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April 7, 2014 - City Council Special Meeting
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A
A
B
D
E
B
Here,
thank
you.
We
are
going
to
begin
with
a
public
discussion
of
the
pepsi
eye
center
parking
garage
repairs.
We
will
journey
into
closed
session
for
some
very
narrow
and
specific
pieces
of
that,
but
essentially
I
think
most
of
us
know
why
we're
here
for
this,
and
that
is
barely
seven
years
after
the
construction
of
this
facility,
we
began
to
have
some
serious
potential
problems,
so
it
certainly
is
important
for
us
to
know
that
we
are
on
top
of
this
and
we're
going
to
do
we're
going
to
do
absolutely
everything
necessary
to
make
taxpayers
whole.
B
F
F
Tonight
mr
meter
is
going
to
share
with
the
council
some
of
what
we
believe
we
found,
but
also
what
could
be
some
of
the
repairs
and
not
only
for
the
council,
but
the
community
talk
about
what
we
can
share
with
you
at
this
point
in
time
and
as
the
mayor
said,
we
will
go
into
closed
session
to
get
into
other
specific
issues
that
are
appropriate
under
closed
session
when
and
greg
will
go
ahead
and
introduce
kyle
stanish
at
the
appropriate
time.
I
do
want
to
say
before
we
finish
the
presentation.
F
G
G
G
The
latent
defects
just
revealed
themselves
last
fall.
The
unique
thing
about
this
parking
garage
is
that
it's
a
pre-cast,
concrete
structure,
meaning
that
it
was
manufactured
off-site
by
a
precast
contractor
component
panels
and
beams
were
manufactured
off-site
and
they
were
brought
into
the
city
of
bloomington
to
assemble
and
erect
into
this
three-story
parking
garage.
G
G
There
are
three
types
of
cracks
at
the
pepsi
ice
center.
There
are
beams
that
you
see
running
across
the
parking
ramps
and
parking
decks
that
support
the
floor
above
them
in
about
the
center
of
those
beams
and
they're
called
double
t's,
because
if
you
look
at
them
at
a
cross
section
level,
they
look
like
a
t.
G
G
The
second
type
of
crack
that
has
been
observed
is
a
v-shaped
crack
that
the
technical
term
for
them
is
they're
at
the
spandrel
panels.
But
what
that
really
means
is
that
you
walk
to
the
window
and
a
parking
garage
level.
You
look
out
over
the
little
concrete
wall.
That's
the
spandrel
panel
that
concrete
wall
they're
also
called
parapet
walls
and
there's
a
v-shaped
crack.
G
So
we
were
retained
for
a
number
of
purposes.
One
of
those
purposes
was
to
conduct
a
forensic
analysis
of
the
parking
garage
to
find
out
what
the
cause
of
the
cracking
is
and
what
the
scope
of
repair
would
be.
For
that
cracking,
we
engaged
a
engineering,
firm
walker
restoration,
which
is
a
preeminent
engineering,
firm
that
specializes
in
parking
structures.
G
They
have
two
companies,
walker,
parking
and
walker
restoration.
I
have
with
me
today
kyle
stanish,
who
is
a
structural
engineer
from
walker
restoration.
He
has
a
phd
in
engineering
and
he
specializes
in
parking
structures.
Nice
thing
to
know
about
walker
restoration
is
that
this
is
a
relatively
small
garage
that
they
would
deal
with,
because
it's
only
276
spaces.
G
G
They
have
conducted
a
analysis
of
the
cracking
those
three
types
of
crackings
in
the
double
t's:
the
beans
in
the
in
the
spandrel
panels,
those
walls,
the
v-shaped
ones
and
the
hairline
cracking
of
the
columns,
and
it
has
been
determined
that,
with
respect
to
the
the
beams
in
the
garage,
those
beams
are
reinforced
with
steel
tendons
and
it's
it's
much
like
rebar
that
runs
through
these
steel
beams.
They're
there
for
structural
support
and
added
strength.
G
G
These
are
preliminary
findings,
but
we're
quite
confident
based
on
the
documentation
that
we've
seen
that
this
will
be
repetitive
throughout
all
the
beams
in
the
building.
The
net
loss
from
only
a
point,
one
difference
in
the
size
of
the
diameter
is
that
there's
only
about
70
percent
of
the
steel
in
those
beams
that
that
should
be
there.
So
we're
30
deficient
in
steel
support
for
those
beams.
G
There
are
also
some
steel
changes
and
deficiencies
in
the
concrete
walls,
those
parapet,
walls,
the
spandrel
panels-
and
there
are
some
proposed
fixes
for
those
as
well.
Those
are
not
as
as
critical,
perhaps
in
terms
of
cost
or
or
the
manner
in
which
they
would
be
repaired.
It's
not
as
extensive
as
repairing
the
beams,
but
those
can
be
repaired
and
we'll
have
a
powerpoint
presentation
from
kyle
stanish
on
what
the
repairs
would
look
like
to
each
of
these
three
types
of
cracks.
G
The
third
type
of
crack
is,
is
also
easily
repaired
for
relatively
less
sum
of
money
and
with
painting
both
the
v-shaped
cracks
and
the
hairline
cracks
in
the
columns.
You
basically
wouldn't
know
the
repair
was
being
made.
There
will
be
some
changes
in
how
the
inside
of
the
garage
looks
with
respect
to
the
beams.
G
We
do
anticipate
filing
mediation
and
arbitration
demands
against
responsible
design,
professionals
and
responsible
contractors,
for
what
we
believe
is
is
their
responsibility
to
pay
for
the
repair
also
point
out
that
the
periscope
that
kyle
will
talk
to
is
designed
so
that
the
garage
can
still
add
the
two
parking
levels.
Should
the
city
decide
at
some
future
point
to
expand
the
parking
at
this
location
to
include
five
decks
instead
of
just
three.
A
G
G
I
have
30
years
of
experience
in
the
construction
industry
from
front
end
to
contracting
work
through
claims
procedures,
and
it
is
my
goal
here
to
get
the
city
through
a
process
that
focuses
on
the
present
needs
of
the
parking
structure
and
the
future
needs
of
the
city.
With
respect
to
that
parking
structure
in
an
economical
and
cost
effective
manner
and
through
a
creative
solution
engaging
all
the
parties
to
come
in
do
a
peer
review
of
what
we've
discovered
so
that
they
have
if
they
have
better
alternatives
to
how
that
be
repaired.
G
G
G
A
D
A
G
Exactly
that's
an
excellent
point.
I
mean
first
of
all,
this
is
manufactured
off-site
at
a
remote
location
by
a
company
that
specializes
in
precast
panels,
according
to
various
design
requirements
and
specifications
and
in
accordance
with
shop
drawings
that
they
would
have
prepared
you
contracted
for
and
purchased
the
expertise
of,
architects,
engineers
and
contractors
to
do
the
things
that
you
don't
do,
and
so
there
was
no
way
that
the
city
could
have
caught
an
off-site
latent
defect
in
the
number
of
tendons
in
those
precast
beams,
and
they
only
manifested
themselves.
H
I'm
not
an
engineer,
so
I
kind
of
walk
me
through
when
you're
saying
that
we're
looking
at
at
this
point
and
ultimate
vizini
pointed
this
out,
but
about
a
year
or
so,
and
I'm
assuming
that
really
means
more
like
close
to
a
year
and
a
half
to
probably
two
years
before
we're
open.
How
did
it
take
this
long
for
us
to
find
these
problems
and
the
severity
of
them.
G
Well,
the
the
initial
discovery
of
them
occurred
through
a
facilities,
inspection
by
faithful
and
gould,
and
I
believe
they
report
was
an
october
report
with
respect
to
just
the
cracks
in
the
tendons.
So
that
was
the
first
time
that
the
cracks
were
identified
as
a
potential
problem
at
the
garage.
Then
we
were
engaged
and
the
forensic
analysis
took
place
pretty
much
in
late
december
and
in
january.
H
G
I
don't
think
that
the
passage
of
time
on
this
defect
is
a
problem,
because
a
latent
defect
by
its
definition
is
not
a
patent
defect.
It's
not
something
that
a
reasonable
inspection
could
have
discovered.
I
think
that's
the
case
here.
A
reasonable
inspection
could
not
have
been
discovered
this
until
the
cracking
occurred.
Okay,
thank.
I
G
I
don't
believe
so
I'll.
Let
kyle
standish
address
that
question
more
detail.
I
can
tell
you
that
ground
penetrating
radar
was
utilized
to
identify
the
as
built
conditions
at
the
garage
and
to
compare
the
as
built
conditions
at
the
garage
to
the
design
parameters
that
were
specified
by
the
architect
and
other
parties,
and
so
we
looked
inside
these
panels
to
see
what
was
actually
constructed
in
vis-a-vis
the
design
and
that's
how
the
determination
was
made
with
respect
to
the
likely
cause,
the
probable
cause
of
the
defects.
J
What
we
did
when
we
did
our
assessment,
we
did
ground
penetrating
radar
to
locate
the
supplication
of
the
steel.
We
did
took
some
chlorine
to
do
strength,
tests
of
the
concrete
that's
out
there.
We
did
some
pull-off
tests
to
look
at
the
there's,
a
concrete
topping
on
them,
and
we
did.
That
is
your
test.
Is
your
question
about
what
we
were
doing?
What
we
did
during
our
assessment?
Yes,
okay,
then
that's
that's
what
we
did
during
our
assessment.
K
G
We
would
make
repairs
so
that
the
city
could
achieve
its
original
benefit
of
being
able
to
expand
parking
and
add
two
more
decks
and
what
actually
gets
added
is
the
30
steel
gets
added
and
you'll
see
some
slides
on
this
to
the
exterior
of
the
beams,
with
more
steel
to
make
up
for
the
steel
that
is
not
there
and
that
steel's
put
under
tension
and
at
is
an
added
support
for
the
garage.
Then.
A
B
B
F
Think
it
came
out,
could
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
because
there's
certainly
the
legal
process
that
can
be
pursued
and
it'll
take
some
time
and
then
certainly
when
all
that's
completed,
we'll
know
how
much
money
we
could
recoup?
There
is
another
option
that
I
you
know
will
have
some
further
discussion
in
the
future
about
the
city
could
consider
making
the
repairs
up
front
sooner
rather
than
later.
F
G
Fund
the
repairs
and
go
forward
with
repairs
if
the
decision
is
made
that
you
want
to
reopen
the
garage
at
the
earliest
possible
date,
we
would
give
an
opportunity
to
the
responsible
parties
to
inspect
the
garage.
Do
their
analysis
and
that
could
be
done
in
a
very
short
period
of
time
and
you
could
go
then,
with
repairs
at
your
expense
after
you
identify
a
funding
source
for
those
repairs,
and
the
other
option
is
that
we
can
initiate
these.
These
mediation
and
arbitration
demands
get
everybody
on
the
same
timetable.
G
I
guess
what
david
was
also
alluding
to
is
that
if
you
were
to
elect
to
expand
the
garage
to
add
additional
parking
on
levels,
four
and
five
at
this
point,
you
have
to
do
that
consecutively.
You
have
to
make
these
repairs
first,
you
know,
but
you
could
order
the
free,
the
precast
panels
for
the
expanded
garage.
G
G
You
won't
be
able
to
access
the
remainder
of
the
garage
until
all
the
repairs
are
completed
and
with
staging
bringing
in
materials
and
equipment.
It
really
complicates
access
from
a
lower
level
up
to
the
second
level
and
third
level,
so
it
probably
won't
allow
for
a
phased-in
reopening
of
that
do
it
all
at
once,
and
otherwise
it
would
be
quite
a
complex
thing
to
coordinate
other
questions.
G
G
This
is
a
parking
garage,
but
aesthetics
do
matter
and
he
will
walk
you
through
some
slides
and
some
projected
costs
again.
These
costs
are
preliminary
based
on
his
experience
with
similar
repairs
of
similar
garages
and
they
have
not
been
bid
out
to
any
party,
and
there
is
no
repair
scope
and
detail
for
these
repairs.
Yet,
okay,
correct,
okay!
Thank
you.
J
Okay,
there
you
go
yep,
okay,
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
time
to
speak
quickly
about
this.
