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From YouTube: Bloomington City Council Budget Advance, April 25, 2023
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A
A
tonight's
meeting,
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
public
is,
is
conducted
less
formally
than
an
actual
council
meeting,
but
we
still
have
a
number
of
items
that
we
want
to
tackle
as
part
of
our
budget
advance.
So
we
will
begin
with
some
introductory
comments
from
the
administration
and
from
the
clerk's
office
and
then
beyond
that
we
Sim
we
have
an
opportunity
for
council
members
to
share
their
priorities
and
their
aspirations
for
the
2024
budget.
A
The
sections
listed
here
well
I'll
actually
save
that
until
we
get
to
that
section,
we'll
then
have
an
opportunity
for
public
comment,
both
here
and
Via
zoom,
and
then
we
will
talk
about
next
steps
in
the
budgeting
process.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
the
administration,
I'm,
not
sure
who
will
be
starting
us
off
this
evening.
B
B
Okay
thanks
a
lot
I'll
be
very
brief.
We
are
here
to
listen.
We
look
forward
to
working
together
getting
a
good
discussion
suggestions
about
the
2024
budget,
we're
very,
very
proud
of
the
work
we've
done
together
over
the
last
three
budgets
with
this
Council
and
four
before
that,
with
many
of
you,
I
will
I
will
only
say
today.
I
think
that
you
know
last
year,
when
we
prepared
this
budget
I
described
it
as
a
transformative
budget
for
2023
and
I
really
think
it
is.
B
B
B
As
our
next
chapter
in
2024
of
continuing
to
be
an
employer
of
choice,
leaning
into
sustainability,
as
we
have
done
and
leaning
into
inclusion
and
how
we
make
sure
the
City
Works
for
everybody
who
who
is
here
and
wants
to
be
here
so
I
encourage
you
to
review
priorities.
I
look
forward
to
hearing
that
from
you
and
look
forward
to
continuing
dialogue
as
we
go
forward.
Thank.
C
D
C
Us
we
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
listen.
We
are
using
going
to
go
forward
with
the
information
We
Gather
tonight
and
use
that
to
guide
our
thoughts
and
our
work
going
forward,
and
thank
you
too,
for
the
time
I
know
you've
already
spent
reflecting
on
the
2023
budget.
How
that's
been
going
so
far
that
I
know
it's
still
seems
really
early
in
the
year
to
be
reflecting,
but
that
kind
of
starts
the
the
minute
the
calendar
turns
over
so
anyway.
C
B
B
E
G
This
is
where
we
usually
do
it,
or
at
least
get
started.
I
wanted
to
express
both
to
the
administration
and
to
the
council.
What
we're
looking
for
in
the
clerk's
office
in
the
upcoming
year,
actually
I'm
going
to
say
years,
because
when
we
do
have
changes
in
our
budget,
we
tend
to
keep
them
small,
but
this
year,
I'm
looking
for
something
a
little
more
substantive
I
know.
There
are
several
potential
topics
listed
that
the
council
members
are
going
to
want
to
talk
about.
I
do
want
to
talk
about
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
G
We
did
some
training,
not
all
of
the
council
members
attended
on
a
regular
basis
and
not
all
staff
were
able
to
participate
on
a
regular
basis,
and
I
would
like
to
see
funding
go
into
that
and
continue
to
go
into
that
for
the
city.
We
are
changing
as
a
community
and
our
staff
needs
to
keep
up.
G
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
done
through
the
clerk's
office
is
get
additional
training
through
that
Fund
in
particular,
and
we've
gotten
certified
and
everything
else
so
I'd
like
to
see
that
continue
and
last
perhaps
most
difficult
I
would
like
to
see
increased
funding
for
the
clerk
staff
I
understand.
In
the
past.
There
have
been
employment
reviews,
that's
handled
through
the
administration,
but
it
seems
based
on
the
salaries
and
the
work
that
clerk
staff
do.
G
There
seems
to
be
a
fundamental
misunderstanding
of
the
importance
of
the
office
and
the
work
that
we
do
here
so
I'm
open
to
and
happy
to
have
further
discussions
with
the
administration
going
into
the
budget
season.
So
we
can
talk
about
clerk
staff
and
their
salaries
and
my
salary
as
well,
because
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
I'm
paid
about
thirty
thousand
dollars
less
than
any
other
department
head
in
the
city
and
the
last
time
you
did
a
salary
study.
You
based
it
on
a
classically,
underpaid
position
filled
with
women.
G
G
I
Priorities
just
a
clarifying
question
with
respect
to
the
first
item
or
two
related
to
investment
and
training
for
staff
and
for
elected
officials
in
different
departments,
as
well
as
ongoing,
Education
and
Training,
specifically,
diversity,
Equity
inclusion
initiatives
in
the
first
category,
but
I
think
there
were
sort
of
two
distinct
items
you
shared
is
that
funding
directly
for
the
clerk's
office
that
you're
anticipating
or
do
you
mean
as
a
priority
generally
for
for
the
city
that
would
impact
clerk's
office
but
be
broader?
Oh.
G
Okay
and
for
the
city
in
general,
I
think
it's
important
I
think
there
are
programs
available
and
ongoing
learning
and
staff
doesn't
always
isn't
always
able
to
Avail
themselves
with
that
when
they
have
a
choice
between
one
type
of
training
or
another,
and
they
think
oh
well.
This
can
wait
and
I
think
that's
a
problem.
A
Okay
from
the
council
members
for
I
had
focused
on
for
now.
G
D
F
I
K
I'll
go
further
and
say
that
this
has
always
been
a
preliminary
meeting.
It's
meant
to
be
treated
like
a
committee.
It's
meant
to
be
lower
key.
It's
always
been
on
a
Tuesday.
It's
always
been
a
little
bit
early
to
accommodate
staff.
There's
nothing
unusual
about
what
we're
doing
here
and
there
are
plenty
of
opportunities
in
the
rest
of
the
process
for
other
kinds
of
input,
but
this
was
meant
to
give
elected
officials
a
chance
to
State
their
priorities.
K
L
B
M
F
Is
that
am
I
correct
there?
Okay,
so
I
would
think
it'd
be
more
fruitful
if
we
indicate
and
I
do
indicate
right
now
that
I
think
that
needs
to
be
adjusted
upward.
What
her
request
is
to
what
level
I
don't
know,
but
I
think
it's
more
fruitful.
If
that
conversation
was
to
happen
there
and
then
we
could
fully
consider
it
moving
forward
or
change
it,
as
the
case
may
be,
because
there's
still
time
like
councilman
Bolden,
said
so
yeah,
but
I
do.
If
we
need
this
I
support.
A
The
question
I'm
inclined
to
agree
with
council
member
Roland.
The
focus
of
this
was
for
an
opportunity
for
Council
to
focus
its
questions,
so
I
would
like
to
keep
the
focus
there.
There
is
opportunity
for
public
comment,
certainly
later
on
and
you're
welcome,
to
share
thoughts
or
comments,
then
so
with
that
okay
I
want
to
thank
council
member
Piedmont
Smith
for
for
talking
with
me
and
sorting
out
what
you
see
is
the
next
series
of
categories
on
your
agenda.
A
When
we
initially
talked
about
this
it,
we
essentially
went
from
comments
by
the
administration
to
comments
from
Council
as
a
whole,
and
that
seemed
a
bit
unwieldy
and
a
bit
unfocused,
and
so
what
we've
laid
out
here
are
just
some
very
broad
categories
in
which
people
may
want
to
speak
to
their
own
priorities
for
the
2024
budget.
A
These
are
not
necessarily
meant
to
be
exhaustive.
They
are
not
meant
to
constrain
so
that
we
can
only
talk
about
transit
in
the
context
of
Transit,
but
not
under
climate
action
and
sustainability.
They're
not
meant
to
be
constraining.
They're
just
meant
to
lend
a
little
bit
of
structure
to
our
conversation
tonight.
Does
that
make
sense,
council
member
Piedmont
Smith
have
I
left
anything
out,
okay.
L
I
I
agree:
I
Look
to
our
established
City
goals
and
plans
to
help
guide
priorities,
I,
try
to
identify
and
think
about
gaps,
things
where
we
have
goals
stated
or
plans
that
we'd
like
to
achieve,
but
we're
falling
short
and
so
I'll
get
into
some
of
those
details
later
with
respect
to
different
categories.
I
I
think
I
agree
with
the
overall
sort
of
framework
that
the
mayor's
laid
out
in
in
previous
years
and
again
this
year
about
being
an
employer
of
choice,
so
salary,
Staffing,
General,
Personnel,
benefits,
policies,
sustainability
and
and
climate
justice,
as
well
as
inclusion,
diversity,
Equity
and
accessibility
in
our
community.
So
those
I
think
are
good
broad
categories,
I
think
when
we
get
into
details,
that's
where
it's
gonna,
you
know
we're
gonna,
have
probably
differences
of
opinion
and
figure
out
what
can
be
done,
one
or
two
more
thoughts.
I
One
one
I
asked
last
year
a
number
of
times
for
kind
of
additional
Clarity
with
respect
to
revenue
sources
and
where
they
go
to
what
they
are
limited.
What
limits
there
are
with
respect
to
their
allocation.
As
you
all
know,
many
many
Revenue
sources
have
statutorily
defined
limits
about
what
they
can
be
spent
on,
and
then
we
also
have
quite
a
few
interfund
transfers,
so
things
come
into
one
area
and
get
moved
to
a
different
area.
I
So
my
interest
in
that
is
that
we've
always
historically
taken
a
sort
of
fund
based
approach
to
the
budget.
Here's
what
we
expect
to
be
in
each
of
the
funds.
Here's
what
we're
posing
that
gets
allocated
on,
but
I
think
that
sort
of
makes
less
clear.
The
whole
picture
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
understand
where
the
different
Revenue
sources
are,
what
they
can
be
used
for
and
and
what
funds
they're
feeding
into,
as
well
as
again
looking
at
fund
transfers
so
that
we
have
a
deeper
understanding
of
the
whole
budget
process.
I
I
think
we
made
some
progress
on
that
front
last
year,
so
I
need
to
get
back
into
the
details.
That's
been,
you
know,
six
months,
since
we
were
talking
about
this
last,
to
sort
of
see
what
I
thought
worked
well
and
where
I
maybe
still
have
questions
or
additional
requests
for
data
or
clarification,
but
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
as
a
continued
area
of
emphasis,
I
think
we
need
to
work
on
and
then
finally
I'm
curious.
Next
time
we
hear
more
from
from
the
mayor
about
his
approach
to
budgeting
this
year.
I
I
was
thinking
about
transition
to
a
new
mayoral
Administration
in
2024,
and
what
that
means
to
this
Administration
with
respect
to
planning.
Are
there?
Are
there
things
you
intend
to
approach
differently
because
of
that
transition
and
and
some
inherent
uncertainty
with
respect
to
that?
Obviously,
quite
soon,
we'll
actually
know
who
the
mayor
elect
is
and
that
sure
we
can
help
with
coordination,
but
I'm
curious
to
know
more
about
that.
So
that's
the
other
high
level
item
I
wanted
to
share.
Thank
you.
M
I'll
just
look
at
this
broad
categories
and
and
say
out
loud
that
I'd
like
to
see
the
we
do
have
a
clarification
on
some
of
the
fund
balances.
It.
M
To
to
understand
exactly
where
we're
at
with
you
know,
Tiff
Creed
arpa,
whatever
else
we
have
out
there
in
that
in
a
preliminary
sense,
I'd
like
I
I,
would
like
to
understand
that
before
we
kind
of
keep
getting
farther
down
the
road
in
in
public
safety,
I
think
I
would
say
to
the
administration
that
just
that
we
look
at
how
we're
doing
if
we're
making
you
know
some
progress
in
that
area
in
the
budget
can
then
reflect
whether
we
need
to
be
more
concerned
about
that
add
more
funds.
M
Transit
I
think
is
we're
going
in
the
right
direction.
I
think
yeah.
D
A
O
I
would
just
like
to
Echo
Isabelle
said
I'd
also
like
to
ask
a
question:
are
we
saying
first
names
tonight
or
not?
You
know.
O
O
L
Well,
I
I
think
that
we
need
to
take
a
serious
look
at
firefighter
salaries
and
of
the
staff
losses
in
the
fire
department
to
other
departments
after
they're
well
trained
here
in
Bloomington,
I
think
that's
becoming
a
more
serious
issue
and
the
possibility
of
opening
negotiations
early
on
the
fire
contract
should
be
well
considered.
