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August 20, 2018 - Committee of the Whole City Council Meeting
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B
A
We
do
not
have
any
public
comment.
Is
that
correct,
okay
I
would
set?
It
said
what
yeah
we?
We
will
call
Ripley's,
Believe,
It
or
Not.
Next
we
have
a
print
in
direction
on
the
total
compensation,
study
of
15
minutes
and
turnover,
or
a
city
manager
or
an
hour.
I
guess
is
turning
it
over
to
Nicole
or
to.
C
E
Thanks
a
lot
Nicole
yep
and
our
goal
of
course
here,
it's
twofold
one
is
to
give
everyone
an
update
based
on
some
previous
dialogue
that
we've
all
had
together
and
different.
You
know:
I,
guess,
subsections
of
the
broader
group
educate
everyone
on
the
research
that
we've
done,
based
on
a
couple
consultant
groups
that
we're
a
part
of
and
have
reached
out
to
and
then
identify
our
next
steps
or
recommended
next
steps
for
further.
E
You
know
review
one
thing
I
do
want
to
call
out,
however,
is
in
terms
of
the
the
term
total
comp,
because
this
means
a
little
different.
You
know
not
everyone,
I
should
say,
as
an
employer
uses
the
term
total
compensation.
So
this
is
very
similar
to
what
many
employers
use
in
private
industry
when
they
talk
about
total
reward.
So
regardless
it's
a
combination
of
the
actual
earned
wages
and
any
other
intrinsic
benefit
that
someone
receives.
So
obviously
your
key
drivers
here
are
going
to
be
your
wages,
as
well
as
your
health,
insurance
subsidy.
E
One
is
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
spousal
eligibility
change
as
of
1
119
in
that
spouses
who
have
access
to
health
care
on
their
own
through
their
own
employer
or
will
no
longer
be
eligible
for
a
plan
that
will
go
into
effect
for
all
classified,
not
non-union
and
as
well
as
some
of
our
union
groups.
Another
is
the
from
a
health
insurance
standpoint.
We
are
anticipating
modest
health
insurance
changes
from
a
plan
design
perspective
and
we
are
planning
to
implement
a
high
deductible
health
plan,
so
that'll
be
new
for
the
city
of
Bloomington.
E
The
third
is
in
regards
to
IMR
F.
Currently,
the
plan
is
funded
at
ninety
seven
point:
five
percent
and
it's
an
essence,
fully
funded,
and
so,
as
a
result,
we
are
anticipating
a
fairly
significant
change
to
our
employer
rate
for
next
year.
At
almost
a
25%
decrease,
currently
we
pay
twelve
point:
seven
four
percent
wages
for
each
dollar
that
an
employee
is
paid
if
they
are
an
IMR
F
eligible
employee
next
year
is
anticipated
that
that
will
reduce
to
under
ten
percent
at
nine
point
nine
eight
percent.
E
So
those
are
some
things
that
will
change
the
levers
for
us
as
well,
but
in
regards
to,
of
course,
the
question
that
we
received
for
the
pay.
So
obviously
it
depends
on
if
someone
is
part
of
a
union
or
if
they
are
a
part
of
our
classified
non-union
group.
We
do,
as
everyone
has
already
aware,
work
with
the
Hay
Group
to
say
are
classified
non-union,
pay
matrices
based
on
data
that
they
have
available,
but
also
we
work
with
our
sister
cities
to
get
comps
for
some
of
our
other
key
positions.
E
You
know
police,
fire,
etc,
but
there's
always
additional
information
that
we
can
glean
to
make
sure
that
we're
paying
appropriately
for
all
city
employees,
and
so
that's
the
piece
of
course
we're
here
tonight
to
talk
about
before
we
dive
into
the
details.
I
do
want
to
talk
about
a
couple
themes
that
we
heard
from
actually
all
of
the
vendors
that
we
reached
out
to,
especially
in
regards
to
data
specific
to
municipal
positions
in
Illinois,
especially
if
they're
Union
one.
The
data
is
really
hard
to
get
at
it's
not
readily
available.
E
So
it's
a
little
different
than
the
benchmarking.
We
do
specific
to
wages
for
classified
non-union
group
as
you'd
expect.
The
second
is
the
Illinois
factor,
so
one
obviously,
as
we
all
know,
Illinois
is
a
very
high
cost
of
labor
state
us
being
down
state
any
data
that
we
glean.
We
will
also
have
to
remove
the
Chicago,
a
factor,
the
Chicago
impact
of
the
metropolitan
area,
so
we
don't
skew
the
results.
So
that's
another
piece
that
the
vendor
or
vendors
that
we
move
forward
with
will
need
to
do
for
us.
