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November 21, 2016 - Committee of the Whole City Council Meeting
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A
A
B
C
B
Thank
you
very
much
and
we're
going
to
start
with
a
really
really
fun
part
of
our
meeting
and
we
have
award
certificates
for
the
Bloomington
101
participants
and
Nora.
Would
you
please
come
forward
Thank,
You
Nora?
This
is
part
of
our
movement
toward
you
know.
Openness
and
transparency
across
the
board
and
I
want
to
thank
nor
for
taking
the
lead
on
this,
and
if
you
just
give
us
a
real
quick
backdrop
of
background
of
the
Bloomington
101
of.
D
Course,
and
thank
you
mayor
council
and
city
manager
Hales
for
supporting
this
program.
We
have
just
completed
our
fifth
session
of
Bloomington
101,
which
is
an
excellent
opportunity
for
our
citizens
to
get
better
informed
and
better
involved
with
their
local
community
in
their
local
government.
We
cover
all
topics
from
Parks
and
Rec
to
fire
and
police
and
everything
in
between,
including
giving
our
participants
the
opportunity
to
sit
in
your
chairs
as
well
and
grapple
with
some
of
the
decisions,
the
difficult
decisions
you
have
to
make
all
of
the
time
and.
B
They
probably
don't
know
that
their
names
were
up
here
and
then,
when
we
voted,
it
did
not
show
hey
Holman
in
women,
but
anyway,
Thank,
You,
Nora
and
and
David
for
really
taking
the
lead
on
this
and
doing
a
great
job.
The
people
who've
gone
through
just
continue
to
sing
praises
and
they
continue
to
help
feed
our
boarding,
Commission
appointments
and
get
involved
in
people
who
might
not
have
in
the
absence
of
all
of
your
efforts.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
D
You
and
thank
you
to
those
participants
and
those
that
could
join
us
here
this
evening.
It's
really
amazing
to
see
people
take
ten
weeks,
two
hours
every
week
to
devote
themselves
to
this
activity.
So
thank
you
for
supporting
it
and
thank
you
all
who
participate
and
will
open
applications
again
for
the
spring
in
January.
So
with
that
matter,.
B
If
you'd
like
all
right,
yeah
actually
just
do
well,
excuse
me
want
to
come
over
here,
but
then
I'll
hand
them
to
you
can
both
shake
everyone's
hand.
Andy
thinks
Andy's
not
well.
Thank
you
me.
Eddie
participating,
oh
I,
know
she's
here
sure.
Excuse
me
Cheryl
thing.
Oh.
B
B
B
B
E
E
B
You
we
just
as
everyone
knows
that
if
you
want
to
actually
have
a
dialogue
and
extend
talk
to
us
and
maybe
get
answers
in
real
time,
we
do
have
a
mayor's
open
house
every
Friday
before
a
Monday
city
council,
meeting
from
4
30
to
50,
you
don't
have
to
make
an
appointment,
doesn't
have
to
be
on
dealing
with
the
topic.
That's
on
the
agenda,
so
please
feel
free
to
stop
by
otherwise.
In
public
comment,
we
don't
respond
next,
a
consideration
of
proving
a
committee
to
hold
minutes
of
October
17
2016.
B
B
And
your
names
are
back
on
just
FYI
820,
okay,
all
right!
Next,
we
move
to
presentation
of
two
projects
for
the
one
voice
advocacy
program
in
March
2017
and
just
for
the
audience's
clarification.
The
one
voice
is
a
project
were
in
March
community
leaders
from
Bloomington
Normal,
McClain,
County,
business
labor,
people
of
all
political
stripes
go
to
Washington,
and
we
advocate
with
one
voice
for
programs
or
projects
that
will
benefit
our
community
so
going
to
turn
it
over
to
mr.
karge
Thank.
F
You,
mayor,
City,
Council
and
city
manager,
Hales
tonight
should
be
very
brief.
It's
really
a
primer
for
next
win
the
next
Monday
night,
where
we're
going
to
be
asking
you
to
take
action
on
a
couple
of
different
items:
they're
going
to
be
two
projects,
we're
going
to
be
discussing
that
you're
very
familiar
with
one
of
them
is
hamilton
road
project.
First
will
brief
the
projects
this
one
we've
talked
about
quite
a
long
time.
It's
somewhere
between
14
and
15
million
dollars.
It
is
hole
in
the
donut
we've
talked
about.
F
It
has
economic
development
impact,
it
has
connectivity
impact
and
it
also
has
safety
impact
at
the
intersection
of
roads
and
morrissey.
That
intersection
is
one
where
that
would
be
going
away.
When
this
project
is
complete,
this
road
would
be
anticipating
to
handle
about
15,000
vehicles
a
day
and
it
would
be
the
major
southern
east-west
corridor
throughout
Bloomington
and
the
council
in
past
councils
invested
about
20
million
dollars
to
date
on
this
corridor.
So
this
would
kind
of
be
that
last
piece
keeping
in
mind.
I'd
also
like
to
point
out.
F
We
already
are
on
target
with
the
Fox
Creek
Bridge
bike
to
Danbury
to
continue
that
work
on
that
project,
so
that
has
not
changed
this.
This
is
a
discussion
on
the
hamilton
road
bunda.
Commerce.
Whole.
The
next
project.
To
briefly
discuss
is
the
main
street
corridor
yeah.
This
is
business
51,
and
this
is
one
that
you'll
recall.
F
We
actually
went
for
a
tiger
grant
discussing
with
really
funded
by
and
promoted
by,
the
Illinois
Department
of
Transportation,
Bloomington,
Normal
and
McClain
County
all
came
together
and
other
key
stakeholders
to
try
to
really
advocate
for
a
corridor
project
right
through
the
heart
of
the
community.
This
is
one
where
we
were
looking
at
redoing,
the
road
entirely,
looking
at
everything
from
Complete,
Streets,
making
sure
the
road
itself
and
some
of
the
underground
infrastructure
everything
is,
is
stable
and
sufficient
to
handle
what
it
what
it
has
again.
F
This
is
a
major
key,
a
regional
impact,
and
so
because
of
that
this
is
another
project
we're
looking
at
what
what
are
we?
