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Recorded
and
noted,
could
we
have
a
all
in
favor?
Please
say
I
have
approving
these
minutes.
D
Yes,
thank
you.
My
only
message
tonight
is
everybody
who
has
not
done
so
already.
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Couple
of
traffic
backups
on
third
and
staying
around
that's
takes
the
problem
back
for
us.
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However,
I
think
it's
going
to
know
to
contact
list
and
ask
them
for
a
response
on.
F
The
traffic
slow
down
on
the
track
backups
there
and
I
think,
probably
in
order
of
us
to
do
that.
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Title
ii,
the
staff
led
by
city
attorney
mike
rooker,
proposed
that
we
add
language
to
the.
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Parking
commission
allowing
for
alternates
and
the
reason
was
that
the
person
from
planning.
G
Other
meetings
to
attend
and
they
wanted
to
be
able
to
have
a
proxy
another
staff.
Member
named.
G
Interview
committee
c,
which
I
believe
is
council
members,
rallo,
sandberg
and
piedmont
smith-
saw.
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G
Commission
had
a
full
complement
of
people
and,
and
secondly,
it's
since
come
clear
from
the
reading.
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G
Situation
I
have
asked
for
several
changes,
namely
that
we
suspend
additional
interviews
for.
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G
Alternate
positions,
beef
are,
are
open,
it
can
be
filled,
I
mean
with,
but
until
the
council.
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G
Also,
I
eventually
want
to.
I
want
to
recommend
that
we
change
the
code
so
that.
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H
For
that
reminder,
the
next
thing
I
have
to
do
is
what
we
affectionately
call
the
ryzen
report.
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J
My
name
is
pedro
ramirez.
I
am
a
commissioner
with
the
commission
on
hispanic
and
latino
affairs.
J
Thing
here,
since
I
guess
I
know
we
have
lots
of
things
to
do,
but
I
do
again
appreciate
the.
A
A
That
today,
in
our
team
c
interview
committee
meeting,
we
heard
that
there
is
an
opening
on
the.
A
A
You
are
yes
actually,
this.
Last
this
month
we
were
able
to
have
two
new
members
to
add.
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J
J
J
J
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J
I
J
That
we
had
just
outside
the
these
these
doors
and
and
it
was
a
great
display
that
was
put
up.
J
J
J
I
know
one
of
the
things
when
we
discussed
this
in
our
meetings
is
we.
We
are
very
interested.
J
J
Not
going
to
do
it,
but
but
it's
great
to
see
them
involved
and
and
wanting
to
to
participate.
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K
The
time
of
the
memo
14
parties,
so
that
was
at
the
end
of
september,
about
possible
duplexes.
K
K
K
Had
one
additional
inquiry
and
that
petition
as
well
as
another,
are
both
on
upcoming
border.
K
Zoning
appeal
board
of
zoning
appeals
agendas,
so
our
second
and
third
requests.
K
And
we
have
also,
as
noting
for
the
adus,
we
have
received
four
adu
permit
filings
in
the
2022..
So.
K
A
Council
member
volan
yeah
just
to
clarify,
so
you
said
that
there
have
been
14
inquiries.
K
G
A
E
Here
but
I
know
we're
keeping
close
track
of
duplexes
and
people
who
request
any
information.
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K
K
So
we
could,
in
theory,
dig
up
that
information
to
find
the
conversions
going.
The
other
way.
L
K
I
think
in
recent
years
the
answer
would
probably
be
mostly
financing
initially,
when
they
were.
K
Of
process
things
that
needed
to
go
through
currently,
if
you
can
meet
the
code
requirements.
K
K
K
And
that
was
something
we
brought
to
you
all
in
our
annual
report
in
something
that
was
changed.
K
Saying
that
it's
the
financing
is
kind
of
just
a
guess.
On
my
part,
I
mean
we,
we
do
talk
to.
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K
Space
that
you
think
you
can
kind
of
utilize,
it
seems
to
be
an
issue
as
well.
Thank
you
thank.
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G
What
was
that
limit?
I
want
to
say
I'm
not
sure
there
was
a
limit,
I
wanted
to
say
it
was
30,
but.
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G
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A
Okay,
great
yeah,
well
yeah,
I'm
just
glad
to
hear
from
jennifer
crossley
and
yeah
some.
O
Comments,
but
I
wrote
up
a
thing
so
I'll
just
read
it
real
quick
if
you
could
state
your
name
is.
O
O
O
Five
plus
six
seven
hours
long
meeting
and
ask
something
clarifying
or
say
something
consoling.
O
O
But
I
don't
know
many
of
you
will
now
so
I
wanted
to
give
it
a
shot.
I'm
addressing
something.
O
That's
coming
up
before
you
in
the
coming
months.
That's
what
jennifer
referenced.
O
O
At
the
fullerton
pike
property-
and
I
I'm
grateful
to
hear
that
the
cjrc
is
is
not.
O
Fully
committed
in
that
direction,
yeah,
I
don't
have
time
to
explain
my
concerns
in
detail.
O
O
O
P
A
Zoom
before
we
have
the
next
chambers
commenter
yes,
next
on
zoom
is
renee
miller.
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Q
Q
And
mental
health
issues,
so
I
hope
to
see
some
of
the
people
here
from
the
city
council
in
those.
Q
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R
Run
for
precinct
committeeman
on
campus
and
charlotte
was
my
vice
committee,
woman.
