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A
B
D
Good
evening,
madam
chair,
thank
you
for
having
me
this
evening
respective
council.
D
Members
I'd
like
to
present
my
2023
budget
for
the
department
of
planning
and
transportation.
My.
D
D
The
2020
or
the
transportation
plan
and
how
we
implement
that
and
evaluate
it.
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
You
can
see
categories
one
two
and
three
from
the
all
are
funds
that
represent
from
the
general.
D
D
D
D
A
Thank
you,
mr
robinson.
Now
I
will
turn
to
my
colleague,
councilmember
flaherty,
for
a.
E
E
E
A
F
This
might
also
involve
our
city
controller.
I
wondered
what.
F
Accrue
in
this
year's
budget
to
the
alternative
transportation
fund,
casa
memberallo,
that's.
D
Be
a
question
best
left
for
the
engineering
department.
Again
my
highlighted
in
my.
D
On
their
own
and
that
fund
is
now
administered
through
that
department,
do
you
use
resources?
Your.
D
D
F
Director
seabour,
my
next
question
is:
do
we
have
a
an
architect
on
staff?
We
do
not.
F
It's
a
perpetual,
I
think,
observation
among
the
public
and
I
think,
members
of
the
council
that.
F
Lack
architectural
quality
and
I
agree
I
happen
to
agree
with
that
assessment.
F
It
seems
to
me
that
an
architect
would
be
helpful
to
have
on
your
staff.
Could
you
reflect
on.
F
D
D
D
D
D
F
F
Buildings,
well,
I
think
you're,
first
of
all
asking
me
an
opinion
on
architectural
design,
which
I.
D
A
May
I
just
quickly
ask
for
a
clarification,
mr
robinson:
wasn't
it
schmidt
and
associates
or
was.
D
E
The
presentation,
mr
robinson,
and
for
you
and
your
department's
work
I
wanted
to
follow
up
in.
E
The
same
vein,
actually
I
I
think,
there's
a
certain
appeal
to
my
colleagues
argument
or
or.
E
Support
for
for
architectural
standards
so
to
speak.
But
having
done
quite
a
lot
of
reading
of.
E
The
literature
on
affordable
housing-
I
also
have
seen
that
that
it's
supposed
by
most
experts
in.
E
Developments
limiting
housing
supply,
which
also
has
a
direct
effect
on
affordability,
as
well
as.
E
E
Introduce
arbitrariness
and
length
through
process
that
it
introduces
problems
for
other
goals
of.
E
Ours
related
to
affordability
and
and
clarity
of
guidelines.
Is
there
a
could
you
speak
at
all
to.
E
I
feel
like
the
udo
update,
was
meant
to
eliminate
arbitrariness
to
the
extent
possible.
E
So
we
don't
have
you
know,
negotiations
essentially
over
each
building,
haggling
for.
E
You
know
x
or
y
or
z,
but
instead
create
clear
guides
and
standards,
and
I
guess
the
second.
E
E
Second,
is:
are
there
other
tools
that
might
be
code
based
rather
than
architectural
review,
based.
D
D
D
D
E
E
What
types
of
changes
and
standards
would
be
available
to
us?
Could
you
give
an
example
or
two.
D
All
sorts
of
these
architectural
standards
are
used.
Some
neighborhoods
also
has.
A
Council
member
rosenberger,
thank
you
thanks
for
that
presentation.
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
we.
G
D
G
G
G
D
D
Quality
staff
report
or
staff
support
to
those
boards
and
commissions,
and
sometimes
it
can
be.
D
D
D
A
In
your
in
your
memo,
you
talk
about
creating
a
transportation
commission
that
would
kind
of.
A
Been
decided
which
commissions
will
be
combined
or
is
that
something
that
you're
going
to
study.
A
In
the
coming
months,
council,
member
piedmont
smith,
thanks
for
the
question
staff,
has
talked.
D
About
the
three,
our
three
transportation
focus
commissions:
that
would
be
the
parking
commission.
D
D
A
Let
me
see
I
had
another
question,
so
I
still
have
a
little
time
here.
The
gotta
find
it.
A
So
in
category
one
personnel
you
had
mentioned
that
there's
a
new.
D
Help
provide
much
needed
support.
I
think
if
you
look
at
the
year-over-year.
D
And
this
group,
you
yourselves,
are
involved
in
one
and
looking
at
a
valley,
an
alley
vacation,
so.
H
Was
is,
does
the
beeline
trail
does
that
come
under
the
purview
of
planning
and
transportation.
H
D
D
D
D
G
Hi,
okay,
I
don't
have
this
very
well
formed
here,
but
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
G
Safety
and
crashes,
and
really
like,
what's
in
the
budget
for
2023,
I
mean
it
can
be
in
very.
D
Councilmember
rosenberger
I'll
have
to
look
at
the
current
data.
I
believe
staff
has
just.
D
I'm
sorry,
could
you
please
repeat
the
question
I'm
just
like
wondering:
what's
in
the
budget.
G
For
all
modes
of
transportation,
so
from
from
our
department,
we're
going
to
initiate
the
college.
D
D
I
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
I'm
interested
in
something
you
said
earlier.
You
mentioned
that.
I
That
thanks
council
member
scamler
for
the
question
for
that
unwieldy
question.
D
D
D
D
D
D
I
did
provide
a
draft
outline
to
stephen
lucas
on
that
for
our
discussion
next
week
and.
F
Now-
and
that
is
another
dissatisfaction
that
I
have,
is
the
council
opted
to
surrender.
F
The
pud
process
some
time
in
the
back
in
the
udl
process
and
with
the
hope
that
there
would
be.
F
Adequate
code
and
enough,
I
don't
know
desire
in
the
part
of
the
city
and
the
developers
to
have
a.
F
F
D
I
first
of
all
think
that
just
a
point
of
clarification,
puds
are
still
permitted.
D
D
D
D
D
F
A
Let's
leave
that
as
a
as
a
comment.
Thank
you
council,
member
flaherty,.
E
E
E
There
have
been
some
changes
already
to
the
structure
of
those
incentives
and
that
the.
E
Sorry,
taking
advantage
of
those
incentives,
thanks
for
the
question
council
member
flaherty,
so.
D
D
To
use
the
incentives
so
we're
seeing
some
more
success
with
that
is
in
a
specific
example,.
D
The
desire
to
have
puds
in
negotiate
is
not
unique
to
bloomington
when
our
consultant
was
here.
D
D
D
D
Able
to
track
that
level
of
of
crashes,
I
will
say
that
in
my
conversations
with
mbo
staff.
D
D
Number
of
scooter
crashes,
but
there
are
pedestrian
and
bicycle
crashes
that
we
can
also.
D
Each
year,
each
year
reported
yeah,
okay,
my
other
question
is:
do
you
have
any
ask
me.
G
Smith's
question:
it's
just
more
about
data.
Just
looking
thinking
about
the
new
software
you're.
G
D
Crash
reporting
for
years
and
the
idea
has
been
for
the
urbanized
area,
the
city,
the
county.
D
Ellisville
to
use
that
data
to
target
improvements
based
on
you
know,
crashes.
D
Funding
through
that
safe
streets
and
roads
for
all
that
would
help
us.
G
A
Proposed
budget
for
the
department
of
planning
transportation
here
in
council
chambers,
you.
A
Can
approach
the
podium
and
state
your
name?
If
you
are
joining
us
via
zoom,
you
can
use
the.