What
I
was
asked
to
do
was
to
look
at
the
repairs
and
what
they
give
an
idea
of
what
they
will
look
like
and
how
they
would
be
done
to
address
these
issues.
First,
one
is
first
issue
that
you
have,
and
this
is
the
big
one-
is
the
crack
double
tees.
As
you
can
see
here,
this
is
a
typical
section.
J
J
It
was
attended
to
we'd
recommend,
what's
called
external
post
tensioning,
it's
basically
adding
cables
to
the
outside
of
each
ten
of
each
double
t,
to
make
up
the
steel,
that's
missing
inside
them
and
based
on
the
preliminary
analysis
of
what
we'd
expect
needs
to
be
done,
probably
cost
about
1.1
to
1.5
million
dollars
and
the
idea
of
what
they
will
look
like.
This
is
obviously
a
different
situation.
J
J
This
is
some
preliminary
idea
of
what
they
will
look
like
this
is
based
upon
the
concrete
section.
You
know.
That's
probably
the
one
has
the
greatest
impact
of
what
you
would
look
like,
so
we
to
do
that
we'd
probably
fill
in
the
center
piece
between
the
double
t's.
You
see
there
is
some
visual
impact,
but
not
a
significant
one,
at
least
in
my
opinion-
and
this
is
kind
of
just
a
similar
idea.
J
Just
a
different
angle-
and
you
know
from
the
outside,
you
can't
really
tell
what's
going
on
the
second
type
of
repair.
Is
the
v
cracks
and
you're
gonna
have
to
forgive
me,
it's
very
difficult
to
take
pictures
of
cracks
in
concrete,
but
there's
a
crack
kind
of
right
along
here
and
there's
then
there's
one
kind
of
married
or
mirrored
it
along
on
that
side,
you
can
see
you
have
the
two
cracks,
and
this
is
a
close-up
of
what
one
of
the
cracks
looks
like
our
cause
of
this.
J
Is
it's
missing
some
of
the
steel
that
supports
that
you
know
these
are
all
in
torsion.
They
all
get
bent
because
they're
loaded
on
one
side,
it's
missing
some
of
the
steel.
That's
needed
to
respond
that
so
we
had
what
referred
to
as
fiber
reinforced
polymer.
It's
basically
a
fabric
that
gets
stuck
in
epoxy
kind
of
glued
to
the
outside.
J
It's
much
less
significant
cost,
mostly
because
it's
not
as
big
a
problem
and
there's
not
enough
members
as
many
members
as
you
need
to
strengthen,
give
you
an
idea
of
what
that
would
look
like
if
you
paint
the
outside.
Typically,
when
you
do
them,
you
paint
them
basically
disappear.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
it.
Here's
kind
of
the
boundary
of
this
one,
but
in
my
my
opinion
anyway,
almost
blends
right
in
you
can't
really
see
what's
going
on,
and
this
is
another
one.
Maybe
the
colors
are
a
little
different,
a
little
more
different.
J
They
don't
match
it
as
nearly
as
well,
but
as
you
see,
basically,
your
frp
repairs
will
disappear.
It's
not
a
big
heavy
section
that
you're
adding
and
the
third
issue
would
be
your
cracks
in
the
columns
they're.
Only
along
the
north
and
south
face
of
your
parking
structure
and
again
it's
an
frp
repair
it'd
be
something
that
would
be
glued
to
the
outside
and
our
preliminary
cost
probable
cost
of
that
67
to
85
000.
again
I
just
wanna
emphasize
that
we
haven't
developed
a
detailed
repair
scope.
You
know
as
we
get
into
it.
J
These
costs
may
change,
but
based
on
my
experience
with
similar
types
of
repairs,
right
now,
that's
kind
of
the
ballpark
where
just
to
kind
of
summarize
these
are
you
know
the
three
types
of
repairs:
the
total
cost,
the
1.2,
the
1.6
million
dollar
range.
Again,
these
are
the
engineering
costs
and
the
actual
repair
costs
doesn't
include
any
soft
costs
that
are
no
associated
with
it
like,
for
example,
the
cost
you're
undergoing
right
now
to
provide
additional
parking,
any
costs
for
the
city
to
manage
the
project
that
they
would
need
for
them.
J
J
F
I
just
want
to
emphasize
that
I
asked
kyle
to
prepare
these
just
so
that
you
would
have
some
comparisons,
because
we
were
concerned,
you
know
not
knowing
what
the
repairs
would
look
like.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
if
we
made
these
repairs,
could
we
in
the
future
add
two
floors
and
of
course
the
other
thing
is
what
we
found
is.
This
is
a
heavily
used
parking
garage
both
by
the
pepsi
ice
center
recreation,
as
well
as
the
coliseum,
and
so
there
could
be
those
discussions
in
the
future.
Is
you
know
it?
F
L
F
I
think
you
know
in
my
understanding
it's
tilled
up
precast
concrete
panels,
so
wall
panels,
I
know,
as
I've
had
some
and
great
you
might
be,
you
know
maybe
comment.
Sometimes
there
can
be
a
little
difference,
but,
yes,
those
are
tilled
up
concrete
panels
for
the
walls
of
the
coliseum.
As
I
understand
it,
there
are
no
known.
F
F
I
I
just
want
to
correct
that
faithful
and
gold,
you
might
recall
they
were
the
ones
who
determined
or
identified
the
cracks
brought
it
to
our
attention.
Last
fall.
They
also
did
a
complete
analysis
of
the
coliseum.
They
did
not
bring
to
our
attention
any
concerns,
any
cracks
or
anything
else
in
the
coliseum
walls.
So
again,
the
same
firm
that
had
structural
engineers
and
other
very
capable
individuals
only
found
these
con
cracks
in
the
garage,
not
in
the
coliseum.
L
G
L
G
J
B
F
America,
I
have
bart
just
come
up
just
for
a
few
minutes,
because
I
do
want
to
credit
siam.
It
was
their
initiative
to
take
the
lead
in
helping
to
provide
for
a
temporary
parking
lot.
If
you
could
just
comment
on
a
little
as
to
is
that
open
and
available
now
and
and
comment
on
how
you're
trying
to
utilize
this
during
the
time
until
all
the
repairs
conditions.
A
Everybody
has
a
map.
The
location
is
about
a
block
from
the
south
of
the
coliseum
on
3308
south
lee
street,
with
the
great
work
of
a
lot
of
the
city
departments.
To
help
get
this
up
and
going
quickly,
we
were
able
to
use
it
for
the
last
show,
which
is
march
28th,
brantley
gilbert,
which
was
about
150
parking
spots
in
there,
it's
kind
of
on
a
weather
permitting
basis.
We've
had
a
lot
of
bad
weather.
Where
we
have
you
know
either.
A
B
A
B
Section
as
I've
been
provided
by
my
distinguished
council,
section
2c11
right
for
problem
eminent
litigation,
is
there
a
motion
to
go
into
executive
session?
So
second,
okay,
moved
by
alderwoman,
schmidt
and
second
by
alderman
fazzini.
We
do
need
to
do
a
roll
call
on
that
and
then
we're
going
to
go
over
there
and
we're
going
to
come
back.
Assuming
this
passes.
C
B
A
C
L
B
Yes,
thanks,
we
have
a
quorum
and
we
are
beginning
to
discuss
then
for
about
the
next
120
minutes.
If
we
have
that
much
discussion,
the
budget
and
the
continuing
saga,
that
is
our
budget,
and
we
know
that
we
had
a
budget
works
shop
after
having
about
a
month
and
a
half
of
individual
meetings
between
two
alderman
myself,
our
finance
director
and
city
manager.
So
we've
been
attempting
to
make
some
degree
of
progress
and
just
to
clarify
many
people
have
asked.
B
Some
of
that
is
health
care
costs,
but
some
of
it
is
also
getting
caught
up
on
personnel
evaluations
for
our
non-union
employees
and
for
getting
caught
up
on
our
union
contracts,
all
of
those
are
hitting
in
one
year.
So
in
a
sense
we
have
not
paid
the
true
cost
of
our
employees
for
many
years.
That's
all
hitting
us
at
once,
and
things
like
our
health
care
costs.
Even
if
we
split
that
with
employees,
if
it
goes
up
10
our
portion's
going
up
10,
so
we've
had
that
increment.
B
The
council
voted
for
the
pension
policy
for
us
to
get
on
a
an
accelerated
path.
That's
1.6
million
those
are
the
two
sort
of
big
pots
and,
of
course,
on
our
general
fund
side.
Revenues
haven't
gone
up
in
five
years,
but
our
costs
have
so
we
have
a
problem
this
year
and
we've
got
a
structural
deficit
going
forward,
and
that
is
our
revenues
have
been
here
and
no
matter
what
we
do.
B
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
it
in
the
local
government
we're
at
the
bottom
of
the
federalism
food
chain.
There's
nobody
else
for
us
to
dump
our
problems
on.
We
don't
give
grants
to
other
places.
There
are
no
big
pots
of
money.
It's
like
when
local
government,
you
pretty
much
get
what
you
see,
and
the
vast
majority
of
course
goes
to
public
safety
and
public
works,
and
so
that's
the
predicament
at
five
thousand
feet
that
we're
in
right
now.
B
F
Thank
you,
mayor
I'll,
keep
my
remarks
short
just
wanted
to
kind
of
briefly
mention
what
you
have
before
you.
As
you
might
recall,
coming
out
of
that
saturday
budget
work
session
council
indicated.
I
think
it
was
almost
nearly
unanimous
a
they
felt
that
this
budget
balancing
model
d
is
certainly
something
they
wanted
to
pursue.
F
However,
there's
not
a
lot
of
time
to
make
all
those
so-called
interest
groups
customers
aware,
but
we
tried
to
give
you
our
objective
analysis
of
what
the
consequences
would
be.
We
also
showed
a
little
chart
showing
some
of
the
personnel
reductions.
As
you
know,
in
the
police
area
there
would
be
three
police
officer
positions.
It
would
not
be
filled.
However,
in
the
parks
you
would
almost
have
nine
full-time,
equivalent
positions
and
again
stressing
full-time
equivalent
many
many
hours.
It
would
have
to
be
cut
and
services
reduced
to
to
make
up
for
that.
F
F
At
least
what
some
of
these
other
cities
have
done,
not
only
in
the
research
before,
but
after
implementation
of
a
local
motor
fuel
tax
and
then.
Finally,
I
did
want
to
ask
the
council
that,
as
you
discussed
the
budget
tonight,
I
have
a
very
strong
recommendation
that
you
continue
to
consider
the
public
safety
personnel
as
listed
there,
and
there
is
a
few
items,
some
corrections
police
grant
revenue.
F
I
do
believe
that
many
of
the
recommendations
we're
getting
from
the
directors
on
raising
fees
could
best
be
accomplished
by
a
very
comprehensive
service
fee
and
rate
study.
This
would
look
at
fees
and
service
charges
outside
of
water
sewer
storm
drain
things
of
that
nature,
but
you
really
need
that
kind
of
study
to
look
at
the
full
cost
of
those
services.
What
we're
charging
and
also
what
should
be
the
policy-
and
these
are
very
labor
intensive,
but
we
have
that
as
well
as
a
few
other
items.
F
And
last
but
not
least,
I
do
want
to
come
back
and
mention
that
two
of
the
internal
staff
areas
that
are
need
significant
assistance
and
resources.
Is
it
and
hr?
Many
of
our
line
departments,
please
fire
and
others
strongly,
are
in
need
of
additional
support
and
resources.
So
I
I
put
that
back
in
there,
but
again,
that's
just
for
your
consideration.
F
Both
myself
patti
lynn,
silva,
the
finance
director,
carla
morello,
the
budget
manager
and
all
the
directors
are
here,
and
we
stand
ready
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
on
any
of
this
material
as
you
continue
your
deliberation
and
decision
making
on
the
fiscal
year
2015
budget.
Thank
you.
Man.
B
Just
a
couple
other
points
of
clarification,
this
process
would
probably
have
been
a
lot
easier.
In
fact,
I'm
sure
it
would
have
been
a
lot
easier
if
we
hadn't
shed
roughly
75
positions
five
years
ago
and
because,
if
we
hadn't
had
hadn't
shed
75
positions
five
years
ago,
there'd
be
more
obvious
places
where
we
might
be
able
to
cut,
or
you
know,
but
we
did
a
fair
amount
of
belt
tightening
then
and
have
continued
to
try
to
do
more
with
less.
