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B
B
B
And
hand
washing
facilities,
I
think
that
that
would
be
a
wonderful
use
of
funds
and
ways
to.
B
D
D
I'm
good
I'm
good
I'd
like
to
echo
miss
honeycutt
and
also
request
that
we
treat
our.
D
Across
the
country-
and
it's
still
not
being
done
in
bloomington
indiana,
so
let's
make
it
happen.
D
D
About
there
being
funds
in
that
budget,
so
let's
see
if
we
can
get
the
parks
and
rec
to
get
that.
D
C
We're
now
moving
to
point
mr
boards
and
commissions.
G
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you
and
person's
9-0.
C
Councilmember
flaherty,
I
believe
we
need
a
reading
from
the
clerks
still.
C
G
G
G
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
J
There
any
problems
associated
with
this
policy
that
you
could
share
with
us.
H
There
is
staff
time
that
is
used
to
implement
these
programs
like
setting
up
the
orange.
H
Drop-Off
zones,
so
we
in
esd
have
tried
to
stay
in
close
contact
with
the
other
departments.
H
To
local
businesses,
including
both
emails
and
going
door-to-door
and
seeing
you
know,.
H
Impact
one
of
the
other
concerns
that
has
been
brought
up,
which
is
something
that
we
are
working.
H
Very
seriously
on
mitigating
is
the
accessibility
of
especially
the
closed
blocks
of
cookwood.
H
So
some
of
the
things
that
we've
done
myself
and
michael
shomis
in
the
city
did
an
of.
H
Since
some
spaces
have
been
blocked
because
of
the
closed
street
and
are
working
with.
H
H
So
for
the
parklets,
we
make
sure
that
they
are
only
in
front
of
the
businesses
that
are.
H
H
About
the
parklet
program
recently,
and
we
do
on
for
each
part-
that's
implemented,
work
with.
H
The
restaurants
and
the
nearby
businesses
to
make
sure
that
there's
still
parking
available
for.
H
Everybody
for
on
kirkwood,
I
have
to
say
that
downtown
bloomington
inc
did
a
really
thorough.
H
Survey
of
each
of
the
blocks
and
was
able
to
find,
for
example,
in
the
walnut
to
washington,
block.
H
Every
business
on
that
block
was
supportive
on
the
done
to
grant
block.
It
was.
H
H
Those
have
since
kind
of
changed
their
minds
and
realized
that
it
can
be
advantageous
to
them.
H
K
Councilmember
rollo
also
ms
goodman,
I
just
I
guess
I
want
to
double
check
an
impression.
I
have.
K
With
you,
it
seems
as
if
downtown
businesses
that
have
a
presence
in
what
was
formerly
the.
K
Street,
like
uptown
and
farm
so
forth,
have
made
some
pretty
significant
investments
and
seem
to.
H
Give
as
much
predictability
as
possible,
we
have
received
really
overwhelmingly
positive.
H
H
Much
predictability
as
possible
and
give
them
as
much
notice
so
that
if
they
are
aware
that
the.
F
I
have
a
question
about
longer
term,
even
than
this
resolution
contemplates
and
wondering.
F
Parklet
program
for
dining
for
restaurants,
as
well
as
kirkwood
closure
or
even
other.
F
Months
of
the
year-
and
I
think
it
speaks
to
what
some
of
what
council
members
gambler.
F
Prior
to
the
pandemic,
it's
that
increased
predictability
allows
a
level
of
investment
that.
F
Their
own
way
to
block
off
parking
spaces,
for
instance,
and
maybe
add
planters
and
other.
F
Things
that
are
really
quite
neat,
so
I've
spoken
to
before
in
the
past,
about
my
support.
F
How
conversations
are
evolving
within
the
city
staff
on
that?
At
this
point,.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
question,
councilman
flaherty.
So
in
some
of
my
outreach
I.
H
Have
received
comments
from
businesses
who
are
using
all
three
of
these
programs.
H
So
I
would
say
that
we're
currently
in
kind
of
a
fact-finding
stage,
I'm
looking
into
logistics.
H
And
pricing
for
what
it
would
just
kind
of
doing
some
research
on
what
that
would.
H
Look
like,
as
far
as
the
parklets
go.
I
definitely
can't
speak
to
you
know
a
goal
of.
