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Blizzard
conditions
throughout
the
midwest,
the
other
is,
if
you
haven't,
if
you
have
the.
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Now
available,
your
third
covet
booster,
it's
back
on
the
the
increase.
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are
some
people.
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Your
covet
booster,
when
you
can
thank
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you,
councilmember
sims
report.
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Thank
you,
council,
member
scandaluri.
Yes,
three
quick
items
this
evening.
First,
at
the
request
of.
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You
one
important
topic
that
was
raised
at
council,
member
sandra
birds
and
and
my.
F
Constitution
meeting
was
pedestrian
crossing
on
7th
street
and
I
think
that
we
should
consider.
F
About
in
the
meantime,
I
I
might
come
forward
with
legislation
in
the
in
the
coming
weeks
or.
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Committee
and
there's
some
nice
details
in
here
about
our
numbers
and
things
like
that.
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It's
a
real
undertaking.
We've
really
grown
through
our
almost
five
decades.
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G
You'd
have
to
raise
your
hand
in
the
reactions
or
more
tab.
If
you
have
issues
doing
this,
send
a.
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I
Graduated
be
sworn
in
by
judge.
Well,
probably
judge
harvey
after
the
first
of
the
year
and.
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I
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G
He
says
people
need
help
shoveling
because
they
need
help
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
dove.
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J
There
is
one
change
to
this.
As
the
clerk
mentioned,
it's
a
fire,
a
change
to
fire
titles.
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Everything
else
related
to
ask
me,
though,
the
title
change
in
the
fire
department,
the
position.
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K
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
I'm
very
glad
that.
K
J
K
At
my
budget
hearing
notes-
and
I
didn't
take
note
of
that-
and
the
gain
sharing
option.
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L
K
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M
M
J
J
J
M
Okay,
thank
you
and
if
we
do
get
the
grants,
how
will
that
be
handled?
Do
you
have
a
question.
J
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M
J
J
J
J
That
up
and
get
back
to
you,
I
covered
that
in
20
to
2383
budget
hearing
1529
sounds
right.
J
J
J
And
it
was
a
decent
increase
because
of
the
the
cost
of
living
yeah
increase.
J
Okay,
if
you
could
just
confirm
that,
along
with
the
the
funding
source
well-
and
I
hope
I
remember.
J
A
K
Also
thank
ms
shaw
and
everybody
involved
in
the
negotiations.
The
people
from
ask
me
as
well.
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A
A
A
A
F
Oh,
that's
quite
all
right.
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
I
think
this
was
mentioned
by
a
number.
F
Hearings
so
that
we
have
a
full
idea
of
impact-
and
I
wanted
to
thank
mr
shaw
for
all
of
her
work.
F
B
A
Very
good
welcome
mr
souter
good
evening:
virgil,
sauder,
director
of
animal
care.
N
Amount
has
come
from
looking
at
our
previous
full
year's
figures
in
this
case,
that
is
from
2021.
N
N
N
F
Thank
you,
mr
souter,
director
souter.
I
my
question
is
on
a
topic
that
I
often
revisit.
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N
Thank
you
for
that
and
in
2021
we
took
in
about
of
our
total
animal
intake
for
that
year.
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N
N
N
Was
higher
than
previous
years,
so
it's
some
of
that
could
be
due
to
the
pandemic
and
changes.
O
Madam
president,
yes,
please
could
you
define
the
director
sutter
an
animal
in
need,
so
we
don't
turn.
N
That
is
needed.
We
won't
turn
those
away
if
they
are
providing
those
care,
we'll
ask
them
to
hang
on.
N
N
M
Report
for
the
last
couple
years,
at
least
that
I'm
aware
of
we've
had
discussions
on
some
sort.
M
Of
a
wildlife
management
plan,
specifically
with
deer
or
the
development
of
such
a
plan,.
M
Or
am
I
misremembering?
No,
we
have
talked
about
this
before
you
should
have
information
coming.
N
To
you
shortly,
if
you
don't
already
from
what
both
my
division
and
public
works.
N
Currently,
they
are
both
paying
us
directly
into
the
controller.
So
we
have
we.
N
To
come
up
with
each
entities
portion
gotcha,
thank
you
additional
questions.
Seeing
them
we
go.
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F
It,
madam
president,
yes,
madam
president,
I
move
that
resolution
22
22
be
introduced
and
read
by.
B
Okay,
yes,
council,
member
sandberg,
yes,.
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B
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
K
So
what
is
the
joint
board
that
is
represented?
You
know,
through
the
building.
K
K
It
came
from
council
staff,
so
I
don't
know
if
ash
coulat,
certainly
that
would
be
so
like.
A
R
R
Has
stated
here:
that's
not
the
case
and
so
apologies
for
any
confusion
that
that
caused.
K
K
These
okay
and
then
my
second
question
is,
I
think
I
I've
asked
this
the
last
few
years.
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Q
Q
Q
B
D
B
B
B
B
A
A
Q
Q
Q
Q
B
B
D
You
know
we
have
big
decisions
to
make
it.
Maybe
not
all
decisions
can
be
made
tonight,
but
four.
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F
B
B
B
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B
B
A
R
R
So,
regardless
of
whether
the
council
is
ready
to
act
on
this
ordinance
tonight,
I
would
suggest.
R
That
going
ahead
with
public
comment
and
holding
that
public
hearing
should
happen.
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S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
T
T
T
T
T
T
The
mayor
alluded,
you
know,
as
has
been
well
discussed,
a
portion
of
the
bomb
proceeds.
