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A
Okay,
we'll
call
this
meeting
to
order.
This
is
a
meeting
of
the
administration
committee
for.
A
A
A
Sorry,
it's
section
seven
rather
which
deleted
fiscal
impact
statements
in
their
entirety.
A
Me
to
discuss
it,
I
can,
or
we
can
go
directly
into
questions.
I
don't
okay,
mr
flaherty.
B
To
have
a
have
a
presentation,
I
think
we
were
trying
to
wrap
up
some
discussion
items
last.
B
B
One
one
new
amendment
I
believe
right
would
we
like
to
hear
the
amendment
first,
the
new
amendment.
A
To
introduce
it
yes,
thank
you.
This
would
be
amendment
2
to
ordinance
2103
related
in.
C
C
Extent
in
section
five,
this
would
actually
remove
the
language
motions
for
referral
to
a.
C
Mr
ruthie,
since
the
adoption
of
standing
committees
in
february,
2020
legislation
has.
C
Member
roland,
you
mentioned
that
part
of
the
reason
for
for
requiring
referral
to
a
committee.
C
They
they
don't
need
that
extra
help.
So
to
speak,
we
can
streamline
the
meeting.
We
can
streamline.
C
And
eliminate
the
need
for
additional
motions
if
we
simply
allow
the
president.
B
You
councilmember
scamilary
for
the
presentation.
I
think
we
had
a
meeting
earlier
this
year.
B
Simply
offering
the
opportunity
to
make
a
motion
was
sufficient.
We
certainly
don't
need.
B
To
hold
a
vote
on
a
committee
referral
standing
committee,
referral
first,
which
is
what
we.
B
Had
done
the
other
evening,
so,
for
instance,
the
council
president
could
just
if
no
initial.
B
Referral
or
preliminary
referral
had
been
made
by
the
council
president,
he
or
she
could
say.
B
B
Refer
to
committee,
the
whole
does
that
affect
your
thinking
at
all
council
over
scandaloury.
B
And,
and
did
that
slightly
awkward
meeting
affect
your
wanting
to
bring
this
this
amendment.
C
C
C
And
to
eliminate
the
need
for
multiple
motions,
so
does
that
speak
to
your
question?
I
guess.
B
Mentioned
administrative
efficiency
essentially-
and
I
guess
to
me
the
president
saying.
B
And
waiting
and
waiting
a
bit
to
hear
if
such
a
motion
is
made
is
an
extra
15
seconds
of
the.
B
Meeting
you
know
so
I
don't
think
of
that
alone
as
being
administratively
burdensome,
whereas
if
we.
B
Had
to
go
through
a
vote
each
time,
for
instance,
it
might
be
more,
so
I
don't
think
it's
a.
C
So
since
you
you're
the
maker
of
the
amendment
I'll
take
a
a
stab
here,.
A
They
were
introduced,
it
hasn't
been
a
year.
Yet
this
is
the
complaint
that
I
had
in
december.
A
The
mayor
signed
the
legislation
on
march
the
first,
so
we
didn't
really
use
until
march.
The
6th.
A
Though
you're
the
lead
sponsor
as
their
efforts
to
do
away
with
standing
committees,
all
together,.
C
I
guess
I
put
very
simply
that's
not
what
this
ordinance
does.
It
doesn't
eliminate.
C
Standing
committee
no,
but
it
does
favor,
I
mean
there
are
vastly
different
opinions
on.
C
C
Count,
I
mean
committees
that
committees
will
earn
their
own
way
too.
They
will.
C
A
Well,
I
mean,
as
president
last
year,
in
order
to
give
them
a
fair
shake
from
members
who
were.
A
Vociferously
opposed
to
them,
you
know,
like
I
had
reason
to
find
this.
I
mean
this
language.
A
There's
another:
you
know
like
that:
that's
not
why
this
language
was
included.
A
It's
not
language
that
I
added
it
was
already
there.
