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A
A
There
we
go
so
thank
you
very
much.
Looking
ahead
to
the
agenda,
we'll
begin
with
the
approval
of
minutes,
we
have
three
sets
tonight
to
review
and
approve
we'll
then
move
into
reports,
reports
by
council
members
by
the
mayor
and
city
offices
and
by
Council
committees.
We'll
then
move
into
our
first
period
of
public
comment,
followed
by
appointments
to
boards
and
commissions,
we'll
then
move
into
legislation
for
second
readings
and
resolutions.
A
For
Public
Safety
facilities
and
paying
miscellaneous
costs
in
connection
with
the
foregoing
and
the
issuance
of
said
bonds
and
sale
thereof,
and
approving
an
agreement
of
the
Bloomington
Redevelopment
commission
to
purchase
certain
property,
we'll
then
move
into
legislation
for
first
readings.
Under
that
heading
we
have
ordinance
23-02
to
amend
Title
II
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code,
entitled
Administration
and
Personnel
regarding
a
transfer
from
chapter
2.21,
Department
of
Law
to
chapter
2.23,
community
and
family
resources
department.
A
G
F
H
H
H
H
We
just
as
many
people
know,
turned
down
the
commissioner's
proposal
for
relocated
the
jail
to
his
side
and
Fullerton
Pike.
We
didn't
re-zone
that
we
thought
it
was
inappropriate,
but
it
seems
like
the
Commissioners
are
also
not
really
even
listening
to
the
committee
that
they
convened
this
week.
They,
it
was
pointed
out
to
them
by
April
Wilson
that
they
claimed
that
the
principles
of
the
cgrc
are
that
recognizing
our
commitment
to
Public
Safety.
H
H
The
three
Commissioners
amended
the
membership
of
the
cjrc,
to
remove
two
judges
and
to
add
a
commissioner
that
commissioner,
was
then
named
the
chair
of
the
meeting
that
we
this
week,
that
change
in
the
membership
of
the
cgrc
was
not
on
their
agenda,
not
on
their
work
session
packet,
not
read
aloud
during
the
meeting,
so
that
was
a
good
example
of
lack
of
transparency.
H
The
meeting
itself
was
canceled
on
Thursday
but
then
revived
on
Monday.
It
made
it
difficult
for
the
sheriff
to
make
a
presentation
because
they
had
rehearsed
and
expected
to
meet
Monday
that
was
canceled,
then
re
and
then
uncanceled
and
the
sheriffs
themselves
said
said
that
there
were
many
issues
that
she
said
that
required
their
attention
that
were
not
included
in
their
agenda.
H
The
agenda
was
amended
very
late
that
day,
I
think
if,
if
we
were
to
conduct
our
meetings
in
this
way
without,
for
example,
minimum
48
hours
notice
or
a
vote
on
changes
to
an
agenda,
I
think
we
will
be
rightly
chastised.
H
But
then
the
very
question
of
what
kind
of
body
is
the
cgrc.
It's
called
a
committee,
but
I
mean
a
committee
which
we've
discussed
many
times
in
Chambers
is
a
subset
of
a
whole
body.
This
is
really
more
of
a
border
commission,
but
commissioner
Thomas
said
that
to
create
bylaws
for
this
to
make
it
a
border.
Commission
would
be
a
waste
of
time.
H
So
it
seems
like
it's
a
very
arbitrary
exercise
that
the
Commissioners
are
conducting
and
more
than
one
person
talked
about
how
it's
creating
silos
of
information
and
overall
I
think
that
it's
a
very
poor
process
to
to
develop
a
new
jail
under
and
frankly,
with
a
jail.
That's
been
under
a
consent
decree
a
court
order
for
14
years.
It
seems
very
difficult
to
accept
that
the
Commissioners
are
seriously
pursuing
the
most
practical
jail
and
I.
Think
that's
because
their
biggest
issue
is
they're.
H
Unwilling
there's
been
no
mention
at
all
of
them,
perhaps
doing
so
in
the
center
of
the
city,
perhaps
because
they
think
it's
too
expensive.
That
doesn't
mean
that
the
jail
needs
to
be
rehabbed.
I
agree
that
I
mean,
after
seeing
the
presentation
by
the
sheriffs
today
that
the
jail
is
beyond
saving,
but
if
there
had
been
more
Good
Will
between
the
Commissioners
and
the
administration,
for
example,
if
there
have
been
a
willingness
to
collaborate,
more
often
perhaps
I
mean
I.
H
I
would
like
to
see
the
city
offer
two
or
three
acres
of
land
in
Hopewell
for
a
jail.
Maybe
there's
a
couple
of
Acres
that
the
county
owns
for
a
Convention
Center
that
could
be
repurposed.
Do
they
really
need
five
whole
acres
to
accomplish
their
goal,
to
accomplish
the
goal
that
we
all
have
of
improving
the
the
jail,
but
I
mean
that
kind
of
Comedy
is
not
in
order
between
City
and
County
right
now,
or
not
really
available.
H
So
I'm
very
disappointed
to
see
these
developments
I'm
very
eager
for
the
Commissioners
to
recognize
that
just
in
the
room,
they've
already
gathered
are
a
dozen
or
more
people
with
a
direct
interest
in
the
justice
system
who
they
seem
to
only
be
technically
paying
attention
to,
but
they're,
not
really
taking
their
suggestions
seriously
and
I
would
urge
them
to
start
taking
the
suggestions
seriously.
Of
all
the
other
County
officials
that
are
trying
to
help
them
solve
the
problem
of
our
justice
system.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you.
Madam
chair
I
have
no
report
this
evening.
However,
I
would
like
to
go
on
record
to
say
that
I
totally
agree
with
council
member
Bolens
state
that
he
just
gave.
Thank
you.
F
F
I
think
it
might
be
advisable
for
us
in
in
the
future
for
Council
committees
those
that
meet
to
decide
on
to
to
interview
and
decide
on
appointments.
The
boards
and
commission
commissions
that
these
nominees
selected
by
them
be
sent
by
memo
or
placed
in
our
packet
addendum
for
our
review.
Before
the
meetings
I
spoke
to
clerk
Bolden
about
this
it
could
be.
Perhaps
this
could
be
Advanced
by
a
team
member
or
in
coordination
with
Stephen
Lucas
or
perhaps
the
clerk's
office,
yet
to
be
determined
in
any
case.
F
F
A
L
L
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
heard
the
definition
of
insanity
is
doing
the
same
thing
over
and
over
again
expecting
a
different
result.
We've
had
two
mass
shootings
in
California,
which
has
some
of
the
strictest
gun
laws
in
the
United
States
within
the
last
week,
and
you
know
offering
thoughts
and
prayers
isn't
going
to
do
it.
I
mean
whatever
we're
doing
now
is
not
working
and
it
is.
L
We
are
unique
in
the
world
in
the
number
of
guns
and
the
lack
of
restrictions
on
on
gun
on
the
acquisition
of
firearms,
we
must
have
common
sense,
gun
control
in
this
country.
I
urge
people
at
the
state
house
and
in
our
federal
government
to
stop
with
the
about
thoughts
and
prayers.
Let's
actually
control
who
can
have
these
weapons,
what
kind
of
weapons
they
can
have
and
while
we're
at
it,
let's
actually
fund
mental
health
care.
L
As
for
local
things,
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
council
member
volan
made
regarding
the
community.
Just
Community
Justice
response
committee
I've
been
attending
their
meetings.
I've
talked
to
two
out
of
the
three
Commissioners
directly
to
request
that
a
member
of
the
city
government
be
allowed
to
participate
on
the
committee.
Increasingly,
it
seems,
like
even
participants
on
the
committee,
are
not
being
heard
and
we
have
not
been
the
public.
L
Neither
the
public
nor
the
committee
has
been
apprised
of
the
actual
road
map
of
how
the
Commissioners
intend
to
move
forward
and
at
what
point
public.
The
public
can
actually
have
their
voices
heard
as
various
as
well
as
various
interest
groups.
So
there
is
no
road
map
and
it's
well.
It's
highly
dysfunctional
in
addition
to
that,
I
am
I
was
shocked
and
appalled
by
the
horrendous
conditions
in
the
current
jail,
as
detailed
in
the
presentation
given
by
our
new
sheriff
Ruben
Marte
on
Monday
I
mean
we're
talking
about.
L
You
know,
oozing
green
slime
that
they
don't
even
know
what
it
is.
We're
talking
about
spaces
between
grates
and
windows
that
have
not
been
cleaned
since
the
jail
was
opened
because
it
was,
you
have
to
dismantle
the
screen
to
get
in
there.
We're
talking
about.
You
know
feces
and
urine
collecting
in
in
cells
and
racist
graffiti
and
hateful
graffiti
on
in
multiple
places.
L
It
is
a
dereliction
of
Duty
by
our
former
Sheriff
Brad
Swain
that
he
let
things
get
to
this
point.
I,
don't
think
he's
the
first,
but
he's
the
most
recent
Sheriff
who
has
overseen
these
horrendous
conditions
and
not
done
anything
to
improve
them
and
I
as
a
as
a
resident
as
a
representative
of
the
residents
of
Bloomington
I
am
tremendously
horrified
about
what
has
been
allowed
to
happen
at
the
jail,
so
I'm,
very,
very
glad
that
Sheriff
Marte
has
brought,
and
his
deputies
have
brought
this
to
the
Public's
attention.
L
I
am
very
pleased
that
they
are
actively
working
to
improve
the
jail
conditions
to
the
best
of
their
abilities
with
the
budget.
They
have
I
think
we
as
a
community
need
to
put
a
high
priority
on
giving
them
funding
so
that
they
can
make
it
habitable,
while
The
Saga
of
to
build
a
new
jail
or
not
and
where
it
should
be
and
who
should
be
involved
continues.
L
While
all
these
conversations
happen
in
the
comfort
of
the
Monroe
County
Courthouse,
we
have
residents
who
are
being
held
in
inhumane
conditions
as
we
speak.
So
that's
my
report.
Thank
you.
C
I
think
what
is
missing
and
I
agree
with
my
colleagues
that
talking
about
it
is
one
thing
but
actually
sitting
down
and
having
the
opportunity
to
be
Concrete
in
what
we
will
do
about
it.
It
clearly
requires
cooperation
from
city
and
county
and
hoping
that
we
can
get
past
some
of
the
barriers
that
are
keeping
the
conversations
from
being
more
productive.
A
You
I'm
not
aware
of
any
reports
from
mayor
and
city
offices.
Yes,
there
is
welcome.
M
Carmichael
Deputy
Mayor
would
be
extremely
brief
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
all
of
our
city
workers
who
were
out
today
in
the
elements
they
weren't
just
Public
Works
workers,
but
also
our
Public
Safety
workers.
Of
course,
CBU
and
I'm
sure
I've
left
a
bunch
of
people
out,
but
thank
you
to
everybody
who
showed
up
and
kept
us
safe.
They
got
the
roads
cleared
and
the
sidewalks,
and
we
even
had
Crews
downtown
clearing
the
walkways
for
folks,
so
I
just
wanted
to
thank
them
for
being
out
today
in
publicly
publicly
recognizing
them.
Thank
you
great.
A
N
A
O
Excuse
me:
sorry,
my
name
is
Greg
Alexander.
One
of
my
neighbors
asked
for
a
new
four-way,
stop
sign
at
13th
and
Fairview,
specifically
trying
to
slow
traffic
on
13th
Street
and
for
a
moment
it
really
puzzled.
Me
13th
Street
is
the
epitome
of
a
quiet.
Neighborhood
street
I
mean
it's
only
three
blocks.
Long.
O
Last
summer
my
kids
went
to
a
day
camp
and
to
get
there,
my
oldest
Fred
rode
his
own
bike.
We
traveled
an
extra
half
mile
each
way
so
that
we
could
get
the
safety
advantage
of
neighborhood
streets
streets
like
13th
Street.
Every
morning
we
traveled
for
one
block
on
13th
Street
about
300
feet.
We
spent
about
30
seconds
every
morning
on
13th
Street
30
seconds.
That's
a
very
small
amount
of
exposure.
It's
a
fairly
safe
Street.
O
Nonetheless,
one
morning
we're
more
than
halfway
down
that
block
and
I've
already
got
my
arm
out
for
a
left
turn.
Then
I
hear
this
Roar
of
a
car
engine
behind
me
and
I
tried
to
look
this
guy's,
obviously
intending
to
pass
on
the
left.
Even
though
I'm
signaling
left
he
sees
me
I
see
him.
He
is
obviously
playing
chicken
with
me
Fred's
right
in
front
of
me
and
he's
getting
ready
to
make
that
left.
Turn
I,
don't
know.
If
you
understand
the
gravity
of
that
situation.
Fred's
10
Fred
isn't
street
smart.
O
He
doesn't
yet
have
the
habit
of
checking
over
his
shoulder
before
making
a
turn.
Sometimes
you
just
have
to
yell
at
your
kid
I
hate
to
do
it
when
he's
not
doing
anything
wrong.
I
want
cycling
to
be
a
fun
experience
for
him.
I
wanted
to
feel
good
about
his
growing
skills,
but
I
have
no
choice,
so
I
scream
at
him.
O
This
is
too
much
too
fast
for
him
for
most
people,
it's
a
quitting
experience.
They
feel
the
fear
and
the
stress-
and
they
quit
it's
just
too
terrifying.
They
don't
want
to
expose
their
family
to
the
impatient
jerks
that
our
streets
cater
to
they
get
in
their
car,
and
sometimes
they
even
become
that
same
jerk.
O
For
me,
I
think
about
the
engineering
choices
that
encourage
that
kind
of
behavior,
I
think
about
the
simple
changes
which
would
make
it
less
common
and
that's
why
the
Greenways
program
is
important.
Its
purpose
isn't
to
address
our
higher
Injury
Network,
but
to
build
a
comprehensive
network
of
really
high
quality
bike
and
ped
routes.
The
kinds
of
routes
where
children
can
experience
their
first
taste
of
Independence
and
its
implementation
strategy
is
to
use
existing
low
traffic
neighborhood
streets
to
take
a
good
Street
and
make
it
into
a
great
Street.
O
And
there
is
a
14th
Street
Greenway
on
the
map
and
an
extension
through
my
neighborhood
as
well.
The
planners
anticipate
this
exact
problem
and
they
want
to
fix
it.
But
it's
not
part
of
the
high
priority
Network,
because
it's
a
little
further
from
campus
and
downtown
if
you
killed
the
Greenways
program,
if
you
bury
it
under
administrative
overhead,
if
you
retired
its
implementation
to
even
slower
than
the
current
pathetic
rate,
they
will
not
even
get
through
the
high
priority.
O
Network
and
neighborhoods
like
mine,
that
are
a
little
bit
more
distant,
can
just
go
jump
in
a
lake
planning
staff
and
Consultants
are
using
objective
data.
If
you
don't
have
any
idea
to
actually
improve
the
greenway
system,
all
you
can
do
is
get
in
the
way.
Oh
and
the
intersection
of
13th
and
Fairview.
It
has
a
collision
last
July
or
two
julys
ago.
The
objective.
A
Q
Good
evening
Council,
my
name
is
David
sebag
I
live
in
the
current
Fifth
District
and
if
I
read
the
maps
right,
it's
still
going
to
be
the
fifth
district.
Although
we'll
lose
Isabel,
I
think
I
know
most
you
people
most
recently
I
met
Ms
rosenbarger
at
the
Y
and
I
told
her
I
was
going
to
come
address
a
very
important
issue.
I'm
going
to
talk
trash
to
you,
people
we're
going
to
talk
trash
now,
not
on
the
athletic
field,
but
real
trash.
Q
Now,
I
live
alone.
I
don't
generate
that
much
trash
and
recycling.
I.
Don't
have
to
put
my
bins
out
every
week,
but
I
do
because
you're
charging
me
for
them
every
week.
What
I
would
like
is
smaller
bins,
so
I
called
in
and
said
hey
how
about
smaller,
bins,
sure
fifty
dollars.
Why
in
the
hell,
are
you
going
to
charge
me
fifty
dollars
to
exchange
my
trash
and
recycling
bin
come
on
guys,
I
want
to
reduce
my
costs.
So
that's
the
main
reason.
I
came
today.
Q
Another
issue,
though
I
watched
your
meeting
last
week,
the
the
Cuba
resolution
brought
back
wonderful
memories
of
our
Iraq
resolution.
I
forgot
when
we
did
that,
but
it
was
essentially
that
the
Bloomington
city
council
doesn't
want
us
to
go
into
Iraq.
Q
Well,
the
resolution
passed
I
forgot
what
the
vote
was
I
vote
in
favor
of
the
resolutions.
I
thought
was
right
and
but
then
afterwards
I
met
a
good
friend
and
my
friend
said
Bloomington.
He
thought
my
vote
was
wrong
and
the
resolution
was
wrong
because
Bloomington
city
council
does
not
do
foreign
policy
for
the
U.S
government.
Well,
I
understand
that,
but
I
vote
a
yes
for
the
Iraq
resolution
and
I
still
stand
by
their
vote
and
thought
was
a
good
vote.
Thank
you
and
let
me
have
new
trash
bins.
Please.
R
G
Could
the
chair
make
a
ruling
on
whether
or
not
it's
advisable
to
restate
profanity
in
a
public
meeting,
regardless
of
the
quote
I
I
appreciate
what
was
satin's
aim
is,
but
at
the
same
time,
question
the
Prudence
of
repeating
profanity,
that's
off
just
requesting
a
ruling.
Thank
you.
Councilmember.
A
H
Well,
one
of
our
colleagues
actually
used
a
word.
That's
not
allowed
on
TV,
just
during
her
report
on
in
the
absence
of
more
well-defined
rules,
which
this
body
simply
does
not
has
not
ever
taken
up.
I
would
advise
that
we
allow
members
of
the
public
to
speak.
It's
it's
at
the
discretion
of
the
chair
until
we
come
up
with
more
strict
rules.
Thank
you.
Additional.
G
Are
you
in
agreement
with
councilmember
Roland's
suggestion,
then
chair
I'm.
K
R
Your
enlisted
or
discretion
is
advised
the
following.
Our
recent
statements
made
primarily
in
response
to
my
advocacy
for
Public
Safety
in
my
neighborhood
by
a
traffic
commission
member
who
serves
in
an
official
capacity
for
this
city,
who
is
intended
as
a
representation
of
this
city
and
our
values.
R
Haters
Gonna
Hate
and
Bloomington
Democrats
gonna
lick
the
out
from
between
Elm
Heights
neighborhoods
ass
cheeks.
One
of
the
reasons
I
suck
at
organizing
is
I
want
to
tell
people
go
to
the
council
to
help
me
make
the
political
point
that
the
current
nuts
on
there
only
care
about
Elma
Heights.
You
all
understand
that
I'm
Petty
enough
I'm,
counting
down
the
days
until
I,
can
go
collect
video
of
prominent
Elm
Heights
neighbors
running
the
stop
sign
that
they
just
bought.
R
This
final
quote
a
tweet
in
relation
to
the
proposed
Hawthorne
Weatherstone
Greenway
was
deleted
two
days
ago.
It
sounds
like
they
are
going
to
savagely
penetrate
your
neighborhood
and
I
want
to
know
what
they're
going
to
do
with
that.
What
do
you
feel
when
you
hear
the
phrase
savagely
penetrate
when
you
hear
someone
talk
about
shoving
down
your
throat,
something
to
which
you
are
opposed?
R
R
Or
is
it
that
because
it's
me
and
because
I
live
in
Elm
Heights,
it's
okay,
consider
I'm
Not
Elected
I'm,
a
member
of
the
community?
Do
you
think
that
I
pass
my
time,
hula
hooping
in
a
Hostess
dress,
while
vacuuming
and
baking
cakes
in
the
shape
of
stop
signs,
contrary
to
popular
belief,
I,
work
for
a
living,
and
yet
because
of
my
address,
my
value
as
a
neighbor
is
deemed
worthless
and
yet
worthy
of
a
condemnation.
This
is
not
political,
it's
damn
personal!
R
So
please
don't
talk
to
me
about
politics
when
I
have
served,
you
well
as
your
Pawn
wish.
I'd,
rather
be
than
your
protected
proxy
I've
watched
these
efforts
to
shape
Bloomington
into
an
ideological
Corral.
Those
who
do
not
agree
with
a
particular
way
of
being
or
branded
regressive
and
elitist
told
to
sit
down
and
shut
up
made
an
example
of
goaded,
except
that
is
not
who
I'm
willing
to
be,
and
it
is
not
what
I
will
stand
for
in
my
community.
R
The
hatred
of
my
neighborhood
is
blatant.
It's
toxic
and
it's
not
productive.
Don't
talk
to
me
about
how
calling
attention
to
bias
in
our
local
government
is
a
matter
of
political
posturing
by
self-righteous
residents
living
within
some
Untouchable
boundary.
Don't
talk
to
me
about
privilege
when
an
individual
who
has
been
officially
gifted
power
at
that
table
to
serve
all
residents
of
Bloomington
has
been
allowed
to
continue
in
this
official
capacity
without
recourse,
while.
R
T
Thank
you,
hello.
My
name
is
Natalia
Galvin
and
I
live
on
the
near
west
side,
I'm
here
to
ask
Council
to
remove
Mr
Alexander
from
his
Council
appointment
as
a
commissioner
on
the
city's
Bloomington
traffic
Commission
at
the
recommendation
of
presidents
gambillary
in
November
of
22
during
her
constituent
meeting
I
emailed
the
2022
Council
leadership
team,
about
my
concern
about
commissioner
Alexander
serving
on
the
traffic
commission
at
the
pleasure
of
the
city
council
earlier
that
week,
I
had
an
exchange
with
Mr
Alexander
on
Twitter.
T
After
the
stop
sign
vote
on
Maxwell
and
Sheridan
when
he
posted
the
following
quote:
I've,
never
seen
so
much
cowardice
as
when
Israel
Piedmont,
Smith
votes.
Never
has
someone
so
convincingly
explained
that
they
understand
what
a
deep
betrayal
their
vote
is
to
all
that
they
hold
dear
and
so
often
end
quote
further
in
our
exchange.
Mr
Alexander
goes
on
to
say
quote
with
all
due
respect.
Taking
things
away
from
Elm
Heights
is
exactly
how
the
rest
of
the
city
gets.
Help
I
will
not
repeat
Mrs
hatton's
statement.
T
Mr
Alexander
as
a
resident
is
certainly
entitled
to
his
freedom
of
speech.
I've
even
agreed
with
him
on
some
sidewalk
issues,
however,
as
I
serve
at
the
pleasure
of
the
mayor
on
a
commission,
Mr
Alexander
serves
at
the
pleasure
of
City
Council
on
the
traffic
commission
and
in
a
privileged
capacity
as
commissioner.
His
tenor
on
social
media
is
more
than
assertive.
It
is
confrontational
and
bullying.
No
one
should
be
bullied
or
harassed
for
advocating
for
their
neighborhood.
They
definitely
should
not
be
bullied
or
harassed
by
a
council
appointed
commissioner.
T
The
ability
to
be
impartial
as
a
commissioner
is
an
important
one,
whether
I'm
advocating
for
students
of
color
in
fccsc
or
for
better
conditions
in
the
jail.
Whether
you
live
in
the
near
west
side,
in
Crestmont,
in
Broadview,
in
Matlock
Heights
in
Elm,
Heights
in
Maple,
Heights
or
anywhere
else
in
the
city
no
resident
should
be
discriminated
against
because
of
the
area
they
live
in
by
a
council
appointed
commissioner,
and
certainly
no
one
should
be
bullied
or
harassed
by
Council
appointed.
Commissioner.
Thank
you.
A
U
My
name
is
Eric
OST
and
I
want
to
say
that
this
is
not
a
question
of
abrogating
any
individual's
unassailable
right
to
protect
its
speech.
U
In
this
case,
this
case
is
not
ambiguous,
however,
and
there's
precedent
for
you
to
take
on
notice
of
rescinding
an
appointment
to
a
border
commission.
You
are
caretakers
and
Shepherds
of
our
community
system
of
government
and,
by
extension,
the
social
conversation
and
then
all
that
flows
from
being
a
community
of
people
living
in
communion
and
in
a
shared
space.
U
I
thought
about
many
things
today
about
what
I
might
say:
I
think
that
what
we
had
before
us
is.
U
U
I
was
hesitant
to
say
this,
but
I
will
some
of
you,
council
members
have
been
have
been
called
turds
by
the
same
individual
and
there
is
a
person
in
this
community
who
I
believe
has
been
employed
as
a
public
defender
who,
who
said
that
one
of
you
is
a
turd
and
I
am
upset,
as
you
might
tell
from
my
tone,
so
I'm
going
to
try
to
be
calm
and
I.
Think
that
you
have
a
charge
to
represent
the
community
and
to
set
a
tone
to
to
lead
by
example,
and
so
I
I.
V
Yes,
my
name
is
Chuck
Livingston
I
hadn't,
planned
to
talk
last
weekend.
V
I
did
talk
to
Dave
Rollo
Rollo
and
on
Susan
Sandberg,
about
the
possibility
of
repeating
some
of
what's
been
posted
on
the
internet
about
my
neighbors
and
I'm,
opting
not
to
use
that
language
hadn't
planned
to
speak,
but
I
can't
let
Stephanie
stand
alone
with
just
a
few
supporters,
but
regardless
of
what
you
do
on
your
official
capacity
for
each
being
standing
in
solitary
solidarity
with
her
right
now
to
remain
silent,
while
this
has
happened
is
is
really
a
poor
reflection
on
each
one
of
you.
