City of Bloomington, Indiana City Council, 5 Aug 2020

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Okay, uh seeing we have a quorum, I will call.

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To order this meeting of the committee of the whole, the bloomington common council is wednesday august 5th.

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2020. tonight is our second meeting of the committee of the whole.

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Considering appropriations ordinance 2003.

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Resolution 2012., uh specifically appropriation, ordinance 2003.

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Appropriates money from the general fund, the parks general fund and the jackpot.

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Jack hopkins fund expenditures that were not otherwise appropriated.

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uh Resolution 2012 is to review and approve the intra.

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Category transfer and expenditure of funds greater than a hundred thousand.

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Dollars and that's for funds within the um housing trust fund uh within.

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Categories there, um so these proposed items for.

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Legislation are part of a proposal that uh mayor.

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Hamilton is is calling uh recover forward related to recovering.

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From the copen 19 pandemic, um economically and equitably uh on july,.

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22Nd, uh this committee heard an overview of that proposal and was able to ask some initial questions.

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And since then, we have submitted and received answers to additional questions. These questions and answers are included in.

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The council packet for tonight's meeting and additionally, it looks like the.

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Administration has provided a more detailed written outline of the.

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Various programs, within this proposal available in the packet addendum for.

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Tonight's meeting uh so we'll start tonight with with.

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Presentations from staff and I think to kick that off mayor hamilton is going.

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To give us a brief, update uh related to copenhagen as well and.

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Then we can move to additional uh presentations from.

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Department, heads and relevant city staff, so whenever you're ready mayor hamilton.

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Go ahead thanks! So much can you hear me all right.

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um Very briefly, I just wanted to give a quick update on covid.

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uh What we have been doing you all know, of course the city took.

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Steps uh to accelerate the county order, which went fully into force on july 31st.

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And two weeks before that, with a mask order covering our whole county, I won't.

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Go into the details of that we accelerated the rules for the city.

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They're now in place over the whole county for bar and restaurant.

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Restrictions as well as social gathering limitations in terms of numbers and.

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Requirements of masking and distancing for those two.

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Some of you've probably followed really extraordinary.

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Investments and activities and plans from indiana university for their.

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Next, several weeks as they begin their restart as they would call it.

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And can certainly go into that if you want but they've invested.

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Enormous amounts of energy money and resources into that and as well, our.

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County health department has been working, 24 7, to try to assure we're taking the steps.

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That we can to protect ourselves the board of health.

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The board of health is planning to give guidance. I'm hearing a.

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Noise is that just me anyway, all right, the board of health is.

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Planning to give guidance very soon, if not released,.

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Already today, I'm not sure when it's out on congregate living facilities, particularly.

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Greek houses, meaning on recommendations on a lot of protocols.

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That they should be following. So look for that the last three weeks we have.

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Had uh higher hospitalizations in indiana.

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University health hospital bloomington hospital higher, but.

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They have now been steady for three weeks while they were having to transfer patients the last five days they have.

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Not had to transfer any patients primarily due to faster testing.

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Results I'll just close by noting uh we are.

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Going to have to continue to monitor very closely, we actually discussed how.

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To ramp up the the periodicity, the the pace of the.

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Monitoring, that's getting shared among several of us to make sure we're.

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Watching uh we have challenging weeks ahead, there.

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Could be additional steps, additional restrictions that may be.

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Needed either county-wide or in the city, but right now that we're continuing to.

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Meet and monitor and do all we can to to allow proceeding.

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Health with health and and and the schools and others that are.

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Opening up now, I'm going to pass it over to alex for a very brief update from the economic stabilization and recovery.

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Effort- and I think they may include a very brief update to you- also on.

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Some of the latest activities and parking related to.

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Trying to improve the business climate for those trying to climb out of this so.

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Mr crowley, over to you, thank you, mary hamilton.

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I'm alex crowley, I'm director of economic, sustainable development for the.

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City, can everybody hear me okay, great, um so I'm here primarily to.

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Introduce kaiser goodman uh but provide a little context. The context is, as mayor hamilton.

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Mentioned the the broader effort of economic.

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Stabilization recovery, uh thank you to council for.

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Helping us facilitate opening up or closing, I should say, kirkwood.

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During key periods to create some extra space for restaurants,.

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And also for signage relaxation, what this does is build on that and.

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Actually tries to using uh council member flaherty's.

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Idea and a number of other council members, as well as.

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What other cities are doing to to look around town and try to figure.

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Out are there opportunities for outdoor seating that may not.

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Allow for street closure, and so these are called parklets kaisa goodman.

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Who is new to the department, we'll take you through that, um and we are pleased uh to be able to um let you know that that the test is is.

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Starting it's underway and that uh she'll take.

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You through the details so I'll pass it over to kaiser right now,.

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Hello, council members. Thank you so much for your time this evening.

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Like alex said, I'm kaiser goodman, I'm the special projects manager for the.

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Department of economic and sustainable development, and I'm talking about parklets this evening, parklets are defined here as.

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Parking spaces adjacent to a restaurant which are converted into temporary.

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Outdoor dining for that, for that restaurant, um this.

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Proposal is one of a number such as the pickup drop-off zone,.

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Implementation, which we discussed last week, which will help restaurants to generate economic activity, in spite of.

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Potential spikes in coving cases and in order to meet the needs of customers and.

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Restaurants and comply with health guidelines. We must continue.

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To be creative, with ways to expand outdoor dining.

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Options or downtown restaurants adapting parking spaces into parklets is.

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Not an original idea, but again one that has been implemented.

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In many other cities as a way to expand outdoor dining.

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And like alex mentioned, while the intermittent closing of kirkwood from.

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Indiana to grant is helpful. Closing the street is not an option in.

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Many other parts of the downtown area and this plan would allow other downtown.

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Restaurants, to expand their outdoor seating without closing any lanes of traffic in a way, that's both temporary and easily.

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Adjustable this parkland implementation was.

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Approved with a temporary order by the board of public works at their august 4th meeting yesterday and approves parklets through september.

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30Th as a pilot program, as with the pickup drop-off zones, this.

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Was designed to run concurrently with the intermittent closing of kirkwood.

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Which the council previously approved, so this plan basically has two stages of.

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Implementation, um the first parklets were installed.

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Today, on the west side of north college, between fifth and sixth, so the west side.

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Of the courthouse square and the parkways are in the two north.

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Most parking spaces on that block um just for reference, that's outside of.

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Like the social cantina and smoke works and then the four south most parking.

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Spaces on that block outside of the tap the inkwell and the orbit room, I.

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Also want to note that the five spaces between those two.

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Parklets, one of which is the ada spot for the block.

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Will remain as regular metered parking spaces.

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um And those are outside of the retail establishments on the block.

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The second part of this implementation is that other downtown restaurants will.

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Be able to submit a free application to have parklets considered outside of.

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Their restaurant, these applications will be considered on a case-by-case basis.

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By the city, taking into account the availability of parking in the area.

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Parking needs versus outdoor dining needs.

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Safety for patrons seated in the parklets and feasibility of.

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Implementation and these additional parklets will be.

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Installed bi-weekly for the feasibility of the department of public works and the fire department. I also want to note that.

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There is no cost to businesses for the parklets and a few final.

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Considerations for this plan, the city's.

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Responsibilities are to do an initial street sweeping in the area.

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And then to install the orange water filled, barriers.

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And from there it's the restaurant's responsibility to set up the patio.

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Furniture, complete ongoing cleaning um confirm or.

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Acquire all necessary permits and licenses and coordinate with each other if there are multiple restaurants.

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Using the same parklet space, additionally, any block in which parklets.

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Take up more than one third of its total parking spaces will have any pickup drop-off zones in that block, removed.

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Such as the block of north college, um where the.

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Apocalypse take up six of the 11 parking spaces that will not have the pickup.

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Drop-Off zones any longer um are there any questions.

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About this so appreciate that update um ms goodman.

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And mr carly, as well as mayor hamilton, um these.

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Aren't directly related to the legislation we are considering as committee the whole tonight, though, they are um related to covet recovery and some of the programs we're hearing. So I think.

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We're going to actually forego questions on this particular program tonight in.

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The interest of moving on to the topic for community poll, but uh I would direct council members to email.

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Esd staff, with any questions they have and perhaps.

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If there are relevant questions that you would like to update us on at next week's regular session, that would be um a good time for it, but very much.

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Appreciate those updates from esd staff, as well as mayor, hamilton and.

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At this point, I would like to move on to additional.

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uh City staff presentation on the appropriation ordinance 2003.

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Resolution 2012 and related programs specifically, if there are department.

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Heads or other city staff who uh have any remarks prepared.

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uh In the context of a presentation for those programs, is there anyone who.

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uh Planned to present tonight we'll start with mayor hamilton again.

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Go ahead! Yes, thanks very much, and thanks for letting us.

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Share those other matters um I'm going to be presenting to you originally.

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Tonight to start expanding on what we did last.

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Time and the questions that you provided and answers, we provided as well as the narrative that.

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Chairman flaherty mentioned, um then I will certainly have many colleagues who.

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Are available to go through questions, but I'm going to try to give an out.

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An overview tonight to begin so the main goals of recover forward are.

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First to recover, our community is reeling.

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And it's also to move forward to steer toward.

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The kind of community we want to be as we recover toward a community that is.

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More racially, just that is more economically just, and that is more.

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Focused on climate justice, doing that within.

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Our fiscal capabilities in these challenging days and, in particular.

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The appropriation ordinance we're discussing tonight is actually just.

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Redirecting two million dollars of reversions.

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That we realized uh in 2019, which often would have been uh requested.

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For appropriations in 2020, but we have held on to them. So what we're asking for.

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Is a appropriation of 2019 reversions, the goal being to reduce pain, to reduce.

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The community's pain and households pain and to accelerate jobs and recovery, while moving us.

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Toward these big goals of economic, racial.

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And climate justice priorities that have motivated our.

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uh Alignment of these resources and programs are first.

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To move quickly, this program in particular, is focused on trying to.

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Accomplish things in the midst of a reeling community in.

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The remainder of the of this year, so we want to do things.

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That we can do quickly. Second, we want to leverage existing.

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Programs, as we can that's not unrelated to moving quickly.

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But also to achieve partnerships to help accelerate and.

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Leverage what we invest and third to help realize our values.

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Those values that are driving our community to move our recovery toward.

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That this evening, I'm outlining the request.

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For a four-month program september, through december of this year,.

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To begin that process I'll thank our staff, many of whom are here.