What
are
we
asking
for
next
week
of
both
of
these
projects?
First,
one
for
one
voice
for
one
voice,
as
the
mayor
mentioned.
Really
in
March
of
2017,
it
is
a
multi,
a
lot
of
different
stakeholders
all
going
to
Washington
DC
to
advocate
for
some
different
projects
with
our
major
elected
officials
and
so
we're
asking
for
two
different
things
from
you
as
a
council.
F
Next
Monday
night,
one
support
for
the
to
be
a
regional
partner
as
well
with
this
Main
Street
project,
so
we're
wanting
to
submit
an
application
to
EDC
so
that
we
can
be
considered,
and
we
can
you
know
we
can
consider
this
project
for
that
larger
regional
impact,
town
of
normals.
Doing
the
same
thing.
We
have
been
told
that
so
you're
also
kind
of
partnering
with
them
and
others
in
the
area
on
that
project.
The
second
one
is
one
voice
for
the
hamilton
road
bunda
commerce.
For
multiple
years
the
council
has
had
that
project.
F
As
a
high
priority
project,
we've
tried
for
Tiger
grants,
Fastlane
grants,
we've
tried
for
every
different
type
of
funding
source.
We've
continued
to
move
forward
with
phase
one
of
that
project,
and
it
is
coming
to
the
point
where
we
are
working
with
administration
on.
When
is
that
key
time
for
us
to
have
to
make
a
decision
on
funding,
and
so
we've
continued
to
try
to
find
alternate
funding
sources
so
far
unsuccessfully,
and
this
is
one
more
attempt
if
we
can
either
get
one
voice
assistance
or
if
we
can
get
fast
lane
assistance.
F
That's
the
other
one.
We're
trying
to
supplement
our
own
funds
on
that,
but
but
we're
getting
to
the
point.
Its
key
we've
talked
about
this
before,
but
it's
coming
soon
to
where
we
have
to
make
a
decision
on
this
project,
whether
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
alternate
funding.
That
would
be
all
city
funding.
So
with
that
being
said,
this
is
short
and
sweet
and
I'll
leave
the
rest
of
the
time
for
questions
in
preparation
for
next
Monday
night
questions.
G
Thanks
Jim,
we
have
talked
about
these
for
a
long
time
and
without
seeing
the
report
next
monday,
I
suspect
I'm
going
to
be
very
supportive
of
both
of
them.
I
hope
at
some
time
our
council
can
talk
about
all
the
projects,
the
road
projects
that
we've
identified
most
recently,
the
one
that's
been
in
the
papers,
euclid
in
washington
and
I've,
been
out
there
to
see
that
it
just
seems
to
me
that
we've
got
all
this
conversation
in
our
retreats
and
everything
else
that
we
always
talk
about.
We've
got
too
much
on
our
plate.
G
We
can't
do
it
all
so.
I
hate
to
see
us
redo
engineering
studies
with
regard
to
roads
and
and
I
know.
We've
done
at
at
times
had
to
reduce
some
design
work.
Some
engineering
work
in
years
past
and
I
just
hope.
Our
council
can
have
some
discussion
to
see
where
these
things
are
on
our
priority
list
and
let's
focus
on
the
ones
we
can't
commit
to
and
can't
get
done,
and
if
we
don't
have
enough
money
to
go
down
the
list
too
far.
I
one
voice
but
I,
say
I
would
suggest
that
we
back
off.
G
H
You
obviously
we
know
that
competition
for
these
particular
grants,
the
federal
level
are
always
very.
It's
always
very,
very
competitive
is
the
funding
level,
though,
do
we
know
if
it's
been
steady,
we're
both
of
these
I
know
that
they
passed
a
five,
your
transportation
bill.
Will
it
stay
steady
as
a
result
of
that
or
we
could?
We
expect
changes
based
on
the
most
recent
election?
What.
F
We're
hearing
is
that
we
do
anticipate
some
changes
coming
in
the
next
year
for
overall
funding.
You
know
the
the
the
level
and
where
it's
going
to
be
at
even
if
Tiger
will
be
renewed.
We
don't
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
on
you
know,
will
it
be
the
same
type
of
funding
source?
Will
they
come
up
with
some
new
acronyms?
You
know
who
knows,
but
the
bottom
line
is
there.
Do
we
do
anticipate
on
seeing
some
changes?
F
There's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
and
the
transportation
boards
on
what's
going
to
be
happening,
so,
yes,
that
is
that
is
accurate,
so
it
can
be.
It
could
also
be
very
supportive.
There's
been,
as
we
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
increased
investment
in
infrastructure,
but
that's
that's
wonderful
talk
and
it
will
be
glad
to
see
some
actual
funds
coming
our
way.
All.
F
I
And
Madison,
and
and
just
wondering
about
some
of
the
ideas
that
are
put
forth
their
and
how
they
might
roll
into
this
I
know
downtown
Bloomington
workers
and
residents
are
interested
in
thinking.
You
know
adopting
some
of
those
ideas,
so
I
don't
know
whether
they're
in
you
know,
if
there's
any
kind
of
tension
between
what
you
think
might
come
out
of
this,
assuming
it's
funded
or
yeah.
F
I
think
there
will
be
some
just
being
honest,
I
think
there
will
be
some
tension.
I
think
that
Illinois
Department
of
Transportation,
some
of
the
ideas
that
came
up
with
as
far
as
Road
diets
and
doing
some
of
these
have
been
been
tough
for
illinois
department
of
transportation,
while
I
think
we've
looked
inside
the,
for
example,
painting
traffic
control
boxes.
That's
a
good
example:
we've
been
able
to
paint
those
inside
of
the
yelling
out
of
the
couplet
there,
but
where
we
haven't
been
able
to
receive
permission
to
do
that
on
more
of
the
state
routes.
F
So
the
point
is:
is
it
actually
is
state-controlled
right
of
way?
There
is,
though,
I
will
give
full
credit
to
I
dot.
There
is
some
movement
as
far
as
seeing
the
welcoming
more
of
this.
You
know
that
complete
Street
concept,
so
there
has
been
some
shifts
within
the
state
in
that
direction,
but
that
the
plan
itself
that
original
plan
you're
referring
to
does
have
quite
a
bit
outside
of
the
box.