V
You
know
on
issues
put
up
with
nasty
people
out
there,
but
am
I
willing
to
to
go
through
that
effort
when
the
person
is
appointed
by
the
city
council
that
what's
going
on,
is
now
a
reflection
of
the
council
and
I
hope
each
one
of
you
publicly
not
behind
the
scenes,
but
publicly
make
clear
that
what's
going
on
is
intolerable.
E
I'm
Mark
Hagerty,
we
are
in
the
market
for
a
new
jail
and
I've,
been
in
front
of
this
body
and
several
other
bodies
about
the
multiple
deaths
in
custody,
under
only
the
last
Administration,
the
first
deaths
by
suicide
in
our
jail
that
we've
ever
had
all
under
this
last
Administration,
four
of
them,
four
young
men
died
of
suicide
and
one
a
young
black
man
who
just
turned
18
died
of
a
heart
attack
in
our
recovery
program,
after
not
receiving
his
heart
medication.
E
All
of
these
deaths
by
Suicide
and
this
other
death
took
place
after
our
recovery
program
was
being
removed
from
the
jail.
The
previous
administration
used
our
recovery
program
to
put
vulnerable
people
who
were
incarcerated,
who
might
be
contemplating
suicide
or
were
too
young
to
be
in
the
general
population.
E
This
costs
people's
lives
and
it
represented
a
kind
of
dishonesty
that
we've
become
used
to
a
secret
meeting
by
a
not-for-profit
that
spends
government
money.
Continued
secret
meetings
by
this
same
operation
and
the
government
unwilling
to
listen
to
people
that
work
in
the
jail
that
create
these
programs.
E
You
should
be
thinking
about
what
kind
of
incarceration
we
want
in
this
place
now.
I've
got
some
ideas,
but
I
don't
have
any
listeners
I've
spent
15
years
down
there
over
that
actually
and
I'm
very
concerned
that
this
community,
these
Democrats,
this
one-party
rule,
doesn't
have
any
ears
on
it,
unable
to
hear
what's
going
on,
because
I
don't
want
to
I'm
sorry
about
being
angry.
P
Hello,
I
am
Jolie
and
the
I'll
have
to
comment
on
the
jail
later,
because
the
inhumane
conditions
are
inhumane
conditions
and
need
to
be
resolved
as
quickly
as
possible.
P
But
I
wanted
to
speak
to
the
issue
that
Manhattan
and
Miss
Galvin
and
Mr
Oates
brought
forward
about
the
kind
of
language
and
attitude
represented
by
a
member
of
the
traffic
commission.
My
wife
was
there
in
the
meeting
last
week
and
she
was
one
of
the
people
who
presented
the
resolution
for
Cuba
and
Cuba
is
well.
P
Let
me
just
say
that
after
that
meeting
there
was
this
person
not
who
not
only
saw
fit
to
denigrate
the
idea
of
a
resolution
during
the
meeting
and
to
also
insult
City
Council
Members
specifically
continued
in
this
vein
by
writing
a
letter
to
my
wife
and
although
it
did
not
contain
profanity
or
any
kind
of
allusions
to
rape
or
sexual
activity,
it
belittled.
It
was
ageist.
P
It
called
out
that
it
was
a
waste
of
time
for
a
city
council
to
represent
something
in
favor
of
the
people
of
Cuba
and
the
people
of
Cuba
have
suffered
because
of
this
embargo,
and
we
have
gone
several
times.
We
have
Cuban
friends,
they
are
important
people
if
you
look
at
our
borders
these
days,
the
number
of
Cubans
who
are
fleeing
Cuba
because
of
the
repression
brought
on
even
more
so
by
the
Embargo.
It's
an
important
issue
and
it
isn't
to
be
belittled.
Whether
one
thinks
it
takes
too
much
time
or
not.
P
It
isn't
is
something
that
is
done
to
stand
in
the
way
of
legislation
anyway,
I
just
wanted
to
say
it
was
shocking
to
receive
this
letter
and
I've
seen
in
the
last
few
years,
how
debate
in
the
among
public-
and
you
know,
various
parties
to
legislation
that
the
council
was
taking
up.
It
has
gotten
to
the
point
that
it
is
no
longer
about
any
kind
of
cogent
or
passionate
argument.
P
A
W
You,
my
name
is
Jeff
Richardson
I
stand
with
Stephanie
Hatton
tonight
and
I
would
stand
with
her,
regardless
of
where
she
lives.
I
think
bullies
keep
bullying
until
people
say
enough.
We've
had
enough
bullying
and
it's
always
always
the
same.
The
longer
they're
enabled
the
more
they
bully
and
the
more
they
bully
the
more
they're
enabled
and
at
some
point
I,
don't
know
if
it's
receding
him
from
the
board.
I
don't
have
the
answer.
W
That's
in
your
hands,
but
I
think
people
have
to
stand
up
and
say
enough
enough
we're
creating
a
platform
we've
seen
it.
Certainly
at
the
national
level.
In
our
country
we
see
someone
at
the
state
level
and
now
it's
at
the
local
level
and
good
people
need
to
say
enough.
So
I'm
standing
up
and
saying
enough,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
it's
penetrating
or
if
it's
going
to
work.
But
there
are
people
who
are
not
here
tonight
because
they
fear
that
they're
going
to
be
on
his
Target
list.
W
A
A
You
with
that,
let's
move
into
appointments
to
boards
and
commissions.
First
I
want
to
offer
a
clarifying
statement
that
the
council
members
appointed
on
January
11th
for
the
council's
sidewalk
committee
for
2023
will
begin
serving
after
the
2023
sidewalk
report
is
done.
That
sounds
counter-intuitive,
but
we're
expecting
a
2023
sidewalk
report.
The
individuals
appointed
last
year
are
finishing
up
that
project
and
then
the
individuals
appointed
last
week
will
take
over
and
carry
the
project
forward
this
year.
So
I
just
wanted
to
offer
that
clarification.
A
I
also
wanted
to
acknowledge
the
multiple
comments
tonight
regarding
an
appointment
to
the
traffic
commission
and
thank
you
for
bringing
that
to
our
attention
and
to
let
you
know
that
we
are
in
conversation
with
our
attorney
administrator
Mr
Lucas
and
have
asked
him
to
research
possible
steps
forward.
So
thank
you
for
that.
H
F
A
J
H
B
B
A
X
X
The
property
is
three
Parcels
totaling
point:
five:
seven
acres,
it's
currently
Zone
MN
mixed-use
neighborhood
scale
and
the
comprehensive
plan
designation
is
mixed,
Urban
residential
there's,
an
existing
office
building
there
recently
or
that
will
be
vacated
or
has
recently
been
made.
There
is
not
a
proposed
development
for
the
site.
Currently
properties
to
the
north
are
part
of
the
Hopewell
development,
Phase,
One,
East
and
property
to
the
West.
X
Is
the
Center
Stone
home
there's
also
an
alley
to
the
West
that
was
recently
vacated
by
this
body,
so
the
property
was
moved,
the
property
and
this
map
Amendment
will
go
to
the
center
of
the
alley
that
you
see
here.
X
As
I
mentioned
previously,
the
north
and
west
properties
are
part
of
phase.
One
East
again
to
the
West
is
actually
the
Centerstone
property,
where
Centerstone
operates
owned
by
the
county
and
then
the
north
to
be
redeveloped
as
part
of
the
Hopewell.
X
There
are
some
differences
in
the
MN,
the
neighborhood
scale,
District
versus
the
medium
skill
District
in
the
existing
District
neighborhood
scale.
One
use
dwelling
Cottage
development
is
listed
as
conditional
and
that
use
is
not
allowed
at
all
in
the
medium
scale.
District.
However,
the
medium
scale
District
adds
12
permitted
uses
that
are
currently
listed
as
conditional
in
the
neighborhood
scale
and
also
adds
26
additional
permitted
and
conditional
uses
that
aren't
allowed
at
all
in
the
neighborhood
scale.
X
So
basically
our
MN
neighborhood
scale
district
is
our
kind
of
least
impactful,
a
smallest
scale,
mixed-use
District
that
you
might
see
it
kind
of
embedded
in
a
neighborhood
or
immediately
adjacent
and
then
mm.
The
medium
scale
is
slightly
more
intense.
So
again,
the
comprehensive
plan
designates
this
site
as
mixed
Urban,
residential
and
both
districts.
Work
with
that
designation
part
of
a
map
amendment
is
the
requiring
of
right-of-way
dedication,
so
along
First
Street
to
the
South
there's
already
an
excessive
right-of-way
there.
X
So
no
dedication
needed
and
then
a
long
Morts
into
the
East.
The
petitioner
would
dedicate
roughly
six
feet
of
right
of
way,
which
would
be
in
line
with
what
was
dedicated
to
the
north
for
the
Hopewell
development
and
again
the
change
the
green
light
to
the
West.
X
There
are
a
few
dimensional
districts
as
well
in
the
neighborhood
scale
district,
for
example.
Some
of
the
commercial
uses
are
limited
in
size
when
they're
single
tenant
and
the
medium
scale
doesn't
have
that
same
limitation.
Again,
you
can
imagine,
because
neighborhood
scale
is
envisioned
to
be
embedded
or
immediately
adjacent
to
Res
to
residential
neighborhoods,
and
then
the
medium
scale
allows
one
additional
story
and
also
reduces
the
rear
building
setbacks
so
slightly
intensifying
what
is
allowed.
X
So
you
can
see
here
some
of
those,
as
I
mentioned
before
conditional
use
is
going
to
prevent
it
so
mixed
Urban
residential
is
the
comprehensive
plan.
Designation
and
the
department
believes
that
this
petition
moves
the
property
closer
to
the
comprehensive
claimed
goals
for
this
District
by
expanding
allowable
uses
and
bulk
restrictions
within
the
frame
of
the
mixed
Urban
residential,
which
discusses
development,
for
example,
from
two
to
four
stories,
and
also
dedicating
right-of-way
for
room
for
future
public
improvements.
X
As
this
area
develops
is
in
line
with
the
competency,
so
here
are
three
specific
goals.
Again,
all
kind
of
in
the
vein
of
increasing
the
uses
and
having
right-of-way
dedication
be
positive.
Working
toward
these
schools
So.
X
The
plan
commission
found
that
the
criteria
and
findings
that
are
required
for
the
math
Amendment
were
met
and
when
they
met
in
November,
and
the
department
believes
that
this
rezone
two
mixed
use
medium
scale
does
match
the
comprehensive
plan
designation
as
well
largely
by
expanding
possible
uses
Additionally
the
areas
to
the
north
of
this
site,
also
in
the
Hopewell
Phase
One
East
are
Zone
and
mixed-use
medium
scale
already.
So
this
puts
those
in
line
with
the
adducted
surrounding
expansion
and
Redevelopment.
X
The
additional
uses
that
will
be
added
are
in
line
with
those
that
may
come
into
the
North
and
that
already
exist
to
the
Western
that
is
November
24th
hearing
the
plan
commission
forwarded
to
the
common
council
with
a
favorable
recommendation
and
one
commission,
one
condition
that
right-of-way
dedication
be
required
within
100
I
can
answer
any
questions.
A
Y
With
the
FC
Tucker
commercial
company
and
I'm,
the
representative
for
St
John
real
estate,
this
request
is
all
about
the
timing.
Y
As
we
know,
the
Redevelopment
of
this
area
and
the
hopeful
site
is
a
once
in
a
lifetime
opportunity
to
do
something
really
great
for
Bloomington,
and
the
goal
of
the
petitioner
is
to
match
the
zoning
of
the
hopes
well,
Parcels,
that
are
that
connect
and
around
this
block,
and
by
changing
the
zoning
to
mm,
it
will
only
add
value
to
the
overall
opportunities
for
the
development
of
this
area
and
as
planning
staff
stated,
the
rezone
of
the
site
to
mixed
use
medium
scale
matches
the
comprehensive
plan.
Y
The
rezone
expands,
the
possible
uses
and
matches
the
majority
of
the
properties
in
the
area.
The
rezone
would
not
affect
adjacent
business
and
I
would
agree
as
a
commercial
real
estate
broker
that
it
would
not
affect
the
businesses
around
there.
It
would
bring
the
property
in
line
with
the
zoning
to
the
surrounding
properties.
Y
The
comprehensive
plan
states
that
a
wide
range
of
land
uses
are
appropriate
for
this
area
and
planning
staff
stated
that
rezoning
to
mm
would
not
negatively
impact
the
adjacent
property
owners.
Rezoning
the
site
will
further
the
goals
of
the
comprehensive
plan
and
give
the
opportunity
to
provide
additional
resources
for
the
community
and,
as
I
stated
earlier,
it
adds
value
to
the
Hopewell
site,
enhances
the
different
possibility.
Y
Redevelopment
options
in
this
area
and
in
closing
the
petitioner
has
operated
a
local
business
here
for
30
years
and
has
20
employees
and
they're
a
very
community-minded
family
and
group
of
company
here
in
Bloomington,
and
they
are
super
excited
for
the
possibilities.
That's
gonna
for
the
development
of
this
area,
and
initially
we
offered
or
the
the
owners
of
the
property
offered
the
property
to
the
city
to
purchase
it
just
kind
of
made
sense
to
go
with
it
at
the
time.
Y
It
did
not
work
for
the
city
to
buy
it
and
again
the
goal
of
rezoning.
The
property
is
to
be
a
viable
option
for
in
the
Redevelopment
process.
And
again,
it's
all
about
the
timing
to
help
remove
any
hurdles
and
attracting
the
right
developer
for
the
area
and
so
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
St
John
families
here
also
they
can
answer
questions
as
well
again.
I
ask
that
you
just
give
a
positive
vote.
Thank
you.
H
Thanks,
it's
questions
from
Miss
Scanlon.
Could
you
sort
of
there
seems
to
be
a
small
confusion
that
it
might
seem
to
other
people
about
mixed
use,
medium
scale
versus
mixed
Urban
residential?
Can
you
sort
of
like?
Why
is
it
that
we
didn't
use
the
comp
plan
designation
as
a
Udo
designation?
Can
you
sort
of
explain
that,
because
it's
a
little
confusing.
X
Yeah,
so
we
we
don't
typically
do
that
I,
don't
think
that's
typical
anywhere,
because
the
compliant
designations
are,
you
know,
a
guide
for
what?
What
could
what
could
come
in
that
area
for
future
land
use,
usually
with
Outlook,
and
then
the
districts
may
be
more
fine-tuned
and
so,
for
example,
in
one
of
our
larger,
comprehensive
plant
designations,
neighborhood
residential.
X
There
are
a
number
of
zoning
districts
in
that
area,
so
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
it's
not
a
one
for
one
drawing
of
the
lines
so
more
than
one
zoning
District
can
be
appropriate
for
one
of
our
larger
areas
designated
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
X
So
in
this
case
they
do
have
similar
names,
so
that
makes
it
confusing
a
little
bit
more
confusing,
possibly
but
typically
yes,
that
they
they
don't
have
the
name.
The
names
don't
align,
because
the
areas
don't
match
up
as
exactly
so.
H
X
C
You
have
there
been
any
nearby
neighbors
or
neighborhoods
that
have
made
any
objections
to
this
I
would
assume
it
would
be
an
upgrade
in
I
think
the
term
used
more
intensity
of
development.
Is
that
correct
any
any
neighborhood.
X
Yes,
no,
we
have
not
received
any
any
negative
feedback
and
the
petitioner
can
speak
to
the
Outreach
that
they
did
specifically
to
the
neighborhoods.
Y
Yeah
I'm
sorry
Chris
Cockrell.
We
did
have
a
meeting
with
members
from
Neighbors
from
McDonald
Gardens
and
there
was
some
concerns
of
you
know
not
knowing
what's
going
to
happen
in
that
area.
You
know
so
obviously
rezoning
we're
not
sure
what
you
know
who
might
want
to
be
interested
in
developing
this
area.
So
there
was
some
concern
there
that
just
it
it's
hard
to
predict.
What's
going
to
happen
in
all
of
that
area,
right
so,
but
I
think
that
was
probably
the
number
one
thing
that
was
on
their.
Y
Objections,
so
we
we,
the
Isabel,
was
there
as
well,
so
we
we
had
it,
we
had
our
meeting
and
then
it
then
we
had
to.
Y
We
had
to
reschedule
a
meeting
as
well,
but
so
we
we
had
about
11
members
come
initially
and
then
and
then
it
started
later
than
I
had
hoped,
and
someone
had
stuck
around
so
I
was
able
to
to
talk
with
them
and
then
we
rescheduled
it
and
and
went
back
out
and
also
oh
I,
jumped
on
to
Isabelle's
one
of
her
meetings
and
offered
some
more
comment
as
well.
But
but
it
was
I
would
say.
C
It
fair
to
say
it's
mostly
members
of
the
McDonald
neighborhood
or
Prospect
Hill
or.
I
I
Effect
on
businesses
or
any
other
buildings
around
it
that
are
already
in
existence.
X
No,
so
the
rezone
the
existing
building
is
on
two
Parcels.
It
covers
two
parcels
and
then
there's
a
vacant
parcel
immediately
to
the
West
owned
by
the
same
property
owner.
So
it's
just
those
three
parcels.
I
K
F
My
interpretation
is
from
the
neighborhood,
the
MN
to
MN
the
medium
scale.
The
difference
is
essentially
a
story
and
it
is,
and
a
height
difference
of
between
40
in
the
in
the
in
the
existing
zoning
and
then
50
feet
in
the
mm
correct
and
an
accessory
structure
going
from
20
feet
to
30
feet
but
impervious
surface
Remains.
The
Same
landscaping
area
Remains
the
Same.
F
X
Yeah,
that's
correct,
so
the
way
that
the
height
is
written
into
the
title,
20
right
now,
it's
it's
story
and
height.
So
right
now
the
neighborhood
scale
is
three
stories
not
to
exceed
40
feet
and
medium
scale
would
be
four
stories
not
to
exceed
50
feet.
F
X
Yes,
so
the
zoning
District
in
Hopewell
is
medium
scale,
so
when
we
did
when
you
all
updated
the
map,
one
of
the
reasons
we
proposed
for
this
to
stay
neighborhood
scale
was
so
that
it
would
kind
of
be
in
line
with
existing
development.
So
this
and
Center
Stone
were
kind
of
a
block
of
neighborhood
scale.
X
Had
this
been
vacant
at
the
time,
because
it's
a
residential
high
density
to
the
South
and
Commercial
more
intense
commercial
to
the
east,
we
probably
would
have
included
this.
We
could
have
easily
included
this
as
medium
scale
at
that
time,
as
well.
I.
F
See,
okay
and
just
following
up
on
a
couple
things.
So
the
one
question
I
had
was
and
maybe
a
comment.
How.
F
X
Yes,
if
that's
something
you
all
are
interested
in
asking
for
in
the
future,
I'm
sure
we
could
do
that
again.
This
isn't
a
site
plan.
This
may
this
building
may
not
change
at
all.
A
new
use
may
go
into
this
building
and
there
may
be
no
Redevelopment,
but,
yes,
we
can
show
you
the
difference
between
a
three-story
and
a
four-story
building.
If
that's
helpful.
Okay,.
F
And
then,
lastly,
you
mentioned
a
site
plan,
so
there
will
be
review
of
of
a
site
plan
once
it
is
that
will
that
will
work
through
planning
and.
F
A
plan
Department
the
plan
plan,
commission
approval,
yeah.
X
Requirements
for
a
site
plan,
so
if
it's
a
change
of
change
of
use
or
you
know
if
they
do
scrape
it
and
build
something
new
that
will
all
have
to
go
through
the
site
plan
process,.
AA
X
So,
along
Morton
Street,
so
the
right-of-way
dedication
on
first
is
already
in
excess
of
what
the
transportation
plan
calls
for
so
they're,
not
dedicating
any
additional
right
of
way
on
the
South
Side
and
then
along
the
east
side.
We
need
slightly
more
right-of-way
there
based
on
the
transportation
plan,
so
that
is
an
additional
six
feet.
So
when
we
did
the
flat
For
Hopewell,
it
was
determined
that
six
feet
was
what
was
necessary
or
sorry.
X
X
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
the
report.
Miss
Scanlon.
Can
you
explain
to
me
and
bring
back
to
my
memory,
the
concept
or
the
definition
of
the
20-minute
neighborhood
level
of
service,
I'm
I'm,
not
so
sure.
I
quite
remember,
man.
X
The
20-minute
neighborhood
I
think
there
would
be
others
who
would
probably
explain
this
better
than
I
would
but
I
believe
the
20-minute
neighborhood
is
in
reference
to
being
able
to
walk
that
distance
things.
You
can
walk
within
that
amount
of
time
and
having
that
be
able
to
basically
fulfill
most
of
your
basic
needs.
X
So
you
know
like
a
grocery
store
or
other
day-to-day
things
that
you
need
to
be
able
to
accomplish
that.
You
can
do
that
within
20
minutes
of
your
home
on,
but
I
could
be
that
like
that
could
be
wrong,
but
I
believe
that's
what.
J
Okay,
well,
that
was
something
that's
under
the
crop
plan
and
I
kind
of
had
forgotten
about
it.
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
back
to
memory
and
I'm
sure
it
has
to
do
with
by
compared
Mobility.
J
Okay,
thank
you,
and
it
also
says
account.
Plan
specifically
addresses
certain
things
and
I
am
going
to
go
down
to
the
diversity
diversify
of
housing,
big
gold,
4.4
and
specifically
it
says
we
encourage
a
range
of
diverse
housing,
but
with
emphasis
on
affordable
and
Workforce
housing
and
I.
Guess
again,
my
question
is:
how
are
we
and
what
is
the
plans
in
order
to
emphasize
that
I'm,
assuming
that's
our
preference,
not
deference,
but
our
preference?
But
how
do
we
go
about
that
sure.
X
So
the
reason
specifically
doesn't
address
incentives,
right
or
or
requiring
or
seeking,
affordable
housing,
but
by
increasing
the
increasing
the
bulk
that's
allowed
here
will
allow
for
more
units
to
be
able
to
be
built
here
than
May
otherwise
be
built
and
also
allowed
for
the
incentives
that
could
be
added
to
a
development
or
this
to
be
completely
scrapped
and
turned
into
housing
to
be
slightly
larger.
If
they
do
use
the
incentives
for
affordable
housing
to
gain
extra
stories.
J
X
J
L
Yes,
I
know
the
answer
to
this,
but
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
public
and
my
colleagues
Ms
Scanlon.
Could
you
please
remind
us
what
is
around
this
parcel
currently
across
the
street
and
you
know
just
anywhere
adjacent
to
it
sure.
X
So
to
the
east
is
kroger,
so
you
have
Morton
Street
in
the
B
line
and
then
Kroger
and
then
to
the
north
is
all
of
those
buildings
have
been
scrapped.
So
that
is
where
the
Hopewell,
the
the
bulk
of
the
Hopewell
Phase
One,
East
Redevelopment,
will
take
place
and
then
to
the
West
is
the
county-owned
building
that
is
currently
operated
by
Centerstone
and
then
the
small
Center
Stone
building
at
the
corner
of
Rogers
first
and
then
to
the
South.
X
It's
actually
excuse
me,
zoned,
residential
high
density,
but
I
believe
it's
some
personal
service,
a
small
business
Warehouse
buildings
on
the
south
side
of
First
Street.
There.
C
Yes,
councilmember
Sims
brought
up
an
interesting
question
that
got
me
thinking
about
neighborhood
concerns
about
upgrading
this
to
the
mm
and
and
not
where
it
is
now
with
the
with
the
mm
and
where
it
is
now
with
neighborhood
scale.
So
with
our
incentives
that
we
have
in
place
for
affordability
and
sustainability,
it's
to
offer
anyone
who's,
developing
a
multi-family
structure.
There
an
additional
floor
or
additional
bulk
on
the
footprint.
C
Would
there
be
some
Merit
in
keeping
this
to
a
smaller,
less
intense
scale
as
a
buffer
between
the
neighborhoods
who
may
have
concerns
about
buildings
going
up
there
that
might
be
tall
and
and
dwarping
dwarfing.
The
current
existing
profile
of
those
neighborhoods
because
of
the
fact
that
we
do
have
those
incentives,
a
place
that
allow
multi-stories
to
go
up
if
they'll.
X
Sure
I
think
it's
a
good
question
and
there
are
neighborhoods
in
this
vicinity,
but
I'm
going
to
Let's
there
aren't
residents
immediately
adjacent,
so
I
think
you
all
can
see
this,
but
so
here's
the
petition
site
these
three
Parcels
here
and
immediately
to
the
South.
These
are
businesses
its
own
residential,
high
density,
which
is
five
stories.
X
So
if
this
area
goes
to
redevelop,
it's
going
to
be
intense,
so
the
nearest
single
family
portion
of
the
neighborhoods
who
have
shared
concern
are
actually
on
the
south
end
of
this
large
block,
so
a
block
away
and
again
our
actually
zoned
residential
multi-family.
So
those
areas
could
read
about
so
I
do
think
we
tried
to
carry.
X
You
can
see
MN
the
carried
this
down
along
Rogers
because
it
will
be
across
from
some
of
the
single-family
homes
on
the
west
side
of
Rogers,
so
leaving
not
bringing
in
the
slightly
more
intense
District
here
but
I.
Think
in
this
particular
location.
It's
immediately
adjacent
to
mm,
as
well
as
the
center.
X
The
surrounding
zoning
is
five-story
and
downtown,
so
I
think
I
understand
the
concern
in
general
when
you're
talking
about
you
know
having
areas
that
will
be
more
intense,
close
to
neighborhoods,
but
this
actually
isn't
really
even
adjacent
and
by
leaving
it
MN
we're
actually
like
leaving
it
much
lower
than
what
the
surrounding
areas
can
do
by
right
without
incentives.
So
I
think
that's
part
of
why
we
think
it's
it's
okay
to
let
it
go
up.
