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A
Please
use
the
raise
hand
function
in
zoom.
You
may
also
type
into
the
chat.
B
50
people
per
block
on
my
screen
times,
13
pages-
I
have
25
people
with
raised
hands
so
far
26..
So
I.
A
Don't
think
it's
too
bad
right
now,
okay,
I
just
trying
to
make
sure
we
hear
everybody
and
give.
B
One
a
fair
deal,
mr
lucas,
do
you
want
to
handle
the
the
honors
of
calling
on
people
yes
and
I've.
C
Try
to
go
in
order
that
that
you
raised
your
hands,
but.
A
A
Ask
a
question
that
you
raise
rhetorically
then
they
may
do
so,
but
we
are
not
going
to
wait
for.
A
That,
ms
bernstein,
if
you
would
go
ahead,
having
walked
around
bryant
park
for
years,
I
walked
today.
D
Looking
around
thinking,
where
could
an
encampment
go
that
wouldn't
intrude
on
people's
feeling.
D
D
D
D
E
Thank
you.
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
everyone
should
have.
E
E
E
F
F
F
F
People
there's
nowhere
that
we
can
rent
for
them.
None
of
that
old
stuff
applies,
but.
F
G
G
To
have
this
very
critical
public
conversation,
I'm
aaron
predmore,
the
president
and
ceo
of.
G
The
greater
bloomington
chamber
of
commerce,
and
in
that
role,
the
chamber
has
already.
G
Released
a
statement
stating
our
opposition
to
the
ordinance
as
it
is
written
right
now.
G
I
don't
want
to
repeat
that
here
tonight,
as
you
all
will
have
an
opportunity
and
I'm.
G
G
G
Several
months
before
you
dismiss
us
as
just
the
business
group,
I
do
want
to
remind
you
that.
G
G
A
H
So
the
thing
I've
been
noticing
about
this
is
that
the
people
opposing
the
ordinance.
H
H
That
there
was
some
suggestion
that
well
you
know
you
can
go
to
this
shelter
but
ultimately.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
You
say:
there's
an
urgency
to
clear
the
camp,
but
there's
no
urgency
to
find
solutions
for.
A
I
Of
the
jobs
I'm
most
proud
of,
though,
is
that
I
do
public
relations
for
hotels
for
homeless.
I
Processed
in
17
people
from
the
seminary
perk
the
next
day
we
processing
two
more.
I
Somewhere
because
they
couldn't
go
to
shalom,
so
we've
got
to
understand
that
first
of
all,.
I
Of
who
belongs
to
you?
We
say
that
there
can't
be
tense
in
seminary
square
and
rules
or
rules.
I
I
I
A
J
All
right,
thank
you,
so
we
know
that
the
city
has
struggled
on
the
issue
of
housing.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
K
A
Go
ahead,
yes,
so,
first
and
foremost,
I
would
like
to
address
the
fact
that
the
way.
K
K
K
In
this
way,
guys
so
change
that,
second
of
all,
I
would
like
to
talk
about
chief.
K
Decoff's
disconnect
with
the
idea
that
his
police
officers
are
not
in
and
of
themselves.
K
K
Committed
all
over
this
country
by
the
police
against
black
and
brown
and
indigenous
people.
K
K
K
I
would
also
like
to
talk
about
the
fact
that
the
mayor
is
continuing
to
double
down
on.
K
K
And
married
catherine
carmichael
as
the
wing
of
the
the
mayoral
administration,
also
doubling
down.
K
K
People
to
sleep
in
our
parks
until
we
can
find
a
better
solution.
Thank
you
next
speaker,
please.
C
Next
up
is
cali.
Would
you
please
state
your
full
name
should
not
be
able
to
unmute.
A
Cali
hi,
sorry
kelly,
taylor
he's
glad
you'll
have
three
minutes.
Okay,
I
just
have
a
question.
L
L
C
M
Thanks
a
lot,
I
appreciate
an
opportunity
to
add
a
few
comments
here
and
I
sent
the
council
members.
M
But
rather
than
reiterate
that
I
just
want
to
make
a
couple
of
comments.
First
of
all,
I
want
to.
M
M
Problem,
someone
raised
a
question
earlier
about,
I
guess
the
respective
or
relative
engagement
of.
M
M
M
The
reason
I'm
concerned
about
it
is
that
you
know
it
focuses
on
using
parks
for
this
purpose.