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Tonight but all of them have given extraordinary efforts since march and.

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The beginning of the pandemic and who are tirelessly now also.

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Orienting toward the recovery that is so important, we've.

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Been aligning with community leaders, I want to thank them and their programs to help move forward and again approaching this.

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As something that we're doing in the middle of a crisis.

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While we're aiming for those three directions of racial, economic and.

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Climate justice moving quickly limiting damage, accelerating our.

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Recovery tonight we're talking about four-month.

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Programs- these are short-term things that we can do quickly and and to.

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Aim toward results quickly, but I also want to note they.

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Line up as well with our longer term priorities and our longer term.

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Directions that is, these are yes, they're meant to be quick, uh hits.

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And quick efforts this year, but they move us.

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Toward the directions that we want to go, so I think, if I can ask that the.

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Spreadsheet be put up on the screen that can share with folks.

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That would be great. Thank you for that, and I know you all have this.

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uh In front of you, through your packets as well, but for.

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And you're watching if this is easier, so this is about a 2.3 million dollar.

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Request uh because they're offsets that take that down.

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Just under two million dollars for uh reversion funds.

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You'll see we've, we've we've lined it in we've, grouped it in three.

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Buckets or three categories um there's so it's a little, don't mean it.

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To be confusing, but each of the each of the focused.

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Directions of racial justice and economic justice and climate justice.

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Interact and intermingle so much that it's not like, we can have a category for.

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Each one of those this is trying to group these programs, many of which move us forward in all three of those areas to group.

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These programs into uh kind of recognizable program.

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Buckets and I'm going to go through the more than 12.

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Program components: now: it's a mix of approaches.

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You you know that there are, there are different.

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Facets of this, we are balancing needs and opportunities. I'm.

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There's no doubt it's not a perfect um combination from any single person's.

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View, but I hope you'll agree that this is an effective and an important um set of.

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uh Of objectives, so you can see the on the far left side. It's pretty hard to.

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See but each of these programs that we'll be going through uh briefly has the initials indicating climate.

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Impact racial impact and economic impact so.

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I'm just going to run through these uh pretty quickly. We didn't get a chance.

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To do that last time and there are a number of them, so I'm gonna go quickly and then just open it up to questions.

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So, assuming that's all right, I'm checking if that's okay,.

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But yes, that's! Okay! Please proceed forward! Thank you. So the first and.

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Largest bucket of the three is really focused on sustainability uh and quality of life, uh particularly.

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Many environmental and climate actions, but also wider, quieter quality of life.

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That's a 1.3 million dollar component out of the 2.3 uh gross amount.

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And the first category of that is working to lower the energy use and the.

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Cost burden for our built environment now this is very important uh because we know our.

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Our carbon impact is driven a big part of it is driven by our built environment.

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We also know these are high costs of many of our.

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Households uh and smaller businesses as well in the community, so this is a set of energy efficiency.

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Loans and grants meant to reduce the energy burden.

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And operational costs for homeowners, renters and small businesses.

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Particularly targeting income, restricted homes or small.

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Businesses as well as multi-family units located uh in areas below 100 percent,.

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Area median income, participants below 100 area, media income.

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uh Energy assessments assessments will be the first step in these.

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And they will lead then to work to include a number of things like aerators.

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Led bulbs, smart thermostats, different appliances, weatherization improvements.

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Including solar and other things identified.

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Important to our carbon footprint important to sustainability,.

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uh And and frankly, racial justice and economic justice as well.

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A second big category under sustainability is improving mobility.

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Options, this is really focused on non-car, non-auto mobility options and trying to invest in those.

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Like the first one, I just described also helping create jobs.

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For the people who will be implementing these programs.

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The first part of the mobility options is is focused on sidewalk.

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And path enhancements of four hundred thousand dollars.

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This money will focus on ada, curb ramp improvements.

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Pavement improvements to bike lanes and bike paths and also fixing sidewalk.

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Damage caused by street trees again focused with our investments in.

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Low and moderate income areas of the community built on our.

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Overall condition index that the public works department uses to identify the.

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Greatest needs one. Another focus of this group will of.

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This program will be to break up contracts into smaller pieces so that we.

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Can reach out to local small businesses and providers who.

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Might otherwise not have access to these projects to do.

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A scale that may get some more people into the into the public contracting.

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Realm, and that too has a uh equitable uh impact racially.

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Economically, as well as improving our overall.

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Mobility and job impact, a second piece of mobility, is working to improve.

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The transit system and, in particular, a set of bus, stops that we know.

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Are in need of improvement, looking for again.

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Quick impact on construction sides bloomington.

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Transit and public works have both had identified and I think.

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We can share a map with you later, if you'd like to see them 25.

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Bus stops that are a combination of needing substantial physical.

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Improvements to enhance accessibility to the users.

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As well as in high use bus corridors and those 25 bus stops again, we can get.

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To work on them quickly, creating jobs and improving.

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The mobility for our community, besides automobiles and helping the bloomington.

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Transit another category for this in.

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Sustainability is improving local food. We've learned in covid.

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How fragile our food systems can be, how important it is to have local food.

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Robust local food and not just depend upon the.

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Industrial food complex: we also know that our local farms have difficulty.

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Accessing the marketplace and having real ability to reach many markets.

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In our local community uh there's been a lot of work, I won't try to go through.

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That working with local food partners well before the pandemic, hit looking at options with the growers.

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Guild including blooming foods and the farmers markets themselves and others trying to identify how to.

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Strengthen the local food, what has been outlined.

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As a as a consensus, next step is a consignment based local only.

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Grocery store called the farm, stop it's built on a model that has been.

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Successful in ann arbor michigan and it's meant to be a separate.

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Non-Profit this funding would get that group started to create.

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That consignment based local food store that can be.

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Collaborative again, with the components I mentioned not competitive with, but collaborative with, all of those.

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To help our local food economy strengthen now, this is a two-part.

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Investment, a down payment of about 75 000 now and.

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Then another 150 or so probably needed next year to put that.

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Into place a final category in this.

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Sustainability uh and equitable living category is.

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We call other because it includes a number of uh different.

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Matters first, jack hopkins: we know how hard the nonprofit community.

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Has been hit social service safety net, how hard they.

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Have been hit this year and are still suffering you've all read the articles.

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We believe we have a very good system in place to help support that incredibly important safety net.

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Through the jack hopkins network and process and propose to put another two.

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Hundred thousand dollars directly into that jack hopkins pipeline.

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So that it can be pushed out the door before the end of the year to needy.

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Organizations who are working so hard for our community and similarly we know the arts community has.

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Been devastated in the covid pandemic and related.

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Shutdowns and closures, um some of our wonderful institutions.

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Are really teetering and struggling? We've accelerated art support already this year, but we know there are greater needs. This funding of a hundred thousand dollars.

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Has actually been earmarked by the bloomington urban enterprise association.

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So it does not require general fund commitments, but we.

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Think it's very important to try to move that out as well before the end of the year. They too have a process to follow. That is.

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Reliable for that, lastly, in this other category, I'll just.

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Mention digital equity: this is not a large dollar amount of 35 000.

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You may have noticed we put out a digital equity survey.

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Report today that had been conducted back in april.

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We we know how important digital access is. We knew in 2019 and we sure, as heck.

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Know how important it is in 2020, and this survey has helped us- identify some gaps in our community that we think we knew.

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About but it's helped put put numbers around them and more.

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Details and demographics, and this this modest grant program is a.

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Way to reach out to partners in the community to help them.

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Address some of the digital gaps we're going to ask them what they think they.

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Can do about it? Some of the partners are listed in the.

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In the document I won't share that, but including things to help people access existing programs that aren't being accessed enough.

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Subsidy programs, or to build a help, repair skill gaps that are out there for.

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Families and households- so that's the first category of 1.3.

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Million dollars for for sustainability, a second category.

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And we had a an episode about this today for an hour.

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Talked about this is good jobs and really trying to accelerate the economic recovery. We know thousands are out of work. We.

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Know getting our economy back on its feet is so important and we're looking at ways that the city.

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Can accelerate and support particularly good paying jobs and helping people who.

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Otherwise might not get into the marketplace. Do so.

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This has benefited a great deal, even in the last two weeks or so from.

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Discussions with partners in the community who've looked at some of our plans and we've we've been tweaking and continue to look at that.

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But you'll see the first section out of this 525 000 is 375.

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000 focused on new job incentives and helping people access.

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Get new jobs which we know are so important to recovery. This has been.

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Again, very helpfully evolved with partners.

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The building trades uh we're we're identifying a hundred thousand dollars.

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To help one of the sectors that is thriving.

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Right now in our community and that's the building trades. But there are a lot of people who who don't have access to those jobs or.

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Good access, in particular, people who, who may not have the skills.

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To enter that marketplace, but could build them, and this program is designed.

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To help those who might be eligible for those jobs to become kind of apprentices,.

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That would be uh trained on the job to get the higher.

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Skill one example described was concrete finishers who a company may not want to hire.

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Somebody who has doesn't have those skills yet, but if we can help say we can cover the first four weeks of their of their training.

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As you train them on the job, we've heard from a lot of partners.

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That this could be very helpful. uh You can see, we've got partners with.

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Contractors and ivy tech and others focused on uh unemployed people, people.

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Learning below 100 of ami or or others with challenges in.

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Getting back into the workplace from various reasons.

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A second part of this is 150 000 that is really specifically earmarked to help.

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People who have barriers getting back into the workplace, many.

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Who have been out of the workplace for for significant periods of time.

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Often, because of mental illness substance use disorder.

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Or incarceration and this program is really designed.

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To help people get a first job, build the history.

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And get back into the workplace this this money.

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Will actually support a city-based program with partners in the workplace.

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Others, besides the city to help, get a first job uh doing some.

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Basic uh infrastructure work, including things like brighton b-town,.

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Doing infrastructure work we're able to triple that from five.

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People to 15 people- and I will tell you each of these.

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Stories of individuals who find success uh is is stirring and.

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Heartwarming- and this is an investment to help create that path for.

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People who otherwise might not be able to participate in a recovery, fifty thousand dollars identified on a.

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Very specific partnership that parks and rec has, with center stone.

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This has been a terrific program for three years already helping center stone.

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Clients work with the parks department in jobs.

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That move them into the regular marketplace, one of whom.

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Has been hired by the parks department full time, this is an investment to increase that by nine more people.

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uh For the for the next few months and again, these can be transformative for.

