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A
Recommendation
as
a
reminder,
on
monday,
the
council
passed
a
motion
to
limit
instructure
debate
for.
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And
the
meeting
host
deputy
attorney
ash
kulak
can
help
to
administer
that.
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A
Here
that
I
thought
the
public
might
benefit
from
a
do
pass
vote
or
a
motion
is
sort
of
shorthand.
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Serve
as
sort
of
bellwether
for
how
the
council
is
feeling
and
an
opportunity
to
express
concerns.
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C
That
and
unfortunately
they
let
us
know
that
they
don't
have
the
teachers
to
open
the
facility.
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A
Other
questions
from
council
members,
councilmember
sims,
thank
you
and
thank
you.
E
For
the
presentation,
just
two
questions-
you
talked
about
vast
veteran
affairs,
yes,
supportive.
E
Housing
vouchers,
how
many
did
you
say
that
you
had
that
were
unused,
so
we
have
about
20.
We.
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Exactly
so,
okay,
thank
you.
The
only
other
question
I
have
you
mentioned
the
hud
held.
E
Keep
no
actually
there
there
isn't.
There
is
an
excessive
amount
that.
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A
G
Was
what
is
there
an
unfulfilled
need
that
you
track
at
the
bloomington
housing
authority?
Yes,.
C
That
I
could
probably
provide
for
everybody
for
what
we
did
last
year,
that
actually
breaks.
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A
Issues
there
on
zoom
for
a
moment
so
for
members
of
the
public,
this
is
the
bloomington.
A
Housing
authority
budget
presentation
we
heard
if
you
would
like
to
make
a
comment.
Please
use
the.
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A
The
public
wishing
to
comment
on
this
budget.
Yes,
we
have
tanda
radawan,
who
I
will
ask
to
unmute.
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F
Slide
that
was
presented,
it
was
the
one
with
the
administrative
budget
that
was
listed.
I
think.
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F
Question
during
this
time,
yes,
so
tenant
services
would
be
sorry
as
a
matter
of
procedural.
A
Quite
often,
when
members
of
the
public
ask
a
question,
a
council
member
will
take
it
up
on.
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A
Mr
edwan,
for
your
comment:
if
you
have
any
more,
you
still
have
time
remaining.
I
think.
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I
Do
the
donations
get
reflected
in
the
budget?
They
do
not
as
part
of
that
program.
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Resident
council
well,
one
reason
I
ask
is
because
I
wonder
well
if
there's
some
way
that.
I
We
can
perhaps
put
a
little
more
money
to
it
that
can
leverage
more.
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C
Course
I
mean
we
have
a
jack
hopkins
program.
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
conflict
that.
I
Might
be
between
you
know,
I
don't
know
whether
to
characterize
your
agency
as
a
city
agency
or
a.
I
Federal
agency,
it's
kind
of
a
little
about
and
the
what
the
hopkins
fund
does
but
and.
I
Might
be
able
to
speak
about
this.
But
if
we,
if
there's
some
way
that
that,
because
the
program
is.
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Events
that
we
have,
I
just
realized
that
my
time
has
run
out.
I
couldn't
see
the
clock,
but.
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A
For
being
here
tonight,
mr
zenith
and
presenting
the
bha
2023
budget,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
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J
So
so
we
want
to
be
more
intentional
about
our
climate
action
participation
in
the
next
year,
so.
J
For
2022
we
have
completed
our
two
neighborhood
cleanups
mcdole
gardens
in
eastern
heights.
J
J
J
Helped
about
50
people
come
through
the
home
buyers,
club
class
and
we'll
we'll
survey.
J
J
So
for
2023,
looking
ahead,
we
want
to
continue
aligning
our
goals
with
planning.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
Get
that
number
down
and
and
make
sure
we're
we're
being
mindful
of
constituent
response.
J
J
J
J
We
award
the
grants
and
you
do
through
council
action
that
they
have
a
good
system
in
place
to.
J
So
the
highlights
for
the
budget
this
year
ran
through
our
goals.
J
In
the
category
one
personnel
services,
we
have
a
1.2
million
dollar
ask,
and
this.
J
J
J
J
Committed
2.7
million
dollars
to
heading
home
initiative.
I
think
I
see
mary
morgan
here
tonight.
J
J
J
J
Otherwise
be
sort
of
beat
out
in
the
market
right,
they
aren't
in
a
position
to
offer
cash
or.
J
J
J
J
And
our
our
categories,
one
through
four
hundred
and
then
our
department
by
budget
by
fund
so.
J
You'll
see
the
new
position
paid
for
by
edie,
led
in
the
100
category
and
then
the
now
the.
J
J
J
K
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L
I
was
wondering
you,
you
were
talking
about
how
many
tons
were
diverted
from
the
landfill.
L
L
J
J
J
You
as
you
and
I
have
discussed,
but
we
have
you
know
the
we
have
the
sanitation
truck.
J
There
that
is
able
to
measure
we
have
the
sort
of
reuse
pile.
So
if
somebody
has.
J
A
wheelbarrow
or
you
know,
a
couch
or
something
that
isn't
something
to
go
in
the
trash.
L
J
L
Ends
up
in
the
landfill,
so
that's
why
I'm
maybe
I'm
angela
is
that.
Let
me
ask
a
program
manager.
J
J
Thank
you
angela
angela
van
roy
program
manager,
yeah.
My
other
question
is
about
the
arpa
funds.
L
So
you
mentioned
that
you'd
be
requesting.
Well,
I'm
a
bit
confused.
I
thought
in
your
presentation.
L
Tonight
you
said
1.4
million
in
arpa
funding
in
then
there's
the
home
arpa
funds
sure
are.
L
Those
two
different
buckets
and
what
are
those
four
yeah,
so
they
aren't,
they
aren't
being.
J
Requested
tonight
the
1.4
million
dollars
is
already
appropriated
for
2022..
I
just
wanted
to
be.
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J
J
J
J
J
J
That
will
be
that
work
will
start
this
fall.