M
M
M
M
M
M
C
Next
up
is
the
screen
name
mhc.
Who
should
you
please
state
your
name
for
the
record
and.
A
A
Name
yeah:
my
name
is
sarah
cahillane,
I'm
the
director
of
development
at.
N
N
N
N
A
Thank
you.
That's
your
time,
we'll
go
to
the
next
speaker
now.
O
That
people
are
housed,
it
seems
like
which
I
may
personally
disagree
with,
but
I
can
see.
O
Where
they're
coming
from,
I
think
it's
notable
that
some
of
these
groups
are
on
this.
O
Call
in
support
of
this
ordinance,
including
beacon,
which
opened
the
winter
shelter
recently.
O
O
Are
they
seizing
their
property?
The
community
cannot
make
it
legal
for
people
who
are
unwilling.
O
O
Stop
gap
measure
is,
it
is
not
moving
towards
a
solution,
is
preventing
more
harm
from
being
done.
O
I
I
think,
that's
all.
I
just
hope
that
you
all
can
find
it
in
yourself
to
support
this
ordinance.
C
Kyle,
I
don't
know
whether
it's
citizen,
please
go
ahead.
You'll
have
three
minutes:
hey.
P
P
P
P
See
them
in
the
trash
later
it's
just
sort
of
a
like
a
tough
cycle
that
I
think
that.
P
The
question
isn't
just
whether
there's
going
to
be
outside
or
not,
and
I
guess
you
know
the
city.
P
P
Q
Hi
everybody
thanks
for
giving
me
this
opportunity,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
beacon.
Q
For
me,
whenever
making
a
hard
decision
or
even
an
easy
decision,
I
start
with
values
and
for.
Q
Me,
the
the
most
important
value
I
think
is
is
is
supporting
the
most
vulnerable
in
our
community.
Q
Supporting
the
least
of
these,
as
as
jesus
put
it
and
that
really
cuts
to
the
core
of.
Q
Of
what
drives
me
and
what
motivates
me,
I
also
I'm
a
big
supporter
or
try
to
be
of
our
of
our.
Q
Calls
us
to
at
least
at
its
best.
I
think
I
think,
we're
kind
of
missing
a
little
bit
of
the.
Q
Suggested
that
it
that
it
is
that
what
this
is
is
is
an
attempt
to
decriminalize
sleeping.
Q
Is
is
that
that
has
actually
been
been
deemed
the
criminalization
of
sleeping
outside
has.
Q
Actually
been
deemed
unconstitutional
a
violation
of
the
eighth
amendment
as
cruel.
Q
And
unusual
punishment
and-
and
we
we've
heard
very
clearly
some
debate
about
whether
this
is.
Q
Criminalizing
but
truth,
but
we
know
again,
if
you
refuse
to
leave
as
someone
who's
experienced.
Q
Being
arrested
in
a
park
for
for
trespassing,
it's
it's
a
real
thing
and
you
do
get.
Q
Q
Q
This
ordinance
doesn't
take
away
any
prohibit
prohibitions
around
littering
or
around
violence.
Q
Or
around
any
other,
you
know
rule
that
makes
sense
for
the
parks.
It's
really
just
about.
Q
Sleeping
and
all
those
other
rules
are
still
in
place,
all
those
other
things
would
still
be.
Q
Enforceable
and
so
what
we're
really
doing
is
currently
is
by
by
banning
sleeping
in
the.
Q
Q
Of
the
way
that
we
embody
these
rules
in
the
way
where
we're
doing
this
and
lastly,.
Q
R
R
Long-Term
housing
goals-
it
is
not
cold
all
year
round.
Winter
shelters
are
not
permanent
shelter.
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
S
Hi,
thank
you.
My
name
is
molly
stewart
and
I'm
with
the
bloomington
homeless
coalition.
S
S
S
Health
and
safety,
including
homeless
people.
On
that
note,
I
would
like
to
represent
some
voices.
S
From
the
homeless
community,
since
there
are
a
lot
of
misconceptions
being
thrown
around
tonight,.
S
Someone
who's
homeless.
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
respect
the
right
of
people
who
choose
not
to.
S
S
S
C
Next
up
is
talisha
kopik,
miss
coppick,
go
ahead;
you'll
have
three
minutes.
T
Hello
hi,
my
name
is
talisha
kopik,
and
you
know
this
is
one
of
the
toughest
times
in
our.
