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What
what
happened
on
monday,
11
14
22?
We
met
a
regularly
scheduled
meeting.
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Petitions
robert
shaw
on
prow
road
was
a
pud.
It's
continued
to
the
12th
of
december
meeting.
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And
the
cutters
115
east
kirkwood
is
also
continue
to
december
12th
petitions
that
that
we.
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Heard
the
one
that's
probably
on
most
people's
minds
is
the
detention
center.
We
heard
that
we.
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A
very
robust
and
thorough
discussion,
so
there
was
different
questions.
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Bicycles
and
pedestrians,
and
that
didn't
meet
the
comprehensive
plan
guiding
document.
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I
went
out
and
had
a
site
visit
with
council
member
volin.
Was
there.
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And
council
member
piedmont
smith
was
was
also
there
a
couple
weeks
ago.
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So
we
we
talked
about
it
and
had
great
discussion.
I
asked
a
second
question.
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Exactly
the
the
score,
the
vote
on
it,
but
it
was
passed
pause
with
a
positive
recommendation.
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D
Of
time,
there's
there's
some
time
limits
on
our
deliberation,
so
we
are
going
to
take
up.
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And
it
is
around
surrounds
the
hopewell
area
and
it's
on
that
side
of
town
and
it.
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Notes
allowed,
and
so
I
I
will
offer
myself
for
any
questions
from
my
esteemed
colleagues.
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F
Thank
you.
Madam
president,
I
wanted
to
report
from
the
monroe
county,
solid.
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F
Support
staff
position
so
a
little
more
technical
and
just
supporting
existing
programs.
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Host
fee
agreement
with
republic
services
will
expire,
a
host
fee
is
currently
2.75
cents
that.
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F
2023
.,
so
that'll
change
the
game
as
far
as
waste
processing
as
well.
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G
Thank
you
just
a
brief
report
to
note
that
my
regular
monthly
constituent
meetings
on
third.
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Monday
of
the
month
will
will
next
be
held
on
this
coming
monday
november,
21st
at
5,
30
pm.
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C
Thank
you
I
like
likewise,
would
like
to
announce
council,
presidents,
sandberg
and
my
monthly.
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H
To
you
tonight
will
contain
information
about
where
we
are
with
different
projects
and
things.
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H
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H
H
H
H
H
H
H
Are
reaching
their
final
stages
here
in
in
bloomington,
so
we're
working
with
them
and
I'll.
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H
H
H
Bans
as
we
call
them,
which
are
the
you
know,
the
percentages
by
10.
What
sort
of
income
are
the.
H
Folks
living
in
those
units
making-
and
so
this
shows
you
quite
a
bit
in
the
60
area,
median.
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H
H
H
So
for
housing,
security
heading
home
of
south
central
indiana,
you
received
a
report
from
from.
H
This
effort,
which
all
of
you
know,
but
it's
an
important
reminder
in
my
third
bullet
point.
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H
Of
the
rent
you
pay,
if
you're
in
a
registered
rental,
it
is
subject
to
inspection.
Every
three.
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H
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H
H
In
in
our
neighborhoods
about
when
students
live
there
and
how
do
you
sort
of
coexist
and.
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Make
sure
everybody's
working
together
the
bha
bloomington
housing
authority,
landlord
risk.
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H
H
H
On
record,
here's
here's
some
backup
money,
here's
an
insurance
policy,
if
you
will
to
help.
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H
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H
H
To
increase
that
program
through
by
through
starters,
partnerships
with
the
realtors
and
the.
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H
So
ami
area,
median
income,
is
an
important
important
term
that
we
use
it's
created.
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H
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H
H
When
you
take
that
that
spent
divided
by
the
units-
that's
three
thousand
three
hundred
and
ten.
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H
The
per
unit
range,
and
so
this
is
well
below
what
we
normally
would
grant
out,
and
so
I.
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H
H
H
Two
projects
that
that
is,
that
is
coming
up
on
and
then
our
program
intention
for
the
some
of.
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H
H
Are
appropriated
for
2022,
we
may
come
back
for
some
of
that
next
year.
This
is
made.
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H
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H
H
H
H
Development
community,
on
an
ongoing
basis,
we're
probably
having
three
to
four
conversations:
a.
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H
Let's
keep
talking
and
they
want
to
build
some
they're
interested
in
housing.
There's
a
lot
of.
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Have
a
good
allocation
plan
for
that
submitted
to
the
housing
and
urban
development
department.
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It's
actually
very,
very
close
to
100
occupancy,
there's
turnover
of
units,
and
one
realtor
told
me.
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F
Yes,
I
wanted
to
ask
about
the
ed
lit
funds
so
on
one
of
your
slides,
you
had
the
housing.
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H
What's
appropriated
for
edie
lit
to
our
housing
efforts,
I
should
say
so.
The
idea
there
is
to.
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H
Forty
six
thousand
in
the
I'm
just
pulling
it
up
here
as
well:
the
one
million
forty
six
thousand.
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000
that
would
go
into
the
housing
development
fund,
as
well
as
helping
pay
for
the
new.
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I
This
has
to
do
with
the
revolving
loan
fund
and
I'm
not
so
sure
I
really
understand.
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I
I
think
I
was
asking
about
cdfi
yeah,
where
it
fits
in
at
all
so
cdfi
friendly
bloomington.
