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A
D
B
A
Thank
you,
and
we
want
to
first
thing
we
want
to
do
this
evening-
is
offer
a
very
special
welcome
to
guests.
We
have
this
evening.
The
Hoosier
Trails
pack,
100
Scouts,
are
with
us,
and
we
are
delighted
that
you
are
here.
They
are
in
the
process
of
earning
their
civic
engagement
badge,
and
we
applaud
you
for
that,
and
we
applaud
your
family
members,
who
are
here
supporting
you
as
well.
So
will
the
council
please
join
me
in
recognizing
this
group.
A
Great
to
have
you
all
here,
we'll
start
with
an
agenda
summation
we'll
begin
this
evening
with
approval
of
minutes.
We
have
two
sets
to
go
through
tonight,
then
we'll
move
into
reports
from
Council
Members,
the
mayor
and
city
offices,
reports
from
Council
committees
and
then
we'll
enter
our
first
period
of
public
comment
for
the
evening.
First
of
two
periods
of
public
comment
for
the
evening.
A
We'll
then
take
up
appointments
to
boards
and
commissions,
we'll
then
move
into
legislation
for
second
readings
and
resolutions,
under
that,
under
that
heading
we
have
ordinance
23-02
to
amend
Title
II
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code
entitled
Administration
and
personnel
regarding
the
transfer
from
chapter
2.21,
Department
of
Law
to
chapter
2.23,
community
and
Family
Resources
Department
next
under
legislation
for
first
readings.
We
have
none
this
evening.
We'll
then
go
to
our
second
peer
of
two
periods
of
public
comment
for
the
evening,
we'll
take
up
matters
of
council
schedule
and
then
we'll
adjourn.
A
D
Just
wanted
to
note
the
100th
anniversary
of
the
Buskirk
Chumley
theater
was
carried
out
last
Saturday
night
with
a
Gala
event
at
the
theater.
It's
remarkable
that
that
building
has
survived
a
hundred
years,
let
alone
as
a
public
good
a
benefit
that
is
the
city
provides
to
the
public
that
is
made
possible
all
this
time.
D
Bct
management,
of
course,
is
the
organization
that
was
created
20
years
ago
to
sustain
it
and
I
look
forward.
They
did
mention,
then,
that
they
look
forward
to
another
100.
In
fact,
even
another
Thousand
Years,
the
bus
cook
generally
I
just
can't
think
that
far
ahead,
unfortunately
but
I
hope
it'll
be
around
for
at
least
100
more.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you,
I
just
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
to
The
Troop
100
for
being
here.
This
is
fantastic
way
to
go,
and
I
also
wanted
to
say
that
the
restore
which
is
part
of
habitat
looking
for
volunteers,
so
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
anybody
listening
or
anybody
in
the
audience
wants
to
volunteer
at
the
restore
to
help
they
sell,
building
supplies
and
furniture
and
then
help
build
houses
for
people.
So
thank
you.
G
It
might
be
one
of
the
best
kept
secrets,
but
I
am
an
eagle
scout
and
I
earned
that
at
the
age
of
16..
So
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
all
some
of
you
join
me
in
that
with
ranks
so
again
welcome
this
evening.
My
report
this
evening
is
today
is
the
first
day
of
Black.
History
Month
I
would
be
remiss
not
to
say
that,
of
course,
it's
the
shortest
month
of
the
year,
but
that's
another
conversation
for
another
day.
G
But
what
I
really
want
to
do
is
recognize
the
city
and
what
we're
doing
to
recognize
and
make
more
people
in
the
community
more
included
and
and
just
feel
more
welcome
in
our
town.
G
The
city
has
committed
resources,
along
with
other
community
organizations
and
individuals,
and
besides
the
mayor's
input
and
the
mayor's
office,
actually
Miss
Beverly
calendar
Anderson,
who
was
the
director
of
the
community
and
family
resources
department
and
one
of
her
staff,
Mr
Toya,
Moss
who's,
the
safe
and
civil
City
director
are
the
engines.
That's
driving
this
month-long
celebration
wish
I'd
saw
many
of
you
more
at
the
kickoff,
but
that's
okay.
G
What's
the
word
I'm
looking
for
theme,
I'm,
sorry,
I
lost
a
word
for
I
said
this
month's
theme
is
called
black
innovation
and
if
you
look
at
our
display
case
out
in
the
hallway
on
your
way
out,
if
you
didn't
see
it
on
your
way
in
take
a
look
at
that
it
has
a
display
of
some
of
our
black
Americans
and
some
of
their
inventions.
That
has
been
over
the
course
of
a
lifetime.
G
There's
patents,
there's
many
of
the
things
that
some
of
you
may
not
even
think
that
were
invented
by
black
people,
but
it's
important
I
think
to
educate
folks
on
those
contributions
to
society.
I
think
long
term
it'll
do
a
lot
to
take
care
of
some
of
the
systemic
now,
not
all,
but
some
of
the
systemic
issues
that
we
face,
because
we
just
know
more
about
each
other
and
I.
Think
that's
very,
very
important.
G
So
if
you
look
it
up
online
I
hope
we
see
many
of
you
in
other
events
throughout
the
month
it
was
a
great
kickoff,
the
other
day,
a
great
keynote
speaker,
a
great
musical
group,
so
I
just
want
you
to
enjoy
get
to
know
someone
that
you
didn't
know
when
you
walked
into
that
event
and
that'll
make
this
a
much
much
better
community.
So
thank
you.
E
Thank
you.
A
resident
has
alerted
the
city,
specifically
the
ESD
Department
of
low-level
frequency
vibrations
coming
from
Carlisle
Factory
on
Hillside,
and
the
reason
I
want
to
bring
this
to
your
attention
is
that
I
think
it
would
be
useful
if,
if
other
people
who
are
in
the
vicinity
of
Carlisle,
who
are
feeling
these
types
of
vibrations,
if
they
could,
let
us
know
about
it,
it
would
be
helpful
in
sort
of
you
know
getting
to
addressing
it
really
and
solving
the
problem.
E
A
team
from
Carlisle
met
with
us
last
week,
they're
they're
interested
in
remedying
this
problem.
They
they're
not
quite
sure
how
to
do
it
yet,
but
it
comes
from
some
equipment,
that's
running,
that
needs
to
run
there.
So
if
you
would
like
to
contact
me,
my
emails
Rallo
d
is
in
real
OD
at
bloomington.ion.gov,
or
you
can
also
contact
the
city
of
Bloomington
office
on
on
online
bloomington.ion.gov
Council.
You
can
find
contact
information
there,
but
it
would
be
good
to
know
who's
affected
and
and
how
far
from
the
plant
it's
actually
affecting
people.
Thank
you.
H
Yes,
just
briefly,
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
the
death
of
Tyree
Nichols
at
the
hands
of
Memphis
Police
and
the
Injustice
of
this
murder
and
just
read
a
quote
from
Kamala
Harris
at
the
funeral
today.
She
said
this
is
a
family
that
lost
their
son
and
their
brother
through
an
act
of
violence
at
the
hands
and
the
feet
of
people
who
had
been
charged
with
keeping
them
safe.
I
I
Dr
Audrey
McCluskey
talking
about
the
history
from
her
perspective
as
former
director
of
the
black
film
archive
just
a
wonderful
night
of
learning
about
one
of
the
anchors
to
our
downtown
Arts,
District,
so
again,
happy
birthday
to
the
Buskirk
Chumley
and
let's,
let's
continue
that
good
Legacy,
the
other
Arts
organization
in
town
that
is
worth
mentioning,
of
course,
is
the
Waldron
Arts
Center,
now
managed
by
con
installation.
I'm
a
season
ticket
holder
and
I
am
very
much
looking
forward
to
seeing
death
trap,
which
will
be
at
the
Ted
Jones
theater.
I
It's
running
now,
I
hear
it's
really
good.
Don't
anybody
spoil
it
for
me
because
I
haven't
seen
it
yet,
but
again
we
are
so
blessed
in
this
community
to
have
such
a
strong
Arts
presence
in
our
downtown,
with
both
the
Buskirk
Chumlee
theater
and
the
Walden
Arts
Center,
now
managed
by
constellation
and
a
welcome
to
the
Scouts
in
the
crowd.
I
A
A
B
I
realize
it's
customary
to
speak
from
the
podium,
but
since
I
imagine
you're
going
to
be
calling
a
roll
call
vote
fairly
quickly.
I'm
going
to
stay
over
here.
With
your
permission,
please,
okay,
so
it's
Black,
History,
Month
and
I
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
address
all
of
you.
B
I
think
by
this
point,
we're
aware
of
two
black
men
who
were
recently
killed
in
this
country
and
to
partially
quote
Kareem
Abdul-Jabbar
and
the
wonderful
article
that
he
sent
out.
These
killings
don't
celebrate
the
joys
of
black
history
month,
but
they
certainly
reflect
the
reality
of
black
history,
and
this
is
really
hard
because
Black
History
Month
is
supposed
to
be
about
joy
and
it's
supposed
to
be
about
celebration,
and
it's
supposed
to
be
about
learning.
It's
a
chance
for
all
of
us
to
learn
things
that
we
were
never
taught
in
the
past.