So
that's
money,
that's
above
and
beyond
what
is.
J
Being
requested
tonight
and
it's
it's
federal
dollars,
obviously
so
the
the
remaining
2.1
million.
L
L
J
J
Mary's
thunder
there,
but
there
is
a
planned
update
for
council.
I
believe
in.
J
D
On
what
I
had
asked
for
prior
to
the
hearings
tonight
about
the
affordable
units
that
are.
D
Added
what
I
would
like
in
addition
to,
and
you
said,
that
there's
going
to
be
more
income
info.
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J
J
Okay,
thank
you
for
that,
and
then
you
mentioned
earlier
that
you
are
monitoring
workforce
housing.
J
J
J
J
J
When
I
say
affordable
and
workforce,
so
the
department
is
so
I'll.
Just
tell
you
what
we've.
J
J
J
I
Asked
all
the
questions
that
I
wanted
to
ask.
I
appreciate
I
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
same.
I
Affordable
there's
a
line
that
says
the
2020.
J
It
is
not
that
that's
a
total
number
there's
a
subset
of
those
that
are
that
are
affordable.
J
I
B
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J
Excuse
me,
deputy
may,
seek
some
clarification
or
do
we
need
to
move
on.
We
can
come
back
to
it.
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A
J
How
many
rental
units
we
have
in
the
city
of
bloomington
right
now
is
that
is
that
helpful.
I
J
M
M
J
J
J
J
Where
the
litigation
goes,
we
would
believe
we
would
need
additional
inspection
staff
if.
M
M
M
Have
30
seconds
to
respond?
Perhaps
you
might
want
to
let
me
say
this
november
16th
will
be
my.
J
E
Thank
you
thank
you
for
the
report,
mr
zodie,
and
I
also
commend
your
staff.
They
do
a
lot.
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J
J
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J
J
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J
J
Students
move
in
and
a
lot
of
things
coming
up
and
you
know
over
the
weekend
I
asked
somebody
to.
J
And
be
pretty
responsive,
so
we're
very
proud
of
that
and
I
think,
as
title
six
goes
and.
J
Title
16
goes
to
elaborate
on
councilman
overalls
question.
I
think
we're
doing
fine
thanks.
J
Yeah
I've
got
one.
I
wanted
to
follow
up
about
the
housing
development
fund,
a
bit
more.
A
A
I
think
it's
called
affordable
housing
in
the
chart.
The
sort
of
large
chart.
A
J
J
A
O
A
Or
something
else
in
the
chart
that
was
added
it's,
I
think
it's
page
15.
A
Are
contributions
and
housing
loans?
Could
you
you
describe
what
those
two
sources
are
sure
so.
J
J
J
J
J
That
would
be
the
main
main
source
of
revenue
that
you're
seeing
in
the
budget
book.
So
is
that.
A
A
In
in
that,
not
that
I'm
not
supportive
of
it
or
something
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
it.
A
Yeah
more
clearly,
you
know
what
the
difference
from
year
to
year
is
in
the
what
is
sourcing.
J
Maybe
early
july,
and
so
that
the
cash
balance
of
the
fund
was,
I
think,
around
400
000.
So
we
are.
J
2.6
we're
going
to
ask:
we
are
holding
500
000
back
that
we
may
come
back
to
you
at
the
end.
J
J
J
D
D
D
J
J
Of
a
large
party
in
one
of
our
neighborhoods
over
the
weekend
and
the
I
got
contacted
from.
J
J
J
J
J
Far
as
the
rental
side
goes,
title
16,
the
lease
agreement
would
would
have
a
role
there.
J
And
so
on,
on
trash
and
things
like
that,
it's
you
know,
that
is
the
resident's
responsibility.
J
J
A
E
That's
right
first
thing:
can
you
tell
us-
and
I
know
it's
not
exact
and
I
know.
J
J
The
job
grade
it
would
be
so
I
can
get
that
to
you,
but
and
so
that
person's
role
would
be
as.
J
J
J
J
J
We
both
would,
but
our
our
assistant
director
has
has
supervision
over
the
title
16
program.
J
L
Yes,
I've
been
talking
to
a
few
residents
who
live
in
cooperative
housing
through
billington.
L
And
have
there
been
any
developments
in
that
area
in
the
past
year?
They
have
so
we've.
J
L
And
is
there
any
other
cooperative
organization
that
maybe
the
city
could
encourage.
J
As
organizations
yet
I
was
on
a
conversation
earlier
this
year
with
a
group
that
was
looking.
J
J
To
anybody
that
wants
to
talk
about
affordable
housing,
I'm
not
to
sound,
you
know
patronizing.
J
J
L
I
always
wonder
about
the
interplay
there
yeah,
I
haven't,
hasn't
come
to
my
purview
as
a.
J
I
Thank
you,
mr
zodie.
So
in
the
conversation
about
affordable
housing
units
being
built,
I
know.
I
That
in
the
first
year
or
two
of
the
hamilton
administration,
that
was
done
through
creative.
I
I
How
is
that
working
sure,
I
would
say
yeah
that
obviously
predates
me,
but
I
think
that
the
new.
J
The
housing
development
fund
through
our
home
dollars,
which
we
are
trying
to.
J
J
J
The
city
owns
the
property.
We
are
working,
as
ms
gazoonist
mentioned,
working
with
the.
J
J
A
position
to
own
the
property
and
and
help
advance
its
development.
I
think
that
creates.
J
A
third
avenue
for
the
for
driving
forward
affordability.
Here
in
the
city,
I
can't
see
the.
I
Timer,
so
someone
will
give
me
a
heads
up,
but
so
of
the
227
units
that
were
created
last
year.
I
Can
you
roughly
break
down
how
they
were
how
they
came
to
be?
I
would
have
to.
J
J
I
J
J
Are
rare,
more
rare
but
low
income
housing
tax
credit
projects
like
that
one
are
also
possible.
I
I
Was
looking
for
with
the
greater
breakdown
of
how
those
units
were
like
what
was
the
origin.