E
E
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
to
be
able
to
bring
that
back,
but
in
terms
of
next
steps-
and
this
is
really
what
we're
recommending
as
well-
is
that
a
custom
survey,
because
the
data
is
really
hard
to
get
at
in
the
municipal
space,
we
will
need
to
work
with
the
vendor.
Who
can
help
us
create
a
custom
survey?
Do
the
outreach
to
the
member
communities
that
we
agree
to
do,
and
probably
the
central
Illinois
area
that
we'd
want
to
focus
in
on?
They
would
then
grab
the
information
together
aggregate
it
down.
E
They
also
would
be
able
to
tell
us
from
a
prevalence
perspective
if
the
data
that
we're
getting
how
that
would
be
relative
to
the
broader
Illinois
market
and
even
to
the
region,
but
really
that's
what
we're
hoping
to
do
so.
You're,
probably
thinking
okay.
So
what's
the
pitch
and
and
really
what
we're
hoping
to
do
is
work
with
two
consultants
that
we've
worked
with
in
the
past.
The
first
one
is
the
Hay
Group,
not
surprisingly,
they
do
have
information
on
the
private
sector
side
specific
to
many
of
our
positions.
E
They
would
be
the
group
that
we
would
work
with
to
actually
create
the
custom
survey.
They
would
do
that
first
anywhere
from
seven
to
ten
positions.
Six
or
seven
community,
so
we'd
have
a
really
good
data
set
to
work
with,
and
then
we
could
incorporate
the
compensation
information
with
some
of
the
other
benchmarking
data
that
we
already
gleaned
from
similar
communities
in
regards
to
PPO
plan
design.
Things
like
that
and
so
out
the
door
costs
would
be
twenty
thousand
and
I
know.
E
Just
from
you
know,
previous
dialogue
that
Nicole
and
I
have
had
with
members
of
the
council,
that's
significantly
lost
and
what
we
anticipated.
Our
original
estimate
that
we
received
was
about
forty,
so
they're
able
to
I
guess
repetitive
processes,
you
know,
yield
some
good
financial
results
and
for
us
we
think
it's
the
most
cost
efficient
way
to
get
at
what
we're
looking
to
you
know
do
from
a
benchmarking
perspective,
but
be
fiscally
responsible.
E
So
I
leave
you
with
this.
You
know
that
is
a
recommendation
that
we'd
move
forward
with
using
bold
companies,
it's
a
little
different
than
what
we
originally
anticipated.
This
beam
from
a
next
step
standpoint,
but
we
think
it
will
get.
You
know
those
results.
Does
anyone
have
any
question?
That's
one
thing
we
want
to
cover.
The
other
piece
too,
is
in
terms
of
the
data
that
we
would
be
looking
to
incorporate,
not
to
put
anyone
on
the
spot.
E
Yes
and
very
similarly,
it
depends
on
which
subset
of
our
population
you're
looking
at
so
we
have
just
a
shade
over
600
employees
who
are
active
full-time
across
the
city.
That
does
include
the
library.
Sometimes
people
exclude
them.
Sometimes
they
don't
sorry
library
not
to
exclude
you
by
any
means
but
specific
to
the
classified
nonunion.
A
review
was
actually
done
last
year
and
so
the
recommended
pay
bans
from
the
Hay
Group
we
do
have.
Those
are
not
currently
in
effect,
so
currently
we're
operating
under
a
model
that
is
based
on
2013
data.
E
So
we
are
a
little
behind
in
that
respect,
but
from
a
union
perspective
for
every
contract
negotiation,
we
do
pull
in
information
on
our
come.
You
know
our
common
cities,
we
have
about
seven
and
we
work
through
that
for
each
CBA
Oh
real
quick.
We
the
last
time
we
used
the
management
association.
It
was
in
2013
as
well
as.
D
That
this
would
be
embarking
on
some
new
material,
though
so
the
city,
at
least
in
my
tenure
and
I,
believe
you
know,
I
can
look
to
Angie
historically,
has
never
done
a
total
comp
piece,
so
this
would
be
a
little
bit
new.
You
know:
we've
looked
at
base
salaries,
we've
looked
at
pieces
here
and
there,
but
we've
never
done
a
survey
that
really
tries
to
get
at
that
total
compensation
piece.
So
this
would
this
would
be
new.
E
And
part
of
it
too,
in
terms
of
you
know
where,
where
we
would
like
to
focus
our
F
and
I'm
sure
it's
no
surprise
to
anyone
here,
I
mean
anyone
he's
probably
in
the
audience.
But
when
you
look
at
our
group
of
600
individuals,
highly
diverse
in
many
respects,
one
in
terms
of
the
actual
jobs,
we
obviously
have
a
lot
of
different
departments,
different
needs,
but
even
embedded
within
they,
those
600
folks.