B
We
ate,
we
sang
well
to
be
fair,
I
hummed
along
you,
don't
want
me
to
sing
and
we
learned,
and
we
celebrated
and
I
know
that
not
everyone
could
attend
every
event.
But
I
wanted
to
stress
to
everyone
that
we
have
four
more
weeks
of
wonderful
programming
and
learn
opportunities
to
learn
and
grow
as
a
community.
B
B
A
We'll
move
now
into
reports
from
Council
committees.
Are
there
any
I'm,
not
aware
of
any,
in
which
case
we'll
move
into
our
first
period
of
public
comment
for
the
evening?
This
is
an
opportunity
for
members
of
the
public
to
speak
on
items
not
on
the
agenda
this
evening.
Can
we
have
just
a
show
of
hands
and
Chambers
of
how
many
people
want
to
offer
comment
to
and
Mr
Mr
Lucas?
Could
you
please
three
Mr
Lucas?
Could
you
make
our
announcement
on
Zoom?
Please.
K
Yes,
if
they're
members
of
the
public
joining
us
on
Zoom
that
would
like
to
speak,
please
use
the
raise
hand
feature
to
let
us
know
you
can
find
that
in
your
control
bar
under
the
reactions,
tab
or
the
more
tab.
You
can
also
send
a
chat
to
the
meeting
host
to.
Let
us
know
you'd
like
to
speak,
and
we
will
recognize
you
that
way.
A
L
L
L
L
Now,
one
complaint,
I've
heard
from
time
to
time
is
the
makeup
of
the
one-party
Council
here.
Bloomington
may
have
its
fair
share
of
Monolithic
student
housing
complex,
but
this
is
not
a
descriptor
I
would
use
for
this
Council.
As
we
saw
last
week's
RDC
purchase
5-4
vote.
Those
are
not
uncommon.
Occurrences
I've
had
conversations
with
elected
officials
from
other
communities
who
are
astonished
by
this
development,
which
is
a
good
thing
to
have.
The
spirit
of
debate
is
very
much
valued.
However,
it
remained.
It
must
remain
e,
collegial
in
both
tone
and
deliberation.
L
It
got
a
little
chippy
last
week
as
someone
who
represents
the
business
Community
with
the
chamber
during
the
purchase
of
the
CFC
West
showers
property,
the
downtown
community
redevelopment
economic
development
or
Creed
fund
was
taken
off
the
table.
These
funds
were
earmarked
to
renovate
the
West
showers
building
for
the
new
Public
Safety
headquarters.
The
chamber
greatly
appreciates
the
due
diligence
by
the
council
members
here
and
the
mayor's
commitment
to
using
these
funds
for
the
downtown
Economic
Development.
L
The
work
continues,
as
you
heard
from
me
earlier
last
year,
the
body
of
slides,
indicating
possible
improvements
in
downtown
Planters
and
enhancements
in
alleyways.
The
point
is
not
to
tell
the
city
what
to
do
with
these
funds.
L
The
best
way
to
safeguard
Crete
funds
from
922
is
to
allocate
it
to
specific
projects.
My
fear
as
time
passes,
These
funds
will
simply
revert
to
the
general
fund
doing
a
disservice
to
the
business
owners
who
paid
into
it
and
the
community
as
a
whole.
The
business
Community
is
here
to
help
in
any
fashion,
we
can
do
to
keep
the
Integrity
of
the
Creed
funds
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
A
M
Hi
everybody,
my
name
is
Katie
Rock
I'm
here
with
a
group
of
us
tonight
representing
the
dispatchers
of
the
Monroe
County
Central
emergency
dispatch
Center.
As
we
have
recently
asked
mayor
Hamilton
to
voluntarily
recognize
the
union
we
are
forming
with
communication
workers
of
America
I
just
have
a
very
short
statement
for
you.
Guys
tonight,
just
tell
a
little
bit
about
what
we
do
and
our
goals
for
unionization.
M
So
we
standing
here
are
some
of
the
voices
that
you
guys
hear
if
you
call
9-1-1
anyone
anywhere
in
our
County
and
if
any
first
responder
in
the
field
in
our
County
radios
for
assistance,
we
are
the
voices
that
calmly
respond
to
them
and
make
sure
they
know
that
they
are
getting
everything
that
they
need.
While
we
work
in
the
background
to
get
what
it
is
that
they
need,
we
have
a
few
goals
for
unionization
and
they
are.
M
We
would
like
to
be
recognized
by
the
city
as
First
Responders,
as
all
the
other
First
Responders.
Are.
We
want
to
work
towards
more
diversity
in
the
Dispatch
Center.
We
would
like
to
work
towards
more
reliable
and
consistent
scheduling,
and
we
would
like
to
create
a
more
robust
pay
scale
that
acknowledges
both
the
levels
of
difficulty
and
stress
that
our
job
entails,
as
well
as
the
Decades
of
experience
that
some
of
our
dispatchers
have.
M
M
We
hope
that
mayor
Hamilton
will
soon
choose
to
voluntarily
recognize
our
Union,
and
we
are
very
much
looking
forward
to
beginning
the
bargaining
process
in
the
near
future
and
we
hope
to
have
the
city
council
support
as
well.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
Thank.
K
Yes,
I
have
a
written
comment
from
Sam
Dove
who's
asked
me
to
read
the
following
and
I
will
set
the
timer.
This
is
a
little
longer
than
normal.
Sam
says
the
city
of
Bloomington
Asian
Pacific
Islander
American,
public
affairs,
Association
Indiana
University,
and
the
national
Asian
Pacific
American
women's
Forum
invite
the
community
to
a
rally
on
February
the
4th
in
support
of
the
Asian
Asian
American
and
Pacific
Islander
Community.
The
rally
will
include
local
leaders,
Indiana
University
students
and
officials
coming
together
to
stand
against
hate,
bigotry
and
discrimination
and
to
promote
Unity.
K
K
Collaborators
include
the
city
of
Bloomington
Asian,
Pacific,
Islander,
American,
public
affairs,
Association
National,
Asian
Pacific
American,
women's
Forum,
Indiana,
chapter
IU,
Asian
culture,
center,
IU,
Asian,
American,
Association,
IU,
Jewish,
Cultural,
Center,
IU,
Department
of
American
studies
and
the
IU
dean
of
students,
division
of
student
affairs
for
questions
or
additional
information
about
the
rally
in
support
of
the
Asian
Asian
American
and
Pacific
Islanders
contact,
APA,
PA,
Indiana
chapter
president
Linda.
She
at
a
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A
N
Last
weekend
in
Atlanta
they
had
their
protests,
their
riots.
You
know
when
they
was
doing
a
protest.
Last
weekend
and
during
the
week
I
seen
on
the
news,
a
thing
where
the
the
six
protesters
that
were
arrested
went
to
court,
the
domestic
terrorists
that
were
spray
painting
the
buildings
and
burn
a
cop
car
busted,
a
bunch
of
Windows
out
of
a
bunch
of
businesses.
You
know
I
thought
it
was
kind
of
strange.
N
You
know
when
antifa's
on
the
street
busting
windows
out
of
buildings,
they're
bad
guys,
man,
they
got
their
hoods
on
they're
hiding,
but
when
they
was
in
front
of
Judge
the
six
people
that
was
arrested,
they
had
puppy
eyes
when
they
went
from
the
judge.
Oh
I
didn't
do
that.
They
had
a
lawyer.
I
didn't
do
that!
Well,
everybody's
Presumed
Innocent!
You
know
until
they're
proven
guilty
I
understand,
but
you
know
it's
it's
it.
You
know.
N
I
was
glad
to
see
Justice
kind
of
come
out
that
a
little
bit
because
I
think
each
one
of
them
six
thought
they
was
going
to
walk
out
of
that
jail
that
day,
but
they
didn't
get
a
walk
out.
N
Each
one
of
them
got
350
000
Bond,
for
what
they've
done,
I'm
glad
Justice
is
getting
served.
You
know
they
haven't
been
to
court
yet,
but
they
got
the
bond.
That's
good.
We
need
to
start
arresting
these
people
when
they're
at
they're.
Doing
that
you
know
you
protest,
that's
cool.
Peaceful
protest
is
great,
but
I
was
just
tickled
to
death
when
that
judge
laid
that
350
000
bond
for
each
one
of
them.
N
N
A
I
don't
have
a
speech.
That's
why
I'm
kind
of
kind
of
all
over
the
place
a
little
bit
I,
don't
have
a
speech.
I,
don't
write
speeches
when
I
come
here,
I'm
setting
my
place
and
I
think
you
know
we'll
go
down
and
make
a
little
comment.
That's
why
I'm
here
again,
but
a
lot
of
people
come
up
here
with
their
their
little
laptops
or
pre-made
speeches.
This
is
coming
from
my
heart
man.
You
know
this
stuff
I'm
concerned
about.
What's
going
on,
we
need
to.
N
N
I
took
a
shot
of
my
buddy
Jim
Beam
in
in
in
celebration.
I
was
glad.
Justice
needs
to
be
served.
You
know
we
need
to
support
our
local
police.
We've
got
a
great
police
force
in
Bloomington,
and
you
know
you
guys
need
to
listen
to
him.
