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From YouTube: Bloomington City Council, August 9, 2023
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A
C
A
And
continuing
with
our
agenda
summation,
we
have
no
minutes
to
approve
this
evening,
so
we
will
move
it
directly
into
reports,
beginning
with
reports
from
Individual
council
members.
We
then
have
two
reports
from
the
mayor
and
city
offices.
The
first
is
the
greenhouse
gas
inventory
report
and
the
second
is
the
Environmental
commission
air
quality
report.
We'll
then
take
up
any
reports
from
Council
committees
and
then
come
to
our
first
of
two
periods
of
public
comment:
we'll
take
up
appointments
to
boards
and
commissions
and
then
move
into
legislation
for
second
readings
and
resolutions.
A
There
are
two
ordinances
there.
The
first
is
ordinance
2314
to
amend
title
VI
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code,
entitled
health
and
sanitation
regarding
updating
and
increasing
fees
for
service
and
harmonizing
chapters
four
and
five
of
title
VI
of
the
Bloomington
municipal
code.
Second,
there
is
ordinance
2315
to
amend
Title
II
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code,
entitled
Administration
and
Personnel
regarding
amending
2.76.040
entitled
boundaries
to
expand
the
service
area
of
the
Bloomington
Public
Transportation
Corporation,
we'll
then
move
into
legislation
for
first
readings.
A
We'll
then
come
to
our
second
of
two
periods
of
public
comment,
we'll
take
up
matters
of
council
schedule
and
then
we
will
adjourn
so
with
that.
We
have
no
minutes
to
approve
this
evening.
Let's
move
into
reports
from
Individual
council
members.
I
will
start
on
my
far
left
this
evening
with
council
member
voland
council
member
Smith.
Sorry,
no.
E
F
You
budget
hearings
start
in
a
few
short
weeks
on
August
28th
and
in
the
interest
of
making
appropriate
fiscal
decisions
I'm
making
the
following
requests
of
the
Hamilton
Administration
regarding
the
purchase
of
the
West
portion
of
the
showers
building
using
dollars
that
were
designated
for
police
and
fire.
The
decision
to
purchase
was
made
on
a
slim
one
vote
margin
by
this
Council
in
February.
F
The
residents
of
Bloomington
deserve
clear
answers
prior
to
budget
deliberations,
Public
Safety
and
how
we
spend
Public
Safety
funding
is
of
Paramount
concern
because
the
fiscal
decisions
we
make
this
year
will
have
implications
for
the
next
Administration.
It
is
critical
that
we,
the
duly
elected
representatives,
know
where
things
stand.
I
ask
the
following
questions
be
answered
in
a
thorough
report.
One,
the
current
3rd
Street
BPD
headquarters
is
twenty
thousand
square
feet.
How
many
square
feet
of
the
showers
West
Edition
are
presently
in
the
architectural
plans
for
police
functioning.
F
Two,
the
last
meeting
that
included
police
Personnel
social
workers,
Administration
and
officers,
was
June
1st
2023.
It
is
my
understanding
that
plans
have
been
changed
since
that
meeting
and
that
police
Personnel
are
no
longer
in
conversations
with
the
Architects
and
the
mayor.
If
that
is
the
case,
what
are
the
plans
for
keeping
the
police
Personnel
at
the
planning
table
three?
How
much
of
the
allocated
Public
Safety
money
has
been
spent
for
police
and
fire
to
date?
F
What
are
the
projections
at
this
point
for
staying
within
the
budget
for
retrofitting
showers,
to
the
Professional,
Standards
and
appropriate
purposes
for
police
and
fire?
Four?
Are
there
other
City
Hall
administrative
functions
and
offices
being
planned
for
that
will
take
up
square
footage
in
the
newly
acquired
showers?
Edition
five
are
there?
There
are
two
phases
required
in
retrofitting
this
building
the
planning
design
phase
and
then
bidding
for
the
construction.
What
are
reasonable
time
frames
for
adequate
planning
that
must
come
first
before
estimates
can
be
made
as
to
how
much
the
actual
construction
will
cost.
F
Is
it
reasonable
that
planning
can
be
satisfactorily
completed
before
the
end
of
the
year,
or
does
prudence
require
more
time
in
making
fiscally
responsible
decisions?
Six?
What
are
the
Architects
saying
about
cost
estimates
at
this
planning
phase?
I
am
told
that
the
city
of
Frankfurt
has
recently
been
able
to
build
a
new
twenty
eight
thousand
square
foot
secure
police
station
for
10
million.
Where
do
we
stand
with
the
cost
projections
to
adequately
retrofit
this
historic
building
for
Public
Safety
purposes?
F
7.?
What
are
the
plans
for
the
current
Third
Street
headquarters?
What
is
the
assessed
value
and
what,
if
any,
negotiations
are
taking
place
regarding
its
sale
and
use?
Should
this
sale
be
fast
tracked
before
adequate
cost
estimates
at
showers
are
known
and
transparently
shared
eight?
What
is
the
status
for
lease
for
leasing?
Portions
of
the
newly
acquired
shower
space,
our
office
rentals
required
to
make
the
fiscal
plan
work
and,
if
so,
what
does
that
do
for
the
square
footage
intended
for
police
and
fire
nine?
F
With
the
announcement
of
a
boutique
hotel,
possibly
being
built
in
the
trades
District,
what
does
this
do
in
limiting
parking
availability
for
police
vehicles
and
10,
and
this
is
probably
the
most
important
question
of
all
how
much
fiscal
and
planning
information
is
being
shared
with
Carrie
Thompson?
What
transparency
and
process
do
we
owe
the
public
about
a
smooth
transition
during
the
change
in
leadership?
F
I
would
urge
my
colleagues
to
join
me
in
asking
for
a
moratorium
in
showers,
planning
and
construction
until
such
time
as
a
new
Administration
can
absorb
the
responsibility
of
city
planning
for
all
administrative
functions,
including
good
stewardship
of
your
Public
Safety
tax
Investments
I've
shared
a
copy
of
these
questions
with
Stephen
Lucas
to
share
with
the
mayor's
office.
Thank
you.
D
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everybody
that
my
monthly
constituent
meeting
is
this
coming
Saturday
at
11
A.M.
It
will
be
a
hybrid
meeting
with
in-person
part
of
it
in
the
McCloskey
room,
room
135
of
City
Hall,
and
you
can
also
join
via
zoom
and
that
link
will
be
available
or
is
available
on
the
council
website.
D
A
J
J
We
have
Stephanie
Hayes
Richards,
who
is
the
managing
principal
for
Gnarly
tree
sustainability
Institute,
and
we
also
have
Emily
Giovanni,
who
is
the
principal
consultant
for
Gnarly
tree
sustainability
Institute,
who
is
joining
us
virtually?
We
are
here
tonight
to
provide
a
summary
of
the
city
of
bloomington's
greenhouse
gas
emissions
inventory
from
2008
to
2022..
J
J
Different
greenhouse
gases
have
different
effects
on
the
Earth's
warming.
Two
key
ways
in
which
these
gases
differ
from
each
other
are
their
ability
to
absorb
energy
and
how
long
they
stay
in
the
atmosphere
also
known
as
their
lifetime.
This
is
known
as
global
warming
potential,
which
allows
comparisons
of
the
global
warming
impacts
of
different
gases.
J
Specifically,
a
global
warming
potential
is
a
measure
of
how
much
energy
the
emissions
of
one
ton
of
gas
will
absorb
over
a
given
period
of
time
relative
to
the
emissions
of
one
ton
of
carbon
dioxide
or
CO2
the
larger
the
global
warming
potential.
The
more
that
a
gas,
a
given
gas
warms
the
Earth
compared
to
CO2
over
that
time
period.
J
Co2E,
which
is
carbon
dioxide
equivalent,
is
a
metric
measure
that
is
used
to
compare
emissions
from
various
greenhouse
gases
on
the
basis
of
their
global
warming
potential
by
converting
amounts
of
other
gases
to
the
equivalent
amount
of
CO2,
for
example,
on
a
100
Year
time
scale.
Methane
has
28
times
greater
global
warming
potential
than
carbon
dioxide
and
is
84
times
more
potent
on
a
20-year
time
scale.
J
We
are
experiencing
impacts
of
greenhouse
gases
right
here
in
Bloomington,
with
more
frequent
and
intense
flooding.
I
believe
we
can
all
remember
what
happened
on
Kirkwood
in
2021.
Poor
air
quality
here
is
a
picture
of
our
Courthouse.
This
summer
is
showing
the
Wildfire
smoke
from
the
Canadian
forest
fires.
J
J
So
this
brings
us
to
our
greenhouse
gas
inventory
report.
We
use
standardized
methods
and
protocols
to
calculate
quantify
and
assess
our
community
Associated
emissions
and
their
sources.
In
other
words,
we
quantify
the
amount
of
heat
trapping
gases
released
by
human
sources
within
a
defined
boundary
over
the
course
of
a
year.
J
Greenhouse
gas
inventories
are
important
because
they
allow
us
to
identify
opportunities
for
greenhouse
gas
reductions.
They
help
us
measure,
progress
towards
local
state,
federal
and
international
climate
goals.
Inventories
also
enable
us
to
aggregate
greenhouse
gas
emissions
data
across
regions.
This
is
a
goal
of
project
46,
which
is
the
regional
climate
collaborative
between
Bloomington,
Nashville
and
Columbus.
J
K
in
2020.
Our
company
was
asked
to
do
a
back
cast
of
ghd
admissions
from
2008
to
2018,
to
make
sure
that
the
inventories
were
using
consistent
methodologies
for
each
year.
At
the
same
time,
we
also
estimated
emissions
for
2005
and
2007
since
a
lot
of
the
goals
for
ghg
emissions
reduction
are
expressed
in
terms
of
2005
levels
and
then
just
earlier
this
year
our
team
was
asked
to
do
a
an
inventory
for
2019-2022
to
make
sure
that
the
same
methodologies
were
being
used
for
all
years
involved.
K
Let's
take
it,
take
a
look
at
the
ghg
admissions
for
the
city
of
Bloomington.
So,
as
you
can
see,
total
emissions
of
dhg
gases
has
been
a
bit
varied
over
the
last
15
years.
The
good
news
is
that
ghgn
missions
in
Bloomington
have
been
decreasing
over
time.
Specifically,
there
has
been
a
16
decrease
in
GHC
emissions
between
2008
and
2022..
K
So
resident
as
you
can
see
here,
residential
energy
is
the
the
largest
source
of
emissions
within
the
city
of
Bloomington.
That's
a
little
bit
different
than
other
cities,
so
residential
energy
accounts
for
almost
27
percent
of
total
emissions.
Commercial
Energy
makes
up
about
18
percent
of
emissions
and
transportation
accounts
for
about
16
percent
of
total
emissions.
K
K
So
you're
going
to
see
here
a
very
surprising
result
in
the
most
recent
census
data.
So
if
you
look
here
under
the
2020
census,
the
population
of
of
Bloomington
actually
decreased
by
about
10
000
on
paper
in
2020.
I'm
sure
we
can.
We
can
all
understand.
We
didn't
have
a
mass
Exodus
of
you
know:
12
10,
000
people
in
2020.
K
The
survey
was
that
that
students
should
count
themselves
where
they
live
and
sleep
most
of
the
time,
and
so
that
was
actually
creating
some
some
more
less
ambiguity
around
how
students
should
count,
but
at
the
same
time
students
were
staying
at
in
their
hometowns
with
their
a
lot
of
students
were
saying
it
in
their
hometowns,
but
their
parents,
and
so
they
listed
that
address
as
where
they
live.
And
so
what
happened
is
they
got
counted
in
their
hometown's
census
rather
than
that
of
bloomington's?
K
And
so
this
this
created
some
some
anomaly
with
the
data,
but
to
make
sure
we
could
ensure
that
the
ghg
emissions
inventories
were
consistent
across
the
years
of
analysis.
We
had
to
make
some
assumptions
about
population
growth
here.
So
if
you
look
at
this
line
chart
you
can
see.
The
yellow
line
represents
like
if
we
had
assumed
that
the
population
had
stayed
the
same
between
2019
and
2022.
K
So
if
you
see
here
you
can
you
can
see
with
the
the
green
line
graph
there.
That's
what
we
assume
that
the
population
growth
was
in
Bloomington
during
the
time
period,
and
you
can
also
see
that
the
population
projections
from
Monroe
County
that
follow
that
same
trajectory
now
supporting
this
conclusion
was
I
human.
You
can
see
IU
enrollment
actual
numbers
here
in
the
red
line
chart
you
can
see
that
those
enrollment
numbers
continue
to
increase
in
21
and
22,
which
supports
the
assumptions
we
made
about
population
growth
in
the
city
of
in
Bloomington.
K
So
the
next
thing
I'm
going
to
do
is
get
into
the
admissions
estimates
in
just
a
little
more
detail.
What
we
have
done
for
to
simplify
things
is
we
broke
emissions
out
into
three
different
categories:
stationary
energy
usage,
transportation
and
waste
and
utilities.
As
you
can
see,
stationary
energy
is
by
far
the
largest
contributor
to
ghg
emissions.
K
So
it's
important
to
keep
in
mind
what's
driving
emissions
reductions,
and
this
provides
some
more
insights
into
that.
So,
within
the
electricity
category,
admissions
are
based
on
two
main
variables:
the
amount
of
electricity
consumption
and
the
quantity
quantity
of
emissions
per
kilowatt
hour
associated
with
electricity
usage.