E
You
have
over
200
positions
roughly
about
225,
and
so
a
lot
of
our
methodology
that
we'd
like
to
use
is
similar
to
what
you
would
see
in
private
industry,
where
you
kind
of
have
to
focus
where
you're
gonna,
you
know.
Potentially
you
would
have
the
most
job
incumbents
so
that
you're
making
sure
that
you're
keepin
across
your
workforce
are
being
paid
appropriately.
G
G
D
G
The
idea
of
that
we
used
or
that
one
presentation
he
had,
which
was
pool
all
the
data
get
an
animai
anonymize,
all
the
data
pool
everything
from
McLean
County
and
then
reshare
that
data
back
out
to
all
of
the
employers
that
and
that
that
was
his
methodology.
Wasn't
it
Jiri
shared
it
out
to
everybody
that
was
kind
of
there
in
for
participating
in
the
survey?
Okay,
so
that
that's
basically
not
available
to
us
saying
were
at
this
point?
G
Okay,
how
are
we
going
to
get
the
the
McLean
County
comparables,
because
I
know
on
an
often
basis,
we
talked
about
getting
comparables
from
sister
cities.
What
my
perception
is
that
happens
when
we
do
those
sorts
of
things
is
that
neck
shir
champagne,
we'll
do
one
and
they'll
say
look
at
the
raises.
The
Bloomington
did
an
indicator
we'll
do
it
the
year
after
that
said,
look
what
champagne
in
Bloomington
did
and
it
it's
a
self-fulfilling
prophecy
in
a
circle
there.
G
E
Right
and
I
guess
it's
one
of
those
things
as
well,
that
you
know
six
and
one
and
half
a
dozen
in
the
other
I
think
the
way
to
do
any
sort
of
analysis.
Or
you
know,
research
project
like
this
is
to
get
consensus,
build
a
monster
group,
and
so
you
know,
even
if
we
have
councils
blessing
to
move
forward,
I
do
think
we
need
to
have
checkpoints
along
the
way
to
make
sure
that
council
is
comfortable
with
the
direction
that
we're
taking.
E
So,
for
example,
you
know
that's
no
different,
you
know
and
kind
of
my
previous
life
like,
let's
say,
you're,
looking
for
a
similar
position
at
an
insurance
company
which
ones
do
you
choose.
Do
you
base
it
by?
You
know
total
premiums
in
the
door.
Do
you
look
at
different
demographics?
You
know
within
the
market
that
they're
trying
to
look
for
it's,
it's
no
different
from
us.
It's
like!
Basically,
if
we
were
trying
to
you
know,
look
at
compensation
for
a
police
officer,
you
could
look
against.
E
You
know
a
town
of
a
similar
size
or
the
data
will
tell
you
whatever
you
want
it
to
tell
you
need
to
make
sure
it's
valid
and
accurate
and
so
I
think
part
of
it.
One
is
education
for
all
of
us
as
to
how
we're
going
to
embark
on
this
journey
and
make
sure
we're.
You
know
agreeable,
especially
at
certain
critical
points
throughout
the
process,
so
that
you
know
once
it's
done
whatever
that
data
tells
us.
We
all
agree
on
the
results,
because
sometimes
data
is
going
to
tell
you
what
you
don't
want
to
hear.
E
For
example,
you
know
in
government.
Obviously
there's
a
you
know
total
comp.
It's
never
an
easy
topic
to
talk
about
right.
Let's
just
be
frank,
but
sometimes
the
data
will
tell
you
you
maybe
you're
behind
market,
depending
on
what
your
goal
is.
So
you
know
whatever.
That
is.
We
just
all
need
to
be
ready
for
what
the
results
are
and
what
the
next
steps
are
for
each
position,
but.
D
E
G
Yep
one
of
the
data
points
that
I
would
like
to
see
in
the
Cole
you
and
I
have
talked
about
this
in
the
past.
Is
we
frequently
hear
about
sick
leave
buyback
and
we
know
that
our
residents
are
not
favorable
to
the
way
that
things
have
been
structured
in
the
past,
I'd
like
to
find
out
what
percentage
or
how
many
of
the
the
private
businesses
we're
talking
to
have
moved
away
from
sick
leave
as
a
concept
in
general
and
move
to
a
paid
time
off
model.
G
I
know
some
of
our
large
employers
in
the
area
have,
but
then
you
have
an
aggregate
where
vacation
goes
away
and
sick
leave
they're
no
longer
than
two
different
things
there,
one
pool
of
hours
that
you
can
use
and
if
you
need
them
to
take
care
of
sick
kids
at
home
or
you're
sick
yourself.
Great
go
do
that
and
if
you,
if
you
have
a
very
healthy
family-
and
you
want
to
take
some
of
those
days-
that's
extra
vacation
great
go.
Do
that.
