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A
I
am
hereby
calling
this
meeting
to
order.
Tonight
is
a
regular
session
to
be
followed.
A
By
a
committee
of
the
whole
on
wednesday
august,
18th
2021
will
the
clerk
please
call
the
roll.
B
Okay,
I'm
here,
thank
you,
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
We
will
proceed
with
the
agenda.
A
Summation
for
this
evening,
we'll
have
approval
of
minutes.
Afterwards,
then
we'll
have
reports.
A
A
A
Proceeds
for
the
renovation
of
affordable
housing
regarding
crestmon
community
1002,
north
summit.
A
A
Is
set
aside
for
this
section,
then
we'll
deal
with
matters
of
council
schedule.
A
A
A
Okay,
I
do
believe
we
have
minutes
to
approve.
A
A
September
9th
2020
september,
23rd
2020.
will
the
clerk
please
call
the
roll.
D
A
E
Notice,
as
most
people
know,
I
have
monthly
constituent
meetings
on
the
first
saturday.
E
Of
every
month,
in
the
month
of
september,
that
falls
on
labor
day
weekend
and
so
we'll.
E
E
E
F
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
habitat
for
humanity,
restore.
F
F
G
Several
of
us
to
attend
and
be
a
part
of
their
lively
discussion,
part
of
their
presentation.
G
G
G
A
I
J
A
Collegial
that
was
very
refreshing
to
me
where
people
wanted
to
talk
as
well
as
listen.
A
So,
thank
you
very
much,
but
to
the
rest
of
my
comments
has
to
do
with
our
august.
The
fourth.
A
Posted
council
meeting,
as
many
of
you
know
that
that
was
to
be
a
hybrid.
A
Meeting
which
was
in
person
as
well
as
one
zoom
even
prior
to
that.
Obviously
those
of
you.
A
Completed
in
advance
of
the
governor
lifting
his
emergency
order,
but
we
did
anticipate
that.
A
A
Approximately
one
hour
later,
I
will
say
this:
first
of
all,.
A
A
Day
and
particularly
with
regard
to
the
corona
binder
corona
virus
and
some
of
its
variants.
A
On
this
decision
that
was
made
by
this
body
and
if
there's
anyone
out
there
that
wishes
to
discuss.
A
Any
of
this
with
me,
you
can
contact
me
and
as
long
as
it's
collegial
and.
A
Non-Argumentative,
I
will
be
happy
to
discuss
potentially
the
things
that
led
to
that
decision.
A
A
For
that
now
we'll
move
on
to
do
we
have
any
reports
from
the
mayor
or
any
other
city
offices.
A
A
A
K
K
K
L
L
L
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
colt,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you.
I
did
have
the.
A
Pleasure
of
meeting
mr
culp
adam
function
at
switch
yard
park
and
I
not
only
was
impressed.
A
A
Chat
for
those
who
wish
to
partake
of
that
was
that
all
from
the
mayor's
office
and
city
offices.
A
I'm
watching
just
it's
fine,
okay,
I'll!
Just
wonder
if
you
had
any
reports
this
evening.
A
Okay,
seeing
none
thank,
you
will
now
move
to
the
public
for
any
public
comment.
A
If
you
would,
please
indicate
your
intentions
to
have
public
comment
and
then
we'll
decide
the.
A
Length
of
time
to
a
lot,
I
will
remind
the
public
that
you
can
indicate
your
desire
to.
A
Or
and
or
the
reactions
button
to
indicate
your
desire
to
speak
with
us.
A
A
Of
your
intent
to
for
your
desire
to
speak,
if
you
can't
get
through
those
ways
and
if
you're.
A
Using
a
mobile
device
phone,
I
believe
you
can
indicate
that
by
star
nine,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,.
A
During
this
section
for
a
limit,
a
maximum
of
20
minutes,
okay,
who
do
we
have
ready
to
go.
D
First,
up
and
and
before
I
unmute
folks
I'll
just
note
that
there
is
a
timer
that
we
can.
M
Our
watershed
management
plan
this,
if
you
will
recall
the
city
of
bloomington,.
M
M
M
Gotten
a
commitment
from
monroe
county
storm
water
for
forty
nine
thousand
five
hundred
and.
M
Sixty
six
dollars
match
for
the
support
of
the
watershed
coordinator
and
also
a
commitment
from.
M
M
M
M
And
we
want
to
continue
to
support
her
in
that
work.
So
I'm
here
just
to
ask
if
the
council.
M
Can
do
anything
to
help
move
this
forward
that
I
think
the
community
would
be
very
appreciative.
M
A
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
If
there
is
no
hope
so
I
have
a
story
last
week
at
the
worst
overgrown
part
of
the
sidewalk.
N
N
A
O
Irvine
hi
there
thank
you
and
thank
you,
everyone
for
taking
the
time
to
listen
to
me
today.
P
Yeah,
so
my
name
is
tina
urban.
I
live
in
the
spicewood,
2
neighborhood
and
I
believe.
P
P
P
P
I'm
familiar
with
the
2012
report
and
its
conclusions
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
that.
P
Multiple
deer
in
my
neighborhood
every
single
day,
they
are
a
common
occurrence
and
I'm
also.
P
A
runner,
so
I
very
often
see
the
same
deer
when
I
start
my
run
at
the
top
of
sail
road
in.
P
P
About
the
public
health
risk
that
this
is
really
posing
not
only
in
terms
of
animal
welfare,
but.
P
P
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
really
good
reasons
to
at
least
bring
up
the
issue
and
I'll
just
kind.
P
P
D
Q
Q
Because
it's
still
pointed
to
as
a
resource
for
people
who
live
here
to
report
things.
A
A
Before
we
move
forward
we'll
just
thank
the
public
for
their
comments.
Now,
we'll
move
on
to.
A
Yes,
thank
you
to
the
historic
preservation
commission.
Will
the
clerk
please
call
the
world.
I
We,
the
council,
approves
the
mayor's
appointments,
it's
kind
of
like
a
double
double
duty,.
I
A
Okay,
thank
you,
council
member
scrambler.
Before
we
go
with
the
roll
call,
I
will
check
with
our.
A
Parliamentarian,
councilman,
clarity
and
mr
lucas:
can
we
proceed
without
having
a
specific
seat.
