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September 17, 2018 - Committee of the Whole City Council Meeting
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A
A
A
C
D
Been
criticized
lately
for
not
living
up
to
my
civic
responsibilities.
So
here
we
go
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
Coliseum
tonight
and
I
asked
Maria
earlier.
It
would
be
nice
if
the
city
would
release
at
the
same
time
as
those
operating
costs
are
reported
to
also
make
available
toll
costs
at
the
Coliseum.
You
know,
including
the
bonds,
the
capital
improvements
to
replace
my
cause,
whatever
that
might
be
I've
got
a
bunch
of
these
going
through
here.
The
water
and
sewer
insurance.
D
If
that
was
being
presented
whenever
that
was
week
or
two
at
home,
I
believe
the
gentleman
said
that
that
would
end
up
within
that
decrease
in
labor.
There
would
be
an
initial
set
up
time
and
some
confusion
time
to
set
up
those
records,
but
after
that,
that
would
act
actually
end
up
being
a
reduction
in
that
time.
Yet
once
again,
the
city
arbitrarily
I
realized
it
hasn't
passed
yet,
but
he
just
picked
a
number
out
of
the
sky
said
ten
percent.
Let's
just
add
a
10
percent
feat
of
that
it
could
be.
D
D
D
Its
Bloomington
amusement
tax,
three
dollars
and
80
cents
and
at
the
same
time,
there's
still
that
franchise
fee
and
the
mayor
and
I
had
a
difference
of
opinion
a
few
years
ago
as
to
whether
or
not
a
franchise
fee
was
in
fact
a
tax
I
believe
it
is
the
mayor,
thought
otherwise,
but
that's
neither
here
or
there,
but
anyway
there's
8
dollars
and
55
cents
for
the
privilege
of
having
television
and
Internet.
What
else
we
got
here.
A
C
E
A
A
F
You
very
much
Thank
You.
Mr.
mayor,
ladies
gentlemen,
thank
you
for
having
us.
I
am
here
to
present
the
fiscal
year.
18
annual
report
for
the
Grossinger
Motors
Arena
I
know
that
all
of
you
received
the
report
in
full,
so
I'm
only
going
to
cover
a
few
things
that
I
wanted
to
point
out
in
the
entire
report.
F
I
think
the
explanations
within
the
report
are
fairly
robust,
but
I
will,
of
course,
be
available
for
questions
and
I
have
to
wear
glasses
now
so
I'm
going
to
put
my
glasses
on
and
finish
up
a
few
things
here.
One
of
the
things
that
we
look
at
in
the
overall
report
is
the
ability
to
drive
revenue
to
the
arena
and
revenues
really
in
our
business
are
about
attendance,
and
lack
of
attendance
is
really
the
difficult
thing
that
we
faced
last
year.
Attendance
was
down
across
the
board.
F
Number
of
events
was
very
similar
to
the
previous
fiscal
year,
but
overall,
our
number
of
bodies
in
the
building
was
not
up
to
where
we
expected
or
what
we
would
hope
to
have
reached,
and
that
definitely
affects
us
in
mostly
in
food
and
beverage
revenue
facility
fees.
The
things
that
you
can
count
on
when
someone
purchases
a
ticket
to
come
to
the
arena
we
did
really
well
with
family
shows
our
family
shows
did
great
families
that
came
to
those
shows
had
such
a
great
experience.
F
Our
Illinois
high
school
events
are
always
very
popular
in
the
attendance
for
all
of
those
events
continues
to
increase
year
after
year.
In
fact,
the
cheerleading
event
has
split
up
their
Friday
into
two
separate
events,
because
there
were
so
many
people
that
wanted
to
attend.
They
were
encroaching
on
each
other's
ability
to
see
the
kids
perform,
so
that
was
a
big
benefit
for
us
as
well.
This
year
we
did
have
the
naming
rights
contract
signed
during
fiscal
year
18.
F
So
that
was
another
big
thing
that
we
were
able
to
take
care
of
during
that
year,
and
that
was
a
benefit
to
us
and
ways
of
sponsorship
funds
as
far
as
the
overall
revenue,
of
course,
that
is
not
even
close
to
where
we
expected
to
be
revenues
were
very
tough
for
us
last
year.
On
the
other
side,
the
expenses
we
held
back
as
best
we
could
we
kept
expenses
down.
We
kept
making
sure,
as
we
were,
building
events
that
we
were
bringing
in
the
right
number
of
people.
F
We
made
sure
that
all
of
the
expenditures
that
we
were
using
during
those
events
were
on
par
for
what
we
were
expecting
to
have
in
attendance,
and
we
tried
very
hard
to
keep
those
expenditures
as
clean
as
possible.
We
did
have
some
bigger
expenditures.
Last
year
the
dasher
boards
were
installed,
so
we
had
a
lot
of
expenditures
related
to
that
during
the
season
we
did
have
some.
F
But
the
overall,
like
aesthetic
of
the
arena
is
greatly
improved
and
if
any
of
you
have
been
to
the
arena
since
those
Dasher
boards
were
installed
last
December,
it
looks
great
and
just
as
a
side
note,
the
new
LED
lighting
that
went
in
over
the
seating
area
this
past
summer
makes
it
look
even
better,
so
hopefully
you'll
get
the
chance
to
come
out
and
see
that
during
the
hockey
season
this
year.
Overall,
you
know
concessions
and
equipment.
We're
continually
battling
some
of
the
older
equipment.
F
As
far
as
repair
costs
goes,
we
did
spend
quite
a
bit
in
concession,
equipment,
repairs
this
year
or
fiscal
18,
I
should
say,
and
we
will
continue
to
review
each
of
those
peices
equipment
when
the
cost
of
the
repair
is
in
a
you
know,
huger
percentage
of
the
total
than
it
would
be
to
replace
it.
We
are
using
operating
funds
to
replace
that
equipment
as
needed,
so
we
are
keeping
very
close
tabs
on
any
other
expenditures
for
repairs
for
all
of
that
equipment,
as
well
as
far
as
the
variance
to
the
budget.
F
Obviously,
as
I
noted,
the
reason
why
we
fell
short
was
really
the
attendance,
but
keeping
in
mind
that
this
particular
budget
was
built
during
fiscal
year,
16
or
17,
so
late
fall
of
16
and
then
you
works
had
really
only
been
operating
the
building
for
a
few
months
and
of
those
months.
Several
of
them
were
summer
months,
where
there
wasn't
any
activity
in
the
building,
so
their
base
of
knowledge,
with
strictly
previous
information
given
to
them
and
other
buildings
that
they
operate,
that
are
of
similar
size
and
similar
markets.
F
So
that
was
where
those
numbers
came
from.
They
were
not
accurate
and
we
can't
go
back
and
change
that,
but
we
can
look
forward
as
we
look
to
19.
Having
had
that
full
year
of
experience
in
the
building
our
fiscal
year,
19
budget,
we
are
really
confident,
is
more
accurate
and
we
will
be
attainable.
It
will
be
attainable
for
us.
F
Let's
see
one
of
the
questions
that
we've
had
overall
is
advertising
per
events,
and
just
to
give
you
an
idea,
we
do
spend
quite
a
bit
in
advertising.
We
spent
over
130,000
dollars
advertising
the
non-game
event
so
now
in
sporting
events
in
the
building,
so
that
was
11
events.
130
thousand
dollars
was
spent
that
doesn't
include
the
promotional
and
ticket
giveaways
I
mentioned
for
ticket
giveaways.
F
So
on
top
of
that,
there
was
about
another
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
free
advertising
that
we
received,
as
we
were,
purchasing
the
advertising
on
the
radio
stations
and
television
stations
and
newspapers.
So
that
is
the
number
that
I
thought
was
important
to
share
with
you.
We
do
have
quite
a
big
social
media
following
and
as
people
are
becoming
more
and
more
digital.
These
days,
we
do
share
all
of
our
information
on
all
of
our
social
media
channels,
and
we
do
have
a
database
of
people.
F
Who've
subscribed,
meaning
that
they
asked
us
to
send
them
information
of
all
over
80
thousand
people.
So
we
do
get
the
message
out
for
every
event
that
we
booked
at
the
arena
and
then
finally,
this
wanted
to
share.
You
know
hockey
in
football,
they
do
their
own
advertising,
it
doesn't
come
out
of
our
budget,
but
they
are
responsible
to
do
advertising.
So
we
are
carefully
monitoring
those
advertising
expenditures
as
well
and,
finally,
looking
ahead
to
fiscal
year,
19,
we
have
quite
a
big
lineup
getting
started.
F
That's
the
list
of
people
that
our
shows
that
are
currently
on
sale.
We
have
three
other
new
shows
that
are
contracted
and
ready
to
be
announced
in
the
next
30
days
and
we're
certainly
seeking
additional
events
as
well,
and
as
of
this
moment,
we
are
currently
ahead
of
budget
for
fiscal
year
19
and
we
hope
to
continue
that
trend.
C
G
F
Nope
I
mean
we
did
notice
that
obviously
we
had
lower
attendance
that
some
of
our
concerts
than
we
anticipated.
We,
you
know,
we
look
at
a
concert.
We
look
at
what
we
think
we
can
book
as
far
as
what
we
think
the
number
of
tickets
that
would
be
sold.
We
didn't
reach
all
those
goals
at
all
of
those
shows.
We
do
have
you
know
the
football
team
games
that
didn't
play
during
fiscal
year,
18
those
were
counted
during
that
fiscal
year
as
revenue
that
we
did
not
realize.
F
And
we
try
it.
You
know
every
time
you
book
a
show,
it's
it's
sort
of
you're
you're.
Looking
at
other
venues,
what
they've
drawn
as
far
as
attendance.
You
look
at
your
market.
What
you
think
you
can
draw
and
you
take
a
guess
at
what
you're
going
to
get
and
sometimes
you
hit
it,
and
sometimes
you
don't
a
lot
of
times
we
didn't
last
year.
Sometimes
you
exceed
them
and,
and
you
know
we
try
to
exceed
them
every
single
time.
Thank
you
all.
E
F
F
Expectations
when,
when
venue
works,
first
came
into
the
market,
they
brought
with
them
someone
who
was
very
specialized
and
very
successful
in
sponsorship
sales,
so
I
think
they
thought
the
previous
person
that
person's
previous
experience
would
carry
over
into
this
market.