G
But
it's
one
pool
that's
a
little
easier
because
in
my
mind,
moving
to
that
kind
of
a
model
makes
it
easier
for
us
to
budget,
but
also
moving
to
that
model
makes
it.
So
you
know
we
can
create
some
parameters
around
there
to
say
you
know
for
mental
health
sake.
You
have
to
take
a
minimum
of
five
days
in
one
shot
right.
G
E
I
saw
a
lot
of
in
my
previous
position
prior
to
join
the
city.
A
lot
of
private
industry
not
only
is
moving
to
the
PTO
bank.
I
know
we
had
a
larger
one
of
our
largest
employers
here
in
McLean
County,
who
did
that
several
years
back,
but
also
a
lot
of
employers
at
the
end
of
the
year.
They
will
buy
back
whatever
leave
you
don't
use
or
whatever
the
accrual
would
have
been,
but
they'll
do
it
for
50
cents
on
the
dollar,
for
example,
and
they
would
put
it
in
like
a
401k
account
or
457.
E
H
H
You
know
I'm
kind
of
torn
on
this
one
in
the
sense
that
I
get
that
we
want
to
try
to
get
a
good
benchmark
on
where
we're
at,
but
I
guess
I,
don't
want
to
have
us,
go
out
and
get
two
studies
or
if
we
can
get
the
hey
group
or
whoever
else
to
weigh
in
on
this,
that
we're
gonna
get
a
report
at
the
end
of
it.
That's
kind
of
a
shelf
somewhere.
H
I
would
imagine
that
no
matter
what
comes
back
the
whenever
the
outcome
is
going
to
be
controversial
in
some
way,
that's
on
the
one
hand,
on
the
other
hand,
what
Jamie's
talking
about
it
I
totally
agree
with
I
think
we
need
to
be
revamping
how
we
restructure
benefits,
time
off
and
any
compensation
in
general,
but
we
can't
do
that
unless
we
have
some
sort
of
baseline
understanding
of
what
that
recommendation
would
look
like.
So
I
guess
my
question
is
more
for
Tim.
H
C
H
H
I
I
want
to
know
that
before
we
get
into
a
meeting
where
it
becomes
the
headline
and
now
we're
having
to
have
that
conversation
in
public,
but
I
think
it
goes
without
saying
that
that
we
have
to
make
some
major
changes
to
how
we
structure
our
city
and
how
benefits
and
time
off
and
and
how
we
compensate
our
employees
needs
to
be
looked
at
very
carefully
and
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you
both
have
done
when
it
comes
to
benefits
like
spousal
information
and
and
that.
But
we
need
to
see
more
of
that.
E
Real
quick,
just
a
you
know
to
your
point:
if
I
were
in
your
shoes,
so
a
lot
of
the
the
benefits
components
we
can
get
on
our
own
pretty
readily.
So
you
know
whether
it's
police
fire,
you
know,
funding
rates
or
I
am
RF
funding
rates.
We
can
get
that
from
all
of
our
comparables.
We
met
with
Springfield,
for
example.
What,
then,
you
know
the
last
couple
months
and
I
believe
there
I
am
are
afraid,
is
like
15
to
16
percent.
E
I
A
I
F
I,
you
know
I
I,
think
just
the
exercise,
if
I'm
understanding,
correctly
you're
joshing
Nicole
of
seeing
where
our
City
compensation
our
total
compensation
package
fits
as
far
as
not
just
a
number
of
base,
page
people,
but
what
kinds
of
benefits
people
are
getting,
how
they're
being
delivered
almost
like?
Oh,
like
a
structure
change,
it
could
be
so
we
could
be
informed
about
that.
F
Whether
or
not
we
decided
to
then
take
action
would
really
be
premature
to
comment
on
that
at
this
time,
but
I
think
just
being
informed
about
that
and
how
things
are
structured
and
what
are
some
of
the
new
models
for
total
compensation
and
you've
touched
a
little
bit
on
the
PTO
bank
and
that
kind
of
thing
I
mean
just
going
into
that.
Maybe
that
doesn't
translate
into
a
number.
Maybe
that
just
translates
into
a
structure
change
or
just
some
significant
updating,
potentially
to
to
our
HR
interactions.
Yeah.
E
And
and
the
group
that
you
know
we're
playing
a
partner
for
the
majority
of
the
work,
Management
Association,
of
course,
actually
one
of
the
members
there
I
worked
with
in
one
of
my
previous
lives.
They
focus
heavily
on
true
calm,
the
dollars.
How
much
is
someone
making
in
terms
of
their
salary,
but
they
can
do
the
other
components
of
total
comp
as
well,
and
so
I
think
just
having
this
discussion
kind
of
helps
this
level
set
on
where
maybe
we
need
to
focus
in
regards
to
the
time
away
from
work?