So,
as
you
can
see
here,
electricity
consumption
actually
increased
by
eight
percent,
but
at
the
same
time
the
grid
was
the
Grid.
Electricity
was
becoming
cleaner,
so
it
reduced
emissions
from
electricity
consumption
by
32
percent.
K
K
K
So
this
shows
this
graph
shows
that
the
drivers
of
admissions
for
on-road
commercial
vehicles,
as
you
can
see
here,
what
was
happening,
is
the
fuel
efficiencies
of
the
vehicles
that
were
being
used
actually
improved.
So
while
emissions
per
mile
driven
decreased
by
11
and
total
emissions
at
increase,
because
the
number
of
miles
driven
had
increased
by
19
percent
and
then
finally
we'll
take
a
look
at
Solid,
Waste,
Water
and
Wastewater,
that
includes
landfills
and
other
waste,
as
well
as
City
Utilities
associated
with
water
supply
and
wastewater
treatment.
K
As
you
can
see
here,
the
emissions
within
the
sector
increased
by
eight
percent
between
2008
and
2022
and
methane.
Emissions
from
landfills
constitute
the
highest
share
of
emissions
associated
in
this
sector,
and
the
increase
in
the
sector
are
driven
by
increases
by
population
and
increasing
waste
volumes,
and
so
we'll
just
stop
here
for
a
second
and
take
a
final
look
at
Bloomington
ghg
admissions
broken
up
by
sector.
K
This
basically
shows
what
we
the
same
information
we
started
with.
At
the
same
time,
I
wanted
to
know,
while
this
inventory
used
standardized
protocols
and
methodologies,
it's
important
to
know
whenever
you're
doing
a
dhg
emissions
inventory,
there's
a
lot
of
uncertainty
and
a
lot
of
assumptions
that
have
to
be
made
to
get
to
this
result.
So
we
need
to.
While
this
is
useful
information,
we
have
to
make
sure
we
exercise
some
caution
in
making
our
interpretations
of
the
data,
so,
let's
get
to
the
heart
of
it.
K
So
one
of
the
questions
you
probably
have
on
your
mind
now
is
is
Bloomington
on
track
to
meet
its
goals
for
ghd
emissions
reductions.
The
short
answer
is
yes,
we
think
so.
So
if
you
look
here
what
we
have
is
we
have
put
on
this
line
graph,
the
Paris,
the
Paris
goals
that
are
embedded
in
the
mayor's
National
Climate
Change
agenda,
which
require
which
commit
to
a
17
emission
reduction
below
2005
Levels
by
2020
and
a
26
to
28
percent
reduction
by
2025
relative
to
2005
admissions
levels.
K
So,
even
though
emissions
have
been
quite
variable
over
the
years,
we
have
seen
a
clear
downward
Trend
over
over
the
last
15
years
and
if
we
fit
a
trend
line
here
that
reflects
the
the
Back
cast
inventory
that
we've
done
and
and
carry
it
forward
to
2030..
It
shows
that
overall,
the
city
is
on
track
to
meet
its
goals.
So
this
is
promising
news.
K
But
it's
important
to
keep
in
mind
that
reaching
this
goal
is
is
not
certain
and
it
requires
the
collaboration
of
of
government
resonance
businesses
and
non-profits,
and
so
you
probably
recall
from
a
previous
slide
that
buildings
and
transportation
account
for
92
percent
of
emissions
in
Bloomington.
There
are
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
reduce
emissions
from
building
and
transportation,
and
we
know
there's
a
lot
of
funding
out
there
under
the
inflation
reduction
act,
to
take
advantage
of
subsidies
for
improving
Energy,
Efficiency
and
reducing
operating
costs.
K
L
Little
bit,
I
will
do
my
best.
Thank
you
yep.
So
thank
you,
Stephanie
for
providing
all
that
information
and,
of
course,
for
an
early
trees,
continued
support
and
contributions
to
the
city's
sustainability
work
in
reflection
of
our
admissions
progress.
So
far,
we
wanted
to
conclude
the
presentation
by
highlighting
the
things
we've
accomplished,
both
in
ESD
and
Citywide,
to
reduce
our
footprint
since
the
last
greenhouse
gas
inventory.
L
For
those
that
may
recall.
Prior
to
our
2018
presentation,
the
city
had
passed
the
2018
sustainability
action
plan.
Esd
staff
had
worked
with
Harley
tree
to
develop
a
five-year
framework
for
bloomington's
sustainability
strategy
that
identified
both
short-term
and
long-term
goals
within
City
operations
and
the
broader
community
I'm
going
to
skip
forward
a
little
bit
on
time.
L
In
order
to
further
build
on
the
recommendations
laid
out
in
the
sustainability
plan,
the
city
began
working
with
pale
blue
dot
in
2020
to
develop
the
city's
first
official
climate
action
plan.
That
plan
would
take
the
recommendations
identified
in
the
sustainability
action
plan
of
2018
and
provide
a
comprehensive
roadmap
of
strategies
for
implementing
them.
Most
importantly,
that
would
also
set
the
city's
official
emissions
reduction
targets
as
a
25
reduction
of
emissions
by
2030,
with
2018
as
the
Baseline
and
the
goal
of
being
carbon
neutral
by
2050
that
cap
passed
unanimously
on
April
21st
2021.
L
It
was
estimated
that
the
cap
implementation
of
all
the
strategies
would
result
in
benefits
of
upwards
of
461
million
dollars
in
cumulative
community-wide
savings
potential.
However,
that
would,
of
course,
not
be
achievable
without
Financial
commitment
to
its
implementation.
So
perhaps
one
of
the
most
impactful
strides
that's
been
made
since
2018
is
establishing
a
commitment
source
of
funding
for
sustainability,
so
in
2022
the
passing
of
the
economic
development,
local
income
tax
ensured
that
we
had
1.6
million
dollars
dedicated
annually
to
implementing
the
climate
action
plan.
L
With
that
funding,
we've
been
able
to
extend
and
expand
existing
projects,
launch
new
programs
and
invest
substantially
back
into
the
community
to
highlight
just
a
few
of
them.
The
Bloomington
Green
Home
Improvement
program
was
launched
in
2021
and
provides
low
interest
loans
and
bought
down
rates
for
homeowners
looking
to
invest
in
solar
and
Energy
Efficiency,
as
well
as
provides
thousand
dollar
rebates
for
qualifying
homeowners.
Since
its
launch
in
2021,
the
programs
provided
over
twenty
thousand
dollars
in
rebates
alone
to
Bloomington
homeowners
compost
up
downtown,
which
I
understand
Council
heard
about
in
great
detail.
L
Last
week
was
a
program
piloted
in
2022
that
provided
three
free
months
of
composting
back
of
house
training
and
a
comprehensive
waste
audit
to
16
local
Bloomington
restaurants.
To
encourage
the
practice
of
composting
food
waste.
The
program
has
helped
divert
81
000
pounds
of
organic
waste
from
landfill,
which,
as
Stephanie
recognized,
is
a
huge
source
of
methane
emissions
in
the
community
I'm
going
to
skip
the
long
descriptions,
but
seal
is
one
of
our
longest
running
and
most
successful
programs
at
the
city,
which
stands
for
Solar,
Energy,
Efficiency
and
Lighting
in
total.
L
Thus
far,
the
program
has
provided
over
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
more
than
25
local
businesses
and
non-profits
supporting
22
Energy
Efficiency
projects
and
15
solar
projects
by
the
end
of
2023.
The
program
expects
to
support
at
least
15,
more
projects
of
which
10
are
committed
to
solar
installations.
Funding
a
huge
expansion
of
renewable
energy
in
the
community
and
zero
and
Bloomington
was
launched
in
2022
as
the
city's
climate
action
platform
and
targets,
residents
and
households.
The
platform
less
residents
register
their
households
calculate
carbon
Footprints
and
complete
various
actions
to
reduce
their
impact.
L
We
really
only
have
time
to
scratch
the
surface
on
the
work,
that's
being
done
every
day
to
reduce
our
emissions,
but
we're
very
proud
to
highlight
what
we
have
managed
to
accomplish.
Thus
far.
We
recognize
that
the
city
has
a
huge
role
to
play
in
supporting
a
transition
to
a
low-carbon
economy
and
certainly
hold
ourselves
accountable
to
upholding
the
commitments
laid
out
in
the
climate
action
plan,
but
we
also
recognize
the
powerful
role
of
residential
involvement
and
engagement
with
climate
action.
L
So
I
want
to
conclude
by
highlighting
some
resources
for
residents
who
would
like
to
be
a
part
of
the
efforts.
The
Bloomington
Commission
on
sustainability
and
the
environmental
commission
are
both
resident-led
groups
that
seek
to
support
the
planning
and
implementation
of
sustainability
efforts
across
the
city
to
check
for
open
seats.
Interested
residents
should
visit
the
links
on
the
screen.
Otherwise,
all
meetings
are
open
to
the
public
for
comment
and
attendance.
We
also
want
to
take
the
time
to
announce
an
exciting
future
Endeavor,
which
is
the
launch
of
a
new
climate
action
dashboard.
L
The
dashboard
will
highlight
the
city's
progress
on
our
goals
on
a
consistently
updated
basis,
allowing
for
more
transparent
and
interactive
engagement
with
the
city's
climate
action
plan
and
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
We're
working
to
get
the
dashboard
put
together
and
anticipate
a
launch
in
2024.,
as
noted
on
many
slides
throughout
the
presentation.
We
also
have
a
city
site
for
all
things:
sustainability
that
highlight
our
Department's
work,
as
well
as
community-wide
resources
for
residents
at
bloomington.in.gov,
sustainability.
L
Finally,
perhaps
the
most
important
step
residents
can
take
is
to
better
understand
their
personal
carbon
footprint,
how
they
can
reduce
their
impact
and
what
resources
are
available
to
support
that
and
when
I
again
mentioned
zero
in
as
a
resource
where
residents
can
calculate
their
carbon
footprint
and
have
access
to
over
100
action
items
and
resources.
We
understand
that
these
things
certainly
take
an
investment,
so
we
also
want
to
highlight
a
handful
of
resources.
L
In
addition
to
programs
previously
mentioned,
there
are
a
number
of
local
state,
federal
and
utility
Financial
incentives
available
to
individuals
that
can
help
reduce
the
financial
burden
of
investing
in
Energy,
Efficiency
or
clean
energy.
All
of
these
resources
and
more
can
be
found
on
our
aforementioned
City
website,
under
residential
rebates
and
financing,
and
with
that
I'll
pass
things
back
over
to
Sean.
To
conclude,
is.
J
If
we
want
to
make
a
large-scale
greenhouse
gas
reduction
in
our
city,
we
need
to
transition
our
city
fleet
to
electric
vehicles,
which
would
be
four
million
dollars
that
would
require
160
EV
charging
stations
would
be,
which
would
be
another
three
million
dollars.
We're
looking
into
Energy
Efficiency
projects
and
decarbonization
of
our
municipal
buildings,
which
would
also
cause
would
cost
a
lot
of
money,
so
we're
looking
into
grants
for
those
and
possibly
looking
into
municipal
bonds
for
those
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
H
M
Or
yes,
I
am
increasingly
frustrated
by
the
fact
that
there
has
that
this
presentation
example,
like
previous
ones,
was
not
given
a
time
limit
based
on
our
constraints
and
that
we've
been
consistently
extending
the
period
for
reports
without
regard
to
the
rest
of
the
agenda
or
the
Public's
time.
So
I'd
like
to
talk
about
that
later,
but
for
now
they
we're
barely
able
to
scratch
the
surface
here.
If
they
needed
more
time,
we
should
have
known
that
beforehand,
so
I.
M
That's
why
I
made
the
motion
I'd
like
to
ask
some
questions,
while
their
presentation
is
still
fresh,
I'm,
sorry
that
they
weren't
informed
that
we
have
a
time
limit,
so
they
could
tailor
their
presentation
to
us,
but
I
I
really
hope
that
leadership
earnestly
takes
us
into
account
that
this
is
an
oversight.
That
is
very
frustrating.
Thank
you.
A
I
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
I'll
vote,
knowing
the
motion
that,
just
because
Mr
kaldi
is
here
with
us
in
the
audience
as
well
intending
to
get
the
report
tonight.
I
share
some
accounts
on
my
Roland's
points
and
frustrations
that
maybe
we
need
to
be
very
careful
about
the
number
of
reports
we're
scheduling
in
a
given
evening,
but
I'm
happy
to
follow
up
with
questions
in
writing
and
even
report
back
on
them
here.
But
on
balance
due
to
the
expectations
of
folks
here
to
see
us
I'd
rather
proceed
with
both
reports.
M
I
appreciate
Mr
Flaherty's
concern,
but
part
of
the
reason
for
a
presentation
like
this
is
to
get
raise
the
Public's
awareness.
If
we
ask
questions
in
writing,
it's
going
to
raise
less
awareness
than
if
we
ask
it
in
person
again,
the
presentation
is
fresh
and
it's
no
fault
of
the
presenters
either
the
ones
who
have
presented
the
ones
who
haven't.
But
it's
about
time
that
the
council
took
responsibility
for
time
limits.
D
M
F
I
I
will
vote
no,
because
the
report
is
here
they
are
in
Chambers.