It
also
will
have
some
extra
costs
that
maybe
I
doubt
would
be
open
to
of
the
city
were
to
partner
with
them.
F
I
J
You
and
thank
you
Jim
I'll,
be
brief.
We've
talked
about
this
countless
time
since
I've
been
up
here
other
than
the
bridge
issue,
which
I
think
is
a
critical
need
due
to
a
safety
issue,
I've
kind
of
reached
and
the
Rope
of
my
interest
on
the
Bund
of
Commerce
piece
I
mean
we've
brought
this
on
one
voice.
It's
been
rejecting
them
in
helmet.
What's
the
definition
of
insanity
and
I?
K
F
F
For
about
a
15
million
dollar
job
in
coordination
with
a
railroad,
we
actually
have
a
timeline
and
a
schedule
that
we
would
be
glad
to
send
out
to
the
council,
but
it
lays
out
the
various
phases
of
design
to
land
acquisition
and
for
a
project
that
size
20
19
is
about
as
soon
as
it
could
get
underway.
Okay,
okay,.
K
B
L
Bob,
thank
you
about
very
much
good
evening.
Thank
You
mayor
City
Council,
the
manager
hails
it's
with
pleasure.
I
get
to
speak
to
you
about
the
culinary
water
capital
improvement
plan.
All
myself
and
all
the
staff
is
excited
that
I'm
up
here.
Speaking
to
you,
we're
going
to
discuss
it
in
a
kind
of
programmatic
coma
probe.
I
can
stalker
there
today,
programmatically
or
divisional
type
of
manner
we're
going
to
outline
throughout
those
projects
they're
going
to
focus
on
regulatory
compliance,
water
quality
and
customer
service.
L
So
everything
we're
going
to
go
through
fits
into
one
of
those
and
make
sure
that
we
are
meeting
all
regulations.
So
we've
listed
a
lot
up
on
the
screen:
we're
not
going
to
eat
every
single
one
of
them
mercifully
will
leave
out
billing
and
collections
and
lake
parks,
maintenance
and
infrastructure.
So
with
that
we'll
start
going
through,
but
before
I
go
to
my
programs,
this
is
says:
resurfacing
coordination,
its
transmission
distribution
as
well
I'm,
going
to
kind
of
carry
on
with
what
mr.
karch
has
been
talking
with
the
resurfacing
program.
L
L
A
lot
of
discussion,
but,
as
you
can
see,
water
main
is
one
of
the
utility
infrastructure
is
underground,
we're
in
the
process
of
evaluating,
prioritized
and
determine
where
those
are,
but
we
just
simply
need
some
more
time
to
to
get
caught
up.
Also,
just
last
point
on
that
is
with
water
main
does
line.
There
is
design
involved.
There
is
permanent
involved,
there's
EPA
permit,
so
the
process
to
go
from
we
want
to
do
a
project
to
actually
be
in
shovel-ready,
takes
a
little
bit
longer
than
some
might
think.
L
So,
just
putting
that
in
the
back
of
your
mind
as
we
go
forward,
we're
going
to
start
with
the
administration
planning
per
se
infrastructure
master
plan,
though
the
water
department
certainly
has
a
number
of
plans
and
reports
that
have
been
over
the
years.
Most
all
of
them
are
pretty
dated.
They
all
need
to
be
updated.
In
some
sense,
they
all
need
to
be
collated
together,
help
us
determine
what
that
master
plan
looks
like
for
the
department
in
general,
with
streets
sewer
and
storm
they're
a
little
bit
ahead
of
us
in
this
game.
L
So
one
of
the
projects
were
we
have
in
this
year's
fiscal
year
is
to
do
an
infrastructure.
Master
plan
helps
guide
there.
We
go
that
years
forward,
so
capital
improvement
plan
I'm
presenting
tonight
and
is
in
there
most
likely
to
change
a
little
bit
after.
We
have
some
additional
research
and
review
on
that
water
rate
study.
L
Project
management.
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
around
the
horseshoe
mr.
Hales
as
well.
We
have
an
outside
consultant,
that's
in
our
office.
He
joined
us
about
eight
or
nine
months
ago.
Since
then,
we've
also
had
our
full-time
engineer
position
that
was
vacant
forever
yet
filled.
It's
really
been
the
catalyst
to
allow
us
to
dig
into
some
of
our
projects
to
dig
into
our
priorities
to
dig
in
and
help
support
our
superintendents
that
do
the
operation
maintenance
on
a
day
to
day
business.
L
Mostly,
we
focus
on
operations
and
maintenance
with
some
billing
and
cash
collections,
and
now
we've
got
some
support,
some
expertise
to
help
us
through
these
type
of
processes
which
we're
talking
about
tonight.
So
I.
Thank
you
for
that.
With
that
being
said,
we
still
don't
have
enough
horsepower
we're
doing
a
lot
of
design
this
year,
which
is
great
I,
brought
a
lot
of
stuff
to
there's
still
more
to
come
the
next
few
months,
but
to
be
honest
with
you,
we
don't
have
the
staff
to
go,
inspect
and
observe
the
construction.
L
That's
going
to
come
next
year
next
to
you
and
the
ones
after
that.
So
in
next
year's
budget,
we're
proposing
requesting
additional
conntrack
administration
work
to
come
in
and
help
us
watch
a
number
of
projects
to
make
sure
the
infrastructure
goes
in
correctly
future
water
supply
planning.
What
had
the
pleasure
bringing
the
st.
Peter
aquifer
to
you
a
number
of
months
ago?
L
The
draft
justification
report
is
very
close
to
being
done,
we're
going
to
start
on
design
with
the
intent
of
getting
that
ready
for
bidding
at
this
fiscal
year
that
will
guide
us
into
the
reconfiguration
of
the
plant.
Let
us
know
how
much
water
is
available
and
also
kind
of
set
the
tone
or
the
timeframe
for
where
we
need
to
look
in
the
southwest,
well
field
or
nitrate
removals
and
all
those
types
of
things.
L
This
I
have
to
thank
Russ,
Waller
and
facilities
on
the
screen
here.
They've
stepped
up
and
our
have
offered
to
help
us
with
a
few
projects
up
there,
the
pitcher
in
the
bottom
right.