K
I
just
ask
Isabelle
to
follow
up.
Are
you
saying
that
that
the
administration
needs
to
sort
of
put
a
an
extra
chunk
of
money,
even
though
I
mean
like,
in
other
words
they?
They
can't
be
specific
because
they
haven't
negotiated
something
new,
but
that
there
should
be
extra
money
so
that
it
could
be
funded
if
they
come
to
an
agreement?
Is
that
your
idea.
L
Pretty
mature
I
feel
that
the
administration
ought
to
open
negotiations
as
soon
as
possible
and
the
sooner
the
negotiations
can
be
opened
and
I
know
it's
a
year
early,
the
sooner
we
might
have
an
agreement,
and
but,
as
always,
you
know
if
the
agreement
were
up
this
year,
we
might
be
short
of
all
the
data
we
need
at
budget
time
also,
but
you
know
the
sooner:
it's
open
the
better.
K
The
reason
I
ask
is
because
we
are
capable
of
of
I
mean
the
administration
can
bring
an
appropriation
ordinance.
If
and
when
they
come
I
mean
they
could
bring
it
anytime.
They
could
bring
it
next
month
if
they
wanted
to,
they
don't
have
to
do
it
as
a
part
of
the
budget
and
so
like
if
you're
saying
that
your
priority
is
that
the
the
your
vote
on
a
budget
is
contingent
on
a
new
agreement.
L
A
Not
I
have
a
couple
I'll
jump
in
just
a
commentary
in
general
that
I
I
think
certainly
I
and
I'm.
Guessing
many
of
us
will
be
watching
closely
as
the
new
Public
Safety
headquarters
comes
together.
Let
us
do
everything
we
can
do
not
to
give
that
short
shrift.
We
have
planned.
We
have.
We
have
taken
something
of
a
leap
of
faith
that
that
site
will
work.
Let
us
not
give
that
short
shift
in
when
we
do
our
when
we
make
that
fit
for
the
new
the
new
occupants.
A
So
the
other
item,
a
couple
items
I
want
to
bring
up
actually
go
back
to
the
community
advisory
on
Public
Safety,
commission
Town
Hall
that
was
held
a
few
weeks
ago.
Isabelle
and
I
were
part
of
that
I'm.
Trying
to
think
and
Jim
was
part
of
that.
That's
right.
A
A
So
in
other
words,
what
happens
when
you
call
9-1-1
what
happens
when
you
call
988?
What
are
the
backup
plans
when,
when
preferred
responders,
are
not
available?
So
perhaps
some
resources
could
be
dedicated
to
increased
communication
around
that?
A
Not
just
Staffing
I'll,
get
to
that
in
a
second,
but
to
additional
Communications
and
and
Resident
education
around
that,
so
I
would
encourage
us
to
think
about
that
and
how
that
might
be
worked
into
next
year's
budget.
A
I
also
think
that
we
may
want
to
do
what
we
can
to
consider
expanding
the
hours
that
we
have
downtown
resource
officers
that
we
have,
and
after
the
days
of
the
week
in
which
we
have
an
after
hours,
Ambassador
I've
heard
in
the
Caps
commission,
town
hall
and
a
couple
other
settings
about
the
need
for
more
hours
of
available
responses
from
the
city,
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
the
city
consider
that
at
some
point
additional
comments
on
public
safety.
F
You
I
think
it's
going
to
take
a
while
for
us
to
get
fully
staffed
in
both
police
and
fire,
but
I
mean,
let's
just
face
it:
I'm,
going
to
focus
more
on
police
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
we've
cultivated
over
the
last
couple
years
is
the
use
of
our
non-sworn
officers
and
staff.
F
So
I'd
really
like
to
hear
progress
of
what
we
have
and
if
that
makes
sense
plans
going
into
the
future,
because
I
think
there's
plans
or
I
hope,
there's
plans
to
increase
those
non-sworn
officer
positions
and,
lastly,
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
going
to
be
important
that
how
they
function,
how
efficient
and
effective
they
are
can
have
some
effect
on
the
number
of
badged
officers
that
we
need
at
least
until
we're
fully.
F
You
know,
at
least
where
we're
budgeted
so
and
I
think
I
think
there's
a
learning
opportunity
here,
while
we're
struggling
to
get
to
this
point.
Let's
see
what
we
can
do
here
and
then
once
we
get
up
here,
I
think
that'll
be
better
overall
I
won't
say
kind
of
some
of
the
things.
I
think
that
could
happen
from
this,
but
I
think
we'd
all
might
be
surprised
at
what
we
can
do
when
we
manip
utilize
those
numbers
almost
to
manipulate
those
numbers
but
adjust
adjust.
F
Those
numbers,
I
think,
is
a
better
term,
and
basically,
that
is
I
mean
there's
Dei
and
a
bunch
of
other
stuff.
It's
hard
to
separate
Public
Safety
from
from
a
lot
of
stuff,
it's
hard
to
extricate
it,
but
at
least
for
that
part
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
A
I
I
would
encourage
continued
creative
and
forward-thinking
approaches
out,
respect
to
the
whole
Suite
of
Public
Safety
as
as
inclusive
of
policing
and
fire,
but
also
broader
than
that
I.
Think.
That's
generally,
the
approach
the
the
mayor
has
tried
to
take
and
I
appreciate
that
so
just
voicing
support
for
continued
emphasis
and
focus
there
with
respect
to
Staffing
and
personalities.
I'll
save
that
for
the
other
category
that
has
that
thanks
great
I'd.
M
Like
that,
oh
it's,
okay,
oh
I,
just
I,
just
I'm
gonna,
agree
with
General
tenor
of
what
we're
talking
about
here.
The
one
thing
also
that
I
was
thinking
when
we
do
these
budgets
and
put
it
put
them
together.
M
So
if,
if
the
budget,
if
say
Pub,
whoever
in
public
safety,
fire
or
police,
if
they
have
some
new
programs
that
are
really
you
know,
bold
initiatives
to
be
yeah,
keep
us
safer
to
be
more
inclusive,
etc,
etc.
It'd
be
really
great.
If,
if
we
had
I
want
to
say
a
line,
item
dedicated
to
that
and
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
always
how
it's
constructed
in
budgets.
M
I
know
it
can
be
or
cannot
be,
but
those
kind
of
things
it
shows,
then
what
our
values
are
and
and
so
I
think
that
would
be
really
great.
If
we
could
say
here's
here's
the
proposed
budget
and
it
makes
it
clearer
to
me
that
here's
what
we're
doing
for
those
issues
and
here's
how
much
money
we're
going
to
put
forward
to
it
and
and
even
if
that's
the
first
time,
it's
done,
then
maybe
next
time.
That
leads
us
for
future
things.
To
continue
to
do
that
and
I
like
to
see
that
in
budgets.
M
O
Thanks
what
this
is,
this
is
a
more
of
just
data,
finding
I
that
I
would
like
to
see
so
I.
My
question
is
about:
if
someone
calls
any
number
911-988
and
there's
they
say
like
this-
is
a
domestic
dispute
who
gets
sent
out
so
like
what
is
that
process?
Is
it
sworn
officers?
Are
there
domestic
violence
Specialists
that
go
like
I
would
like
to
see
sort
of
our
response
teams
to
different
scenarios
right
if
someone's
sleeping
in
a
park
who
gets
sent
out
if
somebody
calls
9-1-1
there,
that's
awesome.
A
K
I
want
to
piggyback
on
Ron's
comment:
I
think
that
in
general
I
like
the
what
he's
suggesting
about
better
being
able
to
track
certain
initiatives
through
the
budget,
I
know
that
the
reason
why
I
am
still
a
proponent
of
the
the
local
income
tax
we
passed
last
year
is
because
the
priorities
that
we
set
for
it
are
continuing
to
be
observed
like
we
know
that
dollars
are
going
to
be
satisfied,
as
we
imagine
them
that
year,
even
though
they
didn't
necessarily
have
to
be
so.
K
The
the
trust
between
I
mean
because
the
council,
you
know,
only
has
limited
authority
over
the
budget.
It's
a
very
important
signal
of
trust
when
you
know
like
the
the
budget
is
broken
down
in
that
way,
and
that
we
can
trust
it.
If
we
vote
for
something
this
year
outside
of
a
bond
where
we're
obligated
for
20
years
that
we
know
that
the
priority
will
continue,
we
don't
have
to
chase
it.
So
you
know
like
from
an
overall
budget
perspective.
K
That's
always
been
a
challenge
for
Council
Members
is
to
track
the
various
priorities
that
we
often
talk
about,
and
so
what?
What
Ron
just
said
is
you
know,
like
yes,
I,
agree
kind
of
I
want
to
see
that
sort
of
thing
broken
down
and
there's
a
couple
of
points
I'll
be
addressing
in
later
agenda
items.
There
I
mean
that
actually
goes
for
the
clerk's
budget
too.
K
Like
you
know,
the
the
clerk
I
think
that
part
of
the
reason
that
not
enough
people
understand
the
job
that
she
does
is
that
we
just
sort
of
lump
it
all
into
the
clerk's
budget,
and
maybe
if,
if
we
could,
if
you
could
sort
of
break
down
your
budget
a
little
bit
to
show
us
I
mean
like
a
program
budget
I,
think
you
do
that
already
where
you
well
there
you
go
just
like
you
know
to
better
explain.
K
So
I
would
just
say
that,
since
she
has
to
go
soon
that
I
think
that
the
clerk
you
know,
I
still
believe
that
boards
and
commissions
are
the
kind
of
thing
that
there's
a
huge
clerical
task
involved
with
managing
that
the
clerk
already
does
and
that
I
think
the
apartments
would
be
better
served
if
more
of
that
work
was
factored
out
to
the
clerk,
the
the
tasks
of
of
scheduling
and
tracking
and
and
even
supporting
boards
and
commissions.
K
The
problem
with
that
is
the
office
would
need
funding
to
do
it.
K
Like
there's
no
question
that
it's
it's
labor-intensive
task,
it's
just
that
I
think
that
we
could
subtract
a
few
hours
from
every
Department
that
is
currently
having
to
reinvent
the
wheel
every
time
to
manage
the
one
or
two
commissions
that
they
oversee
when
the
the
work
is
the
same,
and
it
can
all
be
done
in
an
office,
that's
very
good
at
managing
Logistics,
you
know
the
literal
Office
of
the
clerk,
so
I
certainly
don't
want
to
give
the
clerk's
office
any
more
work
without
ensuring
that
it's
funded.
M
K
Mean
I'll
just
say
one
more
thing
that
the
the
the
the
line
items
that
came
with
the
local
income
tax
that
we
raised
last
year
was
the
the
model
for
what
we
should
be
doing
like
you
know,
we
could
be
more
specific
in
that
way,
so
that
everyone,
starting
with
council
members,
can
more
easily
track
the
various
initiatives
I
mean
the
administration
is
doing
dozens,
hundreds
of
initiatives
you
know
somehow
we
need
to
as
Council
Rock
them
all
pay
attention
to
them.
A
Say
come
back
to
that
point
in
a
second,
so
what's
a
good
way
to
do
that
we
had
a
great
spreadsheet
with
the
Ed
lit,
I.
Think
and
I
agree
with
you
I
think
it
would
be
nice
to
say
all
right
of
the
things
we
hope
to
accomplish
with
Transit.
What
have
we
done
so
far?
Yeah.
A
K
No
I
think
it's
a
budget
thing.
It's
just
that
the
way
I
mean
I'm,
not
averse,
to
talking
about
different
ways
to
think
about
how
we
do
the
budget,
starting
with
how
we
should
do
the
budget
advance
I,
don't
necessarily
want
to
do
it
during
the
budget
Advance
like
we
can
plan
that
in
the
committee
for
Council
processes,
but
the
it
started.
When
we
went
back
to
program
budgets
for
many
years,
we
didn't
actually
have
programs
in
the
Hamilton
Administration.
We
asked
for
it,
and
the
administration
brought
back
budgets
that
begin
to
break
down.
K
So
now,
when
a
department
head
presents,
they
talk
about
some
of
the
different
initiatives
they
do
and
what
ftes
it
takes.
That
was
a
big
help
that
helped
us
understand
what
departments
were
doing
you
know
and
and
why
they
were
doing
it.
They
were
just
giving
us
a
big
lump
sum.
Well,
we
need
this
and
we
had
this
many
ftes
okay,
so
you
might
want
to
call
these
sub-program
budgets
where
we're
following
initiatives
that
maybe
cross
programs
in
a
department,
but
it's
whatever
priorities.