C
Usually
for
their
recordkeeping
that
we
try
to
specify
and
usually
you.
A
Okay,
just
for
tracking
purposes,
in
order
to
proceed.
B
Yes,
council,
member
rosenberger.
B
B
A
R
B
And
rosenberger,
yes,
thank
you
that
has
passed.
B
Sure
appropriation
ordinance
2101
to
appropriate
from
the
arp
coronavirus,
local.
B
A
A
Been
probably
moved
in.
Second,
I
see
that
we
have
corporate
corporation
council,
miss
philippa.
A
S
I'll
give
you
a
little
synopsis
of
how
we
got
here
tonight,
since
it's
been
a
couple
of
weeks.
S
So
this
is
again
the
ordinance
the
appropriations
ordinance
for
2021.
S
Correct
me,
but
and
that's
about
11
million,
so
we
are
proposing
expenditures
in
this
app
board.
S
What
we
did
with
the
cares
act
that
also
required
a
separate
fund,
and
that
was
approved
june
16th.
S
Resolution
2125
and
you
may
recall
that
the
plan
is
currently
the
list
of
proposed
2021.
S
Expenditures
that
you
will
now
be,
I
hope,
agreeing
to
appropriate
so
that
what
the
plan
reflects.
S
Is
what
the
ordinance
has
adopted
as
appropriations
so
that
they
are
consistent?
So
in.
S
The
2021
expenditures
are
detailed
in
the
appropriations
ordinance
and
they
are
again.
S
S
S
S
Is
actually
appropriating
those
funds
that
were
transferred
from
the
ifa
corona
virus
fund.
S
So
that
is
the
appropriations
ordinance
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
I'm
happy
to
answer
them.
A
Do
we
have?
Are
there
any
questions
from
council
members.
H
Yes,
thank
you.
I
had
a
question
about
the
funding
for
the
bloomington
housing
authority.
H
To
explore
a
possible
land
trust,
and
I
just
wanted
to
I
see-
miss
scoby-
is
on
the.
T
We're
doing
with
our
rad
conversions
and
also
to
build
new
housing.
So
we
have
been
building
the.
T
Capacity
of
both
the
bha
staff
and
summit
hill
first
through
those
rad
conversions,
so
completing.
T
That
those
who
are
living
in
the
units
meet
those
appropriate
qualifications
for
the
program.
T
T
T
We
know
there
are
some
opportunities
with
both
the
core
building
being
selected
as
the.
T
Doing
all
of
the
behind
the
scenes
sort
of
establishing
the
community
land
trust.
H
Thank
you.
So
do
I
understand
from
what
you
just
said
that
the
the
summit
hill
community.
H
Development
authority
is
has
had
a
successful
proposal
for
the
redevelopment
of
the
core.
H
Building
we
did
respond
to
the
rfp
for
that
and
we
haven't
been
kind
of
officially
named.
T
But
we
were
the
preferred
developer
just
waiting
on
the
rdc.
I
believe.
T
And
some
other
logistics
around
the
iu
hospital
site,
but
summon
hill
bha
along
with
brinshaw.
T
H
Other
follow-up
question:
yes,
councilmember
smith,
so
the
250
000
for
bha
to
work
on.
H
What
do
you
envision
the
funds
to
be
used
for
so,
ideally,
it
would
help
fund
a
staff
position.
T
Of
consulting
and
legal
fees,
so
how
we
set
our
organization
up
to
be
a
community
land
trust.
T
A
Mr
lucas,
I
I
certainly
don't
want
to
cut
off
any
questions.
I
will
just
note
that.
D
Two
very
minor
corrections
and
before
going
to
public
comment,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that.
A
C
Version
there
are
two
minor
corrections,
one
inserts
the
text
july
21st
prior
to
what
was.
C
Correction
revises
how
the
what
the
digital
equity
investments
may
include
previously.
C
It
said
grants
that's
replaced
with
the
word
investments
to
not
limit
the
type
of
investment.
C
Only
or
exclusively
to
grants,
so
those
are
the
two
corrections.
If
city
staff
who
developed.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
and
this
is
amendment
one
to
app
or
21-41.
A
Okay,
it's
been
properly
moved
a
second.
Do
we
have
any
questions
or
comments
from
council.
B
Yes,
council,
member
flaherty,
yes.
R
A
9-0,
thank
you
very
much.
We
do
have
legislation
for
first
readings.
A
I'm
sorry
I
heard
please
call
the
roll
thank
you.
Okay,
council
member
piedmont,
smith.
J
B
A
B
B
B
A
Our
colleagues
and
the
for
our
colleagues
that,
under
local
cold,
the
president
may
refer.
C
On
the
next
ordinance,
if
we're
ready
for
that,
yes,
we
are
okay.
I
move
that
ordinance
21-32.
A
J
R
B
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
hear
you,
council,
member
piedmont,
smith,
all
right.
Yes,
thank
you.
B
B
B
B
B
C
A
I
am
so
sorry
go
ahead.
Yes,
I
believe
we
need
the
clerk
to
read
before
we,
we
sure
do.
B
A
Following
the
conclusion
of
tonight's
regular
session
council
member
piedmont,
smith,.
A
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
We'll
now
move
on
to
matters
of
council
schedule.
D
Resolution
sponsored
by
a
few
council
members
on
nuclear
proliferation
and
an
ordinance
that.
D
Council
member
volun
has
authored
affecting
time
limits
for
council
meetings,
so
unless.
A
A
Thank
you
you're
quite
welcome.
Do
you
have
any
any
other
matters
on
council
schedule
just.
D
D
D
Nights
next
week
will
will
begin
at
six
o'clock.
Departments
will
be
presenting
their
their.
D
Budgets
to
you
all
and
budget
books
should
be
available
this
friday
ahead
of
next
week.
D
So
keep
an
eye
out
for
that,
and
just
wanted
to
to
remind
folks
that
that's
coming
up
next
week.
D
A
Of
the
whole
will
be
chaired
by
council
member
ron
smith
and
I
will
entertain.
A
A
motion
to
adjourn
this
regular
session
and
also
a
reminder
that
the
committee.
A
Council,
member
flaherty
and
movie
adjourned
you,
it's
been
probably
moved
a
second.