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R
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A
A
A
Our
public
comment
this
evening,
madam,
madam
president,
mr
mg,
wouldn't
we
have
a
note
about.
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B
B
B
B
S
S
S
Than
arbitrarily
split
it
up
combine
them.
First,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
economic
development.
S
Commission
for
their
service,
including
council,
member
flaherty,
the
edc,
approved
the
economic.
S
S
S
A
I
just
we've
seen
a
few
of
these
are
economic
development.
I
want
to
thank
our.
T
T
T
T
T
Done
several
of
these,
as
I
mentioned,
some
of
them
through
the
rad
conversion
process
through.
T
City,
this
one
is
a
little
bit
different,
so
just
to
quickly
go
through
some
of
the
process
for
the.
T
Inducement
resolution
2201
this
went
then
to
country
view
applied
for
light
at
credits
which.
T
T
The
pilot,
the
payment
lieu
of
taxes
a
while
ago,
I
believe
it
was
in
2000,
maybe
in
2016.
I'm.
T
The
indiana
code,
and
just
this
year
january,
1st
effective
the
general
assembly
brought
back.
T
T
T
Under
the
the
y-tech
requirements,
and
then
it
basically,
it
fixes
the
amount
of
taxes
that
would.
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U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
And
I
want
to
say
2010
the
inception
of
our
service
coordinator
program,
the
housing
foundation.
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
We
have
as
part
of
the
investments
in
the
service
coordinator
program,
we
have
over
70.
U
Who,
unfortunately,
was
not
able
to
join
us
here
tonight,
so
we
have
an
executor,
an.
U
U
V
Well,
thank
you
for
having
me.
I
did
have
the
pleasure
of
talking
to
you
all
at
your
first.
V
Meeting
of
the
year-
yes,
I'm
very
short,
bring
it
down.
So
it's
nice
to
see
you
all
in
person.
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
W
W
And
why
it's
amazing
to
work
for
blake
in
2016?
I
moved
to
bloomington
in
2015.,
but
in
2016
I.
W
Started
a
work
at
the
shalom
center
and
it
was
through
friends
place.
It
was
a
prn
and
since
then,.
W
Also,
the
lead
supervisor
of
the
cove
winter
shelter
that
was
off
the
b-line
after
that,
and.
W
I
I
interviewed
for
the
position
and
I
got
to
position
and
then
to
a
great
success.
I.
W
Got
to
see
10
people
that
I
was,
I
was
used
to
seeing
sleeping
outside
doing
everything
else
and.
W
You
know
I'm
really
happy
to
report
that
they
they
aren't
surviving
they're
driving
right
now,.
W
W
Knew
that
were
houseless
beforehand
and
asking
how
to
register
to
vote
was
was
amazing,
so.
W
I'm
really
excited
to
be
a
part
of
this
very,
very
nervous
having
this
conversation
as
well,
but.
W
S
Affordable
housing
in
bloomington,
especially
in
that
part
of
town,
which
is
probably
going
to.
S
Proximity
to
a
lot
of
amenities
would
lead
that
in
that
direction,
glick
has
indicated
that.
S
So
it's
an
important
one
and
and
it's
critical
to
the
success
of
what
they
have.
S
S
About
three
million
dollars
over
the
course
of
30
years,
those
monies
that
we
would
otherwise.
S
S
Funding
the
social
services
programming
and
the
ongoing
maintenance
and
repairs.
S
And
and
manage
those
at
the
property.
So
when
we
assess
using
public
money
and
invest.
S
S
Of
new
housing
or
the
retention
of
old
housing
and
one
way
to
know
so,
we
have
the
housing.
S
S
S
Dollars
per
unit,
so
that's
taking
the
value
of
the
abatement
and
then
dividing
it
by
not
the.
S
S
That
was
twenty
thousand
dollars
per
unit,
so
this
is
less
than
that
southern
knoll
over
on
the.
S
West
side
of
town
was
about
sixteen
thousand
dollars
per
unit
in
terms
of
the
the
local.
S
S
So
all
this
to
say,
the
administration
recommends
the
both
the
both
ordinances.
A
Is
in
regard
to
the
the
renovations
and
the
wonderful
presentations
that
we've
heard.
A
A
G
Don't
mind
yeah,
and
I
do
see
that
we
have
assessor
sharp
here
with
us.
I
assume
you're
going.
A
A
For
being
here
so
yeah
I
mean
it's
just
about
the
pilot
so
just
to
to
dumb
it
down
for
me,
because.
G
Like
I'm
not
clear
on
it,
is
it
safe
to
say
that
they
would
have
had
to
pay
about
4.5
million.
G
S
We
are,
like
you,
said,
rolling
back
to
the
current
tax
liability
and
foregoing
that
increment.
That.
S
A
longer
period
of
time
which
ensures
you
know,
leverage
across
the
30-year
period,
but.
G
I
mean,
like
you,
didn't
you
know,
say:
well
they
have
to
pay
half
the
taxes
they
would.
If.
G
G
Fine,
I
just
just
trying
to
characterize
it,
make
sure
I
understand
fully
what
the
pilot
is.
G
D
Yes,
I
have
a
few
questions
wording
in
the
resolution,
so
they're,
probably
for
mr.
D
Allen,
since
this
is
all
legalese
so
we
need
to
find-
I
guess
in
the
whereas
clauses.