A
A
F
I've
been
customarily
passing
on,
but
on
budgets,
nothing
personal.
It
really
has
to
do
with.
F
F
F
F
F
I
regret
that
you
know
the
pud
process
has
been
changed,
such
that
I
think
we've
lost
opportunities.
F
Such
as
the
kmart
site
for
mixture
of
housing,
types
and
so
forth,
so
I
think
something
needs
to.
F
F
That
are
that
have
appeared
in
recent
years,
so
something
needs
to
be
done
about
this.
I
hope
the.
B
Can
I
be
heard
okay
good
two
points?
One
is
what
councilman
barolo's
just
talked
about,
while.
B
B
Our
design
standards
into
the
udo,
mr
rob,
is
right,
it's
a
loose-leaf
book,
and
that
is
where.
B
B
North
side,
cbs
is
being
built
and
councilman
beruff,
and
I
got
criticized
in
the
paper
for.
B
Asking
for
some
kind
of
design
standard
and
the
paper
famously
wrote
an
editorial
about
it.
B
B
In
their
code
and
cvs
built
a
a
store
that
met
their
standards
and
we
didn't
have
standards
aside.
B
B
B
Administration
has
found
fit
to
put
the
tdm
program
in
esd
perhaps
implies
that.
B
If
planning
as
a
problem
supporting
too
many
boards
commissions,
maybe
the
park
commission.
B
Should
be
moved
there
for
support,
but
I
it
was
always
my
intention
as
the
author
of.
B
B
That
commission,
so
I
would
strongly
urge,
as
I
have
always
said,
against
the
combination
of
parking.
A
All
right,
councilmember
sandberg,
thank
you.
I
I
too
am
kind
of
eager
to
visit
this
idea
of
the.
J
J
J
J
J
J
A
I'd
like
to
remind
my
colleagues
that
changes
to
the
udo,
especially.
A
A
A
A
F
F
F
F
E
I
don't
believe
we
actually
are
engaging
in
in
debate
per
the
motion
on
monday.
A
Discussing
the
budget
proposal
at
this
time,
did
you
have
a
point
of
order
council,
member
volun.
B
I
did
councilman
rowell
nevertheless
got
a
second
bite
at
the
apple.
A
A
Apple
for
council
comment:
yes,
go
ahead,
council
member
volun!
That's
fine,
because
I'm
still.
B
B
B
To
sit
down
with
me
and
to
look
through
some
of
the
excellent
vocabulary
that
exists
to
address.
B
B
It's
impossible
and
I
would
urge
him
to
to
that
he
that
perhaps
he
and
the
constituents
he
who.
B
Get
past
this
as
a
never-ending
discussion.
Thank
you
all
right,
chief
deputy
clerk
mcdowell
could.
A
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
A
A
A
Thank
you
so
much
questions
from
council
members
for
the
engineering
department
budget.
A
Council
member
rallo:
yes
well,
since
this
slide
is
up
the
alternative
transportation
fund.
F
Fund,
besides
the
council
sidewalk
fund,
what
is
that
funding
yeah?
So
I
believe,
and
the.
F
Okay-
and
I
I
want
to
again
just
express
my
disappointment,
our
fund
is,
you
know
our.
L
A
lot
of
sidewalk
I
would
then
follow.
What
is
a
sidewalk
is
that
the
ramps
is
that
the
signal
that.
L
Serves
the
sidewalk
okay,
that's
information,
I'd
like
and
we
can
discuss
specifically.
F
F
Do
we
need
some
stop
signs
back
to
allow
people
to
pedestrians
to
cross?
No,
that's
a
good.
L
L
L
I
I
L
I
I
L
L
And
but
honestly,
what
we're
starting
to
see
is
on
a
project,
let's
say
maybe
eligible
for
a.
L
L
L
I
A
G
Thank
you
for
that
presentation.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
plan
to
replace
traffic.
G
L
L
L
Do
upgrade
those
signals,
we're
certainly
making
sure
all
the
ada
improvements
that.
G
Is
that
is
that
a
lot
of
extra
budgeting
to
add
something
like
that?
Where
there's
actually.
A
All
right,
council,
member
smith.
H
H
The
traffic
is,
you
know
it's
really,
building
on
pete
ellis
and
on
on
smith
as
well.
H
And
so
I
I
wonder
what
you
know:
you're
thinking
about
that
for
the
future
and
if
there's
any.
H
Money
in
it
this
budget,
you
know
to
look
at
that
sure
so,
specifically
to
pete
ellis
as.
L
L
H
Is
your
department
and
this
year's
budget
does
it
have
any
funds.
H
That
are
going
to
have
us
perhaps
look
or
help
coordinate
that
perhaps
advocate
for.
H
Now-
and
I
I
know
it's
going
to
take
a
while-
is
what
is
your
role
in
that
as
far
as.
H
You
know
advocating
for
that,
within
the
constraints
of
this
budget
sure
I
think.
L
L
E
The
presentation,
mr
seaborg,
could
you
elaborate
a
bit
on
the
alternative
transportation
fund.
L
Yeah
I
I
expect
that
money
will
help.
With
I
mentioned
some
downtown
curb
ramp
projects.
L
L
M
M
Then,
secondly,
what's
needed
to
fund
the
program,
which
is
the
parking
services.
That
is
what.
M
Then
fund
that
and
if
not
there's
a
discussion
with
the
mayor's
office
and
with
engineering
and.
M
M
Out
of
alternative
transportation,
the
largest
is
the
parking
services
division
and
that's
at
46.
M
Talked
about
is
nineteen
percent
and
then
last
night
beverly
counter
anderson
spoke
about.
M
Youth
participatory
budgeting
and
they
have
an
allocation
of
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
Out
of
that.
M
Fund
and
it's
two
percent-
thank
you.
I
do
have
a
related
follow-up
or
two,
but
I
think
the
timer.
E
Should
they're
on
this
topic,
the
alternative
go
ahead.
Okay,
thank
you
is
is
a
specific.
E
Alternative
transportation
fund
actually
requested
by
your
department,
mr
seabor,
or
is
it
you
just.
E
L
L
E
And
engineering
were
all
one
department,
the
bicycle
pedestrian
coordinator
decided.
E
Oversee
that
I
believe
that
position
might
be
vacant
at
the
moment.
But
could
you
speak
to.
L
A
Ask
a
couple
before
we
go
back
to
council
member
rallo,
so
mr
seabor,
I
thought.
A
During
your
presentation,
you
had
mentioned
that
you
had
nine,
I
don't
know
if
I
don't.
A
Right,
could
you
put
that
in
context
for
me
yeah,
so
I
think,
essentially,
over
the
time
span
on
that.
L
M
That
is
a
property
tax
rate,
primarily
of
indexed
at
five
percent
at
five
cents
per
100.
A
Okay,
thank
you
another
question
for
mr
seabor.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
and
I'm
sorry
I
had
to.
L
L
We
have
been,
we
have
now
it's,
I
guess
been
a
couple
years,
but
council
approved
some
additional.
L
A
L
L
F
F
L
Try
to
clarify
and
make
sure
there's
a
good
understanding,
so
the
funding
the
specific.
F
You
for
that
clarification,
mr
underwood,
may
ask
you
a
question
related
to
my
colleagues.
F
They
were
determining
the
sources
of
funding
for
the
alternative
transportation
fund.
M
Transfer
from
every
available
fund,
but
there
could
certainly
be
other
funds
that
we
could
look
at.
