one
of
the
most
disheartening
things
that
I've
I've
heard
in
my
career
as
a
chief
is
when
we
have
someone
call
and
complain
and
say
that
you
know
they
had
one
of
their
family
members
fall,
had
a
very
serious
head
injury
and
our
guys
did
everything
they
could
to
get
there
as
rapidly
as
they
could
and
when
she
called
to
complain.
Q
She
said
it
took
them
seven
or
eight
minutes
to
get
there,
and
you
know
I'm
looking
at
this
thing
and
I'm
thinking
it's
amazing.
Our
guys
got
there
in
seven
or
eight
minutes.
It
was
absolutely
amazing
they
did
and
her
question
to
them
was
well.
If
I
said
my
my
husband
or
my
father
would
have
had
a
heart
attack.
Would
you
have
gotten
here
any
faster
and
our
guys
are
like
no
ma'am.
Q
This
is
a
true
emergency
we
treated
as
such,
and
we
couldn't
have
done
any
better
and
and
that's
the
situation,
unfortunately,
that
our
firefighters
are
in
just
every
day.
People
look
at
them
say
what
took
you
so
long.
What
took
you
so
long
and
they're
like
we're
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
and
and
it
and
it's
not
just
staffing,
you
know
it's
it's
deployment
areas
I
mean
the
city
continues
to
grow.
Q
We
have
a
huge
footprint
now
and
and
just
trying
to
make
sure
we've
got
the
resources
and
in
all
these
areas,
as
we're
spread
out
is,
is
very
difficult.
So
you
know
just
keep
that
in
mind
that
even
putting
another
vehicle
in
some
stations
you
know,
may
not,
you
know,
may
have
very
little
improvement.
You
know
on
some
of
the
fringe
areas
of
our
community,
just
based
on
its
overall
size.
Now.
D
Q
And
and
oh
and
ages,
oh
right,
we
and
those
are,
and
they
are
all
you
know,
issues
now
again.
The
the
one
thing
about
development
is
is
that
it
goes
slow.
You
have
your
90
percent,
your
nine
your
response
times
on
those
areas.
If
you
have
to
meet
your
ninth
percentile
you're
still
going
to
make
it,
and
I
think
sometimes
you
know
when
people
move
into
areas
on
the
prince
of
our
community.
Q
D
E
Mayor
and
council,
the
one
thing
I
would
ask
you
tonight
is
that
it's
you
know
our
committee
of
the
whole,
the
zoo
made
a
presentation
on
the
timeline
and
the
scope
of
work
for
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
what
we
are
proposing
that
on
the
so-called
steering
committee,
which
will
be
made
up
of
a
number
of
individuals,
including
the
mayor
city
managers,
some
directors,
some
chairman's
committees.
We
are
hoping
that
we
could
maybe
get
two
aldermen
in
addition
to
the
mayor
to
serve
on
that
steering
committee.
E
The
sue
was
here
today,
just
giving
us
a
monthly
update
at
our
director
staff
meeting,
but
I've
just
requested
the
mayor
and
the
council
to
consider
is:
could
we
get
to
aldermen
to
serve
on
that
comprehensive
plan
steering
committee
to
join
others?
We
are
trying
to
schedule
monthly
meetings.
We
are
going
to
look
at
how
we
can
accommodate
both
people
who
work
and
and
don't
work,
but
that
is
the
one
thing
we're
hoping.
D
What's
the
timetable
on
that,
when
would
we
need
people
to
to
tell
me
step
up
to
the
plate
and
tell
them.
F
D
F
E
Really:
okay:
we
need
to
get
those
and
we'll
be
sharing
two
this
every
month
we'll
be
giving
you
an
update.
What's
going
on
with
comp
plan
what
staff
doing
right
now
we're
still
in
a
lot
of
data
gathering,
but
we
do
feel
it
would
be
important
and
beneficial
to
have
again
to
aldermen
volunteer
get
with
the
mayor
so
that
we
could
submit
those
names
to
the
regional
planning
commission
and
with
that
I'll
wait,
I
think,
there's
some
reports.
E
I
did
send
out
an
email
today
on
our
one
voice,
trip
which
really
just
gives
all
council
members
some
of
the
mental
health
information.
So
I-
but
I
do
think
the
mayor
and
several
of
the
aldermen
want
to
make
some
comments
and
I'll
come
back
and
follow
up
with
anything
else
that
may
come
after
those
comments
on
one
voice.
D
D
Thank
you,
yeah.
Actually,
I'm
going
to
be
reserving
most
of
my
all
comments
to
a
a
budget
reaction
budget
message,
but
I
I
do
want
to
say
that
we
actually
was
sick,
then,
two
weeks
ago,
in
dc.
So
I
I
don't
know
what's
going
on
here
and
I
want
to
certainly
thank
all
the
women
sterns
for
for
joining
us
on
the
one
voice
trip.
We
did
speak
with
our
congressional
representatives.
D
We
spoke
with
some
undersecretaries
and
actually
alderwoman
stearns,
and
I
were
there
of
the
department
of
health
and
human
resources,
health
and
human
services,
about
our
mental
health
situation
and
in
the
national
league
of
cities
which
I
had
alderman
black
and
mello
wombway
join
us.
We
certainly
had
some
very
interesting
panel
discussions.
One
was
three
hours
on
downtown
and
frankly,
when
I
heard
the
stories
of
other
people
throughout
the
country,
I
thought
wow.
D
They
must
have
come
to
bloomington
and
elsewhere,
and
one
of
the
things,
though,
that
is
certainly
comforting,
is
that
there
are
many
communities
that
are
similar
to
our
size
that
are
infill.
One
was
between
tacoma
washington
and
seattle.
Another
and
two
others
in
the
suburbs
of
dallas
and
houston
that
they're
trying
to
build
a
core
in
a
downtown.