D
T
Yeah,
yes,
it
is
council,
member,
okay
and
then
along
those
same
lines.
I
I
think.
T
T
T
D
Title
36
36
article
one
etc
two
copies
of
the
financing
documents.
Oh
okay,
are.
D
On
file
office
of
the
city,
clerk-
okay-
that's
that's
fine!
I'm
sorry,
but
there
was
some.
D
D
The
purchasers
thereof
at
a
price,
not
less
than
97
percent.
So
what
role
does
the
clerk
actually.
T
T
Be
used
interchangeably
here
as
they
are
in
the
statute,
so
it's
it's
probably
more
accurate.
T
T
T
I
V
V
That
62
percent-
I
just
checked
it
yesterday
I
was
like
we
have
126
now
so
and
it's
it's.
V
Great,
it's
stable,
it's
good
for
them,
they're,
not
paying
more
than
30
percent
of
their
income.
V
V
A
I
actually
have
one
for
mr
taft
if
we
can
get
mr
taft
back
from
from
his
zoom
position.
A
Service
coordinator
period,
but
then
when
I
heard
that
there
were
206
units
for
one
person,
I.
A
A
A
Question
you
certainly
are
going
to
have
the
opportunity.
I
would
assume
to
make
referrals
to.
A
The
community
to
the
social
services
community,
with
respect
to
the
coordination
that
you'll.
W
That
I've
been
fortunate
enough
to
to
build
in
my
previous
positions.
So
that
being
said,
no.
A
W
Actually,
the
the
role
seems
to
be
somewhat
new
at
a
country
view
and
that
you
know
the.
W
Approachability
was
not
once
there
and
now
it
is,
and
so
working
with
the
the
guests
and
the.
W
The
residents
from
the
apartment
buildings,
it's
absolutely
fun-
to
reconnect
with.
W
Whatever
services
they
need
and
it's
something
that
I've
really
worked
with
hard
in
the
past.
A
A
Council,
member
smith,
I
think
I
have
one
broad
question:
how
does
this
type
of
project.
U
U
U
Change
out
the
residence
and
they
would
start
they
would
they
could
justify
a
rehab
if
they
were.
U
U
U
Asking
for
abatements
and
things
like
that,
and
I
always
wondered
truly
if
the
designating
body
or.
U
U
And
I
think
that
that
would
be
my
number
one
concern.
If
I
was
in
your
position
asking
that.
U
Question
or
you
know
being
approached
for
something
like
the
pilot
and
this
project.
U
U
Very
quickly
and
our
construction
costs
have
skyrocketed.
Just
last
week
we
got
an
increase.
U
In
our
construction
cost
that
we
are
penciling
this
property
now
to
zero
dollars,
so
we
have.
U
U
U
Sign
up
for
the
possibility
of
30
years
of
100
000
annual
deficits.
So
while
this
doesn't
directly.
U
Get
to
your
your
question
I
wanted
to.
I
wanted
to
bring
it
up
because
it's
related
to.
U
We're
going
to
do
a
tax
credit
here
and
we're
lucky
to
have
a
board.
That's
been
willing.
U
To
put
their
skin
in
the
game
to
that,
to
that
degree
we
have
not
asked
for
a
pilot
before.
U
And
this
is
the
the
first
one
and
it
like.
I
said
it
gets
us
to
penciling
at
a.
U
And
you've
heard
you've
heard
steve
talk
about
those.
So
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
drone
on.
U
A
little
bit
about
the
financials
there,
thank
you
for
responding
to
that.
I
appreciate
it.
G
W
Absolutely
yes,
family
dollar
is,
I
want
to
say,
less
than
a
three-fourths
of.
W
A
A
A
T
This
case
it
would
be
recorded,
there
would
be
the
recording
of
the
agreement
itself
would.
T
Act
as
the
debt
instrument
and
regardless
of
how
how
that
looks
in
the
legal
language.
T
Be
subordinate
to
the
the
node
issuer
of
the
bank
in
any
case,
in
any
scenario,
and
then
the
other.
T
T
Their
requirements
as
a
general
partner
in
the
limited
partnership
just
to
memorialize
the.
T
A
X
X
X
Of
assessment
here
with
me,
I'm
not
sure
how
much
you
all
know
what
we
do
as
the
assessor,
but.
X
X
X
X
X
X
Reserve
and
when
we
would
go
out
it
was
like
a
holiday.
I
cannot
explain,
they
were
so
excited.
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
It
was
a
it
was
a
not
a
great
apartment,
complex
once
again,
police
fire
ambulance,
constant.
You
know.
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
A
Or
comments
and
again
we
will
take
ordinance
22-28
first
before
we
move
on
to
the
pilot.
G
G
Comprehensive
wrap
around
public
services
and
private
amenities.
I
mean
this
sounds
like.
G
G
More
like
this,
and
it's
just
too
bad
that
we
can't
as
public
entities
because
we're
limited.
G
G
D
Tonight
and
I'm
very
pleased
to
support
glick
in
this
in
this
effort
to
keep
country
view.
D
Affordable,
I
think
that's
it's
such
an
important
piece
of
our
affordable
housing
puzzle
here.
D
In
in
the
city
and
just
to
add
to
the
the
supermarket
question,
I
know
that
many.
F
A
A
A
B
B
A
B
B
A
Now
we
will
entertain
any
more
questions
if
anybody
has
them,
but
we
have
kind
of
exhausted.