I
think
we
faced
some
challenges
with
the
building
unexpectedly
and
that
kind
of
turned
that
number
a
little
negative
for
us.
So
we
did
not
meet
those
expectations.
I'm.
E
Also
I,
some
time
to
time,
I
get
comments
and
questions
about
whether
we're
going
after
sort
of
edgy
or
concerts,
I
guess:
I
call
them
EDM
hip-hop.
That
kind
of
thing
that
they're
going
to
draw
in
a
younger
crowd
and
a
larger
crowd.
What
I
and
I
I
think
at
some
point
before
your
tenure,
we
we
decided,
we
weren't
going
to
do
anymore,
EDM
concerts,
but
I'm
wondering
where
are
we
with
that?
Because
I
do
get
that
question
I.
F
Think
that
message
that
there
was
a
reluctance
to
have
those
shows
kind
of
filtered
out
to
the
community
of
promoters
at
large,
and
we've
tried
to
turn
that
back
around.
So
we
are
currently
pursuing
some
urban
hip-hop
and
EDM
concerts,
in
fact,
Lindsey
Stirling.
If
you're
not
familiar
with
her,
she
is
a
classical
violinist
who
does
EDM
music.
So
you
will
be
very
intrigued
to
maybe
look
at
a
video
of
hers
and
see
what
kind
of
music
she
will
be
performing.
It's
gonna
be
a
very
great
show
with
her
new
crew
as
well.
F
F
If
you
could
remind
us
in
terms
of
FY
19
what
your
productions
are
in
terms
of
profit
or
loss,
we
were
projected
to
lose
approximately
four
hundred
ninety
five
thousand
dollars
in
fiscal
year.
Nineteen,
okay,
so
a
question
I've
asked
often
and
are
we're
still
looking
for
an
answer,
and
some
of
that
is
because
you're
new.
This
is
what
our
reasonable
expectations
for
this
facility
in
terms
of
profit
and
loss.
So
we
can
grapple
with
what
that
means.
Sure.
So,
I
think
and
I've
discussed
this
with
the
finance
department
here
as
well.
F
I
think
that
range
of
approximately
$500,000
is
going
to
be
an
average
I,
think
that's
probably
where
this
building
will
fall
even
at
its
most
successful.
You
know,
it'll
still
probably
come
in
at
somewhat
of
a
loss.
I
know
that's
not
great
news
to
hear,
but
there
is
a
very
large
arena
that
brings
in
people
from
all
over
the
region.
F
In
fact,
some
of
the
events
that
we're
seeking
this
year
and
next
year
and
even
into
2020
are
regional
sporting
events
that
will
last
many
you
know
sometimes
up
to
a
week
long
event,
so
that
there
will
be
ancillary
revenue
that
will
be
spent
in
Bloomington
at
the
hotels
and
restaurants.
You
know
the
economic
impact
of
having
those
longer-term
events
or
even
a
weekend
event,
which
we've
been
doing
more
recently
with
just
the
youth
sports
teams.
F
The
youth
hockey
teams
have
been
looking
to
book
and
have
booked
both
with
us
last
year
in
this
Cup
coming
year,
two
and
three-day
tournaments
that
they
will
be
bringing
in
regional
teams
and
the
families
will
come
and
stay
in
Bloomington
I.
Think
you
raise
an
interesting
point
there,
which
is
that
different
events
have
a
different
level
of
economic
impact
in
the
community.
F
Will
there
be
some
consideration,
as
you
are
booking
events,
to
try
to
find
those
that
will
have
a
longer-term
impact,
such
as
a
sporting
events
where
people
are
not
just
coming
for
an
evening,
but
perhaps
going
for
a
weekend
and
eating
at
a
restaurant,
sustaining
our
hotels
and
things
like
that?
Yes
and
I
think
if
you
see
in
the
report,
you'll
notice
our
Ticketmaster
report
for
those
events
that
are
not
just
the
local
sporting
events
shows
that
we
do
draw
quite
a
bit
of
interest
from
outside
the
local
market.
F
We
do
sell
tickets
to
over
50%
of
our
fans
that
come
to
those
shows
outside
of
McLean
County.
So
those
who
come
from
an
hour
an
hour
and
a
half
away
to
come
to
those
events
generally
will
come
early
and
stay
longer
and
perhaps
stay
overnight.
We
did
the
beer
and
bacon
festival
last
year
and
that
you
know
you
know
you're
going
to
have
people
coming
and
having
some
alcohol
and
then
staying
overnight.
I
How
would
you
say
micromanaging,
you
know
what
what
people
do,
but
given
the
kinds
of
questions
that
I
that
I
see
people
asking
and
asking
about
some
of
the
shows
so
I
I
at
this
point
I've
yet
to
to
understand
what
venue
works
feels
is
the
niche
you
know
for
this
market
and
and
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
to
understand
because
I've
seen
some
shows
like
Kenny
Rogers,
great
guy,
but
I.
Wouldn't
brown
brought
him
here.
You
know
it's
really
nice
great
career,
but
I
could
tell
from
the
get-go
I
was
like.
I
This
is
not
gonna
work
out.
You
know
so
I
am
wondering
you
know
how
those
sort
of
decisions
are
made
I
the
way
I
personally
see
this
venue.
You
know
oftentimes,
at
least
in
my
experience,
working
with
speakers
and
things
like
that
and
I
realize
arenas
are
a
little
bit
different
and
performance.
But
you
know
the
the
best
value
for
your
money
is
the
the
up-and-comer
because
they
haven't
been
fully
discovered
yet
they're
they're
considered
exciting.
I
F
Right
so
every
event
that
we
booked,
we
do
what
we
call
a
risk
assessment,
we
look
at
the
performer,
the
performer
and
what
they
have,
what
they
have
posted
as
results
in
their
most
recent
concerts.
So
we
take
a
look
at
their
shows
in
markets
similar
to
ours
that
we
look
at
any
of
their
shows
that
they've
done
previously,
we
look
at
what
their
costs
are.
Are
they
coming
in
with
a
huge
stage
show?
F
Is
it
going
to
cost
us
a
lot
on
the
you
know
on
the
front
end
for
stagehands
to
come
and
load
their
show
in
and
take
it
back
out.
You
know
some
shows
come
in
with
eight
or
ten
truckloads
of
equipment.
Some
shows
come
in
with
one
or
two,
so
those
expenses
are
always
built
into
that
equation.
When
we're
looking
at
whether
or
not
we
think
this
show
will
make
money,
then
when
you
add
the
you
know
the
number
of
tickets,
you
expect
they've
done
past
performance
and
you
look
at
the
show
itself.
F
F
That
he
was
doing
a
holiday
show
we
were
looking
for
something
that
would
bring
in
some.
You
know
the
you
know
the
holiday
spirit
to
the
arena
and
we
thought
maybe
we
could
get
him
on
his
last
leg
of
his
tour.
On
the
other
hand,
like
you
said,
there's
some
up
and
comers
that
are
going
to
be
doing.
You
know
shows,
and
you
have
to
take
a
shot
at
them,
not
knowing
a
lot
of
their
past
performance
history.
F
They
maybe
have
been
an
opening
act
for
another
performer
and
you
kind
of
have
to
guess
at
how
many
of
those
tickets
were
sold
simply
because
it
was
their
show
and
and
not
just
the
main
main
performer
Cain
Browne
is
a
perfect
example
of
someone
who's
been
on
the
road
with
other
acts
and
now
he's
on
his
own
tour
and
we're
taking
a
chance
on
him.
February
28,
all.
J
J
One
of
the
pieces
that
are
always
trouble
thing
about
this
conversation
is
that
it's
very
scary,
number
four
hundred
thousand
five
hundred
thousand,
but
but
that's
taking
only
one
look
at
the
economic
impact
of
the
building
and
the
CVB
is
here.
We
talk
about
heads
and
beds
and
all
the
different
things
that
go
along
with
it
and
getting
that
cost
is
difficult
to
maintain.
But
I
can
tell
you
having
been
the
beer,
bacon
and
bourbon
festival.
That
was
a
that
was
I
mean
there
was
a
line
out
the
door.
J
J
Perhaps
we
do
these
conversations
more
frequently,
so
we
get
a
better
understanding
of
these
numbers
because
we
get
questions
all
the
time
throughout
the
community
and
it
always
helps
them
have
a
better
under
standing
of
what's
going
on
and
it's
easy
to
score
cheap
political
points
by
being
angry
at
the
arena.
But
ultimately
we
all
want
to
see
it
be
successful
because
it
doesn't
help
us
to
be
going
after
our
major
expense
in
our
community.
So
I
want
to
see
it
be
successful.
J
J
K
You
then,
thanks
for
the
honesty,
I
think
that
you're
the
first
person
that
ever
present
that
said
that
the
realistic
projection
is
that
this
building
is
not
going
to
break
even
and
I.
Think
that
it's
you
know
that's
not
coming
as
a
surprise
to
anybody,
and
but
now
we,
if
we
have
an
honest
piece
of
information,
we
can
use
that
to
make
educated
decisions.
Based
on
that.
So
I
appreciate
that
and
I
Tim
I
do
agree.
That
Gary
made
a
good
point
during
public
comment.
K
That
I
would
like
to
see
all
the
numbers
compiled
at
a
single
time
as
well
as
probably
it
would
be
good
to
see
projections
for
future
repairs
that
we
know
are
coming
up
as
well.
Again.
Information
makes
educated
decisions
right.
You
know
the
one
thing,
though
you
said
earlier,
as
you
said,
that
the
number
of
events
that
we
had
this
year
was
very
similar
to
the
previous
year.
We
just
had
lower
attendance.
K
It
sticks
in
my
mind
that
last
year
the
number
one
concern
that
everybody
was
saying
is:
what
are
we
going
to
do
to
have
more
events,
because
last
year
we
were
saying
we
weren't
happy
with
the
number
of
events,
and
then
we
went
through
another
entire
cycle
where
we
had
the
same
number
of
it.
So
if
we
weren't
happy
last
year
that
I'm,
assuming
that
makes
us
not
happy
with
the
number
of
events,
this
last
year's
I'm.
F
With
you,
we
are
not
happy
either
and
we
have
been
knocking
on
the
doors
and,
unfortunately,
right
after
we
took
over
the
arena
here,
champagne
opened
the
in
champaign-urbana.