We
are.
A
Here
by
john
adjourned,
we
will
recommence
here
shortly
as
committee
of
the
whole.
Thank
you.
A
I'd
say:
you're
I'd,
say
you're
the
chair.
Anybody
else
you
might
check
with
the
parliamentary.
F
Parliamentarian
in
my
non-parliater
parliamentarian
capacity
I
would
I
would.
C
Appreciate
like
two
minutes,
but
that's
just
my
opinion
so
up
to
you.
Okay,
let's
take
let's.
F
Take
two
minutes:
we
get
up
and
stretch
and
we'll
reconvene
and
it
looks
like
7
40.,
okay,.
F
F
Except,
I
believe,
isabelle
council
member
piedmont.
Smith
is
not
at
this
point.
F
All
right,
so
we
have
ordinance
2133,
which
is
the
economic
development
revenue
notes.
F
So
I
believe
the
city
there
are
city
members
here
that
are
here
to
present.
Mr.
F
Mr
allen,
mr
crowley
scoby
whoever
wants
to
go
ahead,
I
would
say:
let's
do.
U
To
scoby
and
chris
cass,
you
all
consider
this.
U
U
That
effectively
gave
some
tacit
support.
You
all
considered
the
inducement
resolution
that.
U
Gave
some
tacit
support
earlier
in
the
year
to
the
issuance
of
these
bonds
and
notes?
This
is
for.
U
The
renovation
of
the
crestmont
community
as
part
of
the
bha,
this
authorization.
U
That
this
is
going
to
be
a
private
placement
with
a
bank.
There
is
no
the
notes
or
the
bonds.
U
That
said,
in
terms
of
the
details
of
the
project,
it's
an
exciting
project
which
I'll
just
turn.
U
It
over
to
amber
stokey,
who
will
do
undoubtedly
an
excellent
job
informing
you.
Thank
you.
V
Kloschnick
who's
a
partner
in
ice
miller.
If,
if
the
technology
permits
we'll
try
to
maybe
share
a.
V
But
just
first
off
thanks
to
this
body
and
and
city
staff,
for
making
the
time.
V
For
us
this
evening
and
including
us
on
your
agenda
as
larry
mentioned
this
project.
V
Its
inducement
phase
approvals
and
now
we're
back
before
you
for
for
some
final
approval,
so.
V
The
edc
met
last
week
and
approved
the
project
and
part
of
that
approval
was
to.
V
For
not
to
exceed
conduit
bond
issuance
of
30
million
dollars,
so
I
will
probably.
V
And
some
of
the
topics
that
are
that
are
kind
of
under
her
wheelhouse
and
then
I'll
finish
up.
T
T
T
T
T
T
So
we
will
do
extensive
renovation
work.
You
know
we're
asking
for
30
million.
T
T
T
T
T
We
will
be
relocating
current
crestmont
residents
and
they
will
be
out
of
the
units
for.
T
T
T
T
T
V
Really
the
conduit
nature
of
this
deal
and
then
also
the
the
different
parties
that.
V
V
Be
capitalized
reducing
kind
of
the
debt,
the
project
needs
to
carry
to
get
done.
V
The
next
slide,
which
goes
over
kind
of
four
big
bucket
steps
that
the
that
most
of
these
projects.
V
V
V
V
V
And
then
kind
of
a
few
high
level
high
level
concepts
related
to
the
city.
V
Acting
as
a
conduit
issuer,
the
bonds
are
being
issued
as
clerk
bolton
and
larry
mentioned.
V
Pursuant
to
I
indiana
code,
36
7
11.9
and
12.
we've
gone
through
the
edc
process.
V
For
state
law
purposes
for
36,
7,
12
purposes,
interchangeably
bonds
and
notes.
So
these
notes.
V
V
Notes
as
or
should
the
city
issue,
these
notes,
as
a
conduit
issuer,
has
no
impact
on
the.
V
V
F
And
mr
allen,
council
members,
you
have
some
questions
about
the
project
that
you'd
like
to
ask.
F
Council,
member
scandaluri,
I
think
councilmember
rala-
might
have
been
first.
So
oh.
F
J
Are
included
in
rent
and
is
that
a
flat
rate
then
for
all
apartments.
T
The
cost
of
the
utilities
yeah,
no,
it
wouldn't
be
a
flat
rate.
T
T
The
utilities
is
a
part
of
that,
but
if
areas
these
the
units
are
individually
metered.
T
T
T
T
J
T
T
I
understand
what
you're
saying
we
do
individually
meter
the
units,
so
we
could
track.
T
T
For
the
residents
is
most
important,
I
understand
that
my
trepidation
is
that
if
you
don't
under.
J
J
That
is,
you
know,
I'm
I'm
hardened
here
that
you
have
some
sort
of
you.
You
would
make.
J
Some
educational
effort,
but
that
seems
to
be
a
flaw
in
that
model,
seems
to
me,
but
I'm
open
to.
J
More
discussion
about
it
later,
so
that's
that's
all
I'll
say
on
the
topic
thanks.
Thank
you.
F
E
E
My
numbers,
because
they
were
really
striking-
you
mentioned
that
the
waiting
list
for
a.
T
I
would
say
a
two
bedroom
is
under
20.
a
three
bedroom
around
ten.
E
Trying
to
think
ahead
to
future
conversion
projects
that
you
might
undertake
and
to
just.
E
T
High
demand,
because
of
some
of
those
demographics-
and
you
know
often
a
lot
of
folks
that.
F
Thank
you
other
questions
from
council
members.
F
Mr
flaherty
sure
I
appreciate
well
thanks
thanks
all
everybody.
C
For
the
presentations-
and
I
appreciate
councilman
varalo's
comments
about
about.
C
Of
including
utilities
automatically
and
folks
not
receiving
that
signal
and.
C
You
know
sending
a
smiley
face,
pony,
face
or
neutral
about
your
usage
and
other
things.
C
Like
that
there
could
be
possibly
like
rebates
for
the
you
know,
10
units
or
something
that.
C
To
efficiency
and
energy
usage
but
kind
of
continuing
to
unpack
that
sort
of
non-traditional.
C
Utility
payment
structure
normally
there's,
what's
called
a
split
incentive
with.