So
you
know
the
fact
that
I.
A
Committees,
but
without
this
language
it
seems
that
the
president
would
be
free
to
simply.
A
C
C
A
committee
night-
I
I
guess
I
I'm
I'm
not
sure
why
we
couldn't
do
what
we
did
last
year.
C
A
That
he
shall
send
everything
to
standing
committee
or
to
the
committee
of
the
whole.
C
Opportunity
to
vote
would
the
opportunity
for
a
council
member
to
move
that
it
instead
be
sent.
A
A
C
All
right
they've
done
that,
and
I
appreciate
that
that
language
might
have.
A
A
Use
the
raised
hand
function
in
zoom
or
type
into
the
zoom
chat.
Mr
lucas,
are
there
any
takers.
A
Mr
flaherty
sure
I'm
ready
for
final
comment.
If
there
are
no
more
questions,
please
go
ahead.
B
Sure
thanks
appreciate
the
amendment,
the
presentation
I'm
pretty
ambivalent.
I
I
don't.
B
Think
this
materially
changes
much.
It
is
true
whether
or
not
this
section
of
code
remains.
B
If
and
when
the
the
president
makes
a
preliminary
referral
to
any
committee,
that
said,
I
think.
B
That
I
think
it
can,
I
think
it
confuses
members
of
the
public,
a
lot
bpf
people
show
up
to
meetings.
B
You
know
mayor
hamilton
or
someone
will
show
up
expecting
to
have
a
presentation
for
for
city.
B
Staff
and
a
committee
the
whole
meeting,
because
it's
just
all
nine
of
us
it
it's.
I
know
until.
B
B
As
all
nine
members,
you
know,
councilmemberallo
and
sandberg,
for
instance,
have
spoken
of.
B
Go
first
reading
the
second
reading
and
if
something
comes
up
that
is
controversial
and.
B
Practice
of
committee
of
the
whole
and
it's
not
an
aversion,
it's
not
it's,
not
a
a
slavish.
You
know.
B
B
Out
of
that
practice,
personally,
that
said
again,
I'm
fairly
ambivalent.
I
don't
think
this.
B
B
A
Because
everyone
can
be
rebutted
so
I'm
happy
to
to
take
the
initiative
if
you
like
or
okay.
A
The
same
time
you
know
this
code,
that's
the
subject
of
this
amendment,
that's
being
stricken.
A
A
Is
legitimate
as
well,
so
you
know,
like
I
respect
their
legitimate
opinion,
but
they
have.
A
A
We're
in
11
months,
but
we
had
the
same
problem
in
december-
miss
the
the
current
president.
A
Was
eager
to
address
the
question
of
standing
committees
in
december
with
an
eye
to
to
make
a.
A
A
A
Only
to
be
insincere
in
their
desire,
they,
they
a
year,
means
something
totally
subjective
to
them.
A
A
By
their
participation
in
this
amendment,
customers
gamblers,
on
the
other
hand,
does
do
her.
A
Thinking
in
her
homework
to
that
end,
I
would
suggest
that
again.
I
think
that
this
would.
A
On
the
emotional
scale
simply
put,
it
does
give
standing
committees
which
have
some
very.
A
A
If
the
legends,
if
the
my
colleagues
have
brought
this
as
a
separate
ordinance
in
march.
A
I
would
have
had
less
objection
to
it,
but
it
simply
underscores
the
the
adamant,
but.
A
Whole-
and
you
know
I
mean
that's-
why
I'm
very
disappointed
to
see
the
support
from.
A
But
customer
flaherty
is
correct.
That
committee
the
whole
was
meant
to
be
an
extraordinary.
A
A
A
That
their
their
devotion
to
committee
of
the
whole
is.
A
Insufficiently
thought
out,
like
they've,
never
really
thought
about
it,
and
so
far
in.
A
This
I
would
suggest
that
the
the
what's
the
word,
not
the
preference,
but
the
predominant.