They
don't
have
one,
they
want
a
soul.
You
know
we've
got
ours,
we
just
have
to.
You
know
work
on
it.
D
So
in
many
ways
we
found
that
there
we
had
similarities,
but
our
task
at
hand
was
perhaps
not
as
steep
as
others,
and
I
will
let
all
the
women
stearns
and
her
remarks
perhaps
comment
further
on
the
one
voice
and
perhaps
ultimate
black
and
military,
on
the
national
league
of
cities.
Environment.
D
Mostly
what
I
want
to
talk
about
tonight-
and
I
ask
your
indulgence,
but
this
is
really
important-
is
our
budget
and
on
saturday
I
think
we
made
some
really
important
progress
in
our
budget
meeting.
We
indicated,
although
of
course,
not
unanimously
that
we
accepted
the
city
manager
street
resurfacing
option
to
do
10
million
and
not
before,
but
not
new
positions,
keep
our
bold
public
safety,
pension
funding
policy
and
perhaps
an
amusement
tax,
close
some
of
the
deficit
and
a
tentative
exploration
of
a
gas
tax
at
some
point
for
future
road
resurfacing.
D
And
while
this
is
certainly
progress,
I
think
our
work
is
incomplete
and,
as
my
concerns
are
that
we
still
have
a
budget
that
is
millions
of
dollars
in
the
red,
and
we've
made
absolutely
no
progress
in
specifying
how
to
pay
for
the
bold
pension
policy.
When
we
approved
this
pension
policy
last
november
I
tried
to
nudge
the
city
council
to
adopt
a
way
to
fund
the
increased
costs,
and
specifically,
what
I
had
talked
about
and
had
been
talking
about
for
several
months,
was
a
public
utility
text
that
was
earmarked
for
public
pensions.
D
I
think
recently
the
discussion,
the
public
utility
tax
was
confused.
I
think
some
people
thought
we
were
talking
about
it
to
fund
new
positions
anyway,
but
the
public
utility
tax
would
have
paid
off
most
of
the
steep
increases
over
the
next
few
years
and
put
us
on
a
responsible
path
for
the
next
generation
at
the
time.
We
said
we
didn't
want
to
do
that
now,
but
we
would
do
it
during
the
budget
process.
D
And,
if
we're
going
to
have
a
bold
policy,
we've
got
to
identify
how
we're
going
to
pay
for
it.
Otherwise
we're
not
being
honest,
we're
not
being
responsible,
we're
kicking
the
can
down
to
future
councils
and
future
generations.
And,
frankly,
we
know
we're
cleaning
up
a
lot
of
mess
for
decades
in
the
past
and
at
some
point
I
think
we
need
to
step
up
to
the
plate
and
make
that
happen
without
a
means
to
pay
for
it.
D
D
The
second
thing
I
think
I
need
to
insist
upon
in
our
budget
is
that
we
add
the
three
firefighter
positions
that
were
requested
by
mr
kimberly
again,
and
I
hope
we
can
come
together,
just
as
we
did
after
the
solid
waste
situation
where
we
were
deadlocked
on
solid
waste,
and
I
said
okay,
let's
do
this
in
the
next
two
weeks.
Let's
begin
the
next
morning,
let's
begin
discussions
and
we
kind
of
ultimately
got
a
compromise,
not
one
that
we
necessarily
liked
or
wanted,
but
one
that
worked.
D
The
council,
in
our
system
of
checks
and
balances,
can
override
my
veto
with
the
super
with
the
super
majority
at
the
following
council
meeting.
Now,
to
my
knowledge,
the
mayoral
veto
has
never
been
used
in
bloomington,
but
I
can't
assign
I
can't
sign
a
budget
that
will
be
harmful
to
our
city.
If
I
believe
that's
the
case,
and
I
do
it's
employees,
our
citizens
and
future
generations,
so
I'm
hopeful
we
can
come
back
to
the
table,
find
an
agreement.
D
There
was
little
support
on
saturday
for
a
public
utility
tax,
at
least
in
the
abstract
I'll
make
for
the
case
for
it.
Briefly,
but
again
I
I
anything's
on
the
table,
as
I
believe
it's
our
best
options
for
a
lot
of
reasons
to
earmark
that
money
for
public
safety
pensions,
but
the
only
other
thing
that
I
would
ask
as
we
begin
to
meet,
is
we
check
our
rhetoric
at
the
door?
You
know
we
don't
need
to
say
we're.
You
know
we're
for
creative
cuts.
I
mean
who's,
not
for
creative
cuts.
D
At
this
point,
we
need
to
make
real
progress.
The
tires
hitting
the
pavement
and
our
budget
timetable
is,
you
know
time
clock
is
is
ticking
now.
Why
did
I
support
the
public
utility
tax
to
begin
with
and
frankly,
when
I
unveiled
it
and
explained
it
to
people
of
many
different
walks
of
life
by
many
different
radio
stations
92.9
on
one
end,
wglt
on
the
other
end
wjbc
people
in
many
different
environments,
when
I
said
we
have
a
public
utility
tax,
that's
half
the
level
of
normal.
D
All
of
other
taxes
are
at
the
same
level
and
so
are
all
of
the
communities
that
are
comparable
to
us
in
over
a
hundred
miles,
so
we're
not
at
any
competitive
disadvantage.
Decatur
springfield,
champaign,
urbana
peoria
as
well
as
normal,
and
so,
if
you
explain
it
that
way
now
that
anybody
likes
taxes,
I
mean
everybody
hates
taxes.
I
don't
want
to
pay
taxes
right,
but
there
are
some
times
where
we've
got
to
do
that
and
step
up
at
the
plate.
Our
general
fund
revenues
have
not
gone
up
in
five
years.
D
Everything
in
the
economy
costs
us
more
and
why
should
the
general
fund
revenues
in
bloomington?