C
Thank
you,
and,
and
so
there
already
is
buffering
there
for
any
residential
neighborhood.
That
would
be
concerned
that
all
of
a
sudden,
a
five-story
building
is
going
to
go
up.
Yes,.
A
East
side,
thank
you.
We
have
slid
into
round
two
questions
so,
but
are
there
additional
questions.
A
Okay,
let's
go
to
seeing
none,
let's
go
to
public
comment.
Is
there
anyone
who
would
like
to
offer
comment
on
ordinance,
2301.
N
If
there
are
members
of
the
public
on
Zoom
that
would
like
to
comment
on
this
ordinance,
please
let
us
know
by
using
the
raise
hand,
feature
which
you
can
find
in
your
control
bar
under
the
reactions,
tab
or
the
more
tab.
If
you
can't
locate
that,
please
send
us
a
chat
to.
Let
us
know
you'd
like
to
speak.
K
Z
Dave
Essence,
with
b
square
bulletin
tonight's
question
that
I
have
is
why
I
guess
well
by
way
of
background
a
lot
of
times
when
there's
a
resume
request,
it's
made
because
the
Zoning
for
that
property
has
been
in
place
for
a
really
long
time,
and
things
have
happened,
and
you
know
a
request
is
made
to
meet
the
change
conditions.
In
this
instance,
I
think
it
was
the
case
that
we
had
an
opportunity
to
Zone
this.
The
way
we
wanted
it
really
recently
we
settled
on
the
Zoning
for
the
Hopewell
neighborhood.
Z
We
did
the
rezoning
map,
so
at
that
time,
I
imagine
the
planning
staff
maybe
contemplated
what
what
the
Zoning
for
this
parcel
should
be
and
landed
on.
The
zoning
that
exists
now
and
I'm
wondering
if
there
was
I
mean
what
was
the
thought
process
for
the
planning
staff
when
they
decided
not
to
Zone
it
in
the
manner
that
they,
that
is
currently
in
front
of
the
of
the
council
as
a
request.
So
why
didn't
we
just
rezone
it
this
way?
A
F
X
Sure
I
already
addressed
it,
but
maybe
I
wasn't
very
clear,
so
I
I
will
try
it
again
this
because
it
was
an
existing,
an
existing
business
as
well
as
Centerstone
that,
because
of
the
existing
development
that
existed
on
these
sites,
we
decided
to
leave
them
as
MN,
which
is
the
same
as
the
properties
on
the
south
side
of
first
at
the
corner
of
Rogers
to
kind
of
leave.
X
Those
consistent
as
I
said
before,
I
think
at
the
time,
for
example,
had
this
been
vacant
we
may
have,
we
could
have
easily
made
this
be
medium
scale
as
well,
for
all
the
reasons
that
we've
said
tonight
that
we
think
it's
appropriate
with
the
high
density
to
the
South
and
the
downtown
to
the
east.
X
It
I
think
it
was
just
part
of
looking
looking
at
it.
As
a
large
group,
we
were
looking
at
existing
conditions
for
this
particular
portion
of
phase
one
East
and
it
kind
of
could
have
gone
either
way
because
kind
of
back
to
Mr
Poland's
question
from
the
beginning.
They
both
make
sense
for
the
comprehensive
plan
designation
and
we
went
with
the
kind
of
less
intense
and
could
have
gone
with
medium
skill
at
that
time
and
do
still
think
that
that's
appropriate.
G
Thank
you
just
following
up
on
the
same
point:
I
assume
this
is
the
case
Ms
Scanlon.
If
staff
had
pursued
a
rezone
in
that
vein,
at
that
time,
there
would
not
have
been
a
mechanism
for
the
additional
right-of-way
education
Dedication
that
would
come
with.
Approval
of
this
ordinance
tonight
is
that
right.
V
K
A
L
Yes,
I'm
in
favor
of
this
free
zone,
I
was
part
of
a
neighborhood
meeting.
First
of
all,
our
regular
neighborhood
meeting,
where
we
discussed
it
and
then
a
smaller
group
that
discussed
the
matter
with
Mr
cockram,
and
there
was
some
concern
about
what
might
be
put
there
and
what
could
be
allowed
there
under
mm.
That
is
not
allowed
under
m
n.
L
However,
I
and
I
live
in
that
neighborhood
I
live
in
McDowell
Gardens,
however
I
I
think
because
there
there
are
no
single-family
homes
or
even
duplexes
or
triplexes
right
near
the
site.
I,
don't
I,
guess
I,
don't
share
the
concern
that
there
could
be
something
located
there.
That
would
have
a
negative
impact
on
McDonald
Gardens,
so
it
is
across
the
street
from
a
business,
a
parking
lot
and
a
little
bits
further
west
on
First
Street,
an
apartment
building.
L
So
it's
not
I,
don't
even
know
if
those
are
actually
part
of
mcdole
gardens,
but
it's
I
I.
Don't
think
the
fear
that
something
that
will
negatively
impact
McDowell
Gardens
is
is
founded,
quite
frankly,
with
all
respect
to
my
neighbors.
So
I
I
am
in
favor
of
rezoning
this
so
that
there
are
more
allowable
uses
and
a
little
bit
more
compact,
Urban
form,
which
I
think
is,
is
good
planning
in
this
day
and
age,
especially
with
the
climate
emergency.
F
I
have
a
similar
comment:
some
sites
are
suitable
for
density
and
I.
Think
this
is
one
I
think
it's
in
the
community
interest,
the
dimensional
standards,
change
of
one
story,
I
think,
is
fine
and
it
matches
Hopewell.
F
It's
not
going
to
impact
adjacent
properties.
Things
for
pervious
surface
is
not
increasing,
and
you
know.
Density
in
this
area
is
a
good
idea
for
businesses
to
be
viable
for
Effective
public
transportation
for
walkable
bike
access
to
resources
downtown
better
to
build
up
than
out
so
I'll
be
supporting
this
request.
Thank
you.
Thank.
I
Z
F
A
F
H
G
B
Resolution
2303
to
approve
an
interlocal
cooperation
agreement
between
the
city
of
Bloomington
and
the
Bloomington
Public
Transportation
Corporation
regarding
Economic
Development,
local
income
tax
distribution
to
support
Transit
projects.
The
synopsis
is
as
follows.
This
resolution
approves
of
an
interlocal
cooperation
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
Bloomington
Public
Transportation
Corporation.
B
The
agreement
includes
a
commitment
by
the
city
to
pay
bptc,
not
less
than
3
million.
Eight
hundred
six
thousand
one
hundred
dollars
in
Economic
Development
local
income
tax
funds
each
year,
beginning
in
2023
and
ending
in
2027
to
enable
vptc
to
pursue
various
Economic
Development
Transit
initiatives.
B
B
A
A
AB
Council
members,
Beth,
K,
Corporation,
Council
and
I
believe
John.
Connell
is
also
here
available
on
Zoom.
If
you
have
questions
after
I,
I
will
just
briefly
probably
recap
what
clerk
Bolton
just
said
about
this
resolution.
2303
would
approve
an
interlocal
cooperation
agreement
between
City
and
Bloomington
Public
Transportation
Corporation.
In
a
nutshell,
the
agreement
provides
for
the
city's
distribution
in
2023
of
an
amount
of
Economic
Development
local
income
tax
revenue
to
bptc
to
support
Economic
Development
public
transit
initiatives.
AB
distributions
in
2024-27.
As
you
see
in
the
agreement
are
contingent
on
annual
Appropriations
by
Council
through
the
budget
process,
and
the
agreement
requires
bptc
to
provide
counsel
in
the
city
Administration,
with
detailed
progress
reports
to
assist
that
annual
budget
process.
If,
in
a
giving
year,
the
appropriation
did
not
occur
that
doesn't
affect
the
other
years
of
the
agreement,
it
doesn't
automatically
terminate
the
agreement,
so
each
year
stands
alone
effectively.
AB
The
agreement
says
that
if
any
of
the
the
projects
that
are
listed
in
the
agreement
become
infeasible,
then
the
parties
will
determine
alternative
projects.
Those
projects
are
the
ones
also
that
were
presented
to
council
at
the
time
that
the
Ed
lit
was
debated
and
voted
on
by
Council,
so
you're,
seeing
those
prioritized
in
here.
The
agreement
will
allow
carryover
of
funds
from
one
year
to
the
next
and
provides
for
an
annual
distribution
of
this
fund.
AB
This
funding
in
March
okay,
so
it
provides
for
the
timing
of
the
distribution
and
then
it
provides
for
various
means
of
transparency
and
accountability
regarding
the
use
of
funds,
as
I
mentioned
before,
there's
a
detailed
progress
report
which
will
come
to
the
city
that
will
be
incorporated,
the
content
of
that
will
be
incorporated
into
the
annual
budget
presentation
for
bptc.
There
are
bi-annual
meetings
with
the
city
and
regular
dialogue
in
between
to
just
allow
for
conversations
about
progress
on
the
projects.
AB
Bptc
asked
the
city
Administration
to
enter
into
this
agreement
to
reflect
its
support
for
multi-year
funding
for
Transit
projects
which,
by
their
nature,
are
going
to
require
multi-year
funding
and,
of
course,
we
do
support
those
projects.
Council
expressed
its
support
for
those
projects
with
the
Ed
lit
vote,
and
that's
basically
what
this
very
short
agreement
provides.
I'm
happy
to
answer.
Questions
I
see
that
Mr
Connell
is
here
as
well.
If
we
can
help
answer
any
questions,
we're
here.
AC
No
I
good
evening,
John
Connell
general
manager,
Bloomington
Transit,
you
know
we're
fast
tracking
these
projects.
So
actually
we've
already
obligated
some
of
this
money.
1.7
million
has
been
obligated
in
a
purchase
order
for
the
local
sheriff
rate
battery
electric
buses.
So
we
look
forward
to
formalizing
this
agreement
and
continuing
moving
forward.
I
Hello
Mr
Mr
Connell.
Tell
me:
does
this
enhance
the
ability
of
persons
with
disability
and
or
elderly
to
ride
the
transit
system.
AC
One
of
the
projects
we
have
dedicated
within
the
lit
money-
approximately
ninety
three
thousand
dollars
to
assist
with
discounted
fares
for
elderly
and
disabled
members
of
the
community.
So
we
have
a
list
of
non-profit
agencies
that
we
sell.
Discounted,
fair,
fair
passes
tickets
to
so
those
proceeds
will
go
to
continue.
K
A
N
L
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
administration
and
Mr
Connell
and
the
Bloomington
Transit
board
for
working
on
this
agreement
and
it's
very
exciting
to
see
these
funds
move
forward.
This
was
definitely
a
big
part
of
the
reason
why
I
supported
the
increased
Economic
Development
local
income
tax
last
May
and
I'm
excited
to
improve
transit
in
Bloomington
for
everybody.
Thank
you.
A
F
B
Sims,
yes,
okay,
we're
going
to
skip
council
member
Smith
and
go
on
to
council
member
volin.
H
O
F
G
K
B
To
be
applied
to
the
cost
of
certain
Capital
Improvements
for
Public
Safety
facilities
and
paying
miscellaneous
costs
in
connection
with
the
foregoing
and
the
issuance
of
said
bonds
and
sale
thereof,
and
approving
an
agreement
of
the
Bloomington
Redevelopment
commission
to
purchase
certain
property.
The
synopsis
is
as
follows.
A
N
Yes,
the
council
had
in
CH
Amendment
one
had
asked
questions
on
that.
Amendment
had
gone
to
the
public
for
comment
and
returned
to
the
council
for
further
questions
or
comment.
If
the
council
would
like
to
pick
things
up
from
that
point,
that
would
be
appropriate
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
Administration
has
any
new
updates
to
provide
since
last
week.
But
that's
where
Council
left
things
off
last
week
on
this
item.
A
M
Hi
I
Mary,
Catherine,
Carmichael,
Deputy,
Mayor
I,
do
have
some
very
brief
prepared
remarks
tonight.
Is
this
an
appropriate
time
for
that?
Please
go
ahead
and
then
we'll
go
quickly
to
questions.
Okay,
thank
you
good
evening
and
thank
you
for
another
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
merits
of
acquiring
the
Western
portion
of
showers
Plaza
for
use
as
our
new
Bloomington
Police,
Headquarters
and
home
for
our
Bloomington
Fire
Department
Administration
I'll,
be
brief
at
issue
this
evening
is
the
purchase
of
the
building.
M
Yes,
but
more
than
that
too
tonight's
decision
will
set
the
tone
of
our
Public
Service
delivery
for
decades
to
come.
The
questions
I
encourage
you
to
ask
yourselves
are:
does
the
Third
Street
facility
set
the
tone
we
want
for
our
police
department
and
fire
Administration
in
2023
and
Beyond?
Does
it
integrate
our
Public
Safety
workers
into
the
Greater
Community,
or
does
it
isolate
them?
Does
it
provide
an
attractive
working
environment
for
both
sworn
and
civilian
workers?
Will
it
attract
new
employees
or
discourage
them?
M
You
want
to
prepare
our
Public
Safety
providers
for
the
future,
with
room
to
expand
and
embrace
new
approaches
to
Public
Safety
delivery.
We've
provided
you
with
professionally
developed
information
about
both
facilities
based
on
those
numbers.
We
believe
it's
unwise
to
continue
to
put
tax
dollars
into
an
outdated
unsound
building
that
will
likely
continue
to
flood,
even
with
significant
investment
in
a
perimeter
drain
estimated
at
a
cost
of
over
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
The
idea
of
doubling
down
with
an
addition
to
a
failing
facility
is
doubly
and
wise.
M
M
Moving
to
showers,
however,
offers
something
that
a
current
BPD
building
simply
cannot
offer
possibility.
This
is
not
only
about
physical
space,
but
about
integrated
government
and
Progressive
police
policy
practices
that
can
be
successfully
supported.
So
what
this
appears
to
boil
down
to
is
a
question
of
status
quo
or
the
continuation
of
positive
change.
Our
Public
Safety
folks
are
exemplary,
due
in
no
small
part
to
their
willingness
to
adapt
to
change.
M
Just
in
the
last
decade,
they
have
adjusted
the
way
they
do
their
jobs
to
include
body
cameras,
downtown
resource
officers,
social
workers,
community
service
specialists,
new
technologies,
all
resulting
in
a
Kalia
certified
nationally
accredited
department.
For
the
first
time,
it
said
that
people
hate
change,
but
perhaps.
M
Buying
a
new
car
is
a
change,
but
if
it's
an
improvement
over
our
last
vehicle,
that's
not
seen
as
a
loss,
but
again
so
we
Embrace
that
change.
In
this
case
anyone
who's
toured.
Both
buildings
can
see
that
the
showers
building
offers
a
significant
upgrade
in
working
conditions,
a
game
but
is
being
viewed
as
a
loss
by
the
fop.
M
M
May
even
feel
like
a
loss
of
autonomy,
and
it's
accompanied
by
much
that
is
new
and
unknown.
We
strongly
believe,
including
our
two
outstanding
Chiefs,
who
are
here
this
evening,
directly
responsible
to
oversee
and
provide
the
24
7
protection
of
our
Public
Safety,
that
the
future
of
Public,
Safety
Service
delivery
lies
in
the
purchase
of
the
showers
building,
which
moves
Us
in
the
direction
of
integrated
community
policing.
M
M
Finally,
I
want
to
note
that
this
Administration,
with
Council
support,
has
provided
more
support
for
Public
Safety
workers
than
any
other
in
the
history
of
this
city,
and
that
too,
was
a
change.
Thank
you.
I
have
our
consultants
and
staff
available
to
address
any
questions
or
concerns
you
might
have
outstanding
this
evening.
Thank.
A
You
so
before
we
go
to
questions
not.
A
And
again,
thank
you
for
that
reminder,
but
just
to
reorient
the
conversation
Amendment
one
to
ordinance
2206.
The
synopsis
reads
as
follows.
This
amendment
removes
language
from
the
appropriation
ordinance
related
to
a
Redevelopment
commission
purchase
agreement
for
a
par
for
a
portion
of
the
showers
building
complex
at
a
purchase
price
exceeding
five
million
dollars.
The
intent
behind
the
removal
of
this
language
is
to
indicate
that
the
council
does
not
approve
of
that
agreement.
C
H
Thank
you,
I'm,
not
sure
who
to
address
this
question
to,
but
under
a
Consolidated,
City
Hall,
where
this
is
approved,
what
will
it
take
to
maintain
the
city's
Kalia
accreditation?
H
AD
H
So
is:
is
there
reason
to
believe
that
our
Kalia
accreditation
will
be
affected
regardless,
depending
on
which
location
we
choose.
AD
It's
probably
not
I
mean
there
are
things
that
there
are
policies
on
within
the
building,
like
the
evidence
room
if
we
would
have
a
holding
cell
or
something
like
that,
that
we
have
to
have
policies
on
so
as
long
as
we
as
long
as
we
follow
the
the
Kalia
certifications
with
regards,
for
instance,
with
showers
on
the
evidence,
then
we're
not
we're
not
at
any
risk
of
of
losing
our
accreditation.
Thank.
C
Thank
you.
We've
heard
a
little
bit
about
community
policing
and
the
kudos
to
our
current
Police
Department,
our
chief
and
a
former
mayor,
actually
where
the
community
policing
began
with
downtown
resource
officers
and
adopting
the
Obama's
21st
century
plan,
so
we're
getting
all
this.
Yes,
we
have
a
great
Police
Department,
we've
made
great
strides.
We've
made
great
progress,
and
yet,
for
the
first
time,
I'm
hearing
more
about
this
integrated
community
policing
that
it
all
seems
to
be.
C
You
know
we
put
it
all
in
the
same
place
and
we
work
with
fire
and
police
and
the
police
works
with
directly
with
the
administration.
Is
that
somehow,
is
there
an
insinuation
that
there
is
a
need
for
police
reform
that
we
as
a
community
and
we,
as
several
administrations,
now
have
already
been
addressing
in
a
very
positive
and
and
and
Progressive
manner?.
C
G
You
so
I
have
a
number
of
questions
this
evening,
but
they're
all
sort
of
all
over
the
board,
but
because
this
amendment
they
all
relate
to
showers
in
some
aspect,
and
this
particular
Amendment
would
remove
that
from
the
appropriation
ordinance
so
sort
of
by
default.
All
the
questions
have
to
come
under
this
amendment,
the
first
of
which
is
if
this
amendment
passes
and
the,
but
the
appropriation
ordinance
also
passes
the
rdc's
decision
to
purchase
the
showers.
G
West
portion
of
the
building
would
not
be
approved
and
therefore
could
not
go
forward,
but,
of
course,
other
projects
could
that
were
listed
in
the
I
suppose
anything
within
legal
limits
of
what
the
bond
language
itself
said,
or
the
appropriation
language
or
both.
So
my
question
is:
if
the
council
does
not
approve
or
sorry
if
the
council
does
approve.
This
amendment
passes
the
amendment
and
passes
the
ordinance
and
it's
not
inclusive,
of
the
shower's
purchase.
G
Could
you
explain
to
us
what
projects
the
administration
will
plan
to
undertake
and
how
will
those
differ
from
the
current
proposal?
For
example,
where
will
the
fire
headquarters
be
located
things
things
like
that,
but
I'm
looking
for
a
full
accounting
actually
of
what,
if
you
know
it,
what
of
what
you
intend
to
spend
sorry
I'm,
looking
at
Mary,
Catherine
Carmichael
and
she
is
reading
my
words
on
the
prompter,
it's
all
very
meta
and
welcome
welcome
your
input
when
you,
when
you
can
thanks.
M
G
Yes,
if,
if
the
appropriation
ordinance
is
passed,
not
inclusive
of
the
shower's
purchase,
can
you
let
us
know
what
the
administration
will
plan
to
undertake
with
respect
to
all
major
facilities
projects?
Sure.
M
Yes
and
no
I
can
give
you
we
have
kind
of
a
list
of
options
at
this
time,
but
final
decisions
haven't
been
made.
We
would,
of
course,
have
to
find
a
place
for
our
fire
Administration,
and
there
are
a
couple
of
options
there,
some
of
which
will
depend
on
what
they
prefer
I
think
and
what
will
work
best
for
their
operation.
M
M
As
far
as
how
aggressively
we
approach
that
trying
to
think
what
else
am
I,
forgetting
oh
training
and
Logistics
yeah
I
would
build
out
training,
Logistics
Center
and
that
actually
could
be
a
place
where
a
fire
admin
ends
up,
although
the
location
is
not
ideal
for
them.
So
probably
some
more
discussion
there.
G
Thank
you,
and
with
station
three
in
particular
our
repair
and
a
new
facility
both
on
the
table.
If,
if,
if
what
I
shared
earlier
comes
to
pass,
the
appropriation
ordinance
passes
without
showers
being
included.
Yes,.
M
G
And,
and
with
respect
to
that
choice
and
with
respect
to
the
choice
of
the
location
of
fire
headquarters,
either
co-locating
with
the
police,
current
Police,
Headquarters
site
or
somewhere
different
or
the
training
facility,
sorry
training
and
Training
Center.
Is
there
a
more
likely
option
or
are
they
sort
of
all
options
on
the
table?
You're
not
sure
yet.
M
G
D
We
do
not
have
any
location
at
this
point
we're
in
a
temporary
headquarters,
so
it
could
be
any
of
the
approved
projects
we
may
have
to
consider
the
cost
benefit
and
pros
and
cons
of
co-locating
admin
with
one
of
those
other
projects
which
would
be
the
training
Logistics
facility
or
potentially
the
new
station
three.
If
that
gets
put
back
on
the
table,
what
I
can
tell
you
is:
there
is
not
enough
space
to
build
out
at
the
current
headquarters
site
the
what
we're
referring
to
is
station.
D
AB
K
A
L
Yes,
this
may
be
redundant,
but
just
since
four
a
week
has
passed,
Ms
Carmichael.
If
this
amendment
passes
and
the
showers
purchase
is
removed
from
the
appropriation
ordinance
does
Mayor
Hamilton
intend
to
expand
the
current
police
station?
No
okay,
given
that
that's
the
case,
if
we
don't
purchase
the
showers
building
using
these
bond
funds,
what
funding
would
be
available
to
provide
BPD
more
space
either
under
this
Administration
or
the
future
Administration
right.
M
Let
me
go
back
to
my
last
answer,
just
really
quick
and
say
not
an
addition,
a
renovation
that
would
take
place,
but
to
your
next
question,
I
believe
that
you
would
have
to
issue
bonds.
I
think
Jeff
Underwood
is
on
this
call
and
could
probably
speak
more
completely
to
that
question,
because
I
have
a
feeling.
You'll
have
follow-up.
AE
Good
evening,
Jeff
Underwood
City
controller,
yes,
the
the
possible
additional
funding
would
be
a
general
obligation
Bond.
That
would
also
include
a
property
tax
rate
that
would
be
utilized
to
repay
that
similar
to
what
we
did
with
the
two
five
million
dollar
issues
early
last
year
to
fund
that.
H
H
What
Mr,
what
Mr
Underwood
said
was
that
there
would
be
a
general
obligation
Bond
in
order
to,
if
I
hope,
I'm
understanding
it
correctly.
H
H
That's
that's
that's
yeah.
Sorry,
no
I
appreciate
that
and
I
have
one
more
question.
Why,
if
I
mean
the
this,
the
existing
police
station
is
described
at
once
as
going
to
be
sold,
and
yet
it's
also
a
an
undersized,
outdated
building
with
significant
deficiencies,
including
the
ongoing
threat
of
flooding.
M
H
Land
is
going
to
retain
its
value,
okay,
but,
secondly,
why
is
it
that
we
found
a
way
to
repair
the
flood
issues
that
were
on
the
surface
of
station?
One
one
block
north,
but
we
haven't,
we
still
don't
have
confidence
in
the
the
flood
proofness
of
the
building,
which
is
also
over
the
Culvert.
Maybe
that's.
M
K
M
D
D
Modeling
provided
by
CBU
that
we
should
not
have
the
same
flood
issues
that
we
saw
in
the
last
flood,
but
the
biggest
thing
is
that
we
put
together
a
plan
to
eliminate
the
basement
completely.
So
a
study
of
how
that
flood
affected
that
building
it
all
came
from
inside
the
building.
It
did
not
come
from
outside,
necessarily
and
I'll.
Just
give
a
good
example:
the
night
of
the
flood.
D
When
we
went
back,
we
had
to
open
the
bay
doors
to
let
the
water
out,
so
the
water
actually
did
not
come
up
over
the
foundations
and
everything
actually
came
inside
the
building
through
the
drainage
systems.
So
we're
fixing
it
by
saying
there
will
not
be
another
basement
and
redesigning
the
entire
drainage
system,
which
is
very
expensive.
Does.
D
It
does,
in
fact,
we've
already
tried
some
of
the
more
traditional
fixes,
they've
actually
dug
up
around
our
entire
Foundation
put
in
a
new
perimeter
drain,
and
we
still
had
the
flooding
issue.
So
that
also
call
into
question.
What's
the
validity
of
an
actual
repair,
we've
already
tried
that
at
our
current
place-
and
we
still
had
these
issues
I.
H
Mean
but
in
the
committee
hearings,
the
ad
hoc
committee
hearings
that
we
held
Deb
Coons
said
that
perimeter
Jane's
work
and
that
if
we
were
to
install
one
at
the
police
station
it
would
it
should
eliminate
the
remaining
flooding
issues
and
I
gather
that
they're,
not
substantial
anymore,
there's
just
still
the
the
Paul
of
it
I
see.
Ms
Koontz
is
on
on
the
screen
too.
But
what
do
you
say
to
that?
I.
D
AF
Our
dream,
we
also
talked
about
the
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
waterproofing
product
like
a
bentonite
which
expands
when
water
comes
up
against
it.