B
The
other
thing
is
if
we,
where
were
we
in
the
position
that
we
were
five
years
ago,
we'd
had
more
also
revenues
more
employees
and
it's
since
then.
In
a
sense,
our
real
our
revenues
and
real
dollars
have
declined
because
we
haven't
increased
them,
and
so
at
this
point,
we're
not
going
to
get
a
budget
that
anybody
wants.
B
If
we're
lucky,
we'll
get
a
budget,
that's
responsible
and
one
that
we
can
live
with,
and
I'd
also
note
that
the
budget
model
d
that
you're
mentioning
mr
hales
and
again
you're
preparing
this
consistent
with
the
many
different
recommendations
of
the
of
the
council,
does
not
do
anything
to
fund
our
our
pension
policy.
It's
that
aside,
no
long-term
source
of
revenue
to
fund
that
that's
also,
that's
not
a
good
thing
from
the
standpoint
of
bond
agents
writing
agencies,
and
it
essentially
means
that
the
the
pensions
are
subject
to
political.
B
You
know
imaginations
of
a
council
two
years
from
now
three
years
from
now
20
years
from
now
25
years
from
now,
rather
than
having
something
that's
set
aside
and
again,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
public
utility
tax.
That's
the
one
thing
I
had
recommended,
not
because
I
want
it.
I
don't
want
to
pay
taxes.
I
don't
want
taxes
any
more
than
anybody
else
does,
but
it
is
the
one
source
that
could
be
earmarked.
B
It
would
give
us
a
little
more
than
four
million
dollars,
that
of
that
the
the
six
million
that
we
need
over
five
years.
So
it
mostly
gets
us
to
the
plateau
that
we
need
to
be
at
to
fund
our
pensions
for
the
long
term,
and
if
we
do
that
properly,
we
will
save
68
million
dollars
for
bloomington
taxpayers
during
that
period
of
time.
Otherwise
we
passed
a
bold
pension
policy
and
we
didn't
follow
through.
B
B
We
thought
we
were
doing
that
on
top
of
4
million
right,
and
I
think
I
can
say
that
for
for
those
who
supported
this,
I
think
that
was
our
understanding.
So,
in
a
sense
this
is
another
means
that
we're
getting
through
the
year
with
fiscal
duct
tape
and
we're
not
really
planning
for
the
long
term.
We're
not
really
coming
to
grips
with
the
structural
deficit
and
what
our
city
is
and
what
we,
how
we're
going
to
fund
us
as
we
go
forward.
B
B
L
H
B
The
fees
or
referrals
it's
up
to
us
if
at
some
point
we're
done,
we
have
some
people
in
the
audience.
We
could
suspend
the
rules
and
ask
them
to
participate
if
we
want.
I
think
at
this
point
it's
up
to
you
as
a
council
how
we
want
to
proceed
and
have
a
productive
discussion,
and
just
that
everybody
knows
there
is.
There
are
two
excuse
me.
B
315
east
front
street
and
then
the
next
night.
There
are
three
wards,
and
this
is
where
we
you
got
to
admire
the
logistics
of
coming
together
by
alderman
sage
and
all
the
woman,
schmidt
and
alderman
black
and
that's
at
miller
park
pavilion
and
that
it's
at
6
30.,
and
that
is
the
one
I
will
not
even
be
able
to
come
to.
I
am
actually
quadruple
booked.
So
I
I
apologize,
but
I
will
I'm
sure,
be
able
to
get
the
skinny
from
all
of
you.
F
Yes
and
mayor,
I
think
we
do
want
to
mention
too,
for
the
council's
benefit.
We
have
advertised
the
statutorily
required
public
hearing
on
the
budget
for
a
week
from
tonight,
that'll
be
at
seven
o'clock,
so
that
is
the
one
that
we
have
to
have
every
year
prior
to
final
adoption
of
a
budget.
So
that's
next
monday
night
at
seven.
Thank
you.
H
Housekeeping
is
over
with
so
I
wanted
to
ask
some
specific
questions
and
I've
really
kind
of
withheld
my
questions
about
the
budget
via
email.
I
wanted
to
do
them
in
public
because
I
think
it's
important
that
the
public
can
see
what
our
discussions
are,
and
I
wanted
to
highlight
a
few
things
that
really
caught
my
eye
in
terms
of
the
cuts
here
and
justine.
Can
you
come
up
quick
quickly,
sorry,
on
the
hot
seat?
What
I'm
looking
at
is
the
iedc
spring
conference.
That's
a
3
500
cut
eliminating
professional
development
plans.
M
Sure
the
iedc
annual
conference
and
spring
conferences
are
two
different
opportunities.
It's
a
professional
development
course
to
work
towards
the
certification
as
a
certified
economic
development,
professional
and
then
it's
a
series
of
workshops
where
we
hear
from
national
experts
and
learn
about
best
practices
throughout
the
conference
meet
with
industry
professionals
from
across
the
country
and
and
take
workshops
about
what
we
should
be
doing
and
bringing
back
to
our
communities
does.
M
H
H
H
N
It
became
very
evident
that
we
needed
to
develop
an
internal
audit
program
that
was,
in
my
opinion,
more
of
a
perhaps
a
contract
position
where
they
would
come
in
and
design
the
program
for
us,
and
then
we
would
be
able
to
fulfill
that
and
finance
and
monitor
it.
That's
something
that
was
in
this
year's
budget,
but
because
of
staff
vacancies
and
turnover,
we
weren't
able
to
get
it
off
the
ground,
and
we
were
hoping
to
do
that
next
year.
N
In
the
meantime,
we
have
done
a
citywide
cash
control
study,
one
of
our
biggest
issues
across
the
city
and
have
implemented
many
internal
controls,
because
both
paulette
and
I
come
from
a
heavy
audit
background.
But
in
a
a
continuous
audit
approach
and
an
internal
audit
program
for
a
city,
this
size
is
really,
in
my
opinion,
a
necessity.
F
And
I
just
want
to
add:
if
you
don't
have
an
internal
auditing
function,
you
have
a
higher
risk
for
air,
for
theft,
for
non-compliance
with
federal
state
and
local
and
again
we
have
good
people,
but
inevitably
sometimes
we
deal
with
some
very
complex
matters
and
computations,
even
sometimes
trying
to
comply
with
all
union
and
state
and
federal
payroll
records.
Things
like
that.
So
it
is
definitely
a
good
practice.
F
If
you
want
to
have
strong
internal
controls,
you
not
only
have
good
people
policing
procedures,
but
you
have
an
internal
audit
function
to
help
assure
compliance
and
those
can
be
shifted
year
to
year
depending
upon
the
need.
So
it's
just.
We
have
greater
risk
exposure
without
such
a
position
or
contract
position.
F
H
F
F
K
Yeah,
I
have
a
couple
different
kinds
of
questions.
One
has
to
do
with
police
there's
a
very
big
ticket
item
here
for
downtown
higher
back,
and
I
certainly
understand
myself
what
the
consequence
of
that
is.
It's
900
and
well.
The
reduction
is
130
000.
I
I
think
it
might
be
useful
to
talk
about
that
and
I'll.
K
And,
and
in
addition
to
that,
with
the
police,
this
restoration
of
three
police
officers
the
vacancies
there,
and
I
don't
think
that
we
talk
quite
a
bit
about
adding
an
assistant
chief.
We
haven't
talked
necessarily
about
some
of
the
other
in
in
much
detail
about
restoring
the
three
vacancies
downtown
higher
back
elimination.
O
Basically,
we
hire
officers
back
to
work
downtown,
so
the
officers
during
shifts
don't
have
to
focus
there.
They
can
be
out
in
other
areas
and
basically
that
helps
our
response
time.
With
that
cut
out,
we
will
be
responding
to
downtown
as
we
get
calls
as
opposed
to
having
some
officers
down
there
on
a
patrol-like
basis.
If
you
would
and
their
presence
down
there
is
a
deterrence
also
besides
reducing
our
response
time
and
what
was
the
other
part.
F
O
F
Yeah
but
the
beats
you
know,
maybe
let's
say
eight.
I
just
want
to
emphasize
that
without
the
downtown
higher
back.
If,
if
there's
a
need
for
something
downtown,
those
officers
are
going
to
come
from.
Those
beats
they'll
be
downtown
to
deal
with
any
calls
or
problems,
but
they
won't
necessarily
be
back
out
in
the
neighborhoods.
F
O
B
It
can
be,
at
least
in
when
I
was
down
with
some
of
the
people
with
the
higher
backs.
The
night
I
was
down
with
that
was
four.
This
is
about
a
year
and
two
months
ago,
and
there
was
a
woman
who
attacked
one
of
the
officers
and
then
we
went-
and
I
just
observe
her
and
help
out.
He
took
her
in
to
be
booked
at
the
jail
and
we
were.
It
was
like
an
hour
and
15
minutes
that
you
were
not
they
weren't,
even
downtown.
O
Right
and
as
you
recall,
we
had
a
high
number
of
dui
arrests
this
year.
So
if
we
have
people
responding
to
downtown,
they
might
get
some,
but
they
aren't
out
patrolling
like
they
normally
would
be,
or
they
might
run
across
more
duis.
I
would
look
for
that
number
to
probably
go
down
in
regards
to
backfilling.
We
have
a
current
vacancy.
We
have.
We
have
two
current
vacancies
that
need
to
be
backfilled,
and
then
we
have
officer
retiring,
I
believe,
may
9th.
O
B
K
K
L
F
F
B
P
A
A
That
would
take
us
down
to
the
124
after
we
eliminate
the
three
so
and
that
that
that
impact
that
we
felt
for
years
to
come
because
we're
going
to
be
forever
trying
to
regain.
We've
been
authorized
at
127
and
we
actually
have
some
potential
hires
to
interview
tomorrow.
But
we
can't
hire
those
until
we
know
the
outcome
of
this
because
we're
at
our
maxing.
A
K
K
You
very
much
I've
been
asked
as
by
people
as
we
talk
about
sources
of
revenue
streams.
Why
we're
not
looking
at
property
tax-
and
I
think,
we've
kind
of
talked
about
that
a
little
bit
up
here,
because
we've
we've
heard
from
people.
So
could
you
just
briefly
talk
about
the
calendar
because
I
think
we're
my
understanding
is
we're
out
of
sequence
to
talk
about
that.
F
Yes,
first
and
let
me
go
back
to
last
december
because
I
think
it's
also
affects
this
year's
budget.
When
we
implemented
the
police
and
fire
pension
funding
policy
and
to
to
meet
minimum
statutory
requirements,
our
pension
costs
went
up,
1.6
million
we
are
taking
and
showing
that
coming
out
of
property
tax.
So
that's
where
we
kind
of
covered
the
first
year.
You
know
payment
towards
is
five
six
years,
however,
that
reduce
our
general
fund
revenue
by
1.6
million
and
that's
on
top
of
any
other
drop
in
the
the
sales
tax.
F
As
you
know,
which
has
even
gone
down
further,
but
the
the
council
does
have
the
opportunity
cut,
you
know
every
year,
you
know
in
november
and
december
you
can
adjust
the
property
tax
levy,
and
so,
but
back
there
in
in
november
and
december,
we
did
talk
about
the
utility
tax
as
a
long-term
pending
funding
mechanism.
It
wouldn't
get
us
to
the
total
6.5
million,
but
it'd
get
us
close
to
about
4
million
as
we've
shown,
but
the
council
wanted
to
keep
the
property
tax
levy
flat.
F
K
A
And
just
to
tag
on
karen
to
something
you
said
that
timing
is
set
by
state
law
right
david,
that's
not
something
that
we
can
control
again,
maybe
kind
of
continue
something
with
with
karen's
question
and
and
maybe
just
ask
as
we
ask
questions
going
forward.
If,
if
aldermen
can
refer
to
a
specific
page,
maybe
that
they're
looking
at
that
might
make
it
easier
for
us
to
see
that
kind
of
track
that
a
little
bit
back
to
the
downtown
higher
back.