Our
services
be
the
one
exception
and
we
know
it's
not
right.
There
really
aren't
any
free
lunches,
so
I
do
support
it
and
we
do
know
that
there
are
some
concerns
about
its
regressivity
and
actually
older
woman,
schmidt-
and
I
you
know,
have
talked
about
some
possibilities
apparently
and
talked
with
our
city
manager-
that
we
could
conceivably
have
a
little
box
on
our
water
bill
where
people
check
a
dollar
or
two
dollars
that
would
voluntarily
go
into
a
fund.
D
Just
like
you
do
on
your
nike
or
gas
bill,
where
you
can
help
some
people
who
are
on
fixed
incomes
to
get
through,
perhaps
winters
in
some
kind.
Some
situations-
or
perhaps
you
know,
summers
might
be
with
an
electric
bill.
So
there's
certainly
some
possibilities
created
possibilities
where
we
can
maybe
mitigate
some
of
the
the
negative
consequences
of
it.
But
I
think
we
have
to
focus
not
just
on
the
revenue,
revenue
and
expenditure
side
and
what
the
implications
are
going
to
be.
D
So
we
we
do
have
lots
of
options
in
front
of
us,
and
I
do
think
that,
especially
if
we
make
it
clear
to
the
public-
and
I
have
in
the
past-
I'm
starting
now
I'll
continue
to
do
it.
If
we
are
interested
in
that
option
that
this
is
not
a
increase
to
go
for
new
positions,
this
is
a
tax
for
on
public
utility
that
will
go
be
earmarked
by
ordinance
for
pensions
and
it
mostly
gets
us
the
way
on
the
pension
side
for
nearly
30
years.
D
D
D
D
We're
going
to
have
better
numbers,
we're
going
to
be
able
to
work
on
things,
like
maybe
saving
75
000
here
fifty
thousand
here
to
try
to
ease
some
of
the
pressures
over
the
next
year,
but
right
now
I
think
we've
got
obligations
and
I
have
to
say
ultimate
hour.
I
I
I
I
have
the
greatest
respect
for
you.
In
fact.
D
Not
only
do
I
think
you'd
have
a
good
soul,
but
if
I
were
in
a
foxhole
in
a
foreign
land,
I
want
you
next
to
me,
but
I
have
to
say
I
disagree
with
your
comment
to
the
city
manager
that
it's
up
to
the
city
manager
to
roll
up
his
sleeves.
I
think
it's
up
to
us
to
roll
up
our
sleeves.
D
We
are
supposed
to
be
the
brains
of
the
operation
and
the
city,
manager
and
staff
are
supposed
to
be
the
fingers.
We
wouldn't
say
to
our
fingers.
You
know.
Oh
hey,
go,
make
me
dinner.
I
don't
care
whether
there's
meat,
I
don't
care.
If
it's
chicken,
I
don't
care.
If
it's
chicken
cordon
blue,
I
don't
care
if
it's
just
lemon
meringue
pie
or
it's
just
carrots
go.
Make
me
dinner:
we
wouldn't
do
that.
We've
got
to
give
clear
directives
and
I
think
we
began
that
path.
D
But
we
didn't
finish
our
job
on
saturday
and
what
I
say
is
I
invite
the
council,
let's
finish
our
job,
let's
begin
tomorrow,
to
go
down
that
path,
because
I
really
believe
that
we
have
to
have
a
budget
that
truly
values,
public
safety
and
is
responsible,
and
so
that's
where
I'm
coming
from
I'm
sure
others
will
have
some
comments,
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
us
in
the
next
several
weeks
to
make
this
happen.
Thank
you
and
others
want
to.
I'm
sure
lots
of
people
will
want
to
speak.
D
I'm
going
to
go
from
my
left
to
right,
not
politically
necessarily
alderman
fruin
and
let's
just
keep
going.
C
Yeah
mayor,
thank
you
and
totally
independent
of
your
comments,
which
I
appreciate
I'll
share
this
email
with
everyone
tonight
when
I
get
home,
but
it's
simply
a
resident's
interest
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
the
amusement
tax
and
how
it
applies
and
who
it
applies
to
and
so
forth.
They
sent
it
to
rob,
and
I
and
I
think
the
reason
for
that
it's
clearly
outlined
in
the
email
is,
I
think
it's
a
resident.
C
It
is
a
resident
of
ward
9
and
a
business
owner
same
person,
business
owner
ward,
8,
but
I
think
it's
got
some
good
questions
about
how
it
applies,
and
so
maybe
when
I
send
it,
maybe
when
david
gets
it,
maybe
he
can
have
somebody
on
staff,
take
a
look
at
it
and
just
one
of
those
small
pieces
that
we
need
to
make
sure
we
understand
where
it
applies
and
who
it
applies
to
and
what
the
impact
is
so
kind
of
a
small
thing.
Listen!
Thank
you.
I'll
share
that
later.
D
Tonight,
thank
you.
Alderman
suzine.
C
Yeah
two
things:
the
first
one
is
the
concept
of
getting
the
console
package
in
pieces.
This
time
around.
We
got
the
council
package
one
day
and
then
later
we
got
something
from
luther
oaks
and
then
at
a
different
time
we
got
something
on
another
area.
The
bond
I
think
on
the
bond.
C
Anyway,
it
came
in
three
pieces
and
in
one
case
when
I
asked
the
question
they
said
well,
that
was
very
rare
that
we
were
trying
to
accommodate
luther
oaks.
I
need
to
accommodate
us
and
I
don't
want
to
not
accommodate
people
who
want
to
put
things
in
at
the
last
minute,
but
that
that's
got
to
stop.
So.
D
C
C
I'm
sorry
one
other
issue,
you
mentioned
being
honest
in
the
budget
session.
It
was
very
frustrating
for
me
at
the
budget
session.