We
did
not
photoshop
to
snow
in
there
and
I'd
be
fibbing
if
I
said
that
with
snow
from
last
year.
But
what
you're
seeing
is
our
main
gas
line
coming
into
the
plant?
That's
not
quite
buried
the
whole
entire
way,
so
Russ
and
his
staff
have
volunteered
to
help
us
design
and
get
that
buried
again.
L
We
also
have
some
roofs
that
need
to
replace
their
age
their
leaking.
You
had
to
do
repairs
recently,
those
boilers
if
anybody's
been
at
the
plant.
You
know
it's
not
a
well-conditioned
location,
but
there
are
some
areas.
We
need
to
condition
it
with
some
basic
heating
and
cooling,
so
they
volunteered
to
help
us
with
those
as
well
again
still
on
the
plants
and
treatment.
The
top
left
is
like
Bloomington.
The
bottom
right
is
Lake
evergreen.
Those
are
I'm
going
to
use
the
same
terminology
aged
infrastructure.
We
haven't
done
a
lot
to
those
spillways.
L
We,
of
course,
replaced
the
Evergreen
bridge
some
them
a
couple
years
ago,
but
the
spillway
itself,
the
drainage
around
them.
It's
undermining,
there's
a
lot
of
faults
in
the
concrete.
We
need
to
do
joint
sealing
to
make
sure
we
maintain
our
infrastructure
and
keep
it
there
for
years
to
come
so
we're
working
through
to
finalize
design
contractor.
We
hope
to
bring
to
you
in
the
next
couple
of
months
as
well.
L
Against
Delta
plant
REE
carbonation
bypass
every
process
at
the
plant
has
a
certain
million
gallons
a
day.
Capaz
we've
repurposed
our
Carberry
carbonation
basins
to
a
secondary
settling
basin,
but
everything
still
goes
through
that
it's
not
necessary
the
primary
treatment,
but
it's
a
helpful
treatment.
We're
looking
at
ways
to
bypass
that
when
we
need
to
produce
a
higher
quantity
of
water,
so
we
can
get
more
out
of
the
plant
and
meet
the
needs
of
our
customers.
L
So
we're
going
to
look
to
way
to
divert
some
of
that
water
past
that,
but
still
go
through
the
rest
of
the
treatment
train,
we're
doing
some
of
the
initial
stuff
in-house.
With
the
resources
I
mentioned
earlier
from
the
survey
from
the
locate
from
the
initial
thought
design,
but
we're
bringing
that
144
some
additional
help
in
the
near
future
as
well.
The
bottom
right,
though,
you
can
see
it's
well-maintained,
pristine
clean.
You
can
tell
it's
aged
just
by
the
decor.
That
is
the
filter
gallery
in
the
original
plant.
Those
filters,
some
are
non
operational.
L
The
pieces
and
parts
have
been
scavenged
for
other
filters,
so
we
need
to
go
in
there
and
then
your
future
and
either
rebuild
those
or
look
at
to
see
if
we
want
to
expand
new
filters
in
the
new
building
shoreline
I've
brought
a
couple
projects
for
since
I
joined
the
water
department.
Thankfully,
you've
been
supportive
of
that.
We
are
currently
underway
at
the
one
that
was
approved
a
couple
months
ago
at
Evergreen
near
the
campground.
It's
a
new
pilot
project,
innovative
technique.
L
L
Electrical
conversions:
the
top
right,
is
the
pumping
station
at
Lake
evergreen.
When
we
pop
from
Lake
evergreen,
it
gets
pipes
from
Lake
ever
going
to
Lake
Bloomington.
A
portion
of
that
station
is
on
480
volts.
A
portion
on
is
2,400
volts.
We're
going
to
bring
that
project
forth,
probably
in
December
for
you
to
allow
us
to
hopefully
allow
us
to
do
a
consultant
design
to
bring
the
2400
volt
down
to
480
volt.
It
allows
us
to
work
on
our
system.
It's
more
cost.
L
L
Top
right
this
one.
Where
is
it
noticeable
seed
tomorrow?
It's
the
arc
flash
or
it's
an
incident
and
energy
from
electoral
equipment
that
can
flash
out
towards
somebody
working
on
equipment.
You've
approved
that
one
recently
too,
we're
working
forth
on
that.
One
bottom
left
is
a
great
project,
its
supervisory
control
and
acquisition
data.
It's
the
SCADA
system,
it's
kind
of
the
eyes
and
ears,
the
recording
and
the
controls
of
our
system.
Everything
comes
back
to
certain
monitors.
We
can
see
certain
things.
We
can
control
certain
things.
L
It's
done
with
the
programming
language
that
only
a
few
people
can
understand
and
obviously
parts
that
we
can't
replace.
So
we
replace
some
parts
and
put
the
old
parts
on
the
shelf
so
that
one's
coming.
We're
all
excited
about
that
to
bring
that
from
decades
ago,
to
the
current
stage,
to
where
I
could
actually
log
on
and
see
our
plants
to
doing
what
is
producing
an
interface
with
operators,
maintenance,
storage.
We
have
about
well
2020,
1.4
million
gallons
of
water,
finished
water
and
storage.
L
If
you
think
about
that
for
a
minute,
that's
a
lot
of
water.
It's
spread
out
in
a
couple
different
spots.
We
haven't
given
it
due
diligence,
as
we
should
recently
to
inspect
those
tanks,
both
underground
above
ground
and
at
ground
level,
and
so
will
be
wanting
to
review
those
to
make
certain
that
we
don't
have
any
infrastructure
that
will
cost
more
in
the
future
if
we
could
repair
something
small
at
this
time.
L
Some
of
that's
a
visual
inspection,
some
of
it's
sticking,
a
camera
down
the
tank
and
letting
the
little
robot
go
around
so
I
could
go
through
the
rest.
I
try
not
to
talk
about
all
of
them,
just
kind
of
give
you
a
brush
of
everything
going
on
transmission
distribution.
This
is
what
I'm
sure
the
crowd
behind
me
is
going
to
Pete
perk
up
pay
attention
and
I'll
start
with
this.
What
I'm,
showing
on
here
doesn't
necessary
show
the
top
five.