A
A
We
see
it
with
the
solid
waste
structure
if
you
use
more
or
produce
more
waste
and
that
type
of
thing
and
there's
probably
no
easy
way
to
ask
the
question,
but
why?
Why
wouldn't
we
go
forward
with
recouping
the
the
downtown
higher
back
from
those
businesses
who
specifically
benefit
from
the
downtown
higher
back.
F
F
B
Just
to
remind
you
in
the
audience
that
the
liquor
commission
has
been
talking
about,
this,
we've
actually
talked
about
it,
a
little
bit
even
in
the
council
right
just
as
an
aside.
There
are
some
of
the
the
bar
owners,
who
would
say
it
shouldn't
just
be
them
who
bear
the
burden
that
there'd
be
things
like
lubumba
or
whatever,
who
they,
they
would
already
contribute
to
some
of
the
problems
downtown,
but
yeah.
This
has
definitely
been
out
there.
A
Well,
and
for
clarification,
I'm
not
suggesting
something
that
would
apply
to
all
liquor
licenses
across
the
entire
city,
I'm
talking
specifically
about
about
those
businesses
that
benefit
directly
from
the
downtown
higher
back.
Okay,
that's
so!
But
my
point
is
and
again
I'm
I'll
just
offer
some
things
just
to
kind
of
move
the
conversation
along.
If
I
look
at
that,
that's
a
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars-
that's
estimated
here
as
as
a
cost
to
the
city.
If
I'm
looking
on
page
six
at
a
couple
of
the
the.
A
Items
for
I
believe
it's
public
works
ones
is
a
streets
master
plan
and
one
is
a
facility
plan.
Those
are
four
hundred
and
eighty
five
thousand
put
together
and
again.
These
are
these
are
suggestions
from
from
you.
We
look
at
that.
The
downtown
higher
back-
that's
that's
515
000,
right
right
there,
which,
which
I'm
suggesting
is,
is
certainly
not
painless,
if
you,
if
you
happen
to
own
a
business
downtown
that
benefits
from
the
higher
back.
A
A
F
F
F
F
You
know
in
other
areas
of
the
city,
so
there
always
has
to
be
that
due
diligence
to
make
sure
that
when
we
come
back
with
a
recommendation
on
a
revenue
increase
that
it's
we
can
do
that
by
law
or
our
home
rule
powers
and
that
we've
done
our
due
diligence
looking
at
the
cost
recovery
and
also
bring
back
policy
options,
100
percent
cost
recovery
so
on
and
so
forth,
but
and
just
on
the
street
master
plan.
Many
times
in
the
budget
where
we
have
preliminary
rough
estimates,
maybe
guesstimates.
F
However,
just
in
this
last
30
days,
we
have
got
indication
that
that
street
master
plan
could
be
done
for
maybe
as
low
as
thousand
dollars.
So
that's
that
revision
is
based
on
new
information,
but
again
until
we
go
through
a
scope
of
work,
put
it
out
for
bid,
you
know.
Sometimes
a
lot
of
these
are
based
on
the
best
information
we
have
at
the
time
we
make
the
budget
and
submit
the
budget
to
the
city
council.
F
A
I
hope
that
helps
and
and
just
one
more
comment,
mayor
and
I'll
be
done
again,
as
I
look
at
at
a
couple
of
other
pages
here
like
on
on
six
and
seven,
I
look
at
some
seasonal
reductions
in
our
parks
and
recs
area.
I'm
looking
at
a
couple
different
columns.
There
looks
to
be
maybe
about
370
000
in
a
couple
different
of
the
parks
divisions.
A
Budget
cuts
that
I
would
suggest-
wouldn't
I'm
not
sure,
are
going
to
create
the
kind
of
of
a
public
fear
over
over
what
we're
talking
about
here
that
that
I
maybe
would
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more
front
and
center,
rather
than
talking
about
you
know:
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
the
mclean
county,
historical
museum.
That
type
of
thing.
D
Thank
you
david.
You
spoke
about
the
street
master
plan,
that's
something
that
I
was
going
to
bring
up
so
on
on
page
10.
I
guess
the
the
question
to
the
average
citizen
would
be.
Why
would
we
need
it
this
year,
as
opposed
to
next
year,
when
we
know
the
condition
that
our
streets
are
in?
So
why
now,
as
opposed
to
next
year,
yeah.
F
F
F
You
know
to
make
major
expenditures
on
the
surface
of
any
streets
without
knowing
the
condition
of
the
underground
utilities,
and
we
have
not
had
the
resources
in
the
last
five
years
to
do
that
kind
of
televising
to
look
and
see.
Should
there
be
some
priorities
and
just
because
you
know
we
have
done
that
for
the
10
million
dollar
bond,
some
streets
came
off
the
list
because
the
underground
utilities
were
were
not
in
the
condition
to
where
we
felt
that
over
lane,
you
know
would
be
the
wise
thing
to
do.
F
I
think
the
other
thing
is.
We
do
not
have
as
a
city
a
prioritized
list
of
major
reconstruction
projects.
That
would
call
for
say
some
whitening.
You
might
recall
lafayette
street
from
morrissey
down
to
maple.
That
was
too
often,
I
think,
we've
seen
in
the
past.
Special
projects
come
up
either
from
the
neighborhood
from
an
alderman.
F
You
know,
etc,
etc.
Yet
when
is
the
rest
of
the
lafayette
street
going
to
be
widened,
where
we
have
10
000
average
daily
traffic
flows,
you
know
sometimes
it's
the
squeaky
wheel.
Sometimes
it's
someone
who's
going
to
champion,
but
I
think
the
better
way
for
this
city
to
go
going
forward
is
just
like
with
the
street
and
sewer
master
plan.
Let's
assess
our
inventory.
F
F
Yes,
ultimately,
you,
the
council
makes
the
final
decision
on
what
to
spend,
but
this
is
a
city
five
years
ago
that
had
no
capital
improvement
plan.
There
is
nothing
to
kind
of
give
that
long-range
plan
of
what
our
needs
were.
The
assessment,
except
for
the
parks
facilities
street,
is
one
of
those
where
we
really
have
to
be
more
organized,
more
methodical
and
we
have
to
engage
the
public.
The
public
has
no
idea
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
with
road
reconstruction.
F
You
know
in
the
second
to
next
year,
the
following
year,
the
third
year,
because
we
just
haven't,
had
the
resources
to
do
the
homework,
to
be
able
to
come
back
to
you
in
a
very
professional
scientific
and
methodical
way,
share
with
you
the
priorities
and
and
why
you
know
you
should
look
at
this
rather
than
that
particular
project.
So
we
are
definitely.
F
I
think,
we've
made
great
progress,
but
we
are
still
lacking
some
critical
information
so
that
you
with
the
community's
involvement-
and
I
think
that's
that's-
got
to
be
the
the
key
community
needs
to
be
part
of
this
process.
When
you
have
400
million
dollars
in
infrastructure
needs
out
there,
we've
got
to
be
very
specific
and
strategic
in
how
we
spend
those
dollars,
and
unfortunately,
it
takes
time
to
put
those
kind
of
plans
together.
Thank
you
for
answering.
D
N
Just
that
that,
in
the
faithful
and
gold
dollars
that
we
did
put
in
this
year
were
ones
that
were
considered
priority.
One
level,
one
life,
safety
issues
and
one
of
the
things
that
they
pointed
out
was
the
safety
signage
in
city
hall,
as
well
as
you
can
see
a
lot
of
the
kitchen
hood
systems
and
the
firehouses
and
things
like
that,
and
that
has
remained
not
cut
since
it
was
such
a
small
dollar
amount.
D
B
Just
so
everybody's
normally
I
would.
I
said
that
I
was
already
gonna
recognize
all
the
women's
terms.
Normally
I'd
have
everybody
who
has
not
spoken
yet
speak
first,
but
because
I
said
that
I'm
gonna
go
to
all
the
women's
turns
and
then
all
the
woman
painter
and
then
alderman
lauer,
all
the
woman
stearns.
L
Thank
you.
I
I
was
just
kind
of
trying
to
stay
on
topic
here,
since
the
police
chief
was
up.
I
thought
maybe
that
if
we
have
a
staff
member
up
here
to
avoid
you
know
back
and
forth
back
and
forth,
I
had
a
question
as
well
for
the
chief,
but
unfortunately
he's
already
gone
backward
or
you
can
either
one
of
you.
I'm
sure
knows
the
answer
to
this,
and
it
does
relate
to
the
higher
back.
Frankly,
the
I've
tried
to
do
the
math
on
the
overtime.
L
I
understand
that
all
of
these
officers
I've
ridden
with
them
I've
been
out
there
with
them
more
than
once,
and
I
understand
they're
all
on
a
higher
back
basis,
which
is
some
kind
of
an
overtime.
Obviously
you
know
basis,
and
if
I
do
the
math,
it
looks
to
me
like
because
we're
looking
at
thursday,
friday
and
saturday
during
the
school
year
for
sure,
because
thursday,
I
think
can
be
one
can
be
almost
one
of
the
worst
but
anyway
and
we're
looking
at
four
to
six
officers.
L
So
here's
my
question:
what
is
the
dollar
amount
of
the
higher
back
in
in
your
best
opinion,
or
guess
of
all
that
you
know
completely?
Obviously,
outside
the
salary
realm,
it's
all
higher
back
what
what's
the
dollar
amount
on
a
year,
yeah
all
over
time
or
just
down
for
all?
No
just
the
higher
back
all
the
higher.
I
A
L
L
I
agree
with,
what's
already
been
said
about
those
who
are
down
there,
you
know
the
the
bar
owners
I'll
just
say
it,
and
I
know
that
you
know
I'm
very
direct
and
that
gets
me
in
trouble,
but
you
know
those
who
are
profiting
from
this.
In
my
opinion
I
mean
why
on
earth,
don't
we
have
an
entertainment
district?
I
I
really
don't
want
to
see
all
of
the
bar
owners
paying,
because
some
of
the
bar
owners
in
town
are
really
struggling,
and
I
think
we
have
less
liquor
licenses
now.
L
B
L
Reduction:
five:
okay,
thank
you!
Thank
you.
Some
of
them
are
really
struggling
and
I
don't
think
it's
fair
at
all
that
they
would
have
to
pay
more,
but
I
do
think
an
entertainment
district
and
a
certain
charge
to
that
district
for
what
that
is
really
costing
the
city
you
know.
Frankly,
I
think
they
need
police
police
officers
down
there.
No
question
I'd
like
to
see
it
continue,
but
I
would
like
to
see
it
paid
for
by
those
you
can
say:
they're
benefiting
or
they're,
creating
the
need
whatever.
L
However,
you
want
to
put
it,
but
that
would
seem
like
just
logical
to
me
and
not
only
that,
but
I
just
want
to
say
this.
I
guess
kind
of
in
a
vacuum
is
that
I
think
we
really
did
ask
that
the
environment
downtown
be
drastically
changed.
I
don't
know
you
know
again
just
in
a
vacuum.
If
we
need
to
close,
you
know,
change
the
closing
time
to
1
a.m.
L
I
don't
know
what
we
need
to
do,
but
to
me
it's
a
very
dangerous
and
chaotic
situation
that
we've
city
council
has
asked
to
see
a
big
difference,
and
I
don't
think
we've
seen
that
big
difference
and
that
may
that's
discussion
for
another
day,
but
it
feeds
directly
into
this
higher
back
situation
that
to
me
the
citizens
of
bloomington
should
not
be
paying
for,
although
I
do
think
we
need
it.
So
thank
you
for
for
that.
P
D
A
A
So
this
is
a
what?
If
what,
if
we
pulled
away
from
higher
back,
what
would
the
downtown
owners
do?
Would
they
hire
their
own
responsible
protection?
Or
what
do
you
think?
What's
the
crystal
ball?
Tell
you
what
would
happen
if
we
pulled
our
force,
all
of
our
oh
lizzie,
he
spoke
earlier.
All
of
our
beat
cars
would
be
downtown
and
the
beats
wouldn't
get
the
protection
that
they
needed.
Yeah.
O
A
To
the
council
is,
we've
talked
for
a
long
time
about
getting
people
to
pay,
for
you
know
the
owners
downtown
to
pay
for
the
cost,
and
we
just
haven't
made
any
progress
or
haven't
found
that
solution,
and
it
just
continues
year
after
year.