H
H
L
Yes,
I
wanted
to
ask
about
the
the
trash
receptacles
that
are.
You
know
on.
L
The
sidewalks
on
kirkwood
and
I've
heard
some
reports
that
they
they
get
overly
full.
H
Yes,
public
works
is
a
way
of
that
and
they
are
emptying
those
more
regularly
and
then.
H
Jammed
and
make
the
trash
can
not
as
usable,
so
there
has
been
outreach.
C
C
Council
member
scan
blurry.
Yes,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
question
from
council.
K
Member
piedmont,
smith
and
share
a
brief
story
regarding
trash
receptacles.
I
was
having
lunch.
K
By
he
didn't
see
our
group-
and
I
saw
him-
stop
take
a
picture
with
his
phone
of
an
overfull
trash.
K
Taken
care
of
it,
so
I'm
sure
adam
isn't
out
constantly
in
that
regard,
but
it
was
just
a
nice.
K
Example
of
something
working
well,
so
I
was
pleased
to
see
that
I
also
wanted
to
share
that.
I.
K
As
well
and
I've
heard
very
robust
discussions
on
that,
so
I
just
want
to
convey
how
impressed
I.
K
K
M
Yes,
thank
you.
I
haven't
had
a
lot
to
say
about
this
because
I'm
very
supportive
of.
M
The
program,
the
way
it's
been
rolled
out,
I
think
it's
met
with
a
lot
of
satisfaction.
M
M
M
M
So
but
most
of
all,
I
appreciate
that
this
is
been
driven
by
the
constituents
of
kirkwood.
M
Tone
to
take-
and
I
just
you
know
I
think
I
predicted
when
this
first
got
passed
in.
M
The
early
part
of
last
year
that
it
was
already
too
short
like
it
we
this
would
be.
M
N
The
warmer
weathers
this
summer,
while
we
are
waiting
for
the
pandemic
to
kind
of
come
to
its.
N
C
Because
of
amber
allen
just
to
weigh
in
to
say,
I
agree
that
it's,
I
appreciate
esd
keeping.
J
Interesting
experiment
to
see
you
know
what
how
how
this
plays
out
and
whether
or
not
something.
J
J
There's
a
negative
downside
to
to
it
trade-off
so,
but
I
will
support
this
this
evening
in
the.
C
C
M
Yes,
rosenberger,
yes,
scandaloury,
yes
and
sims.
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you
that
moves
9-0.
It's
been.
G
G
G
C
Yes,
mr
president,
I
move
that
resolution
21-20
be
adopted.
C
Thank
you,
mr
crowley.
Are
you
here
to
present?
I
am
council
president,
since
can
you
hear
me,
okay,.
O
I
can
hear
you
fine,
thank
you.
So,
with
your
permission,
I'd
like
to
share
my
screen
and
go.
O
Real
america
is
available,
he
is
here
in
case
we
have
questions
for
the
for
the
developer.
E
P
Okay,
if
you
can
give
me
two
minutes,
I'm
going
to
send
it
to
someone
else.
O
Who
can
share
it
for
me,
while
I
talk
one
second,
please.
A
Mr
crowley,
I
don't
know
if
you're
going
to
send
that
to
to
someone
else
in.
A
O
Okay,
so
I
will
just
start
talking
here:
I
I
sent
it
to
mr
lucas
and
to
ms
cooper
smith.
O
So
if
one
of
one
of
them
could
present
what
I'm
presenting
tonight,
so
let
me
start
I'm
alex.
O
Crowley,
I'm
the
director
of
economic,
sustainable
development
and
I
am
presenting
tonight
on
a.
O
O
What
a
what
the
commitment
looks
like
relative
to
some
other
comparable
incentives.
O
O
O
In
this
case,
resolution
2102
by
the
edc
unanimously
recommended
designation.
O
O
From
a
private
owner
for
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars,
we
bought
the
site
and
the
building,
but.
O
O
O
O
O
Occupancy
rate
was
above
97
percent
in
2020,
ihcda,
lieutenant
governor's
excellence
and.
O
Affordable
housing
award
was
awarded
to
real
america
for
their
urban
housing
in
lafayette.
O
O
O
By
rent
a
percentage
of
ami
and
then
one
bedroom,
two
bedroom
three
run
et
cetera.