T
Community
with
many
people
and
businesses
hurting
we
work
with
downtown
bloomington
inc.
T
And
have
been
involved
with
helping
revitalize
our
downtown
since
1984.,
and
you
know
just
over.
T
And
they've
all
tried
to
work
very
hard
with
working
with
different
agencies
and.
T
And
before
that,
with
people's
park
a
few
years
ago,
with
multiple
issues,
many
of
those
same
issues.
T
Of
security,
maintenance
dealing
with
multiple
issues
with
different
people
and
personalities.
T
And
and
issues
that
you
know
they're
just
ill-prepared
to
to
handle
and
it.
T
It's
it's
sad
and
you
know
the
different
social
service
agencies
have
been
great,
that
we
can
refer.
T
People
and
try
to
help
them,
but
it's
kind
of
a
day-to-day
issue.
You
know
whether
you're.
T
Opening
at
five
a.m
in
the
morning
or
closing
at
midnight
at
night,
or
you
know
just
security.
T
Is
really
really
important
thing
in
the
downtown
and
it
you
know,
may
not
necessarily
be
someone.
T
Issues
but
you
know
one
of
the
big
questions
and
concerns
with
this
ordinance
and
its.
T
T
T
Facing
our
delicate
downtown
ecosystem,
you
know,
with
businesses
struggling
now
due
to
the
pandemic,.
A
Without
I'm,
sorry,
that's
your
time,
a
lot
of
work
for
many
many
years
that
you
know
we
must.
T
C
U
U
For
our
opinion,
I
would
welcome
more
of
that
obviously,
but
it
is
what
it
is
one.
It
is.
U
Up
to
the
administration
to
determine
the
area,
so
all
this
did.
U
U
This
place
works
this
place.
Doesn't
it
gives
the
city
a
path
to
proper,
humane
ways
of
getting.
U
U
U
A
V
Thank
you.
I'd
like
to
first
acknowledge
the
work
that
the
members
have
put
into
this.
V
Was
mentioned
by
city
staff,
mayor
hamilton
staff,
as
the
amount
of
money
that
was
given
to.
V
I
hope
that
you
will
work
with
the
people
who
brought
this
to
your
desk
and
bring
it
up.
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
C
W
W
W
W
W
W
Time
I
just
kind
of
thought
that
was
a
little
bit
radical
and
now,
as
I
get
older,
and
I
continue.
W
To
see
this,
I
see
exactly
what
he
was
saying.
I
want
to
repeat
what
mr
booker
said
earlier.
W
W
W
W
W
X
X
X
X
X
X
A
Next
speaker,
please
next
up
is
kay
goodman.
Is
that
the
letter
k.
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
I
would
like
to
say
I
will
be
there
for
it
and
I
that's
I
that's
how
I
feel
about
it.
Thank
you.
Z
Hi,
thank
you
for
having
me
I'm
one
of
the
directors
of
the
new
small,
non-profit,
hotels.
Z
For
homeless,
that
box
mentioned
earlier,
h4h
has
sheltered
at
least
50,
probably
more
plus
people.
Z
Z
Families
that
we
shelter
on
any
given
day,
regular
basis
weekly
monthly.
We
have
sort
of
become
a
a.
Z
Z
Z
Gets
passed
should
it
get
past,
provides
for
everyone
in
a
realistic
and
a
positive
way.
Z
And
we
are
happy
to
help
with
that
in
any
way
that
we
can
from
bringing.
Z
Stories
real
life
stories
of
real
people
to
you,
we
have
lots
of
stats,
we've
got.
Z
Up-
and
it
is
oh
34
people
in
one
place
at
one
time-
that
is
just
not
realistic
to.
Z
What
we're
actually
seeing
so
we'd
be
happy
to
provide
that
information
as
well.
I
think
just.
Z
Z
Z
Especially
during
a
pandemic,
why
aren't
we
jumping
on
this
opportunity,
so
I
think
many
of
us
would.
Z
Z
A
AA
Okay,
so
I
want
to
you
know,
you
know
my
whole
mantra
about
my
belief
that
the.
AA
AA
AA
Thanks
for
listening
and
doing
what
you
got
to
do,
but
the
city
I
don't
think
is
operating
in
good.
AA
AA
AA
Taxing
here
there's
a
sense
of
urgency,
and
let
me
let
me
get
to
that
so
enough
about
the.
AA
City,
intelligence,
sims
that
you
know
for
once.