T
Because
that
purchase
price
exceeds
five
million
dollars,
the
redevelopment
statute
requires
that.
T
The
property
the
purchase
agreement
be
approved
by
the
council
prior
to
such
purchase,
so
for
this.
T
Move
forward
with
purchasing
showers.
Lastly,
again
just
to
touch
quickly
on
the
on
the
bond.
T
Sale
itself,
following
the
the
december
7th
council
meeting,
at
which
the
bond
ordinance
was.
T
That
was
about
70
basis
points
below
what
was
estimated
in
the
pre-sale
kind
of
financial.
T
Seven
percent,
so
it's
very,
very
good
results
for
the
city,
as
was
sort
of
feared
at
the
time.
T
Rates
until
the
the
inflation
target
is
below
two
percent
buzz
crone
with
crone
associates.
T
Is
also
on
this
evening,
so
I
think
once
we
get
to
the
question
and
answer
session,
if
you.
T
Have
more
questions
on
the
financial
side?
Buzz
will
likely
be
able
to
to
address
those
as
well.
T
Thank
you,
and
now
I
believe,
turn
it
over
to
is
it
deb?
Are
you
on.
U
I
think
I
think
my
I
think
the
police
chief
actually
is
going
to
go
next.
A
V
Here
tonight
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
purchase
of
showers,
we
are
in
desperate
need
of
more
space.
V
A
lot
of
rain
water
around
the
building
that
seeps
in
and
it's
still
it
still
is
an
issue.
V
To
be
able
to
continue
to
provide
the
the
services
and
house
the
the
the
programs
that
we
have
in.
V
V
V
V
V
W
W
W
W
W
W
X
I
believe
I'm
next
debkins,
I'm
with
js,
I'm
a
vice
president
with
js
hub
and
I've
been
an.
X
X
X
X
Were
reminding
me
that
costs
are
not
going
down
cost,
unfortunately,
even
though
they.
X
Their
feds
keep
raising
the
interest
rates
there
is,
it
is
still
not
changing
so.
X
X
X
X
X
X
Was
what's
been
happening
with
the
study
information,
and
I
want
to
pull
up
screen
here.
X
Can
we
see
that
yes
good?
So
the
question
came
up
about
timeline
and
the
I
would
say
maybe.
X
X
X
X
X
Also
are
going
to
have
a
couple
of
significant
supply
chain
issues,
the
generator,
for
instance,
for.
X
X
Chain
challenges
that
we
continue
to
have
in
our
industry.
It
is
you
know
the
design
phase.
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
Ios
certification
is
going
to
be
back
in
in
the
spring
of
24.
I
look
at
these
time
frames
and
think.
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
Slide
as
well,
I
I
think
you
know
when
you
look
at
these
options,
as
was
stated,
I
firmly.
X
X
X
X
X
X
I've
been
asked:
well,
why
are
they
quit?
Why
are
the
equipment
costs
when
you
look
at
this.
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
U
Yeah,
so
I
did
have
conversations
with
andrew
seymour
and
with
scott
robinson
about
him
and.
X
X
Discussed
frankly,
some
they
liked
some
they
didn't
like
so
we'll,
but
that
I
know
that.
X
They
will
be
integral
players
in
that
discussion.
I
mentioned
that
you
know
when
police
are.
X
There
are
many
please:
even
your
fire
station
crosses
the
b
line
at
one
of
your
fire
stations.
X
X
S
S
E
It
seems
to
me
that's
the
only
free
option
that
can
help
us
with
ingress
and
egress.
X
Use
lights
to
stop
that
that
is,
would
be
a
minimal
cost
that
I
think
we
have
got
200.
X
X
A
D
For
the
presentation
for
everyone
just
to
be
perfectly
clear
in
the
case
that
eventually
the.
D
S
D
To
see
a
20
000
foot
level,
something
that
is
not
every
single
jot
and
tittle
every
nail,
but.
D
D
D
Thousand
foot
level
was
the
kind
of
thing
that
happens
after
a
site
is
chosen,
and
I
said
well.
D
D
For
the
purchase
of
the
showers
building,
the
offer
expires
january
31st.
What
problems.
S
Well
I'll,
let
ms
koontz
answer
in
a
moment,
but
an
extra
month
won't
give
us
much
more
information.
S
X
D
Least
two
of
my
colleagues
are
interested
in
sitting
down
between
now
and
our
first
regular.
D
D
You
know
like:
is
there
a
problem
with
us
more
fully
understanding
these
numbers?
I
would
suggest.
S
D
S
S
D
Mr
mayor,
all
I
know
is
that
the
council
has
been
considering
this
question
for
two.
D
S
We
have
provided
architecture-based
expert-based
analysis,
that's
been
done
over
a
period
of.
S
Months
we
shared
that
four
weeks
ago
in
a
written
form
with
all
of
you
in
significant
detail.
S
S
S
S
S
S
F
The
mayor
offered
us
to
ask
questions.
I
have
one
plan
b
would
involve
ex
renovation
and.
F
Don't
purchase
the
the
showers
building
that
the
administration
will
provide
the.
S
F
C
C
S
C
Assumptions
and
cost
cost
estimates
and
trying
to
unpack
those
a
bit
more
cosmo
revolin.
C
Police
than
what
the
city
administration
has
provided
to
us,
I
think
I've
seen
that
as.
C
The
administration
be
in
a
position
tonight
to
respond
to
their
comments,
as
well
as
what
your.
C
S
Architects
and
construction
engineers,
but
we'd
be
happy
to
react
to
those
and
and
again
defend.