K
Council
members
have,
if
we're
trying
to
track
an
initiative,
we
should
be
able
to
do
it
relatively
effortlessly
if
we
need
to
rebuild
the
way
that
we
build
the
budget
book
in
order
to
make
it
easier
to
read
I'm
all
for
it
and
I'm
happy
to
sit
in
on
anybody.
You'd
like
to
talk
about
the
design
of
the
budget,
because
I
think
that's
what
Ron
was
talking
about
in
the
first
place
is
how
we
designed
the
budget
to
better
follow
yeah.
M
Yeah
the
details,
the
budgets,
you
construct
them
that
way
with
sub
categories,
yeah
some
programs-
and
it
makes
it
so
much
easier
for
me
to
understand.
I-
know
it's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
lines
already
in
the
budget.
I
get.
O
I
have
some
things.
I
would
like
to
look
at
what
it
would
cost
to
regulate
to
the
best
of
our
ability
from
what
the
state
allows.
Airbnbs,
mostly
full-time
airbnbs,
so
I
think
that
would
be
certifying
them
and
charging
or
having
a
registration
fee
and
then
potentially
adding
them
to
our
rental
inspection
program.
So
I
think
we
have
somewhere
between
500
and
750
airbnbs
in
Bloomington,
and
that
work
would
of
course
add
a
lot
of
hours
to
City
staff
so
like
what?
What
that
might
look
like
numbers
wise
for
the
budget.
A
I
First
of
all
is
briefly
voice
support
for
Airbnb
regulation,
I
mean
it's
the
rental
housing
they
should
be
inspected,
make
sure
to
be
safe,
just
like
any
rental
housing
in
our
community,
but
I
have
more
questions
specific
to
the
Housing
Development
Fund
I
know:
we've
got
a
dedicated
funding
stream
going
to
that
now,
thanks
to
be
lit
and
I
would
like
to
know
just
a
bit
more
about
plans
for
that
Fund
in
the
in
the
coming
year
or
years.
I
How
it's
you
know
been
used
in
the
last
year
and
thinking
about
any
shifts
or
changes
that
would
be
needed
to
Target
strategic
interventions
to
where
gaps
exist
in
our
community
between
the
housing
authority
and
social
service
providers
and
other
other
aspects
of
our
housing
system.
I
So
some
of
that
thinking
about,
like
we
got
an
update
last
night,
some
of
the
council
members
did
about
the
landlord
risk
mitigation
fund,
for
instance,
and
its
use,
including
I,
think
they're
using
it
for
maybe
zero
interest
like
loans
for
deposit
assistance
in
the
small
tranche
of
money.
For
that
so
wanting
to
make
sure
that
those
things
are
well
supported.
I
Some
of
these
newer
initiatives
same
thing
with
the
Summit
Hill
community
of
Housing
Trust,
every
exactly
was
called
but
making
sure
that
we're
that,
if
those
things
are
being
drawn
down
in
some
way,
you
know
that
we're
able
to
replenish
them
and
I
don't
think
it
would
be
a
whole
lot.
I
K
I've
been
thinking
about
this
for
a
while,
but
I
think
that
we've
been
looking
at
the
where
we
can
use
funds
to
apply
to
get
something
built,
but
I
also
think
that
we
have
an
a
set
of
assets
that
isn't
cash
to
spend.
But
rather
you
know
assets
that
we
can
forego
I
mean
there's
the
idea
behind
a
tax
abatement
Can.
To
what
extent
can
we
use
tax
abatements
to
see
more
housing
built?
K
That
is
not
market
rate
I
mean
we've
heard
a
lot
of
people
talking
about
the
only
housing
that's
going
up,
is
either
market
rate
or
for
extremely
affordable
housing,
and
that
there's,
you
know
a
big
gap
in
between,
but
I
started,
thinking
of
it
as
living
rent
housing,
we're
looking
for
people
to
pay
living
wage,
but
people
can't
find
a
a
rent.
K
They
can
live
with
they're
paying
more
than
30
percent
of
their
housing,
but
we
have
these
assets
not
just
that
we
can
forego
taxes
to
incentivize
that
building,
but
that
there
are
certain
kinds
of
land
holders
in
our
community
that
have
potentially
developable
land
for
this
kind
of
housing.
That's
not
I
mean,
let's
call
them
all
housing
projects,
but
housing
projects
for
every
different
kind
of
of
tenant.
K
Can
we
work
with
schools
who
have
large
plots
of
land
to
build
housing
for
teachers
and
staffs
they
don't
have
to
commute
from
outside
the
county?
Can
we
work
with
churches
to
build
senior
housing
on
their
often
vast
expanses
of
green?
That
otherwise,
are
you
know
not
necessarily
in
use.
Can
we
work
with
I
mean
the
school
system
is
particularly
interesting
to
work
with
IU,
although
their
tax
free
to
get
them
to
build
housing
for
their
staff,
so
people
don't
have
to
commute
in
from
out
of
the
county.
K
Can
we
even
better
would
be
the
land
banks
that
are
parking
lots?
Can
we
incentivize
Eastland
Plaza
to
build
housing
on
this
vast
swath
of
heat,
increasing
parking?
Can
we
work
with
College
Mall?
What
incentives
would
it
take
to
get
them
to
build?
Let's
we
talked
about
this
with
the
Catalan
tax
abatement
last
year.
I
suggest
that
the
idea
can
we
get
somebody
to
build
on
top
of
that
parking.
It's
the
lowest
and
worst
form
of
land
use,
and
we
know
we
need
housing.
K
So
if
we
can
use
a
strategic
tax
abatement
to
incentivize
this
kind
of
housing
I
think
it
would
be
a
far
greater
source
of
potential
dollars
that
we
could
put
to
it
by
not
collecting
it.
In
the
first
place,
then
any
amount
of
dollars
we
could
hope
to
raise
so
again.
Entities
like
schools,
churches,
large
businesses
with
large
parking
lots.
K
We
need
not
just
housing
everywhere,
but
housing
that's
affordable
in
ways
that
maybe
forego
the
ownership
of
land
of
I
mean
it
doesn't
have
to
be
single
family
I.
It
could
be
a
condo
we'd
have
to
to
to
develop
model
legislation
for
HOA
fees,
to
prevent
multiple
ownership
ownership
of
multiple
units
by
one
owner
to
and
ensure
that
housing
is
kept
to
be
ownable
by
individuals,
but
that's
doable,
it's
very
doable
and
especially
if
we
make
it
city
code
that
your
HOA
has
to
follow
a
certain
set
of
of
rules.
K
These
all
contribute
to
the
house
the
enormous
problem
we
have
with
housing
without
necessarily
burning
through
what
few
dollars
that
we
actually
have
to
spend.
So
I
don't
have
much
more
developed
thought
than
that.
I
just
know
that
those
are
assets
that
we
could
be
tapping
and
while
I
know
this
Administration
won't
be
around
for
very
long.
They
could
set
some
interesting
standards
that
we
could
follow
in
the
future,
and
so
I
mean
I.
I
would
love
to
talk
about
that.
Some
more.
L
Related
to
the
budget,
but
it's
a
request
for
more
Communications
when
there
are
large
developments
going
on
even
before
they
come
to
plan.
Commission
I
know
that
developers
discuss
with
City
staff
what
their
plans
are
and,
for
example,
the
Sudbury
property
and
the
PUD
revisions
that
or
PUD
that
might
be
pursued
there.
The
these
are
all
very
important
elements
as
the
city
grows
and
I
would
I
think
that
the
the
council
should
be
included
earlier
on
in
the
vision
for
such
large
housing
developments
and
how
they
can
be.
L
You
know,
incentivized,
to
be
affordable
or
to
include
affordable
housing,
because
a
lot
of
that
happens
before
we
ever
hear
about
it
and
as
a
representative
of
the
community,
especially
those
of
us
who
represent
the
district
where
this
housing
takes
you
know,
is
built.
I
I
think
the
council
should
be
brought
on
board
a
little
sooner.
O
I
think
the
administration
talked
about
turning
a
city
a
lot
into
affordable
housing,
one
of
the
three
lots.
So
any
new
information
on
that
or
plan
for
that
to
be
in
the
budget
and
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
people
talking
about
a
tiny
home
or
single
room
occupancy
pilot
that
potentially
the
city
could
help
with
or
work
on
and
I.
Guess.
I
would
like
to
learn
a
little
bit
about
the
feasibility
of
something
like
that
for
people
without
homes.
F
A
couple
things
I
want
to
hear
more
about
cdfi
friendly
with
regard
to
potentially
financing
housing
and
I
know
it
was
well
I,
don't
know
what
I
do
know
what
I
was
created
mainly
to
help
facilitate
Business
Development,
if
I'm,
if
I'm
not
staking
so
I'd
like
to
hear
more
about
that
and
how
we
might
can
invest
there
maybe
seek
partner
investment
in
order
to
facilitate
some
of
our
Housing
Finance
needs
in.
In
that
regard,
do
I
understand
that
IU
has
capped
their
enrollment.
F
Oh
okay,
no,
no
I
just
heard
that
so
I
don't
know,
but
the
point
I'm
making
is
that
I
think
somewhere
along
the
line
we
there
needs
to
be
a
hard
conversation
started
with
Indiana
University
along
the
lines
of
of
student
housing
or
housing,
their
res,
their
their
students.
F
We
obviously
have
student
housing
we've
zoned
for
that
we've
planned
for
that
we've
allowed
for
that
growth,
but
I
still,
it
seems
like
we're
not
getting
any
help
outside
of
the
16
or
17
000
that
they
house
already
and
leave
the
rest
for
us
and
that's
so
I
just
think
there
needs
to
be
some
conversations
there
see
what
we
can
do
you
don't
get
some
stuff.
Unless
you
ask,
and
in
some
cases
you
might
demand,
but
I
know
that's
a
hard
conversation.
F
F
I
want
to
include
all
housing
types
and
I
think
that's
what
we
meant
when
we
said
that
we'll
say:
affordable,
housing
and
that's
part
of
it,
but
there's
other
affordable
or
other
housing
types
that
may
not
necessarily
be
affordable
housing
but
I
like
to
coin
it
as
housing.
That's
affordable,
somewhere
along
the
line,
so
we'll
have
to
get
a
little
bit.
Creative
shared
wall
things
or
whatever
that
there's
some
ownership
built
in.
But
as
I
say
you
know,
insanity
is
keep
doing
the
same
things.
You've
always
done
and
getting
the
same
to
results.
F
So
let's
be
creative
and
think
about
that
and
it's
going
to
take
some
funding.
Lastly,
I'll
say
about
that:
we're
going
to
talk
about
funding
all
night
and
increasing
here
or
there
think
about
the
flip
side.
All
if
there's
going
to
be
some
priorities
will
increase
here.
Then
what
are
you
willing
to
decrease,
possibly
possibly
that
that's
going
to
be
interesting?
Conversation
I
think
so.
Thank
you.
E
M
E
M
Love
it
if
there
was
some
really
bold
initiative
on
housing
that
would
come
through
on
the
budget.
That
would
be
just
this
fantastic,
wonderful
thing
that
would
really
show
how
great
you
know.
We
can
do
this
in
Bloomington
and
I'm
well
aware
of
a
lot
of
difficulties.
I've
talked
to
a
couple
of
Developers
people
in
in
the
last
month
about
market
rate
is
really
tough.
It's
really
tough
to
get
that
happening
with
developers
looking
at.
Can
they
make
money
then
Steve?
M
Actually
last
night
mentioned,
do
we
have
Bankers
that
can
do
that,
and
and
do
they
want
to
do
that,
and
the
answer
that
I
had
heard
from
the
developers
was
well,
it's
really
really
hard
to
make
it
make
money.
So
the
answer
is
it
sometimes
those
numbers
don't
work.
So
the
the
wonderful
thing
I
know
that
when
you
first
came
into
office,
you
were
talking
about
different
housing
things
and
the
the
financiers
of
a
lot
of
the
affordable
housing.
There's
there's
not.
M
Seem
to
it's
not
that
easy
and
I
get
that,
but
I
wonder
if
there's
any
bold
ideas
that
could
come
from
our
through
our
budget.
That
says:
let's
do
this
and
see
if
we
can
spur
more
of
the
financiers
who
do
the
affordable
housing
to
come
to
Bloomington,
to
do
some
more
of
those
projects
here.