It
shows
the
great
need
we
need
to
rebuild
our
replacement
program.
L
The
one
in
the
bottom
left
is
Eric
drive,
it's
one
that
wasn't
in.
Actually,
if
you
go
back
to
the
june
july
issue
into
the
draft
capital
and
prune
plan,
not
there,
we've
had
a
lot
of
breaks,
a
lot
of
leaks
out
there.
It's
kind
of
filtered
itself
to
the
top
by
nature.
It's
one.
We
have
to
look
at
and
we're
looking
to
see
if
we
can't
still
design
that
and
construct
it
redo
that
one
next
year.
So
as
the
public
is
looking
at
this,
it
isn't
the
priority.
It's
just
a
a
breadth
of
need.
L
We're
stepping
back
trying
to
assess
our
system
determine
priorities.
We
enforce.
They
don't
have
a
great
rating
system
on
our
water
mains.
You've
seen
lots
of
street
ratings
you've
seen
lots
of
sewer
ratings.
If
you're
going
to
ask
me
for
a
rating
for
the
water
mains
I'm
going
to
tell
you,
I
can
tell
you
where
the
main
breaks
were
over
the
past
six
or
eight
years,
and
that's
the
extent
of
what
we
have
so
we're
working
on
updating
the
GIS,
updating
our
water
model,
updating
our
rating
structure.
L
So
we
can
start
picking
those
out
and
seeing
where
we
really
need
to
focus
our
effort
and
that's
we
say,
350
to
400
miles
again
we're
updating
GIS
to
be
a
little
bit
more
accurate,
so,
but
just
in
the
breadth
of
Breathitt
of
that
I
just
want
to
show
that
how
many
miles
there
are
on
that
again,
transmission
and
distribution.
We
talked
about
more.
The
distribution
means
in
the
subdivisions.
Transmission
means,
which
you
can
see
are
much
larger.
In
this
case.
One
of
the
projects
that's
critical
to
us
is
the
pressure
control
stations.
L
We
need
to
install
valves
when
it
comes
into
town
at
Fort
Jesse,
where
most
the
water
comes
in
and
again
at
Division
Street
to
help
maintain
and
ensure
we
have
the
minimum
regulatory
pressures
that
the
EPA
are
looking
for
to
make
certain
we're,
providing
the
quality
water
that
everybody
deserves,
so
that
one's
being
fast-tracked
in
as
well.
It's
one
that
we've
recently
discovered
that
didn't
get
done
completely
so
that
one's
coming
as
well.
L
There's
also,
we
need
to
do
more
research,
but
the
master
plan
will
help
us
there's
about
three
and
a
half
miles
of
36
inch
water
main
that
what
hasn't
been
installed
up
near
the
plant
that
allow
us
to
retire.
Some
of
our
own
mains
increase
our
capacity.
So
on
the
high
uses
times,
we
can
make
sure
we
get
the
water
into
town.
L
I'm
going
to
touch
on
the
leak
detection,
water
loss
prevention-
it's
often
referred
to
as
non-revenue
water
water
that
we
produce
that
we're
not
able
to
bill
for
so
we
would
be
very
much
remiss
if
we
weren't
looking
for
ways
to
minimize
that
we're
striving
to
create
cost-effective
service
for
our
customers.
We
need
to
put
an
emphasis
on
that
leak
detection.
We
have
a
program
right
now,
but
we
think
we
could
do
it
better.
L
We're
going
to
create
an
RFQ
to
get
the
best
equipment
best
personnel
they
can
come
in
and
scour
our
system
over
the
course
of
three
or
four
years
also
enable
our
staff
to
do
some
stuff
on
a
day
to
day
basis.
As
things
come
up,
so
we
can
minimize
that
it's
usually
estimated
based
on
the
amount
of
water
being
lost.
L
We
can
focus
our
resources
where
they
need
to
be
see
if
it's
something
we
can
do
with
our
personnel
and
equipment
and
in
the
end,
provide
the
most
cost-effective
water
to
our
customers
and
not
produce
it.
If
we
don't
have
to
be
remiss
if
I
left
meters
out
we're
approximately
96
to
97
percent
done
with
our
RF
meter
program
for
residential,
it's
been
quite
a
process.
I
know
it's
taken
a
number
of
years.
It
certainly
slowed
down
dramatically
these
past
couple
of
years
and
specifically
last
couple
of
months.
L
L
We've
convinced
everybody
yet
so,
though,
we're
still
doing
that
I
think
last
month
we
did
150
of
those,
so
we're
still
moving
forward,
but
more
focused
on
our
larger
meters,
the
meters
that
we
currently
have
in
the
system
that
don't
turn
unless
a
lot
of
water
goes
through
it.
So
if
it's
not
turning
we're,
not
billing
for
it,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
is
paying
for
what
they're
using
so
again,
it's
fair
across
the
system.
Those
are
more
expensive.
L
We
do
less
of
them
at
a
time,
but
our
staff
spends
a
lot
of
time
sorting
through
lists.
Looking
at
return
on
investment
and
focusing
on
the
bigger
compound
meters
that
you
have
a
question
about
funding,
you
can
see
in
here
approximately
27
million
dollars.
We
do
have
funding
for
the
next
several
years,
so
we're
in
a
good
place
to
that
to
be
there
if
I'll
say
successful.
L
M
st.
Peter
Wells
and
how
that's
playing
into
this
kind
of
interim
water
supply,
I
phase,
which
they've
heard
a
lot
about
and
then
secondly,
talk
a
little
bit
11
master
plan
they
haven't
seen
is
the
so-called
culinary
water
system
master
plan.
If
you
just
talk
about
what
they
can,
you
know
expect
to
see
in
the
future
as
we
try
to
address
that
as
well.
Jerk.
Thank.
L
You
David
the
interim
and
future
water
supplying
plan
for
a
good
majority
of
time
was
focused
in
the
southwest
a
lot
of
discussion
with
different
groups,
different
partner
agencies,
about
how
that
might
be
interconnected
with
different
surface
water,
different
environmental
aspects
we
need
to
go
through.
It's
also
got
a
price
tag
of
you
know
tens
of
millions
of
dollars.