I
I
think
if
we
take
the
four
million
dollars
that
we
put
in
for
roads,
streets
and
sewers
and
eliminate
it
just
because
we
voted
to
have
a
10
million
dollar
bond,
that
we
are
now
taking
4
million
out
of
that
bond
and
using
it
for
operating
expenses.
J
Black
and
thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
I'll,
make
some
comments
about
the
budget.
I'd
like
to
circle
back
to
comments
about
the
national
league
cities
after
we
vote.
I
think
we
all
have
some
comments
about
in
reaction
to
your
speech
when
it
comes
to
the
budget.
I
love
saturday
kind
of
confused
as
to
where
everybody
was
at
and
I
wanted
to.
J
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
do
and
as
I've
tried
to
do
over
the
last
now
nine
months,
ten
months
at
this
point
has
been
to
be
clear
and
after
I
left
the
the
budget
session,
I
thought
that
we
were
more
or
less
clear,
but
then
karen
has
sent
an
email
later
that
night.
Regarding
the
chief's
comments
and
presentation-
and
I
would
encourage
everyone
to
go
online
and
check
out
the
youtube
video
of
the
entire
budget
session
and
I'll
still
go
back
to
that
in
a
minute.
J
But
what
really
struck
me
is
that
when
people
call
for
service
for
anything
that
we
do,
whether
it
be
fire
police
public
works,
people
have
an
expectation
of
a
high-performing,
well-trained
employee.
That's
ready
to
go
equipped,
do
the
job
that
they're
expected
to
do
and
that
costs
money
and
that
costs
training
that
costs
time.
That
costs
that's
a
commitment
that
we're
making
to
our
citizens,
and
I
think
that
that's
not
unreasonable
that
they
expect
that.
J
So
when
the
city
manager
comes
to
us
and
asks
for
personnel
or
training
or
additional
staff
to
to
fill
those
gaps,
I
think
it
is
incumbent
upon
us
to
take
that
request
very
seriously,
and
I
also
think
it's
incumbent
upon
us
to
be
very
clear
about
if
we
want
to
see
those
additional
resources
placed
and
we
don't
want
to
raise
taxes.
J
We
can
save
money
there,
but
we've
come
to
a
point
at
a
crossroads
where
we
might
find
ourselves
not
able
to
deliver
the
quality
of
service
that
our
citizens
are
expecting,
and
I
don't
want
to
see
us
get
into
a
position
where
we
have
nickeled
and
dimed
everything
where
the
citizens
aren't
getting
the
service
and
then
there's
an
outrage
saying
we
need
more,
we
need
more
more
and
then
we're
talking.
Then
we
are
asked
as
a
council
to
provide
a
giant
leap
in
and
funding
mechanisms
for
that.
J
So
if
we
need
to
create
new
revenue
to
provide
the
services
that
the
citizens
are
expecting,
we
should
do
that.
It's
incumbent
upon
us
to
do
that
after
I
left
the
meeting.
I
took
a
number
of
phone
calls
from
people
as
I
expected
to
why
I
took
one
from
this
person
and
they
were
okay,
that
I
shared
the
story.
J
I
did
ask
them
for
it,
and
they're
very
upset
about
the
idea
of
taxes
and
very,
very
angry
about
it,
and
I
kind
of
walked
them
through
how
we
got
to
this
point,
and
I
encourage
them
to
check
out
the
youtube
clip
of
the
the
entire
council
session.
Now
I
don't
think
they
watched
the
entire
six
hours
and
10
minutes
of
it,
but
they
watched
the
highlights
of
it
and
they
ended
up
coming
back
and
and
seeing
it
more
from
our
perspective.
J
Now
we
don't
necessarily
agree
on
where
the
revenue
can
come
from
they're
of
the
opinion
that
cuts
can
be
more
are
appropriate,
but
at
least
there's
an
understanding
that
we
are
making
an
effort
to
to
reach
that
communication
bridge.
So
I'm
all
for
making
sure
that
we
have
all
options
on
the
table.
But
what
does
that
mean
I'd
like
to
see
the
fire
positions
restored?
I
think
that's
that's
critical.
J
I
think
that
we
I
I
would
not
want
to
be
in
a
situation
where
somebody
has
an
issue
and
they
call
for
service
and
we
can't
provide
it.
I
want
to
see
whatever
we
can
do
to
make
sure
we
fund
those
pensions,
ideally
a
dedicated
revenue
stream.
When
I
ran
for
this
office,
people
ask
me:
what
are
you
going
to
do
about
pensions?
Here's
our
opportunity
to
do
it.
I
don't
want
to
be
rolling
back
any
of
my
promises
that
I've
made.
J
B
Thank
you
mayor
for
taking
such
a
forthright
stand
on
this
and
getting
us
refocused
on
the
job
at
hand.
I
want
to
take
just
a
moment
to
reflect
on
saturday,
as
scott
has,
and
I
think
I
went
away
feeling
very
discouraged.
B
I
think
a
lot
of
this
has
to
do
with
education
and
with
you
know
what
I've
said
to
you
mayor
that
nine
out
of
10
people
have
said
to
me
both
from
main
street
and
from
you
know,
just
joe
citizen,
that
utility
tax
hits
the
people
who
are
least
able
to
pay
for
it.
It
goes
after
money
for
things
that
people
can't
avoid
they.
You
know
people
use
water,
people
use
electricity.
B
B
So
if
we
don't
do
this,
then
what
and
you
know
you've
you've
talked
about
public
safety
and
you've
talked
about
our
commitment
to
a
very
robust
pension
funding
plan,
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
help
people
understand
that
if,
if
we
don't
do
a
utility
tax
or
we
don't
find
some
other
way
to
address
this,
then
the
consequences
are
significant
to
us
and
I
don't
think
we've
really
taken
the
time
to
do
that
and
that's
something
that
I
think
we
need
to
do
so
absolutely
having
those
community
conversations
in
the
short
time
that
we
have
left
to
us
is
very,
very
important,
and-
and
you
know
I
I
want
to
be
able
to
go
back
out
to
the
people
that
I've
sent
all
my
emails
to
and
say
you
know.