I
Of
the
affordable
housing
was
it
triggered
by
which
aspect
of
code
final
question
is:
are
those.
I
Council
member
roland,
you
were
actually
already
at
your
time
prior
to
that
question.
Okay,
thank.
I
K
Or
blanks
or
a
blank
canvas
with
that
in
mind,
can
you
share
an
update
on
the
trinitas
project
on.
K
West
17th,
please
I'll,
be
glad
to
thank
you
for
the
question
so
the
to
give
quick
background
on.
J
The
project
there's
a
large
rental
development
which
is
being
built,
nearing
completion,
which
is.
J
J
J
J
J
N
N
N
N
J
J
J
J
J
J
A
Not
seeing
any,
let's
maybe
go
to
the
public
now
and
we
can
come
back
for
third
round
questions.
A
If
council
members
have
them,
but
is
anyone
in
chambers
interested
in
commenting
on
the
housing.
A
A
A
Yes,
mr
zodie,
should
I
respond
back
to
councilmember
vol's
question.
J
J
J
I
think
the
one
on
housing
units
and
home
dollars
were
the
two
that
I
noted
right.
Yeah.
I
It
was
if
the
hot,
the
home
dollars
is
the
question
you
wanted
to
follow
up
on
all
ears.
Okay,.
J
Home
dollars
are
allocated
to
the
city
every
year
as
part
of
our
entitlement
status
as
50
000.
J
J
To
get
583
000
in
home,
that's
an
allocation
that
comes
every
year
to
to
the
city,
and
so
that.
J
And
we
also
that's
our
down
payment
assistance
programs
that
are
funded
federally.
I
More
basic
questions,
but
I
will
ask:
why
haven't
we
pursued
a
housing
trust
before
now.
I
J
Trust
some
time
ago
in
bloomington
and
I
think,
a
priority
of
the
administration
and
the
housing.
J
Authority
through
their
development
arm
was
to
create
the
land
trust
through
summit
hill.
So.
J
I
J
Done
what
I
can't
say,
the
level
of
difficulty,
but
there
is
a
financing,
that's
important
there.
So.
J
J
I
Trust
where
they're
just
preserving
land
to
be
not
developed
they're.
This
is
about
managing.
I
J
D
D
D
Hand,
department
has,
I
don't
know
if
how
those
efficiencies
are
are
being
you
know
factored
in.
D
A
I
will
briefly
just
think
thanks
again,
mr
oh
councilman
rolling
I'll
go
to
you.
First
go
ahead.
I
I
don't
have
you
don't
have
to
go
last
but
okay.
I
want
to
echo
customer
sandberg's.
I
Comments
about
housing-
I
do
I
I
have
never
understood
why
I
mean
in
years
past.
I
would
ask.
I
The
van
han
director
listen,
we
could,
you
know
in
in
district
six
alone,.
I
Half
of
you're
inspected,
you're
inspector,
we
take
up
half
of
your
inspectors.
I
Because
there's
so
many
rentals
in
districts
that
I
know
that
hand
inspectors
have
gotten
more.
I
Means
we
have
a
lot
more
concerns
about
quality
of
life
that
could
perhaps
be
enforced
by
the.
I
But
I
will
be
looking
forward
to
getting
the
data
that
we've
talked
about
just
sort
of.
I
I
Way
of
tracking
it
now
and
it's
another
way
of
responding
to
the
mistake
that
was
the
2020
census.
I
Her
neighboring
project
trying
to
actively
address
the
idea:
how
do
we
make
students
into
neighbors.
A
I
have
just
a
brief
couple
of
comments.
First
is
just
a
request
to
please,
please
be
sure
to.
A
A
For
in
a
systematic
way,
that
is
helpful
for
us
digesting
the
information,
so
I
know.
A
On
that
front,
so
please
be
extra
careful
in
the
future
to
use
consistent
terminology.
A
That
for
my
vote
tonight
and
if
there
are
other
comments,
I
would
entertain
a
do
pass
motion.
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion,
a
motion
in
a
second
for
the
council
to
recommend
do
pass
on
the.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Category
four
capital
requests
because
the
the
ed
lid
is
unique
for
budgeting
in
2023.
Let
me.
Q
And
forty
six
thousand
five
hundred
for
continuing
public
arts.
Q
Q
Q
Q
A
M
Presentation,
so
could
you
expound
on
what
is
meant
by
climate
economy.
Q
The
work
that
we
do
is
that
we
can
very
easily
affect
our
own
operations
right.
We
if
we
have.
Q
Represents
about
you
know,
ten
percent
of
the
total
emissions
and,
and
so
relatively
speaking,
it's.
Q
Q
To
figure
out
ways
in
which
we
can
actually,
you
know,
incentivize
and
and
and
encourage
private.
Q
M
Okay,
I'm
a
little
unclear
about
that
still.
But
let's
move
on
to
at
a
second
question.
M
Q
Q
Q
Q
On
the
on
the
ed
led
detail
in
your
budget,
and
could
you
just
give
us
shortly?
What
is
the
status.
Q
Know
plowing
ahead.
I
know
that
they
had
some
staff
turnovers
early,
on
which
I
think
sort
of.
Q
Challenged
them,
I
have
not
gotten
a
report
from
them
recently,
but
I
can
send
you
the
latest
report.
Q
K
For
the
report,
the
presentation
tonight,
I
have
a
questions
along
a
couple
lines,
but.
K
I
want
to
start
with
workforce
development
and
economic
development.
You
talked
about.
K
Q
Update
from
the
mill
and
mil
the
mill
administers
a
lot
of
that
that
those
programming
dollars.
Q
And
maybe
what
I
can
do
is
follow
up
with
you.
After
the
fact,
I
think,
generally
speaking,.
Q
It's
been
very
successful,
whether
it's
you
know
the
code
school
that
they
that
they.
Q
Work
on
in
collaboration
with
ivy
tech
or
some
of
these
reboot,
which
is
kind
of
focused.
Q
Q
You
know
work-at-home
mothers,
so
they're
being
very
it's
very
interesting
and
they're
being.