The
one
over
by
switchyard
Park
is
still
kind
of
like
it's
was
slowed
down
and
it's
not
hap.
It
hasn't
happened
yet
right.
B
K
Sharpen
what
he
said,
I
was
specifically
concerned
about
developers
saying
that
they
have
trouble
getting
anything
financed,
that
isn't
market
rate
rental,
and
so
is
there
something
that
the
city
can
do
or
the
city,
if
I
can
do
to
help,
make
it
easier
for
financiers
to
say
yes
to
the
development
that
we
all
say
that
we
want
and
that's
what
I
was
saying
last
night
at
that
that
heading
home
event
was
in
particular.
It
sounds
like
we've
all
sort
of
underestimated:
the
the
quiet
role
that
financiers
play
that
that
Bankers
play
I.
K
K
Is
there
some
way
that
we
can,
with
the
power
of
the
city,
help
reduce
the
queasiness
that
Finance
financiers
have
in
financing
the
kind
of
housing
that
we
all
say
we
want,
which
is
everything
but
market
rate
rental,
so
I
mean
like
just
about
General
I'm,
agreeing
with
what
what
Ron
said
again,
that
I
mean
I,
don't
really
to
this
day.
Mr
Mayor,
with
all
due
respect,
I,
don't
quite
understand
the
cdfi
and
what
it
does.
If
it's
focusing
on
business,
that's
fine
but
I'd
love
it
if
it
could
also
focus
on
housing.
Somehow.
A
F
F
What
can
we
do
to
make
some
things
easier?
It's
tough
for
these.
These
housing
or
affordable
housing
credits,
tax
credits
I
mean
that
that's
that
that's
not
easy
to
do
and
having
a
developer.
That's
willing
to
even
try
to
do
that,
but
I
just
don't
want
you
know.
We've
got
a
a
problem.
Obviously,
but
I
don't
want
someone
up.
You
know
downtown
on
the
courthouse
where
it's
saying
it's
all
the
city.
You
know
because
I
think
we're
doing
a
whole
lot
of
things.
We
can
do
better
but
understand
we
can't
do
it
the
city.
I
Thank
you,
Matt
I'm,
not
sure
how
big
of
a
budget
implication
that's
necessary.
We
would
have.
It
probably
depends
on
the
mechanism,
but
finding
a
way
to
overcome
the
market,
barriers
to
modest
home
ownership
opportunities
in
multi-family
housing,
specifically
small
soil,
con,
small-scale
condos.
My
understanding
from
I
forget
what
first
communicated
this
to
me.
I
But
a
large
percentage
of
the
units
have
to
be
sold
before
you
can
get
financing
I
think
in
most
cases,
so
whatever,
whether
it's
a
cdfi,
whether
it's
using
city-owned
land
or
city,
purchased
land
and
using
that
as
The
Leverage,
for
when
you
sell
it
to
a
developer,
perhaps
slightly
below
market
rate,
to
get
that
type
of
housing.
That
seems
to
be
something.
I
The
market
is
just
largely
failing
to
provide
entirely
small
attached
housing
Townhomes
that
sort
of
thing,
possibly
with
new
sort
of
Greenfield
development,
but
very
very
little
infill
in
that
category
and
I
think
that's
a
a
major
missed
opportunity
and
we
need
to
figure
out
what
tweaks
the
city
can
make
to
shift
the
incentives
or
or
use
the
leverage
we
have
to
address
that
need
and,
and
so
again
I'm
not
I.
Think
there
are
a
variety
of
possible
policy
options.
Some
may
have
budget
implications
but
kind
of
been
on
this
topic.
So.
F
H
K
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
say
it
again
for
a
variety
of
reasons:
I
am
working
on
a
resolution
right
now
that
will
allow
us
to
discuss
the
prospect
of
a
downtown
circulator,
an
idea.
That's
been
floating
for
15
years.
I've
done
a
lot
of
the
floating,
but
it's
not
unpopular
it
is.
It
serves
a
lot
of
different
functions,
not
the
least
of
which
is
the
question
of
the
convention
center
I'd
like
to
point
out
again
that
from
the
trades
District
to
the
Kroger
Seminary
Square
to
sample
Gates.
K
Each
of
those
points
of
the
triangle
is
a
20-minute
walk.
That's
how
big
our
downtown
has
become,
and
most
people
look
for
an
alternate
way
to
get
around
after
a
10-minute
walk.
So
if
we
don't
want
people
moving
their
cars
around
to
get
places
that
should
be
in
a
compact
place,
not
the
least
of
whom
would
be
potential
visitors
to
the
community
who
are
coming
to
any
number
of
events
at
this
much
anticipated
Convention
Center
expansion
I
think
that
we
can
establish
the
capital
costs
without
any
help
at
all
from
Creed
money.
K
Four
million
dollars
to
be
exact,
I
haven't
even
looked
into
the
possibility
of
how
we
could
spend
fewer
dollars
on
that
by
leveraging
Federal
Transit
money,
because
they
generally
tend
to
do
what
is
it
80
20
match?
We
would
need
three
buses
to
do
the
minimum
service
of
the
circulator
if
we
could
get
it
to
be
at
that
would
be
with
a
15
to
20
minute
frequency
if
we
could
get
it
to
half
that
if
we
get
it
to
be
10
minutes
or
less
well,
you
know
that
there's
always
a
shuttle
coming.
K
It
would
transform
the
downtown
if
it
connected
every
parking
garage,
every
parking
facility,
every
low-cost
opportunity
to
park
and
discourage
people
from
I
mean
there
is
a
great
deal
of
traffic
generated
downtown
in
the
afternoons
and
evenings
from
people
cruising
for
parking,
even
at
a
dollar
an
hour.
We're
not
charging
enough
and
I
believe
that
the
future
way
to
fund
the
operations
of
that
shuttle
would
be
to
to
adjust
parking
rates.
K
So
for
all
the
different
reasons
that
I
mean
I
know
that
in
talking
about
the
convention
center,
that
IU
is
a
going
to
is
very
much
looking
forward
to
the
development
of
a
Convention
Center,
because
they
don't
really
want
a
space.
They
don't
have
on.
Campus
is
a
space
to
handle
large
conferences.
They
would
like
to
partner
with
the
city
and
bring
in
conferences
that
would
provide
a
boost
to
downtown
I.
K
Think
that
in
that
way,
they
they
know
that
the
city
can
be
an
asset
to
the
things
that
they're
trying
to
do
and
a
shuttle
that
connects
the
sample
Gates
or
the
IMU
hotel.
With
the
courthouse
Square,
the
Kroger,
the
Hopewell
parking
garage,
the
trades
District,
the
trades,
District
parking
garage
and
every
point
in
between
including
City
Hall,
the
Monroe
County
Courthouse.
That's
an
idea
whose
time
has
come
and
it
we
should
be
thinking
about
it.
The
same
way,
we
thought
about
the
trade
District
garage
we
built
in
anticipation
of
future
use.
K
E
K
The
same
thing,
but
it
would
be
used
immediately
already
I
mean
we
would
see
the
uptake
in
it
right
away.
So
I
want
to
push
very
strongly
for
it.
I
believe
that
it
can
be
done
entirely
with
Creed
funds,
but
if
we
can
get
an
80
20
matching
Grant
from
the
FTA,
those
funds
could
conceivably
I
mean
I
I
know
the
money
could
be
there
to
fund
15
to
20
minute
frequency.
I
think
it
would
be.
K
The
real
lift
would
be
getting
to
twice
that
frequency
I,
don't
even
I,
don't
think
that's
doable
right
away,
but
we
should
be
striving
for
it.
So
I
want
to
put
a
pitch
in
for
this
a
free
downtown
trolley
that
will
not
only
provide
all
these
services
but
will
give
Choice
Riders
a
reason
to
choose,
to
use
Transit
and
to
become
advocates
for
public
transit
and
not
just
complain
about
how
it
seems
to
be
for
other
people,
but
not
not
them.
Everyone
will
have
a
reason
to
use
a
free,
downtown
trolley.
O
Weigh
in
on
the
circulator
and
say
another
potential
idea
for
that
could
be
to
increase
the
frequency
of
our
buses
that
already
go
on
downtown
routes,
and
so
what
that
might
look
like
I
know.
It's
I
mean
it
is
different
than
exactly
what
Steve
was
talking
about,
but
our
buses
that
go
down
Kirkwood
and
college
and
walnut
if
we
increase
those
to
something
like
every
10
minutes,
so
they
serve
folks
outside
of
downtown
as
well
like.
What
would
that
look
like
sort
of
like
circulator
time
timing,
but
on
our
own
bus
lines?
O
O
I
would
like
to
think
about
some
things
that
Dave
presented
at
Council
last
week,
so
with
her
the
the
sidewalk
studies
and
with
folks
talking
about
what
could
be
possible
something
she
said
that
came
up
in
all
of
the
sessions
but
got
a
low
rating
because
of
how
expensive
it
is,
is
having
the
city
maintain
some
of
its
sidewalks,
so
fixing
the
cracks
and
the
walkability
and
accessibility
of
those
sidewalks
and
also
keeping
them
plowed
in
the
winter
time.
O
A
E
I
M
M
A
really
really
interesting
idea:
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
how
to
fold
that
in
with
the
Bloomington
Transit
operation
at
all,
but.
M
K
See
I
can
say
a
couple
things
clarify
with
the
circulator
number
one.
It
will
be
run
by
Bloomington
Transit.
The
estimates
that
I
have
are
from
Bloomington
Transit
I
appreciate
the
administration
making
them
available
to
spec
it.
Secondly,
another
idea
behind
the
idea
of
a
circulator
I
mean
we
used
to
have
one.
It
was
number
eight
East,
Side
local.
K
We
have
a
precedent
for
buses
that
go
in
a
loop
instead
of
just
point
to
point,
but
if
you
were
to
put
a
circulator
downtown,
it
would
expand
the
Hub
that,
right
now,
all
the
buses
have
to
meet
at
the
transit
center.
Well,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
the
case.
Some
buses
could
touch,
so
it
could
stop
at
the
trades
District.
K
Knowing
that
somebody
could
get
a
ride
downtown
on
the
shuttle
that
runs
every
15
minutes
or
get
across
town,
it
would
actually
allow
the
other
routes
to
concentrate
if
we
had
them
connect
to
the
circulator
route
instead
of
having
to
always
connect
at
the
main
point.
So
there's
a
lot
of
potential
advantages
to
to
taking
the
idea
of
the
East
Side
local,
which
I'd
always
always
been
indignant
about
like.
Why
is
there
one
over
there,
but
not
one
downtown
and
having
it
downtown?
K
The
only
the
thing
that's
different
here
is
the
source
of
funding
for
it
for
the
establishment
of
the
route,
the
capital
startup
costs
can
come
from
this
fund
that
was
supposed
to
serve
that
was
collected
from
taxes
paid
by
downtown
businesses,
and
it
would
serve
downtown
businesses.
It
would
serve
the
area
where
the
money
was
collected,
so
it
it
just.
It
seems
like
a
very
neat
solution
to
a
lot
of
different
problems,
some
which
we
maybe
didn't
even
think
about
until
the
idea
was
implemented.
A
L
So,
just
in
terms
of
I
I,
like
the
circulator
idea,
I
think
it
should
be
studied
more
closely
and
get
some
more
details
going
but
I,
since
we
are
giving
3.8
million
dollars
to
Transit
this
year
and
hopefully
many
years
into
the
future.
L
Thanks
to
the
Ed
lid,
and
thank
you
to
the
administration
for
for
doing
that,
since
we're
doing
that,
I
think
the
council
should
have
a
more
thorough
report
from
transit
on
how
they're,
using
that
money
like
Ron,
was
saying.
If
that
could
be
separated
out
in
their
budget
proposal
and
say
you
know,
we
use
the
city's
money
for
X,
Y
and
Z,
so
we
can
follow
through
on
our.
You
know
what
we
saw
during
the
idiot
discussion
discussions
as
far
as
an
East-West
express
route,
Sunday
service,
more
frequent
service
things
like
that.