S
K
Rehab
and
expansion
of
the
existing
bpd
facility-
I
and
I
did
speak
with
ms
koontz
earlier
today.
K
K
Option
which
would
be
to
just
rehab
and
do
without
reconfiguring
the
current
police
station.
U
X
Thank
you,
and
so
is
your
last
yeah
your
last
question.
I'm
sorry,
I
should
have
answered
the.
X
X
Yes,
absolutely
there
could
be
you,
we
might
find
that
in
the
lower
level
we
keep
the
corridor.
F
Services,
after
all,
that
everyone
depends
upon,
wouldn't
it
be
prudent
to
separate
these.
S
Whether
it's
our
911
center,
or
whether
it's
the
city
hall,
or
whether
it's
whatever
might
be
be.
F
D
A
D
D
D
You
say
you
and
councilman
campbell
lurie
have
been
able
to
keep
track
of
keep
up
with
all
the.
D
M
Sure
I
really
appreciate
that
at
all.
Let's
talk
about
my
question
has
to
do
with
future
expansion.
M
X
X
That
initial
police
headquarters
and
initial
fire
headquarters,
there's
about
18
000
square.
X
V
As
annexation
talks
and
and
everything
continues,
you
know,
obviously
we
would
be
adding
people.
V
V
Dros,
our
patrol
division,
so
it's
spread
out,
but
if
we
are
fully
staffed
and
then
we
start
adding.
V
I
can't
give
you
a
specific
number,
but
you
have
been
provided
numbers
I
think
as
to
annexation.
If.
V
Would
add
at
several
several
more
officers
to
the
force?
Okay,
those
numbers
include
possibly.
Y
The
additional
one
of
the
things
that's
hanging
me
up
is
the
additional
square
feet.
That
r
is
in.
Y
Showers,
if
the
move
takes
would
take
place,
so
I
think
so
we're
spending
public
safety
money
and
so.
Y
S
Tell
you
how
I
think
about
it.
I
view
it
as
a
bonus
investment
in
the
future,
where
public
safety.
S
S
Y
S
S
To
upgrade
it
improve,
it
do
the
best
we
can
with
that
facility
and
then
and
that's
it.
S
S
A
Handed
some
additional
information
about
cost
estimates,
so
I
don't
know
if
the
council
wants.
A
To
hear
from
the
fop
representatives
in
a
more
some
substantive
matter,
almost
similar
to
a.
A
M
M
G
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
I'll
wrap
up
with
two
observations:
I'm
going
to
go
two
seconds
over
time.
Just
one
observation.
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
To
satisfy
the
significant
extensive
seismic
design
requirements,
also
I'd
like
to
bring.
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
AB
AB
I
will
tell
you
that
these
line
items
the
way
that
they
were
obtained
and
the
cost
estimates.
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
I'll,
let
you
look
through
it
and
and
see
specifically,
I
am
welcomed.
I
welcome
any.
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
F
F
U
X
X
X
X
X
X
Continue
to
be
an
occupancy
group
two
for
when
it
is
the
headquarters
for
police
and
for
fire
and.
C
Fiscal
legal
issues
etc
that
we
might
run
into
by
moving
this
back
close
to
a
month.
C
With
respect
to
the
appropriation
of
bonds,
we've
already
issued,
you
receive
proceeds
from
option.
C
L
C
To
say
there
are
costs
associated,
but
nothing
catastrophic.
With
respect
to.
K
L
There
he
is,
mr
underwood
underwood
city
controller,
no,
not
at
this
late
date.
We.
K
Is
there
what
what
are
our
legal
obligations
to
make
those
payments?
Can
we
delay
in
making
them.
AC
But
typically
within
bonds,
you
know
it
gets
appropriated
when
you
approve
the
sale
and
and.
AC
Get
those
paid
within
a
couple
of
weeks
of
the
bond
closing
so
but
no
more
than
30
days.
AD
AD
S
S
Y
Okay,
so
financial
expert-
that's
who
I
that's
that's,
who
I'd
like
to
ask
this
question
to.
Y
And
forgive
me
for
asking
it,
but
the
difference
in
the
figures
that
you
know
we
we
got.
Y
Just
a
little
bit
ago,
in
the
figures
that
we
are
presented
with
with
the
three
different
options.
Y
At
these
numbers
and
resolve
this
one
says:
20
million
the
other
one.
You
know
it
says
a
lot
more.
C
C
AE
AE
Is
there
I
mean
I
feel
like?
Normally,
there
is
maybe
a
deadline
for
a
purchase
agreement.
AD
AD
Eager
to
get
going,
I
think
the
other
aspect
of
it
that
mr
griffin
also
negotiated
as
part.
AD
AD
D
Some
you
know
the
there's
a
precedent
for
what
the
administration
is
proposing.
D
D
D
D
Is
the
same
building
it
was
built
at
the
same
time,
the
there's
still
due
diligence
work.
D
All
the
work
that
we
think
we
need
to
do
to
vet
this,
and
I
don't
see
this
is
any
different.
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
Or
the
counter
proposal
from
police
union,
I
recommend,
in
addition
to
approving
this
motion,.
D
D
D
D
D
All
interested
in
those
details-
I
am
not
a
yes,
and
I
am
not
a
no,
but
I
cannot
be
a
yes
tonight.
D
C
Could
get
through
the
the
spreadsheet
that
the
fop
representatives
shared
with
us
there's
only
a.
C
That
substance
in
this
meeting,
that
is
the
purpose
of
which
is
to
dig
into
that
substance.
C
So
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
to
the
taking
more
time.
