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From YouTube: Bloomington City Council, November 4, 2020
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meeting agenda: https://bloomington.in.gov/onboard/meetingFiles/download?meetingFile_id=7826
A
For
wednesday,
the
4th
of
november
2020
will
the
clerk
please
call
the
roll.
A
A
A
A
A
A
Eight
and
15.37.050
fees
to
add
provision
a
provision
about
the
timing
of
permit
sales.
A
A
C
I'd
like
to
second,
but
do
we,
I
left
out
one
set
of
minutes
that
I
think
might
need.
B
A
quick
question,
madam
clerk:
I
don't
think
that
the
minutes
from
december
18th
have
been.
B
A
That
they
were
amended,
they
were
not
okay.
Is
it
just
the
clarification
of
her
motion.
B
I'm
just
asking
if
yes
allow
me
to
amend
my
motion,
please,
mr
president,.
B
Yes,
if
you
can
give
me
just
one
second,
to
make
sure
I've
got
this
down.
A
A
All
right
go
ahead,
please
I
have
a
motion
regarding
the
proposed
minutes
of
december
11.
E
E
A
I'm
now
I'm
confused
because
there's
basically
it's
almost
a
replacement
motion.
So
are
you.
A
B
A
Sandberg
is
the
case.
This
just
merely
puts
it
on
the
public
record
in
today's
meeting
that
those.
A
E
To
be
amended
to
attach,
I
see,
may
want
to
defer
to
to
council
member
rallo,
who
was
president
at.
E
F
It
will
be
explicit,
explicit
council
action
is
what
the
amendment
is.
F
Councilmember
sandberg,
okay,
amendment.
Thank
you,
mr
rallo
councilmember
flaherty.
G
G
If
I
understood
correctly
from
clerk
bolden
the
minutes
we
vote
on,
including
four
sets
tonight.
G
G
G
B
B
Okay,
council,
member
sims,
yes
mullen;
yes,
piedmont:
smith,
yes,
flaherty
zayn!
I'm
sorry.
A
I
believe
that's
a
702
approval
of
the
minutes
of
december
11
2019.
A
All
right
with
that,
we
conclude
our
approval
of
minutes.
We
go
now
to
reports
from
council
members.
H
I
E
A
Thanks,
thank
you
I'll
just
want
to
piggyback
on
councilman
sandberg's
comment
and
specifically.
A
Call
out
peter
and
mary
beth
kasmerick
and
lee
lawmaster
for
helping
coordinate
the.
A
Remarkable
event
that
took
place
and
brought
a
lot
of
people
out
and
and
put
another
marker.
A
A
Who's
here
to
present
on
that,
but
we
are
ready
for
that
report-
is
that
is
cooper
smith,
yes,
hello,.
J
Hello:
everyone
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen.
If
that's.
J
Everything
ready,
but
it's
just
this-
is
where
I
get
out
my
stock
batch
of
dad
jokes.
J
Oh,
I
thought
everyone
gets
their
phones
out
and
checks
to
see
what's
happening
with
arizona.
A
J
And
update
you
about
the
rapid
response
loan
fund,
which
the
city
launched
in
partnership.
J
J
47
extends
again
our
public
official
public
health
emergency
to
december
1st,
if
you
remember,
I.
J
Here
we
are
december,
1st
is
the
new
deadline
and
I
suspect
it
will
also
again
roll
forward.
J
This
is
of
so
along
with
the
deadline.
It
allows
our
ability
to
continue
operating
the
loan
program.
J
Each
pot
of
money
has
its
own
set
of
restrictions.
The
food
and
beverage
funds
are
lendable
only.
J
J
On
the
west
and
it's
definitely
atoms
and
then
a
little
bit
farther
west
in
certain
spots.
So.
J
This
is
to
say
that
borrowers
are
restricted
to
you
know
either
doing
business
that
supports.
J
It's
the
long
bar
that
says
pending
submission.
This
is
high
at
144
applications
or
64.
J
J
Additional
info
requested
or
under
review
because
we
do
not
have
any
live
applications
right
now,.
J
J
J
You
know,
even
though
the
the
data
is
confidential.
These
are
all
community.
J
J
J
And
anticipated
that
it
would
be
a
bridge
fund,
some
applicants
did
not
want
to
pay
any
interest.
J
We
this
loan
fund
has
a
two
percent
interest
rate
and
others
believe
the
city
should
have
been.
J
Feedback
along
those
lines,
we
have
funded
two
new
loans
in
the
last
month
and
we
have
processed.