So
it's
not
it's.
It's
got
to
be
more
than
in
my
opinion.
It
has
to
be
more
than
just
putting
in
the
drain
tile.
It
has
to
be
a
waterproofing
solution
as
well.
So
that's
a
combination
so
that
that
is
important
in
the
distinction
of
this.
AF
As
we've
talked
before,
you
know,
what's
the
scope
of
the
word,
the
other
aspect
of
that
that's
critical
at
the
police
station
is
that
where
the
foundation
is
right
now,
if
there
is
a
drain
towel,
that's
put
in
the
at
the
footing
that
it
would
have
to
be
pumped
up
to
tie
in
directly
to
the
existing
storm
system
so
because
of
the
height
difference
in
those
two.
So
that
would
be
another
consideration
for
that.
H
Okay
I
mean
do
we
know
what
the
is
the
cost
more
than
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
such
a
a
system?
How
much
more
it.
AF
Is
so
I
actually
ran
if
I
was
comparing
after
the
meeting
you
had
asked
about?
You
know
what
is
the
cost
for
that,
because
I
think
it
was
shown
as
four
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
I
pulled
in
my
cost
estimators
inside
JS
held
and
they
identified
a
cost
of
almost
700
000
just
to
put
in
the
drain
tile
the
sister
and
interconnected
with
excluding
the
waterproofing.
So
you
have
a
comparable
number
to
the
four
hundred
thousand.
AF
C
So
to
me,
it
just
seems
more
cost
effective
to
do
it
all
at
the
same
time,
and
not
just
say
well
we're
only
going
to
renovate
we're
not
going
to
add
on
when
doing
it.
Both
together
might
actually
be
the
most
fiscally
sensible
thing
to
do.
For
those
of
us
that
feel
very
strongly
that
headquarters
here
at
showers
is
not
the
way
to
go.
Any
answer
for
why
the
res
refusal
to
consider
an
addition
with
the
money
that's
earmarked
for
police
and
fire
specifically
for
police,
in
this
case.
M
I
Thank
you,
I'm,
not
sure
who.
I
To
but
because
of
the
different
things
that
have
happened
a
few
years
with
retribution
against
police
officers
and
their
in
their
headquarters
in
the
country,
Summit
Terre
Haute
FBI
headquarters,
do
we
think
that
it's
going
to
make
the
area
safer?
If
we
have
the
police
officer's
house
here
at
showers,
will
the
employees
feel
safer?
I
M
I
F
Well,
I
would
I
would
just
say
that
from
what
I
found
that
it
100
percent,
a
unanimous
number
of
officers
at
the
in
the
police
force,
think
it's
unsafe
and
one
of
the
reasons
they
think
it's
unsafe
is
because
of
the
Ingress
egress,
the
location
you
have
to
negotiate
crossing
the
B-Line.
They
have
to
negotiate
going
down
an
alley
they
have
to.
F
They
end
up
on
arterials
that
are
not
really
designed
for
them
to
go
high
speeds,
as
third
three
is,
and
so
what
I'm
wondering
is
I'm
trying
to
Grapple
with
this
and
the
the
Administration
has
sort
of
been
discounting
that
as
a
problem
and
I
wonder,
if
has
there
been
a
traffic
study
done?
Has
the
administration
actually
done
the
traffic
study
that
that
explores
this
possibility
of
you?
You
know
how
many
squat
cars?
Well,
let
me
put
it
this
way.
M
I
have
not,
but
I
might
ask
Deb
Koontz
to
weigh
in
on
this
as
well.
I
know
that
she's
been
studying
the
Ingress
egress
issues
can
I
hand
off
to
you.
Deb.
AF
F
Then,
how
can
you
have
any
confidence
that
the
existing
infrastructure
is
capable
of
safely
being
available
for
the
police
to
use.
AF
Well,
in
the
the
question
I
believe
that
has
been
asked
is
really
about
the
amounts
amount
of
Ingress
and
egress
of
capabilities
that
they
have,
and
particularly
if
there
is
blockage
at
certain
you
know
areas
get
blocked.
How
is
there
other
areas,
so
that
is
where
the
the
focus
has
been
in,
ensuring
that
they
have
not
only
this
the
safe
parking
that
they
need,
but
also
that
they
can
get
in
and
out
of
that
space
without
being
blocked
off
many
ultimate
ways
out,
but.
F
AF
Studies
are
always
possible
right,
I
mean
studies,
give
you
more
and
more
information
traffic
studies.
Many
times
are
about
how
much
traffic
is
going
in
and
out
of
the
area,
but
it
would
be
based
on
existing.
You
know
a
lot
of
those
traffic
Studies
have
to
do
with
actually
putting
out
counters
and
assessing
how
much
traffic
is
actually
there.
Yes,.
AD
Mike
decoff,
police
chief,
so
the
our
current
facility
has
a
two
ways
in
and
out
showers
has
two
ways
in
and
out.
We
have
a
major
sidewalk
through
the
park
that
the
officers
cross
all
the
time.
You
know
we
train
our
officers
to
be
very
cautious
when
they
drive
so
I'm
sure
that
there
are
things
and
we've
had
internal
discussions
about
different
things
that
can
be
done
to
to.
F
F
F
It
seems
inconceivable
that
we're
that
we
don't
have
a
traffic
study
to
determine
the
relative
safety.
So
since
this
is
absolutely
absolutely
essential,
it
seems
to
me
the
safety
component
of
whether
this
building
is
functional
or
not
resides
on
a
quantitative
analysis
of
some
sort.
It
seems
to
me
and
I
just
wonder
how
could
this
be
overlooked?.
AD
Well,
I
wasn't
involved
in
any
discussions
about
traffic
counts,
so
I'm
not
sure
where
that
discussion
went,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
at
our
current
location
we
have.
We
have
people
walking
down
the
middle
of
the
parking
lot.
There's
a
lot
of
student
housing
around
there.
So
we
have
pedestrian
traffic
in
that
area
and
the
officers
they
tend
to
manage
that
quite
well.
G
Point
point
of
information:
are
there
data
available
that
show
100
response
rate
from
police
officers,
with
every
single
response
saying
that
Ingress
and
egress
is
unsafe
at
the
new
location,
because.
K
G
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
follow
up
on
this
thread.
So
in
past
meetings,
chiefdkoff
you've
mentioned
that
most
police
responses
to
emergency
calls
happen
from
out
in
the
community
as
opposed
to
coming
from
headquarters.
Do
you
know
approximately
what
percentage
of
Emergency
Response
calls
actually
do
depart
from
headquarters.
G
You
have
a
rough
estimate
of
the
percentage
that
leave
from
headquarters
versus
out
out
in
the
community
I.
AD
G
That's
just
a
guess
sure
thank
you.
My
understanding
from
residents
of
Bryan
Park
and
from
having
been
a
Bryant
Park
resident
and
a
regular
user
of
Washington
and
Lincoln
streets
is
that
officers
make
frequent
use
of
those
two
streets
in
particular
to
get
around
town.
Is
that
in
line
with
your
understanding
as
well?
Yes,
okay
and
Bloomington
Transit
headquarters
is
across
the
street
on
Washington.
Would
you
consider
that
to
be
a
high
pedestrian
location?
Yes,
okay
and
you're
also
adjacent
to
a
park
with
a
playground
for
small
children?
G
Would
you
consider
that
to
be
that's
on
Lincoln
Street,
High,
pedestrian
location?
Yes,
okay,
and
when
was
the
last
time
a
traffic
study,
a
quantitative
analysis
of
conditions
of
of
Ingress
and
aggressive
police
officers
conducted
at
the
current
facility.
AD
H
Point
of
order
can
we
clarify
that
a
traffic
study
is
a
term
that
implies
sort
of
I
mean,
as
opposed
to
traffic
counts,
is
councilman
looking
for
simple
counts
on
streets
or
a
study
of
how
officers
arrive
and
depart
from
headquarters?
Can
you
clarify
that
I.
F
Think
for
a
24
million
dollar
expenditure
I'd
like
to
see
an
in-depth
analysis
of
what
of
of
the
problem
of
Ingress
egress
at
this
Building
compared
to
what
we
know
the
existing
structure
that
includes
the
the
counts,
the
number
of
cars
coming
and
going
the
speed
at
which
they
operate.
When
they
leave
you
know,
maybe
a
an
analysis
is
councilmember
Flaherty
suggested
that
we
actually
interview
the
officers
and
find
out
specifically,
you
know
what
they
do
in
in
the
case
of
an
emergency,
very
basic
information
when
you're
evaluating
the
safety
of
something.
AG
Thank
you,
I'm.
Sorry,
I
wasn't
able
to
be
here
earlier,
but
I'm
just
checking
with
our
Chiefs.
We
we
don't
do
traffic
studies
on
fire
station
locations.
We,
the
emergencies,
are
located
in
order
to
emergency
services
are
located
in
order
to
to
get
to
where
they
need
to
get
to
in
the
city.
They
obviously
run
their
lights.
I,
don't
know
if
a
high
count
or
a
low
count
from
your
perspective
is
better,
but
our
our
commitment
is
to
is
to
provide
the
emergency
services
from
that
location.
AG
As
the
chief
said,
most
dispatches
are
not
from
the
station.
Unlike
a
fire
station
police
station
and
in
my
view,
that
number
should
actually
go
down
over
time
so
that
we
have
police
officers
spending
less
time
in
the
station
and
more
time
in
our
community.
But
we
don't
typically
I,
don't
believe.
Do
traffic
studies
in
the
location
of
Public
Safety
locations
like
this
and
then.
AG
AG
J
Thank
you,
let's
start
with
Chief,
decalt,
I,
think
and
maybe
achieve
more,
but
I
think
this
is
more
cheap.
Peacock.
Okay
am
I
being
hurt?
Okay,
yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Thank
you.
J
As
a
preface
of
the
question,
there's
been
some
insinuations
that
has
been
made
that
front
line
sworn
officers
or
fop
members
I
mean
it's
like
a
hundred
percent
or
a
very
high
percentage
say.
Oh,
this
is
unsafe
and
yet
I've
not
seen
any
document
any
survey
any
in
you
know
you
know
what
I'm
saying
any
data
saying
that
so
I
guess
my
question
to
Chief
Deco,
because
I
think
he's
heard
the
same
things
that
we've
heard
particularly
from
the
ranking
file.
J
I,
want
to
know
what
is
his
position
on
that
and
has
there
been
that
discussion
between
BPD
leadership
and
rank
and
file
officers
with
regard
to
egress
and
Ingress
safely?.
AD
We've
had
conversations
about
the
egress
and
Ingress
and
it's
it's.
It
is
a
concern,
but
we've
also
had
discussions
with
Deb
Coons
designed
people
that
said
that
these
things
can
be
resolved
and
so
I'm
not
sure
that
I
see
it
much
differently
than
the
current
parking
lot
that
we
have
with
with
the
pedestrian
traffic
that
goes
through,
that
parking
lot,
a
sidewalk
that
goes
through
the
middle
of
it
and
so
I'm.
Confident
that
we
can.
We
can
work
with
design
people
to
come
up
with
solutions
that
will
make
that
area
safer.
J
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
think
this
you
might
be
able
to
help
inform
this
question
as
well
years
ago,
when
I
Set,
On
The
Board
of
Public
Safety
I,
do
believe
we
came
up
with
the
divisions
on
on
how
officers
are
assigned
throughout
the
city
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
thought
one
parameter,
kind
of
circled,
downtown
and
then
the
rest
of
the
city
was
divided
in
quadrants.
J
AD
J
AD
AD
What's
going
on,
you
know
during
the
day
and
during
their
shifts
as
to
you
know
what
might
bring
an
officer
to
the
department
to
either
do
paperwork
to
you
know
get
supplies
do
whatever
right,
and
so
you
know,
as
the
mayor
stated,
most
of
the
calls
are
are
dispatched
while
they're
on
patrol,
because
that's
what
they're
out
doing.
J
Okay
and
I
think
that's
what
I
was
getting
just
to
emphasize
that
again,
those
of
us
that
have
served
in
those
passes
and
actually
know
those
things.
It
would
be
the
same
as
response
time
for
for
some
of
our
firefighters
and
our
fire
engines
in
order
to
help
determine
some
things.
Thank
you.
Chief
I
may
have
questions
not
necessarily
specifically
for
you,
but
I
may
have
more
questions
later.
Thank
you.
AA
Thank
you.
I
was
going
to
ask
Chief
decoff
about
crashes
with
police
cars.
So
do
we
have
data
there
on
you
know
the
last
five
years
how
many
crashes
there
have
been
with
someone
driving
a
police
car
with
pedestrians,
people
riding
bikes
or
with
other
cars
I.
AD
AA
A
Anything
else
from
round
one,
if
not
I'll,
jump
in
I
I'm,
like
several
of
my
colleagues
in
that
I'm,
trying
to
make
sense
of
this
Ingress
egress
issue
and
what
I'm
hearing
is
things
can
be
resolved,
there's
a
waste
it.
It
would
really
help
me
to
hear
more
about
what
specific
kinds
of
solutions
have
been
discussed,
because
right
now,
I'm
hearing,
oh
that,
could
we
can.
We
can
deal
with
that.
We
can
manage
Ingress
Ingress
in
the
absence
of
a
traffic
study.
M
You
know
I
think
we
have
talked
about
this
with
Deb
Coons
I'm,
going
to
call
her
call
on
her
again,
but
I
would
say
that
you
know
just
looking
at
where
there
might
be
a
narrower
Lane
that
it
might
make
more
sense
of
to
to
widen
a
lane
a
little
bit
in
order
to
make
it
a
smoother
drive
that
sort
of
thing.
Looking
at
gosh
just
things,
you
would
look
at
to
make
it
easy
to
get
around
Deb.
Do
you
want
to
speak
to
this
I'm?
Clearly
failing.
AF
Of
course
I'll
be
happy
too,
so,
yes,
so
obviously
we
have
kind
of
what
we
consider
the
two
main
Ingress
and
egress
from
the
site,
both
the
North
and
the
South
and,
as
we
think
about
you,
know
if
they're.
So
the
scenario
that
was
cited
for
me
was
what
happens
if
those
get
blocked
right?
What
happens
if,
if
somebody
is
protesting,
or
maybe
the
the
market
right
on
Saturday
has
overflowed,
and
you
know
those
kind
of
areas
are
are
blocked.
AF
So,
let's
just
take
the
worst
case
scenario
that
we
hope
never
happens
is
you
know,
people
are
writing
or
things
are
are
covering
that
they're.
Really.
There
are
two
other
ways
out
of
that
area.
If
you
don't
take
the
North
or
South
entry,
one
is
you.
Can
there
is
an
exit
point
that
you
can
go
directly
and
drive
directly
on
the
B
line?
Now?
Is
that
something
we'd
recommend
every
day,
of
course
not,
but
in
an
emergency
if
areas
were
blocked?
That
is
an
emergency
egress.
AF
Sound
additionally,
I
would
add
that
the
parking
through
the
parking
garage
is
a
actually
another
way
out
of
that
area
and
that
you
can
absolutely
go
through
the
parking
garage
to
get
out
into
that
over
to
I
guess
would
be
Rogers,
and
so
those
are.
Those
are
the
you
know,
other
alternate
ways
if
the
two
primary
pathways
are
are
you
know,
blocked
in
some
way.
AD
A
notification
on
the
B
line,
putting
putting
some
kind
of
flashing
lights
if
cars
go
through,
but
also
keep
in
mind
that
police
cars
have
lights
and
sirens,
and
so,
whenever
they're
going
on
an
emergency
run,
they
can
activate
those
to
let
people
know
now.
Is
that
going
to
be
ideal
in
a
in
a
denser
setting
people
will
get
complaints,
but
again,
safety
is
the
first
part
of
that
and
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
use
those
when
we
need
to
use
those.
M
Up
well,
let's
just
go:
can
I
speak
to
that
and
go
ahead?
I
hate
to
contradict
the
chief
in
any
way,
but
I
would
say
in
the
last
few
days,
I've
spoken
with
people
who
live
and
work
near
the
current
police
station
I've
spoken
to
people
at
the
rise,
Middle
Way
house,
gold,
casters
project
school
and
there
they
haven't,
experienced
a
noise
issue.
They
say
we
don't
even
hear
the
sirens.
H
Just
to
follow
up
on
this
thread:
isn't
there
also
a
possibility
of
Gates
coming
up
out
of
the
ground
to
block
certain
entry
points?
Is
that
a
thing
you
know
they're.
M
Trying
to
restrictive
options
along
those
lines
as
far
as
traffic
control
and
pedestrian
control,
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
I
think
that,
speaking
to
council,
member
rallo's
traffic
study,
I
think
we
would
want
to
do
a
traffic
study
and
then
I
think
that
the
results
of
those
studies
then
inform
the
best
choice
of
a
method
of
limiting
traffic.
You.
H
No
I
I
I
was
agnostic
about
it.
I'm
just
saying
that
this
is
one
of
many
decisions
that
is
like
for
us
I
think
it
would
well
I'm
commenting
now.
I
can
save
it
for
later
I.
M
Would
say,
though,
that
the
city
of
Bloomington,
on
a
regular
basis,
deals
with
how
to
keep
pedestrians
safe.
We
do
it
on
South
Walnut.
We
do
it
on
Lincoln.
We
do
it
on
Washington
I
mean
you
can
name
many
many
spots
where
we've
already
taken
that
on
as
a
something
that
needs
to
be
taken
care
of
and
Managed
IT.
That's
we
have
a
planning
and
transportation
department.
They
specialize
in
that
sort
of
thing.
So
it's
not
a
foreign.
A
M
H
G
Thank
you,
I'm,
going
to
continue
on
the
same
thread
a
bit
with
the
question
for
Chief
Moore
or
a
few
questions.
We've
covered
this
a
little
bit
in
past
meetings,
but
could
you
refresh
for
us
the
experience
at
BFD
at
the
temporary
location
at
4th
Street,
which
is
to
remind
colleagues
members
of
the
public,
immediately
adjacent
to
the
B
line
at
4th?
Street?
Yes,.
D
Thank
you
for
the
question,
so
we
are
right
on
the
B-Line.
Our
temporary
headquarters,
in
fact
had
to
move
some
of
the
traffic
signs
of
the
yield
signs
in
the
middle
of
the
traffic
had
to
move
them
from
one
side
of
the
station
away.
So
we
can
make
our
turn,
but
anywhere
between
and
again
on
average
five
to
15
times
a
day.
Do
we
respond
from
that
station
across
the
B
line,
with
zero
incidents
of
having
an
issue
so
same
thing
with
the
police?
We
have
police
and
we
have
lights
and
Sirens.
G
D
I'd
never
say
100
ever,
but
we
again
train
our
officers
and
our
firefighters
just
the
same.
The
lights
and
Sirens
are
a
quest
to
yield.
They
are
not
a
demand
to
yield,
so
we
would
yield
to
them
if
they
didn't
here,
but
again,
we've
also
Incorporated
a
lot
of
technology
so
that
we
can
alert
people
even
with
noise,
canceling
headphones
and
everything
else.
So
I
would
say
a
vast
majority
of
the
time
we
do
not
have
any
issues
with
them
yielding
us,
but
if
so
they're
generally
quickly
across
and
we
go
right
through
okay.
AA
I
was
just
going
to
ask
you
I
think
that
tonight
so
far,
we've
heard
a
lot
about
the
reasons
for
the
police
to
relocate
to
showers.
But
could
you
just
refresh
us
on
the
reasons
you
think
it
makes
sense
for
for
fire
to
relocate
to
showers?
Yes,.
D
Thank
you
for
the
question
and
I
think
again:
I
just
need
to
start
kind
of
with
the
history.
Prior
to
the
temporary
headquarters,
my
Administration
staff
were
spread
out
all
over
the
city,
so
at
the
loss
of
what
is
now
the
Lotus
building,
we
had
to
take
away
space
from
an
operational
crew
to
put
our
prevention
team,
so
they
were.
On
the
west
side,
there
was
the
two
main
Chiefs
and
an
admin
assistant
at
the
downtown
location,
we've
now
added
Community,
Care
coordinators
and
other
staff.
D
So
what
I
will
say
is
we
do
a
lot
more
than
just
emergency
response?
In
my
department
we
actually
work
very
close
with
planning
engineering,
the
County
building
department,
even
hand
in
cfrd,
beyond
that
the
internal
Services
of
HR
controller.
So
from
an
administrative
standpoint,
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
here
in
City
Hall
from
the
customers
we
serve.
D
They
spend
time
going
from
place
to
place
trying
to
get
things
done,
which
it's
already
fairly
difficult
to
get
things
built
in
Bloomington,
but
now
we
would
consider
putting
them
all
co-located
one
single
stop
for
someone
when
they
want
to
get
a
plan
reviewed,
plus
the
fire
portion
of
that
plan.
Review
done
if
they've
got
questions.
Anything
like
that.
So
from
our
perspective,
there
is
a
greater
sense
of
continuity
for
the
work
we
do
to
support
the
rest
of
our
operational
firefighters.
D
From
a
citizen
standpoint,
it
would
ease
some
of
their
issues
when
they
are
trying
to
go
through
the
process
of
building
and
even
records
requests.
They
have
to
go
through
the
legal
department
before
they
come
see
us
well.
Normally
they
show
up
at
my
headquarters
and
we
tell
them
you've
got
to
go
to
the
legal
department
first.
D
L
Yes,
this
question
is
for
the
administration
so
for
Ms
Carmichael.
If
we
vote
down
this
amendment
and
proceed
with
the
purchase
of
showers
for
Public
Safety
use,
how
will
you
engage
the
employees
of
the
fire
department
and
especially
of
the
police
department,
in
planning
out
the
renovation
and
use
of
that
space?
Yeah.
L
Thank
you
and
I
have
a
sort
of
related
question
on
me.
So
there's
been
concern
expressed
by
some
police
officers
about
the
many
windows
on
in
the
showers
building,
and
this
may
be
a
question
from
Ms
Koontz
I'm,
not
sure.
But
how
can
we
ensure
the
safety
of
our
police
officers
sworn
and
non-sworn
in
a
building
where
there
are
so
many
windows?
You.
M
Know,
there's
there's
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
prohibition
if
there
were
certain
windows
that
were
particularly
a
concern,
those
could
be
blocked
up.
It's
a
historic
building,
so
we'd
have
to
probably
do
it
from
the
inside
and
you
know
maintain
the
exterior,
but
I
think
that
there
are
options
along
those
lines.
I'm
sensitive
to
that
too.
I
want
people
to
not
only
feel
safe,
but
to
be
safe
and
I
could
see
how,
in
certain
particular,
if
there
were
certain
particularly
vulnerable
areas,
perhaps
a
deployment
of
ballistic
glass
would
make
sense.
I,
don't
think.
M
That's
necessarily
something.
That's
is
necessary
throughout
that
whole
facility,
but
I
could
see
if
there
was
a
particularly
vulnerable
area.
That
might
be
one
option.
I
think
the
important
word
to
remember
here
is
options.
There
are
many
and
we
just
it's
like
everything
else
that
we
consider
and
talk
about.
We
have
to
make
choices.
AF
Of
course,
yeah
I
would
just
build
on
the
options.
I
mean
yeah,
Deputy,
Mayor
Carmichael
mentioned
two
of
them.
You
know
ballista
glasses.
One
we've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about
before.
That
is
always
an
option,
albeit
probably
not
required
for
everyone.
There
are
also
Shades
that
actually
allow
natural
light
to
come
through,
but
it
keeps
you
from
actually
looking
into
the
office.
So
there
are
other
solutions
that
maybe
worth
exploring
as
well.
Options.
I
think
is
the
key.
F
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
idea
of
cutting
through
a
parking
garage,
I
thought
my
understanding
was
that
parking
garage
was
going
to
be
made
secure,
since
the
police
were
going
to
be
utilizing.
It
is
that
is
that
not
the
case,
so
how
could
it
be
an
additional
Ingress,
Ingress
route.
AF
So
if
you
go
in
the
sub
entry
of
the
garage
go
down,
that
is
the
area
that
we
talked
about
being
a
secure
area.
It's
got
50
spaces,
I
think
down
there,
and
that
is
the
secure
part
of
it
that
we've
been
talking
about
to
actually
go
through
the
garage.
So
that
is
the
secured
area.
If
we
were
to
actually
travel
through
it,
you
would
actually
kind
of
stay
to
the
right.
You
can
go
right
up
that
ramp
and
out.
AF
I
think
I
I
would
see
that
as
not
any
different
than
if
you
were
traveling
through
an
existing
parking
lot.
So
right
just
like,
if
you
were
in
the
showers
parking
lot,
there
could
be
cars
pulling
out.
If
you
were
in
the
police
lot,
cars
could
be
pulling
out.
The
same
situation
could
happen
in
the
parking
garage
so
that
those
situations
are
similar.
F
And
I
I
wanted
to
follow
up
too
you,
you
mentioned
an
emergency
option
of
a
different
another
Ingress
or
egress
through
across
the
B
line.
Could
you
elaborate
on
that.
AF
Of
course,
it
is
to
get
onto
the
B
line
and
to
drive
onto
the
B-Line
to
get
to
the
major
road
I
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
you
actually
go
over
the
B
line
into
another
person's
property.
The
beeline
is
wide
enough
for
a
car
and
in
an
emergency
situation.
If
there
were
no
other
routes,
that
I
do
believe.
After
conversations
with
the
chief
that
that
is
the
route
that
would
be
taken.
F
To
a
previous
Chief
takeoff,
you
you
were
talking
I,
think
the
discussion
was
okay,
I,
remember
now
it
was
a.
It
was
comparing
the
crossing
of
the
beeline
by
a
fire
truck
compared
to
squad
cars.