D
Yes,
I
want
to
ask
what
the
impact
of
a
pilot
is
on
other
taxing
units.
T
D
Thousand
dollars,
and
it
would
still
be
doled
out
in
proportion
like
any
other
property
tax.
M
A
G
G
A
I
do
believe
it's
it's
something
that
is
a
community
benefit
for
sure,
happy
to
support
it.
A
B
B
L
L
A
A
A
L
L
Of
of
staff's
input
on
the
ordinance,
which
is
a
little
surprising,
given
the
the
recommendation.
L
Of
a
majority
of
council
members
and
committee
members,
so
I
was
curious
what
staff
had
to.
L
G
That
it
needs
to
be
moved
to
adopt
unless
there's
another
motion
that
a
member
wants.
G
G
Forward
to
but
mr
flaherty
traditionally
with
committee
reports,
we
have
done
that.
I
believe.
L
L
A
H
H
A
A
M
Here,
first,
just
to
address
councilmember
flaherty's
point
or
our
local
code
calls
for.
M
M
M
M
Their
attendance
not
to
say
that
they
couldn't
have,
but
I
don't
believe
anyone
asked
them
to.
L
L
M
Stated
that
his
position
was
laid
out
in
the
well,
I
shouldn't
say
he,
I
believe,
a
different.
M
A
Are
we
ready?
Are
we
ready
to
proceed?
Yes,
thank
you.
Why
don't
we
begin
with
the
sponsors
council.
I
C
Is
ordinances
co-sponsored
by
councilmember,
sandberg
and
smith
and
I'll
just
briefly
make
it.
C
A
little
introduction
and
then
pass
it
over
to
stephanie
hatton,
who
has
an
excellent
presentation.
C
Stop
at
the
intersection
of
sheridan,
road
and
and
maxwell
lane
it
is
resident
initiated.
I
find
it.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
So
let
me
now
just
introduce
stephanie
hatton,
who
is
a
resident
close
by
she
lives
adjacent
to.
Y
Y
Those
of
you
who
know
her
know
she
is,
I
am
originally
from
bloomington.
I.
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
If
we
look
at
our
neighborhood
and
we
see
the
technical,
north-south
and
east-west.
Y
Y
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
demographics.
I'm
looking
at
a
48
number.
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
And
I
will
mention
grade
just
in
reference
to
speed
bumps,
there's
no
federal
standard
for.
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
And
I
hope
over
the
coming
slides
that
I
might
ask
you
to
reconsider
those
characterizations.
Y
Y
To
cross
south
again,
the
hill
prohibits
really
prohibits
that
safe
crossing.
Y
Line
on
sheridan,
as
well
as
the
crosswalk,
because
it
has
faded.
Y
Y
Y
We
deserve
to
cross
the
road
safely.
Stopping
traffic
creates
a
safe
crossing
point.
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
I
C
C
A
A
F
Thank
you.
I
I
just
as
a
as
a
co-sponsor
I
drove
out
to
the
intersection
today.
F
F
Drove
by
about
50
miles
an
hour,
there
were
about
eight
or
ten
pedestrians.
A
couple
bikes.
F
F
F
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Presented
on
but
all
of
those
metrics
were
not
met.
There
is
no
reported
crashes
at
this.
Z
So
back
to
the
to
the
word
of
of
safe,
you
know:
is
this
intersection
unsafe?
That's.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
We
get
a
lot
of
requests
for
things
across
the
city
and
to
be
mindful
of
what
the
what
the.
Z
Other
location
that
we
get
in
the
city,
so
I've
actually
spoke
a
lot
more
than
I
was
expecting.
Z
L
Council
member
flaherty,
can
you
pull
your
mic
a
little
closer?
We
have
some
trouble
hearing.
L
Was
hoping
to
get
clarification
from
mr
seabor
one
was.
There
was
a
slide.
L
Z
Z
Z
L
Okay,
thank
you
and
a
related
follow-up
on
the
point
of
what's
the
term
of
art,
let
me.
L
Z
There's
potential
intersection
configurations
where
certain
left
turn
maneuvers
just
cannot.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
H
Response
either
in
support
or
not
support
of
this
legislation,
sure
good
direct
question.
Z
And
it's
one
that
I
guess
to
be
fair
with
miss
hatton
and
others.
I've
I've
tried
to
indicate.
Z
A
A
A
But
would
it
be
less
safe
with
a
four-way
stone?
That's
a
very
fair
question
to
ask
and
when.
Z
I
just
am
nervous
to
answer
knowing
that
there
have
been
no
reported
crashes.
What
is.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Certainly
sympathy
if
there
have
been
crashes
like
that
is,
I
guess
it's
just
a
good,
maybe.
C
This
through
email
that
you
you
had
your
concern,
that
of
the
potential
short-term.
C
C
C
Essentially
indicate
to
people
who
are
accustomed
to
just
going
through
that.
That's.
D
Yes
is
mr
robinson
on
the
call,
because
I
have
a
question
about
the
the
neighborhood.
D
Traffic
calming
program
that
goes
through
the
department
of
planning
and
transportation.
D
Was
actually
not
not
the
preferred
way
to
go,
but
if,
if
the
residents
were.
AA
S
can
everybody
hear
me,
this
is
scott
robinson,
director
of
planning
and
transportation.
D
Yes,
yeah
thanks
for
the
question
that
is
accurate
with
the
resident-led
traffic.