You
know
if
they
want
to
go
back
here
or
they
want
to
stay
on
Third
Street.
You
need
to
listen
to
them
guys.
They
know
what
they're
doing
you
know
Third
Street.
N
If
you
got
to
build
a
new
building,
go
for
it,
they
deserve
it,
but
you
know
they
got
better
egress
and
you
know,
and
all
that
stuff
down
there,
because
back
here
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
leave
here
quick
and
go
to
you
know,
and
someone
said
the
other
day,
I
think
it's
Matt
down.
There
said
something
about
on
down
here
where
they're
at
on
Third
Street
people
on
Lincoln
and
Washington
was
worried
about
how
the
police
drive
down
through
the
street.
You
know
they're
leaving.
N
Well,
we
got
concerns
that
that
they're
driving
too
fast.
You
know
in
the
sirens.
Well,
you
know
when
you've
got
a
family
member,
it's
OD
and
they
need
Narcan.
I
want
that
police
officer
right
there
and
I
gotta
say
from
my
own
experience:
they've
saved
they've
saved
one
of
my
family
members
more
than
once,
I
want
them
to
get
there
quick.
N
You
know
I'm
not
worried
about
people
on
Washington,
Street
or
Lincoln
about
the
traffic
and
the
police
flying
down
through
there.
I
want
them
to
get
to
my
place
fast
if
they
don't
like
that.
Neighborhood
and
please
move
but
I
want
to
I
have
had
experience
with
the
police
a
few
times
and
they
they
saved
my
daughter
one
time
and
I
want
him
to
get
there
fast.
N
N
It's
kind
of
you
know,
I
I
watched
people
say
they
don't
even
roll
a
decks
to
them,
guys.
Well,
okay,
yeah!
You
know
just
go
on,
you
know,
but
another
thing
too,
as
Steve,
you
know:
I
watched
the
meeting
last
time
after
I
left
here
and
I
went
home
and
I
watched
it
and
you
you
made
a
comment
about
David
Grubb.
A
N
But
anyway,
he
said
something
about
David
Grubb
and
David
Grubb.
He
rubbed
some
people
aren't
the
wrong
way
sometimes,
but
he
was
right
about
a
lot
of
things:
the
drugs
they're
out
of
control
and
he
predicted
that.
A
O
O
O
And
I
think
it
sets
expectations
for
conduct
and
I
made
a
comment
last
week
where
I
was
trying
to
convey
that
toxicity
bullying
hostility
has
an
effect
not
just
on
the
person
it's
directed
at,
but
the
community
at
Large
and
I
think
we're
in
a
time
right
now
where
we
have
to
be
very
mindful
of
the
expectations
we
set
and
you
the
council,
as
I
said,
are
Shepherds
in
some
respect
of.
O
Actions
are
taken,
our
language
is
used
and
it
reflects
upon
the
local
government
or
it
encourages
participation
or
thwarts
to
participation.
You
should
be
mindful
of
that
and
I
think
right
now,
perhaps
this
evening
you'll
make
history,
so
I
think
you
should
be
very
mindful
of
that.
Thank
you.
A
P
I
didn't
come
prepared
with
a
speech
tonight,
but
I.
Just
I
do
have
a
few
comments.
First
speaking
to
council
member
Smith's
earlier
comment
about
restore
is
a
fantastic
organization
and
if
you
didn't
know
tomorrow
and
or
rather
Friday
and
Saturday,
is
their
monthly
half
off
sale.
So
it's
a
great
opportunity
to
go
and
support
them
and
get
some
fantastic
pieces
that
you
might
need.
P
My
son
would
have
loved
that
and
what
a
great
opportunity
I'm
sorry
they
had
to
go,
but
it
would
have
been
a
fantastic
opportunity
for
them
to
really
be
civically
engaged
and
to
hear
some
of
the
debates
and
concerns
that
we
have
before
us
in
our
community
at
this
time,
and
my
hope
would
be
that
in
looking
to
counsel
for
leadership
and
inspiration
that
you
were
able
to
provide
that
for
them
and
for
the
next
generation
of
youth
who
might
one
day
be
sitting
at
that
table,
it's
February
1st,
so
I
realize
I'm
a
month
into
the
new
year.
P
I
don't
like
to
make
resolutions
because
I'm
bad
at
keeping
them.
But
I
came
up
with
an
acronym
I
deal
with
them
at
work
on
a
daily
basis.
P
Aia
and
carb
lead
AP,
All
architecture
speak
so
I'm
used
to
them,
and
something
I'd
like
to
think
about
for
myself
in
the
coming
year
is
the
acronym
Arts
and
that
to
me
is
accountability,
respect
transparency
and
service.
P
Q
A
H
Yes,
I
have
a
series
of
recommendations
from
interview
committee
C
I,
move
that
for
the
historic
preservation
Commission
that
Duncan
Campbell
be
reappointed
to
seat
C1,
Kristin
Hawley
to
seat
C2
and
Ernesto
Castaneda
to
seat
C3.
A
H
On
behalf
of
interview
committee,
C
I
move
that
Randy
Cassidy
be
reappointed
to
seat
C1
and
Deborah
Meyerson
to
seat
C2
of
the
Redevelopment
commission.
Second,.
A
H
For
the
commission
on
Hispanic
and
Latino
affairs,
on
behalf
of
interview
committee,
C
I
moved
to
appoint
Reyes
Javier
Rosales
to
seat
C2
wreck.
C
I
A
H
A
H
So
again,
on
behalf
of
interview
committee,
C
I
moved
to
appoint
Regina
Moore
to
seat
C2
of
the
parking
Commission
and
then
I
moved
to
a
point:
Tatiana
Peters
to
seat
C4
of
the
commission
on
the
status
of
Children
and
Youth.
Second,.
A
E
Yes,
Madam,
president
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion.
I
move
that
Greg
Alexander
be
removed
from
the
traffic
commission
for
the
following
cause
for
posting
obscene,
an
inappropriate
statements,
including
statements
directed
at
an
antagonizing
members
of
the
public
that
are
Unbecoming
of
an
appointed
member
of
a
public
body
which
have
diminished
Mr
Alexander's
ability
and
fitness
to
Be,
an
Effective
member
of
the
traffic
commission
and
to
represent
the
best
interests
of
the
city.
A
D
I
think
that
this
is
well
I
know
that
this
is
unprecedented.
We
have
never
removed
someone
from
a
commission
for
cause
in
the
time
that
I've
been
on
Council,
we
have
no
process
for
it.
D
The
reason
for
the
the
motion-
I'm
presuming,
is
controversial
statements
made
by
the
the
member
of
the
body
in
question,
and
you
know
we've
heard
public
testimony
tonight
from
a
couple
of
people
who
were
referring
to
this.
This
motion,
I,
don't
even
know
where
to
begin
well
how
problematic
this
action
is
we
there's
a
very
poor
understanding
of
the
terms
for
cause.
D
The
action,
I
believe
is
extremely
political,
that
why
I
mean
there's
a
difference
between
words
that
should
be
censored
and
statements
that
are
political
critiques.
D
He
is
a
fierce
critic
of
the
elm
Heights
neighborhood,
having
gotten
benefit
for,
or
more
attention
than
most
neighborhoods
do,
including
his
neighborhoods
he's
a
fierce
critic
of
councilman
baralo,
who
made
the
motion,
who
allowed
Elm
Heights
to
have
an
unprecedented
access
to
this
body
to
have
a
member
of
the
public
present
for
an
indefinite
period
on
this
topic?
That's
not
a
privilege.
It's
been
accorded
to
any
other
person.
D
The
member
who
seconded
this
motion
was
the
president
of
the
time
and
allowed
that
process.
This
is
a
matter
of
process.
What
should
be
our
process
for
I
mean
there's,
there's
a
reason.
We
need
to
have
reason
to
or
the
ability
to
remove
members,
but
the
only
specific
reference
we
have
in
code
is
for
people
who
don't
show
up.
D
So
we
have
just
constituted
an
actual
committee
to
study
our
processes
to
study
our
rules.
It's
the
new
incarnation
of
the
rules,
committee
and
I
fear
for
the
precedent
that
this
would
set.
If
we
were
to
vote
on
it
tonight,
let
alone
to
not
send
it
for
further
study.
It
was
councilman
Rollo
who
famously
opposed
standing
committees
and
encouraged
the
return
of
nominating
committees.
Well,
the
nominating
committees.
We
just
named
a
dozen
people
to
boards
and
commissions
tonight,
without
so
much
as
a
question.
D
We
almost
never
questioned
the
work
of
non-mating
committees.
This
is
a
process
that
he
voted
for
that
he
chose,
and
so
you
know,
I
mean
I.
Don't
know
why
he
didn't
argue
against
the
nomination
when
he
had
a
chance
to
I.
Don't
think
that
nominee
committees
are
a
good
idea,
but
that's
what
we're
using
now
and
so
I
mean
all
of
this
is
about
process.
This
deserves
a
great
deal
of
discussion.
Not
you
know
not
just
this
particular
motion,
but
any
such
potential
motion.
D
So
for
that
reason,
and
more
than
than
I
have
time
to
say
I,
you
know
strongly
disagree
with
the
idea
that
this
motion
should
be
taken
tonight
and
I
absolutely
believe
that
we
should
be
discussing
it.