Fire
engines
are
much.
AF
F
A
Additional
round
two
questions:
if
not
I'll
ask
some
seeing
that
Miss
Carmichael,
please.
Thank
you.
A
My
understanding,
as
I
shared
in
last
week's
discussion,
I've
been
in
conversation
with
the
members
of
the
near
West
Side
neighborhood,
who
have
deep
concerns
about
being
located
not
about
being
located
near
police
per
se,
not
in
having
police
nearby,
but
in
the
traffic
patterns
that
may
result
from
that.
So
I
understand
that
you've
had
housing
and
neighborhood
development
do
some
Outreach.
Could
you
comment
on
the
results
of
those
conversations?
Yes,.
M
They
were
concerned,
they
had
several
concerns,
but
I
would
say
that
those
are
that's.
Why
I
reached
out
to
the
folks
who
were
actually
in
proximity
to
the
current
police
station,
because
I
think
as
human
beings,
we
can
kind
of
worry
about
the
unknown
and
start
thinking
of
all
the
possibilities
that
could
you
know
bad
things
that
could
happen.
So
that's
why
I
reached
out
to
the
folks
I
mentioned
earlier
to
find
out.
M
Okay,
what
was
their
actual
experience
and
as
I
reported
before
those
fears
were
not
founded
based
on
the
people
who
are
actually
living
in
proximity
living
and
working
in
proximity
to
the
current
police
station.
But
what
did
you
hear
from
near
West,
Side
Neighbors,
various
concerns
about
noise
and
traffic?
Okay,.
A
This
is
another
question,
not
I'm,
not
even
sure
who
to
direct
this
to
perhaps
one
of
the
Chiefs
or
both
of
the
Chiefs.
This
is
Under
The
Heading
of
help
me
feel
better
about
so
last
time.
I
said
help
me
feel
better
about
Ingress
Negros.
This
has
helped
me
feel
better
about
co-location.
A
One
of
my
concerns
is
co-locating
all
of
our
Public
Safety,
with
Administration
with
the
seat
of
government.
So
in
the
event
of
some
catastrophic
event,
That
Could
That
Could
disable
the
showers
complex.
What
is
our
plan?
What
is
our
alternative
for
setting
up
some
government,
a
seat
of
government
elsewhere
and
as
long
as
we
have
separate
I
know
that
we
have
a
place
on
Third
Street
to
go.
If
we
don't
have
that
anymore,
what
are
what's
the
thinking
about
that
and
you're
all
smiling
at
each
other,
which
makes
me
wonder
so.
D
Thank
you
for
the
question.
I
think
we're
actually
just
discussing
letting
him
answer
for
me
or
versus
not,
but
what
what
I
want
to
do
is
be
very
plain.
We
in
emergency
services,
build
continuity
of
operations,
plans
their
continuity
of
operations,
so
just
like,
when
the
flood
happened,
we
lost
all
ability
to
run
out
of
that
station.
D
Within
a
few
days
we
were
fully
functional
again
within
two
weeks.
We
were
running
out
of
a
temporary.
Within
six
weeks
we
were
fully
functional
as
a
fire
station
out
of
a
lawyer's
office.
So
when
you
talk
about
what
ifs
that's
the
world
we
live
in,
we
live
in
the
what,
if
world,
all
the
time.
So
if
you
were
to
say
what,
if
something
were
to
happen
here
to
showers,
if
this
is
the
move,
we
make
we
start
building
those
plans
of.
Where
is
our
fallback
location?
Where
is
our
secondary
location?
D
Where
can
we
set
up
communications?
Where
can
we
do
all
these
things?
So,
with
this
being
a
pending
plan,
we
haven't
gone
through
that
entire
process,
but
I
assure
you
that
if
this
is
the
plan
or
if
another
plan
is
created,
those
continuity
of
operation
plans
would
be
developed
and
we
would
have
a
backup
should
something
happen,
because
we
do
not
and
cannot
fail.
AD
I
mean
they're
telling
me
a
list
of
places
that
we
currently
have.
We
have
a
training
center
that
has
a
large
classroom
in
it
that
we
could
use.
Also,
we
have
a
little
bit
of
space
in
the
Dispatch
Center
if
we
needed
to.
We
could
use
that
and,
of
course
that
applies
to
our
current
building.
Something
would
happen
to
our
current
building.
We
would
have
to
find
other
space
and
we
have
different
facilities.
AD
A
AD
Well,
I
mean
we
have
we
have
options.
Currently
we
have
not
developed
those
plans
which
they
would
probably
be
very
similar
because
our
other
locations
aren't
going
to
change,
but
those
if
something
would
happen
to
showers.
If
we
were
located
there,
we
would
still
utilize
those
same
buildings,
those
other
buildings
that
we
currently
have.
Okay,.
AG
My
dad
I
think
those
are
all
good
plans
and
questions,
and-
and
we
do
think
about
that,
of
course
we
have
a
mobile
command
center
too.
We
have
Indiana
University
with
multiple
facilities
that
were
the
worst
to
happen.
We
would
do
that
I
do
I,
do
want
to
also
just
note
that
what
if
most
things
that
happen,
we
will
be
dramatically
better.
AG
In
my
perspective,
if
there's
an
emergency
anywhere
in
the
city
to
have
our
police
chief,
our
fire
chief,
our
coordinated
response
closer
together
that
gives
us
in
most
circumstances
the
ability
day
to
day
to
plan,
to
respond
to
coordinate
and
to
provide
better
integrated,
Public,
Safety,
Services
I.
Think
so
it's
absolutely
right.
AG
We
need
to
plan
for
the
worst,
but
I
think
it's
also
the
coordination
of
these
Public
Safety
facilities
and
every
time
I'm
with
other
Mayors,
the
the
the
integration
of
Public
Safety
thinking
about
it
as
an
umbrella
is,
is
critically
important,
more
and
more
important.
The
the
the
bright
lines
between
sworn
police
officers
and
sworn
firefighters
are
are
melting
as
we
as
we
build
more
capacities
to
provide
Public
Safety
in
that
kind
of
day
to
day.
Capacity
to
respond
to
emergencies
or
non-emergencies
will
be
greatly
enhanced.
F
F
F
Because
a
new
building
new
police
station
or
a
renovated
police
station
with
an
addition,
would
be
brought
up
to
withstand
essentially
those
types
of
disasters.
F
AB
Kate
yeah.
AB
Point
work
that
they
did,
they
engaged
some
Engineers
to
take
a
look
at
the
issues
of
soil.
They
commented
on
wind
resistance
and
so
on.
I,
don't
have
the
communications
right
with
me
right
now,
but
and
I'm
happy
to
follow
up
but
I.
AB
My
recollection
from
that
is
that
they
were
not
concerned
about
wind
events
that
seismically
because
of
the
soil,
the
standards
for
soil,
it
didn't
meet
class
four
I
think
you've
already
talked
about
that
and
heard
about
that,
but
from
a
wind
event
or
a
snow
event,
they
were
not
concerned
about
the
building.
A
N
Members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
comment
on
this
amendment,
one
to
appropriation,
ordinance
2206,
please
use
the
raise
hand,
feature
to
let
us
know
you
can
find
that
raise
hand
button
in
your
control
bar
under
the
reactions,
tab
or
the
more
tab.
You
can
also
send
a
chat
to
the
meeting
host
to.
Let
us
know
you'd
like
to
speak.
A
W
Richardson,
a
citizen
of
Bloomington
in
the
mid-1970s
when
I
was
in
law.
School
I
was
on
the
city
council
overlapping
for
part
of
the
time
with
my
prosecutorial
work
and
I
worked
in
the
prosecutor's
office
and
was
a
juvenile
probation
officer.
I
worked
with
the
police
every
single
day.
They
were
as
concerned
about
people's
well-being,
as
were
other
participants
in
the
justice
system,
prosecutors,
probation,
parole
officers,
judges,
not-for-profits
and
others.
While
at
the
prosecutor's
office,
I
was
putting
children
in
jail
that
had
no
business
being
there.
W
W
In
this
larger
context,
I'm
concerned
that
some
people
may
be
unwittingly
characterizing
the
police
as
free
agents
acting
with
little
supervision
and
oversight
and
not
willing
to
work
with
others
with
this
perceived
mindset.
It
is
there
it.
It
therefore
might
make
some
sense
to
conclude
that
it's
critical
to
have
blind
officers
move
into
City
Hall,
so
they
can
be
quote
reigned
in
or
be
compelled
to
work
with
other
others
in
need,
or
as
one
city
hall
Watcher
speculated.
So
the
mayor
can
keep
an
eye
on
them.
W
Having
the
above
perception,
be,
one
of
the
inferred
rationales
for
moving
lying
police
into
showers
would
be
a
terrible
misperception
of
the
police's
role
in
the
larger
collaborative
multi-stakeholder
system.
It
would
also
be
a
significant
disservice
to
those
officers
or
consciously
serving
now
and
those
who
have
done
so
in
the
past
I
think
it's
imperative
for
the
city
to
provide
comprehensive
service
to
all
the
need,
especially
working
closely
with
the
county,
and
here
we're
talking
about
safety.
There's
no
County
people
here
talking
about
that
they're
integral
to
this
I
have
five
quick
questions.
W
I
hope
that
you
can
ask.
Will
the
line
police
officers
actually
be
safer
in
showers?
Will
these
officers
moving
into
showers
actually
result
in
them
doing
their
jobs
differently
better
than
they
do
now?
Will
the
all
the
employees
of
the
showers
actually
be
safer
by
having
allowing
police
officers
in
the
building?
Will
the
city
overall
be
safer
by
having
the
police
in
the
shower's
building,
if
you
believe,
so?
How
will
you
know?
And
lastly,
as
a
member
of
the
council,
are
you
satisfied
that
the
process
surrounding
this
proposal
is
sound?
W
U
Good
evening
again,
Eric
host
and
I
first
want
to
express
appreciation
for
all
of
you,
as
well
as
other
people
who
are
in
the
audience
and
online
for
choosing
to
serve
our
community
I.
Think
it's
important
to
listen
to
the
folks
who
are
providing
these
services,
and
what
I
hear
is
that
there
is
a
significant
amount
of
concern
regarding
this
change
in
facilities.
I
think
there
are
issues
that
are
coming
up
that
came
up
in
the
subcommittee
hearings
for
meetings
as
well
as
tonight
and
I.
U
AH
Good
evening,
council
members,
Paul
Post
president
fop
Lodge
88..
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
we
have
spoken
with
you
at
length
about
this
proposed
purchase
and
the
pitfalls
that
we
see
in
it.
Thank
you
for
the
direct
attention
you
have
given
this
topic.
It
is
not
something
to
be
rushed
into.
It's
a
major
financial
decision.
AH
It's
a
major
logistical
decision.
It's
a
major
Community
decision.
We've
heard
from
so
many
in
the
community
expressing
doubt
and
concern
at
the
idea
of
purchasing
the
showers
building
for
a
police
department,
current
employees
that
we
shared
local
business
owners.
Even
current
leases
over
here
have
talked
to
us
this
week
in
The,
Herald
Times
mayor
Hamilton
had
an
opportunity
to
address
the
real
concerns
we
and
others
have
brought
forth
concerning
the
proposed
purchase
of
the
building.
AH
AH
The
mayor
described
this,
as
quote:
integrated
Public
Safety
Services,
strongly
tied
into
city
services
as
a
whole.
Unquote,
no
one
is
against
the
idea
of
further
combining
some
police
and
fire
operations
where
we
can,
but
that
can
be
done
and
is
already
happening
to
some
extent
without
the
risk
of
co-locating,
all
of
your
Emergency
Operations
and
City
Hall
operations
under
113
year
old
roof.
AH
That's
just
one
natural
disaster
away
from
a
tragedy.
Integration
of
Select
Services
can
happen,
no
matter.
The
building
chosen,
picking
a
location
with
the
most
likely
lifespan,
then,
is
just
common
sense
and
repurposing
a
historical
building.
It's
usually
a
noble
undertaking.
Yes,
but
it's
not
always
a
good
fit
for
the
proposed
occupants,
especially
ones
with
very
specific
job
needs,
Kalia
and
safety
standards
to
be
met,
a
major
change
in
vehicular
traffic
patterns
in
the
area
and
don't
forget
a
brand
new
apartment,
complex
coming
in
just
across
the
8th
Street.
AH
The
mayor's
proposed
plan
also
requires
the
use
of
creed
funds,
in
addition
to
the
sale
of
3rd
Street
property.
We
understand
the
responsibility
of
using
those
funds
for
what
they
are
intended
and
did
not
rely
on
them
and
our
projections.
We
sought
to
make
conservative
Financial
estimates
with
the
goal
of
spending
less
and
staying
within
the
budget
you
set
in
the
bond
process
and
who
knows
what
some
unknown
developer
would
do
then,
with
the
Third
Street
property.
AH
Q
My
name
is
still
David
sebag
and
I
still
live
in
the
Fifth
District
I
want
to
address
this
I
I
I
am
thrilled
that
the
city
is
buying
more
and
more
private
property
to
take
it
off
the
tax
rolls
so
that
the
rest
of
us
have
to
pay
more
property
tax.
It's
a
great
idea
for
a
government
to
buy
more
and
more
property
I'm
only
being
facetious
I'll
try
to
be
serious.
Now
I
I
was
part
of
city
government.
Q
When
we
moved
over
here
in
1995.,
I'm
sure
at
the
parking
lot
out
there
was
built
just
for
that.
I
was
driving,
downtown
I
came
up
and
I
Eighth,
Street
and
8th
Street
comes
across
and
8th
Street
stops
at
the
showers
car,
the
Fernandez
common
now
I
guess:
I,
call
it
and
then
continues
as
you
go
past,
and
why
is
that
well,
coming
in
here
is
traffic
calmed.
We
love
to
use
the
phrase
traffic
calming
that's
what's
happening
in
here.
You
got
the
parking
lot
over
there.
Q
Q
You
have
the
B
line.
Now
I
heard
that
tonight
I
don't
know
that
well,
if
somebody's
on
the
B
line,
but
it
but
a
police
car
has
to
go
across,
they
have
to
turn
the
siren
on
well,
if
you've
ever
been
a
bicycle
and
you
hear
a
siren
right
away,
the
first
thing
you
probably
do
is
fall
off.
The
bicycle.
You've
got
to
be
careful,
so
so
you're
going
through
you
got
to
cross
the
B
line.
Q
Well,
if
you
keep
going
before
you
get
to
Rogers,
there's
two
buildings
on
the
corner
of
Rogers
and
8th
Street,
so
the
visibility
isn't
very
good
and
then
you
get
out.
You
turn
left
and
the
first
thing
you
have:
oh,
we
have
an
elementary
school,
so
so
it
seems
to
me
to
put
police
over
here
in
a
landlocked
location
with
calmed.
Q
Traffic
is
doesn't
make
a
whole
lot
of
sense
to
me
and
using
downtown
Creed
funds,
for
the
remodel
is
not
what
those
funds
were
used
for
and
there
oh
there's
also
comparison
made
to
the
bunker
Robertson
Building
well.
I
know
the
Munger
Robertson
Building
I
was
over
there
for
20
years
and
you
can
get
out
on
the
Fourth
Street
very
active
area
not
like
going
through
8th
Street
here,
Mr.
Q
Please,
okay
yeah
and
you
got
parking
lot.
You
get
out.
It's
very
easy
to
get
out.
I
would
suggest
that
you,
you
should
look
for
a
new
location
for
the
police.
Please
negotiate
if
the
administration
won't
negotiate.
It's
up
to
you
guys
to
negotiate.
Thank.
A
AI
My
full
name
is
Jamie
Scholl
I'm
wanting
to
mention
just
a
few
things:
I
like
the
current
BPD
location,
because
I
feel
safe
in
that
area,
especially
in
that
Park,
because
the
BPD
is
there,
I
think
that
well,
I
I
don't
feel
as
safe
in
Bloomington
as
I
used
to
and
I'm
a
townie
I've
lived.
AI
Other
places
always
come
back,
so
they
kind
of
Bloomerang
fits
me
that
terminology,
but
bloomington's
changed
so
I
appreciate
that
I
a
concern
to
concerns
is
the
location
in
showers,
isn't
as
easily
Central
to
travel
north,
south
or
east
west,
as
it
would
be.
You
know
that's
something
that
is
a
concern.
As
what
was
just
mentioned.
There
is
an
elementary
school
nearby
as
well
besides
farmers
markets
and
other
events
that
take
place
around
showers
having
at
one
time
in
earlier
days,
living
in
San,
Francisco
and
also
Seattle.
AI
In
San,
Francisco
I
experienced
a
major
earthquake
I've
seen
masonry
buildings,
tumble
and
I
have
not
seen
any
indication,
and
maybe
I
overlooked
it
of
not
just
the
standards
of
getting
this
building
up
to
speed
for
these
uses,
these
New
Uses,
but
is
it
retrofitted
I,
know
San
Francisco
after
the
Loma
creative
required
all
building
speed
retrofitted
within
a
certain
amount
of
time.
We
do
have
two,
not
just
the
New
Madrid
fault
that
we
have
at
Wabash
Valley
seismic
Zone
as
well.
AI
The
likelihood
of
an
earthquake
being
as
large
as
what
I'd
experienced
in
San
Francisco
is
not
as
great.
However,
the
likelihood
of
having
a
five
is
not
out
of
the
question
and
would
that
building
hold
up
when
we
have
both
fire
and
police
in
the
same
building
and
every
all
of
these
communications
and
everyone
that
we
would
need
to
to
respond
to
this
in
a
location
that
may
not
be
nearly
as
Central
and
easily
accessible
to
the
areas
of
the
city
that
need
to
be
accessed
anyway.
AI
A
AJ
AJ
As
long
as
City
Hall
is
located
in
this
building,
there
shouldn't
be
a
public
safety
headquarters
located
with
it.
Now,
if
the
building
was
a
category
4
building
and
in
a
location
with
access
to
Major
roadways,
we
would
not
be
having
this
conversation
and
looking
at
the
past
five
years,
the
police
department
asked
for
a
raise
at
one
time,
so
the
mayor
had
a
salary
study
conducted
Police
Department
also
asked
for
more
manpower.
So
the
mayor
had
a
staffing
study
conducted
when
it
was
determined
that
the
police
needed
a
new
headquarters.
AJ
Why
wasn't
a
study
done
to
determine
the
best
location?
Normally,
a
study
is
conducted
in
conjunction
with
the
police
department
to
determine
the
needs
of
the
future
department.
They
then
look
at
how
much
is
going
to
cost
and
then
look
at
possible
locations.
The
best
location
is
then
chosen.
After
all
of
this,
this
entire
process
has
been
the
cart
before
the
horse.
AJ
The
mayor
wants
the
showers
building
and
figured
out.
He
could
buy
it
with
Public
Safety
funding.
It
was
never
determined
to
be
the
best
location
and
there
wasn't
due
diligence
done
on
this
site
or
other
sites
prior
to
bringing
the
initial
proposal
to
the
city
council.
It
was
only
after
this
Council
asked
about
other
options
that
the
plan
B
and
plan
C
were
both
put
forth,
both
of
which
had
such
inflated
costs
that
the
hope
would
be
to
just
go
with
the
cheaper
option.
The
showers
building.
AJ
According
to
the
architect,
a
new
building
would
cost
500
per
square
foot,
but
the
actual
completed
cost
would
be
814
dollars
per
square
foot
if
we
own
the
property
and
nine
hundred
dollars
per
square
foot.
If
we
don't
own
the
property,
just
in
the
newspaper
yesterday,
it
states
the
new
Monroe
County
Library
will
be
12
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
twenty
one
thousand
square
feet
or
595
dollars
a
square
foot
for
the
completed
project.
AJ
While
the
library
isn't
a
police
department.
Please
explain
why
ever
square
foot
would
be
200
to
300
more
expensive.
You,
the
council,
are
voting
on
spending
23.5
million
dollars
for
the
future
of
the
police
department.
What
are
you
getting
for
your
money
in
25
years?
If
you
build
new,
you
have
a
25
year
old,
building
bit
built
to
Modern
standards.
AJ
If
you
renovate
and
expand
the
existing
BPD,
you
have
half
a
building,
that's
90
years
old
and
half
that
is
25
years
old
and
built
to
moderate
standards.
If
you
purchase
the
showers
building,
you
will
have
a
135
year
old.
Building
that
is
an
office
building,
does
not
meet
modern
standards
of
a
police
department.
How
long
do
you
really
believe
the
showers
building
is
going
to
last?
S
S
Okay,
the
part
that
excites
me
about
having
the
police
move
to
showers
is
that
there's
a
need
in
our
country
for
police
reform,
and
you
know
we've
had
years.
You
know
generations
of
black
and
brown
people
being
treated
in
harmful
ways
by
police
by
policing
and
I
live
in
the
near
West
Side
neighborhood
I've
seen
it
in
my
neighborhood,
and
what
do
you
mean
I've?
S
So
I
gave
her
a
ride
home.
These
are
things
that
I
really
think
policing
could
be
doing
better,
and
so,
when
we
try
to
think
about
how
to
reform
policing
integrated
Public
Safety
is
one
of
the
things
that
is
the
way
to
go.
So
this
is
what
I
think
you
know.
Some
cities
are
having
to
pay
two
million
and
5
million
when
something
terrible
happens
from
the
police
shooting
somebody
we
haven't
had
that
happen.
S
So
that's
what
excites
me
about
integrated,
Public
Safety,
a
few
people
in
my
neighborhood
are
raising
concerns
like
oh,
the
police
will
be
zooming
down
our
streets,
but
when
I
was
on
our
neighborhood
board
10
years
ago,
we
had
a
officer
assigned
to
us
that
was
like
a
liaison
for
our
neighborhood,
and
we
were
able
to
ask
her
when
there
were
times
when
we
felt
like
there
were
too
many
police
zooming
through
our
neighborhood
and
she
was
able
to
talk
to
the
police.
So
we
had
a
liaison
and
that
worked
really
well.
S
I
forget
her
name
was
April
or
something
like
that,
and
that
worked
really
well,
and
we
felt
very
satisfied
with
that
and
I
think
that
could
have
swatched
the
fears
of
people
in
our
neighborhood,
but
otherwise
I
think
there's
something
really
good
thinking
forward
in
Bloomington
of
what
could
be
the
in
this,
for
both
the
police
to
have
more
satisfying
jobs
where
it's
not
just
about.
S
Yeah
anyway,
that's
just
I
I
think
there's
some
really
good
things
that
can
happen
in
the
culture
of
our
city.
If
we
make
this
move
so.
A
H
So
we've
talked
quite
a
bit
about
the
benefits
of
unifying
these
departments
in
City
Hall,
but
I'm,
looking
at
the
schema
that
was
provided
to
us
by
the
administration,
the
first
and
second
floor,
and
one
thing
I
don't
see
is
where
the
connections
between
the
police
department
and
the
rest
of
City
Hall
would
go.
I
mean
it
seems
to
me
that
police,
the
police
department
needs
to
be
secure
in
some
places.
Maybe
it
doesn't
have
to
be
so
secure
in
others,
but
can
somebody
talk
to
that
point?
H
In
other
words,
where
are
we
going
to
see
the
benefits
of
say,
Police
Department
officials,
both
line
officers
and
Records
officials
and
the
like
are
walking
through
the
hallway
right,
outside
Chambers
or
otherwise,
interacting
with
the
rest
of
the
city?
Can
someone
speak
to
that?
H
AF
H
Okay,
so
that's
a
new
quarter
and
that's
down
by
yeah
I
know
where
that
is
here
in
City
Hall.
So.
AF
H
Can
I
just
lope
on
into
that
Corridor
as
a
city
council
member
I
mean,
will
I?
Will
my
badge
get
me
into
some
portion
of.
AF
H
AF
Well,
right
now
the
police
department
is
on
the
other
side
of
that
Corridor.
And
if
you
look
closely,
you
can
see
that
there
is
no
direct
connection
point
on
the
first
floor
to
the
to
this
side
of
the
police
department.
Now,
if
they
ever
expand,
then
those
kind
of
conversations
would
absolutely
have
to
be
held.
There
is
connection
on
the
second
floor.
H
I
see
the
Mayors
here
with
a
responsibility.
Well,
I
mean
I,
don't
it's
for
either
of
you
so
I
mean
look
I'm
familiar
with
the
whole
of
this
building.
I
had
office
space
in
showers
Plaza,
not
long
after
they
opened
not
long
after
City
Hall
moved
here
and
one
thing
I
remember
and
one
thing
that
I
see
every
time
I
come
to
City
Hall
is
they
were
designed
to
be
two
separate
buildings,
even
though
they're
a
single
structure
and
like
it's
a
kind
of
a
hall
to
walk
around
like
I?
AG
Thank
you
I
appreciate
the
question
in
the
sentiment
and
and
I
first,
partly
in
response
to
some
of
the
comments.
I
just
want
to
make
clear
I
personally
and
this
Administration
is
incredibly
proud
of
our
Public
Safety
departments.
We
have
among
the
best
in
the
state,
if
not
the
best.
We
are
very,
very
proud
of
their
service,
their
progressivity,
their
professionalism
and
I.
Think
that
reflects
a
tradition
of
evolution
and
change
and
focusing
on
how
do
we
deliver
the
best
public
safety
to
our
people?
AG
I've
sworn
in
a
lot
of
police
officers
over
the
last
seven
years,
dozens
every
time,
I
swear
in
a
police
officer,
I
talk
ahead
and
I
talk
about
how
the
more
you
know
as
a
new
police
officer
about
our
community,
the
better
and
the
more
our
community
knows
about
you
as
a
police
department
and
a
police
officer,
the
better
we
we
are
proud
of
how
we
act
and
how
we
and
how
we
behave
and
the
integration
of
those
services
with
our
community
is
important.