J
J
Their
amounts,
we
also
have
feedback
that
we'll
have
two
more
borrowers
at
the
end
of
this
month.
J
J
So
you
can
also
see
the
average
loan
amount
hovers
around
28
thousand
dollars.
J
The
council
and
city
staff
are
focused
on
borrower.
Demographics
to
you
know
both.
J
Support
equity
and
monitor
our
distribution
of
these
funds
of
the
62
organizations,
62
loans.
J
Organizations
who
received
them
were
six
of
them
or
9.7
percent
were
black
owned
businesses.
J
Folks,
who
marked
other
because
they
were
not
represented
by
listed
options.
J
Or
74.2
percent
were
white
owned
businesses,
so
we
we
improved
slightly
upon
our
like
what
census.
J
J
J
Businesses,
two
borrowers
prefer
not
to
say
one
answer
answered
both.
J
I
said
that
already
two
bars
prefer
not
to
say,
and
then
I
didn't
make
a
separate
chart
for.
J
J
The
demographics
are
reported
so
so
I
think
were
we
to
do
it
again.
It
would
be
improved.
J
J
J
J
New
potential
new
shutdowns
entertainment
venues
report
a
unique
challenge,
given
that
their.
J
So
the
risk
is
that
they're
laying
down
a
percentage
for
acts
that
are
not
you.
J
With
outdoor
dining,
but
obviously
that
will
become
more
challenging
as
the
weather
advances.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
As
with
winter
coming
up,
we
are
expecting
another
shutdown.
That
said,
we
remain
optimistic
and
are.
J
J
J
J
Of
b-town
diner
she
sent
a
long
email
which
I'll
be
happy
to
forward
describing
the
process
of.
J
She
describes
frantically
checking
for
the
sba
loan
application
to
go,
live
to
apply
for
b-town.
J
J
J
Application
I
was
concerned
about
a
particular
question
on
the
application
it
questioned
along.
J
J
J
J
Released
inmates
in
gaining
independence,
I
hire
recovering
people
who
need
work,
sit
on
the
parent.
J
J
J
The
article
about
it,
I
moved
quickly
to
get
ours
and-
and
she
says
nice
things
about
me-
helping.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
Business
owners
about
it
when
meeting
with
the
chamber
of
commerce
last
week,
we
let
them
know.
J
Get
the
funds
out
there
and
are
considering
it
active
and
the
buea
also
has
105
000.
I
think.
J
And
I
just
think
we
should
get
it
out
the
door.
We
have
two
applications.
C
E
E
City
of
bloomington,
with
respect
to
federal
funding,
any
any
updates
on
that.
I
know
the.
E
To
the
people's
business
very
soon
yeah,
well,
we
were
kind
of
waiting
with
baited
breath.
J
Like
everyone
else
to
see
what
would
happen
with
the
additional
cares
potential.
Third.
J
Round
of
cares
funding,
but
in
the
meantime
we
have
the
state
of
indiana
has
a
twenty.
J
Thousand
dollar
grant
program:
twenty
thousand
dollar
per
company
grant
program
that
allows.
E
K
K
Involved
in
taking
care
of
this,
I
have
a
question
having
to
do
with
the
loan
application.
J
With
that
testimonial
either,
but
so
what
that
applicant
was
saying
was
that
they
applied.
J
For
federal
funding
and
then
they
hit
the
felony
question
and
didn't
get
that
funding,
then
they.
J
K
Okay,
thank
you.
The
next
question
I
think
is,
and
maybe
I
missed
this
in
your
presentation,
but
what.
K
Percentage
of
the
total
applicants
couldn't
be
helped
due
to
ineligibility
or
other
reasons
and.
J
Not
selected
and
of
those
businesses,
four
were
kind
of
in
the
donut
where
they
didn't
fit.
The.
K
Okay,
do
you
have
an
approximate
percentage
of
that?
You
said
seven
just
ballpark
just.
K
K
Presentation
you
said
moving
forward,
you
would
revamp
the
application.
Would
this
be
part
of.
K
J
Minority-Owned
business
and
also
a
veteran-owned
business,
for
example.
So
we
are
not
planning
to.
K
Okay,
thank
you.
I
know
I
was
thinking
more
in
terms
of
thoroughness
with
data
collection.
K
As
moving
forward,
so
that
was
kind
of
what
I
was
leaning
toward.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your.
I
This
has
accomplished
during
this
time,
so
bravo,
you
mentioned
that
two
loans
had
been
repaid.