Their
new
basketball
arena
is
about
four
thousand
seats
more
than
we
can
hold,
and
they
forgot
all
the
amenities
that
we've
got
and
so
that
added
another
piece
to
the
market
that
we
didn't
have
information
on
when
we
first
got
started.
I,
certainly
don't
know
what
the
discussion
was
at
that
time,
but
I
do
know.
Peoria
has
always
been
a
player
in
this
market.
F
K
F
Think
we
certainly
have
given
each
other
leads
and
I
know
that
the
BCP,
a
book
to
show
of
any
work
show
in
fact,
because
we
had
the
ability
to
send
a
lead
over
that
direction
and
they
were
able
to
book
a
holiday
show
through
venue
works
theatrical.
So
we
are
on
the
phone
talking
back
and
forth.
Amory
and
I
are
always
talking
to
each
other
about
what
we're
booking,
what
they're
booking.
F
Whenever
something
comes
to
us,
that
might
not
be
big
enough
that
you
know
they're
looking
for
something
to
be
cut
down
and
we're
looking
for
a
place
to
be
able
to
move
that
show
they're.
Always
our
first
call
because
we'd
like
it
to
stay
in
town.
If
we
can,
you
know
castle
theater,
that's
the
same
same
thing,
they're
looking
at
those
shows
that
are
growing
and
anything
that
they
grow
to
the
point
where
we
would
be
able
to
see
I.
Think
really.
F
2500
seats
is
about
the
smallest
that
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
book,
because
the
cost
of
having
the
stage
hands
and
all
the
ancillary
stuff
that
you
need
to
have
to
have
a
really
good
event
is
more
expensive
than
it
would
be
at
the
castle
theater.
So
we're
always
in
communication
with
each
other
and
trying
to
help
each
other
out.
Do.
K
I
mean
do
we
have
a
better
forecast
for
a
number
of
events
and
things
looking
for
the
next
year,
yeah
I
mean
obviously
you've
shown
us
that
you've
got
four
things
already
signed
up,
you
know,
but
where
are
you
doing
a
bacon
beer
fest
again
do
we
have
you
know
this
is
the
forecast
for
this
season
right,
because
the
winter
time
is
the
biggest
part?
Is
there?
Is
there
looking
good
I.
K
F
Think
the
relationships
are
being
much
better,
I
think
our
relationship
with
both
the
hockey
team,
the
football
team,
has
been
great
this
year.
I
think
that
they're
very
excited
and
very
happy
to
have
the
upgrades
that
they
were
able
to
get
for
the
arena
themselves.
The
football
team,
you
know,
moved
their
games
to
this
summer
where
they
played
you
know
their
six
games
season
during
the
summer
months
and
hopefully
we'll
get
them
back
under
contract
and
working
ahead
towards
their
spring
season.
Okay,.
A
B
A
F
Of
the
things
that
alderman
Matthew
just
said,
but
we're
looking
at
a
portion
of
the
Colosseum's
overall
economic
impact
on
our
community
at
this
moment
in
terms
of
cost
I'll
just
focus
on
cost
for
a
moment
and
the
one
area
we're
not
talking
about
yet
is
capital
improvements.
We
know
it's
an
aging
facility
and
I
assume
that
there
will
be
investments
on
the
horizon.
I
think
it
would
be
nice
as
a
council
to
get
a
handle
on
what
those
might
look
like.
F
F
Genomic
impact
is
a
very
significant
way
to
measure
that,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
able
to
look
at
that
and
say
here
are
financial
liabilities
here
the
benefits
we'll
get
and
make
informed
decisions
based
on
that,
because
we
haven't
been
able
to
do
that,
and
so
I
appreciate
you
being
very
frank
with
us
this
evening
about
the
financial
realities
of
both
the
profit
loss
and
the
economic
impact.
So
we
can
start
looking
at
this
and
saying.
F
L
F
For
asking
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
share
what
it's
going
to
probably
be
one
of
the
funnest
events
that
we'll
do
this
winter
hairball
is
a
cover
band
and
they
cover
the
hair
bands
from
the
80s
and
90s.
So
all
of
the
you
know
Poisson
and
Led
Zeppelin
and
they
play
they
have
two
lead
singers.
The
band
stays
on
stage
the
entire
time,
the
lead
singers
alternate
and
they
perform
the
personas
of
all
of
the
lead
singers
of
these
bands.
F
A
M
M
Have
images
of
Scott
and
Jamie
camped
out
over
there
the
night
before
to
get
tickets?
So
in
just
a
couple
things
that
Jamie
said,
because
because
I
think
you
know
you
raised
a
couple
good
points,
Jamie
one
of
them
was
that
I
know
when
venue
works
came
in.
We
had
a
very
frank
and
candid
conversation,
and
you
know
a
couple
years
ago
whenever
that
that
happened,
that
there
would
be
losses
and
there
would
be
significant
six
figure
losses
each
year
now
the
number
I
recall
was
something
in
probably
in
the
range
of
$300,000
a
year.
M
So
it's
not
can
I
just
share
that
from-from
kind
of
a
continuity
perspective.
Is
it
shouldn't
be
a
surprise
to
anybody
on
the
console
that
was
here
when
vineya
works
took
over
because
those
were
those
were
clearly
announced
and
clearly
shared
and
and
the
other
thing
and
Jamie
I
know
I've
thought
the
same
thing
through
the
years.
That
is
the
number
of
events
we
I've
seen
this
cycle
go
through
a
couple
times
where
we
said.
We
would
like
to
see
your
events
over
there
all
the
time
we
want
to
see
the
place
lit
up.
M
Every
night,
because
you
know
people
drive
by
and
it's
dark
and
it's
losing
money,
and
and
at
least
when
I,
when
I
observe
during
that
time,
was
that
that
that
rarely
led
to
profitability,
because
by
the
time
you
figured
in
the
overhead
and
staff
cost
and
everything
else
for
a
number
of
events
there
may
or
may
not
generate.
You
know
appropriate
revenue
and
and
I've
seen.
M
F
Certainly
people
utilizing
that
facility
and
and
for
the
community
of
the
community
I
think
it's
important
to
know
that
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
that.
They'd
be
traveling
to
Peoria
or
to
Champaign
or
to
Danville
to
get
that
ice
time
that
they
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
get
here.
So
I
think
that,
even
though
it
may
not
be
publicly,
you
know
seen
that
there
is
certainly
a
lot
of
activity
going
on
over
at
the
area.
All
the
time
all.
N
You
mayor
and
Thank
You
Lynn,
like
others
they've
mentioned
I,
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
approach.
I
appreciate
the
approach
that
you
take
to
the
arena
and
your
focus
on
solutions
and
I
shared
with
you
privately,
but
I'd
like
to
share
publicly
that
I've
heard
just
so
many
positive
remarks
about
this
year's
back-to-school
alliance,
backpack,
giveaway
event
and
I
think
that
you
they
just
blew
away
the
numbers
this
year.
It.
N
And
thousands
of
families
attended
that
event
than
just
great
great
accommodations
provided
by
your
group,
so
I
appreciate
it.
You
included
a
page
here
on
community
involvement,
and
so
some
of
my
questions
will
kind
of
circle
around
that,
and
you
just
talked
about
dark
days.
We've
talked
a
little
bit
about
that
and
that
after
April
we
have
more
dark
days,
then
perhaps
at
other
times.
So
could
you
just
refresh
us
or
talk
us
through
how
dark
days
are
handled?
So
let's
say
how
may
what
is?
F
So
we
did
something
different
last
year.
Normally,
once
the
hockey
team
finishes
their
season
and
hopefully
that's
extended,
playoff
run,
but
sometime
in
April,
they
generally
finish
their
season,
and
then
we
would
take
the
ice
out
because
the
cost
of
keeping
ice
in
with
the
refrigeration
and
the
ice
plant
running
all
the
time
is
expensive.
It's
not
a
cheap
thing
to
do.
We
wouldn't
be
able
to
fill
it
with.
You
know
the
hockey
teams
take
a
break
as
well.
F
F
We
are
looking
as
as
best
we
can
for
other
events,
those
for
example,
the
Jehovah's
Witness
convention
that
is
too
full
weekends,
every
June,
sometimes
or
late
May
or
early
July,
depending
on
where
it
falls
into
the
calendar
of
you
know
multiple
groups
of
people
coming
into
the
community.
For
that
event,
last
summer
the
hockey
team
themselves
decided
to
hold
their
tryout
camp
here
in
Bloomington.
F
So
they
brought
people
in
from
all
over
the
country,
even
from
Europe
to
this
town
to
try
out
for
their
team,
and
there
were
150
kids
that
came
with
their
families.
A
lot
of
them
brought
extended
family
and
they
came
for
a
five-day
training,
camp
and
tryout
camp
it
at
the
arena.
So
we
did
keep
the
ice
in
longer
last
spring
and
we
did
rent
it
out
to
the
community
groups
and
we
communicated
that
you
know
through
the
normal
channels
that
we
have
with
all
of
the
youth
hockey
leagues
and
we
told
them.
N
F
Recently
and
right
now,
we
are
trying
to
determine
how
to
get
non
ticketed
events
right
now.
Our
calendar
is
driven
by
our
ticketing
system,
it
populates
so
that
you
can
link
to
when
you
click
on
the
event
on
the
calendar.
It
clinked,
it
clicks
you
right
through
to
buy
tickets.
So
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
to
be
able
to
put
non
ticketed
events
on
there.
So,
at
one
glance
you
can
look
at
a
calendar
page
and
see
you
know
in
the
month
of
June.
F
C
F
K
F
F
Mean
we
our
website,
all
of
our
email
addresses
are
listed.
I
will
certainly
take
that
information,
and-
and
you
know
we
would
love
to
know.
I
would
always
love
to
hear
from
our
our
residents
and
people
who
are
interested
in
having
events
here.
The
more
information
we
have,
the
better
off
we'll
serve
the
people.
Okay,.
A
You
one
of
the
things
that
have
been
alluded
to
by
several
aldermen
up
here
is
that
we're
not
including
direct
in
terms
of
hard
numbers
is
the
economic
impact
upon
the
the
community
and
in
others
a
little
bit
of
tracking
on
the
convention.
Visitors
Bureau,
but
it's
even
more
than
that.
So
we're
all
we're
looking
at
in
a
sense,
cost
and
benefits
on
the
ledger.
