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A
This
is
the
administration
committee
for
the
9th
of
december
2020..
We
have
two
items.
A
A
The
the
design
of
the
city,
logo
and
city
seal
and
here
to
present
is
city
clerk,
nicole
bolden.
A
Ms
bolden
hello,
are
you
ready
to
present?
I
am
good
evening
good
evening
before
I
get
started.
Would.
B
B
But
when
I
discussed
it
with
with
corporation
council,
she
agreed
that
having
some.
B
So
that
is
it.
I
worked
with
andrew
krebs
in
the
mayor's
office
to
come.
B
B
B
A
C
Okay,
but
in
the
past
we
talked
about
protections
of
use
and
you've
indicated.
B
D
A
A
What
we're
leaving
behind
I'm
still
entertained
by
it?
Yes,
if
you'll
give
me
a
second
again,
I'm.
B
I
apologize
to
all
of
you:
I'm
not
very
adept
at
switching
back
and
forth.
So
that's
fine!
Well,
while.
A
You're
doing
that,
the
other
question
I
I
have
is,
I
think
you
were
talking
about
you
know.
A
B
As
opposed
to
blue,
I
wonder
if
the
if
the
code
could
be
adapted
slightly
so
that
it
says
that.
A
A
I
mean
it's,
it's
it's
not
official.
If
we
can
amend
it
at
any
time.
A
What
do
you
mean?
Well,
I
mean
if,
if
it
has
to
be
who
has
to
approve
the
city
clerk.
B
Okay,
so
I'm
not
going
crazy
with
wanting
to
control
everything.
It's
just
part
of
the
job.
A
A
What
I
just
I
don't
recognize
that
city
at
all.
I
don't
remember
us
being
famous
for.
A
Nuclear
power,
but
that's
not
what
they
meant
at
the
time.
I'm
glad
we're
leaving
this
behind.
B
I
I
don't
think
so,
but
yeah
yeah
any
other
questions
on
ordnance,
2029,
councilman
risk
and.
A
D
May
I
conclude
that
was
in
1971
that
we
came
up
with
that.
Yes,
that
was
ordinance
7166,
so.
B
That
was
the
ordinance
that
established
the
city
seal
and
it
was
it
was
after
reading.
A
A
C
C
A
Updated
there's
a
lot
of
code
needs
to
be
updated
and
ridding
us
of
a
of
a
seal.
A
That
was
I'd,
say
an
unfortunate
choice
and
I
think
we're
very
fortunate
to
have.
A
Thank
you.
So
if
there's
no
other
comment.
A
To
council
for
regular
session
on
december
16th,
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
your
time.
B
This
evening,
thank
you
with
this
next
ordinance,
I'm
going
to
recuse
myself
since
I'm
the
sponsor.
A
C
Our
second
item
for
this
administration
committee
meeting
is
ordinance
20-33
to
amend.
C
Mr
bolin,
I
think
you
will
present
yes
thank
you,
so
this
is
ordinance
2033.
This
is
updating.
A
Title
ii,
administration
and
personnel
that's
being
developed
up
in
the
city
legal
department
that.
A
That
you
know
have
gone
unaddressed
for
a
long
time
sections
one
through
three
of
this.
A
A
And
it
proved
to
be
difficult
well
because
the
budget
used
to
be
due
in
the
beginning
of
october.
A
Now
it's
due
beginning
of
november,
and
so
we
started
adjusting
earlier
and
now
we're
we're.
A
A
Year,
when
we
adopt
the
annual
calendar,
but
we
and
I've
relied
we've
relied
collectively
on.
A
The
advice
of
our
former
council
attorney
dan
sherman
for
many
years
to
make
this
exception.
A
A
A
Finally,
section
seven,
which
may
be
the
most
controversial:
it's
the
the
one
people
want.
A
To
talk
about
the
most,
it
simply
eliminates
section
2.04.290,
which
altogether
this
is.
A
Appropriation
ordinance
resolutions
generally
are
not
binding.
Sometimes
we
have
a
confirmatory.
A
A
A
A
A
A
Get
the
administration
to
initiate
an
app
board
to
pay
for
it,
so,
in
short,
it
to
my
mind,
there's
no.
A
Way
that
a
fiscal
impact
will
escape
notice,
the
filling
out
of
this
form
is
so
redundant
that
it.