But
there's
other
considerations
here
and.
C
D
D
At
city
council-
and
I
mean
if
mr
flaherty
wants
to
stay
until
midnight,
we
could
do
it.
D
D
F
Yes,
I
agree,
I
think
that
more
time
is
needed
and
I
support
the
motion
just
quickly.
I
I.
F
I'm
highly
skeptical
of
the
of
the
ingress
egress
challenges
that
showers
to
begin
with.
F
F
Comparable,
I
I
think,
that's
a
very
difficult
proposition,
I
think,
for
officers
and
if
I
don't.
F
F
That
to
moving
to
showers
is
advisable
for
that
reason,
but
there
are
other
questions
as
well.
F
Poston
mr
rogers
has
stated
I
tend
to
think
that
might
be
accurate
and
I
need
to
investigate.
F
Floating
decimal
right
now,
I'm
intrigued
by
the
drain
option
for
the
existing
headquarters
to.
F
F
F
F
F
A
A
A
B
B
Okay,
ordinance
2238
to
amend
the
city
of
bloomington
zoning
maps
by
rezoning
at.
B
A
With
looks
like
ms
jackie
scanlon
is
here
to
present
good
evening.
I
am
just
a
second
here.
AG
AG
Fullerton
pike
and
interstate
69
87.12
acres,
that
is
currently
zoned
mixed-use
employment.
AG
A
new
county
jail
facility,
the
property-
is
here
it's
vacant.
Currently
it
is
zoned
me.
AG
That
is
for
the
purpose
of
being
able
to
build
a
jail
facility
at
this
location.
AG
Construction
and
sold
much
of
its
topsoil
for
that
purpose,
and
so
a
different
body
solid.
AG
At
that
time
this
was
a
number
of
years
ago
when
I-69
was
coming
through
and
so.
AG
AG
Our
larger
rezone
of
the
entire
city,
that
is
when
it
was
rezoned
to
an
e
which
is
in
line.
AG
AG
Of
area,
that's
12
percent,
slope
or
less,
and
then
much
of
the
rest
of
the
land
is
restricted
in.
AG
Some
way,
so
this
is
a
bit
of
a
concern
to
the
department
being
that
we
have
heard
a
number
of.
AG
Size
requirements
from
the
petitioner,
one
of
which,
being
over
40
acres
for
being
able
to
develop.
AG
Building
a
large
facility
that
would
need
to
be
able
to
be
accessed
by
members
of
our
community.
AG
Petitioner
did
indicate
that
they
were
going
to
be
working
with
them
on
that
so
having
this
area.
AG
Be
rezoned
for
a
specific
purpose,
a
purpose
that
highly
that
heavily
depends
upon
being.
AG
AG
A
concern
for
the
department
that
we
raised
with
that
we
raised
with
the
plan
commission.
AG
Additionally,
with
access,
as
many
of
you
know,
through
subdivision,
the
subdivision
process,.
AG
If
you
have
a
roadway
on
your
property,
that
is
in
the
transportation
plan,
which
was
adopted.
AG
By
this
body,
you
have
to
build
that
road.
This
petition
and
though
in
discussions
that.
AG
We've
had
with
the
county
about
potential
site
development.
Do
not
include
a
subdivision
at
this.
AG
Commission
that
there
is
a
roadway
plan
for
this
property,
so
were
they
too
want
to
subdivide.
AG
In
the
future,
they
need
to
be
thinking
about
that
and
how
they
will
incorporate
that
into
any.
AG
They
can
waive
through
the
planned
commission
process
so
wanting
to
keep
that
in
mind,
because.
AG
AG
Zoned
mixed-use
employment,
which
seems
to
more
support
the
goals
of
the
employment
center.
AG
Employment
center
designation,
as
well
as
part
of
the
focus
area,
outlines
in
the
comprehensive.
AG
AG
Good
access
to
maine,
thoroughfares
and
transit
service,
so,
while
mi
can
provide
opportunity.
AG
AG
Does
encourage
what
the
comprehensive
plan
is
desiring
here?
More
already,.
AG
I
will
also
point
out:
we
there
has
been
some
discussion.
There
was
some
discussion
at.
AG
Klan,
commission
there
isn't
a
plan
for
exactly
what
will
go
here
that
the
county
is
seeking.
AG
AG
In
the
past
requested
that
type
of
information,
especially
when
something's
being
rezoned
for
a.
AG
Purpose,
that's
already
known
so
in
this
case
there
have
been
a
lot
of
potential
uses,
discussed.
AG
In
the
comprehensive
plan,
some
of
those
uses,
for
example,
would
be
some
of
the
uses.
The.
AG
AG
AG
Kind
of
assess
whether
or
not
site
design
could
be
appropriate
here
for
this
use.
Additionally,.
AG
AG
Of
being
put
forward
with
the
request
for
the
rezone
that
we
haven't
really
seen,
information.
AG
Backing
up
those
assumptions
so
again
hard
for
the
department
to
feel
like
that,
we
can
give
an.
AG
Informed
support
for
this
type
of
request,
not
only
because
it
doesn't
match
the
comprehensive.
AG
Plan
goals
but
because
some
things
are
so
unclear
still
so
you
saw
this
in
the
report,
but.
AG
For
example,
a
number
of
the
documents
submitted
you
know
have
wide
ranges
of
how
much
acreage.
AG
Especially
to
to
arguably
not
be
in
line
with
comprehensive
plan,
we
didn't
feel
like
there
was.
AG
Necessarily
enough
information
presented
for
staff
to
be
able
to
support
that
request
again.