So
I'll
remove
myself
and
then
come
back
when
it's
right.
You.
I
Before
he
fellas
leave-
and
I
don't
think
you're
going
to
have
the
answer
to
this,
but
it's
just
a
thought
and
again
yeah.
I
know
I'm
new
to
this
and
and
we
have
had
this
discussion,
I
think
it
was
last
spring
early
when
we
went
into
that
season,
wondering
if
there
is
a
a
better
way
that
we
can
better
allocate
the
expense
of
this
to
the
folks
who
are
actually
using
it.
I
So
I
don't
know
whether
it
would
be
a
one
dollar
per
drink
issue
or
whether
it
would
be
a
raise
in
fines
for
the
offenders
or
a
combination
thereof
with
the
particular
establishments
having
to
fund
a
little
part
of
this
as
well.
I
don't
know,
but
I
think
it.
It
probably
bears
time
for
some
discussion
about
this
particular
subject.
F
It
is
yeah,
many
years
ago,
bloomington,
town
of
normal
mclean,
county
and
many
other
cities
entered
into
an
agreement
where
everyone
agreed
that
they'd
like
to
see
this
route
66
trail,
but
we've
only
been
funding
it
as
we've
been
able
to
get
grants
from
the
state
of
utah
or
state
illinois,
but
those
are
not
100
percent
cost
recovery
grant.
So
this
is
our
contractual
portion
of
the
most
recent
grants
that
have
been
awarded
to
mclean
county
for
us
to
pay
our
our
fair
share
and,
unfortunately,
because
the
city
is
the
largest
entity
by
population.
F
Q
Thank
you.
I
believe
the
question
was:
are
we
committed
to
it?
No,
we
are
not
at
this
point.
The
miller
park
zoological
society
has
approximately
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
have
been
raised.
Some
are
earmarked
for
certain
projects,
others
are
unrestricted,
but
their
the
rough
estimate
would
be.
The
40
share
of
theirs
would
be
100.
150
would
be
the.
P
P
Q
Well,
as
far
as
you
know,
we
would
still
meet
the
minimum
requirements.
It
just
would
take
away
any
flexibility
that
we
have
and
if
there
were
situations
where
we
dropped
below
those
minimum
standards
that
we
might
end
up
having
to
close
for
a
while
until
we
could
meet
the
minimum
standards.
So
we
would
do
the
best
to
mitigate
that
potential.
Extra
liability.
P
F
F
We
do
get
into
some
pretty
complex
evaluation
of
direct,
as
well
as
indirect
costs.
There
has
to
be
a
lot
of
interaction
with
staff
because
for
every
service
that
we're
looking
at,
we
need
to
know.
Well.
What
are
we
doing?
What
are
we
providing?
How
much
time
does
it
take?
What
is
the
cost,
both
salary
and
and
benefits
for
that,
and
then
we
have
to
make
sure
that
indirect
costs
from
the
city
administration
and
that
is
allocated
accordingly.
F
N
Yes,
when
we
use
the
nomenclature,
local
motor
fuel
tax
for
us
we're
really
not
bound
by
the
motor
fuel
tax
stipulations
of
the
state
grant.
We
use
that,
so
it
would
be
familiar
to
the
people
that
we
would
be
taxing
the
f.
The
filings
would
be
the
same,
we'd
call
it
it's
really
a
local,
well
gasoline
and
diesel
tax,
and
we
it's
a
gross
receipt
tax
that
goes
in
the
general
fund.
You
can
ear
market
for
anything
you
would
like,
but
there
are
no
stipulations
on
spending.
It.
B
N
Yes,
not
the
state
money,
but
if
we
did
a
local
gross
receipts
tax
on
motor
fuel,
then
yes,
we
could
do
that
and
and
that's
there
and
lies
the
confusion
with
calling
it
the
local
motor
fuel
tax,
but
because
it
would
read
well
with
the
people
that
you're
actually
paying
the
tax.
That
was
a
kind
of
a
choice
that
champaign
and
other
cities
made.
I
I
It's
concerning
to
me,
though,
that
we're
not
really
nailing
down
a
prioritization
to
me
and
and
and
the
folks
that
I
talk
with
in
my
ward
as
well
as
across
the
city.
I
would
think
that
an
awful
lot
of
of
the
things
that
have
been
suggested,
such
as
the
downtown
higher
back,
is
a
very,
very
important
priority
versus
some
of
the
other
services
projects.
I
Certainly,
after
last
winter,
we've
got
to
look
at
funding
for
water,
and-
and
I
know
it
has
its
own
fund
and
that's
a
great
thing
and
they've
got
a
little
bit
of
a
surplus
right
now,
but
certainly
public
safety
ought
to
be
right
at
the
top
of
the
list
and
and
as
well
when
we're
talking
about
a
revenue
stream.
I
think
this
kind
of
gets
to
the
core
mayor.
I
That
retirement
plan
was
promised
these
folks.
Many
years
ago
we
haven't
stepped
up
the
plate.
Really,
we've
got
to
fund
that,
regardless,
whether
we
raise
taxes,
we
don't
raise
taxes,
we
have
a
coliseum,
we
don't
have
a
coliseum.
Whatever
we
do
here,
we've
got
to
pay
that,
and
so
really
that
ought
to
be
coming
off
the
top,
and
then
we
look
at
these
other
lower
priorities
that
we're
currently
funding
and
and
think
about
revenue
streams
for
those.
I
If
we're
going
to
tax
people,
we're
really
talking
about
taxing
all
these
other
programs
that
we're
currently
offering
that
really
aren't
fundamental
needs.
Okay
and-
and
that's
the
way,
I'm
trying
to
look
at
this,
if
we're
going
to
make
cuts
or
if
we're
going
to
add
taxes,
okay,
we
really
need
to
have
a
deep
heart-to-heart
discussion
on
exactly
what
we
absolutely
do
need
to
have
one
of
these
things
that
I
don't
think
that
we
can
cut.
Is
this
higher
back
with
the
recent
death
that
we
had
in
the
dui?
I
I
Maybe
it
shouldn't
be
coming
out
of
necessarily
the
general
fund,
or
maybe
there
should
be
some
fines
associated
with
it,
to
try
to
pay
for
that.
Okay
and-
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
take
a
step
back.
This
is
a
good
start
and
dave.
You
know
great,
you
know,
but
I
think
some
of
the
guys
have
really
got
some
skin
in
the
game
that
we
would
really
normally
think
of
as
a
priority.
One
of
those
things
again
is
is
some
firefighter
training.
I
don't
think
we
can
pull
that
off
the
table.
I
You
know
I've
been
in
a
situation
where
I've
done
training,
that's
kept
people
out
of
trouble,
and-
and
I
know
what
that
means-
I've
also
been
the
recipient
of
that
type
of
training,
and
it
certainly
has
kept
me
out
of
trouble,
and
I
can
tell
you
story
upon
story
and
I'm
sure
our
firefighters
can
do
the
same
thing.
So
again.
I
think
we
need
to
take
a
bit
of
a
step
back
here.
I
I
Most
of
that
is
done
by
volunteer
and
it's
at
at
no
cost
really
to
the
city
to
speak
of
okay,
and
so
again,
let's
go
to
the
heart
of
bloomington.
Think
about
where
we've
been
think
about
who
we
really
were
and
are,
and
you
know
folks
if
we
want
to
have
these
nice
things,
let's
be
a
part
of
that,
let's
step
up
to
the
plate
and
and
and
show
a
little
bit
of
leadership.
I
Functions
in
the
in
the
community
programs
is
a
nice
thing,
but
when
a
guy's
been
walking
around
with
two
pairs
of
socks,
since
he
was
six,
you
know
I'm
thinking
about
the
old
man
here.
You
know
you
got
to
kind
of
prioritize
a
little
bit
and
a
lot
of
our
retirees
actually
did
come
through
the
depression
and
they
understand
what
I'm
talking
about
here.
We've
got
a
lot
of
very,
very
expensive
things
that
we're
spending
money
on.
We
need
to
come
up.
I
B
B
I
J
I
B
Well,
the
one
thing
about
some
of
this
is
again
nobody's,
arguing
that,
with
the
coliseum
50
of
the
subsidy,
we
are
legally
obligated
to
fund
the
coliseum.
We
may
not
want
it.
That's
part
of
the
problem
in
local
government,
okay,
we're
stuck-
and
this
is
the
point
where
again
at
the
bottom
of
the
food
chain
in
the
local
government
I
mean
we
can
put.
B
8
million
dollars
we're
not
going
to
get
people
who
come
by
and
maybe
help
us
give
us
tours
who
are
volunteers
to
do
things
or
staff,
something
at
a
cookie
bit.
You
know
booth!
That's
going
to
get
us
through
eight
million
bucks.
It
just
ain't
gonna
happen.
I
I'd
like
to
promise
a
free
lunch,
but
this
isn't
a
free
lunch.
This
is
the
time
for
us.
I
think
you're
right,
the
man
up.
I
Older
lady
call
me-
and
she
said
I
understand-
that
you're
cutting
or
you're
considering
cutting
programs
for
the
elderly
and
the
youth
out
of
parks
and
recreation.
I
said
yes
ma'am
those
everything's
on
the
table,
okay,
but
here's
the
here's
the
bottom
line.
If
you
want
bissell
street
paved
in
the
next
four
or
five
years,
we've
got
to
find
it
from
someplace.
Unless
you
want
to
to.
You
know
us
to
raise
your
taxes
and
you
may
not
even
be
able
to
pay
for
them.
I
I
Let's
look
at
our
legal
legal
obligations.
Let's
look
at
what
we
absolutely
have
to
have
in
terms
of
public
safety,
infrastructure,
streets,
sewers,
water,
etc
and
then
set
those
aside
that
funding
is
already
there.
Okay,
pensions
would
be
part
of
that.
Okay
and
then
look
at
what
we
have
left
and
what
we
are
able
to
fund
fair.
B
I
I
But
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
have
some
deeper
cuts
into
some
of
these
programs
that
we
haven't
even
mentioned
and
and
david
calls
it
minutiae.
I'm
sorry,
it's
not
okay,
it's
not
when,
when
people
can't
afford
a
higher
tax
bill
it
it.
This
is
where
the
rubber
meets
the
road.
Okay,
at
some
point
we're
going
to
kill
our
tax
base,
even
if
you
just
want
to
look
at
it,
not
even
from
a
human
standpoint
but
from
a
dollars
and
cent
standpoint
at
some
point.
I
Else
says:
yes,
because
we
are
a
magnet
because
we
don't
have
it:
okay,
we're
able
to
produce
goods
and
services
cheaper
than
anybody
else.
If
we
do
that,
and
so
the
other
businesses
are
going
to
want
to
come
here.
Okay,
that's
the
thought
process,
that's
what
ronald
reagan
did
back
in
the
80s
okay
and
it
happened
and
it
worked
and
you
can't
deny
it
and
we
can
do
the
same.
L
I
B
I
guess
there
would
be
a
philosophical
disagreement,
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
one
of
the
others.
That
is
at
least
in
all
the
city.
Research.
I've
seen
I've
never
heard
of
low
taxes
being
one
of
the
top
variables
it's.
What
manage
you
have
do
people
want
to
be
there?
Even
you
know,
good
roads
and
infrastructure
are
up
there.
When
you
go
down
the
tube,
it's
either
statistically
insignificant
or
very
small,
and
at
this
point
our
tax
rates
are
comparatively
small
to
everybody
else.
I
B
L
I
think
actually
rob
was
next
right,
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
I
just
want
to
kind
of
speak
from
a
higher
level
too
and
agree
that
we
can't
I
mean
we
don't
have
you
know
ten
hours
to
sit
here
and
talk
about.
You
know
five
thousand
dollar
items.
I
have
a
lot
of
things,
I'd
like
to
ask
questions
about
too,
but
from
from
a
different
from
a
different
perspective,
I
do
agree
that
we
need
to
talk
about
the
large
big
things
and
the
philosophy
and
the
priorities.