Q
Entrepreneurship,
for
example,
as
a
as
a
career
path.
You
know,
as
you
may
know,
the
code,
the.
K
K
Would
very
much
appreciate
that
data
also,
just
in
the
time
I
have
left,
can
you
share
an
update
on.
Q
Amount
of
time-
and
some
people
never
got
those,
but
they
were
subsequent
rounds,
and
so
is.
Q
You
know
repayments
we're
collecting
that
that
the
downside
is
that
there's
still
some
businesses.
Q
Q
Owner
who
actually
showed
me
their
their
p
l's
for
the
last
three
years,
and
and
it
was
so
stark.
Q
Q
Three
three
four
three
years
of
p
l's
profit
law
statements.
Then
you
realize
that,
like
there's.
Q
Q
D
D
My
question
has
to
do
about
the
arpa
funding
line
that
you
have
here,
because
that
is
time.
D
Huge
huge
issue
for
many
working
families-
yeah.
It
is
absolutely
it's
one
of
the
it's
a.
Q
It's
a
serious
pain
point
for
people
trying
to
get
back
to
work
so
that
money
has
kind
of.
Q
They
started
it
back
in
19,
maybe
or
20,
or
something
like
that.
So
there's
there's.
Q
The
amount
that
was
kind
of
committed
to
that
we
this
year,
looking
at
a
proposal
from.
Q
If
you
think
of
it
as
a
shared
service
model
for
for
providers,
so
there's
a
lot
of
waste.
Q
Q
Problem,
that's
terribly
inefficient.
If
everybody
out
there
is
I'm
not
sure
that.
Q
This
is
one
of
those
things,
but
if
everybody
out
there
is
buying
diapers
individually
and
they.
A
L
Couple
things
that
came
up
in
your
presentation,
the
28
000
increase
in
employee
benefit
costs.
L
Q
Q
Q
Q
Coordinator
join
us,
you
know
or
be
proposed
to
join
us
that
never
made
the
budget
so.
Q
Q
A
new
position
on
budget,
a
new
position
that
is
continuing
into
2020
three
and
then
I
think.
Q
L
Okay
thanks.
The
other
question
I
had
was
the
3.81
million
of
the
ed
lit
requests,
that
is
for.
Q
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
I
think
we're
kind
of
a
holding
it.
I
I
believe
what
has
to
happen.
Q
Is
it
needs
to
be
placed
in
a
budget
needs
to
be
placed
in
the
budget
of
the
city?
There
is
a.
Q
Process
that
is
gonna
that
is
underway
already
for
well,
I
don't
know
if
it's
an
interlocal
but.
Q
Q
The
you
know
the
the
there's
nothing
about
our
work
that
is
requiring
us
to.
L
O
And
then
they
appropriate.
Those
so
john
talked
about
that
in
his
budget
presentation
last
night.
O
So,
as
alex
said,
we're
currently
working
with
legal
and
bt
to
pull
those
grants,
documents.
L
O
O
O
A
Okay,
with
that,
we
can
go
to
the
public
for
any
comment,
I
see
maybe
one
or
two
here
in
chambers.
A
R
Thanks,
my
name
is
greg
alexander
four
years
ago
economic
and
sustainable
development
came
to
this.
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
S
S
S
S
S
A
A
Online
commenters,
then
for
the
esd
budget.
With
that
we'll
return
to
the
council
members
for
any.
N
Thank
you
for
that
presentation.
I
had
a
question
about
the
the
lot
that
you
are.
N
Planning
on
selling
in
the
trades
district
is
that
very
general
right
now
or
do
you
know.
N
Q
Interested
in
different
lots,
so
the
short
answer
is
that
we
know
that
they
have
a
preference.
Q
Well
or
whether
we
can
ease
them
into
a
different
preference.
But
but
the
reference
to
the
to.
Q
The
sale
of
the
lot
in
the
presentation
is
sort
of
a
generic
right.
It's
it's
just
to
start.
N
Q
Trying
to
encourage
people
who
are
interested
in
you
know
developing
in
there
to
not
have.
Q
Q
To
attract
and
and
then
consolidate
parking,
as
opposed
to
have
it
distributed
throughout
the.
Q
Part
of
the
strategy
that
we're
pursuing
nobody
wants
a
corporate
park
that
goes
dead
at
night.
Q
N
That's
exciting
the
last
part
of
that.
Would
you
also
then
be
encouraging
a
percentage
of
housing.
Q
May
know
the
the
the
housing
that's
on
the
west
side
of
rogers
is
affordable,
housing.
Q
Q
Retain
the
the
the
revenues,
so
the
the
two
fees
are,
the
one-time
application
fee
sort
of
annual.
Q
Q
And
then
that's
15
cents
per
ride
again
retroactive
to
the
preceding
month.
So
once
a
month.
Q
Q
Q
Two
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
to
you
know,
through
the
through
the
period
that
we've
been.
Q
Q
I'm
not
mistaken
somewhere
in
that
in
that
range
and
and
the
200
000
includes
both
the
per
ride.
Q
And
the
and
the
application
fees
and
then
the
monies
I
think
are
have
been
sitting
there.
Q
And
that
that
money,
that
funding
is
what
director
wayson
is,
is
going
to
leverage
as
we.
Q
Want
to
start
doing
some
of
the
changes
that
that
have
been
detailed.
I
think
in
the.
L
All
right,
so
the
thank
you
that's
very
interesting,
so
the
money
that
comes
in.
L
A
M
M
That
what
will
that
be
used
for
so
I
and
again
I
will
happy
to
share
detail,
so
you
know.
Q
So
there's
there's
75
000
for
forestry
for
for
trees
and
yeah,
and
I
think
that
that
is
the.
Q
Is
a
collaboration
with
with
canopy
and
and
to
sort
of
augment
some
of
the.
Q
Q
Q
Q
You
know
director
mcdevitt
will
have
to
speak
to
that.
We
have
augmented
monies
so
that.