I
didn't
cuss
in
the
comments,
so
he'll
be
happy.
So.
AA
I
I
want
to
make
talk
about
the
last.
You
know
two-ish
minutes
I
have
about.
AA
AA
AA
What
you
know
it's
a
hard
knock
life.
That's
that's
what
you
got
to
do
so
so
I
I
I
think
from
that.
AA
Sorry
for
stuttering,
I
okay,
I
like
one
thing
that.
AA
AA
AA
The
bloomington
homeless
coalition
craft,
the
petition-
all
we
asked
for
were
just
trash
bins.
AA
AA
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
Dollars
a
year
less
in
outpatient
medical
care;
thirty
one
thousand
dollars
a
year
less
in
jail.
AB
Letting
them
sleep
in
the
park
is
beneficial
not
only
to
the
things
that
we
were
talking
about.
AB
Don't
even
have
the
moral
backbone
to
support
this
out
of
a
pure
humanitarian
like
support,
then.
AB
AB
C
Next
up
is
vjc.
Can
you
please
state
your
full
name:
yeah
hi,
I'm
vijay
trimalmilla,
I'm
a
student.
AC
And
I'm
a
student
at
iu,
bloomington
and
I'm
ultimately
in
support
of
passing
this
ordinance.
AC
I've
been
a
volunteer
at
the
shalom
center
for
about
eight
months
now,
since
august.
AC
On
the
homeless,
tents
took
place.
I
I
cannot
believe
that
bloomington
has.
AC
AC
Last
year,
we've
seen
how
being
transparent
and
being
compassionate
can
really
pay
off.
In.
AC
AC
AC
Stop
anywhere-
and
you
know
it's
ultimately
the
city's
responsibility
and
no
one
wanted
to.
AC
AC
AC
AC
I
I
don't
get
this
this
talk
about
deliberation
and
and
making
sure
that
this
legislation
is.
AC
AC
AC
Where
this
constant
need
for
deliberation
comes
from,
and
I
think
it's
it's
time
that.
AC
AC
I
yield
my
time
back
to
the
chair.
Thank
you
next
speaker,
please.
C
AD
Hi
there
thank
you,
so
my
name
is
zach
muller,
I'm
a
15-year
plus
resident
of
bloomington
at.
AD
This
point
I
want
to
thank
specifically
council
persons,
piedmont,
smith,
rosenberger.
AD
And
flaherty
for
their
work
on
spearheading
this
organ,
this
ordinance,
I
just
want
to
talk
about.
AD
A
couple
things
really
quickly:
I
was
kind
of
taken
aback
when
the
esteemed
deputy
mayor.
AD
AD
Is
this
is
kind
of
preposterous
frankly
that
we're
talking
about
needing
to
hold
on.
AD
You
know
our
city,
all
in
our
government.
You
know
I
do
think
there
is
a
moral
responsibility.
AD
AD
And
reallocate
funding
when
we
need
to
you
know
to
allow
for
budgetary
ex
purchases
within.
AD
Discretion
when
say,
a
police
department
has
an
extra
250
thousand
dollars
lying
around.
They
want.
AD
To
do
that,
we
talk
about
needing
to
allocate
funding,
and
you
know
the
500
plus
thousand.
AD
Dollars
for
those
employees
that
we
have
you
know,
there's
there's
250
000.
We
could.
AD
Stump
up
next
time
that
we
want
to
have
discretion
there.
I
think
you
know
I,
in
short,
you
know
I.
AD
Know
not
got
a
lot
of
time.
I
think
that
what
this
really
boils
down
to
is
money
and
nimbyism
in.
AD
AD
AD
AD
You
know,
but
right
now
we're
not
avoiding
eye
contact
with
these.
You
know
folks,
we're
dealing.
AD
With
a
lot
of
people
who
just
want
to
a
safe
place
to
stay,
and
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
good.
AD
AD
Us
then,
who
we,
you
know
our
elected
officials,
we
elected
you
to
represent
the
people
and
that's.
AD
Not
just
the
people
with
money,
the
people
who,
several
years
ago
circulated
email
talking.
AD
About
the
bloomington
bum
brigade,
excuse
me
for
that.
It's
everybody
you
know
and
so
help
our.
AD
Help
our
brothers
and
sisters
out
who
are
you
know
in
danger.
We
can
do
this
if
we
really
want
to.
AD
I
really
would
hope
that
we
can,
you
know,
move
expeditiously
here.