B
D
Just
fyi,
I
think
tomorrow
morning,
I'm
on
cities
92.9
and
I'm
on
wjbc
and
glt.
So
I'll
begin
that
you
know
in
the
broader
sense
too,
in
in
a
broader
sense
making
you
know
the
case,
one
thing,
for
example,
I
had
a
gentleman
stop
me
this
morning
in
in
the
gym
and
said
you
know.
Basically,
he
said
you.
A
D
Just
just
don't
raise
my
taxes
and
I
said
well,
okay,
you
know,
I
understand
that,
and
what
do
you
want
us
to
cut?
And
you
know
we
don't
have
too
many
firefighters?
We
don't
have
too
many
cops
and
we
don't
have
too
many
public
service
workers
and
he
said
no,
no,
those
are
all
good
and
he
talks.
Sorry,
john,
don't
hold
your
chest,
he
said
well
parks
and
rec.
I
said
well,
you
realize
if
we
eliminated
all
of
parks
and
rec
just
eliminated
everything.
Okay,
that'll
nobody's
gonna
come
here.
D
You
know,
it'll,
destroy
all
kinds
of
things
in
terms
of
our
quality
of
life,
but
that
costs
us
seven
million
dollars
right,
it's
14
million
and
they
you
guys
bring
in
roughly
about
half
of
your
revenue.
So
that's
not
even
going
to
cover
our
our
structural
deficit.
D
L
Well,
let
me
get
this
clear:
everybody
around
us
has
this
utility
tax.
Is
that
correct.
D
A
D
Earmarked
for
pensions
that
solves
you
know
some
of
our
most
of
our
pension
problems
at
least
puts
us
with
the
striking
distance.
I
think
it's
pretty
safe
to
say
for
30
years.
L
Okay,
okay,
well,
and-
and
these
are
the
only
taxes
that
we
get.
D
From
here
well,
no,
you
could.
We
could
raise
property
taxes,
usually,
actually,
I
think,
I
think,
one
of
the
reasons
why
people
have
go,
why
all
the
communities
you
know
within
over
100
miles
of
us
that
are
comparable
to
us,
have
gone
up.
That
path.
Is
they
they
wanted
to
stay
away
from
property
taxes
and
actually
we're
also
one
of
the
least
reliant
on
property
taxes.
It's
hard
to
find
a
city
that
only
has
14
cents
on
the
dollar
from
property
taxes.
I
think
it's
also.
D
There
are
a
variety
of
reasons
now
they
I
don't
know
that
anybody
else
is
in
market
for
pensions.
I
think
that's
the
only
reason
why
we
would
do
it
and
why
it
might
be
acceptable
to
some,
and
obviously
you
know
to
not
others
and
normal.
I
mean
one
things
I
also
pointed
out
about:
in
normal,
normal
has
doubled
the
debt
load
that
we
have
and
they've
got
a
aaa
bond
rating.
It's
because
historically,
normal
knows
how
to
pay
their
bills
and
manage
their
finances.
D
Now
we
don't
like
everything
that
they've
done,
but
the
bond
rating
agencies
trust
them.
They
don't
trust
us.
I
don't
mean
us
personally
but
bloomington
over
time,
and
and
that's
our
biggest
obstacle
is
decisive
action
to
having
a
triple
a
bond
rating,
not
not
our
debt
level.
D
You
could
bring
property
taxes
to
the
table.
You
could
what
sales
taxes
could
be
earmarked.
I
mean
the
variety
of
things
that
could
be
earmarked
as
a
dedicated
fund
stream.
Otherwise,
in
a
sense
you
know
it
leaves
it
up
to
all
and
future
councils
to
decide
whether
or
not
they
want
to
fund
that
pension
policy.
If
they
don't.
If
there's
not
a
dedicated
fund
stream.
L
M
You
well
first,
I
want
to
congratulate
you
on
your.
You
know
firm
stand
on
possibly
vetoing
the
budget.
I
actually
did
that
two
years
in
a
row,
I
voted
no
and
I
put
out
a
press
release
and
a
paper
and
I'd
love
to
just
bring
it
in
right
now,
because
what
what
it
says
is
exactly
this.
This
is
where
we're
going
for
sure
it's
unsustainable.
M
We
can't
we
can't
ever
catch
up
if
we
keep
passing
what
I
called
and
what
I
will
call
a
status
quo
budget
and
excuse
me,
I
want
to
come
out
like
the
rest
of
us
do,
for
public
safety.
I
think
we
every
single
one
of
us
stands
with
public
safety,
understands
the
ramifications
and
considers
it
an
absolute
core
service,
but
I
have
to
catch
my
breath
here
to
to
say
that
utility
taxes,
you
know,
apparently,
is
the
only
way.
I
don't
accept
that
and
well.
It
seems
to
be
the.
D
M
M
The
sales
tax-
and
we
can-
we
can
raise
every
tax.
We
can
raise
every
tax
from
the
books
as
much
as
we
want
and
keep
doing
it
and,
frankly,
I
think
we
have
done
it
and
the
management
letter
of
last
year's
cafe
talks
about
very
dramatic
increases
in
our
services,
our
fees,
our
taxes.
They
also
talk
about
the
fact
that,
outside
of
metro
chicago,
we
are
probably
the
most
expensive
city
to
live
in
outside
of
metro
chicago
those.
M
Those
statistics
are
all
out
there
and
and
here's
here's
the
thing
if
we
raise
utility
taxes,
if
if
we
create
another
four
or
five
million
in
revenue
and
continue
with
the
trend
in
our
general
fund,
which
has
gone
up,
I
believe
what
was
the
percentage
this
year-
I
I
don't
know
eight
or
nine
percent,
something
like
that,
a
pretty
dramatic.