We
should
give
the
idea
due
process,
let
alone
any
a
duly
appointed
board
and
member
member
of
a
border
commission
due
process.
So
let's
define
due
process
before
we
invent
it
out
of
whole
cloth.
Thank
you.
J
Happy
for
the
community
take
that
up
seconded
the
motion.
I
do
have
a
comment,
not
in
my
role
as
chair
of
that
committee,
if
that's
appropriate,
just
to
note
that
I
support
the
motion,
obviously
I
seconded
it
councilmember
Boland
raises
some
important
points
about
precedent,
about
equity
and
fairness
in
the
administration
of
the
council's
responsibility
to
oversee
its
its
board
and
commission
appointments.
I.
Think
an
important
Point
here
is
that,
and
this
is
not
the
consideration
of
a
reappointment
or
an
appointment.
J
It
is
a
consideration
of
for
cause
removal
that
is
very
different
than
what
we've
heard
from
some
members
of
the
public
about,
for
instance,
Council,
board
and
commission
members
serving
at
the
pleasure
of
the
council.
That
is
incorrect.
They,
they
are
duly
appointed
members
who
are
serving
in
their
own
right
and
can
only
be
removed
for
cause.
If
they
served
at
our
pleasure,
they
could
just
be
asked
to
step
down
without
cause.
So
we
are
in
a
legally
distinct
space.
J
Having
reappointed
Mr,
Alexander
I
think
it's
entirely
possible
that
that
reappointment
might
not
have
occurred.
Had
the
information
that
everyone
knows
now
been
shared
at
that
time.
I,
don't
know
it
was
not
shared
prior
to
that
reappointment
and
so
I
think
it's
an
important
distinction.
I
wanted
to
make
this
sort
of
category
we're
in
now
considering
for
cause
removal,
as
opposed
to
considering
whether
or
not
to
appoint
someone
or
reappoint
them
in
the
first
place.
J
I
think
the
much
more
complicated
issue,
including
constitutional
rights
claims
or
how
due
process
and
First
Amendment
would
not
have
been
implicated.
Had
all
council
members
been
made
aware
of
what
some
knew
prior
to
that
appointment,
so
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
some
of
those
issues
and
voice
again
that'll
be
supporting
the
amendment.
Thank
you
or
the
motion
rather.
E
Yes,
I
I,
don't
know
if
council
member
voland
saw
the
staff
recommendation
accompanying
the
motion,
but
our
our
Council
attorney
recommended
that
the
council
postpone
the
formal
decision
so
that
Mr
Alexander
could
be
notified
and
given
the
opportunity
to
submit
comments,
I
I
would
recommend
that
this
is
a
matter
for
the
whole
Council,
not
a
select
committee,
because
I
think
that
this
is
important
for
everyone
to
deliberate
and
debate
and
and
so
I
I
would
recommend
another
motion
that
would
postpone
until
the
15th
so
that
we
can
all
have
the
opportunity
at
that
point
to
debate.
A
Table
well
there
but
motions
take
precedence.
So
additional
first
round
comments
on
the
motion
to
refer.
D
The
I
mean
this
is
the
argument
we've
had
before
the
fact
that
I
mean
the
four
members
of
the
committee
do
not
include
me.
They
include
councilman
Morello
I'm,
not
sure
why
he
thinks
that
the
other
five
members
can't
attend
that
meeting
either
remotely
or
in
person,
or
that
the
council
wouldn't
deliberate
after
the
committee
has
done
its
work.
The
committee
does
not
substitute
the
Judgment
of
the
whole
Council,
it
does
preliminary
work.
It
examines
issues
that
can
be
it
does
triage.
D
D
Not
just
this
one,
let
alone
one
and
which
he's
personally
implicated
so
I
mean
I
I,
find
it
surprising
that
that
he
would
object
to
this,
and
you
know
I
think
that
I
mean
he
personally
moved
in
January
2020
to
postpone
by
six
weeks
the
consideration
of
establishment
of
standing
committees.
I,
don't
see
why
we
shouldn't
take
several
weeks,
especially
considering
that
spring
break
is
in
between
there
to
give
the
committee
a
chance
to
do
its
work.
D
We
managed
to
have
three
meetings
of
the
ad
hoc
committee
on
police
and
fire
headquarters:
Public
Safety
headquarters
within
two
weeks,
I'm,
not
asking
the
committee
to
meet
several
times
a
week
for
a
month,
I'm
asking
them
to
have
a
couple
three
meetings
and
giving
plenty
of
time
for
deliberation
for
thinking
about
it.
Are
we
sure
I
mean,
or
are
we
simply
going
to
take
the
representations
of
whoever
comes
to
the
podium
and
says
well
I
feel
this
way,
and
therefore
you
should
do
what
I
say:
that's
not
cool!
D
Consider
it
deliberation,
that's
not
unemotional.
As
Mr
Flaherty
said,
there's
constitutional
issues
here:
do
we
really
know
them?
Do
we
really
understand
them?
I?
Think
not
so
I
would
strongly
recommend
that
we
take
the
time
to
think
about
it
and
give
the
committee
a
chance
to
do
some
work
and
I
will
attend
those
meetings
because
I'm
interested
in
this
issue.
As
with
all
the
other
issues
of
that
committee,
thank
you.
I
Quickly,
I
have
no
issue
with
having
this
be
a
process,
because
we,
this
is
unprecedented
and
harm
has
been
done.
Harm
has
been
done
to
the
community.
Harm
has
been
done
to
community
engagement,
so
I
think
taking
time
is
good.
Getting
a
process
is
good
because
up
to
now,
our
process
only
deals
with.
If
a
commissioner
who
is
appointed
by
this
body
misses
three
consecutive
meetings,
that's
the
only
grounds
for
dismissal.
Now
we're
in
this
new
situation.
Where
words
have
been
said,
they
have
been
hurtful.
I
They
have
dissuaded
members
of
the
public
from
even
wanting
to
come
forward
to
this
body,
and
so
I
think
there
is
some
timeliness
that
needs
to
be
respected.
If
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
our
process
and
have
a
due
process
for
this
particular
instance,
that
is
harmful
and
people
are
looking
to
us
for
leadership
to
make
sure
this
never
happens
again.
I
A
I
So
I
would
just
recommend
that
if
we
are
going
to
refer
this
to
this
committee
for
the
vetting
and
the
proper
research
and
whatever
we
need
to
do
legally
to
set
higher
standards
for
our
commissioners,
I
think
time
is
of
the
essence
and
I
would
I
would
hope
that
that
could
occur
well
before
March
22nd,
because
damage
has
been
done.
Thank
you.
J
Just
to
note
that
I
would,
as
chair
of
the
committee
I,
would
support
a
returning,
a
recommendation
of
some
kind
by
March
1st
one
month
from
today
so
shorter
or
sooner
than
councilman
Roland
suggestion.
It
would
take
an
amendment
of
the
motion
at
this
point,
which
could
be
done
via
unanimous
consent,
if
not
as
opposed
if
councilman
revolin
agreed.
J
Sorry
I
said,
as
chair
of
the
committee
I
would
support
returning
your
recommendation
by
March
1st
one
month
from
today
a
regular
session
that
evening
and
if
you
were
amenable
to
this
change,
you
could
make
an
amendment
to
your
motion
provided
unanimous
consent
to
do
so.
D
Okay,
my
error
then
I'm
happy
to
amend
my
motion,
but
first
I
want
to
say
if
I
may
speak.
Madam
president,
the
councilmember
sandberg's
got
a
conflict
between
wanting
to
repair
damage
and
wanting
to
not
cause
more
damage.
On
the
other
end,
if
we
make
a
hasty
decision,
constitutional
issues
are
non-trivial
and
we're
not
under
any
particular
deadline,
as
we
were
with
the
January
31st
purchase
agreement
for
showers
Plaza.
D
So
with
all
due
respect,
I,
don't
necessarily
oppose
changing
to
an
earlier
time,
but
I
seriously
question
that
I
mean
there
are
sensibilities,
hurt.
There
are
also
rights
of
citizens
to
speak
and
to
critique
their
government,
and
if
this
is
going
to
be
just
a
a
political
game,
then
you
know
I
think
that
we
should
be
deliberative
so
but
I
will
amend
my
motion
to
March
1st
the
meeting
of
March
1st.
G
Thank
you,
I
think
I
need
a
point
of
clarification
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
that
I
heard
that
this
ad
hoc
committee
will
return
at
some
point
with
a
recommendation.
Is
that
what
I
heard
it.
G
J
G
And
the
recommendation
would
be
supporting
removal
or
not
support.
Is
that
I
guess
I'm
clear,
because
we
just
used
this
committee
and
they
came
back
with
a
report,
but
with
no
recommendation
and
now
we
want
to
do
a
recommendation,
so
I'm
fine
either
way.
I
just
want
to
be
consistent
with
what
we're
talking
about.
If
this
committee
wants
to
do
a
re
investigation,
then
report
I
mean
I'm.
G
A
R
With
the
with
the
recommendation,
I
think
what's
important
here
is
that
the
council
develops
a
process
for
this
type
of
request,
not
just
a
recommendation.