So
from
our
point
of
view,
we're
looking
for
something
that
we
can
get
better
bang
for
the
buck
per
se.
L
We've
got
a
great
facility
up
at
Lake,
Bloomington
it
through
an
Illinois,
State
water,
Survey
study
of
the
Northern
Illinois.
It's
indicated
that
it's
great
potential
to
drill
down
about
2,000
feet,
get
additional
water
from
ground
wells.
It
will
supplement
the
nitrate
water
that
we
get
from
the
reservoirs
it'll
be
able
to
dilute
that
make
the
treatment
of
nitrates
less
get
more
water
for
the
higher
higher
demand
times
and
may
delay
needing
to
go
to
the
southwest
well
field.
Also,
coupled
into
that,
doesn't
have
anything
to
the
st.
Pete,
but
a
lot
of
conservation
efforts.
L
A
lot
of
people
are
being
more
conservation
minded
the
facilities
in
our
restrooms
he's
a
lot
less
water,
so
that
demand
that
we
were
seeing
five
and
six
years
ago,
just
going
up,
has
really
peaked
off
and
come
and
leveling
off
its,
not
just
a
bloomington
trend,
not
just
a
bloomington-normal
trend.
It's
a
nationwide
trend,
if
you
search
that,
so
our
challenge
is
to
find
something
more
cost-effective
that
meets
the
needs
today
and
make
sure
we're
still
planning
for
the
future.
L
So
the
southwest
well
feels
certainly
something
we're
going
to
continue
to
talk
about
and
I
know.
I've
got
some
interest
in
my
email
box
just
from
the
article
that
was
in
the
paper
and
will
address,
but
I
don't
see
that
in
the
next
year
or
two
we're
going
to
really
focus
on
the
st.
Pete
and
see
what
that
can
do
for
us
and
see
if
we
get
a
lot
more
benefit
for
a
lower
cost.
Okay,.
L
On
that
water
master
plan,
we've
got
a
lot
of
aged
reports.
My
back
table
is
full
of
them.
Some
have
been
moved
word,
a
lot
of
them
have
not.
We
need.
We
need
a
consultant.
Come
on
board,
consolidate,
coordinate
those
make
sure
we
have
the
best
practices
in
mind.
The
newest
technologies
in
mind
make
certain
we
can
help
prioritize
and
utilize
the
resources
we
do
have
moving
in
the
future
two
and
five
and
ten
and
twenty
years
so
they're
going
to
take
a
lot
of
time
to
meet
with
our
staff
to
discuss
what
it
is.
L
We
actually
do
what's
in
place,
they're
going
to
look
at
the
other
plans,
help
us
craft
that
together.
There
also
will
ask
them
to
look
at
future
development.
Where
should
we
put
transmission
mains
throughout
the
community
and
maybe
try
to
reserve
that
for
future
development?
It's
we
try
to
protect
the
corridors
were
in,
but
we
realize
in
the
future.
We
need
to
have
some
more
placement
as
well.
Those
as
well
so
it'll
help
us
plan
how
the
infrastructure,
but
a
little
bit
of
future
planning
as
well.
K
Ultimate
age,
thank
you
thanks
Bob,
and
this
is
always
as
good
work.
I'm
noticed
that
that's
what's
missing
from
the
water
supply
and
future
planning-
and
maybe
it's
it's
in
there,
but
it
just
not
illustrated
here
it's
the
Mohammed
aquifer.
So
maybe
a
quick
comment
on
that
and
or
then
maybe
a
kind
of
a
compare
and
contrast
between
the
Muhammad
and
the
st.
Peter
aquifer
and
first
of
all,
I
mean
this
is
the
Muhammad
I
mean
that
has
been
literally
the
talk
since
I've
been
here.
It.
L
Has
been
the
talk
and
with
the
recent
Illinois
State
water,
Survey
study
of
Northern
Illinois,
it's
become
an
option
that
we're
just
becoming
aware
of
in
the
last
year
or
two
years,
they've
also
come
on
board.
We
have
a
contract
with
the
only
State
water
Survey
to
help
the
consultant.
We
have
on
board
for
that
drilling
project.
To
make
certain
we
do
our
analysis
properly
to
make
sure
the
conditions
are
appropriate.
L
L
is
much
shallower
aquifer
has
potential
to
be
I,
guess
influenced
from
surface
water
as
well,
where
this
does
not
as
much
so
it's
a
this
is
a
lot
less
potential
to
impact
private
wells,
but
when
I
say
South
us
well
field
that
might
even
that
might
be
the
finger
of
the
Mohammed
but
I
know,
there's
obviously,
discussion
about
going
a
west
and
hitting
the
core
of
the
Mohammed
I
know.
There's
discussion
about
regional
water
planning
and
supply.
This
doesn't
negate
those
options.
This
is
just
I.
I
Thank
you.
Bout
is
a
great
presentation
and
really
good
overview.
I
think
my
quote:
I
have
a
couple
questions
and
I
think
they're,
probably
more
for
David.
First
of
all,
can
you
remind
us
about
where
we
are
with
the
water
rate
study
and
then
I
want
to
try
to
get
a
better
sense
of
how
all
of
these
different
potential
rate
increases
might
be
affecting
our
residents.
So
we've
got
street
resurfacing.
We've
got
that
budget.
We've
talked
about
stormwater
and
and
there's
you
know,
increase
now.
I
M
L
It's
a
project
we're
proposing
after
the
infrastructure
master
plan
is
complete.
It's
we
anticipate
being
able
to
fund
our
projects
for
two
to
three
years,
so
in
the
next
couple
of
years,
will
do
that
rate
study
and
bring
that
back
for
further
discussion
at
that
time.
Anecdotally,
looking
at
different
studies
that
come
across
my
desk
from
Illinois
we're
in
the
probably
the
bottom,
forty
percent
bottom.
Third,
we
don't
crack
the
top
half
as
far
as
our
rate,
so
we're
very
cost-effective
for
our
customers.