It's
important
it
could
be
cold.
AD
C
AE
Democrats
at
iu
and
I'm
here
to
express
my
own
personal
support
of
this
ordinance
and
also.
AE
My
organization's
support
for
this
ordinance-
I
just
most
importantly,
would
like
to
urge
everyone.
AE
Here
tonight,
to
consider
how
close
we
all
are
in
reality
to
homelessness.
All
of
us
are
just
a.
AE
AE
Like
we
all
do
my
own
relatives
who
work
hard
for
what
they
had
they're
good
people.
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
C
Next
up
is
tina
honeycutt
ms
hunnicutt
you'll
have
three
minutes.
Please
go
ahead.
AF
Okay!
Sorry
about
that,
this
is
tina
hunnicutt
and
for
the
council
members.
AF
AF
So
I
am
keeping
my
promise.
I
am
here
to
tell
you
one
of
the
things
I.
AF
AF
C
Next
up
is
rm,
I
believe
renee
miller,
camilo
you'll
have
three
minutes.
Please
go
ahead.
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
A
AH
AH
AH
AH
AH
AH
AH
C
C
C
C
C
C
AI
AI
AI
A
Could
you
please
state
your
full
name
yep,
certainly
so
my
name
is
nora
weber.
I'm.
AJ
About
four
blocks
from
seminary
square,
so
I
support
this
ordinance
and
I'd
like
to
start
by.
AJ
AJ
A
AK
AK
Housing
price
in
indiana
also,
seven
percent
of
people
in
bloomington.
AK
Short-Term
housing
for
people
to
get
into
long-term
housing
and
now
that's
been
closed.
AK
Also,
federally
supported
housing
programs
have
dramatically
reduced
in
the
past
20
years.
AK
And
also
safety
net
programs,
so
during
the
pandemic
center
stone
closed
the
building.
AK
Of
homeless
were
unable
to
see
their
doctor
to
get
counseling
or
to
get
medication.
AK
AK
AK
AK
C
Next
up
is
tassie
gennady,
who
should
be
ready
to
unmute
you'll
have
three
minutes.
Please
go.
AL
And
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
several
points.
One
was,
I
was
doing
some
work,
outreach
work.
AL
Heart,
like
I'm,
almost
tearing
up
thinking
about
it
right
now.
These
really
are
people
who
are.
AL
Now
I
want
to
flip
the
script
at
one
point:
someone
asked
counselor
piedmont,
smith,.
AL
AL
AL
AL
AL
For
not
only
its
humanitarian
response
to
these
folks,
but
also
the
way
in
which
it
saved
city.
AL
Money
has
also
instituted,
it's
just
opened
its
first
tiny
home
enclave,
which
maybe
could.
AL
And
what,
if
and
what,
if
and
so,
they
have
recently
welcomed
their
first
guests
in
the.
AL
AL
A
Next
speaker,
please:
next
up,
we
have
email
address,
rob
rank
iu.edu.
Can
you
please
state
your.
A
A
AM
AM
Silence
before
deputy
mayor
mick
renaissance
eventually
said
quote:
I'm
not
sure
one
of
the
core.
AM
That
this
is
one
of
the
core
service
areas
that
we
feel
need
to
get
into.
That
is
a
stunning.
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
Part
of
this
conversation,
which
are
mostly,
I
assume,
people
who
don't
have
houses
and.
AM
AM
A
A
AN
That's
why,
I'm
speaking,
I
don't
want
to
repeat
too
much
of
what's
already
been
said
by
a
lot
of.
AN
Excellent
people-
and
I
don't
know
how
to
follow
up
that
great
comment
by
that
sociologist.
AN
I
think
that
it
probably
does
need
some
work,
but
all
legislation
goes
through
work.
I
don't.
AN
AN
AN
AN
Chamber
of
commerce
and
without
the
economic
development
commission,
and
I
think
that.
AN
AN
Before
you,
who
are
also
business
owners
and
people
of
privilege
not
end
up
in
a
textbook
about
you,.
A
AO
AO
AO
AO
AO
C
AP
Yeah
hello,
my
name
is
quinton
deppert,
I'm
a
senior
at
the
o'neill
school.
AP
AP
AP
AP
AP
AP
AP
AP
A
Next
speaker,
please:
next
up
is
alicia
mojarod,
who
should
now
be
ready
to
comment.
Miss
mildred.
A
You'll
have
three
minutes:
please
go
ahead,
hi!