If
we
continue
spending,
we
are
every
year,
our
general
fund,
our
city,
our
population
is
not
growing
as
much
because
it
has
flattened
out.
Yes,
we
had
a
huge
spur
in
the
90s.
M
The
early
2000s
population
is
totally
flattened
that
the
general
fund
is
continuing
to
rise,
and
I
think
I'm
going
to
wrap
this
up
by
just
saying.
Yes,
I,
by
all
means,
I
think
we
should
ask
our
citizens
and
I
think,
we're
going
to
hear
from
them.
There
are
core
citizens
that
a
city
provides.
We
all
know
what
they
are:
water
refuse
streets,
public
safety,
maybe
even
first
more
than
anything
else,
none
of
us
if
we
can't
continue
living
or
if
we're
attacked
by
criminals.
We
can't
we
can't
live
here,
but
water
public
safety.
M
We
all
know
that.
Are
there
other
things
in
the
city,
absolutely
lots
of
other
things,
and
when
we
came
in
on
saturday
I
pointed
out-
and
you
know,
and
got
a
lot
of
pushback,
which
I
expected
I
held
up
the
newspaper
article.
That
said,
our
intention
was
to
have
two
assistant
city
managers,
all
kinds
of
administrative
changes,
in
fact
millions
of
dollars
in
new
administrative
hires.
That
was
our
intention
and
that's
what
really
confuses
me,
because
it's
in
my
view,
in
just
just
my
view,
it's
the
exact
wrong
direction.
M
M
If
I,
if
I
believe
that
taxing
our
way
out
of
this
would
even
help
us
in
the
future,
our
pension
payments
are
going
to
double
in
about
six
years
and
all
the
utility
taxes
in
the
world
right
now
are
not
going
to
fix
that,
and
it's
not
going
to
be
sustainable,
no
matter
what
we
tax
we
in
the
city
of
bloomington.
This
is
my
view.
I
appreciate
everyone's
understanding.
It's
just
my
view.
M
We
have
a
spending
problem
and
we
better
get
a
hold
of
it,
because
all
the
taxes
in
the
world
are
not
going
to
fix
it
and
and
in
five
years,
we'll
be
right
back.
If
we
don't
address
the
spending
spree
that
the
city
of
bloomington
normal
does
have
a
triple
a,
it
doesn't
have
a
coliseum,
all
fairness,
it
didn't
leave
metcon
normal
made
a
lot
of
very
good
decisions
and
we
we've
made
other
decisions
and
we
are
where
we
are,
so
we
better
fix
our
spending
problem.
That's
just
my
view.
Thank
you.
D
Okay,
thank
you
ultimate
sage.
C
Two
comments
and
maybe
a
question:
there
was
some
statement
made
about
the
the
luther
oaks
and
the
console
packet
being
part
of
the
console
packet
and-
and
it
simply
was
not
that
was
driven
by
the
residents
of
luther
oaks.
They
were
communicating
some
again
their
continued
hopes
and
aspirations.
C
C
Secondly,
in
terms
of
the
budget
meeting
david,
let
me
ask:
what
would
would
you
like
specific
line
item
feedback
from
from
the
alderman
on
on
things
to
be
cut?
Would
you
rather
see
it
at
the
program
level?
C
E
Well,
let
me
first
say
that,
and
I
think
it's
been
said
before
it's,
this
council
puts
a
high
priority
on
public
safety,
puts
a
high
priority
on
streets,
you
know,
and
and
many
other
things,
but
and
that
there's
this
desire
to
prioritize
at
some
point
in
time.
I
I
would
what
would
be
most
helpful.
I
think,
for
everyone
is
if
the
council
were
to
identify
what
are
those
least
supportive
programs
or
services
that
you
would
propose
to
eliminate,
not
line
items
because
you
get
in
the
set
minutia
right.
E
You
know
we
really
need
to
look
at
programs
and
service
categories,
because
our
our
staff
just
cannot
keep
up
even
with
the
status
quo
and
that's
you
know-
and
we
just
saw
tonight
some
of
the
response
times
again,
how
we're
not
even
meeting
the
national
standard
on
90
and
even
the
three
firefighters
isn't
going
to
change
that,
but
it's
it's
dealing
with
the
overburden
overworked
so
much
over
time.
E
You
know
of
the
firefighters,
but
let
me
also
just
reiterate,
as
the
council
requests,
that
I'm
working
with
the
directors
we
are
going
to
come
back
to
you
with
my
recommendation
for
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
of
cuts,
it'll
be
focus
on
programs
on
services
or
whatever
we
can
do.
E
We
were
even
talking
about
fees
and
other
things
too,
but
I'll
be
bringing
that
back
to
you
as
soon
as
we
prepare
that,
hopefully
that
will
you
know,
provide
some
further
points
for
discussion,
but
it's
so
I
I
hope
that
that
helps
answer
your
question.
C
Because
I'm
willing
to
I'm
willing
to
to
identify
specific
programs,
is
it
your
suggestion
that
that
we
wait
to
hear
those
recommendations
coming
back
from
you
before
we
kind
of
make?
Take
the
next
step
in
this
conversation.
E
E
You
can
say
you're
opposed
to
maybe
raising
taxes
and
fees,
and
it
is
it's
very
difficult.
But
what
would
you
cut
in
the
budget?
And
I
think
the
more
you
can
you
know
be
specific
on
programs
and
services
the
better.
We
have
two
budget
documents
that
are
very
specific
on
the
programs,
the
services
that
are
out
there
and
what
the
city
is
currently
providing,
which
I
believe
is
integral
to
have
the
quality
of
life
we
have
here
in
the
city
of
bloomington.