E
And-
and
so
maybe
you
know,
we
get
our
ducks
in
row
a
little
bit.
You
know
stop
to
your
point
and
we
would
come
back
and
talk
about
again
areas
of
focus
that
we
would
want
to
move
forward
with
you
know.
Maybe
pay
might
not
be
the
number
one
driver,
maybe
it's
other
pieces,
and
then
we
could
make
sure
we're
all
on
the
same
page
in
terms
of
priority
and
check
ends.
And
then
you
know
no
matter
what
we
would
get.
It
would
be
something
we
could
incorporate
into
our
methodology,
move
them
forward.
Okay,.
A
A
K
Wait
and
then
laughing
thank
you
and
I
feel
like
all
the
woman
Bray
I
took
the
point
that
I
was
trying
to
make,
but
I
think
it
would
be
educational,
you
know,
and
they
say
it
doesn't
matter
which
direction
we
go
in
my
opinion,
but
I.
You
know
over
the
years
I've
heard
a
lot
of
anecdotal
information.
K
You
know
that
people
are,
you
know,
tend
to
talk
about,
but
I
I
I
actually
don't
know
that
for
sure
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
people
are
better
compensate
in
the
private
sector
or
you
know
in
the
public
sector.
So
I'd
like
to
know
that
for
sure
and
in
relation
to
that,
I
was
actually
wondering
if
the
information
could
also
include
bonuses
that
people
get
paid
in
a
private
sector.
So
we
have
a
you
know.
A
global
picture
of
the
whole
thing.
Thank.
G
Mathy
actually
I
just
wanted
to
ask
about
the
the
total
time
frame
of
this
project.
You
know
I
was
I,
guess
I
was
thinking.
This
was
going
to
be
a
three
or
four
month
thing
and
then
Scott's
like
well
quarterly
check
it
and
I
was
like
well
quarterly
check
in
how
long
does
this
take
so
I
just
want
to
get
an
idea.
Yeah.
E
And
and
I
don't
want
to
spit
ball
here
on
the
fly
by
any
means,
but
a
part
of
it
depends
on
the
level
of
answers
from
the
council.
So
you
know
Diana
to
your
point.
What
are
we
going
to
do
with
the
information
part
of
it?
You
know.
Is
that
process,
but
based
on
conversations
that
I've
had
the
data
a
group
is
available,
they
will
need
to
do
some
manipulation.
Manipulation
is
a
bad
word,
but
they
need
to
refine
it
a
little
bit
to
get
it
to
be
exactly
what
we
need
from
a
usability
perspective.
E
The
piece
that's
going
to
take
a
little
longer
time
is
going
to
be
the
work
that
we
do
with
Management
Association.
Of
course
we
will
be
building
consensus
with
them
and
I
would
like
to
have
it
with
what
the
council
as
well.
So
there
aren't
any
curveballs
throughout
the
process,
but
not
only
on
the
check-ins,
but
the
content
of
what
that
survey
is
but
realistic.
Realistically,
what
Kathryn
our
contact
had
told
me
is.
Typically,
you
are
looking
at
a
good
two
month
window
two
to
three
month
window,
but
it's
not
the
work
that
they
do.
E
It's
making
sure,
depending
on
how
extensive
we
want
our
survey,
you
know
kind
of
with
data
garbage
in
garbage
out.
You
want
to
make
sure
it's.
You
know
solid
work,
but
it's
getting
the
folks
who
are
actually
in
the
HR
groups
at
the
communities.
You
do
outreach
to
give
them
ample
time
to
actually
fill
it
out
correctly,
and
so
that
was
one
of
their
lessons
learned.
You
realistically
want
to
give
someone-
probably
a
solid
month
to
do
that,
because
we're
not
going
to
be
asking
them
questions
as
an
HR.
I
A
Right
I
think
you've
got
your
directions
and
you've
answered
questions.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Tim.
Next
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
presentation,
discussion,
direction
of
future
agenda
topics
and
we
move
to
the
city
manager
reports
and
then
we
have
council
initiatives.
Thank.
C
You
mayor
under
five,
a
the
city
manager
report,
it's
in
everybody's
packet
of
the
upcoming
non-routine
agenda
items
and
I,
don't
know
what
the
expectation
is,
but
I'm
gonna
walk
through
these.
If
you
don't
mind
the
first
one
is
going
to
be
presented
by
the
water
department,
director,
Bob
Yale
August
27th
we're
going
to
bring
forward
the
leaf
Protection
and
private
sewers
private
water
services
lines.
C
Presentation.
A
company
will
come
in
and
actually
present
that
the
council
for
consideration
an
item
that
is
not
under
August
27th
and
we
think
that
it
will
make
the
August
27th
council
meeting
is
an
ordinance
change
proposal
for
council
to
change
all
of
our
council
meetings.