They
have
been
planning
for
this
and
I
think
we
owe
it
to
them
to
hear
their
report
as
well.
So
I
would
be
willing
to
extend
the
time
for
this.
I
know
that
next
week's
agenda
is
equally
tough.
Having
been
in
leadership,
it
is
tough
to
plan
for
these
things
and
which
the
presentation
had
been
shorter,
but
it
isn't
and
I
want
to
hear
the
second
one
this
evening.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you
to
share
the
concerns
of
councilman,
Roland
and
council
member
Flaherty.
I.
Guess
I
just
disagree
with
trying
to
solve
what
is
a
proceed
to
be
a
Time
problem
this
evening.
I
think
that's
something!
That's
better
done
out
of
council
session
with
our
Council
leadership
staff,
who
does
the
scheduling
in
the
first
place
so
I
think
that
is
warranted
of
discussion,
just
not
so
sure
it's
here
or
now.
Thank
you.
A
M
O
E
M
M
This
is
all
entirely
within
the
council's
control.
The
council
is
consistently
ignored
it
and
ignored
the
amount
of
time
that
the
public
spends
on
reports,
let
alone
on
the
meeting
as
a
whole.
This
has
been
happening
for
the
past
four
meetings.
Now
that
we've
blown
past
for
20
minutes
limit,
can
we
extend
by
more
than
20
minutes
so
that
we
can
ask
questions?
I
mean
if
we're
going
to
take
as
much
time
as
we
care
to
let's
at
least
ask
questions
publicly
I'm
tired
of
this?
Thank
you.
I
I'll
just
note
that
we
normally
set
aside
20
minutes
for
the
whole
of
the
reports
section,
which
includes
council
members,
mayoral
Council
committees
in
public.
So
therefore,
with
one
report
remaining
I
thought:
20
minutes
was
already
sort
of
an
extension
and
adequate
I.
Take
Mr
Roland's
points,
I
think
I
think
he's
not
wrong.
I.
Just
don't
think
again
that
it's
maybe
something
we
solve
right
now
that
this
is
a
reasonable
balance
on
board.
A
M
Mr
Flaherty
is
incorrect.
We
have
allotted
20
minutes
just
for
public
comment
alone,
not
20
minutes
for
the
entire
meeting.
That's
been
my
consistent
understanding
of
the
agenda
all
this
time.
If
I've
been
wrong
about
that,
then
I've
been
wrong
about
a
lot
of
things
too
and
I'm
not
putting
that
possibility
aside,
but
we
have
traditionally
given
20
minutes
to
the
mayor
and
city
offices,
20
minutes
to
council
committees,
or
what
have
you
20
minutes
to
do
public
comment
at
the
first
half
of
the
meeting.
Thank
you.
A
A
M
A
quick
question
about
the
data
which
I
was
very
happy
to
see
presented
about
the
student
population
in
the
census
and
what
I
wanted
to
know
was
in
the
slide
that
I'm
sorry
I
forget
your
name,
but
in
the
slide,
where
you
presented
the
2821
and
2022
population
of
IU,
those
figures
have
gone
up
significantly.
Did
you
take
the
stat
the
the
data
point?
That
was
all
students
at
the
Bloomington
campus
or
students
who
are
physically
present
and
not
wholly
online,
because
there
are
two
stats
that
IU
tracks
separately
in
their
reporting.
M
J
A
G
N
G
Standardization
I
realize
we're
comparing
this
to
a
lot
of
cities
around
the
country
or
world
I
support
the
metrics
and
so
forth,
but
somewhere
out
there
there's
there
is
an
African
amount
of
CO2
and
we're
not
accounting
for
a
lot
of
it
right.
In
fact,
it
would
be
very
complicated
to
account
for
a
lot
of
it.
G
It
might
even
require
artificial
intelligence
to
account
for
it,
but
so,
for
instance,
but
it's
important
to
me
because
we
have
a
lot
of
imports
to
the
community
and
all
those
have
energy
use,
energy,
embodied
energy
and
so
forth.
That
comes
completely
is
left
out
of
any
idea
of
the
of
how
much
carbon
emissions
we
produce,
but
if
we
were
to
say,
replace
a
significant
portion
of
our
food
diet
with
local
Imports,
organically
grown
so
forth.
That
would
cut
emissions
tremendously
from
at
least
that
sector.
G
K
So
the
inventory
that
we
did
only
accounts
for
scope,
one
and
scope
two
and
that's
to
direct
emissions
associated
with
the
building
operation
and
the
electricity
that's
generated
by
the
utilities.
It
doesn't
include
scope,
3
emissions
which
I
believe
you're
talking
about
which
would
be
the
CO2
emissions
embedded
in
the
things
that
we
purchase,
and
that
would
be
a
bit
of
a
different
exercise,
but
I
mean
it's
I
I
recognize
your
points
valid.
It's
just
that's.
G
K
G
K
G
K
M
Say
that
that
figure
has
diverged
since
2013
when
IU
started
reporting
people
who
were
fully
online
and
the
number
has
been
diverging
every
year.
That
figure
is
now
four
to
five
thousand
students
out
of
forty,
eight
thousand
or
so
who
are
registered.
Would
urge
you
very
strongly
to
look
for
that
particular
statistic,
because
we
wanted
to
reflect
the
people
who
are
physically
here
for
a
ghd
report,
so
I
would
urge
you
to
at
least
check
that
and
issue
some
kind
of
Amendment
to
the
report.
M
K
It
was
a
city
of
Bloomington,
and
so-
and
there
are
certain
instances
like
the
airport
is-
is
located
in
outside
the
city
limits,
but
it's
used
by
the
city
of
Bloomington
residents,
and
so
what
we
did
is
we
estimated
estimated
a
number
of
emissions.
We
believed
that
were
attributable
to
the
city
of
Bloomington
residents,
so
there
were
some
some
projections
made
on
that,
but
it's
it's
for
the
city
of
Bloomington,
only
not
Monroe
County.
A
B
Q
All
right,
thank
you
to
the
council
for
making
time
for
this
report.
I
can
keep
it
very
brief.
I
wasn't
really
planning
for
more
than
10
minutes
anyway
and
was
hoping
to
have
time
for
questions.
I
just
want
to
start
by
saying
the
full
report
can
be
found
at
bloomington.in.gov
boards,
slash
environment,
slash
reports.
Q
To
introduce
the
topic,
air
pollution
causes
harm
to
People's
Health
and
to
the
environment,
even
without
visible
pollutants
such
as
were
very
evident
in
early
to
mid-july.
Given
the
Canadian
Wildfire
smoke,
even
when
it's
invisible,
even
a
very
low
levels,
it
can
cause
harm
to
to
humans,
particularly
the
most
vulnerable
populations
that
would
include
the
elderly,
children
and
people
with
pre-existing
conditions,
either
heart
or
lung
conditions,
or
at
the
greatest
risk.
Q
This
slide
is
a
little
bit
dense,
but
I
just
wanted
to
identify
the
EPA
standards
in
micrograms
per
cubic
meter
of
air
for
particulate
matter
or
fine
particulate
matter.
Pm
2.5
pollution,
the
in
2021,
the
World
Health
Organization
in
light
of
lots
of
new
evidence
and
lots
of
new
methods,
decided
that
they
believe
the
standards
should
be
lower
and
I
wanted
to
reflect
that
here,
showing
primary
APM
2.5
being
reduced
from
12
to
5
for
the
yearly
for
the
annual
and
from
35
to
15
for
any
24-hour
period.
Q
I,
don't
want
to
go
into
too
much
detail
on
the
numbers
here
for
time's
sake.
Monitoring
in
Bloomington
is
being
done
for
two
different
ambient
air
pollutants.
One
is
the
PM
pollution
or
the
particulate
matter,
pollution
which
is
being
gathered
at
Binford
Elementary.
The
data
continuous
data
for
a
very
long
span
of
time,
they've
asked
to
be
excluded
due
to
poor
measurement.
They've,
replaced
the
monitor
at
that
site
twice
most
recently,
I
believe
just
last
year,
but
using
the
intermittent
data
for
for
recent
years.
Q
It
shows
we're
well
within
the
epa's
national
ambient
air
quality
standards
in
for
both
daily
and
for
annual
particular
matter
pollution.
Ozone
is
monitored
in
nearby
helmsburg,
which
is
in
Brown
County,
technically
in
Indies
Metropolitan
statistical
area
instead
of
ours,
but
since
it
is
downwind,
it
is
considered
a
good
representative
measure
of
ozone,
more
so
than
the
plumber
location
in
Greene
County,
which
was
what
was
used
prior
to
2020..
Q
But
again,
our
numbers
are
are
within
the
EPA
standards
on
in
terms
of
ozone
as
well.
I
put.
This
I
took
this
from
the
EPA
website
right
around
the
beginning
of
August,
just
to
show
how
this
year,
mostly
due
to
the
Canada
wildfires,
we've
seen
a
lot
more
air
pollution
than
we're
accustomed
to.
This
is
fine
particulate
once
again,
PM
2.5.
Q
Climate
impacts,
air
pollution
in
a
number
of
ways,
two
of
the
most
obvious
moving
forward
are
going
to
be
wildfires
because
the
seasons
seem
to
be
getting
longer
and
more
intense
for
wildfires,
Nationwide
and
worldwide
as
well.
The
smoke
contains
thousands
of
individual
compounds.
It
varies
based
on
what
has
burned
how
hot
the
fire
has
been
and
how
far
the
smoke
has
traveled
since
the
source
to
determine
what
would
actually
be
in
the
Smoke
in
any
given
area.
But
regardless
immense
amounts
of
fine
particulate
is
is
going
to
be
included.
Q
It's
obviously
more
than
just
our
local
pollutants,
causing
it
in
2020
we
saw
spikes,
we
saw
our
sky
turn
kind
of
yellow
from
the
California
wildfires
and
I
saw
an
air
quality
index
as
high
as
271,
which
is
very
unhealthy.
It
was
top
five
in
the
world
on
July
12th
according
to
airnow.gov,
something
that's
out
of
our
controls,
because
air
pollutants,
no
no
physical
boundaries.
Q
They,
depending
on
the
makeup
of
the
coal
or
whatever
fuel,
is
being
used.
There
are
again
thousands
of
compounds
that
are
being
being
emitted,
including
heavy
metals
and
pollutant
gases,
and
again
lots
of
particulate
matter.
Health
risks
are
compounded
when
extreme
heat
and
smoke
or
PM
pollution
combine
a
study
in
California
found
that
on
days
that
are
very
hot
and
have
bad
air
pollution
that
mortality
risk
increases
36
percent.
Q
Basically,
what
can
we
do?
I
wanted
to
stress
that
as
a
city
from
a
policy
standpoint,
at
least
any
action
done
to
accelerate
our
efforts
to
reduce
Reliance
on
fossil
fuels
is
sort
of
a
policy
win-win
utilization
of
renewable
energy
sources,
along
with
efforts
to
decarbonized
Transportation,
would
have
a
significant
significant
impact
on
both
climate
change
and
air
quality
since
they're
so
interconnected.
These
policies,
policies
that
reduce
dependence
on
fossil
fuels
can
simultaneously
combat
climate
change
and
enable
people
to
live
longer
and
healthier
lives.
Q
There
are
a
lot
of
different
pollutants
we
could
measure,
but
even
just
just
fine
particulate,
a
network
of
low-cost
sensors
could
go
a
long
way
to.
Let
us
know
what
the
spatial
distribution
excuse
me
of,
of
air
pollutants
within
the
city
are,
and
I
hope
that
there
is
political
will
to
look
into
this
in
the
future.
Q
This
isn't
really
covered
in
the
report.
This
is
from
the
EPA
quality
assurance
process.
Essentially,
when
you
set
up
a
network,
you
determine
what
it
is
you're.
Looking
for
what
question
you're
trying
to
answer?
This
can
be
done
in
various
scales
or
different
scope,
whether
it's
wanting
to
see
how
air
pollution
Compares
on
one
side
of
a
busy
street
to
another
versus
how,
in
the
summer
versus
the
winter
you
can.
Q
You
can
set
things
up
all
different
ways,
depending
on
what
you're
trying
to
measure
a
lot
of
planning
setup
data
collection,
including
data
management
systems,
to
track
the
data
decisions
need
to
be
made
about
how
to
make
it
available.
Whether
residents
can
check
it
instantly
and
then
how
you
want
to
adjust
the
network
as
well,
depending
on
again
what
it
is
you're
trying
to
achieve
with
that
I
was
hoping.
There
was
time
for
discussion.
Thank
you
again
for
making
time
for
this
presentation
today.
Thank.
D
Q
Correct
the
World
Health
Organization
is
recommending
considerably
lower
levels
than
not
just
the
EPA,
but
virtually
any
any
countries
standards.
They
believe
that,
in
light
of
new
new
measurements,
new
new
studies
that
air
pollution,
even
at
very
low
levels,
is
more
of
a
threat
than
people
may
have
realized,
especially
in
low-income
areas,
and
so,
according
to
their
new
numbers,
I
believe
they
said,
nearly
98
of
the
world
is
above
what
they
believe
to
be
them
healthy
limits.
Q
Absolutely
that's
actually
a
really
tough
question
to
answer,
because
there
are
so
many
possibilities
there
isn't
that
I'm,
aware
of
a
standard
for
say
how
many
monitors
you'd
put
per
square
mile
or
where
exactly
you
want
to
prioritize
putting
them.