C
For
instance,
so
we
have
the
opposite
of
that
here
and
and
that
would
actually
apply
to.
C
The
use
of
renewable
energy
as
well,
and
I'm
wondering
about
probably
not
with.
C
Since
we
know
that
solar
panels,
for
instance,
pay
for
themselves
fair.
C
Relatively
you
know
quickly,
certainly
much
much
more
quickly
than
the
their
life
cycle.
C
C
That
too,
so
could
could
you
weigh
in
about
that
at
all?
If
that's
been
discussed
or
would.
C
An
option:
oh
yes,
it's
certainly
been
discussed
with
the
last
renovation
project
that
we've.
T
In
reverend
butler
and
thanks
to
a
grants
late
last
year
earlier
this
year
from
the
city.
T
And
it
was
about
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
grant
that
allowed
us
to
install
those
panels.
T
They
were
just
sort
of
hooked
up
if
you
will
a
month
ago,
so
that
seems
to
be
going
well
so
far.
T
We
did
put
some
money
or
sorry
put
a
a
line
item
in
contingency
funds,
so
at
the
end
of
the.
T
T
T
T
The
project
budget
there's
some
pretty
deep
issues
in
crestmont
that
are
very
expensive.
T
And
trying
to
take
care
of
those
basic
infrastructure
and
yes,
we'd
love
to
see
solar.
T
Panels
and
it's
it's
on
the
wish
list.
Yes
and
sorry,
just
following
on
that
same
point,
are
there.
C
Projects
like
this,
just
because
again,
we
have
essentially
guaranteed
savings
if
you're
going.
C
C
Know
that
it's
it's
the
any
bonds
or
notes
secured
for
installing
solar
panels
would.
C
C
But
maybe
that's
wrong,
I
don't
know
yeah
I
mean
we
can
finance
based
on
our
operating
income.
T
T
Pay
off
based
on
our
operations
yeah,
I
would
love
to
hear
more
about
some
other
affordable
loan.
C
F
Mr
simms,
thank
you
thank
you
for
the
report,
mr
man,
mr
allen,
I
guess,
with
regard
to
utilities,.
A
I
don't
I
agree
with
you
on
that,
but
what
I'm
getting
to
is,
I
think
you
mentioned.
A
I
mean
I'm
not
so
sure
I
quite
understood
that
and
what
I
was
getting
at
with
the
master
meters.
A
A
I
guess
for
lack
of
a
better
term
educate
folks
on
efficient
use
and,
at
the
same.
A
Time,
understanding
that
we
don't
want
to
put
undue
burden
on
you
know:
lower
income
populations.
A
At
all,
in
this
case,
so
can
you
talk
about
that?
Just
a
bit
yeah
each
of
the
units
are
individually.
T
T
300
from
the
gas
company
and
300
from
the
electric
company,
and
yes
just
like
a
residential
bill.
T
T
I
I
kind
of
said
we
could
have
a
plan
for
tracking
that
and
then
monitoring,
maybe
which
units
are.
T
Higher
users
and
seeing
if
you
know
perhaps
they're
using
some
sort
of
appliance
or.
T
They're,
just
elderly
and
crank
up
the
heat
a
little
bit
more.
Who
knows,
but
I
I
do
think
that.
T
We
could
look
at
that
and
then
do
edu
education.
Education
around
it,
but
I
just
quite
frankly.
T
T
T
But
it
is
something
that
we
can
more
closely
monitor
and,
of
course,
you
know
the
cheaper.
T
We
can
get
our
utility
bills
within
reason.
That's
just
money
that
we
can
spend
on
other.
A
Of
any
kind
of
pressure
from
housing
authority
management,
but
just
more,
I
was
latching
on
to.
A
J
Yes,
mrs
I'm
sorry
to
drag
this
on,
but
I
I'm
not
sure
I
quite
understand
so.
Each
each
unit
is.
T
T
Record
the
expense
to
the
project
as
a
lump
sum.
So
it's
it's
actually
it's
aggregated
and.
T
T
J
Is
is
part
of
the
reason
for
that
failure
to
pay?
In
other
words,
if
you
have
multiple
bills,.
T
Pay,
the
utilities
the
utilities
are
shut
off,
they're,
subject
to
eviction
and
we
don't
want.
T
F
All
right,
then,
we'll
take
some
public
comments.
At
this
point
we
have
ability
to
it.
F
Looks
like
give
public
each
person
five
minutes
to
make
comment
about
the
ordinance.
That's.
F
Under
discussion
right
now,
the
crestmont
project,
mr
lucas,
do
we
have
any
takers.
D
F
Mr
cashman,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
Are
we
ready
to
ask
for
a
do
pass.
F
F
A
Jittery
all
night,
but
what
I
wanted
to
say
is
I
do
support
this
and
I
was
heartened
to
hear.
A
About
and
at
least
plans
and
discussion
of
energy
efficiency,
educational
plan,
I
think
that'll.
A
Be
important
again
not
to
be
heavy-handed
but
to
make
sure
that
we
can
get
savings
where
we
can.
A
To
hear
about
the
solar
panels
on
the
other
project,
even
though
I
knew
about
that,
but.
A
F
You,
mr
sims,
mr
rallo,
did
you
have
a
final
comment?
I
did
just
to
say
that
there
are
pros
and
cons.
J
Associated
with
that
single
payment
model-
and
I
need
to
ruminate
on
that-
a
bit
more
but
overall.
C
Sure,
thanks
just
a
brief
follow-up
on
the
same
theme
just
that
I'd
like
to
continue
looking
in
to.
C
C
We
can
finance
if
there's
more
pressing
needs
than
something
like
solar
panels,
but
again
just.
C
Guaranteed
energy
savings
contract,
which
is
legal
in
indiana
or
or
some
other
type
of
backing,.
C
Of
a
loan
for
something
like
that,
so
something
to
explore,
I
would
love
to
follow
up
with
with.
C
About
it,
so
thank
you
again
for
helping
to
inform
that
that
thought
appreciate
it.
F
And
very
much
appreciate
all
all
the
efforts
and
the
projects
that
you
you
do
and.
F
I'm
very
supportive
of
this,
so
anybody
else
have
a
final
comment
before
we
call
for.
F
E
Would
you
like
a
move,
do
pass?