I
think
it's
really
difficult
to
do
something
like
this.
When
we
do
not
have
a
process
set
out
with
like
clear
rules
and
I
guess,
definitions.
J
I'll
build
on
that
and
just
that
I
feel
like
I
appreciate
the
question.
Councilmember
Sims
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
semantic
in
that
I
kind
of
consider
it
one
and
the
same.
J
I
I
would
view
the
committee's
role
as
investigating
and
studying
the
issue
and
reporting
its
findings
and
possibly
recommending
something
if
there
is
agreement
on
on
what
a
recommendation
should
be
with
respect
to
this
issue,
I,
don't
think
that
would
be
limited
to
a
recommendation
on
how
the
council
should
vote
on
the
motion
to
remove
Mr
Alexander
from
the
from
the
traffic
commission.
I.
Think
that
could
include
also
recommendations
on
how
that
the
council
should
handle
such
motions
in
the
future
recommendations
or
reports
on
the
the
issues
implicated.
E
Our
Council
attorney's
opinion
on
some
of
these
matters
number
one
is
that
councilman
voland
says
that
we
have
Liberty
of
time.
Is
that
your?
Would
that
be
your
assessment
that
this
that
we,
that
this
is
a
matter
that
we
could
take
weeks
to
to
determine?
It
seemed
that
previously
we're
recommending
that
we
act
sooner
rather
than
later.
K
My
only
recommendation
with
regard
to
time
is
that
the
council
not
take
formal
action
on
the
motion
to
remove
tonight
our
code,
which,
as
Mr
voland
points
out
really
just
contemplates
absenteeism,
does
include,
in
that
context,
an
opportunity
for
notice
to
the
to
the
board
or
commission
member
and
an
opportunity
for
the
member
to
provide
extenuating
circumstances
in
writing.
In
the
absence
of
any
process,
guidance
beyond
that
I'm
suggesting
that
that
at
least
be
offered
in
this
case
to
to
the
member.
K
E
I
actually
have
a
comment,
and
that
is
that
councilman
volin
has
stated
I
think
inferred
that
I'm
not
a
fair
I,
can't
make
a
fair
decision
that
there's
personal
animus
between
myself
and
and
Mr
Alexander
I
I,
detect
that
there's
personal
Anonymous
from
Mr
Alexander,
but
I
have
none
toward
toward
him.
So,
but
I
will
step
away
from
the
commit
from
that
committee
and
the
council
president
can
appoint
someone
else
because
I
certainly
don't
want
to
be
accused
of
of
making.
You
know.
C
E
Making
an
impartial
decision
so
if,
if
that
would
please
the
council
I'll
step
away
from
that?
That
committee.
D
Think
that
Mr
ollo
has
mischaracterized
one
aspect
of
what
I
said,
while
I
do
believe
that
part
of
the
problem
here
is
that
we're
confusing
personal
feelings
and
political
statements
that
certainly
people
can
be
offended
by
political
statements.
What
I
think
is
the
remit
of
the
committee
is
to
distinguish
obscenity
and
profanity,
which
usually
is
unnecessary,
but
I
mean
again.
Last
week
we
heard
a
council
member
actually
use
profanity.
Okay,
you
know
it's.
D
There,
there's
been
long
debate
over
the
Merit
of
its
use,
all
right
and
on
that
point,
I
believe
that
there
should
be
some
other
method
in
city
code.
Besides
removal
for
for
for
just
the
vague
phrase
for
clause,
and
it's
important
I
mean
this
is
a
very
good
case
where
we
need
to
discuss
it,
but
to
to
to
go
from
there
to
removing
a
duly
appointed
officer.
Are
appointee
rather
is
a
nuclear
option.
D
It's
it's
too
much
too
far,
and
that's
why
it
deserves
study,
but
I
want
to
make
that
distinction
here
that
it
shouldn't
be
about
anyone's
personal
feelings
on
either
side.
It
shouldn't
be
about
how
any
person
feels
if
somebody
is
making
comments
that
seem
threatening
that
seem
threatening
to
others.
We
need
to
address
that
all
right,
but
I
mean
it's
also.
D
An
interpretation
I
mean
because
just
because
someone
says
this
is
wrong,
doesn't
make
it
wrong
the
the
only
way
this
works
is
if
we
collectively
agree
on
a
course
of
action
and
not
simply
react
to
a
few
people
who
are
upset,
however,
deservedly
upset,
they
are
over
what
are
essentially
political
statements
and
distinguish
the
political
statements
from
the
unnecessarily
offensive
statements
that
should
be
censored.
I
Can
assure
you
that
the
political
discussion
about
animus
does
not
apply
to
me.
We
are
public
officials
and
we
are
a
custom
I've
been
on
this
Council.
Now
this
is
my
17th
year
when
we
put
ourselves
in
this
position,
people
are
going
to
say
things
about
us.
They're,
going
to
post
things
on
Facebook,
they're,
going
to
say
things
on
Reddit
they're
going
to
call
us
names
has
nothing
to
do
with
my
position
on
this.
I
This
has
to
you
can
call
me
whatever
you
want
I'm
a
I
can
I
can
handle
that
I
accepted
that
as
part
of
this
job.
This
is
not
anything
related
to
animus
toward
Mr
Alexander.
He
may
have
animus
toward
me,
but
again
as
as
Mr
Rollo
said,
councilmember
Rallo.
That
has
nothing
to
do
with
this
issue.
This
has
to
do
with
a
commissioner
who,
in
my
humble
opinion,
and
it's
more
than
just
a
handful
of
people
by
the
way
who
have
been
offended
by
what
has
happened
here.
I
This
is
a
commissioner
who,
in
the
act
of
the
statements
that
have
been
made,
have
really
caused
the
community
to
feel
not
safe
in
coming
forward
with
stating
their
case
to
defend
things
happening
in
their
neighborhoods
to
ask
for
things
that
they
need
with
relation
to
safety
and
traffic,
and
so
this
is
what
we're
talking
about
here,
to
make
sure
that
someone
in
a
position
of
being
a
commissioner
who
has
responsibilities
to
make
decisions
about
things
and
to
treat
the
public
fairly.
This
is
what
this
is
all
about,
and
it's
unprecedented
I
understand
this.
I
We
don't
have
a
rule
about
how
to
prevent
this
from
happening
in
the
future,
to
where
members
of
our
public
no
longer
feel
safe
coming
for
forward,
in
speaking,
their
lived
experiences
without
being
harassed,
either
online
or
letters
being
sent
to
them
or,
however,
they
have
been
offended.
So
please
do
not
bring
my
feelings
into
this
because
I'm
a
big
person,
you
can
call
me
what
you
want.
People
are
free
to
come
up
to
this
Podium
and
say
what
they
want.
This
is
not
a
free
speech
issue.
I
R
Thank
you,
I
just
want
to
get
back
to
my
point
about
creating
a
process
for
questions
like
this
that
we
have
to
answer,
and
the
word
like
taking
something
personally
has
come
up
a
lot
tonight.
But
to
me
it's
more
about
an
objective
versus
subjective
way
of
looking
at
this.
That
I
think
we're
not
at
that
point.
Yet
it
was
a
long
time
ago,
I
think
in
the
1960s,
when
the
Supreme
Court
was
looking
at.
R
What
is
obscenity
and
one
of
the
justices
said:
I'll
know
it
when
I
see
it,
and
so
that
is
when
someone
you
know
is
trying
to
speak
objectively
about
something
that
they
are
kind
of
considering
a
fact
or
event,
but
really
it's
a
very
subjective
approach,
because
there
aren't
a
set
of
parameters
or
rules
in
which
to
like
guide
to
guide
that
decision
and
I.
R
Think
that
is
a
place
where,
like
we
should
stay
out
of
that
subjectivity
as
best
we
can
and
right
now
without
a
process,
we
do
not
have
anything
that
is
objective
to
base
a
removal
or
a
non-removal
on
also
just
a
side
note.
If
we
aren't
talking
about
people
not
feeling
safe
or
not
or
like
feeling
offended
and
not
wanting
to
come
and
speak
in
front
of
counsel,
I
also
think
it
is
offensive.
When
council
members
say
that
a
public
speaker
ruined
the
meeting.
Thank
you.
R
Last
part
I
think
it
is
unwelcoming
and
not
a
good
look
for
Council
Members
when
someone
comes
up
and
makes
a
comment,
and
then
a
council
member
says
that
they
ruined
the
meeting.
Thank
you.
E
Yes,
just
enough
for
the
record,
since
we're
seem
to
be
in
debate
that,
yes,
we
do
need
to
make
a
distinction
between
political
speech
and
bullying
Behavior
as
described
by
residents,
and
that's
why
I
brought
the
motion
forward
because
the
residents
are
residing
in
District
Four.
No,
it
wasn't.
It
wasn't
meant
personally.
I
was
asked
to
to
do
this.
E
The
residents
describe
bullying,
Behavior
intimidation,
harassment
and
that
harassment
alluding
to
sexual
violence,
and
there
is
a
written
record
in
the
form
of
tweets
and
and
reddits.
So
you
can
so
the
committee
could
could
review
that
and
I
would
expect
them
to.
Of
course,
thanks.