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J
Seen
so
far
sure
well
I'll,
say
first
that
we
are
very
grateful
for
our
federal
funding,
but.
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H
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H
H
Is
a
great
sort
of
marketing
tool
if
you
own
we're
talking
to
the
development
community
and.
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H
J
And
may
I
follow
up
with
one
more
question:
thank
you
for
that
and
and
one
one
particular
tool.
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I've
always
been
interested
in
is
the
landlord
risk
mitigation
fund
because
of
the
way
the.
J
What
have
you
seen
on
that
this
year?
How
much
of
that
have
we
expended
who
has
been.
H
The
process
we'd
hoped
to
get
staff
are
on
board
sooner,
and
so
we
set
up
that.
We've
had
an.
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H
H
I
think
it's
a
great
it's
a
to
me.
It's
a
very
innovative
way
to
say
how
do
we
we've
got.
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H
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H
Of
you
know,
that's
always
kind
of
riding
over
over
your
head,
and
so
when
you
look
at
what
makes.
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It
hard
for
people
to
stay
in
their
home
or
to
get
a
place
to
live.
Something
like
landlord.
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H
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C
So
you,
you
essentially
get
a
report
from
the
board
of
realtors.
That's
self-reported
from
the.
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H
Living
in
them,
which
is
a
whole
separate
problem,
we
have
a
close
partnership
with
the
apartment.
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We
and
those
tenants
are
going
to
be
displaced.
We
gathered
a
listing
of
apartments
in
town.
H
The
very
best
we
could-
and
I
want
to
make
a
note
about
housing
navigation
here
as
well,
but.
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H
C
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H
D
Oh,
thank
you.
Thanks
for
the
report,
mr
zody.
D
You're
doing
a
lot
of
great
work
in
in
the
hand,
department
and
hand
department's
always.
D
Been
doing
great
work,
so
I
appreciate
it.
How
does
our
compare
our
affordability
unit
percentage.
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D
A
some
kind
of
way
for
us
to
understand
is:
are
we
doing
okay
in
bloomington?
Are
we
not
doing
okay.
D
Are
we
way
off
the
average
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
think
about
this?
You
know,
I
think
it's.
H
So
vast
that
I'm
not
sure
you
would
get
a
good
comparison,
but
I'm
going
to
ask
the
question.
H
So
it's
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of.
I
don't
want
to
call
them
apples
and
oranges
out
there.
There's.
H
A
lot
of
different
factors
that
kind
of
play
into
that,
I'm
never
going
to
say
the
box
is
checked.
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H
H
H
Know
more,
hopefully,
kind
of
lower
the
cost
and
impact
the
market.
When
you
have
that
much.
H
G
Mr
procedural
matter,
which
is
that
I
think
we've
well
exceeded
our
time
allotted
for
for
reports.
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G
A
E
Down
an
interesting
path:
how
you're
in
the
process
of
digitizing
the
records.
E
E
Of
determining
it
was
another
data
point
for
determining
occupancy
yeah.
Yes,
I
think
there
is.
H
We
are
transitioning
software
systems,
as
I
know
so
I
can.
I
can
work
on
that
for
you,
but
that.
H
E
The
pun,
the
with
the
the
report
of
housing
units,
if
we
could
actually
know
just
I
mean,
there's.
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E
E
A
A
B
B
B
Year,
director
zody
was
there.
I
actually
sat
next
to
him
in
a
couple
of
our
classes.
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B
B
B
These
they
sent
them
afterward,
so
you
can
go
back
and
share
materials.
So
if
you
can't
all
go
to.
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B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
Larger
towns-
and
I
think
it's
a
great
way
to
get
a
lot
of
information
for
our
community
in.
B
B
E
F
A
three-day
event
or
how
many
days
does
it?
Yes,
the
opening
session
was
on
wednesday.
A
And
seeing
none,
we
are
to
our
first
opportunity
for
public
comment
and
while
we're
making
the.
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K
L
Community
conversation
on
justice
reform,
this
may
seem
like
a
county
function.
L
That
and
I
think
it
is
possible
that
we're
going
to
see
this
expansion
come
through
and
we.
L
L
Could
go
next
slide
last
time
I
I
just
did
a
couple
of
the
planters
that
were
in
our
city.
L
Would
look
full
and
with
a
lot
of
vitality,
so
I
want
to
give
some
good
examples
of
that.
L
L
First
time
as
an
example
of
where
we
could
do
that
beautification,
we
talk
a
lot
about
alleyways.
L
The
one
on
the
left
you'll
see
from
that's
on
kirkwood,
just
east
of
walnut,
so
you
can
see.
L
L
L
L
One
oskaloosa
iowa
and
then
we
have
las
vegas
up
there
in
austin.
Just
some
things
we
could
do.
L
With
those
alleyways
to
spruce
them
up,
and
we
heard
from
clerk
bowling
about
strengthening.
L
Michigan
did
some
lighting
and
another
example
next
slide,
and
then
I
talked
with
consult.
L
L
Richmond,
where
they
kind
of
added
some
color
to
their
community
through
the
crosswalks
next.
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L
L
M
Subject,
I
want
to
update
you
in
the
community
about
the
status
of
our
cost
of
system.
Casa.