F
Okay,
one
of
the
things
I
I
did
mention
the
other
night
and
I
think.
M
We
let
mr
seaboard
talk
about
that
was.
I
think
this
was
the
first
time
that
we
were
able.
M
M
F
A
Council,
member
flaherty,
yes,
thank
you.
I
had
a
question
about
like
streets
and
right-of-way.
E
Wanting
to
take
public
ownership
of
those
and
administer
them
can,
can
you
are
there
streets.
E
That
we
choose
not
to,
I
guess,
I'm
a
little
confused
about
the
right-of-way
process
and
how.
E
L
There
are
try
to
think
so.
There
are,
there
are
private
streets
in
the
city.
L
L
Intended
to
be
private
and
were
never
intended
to
be
public,
they
weren't
built
to
city
standards.
L
L
So
there
are
existing
private
streets,
sometimes
residents
or
will
reach
out
to.
L
L
E
Are
those
typically
city
right-of-way?
Are
they
typically
privately
owned
by
parks,
or
I
guess.
E
Has
a
straight
through
it,
there
may
be:
I'd
have
to
think
a
little
bit
more
specifically
about.
L
And
then
also,
but
is
directly
adjacent
to
and
surrounded
by
by
a
park
and
then
finally,
what.
E
About
like
multi-use
transportation
corridors,
what's
is
there
like
a
policy
with
respect
to.
E
L
L
A
parks
department
type
facility,
so
it's
definition
and
and
maintenance.
L
F
Notify
them
that's,
certainly,
my
understanding.
A
lot
of
these
projects
were
developed
before
I.
L
N
F
L
A
Councilmember
flaherty.
Sorry,
thank
you
just
one
quick
follow-up
and
then
a
second
question.
E
E
Right-Of-Way,
but
you
just
noted
that
that's
not
the
case,
I
don't
know
if
that's
sort
of.
E
Board
of
part
commissioners
dedicate
right
of
way
where
they
may
own
a
multi-use
trail.
E
And,
and
could
you
speak
more
specifically
to
your
thoughts
about
what
what
disadvantages.
E
There
might
be
to
having
those
types
of
facilities
dedicated
as
public
right-of-way.
L
Sure
I
think
I
mean
that's
a
big
question.
That's
probably.
L
L
Considering
like
one
would
be
a
utility,
so
if
it's
a
right-of-way
duke
or
whoever
could
just.
L
A
O
You
my
name
is
greg
alexander.
I
continue
to
be
disappointed
at
the
bad
projects
that
come
out
of.
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
Street,
even
though
there
are
no
stop
signs,
it
was
kind
of
astonishing.
The
first
time
I
saw
there.
A
K
K
A
A
Council
member
flaherty,
yes,
thank
you
and
thanks
again
for
the
presentation
and
all
your.
E
Us
on
track,
so
to
speak,
to
meet
not
only
the
projects
in
the
council
budget
that
my
council.
E
Council
colleague,
councilmemberallo
is
is
concerned
that
it
will
never
meet
at
the
current.
E
Rate
but
of
course,
there's
many
many
projects
beyond
that.
That's
just
the
priority
list
in
the.
E
Council
sidewalk
committee
and
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
complex
problem-
we've
talked
about
it
at.
E
Least,
once
mr
seabourn,
I
and
I'd
like
to
follow
up
again
and
and
see
if
additional.
E
E
E
That
front,
and
it
might
be
take
a
willingness
to
to
admit
or
know
that
we're
not
going
to
be.
E
The
chart
that
was
shared
documenting
bike,
ped
percentage,
split
of
capital
spending
over.
E
The
last
seven
eight
years
in
engineering-
and
I
think,
that's
obviously
a
positive
trend.
E
The
whole
picture,
because
it's
kind
of
far
from
it,
that
is
engineering
department's
capital
budget,.
E
Garages
all
the
other
parking
subsidies
that
we,
you
know
pay
for
the
opportunity
cost
of.
E
E
And
I
think
that's
it
for
me.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you.
I
share
my
colleagues
sentiments
and
and
requests,
and
I
think.
F
Would
be
a
really
valuable,
I
think
for
for
everyone
and
then
potential
funding
sources.
F
F
But
I
did
want
to
say
that
I
I
do
appreciate
your
department.
I
appreciate.
C
A
P
P
P
P
But
it
helps
us
look
at
our
operational
performance.
It
looks
at
staff,
development.
P
P
P
P
P
Lights
so
with
gis
and
all
of
our
effort,
our
continued
efforts
with
technology,
we're
working.
P
P
P
P
Really
appreciate
the
great
work
they
do,
the
great
questions
they
ask
and
the
attention
they
pay.
P
To
all
the
different
things,
they're
responsible
for
you
know
and
with
the
asset
management.
P
That's
to
not
only
just
coordinate
with
what
we're
doing,
but
also
make
sure
we're
updating.
P
P
And
I
think,
with
our
category
three
and
four
spending
the
main
increases
you're,
seeing
here.
P
So
cbu
is
exploring
what
what
they
may
do
at
the
old
winston
thomas
site,
which.
P
P
Again,
two
point:
go
back
one:
2.26
million
dollar
request.
P
That's
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
increase
over
last
year
and
just
kind
of
to
finish.
P
With
the
administrative
budget
presentation
I
I
know,
I've
talked
about
this
with.
P
P
P
A
P
For
several
months
with
the
mayor's
office
and
others
on
you
know,
cove
had
changed
many.
P
F
Director
wayson
thanks
for
all
your
work-
and
I
I
don't
mean
this
as
a
slight
at.
F
And
we
discussed
this,
and
it
seems
that
you
had
also
investigated
it
and
you
were
going
to
deploy.
F
Share
what
the
type
of
light
you're
that
you're
using
us,
I'm
interested
to
know
the
new.
P
P
P
F
B
Thank
you
councilman
asks
an
interesting
question.
I'd
like
to
follow
up
with
a
question.
B
About
whether
your
plans
for
upgrading
to
led
also
take
into
account
dark
sky
concerns,
like.
B
Will
there
be
unnecessary
light
being
shot
upwards
into
the
sky?
No,
we
would
still
meet
the
full.
P
B
You
hesitant
about
council
morale
is
concerned
because
you
think
that
there's
a
prohibitive
cost.
B
Okay,
I
just
sounded
like
I
saw
I
heard
a
hesitancy.
Am
I
mistaking.
P
Shades
do
what
and
we're
happy
to
engage
in
that
conversation
and.
Q
Council
member
scandal,
lurie,
yes,
thank
you
it
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
notice.
I
Cut
condition
assessment
is
there,
but
the
more
recent
data
isn't
will
that
be
forthcoming.
P
P
P
A
Those
kind
of
investment
to
make
those
repairs
and
and
replacements
it
will
be
the
I
don't.
P
P
Where
large
portions
are
missing,
where
gaps
are,
I
firmly
believe
it'll
be
the
most
dynamic
set
of.
P
A
A
All
right
great
did
I
say
that
wrong
at
all.
Yes,
other
questions
for
mr
wayson
on
this
division.
A
A
A
Like
to
make
a
comment,
you
can
use
the
raised
hand
function.
If
that
doesn't
work,
you
can
send
a.
K
A
F
The
code
has
to
be
implemented
or
the
scooters
have
to
go
in
my
mind
so,
but
I
think
probably.