F
There's
been
some
changes
and
with
some
funding
and
my
colleagues
and
adding
buses
getting
more
electric
buses,
these
sorts
of
things
I
like
the
circulator
idea,
I,
don't
know
how
exhaustive
and
all
that
we're
talking,
but
I
think
our
main
biggest
area
of
growth
there
is
across
the
city
is
probably
going
to
be
frequency
frequency
of
surface
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
maybe
I,
don't
know
what
financing
can
do
with
that
or
I
mean
we've
got
a
good
system,
but
a
lot
of
the
folks
I
talk
with
are
not
going
to
wait
that
long
when
that,
when
they
have
a
car
as
a
choice
you
see
in
some
will
some
might,
but
if
we
can
increase
frequency
I
think
that
will
go
a
long
way
from
that
inconveniencing
people,
maybe
getting
higher
usage
out
of
that
I
mean
I,
think
we're
doing
some
good
things.
F
F
So
I
figured
some
of
my
colleagues
would
love
hearing
that,
but
but
but
that'll
work
itself
out,
but
I
think
more
frequency
and
that's
just
downtown
but
I'm
talking
about
the
entire
city
I'm
concerned
about
downtown
but
I'm
concerned
about
the
entire
city
and
how
do
we
get
from
place
to
place
and
and
I
think
we're
doing
good
I
think
we've
made
some
really
good
moves
along
that
line,
so
I'd
like
to
see
that
continued
and
see
what
we
can
do
to
enhance
some
things.
A
L
I
Just
following
up
on
some
of
Kate's
comments
about
accessibility
in
the
transportation
context,
sidewalk
system,
Public
Works
did
some
really
good
work
in
in
my
neighborhood
and
I.
Think
it
was
this
year
this
past
year,
doing
a
lot
of
this
sort
of
Shaving
of
sidewalk,
edges
and
I
forget
what
they
call
that,
because
you
know
when
yeah,
when
you've
got
the
trees,
they.
I
Up,
sidewalk,
and
so
like
that,
you
know,
is
before
probably
a
five
block
by
six
block
stretch
or
something
that
I've
noticed
that
all
kind
of
happened
at
the
same
time
and
you
know
making
sure
that
that
we're
that's
really
great
work
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
funded
adequately
to
to
get
to
what's
needed
there
at
a
reasonable
time
frame
from
the
systems.
The
whole
whole
system's
perspective.
I,
don't
know
some
of
the
analysis
we've
had
of
like
sidewalk
conditions
can
help
with
that.
But
I
think
it's
important.
E
I
Accessibility
related
things:
the
infrastructure
category
that
I
think
we
just
we
just
doubled
a
ways
to
go
so
related
to
that
possible
funding
or
investment,
or
at
least
a
plan
for
Signal
traffic
signal
upgrade
costs
in
particular,
I'm
thinking
about
the
how
pedestrians
interact
with
with
those
so
I
know.
We
have
quite
a
few
signals,
for
instance,
that
don't
have
that
aren't
accessible.
They
don't
have
an
audible
signal
for
folks
who.
I
Impaired
I
think
there's
a
study
happening
now
with
respect
to
some
of
those
signal,
updates
the
possible
investment
or
support
for
addressing
the
the
biggest
gaps
or
problems
in
that.
Similarly,
we've
got
some
really
great
newer
examples
of
using
leading
pedestrian
intervals,
which
can
significantly
increase
safety
for
pedestrians
and
intersections
they're
in
Indiana
is
a
good
example.
I
think
a
lot
of
our
signals
are
probably
capable
of
that,
but
are
not
currently
programmed
to
do
that,
but
it's
also
possible.
There
are
technology
gaps
with
respect
to
the
signal
infrastructure
itself.
I
That's
another
area
of
interest.
The
big
one
for
me
and
I've
been
trying
to
get
a
better
handle
on
this,
and
you
know,
ask
questions
about
this
last
budget
cycle
is:
is
deepening
our
our
understanding
of
the
full
Universe
of
pedestrian
infrastructure
sidewalks,
in
particular,
understanding
where,
where
they
are
now
what
the
condition
is
where
they're
needed,
where
we
expect
they
should
go,
but
they're
not
presently
there
as
well
as
areas
that
we
think
it's
just
really
not
practical
to
add
a
sidewalk
to
their.
I
Not
you
know
not
every
street
necessarily
needs
a
sidewalk
if
it's
a
calm
enough
Street
to
be
safe
for
all
users.
Without
that
and
I
know
we're
talking
about.
You
know
tens
of
millions
of
dollars,
if
not
literal
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
of
investment
to
get
what
we'd
like
to
be,
but
we
haven't
really
gotten
the
full
systems
level
analysis
of
that
problem,
but
I
think
probably
everyone
can
agree
that
sidewalks
are
pretty
chronically
underfunded
and
there's
you
know
bonding
and
capital
expenditures
that
could
go
to
that.
I
In
fact,
already
do,
but
I
think
it's
also
true
that
we
probably
need
annual
funding
going
to
sidewalks.
That
is
quite
a
bit
higher
than
we
have
now.
In
particular,
the
the
council
sidewalk
budget,
that
portion
of
the
sidewalk
committee
allocates
has
been
around
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
give
or
take
for
a
decade
or
more
prices
are
probably
twice
as
high
in
terms
of
installed:
sidewalk
costs
as
they
as
they
were
when
the
funding
for
that
wasn't
much
different
and
I'm,
not
particularly
wed
to
the
council.
I
You
know
controlling
that
fund
or
dictating
its
use
necessarily,
but
I
do
think.
We
need
probably
something
on
the
border
of
two
to
three
million
annually,
going
to
to
sidewalk
repair,
maintenance
and
installation
and
meeting
critical
gaps
related
to
that
possible
minor
funding
impact,
with
request
for
temporary
measures
to
support
protected
bike,
lane
infrastructure,
where
we
have
plans
to
develop
and
fully
Implement
a
you
know,
design
solution
like
the
seven
line
or
like
other
protected
bike
lanes
that
are
in
the
works
now
I
think
respect
to
Second
Street
update
with
Hopewell.
I
For
instance,
it
takes
a
while
to
build
those
all
out,
but
but
at
the
same
time
we
know
that
there
are
tactical
measures
or
temporary
measures
that
can
provide
significant
safety
increases
every
every
time.
I
travel
I'm,
struck
by
what
other
cities
are
doing
on
this
front.
I
was
in
Boston
not
long
ago.
Also
Washington
DC
ubiquitous
in
those
cities
is
temporary
infrastructure
to
you
know
to
hold
us
over
with
with
respect
to
protecting
our
roadway
users,
who
are
more
vulnerable
until
they
can
get
that.
I
You
know
harder
infrastructure
installed
in
a
full
design.
So
I
think
we
need
to
I've
been
talking
to
Andrew
sieber
about
this,
for
probably
the
better
part
of
a
year
about
the
need
to
probably
install
and
Implement
something
like
that.
I
Folks
die
on
our
streets,
including
in
instances
where
protected
temporary
protective
bike.
Lane
infrastructure
probably
would
have
been
productive
in
some
way.
So
you
know
I,
don't
know
I've
gotten
funding
estimates
from
him
yet,
but
we're
actually
meeting
tomorrow
to
talk
about
it.
So
that's
another
area
for
me:
I,
don't
think
that'll
be
as
big
of
a
of
a
funding
need,
but
but
it'll
cost
something.
L
K
See
this
is
pay
us
in
comparison
to
the
those
two,
but
in
the
course
of
thinking
about
sidewalks
I've
been
working
with
Michael
Sherman,
with
Deb
Myerson
on
bringing
to
council
resolution
adopting
accessible
Transportation
Mobility
principles
and
the
idea
behind
it
is
basically
to
involve
people
with
disabilities
and
the
key
decisions
where
infrastructure
gets
constructed.
K
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
a
huge
consideration
for
the
budget,
but
I
do
think
that
if
we
adopt
those
principles
and
if
the
city
collectively
Embraces
more
tightly
the
idea
that
that
we
involve
people
with
especially
Transportation
disabilities,
low
vision,
wheelchair
and
other
people
who
have
difficulty
accessing
the
right-of-way
that
it
might
require
a
little
a
few
extra
staff
hours
in
Michael's
Department
I
mean
as
the
with
the
retirement
Department
McKinney
the
we
reorganized
the
administration's
reorganized
how
human
rights
are
managed,
but
I
already
can
anticipate
that
the
task
of
permitting
approving
and
building
public
infrastructure
is
complicated
enough.
K
That
there's
going
to
be,
there
might
be
an
extra
need
to
to
fund
a
few
hours
to
help
the
people
who
need
to
be
involved
in
the
process
navigate
that
process.
So
maybe
a
quarter
or
half
time
additional
equivalent
of
hours
and
is
it
Community
Family
Resources
for
that
particular
purpose.
Of
course
the
resolution
has
to
come
forward.
I
think
we're
going
to
have
something
ready
as
soon
as
the
middle
end
of
May.
So
maybe
we
can
adopt
it
in
June,
but
it
depends
on
Council.
So.
M
D
E
M
Anything
related
to
budget
initiatives
that
we
could
ask
for
that.
That
might
help
us
figure
out
how
to
alleviate
and
I
know
we're
doing
a
lot
of
things.
You
know
on
a
prolifer
peripheral
sense,
the
traffic
congestion
that
I
hear
about
it
all
the
time.
I,
don't
know.
If
you
all
hear
about
it
all
the
time
I
hear
about
all
the
time
that
you
know
Third
Street
and
you
know,
and
then
and
I
when
I
drive
into
town,
and
we
all
experience
it
so
I
I,
don't
know.
M
If
there's
a
we
need
do
we
need
to
study?
That's
done
that
will
look
at
traffic
flow.
You
know
through
our
city
and
do
the
roads
need
to
be.
The
infrastructure
need
to
be
changed
in
some
directional
sense.
You
know
like
if
people
are
coming
from
Nashville
into
Bloomington
do
is
there
do
we
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
not
get
them
to
go
down
straight,
downtown
or
and
I'm,
not
a
traffic
person?
That's
not
my
expertise.
I!
M
Don't
know
that
much
about
it
but
I
just
wonder,
because,
as
we
keep
growing
it's
and
there's
more,
you
know
Apartments
being
built
and
and
all
it
seems
like
it's
the
that
congestion
it
seems
like.
Maybe
that
would
be
another
thing
that
we
need
to
look
at
like
how
do
we
even
wrap
our
heads
around
it?
M
I,
don't
know
I'm,
not
really
sure.
So
if
there
was
I
guess
an
initiative
that
said
from
the
through
the
budget.
That
said,
we
want
to
fund
a
study
that
tells
us
how
to
and
hire
you
know,
experts
at
it
how
to
alleviate
the
traffic
congestion
that
goes
through
the
main
arteries
of
our
city
or
some
analysis
of
that
I
think
that
would
be
great
because
I
face
it
every
day
and
I
know
I
bet
every
one
of
you
do
too.
A
I
would
just
particularly
Echo
what
we've
heard
tonight
about
sidewalks.
We
desperately
need
more
investments
in
that,
and
maybe
that's
one
area
for
Innovation
that
will
give
us
some
opportunities
that
we
haven't
had
yet
so
I'd
also.
F
When
I
think
of
infrastructure,
I
tend
to
think
of
of
our
water,
our
utilities
and
the
planning
that
we're
having
to
either
upgrade
or
maintain
and
we're
behind
I
think
you
all
know
that
hadn't
been
consistent
over
several
administrations
so
but
I
think
and
I
kind
of
told
director
of
Kelson.
This
too
and
I
don't
think
he
likes
it.
But
I
think
we
kind
of
really
need
to
look
at
certain
things
see
where
we
are
and
because
we're
doing,
there's
a
lot
of
initiatives.
F
That's
starting
to
come
out
of
utilities,
which
are
good
good
initiatives,
but
I,
don't
necessarily
want
that
pressure
to
be
placed
on
our
rate
payers
with
rate
increases,
because
I
think
you
all
know
we're
kind
of
on
a
two-year
autopilot
one
from
water.
Then
one
from
sewer
side-
and
you
know
so
at
some
point
and
I
already
think
it
is
a
problem
for
our
lower
income
members
in
this
city.
F
But
that's
something
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
and
I'm
concerned
about,
and
we
we
talked
about
this
a
couple
years
ago,
how
it
seems
the
rate
increases
are
more
on
autopilot
and
I
know
the
idm's
got
to
approve
some
stuff.
I
know
the
board's
got
to
do
some
stuff.
I
know:
we've
got
to
do
some
stuff,
but
I'm
a
little
bit
somewhat
concerned
with
that
a
little
bit.
Yes,.
D
And
I.
I
Know
we've
got
a
I've
had
some
pretty
in-depth
conversations
with
Vic
at
times
about
the
you
know:
payment
assistance
that
when
folks
do
get
into
trouble
with
that,
but
of
course
it
depends
on
them
kind
of
knowing
about
these
systems
available.