I.
I
I
Going
to
lob
this
out
there-
and
I
don't
expect
an
answer
tonight
but
has
any,
has
there
been
much.
I
I
Are
affected
that
interest
might
bring
a
burden
that
dissuades
people
from
from
applying.
J
Would
have
to
sign
off
and
possibly
the
food
and
beverage
commission,
since
it
would
be.
J
J
Expenses
will
be
in
the
loan
servicing
we're
going
to
hire
a
third
party,
a
non-profit,
servicer.
J
Pretty
nominal
and
then
these
are
two-year
loan
terms,
so
the
cost
isn't
enormous
there
in
the.
J
Bba
we'll
be
covering
its
loans
with
that
those
servicing
fees,
and
then
the
other
cost
is
just.
I
I
I
think
it's
an
interesting
question
to
bring
up.
I
I
I
know
that
some
have
said.
A
J
These
the
350
000
are
loans,
and
then
they
have
beefed
up
their
annual
granting
budget.
So.
J
They
added,
I
think,
112
000
for
arts
grants
this
year
and
then
up
from
their
regular
40
000.
J
A
twelve
hundred
dollar
lifetime
scholarship
that
can
be
used
for
training
conference
attendance.
J
Which,
of
course,
is
nil
right
now,
professional
association
twos,
so
it's
pretty
specific,
but
it's.
J
J
Organizations,
and
is
the
the
income
coming
into
the
buea,
is
that
has
that
been
affected
by
kovic.
J
Each
organization,
so
I
I
suppose
we
could
see
next
year,
although
the
buea
is
expecting
a
decrease.
A
Helped
the
community
the
story.
The
last
story,
you
told,
really
was
very
moving
and.
A
A
Seeing
none
will
go
to
council
committees.
Are
there
any
council
committee
reports
and.
A
A
B
A
B
C
D
L
L
Our
sewer
and
storm
water
infrastructure
background
first
of
all,
cbu
wishes
to
sell.
L
L
On
hand,
bond
proceeds
and
current
revenues
will
pay
for
the
remainder
of
the
project.
L
In
2019,
this
was
funded
already
by
the
council
as
part
of
our
sewer
rate
increase.
So.
L
L
Years
ago,
the
tunnel
is
nearly
100
years
old
or
thereabouts
on
its
integrated
condition.
L
2018
council
authorized
an
increase
of
in
the
stormwater
fee
that
will
fund
this
project.
L
M
M
M
It
was
factored
into
the
rate
adjustments
from
a
year
or
two
ago,
as
well
as
your
connection
fees.
M
M
M
Before
we
start
making
payments
on
the
new
bonds
and
as
we
have
bonds
dropping.
M
The
overall
debt
level,
and
that
way
providing
the
most
amount
of
what
we
call
debt.
M
Three-Year
projection
of
what
we
think
that
debt
coverage
rate
ratios
will
be
as.
M
As
I
believe,
mr
kelson
indicated
that
these
we
did
approve
rate
increases.
M
That
have
been
phased
in
starting
in
19
or
2019,
and
our.
M
Test
year
for
2019,
our
operating
revenues
were
about
20.5
million
dollars.
The
rate
increases.
M
Or
the
rate
adjustments
for
the
across
the
board
increase
that
has
already
been
implemented.
M
M
M
Water,
some
of
its
wastewater,
it's
sort
of
the
same
overall
keeping
the
streams
clean
and
it
it.
M
Two
to
one
209
percent,
213
206-
those
are
strong
coverage
ratios,
we're
pretty
confident.
M
That
we'll
maintain
our
a
plus
bond
rating,
we
have
a
ratings
call
with
standard
poor's.
M
And
we'll
be
watching
the
market
after
once,
the
election
is
settled.
M
Or
not
settled
we'll
be
seeing
what
impact
that
has
on
market
conditions,
but.
M
Laura
and
jeff
want
us
to
be
ready
to
move
quickly
to
take
advantage
of
good
times
in
the.
M
Market
and
we
would
estimate
that
sometime
between
the
latter
part
of
november
and
the.
M
Latter
part
of
january
will
be
the
timing
at
which
we'll
we'll
pull
the
trigger
and
actually.
M
Have
a
bond
sale
so
stay
tuned,
we'll
get
back
with
you
on
those
results,
as
as
they
come
in.
F
Pardon
me,
the
committee,
the
utilities
and
sanitation
committee
met
last
wednesday
october.
F
Jordan,
river
culvert
project
and
the
sentiment
of
the
committee.