A
A
That
I'm
afraid
that
it
won't
save
time
in
in
council.
So
for
that.
A
C
C
C
Deal
of
thought
in
research
in
this
project-
and
I
understand
that
it
doesn't
seem
to
me
to
be.
C
To
travel,
so
I
will
just
acknowledge
those
comments
of
yours
and
leave
them
to
the
side.
C
For
now,
councilmember
flaherty
I'm
struck
by
what
you
said
about
confusing
the
public
when.
C
C
To
actually
get
the
nuance
of
the
difference
between
that,
I
acknowledge
that
is
confusing.
C
C
C
Our
names,
I
think,
that's
a
point
of
confusion
too.
You
know
what
is
the
exact
role
of
the.
C
C
C
To
the
public
than
committees
have
been
so
again,
we
may
just
differ
on
that,
but
but
I
would.
C
Just
offer
that
thought
what
I
keep
coming
back
to
personally
and
I'm
speaking
for
myself
and
not.
C
C
I'm
not
sure
what
could
happen
in
the
next
four
weeks.
That
would
that
would
make
such
a
difference.
C
Legislation
before
and
they've
been
used
for
subjects
that
were
not
the
topic
of
legislation.
C
C
C
C
That
they're
not
the
helpful
tool.
We
think
they
are
so
this
simply
again,
this
amendment
simply.
C
C
C
Did
last
year-
and
I
think
climate
did
last
year
and
it
always
always
allows
council.
C
Particular
committee
that
hasn't
changed
at
all,
so
those
are
my
thoughts
that
I
would
share.
A
No
seeing
no
second
comments,
I
guess
our
business
here
is
done,
we'll.
C
Second,
all
right:
council,
member
flaherty,
no
customer,
scam,
blurry
yeah
and
I
vote
no.
So.
A
Of
the
council
and
the
clerk's
office,
if
they
have
any
opinions
on
this
matter,
to
to
offer
them.
A
But
the
mr
lucas,
do
you
have
something
to
offer?
No,
just
I
wanted
to.
D
Pop
up
in
case
there
were
questions,
specific
questions
for
us,
but
also
happy
to
answer
any.
C
C
C
D
Typically,
what
we
would
do,
though,
is
forward
both
both
amendments
to
the
council,
with
the.
A
The
question
of
fiscal
impact
statements-
and
I
remember
one
of
the
questions
I
had-
was
that.
A
I'm
actually
struggling
to
remember
now
the
the
the
substance
of
the
debate
we
had
over
it.
So.
A
I'm
not
really
sure,
like
I
mean
I'm
not
sure,
there's
anybody
here
to
argue
for
or
I
mean.
A
B
Yeah,
actually,
I
believe
we
already
voted
on
the
amendment
regarding
fiscal
impact
statements.
B
B
A
A
customer
scam
blurry,
that's
it,
we
were
actually
we
had
met
at
5
30
and
we
were
bumping.
C
Allow
for
that
and
we
passed
one
amendment
hadn't
just
got
the
second
one-
that
we
did.
A
A
A
Eliminating
them
completely,
I
will
say
that
that
particular
section
was
almost
an
afterthought.
A
Two
months
later,
so
you
know
I'm
of
course,
reserving
my
right
to
to
bring
that
forward,
but.
A
It's
not
so
serious
that
I
want
to
delay
the
proceedings
here.
Does
the
what.
A
Is
the
opinion
of
the
committee
as
to
whether
or
not
to
to
hold
another
meeting
on
this
topic?.
A
Councilmember
flaherty,
no,
I'm
not
inclined
to
do
so.
B
They
feel
the
same
way.
Actually,
I'm
kind
of
attached.
A
All
right,
mr
flaherty,
sorry,
that's
okay!
I
just
I
think
if
we
would
have
had
five
to
ten
more
well.