M
D
Accessibility
issues,
so
this
is
something
I
hear
probably
more
frequently
than
almost
anything.
D
And
and
council
memberallo
of
mines,
constituent
meetings,
so
they're
kind
of
coming
after
us
to
put.
Q
Q
Q
And
I'm
really
annoyed
when
I
see
a
parking
scooter,
that's
parked
in
a
bad.
So
it's
like
why.
Q
There
are
issues
out
there
how
widespread-
I
think
you
know,
may
be
open
for
debate,
but
they're.
Q
Q
Whether
it's
scooter
companies
or
individual
riders,
accountable,
while
at
the
same
time.
Q
I
think
we
should
just
tactically
be
fixing
the
problems
before
anybody.
You
know
before.
Q
Q
We
need
the
scooter
companies
to
pay
for
then
we
should
but
have
people
out
there
that
are
sort.
Q
Q
Problem
is
and
I'll
go
back
to
council
member
flaherty's
anecdote
from
the
other
day
where.
Q
Q
Q
Scooter
up
to
the
outside
of
this
of
the
classroom,
and
they
will,
it
will
not
be
a
parking.
Q
Q
Q
Q
You
could
do
that
too
yeah
or
you
can.
You
know
you
can
use
this
geocoding
functionality
that.
Q
Q
Q
Attempted
I
think,
what's
going
on
in
part
with
with
the
data
that
I've
seen
is
first
of
all,.
Q
Q
Q
There's
an
ongoing
problem
and
I
think
that
the
plan
that
director
wayson's
proposing
and
all.
E
E
Q
Q
On
zune
you
can
imagine
how
wildly
popular
they
were,
but
but
you
know
there
is
a
fair
amount.
Q
Q
Q
Can
be
improved,
I
do
see
it
as
a
responsibility
of
the
scooter
companies
and
I
think
that
I
should.
Q
Q
Are
very
responsive
on
that
front
so,
where
it's
harder,
I
think
and
and
and
just
kind
of.
Q
Q
Q
On
campus,
and
just
give
you
a
sense
of
like
the
problems
are
worse
at
the
start
of
the
year.
Q
Curve
at
the
start
of
the
semester,
and-
and
you
know
that's
the
data
that
supports
that.
E
E
Seen
any
budgetary
designation
for
bedc
the
bloomington
economic
development
corporation.
A
Additional
questions,
comments
from
council
members,
council
member
smith,
I'm
sorry
and
then.
A
Councilman
roland,
thank
you
congressman.
I
know
you
get
you
get
picked
on
about
the
scooters.
A
lot.
Q
Affordability
and
movement
and
convenience
right,
so
the
majority
of
people
using
scooters,
are.
Q
Likely
students
or
that
age
group,
so
I
I
put
a
certain
amount
of
credence
in
that
they
don't.
Q
Really
have
a
vested
interest,
you
know
financial
or
any
way
to
to
either
support
or
be
against.
Q
Coming
and
going
many
of
them
are
scootering,
and
you
know
mike
there's
still
a
lot
of.
Q
Of
I
think
this
displacement
either
from
cars,
possibly
from
buses,
but
I
think
that
there's
a.
Q
And
it
relieves
some
of
the
pressure
on
vehicle
travel
now
you
know
there's
questionable.
Q
It
claims
that
student
that
that
scooter
companies
make
about
exactly
the
offs
offset.
Q
Coal
generated
you
know
power
source
and
then
bring
it
back.
A
lot
of
them
are
moving
to.
Q
To
replaceable
battery
models,
and
so
I
think
that
that
does
cut
down
on
some
of
that
kind
of.
Q
Pay
us
10
000
a
year
plus
15
cents
per
ride
and
how
many
companies
do
we
have
in
bloomington.
U
Yes,
can
you
hear
me
okay,
yep,
following
up
on
customer
smith's
question.
Q
Q
Six
yeah
sixty,
but
you
know
keeping
in
mind
that
it's
hard
to
it's
hard
to
average
out
because.
Q
The
pandemic
was
right
in
the
middle
of
that,
so
there
was
a
significant
depression
of
of
usage.
I
Where
in
the
budget,
scooter
numbers
would
show
up?
Because
I
see
exactly
one
use
of
the.
O
O
Information
on
the
state
required
forms,
but
I
can
find
a
particular
line
for
you
that.
O
Would
show
up
in
our
annual
cities
and
towns
report
well,
which
department
claims
the
revenue.
O
I
Audio,
so
can
you
all
hear
me
we
can
hear
you
yeah,
I
I
missed
the
the
part.
Okay,
I
missed
the.
I
More
questions,
but
we
can
estimate
from
the
revenue
how
many
scooter
rides
are
happening.
Q
So
we
have
an
understanding
of
of
that
data.
We
also
track
at
the
department
level,
just
as
part
of.
Q
Q
That
they
get
dumped
into
the
into
the
general
fund,
but
we
have
that
data
on
it.
On
aggregate
and.
Q
And
and
ride
basis-
hey,
that's
great,
like
I
see
with
other
departments,
this
is
the
kind
of
thing.
I
We're
all
interested
in
the
question
of
scooters,
you
know,
where
is
the
data.
I
A
Additional
questions:
councilmember
scamulary,
yes,
thank
you
and
just.
K
Let's
stay
with
scooters,
shall
we
so
did
I
did
I
understand
you
correctly
that.
K
Efforts
at
enforcement
did
I
understand
that
correctly.
It
is
our
what
has
not
yet
to
date.
Q
As
a
pilot
will
tap
that
revenue
and
and
also
future
plans,
will
tap
that
revenue,
so
that's.
Q
Q
K
Q
Q
K
A
Follow-Up
to
that
question:
let's
go
ahead.
You
know,
as
far
as
how
we
institute
policing
of
it.
P
I
want
to
make
sure
that
y'all
receive
that,
but
we'll
we'll
have
more
more
to
come.
A
We'll
follow
up
any
additional
questions:
councilman
rivolin.
