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A
All
right,
the
the
ordinance
is
brought
forward
to
this
commission
and
it's
sponsored
and.
A
Done
by
mr
volun,
mr
volun,
would
you
like
to.
B
B
Advisory
commission,
I
trust
that
you
all
have
read
the
packet
of
the.
B
Author
of
the
2012
ordinance
that
redistricted
the
city,
it
was
the
map
that
I
drew.
B
That
that
had
the
fewest
changes
to
the
city's
districts
that
was
accepted
by
the
council.
B
B
B
B
A
proposed
map
for
the
council
to
approve
they
would
have
to
meet
at
least
12
times
over.
B
So
this
proposes
a
two-year
commission
so
that
the
commissioners
can
learn.
B
The
county
commissioners
consider
re-precincting
julie.
Thomas
can
tell
you
what
it's
like
when.
B
B
You
know
to
accept
the
judgment
of
a
judge.
You
know,
then
I
would
do
that,
but.
B
B
B
Of
growth
of
the
city
or
or
shrinkage
of
the
city,
any
change
in
the
city's
boundaries
that.
B
B
B
B
I
I
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
it's
constituted.
It
follows
the
principle
in
the.
B
That
people
are
chosen
at
random,
but
I
think
that's
an
important
point
so
that
it's
not.
B
You
know
like
there's,
got
to
be
more
breadth,
more
diversity
of
of
people
chosen
for
it.
B
But
that's
a
unique
aspect
of
this,
unlike
other
commissions,
in
order
to
to.
C
Okay
and
I'm
trying
to
think
back
to
2012
when
we
were
doing
it
yeah
does
the
mayor
have
any.
C
B
There
is
like
this
is
entirely
within
our
concern,
so
no
there's
no
mayoral
appointments.
C
Staff,
our
council
staff-
or
I
I
I
recall,
our
clerk
at
the
time-
regina
moore-
had
a
lot
to
do.
C
With
the
last
redistricting
that
culminated
in
2012.,
mr
lucas
did
we
say
our
staff
or
clerk.
D
I'd
have
to
pull
up
the
ordinance
whether
it's
it's
specified.
I
know
you
and
I.
D
Talked
that
council
staff
would
certainly
support
the
commission's
work
and
I
believe
the
clerk.
D
Efforts,
so
I
I
think
we
were
expecting
something
similar
for
this
commission.
Okay,
thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
councilmember.
Poland
did
I
hear
you
say
that.
E
Once
this
commission
has
done
their
work
and
then
if
there's
a
sorry,
if
there's
a
substantial.
E
E
The
next
census
count,
I'm
actually
not
sure
what
would
trigger
it.
I
don't
think
it
would
be.
B
D
When
there's
new
territory,
I
do
believe
there
are
provisions
for
including
annex
territory
in.
D
Existing
districts,
but
that
could
be
an
instance
where
district
lines
need
to
be
redrawn.
E
Okay,
thank
you.
That
makes
sense,
because
it
wasn't
clear
that
this
commission.
E
E
F
Don't
I
just
I
well,
except
just
regarding
the
re
redistricting,
which
I'm
I
need
to.
F
Addition,
if
the
city
goes
ahead
with,
you
know,
with
annexation,
how
that
affects.
F
B
Concern
about
the
validity
of
the
census
and
the
by
the
administration
is
going
to
be.
B
B
B
B
B
This
still
after
nine
months
is
a
sign
that
things
aren't
normal,
so
I
mean
I
wrote
the
ordinance.
F
Participation
in
the
census
is
regarding
the
funding,
our
funding
and
what
we
get
back
in.
F
Early
to
say,
and
so
I'm
fine,
I
have
no
other
questions
thanks.
I
would
just
respond
briefly.
B
B
That's
normally
when
the
census
reports
local
data.
At
this
rate,
though,
we
may
be
delayed.
C
Advisory
body,
or
is
it
this
committee?
What
they're
going
to
do
is
choose
the
candidates
for.
A
You're
still
muted
jim,
thank
you,
so
this
would
be
different
than
our
current
practice.
E
With
as
far
as
commissions,
and
so
it
would
be,
the
council
leadership
that.
E
And
is
that
what
I'm
hearing
as
opposed
to
this
community
affairs
committee,.
B
B
B
B
Would
be
vetted
by
in
the
like
the
as
the
proposal
says,
the
officers
but
the.
C
C
C
Draw
from
there,
if
you
wanted
to
make
that
amendment,
I
would
consider
it
friendly.
I
mean.