Oh,
I
can
do.
I
need
to
do
that.
Yes,
okay,
please
do
that
moved.
You.
E
F
Mr
rosenberger,
yes-
and
I
also
will
say
yes
so
that
looks
like
six
to
one
in
favor.
Did
I
count
that.
F
F
And
mr
cashman
so
we'll
forward
that,
on
with
a
601
recommendation,
thank
you
very
much.
F
All
right
moving
on
in
our
agenda.
The
next
item
is
the
historic
designation
for.
F
F
R
R
Introduce
gloria
cullen,
bronya
who's,
our
new
historic
conservation
program
manager
here
in
hand.
R
She's
gonna
present
some
great
information
tonight
on
1326
south
pique
place
also
known.
R
As
the
thomas
smith
house,
which
the
historic
preservation
commission
recommended
to
you
for.
R
Designation
so
she'll
build
their
presentation.
We
are
grateful
for
the
consideration.
R
W
W
W
Single
proposed
property
consists
of
two
buildings
on
a
1.8
acre
parcel,
so
the
main.
W
W
W
W
W
Into
and
become
much
more
of
much
more
urban
since
then,
it
is
currently
owned
by
edward
morris.
W
W
W
W
Than
it
does
now,
he
was
also
prepared
to
be
a
conductor
on
the
underground
railroad
in
an.
W
W
And
it
also
exemplifies
the
built
environment
and
then,
through
its
very
distinctive.
F
Thank
you
very
much,
miss
colombra
council
members.
Would
you
like
to
ask
some
questions.
F
All
right,
if
there
are
no
further
questions
from
council
members,
then.
F
F
N
N
Looking
at
a
single-family
residence
on
1.8
acres
and
15
minutes
ago,
we
spent
a
good
amount
of.
N
Then,
in
a
little
bit,
you're
going
to
be
looking
at
233
units
on
3.2
acres,
so
this
is
luxury
single.
X
I'm
lurking
in
the
background.
Yes,
the
historic
does
the
ducky
scale,
development
services.
X
X
Being
subdivided
and
used
in
other
ways
would
they
still
have
to
be
respectful
of
the.
A
Was
good
for
tonight?
Thank
you
all
right.
Any
other
final
comments
on
the
thomas
smith,
designation.
F
I
will
call
the
role
from,
as
I
see
people
on
the
screen
again,
mrs
gambelluri.
Yes,
miss
sandberg.
F
Thank
you
very
much.
Miss
columbrana,
mr
zodie,
appreciate
that
next
item
on
the
agenda.
F
X
X
X
X
On
the
bypass
and
the
property
is
currently
undeveloped,
the
reason
you
are
seeing
this.
X
X
Body
the
original
preliminary
plan
that
they
submitted
indicated
that
they
only
intended
to
do.
X
Bedrooms
as
well,
and
they
have
also
redesigned
the
building,
as
you
can
see,
kind
of
on
this
aerial.
X
Conceptual
plan
here
in
such
a
way
that
the
parking
structure
there
on
the
east
side
of
the.
X
This
body
requiring
some
masking
of
the
parking
garage,
it's
very
specific
about
what.
X
X
Requesting
under
the
previous
petition,
15
feet
was
listed
as
the
setback
on
the
northern.
X
Property
line
in
the
current
request
that
would
go
down
to
10
feet
at
the
stair
tower,
which
still.
X
X
X
Excuse
me
their
impervious
surface
coverage
to
for
change
from
34
to
33
percent.
X
X
Feet
to
59
and
a
third,
and
previously
they
had
indicated
that
they
were
planning
to
do.
X
29
dwelling
unit
equivalents
per
acre
with
a
maximum
of
30
and
with
this
design.
X
X
Units-
and
they
are
now
at
233
units
and
also
the
beds,
went
down
slightly.
The
bedrooms
went
from.
X
344
to
341.,
so
what
they've
indicated
to
us
is
that
you
know
based
on
the
way
that
they
normally.
X
Build
and
how
their
units
are
normally
laid
out;
that
is,
that
is
why
they
need
to
do
the
three.
X
Units
to
kind
of
fit
in
the
corners
of
the
building
and
not
it
is
not
intended
to
gain.
X
Along
the
eastern
side
of
the
building,
now
they
are
saying
that
it
will
be
fourteen
thousand.
X
This
is
looking
northwest
with
pete
ellis
here
on
the
right,
and
so
this
is
the
intersection.
X
Part
of
the
original
plan,
those
they
have
found
that
they
won't
be
able
to
make
them
functional.
X
X
Parking
garage,
and
so
that
will
be
gone
in
the
new
plan.
It
will
be
all
units
facing
the
north.
X
So
again,
here
is
the
the
second
one
down
here
is
the
north
elevation
and
you
can
see.
X
That
it
is
all
units
with
no
opening
for
the
parking
garage.
X
And
plan
commission
agreed
wrapping
the
parking
garage
as
a
positive
in
general.
X
This
body
had
kind
of
made
the
the
green
wall
requirement
for
the
parking
garage
as.
X
A
focal
point
and
interest
on
the
south
side
of
the
property
here
and
that
will
be
gone
so.
X
Before
with
the
breakup
of
units
on
the
left
on
the
west
units
on
the
east
and
then
the.
X
Covered
parking
garage
in
the
center,
so
this
is
the
new
south.
You
can
see
here
this
little
gray.
X
Be
required
to
have
some
sort
of
green
feature
or
art
feature
to
provide
some
sort
of
visual.
X
Interest
or
breakup
of
this
long
frontage,
so
you
can
see
here
where
the
two
areas,
where.
X
X
Reducing
some
of
these
higher
parapets
and
you
can
see
like
the
stair
tower
in
the
back
here.
I.
X
X
More
architecturally,
designed
than
those
that
they
had
previously
for
those
who
don't
know.
X
X
X
That
really
make
sense
it's
kind
of
recessed.
We
think
it's
probably
the
the
best
spot
as.
X
X
As
I
mentioned
near
the
very
bottom
corner
of
the
focus
area
for
the
new
hospital
site,.
X
It
offers
some
unique
architectural
design
for
this
area,
which
is
mostly
been
developed.
Much.