I
I
A
question
about
the
trade
district
garage:
again:
it's
roughly
12.5
million
dollars.
I
I
I've
done
my
math
right
and,
if
it's
being
used
at
substantially
less
than
capacity.
I
Built
to
last
they're,
you
know
and
in
a
way
some
of
our
garages,
we
had
to
treat
like
a.
I
Depreciable
asset,
so
I
guess
my
question
to
you
is:
how
do
you
think
think
about
the.
I
Q
Get
back
to
you
on
that
on
the
second
front,
you
know,
I
think
there
was
always
an
anticipation.
Q
That
the
garage
would
precede
the
demand
for
its
capacity,
and
that
is
the
nature
of
of
you
know.
Q
Q
I
I'm
asking
is
not
you
know,
should
we
accept
that
there's
going
to
be
losses,
that
question
is.
I
Unused,
like
the
the
value
of
the
garage,
is
in
leveraging
development.
You
know
how
many
years.
I
I
mean
they,
I
I
I
would
like
to
maybe
wonder
if
the
controller
could
weigh
in
here
and.
Q
And
running
and-
and
you
know
again,
it's
it's
kind
of
an
interesting
phenomenon.
People
are
like.
Q
Q
Q
I
Of
this
I'm
asking
the
specific
question
is:
how
much
are
we
spending
to
take
that
long
view.
I
How
much
you
know
of
the
value
of
the
garage
is
going
to
depreciate
because
for
three
years,
five.
I
I
Q
And
and
our
office
we
will
follow
up
on
that
very
specific
question.
You
just
asked.
A
A
A
Would
like
to
be
yes,
please
thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
yes
thank
you,
mr
griffin,
for
reminding
us.
L
And
I
I
do
look
forward
to
hearing
more
about
the
the
pilot
enforcement
program.
The
parking.
L
L
L
L
L
Council
comment:
I
know
you're
both
at
the
podium
you
want
to.
You
want
to
conver
converse.
N
About
the
budget
but
to
obstructions
to
sidewalks,
and
I
think,
if
we're
talking
about.
N
N
N
N
M
M
Take
care
in
terms
of
placing
the
the
bins
in
an
appropriate
place,
but.
M
Do
ticket
cars
in
neighborhood
parking
zones,
for
instance,.
M
They're
driving
around
they
could
simply
stop
and,
and
take
you
know,
find
those
find
the.
M
The
scooters
I
think
that
it's
they're,
built
to
essentially
to
throw
away
after
40
rides
or.
M
M
Thing
is:
is
enforcement
of
the
code,
and
so
I'm
sure
we'll
continue
talking
about
this,
but.
M
I
Yeah,
I
I've
been
looking
into
the
code
about
why
we
exactly
allow
bins
on
the
sidewalks
and.
I
You
know
looking
for
what
other
cities
do
they
put
their
bins
on
the
grass
and
they
put.
I
Their
bins
in
the
street,
but
the
bins
shouldn't
be
on
the
sidewalk
in
the
first
place.
But.
I
An
investment
that's
gone
badly
like
the
trade
sister
garage.
It's
one
thing
to.
I
Have
a
white
elephant,
it's
another
thing
to
not
acknowledge
the
white
elephant.
Yes,
I
know
it's.
I
Almost
no
demand
for
the
trade
score
district
garage
and
in
general,
like
I,
just
don't
like.
I
This
pattern
that
says
that
that
seems
to
imply
we'll
take
care
of
it.
Don't
worry
about
it.
I
Regulate
scooters
ought
to
be
a
message
to
the
administration
that
this
is
not
acceptable.
I
This
kind
of
response
is
not
acceptable.
I
think
that
we
need
to
acknowledge.
I
I
Like
the
the
administration
has
to
be
frank
about
the,
the
losses
represents
to
acknowledge
it.
I
Convention
center
garage
in
the
first
place,
but
now
like
show
me
hard
data
like
I'm
just
not.
I
Going
to
believe
a
pitch
like
that
anymore,
so
I
would
ask
mr
crowley
and
the
department
to.
I
You
know
come
today
to
jesus.
I
don't
have
a
better
phrase
than
that
about
these
issues.
I
You
know
that
I
think
they're
very
serious
and
you're
risking
counsel
action.
Thank
you.
A
Councilmember
scandalary,
yes,
thank
you.
There.
K
K
K
K
Worked
out,
I
think
we
all
have
high
hopes
for
it.
We
all
believe
in
the
importance
of
that
kind,.
K
Of
work,
I
want
to
see
how
we've
done
so
far,
so
I'm
actually
going
to
be
passing
tonight.
A
E
E
E
It
would-
and
I
still
anticipate
that
so
I
plan
to
support
this
budget
tonight.
Thank
you.
A
I
just
wanted
to
briefly
note
that
I
think
the
conversation
around.
A
A
About
the
full
picture
from
revenue
to
fund
to
expenditure-
and
I
think
it
highlights
too
that
you.
A
A
And
goals
our
responsibilities
to
constituents
and
also
the
you
know,
the
stated
goals
that
we.
A
Have
as
a
community
I
feel
like,
sometimes
our
spending
is
out
of
step
with.
You
know.
A
A
Budget
process
or
through
legislative
action,
we
could
designate
in
bloomington
municipal
code
that.
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
Significant
changes
include
category
one
where
our
personnel
request.
V
V
V
V
A
You
and
cfrd
staff
for
your
work.
Do
we
have
any
customer
questions
to
kick
us
off.
V
Oh
gosh,
I
think
it's
50
000,
but
I'm
sorry,
it's
a
50,
okay,
yeah,
50,
000
and.
V
Housing
security
network-
with
probably
more
than
that-
but
I
can
get
you
we
can
get
a
breakdown.
V
Of
that,
but
okay,
yeah
I'd,
appreciate
that
all
right
and
also
thank
you
for
in
the
documents.
K
And
are
you
able
to
share
which
non-profits.
V
D
Services
look
like
and
how
they'll
be
recommended
to
the
various
neighborhood
associations
and.