I
think
it's
a
pretty
good
program
as
those
go,
but
while
this
will
be
administratively
more
complex,
the
trend
in
the
utility
industry,
energy
utilities,
especially
in
more
Progressive
States,
is
percentive
income
payment
plans,
if
not
for
everyone,
then
for
below
a
certain
income
threshold.
I
Utility
rates
generally
are
inherently
regressive.
They're
they're
like
a
flat
tax
right,
so
maybe
that's
something
that
we
can
talk
about
and
begin
to
explore
the
city
of
Bloomington
utilities,
again,
probably
administratively
more
complicated
and
I'm
sure
there
are
barriers
and
challenges,
but
it
seems
to
me
like
it's
probably
the
Equitable
thing
to
do
the
direction
we
should
be
having
to
have
a
more
Equitable
rate
structure
because
I
know
that's
been
explored
more
deeply
in
the
past,
but
piggybacking
objectives,
good
ideas
and
observations.
F
First
thing,
trash
and
recycle
them
I
know
Adam
has
brought
us,
did
some
reports
and
some
cost
pressures
and
these
sorts
of
things
but
I'm
not
so
sure
if
I
heard
anything,
that's
definite
yet
on
potential
rate
increases
for
trash
and
in
particularly
recycling
there's
some
structural
things
and
it's
not
really
budget
related.
But
one
of
the
things
is,
let's
say:
I've
got
whatever
that
biggest
container
is
64
gallon
daily
and
it's
like
I,
don't
need
that.
You
know
that's
and
I
want
to
go
to
a
smaller
container.
F
F
Downsize
so
I
think
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
and
I'd
even
I'd
like
to
hear
the
cost
pressures
on
recycling.
The
rationale
for
raising
these
rates
anyway,
I
think
we
got
to
be
real,
careful
with
things
that
you
think
are
incentives,
but
they
tend
to
dig
D
incentivize
in
some
cases,
I
think,
but
something
for
us
to
look
at
at
there.
You
know.
L
Well
again,
on
the
topic
of
Sanitation
I
am
concerned
about
that
there
may
not
be
enough
employees
in
in
public
works
in
the
sanitation
area
and
the
I
know.
There's
been
extra
burdens.
As
the
number
of
unhoused
community
members
increases
in
the
number
of
encampments
increases.
L
There
is
a
public
health
concern
with
accumulation
of
waste
at
those
camps
and
I
know
that
you
know.
Adam
has
sometimes
gone
out
himself
to
address
that
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
consider
the
dealing
with
trash
at
some
of
the
encampments
and
having
sufficient
staff
to
to
do
that,
and
just
I
would
like
an
honest
assessment
of
do.
We
have
sufficient
staff
to
do
the
things
that
already
we
need
to
do
as
far
as
trash
pickup
and
Recycling
and
Outreach
in
regards
to
sanitation.
A
K
I
was
going
to
save
this
for
employees
and
Staffing,
but
I
want
to
piggyback
on
what
I've
just
heard
in
particular
in
not
only
a
sanitation,
I'm
worrisome
and
it's
Staffing,
but
so
is
Fleet.
If
we
have
less
than
half
the
mechanics
that
were
necessary
to
maintain
our
Fleet,
that's
a
public
safety
problem.
If
the
cars
and
the
fire
trucks
that
need
to
be
maintained
can't
be
maintained,
so
we
don't
have
the
staff
to
maintain
them.
K
You
know
that's
an
issue,
it's
just
an
issue.
It's
it's!
Not
the
typical
public
safety
issue
that
you
would.
You
would
think
of
so
yeah
I'm
particularly
concerned
about
public
works
and
whether
or
not
they
have
the
staff
to
do
the
many
many
things
that
we
expect
of
them
and.
A
F
Well,
I
think
Steve's
got
a
good
point,
but
one
one
thing
that
I
will
add
there
a
deal
with
dealerships
from
time
to
time
in
other
people
and
they
have
the
same
issues
with
Staffing
and
actually
ASI
certified
blah
blah
blah.
Then
they
go
up
to
Martinsville
or
whatever.
F
So
that
is
a
concern
I'm,
not
so
sure
I'm
as
concerned
as
you
are
not
not
to
minimize
that.
But
it
is
a
concern.
But
I
just
want
us
to
know.
That's
just
not
a
city
problem,
a
city
of
Bloomington
problem,
so.
H
F
What's
we
solve
or
you
solve
City
problems,
I
think
Toyota
would
love
you
to
solve
theirs
too
or.
D
E
B
M
M
You
know
with
some
fees
and
and
local
income
tax
and
so
I
would
love
us
to
just
try
really
hard
to
limit
any
increases
for
essential
city
services
and
I'm,
not
unrealistic
in
my
mind,
but
I
I
think
it's.
It
I
think
that's
an
important
part
of
what
we
do
and
have
a
fiduciary
responsibility.
Let's
make
sure
that
if
there
is
a
rationale
that
it's
a
pretty
darn
good
rationale
for,
if
we're
gonna,
if
we're
going
to
ask
for
any
increase.
M
Yeah,
so
I
I
would
like
to
look
my
constituents
and
I
and
say
we
weld
the
line
on
city
services
as
hardened
as
long
as
we
could
and
I'm,
not
privy
to
all
the
budgetary
concerns
of
each.
How
you
know
how
city
services.
F
M
That
came
out,
you
know,
then
people
for
a
while
were
all
upset
that
you
know
we
were
going
to
change
that
and
and
I
I
don't
know.
If
there's
pressures
for
fees
to
be
changed
in
you
know,
park
and
rec
is
there.
You
know
some
upward
pressure
on
that,
so
those
kind
of
things
that
have
to
do
with
what
we
do
daily
in
our
lives
and
enjoy
the
city
City's
a
wonderful
place.
M
It's
really
we've
done
so
many
really
great
things,
just
in
a
short
time
that
I've
been
involved
in
way
before
that
we've
really
done
a
great
job
of
it
is
city
has
in
and
collectively
I
think
it's
it's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
many
positive
things.
So
yeah
yeah
I
think
those
smaller
things
like
the
fees
and
let's
try
really
really
hard
to
make
sure
we
hold
it
for
our
constituents.
M
F
Sure
quick
comment:
if
I
may
I
think
Ron's
right
and
that's
why
I
asked
for
clarification.
There.
Timing
has
a
lot
to
do
with
a
lot
of
the
things
and
I
think
it's.
It's
just
I'll
just
say:
piss,
poor
timing
for
us
to
talk
about
these
type
of
inquiries
when
we
just
raised
the
lit
just
last
year,
so
we've
already
raised
that
and
we've
got
an
additional
14
million
or
so
now
we've
got
plans.
F
We've
got
buckets,
we've
got
things
I
understand
that,
but
on
the
heels
of
that
to
raise
my
trash
fee
or
to
you
know,
raise
my
parking
meter
fee
in
all
this
I'm
not
saying
it's
not
needed,
but
I'm.
Just
saying
timing
is
a
big
part
of
it
and
we're
in
city
government.
So
we
kind
of
know
some
stuff,
but
my
neighbors
don't
know.
None
of
this
all
they
know
is
that
I
got
to
pay
more
money,
for
this
I
got
to
pay
more
for
that
and
you're
taking
it
out
of
my
paycheck.
F
So
yeah
I
mean
I
know
it's
not
that
simple,
but
it
is
to
them,
and
those
are
the
folks
that
we
have
to
talk
to
my
water
bill
just
raised
up
too
you
see
and
I
think
sometimes
we
do
these
in
a
vacuum.
Well,
I
just
need
it
for
this
and
I
need
it
for
that
and
Transit
I
need.
We
tend
to
forget
how
that
compounds
on
our
residents.
Sometimes.
So
it's
all
about
priorities
about
using
the
funds.
We've
got
how
we
can
manipulate
some
other
things,
but
I
agree
with
that.
A
K
Well,
I
mean
it's
clear
that
we
as
council
members,
have
a
job
to
do
a
better
job
of
letting
people
know
why
cost
increases
are
going
in
because
you
know
this
expense
or
that,
but
I
would
gently
push
back
and
say:
look
right
now
we're
spending
a
million
dollars
a
year
out
of
the
general
fund
for
sanitation.
Half
the
people
in
Bloomington
don't
get
to
have
their
trash
picked
up
by
the
city
they're
paying
that
Tab
and
they
will
get
any
trash
service.
K
Now
it's
fine
I
mean
I
pay,
taxes
for
schools
and
I,
don't
use
the
schools.
So
we
can
talk
about
that.
But
I
mean
why
shouldn't
the
trash,
the
monthly
trash
fee
go
up
on
those
people
who
do
get
the
benefit
of
the
service
so
that
that
million
dollars
a
year
that
people
in
multi-family
housing
have
to
pay
over
and
above
everything
else,
they're
paying
don't
have
to
pay.
K
It
I
mean,
like
I,
don't
blame
any
constituent
of
yours
for
being
upset
about
something
going
up
yeah,
but
you
know
it's
going
to
be
incumbent
on
us
to
explain
that
if
we
raise
trash
fees
so
that
sanitation
breaks
even
it's
because
it
was
inequitable
in
the
first
place,
I
mean
that's
a
that's
the
argument
that
we
had
a
year
or
two
ago
about
sanitation
fees.
So
I
mean
why?
Why
shouldn't
we
adjust
those
prices
to
eliminate
that
fiscal
inequity.
F
K
For
many
of
the
have-nots
who
are
living
in
rental
housing
as
multi-family
and
the
haves
are
the
ones
who
are
getting
trash
pickup
at
their
single
family
house,
and
these
are
people
who
would
love
to
own
a
single
family
house
and
get
to
have
that
service.
So
I
think
I
am
speaking
for
some
have-nots
here.
You
know
we
could
discuss
it
well,.
M
M
I
A
A
A
L
I
think
we
need
to
keep
up
with
the
cost
of
living
going
up
and
commit
to
increasing
our
employees.
Pay
relative
to
the
Consumer
Price
Index.
A
I
Across
the
city,
I'm
generally
generally
just
concerned
about
retention
and
Recruitment
and
wanting
to
to
make
sure
we're
keeping
up
with
with
our
competitors
whether
it's
the
municipalities,
perspective,
police,
fire,
asked
me
staff,
others,
civil
City
staff
or
other
private
employers,
not
profits.
That
folks
can
go
work
at
so
trying
to
make
sure
that
our
benefits
packages
are
competitive.
We've
of
course,
instituted.
I
You
know.
Family
leave,
for
instance,
think
I
agree
with
with
Isabelle
that
a
policy
to
try
to
better
match
the
actual
adjustments
in
people's
buying
power,
the
Consumer
Price
Index,
would
be
really
really
great.
I
I
know
we
did
a
lot
last
year
with
things
on
top
of
the
cost
of
living
adjustments,
sort
of
one
time
benefits,
but
I
guess
I'd
like
to
explore
more
deeply.
The
idea
of
tying
Consolidated
adjustments
to
Consumer
Price,
Index
and
understanding,
if
that's
done
by
the
municipalities,
where
what
the
what
the
challenges
and
barriers
are
to
that
I'm.
Imagining
the
fact
that
our
revenue
streams
are
sort
of
decoupled
from
those
changes
is
certainly
one
of
them,
but
still
I
mean
the
the
pragmatic
reality
for
for
our
staff.
I
Is
that
you
know
salary
today
doesn't
go
as
far
as
it
did.
You
know,
last
year,
I
support
the
Clark
staff's
request
and
looking
into
significant
adjustments
for
for
their
staff,
as
well
as
the
clerk
yourself
to
better
align
with
similar
grades
and
experience
levels
actually,
I.
Think
the
council
staff
too,
needs
to
be
looked
at
in
that
light.
In
particular,
I
know
our
Council.
E
I
Makes
you
know
sorry
makes
less
than
all
the
other
grade
12s
by
by
a
good
bit,
with
the
possible
exception
of
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
court
was
also
a
grade
12.,
but
looking
at
those
things,
I
think
the
clerks
off
clerks
staff
and
Council
staff
have
always
sort
of
been
dealt
with
and
seen
separately,
but
I'm
not
sure,
that's
quite
fair
or
right
with
respect
to
their
salary
level.