L
We
met
with
you
in
the
fall,
whatever
two
on
two
or
whatever,
and
I
think
some
of
us
I
think
I
did
made
it
very
clear
that
a
utility
tax
would
not
be
acceptable
at
all
that
I
think
our
citizens
are
just
simply
maxed
and
I
think
they
told
us
that
at
the
recent
sales
tax
revenue,
which
should
be
a
pretty
soft
sale,
you
know
schools,
children,
we
all
love,
we
all
love
all
of
that,
but
it
was
voted
down
two
to
one
more
than
two
to
one.
That
was
a
huge.
L
L
What
life
is
really
like
in
a
completely
different
sector
of
our
population,
where
they
are
the
least
among
us,
and
they
cannot
afford
this
utility
tax,
no
matter
how
small
it
may
be
to
most
of
us
how
insignificant
seven
dollars
is
nothing,
but
to
them
it
is,
and
that's
a
getting
to
be
a
very
significant
working,
poor
and
so
on.
They
cannot
afford
any
more
tax.
They
can't
they
can't
afford
to
live
here.
Now
we
talk
about
living
wage,
we
talk
about
minimum
wage,
but
we
never
talk
about.
L
Let's,
let
them
have
some
more
of
their
income
that
they
already
have.
Why
are
we
taking
more
and
more
and
more
in
the
form
of
just
constant
nickel
and
diming?
Having
said
that,
I've
got
a
couple
more
things
and
I
do
have
three
million
in
immediate
cuts:
okay
and
I'm
going
to
run
through
them
really
quick.
L
In
terms
of
the
problem
here
in
the
city
of
bloomington-
yes,
it's
a
very
long-term
problem
nine
months
ago,
six
months
ago
with
all
respect
kevin-
and
I
sorry
but
it's
true-
voted
against
half
a
million
dollars
in
consultants
in
just
a
few
meetings.
That's
where
I've
been
or
tried
to
be.
That's
why
I
voted
against
the
last
two
budgets
because
we
have
exploding.
L
We
have
exploding
spending
here
in
the
city
of
bloomington
and
no
I
want
to
fund
pensions
first,
also,
no
matter
what,
but,
but
after
we
fund
those
pensions,
our
spending
problem,
even
if
we
tax,
if
we
tax
utility
taxes,
we
get
three
million
dollars
extra
a
year
in
two
years,
unless
our
spending
turns
around
we're
going
to
be
back
in
exactly
the
same
problem.
We're
not
fixing
the
problem
by
adding
a
very
regressive
tax
on
the
least
among
us,
we're
not
fixing
anything.
Spending
has
gone
in
2010,
our
general
fund
was
74
million.
L
Forty
thousand
seven
hundred
twenty
one
dollars
and
in
2015
what's
been
proposed,
was
95
million
dollars.
That
is
a
twenty
percent,
almost
increase
in
spending
in
our
general
fund.
That
is
why,
for
two
years,
solid,
I've
said
no
to
the
budget
and
I
put
out
a
budget
position,
and
it
said
our
spending
is
out
of
control.
That's
what's
hurting
our
citizens
and
that's
what's
hurting
our
city
is
an
inability
to
look
at
spending,
and
I
will,
since
we've
had
a
huge
talk
about
specifics.
L
I
will
run
through
if
I
can
still
find
them
my
specifics,
and
here
they
are.
I
would
greatly
appreciate
it
if
we
wouldn't
comment
until
the
end.
Thank
you
so
much
and
I
do
think
by
the
way.
If
we
could
break
and
let
citizens
talk,
it
would
be
great,
but
here
we
go
food,
food
registrations
and
travel
in
the
city.
One
of
our
wonderful
constitutes
took
the
time
and
trouble
to
actually
document
the
checks
250
000
last
year,
and
that
may
not
even
be
all
the
departments.
I
propose
a
moratorium
on
food.
L
I'd
be
happy
to
bring
my
own
food,
no
matter
how
off
how
early
council
comes:
food,
travel
and
registration,
our
administrative
salaries
are
5.5
million
dollars
and
that
doesn't
even
count.
That
does
not
count
the
imrf
pensions,
which
is
another
88
000..
That's
almost
650
000.
When
I
came
to
council,
we
had
three
people
in
administration.
We
now
have
six
seven
was
proposed
one
of
our
long
long,
standing
and
much
appreciated.
L
Deputy
city
managers
is
retiring.
I
propose
a
250
000
reduction
in
administrative
salaries.
I
don't
think
our
citizens
are
going
to
feel
that
our
outside
attorney
we
talked
about
tonight,
options.
We
have
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
union
issues.
250
000,
that's
a
soft
number!
Last
year.
I
don't
think
we're
doing
any
better,
much
different.
I
don't
think
we're
doing
different
than
we
would
be.
We
outsourced
our
negotiations,
get
it
back.
250
000
the
golf
path,
250
000.,
there's
a
million
all
of
our
consultants
and
david
appreciate
your
your
words.
You're.
L
L
L
We
have
both
an
economic
development
person
in
the
city,
doing
a
fabulous
job
and
we
all
love
her.
We
also
fund
edc,
whose
president
I
think
is
here
tonight
that
one
of
those
could
be
up
to
a
hundred
thousand.
We
have
flamingos
at
the
zoo,
150
000.,
I
think
the
other
hundred
thousand
in
the
park
district.
It
could
possibly
be
even
used
for
something
else
at
the
zoo.
I
think
we,
the
zoo,
needs
attention,
no
question
but
flamingos
higher
back
again
130
000.
L
We
need
to
find
who's,
causing
it
make
them
pay
city
property,
the
coachman,
for
instance,
we've
got
lots
of
vacant
city
property.
I
know
you
need
to
study.
Well,
I
don't
think
so.
We
had
a
buyer
for
that
property
and
I
think
you
know
100
000
right
there
we're
funding,
dba,
we
all
love
it.
Eighty
thousand,
we
told
them
several
years
ago,
you're
going
to
have
to
fund
yourself.
L
Now
I
want
to
ask
the
citizens
tomorrow
night
at
my
town
hall:
do
you
want
this?
Maybe
they
do
they
do
fine,
the
rest
funk
grants.
We
all
love
those.
We
got
some
great
things.
50
000
I'm
asking
for
that's
around,
maybe
25
of
it.
We
can
get
back
a
communications
manager
that
we've
already
hired
in
the
city
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
If
we're
going
to
cut
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
we're
going
to
hurt
the
city,
according
to
mr
hales
who's,
frequently
said
that
so
much.
What
are
we
communicating
about?
L
L
Why
can't
we
spend
three
hundred
thousand
of
that
on
infrastructure
we
can,
it
can
be
spent
in
the
neighborhoods.
It
can
be
spent
on
sidewalk
streets,
etcetera.
Now,
I'm
I'm
stopping
that's
three
million
dollars.
I
know
we
do
spend
some
of
it,
but
not
very
much
on
streets,
blah
blah
sidewalks.
I
think
we
should
spend
300
000
of
that.
I
think
we
should
keep
our
grants
to
our
poor
citizens.
L
Excuse
me,
but
those
who
economically
disadvantaged-
and
I
think
that
the
other
two
hundred
thousand
we
can
fund
whatever
we
wish
to,
but
there's
three
million
right
there
and
that's
only
a
start.
I
haven't
even
started
on
my
revenue
enhancements.
I've
got
a
couple
million
in
revenue
enhancements
that
takes
a
little
longer
I'll
admit.
A
A
Did
I
hear
that
correctly?
Okay,
so
I'd
like
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
the
motor
fuel
tax
is
probably
one
that
I'm
a
little
more
tolerant
of
as
far
as
revenue
enhancement.
We've
talked
about
this.
Let
me
come
back
to
that
for
a
second
just,
a
quick
reaction
too.
I'm
less
of
a
fan
of
of
this
consultant
studies.
I
think
we've
just
went
crazy
and
with
all
respect
dave
in
the
last
couple
years,
but
I,
as
I
think
about,
I
thought
it
was.
Seventy
thousand
dollars
don't
hit
me.
A
Seventy
thousand
dollars
for
this
rate
study
I'm
thinking
over
the
last
few
years.
This
council
has
kind
of
challenged
every
year
department
heads
to
kind
of
update
your
fees,
so
I
think
that's
been
ongoing.
I
think
department
heads
ought
to
know
what
other
municipalities
are
charging
for
the
same
types
of
fees
or
whatever
I'm
trying
to
remember
county
board.
Didn't
the
county
board
just
do
a
rate
study.
B
Now
there
may
have
been
a
recent
one
since
I've
been
off,
but
they
did
do
and
they
did
do
a
systematic
analysis
of
it.
It
was
about
that
same
amount
but,
as
I
think,
as
david
had
said,
the
county
board
bought
into
the
idea
that
having
someone
who
who
does
this
for
a
living
kind
of
is
useful
and
then
we
we
use
the
boilerplate,
and
then
the
department
heads
use
that
boilerplate.
You
know
in
the
future.
Okay,
all
right
I'll.
A
I'll
back
down
on
that
a
little
bit
now,
let
me
go
with
this.
As
my
theme
we're
in
april,
we've
got
april
decisions
to
make
and
we've
got
things
that
can
be
made
in
may
june
and
july,
and
we've
got
big
ticket
items
to
really
focus
on
and
smaller
ticket
items
that
we
can
rely
on
the
department
heads.
I
don't
know
what
that
number
is.
I
think
I've
heard
5
10,
20
or
whatever
it
is.
A
A
If
I
heard
him
right,
we
need
to
start
at
the
top
and
look
at
our
high
ticket
items
and
then
drill
down
from
there
and
I'm
not
a
fan
of
spending.
A
lot
of
conversation
on
the
five
ten
twenty
thousand.
I
rely
on
staff,
I'd
rely
on
department,
heads
and
if
somebody
thinks
they
can
generate
enough
interest
to
take
away
a
three
thousand
dollar
thing,
then
so
be
it.
A
Let
them
go
forward,
but
I
don't
know
if
this
makes
any
sense,
but
maybe
a
scorecard
and
its
revenue
and
its
expenses
and
whatever
we
want
to
say,
let's
use
motor
fuel
tax
that
for
every
penny
it
generates
this
much
money
for
every
half
percent
of
a
utility
tax
increase.
It
generates
this
much
money.
A
And
then
on
the
expense
side,
do
the
same
thing?
Do
we
need?
I'm
not.
I
think
this
is
simple,
but
do
we
need
a
little
score
card
between
the
manager
and
the
mayor
and
here's
10
high
ticket
items,
revenue
and
expense?
We
come
in
here
to
the
city
council,
city
hall.
We
meet
with
two
of
you
and
we
show
you
where
our
tolerances
are
and
let
you
sort
that
out.
A
We've
been
talking
about
revenue
tolerances
for
many
months
and
you
know
we've
made
some
of
those
decisions
already
last
summer,
so
we
don't
need
re
regurgitate
that,
but
I
think
that's
where
we
need
to
focus
on
the
high
ticket
revenue,
expense
things
find
out
individually,
raise
our
hands
whatever
you
want
to
do
and
let's,
let's
cut
cut
the
rhetoric
I
mean
respectful,
but
let's
cut
the
conversation.
Let's
really
decide.
Are
you
entering
out
on
this
in
various
forms.
B
A
Okay,
okay,
we'll
cut
down
the
rhetoric
a
lot.
I've
already
prepared
this
in
a
two-page
memo.
Everyone
up
here
has
gotten
it,
but
you
haven't
so
folks.
You're,
just
gonna
have
to
see
it
a
second
time.
I
think
we
have
three
separate
but
interrelated
problems.
The
first
one
is:
we
have
a
current
deficit
this
year
and
it
ranges
from
four
to
eight
million
dollars.
A
A
A
We
have
budgeted
number
three
to
for
the
past
five
years.
We
have
done
no
new
intersections
each
one
when
we
put
up
all
the
stop
lights
and
everything
cost
350
000,
for
whatever
reason
our
council
this
year
decided
that
instead
of
zero
each
of
the
last
five
years,
we
should
do
three
all
in
one
year.
A
A
Under
no
circumstances
am
I
going
to
be
willing
to
vote
for
a
budget
that
takes
four
million
dollars
out
of
a
10
million
dollar
bond,
that's
supposed
to
cover
something
that
we
will
have
for
20
to
30
years
and
use
four
million
dollars
for
an
operating
budget.
That's
simply
not
being
honest
with
our
citizens.