A
A
A
A
A
Major
impact:
what
is
what
is
a
major
impact
on
city
finances?
I
think
people
could
vary
about.
A
Defined
in
code
and
the
concept
again
precedes
modern
city
accounting
methods,
and
I
don't
mean.
A
A
Strike
it
now,
if
someone
thinks
that
we
should
retain
it,
I
know
that
council,
member
piedmont.
A
I
think
that
that
could
be
integrated
as
an
amendment
or
even
before
it's
filed
the.
A
Title
ii
ordinance
that's
being
worked
on
that
will
be
to
come
to
us
in
first
quarter.
A
A
C
D
Of
the
border
commission
shall
ensure
and
so
forth.
My
only
concern
there.
D
That
seems
to
be
to
me
when
things
slip
through
the
cracks.
So
how
might
you
respond
to
that.
A
That's
an
interesting
question.
I
would
say
that
one
of
and
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
want
to
avail.
A
Myself
of
mr
lucas
here
as
well,
but
I
just
want
to
say
briefly
that
one
of
the
things
we're
trying.
A
About
a
city
employee,
officially
designated
not
to
you,
know,
create
a
loophole,
but
if
anything.
A
A
The
council
office
or
the
administration,
that's
working
with
that.
You
know
administratively.
A
F
F
Board
and
commission
process,
but,
as
currently
called
for
by
our
code
when
a
vacancy
occurs,
the.
F
Border
commission
is
supposed
to
write
the
synopsis
and
you
know
I.
I
don't
know
that.
F
F
Liaison
listed
for
each
border
commission
on
the
city's
website
as
a
point
of
contact,
it's
a.
F
Are
the
the
folks
that
would
be
maintaining
the
the
website
and
the
information
on
on
the
website?.
F
For
each
border,
commission,
if
that
helps
sort
of
I
mean
I
I
don't
disagree
and
I
totally
get.
D
Everything
you've
laid
out.
My
only
concern
is
that
word
or
because,
if
either
this
person.
A
A
D
What
triggered
my
question?
I
know:
okay,
okay,
so
food
for
thought,
section:
three,
no
appointments.
F
At
the
city
for
a
long
amount
of
time,
but
I've
not
seen
it
invoked
in
the
time
I
have
been
here.
D
Onto
that
at
some
point
but
yeah,
I
would
just
be
curious
as
to
what
might
trigger
that.
C
Thank
you
any
further
questions.
Councilmemberallo.
E
Yeah
I
had
one:
could
you
clarify
council
president
volun
about
the.
E
The
committee's
council
committee's
meeting
during
breaks
because
we
wouldn't
we.
E
Would
suspend
committee
of
the
whole
from
having
meetings
during
breaks?
Why
would
we.
E
Have
council
committees
like
this
one
meet
during
spring
breaks?
They
they
they
couldn't.
C
Thank
you,
but
tagging
on
to
that
they
they
may
not
consider
legislation,
but
they
could
meet.
A
C
D
Are
there
any
other
round
ones,
or
should
I
jump
in
renown
round
two
jump
in
fiscal
impact.
D
Statements
and
I'd
like
to
invite
controller
jeff
underwood
to
pop
in
on
this
one,
please.
D
G
It
breaks
down
kind
of
as
council
member
golden
talked
about
in
that
different
legis.
You
know.
G
We
do
the
same
thing
with
any
additional
appropriation
ordinance.
So
it's
a
matter
of
we.
G
G
Bring
forward
to
the
administration
anything
else
we
always
include.
So
if
it's
a
fee,
if
it's.
G
G
So
really,
as
as
councilmember
owen
said,
this
is
redundant
and
really
doesn't
add
value.
I
mean.
G
The
form
itself-
it's
technically,
I'm
required
to
look
at
every
one
of
these.
G
G
We
always
solicit,
we
always
submit
memos
with
every
piece
of
legislation.
Those
are
part
of
the.
G
Package,
so
that's
public
information,
so
I
can't
think
of
a
case
where
we
haven't
included.
G
Memo
that
goes
with
it,
that's
included
in
the
packets
that
gets
sent
out,
or
it's
a
part
of
the.
G
Came
up-
and
I
was
talking
with
stephen
lucas
and
we
were
debating
it
internally-.