But
there's
another
ledger
that
we're
not
really
we
don't
have
a
good
handle
on
and
I
can.
A
I
would
like
to
talk
to
the
chamber
and
some
others,
and
maybe
perhaps
the
econ
Department
at
iw.
Is
you
see
if
we
could
find
some
better
measures
of
the
the
economic
impact
upon
our
community
and
I've,
seen
lots
of
numbers
thrown
around
when
I'm
talking
about
numbers
that
are
hard
numbers
and
anyway?
So
the
one
question
I
have,
though,
is
with
respect
to
combined
ticketing?
Has
there's
been
some
discussion
in
the
past?
Is
there
any
possibility
of
combined
ticketing
with
the
BC
PA?
We.
F
F
A
P
Thank
You
mayor
just
an
update
on
upcoming
agenda
items,
September
24th,
the
next
council
meeting.
You
will
have
an
agenda
item
for
administrative
court
ordinances
ordinance,
it
will
address
chronic
offenders
will
come
before
council,
then
on
October
1st
there's
going
to
be
a
work
session.
This
is
not
a
council
meeting,
but
there's
going
to
be
a
work
session
to
discuss,
prefer
proposed
zoning
amendments,
and
this
is
led
by
the
Community
Development
Department,
and
it's
going
to
kick
off
a
timeline
of
events
that
that
department
has
been
working
on
for
about
three
years.
P
Regarding
some
of
our
zoning
amendments
going
to
be
quite
a
few
public
discussions,
but
this
will
be
the
kickoff
on
October
1st
October
8th.
The
council
meeting
will
be
three
items
that
we
have
on
the
docket
for
now:
business:
registration,
ordinance
that
will
come
forward
by
the
Community,
Development,
Department
and
others,
and
then
also
on
that
topic.
The
story
is
on
the
IT
side,
the
ability
to
sign
up
register
through
an
app
and
also
make
payment,
and
that
will
lend
itself
to
other
areas
of
you
know:
service
within
the
city
as
well.
For
residents.
P
G
P
Not
at
all,
this
is
somewhat
unique
on
this
zoning
task
that
staff
have
been
working
on
for
over
three
years,
I
believe
it's
representatives
from
the
firm
that
was
hired
to
assist
how's
the
olivine.
That's
when
they're
going
to
come
down
and
have
this
public
meeting.
So
it's
not
a
special
meeting,
no
action
required
by
the
council,
but
just
open
this
up
for
a
very
public
discussion
about
some
of
the
proposed
changes.
C
A
At
this
point,
we
move
on
to
Wow
I
think
these
are
all
of
them
all
of
them
blacks,
and
we
have
up
to
three
minutes
for
to
summarize
the
initiative
and
in
a
five
minute
council
discussion
on
each
to
see.
If
the
end,
the
question
is
really-
maybe
even
questioning
in
this
case
all
them
in
black.
Bringing
these
about
the
initiative.
Do
we
want
to
pursue
it?
Do
we
want
to
have
staff
to
do
any
more
work
on
it?
It
doesn't
mean
that
it
would
necessarily
appear
on
an
agenda,
but
is
there?
A
J
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
and
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
Tim
for
all
of
the
work
that
he's
done.
Helping
me
along
this
process.
This
is
my
first
time
doing
an
alderman
request
form
under
our
new
way
of
going
about
it,
and
it's
been
very
smooth
thanks
to
it
to
you
and
I've
worked
with
Nora
as
well
and
countless
emails
and
meetings.
So
I
appreciate
your
time
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
blow
our
council
agenda
this
evening.
My
goal
tonight
is
just
to
kind
of
get
feedback
from
the
group
I'm.
J
Many
of
these
things,
tim
is
already
working
on,
and
we've
talked
about
that,
but
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
wasting
staff
time
and
something
the
majority
of
the
council
isn't
interested
in
moving
forward
on
and,
of
course,
we're
not
agreeing
to
any
kind
of
detailed
fleshed
out
plan.
But
a
lot
of
this
is
going
to
come
back
from
staff.
J
If
the
majority
of
the
council
would
like
to
with
some
more
details,
flushed
out
based
on
the
conversation
here
so
for
the
first
one
directing
the
city
manager
to
explore
how
downtown
projects
are
funded
in
comparable
communities,
my
thought
process
behind
this
is
we've
talked
a
lot
about
downtown
ad
nauseam
from
some
perspectives.
We've
talked
about
how
we
fund
specific
projects
downtown.
J
There
really
is
no
clear
answer
on
some
of
that,
and
other
communities
have
been
able
to
figure
some
of
these
questions
out
and
I'm,
not
really
looking
for
a
very
lengthy
report,
I'm
looking
more
for
staff
to
come
back
with
these
are
a
few
comparable
communities
in
there
about
our
size,
demographics,
whether
it
be
colleges,
businesses,
whatever
here's,
how
they
fund
downtown
specific
projects.
So
st.
Joseph
Missouri
comes
to
mind.
J
You
know
what
as
normal
dude
fund
uptown,
because
we've
talked
about
these
projects
like
getting
recycling
bins
and
having
somebody
come
power
wash
and
a
lot
of
things
in
the
downtown
taskforce
report.
But
we
need
to
have
funding
because
we
always
know
that
funding
is
going
to
be
a
challenge.
So
to
me
the
piece
of
the
equation:
that's
missing
is:
what
can
we
do?
That's
actionable
for
Bloomington
and
so
I
would
envision
at
some
point.
Staff
would
come
back
theoretically
before
the
end
of
the
year
with
here
are
some
ways
we
can
do
it
council.
J
A
M
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
interested
yet
but
a
couple
of
follow-up
questions,
because
it
appears
to
me
right:
I
mean
there's
just
a
couple:
generic
ways
to
do
this
right:
you're,
either
reallocate
existing
dollars
or
you
create
new
dollars
and
those
new
dollars,
I
think
are
things.
We've
talked
about
in
the
past,
clearly:
bond
debt,
additional
debt
for
the
city,
a
special
service
area,
business,
Delap,
a
development
district
or
a
couple
of
other
things
that
we've
talked
about
for
downtown
as
I
recall,
preliminary
conversations
with
the
downtown
group.
M
They
really
weren't
interested
in
taking
on
more
fees,
and/or
taxes,
even
if
the
financing
turnaround
and
went
right
back
into
the
district,
so
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
at
a
high
level.
Given
those
things.
What
what
do
we
expect
staff
to
bring
back
that's
different
than
those
things
I've
just
I've
just
mentioned
yeah.
J
So,
in
those
conversations
in
the
past,
I
think
they
were
very
high
level
and
philosophical
in
nature.
So
I've
heard
liquor
fees
been
talked
about,
I've
heard
gaming
license
has
been
talked
at
I've
heard
special
service
districts,
but
I
haven't
seen
a
very
clear
like
this
is
what
the
ordinance
would
look
like.
Should
we
proceed
at
the
end
of
the
day?
J
We've
all
talked
a
lot
about
doing
these
projects
and
some
interest
in
it
and
I'm
interested
in
talking
about
new
revenue
because
we're
not
getting
it
from
what
we
currently
have
and
if
we're
not
serious
about
creating
some
new
revenue
stream.
Some
of
these
projects
are
gonna
have
to
go
by
the
wayside
and,
in
my
best
case
scenario
from
here,
downtown
projects
would
pay
for
themselves
through
these
downtown
fees.
So,
for
instance,
you
know
we
can
talk
about
increasing,
putting
a
tax
on.
J
J
You
have
many
choices
to
choose
from,
but
don't
tell
me
that
the
students
are
gonna,
stop
coming
because
they're
there
Bud
Light
costs
an
extra
a
few
cents
or
whatever
we
talk
at
a
very
high
level
in
the
past
about
these
sorts
of
things
and
I
don't
not
seen
the
nuance.
This
is
what
it
would
look
like.
J
M
So
I
think
you
just
took
a
couple
things
off
the
table
that
I
just
mentioned
and
I
want
to
be
sure.
You
talked
about
revenue
coming
directly
from
the
downtown
district
itself,
the
forum
we
don't
know
yet,
but
you're
not
talking
about
reallocating
existing
budget
dollars
and
you're,
not
talking
about
the
simply
the
city,
simply
assuming
more
bond
debt
to
cover
downtown
you're,
primarily
focused
at
this
point
by
the
downtown,
whatever
shape
those
new
taxes
or
fees,
take,
would
generate
downtown
projects.
Is
that
yes,
okay,
all.
I
Thank
you
and
Scott
said
that
he's
been
here
for
half
a
decade
that
doesn't
sound.
Very
nice
I've
been
here
a
couple
years
longer
than
a
lifetime
right,
Kerry,
so
I.
You
know
I'm
asking
a
couple
questions
for
clarification,
so
you
said
that
tim
has
been
working
on
a
couple
of
those
things.
So
I
wanted
to
to
be
able
to
understand
what
those
things
he's
been
working
on
are
and
also
I
know.
The
staff
was
working
on.
I
You
know
some
of
the
downtown
initiatives
as
I
just
kind
of
want
to
flesh
this
out
and
figure
out.
What's
what
you
know?
What
are
we
exactly
going
after
and
if
this
process
is
going
to
lead
to
some
clarification
because
I
know,
we
asked
the
staff
to
work
on
some
low-hanging
fruit
and
then
possibly
other
things
that
I'm
just
not
clear
as
to
where
we're
going.
We
will
be
going
with
this
great.
J
Questions
and
I'll,
not
this
project
specifically
but
other
ones,
and
the
six
that
are
brought
up
tonight.
Tim
has
been
working
on
it
and
we'll
talk
about
those
and
we
get
to
them.
But
for
this
one
specifically
I
know
we
had
asked
to
have
to
work
on
some
low-hanging
fruit,
I
left
a
couple
of
those
conversations
thing
a
little
bit
ambiguous.
J
One
of
my
goals
this
evening
is
to
provide
staff
the
clear
direction
from
this
council
that
these
sorts
of
fees
targeted
towards
downtown
are
not
off
the
table
that
we
are
very
interested
in
getting
clearer
information
about
what
this
looks
like
with
a
proposal
that
would
be
fit
to
Bloomington
I
feel
as
though,
if
we
don't
do
that,
we
could
be
looking
at
a
couple
of
well.
You
know.