I
I
won't.
O
Go
through
this
in
detail,
but
but
you'll
see
that
you
know
that
there
are
units
heavily
skewed.
O
And
this
is
just
an
extract
of
some
of
the
of
the
layouts
of
the
building
and
and
and
facade.
O
Views
against
this
preliminary,
but
the
the
you'll
see
on
the
upper
left-hand
side
of
this.
O
Slide
you'll
see
how
the
bedrooms
are
configured
around
the
building.
That's
facing
the
park.
O
Which,
for
those
bedrooms
facing
outward
will
be
a
great
view
what's
on
the
upper
right
is,
is.
O
O
So
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
city's
local
commitment
to
this.
The
primary
commitment.
O
For
a
dollar
that
is
a
total
value
of
795
thousand
dollars,
based
on
the
current.
O
And
recently
updated
real
america
appraisal.
So
I'll
remind
you
that
the
purchase
was
for
800
000.
O
We
are
proposing
a
tax
abatement
of
ten
years
and
you'll
see
the
schedule.
O
Of
10
years,
the
gross
estimated
value
of
the
abatement
is
154
370
and
the
net
present
value
is.
O
O
The
city,
in
addition
to
the
the
two
above
commitments.
O
So
as
we
discussed
briefly
in
ms
cooper
smith's
presentation,
you
know
one
of
the
challenges
with.
O
Evaluating
really
any
kind
of
local
instead
of
package
is
that
you
have
a
lot
of
different.
O
Incentive,
so
what
you,
what
I've
laid
out
here
are
four
recent
affordable
housing
projects.
O
Tax
abatement-
there
are
no
home
or
housing
development
fund
dollars
put,
but
in
addition
to.
O
The
two,
so
that's
a
total
of
one
million
one
point:
we'll
call
it
1.1
million
dollars.
O
O
Which
was
is
now
open
and
operating
on
the
b
line
at
at
the
trades
district.
We
also
had.
O
O
O
Fund
dollars,
so
the
total
of
that
was
750
000
divided
by
36
units
gets
you
to
20
0833.
O
I'll
take
you,
you
know,
sort
of
highlight
quickly,
the
the
other
two
which
are
union
and
crescent.
O
O
Unit
for
affordable
unit
and
seventeen
thousand
two
hundred
dollars
per
affordable
unit
so.
O
You
know
it
does
beg
the
question:
why
is
this
higher
and
is?
Is
that
the
right
mix
is
that
the.
O
One
we
are
correctly
using
nine
hundred
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
land
value
because
in
it
you.
O
Know
if,
if
we
didn't
do
this
here,
presumably
we
could
sell
the
land
for
that
that
amount
so.
O
O
Amount
which
would,
of
course,
reduce
this
this
total
per
unit,
but
we
are
using
9.75
and.
O
Similarly,
the
development
near
the
b
line
would
be
more
expensive,
especially
when
land
values.
O
An
affordable
housing
development
at
one
of
the
most
prime
locations
in
in
bloomington.
O
O
O
Should
also
finally
note
in
this
chart,
you
know
we
have
evolved
our
thinking
over
time,
so
you'll.
O
O
It
should
be
noted
that
the
tax
abatement
values
do
vary
depending
on
these
developments.
O
So
what
happens
next,
were
you
to
vote
on
this
tax
abatement
this
evening
positively.
O
It
would
then
go
into
two
week
public
review
period.
You
would
then
consider
a
confirmatory.
O
Vote
on
the
16th,
the
planned
commission
site
review
and
approval
process
would
take.
O
Us
into
august,
possibly
september
construction
is
expected
to
begin.
O
In
the
third
quarter
and
then
the
project
is
expected
to
open
by
the
end
of
2022.
O
So
that's
my
summary
and
I
am
pleased
I'd,
be
pleased
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
C
Okay,
seeing
none
will
now
go
to
the
public
for
public
comment
on.
C
Resolution
resolution
21-20,
I
would
remind
you
to
please
utilize
the
raised
hand
function
in.
L
Yeah,
I
am
in
support
of
this
tax
abatement
and
this
designation
tonight.
I
think
it's
very.
L
Exciting
to
have
such
affordable
housing
in
a
location
where
people
don't
need
to
rely.