AA
AA
D
So-
and
maybe
ms
haddon
can
speak
to
this
too
so.
AA
Been
involved
with
it,
our
former
staff
member
has
resigned
and
was
involved
in
that
she
moved.
AA
On
to
a
different
position,
but
that's
my
recollection
of
what
happened
with
that
request.
Y
Out
of
those
48
affected
household
units,
that
map
came
from
mallory
rick
bile,
who
was
previously.
Y
Y
Could
have
done
that
very
easily,
but
it
became
apparent
very
soon
after
I
started
the
initiative.
Y
Reasons
they
gave
me
for
not
wanting
traffic
calming
devices,
and
I
will
note
that.
Y
Solely
meant
vertical
deflection,
so
any
kind
of
speed,
bump,
hump,
cushion,
etc.
That
was.
Y
Y
Next
year,
when
the
cycle
is
reopened-
and
we
we
just
didn't
feel
that
this
was
something
we
wanted.
Y
Y
D
May
I
ask
one
other
follow-up
to
mr
robinson:
I'm
a
bit
surprised
to
hear
that
vertical.
D
Impediments
were
the
only
suggestion
given
because
I
know
in
different
parts
of
the.
AA
AA
Available
type
to
consideration,
so
I
would
say
that
it's
not
out
of
the
realm
to
consider
those.
AA
Quickly
deliverable
improvements
when
you
start
dealing
with
other
things
that
you
mentioned.
AA
Again,
we're
trying
to
look
at
improvements
that
wouldn't
take
a
significant
amount
of
resources
to.
AA
Implement,
certainly
not
out
of
the
question
in
a
broader
sense,
all
right.
Thank
you.
Y
And
in
terms
of
cost,
I
think
that's
that
vertical
deflection
has
been
referred
to
as
a
kind.
Y
There
was
another
resident-led
traffic
calming
program
that
I
think.
Y
E
Your
presentation,
I
think
this
question
will
be
for
mr
seabor.
I
was
just
looking
at
the
map
and.
E
So
I
mean
I
can
understand
the
idea
of
wanting
to
stop
traffic.
I
think
in
general.
E
E
Up
from
maxwell
to
first
street,
how
would
this
stop
sign
impact
that
intersection?
Would
it.
E
Z
Z
Intersection
four
blocks
away,
but
it
gets
more
to
the
question
of
why
one
intersection
and
not.
E
E
Can
I
follow
up
what
was
that
go
ahead?
I
guess
one
thing
that
concerns
me
from
the
engineering.
E
E
Z
L
L
I'm
picturing
something
we've
done
a
little
bit
here
in
bloomington
and
something
I've
seen.
L
I
was
just
in
baltimore
and
dc
area.
Last
week
I
saw
a
lot
of
this
in
in
dc.
L
L
Of
safe
crossing,
but
also
calming
traffic
by
narrowing
having
you
know
vertical.
L
Z
Z
Z
Z
AA
AA
We're
trying
to
explore
ways
to
look
at
longer
term
solutions.
Certainly,
we've
discussed
it.
I
know.
AA
Aesthetics
is
pretty
important
and
we
get
a
lot
of
concerns
from
people
not
liking.
To
look.
AA
G
But
I'm
going
to
start
with
mr
seabor.
One
thing
I
noted
when
I
visited
the
intersection
was.
G
Z
Z
Material
there's
paint
that
will
not
last
as
long
and
then
there's
thermoplastic,
which
can
be.
Z
Z
Department
perspective
division
is
it's
also
a
capacity
issue
of
of
how
many
devices
we
have
and.
G
Z
Intersection,
okay,
all
right
now,
I
understand
that
stop
signs
themselves
aren't
particularly.
G
Expensive
but
mr
rallo
began
to
talk
about
and
you
actually
talked
about
the
additional.
G
Stop
signs,
especially
in
the
short
term,
changing
traffic
patterns.
How
much
more
this
is
this.
Z
G
G
G
West
of
mitchell,
until
swain,
can
you
please
tell
us
more
about
this
project
and
why.
G
You
implemented
it
yeah.
I
would
love
to
honestly
so
the
intersection
of
third
and
swain
so
not.
Z
Z
Z
Z
G
Z
Z
Z
G
L
The
engineering
report
about
a
four-way
stop
being
on
an
unwarranted
stop
sign
here
and
we've.
L
Know
lots
of
lots
of
aggregate
data,
so
you
know,
potentially
this
false
sense
of
security
of
folks.
L
Room
briefly,
which
is
the
tendency
to
speed
up
immediately
after
stop
signs
that
are
perceived.
L
By
drivers
to
be
unnecessary
and
so
yeah
we've
talked
about
these
in
other
contexts
and.
L
Why
I've
been
interested
in,
for
instance,
stop
signs
or
reversing
the
stop
signs
at
washington.
L
And
lincoln
along
the
allen
street
greenway
to
prioritize
that
direction
of
flow.
For
you
know.
L
These
reasons,
so
I
wonder
if
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
that
phenomenon,
those
those.
Z
Z
But
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
stop
control,
stop
signs
in
the
city,
some
that
are
always
stop.
Some.
Z
Together
to
identify
what
options
might
be,
but
we
also
get
a
lot
of
concerns
where
there.
Z
Z
Z
Of
when
we
put
something
in
for
for
drivers,
there's
psychology
to
it
that
you
know
if.