F
And
the
members
were
favorable
unanimously,
with
a
4-0
vote
on
ordinance,
2026.
A
Going
once
going
twice
councilmemberallo!
Yes,
I
asked
this
question
during
our
committee.
F
Mr
kelson,
could
you
tell
us
regarding
the
expansion
of
the
the
dillman
road
wastewater.
F
Plant
about
how
many
years
does
that
provide
us
in
terms
of
anticipating
increased
population.
C
Yeah
I
had
a
question
about
something:
the
ordinance
section,
20
item
e
says
the
city
shall.
C
C
L
If
you
build
a
new
property
and
the
you're
within
300
feet
of
a
sewer,
you
have
to
connect.
L
M
Described
so
that
it's
really
just
enforcing
our
current
regulations,
yes,
yeah.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
B
All
right,
yes,.
B
A
Yes
and
I
believe
that
ordinance
passes
9-0,
we
go
now
to
the
next
ordinance.
Mr
president,
I.
A
Okay,
it
seems
like
the
motion
carries
with
the
clerk.
Please
read
by
title
and
synopsis
ordinance.
B
B
B
B
B
A
Who
is
here
to
present
on
ordinance
2027.?
It's
it's
me
again,
I'm
victorious
all
right.
L
L
This
item
this
with
me,
I
have
james
hall,
who
is
our
assistant
director
for
environmental
programs,.
L
Plugged
that
can
lead
to
overflows
in
certain
circumstances
when
a
sewer
becomes.
L
L
It
can
cause
balls
of
floating
grease
to
form
that
can
clog
things
up.
L
Got
it
my
technology,
let
me
down
go
on
please:
okay,
fat
soils
and
grease.
L
L
Lead
to
the
the
release
of
sanitary
sewage
into
the
into
the
environment,
it's
very.
L
We
approve
a
number
of
different
devices.
They're
come
in
two
categories,
broadly
speaking,.
L
One
is
a
grease
trap
which
is
inside
of
the
food
service
establishment.
Those
have
to
be
cleaned.
L
L
Placed
in
the
ground,
which
means
that
they're
pretty
expensive
for
for
our
fscs
to
to
install.
L
L
Have
to
be
cleaned
every
90
days,
so
after
the
year
study.
We
also
compared
during
the
study.
L
We
compared
the
other
devices
that
we've
been
approving,
which
are
constructed
from
concrete.
L
L
L
Polymer
material
that
they're
made
from
will
last
longer
in
the
service
than
the
concrete
ones
do.
L
L
L
L
L
Call
so
I
would
I
can
stop
here,
and
we
would
all
welcome
any
questions
that
you
have.
A
Very
good
thanks,
mr
kelson.
If
you
could
unshare
a
screen
now,
that'd
be
great.
A
F
F
Technologies
and
and
working
with
the
affected
parties
to
try
to
make
it
easier
for
for
them.
F
Because
you
know
I'm
sure
they,
those
parties
have
found
it
onerous
to
some
degree.
F
So
the
committee
voted
4-0
to
adopt
sorry
to
give
a
due
pass
recommendation
for
ordinance,
2027.
A
C
L
Can
you
help
with
that
james
yeah,
so
estimates
of
between
12
and
15
for
the
new
type
and
15
to
20.
A
I
do
have
a
question:
can
we
can
you
help
us
understand
a
little
bit
more.
L
Leave
that
for
james
and
jason,
I
think
okay
I'll
give
it
a
shot.
The
old,
concrete.
N
Just
use
detention
time
basically
to
let
the
grease
settle
to
the
top.
So
you're
saying
that.
A
They're
advantageous
both
in
size
and
in
performance,
correct
for
the
size
of
them
correct.
A
N
On
a
conditional
basis,
any
sense
of
how
they're
performing
we
the
only
one
we've
done.
N
Study
was
was
the
first
one
and
they
are
performing
just
as
well,
if
not
better.
A
And
again
the
pri,
the
cost
is
about
what
30
percent
less
than
the
old
way
right.
This.
L
Mr
kelson
yeah,
a
lot
of
the
cost
is
the
price
of
the
hole
digging
a
large
one
of
the
large.
L
In
down
to
the
proper
depth
in
bloomington,
that
may
mean
you've
got
to
break
a
lot
of
rock.
L
L
The
new
ones
will
take
a
hole,
that's
I
think,
six
feet
by
six
feet
and
they're
also.
L
Around
to
install
them-
and
I
think,
there's
a
few
places
where
it
may
be
possible
for
them.