F
What
you
might
do
in
your
department
as
we
proceed
this
evening,
so
thank
you.
F
P
I'm
kidding
please
do
next
up
animal
care
and
control,
as
I've
said
many
times
before,.
P
P
P
P
Hesitancy
in
that
regard,
to
a
small
extent
so,
but
we're
we're
doing
well
we're
doing
good
and.
P
Shelter
operate
the
way
it
does
currently,
our
goal
is
set
at
78
we're
currently
at
74
mid-year.
P
For
closing,
our
animal
control
calls
within
24
hours,
and
that's
just
kind
of.
I
think
that
our.
P
Being
below
that
goal
has
a
lot
to
do
with
some
investigations
that
are
taking
longer
periods.
P
So
but
we're
still
hopeful
to
meet
that
by
the
end
of
the
year
for
our
2023
goals
for
fostering.
P
P
P
P
P
Reasons
but
we
really
really
focus
on
that
pre-education
pre-adoption
education,
but
we
also.
P
P
P
Hear
me
say
this
repeatedly
tonight:
there
are
just
rising
costs
in
every
way,
shape
and
form.
P
Some
of
those
supply
type
increases
category
three,
just
some
nominal
increases
for
some.
P
P
P
P
We're
additionally
going
to
look
to
for
category
three:
do
some
repairs
within
the.
P
By
category
for
one
two,
three
and
four:
no,
as
you
can
see
here,
no
major
capital,
four
requests.
P
We've
got
a
nice
new
or
newer
shiny
facility
down
there
that
isn't
requiring
the.
P
Overall
budget
summary
here
year
to
year,
2023
request
is
1.855
million.
That's
about.
P
R
R
Talk
about
every
year,
it's
particularly
deer
in
neighborhoods.
So
let's
talk
about
that
program.
R
Yeah,
let's
start
with
an
update
yeah.
So
what
I
can
tell
you
is
that
virgil
and
his
team
had.
P
P
P
Up
a
draft
animal
wildlife
management
plan,
it
will
have
some
urban
deer.
P
Yeah
come
on
up
yeah,
it
will
have
some
components
regarding
urban
deer.
You
know
that's
going
to.
P
R
Our
neighborhood
did
I
miss
that
that
I
said
that
would
have
to
be
part
of
a
larger
community.
P
R
R
R
P
P
P
P
R
R
R
R
Like
we're
being
included,
I
completely
understand
that
I
I
I
absolutely
100
understand
that
and.
P
Do
not
by
any
means,
what's
the
word
I'm
looking
for
here,
but
I
I
I
don't
make.
P
I
I
And
while
we're
getting
there,
I'm
interested
in
doing
some
benchmarking
in
general,
the
95
live.
I
Release
rate
seems
extraordinary
to
me:
can
you
give
us
a
sense
of
how
that
compares
nationally.
S
S
S
Thinking
about
euthanasia,
for
the
shelter
and
what
we
specifically
do
we're
largely
looking
at.
S
I
The
78
of
animal
control
calls
with
closed
within
40
24
hours.
What
keeps
a.
S
S
S
That
open
multiple
days,
I
understand,
thank
you
and
I'm
not
sure
where
I
am
on
time,
but
a.
I
P
I
will
just
share
an
anecdotal
one
or
not.
Last
week
on
the
weekend
we
got
the.
P
P
Getting
on-call
officers
to
the
site
because
of
other
obligations
they
were
at
and
then
we
got.
We.
A
J
To
give
you
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
some
of
the
issues
you've
had
at
the
shelter
recently.
J
P
Surrendered
to
our
care,
you
know
the
litters
being
born
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
and
I
what
I.
P
S
Yeah
so
mid-july,
we
were
above
capacity
in
our
holding
since
then.
S
I
would
like
to
do
a
shout
out
to
our
donors
that
have
sponsored
the
fees
kind
of
got.
S
S
S
Crannies
of
the
shelter,
so
we
are
in
a
what,
as
adam
said
before
our
normal
busy
time
of
the.
J
J
P
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
the
animal
control
commission
approved
a
draft
policy
that
were.
P
On
wildlife
management-
and
that
was
worked
on
through
the
first
and
second
quarter
of
the
year.
P
P
Forward
but
we
would
love
to
have
involvement
and
assistance
in
shepherding
a
program
like
that.
P
From
council
and
community
organizations,
mr
sauder
received
some
information
from
me.
F
P
Or
wildlife
management
committee-
a
group
that
would
be
studying
the
the
I
don't
want
to.
F
Call
it
a
problem
necessarily
but
the
the
topic
that
would
be
advising
city
administration.
F
And
that
could
include
birth
control
because
the
the
fields
advanced
and
things
like
that
so.
F
F
F
A
Ghost
hand
that
I
keep
seeing
up
there
any
other
questions
from
my
colleagues.
F
Second
round:
let's
go
back
to
council
member
sims.
Thank
you
before
I
get
to
a
question.
R
I
will
mention
earlier
this
year
going
down
west
7th
and
elm
right
there
at
okay.
R
There's
some
sort
of
a
migration.
I
think-
and
maybe
it's
just
something
I
don't
know
about,
but.
R
R
Of
my
colleagues,
when
we
did
legislation
and
stopped
puppy
mill,
sales
of
dogs
and
cats.
R
How
has
that
affected
our
dogs
and
cats
in
animal
care
control,
and
particularly
with
being.
S
Yeah,
so
that
legislation
there's
goes
into
effect
starting
in
january,
so
we
won't
really
see.
S
S
R
S
F
F
Now
that
was
a
bad
situation
for
the
animals
potentially,
if
there
weren't
facilities.
S
Has
been
some
slight
improvements
in
those
areas,
but
there
definitely
hasn't
been
a
huge.
S
Increase
in
what
they're
able
to
take
in
as
far
as
animal
control
and
sheltering
okay.
F
F
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
information,
all
right,
any
other
questions
from
colleagues.
At
this
point.
A
If
you
are
here
in
chambers,
you
can
come
to
the
podium.
If
you
are
on
zoom,
you
can.
A
I
don't
see
anybody
here
in
chambers,
deputy
attorney
kulak.
Do
we
have
anybody.
C
A
Division,
mr
wayson.
Yes,
me
again,
so
the
facility
maintenance
division
is
an
area
of
great.
P
P
Important
to
our
overall
operations,
jd
boroff
and
his
team
with
barry,
wallock,
russell
flake
and.
P
P
P
Work,
but
in
my
career
with
the
city
I
don't
know
that
there's
a
program,
I've
been
more
proud.
P
Center
stone
has
been
just
really
it's
just
it's
one
of
the
things
I'm
probably
most.
P
Proud
that
we've
ever
done
in
public
works,
we
do
a
lot
of
great
stuff.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
but.
P
Impacts
on
the
the
community
in
terms
of
beautification
efforts,
I
think,
is
just
really.
P
Amazing,
overall,
the
facilities,
maintenance
division
has
four
time
four
full-time
equivalents.
P
Pro
project
to
get
in
in
place,
you
know
we're
proud
of
our
safety
efforts
and
we're.
P
P
P
P
P
P
You
know,
as
far
as
trying
to
further
our
sustainability
efforts,
we
are.
P
Employment
opportunity
are
working
five
days
a
week,
the
same
schedule
as
the
downtown.
P
And
city
streets,
the
you
know,
thousands
of
feet
of
yellow,
curb
they've
painted
the
hundreds.