L
Missed
some
discussion
about,
and
I
apologize
if
that
was
the
case
of
folks,
speeding.
L
Z
Z
To
school
and
they're
they're
speeding,
so
that
that
is
a
phenomenon
I
don't
have.
Z
C
C
C
C
Z
Z
Z
C
C
G
G
For
one
of
the
apparently
least
expensive
and
least
invasive
changes,
but
what
would
it
take
to.
G
Z
Z
Z
Not
have
a
hill,
but
that's
not
realistic
right.
So
so
that's
one
thing
I
mean
just
how
big
do.
Z
You
want
me
to
think
here,
but
I
think
you
know.
Ideally
we
would
have
more
sidewalks
in
the
city.
G
Z
Yeah
I
mean
just
knowing
so
there's
sidewalk
on
the
north
side
of
the
road.
There's
no
sidewalk.
Z
Z
G
I
AA
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
Oh
okay,
can
you
hear
me
yeah,
okay,
yeah,
the
prior.
AA
Traffic
neighborhood
traffic
safety
program
was
largely
ineffective
from
a
kind
of
grassroots.
AA
Citizen
input
process
there
were
many
steps
in
the
process.
I
can't
remember
how
many
steps.
AA
Were
talking
about
that
kind
of
deals
with
both
the
resident-led
process
and
a
staff-led.
AA
AA
The
pro
installations
a
year,
so
that's
kind
of
overall
the
big
picture
of
the
differences.
AA
Of
what
it
used
to
be
and
what
it
is
now,
it's
not
perfect,
but
it's
certainly
a
an
improvement
of.
AA
AA
Little
bit
to
the
question
that
you
answered
to
andrew
on
the
cost
of
the
prior
improvements.
AA
AA
AA
AA
Talking
about
all
those
decisions
do
cost
a
lot
when
you
start
talking
about
underground.
AA
Infrastructure
utilities
impacts
to
people's
property.
I
believe
we
had
to
acquire
property.
G
That
I
was
going
to
ask
later,
but
why
war
was
striping
the
street
for
parking
not
implemented.
AA
I
actually
believe
it
did
at
one
point
was
tried,
but
there
was
nobody
that
ever
parked
there.
AA
The
street
it
also
it
just
goes
back
to
the
maintenance
of
paint
on
the
road.
AA
AA
It's
based
on
improvements
that
we
could
easily
install
that
don't
typically
trigger
conflicts.
AA
AA
Other
chicanes,
you
know,
curb
extensions,
those
sort
of
things
that
takes
a
little
bit.
Z
Z
I
I
Okay,
see
no
objections
to
that.
Let
us
move
to
public
comment
for
a
quick
show
of
hands.
M
Yes,
happy
to
do
that
see
two
hands
up
already.
If
there
are
members
of
the
public
on
zoom,
they.
M
M
M
I
Any
objections
seeing
none,
let's
go
ahead
with
that.
Please,
if
you
would
please
approach
the.
AB
AB
AC
AC
AC
P
AD
AD
Presentation
in
the
neighborhood
bringing
forth
all
these
issues
when
I
first
heard.
AD
They
come
down
big
hills,
it's
absolutely
terrifying,
because
people
run
them
and.
AD
AD
Things
that
come
with
a
busy
four-way
intersection.
I
think
it
is
a
challenging
intersection.
AD
AD
I
I
Ms
virginia's
new
ipad
welcome.
Please
confirm
your
name
for
the
record
and
then.
I
You'll
have
two
minutes
virginia
metzger.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
thank
you.
Please
go
ahead.
Oh
okay,.
AE
I
live
at
837,
south
sheridan
drive.
My
house
is
just
three
houses
north
of
the
intersection.
AE
AF
Wouldn't
have
crashed
into
the
culvert
below
eagleson
going
down
the
hill,
so
there's
all.
AF
That
is
an
actual
accident
that
I've
witnessed.
I
also
have
walked
a
lot
in
the
neighborhood.
AF
M
I
Your
name
for
the
record
and
then
you'll
have
two
minutes.
Yes,
it's
hunter
rackley
r-a-c-k-l-e-y.
AG
And
I
apologize,
I
just
started
losing
my
voice
today,
so
I
hope
it
will
hold
out.
While
I
speak.
AG
So
I
live
at
the
intersection
of
maxwell
and
mitchell.
Just
a
couple
houses
down
from.
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
So
I
evaluate
lots
of
data
on
a
regular
basis.
Mr
directly,
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
you're.
I
At
times
so,
could
you
please
wrap
up
your
comments?
Yes,
I
will
thank
you,
but
even
though
I'm
a
data.
AG
AG
I
AH
So
I
lived
there
two
years
and
I've
looked
at
my
current
location
three
years
so
five
six
years.
AH
Total
the
moment
I
moved
into
the
neighborhood,
I
determined
pretty
quickly
that
that
was
very.
AH
AH
AH
AH
AH
M
AI
Okay
thanks,
my
name
is
natalia
galvin.
I
met
stephanie
hatton
last
february
during
her.
AI
Advocacy
on
the
stop
sign
effort
in
constituent
meeting
and
I'm
here
to
fully
support
her
tonight.
AI
AI
AI
AI
AI
AI
I
AJ
AJ
That
are
relevant.
One
is
that
the
students
have
moved
off
campus
into
the
city,
and
the
other
is.