L
Even
to
be
installed
in
basements,
because
you
can,
if
you
can
get
get
them
into
the
basement,.
A
Still
than
than
what
they
already
are,
I
mean
it
sounds
like
a
it's
just
all
across.
A
L
N
So
there's
less
manufacturers
of
them
currently,
just
in
the
time
that
we
started
to
study
we've.
N
A
The
last
question
I
have
would
be:
is
there
any
need
for
existing
businesses
to
retrofit
or.
L
We're
just
adding
these
as
as
allowable
the.
What
leads
a
company
to
need
to
have.
L
A
grease
interceptor
when
it
doesn't
is
there
are
a
number
of
provisions
in
the
code.
L
Leads
you
into
this
program
and
it's
all
it's
all
handled
through
plan
with
you
at
that
point.
A
K
K
Contractors,
I'm
confirming
that
it
is
mandatory
that
they
dump
their
greece
collections
at.
K
Correct
but
a
contractor
could
not
take
it
out
of
the
county
or
could
they.
O
Coordinator
yeah,
we
do
have
some.
There
are
some
national
based
haulers,
so
we.
K
What
are
the
potential
environmental
impacts
that
minim
minimizes
our.
K
Carbon
use
and
that
sort
of
thing
out
at
the
plant
well
with
grease
the
way
we
handle
grease.
L
At
the
plant
is
it's
actually
discharged
into
a
lagoon
where
it
where
it
is
oxidized
in
the
sun.
L
The
the
other
part
of
the
question
we
have
inspection
programs
for
everyone,
who's.
L
Covered
by
the
fog
program,
so
our
we
have
an
inspector
who's
responsible
for
that
they're
also.
L
Responsible,
the
the
regulated
community
is
also
responsible
for
submitting
proper
records
of
all.
K
L
An
anaerobic
digester
project
in
the
future,
greece
is
certainly
one
of
the
most
beneficial.
L
We
we
had
some
conversations
about
about
that
concept
today
about
you
know
how.
K
Hey,
thank
you.
I
just
think
that's
important
for
our
community
members,
the
public
at
large.
K
F
Yeah,
apart
from
using
the
grease
as
a
feedstock
for
anaerobic
digester,
mr
kelson.
L
James
and
jason
know
that
one
and
jason
can
correct
me:
is
it
it's
either
30.
O
O
Know
how
many
we
have
due
to
be
pumped
that
month,
but
we
average
around
that.
F
So
apart
from
the
digester,
which
would
be
a
good
idea,
another
maybe
another
thing
to
consider.
L
L
Travels
with
the
grease
too
so,
but
yeah
we,
we
actually
discussed
looking
into
that
just.
A
P
P
P
P
P
And
as
I
read
that
I
don't
see,
I
do
see
alex
crowley
indicating
mr
crowley
go
ahead
and
speak.
Q
Q
Share
a
couple
of
anecdotes:
one
is
a
business
that
had
to
spend
upwards
of
the
50
of
its
original.
Q
Q
Inception,
which
would
have
been
mitigated
significantly
by
the
work
that
cbu
has
done.
Q
Q
Sink
infrastructure
because
any
of
that
activity
would
have
triggered
a
an
investment
in
in.
Q
Sell
their
business,
and
now
we
have
actually
an
ivy
tech,
culinary
student
taking
over.
A
Okay,
yeah
I'd
like
to
know
mr
kelson,
can
you
tell
us
a
story.
A
Of
an
example
of
a
business
that
had
not
complied
with
a
greased
interceptor.
L
A
single
instance:
well,
actually
I
do
have
one
and
I
won't
name
any
names,
but
I
don't
need.
A
I
don't
need
names
just
examples,
but
about
three
or
four
years
ago
we
had
a
problem
with.
L
A
restaurant
that
did
not
have
an
interceptor
and
it
was
a
restaurant
that
made
quite
a.
L
Downstream
of
a
daycare
facility
and
on
the
same
small
sewer,
main.
A
Rate
payers:
well,
it
costs
quite
a
lot.
We
we
actually
have
expensive
vehicles
that.
L
We
have
to
drive
around
to
clean
sewers
when,
when
we
have
sewer
backups
or
when
we
have.
L
L
L
L
It's
rare
for
a
single
entity
to
cause
a
problem.
It's
much
more
common
that
when
you
have
a.
L
L
Grease
we
are
saving
money
by
doing
this,
but
it's
it's
kind
of
an
something
that
happens
over
the.