L
L
C
Let's
see
no
further
comments
will
clerk,
please
call
the
roll.
G
Yes,
sims,
yes
and
flaherty.
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Resolution
21-20
is
adopted
nine
zero.
Thank.
C
C
Councilmember
flaherty,
yes,
mr
president,
I
move
that
ordinance
21-30
be
introduced.
G
C
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Councilmember
flaherty,
the
move
that
ordinance
21-30
be
adopted.
K
Second,
thank
you
and
probably
moved
in.
Second,
we
have
mr
zodie
here
to
present
this
evening.
Q
Q
So
I
will
be
brief
in
my
introduction
and
we
are
glad
to
have
this
presented
before
you.
Q
Tonight
for
consideration,
this
was
presented
at
a
work
session
on
may
7th,
with
council
members.
Q
With
some
follow-up
questions,
where
we
researched
and
got
answers
and
forwarded,
you.
Q
A
question
and
answer
for
the
packet
last
week
for
the
housing
committee,
which.
Q
Q
Q
The
tenants
had
signed
that
that
is
no
longer
allowed
to
be
distributed
under
state
law,
so.
Q
So
it
doesn't,
we
don't
believe
this
impacts,
the
tenant,
landlord
relationship
and
and
telling.
Q
This
is
allowable
under
the
law
to
ask
for
this
affidavit,
so
the
previous
document.
Q
Session
it
kind
of
comes
down
to
process
and
enforceability
and
how
we
can
better
track.
Q
The
issue
of
over
occupancy
one
of
the
issues
that
we
brought
up
last
week
in
the
in
the
housing.
Q
Q
Q
We
need
better
tracking,
we
need
better
data
to
really
understand
how
to
best
track.
Q
Collect
better
data
so
that
we
can
track
the
issue
of
over
occupancy
better
across
the
city.
Q
Landlords
are
not
interested
in
over-occupation,
it's
it
endangers
their
their
permits
and.
Q
Q
Q
Q
See
in
the
packet
and
look
at
different
pieces
of
that
that
work
and
maybe
cumbersome
and
figure.
Q
Q
Amenable
to
that
in
the
department,
just
the
you
know
the
more
communication,
the
better
on.
Q
This
for
the
attendance
and,
of
course,
we've
heard
some
feedback
from
the
landlord
community.
Q
To
kind
of
streamline
it
better,
but
the
bottom
line
is,
we
believe
this
helps
all
parties
involved.
Q
If
you
have
them,
thank
you
and
let
me
finish
by
thanking
daniel
dixon
from
city
legal.
I'm.
Q
C
I'm
sorry
mr
flaherty
councilman
flaherty,
I'm
just
wondering
procedurally,
do
I
go
to
council.
F
At
this
point
sounds
like
a
plan
and
we'll
go
to
council
for
questions
on
ordinance,
21-30.
R
C
R
Okay,
I
was
just
going
to
keep
it
really
brief
and
I
think
mr
zodie
already
covered
most.
R
Everything
that
we
talked
about
in
the
committee
meeting
you'll
see
with
our
amendments.
We.
R
R
And
then
about
council
member
piermont
smith
talks
about
studying
the
affidavit
every
year.
R
C
R
R
R
This
ordinance,
the
whereas
clause,
says
over-occupancy
and
residential
rental
units.
R
Of
this
policy,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
homes
throughout
the
city
that
have
more
than
three,
you.
R
Three
occupancy
of
unrelated,
so
you
know
like
five
bedrooms
with
five
adults
or
whether
it
be.
R
Owner-Occupied
units
with
many
more
people
in
them,
so
it
just
sort
of
sounded
like
if
this
was
a.
R
Danger
to
and
to
neighbors
or
people
living
in
the
house,
it
would
be
a
danger,
no
matter
what.
L
L
C
And
particularly
with
some
of
the
particular
rental
single-family
homes
painting
a
different.
C
Picture
that
it's
not
consistent
comes
the
mayor
of
flaherty.
Do
you
have
anything
to
add.
C
For
comment
public
comment
on
amendment
one-
I
will
remind
you
this
is
for
amendment
one.
Only.
C
And
or
sending
a
note
to
our
meeting
host
indicating
your
desire
to
speak,
mr
lucas.