F
Well,
the
the
manner
of
speech
is,
is
threatening
and
that's
where
it
breaks
down.
For
me,
it's
threatening
people.
F
So
it
it,
it
went
over
the
line
and
it's
threatening
and
in
our
regulations
we
we
don't
have
anything
that
addresses
that
we
should-
and
so
you
know,
I'm
I
agree
with
council
member
voland
and
council
member
Rosenberger
that
we
need
a
process
and
the
standards
need
to
be
set,
but
I
am
in
favor
of
removing
Mr,
Alexander
and
I.
Don't
have
any
problem
with
seeing
that
the
conduct
is
beyond
the
pale
and
when
you
get
to
threatening
people,
that's
that's
over
the
line,
and
so
that's
that
was
that's.
F
D
So
what
is
to
stop
any
other
citizen
from
stepping
forward
and
saying
I
felt
threatened
by
comments
I
heard
later
on
another
topic:
what's
to
stop
any
I
mean
I,
take
Council
for
sandberg's
point
that
we're
all
adults
here
on
this
Deus
and
we
understand
our
our
role
as
elected
officials.
C
D
D
If
we
have
time,
let
me
know
so
that
I
I
know
how
much
time
I
have,
but
I
do
not
yield
the
it's
the
the
no
matter
how
self-evident
they
may
be
to
any
one
of
us.
D
Those
statements
are
still
claims
claims
of
bullying
who
defines
what
bullying
is
I
mean
if
I
go
up
and
say
I
felt
bullied.
Will
the
council
be
as
quick
to
react?
That's
why
we
do
process.
That's
why
we
set
a
process.
Why
we
deliberate
that's,
why
we
agree
to
rules
and
we
try
to
do
the
best
we
can
in
the
laws,
as
we
know
them
and
I
don't
want
to
open
myself
up
or
to
open
up
the
city
to
a
suit,
because
we
unduly
de-appointed
someone
before
their
term
was
up
no
matter.
D
How
merited
I
might
think
that
this
that
disappointment,
the
appointment
whatever
the
word
is,
might
be
so
I
would
caution.
My
colleagues
to
to
think
twice
about
I
mean
basically
the
characterization
of
the
actions
of
Mr
Alexander
are
subjective.
They
are
their
personal
feelings
of
people.
They,
however,
strongly
felt,
however
true
they
may
be
to
them,
and
it
shouldn't
be.
For
us
to
decide
how
people
feel
it
should
be
for
us
to
decide
only
what's
the
right
way
to
proceed
collectively.
D
So
that's
why
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
subjectivity
here.
The
characterization
I
mean
I
think
that
while
there
would
be
far
fewer
people
doing
it,
I
think
that
Mr
eleg
pardon
Mr
Alexander's
points.
All
along
has
been
that
I
mean
he
has
accused
the
neighborhood
of
being
bullies
so
who
decides
who's
a
bully,
and
you
know
we're
we're
just
asking
for
trouble
if
we
want
to
try
to
define
those
terms
more
than
what
national
and
state
figures
have
already
done,
I
think
it's
above
our
our
pagri.
D
I
Cannot
recall
in
my
entire
tenure
on
this
Council
anything
like
this
happening
again
happening
before,
because
for
the
most
part,
when
we
appoint
people
to
our
boards
and
commissions,
they
submit
applications.
We
interview
them.
We
appoint
them
in
good
faith
that
they
have
the
skills
and
they
have
the
ability
to
serve
and
serve
well.
This
is
the
first
I've
ever
heard
of
any
of
our
commissioners,
feeling
being
so
offensive
to
members
of
the
public
who
have
had
to
come
before
that
commission.
I
So
the
very
fact
that
this
is
an
unprecedented
situation,
and
maybe
someone
can
bring
to
my
attention,
someone
else
who
has
served
in
a
capacity
and
been
reported
back
to
us
as
being
this
person
is
beyond
defensive.
This
person
is
actually
threatening
bullying.
The
very
fact
that
this
is
the
first
time
we've
been
confronted
with
this
I
think
I'm
fine,
taking
the
time
to
vet
it
to
make
sure
we
have
rules
in
place.
That
again,
my
goal
is
that
this
does
not
happen
again,
because
for
in
my
experience
this
is
a
first.
A
Council,
member
Smith,
okay,
no
I'm
good,
if
not
I'll,
take
a
turn.
Thank
you
to
my
colleagues
for
this
discussion
and
debate.
It's
been
helpful
to
me
to
kind
of
sort
through
this
as
I
sit
and
I.
Think
about
this
situation.
I
think
in
terms
of
my
obligations
as
a
council,
member
and
I
think
they
are.
They
are
twofold.
A
First
of
all
there
there
is
a
current
present
acute
issue
and
that
we
have
had
concerns
presented
to
us
by
members
of
the
public
who
feel
diminished
in
their
ability
to
participate
in
our
processes
because
they
feel
intimidated
because
they
feel
threatened.
I
think
we
have
an
obligation
to
respond
to
that
in
a
timely
way.
A
A
I
doubt
it'll
be
the
last
and
whether
it
is
this
particular
group
of
individuals
that
has
to
make
a
decision
in
the
future
or
the
next
Council
or
the
council.
After
that,
it
would
not
surprise
me
at
all
if
this
issue
came
up
again
in
the
future,
civility
doesn't
seem
to
be
an
issue.
A
That's
resolved
itself
in
our
society,
so
I
think
the
second
part
of
our
my
obligation
as
a
council
member,
is
also
to
think
long
term
and
to
think
about
putting
in
place
processes
that
allow
us
to
respond
to
this
with
Clarity
and
integrity
in
the
future,
as
well.
A
To
do
this
work
I
would
not
be
supportive
of
extending
it
Beyond
March
1st
I
think
we
have
an
obligation
to
think
intentionally
about
process
I
think
we
also
have
an
obligation
to
respond
in
a
timely
way
and
that
may
accelerate
what
was
a
planned
schedule
of
meetings,
but
so
be
it.
In
my
perspective,
those
are
my
comments,
additional
comments.
D
The
motion
is
to
refer
this
matter
to
the
special
committee
on
Council
processes
for
a
recommendation
no
later
than
the
March
1st
special
regular
session
of
council.
C
A
E
B
G
A
B
A
C
B
Ordinance
2302
to
amend
Title
II
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code,
entitled
Administration
and
Personnel
regarding
a
transfer
from
chapter
2.21,
Department
of
Law
to
chapter
2.23,
community
and
family
resources
department.
The
synopsis
is
as
follows:
this
ordinance
amends
Title
II
of
the
Bloomington
municipal
code
and
comes
forth
at
the
request
of
the
city
legal
department
and
of
the
community
and
family
resources
department.
The
ordinance
moves,
the
human
rights
ordinance
from
chapter
2.21
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code
Department
of
Law
to
chapter
2.23
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code
community
and
family
resources
department.
S
Good
evening,
council
members,
Corporation
Council,
Beth,
Cates
I
I'm,
just
going
to
introduce
then
briefly
describe
the
ordinance
and,
as
you
mentioned
director,
calendar
Anderson
is
here
as
well
with
some
comments
and
will
be
available
to
answer
questions.
Michael
Sherman
is
here
and
Audrey
birdingham,
we'll
sort
of
go
through
that
lay
of
the
land.
First
I
want
to
give
my
thanks
to
Stephen,
especially
Ash,
for
their
help
with
the
materials
that
you
have
on
this
issue,
including
particularly
the
redlined
code
version
in
support
of
this
ordinance.
S
So
the
ordinance
basically
shifts
the
Human
Rights
Commission
in
the
Bloomington
municipal
code
from
chapter
2.21,
the
Law
Department
to
chapter
2.23,
cfrd
and
transfers
the
non-legal
HRC
functions
to
the
cfrd.
I
would
just
note
that
legal
and
cfrd
have
worked
closely
together
for
years
on
Ada
issues.
This
will
effectively
create
the
same
Dynamic
on
the
other
issues
under
the
human
rights
ordinance.
We
feel
that
it
will
allow
a
more
efficient
use
of
legal
resources
and
also
and
critically
expand
opportunities
for
education
and
integration
with
other
cfrd
community
engagement
and
programming
efforts.
S
So
those
are
the
major
I
I
would
say
sort
of
impetuses
behind
this
change.
Bloomington
is
justly
proud
of
its
long
tradition
of
high
scores
on
the
municipal
equality
index,
I'm,
going
to
give
a
shout
out
to
Barbara
McKinney
for
all
of
her
amazing
work
and
our
eight
years
of
perfect
scores
in
that
regard.
We
are
confident
this
will
continue
with
these
changes
and
that
all
of
the
efforts
will
be
as
robust
under
this
changed.
If
you
will
structure,
as
they
were
before,
just
to
note
on
the
legal
side
that
this
will
continue.
S
So
I
just
want
to
briefly
introduce
one
of
our
newest
colleagues
in
the
legal
department,
Audrey
britting
him
who
has
taken
over
for
there.
She
has
was
taken
over
for
the
Barbara
in
supporting
the
Human
Rights
Commission
and
in
supporting
Human
Resources
as
well
she's
doing
a
terrific
job
she's
been
with
us
since,
just
before
the
end
of
2022.