E
I
fear
that
we
start
getting
into
cutting
or
having
the
gut
too
many
programs,
even
parks,
recreation,
cultural
arts,
I'll
be
the
first
to
say
from
an
economic
development,
a
business
retention,
business
attraction
ceos
want
to
look
for
what
do
we
want
to
offer
in
quality
of
life?
It
is
not
a
foreign,
you
know,
it
is
not
the
type
of
term
that
I
think
we
want
to
diminish
the
importance
of
many
of
these
other
services
we
provide
in
this
community,
and
but
it's
you
know,
I
think
we've
got
a
lot
of
great
programs.
E
It's
taken
a
lot
of
years,
but
we
really
cut
back
on
staff
back
in
2009,
over
70
full-time
positions
and,
as
I
said
before,
our
employees
are
struggling.
I
mean
the
the
morale
even
right
now
this
morning,
employees
are
coming
in
wondering
if
their
jobs
are
secure.
Do
they
need
to
start
looking
if
the
council's
looking
for
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
cuts,
morale
is
tanked
again
because
there's
a
lot
of
concern
about.
E
C
Well,
I
will
repeat
something:
I've
said
up
here
now,
for
I
think,
the
better
part
of
four
years
during
the
budget
conversation,
and
that
is,
I
am
willing
to
make
make
those
decisions
on
on
service
cuts.
C
C
I
remember
the
mayor
and
and
and
and
others
you
know
there,
the
phrase
that
year
was
draconian
cuts,
you
know,
and
but
there
again
I
never
had
the
opportunity
to
give
specific
feedback
on
on
what
programs
or
what
services.
C
So
I've
been
prepared
all
along
to
take
some
services
and-
and
you
know
off
off
the
the
city's
table
and
and
by
extension
I
think,
lessened
some
of
the
the
demands
placed
on
our
employees
and
and
quite
honestly,
I
look
forward
to
that
opportunity
to
being
able
to
look
at
some
of
those
services
and,
as
I
said
saturday
have
a
have,
I
think,
a
very
quick
conversation
with
people
in
my
ward
about
those,
but
but
until
until
I
I
I
have
some
some
something
to
react
to
some
context
of
cuts
it.
D
M
D
C
Budget,
absolutely
that's
good
and
and
sure
I'll
be
glad
I'll
be
glad
to
kind
of
expand
on
some.
You
know
some
part
of
my
conversation
on
saturday
I'll
give
you
some
programs,
you
know
and
and
some
some
decreased
subsidiations
of
some
of
the
other.
You
know
programs
that
that
we
have
not
public
safety.
Not
you
know
infrastructure,
not
public
works,
but
I
think
in
some
of
those
other
areas
where
I
think
they're
more
about
quality
of
life.
D
C
K
Thank
you.
Where
do
I
begin
so
saturday
I
mean
the
the
budget
meeting
was
was
very
interesting.
K
I
guess
I
I
did
not
walk
away
from
it
feeling
as
negative
as
others
might
have,
because
I
have
a
tendency
to
be
hopeful
and
I
I
hope
that
the
the
the
staff
as
well,
you
know
take
it
from
me
that
the
staff
remains
positive.
The
way
I
I
took
it
is
well.
We
have
something
challenging
to
deal
with
some
things
that
are
challenging
to
deal
with
and
we
you
know
it
may
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
work
itself
out.
K
That's
why
I
referenced
a
solid
waste
discussion
and
I
thought
eventually
we
all
came
around
to
something
together,
so
I
remained
hopeful
it's
you
know.
I
don't
think
now
is
the
time
to
be
looking
for
jobs.
You
know,
let's
see
what
we
can
do.
I
I
do
think
that,
with
you
know,
the
staffs
presentations,
especially
john's
presentation
on
some
of
the
quality
of
life
venues
that
we
have
were
pretty
interesting
because
they,
it
helped
me
understand
the
economic
impact
of
some
of
those
some
of
those
venues.
K
So
I
I
think
I
at
this
point
my
I
I'm
looking
more
to
see
what
those
cuts
will
be.
You
know
what
those
cuts
might
be
because
so
far
as
far
as
I
know,
what
people
have
heard
and
have
seen
in
the
headlines
is
that
one,
the
city
is
looking
to
add
staff
and
then
two
that
the
city
is
looking
to
increase
taxes.
K
K
We
just
need
to
cut
spending
or
you
know
we
don't
need
the
coliseum
or
we
don't
need
the
bcpa
or
we
don't
need
the
golf
courses,
but
I
think
alderman
fizzini,
you
know,
did
talk
about.
You
know
what
it
would
take
to
sell
it
to
sell
a
golf
course
and
it
it's
not.
That
obvious.
You
know
a
lot
of
those
solutions
are
not
that
obvious.
K
So
I
really
would
want
to
understand
what
the
impact
would
be
and
I
don't
think
we
can
do
that
within
a
month
it
takes
a
while
to
shut
down
an
operation.
I
I
think
or
a
program,
and
I
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
more
conversation
on
that
one
other
thing
and,
as
you
see
the
mayor
trying
to
shut
me
down
here,
one
other
thing:
oh
no,
he
was
sneezing.
Okay,
one
other
thing
that
I
I
would
say
is
about
pension
funding.
That's
something
that
we
heard
very
clearly.
K
During
the
campaign
there
were
a
number
of
people
who
who
said
that
we
we
needed
to
take
care
of
our
responsibility.
So
sometimes,
when
you
say
you
need
to
take
care
of
our
responsibility.
K
N
N
Yeah,
I
appreciate
your
comment.
You're,
certainly
welcoming
my
foxhole
anytime,
a
matter
of
fact.
If
we
continue-
and
this
is
serious
if
we
continue
to
follow
the
lead
of
our
state
and
federal
government
with
our
spending
issues,
you
likely
may
end
up
in
my
foxhole
sir,
so
you're
welcome.