S
S
S
S
This
market
brief
point
of
order,
mr
fig,
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify.
F
And
ask
our
president
for
clarification
that
this
public
comment
period
is
only
on
amendment.
F
One,
which
is
the
second,
whereas
clause
being
struck
from
the
ordinance.
I
think
I
just
got.
F
C
Q
That
council,
member
rolo,
we
are,
we
don't
believe
this
amendment
changes
the
functional.
Q
C
C
Thank
you
amendment,
one
of
ordinance,
21-30
is
adopted
nine
zero.
I
do
believe
we
have
a
second.
L
Yes,
thank
you.
So
this
amendment
is
co-sponsored
by
myself
and
council
president
sims
and
it.
L
Within
the
ordinance
as
written,
it
says
that
if
there's
no
change
in
occupancy
since.
L
L
L
L
The
form
so
that
it's
clear
why
the
city
is
asking
people
to
sign
this,
and
I
just
felt
that.
L
And
to
affirm
that,
with
a
signature
I
think
has
value
in
you
know
conveying
that
message
that.
L
That
we
have
policies
for
a
certain
reason.
You
know
for
the
the
welfare
of
the
community.
C
C
From
one
year
to
the
next
will
still
have
to
comply
by
signing
an
updated
affidavit,
and
I
just.
C
Okay,
council,
member
clarity,
yeah
we'll
be
able
to
ask
for
staff
toy
and
as
well.
Q
We
prefer
the
ordinance
as
written,
where
the
landlord
the
property
owner
could
say.
Q
Q
Told
her
is
to
sponsor
the
amendment,
but
we
are
okay
with
that.
The
preferred
route
for
us
would
be.
Q
The
ordinance
as
written
just
because
it
would
allow
for
a
more
streamlined
process
with
the.
Q
Affidavit
with
some
of
the
feedback
I
heard
today
of
conversations
with
one
person.
There
is
a.
Q
Q
Maybe
one
step
makes
it
a
little
onerous
in
our
minds
a
little
more
own
risk.
Q
Would
prefer
it
to
be
as
written,
so
we
would
not
support
the
amendment
but
respectfully.
Q
Have
stated
why
so
thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
member
bowling.
M
Yes,
I'd
like
to
follow
up
to
mr
zoe's
comment,
so
I
guess
maybe
the
concern
I
have
that.
M
Councilman
p
ron
smith
articulated
is
the
nature
of
the
the
audi
the
audience
the
clientele
for.
M
The
majority
of
housing
in
blooming
of
rental
housing,
the
students
are
in
fact,
typically.
M
People
who
I've
said
in
previous
meetings
find
themselves
having
to
move
every
year.
Do
you
I.
Q
Q
We
take
in
in
the
department,
I
think,
the
most
one
of
the
most
valuable
ideas.
That's
come
out
of.
Q
That
and
and
it
will
make
it
obviously
user
friendly
so
that
it's
not
pages
and
pages
of.
Q
Q
For
people
in
bloomington,
so
it's
a
communications
exercise
there,
and
so
we
just
feel
from
a
more.
Q
But
we
feel
like
from
a
paperwork
standpoint.
You
know,
we've
got
the
rental
permits,
we've
got.
Q
M
That
we
no
longer
can
re,
circulate
the
rights
and
responsibilities
form.
So
there's
it's
not
an.
M
Q
Q
If,
if
tenants
were,
if,
if,
if
the
tenants
were
asked
to
sign
each
year
rather
than
the
landlord
or.
Q
Q
Q
T
Hi,
can
you
hear
me
yes?
Yes,
I
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
john's
statement.
Q
Q
An
example,
maybe
what
you're
talking
about
if
I
may,
and
I
would
have
had
to
sign
the
affidavit.
Q
Landlord
saying
I've
had
some
changes
here
so
otherwise,
if
I
live
there
again.
Q
Or
if
he'd
stayed
there,
this
as
written
would
not
require
a
change
in
the
affidavit.
It's.
Q
C
Leases
are
signed
every
year,
correct,
I
would
say
typically
and
not
always.
C
C
And
I
do
value
the
education
part
so
not
to
be
argumentative
at
all,
but
I
don't
see
a
real.
C
Q
Q
Of
the
lease
I
think
we
are
not
able
to
you
know
we
want
to
make
this
as.