M
M
Be
crazy
busy
with
thanksgiving
christmas
and
new
year's,
I
wanted
to
alert
the
public
right.
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M
M
M
M
Was
out
of
town
or
too
far
away
for
you
to
visit,
but
you
would
then
have
a.
M
When
you
were
dealing
with
the
case,
so
I
invite
people
to
go
to
monroe
county
casa.org
you'll
find.
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M
M
N
Okay,
sorry
hi,
my
name
is
greg
alexander.
I
made
the
conscious
decision
about
four
years.
N
N
N
It's
kind
of
a
lot
to
take
in
so
I
added
some
color
to
make
it
legible.
The
red
line
is.
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
So
now
there's
precedent,
though
next
next
slide,
please,
mr
lucas.
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N
N
N
O
Daryl
rubell
says
in
bloomington.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
the
great
work
that
the.
O
City
of
bloomington
street
department
does
snow
patrol
they're
getting
ready
to
go.
Do
it.
O
O
O
O
O
And
everything
too
utilities
thank
them
guys
they
do
a
great
job.
You
know
the
water.
O
O
O
Great
bloomington
police
force,
you
know
they're
they're
great
guys,
anthony
fosnaugh.
I
love
the
guy.
A
A
A
A
A
K
P
P
A
brie
everyone,
an
update
and
ultimately
hope
to
receive
a
vote
this
evening.
P
The
vacation
of
the
existing
right
away,
we
feel
at
this
point
comfortable
and
confident
that
the.
P
Board
of
public
works
is
is
going
to
accept
our
dedication.
There's
been,
you
know,
a
lot
of.
P
Confusion:
it's
not
the
the
most
straightforward
process
here
in
terms
of
steps
to
get
it
done.
Q
A
And
will
mr
robinson
want
to
add
anything
to
that,
or
should
he
just
be
on
call
four
questions.
G
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
cordero,
mr
sieber
and
robinson
mr
seabor.
I'm
guessing,
could
you
explain.
K
Display
that,
if
that
would
be
helpful,
I
think
that
would
be
yeah
great
question.
I
probably
should.
Q
Have
just
jumped
into
that
right
in
my
initial
presentation,
but
yeah
you
can
see
on
the
the.
Q
Q
Q
Q
G
G
Described
private
utility
encouragement
into
the
proposed
right-of-way
and
limited
sort.
G
Of
current
utility,
based
on
access,
lack
of
connection
to
other
properties
aren't.
Q
G
E
The
current
right-of-way,
if
I'm
reading
that
map
correctly
the
circle
on
that
map,
as
at
the
end.
E
Q
E
E
A
Any
other
questions-
councilmember,
piedmont,
smith.
Yes,
so
I'm
also
trying
to
understand
the.
F
Q
Q
Q
Standard
encroachment
agreement,
but
I
think,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
work
session
on
this
topic,.
Q
Okay,
so
is
there
any
precedent?
Are
there
other
places
in
the
city
where
there
is
private.
F
Utility
infrastructure
under
a
public
right-of-way.
Yes,
that's
another
great
question.
Q
Q
Q
A
J
I
would
find
that
helpful
in
clarifying
so
way
in.
I,
I
believe
the
petitioner
in
response.
K
To
comments
at
the
july,
20th
meeting
has
been
working
to
pursue
a
relocation
of
the
sally.
K
K
K
K
That
little
white
strip
in
between
to
make
it
contiguous
and
then
come
back
to
the
council
and.
K
Ask
that
that
plus
the
red
portion
be
vacated
so
there
there
were
these
odd
hiccups
that
led.
K
Them
to
the
point
where
we
are
now
where
they
would
like
they're,
requesting
that
the.
K
Council
vacate
the
the
existing
alley
with
the
intent
that
they
will
propose
dedicating
the.
K
K
Should
the
council
vote
to
vacate
this
alley
tonight?
I
believe
the
petitioner
is
on.
K
K
K
Decide
to
vacate
the
existing
alley
and
that's
that's
the
question
before
you.
If
you.
K
If
you
would
like
to
do
so
with
the
hope
that
the
blue
alley
will
be
accepted
by
the.
K
F
I
think
we
assume
that
may
need
to
be
organized.
So
do
we
have
mr
robinson,
who
wants
to.
R
Of
the
voluntary
sustainability
incentive,
the
petitioners
we're
using
to
get
the
additional.
R
Chose
to
receive
for
the
incentive
on
that
site,
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
as
a
point.
R
Of
fact,
nothing
more
than
that
utility
that
would
be
located
under
the
blue
portion
of
the.
S
Yeah
this
is
a
joe
and
patrick,
with
peerless
development
I
just
wanted
to.
If
I
had
a
moment
to.
S
Supplement
some
of
the
explanations
that
mr
seabor
had
provided
is
specifically
relative.
S
To
the
private
infrastructure
for
utility
infrastructures
underneath
public
locations
in.
S
Public
right-of-way
as
part
of
our
process
over
the
past
few
months,
we've
done
research.
S
Of
other
similar
installations,
definitely
not
a
storm
water,
a
private
storm
water,
installation.
S
S
Require
a
lot
more
maintenance
inspection
and
often
with
grease
interceptors
cleaning.
This
storm.
S
S
S
S
S
Manhole
structures,
manhole
lids
on
the
alleyway
and
to
one
minor,
also
alternate
theory.