Where
do
I
start?
I
you
know
number
one.
I
think
we
I
think
mr
fazzini
is
probably
right.
N
We
probably
need
a
separate
street
and
sewer
fund
for
that
bond
issue,
and-
and
you
know
I-
I
need
more
asylum
promise
that
that
four
million
dollars
is
going
to
end
up
in
next
year's
budget
on
top
of
what
we
would
normally
spend
okay
before,
I
would
vote
for
it
because
I
didn't
vote
for
that
bond
with
any
intention
of
it
covering
operational
expenses.
That's
that's
just
that's
just
out
on
the
on
the
edge
there.
Yes,
sir,
we
are
giving
up
a
competitive
advantage.
N
As
a
matter
of
fact,
we
have
some
of
the
highest
tax
levies
in
in
the
entire
country
and
that's
why
we're
seeing
folks
leaving
illinois
and
actually
they're
going
to
be
leading
bloomington.
We
have
been
very
sheltered.
Okay
up
through
this
recession,
and
I
think,
we're
starting
to
see
a
little
wave
of
what
might
happen.
One
of
our
major
employers
and
and
even
our
universities
are
starting
to
feel
some
of
that
and
and
on
a
local
level.
N
I
think
we
better
pull
out
the
emergency
checklist
and
figure
out
what
we're
gonna
do
here
and,
and
one
of
those
things
might
be
to
raise
a
little
tax.
Okay,
I
understand
that.
But
again
we
can't
spend
our
way
out
of
out
of
trouble
here,
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
some
major
league
cuts
and
how
much
is
really
important.
Certainly,
funding
our
pensions
funding.
Our
our
public
safety
has
got
to
be
paramount:
okay,
along
with
the
basics,
in
terms
of
water,
solid
waste,
etc.
N
All
those
things
that
that
really
by
law,
we
have
to
provide
okay,
but
there's
a
number
of
things
that
we're
providing
kind
of
cadillac
service.
Okay,
that
a
lot
of
other
communities
don't
actually
pay
for.
There's
a
lot
of
ways
that
if
we
as
citizens
as
the
community
and
we
as
leaders,
will
step
up
and
say
folks,
you
want
to
continue
the
bcpa.
You
want
to
continue
the
coliseum.
N
You
want
to
continue
these
great
programs
that
we've
got
you're
going
to
have
to
put
some
skin
in
the
game
too,
and
so
we're
going
to
have
to
ask
for
volunteer
services
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
exactly
what
those
folks
have
absolutely
have
to
have
not
necessarily
to
expand,
but
to
maintain
some
level
of
of
semblance
of
service.
Okay
and
and
look
at
number
one.
Let's
book,
you
know
only
venues
that
are
going
to
make
money
or
or
that
we
believe
will
make
money.
N
Let's
not,
let's
not
book,
something,
that's
gonna,
you
know
obviously
lose
money.
We've
got
to
have
some
responsibility
in
what
we're
doing
here,
certainly
david.
Yes,
you
and
I
sat
here
and
scratched
on
the
back
of
the
envelope
and
I
have
to
hand
it
to
you.
I
think
you
did
a
great
job
with
the
numbers
that
we
have
and
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
get
at
with
our
our
city
manager.
Certainly
he
has
his
finger
on
the
pulse.
We
have
what
what
are
in
those
books
and
it's
it's
high
level.
N
It's
it's
big
programs,
I'm
not
sure
we
want
to
cut
to
the
bone
on
every
one
of
those
programs,
but
certainly
there's
a
place
in
a
time
for
everything
and-
and
I
believe
that
there's
probably
a
certain
percentage
that
we
will
have
to
cut
okay,
I
don't
know
we
counted
up
a
little
over
11
million
dollars
and
if
you
just
look
at
a
small
percentage
of
that,
we
could
certainly
come
up
with
a
couple
million
pretty
easily.
I
would
think
well
we're
happy
to
have
a
future.
N
Have
my
sleeves
rolled
up,
I
will
okay,
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
very
very
concerned
about
is
the
negative
impact
on
our
business
community,
as
well
as
the
folks
that
are
on
the
cutting
edge
of
being
able
to
continue
to
make
citizenship
mean
something
here
in
bloomington
and
and
I
I
have
a
number
of
constituents
that
are
right
there,
fixed
incomes
and
others.
N
I've
got
young
couples
with
with
one
breadwinner,
not
really
making
you
know
the
income
anymore,
and
maybe
the
wife
is,
is
keeping
things
together
and
they've
lost
the
home
they're
in
an
apartment,
et
cetera.
I
mean
we
have
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
in
pain
right
now,
and-
and
we
got
to
be
cognizant
of
that-
I'm
not
in
favor
of
motor
fuel
tax
and
I've
got
some
some
documentation.
I
hope
everybody
reads
I'll
email
it
to
you.
I've
also
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
pass
it
around.
So
I
want
you
to.
N
I
want
you
to
take
a
look
at
it.
Having
been
in
the
been
in
the
petroleum
business
and
work
for
a
company
that
was
in
a
patrolling
business.
It
is,
it
is
not
a
high
revenue
stream
and,
and
when
you
put
that
extra
stressor
on
those
companies,
I'm
not
sure
that
they
can,
they
can
maintain
it
again
I'll,
be
you
can
hand
some
of
these.
I
didn't.
I
didn't
copy
enough
for
everybody.
N
N
Q
N
Mayor
at
some
point,
we're
going
to
have
to
accept
that
certainly,
certainly
I
want
to
spend
some
time
and
and
work
this
thing
out.
Okay,
thank
you
all
right.
D
Well,
I
think
that's
it.
Thank
you
very
much
and
let's
see,
I
think
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn.
Second.
Second,
all
in
favor
signify
saying
aye,
aye,
okay,
those
opposed
can
stay.
Thank
you.