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These individuals- and it happens fast, they're existing programs that are ready.

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To expand, there's an additional 75 thousand.

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Dollars to round out this program, that is really.

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Designed to help uh perhaps up to five thousand dollars a job.

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To support individuals in these ways who get the chance to work.

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In other net, new job places uh one other component. Besides that.

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First 375 is also a coding school. I'm going to try.

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To keep moving through this, the mill which you are all familiar with, I know.

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And as a hub of our tech center has been working for many many months identifying ways to help more.

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Bloomingtonians get access to tech, jobs and, in particular, the million coding.

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Jobs that are unfilled in the country, both for them and also to.

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Help our local tech companies get more coding. This is a terrific.

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Program based on one in louisville, the mill is ready to run with this. For a.

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Hundred thousand dollars uh they can create a group uh cohort of.

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Students up to 40 students, students, pay 200 each they get trained.

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Over a number of months to become the ability to be placed in coding, jobs.

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They've got a pipeline of jobs lined up for that, and.

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Finally, in the jobs area, a life sciences focus again. This is an.

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Existing program, as we've listened to our partners, who say.

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If you can bump a little to help accelerate job placement, this is a great.

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Area working with ivy tech and local manufacturers again in an area that is, is hiring people. This biomanufacturing technician apprenticeship program is a.

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Three-Week course that gets people ready for the biotechnology world in terms of.

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Training as well as some soft skills, it's a proven uh model every participant this summer in the program got multiple job offers.

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And this would help expand that and again help reach out to.

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People 25 to 50 people who otherwise might not.

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Have access to this kind of program and the third.

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Bucket and thank you for your patience wrapping up here, the third bucket is.

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Looking at affordability of of housing, as you all know, we've worked.

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Very hard and have nearly a thousand affordable rental.

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Units that we've created or preserved over the last several years.

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Most of them turning them into long-term, affordable rental units.

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And that's a that's a an effort. We will absolutely continue.

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We have not been able to do much on home ownership.

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And home ownership is an important part of a recovery.

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For a household for our community to assure that we can try to avoid the.

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Worst parts of gentrification and chip away at that that we can create new.

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Opportunities for households to own a home that they.

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Otherwise cannot which can change the trajectory of a whole family.

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Across multiple generations- and there are two programs that we think can.

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Move quickly, the first of a hundred thousand dollars.

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Is simply building on an existing housing and neighborhood.

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Development program that is available through federal funding to people below.

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80 percent of area median income to with the ten thousand dollar down.

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Payment assistance to help people get into the housing market.

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That program has helped it's been at a very modest scale,.

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uh And we know that people who go through the homeowners.

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Counseling class often have more than 80 percent of ami.

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But they can't buy a home for for other barriers, so this program would allow.

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Up to 10 buyers to 100 000 appropriation, who are between 80 and 120 percent area,.

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Median income to become homeowners in the city and build that household.

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Momentum that is so important and to help us fight what can happen, which is people getting.

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Priced and placed out of the city as we evolve.

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Over time and the second and last program I'll, I itemize.

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Tonight is a new program, shared appreciation, home ownership, and this is.

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A model that has been done in many places around the country. This is focused on more assistance up to fifty thousand dollars per household.

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Family first time, home buyer, at least twenty percent of the purchase price.

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Maximum purchase price of two hundred fifty thousand, and this is meant to help more of those families who who need a little more help.

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To get into home ownership than just a 10 000 down payment, this kind of help can reduce the need for private mortgage.

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Insurance, it can significantly reduce the cost of a.

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Of a mortgage with this second mortgage at a very low or no fee.

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And it also is a way so it so. It helps non-traditional homeowners, first-time.

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Buyers get into the market with a shared appreciation structure.

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Kind of like a land trust where there's a formula for resale it's a way for a starter home for families, but it's a way.

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For us, as a community, to build up an inventory over time.

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Of permanently affordable homes- and I know 10 homes doesn't seem like a lot.

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But if we were chipping away at creating uh new affordability and preserving the.

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Equitable opportunities in our community that are.

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So important and have been missing frankly in our ability uh to do this kind of investment.

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I should note that uh about 250 000 of the 450 000 total.

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In home, ownership uh support is coming from the housing development fund.

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So the general fund appropriation is about 200 000.

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For this total effort- and I think I'm going to stop at that- I have.

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Colleagues, who are ready to jump in with any more details you.

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Want I appreciate your patience I'll just close by saying.

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Recover forward is important for our community. I believe.

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We have a community that is reeling. We have identified funds that can help.

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Address in a range of ways these uh these efforts, these needs.

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Some of these may not work. I can't tell you every one of these is going to work.

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I can tell you they're all well thought out and that they're, in my view, worth investing in to try to help our.

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Community recover and aim toward racial justice, economic.

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Justice and climate justice, as we do so so, thanks for your hearing and consideration of this and I'll open it.

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Up for questions and hand off to a lot of experts who are with me tonight, thank you, mayor hamilton, for that.

B

Presentation and with that we will go to council member questions.

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uh Does anyone have a question they would like to ask.

B

Council member sims.

E

Thank you um one question I have having to do with.

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Farm stop with the local food store um and the plan is for.

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uh This to be an in run by an entity, that's not the city.

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But yet the city's role would be to support the concept and, more importantly,.

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To help fund it, um I guess my question is um when we.

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Look at some of the issues we have at the current farmers market would, would the farm store be.

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Independent enough to to maybe eliminate or stop some of those.

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Issues if, in fact, the city is involved with.

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Funding does that not make it kind of the same.

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Thing as our city's farmer's market or or explain that to me, please sure and.

C

I'll I'll do a little bit and if mr crowley or his colleagues want to jump in that's fine too.

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um This would be a support for a separate nonprofit organization.

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Collaboration cooperative of farmers would not turn it into a governmental.

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Organization, we would be providing startup support, but we do that for.

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Lots of organizations through jack hopkins or other things like that.

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And so this nonprofit would run and establish.

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The rules for the market now we may want to require certain transparency.

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Certain accountability of that, but we don't think it would.

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Implicate, they would not become a governmental entity, subject to the same some of the same constitutional restrictions. We are, I think and alex I don't know if you want.

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To well- and I think you know the the.

D

Business plan as it's been developed and there's a pretty detailed business plan.

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Underlying this um also calls out the need for.

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uh A very focused effort on diversity and inclusion.

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um And so that will be baked into the business plan design and the actual.

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uh Facilities, so so not only are we not, um you know, would it not be restricted.

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This, in the same way as as mayor hamilton described but but.

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It would also be going further down that road to really make a.

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Significant effort to look at ways to uh create an.

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Inclusion. Thank you.

B

There are questions from council members, uh council members, scandalary.

F

Thank you. um I have a kind of specific detail, question and then a broader.

F

Question um you spoke about some of the infrastructure projects, um enhancements of bus stops and so.

F

Forth- um and there are a number of things I think.

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To like about that, um and I'm especially interested in its.

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Ability to create local jobs. um What I'm wondering, though, and I'm.

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Thinking back to my days on the redevelopment commission, are there any constraints from a bidding perspective? In other words, can we deter.

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Can we truly restrict ourselves to local providers.

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um Local contractors, if lower bids, perhaps come in from elsewhere, is does.

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The bidding process put any constraints on us.

C

So I'm going to I'm going to hand that to the pop-up adam weiss in there.

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Because you all want to hear from different people for me anyway, so go for it, adam um uh council, member scambaler. Thank you.

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For the question: yes, we want to work to provide contract.

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Amounts that are manageable for some of the smaller firms locally.

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Here, of course, everything would be subject: indiana code.

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In terms of public work laws and how those projects get executed through whether it's quotes or bids but we've.

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Been in discussion with several local contractors and local representatives.

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That are very much interested in just that some smaller contracts, where, instead of being 150, 000 plus contract.

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It'll be a you know: 25 000 contract making it.

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More manageable, and so we're certainly aware of all.

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Aspects of that.

F

Great thank you and a bit of a broader question. One.

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One of the things that has impressed me throughout this conversation.

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um Is the focus on reaching out to those who are unemployed or underemployed?.

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Historically and I'd just be interested to know, are there a particular.

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Partnerships that you envision, establishing or have established or are there agencies that you intend to pull into that.

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Conversation, so we can actually be sure we reach the populations. We want.

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To reduce that's a theme that runs through a lot.

C

Of the pieces of this, um I think alex crowley I'll hand that, to you to to talk.

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About I know it relates to adam wasting some of your work too, but but why don't you start alex and it's a really important question yeah I mean uh it's a great.

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Question and, and there are, as you know, a ton of agencies.

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Out there doing great work having with with great contact with constituents.

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That um might otherwise be harder to reach, and so you know I can name them. You know you could start the united way.

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I mean a ton of a ton of local agencies um and so.

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The the objective would be that we would be working through those agencies.

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To really reach out in the way that's most effective.

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uh By their determination to reach those people.

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That uh we're trying to reach ultimately so rather than us, trying to end run.

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Anybody which wouldn't make any sense and would be inefficient and ineffective.

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uh Really leveraging the partnerships that we have already in place.

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And looking for ways that we can communicate.

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The benefits of the programs and the programs themselves through the agencies.

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To their own constituents for maximum really speed and.

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And and efficiency in the process, I just remember.

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Specifically, center stone has been a very important and valuable ally.

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In helping create new opportunities for employment for.

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People who have had difficulty accessing that ivy tech is another very important.

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Ally in this, as they have their life sciences program that we're working with them on um we're actually.

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Talking to cook and some other private employers.

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Who, who are um very interested in helping them reach further and farther.

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And our well, admittedly, modest subsidies.

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Can be targeted in ways that help all of these partners.

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uh Get better results, and you know I hope if we find things that work, we can.

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Do more with them um we've cert! That's the example of center stone with parks. It's worked wonderfully and we're just trying to.

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Double down on it and increase the the volume of people who can participate.

C

In that that's helpful, thank you I'll! Stop. There.

F

B

Other council member questions at this time.

B

Council member smith, thank you, uh president flaherty chair, flaherty.

H

um I I wanted to ask a couple just kind of random questions and.

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The collaboration with center stone, uh that was that was talked about.

H

In some of this, will you tell me a little bit more about that.

C

I'm gonna, let paula tell you a little more about that. Paula mcdevitt runs.

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Parks department has been deep into it and I'm really proud of what they've done over the last several years good evening. Thank you. Thank you.

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For the question councilmember smith, um yes, we.