Now,
that's
a
specific
question
about
how's.
AG
This
going
to
work
in
terms
of
integration
is
a
great
one.
I
think
it's
multi-level
I
know
the
police.
Social
workers
are
excited
about
being
co-located
with
the
behavior,
the
health
specialists
of
the
fire
department.
Those
who
are
dealing
in
a
lot
of
ways
with
long-term
issues
of
our
Public
Safety
are
excited
about
being
able
on
a
daily
matter
to
be
daily
way
to
be
right
next
to
each
other.
AG
Similarly,
our
our
community
service
specialists,
the
the
the
fire
as
they
expand
into
more
Behavioral
Health.
That
kind
of
integration
at
the
police
and
fire
level
will
be
very
helpful
day
to
day,
not
to
mention
our
administrators.
Our
leadership
as
they
think
about
Public,
Safety
I,
do
think.
AG
Also
within
the
building
and
security
is
going
to
be
Paramount
and
it
is
a
police
department
is
more
secure
than
a
planning
department
and
that's
going
to
be
the
case,
but
even
within
the
building
there
will
be
movement
back
and
forth
of
different
people
sharing
space
going
to
meetings
going
to
restrooms
going
to
water
water
coolers
as
it
were,
and
then
I
don't
think.
I
wanted
I
want
you
not
to
discount
how
many
of
you
spend
much
time
around
the
police
department,
seeing
seeing
officers
coming
in
and
out
on
their
lunch
break.
AG
How
many
of
us
do
that
it's
a
very
isolated
place,
I
do
think
the
value
of
having
our
front
line
police
officers
and
fire
administrators
and
other
non-sworn
officers,
non-sworn
Personnel,
just
be
in
the
milieu
of
City
Hall,
will
cause
interactions
among
all
of
us
and
among
the
staff
and
among
the
public
in
general
ways
more
than
it
happens
now
and
that's
a
good
thing.
The
police
below
the
police
are
part
of
our
community
and
our
community
is
part
of
our
police
same
with
the
fire
department.
AG
Well,
so
I,
it's
a
great
question
and
I
think
we'll
we'll
learn
as
we
go.
How
much
that
happens,
but
I
think
it'll
be
a
lot,
and
the
last
thing
I
also
want
to
note
on
the
on
the
issue
of
concentration
of
forces
which,
which
we
pay
attention
to,
of
course,
but
just
to
note,
we
probably
have
about
280
Personnel
between
police
and
fire
right
now
at
any
given
time
there
will
not
be
more
than
about
60
of
them
in
this
building
maximum.
AG
H
F
AG
I'm
not
aware
of
the
theory,
I
mean
I've
I've
heard
representation
from
the
fop
leadership
that
they're
against
it,
as
they've
indicated
I've,
not
seen
any
data,
but
they
have
indicated
that
I,
don't
I,
don't
remember
when
I
first
heard
that
council
member
Rallo
it's
been,
it's
been
a
little
while,
but
but
a
couple
few
months,
I
suppose
but
I
haven't
seen
any
data.
AG
F
AG
Process
and
I
want
to
be
clear.
We
had
an
extensive
study
process
done
that
looked
at
about
dozens
of
locations
potentially
for
a
facility,
so
we
have
been
doing
that
study
and
in
the
last
several
months
as
the
showers
option
became
the
optimal
option,
I
learned
that
the
fop
had
concerns
about
it.
They
then
made
clear
they
were
against
it
and
have
have
been
indicating
that
since
then,
we've
and
I've
met
with
them
several
times.
We've
talked
about
all
these
issues.
AG
F
AG
AG
K
AG
AA
You
councilmember
Rosenberger.
Thank
you.
This
I
have
two
the
first
one
for
the
administration
I'm
not
advocating
for
any
kind
of
extension
on
this,
and
that's
that's
what
the
question
is.
AA
M
I,
thank
you.
Councilmember
Rosenberger,
Mary,
Catherine,
Carmichael,
Deputy,
Mayor
I
have
had
a
conversation
with
representatives
from
CFC
as
recently
as
today,
you
may
or
may
not
be
aware
of
their
liquidating
much
of
their
property
here
in
Bloomington
they're
endeavoring
to
build
Workforce
housing
elsewhere
with
the
proceeds
from
the
properties
that
they're
selling.
This
is
the
last
remaining
property
among
those
that
they
have
been
charged
with
selling.
So
I
think
that
I
will
I.
M
Don't
think
that
I
was
told
that
there's
a
great
deal
of
pressure
being
put
on
those
folks
responsible
for
selling
to
go
ahead
and
sell
this
building.
So
I
think
that
this
is
likely
kind
of
a
once
in
a
lifetime
chance
once
in
a
generation
chance
to
buy
that
face.
If
it
is
something
that
we
want
to
do,
I
think
they're
going
to
try
to
move
that.
AA
Thank
you
can
I
follow
up
on
the
kind
of
it's
about
the
building.
Still,
okay,
we
aren't
talking
about
how
old
this
building
is,
and
it
is
very
old.
AA
I'd
also
say
you
know,
like
I
live
in
a
historic
home,
it's
a
hundred
and
almost
30
years
old
I've
renovated
the
inside,
so
I
mean
what
I
guess
what
has
happened
here.
Obviously
this
is
new,
but
I
guess
you
know
like
what
is
newer
compared
to
like
the
outside
I
mean
the
bricks
are
old,
but
is
that
the
only
thing
that's
old
right.
M
So
you
know
when
you
talk
about
old
buildings,
you
talk
about
bones,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
the
bones
of
this
building
are
very
clearly
visible,
as
you
walk
through
and
they're
good
bones,
but
I
would
say
even
more
than
that
as
you'll
recall
these
well
both
sides
of
this
building.
In
fact,
the
whole
facility
was
basically
gutted
in
the
in
the
mid
90s
mid
to
early
early
to
mid
90s,
and
then
it
was
put
back
together.
M
It
is
very
well
done
very
high
quality
materials
used
throughout
many
recent
upgrades.
Roof
Tech
pointing
that
sort
of
thing.
They
do
a
very
nice
job
of
keeping
things
painted
and
up-to-date,
and
just
you
know
as
nice
as
it
can
be.
So
yes,
the
the
the
the
bones
are
old,
but
the
functional
things
are
are
not
old
and
well
maintained.
C
C
C
Were
not
so
this
is
last
and
best
and
final
here,
okay
and
a
question
I
have
too
about.
Are
there
any
interested
people
communicating
with
the
city
about
an
interest
in
purchasing
and
I?
Think
you've
made
it
clear
that
the
building
is
no
longer
it's
a
failing
facility?
C
Is
somebody
interested
in
buying
the
Third
Street
property
for
the
land?
Anybody
we
know
of
it's.
F
Yes,
well
it's
on
Amendment
one,
but
that's
the
and
that's
really
the
focus
of
the.
Of
course.
The
debate
about
this,
the
showers
purchase
first
I,
want
to
say
the
process.
I
think
has
been
disappointing.
F
F
F
It
was
enlightening
to
serve
on
the
ad
hoc
committee.
I
think
that
councilmemberlin
did
an
excellent
job
of
chairing
that
and
and
drilling
down
on
various
topics.
What
was
most
striking
to
me?
There's
a
lot
to
say
about
it,
but
what
was
most
striking
to
me
is
the
tendency
it
seemed
to
me
to
inflate
the
cost
of
the
Third
Street
Station
renovation
and
the
discounting
of
expenses
at
showers
after
after
I
toured
the
police
station
and
understood,
and
there
are
suggestions
for
renovation
needs.
F
It
seemed
entirely
conceivable
to
me
that
it
was
much
less
than
the
estimate
of
the
of
the
of
the
administration
or
their
architect.
It
I
don't
know
if
it
was
about
six
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
it
it's
probably
in
that
neighborhood
600
to
a
thousand
to
a
million
dollars,
and
that
includes
preventing
future
flooding
by
putting
in
a
perimeter
drain
and
that
600
000
is
is
about
one
tenth
of
the
estimate
that
was
given
to
us.
It
doesn't
seem
realistic
to
me
that
estimate
doesn't
seem
realistic.
F
Meanwhile,
the
the
castle
boost
analysis,
which
was
the
gold,
is
the
gold
standard
I
mean.
It
seems
to
me
that
the
currency
of
the
realm,
when
it
comes
to
determining
renovation
of
old
buildings
for
Public
Safety,
came
out
in
an
estimate
of
24
million
dollars,
but
that
didn't
include
the
purchase
of
the
of
the
building
at
eight
and
a
half
million
I
didn't
realize
that
at
first
but
then
I
when
I
did.
F
It
was
kind
of
revelatory,
because
then
I
realized
that,
coincidentally,
the
cost
became
equivalent,
that
is,
cost
of
of
the
Third
Street
renovation
and
the
addition
became
equivalent
to
the
purchase
of
of
the
back
side
of
the
showers
I.
Don't
think
they
are
equivalent,
but
that's
what
I
was
that's.
What
I
was
given,
that
was
what
I
like
to
believe
I
think
it's
a
much
cheaper
option
to
stay
on
Third
Street,
so
there's
they
cost
differential
and
I.
Think
it's
important.
F
I
really
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
exceed
the
cost
moving
over
there
with
the
needs
of
the
police,
I'm
worried
about
the
danger
of
colloid,
locating
police
fire
in
civil
City,
especially
within
a
vulnerable
110
year
old
building.
F
Unlike
any
office
building.
You
know
this
is
the
Police
Department
fire
and
we
need
them
in
the
event
of
a
response
and
we
need
for
disaster,
and
this
building
doesn't
seem
up
to
the
task.
It
can't
be
brought
up
to
level
four,
which
is
the
the
standard
that
is
required
by
law
so
level.
F
Four
standards
can
be
achieved
if
we
build
a
new
building
or
it
could
be
achieved
by
renovating
the
Third
Street
Building,
not
bringing
that
up
to
level
four,
but
maybe
close
I
mean
it's
a
it's
a
solid
building
as
far
as
I
can
tell
me
of
concrete
and
steel,
as
opposed
to
Rick,
mortar
and
some
and
wood
beams,
and
we
could
have
the
addition
Robert
up
to
level
four.
F
In
the
event
of
a
disaster,
you'd
have
the
decapitation:
the
entire
civil
City
and
and
the
police
and
fire
and
I
I,
don't
think
that's
trivial,
yeah,
maybe
we'd
be
able
to
patch
something
together,
but
you
can
have
emergencies
all
over
the
city.
We
don't
have
time
to
I.
Think
Terry
in
that
emergency.
F
So
kind
of
hand
waving
and
saying
we've
got
a
plan.
Don't
worry,
isn't
satisfying
to
me
if
you
had
a
plan,
then
show
it
to
me
and
show
me
exactly
what
you're
going
to
be
doing.
I.
Don't
think
this
is
a
trivial
matter,
because
it's
it's
Public
Safety.
F
So
it's
a
110
year
old
building,
former
Furniture
Factory
it's
well
suited
for
office.
I
like
the
building
I,
understand
the
motivation
of
the
administration
to
acquire
it,
but
it's
not
suited
for
the
police
department,
because
the
most
important
aspect
of
this
to
me
is
that
no
police
officer
wishes
to
move
here,
they're
primarily
concerned
about
their
own
safety
and
their
primarily
concerned
about
their
ability
to
fulfill
their
duties.
F
This
is
what
they
do
so,
yes,
I'm
listening
to
them
and
if
it
were
half
and
half
or
even
20
percent
I'd
be
listening
pretty
hard,
but
when
it's
unanimous
that
they
don't
want
to
move
because
of
the
Ingress
egress
because
of
the
vulnerability
of
the
building,
because
of
the
fact
that
it
can't
withstand
disasters
and
the
like,
I
listen,
we
know
the
consequence
of
this.
This
decision
is
going
to
last
it's
going
to
last
for
decades.
F
I
find
that
there
is
some
driver
to
purchase
the
back
after
the
showers
and
I
said:
I
got
that
I
understand
where
the
administrator
should
want
to,
but
I
don't
believe
that
Public
Safety
funds
utilizing
those
shoehorning
the
police
into
the
old
building.
To
make
this
deal
happen
is
in
the
interest
of
the
community
and
I
have
to
say
I
rarely
feel
such
alarm
as
I
have
as
I
do
tonight.
I've
been
on
this
Council
for
20
years
and
I've
I.
F
Rarely
feel
that
we're
at
the
stage
of
making
a
very
bad
decision
to
do
harm
for
the
community.
David
sabog
was
here
earlier
and
and
I
served
with
him
for
a
while
in
an
adage
that
David
sabog
constantly
referred
to
as
Do
no
harm
and
that's
good
advice,
and
he
stood
at
the
podium
this
evening
and
said
very
succinctly
why
it's
impractical.
F
We
have
a
traffic
calming
showers,
Plaza
with
farmers,
market
and
events
and
a
beeline
Trail
and
a
new
development
all
converging
and
very
little
opportunity
for
the
police
to
come
and
go
when
they
got
to
leave
at
high
speed
and
they
got
to
get
somewhere
fast.
I
spoke
to
a
young
officer
when
I
did
the
tour
of
the
department,
and
she
said
you
know
what
I've
got
seconds
to
get
to
an
emergency.
I
don't
have
time
to
waste
that
person
I've
got
to
give
them
a
narcon
shot.
I
gotta
I
gotta
save
their
life.
F
So
if
you
slow
me
down
by
30
seconds
that
person
could
be
dead,
so
that's
she's
doing
her
Duty
she's
doing
her
due
diligence
she's,
just
not
thinking
just
about
herself
she's
thinking
about
her
role
as
a
police
officer
and
what
she
needs
to
do
to
fulfill
that
role.
So
I
I,
listen
pretty
hard
to
that.
I,
also:
listen
to
Eric
Spooner
Moore
who's,
the
president
of
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
he's
he's
lamenting
the
crime
in
the
community.
F
F
They
have
to
do
multiple
shifts,
and
so
they
they're
they're
stressed
they're
in
a
they're.
F
F
So
I
would
just
appeal
to
my
colleagues
Do
no
harm
as
David
sabach
said,
police
want
to
stay
put,
they
want
a
renovated
building,
they
want
an
expansion
or
they
want
a
new
building
and
I
think
that
they're
right
so
I
will
be
supporting
this
amendment
Amendment.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
I'm,
going
to
follow
up
directly
on
my
colleagues
parting
thought
of
this
idea
of
Do
no
harm,
because
it's
it's
often
invoked
to
preserve
the
status
quo.
G
We've
heard
it
many
times
in
the
context
of
housing,
Transportation
decisions,
many
things
as
if
the
status
quo
cannot
possibly
cause
harm
that
they're
that
the
the
way
things
are
is
always
the
way
they
should
be
and
I
reference
that,
because
I
I
don't
feel
that
way.
I
actually
have
a
different
view,
which
is
that
the
nature
of
both
policing
and
Public
Safety
is
and
should
be
changing
and
evolving
at
a
high
level.
I
think
that's
what
this
entire
conversation
is
about.
G
G
All
of
this
to
say
we
do
need
to
be
mindful
of
Evolutions
changes,
best
practices
among
Progressive
communities
who
are
working
to
address
these
thorny,
difficult
systemic
issues,
and
that's
what
I
see
is
the
real
value
of
integration
and
co-location
of
all
the
whole
range
of
Public
Safety
Services,
which
again
are
evolving
and
will
continue
to
change
and
evolve
so
I
think
we're
doing
harm
by
preserving
the
status
quo.
That
to
me
would
be
doing
harm
I'm,
trying
to
avoid
harm
so
I
reject
that
framework
that
the
status
quo
does
no
harm.
G
That
was
the
the
primary
focus
of
of
the
ad
hoc
committee,
but
we
know
that
is
not
actually
a
real
option
here,
based
on
extensive
analysis
from
experts
whose
profession
this
is
the
administration
concluded
that
it
would
be
a
fiscally
irresponsible
decision
and
use
of
taxpayer
dollars
to
expand
on
that
site,
and
they
will
not
pursue
that.
G
The
The
Narrative
that
there
was
an
ulterior
motive
of
acquiring
showers
and
that
were
shoehorning
Public
Safety
integration
into
that
purpose.
There
has
been
literally
no
evidentiary
basis
for
that.
It's
a
made-up
narrative
that
has
been
furthered
to
justify
a
particular
position,
but
there
it's
just
made
up
with
respect
to
Ingress
and
egress.
G
I
know
that
continues
to
be
an
important
point
of
discussion.
First
of
all,
I
think
it's
just
important
to
note
that
the
reason
police-
don't
you
know,
Chase
fleeing
Vehicles-
is
because
they
would
create
a
greater
risk
to
people
in
the
area
than
than
the
benefit
that
serves
emergency
responders,
always
have
a
duty
of
Safety
First,
no
matter.
The
context
everywhere
in
the
downtown
is
a
pedestrian,
dense
area.
G
As
we
talked
about
tonight,
Bloomington
Transit
is
located
to
the
current
next
to
the
current
police
police
headquarters,
the
transit
center,
as
is
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club,
a
playground
for
children,
a
pedestrian
path
that
crosses
their
parking
lot.
Multiple
sidewalks
High
pedestrian
activity
on
3rd
Street,
Washington
Lincoln.
G
Those
are
neighborhood
streets
that
are
used
extensively
by
the
police,
I've
heard
from
residents
on
those
streets
over
time
that
they
they
do
have
concerns
about
the
the
speed
of
police
vehicle
travel
on
those
streets,
which
is
just
to
note,
even
when
Sirens
are
not
on
it's
just
a
note
that
we
need
to
continually
be
working
on
improving
safety
with
respect
to
pedestrians,
bicyclist
drivers
of
vehicles
in
that
context,
but
there's
nothing
and
I'm
concerned
that
the
current
location
is
actually
less
safe
overall
for
Ingress
egress
than
the
proposed
showers
location.
G
It
definitely
has
more
children
and
more
pedestrian
activity
on
all
sides.
G
I
think,
additionally,
we've
heard
from
the
Bloomington
Fire
Department
that
their
experience
in
operating
emergency
calls
out
of
a
place
directly
next
to
the
B-Line
has
had
no
problems
that
this
is
a
framework
that
people
understand
that
when
Sirens
go
on
you,
you
wait
and
in
any
case
their
staff
are,
are
Adept
at
identifying
risks
and
and
avoiding
them
in
all
contexts
of
where
they're
driving
so
I,
don't
think.
That's
the
issue
it's
made
been
made
to
be
I.
G
Think
it's
a
little
bit
more
of
not
examining
the
status
quo,
the
current
situation
from
the
same
framework
or
lens
of
analysis
with
which
we're
applying
to
showers.
That
extends
to
the
need
for
a
traffic
study
or
quantitative
data,
for
instance,
to
justify
safe
routes
that
hasn't
been
done
at
the
current
facility
in
the
same
way.
So
I
think
again.
For
me,
what's
most
dispositive
is
is
I
think
this
is
a
positive
evolution
of
culture
of
Public,
Safety
and
functioning.
G
Just
operational
functioning,
Public
Safety
in
the
city
and
and
I
think
that's
to
everyone's
benefit
in
Bloomington
and
I'll.
Be
voting
no
on
the
amendment.
For
that
purpose
and
supporting
the
appropriation
ordinance,
thank
you.
AA
AA
Over
these
weeks
and
months
we
have
talked
a
lot
about
the
pros
and
cons
of
this
purchase
and
about
renovating
the
current
headquarters
and
I
just
want
to
say,
I
appreciate
everyone
who
has
reached
out
the
last
couple
of
months
who
has
weighed
in
here
and
I,
appreciate
people
who
have
taken
the
time
to
talk
to
me
after
I
reached
out
to
them,
including
some
retired
emergency
Personnel.
It
was
really
wonderful
to
just
hear
different
perspectives
from
across
the
community
in
this
process.
AA
So
for
what
comes
up
for
me,
a
lot
here
is
like
what
do
I.
What
do
I
find
the
most
compelling
and
I
just
use.
The
word
compelling
I
think
over
and
over
so
I
think
I
think
here
there
is
a
lot
that
is
compelling
for
the
move
to
showers
I
know.
Some
of
this
is
just
going
to
be
a
little
repetitive,
but
that's
where
we
are
I
know.
The
beeline
is
a
big
concern
for
all
of
us.
AA
The
comings
and
goings
of
police
cars
I
asked
about
the
beeline
at
our
first
meeting
on
this
topic.
Chief
decoff
said
most
patrol
cars
wouldn't
call
do
not
originate
from
headquarters,
but
respond
to
emergencies.
While
out
on
patrol
Chief
Moore
said
they
have
not
had
any
incidents
crossing
the
B-Line
currently
located
adjacent
to
it.
I,
of
course,
as
most
people
know,
take
bike
bed
safety
incredibly
seriously
and
I
find
the
Chiefs
answers
to
this
very
compelling
they
are
the
experts
and
I
believe
what
they're
saying
I
find
the
room
to
expand
in
the
future.
AA
Also
compelling
this
is
a
city
that
is
expanding
every
day
and
we
don't
have
enough
of
most
Services
right
now
to
accommodate
the
humans.
We
have,
and
that's
just
going
to
be
the
case
as
long
as
we
keep
things
exactly
as
they
are
so
I
think
the
ability
to
change
with
our
growing
city
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
AA
AA
There's
been
a
lot
of
talk
and
concern
about
parking
right
now.
The
current
Police
Headquarters
parking
is
not
secure.
We
also
have
a
parking
garage
adjacent
to
City
Hall,
that
we
cannot
charge
market
rate
parking
because
no
one
really
wants
to
use
it.
So
here
we
have
the
chance
to
upgrade
police
parking
without
extra
cost
by
co-locating
the
police
headquarters
to
showers.
AA
AA
AA
So,
for
the
same
reasons,
I
think
co-location
is
the
most
compelling
piece
of
this
idea
like
from
what
we
know
and
wanting
to
be
forward-thinking
and
wanting
to
I
think
do
what
we
say
is
that
Public
Safety
means
something
different
to
almost
everyone
to
many
many
people
feeling
safe
is
about
having
a
roof
over
your
head,
a
lot
of
departments
in
the
city
deal
with
that,
including
the
hand
including
hand
for
other
people
it's
about
getting
safely
from
their
home
to
their
job
on
a
daily
basis.
AA
AA
I
I
find
I
mean
so
that
to
me
is
that
to
me
is
the
most
compelling
piece
of
this
and
the
most
exciting
piece
that
City
staff
will
get
to
be
together
and
work,
potentially
work
on
projects
that
were
not
maybe
not
really
considered
just
by
being
physically,
apart
and
I.
Think
as
we
transform
how
we
provide
services
to
our
residents
and
what
our
residents
need
over
time
in
terms
of
Public,
Safety,
I,
really
I
really
think.
The
most
compelling
thing
is:
is
this
co-location
of
All
City
staff
or
most
City
staff?
AA
Okay,
I
know
I'm
getting
a
little
ahead
of
myself
here
in
the
city.
If
we
relocate
in
the
city
might
opt
to
sell
this
Third
Street
property,
but
I
also
think
about
what
could
be
done
in
a
space
if
the
city
opts
to
keep
this
property.
This
is
really
me
getting
ahead
of
myself
so
and
council
member
Flaherty
pointed
this
out
too,
and
I'm
I
agree
that
I
think
there's
probably
more
bike,
ped
Transit
activity
down
on
Third
Street.
Then
there
is
up
here.
AA
So
let
me
see
where
I
am
right
here:
okay,
so
that
blocks
third
Lincoln
Washington
Smith
is
the
place
with
very
high
bike:
ped
Transit
activity.
There
are
bike
Lanes
on
Lincoln
and
Washington.
The
transit
center
is
across
the
street.
It's
an
area
of
downtown
where
kids
can
get
around
by
bus
and
I.
Think
that's
really
important,
because
the
transit
center
is
across
the
block
from
the
boys
and
girls.
AA
Club
and
kiddos
actually
have
to
pretty
much
cross
through
the
police
station
right
now
to
get
from
the
bus
station
to
to
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club,
because
a
lot
of
those
kiddos
ride
the
bus.
So
here's
something
okay.
Also
the
rise
is
right.
There
Middle
Way
house,
the
project,
school
and
multiple
new
multi-family
developments
are
all
along
Third
Street,
so
something
the
city
doesn't
have
right
now
again
getting
ahead
of
myself.
AA
I
just
want
to
say
that
for
the
last
time
something
the
city
doesn't
have
in
its
limits
is
a
soccer
field,
and
one
of
the
cheapest
sports
in
the
world
to
play
is
soccer.
In
this
space
with
the
park
is
adjacent
to
everything
that
would
make
an
awesome
soccer
pitch
in
the
city
of
Bloomington
right
you've
got
the
boys
and
girls
club
who
can
always
use
more
space
for
outside
Play
It's.
The
healthiest
thing
you
can
give
kids,
other
kids
can
get
there
by
bus.
AA
It
would
be
an
exciting
new
thing
if
we
got
to
move
our
police
and
fire
up
here.
One
thing
that
hasn't
really
been
talked
about
tonight,
but
it
has
been
brought
up
multiple
times,
is
the
City's
Farmers
Market
and
that
people
think
it
doesn't
really
Jive
if
police
and
fire
HQ
are
located
in
showers.
A
lot
of
people
don't
really
want
the
farmer's
market
to
exist
anymore.
This
is
popular,
maybe
not
popular,
but
it
is
an
idea
of
something
that
we
can
also
think
about
right.
AA
Maybe
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
have
the
farmer's
market
there
anymore
or
to
have
a
farmer's
market
at
all.