A
A
Number
five:
I
think
the
utility
tax
could
generate
four
million
dollars
or
two
million
dollars
or
three
million
dollars
depending
on.
If
we
want
to
go
the
full
amount
or
not,
we
could
just
use
that
four
million
dollars-
or
we
could
put
it
aside
and
do
a
bond
for
somewhere
in
the
area
of
45
million
dollars
at
today's
interest
rates
at
45
million
could
be
more
or
less
depending
on
whether
we
did
a
10-year
bond,
a
15-year
bond
or
20-year
bond,
but
you're
not
going
to
find
lower
interest
rates
in
our
lifetime.
A
We
could
put
part
of
that
money
in
street
repairs
or
we
could
put
some
of
that
money
in
the
19
million
dollars
a
year
that
we
have
to
make
up
because
previous
city
councils
did
not
take
care
of
all
the
properties
that
we
have.
We
have
deferred
maintenance
according
to
the
city
manager
of
400
million
dollars.
A
A
We
would
allow
ourselves
another
two
to
three
years
to
figure
out
how
to
correct
our
structural
deficit,
and
we
could
put
some
of
it
aside
to
start
taking
care
of
the
deferred
maintenance
that
we
didn't
take
care
of
over
the
last
30
years.
I
don't
want
to
be
on
a
council
that
says
we
balanced
our
budget.
A
A
A
Empirical
evidence
from
my
traveling
back
and
forth
to
urbana
for
the
last
25
years.
I
buy
gas
in
urbana
as
frequently
as
I
buy
it
here,
and
they
have
the
local
motor
fuel
tax.
It
doesn't
really
increase
the
price
at
the
pump
and
if
it
did
increase
it
on
some
occasions,
30
percent
of
that's
paid
by
people,
not
in
our
community.
A
A
Those
are
the
suggestions
that
I
would
like
us
to
consider,
and
I
think
the
bond
issue
is
the
crux
of
the
whole
thing,
because
it
helps
us
solve
all
three
of
our
problems:
the
current
deficit,
the
structural
deficit
and
how
to
start
getting
out
of
this
19
million
dollar
hole.
That's
been
dug
for
us,
I'm
glad
I
wrote
all
this
down
because
I
didn't
take
that
much
time
and
I'm
done.
B
B
A
A
couple
things
and
as
lively
discussion
as
I
expected
it
would
be
a
couple
of
quick
comments.
Back
in
october
of
last
year,
I
did
a
fair
amount
of
research
on
budget
prioritization
reviewed
a
number
of
articles
sent
that
out
to
the
council
for
your
consideration,
because
again
I
I
felt
like
it
was
incumbent
on
me
as
somebody
who's
who's
talked
about
prioritization
for
several
years
here
to
to
see.
If
there
was
not
some
way,
I
could
kind
of
move
the
ball
forward
with
that.
A
A
A
We
have
to
try
to
find
some
ways
to
to
to
get
to
to
a
solution
here
and,
and
so
I'm
going
to
suggest
that
some
of
the
ultimatums
I
even
heard
a
couple
three
weeks
ago
at
different
times
again,
I'm
not
sure.
That's
that's
really
positive
to
move
our
conversation
forward,
so
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
again.
A
I've
been
sitting
over
here
with
the
with
the
the
temporary
one
good
eye
that
I
have
and
looking
at
at
the
budget
proposals
that
you've
you
suggested
david
and
I'm
gonna,
run
down
those
again:
okay,
page
eight,
a
hundred
thirty
thousand
dollars
higher
back
page
six,
three
hundred
and
eighty
five
thousand
dollars
streets
and
facilities,
master
plans,
page
six
and
seven
289
thousand
dollars
in
parks
and
rec
seasonal.
Again.
These
are
these.
These
come
from
david's
proposed
budget
reductions,
I'm
not
yeah!
I'm
not!
You
know
grabbing
these
out
of
thin
air.
A
Hoods
for
the
kitchens
160
000
that
replaces
the
one
retiring
officer
leaves
the
the
two
current
positions
vacant
page
8,
page
11,
150
000,
the
flamingo
exhibit
page
7,
32
000,
that's
police
communication
center.
Over
time
rob
has
mentioned
before
the
traffic
signals,
700
000,
that's
in
the
budget
somewhere.
I
don't
have
time
to
I'm
not
able
to
flip
back
and
forth
between
a
couple
different
cds
over
here,
but
I
know
that's
in
there.
I've
seen
that
and
looking
at
those
that's
a
million
nine
hundred
and
seventy
one
thousand
dollars.
A
A
A
At
this
point,
we're
about
you
know:
500
000,
just
from
from
filling
the
gap
that
we
have
in
the
model,
the
budget
model
d
and-
and
I
I
just
think-
that's
doable.
You
know
with
a
little
bit
more
concerted
effort
from
the
console.
Again
we
own
that
david's,
giving
us
some.
I
think
quality
document
to
look
at
and
review.
A
You
know.
I
would
hope
that
we
can
again
kind
of
work
collectively,
collaboratively
cooperatively.
Those
are
the
only
c
words
I
can
think
of
right
now
to
get
to
that
additional
500,
000
and
and
at
least
address
the
most
pressing
need
the
need
that
we
must
solve
over
the
next
23
days.
So
thanks
terry.
P
P
So
this
isn't
a
long-term
solution,
but
it's
a
solution
for
the
time
being,
but
we
have
got
to
quit.
Kicking
the
can
down
the
road
because
it's
only
going
to
get
worse
with
time
with
all
of
these
cuts
and
deferrals
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
dirty
bathrooms
in
the
parks
we're
going
to
have
empty
flower
pots,
we're
going
to
lose
a
bunch
of
amenities
which
may
very
well
lower
our
bond
rating,
even
more,
which
will
make
it
more
expensive
for
us
to
pay
for
our
road
improvements
and
infrastructure
improvements.
P
L
Thank
you,
I
guess
in
conclusion,
one
of
the
things
I
didn't
make
clear
when
I
talked
about
my
three
million-
and
I
definitely
do
agree
with
some
of
the
other
specifics
that
I've
heard
and
there's
another
there's,
another
million
or
million
and
a
half
is
that
I'm
I
am
frankly,
I'm
not
taking
any
cuts
from
public
safety,
none
from
police.
The
only
thing
I
might
consider
suggesting
with
police
is,
we
have
a
wonderful
pr
officer.
L
It
used
to
be
that
the
desk
sergeants
wrote
the
press
releases
and
such
or
they
talked
to
the
press
and
I'm
not
sure
at
all.
If
that
couldn't
happen
again,
I'm
not
proposing
any
cost
in
public
safety
or
fire
and,
frankly,
I'm
not
on
board
with
the
parks
cuts
that
I
that
I've
seen
I'm
not
on
board
at
all,
with
the
seasonal
cuts
or
with
the
tree,
not
not
planting
the
trees
or
any
of
that.
L
But,
yes,
we
do
need
to
prioritize,
and
when
I
got
all
that
information
on
prioritization,
I
thought
that
was
going
to
be
the
subject
of
the
retreat.
But
what
mostly
I
heard
about
at
the
retreat
was
culture
change
and
I
kept
asking
how
much
is
this
going
to
cost?
But
no
one
seemed
to
know.
Thank
you.
K
Yeah,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
get
behind
what
both
jim
and
dave
sage
said
in
terms
of
getting
down
into
these
details.
Here
of
what
kinds
of
expenses
we
can
put
on
the
table,
I
think
I
think,
whether
it's
a
scorecard
or,
however,
we
manage
that
we
need
to
to
come
up
with
with
a
good
grouping
here,
david
and
the
department
heads
have
done
a
very
good
job
and
I've
heard
some
other
suggestions
here
that
I
could
definitely
get
behind
as
well.
K
At
our
town
hall
meetings,
my
quick
question
for
patty
I've
been
challenged
a
couple
of
times
by
citizens
who
want
to
know
why
our
sales
tax
revenue
has
been
lowered.
I
think
it
was
1.8
million
dollars
more
given
that
in
general
people
you
know
see
more
see
some
more
positive
increase
than
negative
increase.
So
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
that.
Maybe
you
can
talk
about
that
sure.
N
We
revised
the
sales
tax
number
down
based
on.
We
were
watching
it
month
to
month,
and
we
had
thought
when
we
received
november's
numbers.
We
had
bottomed
out
and
they
were
slightly
coming
up,
but
when
december's
numbers
came
in
and
that
was
just
prior
to
normal,
reducing
their
numbers,
we
dug
deeper
and
compared
to
last
december's
numbers
and
they're
on
calendar
year.
So
december,
2012
compared
to
december
2013
in
12,
which
was
our
13
fiscal
year,
was
a
very
stellar
year
for
large
purchases
of
cars
and
furniture.
N
It
does
not
appear
that
those
purchases
are
reoccurring
this
year,
so
we've
lost
quite
a
bit
of
money,
and
so,
if
we
look
at
the
negative
trend-
and
I
just
apply
that
through
the
end
of
this
year
in
good
conscience,
I
really
couldn't
recommend
increasing
or
keeping
flat
our
budgetary
numbers
if
we're
not
meeting
them
this
year
for
next
year.
So
I
did
propose
to
david
a
reduction
of
1.8
million
dollars,
because
if
we
run
out
of
money,
we're
just
going
to
be
hitting
fund
balance
in
the
long
run.
N
N
A
Need
a
minute
bloomington
normal
by
the
numbers
that
the
edc
puts
on
we've
been
going
for
every
quarter.
Several
of
us.
I
think
we
found
out
that
last
year
was
an
extraordinary
year
for
sales
tax
revenue.
We
were
up
like
15.6
percent.
We
were
the
highest
community
in
in
the
state
and
and
now
we're
down
point
two
or
down
one
point
something
so
it
it's
a
decrease
over
an
extraordinary
year,
as
patty
said,
not
a
not
a
real
decrease.
If
you
level
those
out,
we
were
good.
B
Okay
right,
I
do,
I
think
we
do
need
emotions
to
spend
the
rules,
and
I
will
ask
if
you're
thinking,
if
you'd
like
to
say
something:
you're,
not
gonna,
probably
get
more
than
two
minutes
and
I'm
gonna
have
to
be
really
tight.
So
if
we
get
a
motion
to
suspend
the
rules,
I'll
ask
for
a
show
of
hands
of
people,
who'd
like
to
address
the
council
and
weigh
in,
is
there
a
motion
I'll.
B
B
Okay,
one
two,
three
four!
Is
that
correct?
Okay,
do
I
have
someone
in
the
back?
Okay,
five?
Okay,
so,
given
our
time
frame
I'll
give
you
approximately
two
minutes,
I
don't
have
to
be
terribly
draconian
about
it,
but
approximately
two
minutes
and
when
you
come
forward,
would
you
please
ron
schultz?
I
think
you
wanted
to
come
forward
if
you'll
state
your
name
and
address.
B
R
I
have
to
say
that
everybody
seems
to
be
working
really
hard
at
this,
and
I
I
heard
four
or
five
people
come
up
with
different
solutions
and
different
ideas,
and
I
think
they're
great
and
I
understand
your
frustration
mayor,
but
some
of
the
things
I
I'm
concerned
about
is:
why
do
we
not?
Why
don't
the
citizens
pay
for
everything
that
they
get
from
the
city,
for
instance,
and
in
waste?
If
you
produce
waste
you
pay
for,
if
you,
if
you're
given
water,
you
pay
for
it,
how
much
water
you
get?
R
R
If
you
look
at
that
45
million
in
two
and
a
half
percent,
I
don't
know
how
you're
going
to
pay
for
it.
Some
way
you
you'll
have
to
pay
for
it,
whether
it's
utility
tax,
whether
it's
a
property
tax
or
whether
you
take
it
from
even
the
reserves,
we
got,
what
19
million.
Maybe
we
don't
need
19
million.
R
Maybe
we
only
need
15
million
at
any
rate,
I
I
feel
that
the
the
possibility
of
paying
for
a
lot
of
pension
is
going
to
reduce
our
future
outlays
greatly
with
the
help
of
a
45
million
dollars.
We
have
an
awful
lot
of
problems
with
sewers,
water
and
infrastructure
in
this
city.
We
need
help
now.
We
need
good
help
on
that.