There.
S
S
S
S
Showing
you
that
we
would
be
relocating
and
taking
care
of
as
part
of
the
proposed.
A
G
R
R
R
Sally
vacation
as
it's
taken
some
time,
thank
you.
I
have
another
follow-up
or
too.
If
that's
okay,.
G
Uses
near-term
future
uses.
Could
you
speak
a
little
more
to
what
you
or
the
in
the.
G
City
see
as
the
value
of
the
the
current
right-of-way,
so
the
tricky
part
is.
I
might.
Q
Q
With
the
red
as
well,
but
I
I
think
that
maybe
I'll
try
to
turn
it
over
to
you
director.
Q
A
G
G
G
Something
like
that,
but
I
see
other
potential
values
of
of
you
know:
alleys,
even
that
are
stubs.
G
Like
this,
but
what
I'm,
having
a
hard
time
with,
is
reconciling
the
reasoning
defending
the.
G
Seem
to
me
like
there
are
meaningful
enough
differences
to
to
lead
to
different
outcomes
which.
G
Q
I
think
putting
on
city
engineering
and
potentially
trying
to
act
as
a
representative.
Q
G
G
Just
described
like
I
from
an
engineering
department's
perspective,
I
don't
think
there.
Q
Q
E
And
we
have
people
from
utilities
here
to
talk
about
it,
but
I
mean
for
more
than
20
years.
I've.
E
Been
familiar
with
the
big
dig
in
the
underground
river
that
goes
under
downtown
bloomington
from.
E
E
E
The
obligation
of
the
city
to
maintain
it
cpu
and
and
everyone
else,
and
I
mean
to
follow
on.
E
Mr
flaherty's
question
I
mean
this
is
a
I'm
I've
sort
of
not
even
understanding
what
utilities.
E
P
Sorry,
it
was
just
a
follow-up
comment.
I
think
what
andrew
was
saying
is
the
the
cost.
P
P
Own
both
of
them,
but
that
might
not
be
the
case
in
the
future.
So,
yes,
it
serves
limited.
A
Public,
I
guess
property
owners,
but
it
would,
it
would
serve.
It
does
serve
two
properties.
R
My
apologies
for
my
technology
family.
Hopefully
people
can
see
and
hear
me
so
I.
R
A
Thank
you,
the
question
I
have.
It
seems
to
me
that
when
last
we
were
visiting
this
topic
and.
A
The
project
as
it
relates
to
the
the
area
to
consider
this
blue
proposal,
so
we've
heard.
A
A
Q
Q
A
E
E
Other
words,
what
you're
saying
is
because
of
the
potentially
approved
to
be
approved.
E
Development
we're
going
to
find
ourselves
saddled
for
lack
of
a
better
word
with
a
new
alley.
E
That
we
didn't
have
to
take
care
of
before,
but
regardless
of
whether
we
approve
the
project
or.
E
E
Right
next
door
and
we
had
the
obligation
anyway,
so
maybe
this
question
is
from
mr
robinson.
E
Q
Q
So
there
would
be
an
incremental
expanse
to
maintaining
this
alley,
because
if
we
were
to.
E
E
To
chime
in,
I
don't
want
to
deprive
him
of
the
opportunity
now
that
we
can
hear
him
again.
R
The
challenge
that
staff
has
in
recommending
vacating
right-of-ways,
it
is
challenging.
R
Because
it
is
a
public
benefit
for
us
to
maintain
right-of-ways
and
we've
had
an
awful.
R
Lot
of
discussions
about
alleys
on
this
request
and
other
requests,
and
so
it
is
a
difficult.
R
The
red
alley,
you
know
kind
of
meets
the
criteria.
I
do
believe
petitioners
did
say.
R
Within
that
red
alley,
we
did
not
receive
any
comments
during
that
period,
so.
R
Challenges
of
how
that
blue
alley
does
it
serve
any
public
benefit?
Much
like
does
the
red
one.
R
R
R
Coming
down
the
line
council's
considered
alley
vacations
in
the
past
and
are
not
our
standard.
R
Has
been
no,
we
do
not
recommend
vacations
of
right-of-way.
For
that
reason,
however,
this
is.
F
Yes,
I
wanted
to
ask
about
a
historical
marker
to
commemorate
a
smokestack
this
summer.
Of
course,.
F
F
In
some
way,
with
a
marker
or
or
something
so,
I'm
wondering
and
maybe
along
the
lines
of.
F
Discussed
in
the
summer,
so
I'd
like
to
hear
the
feedback
from
mr
cordero
about
that
idea.
F
Is
there
can
I
just
ask
our.
K
Intent
to
either
install
a
marker
or
provide
funding
for
the
city
to
do
that.
K
But
certainly
a
memorialization
of
the
intent
could
be
written
fairly
quickly.
Tonight
I
don't.
T
T
T
That's
just
the
way
it
would
work
the
blu-ray
of
way
if
it
has
private
infrastructure
underneath.
T
T
T
T
T
Put
something
one
day
so
that
it's
not
simply,
I
think,
councilmember
volan
said,
is
this
a
matter.
T
E
E
E
They
have
land
rights
that
no
other
entity
does,
and
we
got
this
railroad
conveyed
to
us
for.