As
far
as
Equity
considerations
go.
There
was
a
study
in
California
that
expressed
that
putting
them
at
schools
is
a
good
way
to
because
they're
often
evenly
distributed
around
a
community
and
also
you
have
vulnerable
populations
attending
which
makes
kind
of
a
dual
interest
in
that
one.
Q
I
tried
to
plot
that
out
on
a
map
of
Bloomington
and
there
are
our
noteworthy
gaps
so
I
would
want
to
do
more
than
just
schools
if
I
were
doing
a
part
of
the
design.
As
far
as
the
sensors
go.
There
are
many
many
choices
in
instead
of
the
very
expensive
reference
quality
monitors
that
idem
uses
have
what
they
call
low-cost.
Sensors
truly
can
be
anywhere
up
to
three
thousand
dollars,
but
a
lot
of
them
like
purple
air
is
used
in
a
lot
of
places.
Q
M
Q
A
Thank
you
see
no
further
questions,
Mr
Coffee.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
report
and
for
fielding
some
questions.
We
are
agreed
upon
time.
Let's
move
forward,
are
there
any
reports
from
Council
committees
seeing
none?
That
brings
us
to
our
first
of
two
periods
of
public
comment.
This
is
for
items
not
on
our
legislative
agenda
this
evening.
May
I
have
a
show
of
hands
here
in
Chambers
of
those
who
would
like
to
offer
comment
I'm
just
seeing
one
hand
Mr
Lucas.
Could
you
extend
our
invitation
on
Zoom?
Please.
P
A
R
R
If
you
have
not
seen
any
of
the
plans
or
been
kept
in
the
loop
as
previously
promised
by
the
mayor
earlier
this
year,
we
highly
encourage
you
to
start
demanding
some
answers
and
for
mayor
Hamilton
and
his
handpick
architect
back
in
April,
when
we
finally
got
a
sit
down
with
the
architect.
I
asked
directly
about
the
timeline
for
this
project.
R
The
architect
told
me
he
believed
the
planning
could
be
fully
completed
by
October
in
construction
underway
before
the
new
year,
considering
the
years
of
planning
being
spent
on
projects
like
the
Hopewell
neighborhood
or
the
Walnut
College
Corridor
project.
That
answer
seemed
extraordinarily
fast
to
us.
I
asked
that
man,
if
it
was
their
professional
opinion,
based
on
their
vast
experience
of
never
having
built
a
police
station
or
if
they
were
given
October
as
a
goal
by
mayor
Hamilton
after
some
guilty,
looks
all
around.
R
He
finally
admitted
that
it
was
mayor
Hamilton,
who
told
him
then
set
that
date,
apparently
we're
on
some
sort
of
compressed
timeline
here.
Council
members
there's
no
reason
a
project
of
this
magnitude
should
be
rushed
into
without
doing
full,
due
diligence
and
having
full
understanding
of
the
financial
repercussions
of
Mayor
Hamilton's
Behavior.
You
were
sold
on
the
idea
that
this
was
a
Public
Safety
project
funded
with
Public
Safety
dollars.
Why,
then,
are
the
public
safety
professionals
getting
so
little
participation
in
this
process?
R
It's
perfectly
reasonable
for
you
to
ask
some
hard
fiscal
questions
prior
about
this
prior
to
the
upcoming
budget
sessions.
You
need
to
hear
the
truth.
We
fully
support
the
idea
of
a
moratorium
on
any
further
Planning
and
Building
at
the
showers
West
project
and
tell
these
questions
have
been
fully
answered
to
your
satisfaction.
R
P
P
Briefly,
Sam
says
the
city
of
Bloomington
encourages
local
artists
of
color
to
apply
for
participation
in
the
fifth
annual
Bloomington
Blackie
Brown
Arts
Festival.
The
two-day
event
will
take
place.
Friday
September,
8th
at
the
4th
Street
Garage
storefront
kicking
off
with
the
gallery,
exhibit
from
6
to
9
pm
and
a
film
screening,
starting
at
9pm
on
Saturday
September
9
at
the
switch
yard.
Park
pavilion,
the
blackie
Brown
Art
Market
will
open
from
1
to
3
PM
with
performances
beginning
at
4
pm.
P
The
festival
seeks
to
raise
and
expand
art
appreciation,
create
a
space
that
affirms
persons
of
color
in
the
community
and
provide
a
medium
for
local
talent
to
Showcase,
Visual
and
Performing
Arts
in
an
environment
that
engages
the
audience
with
artists
and
their
work,
while
enhancing
bloomington's
Spirit
of
inclusion.
The
festival
is
supported
by
the
city
of
bloomington's
commission
on
Hispanic
and
Latino
Affairs
and
safe
and
civil
City
program,
part
of
the
community
and
family
resources
department,
along
with
the
Bloomington
Arts
Commission.
P
A
A
S
Hi,
yes,
my
name
is
Jim
Shelton
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
court
appointed
special
Advocates
of
concept
just
wanted
to
quickly
update
you
again
and
the
community
that
cost
us
having
their
fall.
Training
starting
in
just
over
a
month,
will
be
from
September
19th
to
October
19th,
and
the
format
is
different
from
what
it
has
been
in
the
past
it'll
be
in
the
mornings
instead
of
the
evenings,
so
it'll
be
on
Tuesdays
and
Thursday
mornings,
from
10
to
1.
S
S
The
orientation
and
training
page
will
provide
a
bunch,
and
then
you
can
actually
click
on
I
want
to
apply
and
apply
for
the
consideration
to
be
in
the
training
right
online.
So
I
bring
that
to
published
attention.
We
do
need
more
people
to
volunteer
to
help
work
with
the
children
who
are
in
the
court
system
because
their
parents
have
abused
or
neglected
them,
and
this
how
you
would
be
how
you
would
get
started
down
the
road
to
do
that.
It's
very
satisfying
and
very,
very
needy.
So
thank
the
opportunities
to
share
that.
A
G
B
Ordinance
2314
to
amend
title
VI
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code,
entitled
health
and
sanitation
regarding
updating
and
increasing
fees
for
service
and
harmonizing
chapters.
Four
and
five
of
title
VI
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code.
The
synopsis
is
as
follows.
This
ordinance
makes
several
changes
to
title
VI
of
the
Bloomington
municipal
code
to
bring
the
title
in
line
with
change,
local
practice,
to
increase
service
fees,
to
clarify
references
and
to
harmonize
current
practices
with
the
city
code.
T
Thank
you
good
evening,
members
of
the
council,
Adam
weyson,
a
public
works
director,
always
an
honor
to
be
in
front
of
you
I.
Do
you
have
the
slide?
Stephen
yeah
perfect
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
the
all
the
slides
that
we've
gone
over
multiple
times
so
far
this
this
summer,
but
just
I
want
to
recognize
that
you
know
I
I
very
much
recognize
at
the
core.
The
decision
that
is
in
front
of
the
council
tonight
is
very
much
a
policy
decision
very
much.
T
A
decision
of
that
that
has
some
that
the
policy
decision
on
how
we
fund
sanitation
is
is
what
is
in
front
of
you.
So
in
the
end
for
me,
as
the
Public
Works
director,
my
biggest
concern
is
that
we
are
replacing
capital
on
the
on
schedules
that
make
sense
and
that
are
responsible
and
reasonable
for
for
the
sanitation
division.
T
I
very
much
understand
that,
there's
a
difference
of
opinion
on
how
this
should
be
done,
whether
it
should
be
done
with
the
rate
payers
of
Sanitation
Services,
fully
funding
that
service
or
if
it
should
be
a
more
general
fund,
property
taxes.
I
get
that
you
know,
but
for
me
it's
about
running
the
sanitation
division
to
the
best
of
our
abilities
and
making
sure
we're
being
responsible
with
our
Capital
replacement.
T
How
that
funding
comes
along
is
very
much
what's
in
front
of
you
folks,
as
the
decision
this
evening,
I've
had
a
lot
of
really
good
conversations
over
the
last
week
with
with
several
council
members
trying
to
answer
questions
and
understand
where
their
perceptions,
their
perspectives,
are
and
I
I
hope.
Those
were
fruitful
as
well
as
you
can
see
here.
Here
is
what
is
in
the
current
ordinance,
as
proposed
as
far
as
a
rate
structure
from
2023
or
for
2024
and
Beyond.
I
I
As
the
synopsis
says,
this
amendment
would
remove
the
escalating
solid
waste
disposal,
service
fees
that
would
otherwise
apply,
as
the
ordinance
is
currently
written,
starting
in
2025
and
go
through
2029.
The
amendment
would
leave
in
place
a
proposed
increase
to
the
solid
waste
disposal
service
fee
that
would
apply,
starting
on
January,
1st,
2024.
I
So
again,
two
parts,
essentially
the
first
year
bump,
was
rising
cost
Capital
replacement,
Cycles.
The
rest
of
the
escalation
was
about
reducing
general
fund
support.
So
with
this
amendment,
it
would
essentially
strike
that
second
category
of
impact
and
simply
get
us
in
a
place.
That
is
again
on
good
Capital
replacement
cycles
and
largely
mirroring
the
policy
approach
of
the
last
several
years,
which
is
about
a
million
dollars.
I
Annual
support
from
the
general
fund
I
should
be
clear
that
I
would
vote
in
favor
of
the
ordinance
as
it's
written
now
without
this
amendment,
but
it
seemed
from
last
week's
conversation
and
discussion
among
the
council
that
that
is
unlikely
to
pass
so
I
just
want
to
mention
that
a
to
voice.
What
I
still
believe
is
the
right
policy
outcome,
but
B
note
that,
just
in
case
there
are
a
majority
of
colleagues
who
would
in
fact
pass
the
ordinance
as
written.
I
Please
share
that
as
we
discuss
this
amendment,
because
I
would
prefer
that
outcome,
but
again
don't
expect
that
I
think
that's!
That's
it
I
guess
to
me.
This
is
a
better
outcome
than
not
passing
a
fee
increase
at
all,
because
if
we
don't
pass
any
sort
of
fee
increase
in
face
of
rising
costs
and
a
too
slow
Capital
replacement
time
cycle,
then
we'll
just
have
to
increase
the
general
fund
support
for
for
sanitation
fees.
Of
course,
that
comes
with
the
benefit
for
the
folks.
I
Who
would
receive
the
benefit,
namely
the
households
that
receive
City
trash
service,
but
that's
coming
from
the
general
fund
which
everybody
pays
into
and
there's
a
whole
segment
of
the
community,
largely
in
multi-family
housing
that
does
not
receive
this
benefit.
So
that's
why
I
and
others
have
been
increasingly
uncomfortable
with
the
large
general
fund,
support
and
I
and
why
I
would
be
opposed
to
the
size
of
the
general
fund,
support
increasing
so
I
think.
That's
my
rationale
for
the
amendment
and
happy
to
answer
questions
from
books.
T
Staff's
preference
was
probably
to
go
with
a
longer
period
of
time
to
reduce
the
general
fund
support.
That
was
what
the
administration
came
forward
with
as
the
initial
proposals,
and
you
know
that
that
still
is
probably
our
it's
still
the
goal,
but
we
also
recognize
that
we
I
also
recognize
that
we
need
to
get
a
rate
structure
pass.
That's
going
to
allow
us
to
purchase
a
truck
next
year.
We
need
to
so
I
would
support
this.
T
It's
not
certain
that
we
wouldn't
be
back
in
front
of
the
council
again
next
year,
asking
for
rates
for
2025,
depending
on
what
priorities
are
going
forward.
So
at
this
point,
I
think
we
could
support
this,
knowing
that
it
at
least
hopefully
provides
enough
revenue
for
a
truck,
and
so
yes,
we
can
support.
I
M
I
M
P
I
think
it
would
not
be
Troublesome
to
amend
the
amendment
we
might
want
to
take
a
brief
recess.
If
that's
the
will
of
the
council
to
get
that
in
writing
whether
it's
laid
out
in
a
table
or
a
set
percentage
I,
don't
think
it
matters.
You
might
want
to
check
with
Mr
wayson
on
his
whether
he
has
a
preference
between
those
two.
M
M
A
T
T
If
we
don't
address
this
again
in
2024,
a
two
to
three
percent
are
so
what
I
would
tell
you
is
our
current
contract
with
Hoosier
disposal
includes
a
three
percent
CPI
Clause
so,
depending
on
CPI
year
over
year,
there's
a
maximum
of
three
percent
increase,
that's
built
into
the
contract
for
our
disposal
and
recycling
processing.
So
if
we
were
going
to
go
this
route,
I
would
suggest
three
percent
to
mirror
that,
and
that
does
kind
of
that
does
help
with
some
of
the
concerns
of
rising
costs
over
time.
T
T
Four
years
ago,
five
years
ago,
they
were
about
310
to
340
000
we're
paying
up
to
395
to
425
for
a
truck
right
now,
if
we
were
to
order
one
so
so
again,
yes,
I
think
a
three
percent
CPI
built
in
as
a
additional
part
of
this
amendment
would
help
us,
but
I
think
we'll
also
will
probably
be
back
in
the
next
few
years.
Anyway.
M
Thank
you
and
that,
in
that
case,
I
think
maybe
I
have
a
proposal
that
might
be
easy
for
a
staff
to
draft
that
I
would
like
to
move
to
an
amendment
to
the
amendment.