AG
So
I
have
just
included
here
the
general,
the
general
compliance
criteria
and
those
other.
AG
Findings
of
fact
that
are
considered
by
the
department
and
then
the
plan
commission.
When.
AG
AG
AG
AG
That
that
we've
missed
something
this
was
the
information
that
was
presented.
AG
Environmental
situation
on
the
site,
but
when
the
planning
commission
made
the
recommendation.
AG
To
you,
they
did
not
have
that
available
to
them
and
I
think
the
main
crux,
the
main
point
we.
AG
AG
Comprehensive
plan
designation
for
this
location
and
what
we're
giving
up
by
by
on
by
making.
AG
This
area
no
longer
employment
focused,
which
is
what
the
comprehensive
plan
has
designated
as.
AG
AG
So
the
plan
commission
heard
the
petition
for
two
months
ending
in
november
and
it.
AG
Recommended
the
excuse
me
petition
on
to
common
council
with
a
negative.
AG
AI
AI
AI
AI
AJ
AJ
County
attorney,
jeff
cockrell,
will
provide
you
a
quick
overview
of
our
project.
This
has
come.
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
Do
that,
but
I
just
wonder
why
the
onus
is
on
us
in
this
through
this
planet.
Mr
cockrell.
AK
And
jeff
cockrell
a
county
attorney.
AK
End
of
the
presentation,
so
I
put
together
this
presentation
that
kind
of
help,
through
some
of
the.
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
With
that
you're
correct,
but
we'll
we'll
do
the
study
right
and
so
I'm
going
to
read.
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
250,
which
was
a
dramatic
improvement-
I
looked
on
monday
and
it
was
under
170.,
so
I
think
we're.
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
Later
so
I'm
going
to
reserve
that
until
then,
so
we
wanted
something
long
enough
that
you
know
I.
AK
AK
AK
To
make
sure
we
fill
the
gaps
as
necessary,
so
we
want
to
want
something
long
enough
to
handle.
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
That
I,
that
I
think
was
shown
on
the
this-
the
city
planning
staffs
map
that
they
demonstrated.
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
They
expect
it
to
be
completed
in
2025.
that
this
will
have
vehicle
vehicular
traffic
and.
AK
Be
able
to
grow
and
to
have
a
reasonable
size
site.
I
think
when
we
provided
information
to
the.
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
Growth
in
the
population
in
the
county,
from
the
2010
to
2020
census,
population
growth.
AK
AK
Way
or
another
causes
some
kind
of
thoughts
from
the
county's
perspective.
AK
That
property,
but
it
is
allowed
brew,
pub,
distillery,
winery
and
restaurant.
I
think
we.
AK
Retail
sales,
including
fuel
stations,
allowed
there.
I
think
the
the
idea
of.
AK
AK
In
the
half
of
the
of
the
of
the
jail
block
that
hadn't
been
built
out
with
cells,
and
so
they.
AK
AK
AK
AK
Conditional
use
in
a
jail
is
a
conditional
use,
and
I
say
that
because
these
are
three
things
that.
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
The
railroad
tracks
are
vacant,
but
they
are
certainly
it
wouldn't
satisfy
the
conditional.
AK
AK
And
finally,
the
plant
commission
struggled
with
with
the
nature
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
AK
So
I've
I've
put
a
couple
of
and
I'll
read
the
quotes
from
the
the
cases.
A
comprehensive
plan
is.
AK
AK
AK
AK
Property
is
unique
within
the
county.
I
think
that
that
this
gives
you
the
ability-
and
I
think.
AK
It
gives
you
the
obligation
to
consider
it,
and
if
you
agree
with
what
we've
said,
then
I
think.
AK
AK
A
D
D
AK
D
Well,
I
mean,
I
guess
I
should
maybe
start
by
asking
the
question:
is
it
the
express
desire
of
the.
AK
D
And
an
acre
is
65
000
square
feet.
You're
saying
you
need
to
increase
it
by
about.
AK
D
D
D
AK
D
AE
I
I
just
thought
that
the
two
presentations
did
not
really
match.
AG
AG
Is
government
government
use
property?
Often
you
know
like
indian
university
other
things.
AG
And
everything
listed
under
the
retail
sales
uses,
so
all
of
our
typical
retail
none
of.
AG
Because
the
comprehensive
plan
does
talk
about
retail
uses,
so
I
don't
know
if
I
just
miss.
AG
AG
What
but
the
other
uses
are
not
office
is
allowed
here.
So
yes,
if
they
wanted
it
to
just.
AG
Be
offices,
then
they
wouldn't
need
the
result.
The
rezone
is
needed
because
of
needing
the
jail
or.
AG
AK
AK
AK
A
Councilmember
bolin,
yes,
did
the
county
intend
to
subdivide
and
sell
some.
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
We
need
to
go
through
a
master
planning
phase.
We
need
to
see
what
that
looks
like
you
know,.
AK
D
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
So
the
commissioners
last
march
put
together
a
resolution
that
said:
hey
we'll
we'll
hold
that.
AK
I
think
even
more
recently,
I
think
even
this
fall.
I
think
I
I
know
I
had
a
conversation
with.
AK
Is
it
really
augmented
by
by
this
use
there?
I
think
that
there's
also
honestly
vehicular
access.
AK
Issues
you
know,
I
think
we'd
really
need
to
look
at
the
the
only
roadway
that
would
allow
for
to.
AK
Street
to
where
it
opens
up,
and
that's
also
where
a
duke
utility
easement
is
and
then
you
know.