X
And
we
think
that
obviously,
of
course,
this
adds
to
our
housing
stock
what
they
have
indicated.
X
X
Of
its
close
proximity
to
the
new
hospital
site
and
targeting
those
individuals.
X
Puts
in
a
caveat
that
they
would
market
to
other
individuals
if
they're
not
able
to
fill.
X
So
the
plan
commission
heard
this
petition
and
recommended
approval
at
their
june
hearing.
X
Eight
to
zero,
with
quite
a
few
conditions,
part
of
the
reason
there
are
so
many
conditions
is
that.
X
Petition
the
beauty
the
first
time-
and
we
incorporated
those
here
as
conditions.
X
As
those
that
the
council
included
number
six
was
amended
at
plan,
commission.
X
Plan
stage-
and
that
was
it-
it
didn't-
have
a
lot
of
teeth.
This
this
condition
has
been
changed.
X
Of
bloomington,
so
that's
fairly
typical.
If,
if
the
installation
of
a
project
is
going
to
cause.
X
And
then
we've
left
in
a
caveat
in
case,
for
example,
they
don't
develop
this
for
a.
X
X
Enclosed
and
so
the
proposed
amendment
is
here,
plan
commission
did
not
take
that
up.
X
Wasn't
discussed
heavily
but
just
in
case
that
one
of
you
all
wanted
to
discuss
that.
I
believe.
X
F
Thank
you,
ms
scanlon
questions
from
council
members.
F
C
You
for
the
presentation
you
mentioned
that
I
was
the
one
who
brought
the
reasonable
condition.
C
Originally
related
to
green
or
white
roofs
and
how
a
a
uncovered
top
of
a
parking
garage.
C
Wouldn't
necessarily
fit
with
that
the
most
well.
I
remember
certainly
in
another
project.
C
We
had
recently
discussing
this
concept.
I
think
we
looked
at
those
udo
standards
for.
C
Like
the
reflectivity
or
the
how
how
light
the
the
surface
of
the
of
the
garage
was
had,
we.
X
For
this
it
was
when
this
went
to
plan
commission,
they
asked
we
were
reminded.
Yes,
you
and
I.
X
X
That
reasonable
condition
was
comfortable
with
the
change.
Yes,
thank
you
for
requesting
my.
C
C
Open
an
opener
structure
like
that
and
how
to
reduce
the
the
heat
island
effect
through.
C
Reasonable
to
me
following
up
on
that,
though,
would
we
need
to
incorporate
that
in
the
form.
C
C
I'm
sorry!
Oh
I'm
sorry,
of
course
this
may
be
a
question
for
legal,
but
I
believe
that.
X
Because
this
is
a
new
petition,
an
amendment,
those
six
other
reasonable
conditions.
X
Way,
I
believe
so
and
steven
can
correct
me
if
that's
incorrect.
C
And
sorry,
just
final
clarification
point
absent,
passing
a
new,
reasonable
condition
like.
C
That
the
the
current
draft
ordinance
or
the
current
ordinance
as
as
drafted,
would.
F
Thank
you,
mr
flaherty,
mr
sims,
thank
you.
So
will
the
petitioners,
I
guess
at
some
point
in
their.
A
Some
intimation
that
there
could
be
additional
traffic
along
pied
ellis
that
could
be
hospital.
A
Related
and
I'm
just
paraphrasing
here-
I'm
not
quoting
anyone,
but
it's
like
it's
not
all.
A
A
It'll
be
after
the
hospital,
so
they
have
to
do
a
traffic
study
before
when
they
file
for
a.
X
Getting
their
paperwork
together
to
do
that,
so
a
final
traffic
study
is
imminent
for
them.
A
Okay,
may
I
follow
up
chair
just
one
more
when
we
heard
this
last
time.
A
Probably
one
or
two
less,
but
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
big
discussions
particularly.
X
So
let
me
know
if
this
answers
it,
they
have
said
before
and
are
continuing
to
say
that
the.
X
Yes,
the
the
marketing
I
mo,
I
meant
mostly
for
the
commercial
space.
Yes,
so
if
there's
need
for.
A
A
Of
the
plan
right,
they
could
be
used
in
that
way.
Well,
I
know
they
can
be
used,
but
we
both
know.
A
That,
probably
if
they
have
the
three
bedrooms
so
again,
okay,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you.
J
Thanks
ms
scanlon
just
one
question
I
had
was.
J
Very
very
much
sure
they
may
be
able
to
answer
that
more
specifically
than
I,
but
you.
X
Stair
tower
at
the
northwest
northeast
corner
of
the
building.
Okay,
I
had
a
couple
of.
O
Oh
jason
is
also
the
representative
for
this
petition,
just
fyi.
F
F
All
right
go
ahead,
mr
rowland,
okay,
we'll
find
out
it's
probably
not
a
major
major
major
obstacle.
J
It
seems
like
it
is,
you
know
the
articulation
of
the
building
looks.
J
Monolithic,
more
monolithic
than
it
than
than
it
was
seems
to
me.
So
my
question
is
you.
J
X
Condition
related
to
the
green
wall
can't
be
met
now
and
have
to
meet
all
reasonable
conditions.
X
So
it's
no!
You
don't
do
design,
but
in
this
case,
because
that
reasonable
condition
was.
X
So
specific
to
the
design
of
the
building
you
are
able
you
are
weighing
in
on
that.
Basically.
X
But
yes,
it
will
go
to
the.
I
believe
it
will
go
to
the
plan
commission
unless
they
delegate.
X
J
Weigh
in
on
that
and
if
you
were
asking
sure
yeah,
I
think,
but
I'm
pointing
it
out
because.
X
Okay,
so
this
is
what
you
were
getting
with
the
reasonable
condition.
You
know
this
whole
area
to.
X
Be
covered
by
green
and
what
we've
proposed
and
is
in
the
proposed
conditions
as
well.
X
X
It's
obviously
a
much
smaller
area,
but
that
was
our
kind
of
best
shot
at
doing
some
sort
of.
X
Incorporated
into
the
green
wall
there,
yes,
okay,
okay,
by
the
way,
since
you
have
that
previous.
J
F
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
on
the
council
have
a
question.
F
F
And
I
guess
I
would
like,
if
you
can
tell
me
it
says
that
produces.