B
And
ready
at
our
last
committee
meeting
and
if
so,
okay
yeah,
I
anyway
dated
today
so
okay.
B
That's
right,
that's
right,
so
I
think
we
were
10
minutes
away,
probably
from
a
referral
back
to.
B
Recommendation
for
an
amendment
and
I'm
sure
we'll
discuss
it
at
second
reading
as
well,
so.
B
Well,
I
think
we
have
to
at
least
dispose
of
this
by
having
final
comment
and
a
vote
on
a.
A
Recommendation-
and
I
would
say
probably
public
comment
as
well
on
the
that's
right.
So
if
there.
A
C
Council
member
clarity's
viewpoint
on
the
opportunity
to
send
this
back
to
council.
Thank
you.
B
By
council
staff
and
and
councilmember
roland
in
the
months
leading
up
to
its
introduction.
B
I
think
the
discussions
have
been
interesting
and
and
productive.
It's
it's
the
kind
of
thing
we.
B
I
don't
think
we,
the
council,
has
been
in
the
habit
of
doing
over
the
last
number
of
years
and.
B
B
Thinking
about,
are
they
serving
us?
Well
are
there
gaps
is,
is
you
know
a
need
not
being.
B
Give
you
know
kind
of
annual
consideration
like
a
title
to
look
just
like
we
do
with.
B
A
unified
development
ordinance
sat
on
the
shelf
for
15
or
20
years.
I
think
these
are
all.
B
B
The
work
and
look
forward
to
passing
some
of
the
updates
that
we've
been
able
to
outline
in.
B
A
Okay,
I
will
say
simply
that
this
has
been
a
lot
of
work
more
work
than
it
should
have
been.
A
For
an
ordinance
that
was
largely
clean
up,
I
do
think
that
the
amendment
to.
A
My
opinion,
I
still
disagree
with
the
continued
existence
of
a
fiscal
impact
statement
in
the
old.
A
Form
that
it
was
the
change
that
is
recommended
by
councilmembers,
piedmont,
smith
and
scandaluri.
A
And
so
that's
why
I'm
thinking
about
possibly
introducing
an
amendment
that
would
go
the
other.
A
Way
because
I
had
said
consistently
about
it
that
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
idea.
A
In
principle,
I
was
opposed
to
its
implementation
and
simply
making
it
vaguer
and
easier
to.
A
To
throw
in,
I
don't
think,
serves
the
public,
so
you
know
if,
if
we're
not
going
to.
A
A
Are
or
were
supposed
to
be
uncontroversial
and
I
don't
think
it's
it's
inappropriate
to
say.
A
About
how
council
runs
about
the
state
of
our
code,
I
think
that
they're
simply
reacting.
A
A
Wants
to
make
the
title
to
there
is
a
lot
of
cleanup
to
be
done.
Mayor
hamilton
said
in
2017.
A
A
A
Even
I'm
discovering
things
that
I
didn't
know
existed
and
I
thought
I'd
seen
it.
A
All
in
many
years
on
council,
so
you
know
it's
incumbent
upon
all
of
us
to
become
more
familiar.
A
With
the
rules
that
we
use
to
do
business,
I
think
that
if
more
of
us
were
familiar
with.
A
More
of
them,
we
would
be
having
fewer
debates
and
we'd
be
making
more
changes.
With
my
new
votes.
A
With
that,
I
will
entertain
a
motion,
a
move.
Do
you
pass
on
the
ordinance.
B
Sorry,
2103
ordinance,
2103.,
thank
you.
I
didn't
have
it
build
up,
need
a
second
you're,
muted.
A
B
A
For
future
rules,
I
will
now
call
the
road
councilman
scandaluri,
no
councilmember
flaherty.
A
Yes
and
I
vote
yes,
so
the
recommendation
of
the
committee
is
two
to
one.
It
goes
back
to
the.
A
Done
thank
everyone
for
coming
and
we'll
see
you
next
week.
This
meeting
is
adjourned.