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Are in year, four of our partnership agreement with center stone and in the parks department, we have over 50 partnership agreements, so it is a written document.

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We bring our partners to the table and our combined resources.

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To uh provide either programs or services center stone has been.

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An incredible partner and that's why we are in year 4 and are looking.

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To the opportunity to expand this program.

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They hire these employees, um so we contract with centerstone, essentially.

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But they put their crews together and their crews come supported by.

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Supervisors- and these are also center stone, trained professionals, and that has really been the key to the success of.

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This program, as these crews are paired up with our operations.

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Maintenance, crews, our landscaping, crews and out at our.

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Golf course um our staff is there to meet them with the.

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The tools necessary and training and um out they go and they get the work.

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Done- and these are people who, when I am out.

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There they are grateful, they are hard workers and the work that I describe it's hot hard work and.

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Again, really good communication with centerstone and.

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We have the work and they certainly have the clients.

H

Well, thank you. That was great what a great partnership.

H

Thank you very much. Thank you and um I had uh one more question about the.

H

Coding school, the hundred thousand dollars, it's.

H

What what am I, what are we buying for a hundred thousand dollars.

H

Is it um the course it is? Is it that is it the fee.

H

For the individuals to go through it, is it.

H

Hardware, what can you give me a little bit of an.

H

Idea what that's for, let me let me frame that and then let.

C

Alex clean up what I mess up, which he certainly will.

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Is good at um I, we talked about this between one.

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And two o'clock today, you all know the mill and and the the energetic and really important.

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Leadership there to help grow the tech sector and.

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And pat east really came to us with this idea. This.

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This was we're responding to a call from from that.

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Organization that says we need coders. Our businesses locally need coders.

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And all around the country there are jobs not being filled.

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And we have people here who could do it? This coding school is built on a model.

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Out of louisville they've looked at a number in chicago north carolina, others.

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But this is built on a model that uh recruits individuals uh they put.

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Them through a little three-week, prep time to make sure they're they can.

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Stick to it that they, they they have kind of the the.

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Personality, if you will to do coding, which isn't for everybody.

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And then it puts them into a six to nine month.

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School online, primarily, but with local mentors.

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To get them to build those skills, our our money and.

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Alex can fix. Our money is basically a a start-up funding to help.

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Pay for licenses equipment some of the tuition. Their model is to.

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Build a self-sufficient model with the um increased income that the.

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Coders get and the placement records out of louisville are terrific increased income that they get. They ask the graduates.

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To pay it forward to give back some of that out of their.

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Next year's earnings uh to help support it, but alex.

C

You can supplement that or fix what I got wrong.

D

Yeah so I mean that's right, so the you know what what the program takes. Is it.

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Takes a strong organizational function, so you really.

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Need to bring someone on board to run the program so so about 50 000 of the 100 is for that is to have someone.

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In place at the mill to run the program, in addition to that,.

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One of the you know one of the challenges, sometimes with online.

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Learning is people to kind of drift off get demotivated. uh You know sort of hard if you've ever tried to do it. It's hard.

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To hang in there for a while without some support, so about 16, plus thousand of the hundred thousand, is related to ivy tech.

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uh Computer science, um folks, that would be.

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uh Handling an in-person on the ground component to create some.

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Sort of momentum and motivation continue people.

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In the program as they're enrolled, in addition to that about, ten thousand is.

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Is uh marketing support for the program really recruitment.

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For for the program, which is important, um students that.

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Don't have the necessary hardware, uh there'll be some purchases of about.

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Sixteen thousand dollars to uh cover about 20 computers. It's it's.

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A guess of what the need is, for the purposes of of people being able.

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To take the class if they don't have the equipment necessary. Those of course would be reusable, uh so they they would uh stay with the program um and in the end, about seventy.

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Five hundred dollars of of the hundred thousand is uh tied to.

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Student assessments and interview profiles, so so really it's.

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That kind of final phase of getting people- um I should say the the.

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Starting phase of getting people really figured out uh for uh matriculation into the program, um and then uh you know and staging them.

D

For success coming out, thank you very much, mr.

H

Crowley, mr hamilton.

H

That's all I have other council member questions.

B

uh Councilmember volin.

J

Thank you. um I asked in writing about the first and the last.

J

Line items in the proposal both which have to do with.

J

uh Housing, the first one was 250 000 for energy.

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Efficiency, the other was the 400 000.

J

For um homeownership to promote home ownership, uh second.

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Mortgages and down payment assistance and the answers.

J

uh That staff have given the written answers that they've given.

J

I've read them, but I don't think they address my fundamental question.

J

Which was significant enough that I actually.

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Prepared an amendment that I filed with the the uh our.

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Our administrator, but I haven't, introduced it yet.

J

But my concern is: um if this is an economic emergency, why are we helping.

J

People build wealth, I mean you know. How do I justify this.

J

Program to somebody who doesn't have an income, let alone owns a home that we're spending.

J

Some money that we could be spending on say center stone.

J

uh Or more jobs or or protecting the arts things that.

J

uh Would you know either serve the whole community.

J

Or um you know like at least get people back to work. uh How do we.

J

Justify um you know, I mean, I understand the.

J

Long-Term arguments that this promotes resiliency, but I don't see.

J

Why this particular bill, which is we're justifying? Because it's an.

J

Emergency because it's a economic emergency.

J

Is trying to promote that particular component.

J

Right now, please someone explain that to me.

C

Let me start, and then I see ms doris sims.

C

Ready here too, thank you, doris um look. Recover forward is responding to a.

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Community, that is reeling and trying to take quick steps.

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That move us in the right direction of recovery.

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Some of these may be immediate stanching. The flow of blood.

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Other them are really trying to help move our community.

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In the direction that we need to move, I I think.

C

These, these relatively modest investments in housing,.

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To help try to start our recovery with helping families.

C

Actually, the market, if the market's down a little bit, it's not a bad time at all.

C

To help families get a foothold into a housing affordability market to help them get in rather than during a hot market time.

C

But it's really amen, it's meant to say we believe in inclusion in.

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In our community- uh and these are most of the funds are coming from the.

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Housing development fund, but I do think it's important as a.

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Community, when we're talking about how to recover, to make.

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Clear we have one of the lowest homeownership.

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Rates in the state, we have lots of families who can't.

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Participate in our community as homeowners who want to- and I think.

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It's very appropriate as we're trying to move in the right direction as we.

C

Recover to make modest investments in these.

C

Programs which we think can get us moving in the right direction, and ms doris sims I'll. Let you weigh in as well, if you like,.

K

Thank you mayor. Yes, it's the mayor, sir. You know this is a social economic.

K

Recovery um package that he has presented and.

K

Building wealth through housing, homeownership is is important as well.

K

As the mayor stated, we currently work in the hand department.

K

Have a program where we provide down payment and closing cost assistance.

K

But it's limited and by income to the people who can participate.

K

And we have a lot of people who are looking to build wealth.

K

um As the response to you was given, it showed that.

K

62 of a person's wealth is through their home.

K

um And some of them may not have any other type of wealth other than.

K

A home, and we feel that this program will help.

K

Individuals who are out there who are looking to purchase a home.

K

But may not have um a down payment to get. That means to be able.

K

To purchase a home, and so these two programs will allow that.

J

Again, I under thank you for those answers. I understand.

J

uh Why I mean those arguments were not unfamiliar to me: I've read them.

J

I've heard them the specific thing I'm asking is.

J

uh You know building wealth again, we've got people who have lost their job.

J

People who don't own homes at all and that have no hope of.

J

Even qualifying for this program, these particular dollars.

J

Are um uh they're.

J

Most of them are coming from a housing fund. Those dollars are fine.

J

But we're talking about dollars from the general fund, okay,.

J

And there's a lot of other really worthy options.

J

uh A little a lot of really line items in this proposal.

J

And I don't understand why uh we didn't put.

J

All the dollars in this moment to those other items.

J

But when you know building wealth I mean everybody wants, but we've.

J

We've been pursuing the building, a building of wealth through home.

J

Ownership long before this, it's a constant problem.

J

The fact that uh uh there's so much rental.

J

Here and this town has always been an issue because we're a so-called college town, uh how is it any different now? Why aren't we using those.

J

Dollars for more emergent problems. Well, I don't know.

C

That I'll convince you, uh mr volun, but I'll just say uh you.

C

Know this is meant to be a balanced approach uh there, certainly anyone. I.

C

Suppose could pick any component of this and say I can think of something where somebody more needy.

C

Could require could could benefit from this from this money. This is meant to be.

C

A a range of approaches that help us recover into climate justice, economic justice, racial justice. I will say.

C

Homeownership is a racial justice issue. uh It's been one for a long time in our.

C

Community and in our country and investing in trying to make sure we.

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Create real opportunities for people who've been frozen out of home ownership.

C

Has real racial justice and economic justice.

C

Components to it it's one of the reasons we did want to push.

C

The housing development fund into this, but I think, on balance.

C

It's also probably worth pointing out that new homeowners spend money to.

C

Fix up homes and it's not a bad economic recovery strategy to encourage home.

C

Ownership and to make that available to people who.

C

Otherwise would be waving at it from from either outside our city or in a.

C

Rental place, so I I think it's the right thing to do.

C

But I respect that you may have a different allocation altogether with some of the resources.

C

We'll follow up today go ahead. Well, if I can add, you know, um council member.

K

Volunteer there may be people who were looking to be get into the home ownership market who may have down payment.

K

Available before the corona virus hit and had to use those resources.

K

To actually survive during the time period.

K

To when they were able to get employed again, and so this gives these people the.

K

Opportunity who were going for home ownership to still continue to be a homeowner by providing them with.

K

Down payment assistance through these programs.

J

Thank you um there's if I can continue. Mr flaherty.

J

uh Yes, please go ahead with the follow-up yeah. um The first is.

J

I would feel better about the second line item.

J

If there was more specifics about right now, all it says is.

J

uh For people up to 120 of area, median income.

J

And uh you know the answers to the written questions.

J

Said that it would probably be grants on the lower end.

J

And loans on the higher end, but there was no breakdown given.

J

I would feel better knowing how much money was being devoted.

J

To each, the second is, if that second item.

J

Is a racial justice, uh it affects racial justice as well.

J

Then is there going to be some measure of who is served.

J

By these loans, by these grants, you know are if everyone who receives.

J

Those dollars are white, uh just because you know five.

J

Or less than two I mean, are we going to have a.

J

Measurement of who gets what.

C

So I want to make sure I understand: are you talking about the home ownership.