Let's
call
it
Amendment
a
that
would
change
the
sentence,
schedule
of
service
fees
for
disposal
of
solid
waste
to
add
a
period
and
then
a
sentence.
Saying
fees
shall
increase
by
three
percent.
Each
January
1st.
M
Just
restate
the
motion:
is
this
an
amendment
a
to
change
the
sentence
in
section
6,
which
is
a
title
of
the
the
cart
fee
schedule
that
said
schedule
a
service
fees
for
disposable
solids
waste
period.
Such
fees
listed
below
shall
increase
three
percent
each
year
on
January
1st
I
may
have
just
stated
it
two
different
ways.
E
A
M
The
idea
here
is
that,
regardless
of
what
happens,
if
this
issue
were
to
be
taken
up
next
year,
at
least
as
Mr
wayson
pointed
out
that
you
know,
if
they're
planning
for
the
2025
budget
they're
going
to
be
doing
that
earlier
than
we
consider
it
in
August,
and
this
gives
them
Security
in
the
knowledge
that
well
we're
trying
to
stay
on
the
truck
replacement
schedule.
But
we're
already
falling
behind,
because
this
is
a
one-time
increase.
So
fees
listed
below
shall
increase
three
percent
each
year
on
January
1st,
beginning
January,
1st
2025..
A
M
A
very
good
question:
I
guess
you
could
say
it
I,
don't
know
what
you
mean
by
locks
Us
in
it.
It
prevents
public
works
from
falling
behind
if
Council
next
year
does
not
take
action
to
reduce
the
general
fund
subsidy
or
whatever.
This
is
at
least
Assurance,
while
Council
councils
of
the
future
decide
what
to
do
next
right.
A
A
H
H
And
you're,
okay,
with
your
Amendment,
with
your
numbers,
gone
and
replace
that
with
three
percent
for
the
duration,
starting
in
January,
1st
2025
yeah
until
29,
or
whenever
it's
late,
to
go
definitely
indefinitely,
which
changes
everything
that
you
amended
in
the
first
place.
Okay,
now
I'm
clear.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
P
H
A
A
I
So
for
the
the
cart
size,
the
smallest
cart
size,
for
instance,
we
can
see
on
the
screen
there,
eight
dollars
and
75
cents
in
2024
that
would
be
go
to
nine
dollars,
and
one
cent
in
2025.
so
about
a
quarter
to
the
monthly
fee
is
what
we're
talking
about
for,
for
that
cart.
Size
is
what
a
three
percent
adjustment
looks
like
a
little
bit
higher
for
the
the
bigger
cart
sizes,
but
in
no
case
more
than
a
dollar
for
those
initial
increases.
I
M
Perhaps
have
referred
to
it
as
sub
Amendment,
a
just
to
clarify,
because
councilmember
Sims
rightly
was
confused
by
when
we
make
amendments
to
amendments
and
I
recall
his
first
night
on
Console.
He
had
a
hell
of
an
amendment
to
an
amendment
to
an
amendment
to
to
to
try
to
figure
out,
but
having
said
that,
I
agree
with
customer
Flaherty's
initial
Amendment
or
comment
during
his
amendment.
That
I
would
prefer
to
see
the
general
fund
subsidy
eliminated,
but
barring
that,
and
since
this
amendment
I
think,
is
what
will
make
this
ordinance
pass.
M
I
just
wanted
to
restore
the
understanding
that,
especially
in
light
of
the
recent
couple
of
years
and
the
significant
inflation
that
we
saw,
that
we
need
to
take
inflation
into
account
and
that,
while
a
future
Council
might
choose
to
put
back
to
remove
the
general
fund
subsidy
which
again
I
agree
with
this
at
least
offers
some
assurance
that
we
recognize
that
inflation
exists.
Thank
you.
H
G
A
A
P
U
D
Furthermore,
that
a
one
million
dollar
general
fund
subsidy
could
be
well
used
for
other
purposes
that,
as
far
as
waste
reduction
composting
or
even
other
the
needs
of
our
low-income
community,
that
could
go
a
long
way.
So,
for
those
reasons,
I
actually
prefer
the
ordinance
without
the
amendment,
but
again
in
the
interest
of
compromise
and
getting
some
fee
increase
to
cover
our
Rising
costs.
I
will
be
voting
in
favor
and
I
appreciate
council
member
proflarity
bringing
it
forward.
Thank
you.
F
We
have
raised
local
income
taxes
in
order
to
do
that,
and
this
allows
me
to
vote
in
favor
of
what
I
understand
to
be
the
the
costs
of
living
and
the
cost
of
doing
business
and
the
need
to
have
increases
in
the
user
fees,
but
not
to
be
in
any
way
replacing
our
responsibility
to
provide
this
service
from
our
general
funds.
So,
thank
you
again.
I
will
vote
Yes
for
this
amendment.
H
Thank
you.
I
want
to
thank
council
member
Flaherty
for
bringing
the
amendment
I'm,
not
thrilled
with
the
addition
to
the
amendment,
because
initially
I
just
couldn't
support
the
original
original
amend
ordinance
as
it
was
I
mean
and
I.
Think
many
of
my
colleagues
felt
that,
because
we're
changing
it
because
I
think
they
believe
there
wasn't
enough
votes
to
push
that
through.
H
So
having
said
that,
I
will
say
this
too,
at
a
little
levity
to
things.
I'm
really
surprised.
One
of
my
colleagues
then
offered
to
divide
the
question
tonight:
okay,
yeah.
She
got
that
my
comment
is
this
Capital
Improvements
BPD
and
bft
and
law
enforcement.
Of
course
they
have
the
benefit
of
PS
lit
and
have
a
10-year
plan
to
go
along
with
that.
H
One
of
the
whole
reasons
that
I
voted
for
or
supported
the
PS
lit
that
generated
roughly
16
million
dollars
was
for
all
of
this
basic
city
services
that
we've
been
talking
about,
of
which
trash
collection
is
one
of
them.
Okay,
I'm,
not
happy
that
leaf
collection
went
away,
but
I
understand
that's
part
of
the
compromise
on
a
lot
of
different
levels.
So
that's
something
we
can
live
with.
H
We
have
the
the
Econo,
the
Ed,
let
we're
going
to
have
a
referendum,
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
a
water
rate,
increase
coming
up
soon,
that
that's
almost
like
on
autopilot
the
utilities.
Okay
and-
and
we
look
at
this-
and
we
look
at
that
part
in
that
part-
we'll
put
all
those
pots
together,
then
I
think
you'll
feel
the
full
influence
that
is
going
to
be
born
on
the
backs
of
many
of
our
taxpayers.
H
H
I
don't
want
that
confused
Equity
is
not
equal
equals,
not
equity.
In
my
mind,
the
16
million
dollars
it's
almost
like
and
I
understand
inflation,
and
all
these
other
things,
councilman
volin
said
when
I
first
got
on
the
council,
when
I
was
the
first
Budget
on
the
first
month,
I
was
here
and
yes,
things
were
a
little
bit
confusing
those
first
couple
of
weeks,
but
I
will
still
I
was
learning
the
ropes,
but
what
I
was
confident
in
and
I
know.
This
is
on
a
much
smaller
scale.
H
H
Do
I
do
a
GoFundMe
page
or
something?
No.
You
re-prioritize
your
budget.
You
pay
for
what
you
need
to
pay
for
you.
Try
to
save
for
other
things,
I
mean
there's
nobody
I,
don't
I,
don't
pass
an
extra
two
percent
on
my
children
because,
okay,
you
live
here.
You
got
to
raise.
You
know
this.
You
can
pay
us,
so
we
can
do
this.
I
mean
you
alter
your
budget
and
you
you
make
things
fit.
H
It's
just
costs,
I
mean
that's
one
reason
why
I
voted
for
again.
The
Ed
lit
16
million
dollars
is
a
lot
plus
with
what
we
already
had
and
if
we
look
at
certain
things
and
prioritize,
maybe
some
of
the
buckets
and
we're
talking
to
subsidy
we're
talking
one
million
bucks.
Now
it's
nothing
to
sneeze
at
it's,
nothing
to
sneeze
at
that's.
Why
I
was
happy
with
with
councilmember
Flaherty's
it.
It
would
add
a
little
some
more
to
reduce
that
a
little
bit,
but
it
wouldn't
be
on
the
full
backs
of
our
constituents.
H
But
with
this
addition,
it's
going
to
be
hard
for
me
to
do.
My
neighbor
across
the
street
bought
a
house
a
little
three
bedroom
thing:
small
small
house
three
years
in
2020.
paid
185
thousand
dollars
for
it,
and
I
won't
tell
you
how
much
the
cost
years
ago,
okay,
but
anyway
paid
185
000
for
it.
I
was
shocked.
H
Okay,
three
years
later,
they
just
sold
it
a
month
ago
for
260
thousand
dollars.
Now,
where
do
those
people
go
to
get
additional
funds?
You
see?
And
if
you
can't,
if
you
didn't,
have
the
funds,
then
you
can't
afford
it
and
I
don't
I
mean
I,
know
I'm
not
trying
to
push
those
two
together
for
you
all
to
see,
but
the
reality
of
the
matter
is
is
that
we
gave
an
increase,
and
this
is
more
of
an
increase.
H
I
mean
why
isn't
the
Capital
Improvements
part
of
the
budget
process,
like
every
other
department,
like
every
other
department?
Yes,
we
need
new
trucks.
I
understand
that
I
see
those
trucks.
I
mean
they're,
they're
working
hard
they're
doing
what
they're
supposed
to
they're,
crushing
the
crap
out
of
our
our
containers
too,
but
that's
what
they
do.
H
That's
what
they
do
so
I
I
mean
I,
understand
all
that.
But
I
just
feel
this
is
on
the
backs
of
our
constituents,
and
it's
just
going
to
be
hard
for
me
to
support
it.
So
I
think
with
the
compromise
and
I
do
again
want
to
thank
council
member
Flaherty,
because
I
do
believe.
I
told
him
a
couple
weeks
ago,
there's
always
Middle
Ground
to
everything
and
I.
H
E
E
It's
the
city
has
enough
money
to
move
some
money
around
and
continue
the
subsidy
from
the
general
fund,
and
just
it
it
just
doesn't
make
any
sense
that
it
it
doesn't
help
that
they
do
that
and
I
know.
We
need
to
help
make
sure
that
Mr,
wayson's
Department
is,
can
continue
on
and
have
good
equipment
and
everything
so
I
think
councilman,
Flaherty
and
I'll
be
supporting
this.
Thank
you.
A
Seeing
none
I'll
finish
up
my
thanks
as
well:
I
I
think
councilmember
Flaherty's
assessment
was
accurate.
I
do
think
we
have
a
policy
difference
on
Council
about
the
role
of
the
general
fund,
subsidy
in
trash
collection
and
sanitation
and
I
think
that
difference
would
have
prevented
passage
last
week.
So
I
appreciate
this
step
forward.
A
B
N
O
A
A
A
V
Okay
good
to
go
there,
we
go
just
like
to
say
that
listening
to
several
of
the
council
members
say
they
would
have
a
hooding
for
this,
that
they
go
ahead
and
vote
for
that's
distressing
to
me.
I!
Don't
think
that
many
of
the
resident
taxpayers
think
that
you
all
are
subsidizing
our
TracFone
and
I.
Think
you
are
also
not
pushing
hard
enough
to
see
about
pay
as
you
throw.
V
M
Remember
Sims
I
appreciate
it.
I
also
appreciate
Ms
Nagel's
point
and
it
gives
me
an
opportunity
to
mention
pay
as
you
throw
as
Mr
wayson
can
attest,
I
had
serious
concerns
which
have
been
consistent
since
sanitation.
Modernization
was
considered,
I
think
in
2017
and
I've
consist
one
of
the
most
consistent
things.
I've
heard
from
constituents,
not
just
my
own,
but
from
other
districts
over
the
years
is
those
people
who
are
very
conscientious
about
not
putting
out
their
trash
every
week,
because
they're
trying
to
make
less
trash
they're
making
so
little
Trash.
M
I
had
imagined
a
dollar
discount
so
that,
if
somebody
were
to
just
as
an
example,
I
don't
I
didn't
know
what
the
final
amount
should
be,
but
in
the
case
of
a
dollar
discount
for
not
putting
out
your
bin
in
a
given
week
at
most
four
times
a
month,
you
would
be
able
to
get
a
discount
you'd
still
be
paying.
Let's
call
it
250
a
month
for
the
cost
of
operating
the
system,
which
was
the
principal
under
which
we
approved
sanitation,
modernization,
the
previous
term
and
yeah
like
this.
M
M
My
message
to
the
mayor's
office
is
in
the
upcoming
budget.
If
the
public
works
department
doesn't
have
enough
staff
to
make
pay
as
you
throw
a
reality,
give
them
the
staff.
That's
another
reason
why
I
mean
if,
especially
if
it,
if
it
reduces
the
total
amount
of
waste,
you
know
where
we.
This
debate
is
as
much
a
debate
between
the
budget
and
the
climate
as
anything
else.
I
take
Mr
sims's
concern
about
the
the
local
income
tax
that
we
raised
last
year.
M
Although
I
think
we
had
an
extensive
debate
in
Council
about
how
it
was
going
to
be
broken
down
and
we've,
as
a
council
tried
to
hold
the
administration
to
make
sure
that,
just
because
they
agreed
one
year,
they
put
four
million
to
Transit,
didn't
mean
that
they
would
do
it
the
next
year.