I
So
I
want
to
look
at
both
of
those
things
as
we
as
we
build
staff
budgets
and
what
voice
my
support
to
for
you
know
looking
seriously
at
the
Bloomington
Fire
Department's
Union
contract
and
accelerating
that,
on
the
basis
of
retention
challenges,
we
should
also
have
budget
implications,
though
it's
not
necessarily
directly
tied
to
the
budget's
timeline.
A
Anything
else,
if
not
I'll
jump
in
okay,
nope,
wrong,
ditto
fire,
ditto,
the
clerk's
office
and
I
would
I
also
keep
thinking
about
the
pretty
substantial
transition
that
we're
all
going
to
be
seeing
next
year.
We're
welcoming
a
new
mayor,
we're
welcoming
a
few
new
council
members,
probably
I
I,
do
believe
we
need
the
Dei
training
as
part
of
what
we
do
for
all
of
our
staff
and
I
think
all
of
the
training
that
needs
to
be
incorporated.
A
What
we
do
to
orient
our
new
council
members,
whatever
the
new
mayor
may
need
all
needs
to
be
part
of
that
comprehensive
planning.
So
we
need
a
coordinated
approach
and
a
comprehensive
approach
to
the
kind
of
training
that
we're
going
to
need.
I.
Think
with
those
transitions
comes
I.T
support
too
an
I.T
upgrade.
So
we
may
want
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
well,
but
anything
else
on
employees
and
Staffing
okay,
climate.
F
F
I'm,
not
saying
that's
going
to
take
another
50,
000
bottom
and
I'm,
not
saying
that,
but
I
think
as
part
of
the
training.
Maybe
that's
part
of
it.
I
do
know,
there's
some
things
we
need
to
do.
I
mean
we
need
salary.
We
need
certain
things,
but
I
think
we
need
to
ensure
that
our
work
environment
is
as
good
as
it
possibly
can
be,
and
that
do
what
we
can
make
sure
people
feel
valued
and
worthy
and
happy
to
be
there.
So,
okay
I'll
leave
that
where
it
is
right
now.
O
I
A
I
Think
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress
here
with
additional
staff
and
mechanisms
for
accountability
and
Reporting
constructed
the
plan
and
dedicated
funding
for
programmatics
programmatic
support.
I
would
just
encourage
being
intentional
thinking
very
critically
about
making
sure
we
have
adequate
staff,
even
if
it's
like
special
project
staff
and
ESD,
and
that
sort
of
thing
to
adequately
Leverage
The
unprecedented
level
of
federal
dollars
that
we
can
get
right
now.
I
Some
of
its
formula
funding
a
lot
of
it
is
not
that
most
of
it
is
competitive,
Awards
and
that
of
course
takes
time
to
apply
for,
but
at
Bloomington
because
of
the
groundwork
we've
played
over
the
last
five
plus
years
and
more
is
really
well
suited
to
take
advantage
of
a
lot
of
those
dollars.
So
that's
my.
M
K
Well,
that's
I,
I
think
it's
uncompetent,
all
of
us
to
sort
of
try
to
look
at
the
plan
and
say
well
which
things
need
to
come
first,
and
what
do
we
need
to
do
it
and
do
we
already
have
the
resource
to
do
it
or
do
we
need
more
resources
for
it?
That's
a
tough
one.
I
mean
it's
a
systemic
thing
across
the
board
across
all
these
departments,
so
yeah.
L
All
out
the
anaerobic
digester
study
and
that
this
would
help
us
fulfill
at
least
10
points
in
our
climate
action
plan,
and
it's
probably
worth
the
the
investment
I
mean
we'd
have
to
talk
financing
and
how
to
how
to
perhaps
leverage
some
of
the
the
federal
dollars
that
the
consultant
pointed
to.
But
I
would
like
to
move
ahead
with
that.
F
From
the
USB
board
meeting
yesterday
we
talked
about
all
that
and
there's
cloths
and
certain
things
and
I
think
they
had
a
couple
Consultants
there
and
and
different
levels
and
high
use
mid-use.
You
know
these
sorts
of
things
so
right
right
exactly
and
that's
where
I
got
all
that.
Thank
you
for
that.
But
that's
a
good
discussion
and
again
I
I,
really
don't
want
to
be
a
stickler
and
I
hope.
No
one
sees
it
that
way,
but
and
I
don't
have
my
notes,
but
I
was
kind
of
surprised
at
the
cost.
F
F
I
just
said
that
to
get
you
just
just
a
priority:
yeah,
so
don't
touch
it.
No
but
I
I
totally
agree
with
him
and
from
what
I'm
hearing
it's
a
positive
thing
and
it'll
help
even
more
than
the
10
points,
actually
probably
but
okay
I'm
done.
Thank
you.
A
I
The
clerk
bolden's
comments
are
very
well
taken
that
this
is
non.
This
is
work
that
needs
to
continue
forever.
You
know
and-
and
we
even
continue
learning
continue-
growing
continue
training
as
elect
officials
as
staff,
so
I
think
support
for
that
and
ongoing
fashion
and
thinking
about
what
that
means.
I
What
the
next
steps
are
is
is
important,
as
we
were
active
climate
action
plan
I
almost
mentioned,
but
don't
intend
to
push
for
this,
but
I've
long
held
and
still
hold
the
view
that
a
cabinet
level
position
over
climate-
that's
crossed,
that's
in
the
mayor's
Administration
across
the
front
metal
would
be
ideal,
I
think
the
same
I
think
I
think
was
actually
Don
Griffin
when
he
was
deputy
mayor
who
mentioned
the
possibility
of
a
similar
cabinet
level
role.
I
You
know
over
over
diversity,
Equity
inclusion
and
I
think
that's
a
valid
consideration
as
well.
So
I
wanted
to
mention
it
here
with.
I
Engagement,
that's
that's.
We
have
a
meeting
May
4th
scheduled
for
the
special
committee
on
Council
processes
and
one
of
the
several
larger
issues
we're
taking
into
this
year
is
respect
to
public
engagement
as
well
as
equity
in
our
processes,
legislative
and
otherwise,
and
I
have
a
feeling
that
there
will
be
resourcing
needs
to
address
gaps
and
barriers
there.
The
sort
of
bare
minimum
of
access
is
is
not
equitably
achieved,
and
so
it
takes
intention
to
overcome
that.
You
know.
I
Progressive
cities,
for
instance,
pay
community-based
organizations,
pay
community
members
from
underrepresented
groups
to
engage
in
the
development
of
plants,
and
things
like
that.
We
may
need
additional
assistance
from
a
you
know,
non-profit
or
Coalition,
of
non-profit
organizations
that
are
outside
the
city.
That
would
need
some,
some
Financial
resourcing
to
help
build
connections
and
engagement
in
places
where
it's
you
know
lacking
right
now,
once
you
start
sort
of
default,
public
comment
period
at
City,
Council
meetings
or
whatever
the
other
engagement
channels
are
so
even
child
care
and
things
like
that
long
term.
I
I
know
it's
been
discussed
just
at
a
very
and
translation
services
at
a
very
high
level.
This
gets
very
expensive
very
quickly.
Anything
on
that
front
would
probably
have
to
look
like
a
pilot
program
to
try
it,
and
maybe
you
could
leverage
Grant
dollars,
Federal
opportunities,
things
like
that,
but
I
think
it's
a
big
part
of
building
a
more
Equitable
city
and
addressing
those
systems,
challenges
that
will
probably
need
some
resourcing
I,
don't
know
what
that
looks
like
yet
we're
going
to
dig
into
it.
Some
from
our
perspective
as
a
council,
but.
I
M
The
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
I
think
it
was
just
because
I
took
the
training
on
fishing
through
no
before
is
that
is
that
right
and
when
I
worked
with
the
state
of
Indiana,
we
did
training
always
on
that
kind
of
platform.
I
wonder
why
the
a
Dei,
a
regular
and
ongoing
Dei
could
not
be
folded
into
the
no
before,
and
so
everybody
that
would
have
to
go
through
know
before
employees
of
the
city.
You
know
it
would
just
be.
F
It's
still
a
phrase
from
my
college:
I'm
gonna
pushed
back
a
little
bit
on
that
good
idea,
but
a
whole
big
part
of
Dei,
and
particularly
in
in
equity,
is
learning
backgrounds
and
different
things.
I'm
talking
with
people
sharing
experiences,
lived
experiences
and
pushing
you
know
it's
easy
to
say:
don't
pick
up
a
flash
drive
or
and
and
put
it
in
this.
F
Easy,
but
it's
quite
another
to
talk
about
backgrounds,
how
people
feel
about
Equity
issues
being
how
they're
being
treated-
and
this
is
all
different
groups,
so
I
think
you
got
a
little
something
there,
but
this
is
one
of
the
things
that's
going
to
have
to
have
that
that
human
element
that
face-to-face
communication
element,
one
of
the
best
things
that
came
out
of
this
Dei
training,
I
thought
was
when
people
would
reach
out
and
say:
Jim
can
we
go
have
coffee
or
lunch?
F
Can
we
do
that?
I
thought
that
was
one
of
the
best
things.
I
wasn't
quite
near
enough.
I,
don't
think,
because
there
ain't
enough
of
us
that
you
know
I'll
be
going
to
have
coffee
every
damn
day,
but
but
I
thought
that
was
very
valuable
and
and
made
some.
You
know
and
a
lot
of
my
colleagues
I
went
out
and
talked
with
and
even
though
we
know
each
other,
it
helps
to
get
into
that.
N
A
A
A
Don't
we
do
that?
Why
don't
we
go
to
a
period
of
public
comment
on
this
budget,
Advance
Pro
on
this
budget
advanced
process
or
on
the
budget
itself,
Mr
Lucas,
while
I
look
and
see
who's
interested
here?
Could
you
extend
the
invitation
on
Zoom.
D
D
J
J
It's
not
that
giant
a
chunk.
All
right,
I
wanted
to
Circle
back
to
something
that
council
member
Flaherty
mentioned
at
the
start.
He
talked
about
getting
a
better
understanding
of
the
revenue
streams
that
actually
feed
into
the
funds
and
I
think
there's
actually
one
way
to
approach
the
entire
budget
process
is
not
the
only
way,
and
you
know
there
could
be
a
hybrid
of
approaches.
J
But
if
you,
if
you
really
took
that
approach
for
the
whole
budget
process,
you
might
start
by
saying:
okay,
let's
look
at
every
fund
and
try
to
project
how
much
money
is
going
to
be
flowing
into
the
fund
in
the
next
year
and
figure
out
how
you
want
to
spend
that
specific
money
in
that
fund
and
after
you
get
done,
you
ask
now,
have
we
achieved
all
the
things
that
we
were
hoping
to
achieve
and
have
we
spent
all
the
money
or
have
we
spent
too
much
of
the
money
and
that's
very
different
from
the
way
the
council
has
traditionally
started
the
process,
which
is
to
say
sorry,
here's
what
I
want
to
do
and
I
think
maybe
there's
some
money
over
there
and
maybe
over
there
that
we
could
use
to
pay
for
it.
J
Well,
the
parking
meter
fund
is
pretty
rigorously
regulated
by
state
code
and
that's
the
chunk.
I
want
to
read
aloud
it's
there's
10
ways
you
can
spend
parking
money,
and
these
are
the
only
ways
and
the
way
you
can
tell
that
it's
the
only
ways
is
that
the
word
only
is
right
there.
It
says
disbursements
from
the
special
fund
may
be
made
only
to
pay
and
then
there's
10
things.
This
is
the
chunk.
I
wanted
to
read
a
lot.
How
am
I
doing
on
time?
J
Oh
we'll
we'll
hit
it
easy
one,
the
purchase,
price,
rental
fees
and
cost
of
installation
of
the
parking
meters.
The
cost
is
number.
This
is
number
two:
the
cost
of
Maintenance
operation
and
repair
of
the
parking
meters
number
three
incidental
costs
and
expenses
in
the
operation
of
the
parking
meters,
including
the
cost
of
Clerks
and
bookkeeping
number
four.
The
cost
of
traffic
signal
devices
used
in
the
municipality
I'm
going
to
pause
on
that
one,
because
that
reminded
me
of
something
else
that
council
member
failure
D
mentioned.
So
he
mentioned
wanting
to
upgrade
traffic
signals.
J
Traffic
zooms
are
really
expensive,
but
here's
the
source
of
funding
the
state
legislature
has
said
we
bless
this
exact
use
of
the
parking
meter
fund
to
to
pay
for
traffic
signals
that
are
used
in
municipality
number.