C

With this or the energy efficiency investments now the two primarily the home ownership, but I think it might apply to the to the.

J

Latter, well, we certainly will track the home.

C

Ownership uh customers uh who use that as we do and.

C

We'll report on that and those are those are goals that are important to us.

C

Okay, thank you. I mean we sorry we can't have. I wish we can the.

C

Supreme court does not let us have quotas or, or things like that in programs that are funded with.

C

Fed with with public money, but we can certainly do our level best.

C

To reach uh customers, as we do through our housing, counseling.

C

Programs and others to try to help them get into home ownership.

D

If I may jump in on the energy efficiency, uh we actually.

D

uh Council member of olin have a pretty detailed.

D

Program, design, uh space and and communication materials limited.

D

You know the presenting the detail, um but you know one thing that this is an.

D

Example of um we, we think of.

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Of bloomington and monroe county rightfully.

D

As being very strong on things like renewable energy- and we.

D

We outperform counties in the state and- and we should.

D

Be very proud of that and that there's a lot of great work that goes into that.

D

One of the one of the things that struck us.

D

Is when you look at that, the actual physical placement.

D

Of where those arrays have gone, and you map.

D

It against different parts of town with economic. You know.

D

Overlays to it to see you know who's doing what.

D

It turns out that it skews almost entirely.

D

To neighborhoods that can afford to put a.

D

An array up- and so you know this is this- is an ability to.

D

You know to cut through and allow a you know a program to happen that does.

D

Not depend on self-capitalization and when you do that and and you and you.

D

Have restrictions on income for people who can take advantage of it.

D

Our hope is that we are able to, rather than let.

D

The market, just naturally you know, decide who gets to benefit from.

D

Investments we are able to place them much more strategically into areas that have not taken advantage of of investments like these in the past, because for lack of capital.

D

So you know we we have some pretty good detail of of the design of this.

D

Happy to share it with you uh talk you through it. um We do think it's pretty.

D

Important, though, to um have.

D

You know public funding really break that cycle.

D

That has been created by the reliance in the past.

D

Largely on self-capitalization of of both.

D

Efficiency projects and renewable energy projects.

J

B

Miss sims did you have anything to add or or is that, going to wrap up the.

B

Staff response to I was just going to add for the program. As you know,.

K

I, like the mayor state, you cannot have quotas and so therefore, but we will be.

K

Doing outreach particularly and minority areas.

K

To get more minority participation in these programs, thank you um other questions from.

B

Council members, councilmember piedmont, smith. Yes, I.

L

Wanted to look at the uh the job subsidy.

L

Portion, uh it looks like there have been some changes.

L

In how the administration would like to distribute that money.

L

Since we first saw this legislation, um as I've said before, I was skeptical.

L

About the five thousand dollar per job subsidy- and I see the bedc.

L

In their memo that we received today also thought that was a bad idea, so.

L

You have reduced that to 75 000 to go to direct job subsidies, but it's.

L

Still in there, so I'm just wondering if maybe mr.

L

Crowley can or or the mayor can speak to the bedc's.

L

Feedback and how uh the revised proposal incorporates.

L

That or not yeah, so I can, unless mayor hamilton, you.

D

Want to go first, no go ahead. I want to thank mr crowley.

C

And and our partners have worked very hard to try to identify what can be done quickly, what can be done.

C

Most effectively and we have tweaked and tailored how that.

C

How that subsidy can help uh accelerate jobs.

C

Overall and particularly, accelerate jobs for, for.

C

Unemployed underemployed, hard folks who we want to help get into the marketplace.

C

And alex has been in the middle of that thanks.

D

So uh we appreciate uh the bdc's uh extensive feedback process. They.

D

Undertook the chamber- uh and we had a session as well with.

D

Their members with a hem, you know a portion of their membership.

D

We also have been uh interacting with uh agencies that are involved in.

D

um You know bringing re-entry into into the workforce.

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In a variety of different ways, so we've gotten some really good feedback over.

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The last week, frankly week and a half um and uh that feedback uh has.

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Has allowed us to understand, you know the weaknesses of of the original design.

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Which was a draft really meant to stimulate discussion and.

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um So I think you know the the memo that the bdc.

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Is is put out was actually reacting to that draft design and, and ours is.

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One iteration further right so so I don't know if that's clear or not, but.

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But they they are reacting the original thing that we had as opposed to the the new. um What's been really, you know, I think.

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uh The points that we took in from all of that uh process that.

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That we undertook, which was again fairly extensive.

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Those points are number one, you know and- and you know this was- this was key, which.

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Is find partners that are already doing the.

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Work and make sure that you tap those.

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Partnerships, there's no need to reinvent anything so.

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Whether it's you know, work one or any number of agencies out there that are doing uh good work already find find those.

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Those processes that exist and are working effectively.

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And double down on those effectively and then.

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You know so that's one number, two, um you know it's important for.

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Us to understand the structural issues preventing someone from advancing.

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um With with wage growth and and a job and and a better job, and so really you.

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Know, depending on the agencies that work the close most closely with the target audiences that were.

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Were helping through these programs is important because they're going to.

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Have a much better infrastructure and an understanding of the dynamic than any.

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You know program this. The city might stand up on its own to try to address this. So you know looking at training.

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Opportunities, that's why you see a lot of apprenticeship and you see a lot of.

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um uh Reliance on training- um that is, that is critical and that's.

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Gonna help not only the individual, but it also help.

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The hiring employer now the reason there's still some money left.

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In that bucket is because what we want to do is incentivize.

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On the back end, the receiving employer not only to really go out of their way.

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To to to to look for uh employees that come.

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Through these, these programs, but also recognizing that you know, um while while.

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People will have been trained, um they come from a long history of of.

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Of challenge and that history just doesn't dissipate immediately and.

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And they become, you know uh uh easy. You know uh employees so so that.

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There's a period of time where, where the, where the uh employer has to.

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um Help the employee work into the system.

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That the employer has- and so we feel that some of the subsidization can be used for that. Finally, you know the the.

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The last sub-component of that has to do with.

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There's a whole cottage industry in the marketplace of people.

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Who are scrapping together, uh you know, uh work by doing odd jobs and.

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They have you know they actually have some some amount of stable income.

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But they are structurally limited in that.

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They either don't have an entity, don't have a you know, don't maybe don't.

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Have the wrap around services of understanding how to run a business.

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Effectively and so they're kind of hitting a ceiling.

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uh When it comes to advancement, and not only for themselves as individuals,.

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But also the advancement of the business that they effectively are running even.

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Though they're not technically running a business per se, so we're looking for opportunities to to really target.

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That group of worker that's out there uh to.

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um Again, wrap around services to them to be able to.

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Formalize their structure, thereby becoming eligible for contracts.

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Governmental contracts for, for example, that they may not be eligible for.

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um And and advance themselves and their entity.

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uh In order to create jobs uh for other people,.

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um uh For the work they're doing, thank you I'll just add uh very briefly.

C

uh Something that's relevant to the whole package as well.

C

We don't know if all of this will work. uh It is certainly a fair question to.

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Wonder um what I would say is uh you know, we're continuing to work with.

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Partners to do it, as as mr crowley described very much, but also. I would just remind you that if, if a particular program does not have.

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Any takers, if, if nobody wants to use a particular down.

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Payment program or a particular grant program that money doesn't get used, it gets reverted, it stays.

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We reallocate it uh another time if we, if we've designed a program that doesn't.

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Have tickers over the next four months, so we hope that's not too common. But if.

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It does happen, we'll be we'll, be uh rejiggering and trying to.

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Figure out how to make it more useful. Okay, thank you. Additional questions.

B

See councilmember scandalary go ahead. Thank you. I've already had a turn for.

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Round one: is there anyone else who wants a round one chance.

F

Nope doesn't look like it. um Thank you for.

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For talking us through that mayor and and mr crowley.

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um Just to clarify in my own head, as I read the the memo you shared on.

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Direct new job support, 75 000. This program will provide additional.

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Support to employers, hiring individuals into the new positions level.

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That emerge from the programs outlined above so the center stone partnership.

F

The coding school and so forth, I assume, do we envision.

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Limiting it to graduates so to speak of those.

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Programs, or will we simply prioritize them or do we not know yet.

C

I think the short answer we we don't know if it may be helpful.

C

In some circumstances it may be useful, but I I think we're trying to stay.

C

Flexible too, if there's a emerging small business.

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That says, I'm I'm ready to hire three people, and- and this would really help me- I will note the bedc, even in their own comments.

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Said well, we're not sure 55 000 will change anybody's mind, but it might make them move faster to hire somebody three or.

C

Four months earlier than they would that's terrific, that's great if we can.

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Get people into the workplace three or four or five months sooner.

C

uh But I think it's going to try to stay flexible with that modest amount unless.

C

Alex, unless alex has some designs on it that I don't know that he's already.

C

Specified everything that's exactly right,.

F

And just a follow-up to that too. Would it be possible- I I don't know if we.

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Could do it tonight or maybe next week, but um I see the chamber on this call and the bdc and others at some point. I'd be.

F

Interested in hearing their kind of updated comments on this updated version uh whenever that's appropriate, so I hope.

F

That would be possible at some point. So thanks.

B

First, I would just yeah invite representatives from those two groups to.

B

Speak during public comment, which we'll have coming up shortly, if they would like and um if there's still more we'd like to hear from them, we could uh pursue that either via email exchange or.

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Perhaps at next week's meeting um I'll jump in with a belated.

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uh First round question: um I.

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I understand where, where customer volun is coming from.

B

With thinking of sort of who's, the most vulnerable.

B

uh You know that we want to help, and I understand that you know we're trying to.

B

Spread spread things out and pursue a lot of different things here, um but I do wonder a little bit in the.

B

Housing context: uh if we've considered rental assistance.

B

Instead, that- um and this may also go to how.

B

We're you know trying to complement and work with other state or federal.

B

Programs- I I'm hearing at some point that the indiana housing and community development authority was going to be allocating uh several million dollars to rental.

B

Assistance um to help folks who were facing.

B

Eviction, um but I think of that, as a little bit more of a a crisis um that is, you know, covet.

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Related uh that has the potential to put.

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Somebody, you know into a uh into homelessness versus.

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uh You know someone who is in a position to purchase a home.

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If they get a bit of down payment, assistance is probably.

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uh Less likely to be someone on you know on the verge of potentially being.

B

Homeless, um so a similar question, I guess about.

B

You know: have we considered rental assistance at all as part of these programs? How does that interact with what else is.