I
think
that
we
all
expect
that
come
budget
time
we're
going
to
see
roughly
the
same
proportions
as
was
promised
last
year
when
we
first
put
in
the
tax.
M
But
this
is
you
know
where
the
the
concern
about
the
subsidy
aside
and
it's
a
legitimate
one.
This
is
also
a
discussion
about
budget
versus
climate
and
it's
hard
and
there's
no
easy
answer,
but
pay
as
you
throw
like
I
mean
I
I
could
vote
against
this
just
because
it
doesn't
involve
pay
as
you
throw.
The
Administration
has
had
enough
time
to
figure
out
a
way
to
give
Public
Works
the
resources
that
it
needs
to
enable
this
service
that
citizens,
like
Ms
Nagle,
are
calling
for
I.
M
Have
the
35
gallon
bin
I
don't
put
trash
out
every
week.
I
don't
need
the
dollar
back,
but
the
point
is
other
people
do
Mr
Sims,
you
know
is
very
concerned
about
those
people
who
can't
afford
the
increases
that
we're
talking
about
tonight
he's
not
wrong
about
that.
This
is
a
way
to
incentivize
people
further
and
maybe
to
cut
costs
at
the
same
time.
M
So
you
know
I
regret
that
I
can't
make
that
happen
in
order
to
make
this
ordinance
happen
and
I,
don't
think
it's
a
problem
at
Public,
Works
level,
I
think
it's
a
problem
with
the
administration's
overall
priorities,
while
I
may
differ
from
other
members
in
what
those
budget
priorities
should
be.
I
think
that
this
is
one
that
would
have
majority
support
again.
The
the
key
here
is
in
the
budget.
M
H
In
talking
to
individually
with
some
of
my
colleagues,
the
word
that
kept
coming
out
from
me
was
compelling
that
and
and
I
understand,
I'm,
not
quite
satisfied
that
this
is
just
a
budget
versus
climate
argument.
I
think
it's
way
way
more
than
that,
but
I
haven't
heard
anything
that
was
really
compelling
for
me
to
support
the
original
ordinance.
H
I
hadn't
heard
what
other
incentives.
We've
talked
a
little
bit
about.
Compost,
we've
talked
about
some
other
things,
but
what
other
incentives
or
or
what
else
have
we
tried
before?
We
asked
for
many
more
dollars
from
those
that
are
already
committing
dollars?
I
mean
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
was
not
compelling
to
me.
I
hadn't
heard
anything
else.
What
else
have
we
tried?
I've
heard
paid
a
throw
I've
heard
a
couple
things,
but
that's
just
talk
we're
just
talking
what
else
have
we
done?
What
has
the
administration
done?
What
has
Public
Works
done?
H
H
H
And
and
justify
that
I
can
explain
it.
I
can't
justify
it.
So
those
are
just
my
comments
and
I.
Think
we've
had
some
robust
discussion,
I'm
also
not
so
sure,
there's
been
a
an
insinuation.
Maybe
that's
not
the
right
word
that
whatever
we
don't
do
or
do
do
that
future
Council
probably
will
consider
this
again
and
that
to
me
is
a
little
bit
distressing
as
well.
I
mean
that's.
H
Why
we're
doing
this
here
now
and
to
say:
well,
you
know,
if
you
don't
do
it
we'll
do
this
three
percent,
but
we'll
probably
look
at
this
later
and
we'll
probably
raise
up
we'll
get
different
people.
You
know
that
and
again
I'm
not
putting
words
in
anybody
to
say,
but
that's
what
I
felt
when
I
heard
that
so
I
only
have
one
vote.
I
still
think
it's
important
to
be
one-ninth
of
those
votes
and
I
will
vote
accordingly.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair.
M
I
would
like
to
issue
a
challenge,
a
rhetorical
challenge,
to
my
colleagues,
who
believe
that
we
should
continue
to
subsidize
single-family
homes.
The
administration
actually
did
make
a
proposal
to
reduce
the
subsidy
which
they
could
have
used,
although
they
didn't
tie
it
to
this,
but
they
could
have
used
it
to
give
Public
Works
more
staff
to
do
things
like
pay.
M
As
you
throw
the
money
that
we're
using
from
the
general
fund
to
subsidize
single-family
home
sanitation
could
be
used
to
help
not
only
reward
people
who
have
the
smallest
bin
and
don't
put
trash
at
every
week.
It
could
also
be
used
to
provide
help
to
the
people
that
councilman
presumes
is
concerned
about.
We
could
have
money
set
aside
to
help
people
who
have
trouble
paying
their
sanitation
Bill,
since
we
recognize
that
it's
going
up.
M
I
Just
a
few
thoughts
folks
have,
you
know,
expressed
concern
about
people
having
to
pay
fees
that
cover
the
full
cost
of
trash
service
without
general
fund
support.
That
folks
would
have
a
hard
time
affording
paying
Market
rates
essentially
for
trash
service.
I
think
that's
astute
and
accurate,
which
is
why
I'm
so
concerned
that
half
of
our
residents
don't
get
any
benefit
from
the
general
fund,
we're
taking
money
and
giving
it
to
one
group.
Well,
the
other
group
does
not
benefit.
I
That's
the
distributive
inequity
and
like
that,
we
just
haven't
really
been
able
to
Grapple
with,
and
it's
still
really
concerning
to
me
again,
I
think
this
as
amended.
This
ordinance
moves
us
into
a
better
situation
than
we
would
be
if
it
doesn't
pass,
but
as
long
as
I'm
in
public
service
I
will
continue
to
want
to
address
in
equities
where
they
exist
and,
in
fact,
I
think
we
just
need
more
staff
power
dedicated
to
being
able
to
look
at
these
questions
with
a
deep
lens
of
analysis.
I
I
The
group,
that's
not
getting
that
pot
of
money
that
has
to
pay
full
rates
for
all
their
trash
service
and
have
their
tax
dollars
going
to
reduce
other
people's
rates.
That
group
is
disproportionately
renters
people
of
color
and
lower
income
people
in
Bloomington.
They
are
struggling
to
pay
their
bills,
there's
a
lot
of
folks
struggling
to
pay
their
bills,
but
that
that
is
a
fundamental
systemic
distributive
inequity
that
this
Council
has
failed
to
Grapple
with
just
at
all,
and
that's
that's
still
really
concerning
to
me.
I
That's
with
respect
to
where
you
know,
general
fund
dollars
are
going
and
where
they're
not
and
who
gets
the
benefit
and
who
doesn't
in
conversations
with
councilmember
Sims,
though,
and
and
he's
he's
done,
I
think
an
important
job
of
pointing
out
that
there
are
other
layers
of
inequity
here.
Besides
that
particular
systemic
inequity
in
both
of
those
groups
in
the
group,
that's
getting
City
trash
service
and
the
group
that
is
not.
There
are
folks
that
are
just
doing
just
fine.
There
are
folks
that
are
struggling
to
pay
their
bills.
I
There
are
people
in
both
of
those
camps
who
are
struggling,
and
it
goes
to
a
broader
policy
implication
of
when
we
talk
about
city
services,
water
fees,
trash
fees,
all
the
rest
flat
rates
that
everybody
pays.
The
same
are
also
fundamentally
inequitable.
You
know
we
should
really
be
looking
at,
especially
for
income
qualified
folks.
What
options
are
there
to
pay
less
to
pay
a
smaller
proportion
of
their
income
for
basic
Services,
because
the
proportion
of
their
income
going
to
services
and
having
to
make
trade-offs
between
food
and
medicine?
I
And
you
know,
keeping
the
lights
on
are
just
that
much
more
real,
so
those
those
things
get
really
challenging.
When
we
start
to
try
to
talk
about
you
know:
percent
of
income,
payment
plans
or
programs
like
we
have
at
City
Bloomington
utilities
that
can
you
know,
help
folks
with
a
payment
plan
when
they
need
it.
I'm
not
I'm,
glad
that
program's
in
place,
I'm,
not
convinced
it's
enough
and
and
what
I'm
hearing
from
councilmember
Simmons
in
particular,
and
what
I
think
I
agree
with.
H
Very
brief
and
again,
I
really
appreciate
my
colleagues
just
talking
things
out,
even
if
we
may
disagree
on
some
things,
but
being
able
to
talk
it
out,
I
think
is
okay,
but
I
hear
the
the
trash
for
an
example
that
people
of
color
and
others
are
in
equitably,
treated
or
represented
due
to
the
cost
there
and
I
do
believe
in
one
of
our
conversations.
I
said:
well,
you
know
name
me,
one
thing,
one:
social
ill
that
is
not
disparately
represented
by
people
of
color
or
black
people
or
lower
income.
H
H
I
just
listened
to
a
report
the
other
day,
even
though
the
black
or
African-American
black
American
population
is
less
than
four
percent
make
up
over
20
percent
of
the
residents
in
our
Correctional
Facility,
and
that's
just
one
you
see
so
so
again
with
lived
experiences
and
all
these
sorts
of
things.
That's
what
leads
me
to
to
say
and
vote
the
way
I
feel
still
love.
My
colleagues,
even
we
disagree
and
I,
think
many
of
them
had
listened
and
I,
truly
truly
appreciate
that.
So
thank
you.
A
G
O
B
O
O
G
A
B
Teen
to
amend
Title
II
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code,
entitled
Administration
and
Personnel
regarding
amending
2.76.040
entitled
boundaries
to
expend
the
service
area
of
the
Bloomington
Public
Transportation
Corporation
synopsis
is
as
follows.
This
ordinance
is
sponsored
by
council
member
voland.
It
would
authorize
Bloomington
Transit
to
expend
services
within
the
boundaries
of
Monroe
County
through
appropriate
interlocal
agreements
that
specify
exact
areas
and
Equitable
funding
mechanisms
for
those
services.
D
M
M
One
of
the
first
important
points
I
want
to
highlight
tonight
is
that
this
is
one
of
the
most
significant,
the
most
significant
change
to
Bloomington
Transit
since
the
origin
of
public
transit
in
Bloomington.
I
say
that
to
point
out
that
preceding
the
Bloomington
Public
Transportation
corporation
was
ordinance.
M
But
it's
been
the
reality
since
1982
that
we've
had
service
provided
by
a
separate
Corporation,
and
you
all
know
that
we
vote
and
have
always
voted
since
then,
on
the
Bloomington
transit's
budget
separately
from
the
Civil
City
budget
and
the
other
budget.
We
have
a
separate
ordinance
for
the
Bloomington
Transit
budget.
There
was
a
change
to
city
code
in
2014,
but
it
was
unrelated
to
to
what
we're
talking
about
tonight.
M
M
This
change
also
reflects
the
Strategic
plans
that
Bloomington
Transit
adopted
at
the
beginning
of
this
year.
Their
plan
is
called
transform,
BT
and
it
meets
several
key
objectives
in
that
plan
and
it
fulfills
its
primary
strategy
for
meeting
those
objectives.
I'll
just
quote
strategy
number
1.1.
The
very
first
strategy
that
they
named
in
their
plan
was
to
remove
the
barrier
to
allow
Bloomington
Transit
to
provide
service
throughout
Monroe
County.
This
ordinance
makes
the
the
boundaries
of
the
Bloomington
Transit
serviceable
area
contiguous
with
Monroe
County,
so
in
a
single
swoop.
M
It
achieves
this
and
doesn't
require
multiple
actions.
To
do.
Second,
Point.
That's
important
is
that
the
the
Bloomington
Municipal,
the
Bloomington
metropolitan
area
has
grown
I
have
said
on
many
occasions
in
Council
before
that.
There's
never
been
a
time
in
the
200
year,
history
of
Bloomington,
IU
or
Monroe
County,
where
each
has
not
grown
in
the
decennial
year,
with
the
exception
of
2020
and
we've
been
you
heard
tonight
from
the
previous
presentation.
M
You've
heard
from
me
before
about
how
mistaken
the
census
County
Bloomington
was
and
that
we
have
in
fact
grown,
but
nevertheless,
in
2023
the
third
year
after
his
census
comes
determination
by
the
Department
of
Commerce
of
what
our
metropolitan
area
is,
and
it's
also
the
same
year
that
we
get
a
new
map
of
the
Bloomington
urbanized
area,
and
the
upshot
of
the
new
map
is
that
rural
transit's
ability
to
serve
the
community
will
be
curtailed
starting
in
2024..
This
is
the
2010
urbanized
area
of
the
city
of
Bloomington.
M
I
want
to
call
your
attention
to
the
area
between
Ellettsville
and
Bloomington
and
to
all
the
edges
around
the
city,
because
in
2020
you'll
see
some
dramatic
difference,
Ellisville
has
grown
significantly,
Bloomington
has
grown
and
it
affects
rural
transit's
ability
to
provide
service
here
is
the
2020
map
with
the
city
limits.
Superimposed
on
it
also
Bloomington,
transits
routes
are,
are
shown.
Herein
again,
you
can
see
that
they're
limited
to
the
city.
Significant
areas
are
unserved
and
will
remain
unserved,
at
least
until
the
question
of
annexation
is
resolved.
M
M
As
a
result
of
this
change
in
the
map,
many
of
the
destinations
at
rural
Transit
could
have
served,
will
no
longer
be
serviceable
by
rural
Transit
and
they
have
sent
a
letter
which
I
believe
might
be
in
your
packet,
whether
they
or
separately
that
pointed
out
that
they
don't
know
what
they're
going
to
do.