Yes,
my
name
is
alessia
vajard
and
I'm
a.
AQ
This
call
will
be
voting
for
it
whenever
the
vote
does
come
up
throughout
this
call
and
numerous.
AQ
In
response
to
israel
piedmont's
question,
I
hear
that
is
not
one
of
the
city's
core
services.
AQ
AQ
They
aren't
quote
unquote
the
other
that
we
need
to
to
be
shy
away
from
or
be
afraid
of.
AQ
AQ
And
it
would
ruin
relationships
that
you
might
have
with
business
owners
and
other
landowners.
AQ
AQ
AQ
Compassion,
I
don't
think
anyone
has
brought
up
the
fact
that
we
are
currently
in
a
pandemic.
AQ
AQ
That
we
could
be
doing
for
bloomington
in
our
community.
We
decide
that
this
month
the
last.
AQ
AQ
Is
that
2023
in
the
primary
election
is
a
lot
sooner
than
we
all
think,
and
I
hope.
AQ
That
you're,
considering
your
vote
right
now
and
that
election
and
I
do
know
that
everyone.
AF
AR
Bloomington
dsa
supports
increased
protections
for
people
experiencing
homelessness.
We
call
on.
AR
AR
AR
AR
AR
Sleeping
versus
staying
in
a
tent
of
your
own,
where
you
have
privacy,
I
think
it's
a
I
just.
AR
Don't
understand
what
that
false
equivalency
is.
We
have
parks
for
the
benefit
of
the
public,
we're.
AR
In
a
pandemic
and
our
public
is
hurting
and
needs
these
spaces
to
be
used,
so
I
fully
support.
AR
This
amendment
mary
carmichael,
stated
that
the
city
does
not
have
expertise
in
this
area.
We
have.
AR
Heard
from
several
experts
in
the
community
who
are
who
are
working
with
the
public.
AR
And
they
are
in
support
of
this
ordinance,
the
only
the
only
community
resources
that
I.
AR
AR
AR
Sleeping
in
the
park,
that's
your
time
two
words
bearcat
and
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
AS
AS
Thank
the
sponsors
of
of
this
ordinance,
both
for
putting
it
forward
and
for.
AS
Your
speaking
on
behalf
of
it
in
this
meeting,
I
really
appreciate
all
of
your
words
to
to.
AS
The
rest
of
the
city
council-
I
I
think
it's
going
to
be
very
important
to
remember.
AS
In
support
of
creating
encampments
for
people,
I
think
forest
gilmore
really.
AS
It
won't
create
more
people,
sleeping
in
our
city
parks
or
wherever,
whatever
designated.
AS
Location
is,
is,
is
established.
This
is
about
how
we
are
choosing
to
treat
the
people.
AS
You
know
people
who
have
nowhere
to
sleep
inside
will
simply
go
away.
That
also
is
not
true.
AS
AS
AS
AS
AT
AT
AT
AT
AT
That
the
council
members
that
are
presenting
this
ordinance
have
characterized
it
earlier,
as.
AT
AT
AT
AT
AT
AT
AT
AT
This
evening
form
the
basis
for
our
request
to
oppose
this.
No
one
is
suggesting
that
we
ignore.
AT
AT
AT
AU
Thank
you
very
much.
I
would
like
to
you
sometimes
the
best
words
to
argue
your
case.
AU
At
the
very
beginning
of
this,
I
believe
it
was
council
member
rosenberger
who
talked
about.
AU
AU
About
things
people
are,
people
are
sleepers.
I
believe
it
was
council
guthrie.
If
not,
I
apologize.
AU
AU
A
C
C
Our
next
speaker
is
anani,
who
should
now
be
ready
to
comment
yeah
hi.
This
is
ananya.
AV
AV
Thank
you
so
much,
I'm
totally
in
favor
of
decriminalizing
homelessness
and
I
think.
AW
I
think
we
also
need
to
question
or
need
to
gather
some
data
as
to
whatever
community.
AW
AW
Family
members
who
I
go
out,
you
know
to
social
park.
There
have
been
certain
instances
where.
AW
Know
look
at
needles
in
the
park
while
my
child
is
playing
in
the
park
and
I'm
kind
of
concerned.
AW
AW
AW
AW
A
AX
AX
AX
AX
Night
and
decide
that
their
trash
that
needs
to
just
get
swept
away
to
be
treated
like
that.