B

Happening out there, um so you can speak to those specifics at all and actually.

B

One other I'll follow up with the related thing in a minute. Go ahead: okay! Well, let me start and then miss sims or.

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Others may went away and we absolutely we've. We've thought about and.

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Talked about uh rental assistance and even particularly eviction protection.

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uh It's incredibly important, uh of course, first round of that is trying to.

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Make sure the state and this and the national governments continue.

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The protections against that and that they continue the macroeconomic supports that will will uh avoid that.

C

I've talked to the county uh officials and in many ways.

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What prompted us not to focus on the eviction.

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Threat, which is a a real threat and absolutely agree that.

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That's one of the worst things that can happen to a household that starts an avalanche of problems. If you get evicted, is the county's commitment already to.

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Support through the township trustee network, which covers our.

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Everybody in the county, all city residents and others.

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uh They've committed a hundred thousand to eviction protection and I expect and.

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They've, well, they haven't formally a announced. I.

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Think they are ready to do more for eviction protection and I think.

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Kind of handing that capacity.

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To to the county-wide and the township trustee.

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System, which kind of has the histic history.

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Of working with folks on these is is really important. Now.

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If it turns out in the future that um evictions.

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Start to happen uh that county-wide resources are not available or not.

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Deployed, I think that is important for us to look at. um I think our judgment is in the next four.

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Months, that's not likely, uh but if it were, I mean it's.

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Possible we'd come back, but we we looked really hard at that because it is a imperative issue, but I think it's handled.

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At that level, well, um I don't know if ms sims has other views about.

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Overall rental protection, I would just say our our assistance as a city.

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To residents is overwhelmingly focused on rental assistance and and.

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Nothing wrong with that. uh That is a great need, but I.

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I do think there is a racial and economic justice.

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uh And frankly, climate justice too, to try to support, start chipping away at.

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This issue of protecting against.

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Gentrification, that's pushing people farther out and trying to help people.

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Have stakes in our community uh that I think this is an important.

C

Part of the recovery.

B

Ms sims did you have anything to add on on that or no.

K

Yes, um so, as you stated council member flaherty, there.

K

Are um the state of indiana uh throughout the state.

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Has um a program that they put in place for uh rental, rent renters to.

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Apply for rental assistance who may have been affected by covet 19 and through.

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Drop loans. We also, as the mayor stated, have the.

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Program that the county provided funding to the township trustees.

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And don't forget township trustees, that's what they do normally.

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Is that they help individuals with rental assistance.

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um And also this past year with the jack hopkins funding, if you could recall.

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Two agencies would receive funding under jack hopkins.

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To provide rental assistance so there's a lot of rental assistance programs.

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That are out there that are taking place, but there's nothing out there for home.

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Ownership- which is why we are presenting tonight.

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These two home ownership programs to help people who are interested in.

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Home ownership um to be able to purchase a home.

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And if you talk about ongoing rental assistance, that's what the section 8.

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Voucher program is that the bloomington housing authority administers they help low-income people to be able.

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To assist them and they pay a percentage of their rental costs.

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Through the hand department, we also offer a program.

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Where we provide security, deposit assistance.

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To people who may move from one place to the next.

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Because one of the things that we found out is that you know.

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When someone moves to a new housing residence, usually.

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As a rental, they require first and last month's rent or security deposit.

K

And the person may be able to come up with the first month's rent, but not the.

K

Security deposit, so we do provide up to five hundred dollars: assistance, rental assistance for someone who are.

K

Needing a security deposit, thank you uh just a quick, related.

B

Follow-Up, I believe there was a discrepancy in the materials we received in the addendum between.

B

The spreadsheet and the um written descriptions one has a breakdown of the.

B

Housing programs as 50 000 for down payment and 400 000 for.

B

The appreciation a shared appreciation program, uh the.

B

Other has a breakdown is 100k for the down payment and and 350k for the.

B

Shared appreciation um homeownership program, so I was just wondering which.

B

Which one is is um uh where the administration's heading.

C

Which would you like? No I'm just kidding, I'm missing. I'm sorry about that.

C

uh It's a hundred, it's basically 10 each. So it's.

C

uh 10 for 100 for the down payment assistance. I guess 8.

C

400 for the uh is that right, no uh maybe 100 and 350.

B

50., I'm sorry yeah, that's the correct split.

B

Thank you, uh council, member volun. I see.

J

Yeah, um I have a follow-up question uh to councilman flaherty's questions.

J

um So we've talked about uh assisting with new homeownership.

J

We've talked about uh assisting with rentals.

J

But I want to go in between there and ask do we know how many foreclosures.

J

There have been uh since the crisis and did we consider the possibility of.

J

Using this money to prevent foreclosures, rather than to help new homeowners.

J

Because I feel like it's sort of a waste to.

J

Add new homeowners when we're losing some other ones because of the crisis.

J

Ms sims, can you shed any light on that? Well, as you know, when the governor.

K

He did a moratorium on foreclosures as well as evictions so and that.

K

Is does not, I think it does not expire until probably the end of this month.

K

So, there's no way to tell at this particular time how many.

K

People would lose their homes because of a foreclosure rate.

K

Because there is a current moratorium on it,.

J

Would you be willing to prioritize assistance to people who already have.

J

Mortgages, rather than helping new mortgages.

K

Well again, the state of indiana has a program.

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For individuals who are it caught, if I think it's called their.

K

Hope program for individuals who may be in.

K

Foreclosure to do uh provide them with funding.

K

To stop the foreclosure process.

J

You know so you're saying that they're already covered.

J

That uh people who are in danger of foreclosure are already.

J

Protected by the state that that our help would not be, it would be sort of.

J

Like the townships like that, there's another level of government that's already addressing that- is that what you're.

J

Saying yes, what I'm saying is the state has a foreclosure prevention.

K

A program for people who are are experiencing, um who are.

K

Delinquent with their mortgage and they may be and going into foreclosure. Mr mayor, the only thing I was going to.

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Say I think you know, we've tried to fill gaps and we've tried to identify uh quick needs that we think can can.

C

Help people and help us recover in the right direction I was. I was only going to note that.

C

In in in shared appreciation, it actually would not be out of the.

C

Question for a family that is facing the loss of a home to refinance a.

C

Home with a shared appreciation structure where a 50 000 loan could help them, keep it. If we're putting public significant.

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Public money in a foreclosure, um significant money. I would like to see.

C

Public benefit out of it too, uh which can come from a long-term.

C

Affordable home, so that they could qualify for that kind of assistance.

C

But I think ms sims has pointed out. The other thing is.

C

You know, I hope the federal government will do. Another cares act round. Another round of support and these kinds of federal monies ought to be there for the.

C

For the big scale, challenges like that, thank you both.

B

um Councilmember piedmont, smith and then we should probably be moving.

B

To public comment soon, maybe we have room for one more question after.

B

uh Council member feedback smith, if if there are any uh second rounds,.

B

I see councilmember bowling, I'm sorry uh sims as well, so go ahead. Councilmember.

B

Piedmont smith. um Yes, I wanted to follow up on this.

L

Question of support for renters.

L

The state programs, I believe, do not forgive any rent, they just push.

L

Into the future, when the rental or the mortgage payments.

L

Would be due so first of all is that.

L

Correct and secondly, why then wouldn't the city.

L

Maybe step up to try to uh help people who are going, who are.

L

Facing a really big rental bill uh in the future.

L

With these delays that the state has authorized.

K

Okay, so if I understand your question, um because you talked about rental and.

K

Then mortgages in the same kind of sentence, so the.

K

State program is my understanding. Is that they're providing funding for renters who are delinquent in their.

K

Rental payments.

K

And that's given as a grant um and it's true with their mortgage.

K

Product that you're talking about um with the state through their.

K

Mortgage foreclosure prevention project, it does.

K

Add on to the loan! So if they're, like thirty thousand dollars behind in their.

K

Mortgage they just modify their mortgage and add.

K

It on to the end of the mortgage.

L

Okay, so uh the rental assistance is in the form of actual grant money, not.

L

Loans, that's my understanding. The state.

K

Program and then for the mortgages, it's it's not.

L

Like they'll have to pay, you know, four months or six months, a.

L

Mortgage in december of 2020, it's just it'll, be added on to the end.

K

Correct so they in essence rewrite the mortgage.

K

um And modify the mortgage and add it on to the end.

K

And spread the payments out for the term of the loan. So if they have another 20.

K

Years on the loan, it spreads that amount over 20 years.

L

Thank you very much. That's a lot better than I thought it was.

L

The state program, thank you, you're welcome,.

B

That's remember: sims go ahead, thank you and if we could quickly go back to the.

E

Coding school at the mail, um one of the things that I.

E

Advocate among many is job creation.

E

While getting a bigger bang for your buck through collaboration and.

E

Partnerships now what I heard today during the conversation between.

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uh One and two from mr patties was that for every one.

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Coding job um that that a person earns there is two or three others created.

E

Downstream, I think the term was or other than that.

E

And I was wondering if we could get an example of what.

E

um Those other non-coding jobs are that would be created from.

E

Hiring a coder, I just think that's good news and I.

E

Didn't get a good idea of what those downstream or other jobs that are.

E

Created would be.

C

Alex what I would say is um pat east, like many talking about.

C

Relatively higher income, jobs and the multiplier.

C

Effect of those in our community, uh I think he mentioned two to three.

C

Other jobs, accelerated and created by by one new net new tech.

C

Job at that kind of higher higher income level and those would.

C

Range of all kinds, from health care to to.

C

Professional services to all other kinds and.

C

Alex crowley- I don't know if you want to you- want to add to that, but.

D

Yeah, so he was talking about the sort of community benefit.

D

Of a new technology job and how that multiplies into the.

D

Community, so not only does the job the technology.

D

Job itself pays significantly higher uh than than other jobs, uh but but.

D

As once, it's established, then the spending power of that job.

D

Helps to stimulate other jobs in the community.

E

Thank you, so we're not talking uh one coding job would create two others on.

E

Down the line, um it's more speaking of the community.

E

Benefit that it would generate and and that.

D

Benefit is quantified in net new jobs in the community. So so you.

D

Know it could be a restaurant job or it could be whatever.

D

You know something something that helps to support the income that is being generated from the from the coding job.

D

Okay, thank you.

B

So unless we have any uh final questions from council members at this time, I.

B

Would like to go ahead and move to public comment.

B

If any members of the public would like to speak to the recover forward program,.

B

And the legislation that we are considering in committee this evening.