S
and
comes
through
us
from
mellor
grodner.
She
also
volunteers
on
the
casa
board.
She
has
interned
in
externed
at
Legal
Services,
as
well
as
the
local
courts,
and
she
is
a
published
author
on
a
couple
of
topics
of
great
interest,
including
ranked
Choice
voting,
which
I
think
is
a
topic
well
worthy
of
interest
in
our
country.
S
So
in
any
case,
we're
delighted
to
have
Audrey
here
to
help
she's
already
provided
considerable
help
to
the
commission
and
certainly
to
the
Law
Department.
One.
Last
thing
that
I
want
to
note
is
in
the
code.
You
will
have
seen
this
sorry
in
the
proposed
ordinance
and
in
the
red
line
version
of
the
code.
There
are
also
some
minor
stylistic
changes
that
have
been
proposed
to
the
code
and
I
won't
go
into
detail
on
what
those
are,
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
about
any
of
those
as
well.
S
My
memo
and
I
believe
councils
council's
memo.
Men
mentioned
that
this
may
also
involve
at
a
later
date
a
merger
of
the
county
and
City
Human
Rights
commissions
were
still
in
negotiations
with
the
county.
They
had
approached
us
about
that.
I
think
everyone
is
is
on
board
with
the
idea
of
it.
We
are
trying
to
work
through
some
Financial
contribution
issues
and
just
get
that
sorted
out,
so
we
may
be
back
to
you
with
that
at
a
later
date.
Okay,
but
that
is
not
part
of
what
you're
looking
at
here
tonight.
T
Good
evening,
council
members
I'm
Beverly
calendar
Anderson,
director
of
the
community
and
Family
Resources
Department.
If
this
is
approved
tonight,
cfrd
is
looking
forward
to
the
transition
of
the
Human
Rights
Commission
to
our
department.
It's
a
great
fit
with
the
work
that
the
department
currently
does
with
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
Community,
accessibility
and
Justice.
T
As
was
previously
said,
it
expands
opportunities
for
CS
cfrd
to
more
seamlessly
integrate
and
expand
our
programming
in
in
that
area
of
diversity,
inclusion
and
Justice
internally
we're
prepared
to
shift
program
duties
so
that
Michael
shermis
is
available
to
take
on
the
responsibilities
that
would
come
with
this
transition
and
Michael
has
worked
closely
in
the
past
with
Barbara
McKinney,
and
we
look
forward
to
building
on
the
excellent
Foundation
that
she's
left
and
to
continue
working
with
both
the
legal
staff
and
other
cfrd
staff
as
we
move
forward.
So
we
are
prepared
to
answer
any
questions.
A
D
Thank
you.
This
is
very
interesting
and
I'm
very
encouraged
by
it.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
to
what
extent
would
you
say
collectively
that
this
is
is
am
I
correct
in
saying
that
this
is
an
expansion
of
the
human
rights
function
overall
at
the
city
that
there's
more
resources
being
given
to
addressing
human
rights
as
a
result
of
this
change.
U
You
should
tell
us:
my
name
is
Michael
Sherman
I'm,
the
special
project
coordinator
in
the
community
and
family
resources,
department
and
I'm,
looking
forward
to
the
full
transition
that
I'll
be
able
to
take
over
the
duties
of
the
human
rights
commission
as
its
director
I
guess.
I
would
answer
that
question
by
saying
that
Barbara
McKinney
did
a
fantastic
job
over
the
years.
U
U
That's
I
think
a
very
important
part
of
what
it
can
do
to
reach
more
of
the
community
and
to
ensure
that
people
who
do
feel
there
are
incidents
of
bias
and
and
hate
crimes
and
discrimination
and
fair
housing
and
all
of
those
kind
of
things
get
voice
and
I
think
maybe
some
of
them
don't
because
they
don't
know,
we
really
exist
and
what
we
do
and
so
I
would
say
it
will
expand
in
that
areas.
Is
that
answer
the.
D
Question
it's
a
good
start,
but
I
guess
I'd
follow
I
mean,
first
of
all,
it's
perfectly
appropriate.
Just
I'm
talking
about
the
more
pragmatic
aspect
of
a
more
person
hours
are
being
devoted
to
the
overall
effort.
There's
not
just
legal
counsel.
There's
now
proactive,
there's
more
more
employee
time
to
do
this
kind
of
proactive
work
that
Ms
McKinney
simply
didn't
have
time
to
do.
Is
that
a
safe
characterization.
T
So
this
won't
be
a
full-time
position.
I
mean
it's
not
a
40-hour
week.
Being
Human,
Rights
director
so
but
it'll
be
about
50
percent
of
what
Michael
does
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
hours
were
that
Barbara
had
in
the
past,
but
the
way
we
the
way
that
we
have
looked
at
it
and
scheduled
it
out
before
yeah,
so
so,
but
but
what
I
will
say
is
that
by
bringing
human
rights
to
cfrd,
we
also
have
that,
because
we
have
safe
and
civil
City.
We
have
Latino
Outreach.
T
D
C
V
Absolutely
I'm
Audrey
birdingham,
it's
nice
to
meet
everyone,
I
I'd,
say
at
this
point:
the
Human
Rights
Commission
and
research
dedicated
to
the
Human
Rights
Commission,
will
probably
take
approximately
I'd
say
at
most
a
quarter
of
my
time.
V
That's
and
that's
I'd
say
if
we're,
including
the
contract
compliance
committee,
which
deals
with
the
affirmative
action
plans,
then
it's
probably
more
that's
closer
to
probably
40
percent
of
my
time.
If,
if
I'm,
including
contract
compliance
within
it,.
D
I
mean
Miss
McKinney
had
I'm,
not
sure
who
to
ask
this
to
you
or
our
Corporation
Council
Beth
Kate,
but
I
mean
I
understood
that
Ms
McKinney
was
it
was
like,
was
all
of
her
50
50
halftime
devoted
to
legal
matters
alone,
or
does
she
also
hear
complaints
and
do
sort
of
ministerial
work
I'm,
not
sure
who
would
answer
that
yeah.
S
Thank
you,
Corporation
Council,
Beth
Kate.
So,
yes,
her
time
was
spent
on
a
combination
of
all
of
the
above.
So
she
did
the
educational
piece.
She
did
the
investigations
and
she
did
the
additional
legal
piece
of
advising
the
commission
as
well.
So
what
will
shift
here
is
that
the
she's
no
longer
she
was
the
human
rights
director.
She
was
in
that
position.
That
position
will
now
be
occupied
by
Michael
shermis,
and
the
investigation
piece
of
that
is
something
then
that
he
will
take
on
Audrey's.
S
Time
will
be
sort
of
really
devoted
to
assisting
in
terms
of
what
the
legal
standards
are,
whether
or
not
they're
likely
to
be
met
in
a
particular
case
or
not
for
probable
cause.
So
it
is
a
reduced
amount
of
time.
So.
D
G
You're
fine,
thank
you,
I,
don't
know
who
this
should
go
to,
but
with
a
discussion
of
time
or
anticipated
time
of
Staff
time,
is
it
safe
to
say
that
since
now
the
city
will
be
investigating
human
rights
complaints
in
the
unincorporated
parts
of
the
city?
Have
we
discussed
that?
What
do
we
anticipate
with
any
additional
time
in
that
particular
area.
S
Thank
you,
council,
member
Sims,
so
that
would
come
if
we
do
the
merger
with
the
county
and
in
terms
of
our
expectations
of
caseload.
We
really
don't
know
yet
what
to
expect,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
build
into
what
would
be
an
interlocal
agreement
with
the
county,
the
ability
to
kind
of
adjust
what
their
contribution
may
be
over
time,
depending
on
what
the
caseload
is,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
things
we're
talking
about.
S
G
Thank
you
for
pulling
on
the
reins.
I
got
ahead
of
myself
as
well.
Thank
you.
It's
two
different
things,
but
something
I
think
that
is
in
the
Wheelhouse
that
Mr
Sherman's
could
help
me
with
I.
Think
you
discussed
taking
the
lead
on.
You
can
come
up
to
yeah,
you
discussed
taking
the
leads
on
human
rights,
education
and
some
of
the
things
that
attorney
McKinney
used
to
do
but
wanted
to
do
more
and
you
think
we
can
so.
Can
you
just
give
us
an
example
of
what
some
of
that
education
would
be.
U
Yeah
sure
I
think
there
are
probably
more
opportunities
to
reach
people
in
schools,
I
think
other
Civic
groups
that
are
out
there
need
to
know
more
about
our
services
and,
what's
available,
I
have
no
fear
of
connecting
with
them
and
talking
with
them
and
making
the
services
more
known.
Those
would
be
just
a
couple
obvious
things,
there's
probably
other
ways
of
publicizing
what
it
is
that
we
do
in
various
newsletters
and
things
like
that
too.
So
that
are
just
some
of
the
ideas.
G
A
K
D
Yeah
I'm
very
encouraged
by
this
ordinance.
It
reminds
me
of
kind
of
a
predecessor
event,
which
was
the
transformation
into
the
if
I'm.
If
I
remember
this
correctly
into
the
commission
on
the
status
of
Children
and
Youth
of
what
used
to
be
called
the
Community
Family
Resources
Commission,
when
it
was
formed,
there
was
no
cfrd.