But
they
know
that
they
can't
provide
as
many
services
that
they're
accustomed
to
and
the
only
practical
agency
that
can
pick
up.
That
slack
is
Bloomington.
M
So
this
ordinance
would
not
obligate
anyone
living
outside
the
city
to
pay
taxes.
That
would
require
a
new
taxing
district.
That
would
have
a
BT
board
made
up
of
people
from
every
jurisdiction.
If
any
of
you
are
familiar
with
the
Monroe
County
Solid
Waste
District,
it's
made
up
of
people
from
city
of
Bloomington
County
of
Monroe
town
of
el
tool.
So
that's
a
multi-jurisdictional
government
agency,
that's
not
on
the
table
here
and
so
as
a
result.
M
What
this
is
doing
is
giving
BT
authority
to
negotiate
interlocal
agreements
with
Monroe
County
with
Ellettsville
with
anyone
any
other
entity.
I'm
not
sure
there
are
any
other
entities
besides
those
two,
but
it
would
give
them
authority
to
negotiate
contracts
and
for
those
agencies
to
not
feel
like
maybe
they're
going
to
waste
their
time,
because
we
won't
approve
the
expansion
we're
doing
it.
M
Preemptively
with
this
ordinance,
I
have
been
careful
in
wording
this
ordinance
to
alleviate
concerns
from
the
mayor's
office
and
and
anyone
else
that
the
source
of
funds
that
say
the
county
should
be
using
to
negotiate.
Agreements
with
BT
should
not
result
in
an
effective
double
taxation
of
Bloomington
residents.
M
W
What
we
are
asking
Council
to
approve
is
to
give
Bloomington
Transit
the
ability
to
operate
outside
of
the
city
limits,
I,
think
each
council
member
is
aware
we
have
to
received
requests
for
service
outside
of
the
city
limits.
You
know,
we've
talked
about
the
East-West
Express
route
that
we
now
call
the
green
line.
W
C
You
speak,
you
know
me
as
chairman
of
the
board.
A
year
ago
we
embarked
on
a
strategic
plan.
That
plan
was
adopted
by
the
board
in
January.
This
was
one
of
the
key
features
that
we
have.
We
have
a
consultant
study
which
told
us
that
we
should
be
operating
out
of
the
city
limits.
We
said:
well,
that's
fine,
but
we
can't
do
it.
We've
we've
been
addressing
it.
C
A
E
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
appreciate
it
a
lot
all
you're
doing
fantastic
I
do
have
this
question,
though
I
used
to
work
for
area
10.
and
there's
a
real
concern
that
the
action
that
you're
going
to
take,
or
that
we're
going
to
allow
you
to
take
with
extending
the
boundaries
will
prevent
people
from
receiving
Services.
You
know
point
to
point
doctor
to
home
those
kind
of
things.
So
the
the
note
that
Miss
Meyer
sent
to
us
about
asking
that
you
know
you
confine
yourselves
to
the
urbanized
area
as
defined
in
the
census.
W
So
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
be
in
a
position
to
to
provide
service
to
those
individuals.
Our
intent
is
not
to
absorb
any
more
than
the
urban
Urban,
so
we
have
no
intention
of
limiting
their
ability
to
continue
rural
to
Urban.
You
know
this.
This
came
about
through
the
state
they
reached
out
to
us,
they
said.
Well,
what
can
we
do
to
help
these
individuals
who
are
going
to
lose
service?
E
N
E
W
Does
So
currently
Our
intention
is
just
to
provide
those
trips
that
they're
no
longer
able
to
provide
the
the
reason
we
want
to
ability
to
operate
county-wide
is
we
don't
want
to
be
back
in
front
of
this
Council
in
five
years
when
things
change
and
there's
areas
ripe
for
public
transportation
that
we're
no
longer
able
to
serve
because
we
stuck
to
you
know
we
don't
want
to
piecemeal
it.
In
other
words,
we
want
to
have
the
ability
to
adapt.
W
I
A
similar
related
question,
I
guess
so.
First
just
checking
or
confirming
my
understanding.
There
are
folks
currently
served
by
rural
Transit,
who
will
no
longer
legally
be
allowed
to
be
served
by
rural
Transit,
because
both
this
origin
and
destination
of
the
trips
they're
taking
are
in
what
is
now
an
urbanized
area.
Correct.
Is
that
correct
and
when
you
say
you'd
like
to
meet
that
meet
that
need,
it
would
be
providing
that
service
on
the
same
terms
that
rural
Transit
does
now
actually.
W
M
W
W
I
I
If
it's
matching
kind
of
a
current
level
of
service
that
folks
were
formerly
able
to
access
through
Bloomington
Transit
and
we're
creating
a
new
BT
service
to
match
that
is
it
only
available
in
an
urbanized
area
that
falls
outside
of
city
limits,
or
will
it
be
available
Citywide?
Will
anybody
will
access
this
new
kind
of
convenience
Fair
on
demand
service?
Ultimately,.
W
Our
goal
is
to
implement
a
hybrid
microtransit
system,
so
individuals
who
currently
don't
use
fixed
route
transportation
because
they're
just
simply
too
far
from
it,
we'd
like
to
implement
a
program
similar
to
what
we
would
be
doing
for
those
rural
Transit
folks
and-
and
we
were
we're
in
discussions
currently
for
software
programs
to
implement
those
type
of
services.
It's
part
of
the
strategic
planning
process.
This
will
actually
drive
the
acceleration
of
that
program.
So.
I
W
H
W
G
W
M
On
the
questions,
I
I
heard
on
the
other
side
of
the
Deus,
is
it
maybe
correct
to
say
that
whatever
fixed
root,
Services
you're,
offering
right
now
again
for
people
who
are
too
far
from
it?
Even
if
they
have
now
been
included
in
the
urbanized
area,
they
still
are
unlikely
to
use
the
fixed
Street
Service.
They
will
need
the
on-demand
service
and
combined
with
the
fact
that
rural
Transit
will
lose
some
funding
and
have
to
cut
back
some
Services
like
you.
This
is
one
reason
why
you
want
this
change.
W
I
think
the
primary
reason
we
want
the
change
is
we
we
View
public
transportation
as
a
regional
solution.
We
part
of
our
strategic
planning
process.
We
want
Bloomington
Transit
to
become
the
mobility
provider
for
the
community
and
we
say
community
we're
talking
the
region,
meaning
the
county.
You
know,
there's
the
memo
that
we
sent
to
the
council
had
six
bullet
points.
Why
we
felt
this
was
important.
You
know
some
were
environmental
benefits,
economic
benefits.
There's
there's
a
variety
of
pluses
here,
I,
don't
think
I
answered
your
question.
Well,.
M
W
Likely
is
Alexville
interested
they've,
been
in
the
few
of
the
meetings
recently
with
conversations
about
you
know
the
funding
how
future
expansions
could
be
funded
through
the
county
or
the
town
of
Ellettsville.
You
know
we
work
closely
with
the
administration.
We
would
welcome
a
member
of
council
to
to
be
a
part
of
that
process
and
we
determined
what's
an
equitable
way
to
to
to
to
to
to
determine
a
funding
mechanism.
M
W
Yes,
so
park
and
ride
was
identified
as
a
possibility
of
within
the
strategic
planning
process.
There
are
some
you
know,
high
density
developments
that
have
been
constructed
in
Ellettsville
that
may
be
primed
for
partnership
agreements.
You
know
we
have
three
partnership
agreements
currently
with
the
Verve
Atlas,
so
you
know
those
situations
you
have
the
private
developers
playing
paying
the
fully
allocated
costs
for
the
service,
while
other
people
benefit
because
they're
open
to
the
public.
So
we
see
there's
a
possibility
for
that
to
develop
in
that
area,
because
it's
growing.
M
W
M
Ride,
in
other
words,
what
you're
saying
is
on-demand
service
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
we
have
traditionally
left
to
rural
Transit
and
which
we
want
to
enable
them
to
do
as
much
as
possible
right
when
one
point
is
outside
the
urbanized
area,
but
fixed
route
service
Canon
should
be
available
anywhere
in
the
county.
Yes,
great
Mr,
McCleary,
yeah
sure.
C
Just
a
real
point
of
clarity,
the
the
money
that
world
Transit
is
getting
for.
This
service
is
going
away.
They
will
not
have
it
so
it
doesn't
make
any
difference
whether
BT
operates
it
or
somebody
else.
I
mean
it
is
going
away,
and
so
we're
not
quote
taking
money
away
from
World
Transit.
The
state
is
taking
money
away
from
World
Transit.
C
C
Provide
no,
these
are
demand
response
they.
These
are
demand
response
trips
that
they
have
to
schedule
three
days
in
advance,
like
John,
said
we're
going
to
do
a
day
in
advance.
We're
going
to
do
24-hour
our
microtransit
that
we
we
did
a
demonstration
and
put
into
full
effect
in
July,
is
just
kind
of
feeding
into
what
this
is
going
to
be.
So
it's
more
of
a
demand
response
service
than
it
is
really
a
fixed
route
service
is.
O
W
I
I,
just
I,
just
want
to
clarify
one
thing
that
this
whole
rural
Transit
thing
started
and
the
the
ultimate
goal
was
to
provide
service
to
those
individuals
that
were
going
to
lose
service.
That
was
the
ultimate
goal.
That's
our
only
goal.
We
have
no
hidden
agenda
here.
Those
30
trips,
most
likely
are
some
of
the
more
vulnerable
people
in
the
community.
The
fact
that
they're
traveling
into
an
urbanized
area
of
Bloomington
there's
benefit
for
whether
it
be
the
business,
the
medical
provider.
W
You
know
that
was
our
sole
motivation
to
step
in
and
say
we
can.
We
can
help,
but
there's
going
to
be
some
hurdles
we're
going
to
have
to
get
over.
This
is
one
of
those
hurdles.
There
is
no
hidden
agenda
here.
We
have
no
intention
of
trying
to
absorb
any
of
their
rural
to
rural
trips.
That's
not
on
our
radar
just
to
be
clear.
D
D
W
Okay,
so
the
5311
funding
is
for
Rural
Transportation,
those
trips
that
are
no
longer
rural,
aren't
eligible
to
be
subsidized
with
5311
funds.
I,
don't
know
to
what
extent
the
5311
funds
will
will
change.
My
understanding
is
they
most
likely
will
stay
the
same.
It's
just
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
those
trips.
D
W
Know
we
could
go
after,
for
example,
the
park
and
ride.
We
could
go
after
carbon
reduction
funds
to
establish
a
park
and
ride.
You
know
that
would
fall
under
the
category
of
an
eligible
project.
So
there's
yeah
there's
a
variety
of
different
programs
out
there.
That
will
be
eligible
for
because
we're
taking
more
of
an
original
approach.
Now.
I
Thank
you,
I'm.
Looking
at
section,
three
of
the
ordinance
were
first
at
note,
says:
council,
member
of
only
did
in
the
presentation
did.
Any
expansion
of
services
should
be
funded
through
sources
of
revenue
other
than
City
funds
or
tax
revenues
already
paid
by
City
residents
to
Bloomington
Public
Transit
Corporation,
and
then
it
also
notes
that
any
resulting
in
our
local
agreements
shall
be
Equitable
in
relation
to
the
level
of
support
City
residents
already
provide,
and,
in
speaking
with
the
mayor
I
know,
that's
you
know
been
on
his
mind
of
just
try.
I
What's
the
fair,
you
know,
balance
of
any
contributions
negotiated
with
the
other.
You
know
governmental
units
and
noting
in
particular,
that
you
know,
whereas
the
city
of
Bloomington,
as
as
a
governmental
unit,
used
to
contribute
one
to
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
to
Bloomington
Transit.
We
now
contribute
something
like
five
plus
million,
which
I
think
the
mayor
quoted.
As
you
know,
60
60
some
dollars
per
capita
essentially
going
to
Bloomington
Transit,
so
I
I
was
curious
to
hear
more
about
your
all's
thinking
with
respect
to
what
what
is
Equitable.
I
What
is
fair
in
relation
to
the
level
of
support
from
you
know,
new
units
for
new
service,
because
there's
a
variety
of
sort
of
costing
approaches
you
could
take.
You
could
say:
what's
the
marginal
cost
to
deliver
X,
but
that's
not
the
same
thing
as
you
know,
paying
for
all
the
underlying
equipment.
Personnel
Etc.
You
know
that
support
things.
So
that's
I'm,
just
looking
to
learn
more
hear
more
of
how
you're
thinking
about
those
types
of
negotiations
with
other
governmental
units
about
what's
a
fair
allocation,
so
Mr
Connell.
W
W
W
So
you
know,
that's
I,
think
that's
significant
to
note
so
to
answer
your
question.
I
would
say:
there's
a
lot
to
unpack
there
there's
a
lot
of
future
discussions
to
come
up
with
what's
equitable
and
we
plan
to
work
very
closely
with
the
administration.
We
would
welcome
a
member
of
council
to
participate
in
the
process,
but
that's
that's
going
to
be
the
next
key
step.
I
So
what
what
they
and
you
come
to
agree
might
be
Equitable
or
Fair
might
not
be
the
same
conclusion
that
you
know
either
at
the
mayoral
Administration
or
city
council
reaches,
and
so
that's
what
gave
me
a
little
bit
of
pause.