A
Need
to
ask
the
clerk
to
put
out
a
call
for
candidates
for
this
commission
yeah
it'd.
B
A
Kind
of
questions,
or
is
the
first
step
that
we
need
to
vote
on,
bringing
this
to
fruition.
B
A
D
C
A
And
then,
after
that
occurs
the
sequence
would
be,
then
we
could
instruct
the
clerk
to
put
out
a.
A
Memo
for
soliciting
members
for
the
18
members,
I
will
say
that
the
ordinance
would
would.
D
Need
to
be
passed
by
the
council
and
signed
by
the
mayor
before
the
commission
were
to
be
created.
D
And
then,
upon
the
adoption
of
the
ordinance,
I
think
the
clerk
could
initiate
the
process
of.
B
Candidates
for
the
commission,
but
they're,
not
commissioners,
until
they're,
drawn
by
random
lot.
A
B
Yeah
I
mean
if
it's
not
explicitly
stated
in
the
language,
I'm
happy
to
make
sure
that
that's.
B
That
this
is
an
inherently
political
act,
so
the
more
transparency,
the
better.
B
If
the
language
is
not
sufficiently
specific
for
you,
I
am
again
just.
B
Like
with
customer
sandberg
happy
to
to,
I
would
consider
such
a
change,
friendly
change.
B
Great
great
other
items
that
that
are
coming
up
as
questions
in
people's
minds.
A
So,
mr
lucas,
do
we
need
public
comment
at
this?
Yes,
all
right,
I
will
ask:
if
should
the
public.
A
A
To
let
us
know-
and
we
will
give
you
time
to
speak
about
the
ordinance
that
we
have
discussed.
D
And
I
do
have
a
request
for
a
public
comment
and.
D
I'm
just
getting
off
of
the
chat,
so
if
you'll
give
me
just
a
moment
all
righty,
thank
you.
D
Okay,
so
this
is
a
comment
from
the
I
think
dave
askins
with
the
b
square
beacon.
He
says
that.
D
D
D
D
A
Do
we
need
a
motion
to
conclude
our
meeting
today
and
send
this
forward
with?
Oh,
mr
sims,
thank
you.
E
E
Just
to
keep
us
on
track,
mr
volun,
what
say
you
to
the
comments
that
was
proposed
by
mr
askins.
B
Well,
I
I
don't
share
his
opinion
about
it
not
being
ready.
I
think
that
it's.
B
B
B
Than
that
that,
in
fact,
I
think
that
it
says
each
commission,
member
other,
shall
have.
B
B
We
could
say
that
each
member
affiliated
with
the
democratic
party
must
have
voted
in
at
least.
B
To
serve
on
the
commission,
but
I
don't
think
even
these
are
that
strict
of
change.
E
I'm
sorry
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
I
think
the
difficulty
comes.
F
From
ascertaining
who,
who
is
an
independent?
Well,
that's
not
that
hard
either
they
that
they.
C
C
B
I
admit
that
this
is
a
handicapped
by
the
nature
of
our
political
system,
that
it's
mostly.
B
B
C
E
Criteria
on
determining
dr
or
eyes-
and
I
think
I
heard
something
that
the
last.
B
B
B
Local
conditions,
but
you
know
I
think,
we've
reduced
the
number.
It
was
a
greater
number.
B
B
Specifies
affiliation
that
defines
affiliation
as
you
have
voted
in
that
party's
primary
and
you.
B
Have
not
voted
in
the
other
party's
primary,
but
that
language
is
not
in
the
proposal,
but
I.
B
Would
welcome
adding
it
if
that
would
satisfy
the
concern
about
the
definition
of
affiliation.
E
E
Sandberg's
friendly
amendment
there's
still
time
to
further
consider
it.
I
have
to
kind
of.
E
E
Three
general
elections,
but
again
there's
there's
still
time
to
kind
of
sort
it
out
and.
C
A
You're
right,
I
think,
that's
gonna
drive
how
they
draw
the
maps
and
how
it
it
works.
So.
A
All
right,
let's
see
mr
vollen
anything.
A
A
All
right
all
right,
all
right
we're
going
to
consider
recommendations.
I
will.
D
D
Amendments
that
need
to
be
grafted
between
now
and
then
we
can
do
that
and
have
those
considered.
D
Putting
things
in
writing
and
circulating
those
amendments
easily,
so
thank
you
for
your
patience.
C
And
mr
lucas,
do
you
have
enough
generated
from
tonight.
C
D
Folks,
who
are
sponsoring
so
we'll
we'll
reach
out
if
we
need
more
details
from
you.