The
first
in
the
third
council
meeting
and
the
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting.
They
have
a
start
time
at
6:00
p.m.
and
that's
to
take
away
what
seems
to
be
the
routine
special
meeting.
C
That's
attached
on
the
front
end
of
the
council
meeting
and
Jerry
has
worked
with
the
township
to
make
sure
that
that
works
with
them
as
well.
They
would
have
a
start
time
at
5:30,
preferably
5:45,
and
if
their
meeting
ran
long,
which
it
typically
does
not,
it
would
just
push
us
back
a
little
bit
start
time.
So
that'll
be
an
agenda
item
most
likely
on
August
27th
on
September
10th.
We
have
a
change
order.
That's
coming
forward
to
st.
Peter
aquifer.
C
This
will
be
Bob
DL,
again,
item
number
two
that
we
know
at
this
time
and
any
of
these
could
change
rental
assistance
program,
agreement
for
the
former
Bloomington
high
school
building
and
just
an
additional
comment,
at
least
from
my
vantage
point.
You
talk
about
a
home
run
that
this
council
and
staff
hit
regarding
this
topic.
It's
not
unlikely.
It's
not
uncommon,
for
municipalities
to
be
I'll
use
the
word
straddled
with
old
school
buildings
and
old
churches
and
the
opportunity
that
you
guys
acted
on
with
this
17
million
dollar
investment.
C
It's
a
huge
one,
I
believe
for
the
community,
and
then
this
proposal
will
be
the
consideration
of
a
cap
of
up
to
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
help
offset
some
of
the
low-income
elderly
residential
that
could
be
occupants
of
this
project.
But
that's
something
that
will
come:
September
10th
business
registration-
this
is
something
that's
been
discussed
and
I.
Think
world
we've
landed
as
staff
I
believe
at
the
direction
of
council.
Prior
to
my
arrival,
there
would
be
a
relatively
low
registration
fee,
one
time
and
then
an
annual
renewal
that's
required.
C
This
definitely
is
not.
You
know
a
grab
at
trying
to
create
a
new
revenue
stream.
This
is
true
cost
for
staff
time,
and
the
value
in
this
is
just
having
that
database
of
businesses
that
operate
in
our
community.
So
it's
a
huge
opportunity,
there's
an
additionally
another
thing
that
we'll
provide
is,
you
know
a
three
or
a
five
step:
registration
online
using
technology
and
the
payment
component
at
the
Berrien
for
that
one
time,
initial
renewal
and
then
the
other
trailing
opportunities
that
we
see
using
technology.
So
that's
a
kickoff
to
that
as
well.
C
Fee
increase
in
ordinance
was
something
that
staff
was
directed.
I
believe
that
the
budget
preparation,
time
and
staff
has
worked
on
a
number
of
areas
very
tedious
at
times
to
make
sure
that
the
different
codes
that
we
have,
that
we've
thoroughly
looked
through
everything,
but
the
one
thing
that
staff
did
I
again
I
believe
at
the
direction
of
council
is
the
fees
will
not
exceed
that
of
the
town
of
normal.
So
there
should
not
be
concerned
there.
Also
these
fees
and
permitting
costs
you
blink
your
eyes
and
you're.
C
A
C
C
You
know
an
action
item
that
allows
and
provides
that
the
aldermen
will
submit
a
written
document
and
the
venue
for
that
to
be
shared
will
be
at
the
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting
and
then
the
council
member
or
the
aldermen
that
brought
that
forward.
It
will
be
briefly
explained
in
the
agenda.
The
actual
formal
request
will
be
attached
in
the
agenda
and
then
council
is
left
with
three
possibilities
once
presented
by
the
by
the
aldermen,
and
that
is
to
have
the
minutes.
Have
the
initiative
placed
on
the
future
City
Council
agenda
for
further
consideration?
C
A
I
We've
obviously
had
a
lot
of
discussion
about
Lake
Bloomington
over
the
past
few
months
and
I.
Don't
know
that
having
and
I
know
we
can't
legally
have
a
representative
on
the
council,
but
one
I
don't
have
a
firm
idea
of
what
this
would
look
like,
but
one
thought
I
had
was
rotating
who
a
contact
would
be
on
council
for
the
Lake
Bloomington
folks,
so
maybe
a
year
at
a
time
and
just
rotate
it
through
or
voluntarily.
I
Somebody
takes
it
on
perhaps
attend
if
that
person
would
potentially
attend
the
the
monthly
Lake
Bloomington
Association
meetings
to
develop
a
relationship
with
LBA
board
and
and
be
a
conduit
or
the
300
plus
residents,
the
220
to
live
on
the
lake
and
and
others
that
live
adjacent,
that
hold
leases
on
city
property.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
interest.