A
A
A
A
Ordinance
passes
unanimously
thanks
to
everyone
from
utilities.
We
appreciate
your
presence
tonight.
A
Thanks,
mr
kelson,
for
the
presentation,
etc.
Thank
you
good
night
good
night,
madam
parliamentarian.
B
B
B
B
K
Second,
all
right
here
to
present
is
whom.
R
S
S
This
is
sarah
gomez
here:
public
improvements,
manager
for
planning
transportation
department.
S
And
I'm
here
to
present
on
the
title:
12
updates,
ordinance,
20-21.
S
For
a
few
years
in
the
discussion,
revisions
was
in
response
to
staff
concerns
regarding
the
fee.
S
S
S
Nope,
I
did
not
okay,
so
the
next
update
is
a
fees
and
fees.
You
reflect
amount
of
city
time.
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
The
proposed
changes
are
intended
to
condense.
The
previous
changes,
I'm
sorry,
the
previous.
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
An
initial
fine,
which
would
be
up
to
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
per
day.
And
if
a
contractor.
S
Seventy
five
hundred
dollars
still
in
violation
each
day,
subsequent
fine,
would
continue.
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
And
I
did
want
to
add
that
a
question
that
had
previously
come
up
about
contractors
being.
S
In
other
municipalities,
they
should
be
quite
used
to
this
type
of
fine
structure.
S
S
S
H
Ms
gomez,
I
we
so
the
transportation
committee
met
twice
to
discuss
this
ordinance.
Our
main.
H
Short
and
sweet,
I
would
say,
but
we
were
all
on
board
four
zero
zero
for
this
organ.
K
K
Fine
schedules
because
they
work
in
other
communities.
I
don't
so
much
want
to
argue.
S
Yes,
I
the
plan
would
be
once
it
passes
through
council.
Then
we
would
be
reaching
out
to.
A
H
In
that,
okay,
president
obama,
I
would
like
to
move
to
introduce
amendment
1
for
ordinance,
2021.
C
H
H
Blocked
for
a
period
in
excess
of
24
hours,
a
walk
around
would
be
required
and
now.
H
Some
some
construction
that
happens
usually
in
the
downtown
area,
but
that
is
closed.
Like.
H
During
the
work
day,
but
over
a
period
of
days,
so
something
like
eight
to
five
every
day.
K
Thank
you.
I
only
have
one,
it's
probably
more
of
a
clarification
with
regard
to.
K
H
H
H
H
You
should
try
to
do
an
eight
foot
wide
walk
around
because
there
are
more
people
so.
H
We
would
do
that
so
it
wouldn't.
You
wouldn't
have
a
fine,
because
it's
just
a
suggestion.
Basically.
H
That
so
then,
right,
if
there
needed
to
be
an
eight
foot
wide
one
or
if
that
is
doable,
then.
S
If
that
were
to
be
a
shall
statement,
then
that
would
be
a
you
know
a
shall
they
have
to.
K
K
S
Walk
around
at
all
ever,
and
so
this
is
more
us
working
with
the
contractor.
So
when
we're
looking.
S
S
Ultimately,
it
would
be
up
to
staff
to
say
in
this
particular
situation.
We
think
that
you.
S
Could
probably
fit
in
an
eight
foot,
walk
around
work
on
getting
us
a
plan
that
shows
that.
S
And
then
we
would
go
from
there,
so
it's
not
necessarily
a
motivation
for
them
to
do
it.
It's.
C
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
questions
from
councilmember
sims.
Ms
gomez,
do
I
understand.
C
Correctly
that
the
developer,
who
or
whoever
is
in
charge
of
the
you
know,
encroachment
on
the.
C
S
Contractor
would
find
there
to
be
some
sort
of
issue
with
the
way
it
has
been
approved.
S
C
C
The
eight
feet
also
allows
potentially
two
individuals
who
utilize
wheelchairs.
I
Thank
you
about
two
thirds
of
the
way
down
the
page.
The
walk
around
shall
remain
unobstructed.
I
I
I
To
be
in
writing,
they
have
to
be
granted
that
exception
in
writing.
Can
it
be
verbal.
I
S
S
I
think
that's
a
fair
question.
Typically,
when
there's.
A
Councilmember
sims,
just
something
I
neglected,
I
think
when
I
began.
K
Coming
or
questioning
I
forgot
to
thank
miss
gomez
for
her
presentation.
I
thought
it
was
very.
K
A
A
A
A
B
A
Is
that
everyone?