AX
This
ongoing
trauma
to
people's
need
to
play
in
the
park.
People's
need
to
you
know,
get
their.
AX
Bottom
line
met
in
their
businesses,
it's
not
to
be
compared.
We
need
to
take
care
of
these
people.
AX
Then
we
need
to
do
it
now
and
I
that's
really
all
I
have
to
say
I'm.
I
hope
that
we
can
be
on
the.
AX
Go
on
to
step
two
three
four
and
clean
it
up.
Thank
you
thank
you
and
with
that
we're
going.
A
Is
a
community
of
the
whole?
It
isn't
just
a
committee
meeting
and
we
could
go
to
another.
A
That
we
should
address
with
the
appropriate
amount
of
time,
but
barring
that.
B
B
A
Council,
whether
that
be
move
due
pass
to
take
it
up
in
another
session
or
the
like,
so
that's.
A
A
Constantly
scandalourly,
yes,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
council
member
flaherty's
thought
that
we
could.
AZ
AZ
That
next
week
will
give
us
additional
opportunity
to
look
through
questions
and
to
seek
responses.
AZ
AZ
Committee
the
whole,
so
thank
you.
I
am
reminded
by
mr
lucas
that
we
are
limited
in
what
we
can
do.
A
A
We
simply
report
on
what
we
what
was
decided
so
that
might
inform
your
decisions
as
to.
A
A
We
don't
make
a
you
know
that
the
committee
does
not
recommend
adoption,
but
simply
reports
on.
AZ
If
they
wanted,
yes,
okay,
that's
entirely
up
to
us.
In
that
case,
I
might
recommend
and.
AZ
Move
that
we
rise
and
report,
we
need
not
necessarily
take
a
vote
tonight,
but
it
sounds.
A
A
Councilmember
flaherty
sure
thank
you
appreciate
members
of
the
public
sharing
views.
B
Tonight
and
my
council
members
colleagues,
I
definitely
appreciate
that
there
are
diverse
views.
B
In
the
community
on
this
topic
and
respect
everyone's
good
intentions,
even
when
we
disagree.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
BA
BA
That
I
work
at
area
10,
trying
to
help
people
so
sometimes
the
choices
we
have
to
make
about.
BA
BA
BA
Let's
come
together
and
move
forward
on
this,
I
as
well
as
my
other
colleagues
on
the
council,
have.
BA
So,
let's,
let's
pull
together
and
try
to
get
a
better
solution.
I
don't
it
seems
like.
BA
BA
BB
Thank
you.
I
think
that
was
a
very
well
spoken
statement
by
councilmember
smith.
BB
BB
Situation
committed
significant
resources,
personal
resources
and
I
admire
them
for
the.
BB
BB
BB
And
this
will,
you
know,
solve
the
situation.
Well,
not
that
anyone
thinks
that,
but
this
is.
BB
I
think
the
impression
that
you
know
is
was
was
made
is
that
you
know
he's
he's.
He
doesn't.
BB
It
and
I
think
that
the
fact
that
we
have
committed
significant
resources
of
the
city.
BB
In
working
what
is
on
a
first
take,
I
think
it
appears
to
be
to
fill
a
need
and
to
fill
a
gap.
BB
As
was
said
in
working
toward
a
providing
homeless
people
with
a
place
to
stay.
BB
BB
Parks
for
encampments
and
if
it
therefore
imposes
a
responsibility
of
care
and
and
and.
BB
Liability
concern
for
the
city
as
well
for
those
individuals
for
those
encampments
in
perpetuity.
BB
Departments
so
they've
expressed
concerns
about
the
time
the
resources,
the
expense.
BB
I
tend
to
think
that
it's
going
to
require
a
large
commitment.
We
don't
know
what
that
commitment.
BB
Is
in
terms
of
of
of
resources,
they've
cons,
they've
expressed
concerns
about
having
the.
BB
Needed
skills
to
be
able
to
implement
this,
and
there
are
implications
that
they
don't
know
about.
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
BB
Doesn't
do
that,
and
so
for
those
reasons
I
I
I
will
probably
I'm
not
going
to
support
this,
but.
BB
Take
action
so
I'll
conclude
there
thanks.
Thank
you
further
first
round
comment.
BC
BC
I
do
not
think
that
it
was
overwhelmingly
against
the
ordinance
if
we
count
the
public
comment.
BC
Tonight
and
the
emails,
I
think
it's
probably
more
in
favor
of
the
ordinance
we
do.