E
The
right,
the
trail
so
again,
I'm
sort
of
struggling
with
the
I
mean
as.
E
This
item,
it
does
still
come
down
to
principle.
Mr
kellison's
made
that
very
clear.
E
That
it's
just
for
this
property
that
it's
it's
for
two,
the
property
will
never
be.
E
Connected
to
another
alley,
to
the
other
side,
unless
we
get
rid
of
the
beeline
trail.
E
So
I
mean
I'm,
I
just
I
can't
bring
myself
to
say
no
to
this
yet
I
mean
I
like
that.
We're.
E
We're
adding
to
we're
adding
a
nominal
amount
to
our
infrastructure
inventory.
E
If
utilities
needed
to
have
access
to
pipes
on
the
south
side
of
the
building,
I
mean
why
not.
E
E
E
E
D
Bza
approving
it
on
tuesday
can
we
do
that?
Is
that
an
appropriate
amendment.
K
I
think
no,
I
I
think
the
the
decision
is
the
councils
to
make
us.
K
To
whether
to
vacate
this
or
not,
I
think
conditioning
the
vacation
on
the
decision
of.
K
The
board
of
public
works
judgments
as
to
whether
to
accept
a
new
alley
would
be
improper.
K
K
I'm
happy
to
display
the
text
of
a
hastily
written
amendment
that
reflects.
A
P
P
We
we
heard
a
lot
about
the
need
for
housing
so
and,
and
I'm
I'm
getting
to
sort
of
the
the.
P
Tax
dollars
and
the
maintenance
you
know
of
of
public
ways
right
away,
is
you
know
our
project.
P
Will
you
know
add
significant
tax
dollars
to
the
to
the
tax
base?
If,
if
approved
and
we
can
go.
P
Through
and
build
it
so
there's
there's
you
know
value
in
multiple
fronts
in
us.
You.
P
O
Yet
to
been
able
to
have
the
discussion
with
with
the
board
of
public
works
and
the
engineering.
P
Department
in
earnest,
we,
we
believe
that
you
know
we
could
probably
propose
alternate
locations.
P
P
That
everybody's
happy
and
comfortable
with
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
that.
F
And
this
is
to
put
into
the
record
the
commitment
to
create
a
historic
marker.
P
Understood,
I
think
you
know,
as
it
was
proposed
to
seven
to
ten
thousand
dollars.
I
think
is
you.
P
I
guess
I
I
just
don't
like
the
open-endedness
of
it,
so
that
was
all
that
was
my
suggestion.
F
I
would
welcome
that
amendment
to
the
amendment.
A
Councilmember
sims,
thank
you.
I
do
have
a
question
for
mr
cordero.
I
F
Yes,
because
it
was
mentioned
in
the
summer
yeah,
but
the
question
I
suppose
now
is
whether
that.
F
I
K
To
chime
in
has
indicated
that
ten
thousand
dollars
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars
should
be
a.
K
Sufficient
figure
to
cover
similar
historic
markers
that
are
around
the
city,
all
right,
so.
K
The
amendment
to
the
amendment
has
been
incorporated.
The
amendment
as
amended
is
now.
K
Still
still
the
councils
and
can
can
be
voted
on
as
soon
as
you're
ready
all
right.
So
I
believe.
A
So
all
in
favor
of
the
amendment
say:
aye
aye,
aye
aye.
Anyone
opposed.
G
We're
I
kept
hearing
reasoning
kind
of
on
both
sides
of
of
keeping
or
vacating
alleys.
There.
G
Was
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
substantial
difference
between
the
current
red
striped
alley.
We
saw
in.
G
That
image
versus
the
proposed
blue
striped
alley
just
to
the
south.
There
are
some
differences.
G
But
I
don't
think
there
are
all
that
material
so
applying
the
exact
reasoning
shared
by
the.
G
G
Actually
contingent
on
the
dedication
of
the
the
blue
alley,
either
I'll
defer
to
staff.
G
On
their
recommendation
to
the
board
of
public
works,
if
they
don't
think
it's
in
the
city's.
G
And
if
they
want
to
recommend
a
negative
finding
for
the
bpw,
if
that's
okay
with
me,.
G
We
talked
about
affordable
housing
as
one
type
of
public
benefit
that
we
like
to.
G
Features
that
the
project
the
design
has
been
approved
will
incorporate
so
there's.
G
I
think
this
is
enough
of
a
public
benefit
that
it
makes
sense
to
me
and
with
that.
G
E
So
I'm
looking
at
the
the
memo
and
I'm
just
going
to
sort
of
follow
through
this
section.
E
E
E
E
In
land
use
I
mean
we
are
literally
talking
about
a
future
use.
It's
just
the
near
future.
E
E
E
E
I
think
that
they
have
been
going
through
the
very
orderly
process
to
build
a
building.
You.
E
Know
if
the
building
is
not
sufficient,
providing
enough
public
benefit
and
it
seems
like
we've.
E
Upon
anticipated
development
or
change
of
use,
I
mean
we
could
just
sort
of
wait
for
the
perfect.
E
Development
to
come,
50
or
100
years
from
now
or
10
years
from
now,
but
is
this
development.
E
E
E
That
they
are
asking
for
it
because
they
they
went,
they
went
for
sustainability
incentives,
so.
E
There
is
a
public
benefit
and
you
know
what
neighborhood
the
neighborhood
is.