F
X
Just
like
a
tiered
outdoor
seating
area-
and
there
had
been
discussion
about
you-
know,
sort
of.
X
Letting
people
utilize
that
for
instruments
and
small
events
and
things
so
there
was
concern.
X
From
the
neighbors
to
the
north,
that
noise
control
code
is
not
something
that
is
enforced
by.
X
Decibels
at
the
property
line,
but
I
can
look
into
that
and
let
you
know
when
we're
back.
F
Great
that
was
one
of
the
neighbors
really
concerns
was
the
amplification
devices.
F
Again,
you
know
that
was
that
was
a
neighborhood
concern
and
it
looks
like
it's
in
udo,
20.04.090.
X
Staff
that
I
work
with-
and
that
is
lighting-
that's
required
to
be
downward
facing
and
shielded.
X
And
there
is
a
light,
trespass
numbers
that
we
use
lumens
and
we
can
look.
What
we
do
is.
X
When
they
submit
their
lighting
package,
any
one
new
commercial
in
town
or
multi-family.
X
F
That
was
concerns
from
the
neighborhood
right
there
and
the
people
who
live
in
the
apartments.
F
J
J
Include
commercial
retail.
On
the
first
floor,
yes,
okay,
it
is
commercial
retail,
on
this
portion.
X
X
And
geelong
pedellus,
I
believe,
and
then
it
wraps
on
longview,
which
will
be
some
of
the
like.
X
Apartment
offices
for
the
facility,
but
not
residential
units
on
that
first
floor
at
the.
X
F
All
right,
let's
go
to
the
public
if
the
public
would
anyone
from
the
public
would.
F
Like
to
make
a
comment,
please
raise
your
hand
or
send
a
note
to
mr
lucas
in
the
chat.
D
Yes-
and
I
do
see
a
couple
of
folks
that
would
like
to
comment
for
anyone
that
wishes
to
do
so.
D
D
D
Z
Akers
I'm
in
the
parkridge
neighborhood.
I
wanted
to
make
a
couple
of
comments
tonight.
Z
I
shared
some
of
that
information
with
you
ron
this
afternoon
on
email,
so
we
still
have
a
bit.
Z
Z
I
don't
think
the
building
really
has
changed.
The
fourth
floor,
I
think,
is
set
back
a
little
bit.
Z
Was
the
the
traffic
study
that
I
I
thank
jackie
that
picked
out
and
jim
sims
president.
Z
Responsibility
about
whether
that
intersection
would
need
his
investment
if
it
were
to
change
in.
Z
Z
They
manage
that
amphitheater
and
and
and
what
they
do
to
provide
for
sound
and
things
like.
Z
Z
Z
The
delivery,
the
delivery
trucks
and
they've
addressed
that
in
terms
of
making
sure
that.
Z
We
did
talk
about
the
art,
I
think
it's
still
the
new
developer
or
the
new
builder
said
that
he.
Z
Z
I'm
still
wary
of
it.
I
I
hope
it's
not
masking
that
this
could
be
another
undergraduate.
Z
With
what
we're
agreeing
to
because
again
we're
already
gonna,
have
you
know
the
the
huge.
Z
Follow
this
as
a
group-
and
I
thank
you
for
the
time.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
Thank
you,
mr
acres,
shall
we
take
more
public
comment
and
then
we'll
allow.
F
Mr
curry
and
mr
jason
to
respond
so
I
think
maybe
miss
mills.
F
AA
AA
Before
the
pedellis
very
bad
intersection
gets
improved,
we
have
kmart
developed
by
trinitus.
AA
AA
AA
F
Before
we
have,
mr
curry
and
mr
jason
comment,
I
I
don't
see
any
additional
members
of
the
public.
D
And
I
I
will
just
mention
I
I
believe,
mr
curry
and
the
petitioner
representatives.
D
Should
be
able
to
mute
and
unmute
or
turn
on
their
video
if
they,
if
you'd
like
to
offer.
D
AB
AB
AB
What
has
been
said,
what
has
been
done,
what
we
can
do
and
he
hears
everything
that
everybody
is.
AB
Saying
so,
there
should
be
some
solace
in
that
knowing
we've
engaged
the
same
person.
AB
Because
an
amphitheater,
it
truly
is
not.
This
turned
into
this
ended
up
being
a
green
space
area.
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
In
the
construction
industry,
as
well
as
the
availability
and
lead
times
to
deliver
these
goods.
AB
AB
The
original
pud
was
formed
because
the
the
partnership
that
I
had
didn't
quite
meet
the.
AB
Standards
that
I
wanted
going
forward
and
I
was
had
a
relationship
with
some
skinell
employees.
AB
But
I
feel
like
our
meeting
today
with
connie
and
steve
went
very
well.
I
think
we
addressed.
AB
Because
nothing
has
changed
so
I
think
that
becomes
kind
of
a
moot
point
and
we
can't
just.
AB
AB
Now
we
have
better
information
from
bynum
fano
associates.
Al
lupton
and
his
company
have
dialed.
AB
AB
AB
Sort
of
demographic
and
that
really
plays
into
the
hands
of
the
hospital.
AB
So
we're
gonna
do
what
we
can
to
market
the
heck
out
of
it
to
that
work-life
balance,
sort.
AB
Of
occupation,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
cannot
discriminate
who
lives
in
our
building.
AB
And
so
I
hope
that
you
consider
these
amendments.
The
project
has
already
been
approved.
AB
We
came
back
to
you
because
you
know
this
is
what
the
process
is
and
that's
really
all.
AB
Y
Absolutely
thanks
thanks
for
your
time
this
evening,
I
am
a
development
manager
with
skinell.
Y
Y
Y
Y
Art
the
pocket
park
improvement
improving
the
multimodal
bike
path
from
8
to
12
feet.
Y
Y
And
big
picture,
the
proposed
changes
are
primarily
economically
and
data
driven
meant.
Y
Even
with
shift
to
the
garage
and
the
inclusion
of
the
three
bedroom
units,
the
fourth
floor
on.
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
And
one
beds,
which
we
feel
is
an
extremely
attractive
in
a
unit
mix,
that's
very
conducive.
F
Thank
you,
mr
jason.
Are
there
other
comments
that.