We
have
really
awesome
markets
in
the
city
now
with
the
People's
Market
and
the
Woolery
Mill
and
other
little
pop-up
markets
across
town,
okay.
So
in
conclusion,
I
will
be
voting
now
on
this
amendment.
I
Thank
you,
I
keep
thinking
about.
What's
you
know
our
common
ground?
Is
we
all
realize
that
we
need.
I
The
police
in
the
fire
department
to
be
to
be
renovated
or
repaired
or
replaced
I
think
we
all
agree.
That's
probably
a
really
good
thing
that
they
are
together.
I
think
perhaps
that's
a
good
idea
too,
but
the
things
that
pop
in
my
head
are,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
achieve
these
goals
and
we
have
a
lot
of
smart
people
in
in
the
city
and
some
really
dedicated
employees
in
both
departments
and
a
couple
of
great
Chiefs,
good,
Administration,
I.
I
I
So
I
think
it's!
You
know.
This
is
kind
of
talking
about
the
amendment
and
so
I
I
I'm
still
going
to
vote
for
the
amendment
which
takes
showers
out
of
the
equation,
but.
I
Think
that's
such
a
bad
thing
just
because
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
put
this
puzzle
together
and
to
get
the
needs
of
our
city
and
our
Department's
met.
I
So
you
know,
let's,
let's
go
and
think
about
it
in
that
way,
at
least
that
that's
from
my
perspective,
that's
what
I
think
it's
it
the
structures
together,
it's
a
location,
it
doesn't
mean
programs,
it
doesn't
mean
Services.
We
can
do
that
wherever
we
are.
However,
we
do
that.
C
The
Ingress
and
the
egress
of
the
problematic
location
here
is
just
a
small
piece
of
why
I
think
this
is
not
a
good
investment
in
the
public
safety
dollars
that
have
been
carefully
earmarked
for
police
and
for
fire,
while
I
believe
there
is
a
need
for
immediate
need
to
take
care
of
the
station.
One
and
other
fire
department
needs.
That's
why
I
will
be
supporting
Amendment
one
to
take
showers
out
of
the
equation
so
that
we
can
move
in
a
direction
that
does
have
more
feasibility
to
it.
C
Feasibility
study
to
it
that
does
have
more
opportunity
for
us
to
truly
talk
to
the
stakeholders
here,
which
has
not
been
done.
We
have
been
treating
the
fop
Representatives,
who
have
been
here
Faithfully
through
the
ad
hoc
meetings
and
these
meetings.
We
treat
them
like
they're
members
of
the
public.
C
Public
Works
has
a
completely
different
purpose
than
all
of
it.
You
need
functional
spaces
for
all
of
these
public
services
to
exist.
I
am
not
sold
on
showers
as
being
the
right
place.
We
keep
saying,
there's
no
perfect
location,
oh
we'll
fix
whatever
problems.
There
might
be
back
here,
no
there's
no
perfect
location,
but
you
do
have
a
good
location
at
Third
Street,
it's
a
solid
building.
It
is
not
a
failing
facility,
as
has
been
characterized
at
the
beginning.
This
meeting
it
is
perfectly
functional
for
the
for
the
needs
of
the
police.
C
They
tell
us
this
time
after
time
when
they
come
to
us
and
for
those
of
us
that
have
taken
the
time
to
go
to
them.
I
hear
a
lot
of
conversations
that
haven't
even
been
brought
up
and
this
this
this
venue-
let's
just
take,
for
instance,
social
workers,
I
I,
won't
say
who
I've
been
talking
to
about
what
they're
thinking
and
what
they're
feeling.
C
But
they
are
close
to
the
transit
station
where,
when
people
come
off
the
buses
from
that
transit
station-
and
they
are
new
to
Bloomington-
and
this
happens
maybe
more
frequently
than
you
might
realize-
one
of
the
first
things
they
do
is
come
to
the
police
station,
where
they
can
get
help
or
they
can
get
resources.
And
so
that
is
something
that
is
happening
in
the
current
location.
C
Where
that
location
is
people
needing
assistance
knowing
where
to
go
going
to
the
police
station
and
then
getting
the
referrals
from
our
wonderful
Social
Work
team
that
is
now
embedded
in
the
BPD,
which
is
a
good
thing.
It's
an
Innovative
thing,
it's
an
evolutionary
thing.
Bloomington
is
not
behind
the
curve
there.
When
we
talk
about
fear
of
change
and
loss
of
familiarity
and
Status
Quo,
and
that's
so
condescending
to
the
evolution
that
the
police
department
has
has
seen
over
the
years.
C
You
know
that
hearing
Jeff
Richardson
talk
about
his
early
experiences
on
this
Council
and
good
experiences
with
the
police
officers.
Even
you
know
decades
ago
who
care
about
this
community
they're,
not
a
bunch
of
thugs
out
there
wanting
to
pull
their
guns
out
on
people
that
isn't
happening
here
in
because
we
wouldn't
allow
it.
That's
not
who
Bloomington
is
so
any
talk
about.
Somehow
this
move
to
showers
is
a
move
to
make
us
put
us
on
the
map,
as
some
Progressive
Community
I'm
not
buying
that
argument
we're
already
in
a
good
place
here.
C
C
The
best
thing
we
can
do
is
allow
them
to
stay
where
they
are,
give
them
the
money
to
renovate
and
to
expand
and
to
meet
the
needs
that
they
have
now
and
also
into
the
future
the
issue
of
attrition
and
where
our
Police
Department
is
right
now
and
then
talk
about
we're
a
growing
city,
we're
getting
bigger,
we're
going
to
need
to
have
room
to
expand.
You
tell
me
how
long
it's
going
to
take
to
make
up
for
the
fact
that
we
are
down
22
officers.
C
So
again,
a
continuity
of
operational
plans
and
resiliencies
Kudos
during
that
flood
police
and
fire
kept
functioning
both
of
their
headquarters
got
obliterated
in
that
flood,
as
as
many
buildings
nearby
in
the
downtown
area
were
wiped
out
with
that
terrible
flood,
but
neither
the
police,
neither
the
fire
department
stopped
operating
because
they're
resilient
they
are.
They
know
how
to
deal
with
emergencies.
That's
what
they
do
and
I
think
the
talk
about.
You
know
if
everybody's
here
under
the
same
roof
and
we
have
a
tornado
and
we
have
an
earthquake-
sure
that's
a
pretty
remote
possibility.
C
But
again
people
have
brought
to
my
attention
the
issue
of
9
11
and
when
Rudy
Giuliani
decided
to
put
everything
in
the
Twin
Towers,
and
we
all
know
what
happened
on
that
day.
That
city
was
was
in
a
disaster
for
more
reasons
than
one
so
I
think
this
idea
about
integration
versus
isolation,
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
police
and
fire
being
isolated
in
areas
of
our
city,
where
they
can
respond
quickly
from
either
Central
or
nearby
locations.
C
That's
a
good
thing
for
Public
Safety,
putting
them
all
together
in
one
roof
here,
just
intuitively
common
sense,
wise
forget
about
co-location
and
is
that
the
trend
of
the
day
that
big
cities
are
talking
about.
This
is
the
way
we
look
Progressive
to
put
everybody
into
the
same
roof
I'm,
not
buying
it
each
department,
whether
it's
fire
or
whether
it's
police,
they
have
a
certain
functionality
and
they
need
they
need
a
building
in
which
they
can
function.
C
This
is
not
the
building
so
again,
I'll
be
voting
for
Amendment,
one
I
hope
everybody
will
stop
with
the
you
know,
just
not
listening,
not
paying
attention
and
not
doing
the
feasibility
study
and
the
due
diligence
that
was
required.
This
was
coming
up
way
too
fast.
Council
did
not
have
the
opportunity
to
do
our
due
diligence,
and
but
when
more
information
comes
to
light,
I
am
more
and
more
convinced.
This
is
not
the
right
use
of
our
taxpayer
dollars.
Thank
you.
L
Well,
there
have
been
a
lot
of
interesting
points
made
this
evening
and
I
appreciate
everybody
being
so
engaged
and
thoughtful
about
this
process
and
I
could
certainly,
you
know,
talk
a
long
time
about
some
of
the
things
my
colleagues
have
said,
but
I'll
try
to
keep
this
short
Bloomington
Police
Department
needs
more
space.
They
have
needed
more
space.
For
many
years
the
mayor
has
taken
expansion
of
the
current
BPT
BPD
station
off
the
table.
L
L
L
I.
Don't
think
that
is
a
smart
way
to
go.
We
have
already
increased
local
income
taxes,
we've
already
issued
bonds
last
year.
In
the
amount
of
10
million
dollars
that
did
also
raise
our
property
taxes.
I
think
the
prudent
thing
to
do
is
to
take
this
opportunity
and
this
Bond
funding,
for
which
we
pass
the
Ed
lit
and
buy
showers
and
put
the
police
station
in
the
fire
Administration
there.
L
That
said,
I
will
not
be
approving
any
use
of
credit
funds
or
Creed
funds,
depending
on
how
you
prefer
to
pronounce
that
which
I
believe
is
part
of
the
mayor's
plan
to
shore
up
the
funding
for
renovating
showers.
I,
don't
think,
that's
an
appropriate
use
of
creed
funds,
so
I'll
keep
that
in
mind
and
let's
work
on
a
different
way
to
make
up
that
approximately
two
million
dollar
funding
shortfall
later
this
year.
Thank
you.
H
Madam,
chair
I
mean
I'm.
This
is
a
big
enough
debate,
as
councilman
Rollo
has
pointed
out
that
I
hope
that
we
actually
engage
in
debate
and
that
there
be
a
you
know,
an
opportunity
for
a
second
round
of
rebuttals,
so
I'm
hoping
that
this
is
not
the
last
opportunity
for
love
to
speak,
but
I'm
very
eager
to
hear
from
all
my
colleagues
too.
C
A
A
A
I
already
know
that
we're
going
to
base
this
on
imperf,
we
are
going
to
make
this
decision.
Everybody
on
this
Deus
is
going
to
make
this
decision
based
on
imperfect
information.
We
are
not
going
to
know
everything
there
is
to
know
to
make
the
very,
very,
very
best
decision,
so
we
are
all
doing
the
best
we
can
on
that.
I
do
find
it
very
compelling
to
think
in
terms
of
a
public
safety
function
and
a
police
function
that
grows
and
evolves
and
changes
over
time.
A
I
wholeheartedly
agree,
I,
believe
our
police
department
has
done
that
and
and
I
think
that
that
fact
has
been
recognized
by
other
police
departments.
It's
been
recognized
by
Kalia,
so
I
do
think
that
we
already
do
that.
What
is
not
compelling
to
me
is
the
sub
is
the
suggestion
that
police
department
has
to
be
right
next
door.
A
In
order
for
this
to
happen,
there's
almost
an
implication
there
that
that
they
need
to
have
their
feet
held
to
the
fire,
to
do
the
right
thing
and
to
behave
with
values
that
are
consistent
with
our
community's
values
and
I.
Don't
find
that
to
be
a
compelling
argument,
I
think
that
our
police
have
advanced
and
evolved
over
time
with
social
workers,
with
with
other
different,
not
the
use
of
non-sworn
officers,
with
a
lot
of
different
things
without
being
co-located
without
having
someone
without
being
next
door
to
City
Administration.
A
So
that's
not
a
particularly
compelling
issue
to
me.
The
police
Viewpoint
is
very
compelling
to
me.
We
talk
a
lot
about
on
on
Council
and
we
talk
a
lot
in
our
work
about
lived
experiences.
People
who
are
actually
front
line
who
actually
have
to
do
this
work
and
I
yes,
I,
do
listen
to
those
voices
and
I,
do
listen
and
hear
the
concerns
about
ways
in
which
showers
would
not
be
inadequate.
That's
part
of
the
reason
I
pushed
so
hard
tonight.
A
I
still
have
issues
with
Ingress
and
egress,
and
that's
why
I
pushed
so
hard
tonight
and
I
said
help
me
feel
better
about
this.
What
I've
heard
so
far
is
okay,
we'll
fix
it.
We
get
it
we'll
fix
it.
What
I
didn't
hear
was
how
and
I
heard
some
I
got
a
little
closer
to
that
tonight
and
I
heard
some
suggestions
as
to
how
that
might
be,
but
I
still
I
still
have
some
concerns
about
Ingress
and
egress.
A
Something
else
I
find
compelling
is
what
I
have
heard
from
scores
of
residents
literally
scores
of
resonance,
who
have
concerns
about
moving
police
to
showers.
For
any
number
of
reasons.
One
of
those
is
the
price
tag
on
that
included.
Are
the
traffic
patterns
so
close
to
a
school
so
close
to
churches
so
close
to
the
B-Line
and
Farmers
Market
I
have
to
take
those
seriously
I
wish.
We
had
been
left
with
two
genuine
options
here
and
I
find
that
some
a
source
of
frustration
in
this
process.
A
What
I'm
hearing
is
well,
we
could
buy
showers.
This
is
a
once
in
a
generation
opportunity
and
there's
really
nothing
else.
We
could
do.
There
is
something
else
we
could
do.
We
could
look
at
it
in
addition
to
our
Third
Street
and
we're
not
we're
being
presented
with
a
vote
up
or
down
on
one
issue
and
I
find
that
very
frustrating
I
don't
feel
like.
A
We
have
adequately
pursued
the
option
of
what
a
serious
expansion
we
I,
don't
believe,
we've
taken
a
serious
look
at
what
an
expansion
of
Third
Street
would
actually
do
so,
and
those
are
some
of
the
missing
pieces
of
information
for
me
that
leave
me
still
thinking
so
I
look
forward
to
hearing
my
other
colleagues.
H
So
I
was
presented
with
a
handout
of
a
putative
slideshow
from
Deputy
Mayor
Carmichael,
which
I
appreciate
that
sort
of
gives
a
last
argument
for
purchasing
the
building
behind
me,
and
there
are
three
slides
labeled
benefits,
Four
Points
in
each
slide
and
I
find
myself
interested
in
each
point,
I
kind
of
wanted
to
go
through
them.
First
point
says
it's:
this
is
a
once
in
generation
opportunity
to
unite
Public
Safety,
Under,
One,
Roof,
technically
plans,
B
and
C
are
also
that,
because
they
both
propose
to
put
fire
and
police
together.
H
What
I
think
she
meant
here
was.
This
is
a
once
a
generation
opportunity
to
unite
Public
Safety
Under
One
Roof
with
City
Hall,
and
in
that
case
it's
I
agree
that
that
that's
true
so
I'm
going
to
say
that's
a
you
know
an
iffy.
One
second
point
was
projected
to
serve
Public
Safety
purpose
for
at
least
30
years
due
to
expansion,
opportunities.
I
agree,
that's
true,
I
think
that's
true.
The
third
point
the
CFC
space
has
been
meticulously
maintained,
is
extremely
well
engineered
and
it's
flexible
in
its
possible
applications
for
our
use.
H
I
don't
agree
with
this
because
it
still
needs
15
million
dollars
of
renovation.
It's
still
a
significant
price
tag,
no
matter
what
choice
we
make
so
I
mean
the
while
it's
there's
a
benefit
to
it
being
having
room
for
expansion.
You
know
I
mean
the
there's
still
going
to
be
substantial
renovation
necessary
in
this
building.
H
According
to
the
administration,
the
next
Point
proceeds
from
the
sale
of
the
existing
police
building
property
would
be
used
to
offset
the
purchase
price
of
the
new
space,
but
the
administration
keeps
negating
that
by
talking
about
I
mean
there's
a
later
point
where
it
says
the
building
has
significant
deficiencies,
including
the
ongoing
threat
of
flooding.
I
mean
this.
H
If,
if
they
only
think
the
value
of
the
property
is
the
land,
then
I
find
that
problematic
and
maybe
a
waste
of
taxpayer
money,
that's
value
that
could
be
sold
to
somebody
who
would
use
the
building
existing,
so
I
feel
that's
contradictory
and
I.
Don't
agree
with
that
point.
The
next
benefit.
It
will
provide
far
superior
working
conditions
that
should
Aid
in
employee
retention
and
expansion.
I
would
ask
far
superior
for
whom
the
fop
seems
to
think
that
it
won't
be
far
superior.
H
Maybe
it
will
benefit
the
administrations,
the
various
Departments
of
the
administration,
but
I,
don't
agree
with
that
point.
The
next
Point
provides
adequate
and
appropriate
room
for
each
employee
to
perform
their
duties
to
store
evidence
properly
and
to
provide
room
for
meetings
and
equipment.
I
definitely
agree
with
that.
It
would
definitely
do
that.
The
showers
would
the
next
point.
The
shower
space
is
88
compliant
accessible
and
includes
an
elevator
agreed
that
that
is
a
benefit
of
purchasing
showers.
H
The
eighth
Point
purchasing
and
remodeling
showers
allows
existing
operations
to
continue
with
that
Interruption.
Well,
that
would
also
be
true
with
an
addition
or
new
construction.
So
I,
don't
think
this
point
is
valid.
I,
don't
agree
with
it.
H
If
you
were
to
expand
in
Plan
B
you'd
build
a
new
building
move
as
many
functions
as
you
can
into
it,
and
then
you
might
have
some
disruption
so,
but
you
definitely
wouldn't
with
a
plan
C
where
you
build
on
you
a
whole
new
site,
the
ninth
Point
police
departments
operate
successfully
in
urban
environments
across
the
country.
Yes,
that's
true,
I
agree
with
that.
You
know.
H
If
our
department
had
to
work
in
a
more
dense
environment
because
the
city
itself
was
denser,
we
would
find
a
way
to
make
it
work.
So
I
agree
with
that.
The
next
point:
an
investment
in
this
space
makes
far
more
sense
than
continuing
to
put
money
into
an
undersized,
outdated
building
with
significant
deficiencies,
including
the
ongoing
threat
of
flooding.
I
think
this
is
a
false
choice.
I
think
I
mean
I
I.
H
The
fop
believes
that
it
needs
very
little,
even
if
we
accept
Ms
koontz's
Assumption
of
a
million
dollars,
seven
hundred
thousand
to
a
million
dollars
for
fixing
the
drainage
issue
around
the
building
I
mean
if
we
don't
feel
the
need
to
renovate
the
existing
building,
then
we
are
saving
ourselves
several
million
dollars
and
that
plan
becomes
more
competitive.
So
the
the
choice
we're
being
offered
here
is
not
really
a
choice.
H
It's
take
it
or
leave
it
a
plan,
a
so
I,
don't
agree
with
the
I
disagree
that
the
investment
in
the
space
necessarily
makes
more
sense.
The
11th
point
the
building
is
in
a
great
location,
and
this
proposed
move
is
a
fantastic
use
of
historic
building.
It's
in
a
great
location
for
City
Hall,
it's
in
a
great
location
for
office
space.
It
has
been
argued
that
it's
not
as
good
at
greater
location
for
a
police
department.
So,
while
I'm
not
strongly
against
this
point,
I
don't
really
agree
with
it.
H
And,
finally,
the
12th
Point
City
departments
in
close
proximity
to
one
another,
better
serves
residents,
I'd
say
that's
true
and
I
would
agree
with
it.
But
I
would
also
point
out
that
we're
going
to
make
a
choice,
no
matter
what,
with
respect
to
location
right
now,
I
just
did
a
Google
map
search
from
City
Hall
to
I
picked
a
place
in
the
Southeast
corner
of
the
city,
which
is
in
the
opposite
direction
from
the
police
department.
As
this
building
is,
I
chose
the
restaurant
and
bar
called
C3
right
now.
H
A
Google
map
distance
showed
that
it's
an
eight
minute
drive
from
the
police
headquarters.
It's
an
11-minute
drive
from
here.
A
movement
of
the
police
station
would
serve
some
parts
of
the
city
more
optimally
and
some
less.
We
can
argue
that
perhaps
moving
it
north
and
west
might
slightly
serve
the
growing
West
Side
more
than
the
east
side,
but
I
think
it's
a
wash.
Somebody
is
going
to
benefit
and
somebody's
not
going
to
benefit
from
the
relocation
of
I
mean
from
the
from
with
respect
to
response
time.
H
H
Decisive
points
or
the
dispositive
points
is
my
colleague,
Mr
Flaherty
likes
to
say,
come
down
to
the
issue
of
the
fitness
of
this
building,
for
this
purpose
for
its
location,
its
durability
and
its
accessibility,
I
think
everyone
is
a
different
definition
with
the
location
of
safety.
I've
said
this
before
I
said
it.
This
year
we
shouldn't
design
our
churches
for
Easter
Sunday.
We
shouldn't
design
our
parking
lots
for
Black
Friday
and
we
shouldn't
widen
our
roads
for
the
worst
emergency.
H
The
mayor
makes
a
good
point
about
the
ongoing
day-to-day
benefit
of
departments
being
co-located,
but
that's
also
an
argument
for
Public
Works
staying
in
showers
or
utilities
moving
in
here
or
BT
being
nearby.
All
those
other
employees
would
theoretically
benefit
from
seeing
each
other.
So
this
is
really
about
co-location
of
Public
Safety,
specifically,
and
not
the
some
general
principle
that
every
Department
in
City
Hall
every
Department
in
the
city
should
be
in
City,
Hall
I.
Don't
think
anybody
really
does
think
that
the
current
location
of
the
headquarters
isn't
less
safe.
H
In
my
opinion,
if
you
add
an
addition,
it's
going
to
close
off
the
sidewalk
that
currently
is
on
the
west
side
of
the
building,
which
goes
through
the
parking
lot.
If
we're
worried
about
children
in
the
park,
one
of
the
things
that
the
police
has
said
they
would
like
they'll
do
is
fence
off
the
parking
lot.
This
would
give
give
us
a
reason
to
do
so.
H
If
there's
more
headquarters
there-
and
you
know,
I-
think
that
that
would
prevent
the
Stray
soccer
ball
as
nice
as
it
might
be,
to
have
a
soccer
field
in
this
area.
I'm
sure
there's
some
already,
but
it
would
be
less
likely
for
children
to
wander
there
so
I'm
not
really
persuaded
on
the
benefit
of
the
location.
H
H
H
As
far
as
accessibility
goes
former
council
member
sabag
who
took
office,
the
Year
this
building
was
occupied
and
in
serving
three
terms
here,
pointed
out
a
very
interesting
thing
that
Eighth
Street
was
intentionally
calmed
when
City
Hall
moved
to
showers,
it
did
used
to
go
through
and
it
was
intentionally
calmed
for
the
sake
of
pedestrianism
so
like
that
was
maybe
the
first
time
that
that
point
had
been
brought
up
and
I
thought.
It
was
very
interesting.
H
I
wonder
why
maybe
CAC
isn't
willing
to
cut
the
building
apart
and
sell
smaller
parts
of
it.
Maybe
because
they're
just
trying
to
I
mean
I've
heard
tonight
for
the
first
time
also
that
they
are
looking
to
build
more
Workforce
housing.
I
commend
them
on
that
by
the
way
and
indirectly,
our
purchase
of
this
building
would
enable
more
Workforce
housing
in
in
the
area.
H
Although
I
question
whether
they
would
build
it
in
Monroe
County
but
I,
don't
quite
know
why
we
wouldn't
be
I
mean
if,
if
they
offered
us
a
chunk
of
the
building,
say
to
just
move
fire,
fire
could
definitely
benefit
from
being
located
and
I
would
love
to
see
them
in
the
building.
But
maybe
we
don't
need
to
buy
all
the
building.
Maybe
we
can
build
I
mean
if
we
can
punch
a
hole
in
in
it
to
connect
the
entire
to
the
building.
We
can
punch
one
hole
to
connect,
one
small
part
of
it.
H
We
don't
have
to
do
it
all
and
it
according
to
the
architect
tonight.
There
really
is
only
one
point
where
there
would
be
a
connection
between
the
buildings.
H
I
haven't
gotten
a
guarantee
that
Creed
funds
won't
be
requested
of
us
and
I'm
disappointed
by
that
it
sounds
to
me,
like
I'm,
leaning
against
the
showers
building,
but
I
also
recognize
the
benefit
of
having
Public
Safety
in
the
building.
I.
Don't
think
that
the
the
Ingress
egress
issue
is
dispositive
I
think
that
we
could
and
would
have
to
solve
the
problem,
and
it
might
make
things
a
little
bit
slower.
H
I
do
not
blame
a
police
officer
whatsoever
for
wanting
to
get
to
a
call
as
quickly
as
possible,
but
you
know
I
I,
just
don't
think.
That's
enough
reason
to
say
no
to
showers
so,
like
I
said,
I
mean
I
I,
don't
like
the
way
this
was
presented.
I,
don't
like
the
way
that
we
were
asked
to
decide
already
in
two
weeks
back
in
what
was
it
December
I'm
glad
we
took
the
time
to
study
it.
H
I
do
believe
that
my
research
showed
that
there
were
there
was
a
better
plan,
B
option
than
what
the
administration
is
willing
to
offer,
but
I
can't
make
them
do
it.
I
do
also
believe
that
CFC,
you
know
they're
eager
to
sell
but
I'm
I'm
questioning,
who
else
would
want
to
acquire
this
building
at
this
point,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
available
next
year.
H
You
know
I
think
that
we
could
have
used
a
better,
a
better
plan,
I'm
just
I'm
still
I.
Don't
know
I'm
still
and
I,
don't
know
I'm
eager
to
hear
feedback
from
my
colleagues.
Thank
you
especially
councilmember
Sims.
A
K
J
Is
the
amendment
and
I
think
my
comments
are
best
reserved?
Should
this
not
pass
for
us
to
discuss
it
in
the
actual
app
board,
but
there's
also
a
chance
that
you
know
we
may
not
get
there,
but
briefly,
there's
been
a
lot
first
thing:
I
do
want
to
say,
is
I
appreciate
the
members
and
the
formation
of
the
ad
hoc
committee
that
did
some
work
in
this
area.