Two.
E
Buildings
served
by
this
stub.
That's
always
going
to
be
a
stub
and
we're
not
even
getting.
F
For
everybody
involved,
I
am
not
opposed
to
vacating
the
alley
and
even
if
the
board
of
public.
F
F
F
F
I
The
ordinance
as
amended
as
amanda,
thank
you
very,
very
much
one
of
the
things
and
maybe.
I
I
Know
what
it
is
we're
talking
about
absolutely
absolutely
so
the
basin
itself
is
a
it's.
S
By
side,
each
tube
is
approximately
36
inch
for
36
to
48
inch
in
diameter.
S
Existing
city
storm
water
structure
that
would
connect
to
it
so
other
than
that.
S
It's
just
a
galvanized
steel,
tube
buried
underground,
so
it's
it's!
It
requires
visual.
P
Requirements
for
our
new
development,
correct,
yes,
okay,
thank
you!
They
can
clarify
some
things.
B
B
A
Are
we
going
to
move
it?
Oh
I'm
sorry,
I
moved
that
ordinance,
22
30.
C
T
Analyst,
who
will
be
reporting
as
well
on
this
matter
on
zoom
our
assistant
director
for.
T
T
T
You
know
you
all
know.
I've
said
this
many
times
that
our
goal
and
our
objective
is
to.
T
T
That's
12
percent
in
2023
and
six
percent
in
2025.,
where
the
purpose
of
this
is
first.
T
Will
help
us
complete
the
com,
the
allow
us
to
complete
the
expansion
of
the
dillman
road.
T
T
T
Just
a
minute,
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
first
about
what
we've
done
with
the
rate
case
that.
T
You
approved
in
2018
and
then
continue
to
talk
about
what
we're
doing
over
the
next
four
years.
T
So
since
2018
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
on
the
sewer
side
at
the
dillman
plant,
we've.
T
T
T
T
To
our
disinfection
systems
at
dillman,
we've
done
improvements
to
our
supervisory
control
and.
T
T
T
With
solids
handling
and
the
digesters,
we've
made
improvements
to
disinfection
control
and.
T
T
T
T
Permit
went
into
effect
last
year
we
replaced
the
ultraviolet
disinfection
system
at
blucherpool.
T
T
T
T
We've
done
a
lot
of
sewer
lining
projects.
We've
been
doing
those
for
for
quite
a
while.
T
T
T
T
T
T
Iu
health
had
a
certain
amount
that
they
were
contributing
to
the
project.
We
contributed
to
the.
T
T
Station
to
the
new
sewer
that
goes
to
blue
trip
pool
instead
of
going
to
to
the
dillman
plant.
T
T
T
And
it
never
was,
it
was
a
a
wastewater
lagoon,
so
we're
trying
to
get
that
reconsidered
by
fema.
T
T
Our
infiltration
and
inflow
going
to
the
bluetooth
pool
plant
we're
also
one
other
thing.
We
do.
T
In
terms
of
capital,
spending
is
that
we
pay
60
percent
of
the
leech
lease
purchase
agreement.
T
For
the
solar
installations
at
cbu,
from
from
the
sewer
we'll
be
doing
that
until
2025.
T
T
T
T
T
T
And
then
this
rate
casing
does
include
dollars
for
a
possible
new
service.
T
And
needs
in
the
and
I'll
leave
it
to
her.
Take
it
jennifer.
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
Okay,
sorry,
I
have
to
always
look
because
my
eyesight's
not
so
great
the
item
in
light
blue.
T
Four
years
as
council
requested,
so
we
will
expect
to
be
back
in
2026
to
finish,
to
follow.
T
On
what
we've
been
doing
here
tonight,
so
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
Jennifer
is
here.
T
To
also
to
answer
questions
and
we're
happy
to
do
anything,
we
can
all
right
very
good
council.
C
Some
change
and
I'm
trying
to
discern
and
it's
difficult
for
me
and
perhaps
you
can
give
me
some.
C
C
T
C
C
T
T
T
T
C
T
The
point
where
we're
regularly
at
or
over
our
capacity,
what
the
state
can
do
is
deny
new.
T
Requests
for
for
new
developers
to
connect
to
our
system,
so
we
really
need
to
make
sure
we
have.
C
F
Yes,
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
perhaps
it's
in
the
report
from
crow.
U
U
What
we're
operating
revenues
currently
taking
in
versus
the
proposed
revenue
requirements.
U
Your
question
is
what
I'd
like
to
know
is
so
after
phase
one
and
then
after
phase
two
also,
what.
F
Thank
you
very
much,
and,
and
I
and
I
do
apologize,
I
left
the
slide
out
of
the
presentation.
T
That
had
the
amount
that
that
what
that
means
to
the
average
customer,
the
average
bloomington.
T
Customers
around
3,
500
gallons
per
month,
that's
about
three
and
a
half
units.
That
number
is
in.
T
T
We've
made
great
progress
the
last
few
years,
if
you,
if
you
think,
back
to
all
the
things
that.
T
T
T
Making
progress,
I
think,
we're
certainly
in
the
top
few
in
the
state
and
and
we're
going
to
keep.
I
You
mentioned
infrastructure
prep.
I
guess
there
was
four
different
areas
to
prepare
us,
so
it
could.