F
Entirely
sure
what
the
purpose
of
this
was,
unfortunately,
I'm
getting
more
confused
as
time
goes
on.
So
maybe
you
can
help
me
out
here,
because
you
know
this
Brazil
proposal
is
written
as
just
generally
tell
us
how
their
communities
do
it,
but
now
you're
narrowing
it
down
to
only
specific
types
of
funding
streams
that
would
be
looked
at
and
I'm
just,
but
it
so
that
I'm
not
entirely
sure
what
it
is.
F
We
would
be
doing
if
we
said
yet,
let's
go
ahead
with
this,
but
let
me
tell
you
my
bigger
concern,
which
is
not
the
specifics
of
this.
My
bigger
concern
is
we
can
ask
staff
to
give
us
a
generic
report
on
how
other
communities
do
things
to
give
us.
You
know
an
education
on
downtown
development
of
downtown
revitalization,
or
we
can
have
staff.
Look
at
the
various
reports
that
we've
adopted
and
recommendations
that
are
out
there
and
bring
us
actionable
items
as
necessary
and
I'm
to
me.
The
latter.
F
The
course
of
action
is
one
that
is
more
likely
to
get
things
done
in
the
downtown
area,
which
is
really
what
we're
missing
right
now-
and
this
is
the
frustration
I
feel
underlying
this
as
a
lack
of
progress
in
the
downtown
area,
and
how
do
we
get
there
because
I
think
inherent
and
whatever
staff
does
or
brings
to
us
they're
going
to
have
to
also
bring
to
us
suggestions
on
how
do
we
pay
for
it?
Is
it
a
reallocation
of
funds?
Is
it
typical
in
this
particular
scenario
which
you
use?
F
You
know
a
special
service
district
might
be
appropriate
here?
Maybe
it's
not
appropriate
there,
so
I
think
I
would
rather
personally
say.
Instead
of
asking
for
more
of
a
bigger
picture
item
that
talks
about
just
in
the
in
the
abstract
ways
of
funding
things
we
say
to
staff,
hey
downtown
is
still
really
important
to
us.
We
want
to
see
things
get
done
there
bring
us
actionable,
I
and
I.
Think
we'll
all
be
happier
with
the
results
of
that
I.
J
Was
looking
to
get
bogged
down
in
specifics
because
I
wanted
to
defer
to
staff
on
some
of
those
other
ones
but
I'm
sure
you've
had
conversations
with
people
that
have
been
like
well,
have
you
looked
at
so-and-so
city
and
how
they've
done
this
and
you're
right?
We've
done
report
after
report
task
force,
and
you
did
a
great
job
of
chairing
that
that
organization
I'm
fine
with,
however,
that
comes
back
to
us.
I
just
need
to
see
the
specifics
and
not
a
high-level
conversation
about
what
it
would
look
like.
I
want
to
see.
J
F
Just
not
I
still
I'm,
not
sure
that
I
understand,
because
what
does
it
matter?
How
other
communities
have
done
things
I
mean
we
can
use
those
for
ideas,
but
we're
not
we're
not
struggling
for
lack
of
ideas,
we're
struggling
for
lack
of
progress
and-
and
so
my
question
is:
how
do
we?
How
do
we
make
sure
we
get
that
because
I
feel,
like
staff
is
already
bringing
us
down
the
road
of
progress?
I
don't
want
to
give
them
another
project
that
detracts
from
that
and
and
maybe
I'm
just
failing
to
see
the
point
here.
J
Whatever
that
would
look
like
I
would
like
to
see
a
menu
of
options
in
actual.
This
is
what
it
would
be,
as
opposed
to
me
saying:
10
cents
on
a
beer.
This
is
what
it
would
be.
Here's
would
be
the
impact.
This
is
the
amount
of
money
it
would
raise
and
I
think
that
would
help
foster
our
conversation
about
what
projects
could
or
could
not
be
done.
J
A
K
I
A
I
B
E
Did
do
quite
a
study
maybe
a
decade
ago
on
special
services,
district
business
improvement
district
that
got
quite
far
along
and
being
fleshed
out
and
I
can
assure
you
that
the
reaction
was
swift
and
clear,
but
should
we
decide
to
go
down
this
road
I
there
are.
There
is
some
framework
to
build
on
to
and
I
also
I
want
to
support.
What
alderman
Burgas
is
saying.
E
I
actually
think
that
we
do
have
plans,
and
some
of
them
are
tier
one
plans
and
they're
not
going
to
cost
a
lot
of
money,
but
they
may
move
us
along
and
they
get
more
and
more
expensive.
Some
things
may
very
easily
get
rolled
into
next
year's
budget
and
they
can
happen
so
I
I
could
see
using
that
as
the
the
starting
point
to
begin
to
talk
about
boy.
When
we
get
to
a
tier
3
thing,
we
better
have
a
better
plan
for
how
we
fund
it.
N
My
thoughts
were
along
that
line
that
maybe
we
can
solve
the
problem
of
this
broad
brush
approach
by
identifying
what
are
the
items
that
are
prioritized
and
then
tasking
staff
to
say:
okay,
how
will
we
fund
these,
and
so
maybe
they
can
specifically
study
those
things
that
we've
identified
as
we?
Yes,
these
are
projects
that
we'd
like
to
do,
and
so
what
is
the
best
way
to
fund
those
and
instead
of
having
them
just
search
all
different
kinds
of
projects
and
figure
out
funding
streams.
J
Excuse
me
again
success
for
me
if
it
doesn't
come
in
the
form
of
approving
this
alderman
request
form
as
presented.
Success
comes
from
me
and
if
we
can
tell
staff
clearly
that
we
are
interested
in
some
sort
of
revenue
generator
to
fund
these
projects,
we've
tried
to
prioritize
some
things
and
I'm
I'm,
not
sure
that's
been
done
and
we've
seen
a
couple
different
ways
of
doing
it
that
it
some
have
been
confusing
and
some
have
been
successful.
J
I
just
want
to
give
staff
that
political,
I
guess
cover
or
the
political
will
power
from
this
group
that
we
are
interested
in
all
these
things
on
the
table,
and
if
the
group
decides
that
we
don't
want
to
look
at
new
fees
and
new
taxes
for
downtown,
then
I
think
that
takes
them
a
lot
of
those
things
that
are
our
priorities
off
of
the
table
entirely.
All.
M
So
again,
I've
kind
of
echo,
some
other
things
that
said
I
mean
I,
think
I.
Think
Amelia
makes
a
good
point
right,
I
mean
I,
think
we've
already
done
some
prioritization
of
downtown
projects
and
I'm,
not
sure
where
we're
at
with
that,
but
I,
recall,
I,
know
providing
some
input
on
a
spreadsheet
and
sending
that
back
so
I
mean
I.
M
Think
we
already
have
some
some
prioritization
in
place
that
to
me
sky
that
comes
back
to
I,
think
the
point
you've
raised,
and
that
is
simply
worse
that
were
that
we're
the
tax
dollars
going
to
come
from
to
pay
for
that
right
and
in
you
know,
all
roads
lead
back
there
from
where
I
sit
and
in
I
mean
it's
well,
it's
well,
it's
clarifying
for
me
to
realize
that
you
know
like
like
I
said
earlier.
We
took
some
other
things
off
the
table
and
we're
talking
about
something
from
within
the
downtown
district
financing.
The
downtown.
M
That's
the
principle
you
kind
of
have
laid
out
well
again,
as
Karen
said:
I
mean
I.
Think
I
can
you
know,
estimate
pretty
clearly
what
the
response
is
gonna
be
from
from
the
downtown
stakeholders
on
that.
So,
given
that,
then
it
comes
back
to
into
the
the
other
conversation
that
we
seem
to
have,
and
that
is
how
do
we
prioritize
the
larger
pool
of
existing
tax
money
across
the
multitude
of
needs?
M
K
I
was
gonna
say
much.
The
same
thing
is
that
I
think
that
we've
already
started
down
the
path
of
prioritization
and
everything
keeps
coming
to
a
screeching
halt
as
soon
as
somebody
says,
but
how
much
does
that
cost
and
everything?
So,
every
time
we
take
one
step
forward,
we
get
kicked
back
three-quarters
of
the
step,
because
how
much
does
that
cost?
How
much
does
that
cost
and
everything
stops
right?
There
and
Scott
I,
guess
I'd
the
way
that
I've
read
this?
Is
that
you're
trying
to
say
okay?
K
It
did
it
did
not
get
presented
to
the
best
that
it
could
have
been.
A
lot
of
things
are
in
presentation
so
for
coupling
different
options
and
fees
and
putting
things
together
into
a
package
that
could
bring
to
a
greater
whole.
That
could
say
if
we
do
this
to
sense,
a
beer
or
whatever
it
might
be
I
don't
know,
then
we
have
a
pool
of
money.
That
says
we
can
knock
all
these
tier
one
things
off
the
list
in
three
years.
K
If
we
do
this,
we
can
knock
the
tier
one
things,
and
maybe
we
can
start
into
tier
two
things
in
five
years,
and
so
we
we
can
put
an
actual
expectation
based
on
the
prioritization.
We
already
got
from
Community
Development,
as
well
as
maybe
a
timetable
to
start
actually
taking
action.
The
same
thing
so
I
would
be
the
supportive
of
staff
spending
a
little
time
to
look
at
what
those
different
models
might
be.
I
think
it's
the
best
of
both
worlds.
K
G
We
can't
increase
taxes
and
fees
to
to
find
ourselves
in
a
healthy
financial
picture.
We
need
to
grow,
grow
our
economy
and
my
check.
My
challenge
would
be
to
the
folks
that
are
going
to
IML
I,
don't
think
anybody's
going
to
NLC,
but
the
folks
that
are
going
to
IML
talk
to
the
people
there
or
go
to
some
of
the
sessions
that
are
talking
about
how
other
cities
are
funding
their
their
development.
G
C
J
Yeah
to
your
question,
I'm
just
thinking,
AI
I
should
have
gone
to
law.
School
I
would
have
been
better
at
writing.
These
yeah
I'm
not
looking
to
just
say
that
everything
that's
paid
for
downtown
comes
from
this
fund
I'm.
Just
saying
that
we
we
need
to
have
a
pool
of
money
to
fund
these
downtown
projects,
and
some
of
these
tier
1
tier
2
to
your
3.