Q
Q
Q
Q
It
if
you
will,
because
we
don't
have
any
and
daniel
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
here,
we
all
have.
Q
Q
Q
But
that
answers
your
question.
Well,
I
I
see
your
point,
but
I
was
just
comparing.
C
Way
so
I
don't
again,
I
don't
see
it
as
owners
or
extra
yeah
and
I
think
it's
important
that
even.
C
Still
a
good
thing,
so
thank
you
very
much
for
your
comment.
Do
we
have
any.
T
C
Tonight,
do
we
have
any
further
questions
from
council
to
the
sponsors?
Okay,
saying
none
will
go.
C
C
Or
you
can
send
our
meeting
post
a
note
in
chat
indicating
your
intent
to
speak,
and
this
is
on.
C
Amendment
2,
not
the
entire
ordinance
21-30
and
before
we
get
started.
Mr
lucas.
C
C
A
Figg
had
his
hand
raised
from
from
an
earlier
period,
but
he
would
be
up
first
and
should.
A
C
U
Thanks,
my
name
is
greg
alexander.
I
just
wanted
to
say
it's
not
uncommon
for
at
least.
U
For
me
to
do
this
exactly,
like
mr
zodie
said
it's
just:
we
shouldn't
penalize
multi-year
tenants.
M
For
three
years
I
was
quite
proud
of
it,
but
I
had
different
roommates
each
year,
so
you
know.
M
You
know
a
renewal
of
the
statement,
but
I
mean
I
know
also
from
my
experience
that
my.
M
I'm
entertaining
to
know
is
also
a
landlord
too.
You
know,
like
maybe
there's
a
way
we
can
make
it.
M
A
little
bit
simpler,
but
I
I
don't
think
that
this
is
a
federal
case
and
there's
so
much
education.
F
I
appreciate
the
intent
and
the
goals
of
the
sponsors
only
voting
against
the
amendment.
I.
F
I
I
think
it
we
tend
to
think
of
this
ordinance
as
addressing
a
particular
population.
F
F
Lot
of
people
have
month-to-month
leases.
People
have
leases
that
automatically
renew
and.
F
Other
things
and
to
mr
roland's,
our
consumer
rolling
point
points
in
pretty
much
all
the.
F
You
know
he
mentioned
he
was
the
exception,
not
the
rule,
but
in
the
rule
that
he's
implying.
F
There
all
of
those
would
require
an
affidavit
already,
so
I
think
for
the
audience
or
the
type.
F
Some
of
the
minorly
burdensome
elements
of
this
for
folks,
I
think
we'll
probably
hear
about
that.
F
F
Something
to
balance-
and
I
I
just
think
the
ordinance
is
drafted
is
better
without
the.
R
It
there
was
a
period
of
time
where
I
was
a
landlord.
Now
I
live
in
my
house
again,
but.
R
Every
year
on,
the
landlord
is
enough.
I
mean
they're
still
doing
that
work,
so
they're
still.
R
That
the
tenants
don't
have
to
sign,
so
I
feel
fine
with
it,
as
is
so,
I
will
be
voting
now.
C
G
C
Thank
you
amendment,
one,
I'm
sorry
amendment
two
for
ordinance
21-3
passes
five
to
four
now.
C
We
will
go
to
ordinance
21-30
as
amended
and
we
will
go
to.
C
I
do
believe,
mr
lucas,
I'm
sorry,
mr
flaherty,
are
we
on
public
comment.
F
C
Okay,
seeing
councilmember
clarity.
Yes,
I
did
have
a
question
for
staff.
F
And
we
received
another
email
this
evening,
I
think,
on
behalf
of
or
with
the
interest
of
of.
F
Landlords
in
mind
sort
of
either
either
requesting
that
they
had
had
more
input
or.
F
What
interactions
his
office
had
had
with
landlords
or
or
the
apartments
association.
Q
Apartment
association
we've
received
feedback
here
today
I
spoke
to
mr
figg
on
the
phone
today.
Q
C
To
the
public
for
their
public
comment
on
ordinance
21-30
as
amended,
please
use
the
raised.
S
S
S
S
S
S
We've
we
really
have.
I
also
feel
like
the
fee
structure,
the
penalty
in
that
in
the
ordinance.