I
Be
shovel
ready
to
be
ready
to
receive
federal
dollars
if
you
could
give
it
a
percentage
on.
I
T
T
T
The
state
or
through
the
feds
or
maybe
we'll
win
the
lottery
or
something.
But
you
know
it's.
T
I
I
That's
kind
of
or
going
there
just
a
little
bit
now
go
madam
chair.
I'm
sorry.
I
I
Okay,
when
we
get
there,
okay,
thank
you
and
that's
all.
I
have
I'll
have
some
comments.
C
C
Station,
I
assume
ls
is
lift
station.
Is
that
what
that
is,
and
is
that
something
to
remedy
this.
J
Detailed
presentation
that
you
gave
us-
I
guess
I
just
want
to
ask
your
help.
We
have
constituents.
J
T
T
T
T
T
T
T
And
when
that
happened,
you
know
we
had
to
do
an
emergency
contract
for
three
quarters
of
a.
T
F
Related
to
that
question,
can
you
please
review
the
ways
that
customers
who
are
having.
T
T
F
And
how
much
money
is
set
aside
for
that
this
year's
budget?
I
believe
it's
fifty
thousand.
T
Dollars-
and
it
was
in
the
numbers,
were
in
the
2023
budget
presentation
and
I
can't
remember.
T
What
they
were,
but
it's
several
hundred
people
that
would
have
had
helped
this
this
year.
F
Townships
are
also
a
source
for
people.
Townships
can
help
there's
also
the
federal
government.
T
Has
the
lie
heap
thing
that
where
you
can
get
help
with
your
heating
bill,
there's
also
a
live.
T
Weep
that
can
help
with
water
bills,
and-
and
I
know
we
do
participate
in
some
of
those
things.
T
A
K
K
K
K
A
V
V
V
C
Connection
fees
adequate
or
do
we
need
impact
fees
as
well,
actually,
in
a
couple
of
ways.
T
T
T
T
T
T
T
Other
places
where,
where
we,
where
we'll
need
to
do
that,
so
the
basic
concept
is
current.
T
T
Clear
water
problem,
a
project-
I
know,
council
member
smith,
you
live
in
park,
ridge,
east
right.
T
T
So
what
what
the
developer
agreed
to
through
a
memorandum
of
understanding
was
they
paid
us
a.
T
T
T
T
C
C
C
Where
we're
implementing
this,
and
so
but
I
but
I'd
like
to
know
if
it's
going
to
be.
T
C
A
All
right
seeing
none
well
all
in
favor.
B
Sorry
having
a
little
trouble
turning
on
the
microphone
okay
council
member
of
olin.
E
C
A
B
T
Glad
it's
finished,
as
the
synopsis
said,
we're
requesting
an
increase
of
26
percent
in
the
storm.
T
T
We'll
talk
first
about
projects
were
recently
finished.
This
project
is
one
that
we're
actually.
T
Very
proud
of
the
this
is
a
detention
basin
over
in
the
the
somax
neighborhood,
where.
T
T
We
did
revenue
bond
projects
related
to
the
so-called
hidden
river
project.
That's
clear.
T
T
Bigger
than
the
storm
event
we
had
in
june
of
2021
that
flooded
kirkwood
avenue,
so
you
can.
T
T
T
T
T
T
The
spankers
branch
has
a
tunnel
on
east
of
downtown
or
sorry
west
of
downtown.
That
we'll
be.
T
Replacing
as
well
we're
going
to
be
improving
our
residential
grant
program
to
do
a
better
job.
T
T
Be
a
much
more
equitable
distribution,
green
infrastructure
efforts
when
we
established
the.
T
T
T
T
U
U
U
U
T
A
Both
questions
from
council
councilmember
rallo,
I
had
a
question
about
with
the
prime
rate.
C
C
Yeah
interests
yeah.
We
have
not
sold
any
debt
since
we
saw
the
since
the
interest
rate
started.
T
Up
to
since
I've
been
here,
market
funding
for
market
financing
for
bonds
has
been
much
more.
T
T
C
U
U
U
C
T
C
A
T
T
I
Operations
or
switching
so
I
was
a
little
confused
with
that
yeah.
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
I
I
From
public
works,
I
don't
know
what
we're
getting
from,
which
one
we're
getting
from
public.
T
I
T
I
F
Yes,
I
want
to
tappy
to
see
that
some
of
this
new
revenue
will
go
to
the
neighborhood.
F
The
revenues
would
go
towards
that
as
much
as
we
can.
We
we're
budgeting
about
the
same
as.
T
Is
people
in
lesser
served?
Neighborhoods
tend
to
not
have
the
background
understanding
of
the.
T
Likely
to
come
to
cbu
and
say:
hey
help
us
out
so,
but
we've
identified
places
where
some.
T
So
our
the
the
idea
is
that
we
would
reach
out
to
to
to
residents
that
had
those
kinds
of.
F
Public
record
and
that's
the
the
you,
the
utility
service
board
resolution
has
in
its,
whereas.
F
Clauses
18
rate
increase,
whereas
it
should
be
26
percent.
That's
right.
That
was
the
typographical.
F
Whereas
clause
it
doesn't,
that's
right,
have
a
legal
impact.
So
that's
right.
Okay,
just
wanted
to.