B

If you could, please use the raised hand, function.

B

Or just enter something in the chat window and let.

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Let the um let mr lucas, our council, um attorney.

B

Know uh we can get to you if we give it maybe just 30 seconds or so to get an estimate uh of the number of people who would.

B

Like to comment that might dictate uh the amount of time we give.

B

Keeping in mind that we have a transportation committee meeting at 8, 30., so I'll give it just a little bit.

B

See the bedc um page: yes, bdc should be unmuted and ready.

M

To comment and go ahead, we'll we'll just go with.

B

Five minutes max for public comment, um because.

B

It's not looking like a whole lot of folks are wanting to comment and please go ahead. Sorry, just just at the start I'll. Let.

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Folks know that uh we'll enable audio only just to be.

M

Consistent for all uh members of the public, so uh apologies if.

M

uh If anybody was expecting differently but uh go ahead all right, thank you so much um my name.

N

Is jen pearl and I'm the president of the bloomington economic development.

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Corporation and uh for those of you that are listening, online or elsewhere, we're a non-profit that serves all of monroe.

N

County in supporting the creation and attraction of quality jobs across the community- and I just wanted to thank the city of bloomington.

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As well as the staff and council a couple weeks ago, you had.

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Invited our feedback on the recover forward proposal.

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And over the past week we've convened approximately 40 representatives from.

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Our member organizations and key community stakeholders to.

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Discuss specific components of the plan we held small groups as well as a.

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Broader bdc meeting and our participating members represent.

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The private nonprofit and educational sectors.

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In as well as a variety of industries such as small, medium and large.

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Enterprises as well the components of the plan that we.

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Looked at included housing, job creation, subsidies.

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Energy conservation, investments and life sciences, training.

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In terms of our specific feedback, as was mentioned earlier, we shared a memo.

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With both council members and members of the city, and so I'll only really touch.

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On broad brush strokes here, common themes.

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That emerged from all the conversations we had included, first of all, leveraging existing programs to be as strategic as.

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Possible with existing funds, we know that these are you know.

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Relatively small pools of funds spread out amongst many programs for.

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Phase one um so it's sort of hard to make a large.

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Impact we know that there's also follow-on phases that are planned. We're.

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Hearing a fair amount about state budget cuts and other budget cuts.

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Across large entities so to make the most of available.

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Resources the recommendations that we had were.

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To create an inventory of existing resources.

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And promoting, what's available to commun to individuals across the community.

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As well as providing assistance for navigating these resources,.

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There's a lot of information flying around about different programs and it's.

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Often very difficult to navigate, and it would also be key for making sure that.

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The gaps are being plugged here that aren't being covered elsewhere,.

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It's important to note that there are existing funding streams that may apply.

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Across multiple initiatives within recover forward such as next.

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Level jobs from the state of indiana. There are funds there for both employer.

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Training as well as training for individual job seekers, I.

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Know the city has mentioned: there's a work afoot to work.

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Closely with partners across the community to roll out information on existing programs and to implement as well.

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A second piece of uh recommendations we had broadly was to.

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Put aside funding for marketing and staff time.

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um Many of these things involve public education.

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And funding is needed for that to make sure it's really reaching the people who.

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Need it most also ensuring that funding and resources.

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Are available to expand the bandwidth of existing staff.

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At any implementing partners across the community.

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Pretty much everyone is operating at above full capacity right now,.

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And so bandwidth is really going to be important for implementation.

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And then, finally, developing metrics for success and reporting across all.

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Programs, so this is to make sure that the.

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Programs are all having the intended effect, but that were capturing lessons learned from each of the programs and continually.

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Applying them for recovery moving forward in the years to come.

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And staff and time resources should be put aside for that.

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In terms of program specific feedback um on housing, you know we appreciated.

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The work to invest in mortgages and down.

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Payments to help individuals overall, we felt.

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There could be a limited impact with the program and that.

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uh To really tackle uh the core problems with housing.

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It's it's tied to our lack of housing supply in the community.

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As long as there's a lack of housing supply.

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Prices will continue to be high and actually our compliments.

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um Go to ms sims the hand department, because they recently.

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Worked on the housing study, which was just released, we were happy to be a part.

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Of that there's a great list of recommendations in there that we think we should leverage starting in fall. 2020.

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To tackle the supply issues, since it will take some time next.

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On job creation, incentives we as referenced earlier.

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You know job subsidies can sometimes encourage employers to move more quickly.

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But there's a lot of other things that would have a greater impact, such as focusing on promoting existing.

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Financial incentives for job creation, which do exist at the state and.

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Local levels supporting existing workforce training programs.

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Marketing existing high demand, unfilled quality jobs, and I know this was.

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Incorporated into the proposal here for the trades, as well as.

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Addressing barriers to accessing jobs like child care and transit, I know child.

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Care especially, has come up as a major challenge on energy conservation, investments.

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Overall, I think the group had positive feedback.

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But making sure that to reach the widest possible group of recipients, great.

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Applications first on energy audits, followed by an.

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Ami measure keep renter's assistance strong since.

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That could have a big impact make sure that renters and businesses.

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Are not competing against one another and then also ensuring that architects.

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General contractors and engineers are connecting to these programs to make.

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Sure that we're sharing best practices for energy investments and new projects and capturing things that they're.

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Already doing and spreading the word finally on life sciences, training.

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Investments, as mentioned earlier, we recommend.

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Supporting the existing biomanufacturing technician apprenticeship program.

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Which is being delivered by hoosier hills, career center and ivy tech.

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And it's been positively received by local life sciences, companies.

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um And we are obviously really happy to you know, gather additional information.

N

Or if anyone has questions answer those as well? Thank you. Thank you.

B

Miss pearl. um Do we have any others who would like.

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To any members of the public, who would like to make a comment this evening again, you can use the raise hand.

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Function in zoom or write a message in the chat.

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We'll give it maybe another 20 or 30.

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Not seeing any other takers for public comment this evening.

B

So with that, we will go ahead and move back to.

B

um Council members for any additional questions.

B

uh This evening, or um if there are no questions, counseling or comment.

B

Would be appropriate at this time.

B

Would any council members like to ask a follow-up question or make a comment.

B

uh Council member sandberg, I had asked the question last time.

O

About the digital um equity programming um and in the recent week since we have.

O

uh Discussed this I've been in touch with people who say you.

O

Know 35 000 is not a whole lot to invest, and so I'm.

O

Wondering if we can get just a few more details about what the thinking is as to.

O

Where those dollars are going to be applied.

C

um Why don't we have mr dietz respond to that.

C

That's all right, thank you, rick. Thank you, mr mayor.

P

um I think uh yeah you're right 35 000, at least in the scope of what we're.

P

Talking about isn't, uh isn't huge, but one of the things that.

P

We're working on right now, uh part of our.

P

Overall, digital equity uh initiative is the development of a of.

P

A strategic plan, which will uh you know, situate and and.

P

You know provide uh a lot more uh uh context and.

P

And ideas for initiatives to tackle these.

P

Areas but like a number of the other uh initiatives that are part of the the.

P

Recover forward uh package, you know part of the idea is.

P

To partner as closely as we can with uh not-for-profits other organizations,.

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That are doing this work on the ground already um that have.

P

Ideas that they've implemented um in some cases already.

P

Effectively, but under resourced, as well as explore.

P

New and innovative ideas for helping us bridge the the digital uh divide, so.

P

We're looking to uh you know essentially seed and support.

P

Some of those uh existing initiatives and and.

P

And new ideas and uh ultimately to see to see what works and if those things.

P

You know do work. If they are effectively effective, then we may consider.

P

Additional investment in the future. Thank you. Additional council member.

B

Questions or comment.

B

See, council, member piedmont smith go ahead.

L

Yeah, I think there are a lot of great ideas in this proposal.

L

I will be passing today just because I have uh you know, received the.

L

Packet addendum from the administration, as well as the memo from the bedc.

L

Just this afternoon, so I haven't really had time to digest.

L

Both the changes in the proposal and and the feedback from the bdc, which I.

L

Actually understand is feedback from the old draft proposal, so.

L

Anyway, there have been some changes um that I I just need some time to digest.

L

But overall, I think I think, there's some great ideas here.

B

The council member volun go ahead. Yes, um so, as I've expressed, I had a concern.

J

Not about the worthiness of any particular.

J

Item in this proposal, but the prioritization of it.

J

uh What are we spending general fund dollars on.

J

um And in what order uh you know, who should get money? First.

J

uh You know there's nothing here that hasn't been.

J

Something that we've approved in the past, something that uh that some common.

J

Goal that we all have so I want to make it clear that.

J

There's no real disagreement about the objective, the general objectives of.

J

The administration's proposal, but the nature of an appropriation.

J

Ordinance makes it a little bit more difficult.

J

To for a counselor to change it in particular,.

J

Because this is an important piece of legislation.

J

Because it's scheduled for a hearing on august 12th.

J

And because we've already looked at it for a few weeks.

J

um The to delay, it would might mean going as late as.

J

September, 2nd- and we are, of course in an economic.

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Emergency but state law only allows council.

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Members to cut funding from an appropriation ordinance, it does.

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Not allow members to increase funding, and that means.

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If a member wanted to transfer money from one line to another.

J

That would have to be initiated by the administration.

J

So if I'm dissatisfied with something, even though I don't want to cut.

J

Any actual dollars, my only recourse, is to file an amendment to cut certain.

J

Line items in hopes that the administration will change it.

J

I've not filed that amendment, I'm not sure I'm going to.

J

If I did it's primarily because I want to.

J

If I want to oppose a certain prioritization of some dollars,.

J

From one use to another, I think that everyone's heard my.

J

Concern about it, I find the answers for say, foreclosure assistance, satisfactory.

J

I think maybe I'm satisfied with the rental assistance answers. I would still rather see.

J

Us go to more emergency priorities. I don't think that home ownership.

J

Is quite as much an emergency as other items on this list.

J

So I'm going to reserve the privilege of bringing that amendment.

J

Until next week, I feel, like I'm unlikely to do it.

J

But I just wanted people to know my thinking. I am looking forward to.

J

As councilor piedmont smith said, uh studying the.

J

um The documents we received just today, I'm still trying to.

J

uh Par to process everything that we've received.

J

But in general I want to thank the administration for a thoughtful proposal.

J

um You know I I guess, because the word is recovery.

J

I I uh and we're trying to recover forward.

J

I don't think of uh attaining homeownership as a particularly.