BC
BC
BC
BC
BC
Prevent
them
from
from
feeling
safe
there
or
even
identity
issues
that
prevent
them
from
feeling.
BC
BC
BC
You
know
I
I
would
love
to
hear
other
solutions.
What
are
the
alternatives.
BC
You
know
this
problem
has
been
with
the
community
for
40
years
and
we
have
not
addressed
it.
You.
BC
BC
BC
And
appreciate
that,
but
the
immediate
problem
of
people
who
are
in
extreme
need
and
struggling.
BC
BC
BC
If
there
is
another
way
to
make
these
to
to
acknowledge
the
rights
of
these
individuals,.
BC
And
and
give
them
the
security
of
at
least
not
being
illegal,
then
let
me
hear.
BC
It
I
would
like
to
hear
it.
I
have
not
heard
a
better
a
better
way,
and
I
think
that
this
is.
AY
AY
AY
AY
And
there
have
been
quite
a
few
who,
who
actually
said
they
don't
want
to
come
into
these.
AY
AY
AY
AY
AY
One
that
has
contacted
me
that
opposes
this
policy,
because
it's
flawed
would
it
would,
it
would
say.
A
Minutes,
thank
you,
one
broad
statement
and
then
two
more
specific
ones.
That
may
be
helpful.
AZ
As
we
frame
next
week's
conversation,
it
was
interesting
to
me
that
that
someone,
two
people.
AZ
AZ
Digits,
I
can't
remember
the
exact
numbers
and
another
speaker
who
also
supported
this
ordinance.
AZ
Reminded
us
that
we
need
to
think
about
the
people
who
aren't
here.
Therein
lies
the
nuance
and
the.
AZ
Challenge
of
the
decisions
we
need
to
make
up
here,
we
do
need
to
listen
to
voices
that
are
here.
AZ
And
voices
that
are
not
here
a
few
more
specific
points
I
want
to
make.
AZ
There
is
ambiguity
and
language
here
that
I
am
struggling
with
still
the
quest
the
fundamental.
AZ
AZ
AZ
AZ
AZ
AZ
AZ
Is
there
additional
ppe
that
we're
going
to
need
for
our
staff
how
much
staff
time
will
be
taken.
AZ
AZ
Understand
what
trade-offs
we're
making
here
so
again,
I
appreciate
the
discussion
tonight.
I
am.
AZ
BD
BD
BD
BD
Made
comments
tonight
and
it's
really
good
to
hear
different
perspectives
from
all
sides.
BD
BD
People
experiencing
homelessness
are
part
of
everyone
who
gets
to
use
our
public
parks.
I.
BD
To
play
here,
but
I
think
that
is
incredibly
incorrect.
Basically,
I
think
this
ordinance.
BD
BD
Property
that
is
a
little
wild
to
me,
because
I
think
the
city
buys
or
attempts
to
buy
property.
BD
For
different
uses,
all
the
time,
a
few
came
to
mind
pretty
quickly
the
hospital
site,
the
property.
BD
That
we
bought
for
the
convention
center
that
is
on
hold
and
then
the
attempt
to
buy
the.
BD
Penny
for
that
one,
so
I
think
when
we
want
to
buy
property,
we
do
buy
property.
BD
BD
BD
A
A
A
A
Councilmember
smith
spoke
with
the
residents
of
district
3..
Councilman
baralos
spoke
primarily.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Any
debate
on
the
motion
to
rise
and
report,
mr
lucas,
is
that
motion
even
debatable.
C
I
I
believe
so
and
and
just
to
clarify
for
council
members,
the
a
motion
to.
C
Recommendation
so
just
wanted
to
mention
that,
but
yes,
I
think
this
is
debatable.
Nevertheless,.
A
A
V
A
A
The
council
is
going
to
report
back
to
itself
next
week
at
second
reading.
This.
A
Will
be
taken
up
again,
it
may
be
voted
on
as
early
as
next
week.
A
A
As
a
city
address
is
tomorrow,
I
believe
at
7
pm
and
it
will
be
virtual
and
if
there's
anyone.
C
In
multiple
locations
very
good,
I
encourage
everyone
to
attend.
I
want
to
thank
everyone's.
A
Attendance
tonight
I
appreciate
everyone's
presence
staff
council
members
and
the
public.
A
On
march,
the
3rd
with
that,
I
will
adjourn
this
meeting
good
night.