S
S
S
Otherwise,
it
not,
it
doesn't
work
so
also
with
the
penalty
on
this,
the
email,
notification,
email.
S
S
S
S
S
S
C
U
Stupid
for
me
to
go
and
hassle
my
tenant
every
year
for
no
reason
I
anywho
I
I
urge
you.
U
To
oppose
this
ordinance,
it
is
adding
a
meaningless
hurdle
and
service
a
bad
policy.
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
C
21-30,
as
amended
council
member
flaherty,
actually
another
question.
I
I
just
wanted
to.
F
Or
other
interactions
with
with
folks
either
with
the
department's
association
or
otherwise.
I.
F
I
know
he
mentioned
that
there
was
opportunity
for
collaboration
on
on
the
forum
going.
F
Uncomfortable
voting
on
the
ordinance
tonight
because
I
think
some
some
reasonable.
F
With
those
folks
or
alternatively,
here,
maybe
here's
some
of
those
concerns
addressed,
so
I
guess.
F
To
frame
the
question
more
specifically,
mr
zodie,
do
you
have
any
more
specific
responses
to
to.
F
Any
of
the
the
concerns
that
mr
fig
raised
in
his
comment
sure
thank
you.
Councilmember
flaherty.
Q
The
the
the
fine
concern
is
is
a
range,
so
it's
no
more
than
five
hundred
dollars.
It
could.
Q
He's
expressing
concern
about
being
high,
so
that
would
be
the
response
on
the
define
issue.
Q
On
the
mail
versus
email,
the
e-signature
stuff
and
some
of
the
other
concerns
he
and
I
discussed.
Q
Today,
those
are
considered
to
be
operational
things
that
we
can
talk
about
as
long
as
the
the.
Q
Ordinances,
you
know
it's
within
the
confines
of
the
ordinance,
some
of
those
administrative.
Q
Q
Q
So
and
daniel-
I
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
to
add
there
on
how
the
form
would
be
adjusted.
T
Perjury
issue:
that's
in
the
the
template
form,
as
mr
zodiac
discussed
earlier.
K
Yes,
thank
you
a
couple
questions
just
to
help
me
think
through
this
first,
as.
K
With
that
for
hand,
I
would
have
to
go
back
to
you
on
that
council
member
scandaloury.
I.
Q
Permits
and
what
we
have
in
rent
pro,
which
is
our
database
there
brent
pierce,
is
on
in
case
he.
Q
K
K
Q
As
the
ordinance
is
written,
and
I
will
that
I
want
to
defer
immediately
to
my
colleagues.
Q
Q
Q
That's
up
to
the
council.
I
know
it
is,
but
but
so
we'll
respect
the
discretion
of
the
council.
Q
Here
I
think
we
can
work
to
collaborate
to
work.
Some
of
these
issues
out,
I
won't
say,
I'm
not
going.
Q
To
say
you
all
know
me,
I
won't
promise
things
I
can't
deliver
on,
but
I
feel
pretty
confident.
Q
Q
Member
piedmont
smith
about
some
of
the
things
that
we'd
want
to
put
on
there
and
I'm
a
in.
Q
Agreement
that
more
communication
with
tenants,
the
better,
so
we
think
we
could
get
it
going.
M
Thank
you
yeah.
I
share
the
concerns
that
my
fellow
colleagues
have
already.
M
M
Why
is
it
that
a
rental
cycle
inspection
cannot
be
scheduled
over
email?
I'm
glad
you
brought.
Q
I
I
I
I
I
can
address
that
to
john
zodie,
if
that's
okay,
sure
so
in
in
my
going
on,
I
believe
seven.
I
I
I
This
point
probably
hundreds,
if
not
a
thousand,
you
know
emails
about
this-
that
type
of
information.
M
Okay,
that's
it
for
me.
Thank
you.
V
Yeah,
I
I
want
to
ask
two
things.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
ask
the
parliamentarian:
can
we
just.
V
Or
I'm
happy
to
weigh
in
or
president
sims
can
we
can?
We
do
that
to
give
everybody
time
to.
F
A
housing
committee
meeting
there's
any
number
of
options
that
that
we
we
could
take
and
yeah.
F
I
suppose
we'd
want
to
avoid
calling
the
question
for
a
vote
if
it
was
the
will
of.