P
In
pedestrian
areas
I
went
out,
and
you
know
on
occasion,
go
out
and
work
with
these
crews.
P
But
worked
with
them
this
past
saturday,
and
I
I
don't
in
any
way
I
want
to
just
highlight
the.
P
P
Program
I'm
going
to
lose
out
on
time
here.
If
I
don't
stop
talking,
you
know
so
they're
helping.
P
P
What
we're
doing
with
the
brighton,
b-town
program,
personnel,
request
or
category
one
personnel
is.
P
P
Is
not
only
an
increase
for
the
budget
for
the
brighton
b-town
project,
but
our
snow
control
costs.
P
P
After
year
with
contracts,
so
those
are
built
into
the
category
three
and
then
category
four.
P
P
With
parking
facilities,
maintenance
needs,
I
could
go
on
and
on
and
on
about
the
things.
P
A
H
Part
of
your
job
is
for
security,
physical
structure,
security
for
buildings.
H
To
increase
physical
security.
P
Safety
and
security
for
city
hall,
as
well
as
some
of
our
other
facilities,
we're
not
going
to.
P
P
H
A
Of
that
program,
how
long
do
the
brighton,
b-town
employees
usually
stay
with
the
city.
P
We've
got
some
that
have
participated
for
multiple
seasons.
We've
got
some
that.
P
You
know
participate
for
a
month
or
two
find
other
employment.
We've
had
some
that
have.
P
Participated
for
a
month
or
two
and
said:
that's
not
really
for
me.
A
And
I
believe
the
timer
is
not
accurate
for
my
time,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead.
The.
A
Approach
in
the
coming
snow
season
with
downtown
snow
removal,
you
know
it.
P
Participate
in
the
coldest
weather
days
of
the
winter,
but
we
did
have.
I
know
I've
got
some.
P
Info
here
so,
where
we
focused
last
year,
was
within
the
downtown
area,
focusing
on
curb
ramps
in.
P
A
A
Frustrating
for
people
who
have
to
walk
those
sidewalks
and
given
that
south
walnut
street.
P
Clearing,
if
we
start
taking
out
on
a
large
scale
at
the
city
it
just
it
doesn't
end.
P
P
E
E
Conversation
we're
having
and
looking
at
options,
certainly
take
your
points
about
you
know
we.
E
This
is
a
liability
that
maybe
we
can't
take
on
in
the
entire
city
scale,
but
I
still
feel
like.
E
The
university
takes
it
on
in
their
you
know,
sort
of
sidewalk
and
pedestrian
infrastructure.
E
E
E
E
E
Areas,
it
seems
like
could
have
a
real
impact
on
accessibility
challenges
posed
by
the
current.
E
E
E
A
logistical
and
financial
perspective
sure
so
a
couple
comments
there:
it's
not
that
we
don't
do.
P
P
P
P
A
A
All
right
well,
then,
we'll
come
back
to
city
council
members
for
any
final
comments.
E
Certainly,
credit
where
it's
due
on
the
the
great
work
you
all
do
on
you
know,
side
paths
and.
E
That
we
can
address
through
through
you
know
some
sort
of
targeted
effort
that
I
don't
think.
E
E
Into
the
weeds
with
it-
and
you
know
regarding
that
being
like
a
slippery
slope
to
to
unfair.
E
E
You
know
so
just
wanted
to
to
mention
that
I
think
there
are
ways
to
address
your
concerns.
E
Of
course
it's
not
without
cost,
but
but
I
think
it's
worth
us
exploring
more
deeply.
So
thank.
E
P
Mention
it
in
my
response
to
your
initial
question.
You
know
the
other
aspect
of
this
that
we're.
P
P
Specifically
at
sidewalks
and
equity
issues
and
blockages,
and
how
and
so
that
conversation,
that's.
P
A
Yes,
councilmember
rosenbarker
I'll,
just
I'll
chime
in
on
that
one.
I
always
of
course,
struggle
with.
G
G
We
are
to
prioritize
bike
pad
and
a
little
bit
of
me
was
like
do
I
really
understand
what
the.
G
G
Bike
ped,
and
I
think
there
are
some
ways
that
we
can
look
at
transferring
funds
that
you
know.
G
G
P
Adam
wayson,
once
again,
I
think
I've
probably
used
this
opening
line
and.
P
As
proposed
here,
I
can
tell
you,
there's
been
that
request
has
has
occurred
in
the
past.
P
P
From
the
job
evaluation
committee
and
hope
that
the
council
will
support
it,.
P
So
you
know
just
with
what
we
do
at
fleet
maintenance,
preventative
maintenance.
P
And
it's
just
it's
imperative
to
keeping
the
fleet
up
and
running
we're
still
in
the
process.
P
Of
trying
to
implement
a
wide-ranging
asset
management
system,
some
aspects
of
that
are.
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
Again,
you
know
we're
always
trying
to
prioritize.
You
know
which
vehicles
are
most
important.
P
To
be
worked
on
at
this
point
in
time,
we're
always
gonna.
Obviously
you
know
look
to.
P
Just
additional
2023
budget
goals:
it
might
not
mean
much
to
folks
that
but
tracking
def
usage
so.
P
P
Different
departments
that
need
that
product
and
then
one
of
the
things
we're
doing
in
2020.
P
P
P
P
Utilize,
the
service,
and
that
is
a
increase
of
480
000
across
the
board,
the
it
won't.
P
Surprise
you
one
bit
obviously
we're
having
a
category
one
increase
with
the
new
position,
but.
P
P
P
P
P
P
And
then
we
move
to
just
the
by
fund
category
one
two,
three
and
four
you'll
see
that
breakdown.
P
P
Happy
to
oh,
oh
yeah,
I
do
want
to
mention
you
know,
so
we
continue
to
work
with
lauren.
P
Travis
lauren
clement,
oh
shoot,
I'm
getting
her
name:
clemens
clemens!
Sorry,
I'm
going
back
to
maine.
P
Name,
I
think,
but
and
and
trying
to
come
up
with
a
more
formalized
green
fleet
purchasing.
P
J
J
Much
we
hope
the
collective
bargaining
goes
well
and
that
we're
able
to,
if
not
at
this
point.
T
Hey
deputy
mayor
don
griffin,
how
you
guys
doing
in
regards
to
our
negotiations
with
askme.
T
You
know
we,
this
has
been
done
before,
where
a
contract
hasn't
been
in
play
in
place
and
it.
T
T
I
think
that's
been
the
the
that's
been
what
you've
done
in
the
past
and
and
the.
T
J
J
As
soon
as
possible,
and
that
we're
able
to
know
what's
what's
in
store
for
our
afscme
employees,.
T
Of
we've
got
over
800
and
we'll
we'll
get
to
it
all
right.
I
trust
that
you
will
thank
you.
P
Follow
up
with
that
in
a
written
response
for
sure
the
exact
breakdown
of
union
non-union.
F
And
then
we,
if
we
lose
them,
that's
the
cost
to
the
city.
So
I'm
sure
you
share
that
concern.
F
Of
in
various
for
various
employees,
various
departments.
F
And
its
concern
of
ours
concern
the
hr
director
was
coming
to
us
with
information.
P
F
Deputy
mayor
griffin's
position
and
what
he
said,
but
also
recognize
that
our
position
we.
F
A
A
U
C
A
Division
all
righty,
only
three
more
to
go
so
being
the
newest
division
of
public
works.
The.