Okay,
that
amendment
passes,
we
go
now
back
to
the
ordinance
as
amended.
S
Of
went
past
it
sorry,
but
I
really
appreciate
the
addition
of
the
theirs
versus
the.
S
His
or
hers
language,
so
thank
you
for
for
putting
that
forth.
Well,
I
I
would
simply.
A
I
think
that's
important
to
being
inclusive,
so
thanks
for
for
suggesting
it.
A
P
A
T
About
time,
dare
I
say
I
have
concerns,
I
first
I've
really
got
to
say
this.
Isn't
personal.
T
T
That's
across
all
the
staff,
I
I
have
a
lot
of
problems
with
with
roles,
but
it's
it
doesn't.
T
T
T
Not
to
enforce
the
law
if
you
have
the
ability,
but
earlier
this
year
I
decided
to
report
a.
T
The
engineering
division
telling
me
they
absolutely
have
no
enforcement
mechanism
so.
T
T
They
decide
that
a
warning
was
sufficient.
Will
construction
sites
by
my
house
be
the
only
ones.
T
T
T
Problems
are
continuing
and
are
at
the
discretion
of
staff
already,
like
sidewalks,
were
closed.
T
T
Sidewalk
on
one
side
of
the
street
over
that
that
three
three
eighths
of
a
mile
stretch.
T
T
To
hear
ms
gomez
read
that
section
from
the
the
manual
of
uniform
traffic
control
devices.
T
T
And
it
says
so
in
the
mutcd,
so
I'm
so
glad
to
hear
that
that
acknowledged.
But
I
am
absolutely.
T
T
We'll
see
thanks
for
your
time.
Thank
you
to
any
other
public
comment
on
ordinance
2021,
as
amended.
A
Final
call
for
comment
on
orders
2021,
as
amended.
C
It
is,
it
is
overdue
legislation,
it's
long
overdue,
that
we
have
some.
C
I
think
this
will
improve
matters
for
pedestrians
throughout
the
city
when
there's
construction.
C
Add
in
in
future
years,
so
let's
I
think
this
will
do
a
good
job,
but
let's
keep
an
eye
on
it.
A
I
will
just
say
I
wanted
to
also
thank
the
department
for
bringing
this
forward.
The.
A
Work
of
ms
gomez,
mr
copper,
it
is
overdue.
I
would
even
go
so
far
and
say
it's
long
overdue.
A
The
noise
ordinance
used
to
be
something
similarly
unable
to
be
enforced.
I
think
I
brought.
A
You
know
prior
officials
of
the
city
charged
with
maintaining
the
public
right-of-way
might.
A
Have
thought
that
there
was
nothing
that
could
be
done
about
it?
There
was
something
that.
A
A
hierarchy
where
cars
have
priority
if
this
goes
some
way
to
equalizing
making.
A
History,
more
complete,
which
I
think
has
a
very
strong
contribution
to
then
I
think
we
will.
G
Thanks
yeah,
I
also
just
wanted
to
thank
mr
copper
and
miss
gomez
for
the
transportation.
G
Committee
for
all
their
work,
this
is
an
issue
I
had
followed
up
with
staff
quite
a
bit
on
earlier.
G
G
As
other
city
staff
for
working
together
with
us
to
to
address
some
of
these
things,.
G
G
We
need
to
just
look
at
this
over
time
and
see
how
it's
working
a
lot
of
this
was.
G
Is
inherent
or
needed
for
engineering,
and
I
think
you
know,
staff
and
transportation.
G
One
issue
in
particular:
I
wanted
to
express
a
desire
to
make
sure
that
we're
mindful
of.
G
Is
when
the
city
is
pursuing
projects
as
developer
or
as
a
construction
entity?
We
need
to
be.
G
And
that
we,
even
if
not
following
the
exact
same
processes,
that
that
were
yeah.
B
A
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
C
U
U
U
U
Let
me
introduce
the
staff
war
in
this
new
meeting
best
rosenberger
planning
services
manager.
U
A
H
Happen
on
a
regular
basis,
we
talked
about
the
stop
signs,
the
no
parking
zones
we
there
are.
H
H
We
would
talk
about
that
a
different
time,
so
this
this
ordinance
was
recommended
do
pass
four.
U
Yeah,
this
is
amendment
one
that
council
member
warren
sponsored.
It
is
mainly
actually.
A
And
I'm
ashamed
of
this,
but
the
gist
of
it
is
it.
It
was
born
out
of.
A
A
concern
that
several
members,
several
members
of
the
public,
have
who
owned
houses
on
17th
street.