AK
AK
AK
K
How
many
acres
does
the
county
own
at
that
location?
It's
similar
80
to
90.
AK
C
AK
AK
I
don't
think
that's
a
terrible
guess
at
this
point.
Okay
and
I
guess
what
I'm
getting
at.
C
I
have
a
handful
of
cost
questions
related
and
what
I,
what
I'm
getting
at
is
a
part
of.
C
Our
consideration
here
is,
is
the
suitability
of
this
location,
which
necessarily
involves
the.
C
Question
of
alternatives,
so
thinking
about
alternatives,
and
you
you
quoted
the.
C
The
kenray
report
in
your
presentation
about
remediation
of
the
current
facility.
C
But
also
so
cost
prohibitive
might
not
be
the
operative
word
also.
It
said
a
provisional.
C
C
C
That
appendix
and
those
cost
estimates
that
level
of
details,
because
it's
sort
of
been.
AJ
AJ
Treatment,
which
is
really
what
we
want
to
focus
on,
and
an
important
thing
to
remember,
is
that.
C
There
are
a
lot
of
negatives
or
cons
associated
with
the
proposed
site.
It
may
well
be
justified.
C
C
AK
AK
AL
I'm
just
trying
to
clarify,
I
guess
what
what
information
is
missing
from
the
report.
Well,
that.
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
C
C
To
defer
to
another
member,
I
would
do
that
go
ahead,
so
you
mentioned
that
more
more.
AK
AK
For
a
full
report
on
that,
but
that
that
request
would
have
just
been
made
a
week
or
two
ago.
AK
AK
E
E
About
the
site
located
near
catalan,
but
what
about
other
properties
out
outside
of.
E
City
limits,
in
particular
the
ones
I'm
interested
in:
where
are
they
and
why
were
they
rejected.
E
AK
AK
South-
and
we
looked
at
that-
one
that
one
would
have
we
would
have
had
to
deal.
AK
AK
AK
Think
it
had
the
proper
sizing,
but
it
didn't
have
as
good
a
vehicle
vehicular
access.
You
know.
AK
We
never
got
that
far
right
because
of
these
other
issues,
another
one
we
looked
at
was.
AK
Off
vernal
close
to
curry,
that
site
was
again
large
enough.
The
the
biggest
problem.
AK
AK
A
Let's
see
council
member
rosenberger
did
you
have
another
question?
I
have
another
question.
AE
It
is
about
transit.
Commissioner
thomas
asked
the
question:
what
are
you
going
to
do.
AE
About
transit,
as
in
the
city
and
from
my
past
experience
here
on
the
council.
AE
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
AK
A
A
AE
AK
AK
Follow-Up
is
well.
Why
are
people
released
at
that
time
in
such
low
numbers,
my
hypothetical,
which.
AK
AK
AK
M
AJ
We're
looking
at,
we
have
a
purchase
order
on
the
table
with
this
one
parcel
owner
we've.
AJ
AJ
It
was
still
warm
outside,
so
it's
been
a
while
and
and
had
a
really
constructive
conversation.
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
Trying
to
tell
you
where
we're
at
I
understand
that,
but
I
will
say
there
was
a
little
pushback.
M
M
M
Start
a
conversation
but
here's
my
question
before
I
get
chastised
from
a
public
engagement
or
a.
AI
The
problems
kind
of
con
concern
them
very
personally,
rather
than
being
some
look.
M
AI
Of
it
and
that
there
were
a
lot
of
unknowns
that
they
felt
that
that
there
were
problems.
AI
That
could
occur
that
haven't
yet
been
addressed,
but,
for
example,
well
mostly
just
most
of
what.
AI
AI
D
Hi
there,
one
of
the
things
that
councilmember
smith
and
I
talked
about
when
looking
at
the
site.
D
D
D
AG
AG
You
want
us
to
do
so
to
if
you
wanted
us
to
add
the
use,
jail
or
tension
facility
to
emmy.
You
could.
AG
Request
that
we
that
we
do
that,
so
if
we
were
to
turn
down
this
this
rezone
but
then
file
an.
D
AG
Yes,
so,
mr
smith,
as
the
representative
on
planned
commission,
did
ask
that
of
director.
AG
Robinson
after
the
first
appearance
by
the
county
at
playing
commission
and.
AG
Yes,
the
issue
with
doing
that
would
be
the
ex
the
extension
of
time.
So
then,
I
think
okay.
D
Yeah,
so
yes,
okay
to
the
commissioners
or
the
county
in
general,
have
an
opinion
of
this
idea.
AK
Previous,
our
our
deadline
for
our
purchase
agreements,
the
end
of
this
year,
I
think
we.
AK
Change
the
me
zoning,
then
we
would
be
more
than
happy
to
probably
I
guess,
the
the
other.
AK
AK
With
with
your
planning
staff,
to
say,
hey,
what
would
you
categorize
these
uses
as
and
making
sure.
D
D
No,
the
public
defender's
office,
that's
with
the
plaza
in
front
of
it,
that
building
facing
morton.
D
Street
is
8
000
square
feet.
The
county
could
build
up
on
it,
move
a
bunch
of
offices
into
it.
D
D
AK
The
answer
is,
I
don't
think
we
considered
that
I
think
that
and-
and
I
you'll
have
to
give.
AK
D
D
That
is
30
000
square
feet
owned
by
the
county
that
could
be
built
on
that's
63,
000
square.
D
Half
that
you
said
you
needed
to
to
accommodate
all
the
cells
that
you
need.
I
mean
I
know
it's.