V
Doing
with
the
future
policing
task
force
we're
looking
at
programs
from
around
the
country
and.
V
V
Neighborhoods
to
come
up
with
those
programs,
so
things
like
neighborhood
watches,
you
know
kind.
D
Of
it
could
be
neighborhood
watch,
it
could
be
a
youth
by
you
know:
violence
prevention,
program.
V
L
Yes,
thank
you.
Miss
calendar
anderson,
so
the
250
000
from
the
parking
meter.
L
And
then
can
you
tell
us
more
about
the
new
position?
That's
proposed
the
program
specialist.
L
So
would
this
be
somebody
who
kind
of
specializes
on
helping
the
unhoused.
V
V
Involve
unhoused
or
or
those
in
risk
of
becoming
homeless
or
yeah,
and
will
that
be
at
the
same.
L
I
Councilmember
piedmont,
smith
asked
my
question.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
beverly.
I
M
Presentation
by
director
alex
crowley
that
funds
related
to
local
food
was
were
now.
M
V
V
V
There,
we'll
figure
it
out
and
what
it
will
be
used
for
is
working
on
food
insecurity.
There.
V
M
Enough
but
it
it's
important
work.
I
see
that
controller
underwood
is
there
so
he
can
verify
the.
M
Amount,
yes,
the
amounts
out
of
the
80
lit
is
46
500.,
so
close.
Okay,
and
will
that
be
used?
Sorry.
M
V
Some
folks
from
iu
already
and
and
started
to
sort
of
think
about
how
we're
going
to
put.
V
V
From
some
outside
sources,
you
know
it
could
be
any
number
of
projects-
okay.
Well,
it's
important.
M
A
We
have
a
member
of
the
public
at
the
podium.
Please
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
you.
A
R
R
R
The
losses
in
the
in
our
parking
garages
and
boy
are:
there
losses
the
forestry
garage.
R
Was
already
over
designed
by
size
or
oversized
by
design,
but
since
kovid
all
the
garages
are
way.
R
H
H
H
Seeing
no
takers
thank
you.
There
was
one
right
as
I
said,
that
r
miller,
I
will
ask
to
unmute.
W
W
From
director
how
that
might
affect
her
budget,
but
I
can
tell
you
that.
A
W
As
we
see
the
effects
and
needs
increase,
so
thank
you
and
sorry
for
the
mic
issues.
M
But
I've
been
passing
on
departmental
budgets,
although
I
support
many
because
their
work.
M
The
onset
of
the
budget
hearings,
that
is
for
non-union
employees,
reflected
in
the
base,
pay.
M
I
recognize
that
this
is
a
very
large
budget,
comparatively
we're
spending
it
on
a
lot.
M
Compensation
and
I'm
also
as
councilmember
people
smith
described
the
other
evening,.
M
M
M
A
E
E
A
Additional
council
member
comments,
I
just
wanted
to
briefly
note
that
I'll
be
voting.
A
No
tonight,
just
because
I
still
have
some
outstanding
questions
with
respect
to
the.
A
B
Pads
sims,
yes,
and
that
recommendation
passes
with
a
vote
of
five
one.
Three
thank.
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
And
bilingual
services
and
our
instagram,
if
you
follow
us
on
instagram,
which
I
hope
you
do.
X
Turning
some
focus
on
projects
that
we
are
undertaking
in
the
department,
I'll
start
with.
X
New
asphalt
overlay
on
the
loop
trail,
we
added
two
new
boardwalks
asphalt
connections
to
the.
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
These
slides
on
the
2022
budget
goal
updates.
As
you
receive
the
mid-year
report,
the
department.
X
X
In
the
sports
division,
business
is
really
good
out
at
the
golf
course.
They
had
a
goal
to
rent.
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
All
of
these
positions,
except
for
one,
the
the
four
person
and
the
three
labor
positions.
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
And
the
next
slide
we'll
split
that
out
by
category.
So
we
have,
let's
see
one
million.
X
X
M
Director
mcdevitt
for
your
presentation,
my
first
question
is
about
this
should
be
about.
M
M
M
Well,
you're
looking,
I
have
you've,
got
it:
okay,
yes,
so
this
dates
back.
Actually,
we've.
X
Dates
back
six
years
we've
been
studying
it
a
lot
longer,
but
in
2017
we
did
the
sharp
shooting.
X
X
X
From
that
site,
we
continue
to
monitor
the
the
regeneration
of
the
understory
plants
and
we.
X
Do
see
recovery
occurring
not
only
with
the
plants
but
also
some
tree
seedlings
coming
back.
M
And
I
wondered
it
looks
to
me
like,
at
least
in
certain
areas,
there's
a
legacy.
M
M
A
Council
members,
hamburg,
thank
you
and,
of
course,
your
presentations
are
always
visually
delightful.
D
So
thank
you
for
that.
It's
always
a
pleasure
to
save
the
the
interesting
photographs
for
our.
X
That's
that's
ongoing.
We
first
entered
into
a
security
contract
in
2021
and
that
was
sort
of.
X
X
X
X
X
Four
hours
they
there's
different
shifts
that
come
on,
but
we
do
have
a
presence
from.
X
X
X
Yes,
that's
I
can
get
you
the
exact
cost
in
the
budget,
happy
to
do
that.
Thanks.
G
Thank
you,
miss
mcdevitt
for
director
mcdevitt
for
doing
all
these
things
in
it
in
the
in
the.
G
Next
year,
or
so,
what's
going
on
as
far
as
a
new
initiative
that
we
need
to
know
about.
X
X
X
X
X
X
M
Maybe
thousands
in
the
community
and
it
you
know
it's
disheartening-
to
go
into
the
county.
M
M
M
M
M
Goat
farm-
I
don't
know
if
it
might
work
there.
I
mean,
I
suppose
you
know
it's
closer
to
people's.
M
M
I
think
maybe
we
should
be
thinking
about
devoting
more
resources
to
it.
I
mean
I,
I
saw.