A
To
explain
but
they're,
obviously
in
garden
hill
they're
on
the
south
side
of
17th
street.
A
Generally
speaking,
it's
a
little
bit
more.
It's
a
little
easier
to
enforce.
A
Neighborhood
zones,
when
they're
you
know
sort
of
evenly
drawn
just
so
it's
easy
to
describe
the.
A
Zone
so
with
that
either
mr
farshir
are
happy
to
answer
questions
on
amendment.
One.
A
T
T
Good
amendment
or
ordinance
here,
if
we're
talking
about
walnut
and
the
b-link
there's
like
a.
T
T
Remiss
if
I
didn't,
you
know,
give
a
little
report
from
that,
because
I've
used
it
a
number.
T
T
Of
the
matter
is,
it
doesn't
work
when
you
press
the
button.
The
light
changes
very
quickly,
but.
T
T
T
The
cars
behind
them
stop,
but
it's
what's
known
as
a
multiple
threat
crossing,
because.
T
T
T
T
T
But
it's
obviously
it's
completely
ineffective.
If
you
go
down
there
and
try
it
you'll
see.
T
Enforcement,
honestly,
I
think,
would
help
a
little
bit,
but
we
need
an
excitement
and
eagerness
on.
T
A
Comment:
counselor,
piedmont,
smith.
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
public
comment
we
received.
C
A
different
type
of
signal,
mr
farshi,
could
you
clarify
what
type
of
signal.
C
We
are
putting
into
code
for
at
the
be
link,
trail
and
and
walnut
street.
U
Actually,
at
the
crossing
of
south
walnut
street
and
building
trail,
and
it.
U
R
I
can
clarify
this,
is
you
know
proper
interim
transportation
traffic
engineer
so.
R
Php
they
are
the
the
same
thing,
so
that
is
what
is
here
at
the
b-link.
H
H
It
costs
money
like
changing
anything
and
the
alternative
transportation
budget
in
2021.
H
Is
very
small
just
like
it
has
been
in
the
past
year,
so
it's
just
sadly,
as
usual,
a
matter
of.
A
I
want
to
thank
council
for
piedmont
smith
for
catching
my
heir
of
my
my
own
amendment.
A
From
the
public,
so
thank
you
for
that.
Also,
there
is
another
aspect
of
this
ordinance
that
I.
A
I
understand
why
parking
services
director
wanted
wants
this
flexibility.
I
think
there.
A
Permits
as
early
in
the
year
she
sees
fit,
but
I
do
think
it's
going
to
perhaps
confuse
the
issue.
A
Over
the
years,
I
have
seen
more
than
my
share
of
title
15
ordinances,
some
of
which
used
to
run.
A
Into
the
dozens
of
sections,
and
so
to
that
end
you
know
I
and
other
members
have
begun
talking.
A
With
planning
and
transportation
about
how
we
can
find
a
way
to
perhaps
delegate.
A
The
changing
and
of
stop
signs
and
yellow
curves
and
the
like,
perhaps
by
stripping.
A
Nominal
changes
to
code
that
we
should
really
think
about
a
way
to
make
that
make
this
more.
A
Administratively,
more
efficient,
so
I'm
hoping
that
maybe
we'll
see
the
last
of
these
title.
A
A
D
B
B
A
Thank
you
and
I
will
be
referring
ordinance
2031
to
the
admin
committee
administration.
A
Unless
there
is
a
motion
to
do
otherwise
counsel
for
piedmont
smith,
I
wanted
to.
C
Acquire
as
to
the
scheduling
of
the
meeting
of
the
public
safety
committee
for
november
12th,.
A
Oh,
we
were
referred
to
20
20
to
a
second,
I
I
I
apologize.
I
did
not
think
about
this.
Yesterday.
We.
A
After
the
committee
the
whole,
but
I
don't
know
how
long
the
committee
the
whole
should.
A
A
We'd
have
to
have
the
admin
committee
later.
We
could
certainly
do
committee
of
the
whole
at
5
30.
A
That
takes
the
most
time.
So
that's
generally,
why
I
want
to
put
that
last
customer
piedmont,
smith.
A
Probably
be
enough,
then
let
me
suggest
5
30
for
committee
of
the
whole
6
30
for.
A
Advent
committee
and
7
30
for
public
safety
committee.
I
did
forget
that
that
was
coming
back.
A
Everyone;
okay
with
that
any
objections.
Okay
with
that,
we
now
go
to
additional
public
comment.