If
people
have
ideas
on
how
the
lake
Bloomington
Association
folks
could
be
represented,
I'm
open
for
ideas.
I
Well,
there
was
some
documentation.
Some
document
we
saw
that
indicated
I
can't
remember
who
it
was
now,
is
their
liaison
to
the
city,
and
so
I'd
like
to
know
more
about
what
their
structure
and
in
communication
is
before.
We
would
really
dive
in
to
this
and
I've
not
seen
anything
in
writing.
I
dealt
with
Dale,
Strauss
I
would
said
well,
I'm
your
I'm
Malaya's
on
to
the
city,
and
it's
like
really
and
I
said
what
does
that
mean,
and
he
got
the
idea
that
wasn't?
That
was
not
a
fully
fleshed
out
kind
of
structure.
H
H
You
know
in
doing
Lake,
Bloomington
conversation
or
at
the
docks
I
couldn't
have
found
more
disparate
views
from
various
people
on
those
topics
and
and
really
I
think
the
onus
would
be
on
them
to
have
someone
that
is
elected
by
their
group.
That
speaks
for
the
group
that
we
can
interact
with
in
those
situations.
I
don't
know
if
we
would
be
able
to
even
have
one
Alderman
if,
but
we
have
to
get
one
alderman
I
probably
recommend
all
to
a
woman,
painter,
she's,
unable.
I
H
F
And
I
appreciate
those
thoughts
got
and
it
was
kind
of
thinking
on
the
same
lines
and
in
addition
to
that,
many
of
the
folks
up
at
like
Lake
Bloomington,
live
within
the
words
and
the
Lake
Bloomington
house
is
a
second
house,
a
second
a
getaway
house,
so
they're
represented
through
the
fact
that
they
are
the
own
primary
primary
residences
within
the
wood
system
is
in
my
experience
but
I
you
know.
Thank
you
Scott
for
that
I
appreciate
your
idea.
Other.
I
J
Think
we'll
approximate,
probably
60%
of
the
people,
are
year-round
residents
but
I
couldn't
approximately
how
many
individuals
have
them
as
second
homes
or
may
live
between
and
have
representation
with
somebody
around
the
horseshoe
as
well.
But
there
are
a
number
of
people
we
found
that
do
live
in
Bloomington
as
well
to
have
a
residence
to
play.
Bloomington.
K
B
K
A
I
I
I
They
don't
they
don't
have
somebody
that
they
can
just
automatically
call
up.
If
they
and
say
hey,
I've
got
a
question
or
we
need
help
like
like
I've
got
people.
You
know
each
of
us
have
constituents
that
that
call
us,
because
they
know
that
we're
their
first
point
of
contact,
the
folks
that
live
it
year-round
at
Lake
Bloomington.
They
don't
have
other
representation.
Don't
have
that.
I
Could
consider
them
an
interest
group,
but
the
people
that
represents
are
represented
on
the
chamber.
We're
not
we're
not
we're
not
representing
those
people
in
terms
of
enacting
ordinances
and
so
forth
that
affect
their
personal
property.
The
chamber
is
a
business.
Organ
is
represents
businesses
in
the
community,
okay,.
G
My
understanding
of
this
process
is
not
to
solve
the
issue
right
now,
but
to
determine
whether
or
not
we
think
that
there's
more
spending
staff
time
on
it.
So
since
it's
pretty
obvious
that
we
all
have
some
questions
that
we
don't
know
the
answers
to
right
now,
for
instance,
legally
can
we
have
representation
out
there
right
I
mean
what
is
the
legal
aspect
of
that
and
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
So
I
would
say
that,
yes,
this
is
worth
to
me.
G
A
G
A
H
You
it
and
I
hear
that
you
brought
this
about
a
year
ago,
I
feel
like
maybe
a
little
less
than
that
you
know
this
is
this
is
becoming
a
little
triggering,
because
this
is
like
the
fourth
or
fifth
conversation
as
many
months
that
we've
talked
about
Lake
Bloomington,
when
there
are
problems
in
Bloomington
that
we've
either
just
done
a
cursory
glance
over
or
not
done
a
deep
dive
into
so
I
really
have
no
interest
in
investigating
this.
Much
further
would
be
my
opinion
and
I'd.
H
Rather
us
focus
on
things
that
are
more
pressing
like
intersections
in
our
community
are
they're
the
most
safe
that
they
can
be.
How
can
we
expand
the
Constitution
Trail
O'neil
pool
all
things
that
are
impacting
our
residents
here
instead
of
talking
about
a
bunch
of
folks
who
have,
in
some
cases,
almost
million
dollars
worth
of
property?
It's
troubling
to
me,
okay,.