D
A
Comedy
we
can
come
back
for
other
questions
afterwards,
in
my
role
as
on
the
planned.
Y
Commission
and
discussions
with
mr
cockrell
and
and
and
city
staff
it
it
appeared
that
the.
Y
Y
Y
Y
That
this
is
the
path
forward
for
them
to
begin
this,
if
the
council's
so
agrees
that
this
is
a.
Y
Y
G
G
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
Has
that
same
complaint
sync,
commissioner
thomas
was
just
making
the
cost.
We
spend
up.
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
There
are
a
number
of
reasons
for
that,
but
but
this
placement
of
me
on
this
is
not
a
new
venture.
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
A
But
you've
been
you've
got
too
many
people.
I
can't
go
on
so
10
seconds
just
to
end
the
sentence.
AM
AM
A
AN
AN
Speaking
more
as
a
former
reserve,
sheriff's
deputy
I've
worked
in
the
jail
before
under
sheriff.
AN
Sharp
and
kennedy,
and
have
seen
the
conditions
in
there.
You
know
this
would
allow
the
county.
AN
To
move
forward
in
getting
inmates,
you
know
better
services
and
better
better
conditions.
AN
County
mines,
spending
untold
hours
and
really
years
on
this
subject,
and
you
know,
would.
AO
Hi,
my
name
is
sydney
foreman.
I
think
rezoning
this
site
for
a
new
jail
is
rash
and
has
not.
AO
Topic
tonight,
the
routes
that
are
proposed
to
the
site
mean
that
it
will
at
least
take
time
to.
AO
AO
AO
Day
does
very
much
matter
that
they
have
a
way
to
get
home
as
well
majority
of
the
responses.
Oh.
AO
AO
AO
AO
AO
AO
AO
AO
AO
AO
AO
AO
AO
AO
AO
AP
Hello-
and
I
will
not
need
my
five
minutes-
my
name
is
natalia
galvin.
I
serve
as
the
president.
AP
AP
AP
AQ
AQ
AQ
AR
Thank
you
so
much.
I
I'm
sorry,
I
can't
appear
I
it
seems
to
be
made
technically.
AR
Impossible
by
the
structure
of
the
call,
but
I'm
grateful
for
the
opportunity
to
to
comment.
AR
AR
AR
AR
AR
AR
Judges,
judicial
staff,
attorneys
and
others
to
go
to
local
restaurants,
shops
pay
for
parking
and.
AR
AR
AR
AR
A
net
loss
in
employment
there
as
well
and-
and
I
was
I
want
to
just
make
a
comment
as
well-
about.
AR
AR
AR
AR
AR
AR
A
AS
AS
AS
AS
AS
AS
AT
AT
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak.
AT
Public,
I
know
that's
been
mentioned
several
times
before,
but
I
do
think
it
is
important
that.
AT
The
comprehensive
plan
plan,
additionally,
the
inaccessibility
of
the
fullerton
pike
location.
AT
To
those
who
are
transportation
and
secure,
even
though
it's
on
I-69
and
that
may
be
great.
AT
For
an
ambulance
going
up
to
indianapolis,
we
need
to
also
be
thinking
about
the
people.
AT
Who
are
at
risk
for
being
incarcerated?
How
are
they
going
to
get
to
the
jail
and
and
I-69
is
not.
AT
Going
to
help
with
with
that
further
its
distance
from
the
courts
and
probation
offices.
AT
AT
Wheeler
and
so
on.
Even
if
all
the
courts
and
offices
were
moved
down
to
fullerton
pike,
which.
AT
Again
would
have
a
huge
impact
on
downtown
all
those
service
providers
are
still
downtown
and
so.
AT
AT
Criminal
legal
system-
for
I
guess
the
sake
of
time
I
will
expand
on.
I
guess
two
of
these
issues.
AT
Within
the
criminal
legal
system,
firstly,
as
as
has
has
been
mentioned
before
in
this.
AT
Use
of
the
land
would
contribute
more
to
the
public
safety
of
our
community
than
would
a
jail.
AT
As
lee
jones
noted
often
jail
makes
things
worse
at
traumatizes
people.
It
does
not.
AT
Employment
does
so.
I
would
ask
the
the
council
to
consider
that
and
as
noted
in
the
the.
AT
Packet
prepared
for
the
plan
commission,
another
25
to
40
plus
acres
of
developable
properly.
AT
AT
To
the
survey
that
the
prosecutors
and
public
defenders
offices
conducted,
one.
AT
AT
AT
AT
AT
Yeah,
there's
a
lot
more.
I
think
that
could
be
said,
but
I
guess
in
the
interest
of
time.
AT
A
AU
AU
AU
Care
not
yeah
care,
not
cages.
I
agree
with
this.
I
think
it's
a,
I
think.
It's
a
reasonable
platform.
AU
And
detox
center,
as
proposed
uses
for
the
land.
Unfortunately,
I
don't
recall
this
being
part.
AU
And
I
hope
that
continues
yeah.
That
aside,
I'm
just
generally
concerned
about
the.
AU
AU
AU
AU
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
that's
like.
What's
the
word,
a
gene
relevant
whatever
yeah.
AU
AU
AU
That
they
hired,
which
you
know
the
consultants
asked
that
quote
the
county.
AU
AU
And
I
think
that's
really
relevant
here.
I
think
it's
a
huge
it's
a
huge
change
from.
AU
The
comprehensive
master
plan
and
they
should
have
a
good
reason
for
doing
it.
Yeah.
AU
AU
AU
AU
So
it
feels
like
a
lot
to
approve
this
right
now
yeah.