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
Mr
bingamir,
at
time,
if
you
could
finish
up
all
right,
so
the
final
point
is
yes.
I've
heard.
AJ
AJ
AK
Yeah,
my
name
is
william
coulter.
I
live
in
park
avenue
between
first
and
university.
AK
For
reasons
that
other
people
have
already
covered
very
well
and
for
serious
about.
AK
AK
AK
I
AL
On
the
northeast
corner
of
maxwell
and
sheridan,
we
I
live
with
my
family.
We
have
five
children.
AL
AL
AL
AL
AL
AL
AL
M
Q
Q
Found
for
between
thirty
and
fifty
dollars
a
piece.
The
only
issue
I
have
with
those
is
they're.
Q
Unsightly,
but
they
are
not
that
expensive
and
a
stop
sign
also
would
be
helpful.
Thank
you.
I
I
Have
two
minutes
welcome
yes,
good
evening
good
evening,
council
members,
I
just
want
to
say.
AM
AM
AM
I
AN
AN
AN
M
Yes,
next
on
zoom
is
betty
rose,
nagel.
AO
AO
Stop
the
resident
who
led
this
proposal,
put
it
in
incredible
amount
of
time
and
effort
and
met.
AO
AO
AO
AO
AP
AP
AP
AP
AP
Desperately
need
proactive
safety
heck,
we
need
reactive
safety.
Some
of
these
intersections
are.
AP
Repeat:
offenders?
We
need
them
to
feel
like
they
have
or
we
need
our
engineers
to
take
this.
AP
AP
AP
I
I
AQ
AQ
AQ
We've
heard
from
many
people
that
in
our
neighborhood
I
live
in
that
neighborhood.
That.
AQ
AQ
AQ
AQ
AQ
AQ
AR
AR
I
E
Robinson
too,
just
speaking
a
lot
of
public
commenters
about
the
time
and
the
resources
for.
E
E
E
Assume
pretty
cheap
compared
to
other
options,
so
I
guess
my
question
is
that
is
that
still.
Z
Z
I
Additional
questions:
council,
member
voland
seabor,
one
of
the
public
commenters
talked
about.
G
An
intersection
yeah,
we
we
look
at
what
our
likely
police
generated
crash
reports,
so
we're.
Z
Z
Installed
this
week,
but
I
do
recognize
that
it
took
some
time
I
I
can't
remember
what
the
cost.
Z
Z
G
Z
Ordinance
had
a
number
of
signs
at
a
number
of
locations.
I
can't
recall,
like
it's,
maybe
40
or
80,.
Z
G
You
know
the
limitations
you
face
there.
I
mean
why
can't
you
give
the
good
people
of
sheridan.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
G
I
Questions
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
So
when
I
visited
the
intersection,
the
biggest
argument
for
me,
why.
G
G
Warrants
not
meriting
crashes
there
I
mean
at
least,
if
there's
a
stop
sign.
Somebody
knows
that.
G
Z
Z
Z
On
its
own,
I
guess
that's
my
first,
that's
just
so.
In
other
words,
to
restate
what
you're
saying
is.
G
For
a
little
bit
more
broadly
about
your
obligation,
I
mean
many
many
people
said.
G
That
way,
because
you
have
I
mean
why
is
it
not
about
making
this
one
intersection
safer.
Z
Z
Z
No
matter
how
fast
anybody's
driving
we
would
just
never
have
on-street
parking
anywhere.
We.
Z
Would
the
implications
are
significant
so
needing
to
have
something
some
criteria
that.
Z
Z
G
G
C
Wouldn't
bring
it
could
tame
the
intersection,
but
we're
talking
about
many
hundreds
of
thousands.
G
C
I
I
didn't
invite
mr
seaboard,
it's
true.
I
assumed,
because
this
was
an
ordinance.
C
That,
if
mr
seaport
or
mr
lucas
has
anything
else
to
add,
I
think
it
was
just
an
assumption
that.
C
C
C
C
L
Several
other
residents
were
here
this
evening
on
a
number
of
times.
L
L
L
And
process
and
the
other
related
to
safety.
So
there
was
a
fair
amount
of
discussion.
L
L
L
Engineering
classes,
it's
been
a
while,
I
don't
feel
qualified
to
substitute
my
judgment.
For
mr.
L
Seabors
on
matters
of
of
traffic
safety
and
control,
we
heard
a
number
of
comments
about.
L
L
I
think
that's
right,
I
agree,
but
so
too
traffic
engineering
is
not
in
fact
intuitive.
L
Type
of
decision
about
when
to
disregard
the
guidelines
that
are
established
in
the
mutcd
and.
L
By
other
professional
associations
so
just
to
review,
you
know
a
few
of
the
concerns.
L
L
L
L
Further
away
from
the
stop
sign
on
the
same
street,
it
it's
sort
of
been
suggested
that.
L
L
L
L
But
a
different
path,
which
is
that
council
member
rosenberg,
saw
a
demonstrated
safety
issue
with.
L
L
L
L
Fact
she
worked
with
them
to
find
a
solution
that
they
thought
was
in
the
best
interest
of
the.
L
To
approach
achieving
a
solution
that
has
the
the
professional
support
of
of
the
engineers.
L
L
E
This
up
many
many
months
ago,
when
miss
hatton
first
came
to
talk
to
me
about
this.
I
said
yes.