J
Long-Term
goals
are
going
to
require
some
investment
from
the
city
and,
given
our
current
financial
situation,
there's
not
going
to
be
any
more
dollars
coming
out
of
any
fun
that
we
currently
have
to
fund
any
future
downtown
projects.
It's
important
to
me
that
a
lot
of
the
things
that
our
downtown
focus
are
paid
through
the
the
fruits
that
will
come
from
these
downtown
investments
and
whether
it
be
again
comparable
communities.
Our
own
work,
that's
been
done,
which
has
been
fantastic.
J
We
got
to
stop
having
these
high-level
conversations,
but
we're
we're
looking
for
and
actually
talked
about,
a
specific
proposal,
so
when
Jamie
says
two
cents
of
beer
or
five
cents
of
beer,
what
what
is
the
actual
number
and
I
like
the
way
that
you'd
put
it
out
there
of
you
know
we
do
this
it'll
fund
this
many
projects
that
we
do
that
it'll
fund.
This
many
projects
in
this
many
years
and
again
success
is
giving
staff
the
clear
direction
from
this
conversation
and
what
we're
looking
for
all.
I
I,
you
know
personally
I'm
a
little
hesitant
to
do
that,
because
I
feel
I
could
be
premature
to
to
go
in
this
particular
direction.
I
would
rather
have
the
staff
come
back
to
us
with
specific
projects
and
say
here's
how
I
think
so.
Here's
how
we
think
as
staff
you
know
this
can
be
funded,
but
right
now
just
given
that
broad
directive
would
feel
a
little
bit
immature
for
me,
especially
because
you
know
I
mean
I
I'm,
all
about
benchmarking
and
looking
at
other
communities,
but
the
communities
are
still
different.
I
You
know
and
then
people
here
will
react
different,
so
I
I,
don't
know
you
know
if
they
see
a
project
and
people
see
the
value
of
a
project
here
locally.
You
know
they
might
say,
yeah
sure,
let's
go
for
it.
You
know
they
might
react
really
differently.
So
I
I
think
it's
a
little
premature
at
this
time.
For
me,
by
the
way,
okay.
A
So,
just
to
summarize
you're
thinking
of
something
that's
natural
level,
not
necessarily
project
specific
as
a
funding
mechanism
that
is
generated
from
economic
activity
downtown
and
are
we
asking
staff
staff
already
has
direction
to
do
some
of
the
prioritization
examine
some
low-lying
fruit,
bring
other
projects
back
to
us
about
downtown
it's
one
of
our
top
goals,
but
it
doesn't
seem
if
I'm
reading
this
right,
I
think
I
heard
a
few
voices
that
were
in
support.
But
I
didn't
hear
a
majority
to
continue
on
this.
A
N
C
C
A
J
This
goes
back,
I
mean
looking
at
our
documents
and
intimate
I
have
talked
about
this.
You
know
there's
some
opportunity
in
our
city,
services,
bill
and
others
to
really
present
better
information
and
in
a
way,
this
kind
of
partner,
with
our
students
here
locally
and
only
Wesleyan-
is
you.
We
don't
have
a
consultant
come
in
here
and
redesign
everything
we
can
partner
with
the
talent.
That's
already
here,
give
them
an
opportunity
to
learn
more
about
city
government
and
then
come
back
with
a
redesigned
standard
form
that
we
could
use
that.
J
That
shows
us
as
a
modern,
forward-thinking
community
that
we
are
I
know
people
are
going
to
say.
Was
this
really
a
priority?
There's
never
going
to
be
a
good
time
to
have
this
conversation.
I
look
at
this
is
a
good
chance
for
us
to
work
with
students
help
of
their
resume
and
in
exchange
for
that
we'll
get
a
better
looking
document
that
provides
good
information
to
the
public
and
is
provides
a
good
face
for
for
us
to
the
country
are.
J
So
I've
seen
us
use
on
memos
the
standard
Microsoft
Word
template
I'm,
talking
about
council
packets,
the
way
that
they
look,
the
city
services
bills,
really
any
document
that
the
city
touches
and
I
would
defer
to
Tim
and
staff
on.
You
know
comprehensive
list
and
what
would
be
prioritized,
but
the
idea
being
that
we
would
use
our
local
talent
to
redesign
and
revamp
those
documents.
I
didn't.
M
I've
mentioned
this
a
couple
times
now
and
when
we've
had
conversations
with
the
downtown
signage
and
some
of
those
other
Congress.
Now,
and
maybe
this
is
happening,
I,
don't
think
it
is
because
I
think
probably
would
have
heard
about
it,
and
that
is
was
to
perhaps
maybe
use
some
interns
or
some
students
to
develop
a
downtown
app.
M
J
I'm
thinking
more
of
you
know
in
my
professional
life,
I
know
that
every
so
often
I
get
like
a
new.
You
got
to
use
this
for
moving
forward
and
looks
a
certain
way
as
part
of
a
branding
is
probably
the
best
way
to
put
it.
You
know
our
our
city
documents
are
the
same.
We
use
Times
New
Roman.
We
put
a
clip
out
JPEG
on
our
documents.
I
know
that
I've
seen
city
memos
come
back
that
have
been
just
a
standard
with
word
template
for
a
memo,
and
this
is
not
the
message.
J
I
wanna
be
saying
to
others
outside
of
our
community
that
we're
just
a
standard
copy
and
paste
we're
gonna
get
done
as
quickly
as
possible
and
and
we're
fortunate
to
have
a
pool
of
students
here
that
do
this
as
part
of
their
profession
and
what
better
way
to
tap
into
those
students
without
having
to
spend
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
and
having
somebody
come
in
and
tell
us.
This
is
what
you
should
look
like,
really
utilize,
that
that
talent,
locally
Oh
woman.
C
N
It
just
comes
to
mind
that,
as
we
try
to
do
some
redesign,
sometimes
that
is
a
very
data
rich
and
certain
systems
can't
run
certain
kinds
of
of
data
or
logos
or
the
like.
So
I
think
if
we
decide
to
do
something
like
this,
we
have
to
have
our
IT
folks
very
involved
in
making
sure
that
they're
not
designing.
You
know
a
fantastic
new
system
and
then
our
fantastic
new
set
of
documents
and
all
kinds
of
links
and
the
like,
and
then
our
system
can't
run
it
so
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
any.
N
A
N
I
mean
before
you
get
students
on
board
to
start
this
project.
We
need
to
double
check.
What
is
the
capabilities
of
our
system
to
run
enhancements?
Because
if,
if
we
don't
have
enough
muscle
to
run
it,
then
they'll
design
something
and
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
it
and
we
won't
be
able
to
execute
Thanks.
A
I
So
I
think
it
would
help
for
me
to
to
understand
what
those
documents
arts,
I
didn't
really
get
a
sense
because
I
initially
I
heard
I,
read
documents
and
then
I'm
hearing
websites
and
now
there's
technology
involved,
so
I
and
and
not
meaning
to
to
get
into
the
house
but
I.
You
know
I'd
like
to
get
a
sense
of
you
know
really
how
much
time
is
it
gonna
take
staff
to
do
that
because
I
know
working
with
student
interns.
I
You
know,
there's
turnover
and
I
know
these
projects
kind
of
have
a
way
of
you
know
creeping
into
people's
lives
and
after
a
semester
you
know,
students,
student
gets
off
the
you
know
the
there's
no
longer
an
intern,
they
move
on.
They
have
something
else,
and
then
you
have
another
one
who
comes
on
and
they
have
to
take
over
some
things
and
things
like
yeah,
so
I
guess
it
would
be
helpful
for
me
to
kinda
to
get
a
sense
of
what
are
we
talking
about
what
documents,
how
much
time?
I
J
A
Q
K
K
You
know
and
are
those
the
appropriate
things
to
put
at
the
beginning
of
our
packets
anymore
I
think
some
of
them
have
been
at
the
front
of
the
packet
for
10
years,
and
you
know
I've
asked
Karen
a
couple
questions
like:
where
did
this
come
from
and
she's
like
I,
don't
even
remember,
Hurricane,
Ivan
and
so
I
think
that
there's
things
we
could,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
things.
We
could
do.
K
I've
had
marketing
departments
from
both
iwu
and
is
you
reach
out
to
me
at
various
businesses
to
say
we
need
to
do
a
senior
project
this
year?
Can
we
work
with
your
business,
so
they
are
already
doing
this
they're
already
actively
out
in
the
community.
Looking
for
projects,
you
know,
things
like
a
style
guide
are
part
of
what
you
usually
get
for
those
saying
specifying
fonts
and
and
in
styles,
and
branding
letterheads
and
things
of
that
nature.
K
So
I
see
this
as
being
fairly
minimal
staff
time
to
get
a
report
back
from
the
kids
to
say
you
know
here
are
some
different
ways
that
we
can
approach
this.
Here's
some
different
things
that
we
can
look
at
and
as
we're
moving
forward
to
a
more
digital
engaged
future.
You
know
setting
some
of
those
stuff
up
right
now.
K
Taking
some
of
those
baby
steps
now
is
a
good
way
to
move
forward
and
we've
already
got
because
the
next
class
that
comes
along
in
bocas
point
if
one
class
gives
us
a
style
guide
the
next
class.
We
said
we
have
the
style
guide
and
we
need
the
documents
revised
into
this
style
guide,
and
so
you
know
chunking
it
off
and
the
small
pieces
will
we
go
along,
but
giving
interns
things
that
they
can
put
in
their
portfolios
is
going
to
be
a
good
idea.
All.
G
You
I
certainly
would
like
to
see
it
kinda
new
continuity
and
all
of
our
documents
and
our
powerpoints
and
so
forth,
and
a
revamp
of
our
water
bill,
because
it's
not
a
water
bill.
It's
a
city
service
bill,
I,
don't
think
this
takes
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
direct
our
city
manager
to
do
this.
I'm!
Sorry,
it's
it's
I
think
all
we
need
to
say
is
when
you
have
when
we've
got
the
time,
please
look
at
it.
I
I'm
sorry
doesn't
deserve
this
amount
of
time.
Okay,.
I
More
complicated,
I
would
say
yes,
but
I.
Very
much
would
like
to
hear
from
the
staff
about
how
this
would
work
from
their
perspective,
because
we
haven't
heard
from
them.