I
just
also
want
to
say
the
arguments.
AU
AU
AU
Without
delay,
which
yeah
we
could
talk
about
that
in
detail,
I'm
happy
to
but
yeah
this
just.
AU
Doesn't
really
hold
out
yeah
and
just
again
that
just
you
know
the
idea
that
incarceration.
AU
And
yeah,
I'm
just
going
to
finish
by
reading
something
from
someone
within
the
criminal.
AU
AU
G
AV
AV
A
concern
for
me,
but
also
I
am
on
the
I'm,
a
member
of
care,
not
cages,
I'm
on
the
board
of
new.
AV
AV
Read,
first
and
foremost,
we
believe
that
the
conversation
has
over
indexed
on
building
a
new.
AV
AV
AV
AV
AV
AV
AV
AV
AV
So
I
just
want
to
just
underscore
that
we
can't
staff
our
current
jail.
This
is
not
an.
AV
Employment
opportunity
for
our
community
to
rezone
this
property-
this
is,
is
while.
AV
Then
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
spending
transporting
people
is
a
concern.
A
lot
of.
AV
People
are
released
from
incarceration
wearing
exactly
what
they
were
when
they
were
incarcerated.
AV
A
G
AW
AW
In
monroe
county's
incarceration
system,
I
want
to
begin
by
saying
that
I'm
really
just
shocked
by.
AW
Had
that
I
personally
find
offensive,
I
don't
want
to
speak
rashly
though,
and
I
did
spend
quite.
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AW
AY
Hi,
my
name
is
maggie
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
brief
comment.
I
feel
like
there
was
a
lot.
That's.
AY
AY
AY
AY
A
D
Express
my
opinion.
The
first
question
that
came
up
here
is
the
concern
that
anyone
has.
D
D
D
000
square
feet
that
could
house
offices
related
to
the
justice
complex
step,
two
existing.
D
Into
a
jail
again,
the
footprint
of
that
building
is
33
000
square
feet
if
they
were
also
to
take.
D
Over
showers
west,
the
the
showers
plaza
that
we
talked
about
in
the
previous
thing.
That's
32.
D
D
D
Not
well
designed
and
when
they
rebuild
build
with
a
jail
on
the
bottom
floors
or
just
make
it.
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
In
and
around
the
jail,
so
that
is
what
makes
me
most
disappointed.
They
even
said
that
they.
D
D
D
D
A
Question
or
comment
comment
actually
and
I'm
not
sure
I
could
top
that
one.
E
For
this
particular
site
and
the
intended
project-
wouldn't
at
least
some
of
this.
E
M
Anymore,
but
thank
them
too.
First
of
all
what
we've
been
asked
to
do
is
to
consider
the
result.
M
I
mean
that
that's
we're
talking
about
a
lot
of
stuff.
Rezone
is
what
we've
been
requested
to
do.
M
We
don't
always
follow
them
to
the
t,
but
that's
what
they
do
and
I'll
take
that
seriously.
M
Just
remember
that
now
I've
heard
my
comments
about
the
term
transit
for
example.
What
are
you.
M
M
Will
talk
about
that
later,
the
u.s
criminal
justice
system
jail-
I
mean,
let's
just
face
this.
M
M
M
M
When
I
asked
a
question
earlier
about
board
of
judges,
public
defenders
prosecutors
that.
M
M
M
M
And
what
is
best
for
all
of
us?
What
is
best
for
all
of
us,
so
it
it
would
be.
M
We
we
need
a
campus
just
like
with
public
safety
earlier
we're
talking
about
campus
for.
M
M
M
People
out
of
being
incarcerated
as
much
as
possible
years
ago,
and
some
somebody
in.
M
One
of
the
biggest
causes
for
people
that
in
particularly
people
of
color
and
poorer
people,.
M
M
M
M
A
We
keep
them
brief,
councilmember
rosenbarger
very
much.
I
will
try
to
just
add
into
things
my
com.
AE
AE
AE
AE
Member
sims
says
a
lot
of
times,
it
is
us
and
us-
and
I
think
quite
often,
this.
AE
That's,
I
think,
all
that
I
have
the
last
piece
that
I
don't
think
has
been
said.
Yet
we
did.
AE
K
Yes,
I
just
think
this
is
a
terrible
location
for
a
new
jail.
K
It's
it's
the
comparison
with
a
business
and
how
we
would
accommodate
transportation
for
a.
K
A
Council,
member
flaherty:
let's
try
to
keep
it
brief.
I
won't
be
supporting
this
tonight.
I
agree.
It's.
C
A
poor
location
for
many
of
the
reasons
cited
two
things
to
follow
up
on
one
is
that
I.
C
C
Think
that's,
it
would
show
a
lot
to
to
do
that
and
I
think
we
can
reach
a
much
better
more.
C
C
Up
on
an
appropriate
in-depth
assessment
of
of
rehabilitation
renovation,
what
that
looks
like.
C
It
sounds
like
at
least
judge
crawley
and
councilor.
Crossley
have
been
requesting
that.
C
So
I
think
that
needs
to
be
explored
meaningfully
as
well.
Again,
I
think
it's.
C
C
C
Diligence
that
would
give
us
confidence
about
whether
or
not
it's
possible
or
not,
and
as
opposed.
C
C
A
It's
it's
my
pleasure
to
be
able
to
welcome
community
input
like
this.
It's
very
valuable
for.
A
G
In
case
there
are,
if
there
are
members
on
zoom
who
wish
to
comment,
you
need
to
raise
your.