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
Safety
violations,
meter
enforcement-
you
know,
but
beyond
that
they're
also
they
backfill
as.
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
Parking
the
parking
services
division
also
has
some
funding
through
the
alt.
P
In
that
fun
line
overall
of
about
130
000,
some
in
category
one,
obviously
again
more.
P
Increases
in
category
two
supplies,
the
big
increase
overall,
though,
is
category
three
and.
P
And
I
believe
and
then
just
again
the
category
three
things
that
go
with
missing.
P
Damaged
polls,
the
pay
by
phone
signage,
et
cetera,
so
one
big
capital
request
we're
making
here.
P
Budget
of
5.72
or
5.271,
with
the
increased
amounts
based
on
what
I
described
a
moment
ago,.
P
P
P
Enforcement
as
part
of
my
presentation-
and
I
completely
failed
to
do
that-
so
I
apologize.
P
P
Looking
to
you
know
document,
and
then
you
know
we'll
get
to
the
point,
then,
where
you.
P
Know
likely
fines
come
into
play
impoundment,
possibly,
but
we
were
already
moving
towards
that.
P
On
how
we
could
do
better
with
that,
so
you
know,
as
we
document.
Obviously
we
will
be
providing.
P
P
P
Planning
to
implement
over
the
next,
you
know
several
months
we're
going
to
try
to
get
some.
P
P
With
our
ordinance,
but
we
do
try
to
undertake
some
of
those
efforts,
I
should
have
interrupted.
F
To
the
scooter
companies
for
action
it
shouldn't
just
be
are
up
to
us
to
clear
the
sidewalk.
They.
F
A
M
M
General
fund
right
revenues
from
garage
revenues
and
parking
meter
revenues
go
into
those.
M
B
Okay,
so
is
the
data
being
sent
to
me
on
regular
salaries
and
wages
in
the
101
fund.
M
Services
and
we
have
returned
them
to
parking
services,
so
I
don't
believe
there
are
any
salaries.
M
Than
no
I
adam
michelle
I'll
have
to
double
check.
Michelle
wall
may
be
in
the
general
fund.
M
B
Been
a
mundane
aspect
of
receiving
data
about
parking
functions
that
I've
been
looking
through.
B
Four
funds,
not
three
and
so
to
not
see
any
general
fund
dollars
whatsoever,
causes
me
to
pause
so.
A
G
G
For
their
parklets
and
yes,
we
can
follow
up
with
the
absolute
specific
numbers
it's
per
space.
P
Yeah,
so
it's
it's
all
part
of
the
council
approved
program.
There
was
a
per
space
cost
for
to.
P
P
A
But
I
wonder
so
if
the
pilot
program,
I
mean,
to
what
extent,
is
it
a
pilot
program,
I'm
a
little.
A
By
the
licensing
fees
or
how
would
we
pay
for
it
in
2023?
Okay,
so
short
answer
is
yes,
we
would.
P
Hope
to
continue
it
longer
answer
is
that
you
know
we're
using
the
next
couple
months
before.
P
A
And
is:
are
those
licensing
fees
also
being
used
to
pay
the
two
hourly
part-time
employees?
This.
A
A
Program
is
successful.
Well,
having
clearer
sidewalks
having
you
know,
less.
P
P
Say
it
would
be
if
we
have
a
hundred
instances
of
a
sidewalk
or
a
ramp
being
cleared
of
a
scooter.
P
A
P
I'd
agree
with
that:
yes,
yeah
all
right
other
questions
for
mr
wayson
about
parking
services.
A
Well,
if
not,
then
I
I
have
another
one,
so
I
heard
I
think
it
may
have
been
in
the
overview
or.
A
P
P
P
Underwood
to
collect
less
coins
so
that
we
have
some
other
opportunities
on
how.
P
We
manage
our
finances
and
such,
but
we
look
forward
to
engaging
in
that
conversation
with.
P
Collection,
we
can
save
costs
on
probably
processing
the
coins.
You
know
there
are.
P
Certainly
benefits
but
they're.
Also
with
that
comes
some
challenges
that
we
would
need
to.
P
Address
so
you
know,
but
that's
certainly
a
conversation
we
want
to
engage
in
and
have.
A
A
A
A
K
K
B
A
couple
of
things
one
is
again:
I
want
to
reiterate
that
I'd
like
to.
B
The
ability
to
park
via
park
with
park
mobile
as
long
as
you
have
an
account
set
up
with
them.
B
On
the
web,
they
can
call
an
800
number
type
in
a
five
digit
code,
where
they're
parking
and.
B
B
Code
in
there
and
they're
no
longer
parking
that
it's
always
been
possible
since
park
mobile.
B
Of
removing
coins
will
affect
the
unbanked,
those
without
credit
cards,
and
it's.
B
A
concern
that
we
should
take
seriously
but,
as
mr
wayson
has
said,
I
mean
there
are
many
cities.
B
Installed
parking
meters
and
they
basically
were
all
smartphone,
not
even
smartphone.
They.
B
Were
all
by
text?
They
did
all
parking
by
text
and
in
fact
that
might
be
the
solution
to
the.
B
B
But
we
should
be,
you
know,
thinking
about
how
we
can
more
streamline
our
services,
so
I.
B
Mean
I
certainly
support
mr
wayson's
effort
in
that
respect,
even
as
we
look
to
equity.
Thank
you.
A
Council
member
rallo,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
director,
wazon,
two
quick
comments.
One
is
that
I
agree.
F
F
I
really
do
appreciate
parking
enforcement
paying
mine
to
the.
F
Scooter
into
the
company
that
I
think
that
would
actually
hopefully
would
work.
F
I
I
know
some
people
would
be
neglectful
and
run
up
fines
and
so
forth
as
they
do
parking.
G
G
G
G
A
A
It
would
be
more
effective
to
issue
fines
that
are
incurred
through
specific,
illegal
behaviors.
A
But
if
we
actually
follow
up
on
behaviors
and
say
okay,
this
week
you
had,
you
know
25.
A
Scooters
that
were
illegally
parked
and
that
cost
us.
You
know
five
hours
to
deal
with.
A
C
R
P
All
righty
two
more
to
go
sanitation
division,
so
the
sanitation
division
continues
to
be.
P
Late
night,
revelers
downtown
have
even
headed
home
whether
picking
up
increasing
volumes
of
solid.
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
This
year,
our
diversion
rates
on
the
right
slide
are
ambitious
and
are
we
try
to
exceed.
P
P
P
P
Annual
hit
to
our
program
at
sanitation
beyond
that
over
the
last
several
years.
P
With
covid
and
the
pandemic,
our
volumes
for
trash
collection
are
up
10
to
15
percent
a
month.
P
Programmed
into
the
rate
structures
we
currently
have,
you
know,
let
me
see
where
I'm
at
here.
P
P
P
P
So
yeah
overall,
we
definitely
need
to
look
at
our
rates.
We
know
what
our
projected
expenses
are.
P
For
2023.,
we
know
what
we're
requesting
for
our
budget
for
2023
and
we
know
generally
what.
P
P
Take
in
I
know
that
we
have
to
begin
a
robust
conversation
with
not
only
the
council,
but
the.
P
Community
and
and
dig
into
the
details
of
what
the
financing
models
are
going
to
look
like
we've.
P
To
get
on
the
schedule
to
have
that
discussion
as
an
ordinance
update
this,
yet
this
year.