Five,
the
cost
of
repairing
and
maintaining
any
of
the
public
ways,
curbs
and
sidewalks,
where
parking
meters
are
in
use
and
all
the
public
ways
connected
with
them
in
the
municipality.
J
So
if
you
want
to
repair
sidewalks
parking
meter
fund
number
six,
the
cost
of
acquiring
by
lease
or
purchase
suitable
land
for
off-street
parking
facilities
to
be
operated
or
released
by
municipality.
So
if
we
want
to
build
more
parking
garages
great,
this
says
that
we
can
use
the
money
for
that
number.
Seven,
the
principal
interest
on
bonds,
I'm
not
going
to
bore
you
to
death
with
the
final
three
points.
J
None
of
them
include
the
cost
of
operations
for
a
downtown
circulator,
so
I
think
it's
worth
really
at
least
at
some
point,
making
it
the
council's
business
to
look
at
the
funds
to
for
the
council
to
develop
sort
of
some
basic
expertise
in
knowing
okay.
What
can
we
use
these
funds?
For?
What
are
they
designed
for?
Were
they
meant
to
be
used
for
because
it
might
give
you
some
ideas
about
some
other
ways
to
spend
money
that
you
hadn't
thought
of
before?
That's
all
I
got.
H
Thanks
first
I'd
like
to
just
thank
you
for
opening
up
this
session
for
public
commentary.
Tonight
I
think
it's
great
to
have
the
opportunity
to
weigh
in
at
this
early
stage,
I.
H
I
work
with
an
organization
called
heading
home
of
South
Central
Indiana,
and
several
of
you
attended
a
learning
session
that
we
hosted
last
night
related
to
housing
and
security.
So
you
know
that
many
organizations
are
working
hard
to
address
this
very
issue
and
we
are
all
eager
to
work
with
you
and
the
city
Administration
to
find
Solutions.
So
I
guess
I
I,
just
hope
that
you
will
use
us
all
as
a
resource.
As
you
identify
funding
priorities
for
the
next
city
budget.
We
are
willing
Partners
thanks
very
much.
A
Or
anyone
else
on
Zoom?
Okay,
with
that,
let's
come
back
and
Mr
Mayor
I
know
we
lose
you
Creed
Tiff
and
other
funds
Matt.
I
My
gosh,
what
was
it
I
had
it
in
my
notes
and
I
lost
it,
the
monies
that
were
in
the
Thompson
and
the
Thompson
in
downtown
Creeds.
D
I
I
think
there's
general
interest
among
the
council
in
accounting
for
those
separately.
I
know
that
can
be
done
while
it
remains
in
the
general
fund,
but
I
think
the
creation
of
a
different
fund
and
an
inner
fund
transfer
of
the
exact
amount
that
remains
after
last
week's
appropriation
would
be
better
and
more
desirable
from
the
council's
perspective.
So
I
wanted
to
express
interest
in
that
I.
Had
our
Council
attorneys
look
at
it
I
believe
the
council
itself
can
establish
a
fund.
I
K
E
E
K
I
feel
very
strongly
about
the
Creed
money,
as
the
mayor
knows,
but
the
discussion
we
had
about
the
trades,
District
tech
building
I
mean
in
the
course
of
that
discussion.
We
were
told
that
all
Tiff
money
is
the
administration's
eager
to
send
it
to
Hopewell,
which
is
why
they
couldn't
take
any
money
for
that
building.
But
that's
a
city
project,
that's
the
size
of
a
neighborhood,
and
yet
it's
not
a
part
of
our
comprehensive
plan
and
the
Administration
has
insisted
that
it
doesn't
have
to
send
it
to
us.
K
The
same
thing
goes
with
the
501c3:
it's
not
something
that
the
council
I
mean.
We
only
have
indirect
control
and
that
we
can
reject
certain
ordinances.
We
already
have.
We
almost
rejected
the
alley
vacation
ordinance
in
Hopewell,
because
the
administration,
you
know
like
think
under
underestimated,
Our
concern
about
it.
I
mean
I,
am
literally
ready
to
vote
against
the
budget.
K
If
we
don't
have
resolution
on
both
the
convention
center
this
year
and
if
there
isn't
substantive
change
the
law
to
to
make
Hopewell
regulated
like
any
other
neighborhood
of
the
city,
it
should
be
an
overlay
not
entirely
I
mean
it's
right.
Now
it's
a
development
plan
of
the
administration
which
claims
that
they're,
not
developers
but
they're
keeping
it
you
know,
I
mean
they're.
Is
it
a
PUD
I
don't
know
all
I
know
is
that
the
council
doesn't
have
direct
oversight
over
it
and
that's
it's
time
that
it
changed
so
I'm.
K
K
I
E
L
For
other
funds,
I
mean
I
will
agree
with
Steve
that
the
Tiff
funds,
that's
a
huge
amount
of
money,
and
we
only
get
consulted
when
there's
some
expenditure
over
5
million
and
I
know
legally.
That's
the
only
time
that
we
have
to
be
consulted,
but
I
feel
like
as
a
co-equal
branch
of
government
right.
We
should
be
brought
into
these
decisions
and
the
planning
for
use
of
the
Tiff
funds
more
than
we
are.
F
I
Under
the
other
funds,
category
I'll
Echo
support
for
what
Mr
Askew
said
in
respected,
better
Clarity
and
across
the
board,
from
of
Revenue
sources,
funds
that
go
to
Legal
limits
of
their
use
and
to
help
tell
a
better
picture.
I
I've
dug
into
this
a
lot
myself
and
looked
at
the
statutory
limits.
I
I
haven't
compiled
it
for
every
fund.
We
have,
and
you
know
the
complicated
thing
is
money
is,
is
fungible,
so
you
know
there
are
lots
of
uses
that
are
under
the
parking
meter
fund,
for
instance,
maintaining
Parks
other
things
that
could
displace
money
to
operate
a
circulate,
circulator
shuttle,
for
instance.
So
it's.
E
I
Easy
as
saying
oh,
this
fund
says
it
can't
be
used
for
that,
so
we.
I
The
the
expertise
of
the
a
controller's
office
to
be
able
to
help
work,
the
that
puzzle
of
of
limited
uses
of
some
things
in
line
with
our
goals
and
yeah.
You
know
I
think
steps
can
be
taken
both
individually
in
terms
of
due
diligence
in
our
own
research,
but
also
aided
by
the
expertise
and
direct
knowledge
of
of
controller
and
City
staff
to
facilitate
that,
so
that
we're
all
on
a
clearer
have.
E
E
F
Flat
out
say,
if
at
all
possible,
I
would
like
to
see
Jack
Hopkins
at
least
double
at
least
doubled
I've
heard
some
other
stuff
about
a
million
I
mean
that
that's
wish
list,
and
that
would
cover
some
things,
but
I
think
from
a
budgeting
standpoint.
Double.
F
Know
that's
right
seriously.
I
think
we've
talked
about
that
night.
This
is
tough,
I
mean
those
are.
This
is
tough
and
I
think
that
there,
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
the
city
can
do
with
our
non-profits
and
social
service
agencies,
and
we
can
increase
it
more.
We
can't
do
everything,
but
those
are
some
more
direct
things
that
we
could
do
that
affect
our
constituents,
so
I
like
to
see
that
increase
substantially
I.
A
Would
Echo
the
emphasis
on
Jack
Hopkins,
the
emphasis
on
heading
home
I
think
they
are
doing
critical
work
all
of
them
in
this
in
this
community
and
deserve
our
support.
One
of
the
things
under
the
other
heading
the
next
few
months.
The
next
few
weeks,
even
perhaps,
are
likely
to
bring
some
additional
Clarity
around
the
convention
center
and
what
kind
of
mechanism
is
going
to
be
taking
that
forward.
A
Food
and
beverage
money
is
obviously
going
to
play
the
major
part
in
that,
but
there
may
be
a
need
for
master
planning
around
the
downtown
in
the
area
of
the
convention
center
or
something
like
that
and
I
would
encourage
the
city
to
keep
in
mind
efforts
related
to
the
convention
center
that
are
not
payable
by
food
and
beverage.
I
I
Just
note
that
Jim's
points
are
well
taken
about,
you
know,
priorities
and
and
can't
do
everything,
and
we
talk
about
a
lot
of
things
we
want
to
do,
but
we'll
have
to
scale
back
other
things.
I
Though,
for
the
moment,
we
do
still
have
additional
federal
assistance
through
our
funds,
other
opportunities
to
leverage
Federal
opportunities
which
can
help
you.
I
A
I
always
find
it
helpful
whenever
the
budget
presentations
include
information
about
when
we've
leveraged
outside
funds,
so
to
the
extent
that
that
can
be
incorporated
in
budget.
If
you
spend
this
you've
leveraged
x,
amount
in
outside
in
federal
money
or
in
state
money
or
in
whatever
I
always
find
that
helpful.
A
D
A
That
meeting-
let's
talk
about
that,
so
what
how
do
we
want
to
use
that
particular
meeting?
What
numbers
will
we
have
if
any
by
that
point.
K
N
C
N
We
start
talking
about
the
memos
themselves,
so
the
program
budgets
are
essential
for
sale
during
really
in
May,
they'll
start
working
on
budgets
and
Personnel
allocations
in
June.
The
mayor
will
meet
with
them
to
review
those
programs
and
those
are
basically
any
changes
to
those
either
or
modifications
and
then,
as
we
move
into
trying
to
start
to
get
numbers,
we.
N
In
Late
July
and
then
once
we
get
the
final
piece,
which
is
the
limit
which
is
August
the
first,
then
we
spend
the
next
few
weeks
finalizing
requests
and
whether
we
need
and
there's
things
that
we
didn't
think
we
could
do
that.
We
now
can,
do
we
add
those
in
if
they're
not
sufficient,
then
those
must
have
to
get
back
in
some
fashion
in
order
to
provide
you
all
with
default
program
budget
prior
to
the
budget
hearings
in
late
August
7th,
the
number
crunching
really
begins
in
July
and
later
July
and
early
August.
A
K
Seems
to
me
like
we
have
to
be
able
to
determine
to
make
that
of
any
value.
We
have
to
be
able
to
say.
Can
we
say
to
the
nearest
million
how
big
each
budget
is
going
to
be?
Can
we
you
know
like?
Can
we
have
any
certitude
that
certain
programs
that
we
talked
about
are
definitely
going
to
be
funded
and
certain
ones
definitely
aren't
going
to
be
funded?
K
You
know
like
Because.
By
the
time
we
get
the
departmental
budgets
there
all
but
set
in
stone
like
they.
No
department
head
is
particularly
willing
to
open
up
the
all
the
hard
work.
They've
done
to
you
know,
put
their
puzzle
together,
but
if
they
haven't
prioritized
some
of
the
broad
concerns
that
we
have,
you
know.
When
do
we
ever
get
to
see
those
concerns
unless
the
department
heads
graciously
included
are.
N
E
N
O
Least
we
could
that
those
aren't
like
finalized
budget
numbers
right,
but
I
think
some
of
that
could
probably
come
out
by
then
okay
I
think
we
could
also
decide
potentially
not
tonight.
If
we
want
to
move
it.
I
don't
know
like
if-
or
maybe
we
add
another
one
and
then
cancel
one.
If
we
want.
M
N
F
F
It's
our
state
funding
and
some
elections.
F
Well,
I
mean
that's
why
we're
talking
now
so
when
we
get
them
around
the
first
of
August,
all
this
other
things
that
we're
talking
about
with
department
heads,
that's
probably
most
fruitful,
which
I
hate
to
say
this
during
budget
hearings.
I
Like
the
June
meeting
service,
like
like
you
and
mayor
Hamilton
and
controller,
would
just
listen
tonight,
you
can
sit
with
it
digest
some
things.
We
put
out
a
lot
of
diverse
interests,
a
lot
of
alignment,
but
also
you
know
unique
perspectives
from
everybody
like
would
it
be
helpful
to
Workshop
what
you
all
are
thinking
about?
Some
of
those
things
in
June
to
have
like
more
of
a
deliberative
back
and
forth.
A
E
I
C
K
Perhaps
we
can
treat
tonight
as
sort
of
an
advanced
budget
questions
where
we
had
written
questions
out
and
then
they
responded
to
them
in
detail.
There
were
some
things
tonight
that
we
asked
about
that.
Maybe
we
didn't
anticipate
this,
but
that
could
use
specific
answers
before
the
next
or
into
at
by
the
time
of
the
next
budget
advance
so
that
we
don't
have
to
go
there
and
say
well,
I'll
have
to
get
back
to
you.