J
I
think
it
was
very,
very
helpful,
I'll
digress,
just
a
bit
I
think
I
heard
some
weakers
ago,
or
so
some
comparison
between
an
ad
hoc
committee
and
for
an
example.
The
old
standing,
Public,
Safety,
Committee,
I
I
think
there's
no
comparison
there,
but
that's
not
what
we're
talking
about
tonight.
In
fact,
what
I've
heard
tonight
a
lot
of
has
been
either
referendums
or
indicted,
as
opposed
to
the
facility
to
the
Future
growth
to
the
space
needs
we're
talking
about
status,
quo
reform,
integrated
policing,
you
know
some
recruitment.
J
All
these
are
important,
but
I'm,
not
so
sure.
It's
a
part
of
what
we're
discussing
tonight
with
this
facility
versus
or
plan
a
versus
Plan
B
versus
plan
C,
and
should
this
not
pass?
Would
probably
be
hearing
some
of
the
same
things
again
when
we
get
to
the
actual
Apple,
so
I'll
be
brief.
I
am
very
thankful
for
all
the
comments
I've
heard
tonight
wish
I
was
a
hundred.
K
J
But
I
am
here
nonetheless,
so
one
of
the
things
I
think
some
of
my
colleagues
would
like
to
hear
is
that
I
plan
to
vote
no
on
this
amendment.
Thank
you.
A
C
I
would
like
to
address
the
issue
of
the
flat
out
refusal
by
the
administration
by
the
mayor
that
if
we
do
pass
Amendment
one
and
pass
on
the
showers
building,
but
want
to
then
focus
our
attention
on
Third
Street
that
he
won't
be
willing
to
do
the
addition,
which
is
exactly
what
we're
talking
about
to
expand,
to
allow
police
and
fire
to
be
together,
integrate
the
operations
in
a
little
better
fashion
to
make
sure
that
they
do
have
the
space
not
only
for
the
for
the
here
and
now,
but
also
for
the
future,
so
that
flat
out
refusal
and
then
there's
also
that
additional
I
took
it
kind
of
as
a
threat
that
if
we
go
in
that
direction,
then
we'll
be.
C
We
as
a
council
will
be
forced
to
raise
more
taxes
next
year.
In
order
to
get
the
funding
to
do
the
addition.
Well,
we
did
raise
taxes.
We
raised
the
economic
development
local
income
tax
last
year
for
the
purpose
of
delegating
having
a
certain
pot
of
that
money,
the
buckets
that
we
call
them
for
Public,
Safety,
I.E,
police
and
fire
so
living
within
our
means
and
allowing
all
of
that
Ed
lit
money
to
be
used
for
the
purposes
that
we're
talking
about
here
tonight.
C
C
C
We
are
working
for
the
purpose
of
Public
Safety
and
doing
the
right
thing
for
the
police
department
with
the
money
that
we
have
designated
to
do
it
and
I
just
still
believe
that
the
showers
purchase
is
a
circuitous
way
around
that
that,
doesn't
you
utilize
that
Ed
lit
money
in
the
way
it
was
designed
and
that
the
the
threat
that
you
know?
Oh,
if
you
don't
do
what
I
want
you're
going
to
be
forced
with
another
bad
decision
that
the
Public's
not
going
to
like
you're,
going
to
have
to
raise
their
taxes
again?
F
Yeah,
this
has
been
a
good
debate.
I
I'd,
like
first
to
refer
to
my
colleague
council
member
Flaherty.
His
characterization
of
my
statement
is
the
status
quo.
I
think
is
a
mischaracterization.
F
It's
not
a
position
of
stasis.
I
support
expansion,
I,
actually
support
Plan,
B
I
support
the
retaining
the
Third
Street
facility,
renovating
that
and
then
expanding
on
site.
So
it's
it's
not
a
status
quo
position.
F
It
recognizes
the
need
for
expansion
in
terms
of
the
I
I'm
kind
of
mystified
by
the
idea
that
the
building
that
exists
there,
cinder
block
and
and
and
steel
that
was
built
in
the
mid
60s
to
be
a
police
station
is
somehow
antiquated,
but
the
110
50
year
old
building
here
is
somehow
you
know
acceptable
or
will
Overlook
the
fact
that
it's
that
it's
110
years
old
and
was
never
built
to
be
a
police
station.
It
was
built
to
be
a
Furniture.
Factory
can
be
made
into
a
nice
office
space.
F
But
that's
it
doesn't
go
any
further.
So
that's
I
I,
don't
find
that
convincing
councilman
Rosenberger
invoked
testimony
by
Chief,
decoff
and
Chief
Moore
and
I
I
must
say,
as
I
said
last
time
it
referenced
the
department
heads
with
all
due
respect
to
them,
they're,
not
in
a
position
to
counter
the
wishes
of
the
mayor.
F
A
hundred
percent
of
the
officers
don't
want
to
move
here,
but
department
heads-
and
in
this
case
the
chief
of
police
has
the
parsest
words
very
carefully
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
I
would
say
that
the
I
am
I
am
very
perturbed
by
the
process.
F
Part
of
the
process
is
this
sort
of
sort
of
Damocles
of
of
the
threat
that
we're
we
need
to
expand
and
therefore,
if
we
don't,
if
we
don't
take
the
showers,
then
expansions
out
of
the
question,
because
the
Third
Street
facility
is
just
too
Antiquated,
we
can't
expand
it's
a
waste
of
money.
I
think
that's
nonsense.
F
The
current
mayor
will
be
out
of
office
in
11
months,
so
responding
to
councilmember,
Piedmont
Smith's
worry.
What
would
we
do
with
the
money?
Well,
we've
got
a
palette
of
of
things
to
use
for
the
money.
We
have
a
lot
of
public
safety
projects
to
use
in
the
meantime,
and
we
could
begin
the
renovation
of
the
existing
Third
Street
facility.
The
remaining
funds
can
be
used
by
the
future
mayor
and
with
future
Revenue
coming
in
I.
F
F
F
We
would
have
room
for
at
least
50
more
I
would
just
conclude
by
saying,
if
you're,
in
a
quandary,
if
you're
unsure
about
this,
then
air
on
the
side
of
those
who
are
going
to
be
affected,
the
preferences
of
those
who
are
occupying
it
they're,
the
ones
who
are
going
to
be
living
in
it,
they're
going
to
be
working
in
it,
they're
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
serving
the
community.
F
L
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
since
council
member
Rallo
referred
to
my
previous
comments
and
I
think
they
were
misunderstood.
So
what
I
said
was
if
we
disapprove
the
shower's
purchase
as
part
of
the
use
of
the
bond
funds
that
we
already
approved
in
December,
we
would
have
to
issue
a
general
obligation
bond,
which
is
an
increase
in
property
taxes
to
get
funds
to
give
the
Bloomington
Police
Department
the
space
that
they
need.
L
So,
in
other
words,
if
let's
say
the
next
administ,
let's
say
we,
we
decide
a
majority
of
council
members
decides
yes
on
this
amendment
we
take
the
shower's
purchase
out
of
what
the
bond
appropriation
is
okay.
So
we
already
heard
from
the
mayor
that
he's
not
going
to
expand
the
current
BPD
station,
so
we
would
use
the
money.
L
I
know
I'm
perfectly
aware
what
we
would
use
the
money
for,
because
that
was
made
clear
tonight
and
earlier
you
know,
for
the
fire
department
for
the
station,
one
rebuild
station
three
possible
new
or
some
significant
reconstruction
renovation
toss,
the
training
center
plus
somewhere.
The
admin
office
is
unclear
where
that's
great
I
mean
fire
needs
that
money,
but
and-
and
the
mayor
said
that
he
would
renovate
the
Third
Street
police
station,
but
he
is
he's,
he's
categorically
refused
to
build
an
expansion
onto
it.
L
Now
that
may
be
totally
messed
up,
but
that's
what
he
said
so
taking
him
at
his
word
where
so,
when
a
new
mayor
comes
in,
let's
say
that
new
mayor
wants
to
do
an
expansion
on
the
police
station
or
decides
we're
going
to
build
a
new
police
station
somewhere.
Where
is
that
money
going
to
come
from?
We
already
did
the
bond
based
on
the
Ed
lit
funds.
L
My
colleagues
was
not
a
good
process,
but
given
where
we
find
ourselves
now,
I
think
the
most
fiscally
prudent
thing
and
the
most
supportive
of
the
police
would
be
to
approve
the
shower's
purchase
because
then
at
least
we
have
sufficient
room
for
police
and
we
have
the
money
to
renovate
and
we
can
move
ahead
and
not
wait.
Another
11
months
before
the
police
could
start
getting
the
additional
space
that
they
need.
That
was
my
point.
A
H
J
H
AG
L
L
All
right,
so
this
this
is
a
housekeeping
Amendment,
since
we
are
now
in
2023.
We
need
to
change
the
number
of
this
ordinance,
so
this
amendment
would
change
the
name
of
the
ordinance
from
appropriation
ordinance
2206,
two
appropriate
appropriation
ordinance
2301.
L
A
A
I
B
H
G
F
J
A
H
We're
still
thinking
about
this
I'd
like
the
administration,
to
briefly
talk
about
what.
H
D
Thank
you
for
the
question:
Jason
Moore
fire
chief,
so
if
this
does
go
through
as
it
has
been
written,
the
current
plan
is
to
remodel
station
one,
so
that
would
be
all,
but
the
soft
cost
of
that
would
be
funded
through
this.
We
would
also
do
a
significant
remodel
of
station
three,
not
a
replacement
but
a
remodel,
and
it
would
allow
us
to
do
the
training
Logistics
facility
down
at
the
South
training
site,
with
some
Thomas,
pretty
close,
yes,
north
end
of
that
that
site.
D
What's
the
fate
of
station
four
station,
four
and
five
actually
have
received
significant
remodels.
It
has
us
two
with
with
this
year.
In
fact,
we
just
began
this
week
with
nearly
half
a
million
dollar
remodel
of
station
four.
It
is
still
on
the
replacement
list,
but
with
this
remodel
it
will
push
us
at
least
a
decade,
if
not
more
into
the
future,
for
continuing
to
use
that
facility.
N
K
A
Here
in
Chambers,
please
go
ahead.
Three
minutes.
AJ
Council
members,
Jeff
Rogers
representative
flp
blow
me
to
PD
just
a
reminder
that
if
this
does
pass,
not
the
entire
building
will
go
towards
Public
Safety,
even
though
it's
being
funded
all
by
Public
Safety.
So
I
would
please
remind
the
council
to
please
take
action
that
forces
the
administration
to
put
that
money
from
that
income
generating
property
back
in
towards
another
Bond
or
towards
the
public
safety
fund.
Eventually,
thank
you.
F
I'd
like
to
follow
up
on
that
too,
after
Deputy
Mayor,
do
you
have
a
response?
What
what
will
be
the?
Where
will
that
Revenue
it'll.
K
H
H
H
It
might
not
be
in
time
for
the
current
purchase
deal,
which
expires
next
week,
but
I.
Just
there
were
better
plans
or
there
were
plans
that
could
have
been
better
presented
and
not
it's
this
or
nothing
so
I
do
believe
that
it
would
not
be
the
end
of
the
world
if
the
building
were
not
acquired.
H
I
do
want
to
say
again
that
my
decision
was
knife's.
Edge
I
could
have
gone
either
way
on
it,
but
I
would
just
assume
turn
down
the
whole
ordinance,
because
I
think
it
was
Miss
begotten
and
it
could
have
been
done
better.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
I
find
myself
with
a
question
from
my
colleague,
Mr
Roland.
If
you
care
to
care
to
answer
it
in
response
comments
at
some
point,
which
is
I,
know
the
Creed
funds
being
used
for
it
have
been
a
particular
sticking
point,
those
aren't
being
appropriated
here
and
councilmember
Piedmont
Smith
mentioned
the
unlikeliness
unlikelihood
that
she
would.
G
You
know,
support
and
appropriation
of
those
funds
for
this
purpose
at
a
later
date
and
I
wonder
if
that
thinking
affects
councilman
Rollins
perception
with
respect
to
support
for
this
app
board
or
not
and
or
if
the
administration
committing
to
not
use.
Those
funds
would
affect
his
his
vote
on
the
on
the
app
board.
I'm
just
curious
what
the
breakdown
is
of
I.
G
I
I
was
referencing.
Customer
Piedmont
Smith's
mentioned
that
she
does
not
plan
to
support
the
appropriation
of
creed
funds
to
support
building
renovation
and
I
wondered
if
that
thinking
had
entered
your
thoughts
and,
additionally,
what
your
perspective
was
with
respect
to
if
the
administration
committed
not
to
use
those
funds
on
the
renovation,
whether
that
would
affect
your
thinking
on
support
or
against
the
the
app
board.
That's
all
that's.
H
H
The
Administration
has
said
we
want
to
use
Creed
funds,
they
haven't
promised
to
not
use
them,
I'm,
not
sure
what
assurances
I
have
that
they
won't
be
used.
I
guess
maybe
I
know
that
as
long
as
I'm
on
the
council,
however
long
that
is,
I
can
vote
no
to
the
use
of
creed
funds
for
Public
Safety,
but
again
the
setup
all
along
has
been.
You
know.
In
doing
this.
H
In
the
name
of
Public
Safety
with
Public
Safety
earmarked
dollars,
we
were
sold
the
Bond
as
public
safety,
and
yet
you
know
I
mean,
like
I
said,
my
vote
was
very
50.
50
and
I
could
go
either
way
on
it,
but
that
doesn't
help
things
any
if
I
had
had
an
insurance
that
Creed
funds
would
not
be
used.
That
might
have
made
a
difference
to
me.
I
hope
that
helps
I'm,
not
sure
that
answers
all
your
questions,
though,.
F
A
I
A
Really,
could
you
adjust
your
audio
in
some
way.
AC
AL
Okay
yeah,
so
so,
if
I
understand,
the
question
correctly
is
what
are
the
implications
if
this
appropriation
ordinance
as
amended,
is
not
passed
tonight
and,
as
I
alluded,
I
believe
in
our
last
meeting
or
the
last
meeting
that
I
attended,
the
bonds
were
issued
on
December
22nd,
and
you
know
on
the
basis
that
you
had
reasonable
expectations
to
spend
the
proceeds
within
a
certain
time
frame
and
I
don't
want
to
go
into
all
the
minutia
of
the
federal
tax
regulations.
AL
It's
quite
quite
extensive,
I
I
will
say
in
a
general
sense
the
longer
that
there
is
a
delay
appropriating
the
proceeds.
None
of
the
dollars
can
be
spent
for
any
of
the
projects
and
what
it
likely
means
is
that
any
sort
of
Arbitrage
earnings,
in
other
words
investment
earnings
in
excess
of
the
Arbitrage
yield
of
the
bond.
The
likelihood
that
you're
going
to
be
able
to
keep
those
to
fund
project
cost
is
going
to
go
down.
AL
And
the
reason
for
that
is
you
have
to
spend
proceeds
within
a
certain
period
of
time
and
hit
certain
benchmarks
in
order
to
be
able
to
retain
those
Arbitrage
earnings
and
so
the
longer
of
the
of
a
delay
there
is
and
appropriating
the
money
for
the
project,
the
the
more
delay
before
they
can
be
spent
and
the
less
likely
you'll
be
able
to
keep
the
any
Arbitrage
earnings
and
in
this
current
interest
rate
environment.
Those
are
significant
dollars.
AL
I
believe
the
last
estimate
I
saw
from
from
the
city's
Municipal
advisor
is
it
was
estimated
those
would
be
somewhere
on
the
order
of
750
000
to
a
million
dollars
and
just
dependent
on
the
draw
schedule
and
when
they're
actually
spent
so
so
on
a
macro
Center.
The
the
longer
delay,
the
less
likely
that
you
could
be
able
to
keep
those.
H
AL
A
H
I
I
forget
his
name:
I
can't
see
it
either.
We
know
that
there's
multiple
projects
to
be
done
with
this
Bond,
it's
not
all
going
into
a
single
building.
How
much
needs
to
be
spent
at
what
rate
and
could
the
the
the
use
of
dollars
that
are
for
the
like
the
fire
stations,
the
repair
station
one
or
to
Repair
Station
three?
Could
they
not
be
spent,
and
that
gives
us
more
time
to
think
about
it?.
AL
Yes,
it
could
be
it's
all.
Essentially
in
one
pot,
you
know
all
the
projects
are
combined
in
that
sense
and
so
and
again
I'm
just
just
quickly
kind
of
running
through
the
rebate
exceptions.
Here
you
have
to
spend
10
within
six
months,
45
within
one
year,
75
with
an
18-month
and
100
of
the
proceeds
within
two
years.
AL
So
your
question
is
yes.
If,
if
you
were
to
get
started
today
on,
let's
say
the
fire
station
three
rebuild
or
fire
station,
one
remodel
I
mean
that
would
count
toward
those
those
spin
down
thresholds.
AK
AK
I.
Also
just
a
note
again.
So
the
the
current
purchase
agreement
with
CFC
and
I
know
we've
been
over
this,
but
the
current
purchase
agreement
with
CFC
also
says
that
we
had
secure
funding
by
the
end
of
the
month.
If
we
don't
we'd,
either
have
to
renegotiate
that
deal
or
the
deal
goes
away
itself
so
just
to
make
that.
M
Can
I
add
one
more
thing?
Please.
M
Deputy
Mayor
I
just
had
a
conversation
with
mayor
Hamilton
and
he's
willing
to
commit
to
using
no
greed
funds
on
this
project.
G
I
wanted
to
confirm
my
understanding,
the
bonding
capacity
we
we
settled
on
for
so
so.
First
as
a
for
context,
these
are
not
PS
lit
dollars.
They're
Economic
Development
lit
dollars
that
can
be
spent
on
many
things.
Public
Safety
purposes,
included
in
my
recollection,
is
that
the
the
bonding
capacity
for
for
this,
these
Bond
proceeds
came
from
the
annual
amount
that
the
council
agreed
to
spend
on
Public
Safety
purposes
when
we
passed
the
Ed
let
raise
earlier
this
year
as
early
or
last
year.
G
Is
that
right
we
took
that
amount
and
said
what
capacity
does
that
give
us
I'm
seeing
head
nuns?
Yes,
that's
good
enough.
Thank
you
for
confirming,
throughout
this
conversation,
I
mean
we've
kind
of
referred
to
those,
as
you
know,
earmarked
Public
Safety
dollars.
You
know
which
they
very
much
are
but
I
think,
as
all
of
us
knew
when
we
were
passing
that
Economic
Development,
let
change
the
the
exhibit
is
not
binding
it.
G
It
reflected
the
consensus
agreement
we
achieved
at
that
time
among
nine
council
members
in
the
mayor
of
what
this
money
should
go
to.
You
know
for
the
near
future,
certainly
not
in
perpetuity
there.
There
are
instances
where
we
might
wrap
up
those
funds
and
commit
them
like
we
did
earlier
tonight
with
an
interlocal
agreement
with
respect
to
Bloomington
Transit,
but
doubtless
some
of
that
will
evolve.
None
of
us
can
bound
bind
the
next
mayor,
the
next
Council,
to
follow
those
those
guidelines.
G
I
think
that
you
know
all
of
us
would
be
well
served
to
sort
of
treat
them
with
respect,
but
they
they
are
going
to
evolve.
They
are
going
to
change,
and
I
mentioned
that
just
to
say
that
this
idea,
what
we
settled
on
the
bond
capacity
in
this
instance
based
on
that
number
of
what
we
agreed
Public
Safety
dollar
dollars,
would
be
out
of
that
increment.
G
It
doesn't
have
to
be
that
that's
the
exact
amount
coming
from
that
Ed
let
in
perpetuity
you
could
actually
find
you
know
ways
to
increase
that,
based
on
shifting
around
the
other
priorities
that
we're
agreed
upon
at
that
time.
Obviously
I
would
have
to
work
through
all
the
appropriate
channels
to
do
so.
But
again,
you
know
how
how
that
agreement
under
evolves
over
time
is
is
very
much
an
open
question
and
I
say
that
I
guess
to
ask
if,
if
that
confirms,
does
that
reflect
the
administration's
understanding
as
well?
G
G
You
know
for
as
long
as
it
exists
like
future
administrations,
future
elected
officials
would
necessarily
have
conversations
about
and
potentially
change
what
the
different
portions
of
that
quarter
of
a
percent
tax
increment
we're
going
to.
Does
that?
Does
that
make
sense.
AB
Hi
Beth
K
Corporation
Council.
So
if
I
understand
your
question
correctly,
council
member
Flaherty,
you're
saying
look,
the
the
lit
rate
is
in
place.
The
revenue
is
going
to
come
in
there
after,
unless
and
until
the
council
changes
that
the
tax
Council
changes
that
but
the
buckets
the
various
items,
including
the
transit
projects
that
we
talked
about
earlier
and
so
on.
Those
are
things
that
were
prioritized
by
this
Council,
but
you
might
change
or
shift
your
minds
as
the
revenue
comes
in
in
future.
I
think
you
know
from
the
administration's
standpoint.
AB
We
want
to
be
very
respectful
of
the
choices
that
Council
made.
We
know
that
was
a
big
collaboration
among
you
all.
At
the
same
time,
I
mean
it's:
it's
you
all
who
are
collaborating
over
what
to
prioritize
for
the
spending
in
future,
so
I
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
call
exactly
what
that
stuff
is
going
to
be
spent
on
in
future.
If
you
choose
it,
was
you
all,
while
driving
the
bus
on
that
earlier
in
terms
of
how
to
divvy
up
the
funds
based
on
some
recommendations?
AB
G
F
F
AB
In
the
app
word
materials
you
see
the
layout
of
how
the
funds
are
going
to
break
down
for
the
renovation
and
the
renovation
is
part
of
the
revenue
that
is
appropriated
through
the
app
board.
So
if
you
take
a
look
at
that,
that's
what
I
think.
O
F
M
A
G
G
The
first
is
with
respect
to
Mayor
Hamilton's
intent,
not
to
expand
the
Third
Street
headquarters.
You
know
if,
if
showers
were
not
acquired,
he
doesn't
think
that's
a
good
investment.
The
mayor
is
is
tasked
with
bringing
Appropriations
under
Indiana
Law.
That's
our
system,
the
idea
that
he
isn't
willing
to
bring
an
appropriation
for
an
investment
that
he
thinks
is
an
irresponsible
use
of
taxpayer
dollars.
Regardless
of
what
any
council
member
thinks
is
not
a
threat,
it
is
not
coercion,
it
is
not
playing
the
council,
it
is
not
Stockholm,
Syndrome
and
I.
G
Think
all
of
that
language
is
reflective
of
sort
of
hyperpolarization
of
this
discussion
and
politicization
frankly
with
inflammatory
language
that
significantly
mischaracterizes
the
facts
as
well
as
what
people
are
saying.
Here's
another
example.
G
G
We
have
different
understandings,
some
of
us
about
the
current
public
safety
system
and
whether
or
not
there
is
Need
For,
Change
or
Improvement.
That's
okay,
we're
differently
oriented
on
this
policy
issue
and
on
a
good,
many
others,
but
I
I
resent
some
of
the
language
that's
being
put
into
people's
mouths
and
characterizing.
What
is
a
otherwise
civil
debate?
G
Final
point
with
respect
to
who's
affected
and
making
sure
we're
thinking
about
who's
affected
Central.
In
my
mind,
throughout
all
of
this
is
in
fact
the
Bloomington
residence.
Yes,
there
are
a
lot
of
stakeholders,
fop
police
chief,
you
know
the
fire
department
and
what
the
fire
chief
thinks
civil
services
at
the
city,
there's
a
lot
of
stakeholders,
the
council,
but
it's
the
Bloomington
residents
actually
in
their
service,
that
that
is
foremost
in
my
mind.
Thank
you.
A
I
So
it.
P
I
AB
Corporation
Council
Beth
cage,
so
council
member
Smith,
just
to
make
sure
I'm
tracking
you're
asking
what
the
revenue
from
the
bond
sales
would
be
going
for.
Is
that
right.
AB
A
B
Okay,
council,
member
volen.
H
F
B
J
S
F
F
That
ordinance
2302
be
introduced
and
read
by
the
clerk
by
title
and
synopsis.
Only.
L
G
F
I
B
I
B
Ordinance
2302
to
amend
Title
II
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code,
entitled
Administration
and
Personnel
regarding
transfer
from
chapter
2.21,
Department
of
Law
to
chapter
2.23,
community
and
family
resources
department.
The
synopsis
is
as
follows:
this
ordinance
amends
Title,
II,
Administration
and
Personnel
of
the
Bloomington
municipal
code
and
comes
forth
at
the
request
of
the
city
legal
department
and
of
the
community
and
family
resources
department.
B
A
N
Yes,
if
they're
members
of
the
public
that
didn't
speak
during
our
first
opportunity
for
public
comment,
please
use
the
raise
hand
feature
to.
Let
us
know
you'd
like
to
speak
now.
You
can
find
that
in
your
control
bar
under
the
reactions,
tab
or
the
more
tab,
you
can
also
send
a
chat
to
the
meeting
host
to.
Let
us
know
you'd
like
to
speak.
K
N
Just
a
note
that
the
council,
sidewalk
committee
I,
believe,
has
landed
on
a
date
of
next
Thursday
February,
the
2nd
for
that
committee's
first,
and
possibly
only
meeting
if
I'm
being
optimistic,
we'll
find
out,
but
that
meeting
will
be
at
2
30
upstairs
in
the
hooker
conference
room
and
you,
you
noted
the
council's
regular
session
next
week
on
the
first.
So
with
those
two
notes,
I
don't
have
any
other
business
for
you.