P
P
P
October
november
time
frame
and
such
you
know
what
I
would
say
there
we're
actively.
P
And
how
we
and
generally
just
what's
the
most
sustainable
way
to
deal
with,
leaves.
P
The
ground,
you
know
the
and
again
we'll
get
way
more
into
leafing
in
the
next
presentation,
but.
A
If
you
could
just
wrap
up
quickly,
okay,
a
couple
of
last
things
with
the
can
liners
downtown.
P
P
P
P
P
P
Request
does
still
include
a
general
fund
support
of
the
higher
levels
that
we've
been
able.
P
To
use
utilize
in
the
past,
we
are
hopeful
to
not
have
to
utilize
that
entire
amount
in
2023.
P
A
Could
you
I'm
sorry,
I'm
going
to
jump
ahead
just
to
to
get
a
data
point
out
there.
A
E
Hear
that
you
and
the
city
administration
are
fully
on
board
with,
with
trying
to
phase
out
the.
E
The
inequitable
subsidy
of
a
small
portion
of
the
city's
residents
when
it
comes
to
sanitation.
E
Services,
my
question
has
to
do
with
the
the
amount
and
the
timing
and
that
so
looking
at.
E
E
1.4
million
in
2023.
So
first
what
was
the
the
big
jump
of
of
over
50
from
2021
to
2022
and
then.
E
Be
extra
essentially
like
will
you
use
that
1.5
million
from
the
2022
budget,
or
do
you
anticipate.
E
Having
you
know
several
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
go
to
you
know
reversions,
for
instance,.
P
P
P
But
jeff
yeah
I'll
speak
to
both
parts.
I
think
of
your
question
is
council
member
flaherty.
M
The
average
has
been
just
around
a
billion
dollars
that
we've
actually
transferred.
So
just
as.
M
M
Subsidy
actually
in
in
the
general
fund,
as
we
know
that
there's
some
stability
on
those.
M
E
E
And
and
sorry
I'll
stop
there,
I
have
a
follow-up
but
I'll.
Let
someone
else
go
all
right.
A
Other
council
members,
council,
member
volun,
I'm
not
sure
I
followed
that
explanation
so
you're.
B
M
Think
we'll
only
need
a
million
got
it
okay,
this
for
mr
wayson,
I
think
you
know
the
question.
B
I'm
going
to
ask
you
if
you're
planning
on
trying
to
eliminate
our
general
fund
subsidy.
B
What
role
will
discounts
for
not
putting
your
can
out
play
in
those
increased
rates.
P
I
don't
think
they
will
why
not.
We
are
still
in
a
position
where
we
need
to
count
on.
B
B
B
P
Are
putting
out
their
trash
every
single
week,
and
so
I
think
we
were
describing
and
those.
P
B
Well,
I
mean
that
that's
not
a
demonstration
that
that's
what
people
want
you
know
so.
B
I
mean
why
do
you
at
least
have
the
technology
to
measure
whether
people
are.
P
A
G
About
about
the
same
thing,
so
thanks
for
that
presentation,
I
I
was
going
to
talk
about
pay
as.
G
You
throw-
and
I
guess
I
I
mean
mostly
it-
gives
me
high
anxiety
to
hear
that
the
amount
people
are.
G
Generations
and
if,
if
you're
not
up
for
pay
as
you
throw,
what
can
we
do
to.
G
G
One
or
two
times
a
month,
I
thought
we,
I
think
it's
higher
than
that
for
sure.
But
what
what
if
I.
P
Could
really
quickly
to
say
that
our
system
is
not
encouraging
pay,
as
you
throw
is
not
true.
P
P
P
P
G
I
Absolutely,
and
so
you
know,
the
budget
proposal
right
now
includes
that
full.
P
What
we
would
possibly
propose
so
and
again
we're
still
working
through
the
final
numbers
here.
P
For
year,
one
2023
for
the
lar
for
the
smallest
cart
size.
We
predict
it's
currently
at
651
per.
P
P
P
P
P
That
one
to
have
the
highest
jump
with
about
a
70
increase
at
30,
closer
to
30,
150
or
so.
P
And
that's
year,
one
what's
that
that's
year,
one
that's
year,
one
as
we
would
look
at
the
model.
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
And
you
could
do
it
a
third
or
third
and
a
third,
you
could
look.
You
know
there
there's
a
lot.
P
P
A
Member
flaherty,
of
course,
sorry,
oh
council,
member
smith,
oh
first
round,
yes,
go
for
it.
P
And
it's
you
know
it
could
be
up
for
debate,
but
I
that's
been.
We've
heard
it
from
plenty.
P
Of
council
members,
the
administration
decided
that
this
would
be
a
good
time.
H
Subsidy
and
move
towards
something
else
towards
you
know
increasing
the
rates.
I
I
just
heard.
P
A
row
where
it's
come
up
with
multiple
council
members
to
consider
it
and
you
know
so
that's.
P
That's
where
it
originated
from
and
that's
where
we've
been
trying
to
come
up
with
a
model.
H
Thank
you,
okay
yeah.
I
yeah
I
I
it
perplexes
me
why
we
just
don't
continue
to
subsidize
that.
E
Back
in
briefly
to
that
general
fund
subsidy
and
the
amount
we
put
into
the
the
budget
request.
E
P
Seen
in
gas
prices
and
and
all
the
other
things,
so
I'm
not
sure
that's
going
to
satisfy
your.
P
And
I
think
controller
underwood
may
have
some
explanation,
but
we
can
follow
up
to.
M
That,
if
we
were
unable
to
collect
on
those
fees
that
it
provides
a
cushion
for
that
so.
M
Year,
so
if
there
is
reversions
from
the
fee,
it's
certainly
included
in
that
okay.
Thank
you.
P
P
P
B
B
B
But
if
people
know
that
they
can
get
a
rebate
for
not
putting
their
bin
out,
I
mean
you,
you.
B
Also
said
that
you're
shooting
for
a
goal
of
40
diversion
of
materials
from
the
waste
stream
and.
B
B
B
To
these
numbers
so
councilmember
roland,
I
was
just
reached
back
out
to
staff
on
that.
P
P
More
current
data,
but
again
what
I'm
going
to
continue
to
say
is.
We
need
predictability
in
the.
P
Model
and
that's
in
it,
that's
not
something.
We've
had
over
these
last
several
years.
P
And
to
build
that
predictability,
and
we
we
we
need
to
continue
with
the
model.
I
appreciate
that.
B
The
cost
the
anticipated
cost
of
reducing
every
time
somebody
doesn't
put
their
bin
out.
P
P
We're
going
to
drive
by
that
home,
no
matter
what,
as
part
of
our
routes,
we've
we've.
P
Need
predictability,
and-
and
I
don't
think
we
would
have
that
with
with
the
model
you're.
A
Public
is
there
any
public
comment
about
the
sanitation
division
budget.
A
A
O
O
O
A
The
refreshing
sounds
of
a
soda,
any
other
public
comment.
Do
we
see
any
deputy
attorney.
V
Sustainability
of
human
impact
and
agrees
and
to
having
the
community
be
aware
of
the.
A
So
we'll
come
back
to
city
council
members
for
final
comments
on
the
sanitation
budget.
A
Council,
member
flaherty-
yes,
I
did
just
want
to
briefly
follow
up
and
and
say
thank
you
very.
E
E
On
that,
to
just
briefly
address
some
of
my
colleagues
points
asking
about
it,.