E
E
Additional
stop
signs
and
it
bothers
me
that
an
idea
that
you
know
the
studies
show
stop
signs.
E
E
E
I
am
a
big
fan
of
vision,
zero,
which
is
having
a
city
goal
that
no
traffic
death
is
acceptable.
E
E
E
D
D
Also,
after
the
stops
after
somebody
stops,
that
seems
to
be
a
documented
phenomenon
as
well.
D
Here
and
that
miss
hatton,
who
I
thank
very
much
for
her
advocacy
and
I'm
very
impressed
with.
D
Not
every
neighborhood
has
a
manhattan
and
they
shouldn't
have
to
have
one.
So
it's.
D
Local
dollars
all
that
said,
I
am
very
familiar
with
this
intersection.
I
grew
up.
D
Need
to
be
done
and
I'm
afraid
if
we
don't
do
something
with
a
stop
sign,
then
it's
going.
I
H
H
H
H
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
I
I
I
Issues
within
the
district
I
represent,
and
that
is
exactly
the
kind
of
activity
and
and.
I
I
I
also
do
want
to
note
the
absence
of
a
formal
fiscal
impact
statement.
I
do
notice.
I
I
With
what
I've
heard
tonight,
ideally,
I
think
this
ordinance
would
have
included
one,
and
I
do.
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I've
heard
we've
all
heard
a
lot
tonight
about
safe,
is
this
safe?
Can
we
make
this.
I
Or
or
a
cyclist
in
an
accident,
we
can't
get
guarantees
and-
and
I
I
understand
that.
B
I
AP
A
You
know
we
are
past
the
10
30..
I
don't
know
if
anybody
wants
to
invoke
that,
but
if
we
this
is
an.
A
About
it,
so
could
we
at
this
point
talk
about
a
motion
to
postpone
or
do
we
have
to
take
it
off.
M
I
will
note
the
petitioner
michael
cordero
from
peerless
properties
is
on.
The
call
has
been.
M
Waiting,
I
believe,
peerless
properties
has
a
proposal
related
to
this
item
on
the
public.
M
M
He's
on
the
call
and
can
speak
to
the
impact
of
the
delay
of
this
item
beyond
tonight,
but.
M
M
Got
lined
up
following
tonight
with
the
board
of
public
works.
All
right,
mr
cordero.
Are
you
there.
M
Him
co-host
he
should
now
be
able
to
unmute
and
enable
video
if
needed,.
AS
Hello
good
evening,
everybody
thank
you
for
hearing
our
matter
again.
AS
Which
would
be
the
next
step
in
this
process
after
tonight's
hopeful?
You
know,
hopefully.
AS
Positive
vote
from
the
council
members.
We
would
be
going
to
the
board
of
public
works.
AS
To
offer
to
dedicate
the
new
right-of-way,
so
that
would
be
for
discussion
on
the
seventh.
AS
AS
And
I
guess
shift
the
whole
process
down
until
we
could
be
on
the
city
council
agenda.
All.
M
That
that
event,
the
council
president,
could
schedule
it
again
for
a
later
meeting
again
in.
B
B
B
B
AT
AT
AT
AT
AT
AT
AT
AT
Want
to
preface
my
remarks
first,
that
I
am
not
condemning
the
city's
award-winning
parks.
AT
AT
Shall
see
tonight
some
visual
examples
that
do
not
do
the
wonder
of
this
great
city
next
slide.
AT
So
we
look
a
little
bit
there
at
some
planters
and
some
plants
and.
AT
AT
Weeds
around
there
the
one
planter
looks
nothing
like
a
curb,
while
the
other
one
does
look.
AT
At
a
cross
at
a
at
a
stop
light,
looks
a
little
bit
better,
but
still
a
little
drab
and.
AT
AT
AT
AT
Of
there
and
blah
next
one
just
a
note
on
these,
which
these
were
taken
in
june
of
2020.
So.
AT
AT
AT
Is
the
county
building
the
the
current
site
of
the
judicial
center
and
the
right
one?
We
see.
AT
AT
Is
a
full
one?
Next
slide
there
we
have,
and
this
is
cfc's
properties
where
now
they're.
AT
Not
using
some
native
species,
but
they
are
using,
but
they
are
using
some
great
color
and
that.
AT
Is
on
the
on
the
south
side
of
the
square,
so
I
wanted
to
use
that
as
an
example.
Now
the
one.
AT
On
the
left,
in
fairness
is
from
last
month
next
slide.
Now
there
we
have
our
sister
city,
palo
alto,.
AT
Hope
those
on
that
trip
look
at
palo
alto,
who
has
put
some
investment
into
the
beautification.
AT
Creed
funds
on
number
nine
922
on
your
budget
schedule.
It
has
a
balance
of
10.5
million
dollars.
AT
AT
To
invest
it
back
and
I
believe
beautification
is,
that
is
where
to
put
those
monies,
so
I
don't.
AT
AT
A
A
A
C
I
move
that
we,
we
cancel
the
committee
of
the
whole
meeting
for
november
november,
9th
9th
second.
A
Moved
and
seconded,
let's
any
discussion
on
that,
then
let
us
all
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
aye,
all
right.
A
G
A
M
In
in
holding
that
work
session,
there
are
several
items
that
may
be
ready
too.
I
know
of.
M
M
M
Of
legislation
are,
are
nearing
their
nearing
being
ready
for
council
consideration
director.