M
M
So,
even
though
they
do
terrible,
you
know
they're
they're,
terrible
in
terms
of
their
invasive.
A
Any
additional
second
round
questions
or
sorry
councilmember
roland.
I
missed
you
on
the
first.
A
I
I
X
Let
me
make
sure
I
understand
your
question.
The
idea
for
the
park
or
the
idea
for
the
gateway.
X
Have
mou
with
them
now
and
we
have
divided
who's
responsible
for
what
areas
in
in
that
park.
X
So
that's
how
we
manage
maintenance
but
I'll,
be
able
to
I'd,
be
happy
to
get
you.
The
history.
I
X
I
A
A
A
R
R
R
R
I
was
actually
looking
forward
to
this
project
because
it
would
have
connected
the
cascades.
R
R
R
R
A
A
I
Or
perhaps
mr
underwood
can
speak
to
it.
I
see
him
having
come
on
I'll
speak
specifically.
O
Incorrect
and
it's
unfair
that
those
statements
can
be
made.
O
In
public,
without
any
refute
back,
I
I
find
it
disappointing
that
if
those
kind
of.
O
I
I
I
Of
oversight,
the
the
if
the
it's
one
thing
for
the
bond
council
to
approve
it.
But
you
know.
I
Did
council
get
a
chance
to
approve
that
change?
I
I
believe
deputy
mayor
is
still
there.
I
A
A
No,
would
it
be
appropriate
to
follow
up
in
writing
councilmember
roland,
I
think.
A
I
Why
was
the
scope
of
the
project
changed
and
you
know
why
was
that
not
brought
before.
I
I
Action
in
ordinance
to
make
sure
that
such
a
change
in
scope
of
such
a
significant
amount.
U
P
Nice,
if
council
member
volun,
if
you
do
have
a
question,
it
sounds
like
a
very.
O
Referenced
to
the
public
comments
that
were
made
so
okay,
I
apologize
if
you
felt
that.
O
Was
intended
towards
you,
it
was
not,
and
I
I
am
not
trying
to
I
mean
I'm
trying
to.
I
Ask
a
complicated
policy
question
here.
You
know
and
I
I
I
urge
my
colleagues
on
both.
I
The
council
and
the
administration
to
take
a
step
down
here.
It's
a
reasonable
policy
question.
I
A
The
question
and
follow
up
in
a
I
think,
narrow
and
targeted
way.
I
do
think
they're
relevant.
A
Policy
questions
one
was
with
respect
to
transportation
and
engineering
oversight.
A
I
I
think
mr
alexander
has
spoken
in
public
comment
before
with
respect
to
the
the
reroute.
A
Perhaps,
on
property
that
that
the
parks,
the
border
parks
commissioners
owns.
A
You
know,
may
not
be
public
right-of-way
or
maybe,
but
in
any
case
you
know
not.
A
Context
generally
sure,
the
examples
I
have
are
both
on
the
beeline
trail
during
the
construction.
X
A
A
Came
to
mind,
I
think
we're
we're
concluding
with
council
member
questions
event.
There
are.
A
Constantly
comments,
prior
to
considering
a
do
pass
recommendation.
Do
I
see
any
comments.
G
That
I
use
the
parks
a
lot
and
and
the
security's
done
wonders
so
I
appreciate
that.
G
G
G
Griffey
improvements,
it's
fabulously,
wonderful
out
there
and
the
parks
department
and-
and
you
and.
G
I
I
I
I
Run
by
the
parks
department,
but
the
question
is
when
it
comes
to
matters
of
transportation,.
I
Sufficiently
resolved,
I
think
the
the
heat
over
the
financial
matter
has
obscured
this
part.
I
And
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
highlight
here:
okay
trails
are
transportation
and
if
we're
making.
I
Decisions
about
them
that
are
purely
aesthetic
or
if
they
go
against
matters
that
are.
I
I
I
A
Councilman
morale,
I
just
want
to
say
I
appreciate
all
the
work
you
and.
M
And
the
ones
that
you
have
proposed
to
do.
I
also
am
very
impressed
that.
M
M
Land
that
we
that
we
oversee
and
that's
very
important,
I
think
it's
pretty
remarkable.
M
A
Other
council
member
comments
seeing
none,
I
will
follow
up
briefly.
I
I
do
think
the.
A
I
know
you
know,
mr
underwood
feels
there
were
some
allegations
that
were
unwarranted.
A
A
Expected
and
whatnot,
but
I
was
satisfied
at
the
end
of
that
sort
of
in-depth
dive
with
with
the.
A
The
approval
of
bond
council,
in
line
with
you
know,
with
with
legal
requirements
in
that
regard,.
A
A
Course
so,
even
if
you
know
approved
to
pursue
the
the
bond
that
mr
or
the
expenditures
that.
A
Griffey
dam
and
and
causeway
projects,
if,
if
we
thought
based
on
you,
know
the
public
meetings
and.
A
A
The
parks
related
projects
and
and
in
in
both
instances,
they've
sort
of
led
to
this
difficult.
A
Any
illegal
behavior
or
anything
like
that,
I
think
I
think
again.
I
was
satisfied.
A
And
and
what
what
we
should
be
hearing
when,
when,
when
things
depart
from
that
course,.
A
It
meaningfully
because
I
think
it's
a
valid
concern
that
mr
alexander
is
bringing
up
so.
A
I
appreciate
folks
folks
bearing
with
us
as
we
have
that
conversation.
That's
it
for
me
on
on.
A
A
comment
and
with
that,
unless
there
are
more,
we
are
ready
for
a
do
pass
recommendation
on.
A
Unless
I
miscounted,
I
think
I
think
that's
what
I
got
thank
you
and
thank
you
again,
director.
A
Mcdevitt
for
your
presentation
for
all
the
work
your
department
does
and
thanks
thanks.
Yes,.
A
Thanks
for
answering
your
questions
with
that,
our
presentations
for
the
evening
are
concluded.
A
Public
works
departments
and
we
have
no
more
business,
so
we
are
adjourned.
Thank
you.