You
know
we're
kind
of
saying
this
shall
meet
X
expectation,
but
but
we're
kind
of
giving
up
our
role
in
in
helping
determine
that
what
is
really
a
complicated
analysis
based
on
you
know
some
of
the
figures
you
just
shared
well.
W
Well,
I
think
you,
you
have
regular
regulatory
authority
over
that
process
when
it
comes
to
budget
time.
When
you
see
that
we
have
Revenue
posted
for
service
outside
the
city
that
you
don't
feel
Equitable,
then
you
know
that
would
be
a
discussion
at
at
the
budget
hearing,
because
this
body
is
the
has
the
ultimate
authority
to
approve
the
bptc
budget.
But
you
know
prior
to
that.
We
we
wouldn't
want
it
to
get
to
that
point.
We
would
want
buy-in
from
both
the
city
Administration
this
Council
and
the
board.
W
I
M
Or
that
the
mayor's
most
specific
concern
was
again
that
issue
of
double
taxation.
If
any
money
comes
out
of
the
county,
general
fund,
then
effectively
we've
paid
more
than
once
as
City
residents,
who
are
also
by
default.
County
residents
I
took
his
concern
seriously
and
agreed
with
him,
and
that's
why
I
I
put
the
language
in
that
I
did.
A
P
Yes,
if
there
are
members
of
the
public
that
wish
to
speak
to
this
item,
please
let
us
know
by
raising
your
hand
in
Zoom,
you
can
do
that
by
finding
the
raise
hand
button
in
your
control
bar
by
clicking
the
reactions,
tab
or
the
more
tab.
If
you
can't
locate
it,
you
can
also
send
a
chat
to
the
meeting
host
to.
Let
us
know
you'd
like
to
speak.
A
U
Good
evening
councils,
distinguished
staffs
Christopher
mg,
on
behalf
of
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
I,
have
my
name.
Tag
on
I
want
to
thank
councilman
Poland
for
for
sponsoring
this
piece
of
legislation
championing
it
in
the
community
and
I
want
to
thank
director
of
VT
John
Connell
for
putting
up
with
my
incessant
push
and
with
meeting
me
personally
and
sort
of
educating
me
on
this
issue.
It
was
four
years
ago
that
the
chamber
put
on
its
Transit
Summit
In
This
Very.
U
Building
trying
to
get
this
particular
historic
piece
of
legislation
pass
that
sort
of
opens
up
transit
to
everyone
and
I
can't
help
but
say
that
this
we're
getting
into
the
sort
of
nuts
and
bolts
of
what
I
think
BT
Transit
the
director
John
Connell,
and
the
board
is
going
to
do
what
this
legislation
does
is
Empower
them,
who
kind
of
know
some
of
his
complications.
And
then
your
oversight
is
within
that
budget
process.
U
On
an
annual
basis,
I
mean
this
is
a
necessary
step
for
public
trans
transit
system
to
be
even
better
for
the
city
of
residents,
including
employers
and
people
who
work
in
an
urbanized
area.
Here
in
Monroe
County,
the
thing
is,
we're
going
from
citizens
are
going
from
here
to
areas
outside
of
the
city
limits.
It's
a
benefit
to
those
citizens.
Here,
it's
not
everything,
doesn't
just
stop
at
the
city
limits.
We
don't
think
on
those
terms,
I
mean
we
understand
that
you
know.
U
Lifting
these
restrictions
does
not
provide
any
services,
but
it
does
again
Empower
the
BT
to
operate
buses
outside
the
city
limits
and
provide
the
necessary
flexibility
on
routes
in
the
future
that
they
find
financially
viable.
A
change
this
Municipal
Club
provides
a
service
will
be
pushed
here
in
March.
U
If
you
recall
that
Route
30
Route
3
extension
well,
this
does
this,
opens
it
up,
I
think
really
two
BT
to
go
beyond
just
merely
going
to
iD,
Tech
and
cook
Group,
which
they
could
get
into
specific
contracts
with
them,
much
like
they
have
with
Indiana
University
I
think
this
is.
This
is
just
a
great
step
in
sort
of
moving
to
that.
U
So
we
need
a
transit
system
that
reflects
the
realities,
our
community
and
serve
the
needs
of
our
residents,
and
you
know
I
think
Transportation
core
we're
the
only
one
that
has
are
restricted
to
this
particular
basis
of
just
being
an
incorporated
area,
I,
don't
believe
Tippecanoe
over
at
Lafayette
they're,
the
same
way
or
any
of
the
other
ones.
So
I
think
this
is
an
important
step.
I
appreciate
this
consideration,
all
the
work
that
went
into
it.
Please
pass
this
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
A
X
Evening,
council
members,
my
name
is
Dave
Askins
with
the
b-square
bulletin.
I,
don't
have
questions
tonight,
but
I
did
notice.
Some
factual
issues
and
they've
mostly
been
addressed,
sort
of
gradually
and
incrementally
in
the
course
of
the
conversation,
but
I
wanted
to
condense
sort
of
those
issues
into
my
comments.
X
It's
not
the
CH
I
mean
the
map's
changed,
but
it's
not
the
change
in
those
maps
that
has
led
to
the
crisis
involving
rural
transit's
ability
to
provide
service.
It's
not
the
change.
In
the
maps
there
was
maybe
an
incremental
change,
a
tiny
change
in
the
maps
that
it
has
had
maybe
a
little
bit
of
an
impact
on
Rural
transit's
ability
to
provide
service,
but
the
real
difference
is
the
decision
by
indot
to
enforce
a
rule.
It's
always
been
on
the
books,
namely
it's
a
rule
about
a
rural
Transit
Agency
that
receives
5311
federal
funds.
X
And
because
it
hasn't
been
enforced,
rural
Transit
has
been
able
to
provide
rides
between,
for
example,
Ellisville
and
Walmart
on
the
west
side
of
Bloomington.
Both
of
those
are
in
the
urban
area
have
been
in
the
past.
They
shouldn't
have
been
able
to
provide
those
rides,
but
they
were
allowed
to
provide
those
rides
because
the
rule
wasn't
reinforced.
X
X
So
it's
not
the
increased
urbanization
of
Monroe
County
that
has
led
us
to
this
point
is
simply
an
administrative
bureaucratic
decision
by
indot
to
say:
nah,
we're
gonna
enforce
this
rule
strictly
now,
as
long
as
we're
talking
about
urban
area
and
I'm
going
to
have
to
wrap
up
sooner
than
I
wanted
to.
But
let
me
just
sum
up
by
saying
I
think
one
way
of
thinking
about
doing
this
is
that
what
you're
doing
is
you're
not
allowing
BT
to
provide
service.
I
P
This
ordinance
would
add
language
to
our
code,
so
it
would
take
another
ordinance
to
to
remove
that
language
and,
of
course
there
would
be
practical
impacts
once
services
are
offered
that
the
council
would
likely
want
to
consider.
But
I
don't
think
there
are
any
legal
reasons
why
the
council
couldn't
either
restrict
to
a
narrow
narrower
area
than
the
entire
County
or
or
make
changes
in
the
future.
P
D
E
A
M
I
appreciate
everyone's
commentary
tonight,
just
as
an
aside
I'm
eager
to
go
back
to
that
era
between
1973
1982
when
the
city
operated
its
own
bus
system.
Bt
has
only
ever
shown
us
ridership
numbers
since
it
was
founded
in
1982.
Many
of
us
remember:
Lou,
May's
annual
budget
chart
or
a
chart
during
the
budgets
showing
ridership
since
1982
and
they've.
M
He
crammed
every
year
on
and
Mr
Connell
is
still
having
that
the
cram
on
into
one
piece
of
paper,
but
the
question
of
rural
Transit
is
not
the
primary
motive
for
this
ordinance.
It's
not
the
most
significant
issue
here,
regardless
of
how
they
lost
their
revenue,
even
though
this
ordinance
would
benefit
that
people
served
by
them
too.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
no
one
is
making
a
mistake
here.
A
vote
for
this
ordinance
is,
among
other
things,
a
vote
for
a
more
urban
Monroe
County.
M
M
M
This
ordinance
is
a
decisive
step
toward
a
metropolitan
area
transit
service,
and
it
should
be
because
we
have
several
examples
of
residents
and
businesses
who
purposely
located
outside
the
city
limits
to
avoid
city
taxes.
We
shouldn't
be
subsidizing.
Those
businesses
Walmart,
is
a
good
prime
example,
but
there.
N
M
Other
examples,
if
you
want
the
city
to
stay
the
same,
you
shouldn't
vote
for
this.
If
you
want
the
County's
total
urbanized
area
to
stop
increasing,
you
probably
shouldn't
vote
to
expand
BT
service,
because
this
is
going
to
cause
the
metropolitan
area
to
grow
and
not
everyone
has
been
supportive
of
such
talk.
So
I
don't
have
any
Illusions
about
this
ordinance
being
a
perfect
ordinance
that
everyone
can
definitely
support,
because
it
will
have
consequences.
M
Y
I
know
Section
3
was
put
in
sort
of
at
the
request
of
the
mayor
or
at
a
Consul
in
response
to
a
concern
of
the
mayor
and
I
I.
Think
it's
okay,
I,
don't
exactly
like
that!
It
restricts
how
funding
gets
to
BT
in
the
future,
for
new
for
new
routes
or
anything
outside
of
the
of
the
city,
but
I'm
I'm,
okay
with
it
and
I,
think
it
is
something
that
we
could
change
if
we
need
to
I
would
like
to
just
say,
I
think,
maybe
over
time.
Y
If
we
are
starting
to
go
outside
of
Bloomington,
that
the
name
Bloomington
Transit
could
potentially
be
updated
or
changed,
because
I
think
just
the
name
Bloomington
Transit
really
makes
it
seem
like
we
are
responsible
for
paying
for
all
the
transit.
But
if
we
have
a
more
Regional
system
where
our
regional
Partners
need
to
buy
into
it
and
pay
for
the
expenses
of
the
services,
they're
getting
I,
guess
I
just
think
it
sounds
different
and
helps
folks
think
of
it
more
as
the
entire
region
where
we
live
instead
of
just
the
city
of
Bloomington
thanks.
O
O
B
B
I
I
B
N
A
G
B
Ordinance
2316
to
amend
Title
II
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code
entitled
animals
regarding
updating
and
harmonizing
chapters,
1
26,
40,
54
and
56
of
Title
II
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code.
The
synopsis
is
as
follows.
This
ordinance
makes
several
changes
to
Title
VII
of
the
Bloomington
municipal
code
to
reflect
current
and
best
practices,
update
the
dangerous
animal
definitions
at
a
deer.
Feeding,
ban
increase
the
amount
of
certain
fees
and
add
additional
time
to
the
appeals
process.
N
A
Next,
at
our
regular
session
on
August
16th
one
week
from
this
evening,
that
brings
us
to
our
second
of
two
periods
of
public
comment.
This
is
for
items
not
on
our
legislative
agenda.
If
there
are
any
folks
in
Council
who
would
like
to
in
Chambers
who
would
like
to
offer
comment,
please
approach
the
podium
Mr
Lucas.
Can
you
extend
our
invitation
on
Zoom?
Please.
P
A
X
Dave
asked
us
with
the
b-square
bulletin:
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
finish
up
our
remarks,
but
these
remarks
can
now
be
understood
in
the
context
of
the
future
negotiations
on
the
funding
mechanisms
that
will
result
from
the
ordinance
that
you
just
passed.
So,
if
you
think
about
the
urban
area,
there's
people
who
live
inside
the
urban
area,
but
outside
the
city
limits.
A
X
X
All
right,
so
as
long
as
we're
talking
about
the
urban
area,
there's
people
who
live
inside
the
urban
area,
but
outside
the
city
of
limits
and
this
rule
that
always
existed.
That
indot
now
has
decided
they
want
to
enforce
strictly
means
that
rural
Transit
can't
offer
rides
now
or
starting
January
1st
of
2024.
X
X
It's
a
function
of
urban
area
population,
so
BT
has
been
getting
about
28
percent
more
Federal
formula
funds
than
it
would
have
received
if
the
funding
had
been
calculated.
Just
based
on
city
population,
so
given
the
new
enforcement
of
the
rule
on
Rural
Transit
agencies,
one
way
to
think
about
this
is
that
BT
should
have
to
not
should
be
allowed
to,
but
should
have
to
provide
service
outside
the
city
of
Bloomington
if
it's
inside
the
urban
area.
X
P
No
items
to
mention
tonight
unless
members
have
questions
I,
I,
suppose
I
will
mention
the
work
session
that
the
council
scheduled
last
week
for
this
Friday
at
noon
in
the
McCloskey
room,
to
hear
from
County
colleagues
and
officials
on
their
effort
to
find
a
new
site
for
a
jail.
So
we
will
continue
with
that
as
scheduled
and
that's
all
I've
got.
P
A
V
I
have
a
couple
of
reasons
for
that
one
would
be
simply
to
have
a
census
of
how
many
bicycles
there
are.
Another
might
be
a
way
of
making
sure
that
cyclists
are
aware
of
all
the
rules
and
regulations
in
the
same
way
that
the
Assumption
of
drivers
passing
a
license.
Test
are
acquainted
with
the
rules
and
in
as
much
as
so
much
of
the
infrastructure
in
the
city
now
is
devoted
to
the
benefit
of
cyclists
that
it
would
be
good
to
to
have
them
licensed.