You
know
because
they're,
the
ones
who
are
going
to
implement
it
and
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
going
to
be
I
mean
too
much
time
for
them
or
not.
I,
don't
know
because
interns
you
have
to
kind
of
look
after
the
work,
they're
doing
and
monitor
what
they're
doing.
Okay,
it's.
M
A
M
A
You
know
in
Wesley
Illinois
State
University
students
on
other
projects
if
we
begin
to
develop
those
relationships,
but
anyway,
okay,
we'll
move
on
now
to
all
number
three,
which
is
direct
city
manager
to
initiate
eminent
domain
process
on
targeted
downtown
properties.
You
got
the
floor
for
three
minutes.
That's.
J
C
M
I'm
sorry
well
in
the
first
of
all,
I
mean
real
estate,
and
property
acquisition
is
something
that
is
specifically
allocated
to
do
with
in
closed
session
and
that's
what
this
is
and
and
and
so
I
will
tell
you
that
you
know
I'm
always
willing
to
hear
whatever
the
city
manager
you
might
want
to
bring
to
us
related.
You
know
along
those
guidelines,
but
to
end
or
something
at
a
high
level
and
vague
and
something
related
to
private
property
rights
in
a
public
setting
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
that.
If.
A
Q
M
I,
yeah
and
I
don't
know
it
we
it
so
at
some
point
it
becomes
tomato
tomahto
I
mean
to
me.
We
talk
about
property
acquisition
in
closed
session
and
and
and
what
to
do
with
property,
and-
and
so
so.
With
that
backdrop,
I'm
not
comfortable
in
initiating
some
public
conversation
at
such
a
high
level
without
understanding
what
what
the
you
know,
the
impacts
are
going
to
be
if
the
city
manager
wants
to
to
you
know
have
you
know
some
some
conversations
with
us
and
one-on-ones
or
three
on
ones
or
something
like
that.
M
Q
A
legal
standpoint
I
would
say
that
when
we're
talking
about
real
estate
acquisition,
we're
talking
about
a
specific
piece
of
real
estate,
in
the
same
way
that
when
we
talk
about
personnel
general,
we
were
speaking
about
either
collective
bargaining
or
or
a
specific
personnel
issue.
But
this
sounds,
and
maybe
maybe
alder
and
black
can
explain
it.
But
it
sounds
like
it's
more
like
beginning
like
discussing
a
process
rather
than
actually
filing
on
a
specific
pieces
of
real
estate.
Is
that
I
think
alderman
sage.
M
Q
I
So
I
have
somewhat
of
a
similar
concern,
because
I
think
this
again
is
a
little
too
broad
because
I,
you
know,
if
I'm
a
property
owner
in
the
downtown
I'm
asking
myself.
What
does
this
mean?
You
know?
Do
they
mean
me?
You
know
what
what's
the
standard
for
determining
that
you
know
so.
I
I
really
don't
want
to
send
shivers.
You
know
of
people's
fine.
You
know
for
them
to
think
of
that,
we're
you
know
we're
we're
targeting
their
property.
G
A
E
J
Okay
and
the
reason
to
your
point-
I
don't
know
if
there's
another
example
of
where
the
city
Bloomie's
has
used
eminent
domain
in
this
way,
but
but
because
it
is
such
a
heavy
staff
involvement
because
it
is
a
it
has
a
you
know,
a
large
amount
of
repercussions
that
may
go
down
the
road,
both
financially
and
otherwise.
I
think
it's
important
we've
talked,
we've
all
talked
about
it
at
some
point
that
we
give
clear
direction
to
our
city
manager.
J
E
J
C
O
N
G
J
All
them
in
black
I
think
a
yes
vote
is
telling
the
city
manager
that
we
are
interested
in
this
and
we
are
at
a
point
with
some
properties
strategically
downtown.
That
I
don't
know.
I,
don't
want
to
name
what
they
are,
but
I
wanted
we're
telling
the
staff
to
come
back
with
some
some
process
on
eminent
domain
and.
J
Maybe
we're
not
we're
not
in
confuse
things,
yes
as
a
tool,
but
but
I
would
hope
to
see
from
this
conversation
a
yes
vote
will
yield
at
some
future
executive
session,
because
that
would
be
legal
and
real
estate,
some
plan
from
the
city,
manager
and
staff
about
targeted
downtown
properties
and
at
that
time
we're
like
we
don't
want
to
go
down
this
route.
That's
a
different
conversation,
but
okay.
A
L
F
C
I
And
and
I
guess
I
this
to
me
begs
the
question:
when
has
it
never
been
a
a
tool?
You
know
I,
so
I,
don't
know
why
we're
trying
to
answer
this
question
now.
I
mean
it
as
far
as
I
know.
It's
always
been
a
tool.
You
know
we
just
haven't
used
it.
So
why
are
we
it's
almost
like
trying
to
reaffirm
something?
That's
always
been
there.
You
know,
we've
just
never
used
it.
I
So
I
I,
don't
think
it's
it's
a
good
idea
to
to
make
such
a
broad
statement
about
it,
because
I
think,
if
I'm,
even
a
prospective
property
owner,
I'm
thinking,
I,
don't
know
what
they're
up
to
so
I'm
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
interested
in
buying
property
there.
So,
let's
address
specific
properties
as
they
come
up
and
if,
at
that
point,
if
eminent
domain
is
a
an
option,
then
let's
talk
about
it,
but
just
to
make
it
broad,
like
that,
not
a
good
idea.
All.
M
Of
them
says
yeah
and
I
agree
with
that.
I
mean
precisely
with
some
of
those
points.
Eminent
domain
has
always
been
an
option
available
to
us.
I
will
tell
you
my
recollection
in
my
time
on
the
council.
It
was
discussed
one
time
with
the
acquisition
of
some
property
related
to
the
extension
of
bun
Street
through
to
connect
bun
Street
to
Main
Street.
M
A
D
J
Talking
so
much
tonight,
I'm
sorry
about
that
directing
the
city
manager
to
update
our
economic
development
policy.
I
noticed
that
in
the
time
that
I've
been
here,
we
talked
about
the
economic
development
policy.
A
lot
I'd
like
us
to
really
be
focused
more
on
economic
development
engines
and
less
on
retail
and
those
sorts
of
things.
When
we
talk
about
at
a
high
level,
I
want
to
get
that
in
writing.
So
staff
has
clear
direction
from
us.
We.
A
Just
just
to
clarify
that,
for
the
record,
it's
a
2011
I'm,
virtually
certain
it
could
have
been
10,
but
I
think
it
was
11
before
I
was
mayor
that
there
was
an
economic
development
pal.
You
know
policy
written
by
a
previous
council
previous
mayor
previous
city
manager
and
so
you're
suggesting
updating,
updating.
M
Okay,
all
of
them
sage,
so
so
again,
I'll
need
some
clarification,
because
the
this
scope
of
economic
development
has
always
been
kind
of
a
multi-tier
and
I'm
going
to
give
some
as
Karen
did
here
previously
some
historical
perspective,
the
economic
development
council
and
or
/b
in
advantage
has
been
charged
traditionally
with
creating
those
economic
engines
that
you
just
mentioned,
those
more
regional.
If
you
will
economic
development
opportunities
that
create
I,
think
the
kind
of
jobs
that
you're
suggesting
Scott
I
mean
whether
they
are
manufacturing
or
technology
logistics.
M
What
whatever
those
may
be
is
what
I'm
thinking
your
understanding
that
you're
saying
and
that
line
of
demarcation
between
the
regional
EDC
effort
and
now
be
an
advantage
and
the
the
local
municipality
was.
We
worked
on
the
more
the
spot,
economic
development
that
that
perhaps
might
not
exactly
parallel
what
you're
saying
and
and
so
to
me.
If
so,
one
of
the
questions
I
would
have
then
is.
Is
that
and
maybe
Tim
we'll
have
to
to
flesh
this
out,
but
is
that
still
the
line
of
demarcation
or
a
division
of
labor?
M
If
you
will
between
EDC
and
be
an
advantage
and
what
what
local
municipalities
are
doing,
whether
it's
the
town
or
the
city
and
and
and
if
it
if
it
is,
then
what
you're
suggesting
is
that
we're
going
to
take
on
some
of
the
work
that
the
EDC
and
or
be
an
advantage,
is
currently
charged
with?
That's
that's
the
conclusion
I've
come
to
and
I'm
asking
is.
J
Yeah
I
hear
you
my
goal
here
is
that,
as
the
staff
really
number
one
is
updating
the
economic
development
policy
to
be
more
in
line
with
where
we
are
today
with
this
current
council
and
then
number
two,
it
I've
known
that
in
talking
to
the
economic
development
coordinator,
past
and
present,
a
lot
of
the
metrics
are
focused
on
retail,
specific
targets
and
I.
Don't
think
that
that
is
not
something
that
I'm
willing
to
sign
on
to
now.
J
How
that
plays
out
with
being
advantage
in
EDC
I,
think
that's
a
that's
something
that
staff
would
would
sort
out
and
part
of
an
update
and
where
that
demarcation
line
might
be.
But
I
don't
see
this
this
to
me
at
the
start
of
a
conversation
with
staff,
saying
that
we
want
to
be
more
focused
on
some
areas
that
aren't
so
retail
heavy
part
of
the
feedback
that
I
get
from
people
is
I
know
you
guys
celebrate.
You
know
another
Empire
crossings,
but
is
that's
just
another
few
jobs
here?
J
We're
not
talking
about
the
big
engines
that
drive
the
community
if
it
means
that
the
policy
is
that
you
know
part
of
our
EDC.
You
know
I'm
wanting
the
specifics
of
what
that
policy
would
look
like
I
think
that
this
we're
directing
the
city
manager
to
review
it
with
a
special
emphasis,
not
economic
engines,
just.
A
C
A
Well,
they
don't
have
the
authority
to
do
anything
that
that
deals
in
an
economic
policy
with
giving
any
kind
of
tax
breaks
or
incentives
or
whatever
they
have
to
ask
us
for
help.
But
anyway
the
we
have
continued
questions.
So,
let's
we'll
go
back
to
all
the
no
la
way,
Diana,
okay,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
it.
Doesn't
it
can
go
from
one
end
to
the
other,
but
regardless
I.
G
Don't
see
us
getting
involved
in
in
economic
engines
per
se,
we
we
need
to
hold
the
EDC
and
be
an
advantage.