G
Is
I
couldn't
come
up
with
a
situation
where
it
wouldn't
be?
Because
you
know
it's
typically.
G
Money
that
those
fees
are
going
to
bring
in
so
like
in
utilities,
there's
an
ordinance.
G
G
Later,
if
funds
are
needed
to
fill
in
that
gap
and
again,
there's
the
fiscal
impact.
C
C
Couple
of
times,
and
earlier
with
the
clerk,
it
was
in
any
way
that
a
different
clerk.
C
G
As
council
member
of
old
said,
most
of
the
big
financial
things
that
we
do.
G
C
Okay,
thank
you
any
further
questions
from
my
committee
colleagues
for
either
mr
volun.
C
Or
mr
underwood,
as
the
case
may
be
council
member
rallo,
thank
you.
I'd
like
to
ask
the
sponsor.
E
To
the
public
and
that
the
public
had
time
to
come
to
two
meetings
and
ask
questions.
E
Having
another
committee
meeting,
I
I
I
wouldn't,
and
I
told
councilwoman
piedmont.
A
Smith,
that
I
don't
really
care
if
it
passes
in
one
meeting
or
two,
but
I
think
you've
heard
mr.
A
A
To
figure
out
how
to
renumber
it
and
everything,
but
I
mean
I'm
at
a
loss
to
figure
out
what.
A
You
know
I
mean
I
don't
know
what
else
to
to
do
with
this
language.
It's.
It
seems
useless
literally.
A
E
A
Councilwoman
p
von
smith
will
have
a
chance
to
ask
many
of
these
questions.
If
it's
clear
enough.
A
That
you
know
her
objections,
withstand
scrutiny
and
there
should
be
a
change
to
the
language.
A
A
A
C
Thank
you
and
yes,
councilmember
voldemort
well
just
to
get
a
clarifying
question
in.
A
Customers
gambleri.
If
the
committee
continues
to
a
second
hearing.
A
C
And
I
think
mr
underwood
did
a
good
job
of
clarifying
what
I
was
thinking
and
that
was.
C
C
And
in
my
mind
it's
pretty
clear
but
I'm
getting
other
information
that
maybe
it's
not
as
clear.
C
To
the
general
public,
so
that
would
be
my
only
real
concern.
Did
that
satisfy
what
you
were.
C
Looking
for
councilmember
rallo
as
far
as
input
from
colleagues,
yes
and
I
may
make
a
motion.
E
C
Okay,
we'll
now
go
to
the
public
for
public
comments
on
ordinance,
20-33.
C
C
C
Committee
members
for
final
comments
or
a
motion:
if
council
member
was
so
inclined
to
do
so,.
A
I'm
going
to
abstain,
since
I'm
the
sponsor
of
the
ordinance.
The
one
concern
that
I
had.
A
A
And
council
needs
the
administration
to
provide
a
fiscal
impact
and
they
delay
or.
A
A
A
The
you
know,
fiscal
impact
is
required
to
be
provided
to
the
council,
not
just
that
council.
A
Members
are
required
to
provide
it
so,
but
that
just
gets
so
sticky
that
I
feel
like
this
is
code.
A
Substitute
it
with
new
code
once
it's
ready,
but
there's
you
know,
no
one
is
is
missing
out
from.
A
Losing
this
code
because
we've
never
used
it
so
with
that
I'm
gonna
abstain
tonight.
Thank
you.
E
I'll
make
a
motion
to
postpone
our
deliberations
on
this
to
a
future.
C
And
calling
the
role
council,
member
volin.
C
Abstain,
I
vote
yes,
council
member
scan,
blurry
yeah,
yes,
councilmember
rollo,
yes,
okay
and
the.
C
Motion
passes
three
zero
one
to
be
moved
to
a
future
administration
committee
meeting.
C
A
When
it's
the
next
available
opportunity,
it
depends
on
whether
the
council
approves
that.
F
Provided
hopefully,
next
week,
what
the
council's
schedule
for
next
year
will
look
like
if,
if
the.
F
Committee
wanted
to
clarify
that
if
this
would
be
heard
at
the
next
scheduled
committee
evening,.
C
Date
with
those
possibilities,
as
mr
lucas
just
explained,
do
we
have
any
other
final
comments.