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
Dollars
are
going
so
I
again
appreciate
the
the
efforts
to
to
move
on
this
and
just
a
reminder
to.
E
Of
people
who
might
be
have
a
hard
time
paying
those
bills
do
have
payment
protection
in.
E
I
I
Twice
but-
and
I
think
you
actually
left
one
of
your
kids
soccer
games
for
that
too-
so.
B
B
I
mean
I'm
I'm
not
alone,
so
I
just
I
would
beg
mr
wayson
to
reconsider.
B
Add
to
it
the
cost
for
this
program,
I'm
not
asking
I'm
not
trying
to
undermine
the.
B
Worth
doing
so,
maybe
we
don't
all
agree
yet,
but
you
know
the
the
question
I
asked
was
about.
B
B
I'm
going
to
support
this
year's
budget,
but
I
will
not
support
a
rate
increase
without
a
better.
A
Okay,
I
will
make
just
a
few
brief
comments.
I
appreciate
and
mr
wayson
and
the
administration.
A
Diversion
of
waste
from
landfill
is
something
we
ought
to
pursue,
but
there
there
are
other.
A
A
A
Education
is
huge
in
that
and
talking
with
with
businesses
with
restaurants,
with
the
the
iu.
A
A
P
P
I
know
this
is
a
big
change
to
be
presenting
and
with
no
changes
planned
for
this
current
year.
P
This
is
something
that
we're
proposing
for
2023.,
so,
first,
a
big
thanks
to
joe
van.
P
Dievener
and
his
team,
their
dedication
is
something
that
I'm
not
only
proud
of,
but.
P
It's
just
it's
pretty
remarkable.
It's
another
one
of
those
operations.
That's
24
7
365
days
a
year.
P
P
Grants
through
that-
and
we
currently,
as
of
yesterday,
put
in
an
application
to
do
winslow.
P
P
P
P
P
Doing
pothole
work
outside
of
that
as
well.
So
far
in
20
20
22
we've
met
our
goal
of
crack.
P
Try
to
fulfill
the
entire
goal.
Moving
on
to.
J
P
We're
also,
you
know,
very
proud
of
our
efforts
at
our
investments
in
the.
P
P
P
P
For
inventorying,
all
of
our
signal
cabinets,
the
technologies
that
are
in
them,
which
varies.
P
P
So
on
to
our
2023
goals
and
what
we're
looking
to
accomplish,
you
know
many
of
the
2023
goals
are.
P
P
P
Now
we've
talked
we've
you've
heard
that
we're
talk
we've
this
budget
proposal
in.
P
I'm
not
even
half
done
so
with
the
leaf
curbside
vacuum
leaf
collection
system.
P
P
P
Index
sidewalk
condition
index
and
all
of
that
to
to
influence
our
decisions
on
where
we
make
our.
P
All
in
all
years
past,
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
sidewalks
and
what
we
do
there.
P
P
Homeowners
on
a
50
50
program
for
sidewalk
repairs,
what
we've
found
is
that
we've
always
targeted.
P
P
Budget
request
we
coordinate
with
engineering
with
private
consultants
and
others
on
our
on.
P
Our
traffic
signal
network-
it
is
not
a
perfect
network,
it's
varying
technologies.
You
know.
P
P
P
Our
way
towards
that,
with
some
very
targeted
investments
and
and
some
studies
of
the
system.
P
Street
sweeping
this
is
another
big
topic
that
we're
possibly
going
to
make
some.
P
Major
changes
in
2023
right
now
we're
trying
to
get
to
every
one
of
our
city
maintained
streets
at.
P
P
Higher
than
the
engineer
estimates,
so
we
have
not
been
able
to
award
in
last
year
or
the
bids
we.
P
P
P
P
All
right,
this
is
where
it
gets
into
the
the
dollars
and
cents
of
all
of
the
different.
P
P
The
past,
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
be
as
specific
as
I
can
here
overall
for
the
mvh
451
and.
P
P
P
Ccd
601
and
600.:
this
is
the
queue
capital,
development
and
queue
cap.
What's
I
stand
for.
P
Cap
development
kim
cap
improvement,
thank
you
nate,
and
so
this
is
a.
P
About
a
quarter
million
dollar
increase
here,
we're
like
I
talked
about
some
of
those
traffic.
P
Signal
improvement
projects
we're
doing
this
is
in
category
two,
where
we
see
an
increase
there.
P
Beyond
what
we
spent
last
year,
that's
a
twenty
thousand
dollar
increase.
P
Category
three,
not
much
of
an
increase
there
and
again
in
category
four
here
for
ccd
we're.
P
P
P
P
P
Is
fuel
or
all
the
things
that
go
into
the
supply
increases
major
increase
in
category
three
here.
P
P
Department
and
just
to
wrap
it
up
again,
the
the
buzz
proposal
for
2023
includes.
P
P
Crosswalk
applying
and
you
know
putting
down
crosswalks
in-house,
you
know
so
there's
a
lot.
P
Overall
productivity
at
the
street
department.
So
let's
go
to
questions
and
thank
you
for.
P
A
Council
member
flaherty,
thank
you.
I
thought
I
was
gonna
get
away
with
that.
E
Couldn't
let
that
go
no
first,
just
some
some
kudos
on
some
of
the
trip
hazard
work.
That's.
E
Streets
division
would
that
be
a
new
position
or
a
position
you're
trying
to
replace.
P
P
Urban
forester,
through
parks
and
rec
on
specific
arborists
type
questions.
Our
team
is
super.
P
A
No
all
right
well
we'll
go
to
the
public,
then.
Is
there
anybody
in
the
public
who
would
like
to.
A
A
O
O
O
O
O
But
it
is
still
fantastically
insufficient.
The
scale
of
sidewalk
vegetation
in
this
city,
you
know.
O
A
V
E
About
the
overall
traffic
signal,
updating
pro
process
and
the
plans,
you
know
to
deal
with.
E
That
mr
alexander's
comment
reminded
me
of
just
just
how
true
that
is
that
we've
got.
E
E
Respect
to
what
it
should
be
in
line
with
our
values,
so
I
know
the
technology's
been
a.
G
B
A
Yes,
go
ahead,
okay,
not
much
to
say
I
mean
I
am
perfectly
fine
with
the
street
department
budget.
B
Always
admire
the
work
that
they
do,
although
I
agree
with
councilmember
flaherty
that
or.
B
Department
in
general,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
controller's
office
for
particularly
for.
B
The
the
tables
that
show
departmental
budgets
by
fund-
I
think
that
was
an
important.
B
B
And
so,
as
far
as
the
presentation
goes,
you
know
the
fact
that
tonight
went
late,
isn't
a
reflection.
B
Of
any
department's
long
presentation,
it's
more
of
a
failure
of
the
council
to.
A
E
E
And
the
article
talked
about
how
traffic
deaths,
especially
among
pedestrians
and
bicyclists,
have.
E
Been
up
over
the
last
decade,
forty
thousand
traffic
deaths
last
year,
and
and
they
were.
E
Of
things
that
we're
doing
things,
you
know
like
putting
delineated
posts
or
plastic
bollards.
E
E
E
For
for
me,
as
well,
and
to
the
extent
that
with
the
existing
technology,
even
if
it
requires
going.
E
High
priority
to
to
implement
leading
pedestrian
signals
wherever
possible.
E
A
All
right,
any
other
council
members
care
to
comment.
I
will
just
say
thank
you
very
much.