We
need
to
hold
their
feet
to
the
fire
for
the
money
that
we
understand
what
you're
saying
there,
but
we're
providing
them
with
a
fair
amount
of
money
each
year
and
if
they're,
not.
If
we're
not
real.
If
we're
not
saying
that
we
have
the
confidence
in
them
to
do
it,
then
we
need
to
pull
that
money
back
and
hire
our
own
EDC,
our
own
economic
development
person
that
focuses
on
other
than
retail.
G
I
I
You
know
this
is
not
easy
stuff.
It
takes
quite
a
while
to
bring
forth
those
sort
of
you
know
economic
engine
type
of
jobs,
and
so
I
am
just
you
know,
I'm
just
curious
how
cuz
I
I
mean
I
I'm,
an
administrator,
so
I
tend
to
think
about.
How
is
this
gonna
work
out?
You
know
on
a
day
to
day
basis
you
know.
D
I
F
F
Perhaps
we're
and-
and
that's
why
I'm
beginning
to
see
that
we
have
a
little
bit
of
an
issue
or
I'm
concerned
about
these
new
alderman
initiatives,
because
we
don't
get
any
staff
feedback.
There
may
very
well
be
an
answer.
This
could
be
already
be
in
progress
and
we
don't
know
that
because
right
now
we're
operating
in
a
vacuum
and
I
feel
like
it's
leading
to
these
longer
conversations.
So
that's
that's
a
bigger
picture
thing.
F
Perhaps
this
is
one
that
could
be
answered
quite
easily,
maybe
stuffs
already
looking
at
updating
this
or
maybe
there
are
new
best
practices
in
this
area,
and
you
know,
and
they
don't
need
our
guidance,
but
as
for
you
know
our
policy
yeah,
it
should
be
updated.
Our
regular
interval,
if
it's
done
in
a
way
that
maximizes
our
impact
on
the
community
absolutely,
but
but
what
that
looks
like
I'm,
not
sure
that
I'm
willing
to
say
say
to
staff
it
has
to
be
focused
on
this
specific
area
because
we're
not
the
economic
development
experts.
F
That's
not
our
background.
It's
a
you
know
we
hire
a
specialist
for
that,
so
I
would
hate
to
closed
doors
on
what
that
document
might
look
like,
and
they
certainly
would
have
the
better
understanding
of
how
our
current
system
interplays,
with
EDC
and
being
advantaged,
because
I
know
they
work
very
closely
with
them.
So
I,
just
you
know,
I'm,
not
sure,
it's
hard
to
say,
yeah,
let's,
let's
update
the
policy
but
other
than
that,
I'm,
not
sure
what
I
would
want
to
say
without
some
input
input
from
staff.
Thank
you
all.
E
This
could
be
a
document
that
allows
small
businesses
and
the
entrepreneur
and
and
the
independent
businessman
to
launch
his
or
her
businesses
more
easily.
It's
the
one-stop
shop,
it's
the
it's
an
attitude
and
I
think
this
is
a
policy
that
that
reflects
an
attitude
we
have
about
wanting
to
retain
people
and
to
build
new
and
interesting
jobs,
so
I
I'm,
supportive,
okay,
anything.
A
Else
all
right,
so
at
this
point
the
the
question-
I,
don't
know
how
many,
how
many
hundreds
of
percent
over
time
we
are
may
be
here,
but
yeah,
just
just
a
quick.
This
is
the
economic
development
policy,
if
I,
if
I'm
sitting
this
correctly,
because
this
is
your
proposal
to
update
this-
this
was
updated
in
2000.
Well,
actually
was
created
in
2011
and
given
could
be
give
her
taking
her,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
it
was
11
because
the
previous
full-time
city
manager,
mr.
A
N
Yes
and
I
would
add
that
you
know
you
appropriately
outlined
that
you
say
five
to
ten
hours,
so
if
staff
is
taking
more
than
five
to
ten
hours,
then
they
could.
The
C
major
can
be
visit
with
us
on
where
we
are
with
this
and
whether
or
not
this
was
a
Herculean
task
or
you
know,
maybe
it's
already
in
progress,
and
this
will
be
a
quick
win.
So
I
vote
YES
on
this
one.
Okay,.
M
M
Think
Diana
raises
a
good
point
right
if
we're
gonna,
if
we're
going
to
take
some
of
that
scope
back
that
we
haven't
had
before
which,
which
is
what
Scott's
initiative
is
suggesting
with
with
you
know,
career
with
with
economic
drivers,
then
we're
going
to
take
some
money
back
to
to
to
help
cover
the
cost
of
us
doing
that
too.
So
update
the
economic
policy
yeah
anything
beyond
that.
No
alleman.
K
A
J
And
I
don't
want
to
take
away
Tim
thunder
on
this
I
know
he's
been
working
on
it.
I
know
that
all
of
us
got
lots
of
calls
and
I.
Think
Johnny
sent
me
an
email
earlier
with
their
current
practices,
but
I
know
that
I
get
lots
of
calls
about
properties.
What
other
communities
do
about
these
sorts
of
properties,
how
they
handle
it
and
I?
Think
that
that's
our
thing
that
works!
Is
that
correct
him?
A
A
J
And
so
just
at
a
high
level,
as
this
is
my
last
one,
you
know
I'd
kind
of
viewed.
The
aldermen
request
form
is
kind
of
a
conversation
about
these
sorts
of
topics
and
not
a
nuanced
flushed
out
proposal
about
what
that
would
look
like
so
I
apologize
if
I
didn't
give
everyone
what
they
were
looking
for
in
terms
of
all
the
specifics,
but
this
is.
J
This
has
been
a
good
conversation
because
I
think
it's
giving
staff
some
direction
and
some
of
these
issues
that
that
all
of
us
are
passionate
about
during
the
heat
of
the
budget
cycle
and
having
done
a
couple
budget
cycles
now
we
we
often
focus
on
things
that
are
kind
of
punitive
for
like
these.
If
you,
you
know,
get
too
much
water,
your
bill
goes
up,
but
this
is
an
example
of
where
I
think
we
should
be
doing
an
incentive
for
what
I
think
will
be
better
behavior
within
that.
J
If
you
have
an
automatic
bill
pay,
you
know
you're
saving
staff,
time,
you're,
saving
us
resources
from
having
to
have
your
check,
mailed
out
to
to
Kansas
City
and
then
come
back
you're
saving
us
time.
In
terms
of
may
have
to
do,
audits
on
paper
trails
and
there's
there's
a
lot
of
other
benefits
to
to
having
a
automatic
bill
pay
and
eventually
this
might
roll
into
where
you
know.
If
you
have
a
paperless
billing.
J
Well,
we'll
give
you
a
credit
or
you
have
a
surcharge
if
you
want
to
have
a
paper
bill,
and
the
theory
here
is
that
we
are
using
a
fee
I,
don't
know
what
that
Felix
like,
and
the
concept
is
city
manager
or
which
the
council
majority
interested
in
reviewing
a
fee
to
do
a
water
bill
if
you're
paying
it
with
cash.
Your
check,
because
that
costs
us
more
time,
resources
and
energy
to
process
those
payments.
Just.
J
A
A
E
E
L
D
I
The
men
watch
out,
it's
almost
fun,
I'm
wait
for
it
stage,
right,
yeah
I
would
say:
no,
we
got
a
many
people
paying
for
casts.
I
mean
these
days
too
many
credit
cards
being
used.
I
would
say:
let's
incentivize
people
who
are
giving
you
cold
hard
casts.
You
know,
and
and
and
not
everybody
I
mean
you
know.
Like
Diana
said
not,
everybody
is
a
millennial,
not
everybody
has
the
same
situation,
so
I
think
it's
just
best
to
let
see
just
let
things
you
know
be
the
way
they.
K
So
you
do
not
have
to
have
a
credit
card
and
you
have
to
have
paperless
billing
and
if
you
did
not,
the
price
was
not
available.
It
was
actually
$10
more
per
month
in
the
private
sector.
I
think
that
that
is
more.
That
is
absolutely
the
direction
things
are
going
for.
All
the
reasons
outlined
is
the
biggest
being
that
staff
time
is
our
number
one
cost
Center
for
the
entire
city.
I
think
that
it's
fair
to
say,
65
percent
of
the
budget
deals
with
employees.
K
So
I
think,
though,
that
this
is
a
probably
a
bigger
first
step
than
people
in
Bloomington
are
used
to.
However,
I
would
support
getting
rid
of
fees
for
people
who
do
want
to
use
automatic
bill
pay
right
now
we
charged
a
convenience
fee
when
the
reality
of
the
people
that
it's
most
convenient
for
is
us
not
necessarily
the
end
user,
but
it's
actually
more
convenient
for
us
to
get
the
money
on
the
exact
day.
K
The
best
first
step
is
to
to
not
charge
people
who
want
to
do
the
thing
that
it's
most
convenient
for
us,
which
is
to
do
an
automatic
bill
pay,
so
I
would
absolutely
support
getting
rid
of
that
fee
and
collecting,
though
the
specialist,
since
ACH
withdrawal
from
checking
accounts,
it's
way
cheaper
than
the
credit
card
processing
fees.
Those
fees
are
there's
a
reason
why
there's
too
big
to
fail
banks
and
but
also
things
that
I
know
that
Tim
and
I
have
talked
about
in
the
past.
K
Like
things
you
know,
maybe
when
we
look
at
kiosks
that
are
downstairs
and
have
a
kiosk
where
you
can
come
in
and
you
can
put
your
money
into
the
kiosk
and
pay
your
bill
that
way,
instead
of
you
know,
there's
a
person
there
sometimes,
but
do
we
have
to
have
multiple
people,
staffing
them?
We
know
all
the
time.
Is
there
shared
opportunities
with
the
county
for
a
payment
window
of
some
sorts?
K
A
Right
I
think
the
consensus
is
that
there
is
not
support
for
staff
to
to
go
forward
with
this.
At
this
point,
is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
moved
by
all
the
woman
Schmidt?
Is
there
a
second
second
by?
Thank
you.
Everyone,
oh
okay,
Oh
before
I,
add
before
I.
Do
the
second
happy
birthday
dad
mayor,
happy
birthday,
all
a
woman,
Kim
Bray,
so
I
did
have.
I
did
I
have
a
first
bogie
who
was
the
first
okay
most
you
do
not
want
that.