D
A
robust
street
sweeping
to
help
with
getting
things
out
of.
D
And
I
you
know,
I've
had
people
asking
me
about.
You
know
the
leaf
program
at
all,
and,
and
so
it.
T
Well
there
there
are
always
a
lot
of
leaves
that
don't
get
sucked
up
and,
and
our
hope,
I
think.
T
T
T
That
the
city's
in
terms
of
environmental
sustainability,
I
think
that
encouraging
people.
T
To
bag
them
or
mulch
them
is
far
preferable
over
going
out
there
with
giant
vacuum
cleaners.
T
D
D
And
say
help
or
how
would
that
work?
Well,
there's
a
couple
things:
we
do
one
of
the
things
that.
T
T
T
T
C
C
C
So
you
know
we
we
have
flooding
on
kirkwood.
Will
that
mitigate
that
flooding.
C
Likely
in
say
done,
meadow
would
be
the
an
ideal
place
right
for
something
similar
and
have
you.
C
T
T
T
T
The
discussions
about
this
project
they're
they're,
certainly
going
to
have
some
interest.
T
T
T
T
The
inlet
being
too
small
there's
also
a
bridge
over
closer
to
the
union
there
and
that
water.
T
T
C
C
K
A
V
V
V
Important
it
was
to
inlets.
This
is
my
backyard.
This
is
not
the
100
year
flood.
In
fact,
I've
been.
V
V
V
V
V
V
Any
big
rain
yeah
next
slide,
so
here's
prospect
hill
and
the
purple
is
the
storm
sewer
right.
Mr.
V
V
Might
take
on
80
percent
of
all
the
water
in
prospect
hill
next
slide
and,
yes,
those
are.
V
Storm
water
inlets
underneath
that
water
that's
a
regular
occurrence.
I
call
the
city
I
clean.
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
Is
not,
I
don't
live
on
this
corner.
This
is
not
my
yard
right,
all
right,
so
yeah,
and
then
I
this.
V
V
V
Jackson
or
fairview
and
then
my
house
is
right
there,
one
more
and
so
you
know
yeah.
We
got
to.
V
V
So
like
in
prospect
hill,
I
don't
think
we
should
do
setback
variances.
I
think
we
should.
K
I
see
no
commenters
on
zoom
all
right,
very
good.
If
there's
no
more
public
comment,
we
are
back
to.
E
Well:
well,
okay,
it's
really
complicated!
So,
first
of
all,
if
the
sewer
is
full
of
water,
it
doesn't.
T
T
Challenge
the
other
part
of
the
challenge-
and
this
came
up
when
I
was
here
for
the
the
water
rate.
T
Case
I
think,
a
year
or
so
ago
it
turns
out
that
location
near
where
your
home
is
happens.
T
T
T
T
T
This
next
rate
cycle-
well,
maybe
what
you
can
do
for
us
is
give
us
a
sense
of
scale.
In
other
words,.
E
E
T
T
That
all
depends
on
we're
working
with
a
contractor
on
a
study
to
to
design
and
if.
T
E
And
will
I
mean
you
say
you
have
identified
this
area,
but
you
also
have
limited
dollars
so.
E
T
C
There
goes
my
mic
so,
first
of
all,
it
seems
to
me
that.
C
C
C
T
A
Mr
kelsa
and
crow
and
everyone
in
your
staff
that
was
listening
in
on
zoom.
G
A
Other
comments,
yes,
councilmember
flaherty.
I
appreciate
that
and
I'm
sensitive
to
those.
G
Is
actually
to
schedule
a
special
session
and
cancel
the
committee
the
whole
for
november
30th.
G
Granting
us
more
flexibility
and
the
ability
to
act
on
some
of
these
should
we
feel
that's.
G
A
E
For
similar
reasons,
the
meeting
is
public
and
we're
making
the
you
know
concession
here
that.
E
E
A
B
Volin,
yes
and
sims:
no,
and
that
fails
four
five
zero.
Next
on
our
legislation
for
first
readings.
B
B
B
A
All
right
moved
in
second
in
any
further
conversation.
Yes,
I
would
just
appeal
again
to.
G
A
special
session
on
the
30th
instead,
along
with
this
ordinance,
should
this
motion
pass.
G
Vote
to
send
to
a
third
reading
on
december
december,
7th
or
whenever
that
next
meeting
is.
G
So,
there's
literally
no
downside
for
your
preferred
process.
What
it
would
guarantee
is.
G
A
E
Already
in
the
previous
motion
pointed
out
that
this
that
I'm
I'm
okay
with
accelerating
the.
E
Schedule
because
there's
there's
important
things
coming,
if
you,
if
you
schedule
special
sessions,.
E
E
E
Be
necessarily,
you
know
contradictory
for
its
own
sake
like
this
is
expeditious,.
E
E
E
Should
be
noted
in
in
minutes,
so
you
know,
and
just
we
urge
you
to
maybe
not
think.
A
C
C
G
C
K
K
K
K
A
A
The
year,
some
of
the
other
items
that
we've
heard
from
you
know,
councilmember
smith,
from.
A
We
already
have
on
the
on
the
agenda
so,
as
we
just
have
a
few
more
meetings
to
go,
I
would.
C
I'll
make
the
motion
of
a
special
session
and
in
lieu
of
the
committee
of
the
hall
on
december.