V
V
J
Think
that
unless
you
see
the
full
screen,
you
don't
see
everyone
to
the
parliamentarian
do.
J
We
need
to
have
a
date
in
mind
and
can
we
provide
direction
in
terms
of
the
hand
department.
J
Have
this
a
dialogue
with
the
landlord
association.
F
Yes
and
may
need
confirmation
from
mr
lucas
here
as
well.
I
I
believe
we.
F
Would
be
determined
yeah,
but
I'm
not
sure
about
that.
Mr
lucas,
do
you
have.
J
J
Needed
to
be
a
bit
more
discussion-
and
you
know
they
hopefully
could
be
arranged,
as
would.
J
Q
I
don't
want
to
speak
out
of
turn
here,
but
I
would
encourage
the
council
to
fix
a
date
where
we.
Q
Q
Operationally
for
us
to
have
a
timeline
fixed
with
our
stakeholders
in
the
community.
Q
That
that
we're
proposing
talking
to
as
well
as
I
do
want
to
just
speak
on.
Q
J
You
that
would
be
fine
if
that's
that,
I
think
that
that
is
about
us.
To
be
honest,
if
I
may
that's.
Q
About
as
far
out
as
I'd
want
to
go
just
with
getting
this
moving
and
and
making
sure
we're.
Q
M
Point
of
order
that
the
be
appropriate
for
the
motion
to
be
to
put
it
to
be
a
motion
to
postpone.
M
To
a
particular
date,
the
I
think
that
we
could
consider
postponing
to
june
16th
and
then
we
can.
M
Always
decide
to
postpone
again
if
we
don't
think
it's
ready
and
the
appropriate
thing
is
to.
M
C
Councilmember
scrambler,
I
would
echo
those
thoughts
as
I
think
about
what
we
have
to
cover.
K
Like
the
creation
of
an
arpa
fund,
for
example,
and
we've
already
done
a
lot
of.
K
K
K
Is
quite
a
ways
away,
and
so
I
would
be
supportive.
N
N
N
C
And
that
is
for
june
16
correct
yes,
and
we
move.
We
postpone
ordinance
21-30
until
june.
E
G
Thank
you
yeah.
How
does
that
make
it
10,
00
or
90.,
we'll
pass
it
9-0
and
we'll
review
this.
C
Again
on
the
16th
now,
mr
parliamentarian,
that
ends
our
second
readings
and
resolutions.
F
Which,
I
think
would
include
introductions
and
referrals
to
committee
if,
if
any
motions
are.
C
I'm
not
so
sure
for
for
any
for
the
motion
to
introduce
or
if
we
have
any
motions
to
refer.
F
To
committee,
under
the
first
readings
section,
those
will
just
need
to
pass
with
the.
F
C
We
do
have
legislation
for
first
reading.
Yes,
mr
president,
I'd
like
to
move
that
ordinance,
21-25.
C
It's
been
properly
moved
in.
Second,
please
follow
the
role
council,
member
rosenberger.
G
F
Yes,
mr
president,
did
you
wish
to
send
this
second
reading
or
a
committee?
No,
no,
no.
C
Okay,
thank
you
well
waiting
to
see
anything
yes,
okay,
thank
you.
We
do
have
more.
E
Yes,
rosenberger,
yes,
thank
you
thank
you
and
that
passes
nine
zero
for
the
clerk.
Please
read.
G
G
G
G
G
C
G
C
C
C
G
G
A
A
Yes,
thank
you.
I
don't
have
any
any
items
for
you
tonight,
just
a
reminder
that.
A
C
And
your
thoroughness,
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn.
I'm
sorry,
council,
I'm
sorry.
I'm
sorry.
A
To
mention
the
ps
lit
committee
I
did
want
to
mention
this
is
looking
to
schedule
its.
A
First
meeting
and
and
that
may
be
happening
sometime
next
week
so
for
the
council
members.
A
That
are
serving
on
that
committee.
Please
watch
your
emails
for
for
information
about
that.
A
C
To
meet
virtually
up
until
our
recess
until
was
that
the
16th.
C
But
yes,
thank
you,
council
members
kemballer.
We
will
meet
virtually
for
the
next
two.
C
And
that
may
also
apply
to
a
work
session
should
it
happen
before
that.