M
M
We
do
know
what
the
needs
are
and
we
can
kind
of
phase
them
in
overtime
and
unfortunately,
sometimes
we
haven't
had
that,
and
this
five-year
CIP
will
go
a
long
ways
to
lay
now
just
what
we
have
the
existing
funding
to
do,
but
also
what
we
don't
have
funding
and
and,
as
we've
said
before,
sanitary
sewer,
ins,
ins
and
stormwater
is
just
the
opposite
of
the
culinary
water,
fun
or
Enterprise
Fund.
It's
I
think
we're
have
about
at
20
million
money,
plus
20
plus
million
in
reserves.
M
We
have
I
think
it's
stormwater
less
than
a
million
and
sanitary
sewer,
it's
it's
very,
very
low.
So
the
need
is
much
greater
in
those
other
two
but
ultimately
and
which,
but
the
this
master
plan
will
help
us
start
to
reserve
a
lot
of
that
money
in
culinary
water.
In
fact,
as
you
see
the
five
years
and
even
as
Bob
pointed
out
that
we've
got
a
very
aggressive
capital
improvement
program
that
will
start
drawing
down
on
that
money
which
will
delay
the
need
to
K
either
borrow
issue
debt
or
raise
rate,
but
over
time.
M
What
we
have
to
put
in
place
is
an
ongoing
process
to
evaluate
rates,
because
our
costs
will
continue
to
go
up
for
materials
labor
things
like
that,
but
hopefully
one
day
in
the
near
future,
you'll
see
a
20-year
culinary
water
capital
improvement
plan
the
same
for
every
one
of
these
other
infrastructures
and
they'll
be
well
integrated,
but
it'll
take
some
time.
I.
I
Guess
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
our
message
is
really
clear
that
we're
not
we're
not
adding
on
incrementally
for
different
kinds
of
of
projects,
capital
improvement
projects
so
I
would
you
know
people
may
think
that
you
know
okay
there,
there
services
still
may
be
going
up,
X
percent
for
storm
water
and
then
surprise.
Six
months
later,.
M
I
think
that's
what
the
five
year
in
in
fact,
unfortunately,
the
big
story
I
think
in
the
five
years
going
to
be:
what's
not
in
there?
What
we
don't
have
you
know
financial
reserves
to
spend
money
on
so
to
me,
sometimes
it's
almost
as
important
is
what's
unfunded
and
you
know
water
was
pretty
healthy
to
be
able
to
fund
what
is
it
eight
million
or
something?
But
that's
not
going
to
be
the
case
on
some
of
these
others.
One
last
comment
to
I.
You
know
with
all
the
talk
of
street
resurfacing.
M
I
know
just
the
eight
years
I've
been
here.
It
seems
like
culinary
water,
storm
water,
sanitary
sewer
have
always
been
following
up
and
trying
to
keep
pace
with
street
resurfacing,
which
which
is
good,
it's
a
positive,
but
sometimes
it's
been
at
the
detriment
of
pursuing
other
water
related
projects
that
unfortunately
continue
to
get
pushed
to
the
back,
because
we're
trying
to
keep
up
with
the
street
resurfacing
and
I
think
you're
going
to
continue
to
see
that
and
in
fact
one
of
the
thoughts
as
and
maybe
I'll
just
mention
this
to
is
going
forward.
M
We're
still
going
to
be
on
a
fast
track
to
help
the
council
be
in
a
position
in
February
March
to
consider
and
approve
a
five-year
balanced,
and
I
want
to
emphasize
balanced
five-year
capital
improvement
program
and
that
particular
program
is
we'll
talk
in
the
weeks
ahead.
We'll
have
some
element
of
some
borrowing
so
that
we
can
keep
up
with
both
a
street
a
very
robust,
aggressive
street
resurfacing,
but
it's
also
going
to
try
and
fix
what,
unfortunately,
has
been
the
case
in
the
past.
M
We've
got
to
start
addressing
these
other
projects
which
are
unrelated
to
some
of
those
street
resurfacing,
or
we
just
can
perpetuate
you
know
continuing
to
get
behind
so
you'll
see
more
of
that
and
Jim
I.
Think
in
your
comment.
I
just
wanted
that
that
is
going
to
be
the
time
when
you
adopt
that
five-year
plan.
M
That's
where
you're
going
to
establish
your
priorities
and
things
like
Hamilton
button,
the
Commerce
or
you
know
even
the
project
over
there
with
the
Fox
Creek
Road
bridge
replacement
and
some
of
these
others
they'll
they'll
either
have
the
projects
will
be
in
there
if
there's
funding,
and
if
there
is
no
funding,
they
won't
be
in
there.
That
will
be
the
definitive
time
in
which
you
establish
those
priorities
and
even
those
where
we
maybe
you're,
proposing
borrowing
money.
M
You
know
we'll
be
in
there
and
that's
when
you
say
this
is
what
we
can
do,
but
we
can't
do
all
these
other
projects,
not
because
we
wouldn't
like
to,
but
we've
had
to
draw
the
line
based
on
what
you
find
is
that
tolerance
level
for
either
current
future
revenues
or
how
we
achieve
that
intergenerational
equity
on
funding?
What
in
some
cases
are
decades-long
deferred
maintenance
in
many
many
areas
on
and.
N
L
Well,
I'll
start
with
the
latter
I.
Many
of
them
are
critical,
I'll
tie
into
what
David
said:
we've
had
aids
infrastructure
that
been
neglected
for
some
time.
If
we
don't
address
some
of
these,
it
will
be
very
difficult
to
continue
to
produce
the
water
and
meet
regulations
and
allow
people
to
turn
their
taps
on.
L
I
think
that
it
would
be
hard
for
me
to
elevate
the
water
supply
above
some
of
our
maintenance
at
the
plant,
be
harder
to
delineate
those
from
some
of
our
transmission
mains
in
our
neighborhoods
to
make
certain
we
distribute
it
to
somebody.
Our
department
is
so
intermixed
across
the
different
divisions
or
programs,
it's
very
hard
to
delineate
which
one
is
more
important
than
the
other
one.
L
Yeah
time
frame,
wise
they're
spread
out
of
the
course
of
the
over
the
course
of
the
five
years
and
up
to
10
years,
and
as
David
mentioned,
he
is
committing
me
to
a
20-year
plan
and
we
were
working
towards
that
when
we
prepared
for
this
fiscal
year,
we
scheduled
stuff
out
about
10
years,
we're
not
to
the
20
year
yet
overthinking
longer
term
to
see
what
those
are.