By
that
I
mean
we
need
good
materials
for
the
streets
it'll
last
for
almost
as
long
as
the
bond.
I
know
it
won't
last
as
long
but
at
least
close.
R
Another
thing
is:
I'm
a
firm
believer
that
kennedy
and
reagan
had
it
right.
If
you
want
to
attract
people
and
businesses,
you,
you
really
need
to
try
to
reduce
taxes.
If
somebody
comes
to
the
community
and
we're
working
hard
with
the
monies
that
we're
talking
about
here,
we
have
a
pretty
nice
community
comparable
to
normal.
They
will
look
at
bloomington
before
they
look
at
normal
in
other
cities
to
locate
here.
If
our
taxes
are
less.
B
R
B
A
To
fund
the
mclean
county
museum
of
history,
which
has
been
serving
this
community
for
122
years,
we
serve
the
community
by
working
with
school
children.
Blunton
school
children
are
given
free
admission
to
the
museum,
and
this
includes
also
district
87
unit
5
and
parophile,
and
private
schools
over
900
bloomington
students.
These
are
people
who
are
the
sons
and
daughters
of
your
voters
came
to
the
museum
last
year
at
no
charge.
A
The
burden
of
that
extra
cost,
we
are
not
going
to
charge
students
for
that
particular
activity
and
by
the
way
one
of
the
side
benefits
of
the
evergreen
cemetery
discovery
walk
is
that
it
has
been
an
excellent
marketing
program
for
a
cemetery
that
you
guys
own,
and
that
is
being
run
very,
very
well
by
the
trustees
that
you've
put
in
charge
of
it.
The
museum
plays
an
important
role
in
downtown
revitalization.
A
In
their
actual
operating
costs,
we
have
expanded
museum
hours
that
we
pay
for,
so
that
farmers
market
people
can
have
access
to
restrooms
the
basic
need
we
provide
and
also
we
host
numerous
public
events,
political
events
and
a
variety
of
events
on
our
lawn.
We
in
a
sense,
become
in
many
ways
the
free
speech
area
for
your
community.
A
A
Alderman
lauer,
you
talked
about
volunteerism.
There
are
over
160
individuals
who
are
bloomington
citizens
who
volunteer,
who
are
part
core
part
of
the
museum's
volunteer
force.
We
have
240
volunteers
who
provide
17
000
hours
of
service,
so
we
do
understand
the
necessity,
the
utility
of
bringing
volunteers
into
our
program
and
it
works
for
us
quite
well.
So
we
ask
that
you
please
continue
to
fund
our
to
help
us
help
your
citizens.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
B
A
B
S
I
hope
you
understand,
I'm
very
proud
of
our
department.
We
have
a
great
group
of
individuals
who
very
proud
of
what
they
do
every
day
and
they
love
coming
to
work
and
making
the
city
of
bloomington
beautiful
and
they
work
very
hard
at
it.
I'm
very
proud
of
them
we're
making
some
cuts
here
that
I
think
are
going
to
hurt
us
in
the
long
run.
If
we
do.
S
S
S
I
just
had
a
meeting
the
other
day
with
the
dba
they're
wanting
to
do
flowers
around
around
the
square
and
part
of
what
their
problem
was
getting
water
and
how
are
they
going
to
give
water
to
the
flowers?
Okay,
we're
down
there
already
now
doing
the
pots?
Okay,
it
wouldn't
be
any
problem
for
us
to
do
those
plant
beds
down
there,
but
if
we
don't
do
have
seasonals
that
are
going
to
do
the
watering
there's
no
reason
for
us
to
be
down
there.
S
I'm
not
sure
that
something
like
that
would
happen
all
that
beautiful
flowers
and
stuff
we
have
downtown
might
not
be
there.
We're
talking
about
cutting
trees
in
the
fall
300
trees
that
we're
going
to
remove,
whether
it
be
ash
borer
or
in
general.
We
remove
150
to
200
trees,
just
due
to
being
dead,
we're
not
going
to
replace
those
anymore.
Okay
streets
will
start
looking
barren.
The
quality
of
life
is
not
going
to
be
the
same,
the
landscape's
not
going
to
be
the
same
and
the
beauty
of
it's
not
going
to
be
the
same.
S
S
We
need
our
seasonals,
we
we
need
our
flowers,
we
need.
We
need
our
chemicals.
I
haven't
even
got
into
chemicals,
we're
not
we're
not
treating
the
grass
for
for
dandelions
we're,
not
we're
not
putting
fertilizer
on
it
to
grow,
we're
not
putting
stuff
in
our
in
in
our
lakes,
so
we
don't
have
algae
and
that
miller
park.
Doesn't
have
duckweed,
and
so
now
that
it's
finally
up
over
the
levee
for
the
first
time
in
three
years,
you
can
throw
through
your
line
out
there
and
catch
a
fish.
B
E
E
You
have
the
ability
to
do
a
budgetary
amendment
later
this
year
fiscal
year
and
then
maybe
ought
to
have
a
priority
list
for
that
already
in
the
ready
we
got
caught
off
guard
to
some
extent
of
the
sales
tax
decreased
in
town,
normal
in
other
cities
in
the
city,
then
the
state
got
caught
off
guard
with
their
budgetary.
A
lot
of
them
had
to
make
changes
the
street
economic
improvement,
which
is
what
I
kind
of
thought
it
was
going
to
be.
E
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
I
think
mayor
renner
has
mentioned
in
the
open
houses.
How
so
much
dollars
we
invest
in
streets
is
an
economic
boost.
I
want
a
14
million
economic
boost,
the
citizen
involvement
for
this
particular
budgetary
process
I
think,
was
sorely
missed.
I
think
there
was
a
lot
of
opportunities
that
were
not
capitalized
on
I'd
like
to
have
some
clarity
on
the
utility
tax.
E
E
If
that's
true,
then
I
would
consider
your
utility
tax,
a
red
herring,
because
you
could
not
have
got
any
money
from
until
you
filed
later
this
year
and
it
would
not
take
an
effect
on
january
1..
The
trick
in
that
is,
there
are
a
variety
of
subsets
to
the
utility
tax
natural
gas,
so
there
may
be.
I
may
have
missed
every
detail,
but
some
of
those
utility
taxes-
I
do
not
believe
you
would
have
gained
in
this
fiscal
cycle.
Local
motor
funeral
attack
fuel
tax.
E
E
If
you'd
like
to
know
what
that's
all
about
the
higher
back,
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
problems
the
downtown
is
that
we're
not
enforcing
over
serving,
I
think
that's
the
somebody
who
has
worked
in
a
bar
who
has
bounced
people
out
they
were
drunk
over
serving,
is
the
number
one
problem,
and
I
think
the
city
needs
to
address
that
with
the
bar
owners
and
the
bar
owners
need
to
understand
that
and
I'd
like
to
see
full
funding
of
munis
and
I'd
like
to
see
fully
authorized.
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police
officers.
B
A
It
was
nice
to
see
it
get
a
little
testy,
because
that
tells
me
that
you
all
care
when,
when
you
take
a
look
at
a
budget,
you've
got
to
go
from
necessities
down
to
niceties
and-
and
you
all
are
charged
with
with
that
continuum.
There
were
some
real
good
ideas.
Kevin
came
up
with
some
rob
and
jim
and
they
talked
about
what
is
necessary.
You
have
to
prioritize
mr
koos
got
up
here
and
talked
about
the
library.
A
A
I've
been
to
these
meetings
for
seven
or
eight
years,
and
I've
heard
about
prioritization
prioritization
prioritization
and
nothing
really
gets
done.
I
think
it's
time
that
what
everybody
has
said
here
tonight
in
one
way
or
another,
is
to
fish
or
cut
bait.
I
think
all
departments-
and
I
think,
probably
david's
already
done
this-
is
when
they
develop
their
budgets.
A
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
conferences,
it's
the
department,
directors
or
the
assistant
chiefs
that
go,
and
my
question
is:
what
are
the
deliverables
that
come
back
for
those
particular
conferences?
So
I
think
you
need
to
take
a
look
at
that.
You
have
a
tough
job
to
do
you.
Do
it
well,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
being
contentious.
Once
in
a
while
and
saying
I
will,
but
the
bottom
line
is
you've
got
to
have
a
consensus
and
the
consensus
is
from
necessities
down
to
niceties
thanks.
B
F
Thanks
mayor,
let
me
throw
something
out
to
maybe
help
the
council,
because
I
I
want
to
go
back
to
where
we
started
coming
out
of
that
saturday
work
session.
It
seemed
to
me
that
a
very
significant
fiscal
policy
desire
was
to
not
raise
the
utility
tax
rate.
Consequently,
but
you
were
comfortable
with
the
amusement
tax.
Hence
this
budget
balancing
model
d
seemed
to
be
where
the
majority
at
least
was
more
than
willing
to
give
further
consideration.
F
F
F
Let
me
just
throw
out
one
thing,
and
that
is,
it
might
be
helpful
for
me
to
help.
You
is,
if
you
look
at
that
650
or
you
look
at
these
cuts
and
say
which
cuts?
Would
you
adamantly
oppose
such
as
the
downtown
higher
back?
I
think
if
each
of
the
nine
aldermen
were
to
kind
of
provide
that
list
which
cuts?
Do
you
absolutely
don't
want
to
see,
and
you
provide
that
to
us
as
jim
was
talking
about?
F
If
we
see
that
kind
of
cut
consistently
that
say,
the
downtown
higher
back
gets
five
or
more
votes
or
something
like
not
votes.
You
know
indication,
don't
cut
that
the
more
we
can
take
those
specifics.
We
can
see
all
right.
How
can
we
take
that
650
000
and
get
that
back
down
to
zero
by
restoring
those
cuts
that
you
do
not
want
to
see
in
a
final
budget
scenario
I'll
also
throw
one
one
other.
F
F
That
is
going
to
be,
I
think,
our
challenge,
both
staff
helping
you
and
to
cut
together
working
with
the
community
to
see
you
know
what
does?
What
would
the
community
support?
Is
it
continual
cuts?
Is
it
maybe
a
willingness
to
consider
some
revenue
increases,
but
you
know,
I
think,
that's
what
we
can
begin
to
do.
F
F
B
I
F
D
F
I
I
don't
again
on
the
14th,
we'll
have
our
statutory
public
hearing.
I
doubt
that
we
can
be
ready
to
have
you
adopt
the
final
budget,
but
we'll
certainly
do
all
that
we
can
we'll
put
a
placeholder
on
the
budget
so
that
we
can
do
the
public
hearing
and
then
later
that
night,
at
eleven
or
twelve
or
one
a.m.
B
A
F
And
I
would
just
say
in
order
to
accommodate
an
additional
4
million,
we're
going
to
have
to
lay
off
a
lot
of
employees,
and
that
has
been
one
thing.
I've
tried
to
avoid
so
far
to
not
lay
off
any
full-time
employees
but
to
to
restore
4
million.
Now
again,
if
you
want
to
restore
it,
but
you
want
to
recommend
adding
revenue.
But
what
I'm
seeing
from
the
saturday
is
they're,
just
not
the
stomach
the
support
to
add
new
revenue
other
than
the
amusement
tax.
And
if,
if
I'm
rating
you
brian.
B
M
B
L
A
B
I
Now
I,
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
propose
that
we
start
working
on
next
budget.
Next
year's
budget
may
the
first
okay
and
start
to
look
at
those
culture.
Changes
that
you
and
I
have
talked
about,
okay
and
and
start
to
work
towards
changing
the
way
we
do
business
and
the
way
we
think
about
how
we
do
our
jobs
here,
okay,
from
from
right
from
the
from
the
grassroots
level
right
up
to
you,
okay,
I.
B
I
I
think
you
know
I
I'm
not
on
board
with
with
using
the
four
million
dollars
and
not
putting
it
back
right
away,
and
so
I'm
I'm
I'm
with
you
on
that
part
of
it.
I
think
we
need
to
start
right
away,
we're
probably
a
half
a
year
too
late.
As
far
as
I'm
concerned,
we
should
have
done
this
nine
months
ago,
but
we've
got
what
we've
got
and
we've
gotta
play
catch
up
here
a
little
bit
and
I
think
we
need
to
get
at
it.
Okay,.