A
I
A
I
A
I
I
I've
had
some
discussions
with
folks
with
it
Lake
Bloomington,
who
need
to
move
their
septic
tanks
and
I
became
aware
of
apparently
a
policy
that
we
have
related
to
trees,
that
if
a
lake
Bloomington
resident
wants
to
remove
trees
from
their
property,
they
are,
they
there
assess
the
cost
of
those
trees.
That's
in
addition
to
having
the
trees
removed.
I
Okay-
and
this
is
probably
going
to
come
up
more
or
my
sense-
is
we're
going
to
be
hearing
about
it
more
because
when
you
need
to
move
a
septic
tank,
replace
the
septic
tank,
you
can't
replace
it
where
it
was.
You
have
to
move
it,
and
so,
when
you
move
it,
then,
because,
as
I
learned
tonight,
1%
of
all
trees
and
McClain
McClain
County
are
around
Lake
Bloomington
residents
that
are
there
that
are
going
to
need
to
move
their
septic
tanks
are
going
to
be,
are
going
to
have
the
same
problem
so
I.
I
A
Would
assume
that
we
that
they
they
may
remove
trees
like
we
remove
trees
from
our
own
property?
If
we
lease
the
property
for
99
years
or
ask
it's
more
than
that,
isn't
it
at
Lake
Bloomington,
it's
well
over
a
hundred
years,
that'd
be
our
responsibility
to
take
care
of
our
own
trees,
but
I
don't
know!
Is
that
you're
nodding
your
head
dirty?
No,
that's
not
right!.
B
G
I
What
I
found
was
that
the
the
one
resident
was
going
to
be
assessed
if
memory
serves
me
right,
like
$30,000,
for
their
trees
again,
this
doesn't.
My
sister
does
not
include
the
cost
of
removing
the
trees.
This
is
just
permission
to
remove
the
trees,
to
be
able
to
replace
their
septic
tank
because
of
the
age
and
the
number
of
trees
that
would
have
to
be
removed.
So
I.
I
I
A
A
J
We
utilize
a
procedure
that
goes
back
about
ten
years
to
determine
valuation
of
trees.
It
started
with
coordination
between
administration
ourselves
when
a
residents
start
cutting
down
trees
about
permission.
These
provisions
are
in
place
that
indicate
that
they
need
our
permission
to
remove
trees
on
the
leased
property.
We
view
trees
as
a
very
positive
impact
to
water
quality,
urban
forestry,
aesthetics
and
property
values
similar
to
what
we
do
on
the
right
away
here
in
town.
So
we
use
the
same
assessment
procedures
as
we
do
in
town
for
trees
in
the
right-of-way.
J
In
fact,
we
ask
the
forester
from
the
Parks
and
Rec
Department
to
come
up
and
assess
these
trees.
We
found
the
original
procedure
going
on
ten
years
ago,
assessed
the
full
value.
Wasn't
very
resident
friendly,
didn't
get
cooperation
very
well
so
about
three
years
ago
we
adjusted
from
what
the
arborist,
the
Forester
used
Ella
noise,
certified
arborist
procedures.
We
assess
and
discount
that
eighty
percent,
so
every
tree
is
going
to
be
have
a
different
valuation
based
on
the
tree,
the
breath
the
health
of
that
tree.
J
J
We
chose
twenty
percent
that
felt
that
gave
us
enough
monies
to
go
replant
trees
in
the
public
right
away,
so
in
our
public
parks,
so
we
may
get
two
or
three
or
four
trees
based
on
the
discounted
assessed
value
that
provides
benefits
to
water
quality
and
public
spaces.
From
that
assessment,
it's
very
similar
people
approach,
Parks
and
Rec
say
we
want
to
remove
that
trainer
right
away
for
a
sidewalk
for
a
driveway
for
a
private
improvement.
J
J
On
the
same
page,
we
were
out
there
three
and
four
and
five
times
to
help
to
minimize
the
impacts
and
still
meet
the
the
septic
requirements
we
met
with
the
health
health
department
came
up
an
alternate
plan
that
they
would
approve
that
we
were
to
prove
that
minimized
their
assessed
value.
We've
done
this
a
number
of
times.
We
have
monies
that
when
we
take
in
we
budget
for
the
next
year
and
we'll
plant
the
trees
when
appropriate.
A
Reduce
the
need
to
elaborate.
No
thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
At
this
point,
then
any
will
just
get
an
update
on
some
things.
Some
like
Bloomington
issues,
is
that
correct
Tim
is
that,
okay
with
you
agreed,
okay,
we
all
okay
with
that
all
right
speaking
event,
then
we
just
for
the
the
audience
and
the
media.
We
were
going
to
go
into
a
closed
session
when
we
come
back.
We
will
not
be
talking
about
anything,
but
you
are
certainly
welcome
to
come
back
to
hear
us
talk
about
nothing
so.