D
D
But
there's
I
mean
you
can
tell
how
much
work
somebody
has
done
by
how
many
people
it
takes
to
replace
them
when
they
retire
and
I
really
believe
here
that
we're
replacing
one
person
with
two
Barbara
McKinney
did
heroic
work
for
decades,
skillfully,
basically
inventing
a
function
that
is
now
becoming.
Let's
call
it
a
division
of
two
departments:
joint
division,
I'm,
actually
looking
forward
to
the
prospect
that
the
human
rights
function
of
the
city
would
merge
with
the
county.
D
I
think
that's
logical
and
would
be
more
efficient
in
addressing
the
many
needs
of
attending
to
Human
Rights
matters,
so
I'm
going
to
be
enthusiastically
voting
for
this
I
want
to
welcome
our
new
attorney
and
good
luck
to
them
both
and
perform
this
function,
and
thanks
to
the
Departments
for
their
good
work
and
once
again,
a
tribute
to
the
work
of
Barbara
McKinney
that
this
ordinance
is
here
tonight.
Thank
you.
E
D
A
K
C
A
W
Great
thanks,
my
name
is
Greg
Alexander
I've
been
hearing
this
phrase
over
engineered
a
lot
lately.
So
I
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
highlight
some
examples.
W
It's
really:
oh
there
we
go
sorry.
This
is
an
upper
floor
of
the
trades
District
Garage
on
Monday
at
2
pm,
the
garage
is
19
occupied.
Even
the
lower
floors
are
mostly
empty.
There's
another
empty
floor
above
this
one.
It
costs
12
million
dollars
to
build.
That's
our
money
it's
over
engineered
because
it's
built
for
a
demand
that
doesn't
exist.
Yet
the
city
recently
agreed
to
spend
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
Outreach
to
beg
people
to
park
in
this
garage.
Next
slide,
please.
W
This
is
the
intersection
of
17th
and
Crescent,
just
east
of
the
bridge
over
I-69.
It
was
built
by
indot
and
as
a
matter
of
course,
it
was
also
designed
in
anticipation
of
future
demand
that
doesn't
exist
yet
I,
don't
know
if
the
photo
can
capture
just
how
insanely
huge
this
intersection
is.
I
would
call
it
over
engineered
for
cars
next
slide,
please,
but
maybe
it's
more
fair
to
say
it's
under
engineered
for
safety.
When
intersections
are
this
large
and
forgiving
for
drivers,
they
stop
paying
attention.
W
They
become
Reckless
and
destructive
to
drive
off
the
road.
Next
slide,
please.
This
is
the
bike
lane
on
Walnut
near
12th,
Street
I'm,
standing
about
where
Nate
Stratton
was
killed.
Last
September,
this
bike
lane
is
under
engineered
paint,
is
not
protection
driver
speed.
Here
cars
are
often
in
the
bike
lane.
This
bike
lane
is
dangerous
to
the
people
who
use
it
on
top
of
that
it
discourages
people
from
bicycling.
While
the
bike
lane
is
under
engineered,
you
might
call
the
car
facility
over
engineered
look
how
big
that
space
is
next
slide.
Please.
W
This
is
the
new
sidewalk
on
14th
Street,
which
came
from
the
council
sidewalk
budget.
It
is
just
one
side
of
one
block:
475
feet
long
and
costs
210
000,
that's
about
450
bucks,
a
foot,
that's
a
reasonable
amount.
Civil
infrastructure
really
is
expensive,
but
it's
just
the
sidewalk,
no
traffic
calming
no
Crossings
no
bike
facility.
I
will
not
bike
with
my
kids
on
14th
Street
next
slide.
Please.
W
W
This
Seventh
Street
Greenway
and
the
Graham
Drive
Greenway
more
than
a
mile
altogether,
so
the
cost
is
actually
100
bucks,
a
foot,
that's
value
engineering.
It
covers
four
times
the
distance
than
if
they
were
installing
sidewalks
on
just
one
side
of
the
street.
Instead
of
installing
sidewalk
and
drainage,
they
address
the
root
safety
problem
faced
by
all
users
of
the
street.
They
slowed
down
cars.
W
Now
it's
safer
and
more
convenient
for
everybody,
so
Greenways
go
a
lot
further
compared
to
just
installing
sidewalks
and
they
deliver
a
lot
of
things.
Sidewalk
only
project
can't
that's
why
they
were
selected
for
the
city's
low
stress
Network,
which
aims
to
cover
about
20
miles
within
six
years.
That's
the
sort
of
build
out
necessary
to
make
a
connected.
Network
anyways
I
have
a
bit
of
time.
So
I
want
to
take
this
opportunity.
I
apologize
for
making
people
feel
threatened.
People
are
saying
that
they
thought
I
was
going
to
violate
them
personally
over
at
Greenway.
W
If
they're
saying
that
it's
enough
for
me
to
know,
I
did
something
wrong.
I
regret
my
failures,
but
I
also
want
to
be
absolutely
clear
about
something.
I,
do
not
regret
using
vitriolic
language
to
describe
destructive
conduct
by
elected
officials
if
showing
respect
to
elected
politicians
when
they're
causing
harm
is
requirement
of
being
on
a
commission,
you
should
have
told
me:
I
wouldn't
have
applied
just
in
the
last
three
months.
W
The
council
is
privileged
a
select
group
of
citizens
with
the
ability
to
bypass
commissions,
to
overrule
staff
and
to
speak
longer
and
more
often
than
other
citizens
they've
been
given
a
second
bite
at
the
Apple
and
used
it
to
attack
people
who
only
got
the
single
regular
opportunity
for
a
public
comment.
This
is
new.
This
is
devastating.
This
is
contemptible.
The
council's
own
conduct
substantively
diminishes
the
ability
for
members
of
the
public
to
contribute
and
I
also
do
not
regret
responding
with
hostility.
W
A
Twitter
user
initiated
contact
with
me
and
in
her
very
first
message,
she
impugned
my
motives:
I'm,
not
ashamed
of
meeting
hostility
with
hostility
on
twitter.com
I
think
it
is
marvelous
honestly,
if
there's
a
forum
where
people
are
free
to
contact
me
without
hiding
their
hostility,
I
get
a
lot
more
honesty
that
way,
but
I'm
going
to
participate
in
that
Forum
that
dialogue's
valuable,
even
though
it's
hostile
but
seriously
y'all.
As
long
as
over
engineered
car
facilities
are
soaking
up.
So
many
resources
we
need
to
aggressively
pursue
the
Greenways
program
there.
W
A
Q
Yes,
my
name
is
Natalia
Galvin.
Some
of
our
council
members
have
served
for
many
years
almost
decades
that
there
is
no
existing
code
or
process
for
rescinding
a
council.
Appointment
is
a
failure
of
city
council
leadership,
especially
by
those
who
have
served
multiple
terms:
the
2022,
Council
leadership,
Reserve,
documentation
of
Mr
Alexander's,
toxic
words
and
exchanges
in
November
of
22
well
before
the
January
reappointment.
That
is
not
the
Public's
fault
that
they
did
not
share
that
information
with
the
rest
of
the
council.
Q
Today's
meeting
was
grossly
disappointing
that
this
discussion
turned
into
defining
what
bullying
is
whose
feelings
are
hurt.
There
are
Pages
documenting
Mr
Alexander's,
egregious
online
Behavior
directed
at
people
who
are
simply
advocating
or
supporting
people
that
advocate
for
their
neighborhoods
that
a
council
member
is
other
citing
this
argument
is
a
gross
mischaracterization
of
what
is
at
hand
here.
Using
rape
terms
is
always
wrong.
Using
threatening
and
stalking
terms
is
always
wrong.
There
is
no
political
argument
here.
This
is
a
right
and
wrong
issue.
Q
Further
I
suggested
the
council
reach
out
to
the
Indiana
coalition
to
end
sexual
assault
and
human
trafficking
to
educate
themselves
and
how
to
create
a
culture
that
promotes
Norms
of
equity
consent
and
safety,
for
all.
Silence
is
complicity
allowing
this
egregious
Behavior
to
stand
for
another
month
and
other
citing
this
behavior
is
complicity.
No
one
deserves
to
be
bullied
for
advocating
for
their
neighborhood,
and
certainly
they
do
not
deserve
to
be
bullied
by
a
council
appointed
commissioner.
Leadership
failed
Us
in
November.
Leadership
failed
Us
in
January,
and
they
failed
us
again
today.
A
K
Yes,
thank
you
just
two
items
to
note.
First,
the
council's
sidewalk
committee
is
scheduled
to
meet
tomorrow
at
2
30
p.m.
So
four
of
you
will
be
here
in
the
hooker
conference
room
upstairs
to
kick
off
that
process.
Also,
the
council,
as
you
see
tonight,
had
no
legislation
for
first
reading.
There
is
no
business
scheduled
for
next
week's
regular
session.
So
if
the
council
wants
to
consider
a
motion
to
cancel
next
week's
meeting,
it
would
be
appropriate
to
do
so
now.
E
And
president
I
I
move
that
we
cancel
our
regular
session
meeting
scheduled
for
February
8th.