Some
of
them
in
here,
as
we're
going
through,
may
be
shifted
out
a
couple
years.
L
N
L
Current
project
this
council
approved
us
to
enter
into
a
consulting
contract
number
of
months
ago.
It's
finishing
up
the
justification
study
to
make
certain
that's
justifiable,
of
what
we're
going
to
do.
They're
also
designing
the
wells
that
we're
going
to
drill
those
test
wells,
the
intent
that
have
that
design
done
in
bid
before
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year
to
utilize.
The
funds
have
been
set
aside,
so
we
can
award
a
contract
so
that
they
can
start
drilling
and
doing
their
fieldwork
next
summer.
Okay,.
M
My
god,
Oh
mayor
could
I
just
add
to
I
think
it's
important
to
point
out.
St.
Peter
aquifer
wells
are
also
taking
the
place
of
some
of
the
Southwest
swell
field
project.
In
fact,
if
I
see
it
as
a
cost-saving
alternative
to
try
to
not
only
push
off
some
of
the
ion
exchange
that
we
is
very
costly,
we're
trying
to
push
to
the
future,
this
could
help
us,
but
also
it
can
help
us
again
push
off
to
the
future.
M
Some
of
the
southwest,
well
field
and
finally,
I
think
at
some
point
before
that
we
would
one
the
council
the
weigh
in
on
a
very
expensive
potential,
Southwest,
well
field,
I.
Think
we're
going
to
also
be
looking
at
the
mohammed
aquifer,
because
those
two
very
expensive,
but
also
potentially
competing
projects
I
think
we
need
to
do
some
very
serious
financial
analysis
because
it
may
be
going
to
the
mohammed
aquifer
could
be
as
sufficient
as
maybe
the
other,
with
a
higher
success
rate.
M
B
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
highlight
a
couple:
bring
your
focus
back
to
some
of
the
staffing
challenges
that
you
faced
in
recent
years
and
you
brought
up
some
consultants
that
might
fill
in
some
gaps
here
and
there,
and
your
department
has
done
this
in
the
past,
where,
whenever
you
bring
on
somebody
from
the
outside
to
help
bring
in
perspective
or
work
on
a
project
specific,
you
really
helped
out
line
to
the
public.
You
know
the
real
need
for
that
and
why
it's
a
better
alternative
for
the
taxpayer.
J
Some
of
these
things
I'm
seeing
our
kind
of
perennial
issues
that
you
highlighted
in
your
presentation.
So
my
question
is:
would
it
be
beneficial
to
just
bring
on
a
staff
member
for
some
of
these
project
management
type
issues,
or
is
it
more
fiscally
responsible
to
continue
on
a
per
project
consultant
type
basis?
We're.
L
Currently,
we
have
hired
outside
consultant
as
one
of
the
engineering
staff
members.
We
also
build
the
full-time
position
a
couple
months
after
that,
so
we
have
two
full-time
engineering
bodies.
Looking
at
this
now,
we've
crafted
this
as
a
pilot
project,
be
able
to
discern
answers
to
the
questions
that
you're
asking
I.
Think
that
it's
too
early
to
tell
we,
the
water
department,
was
very
behind
in
some
of
this
planning
and
thought
process.
L
So
to
put
two
people
working
side
by
side
to
catch
us
up
is
going
to
take
a
year
or
the
two
year
contract
to
see
if
it's
needed
to
continue
to
full-time
employees
after
that
or
if
we
get
to
a
certain
point.
One
can
maintain
that
after
we
get
a
lot
of
the
breath
or
products
out
of
the
way,
so
I'd
like
to
defer
answering
that
for
another
six
or
eight
months,
and
let
you
let
you
know
that
if
that's
okay,
absolutely.
J
And
I
appreciate
that,
because
he's
the
type
of
things
that
we
need
you
to
find
out,
what's
the
best
most
efficient
way
of
doing
business
and
na,
I
applaud
your
department
in
doing
so
I.
Just
from
where
I
said,
I
think
it's
been
really
a
good
conversation.
We've
had
up
here
and
I
hope
that
giving
you
the
clarity
that
you
need,
but
again
a
lot
of
the
feedback
I
get
from
people
as
we
hire
too
many
consultants
and
if
it
does
ultimately
get
a
better
value
than
a
full
time
staff.
O
Thank
you
right.
I
guess
my
my
question
was
going
in
somewhat
of
a
similar
direction
because
I,
I
know
that
in
talking
with
Jim
cars
about
streets,
we
often
talk
about
our
capacity
to
do
things.
You
know,
we've
talked
about
doing
word
for
by
eight
to
ten
million
dollars,
and
that's
about
the
most
we
can
do
so.
I
was
kind
of
curious
from
a
human
capital
in
the
area.
O
L
Tried
to
budget
approximately
five
to
six
million
dollars
worth
of
capital
improvements
in
a
given
year.
That's
what
we
feel
with
our
current
staffing
level,
with
the
addition
of
some
consultants
to
help
us
with
the
field
observation
I
mentioned
in
the
presentation
is
something
that
we
can
realistically
cover.
If
we
push
beyond
that
with
our
current
staff
as
well
as
that
additional
resource
for
the
field,
we
won't
be
able
to
cover
that
I.
Think
that's
kind
of
the
point
I
was
trying
to
hit
on
with
the
resurfacing
program.
L
We
struggle
to
support
gym
in
his
normal
everyday
program.
If
we
bump
that
up,
that's
going
to
be
above
the
capacity
unless
I
do
what
David
looted
to
is
defer
some
of
the
other
projects
and
strictly
focus
on
support
of
the
resurfacing
which
does
not
catch
us
up
across
the
system
which
dot
is
in
dire
need.
G
B
G
Thank
you.
I
think
this
more
of
a
comment,
but
you're
welcome
to
respond
and
I'll
tie
it
together
with.
I
think
one
of
david
strengths
in
recent
years
has
been
all
the
master
planning
and
a
roadmap
work
that
has
been
lacking
for
so
long
and
he's
tried
to
pull
all
this
together.
So
I'm
a
big
fan
that
needs
to
be
done.