J

Recuperative thing it certainly would improve the community.

J

And it's a worthwhile goal, but are there not uh goals that are more.

J

Emergent more urgent at this moment for this particular bill.

J

That's my only question. Thank you all.

B

I'm sorry crunch mother sambar go ahead.

O

Thank you. um I've appreciated all of the information.

O

A lot of it we just received today, I I appreciated reading the very thoughtful.

O

Report from the bedc, as well as the changes in what we're um debating.

O

Tonight um as this, these are reversion dollars.

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And these are dollars that are being redirected. I think in a very.

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um Appropriate way, based on programs that we already have.

O

Partnerships that we already have and if the goal is to reduce.

O

The pain in the next four months, as we deal with.

O

These reversion dollars, I feel very satisfied with what is before us tonight.

O

um I have already been in some initial conversations with our staff about the jack hopkins and how.

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We're going to move forward with that because you know quick is the is the watchword. uh We have these dollars available. This.

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Year and we want to put them to good use this year with respect to the recovery. And while this may not be a.

O

Perfect plan, I think any one of us may reprioritize certain things and.

O

And want to diminish others, but overall, I think this is a good.

O

Good effort and one that I will be happy to support, and so I will be uh voting in.

O

Favor this evening, thank you. Thank you. uh Councilmember.

B

Sims go ahead. Thank you um I'll, be voting in support.

E

Of this as well understanding that it is not a perfect.

E

Proposal um we've had some.

E

Some very nice questions, thoughtful questions.

E

um It seems to me that and they're they're we have the right to.

E

Ask some of those questions, but in many cases it seems to me that.

E

They're on the edge of micromanaging or or coming from another position.

E

But but that's not a challenge, it's just what I'm thinking.

E

I do know that, as the mayor said, we're not sure that all of these will work.

E

There has been thought from staff from community members.

E

From some history of some of the things that we've done so, I think there's a.

E

Good idea that many of them will but there's no guarantee that they.

E

Will, um as councilmember sandberg says,.

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These are reversion funds or in essence, for those that.

E

Need a little help or better understanding from savings.

E

From when it within our operations, um I do believe an american correct me if.

E

I'm wrong that we will tap into some of our reserves in order to.

E

To fund some of these programs, I am really really excited that there is no.

E

Additional request at this time for.

E

Citizen investments, um tax investments at this time. This is an.

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Emergency situation for the next four months.

E

But one of the things that I do know is that.

E

What we're looking at now and moving on into the future.

E

Are some structural issues that are dealing with some of the inadequacies.

E

And some of the inequities that we will talk about, we will deal.

E

With on into the future, this is a good start, it is not perfect.

E

It is not um the end-all be-all.

E

It is a good start again. I am happy to see that we're at least.

E

Touching on at the beginning on some of the structural issues.

E

Within the way we operate so, as I said earlier, I will vote to.

E

Support this or to move it on, so that we can.

E

Get the business of easing the pain of our residents.

E

Moving forward, thank you.

B

Thank you, councilmember sims, other council member comment.

B

um Not seeing any, I can uh go ahead and make a comment and.

B

And if we have others who still I would like to, we can certainly do that.

B

I appreciate the administration and and.

B

Everybody from city staff uh working working so hard on this proposal.

B

And answering our questions, um I feel similarly to some of my.

B

Colleagues, that um there's a lot of good things here and.

B

um It's it's a well thought out program that will have you know. Inevitably.

B

Varying impacts, we don't know exactly how well everything will work.

B

But it is a good start and I think we just need to keep a close eye.

B

On how these various programs and investments.

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Perform and help the community and make sure we're watching for.

B

Emerging needs that either aren't covered by this proposal or gaps that.

B

May exist or emerge coming from county and state.

B

And federal government to make sure we're continuing to be complementary.

B

In that approach, um I am also comfortable.

B

Recommending this um uh positively uh to the full council for next week.

B

Second reading, when it is uh advertised uh so again, thank you to the.

B

Administration and I'll end my comment with that.

B

Are there other council members who would like to comment this evening.

B

I see council member rosenberger go ahead.

Q

Hi, thank you. I just haven't said anything today. So just a quick check in.

Q

To say, I appreciate the work of the administration here I for the most part, I'm on board with.

Q

With this, I also maybe sound like a broken record. If you attended the last.

Q

Meeting but appreciate that this recover forward package also aligns.

Q

Pretty well with our comp plan goals, so I will be recommending it tonight. Thanks.

B

uh Did I see council member smith raise a hand there go ahead.

H

I just wanted to make a quick comment that there's lots of great ideas in this.

H

And, of course, we all might tinker with some of the.

H

Amounts, but it's really it's really uh looking.

H

Like a really good proposal, so I'll be supporting it tonight too, so.

H

Thanks to the administration for all hard work, um it's.

H

It's uh some well thought out ideas, thank you and any.

B

Comment: council, member state malaria should we go ahead.

B

Yeah please, oh thank you. um Yes, thank you. Props um to the administration.

F

And to staff, I particularly like the multi-dimensional nature of this proposal. um Different people.

F

Need different things: different people are suffering in different ways in this downturn um and prioritizing. Those is not easy.

F

I'm going to abstain tonight just because I want to spend more time.

F

With the bdc memo, um which came a little bit later, this.

F

Afternoon but but again I appreciate the work you've done.

F

I appreciate the multi-dimensional ways in which you have thought about this.

F

B

And I would entertain uh any follow-up second round comments from council.

B

Members, if anyone has any point of order, uh please go ahead. Mr.

B

Allen, mr chair, I think that just to procedurally the so uh there's a.

J

Recommendation uh to be called for recommend you pass.

J

And members should say yes, no or abstain, so.

J

You know, that's, that's the motion, that's in order. Thank you.

B

Sure and uh if there aren't any second-round comments.

B

From council members, I would entertain a motion uh on that.

F

Move do you pass second, uh if the clerk, uh if clerk bolden, is.

B

Available and would be willing to to call the role on the motion.

B

Or we could, um I don't know I get confused, sometimes in the world of.

B

Virtual meetings, when our, whether or not we have to call.

B

Our roll call vote from the clerk I'd also be happy to call the role if clerk golden does not. Normally, there isn't a roll.

A

Call but I'll be happy through if you prefer it just for ease.

K

Of uh getting votes.

N

Sure it's different actually all right. Yes, council members, scandalory.

F

Do you mind starting it off not at all I'll staying for this evening.

F

Thank you, okay and rosenberger.

A

Yes, sims, yes, bowling abstain,.

A

Piedmont: smith, epstein flaherty; yes,.

A

Smith, yes and sandberg: yes,.

O

B

uh So I believe that recommendation is five. Yes,.

B

um And three abstain.

B

uh And with that, uh I believe our business for the committee of the whole.

B

This evening is complete uh a reminder. The second.

B

Reading for this legislation will be august, 12th.

A

um Didn't you have to discuss resolution 2012 or did I.

B

Oh sure, I don't know if we're taking a do pass on that, I guess resolutions we.

B

Don't typically hear in committee, um you know we didn't. I guess we.

B

Discussed all of both both pieces of legislation in sort of one comprehensive way is how I was treating the media. Maybe it wasn't clear enough about that at the beginning, uh I I would.

B

Ask for any feedback from uh council president volin or.

B

A council attorney or or uh clerk bolden if.

B

You feel like a do pass motion is appropriate for the resolution as well.

B

um Councilmember rolling ahead, I think that if.

J

uh Unless there are specific questions about the resolution,.

J

That I can wait until regular session, uh but that I would urge my colleagues to.

J

Think separately about the resolution and make sure that they understand.

J

That they don't have any questions that are unique to it.

J

But I would, I would say that it does not require discussion in committee.

E

And I would remind my colleagues, we do have a parliamentarian. I didn't hear her.

E

Mentioned? Yes, sorry, also, probably that's, okay, that's what fine! That's quite fine.

M

I I'll just add that a do pass motion tonight.

M

Would be in order there? There are certainly times when resolutions do come.

M

Before committees and committees provide recommendations given.

M

The the length of time we have before the next committee meeting.

M

It's up to the committee how they want to proceed. um We.

M

The council did hear a presentation on on the resolution.

M

uh I believe two weeks ago now, um so it's right.

M

I am again when I introduced the topic for this evening. I mentioned.

B

Both the appropriation ordinance and the resolution, and and reminded that we were.

B

Considering both of those, I assumed that if any council members had questions about the resolution specifically that they would have asked them, um I.

B

Could have been more clear about that or reminded about that. I suppose.

B

uh Based on unless again, if our parliamentarian.

B

Councilmember piedmont smith has has um additional things to say about it. I'm.

B

Happy to uh you know, follow the guidance that.

B

Council president volin just stated, which is um warf council vice president sam's. If you'd want to weigh in as well as.

B

Leadership, um I'm happy to uh forego the the uh do pass. Recommendation.

B

On the resolution itself, um uh since we.

B

Don't I guess it's yeah a bit anomalous uh hearing the resolution in committee.

B

Does anyone else from leadership council, member piedmont, smith, go ahead.

L

Well, just for the benefit of the public, we might say what this resolution is.

L

That we're talking about sure uh again when I, when I introduced.

B

It um it is, it is uh resolution 2012 also in the.

B

Packet, there is an ordinance 1810 that was passed in 2018 that specifies that the intra category.

B

Within category transfer and expenditure of funds in.

B

Excess of a hundred thousand dollars um in a variety of circumstances must be.

B

uh Approved reviewed and approved by the council.

B

um With a resolution, uh so in particular as part of this.

B

Proposal there is a 250 000 transfer from line 399 other services and charges.

B

To line 396 grants within the housing trust fund.

B

And expenditure of those transferred funds, so that was the detailed version.

B

Of what we're, what we will be considering next week in resolution, 2012.

B

uh So again, unless there is a strong feeling, otherwise, from from anyone.

B

Any council members will forego a do pass recommendation on the resolution.

B

Itself and I believe that will then conclude our business for the committee of the.

B

Whole this evening, uh thank you again so much to mayor.

B

Hamilton and city staff for your presentations and and questions.

B

Answering our questions, uh thank you to the public for being.

B

Here um I would like to remind also that a transportation committee is coming up.

B

At 8 30 on this same zoom link, so folks can hang around and have a.

B

Short break before that and uh chair rosenberger will get that.

B

Underway uh at 8 30., so thank you so much and have a good.

B

Evening, thank you good night. Sarah flaherty appreciate it good night.

H

Thank you very much.

R