F
Rosenberger
thanks,
I
just
I'm
sorry
if
I'm
just
slow
on
this
uptake,
but.
I
Is
that
in
the
packet
like,
I
really
just
skimmed
this
today
so
like
I'm,
just
wondering
like
what.
I
I
Y
Y
Size
in
bloomington
is
2.26
and
of
all
households
that
are
renters,
75
percent
of
them
or
sorry.
Y
43
of
them
are
households
that
do
not
live
alone
of
the
total
households
that
are
renters
so.
Y
42
or
43
for
15
percent
of
the
total
acca
units
is
just
one
of
the
few
data
points
that.
Y
Y
Units
just
adding
a
greater
variety
to
our
total,
offering.
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
G
Commission
with
great
thoughtfulness
and
questioning
and
consideration
and
one
of
the
side.
G
G
Or
the
the
the
nearness,
the
proximity,
whether
it's
to
the
new
hospital.
G
Or
whether
it's
to
the
the
retail
activity
around
the
the
college
mall
area,
but
certainly.
G
So
I
don't
think
any
of
us
should
be,
you
know
predicting
who
possibly
will
be.
G
The
tenants
and
the
at
the
addition
of
the
three
bedrooms
is
a
consideration
for
economics.
G
G
Do
I
have
concerns
about
the
traffic
study?
Yes,
I
do,
and
so
I'm
hopeful
that
the
city
and.
G
G
J
The
interim,
so
my
overall
impression
is,
I
don't
think
the
setback
changes
are
problematic
to
me.
J
Reasons
that
councilmember
sandberg
stated
it
seems
reasonable
to
assume
that
it
increases.
J
The
marketing
viability
to
hospital
staff
in
in
families
and
so
forth.
So
I
think
that
that
is.
J
Actually,
benign
or
or
actually
improvement,
so
reduction
in
parking
spaces.
J
I
seems
a
positive
step,
I
think
I
think
this
is
a
walkable
area
for.
Y
J
The
garage
has
advantages
for
noise
and
light.
The
only
really
problem
I
have
is
that
the.
J
Facade
changes
quite
a
bit,
and
so
I
need
to
think
about
this.
In
terms
of
you
know,
breaking.
J
That
kind
of
yes,
wise,
okay,
that
facade
along
pete
ellis,
will
all
remain
largely
the
same.
J
More
humane
than
obviously
you
know
just
a
monolithic
linear
front
so
and
I
assume.
J
That
the
final
design
approval
by
staff
they'll
pay
attention
to
that
and
to
the
materials.
J
J
Correct
okay,
so
you
know
overall
and
and
then
lastly,
the
traffic
is
very
problematic.
J
Housing
and
activity
that's
going
to
go
on
there,
so
that's
something
that
we
need.
J
To
consider
that's
our
responsibility,
so,
overall,
I
give
this
a
a
positive.
J
A
Thank
you
no
really
comments,
but
I
was
wondering,
mr
jason.
I
think
I'm
now
sent
correctly.
A
At
least
from
there
again
so
can
we
have
access
to
that?
Those
data
that
you
were
talking
about.
F
E
And
stuff
I'm
not
worried
about,
and
I
would
agree
with
a
lot
of
what
I
heard
about
things.
E
That,
okay,
we
wanted
to
ask
about
it,
but
it's
not
really
a
concern.
I
feel
better
about
the.
E
Facade
now,
I
think,
that's
more
manageable.
I'm
actually
not
concerned
about
the
amphitheater.
E
Becomes
an
amphitheater
if
there
is
a
programming
entity
associated
with
it
and
there
isn't
one.
E
Was
generating
words
like
arena
and
theater
in
the
round?
It's
kind
of
like
no,
that's
not
what
it.
E
Three
bedrooms,
I
think,
can
make
sense.
You
know
again,
people
do
have
home
offices,
we
may
attract.
E
Professionals
with
young
children,
so
I
think
that
may
make
sense
the
questions
I
do
still
have.
E
And
I
think
it's
a
positive
project.
I
just
want
to
ponder
it
some
more
so
thank
you.
F
Any
other
questions
final
comments,
mr
flaherty.
Yes,
just
briefly
that
I
think.
C
Of
a
surface
scale,
from
zero
to
one
and
there's
a
section
of
the
udo
that
that.
C
Specifies
what
parking
structures
should
be-
and
I
did
some
digging
when,
when
miss.
C
Scanlan
had
reached
out
previously
and
what's
in
our
code
matches
lead
standards,
lead
v4.
C
So
I
felt
comfortable
with
with
that
switch
from
a
cooler
vegetated
roof
to
a.
C
Service
reflectance
or
solar
reflectance
value,
in
line
with
with,
what's
in
the
udo
under.
C
The
sustainable
development
incentives
so
I'd
be
happy
to
to
bring
an
amendment
and.
F
X
Comes
to
anyone's
minds
that
in
the
original
approval
there
was
an
agreement
with
the.
X
Is
changing
so,
especially
in
line
with
some
of
the
things
that
miss
scoby
was
saying
tonight.
F
Thank
you
very
much
I'd
like
to
ask
about
so
the
concept
came
up
a
comprehensive
traffic
study.
F
Traffic
study
for
the
area
sure,
with
all
the
different
things
happening.
X
Did
speak
about
how,
for
example,
iu
has
already
done
a
traffic
study
related
to
the
hospital.
X
Area
based
on
that
study,
but
for
that
use,
when
the
traffic
study
is
done
for
this
area.
X
Then
also
if
there
are
concerns
for
the
third
street
corridor
in
general,
in
this
area,.
F
F
Supportive
of
it,
but
I'm
really
concerned
about
the
traffic
and
the
impact
on
the
neighborhood.
F
Kind
of
bring
that
bring
some
more
information
to
that
next
time
we
meet
it'd
be
really
great,
so.
F
Thank
you
any
any
other
final
comments,
mr
raul,
ms
scanlon.
J
X
F
F
F
Sometimes
I
don't
hear
very
well,
so
thank
you
very
much
anything
else.
D
To
the
full
council
september,
the
first
and
we
are
anxiously
awaiting
to
see
whether
the
governor.
D
Will
extend
the
public
health
emergency?
I
I
expect
you
all
will
be
able
to
participate.