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Tonight,
's
bloomington
fire
department,
with
chief
jason
moore
he'll,
also
be
remote
tonight.
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And
then
the
last
of
four
it
will
be
the
city
of
bloomington
police
department,
with
chief
mike.
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John
connell,
you
have
the
floor.
Thank
you
good
evening,
john
connell,
general
manager
of.
B
Hopefully
we
can
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
Oh
sorry,
actually
I'm
really
sorry.
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A
Council
members
and
I'm
going
to
look
to
my
left,
mr
rallo
go
ahead.
You
have
three
minutes.
D
D
Are
they
more
expensive
than
conventional?
Yes,.
D
Don't
not
in
terms
of
routine
maintenance,
their
longevity
longevity
is
yet
to
be
determined.
B
Of
working
on
the
vehicles,
but
as
far
as
you
know,
there's
no
oil
changes.
You
know
things
of.
B
That
nature
simpler
motor,
yes
right
engine,
so
what's
the
potential
for
recharging
with
solar.
B
D
B
Receive
significantly
more,
maybe
in
maintenance
about
when
we
were
bargaining,
we
looked
at.
B
What
our
peers
are
paying
and
the
first
year
there
was
a
significant
bump
to
bring
to
the
starting.
D
That's
quite
a
sum
are
those
multiple
studies,
multiple
studies,
there's
this?
Yes,
two
studies.
D
Yeah-
and
this
is
you
contract
with
the
consultant-
yes,
okay
and
the
cash
reserves
will.
D
D
B
Were
sitting
on
10
million
in
cash
reserves?
So
at
some
point
you
know
we
want
to
obviously
have.
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E
E
For
operators,
salaries
for
other
operating,
you
know,
supervisors
and
administrative.
E
E
In
the
administrative
or
the
salaries
other
operating
category,
yes,
so
we
have.
E
Thank
you.
I
have
one
other
question,
oh
yeah,
so
I'm
looking
at
your
revenues.
E
Breakdown
and
for
passenger
fares,
you
have
a
139
percent
increase
expected
in
revenues
and.
F
Yes,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Mr
connell
first
question
is
about
the.
F
Electric
buses,
my
understanding
over
the
years,
has
been
that
we've
been
reluctant
to.
F
F
Well,
I
know
they're
talking
about
and
jason
batik
of
iu
told
me
at
the
last
mpo
that
they.
F
Apparently,
are
actively
considering
extending
law
lane
so
that
the
bus
can
bypass
the
underpass.
F
Altogether
any
news
on
that
from
your
end,
no,
I
I
I've
heard
that
as
well,
but
I
have
not
heard
a.
B
Modify
existing
routes
to
accommodate
you
know
it
is,
is
definitely
going
to
be
a
challenge.
B
Mr
griffin
seems
to
have
an
answer
for
you.
I'm
sorry,
hey,
hey,
council,
member
volin,.
G
Are
talking
about
to
get
to
get
some
of
the
traffic
off
of
10th
street
provide
easier.
G
Access
to
iu
health
and
to
also
help
us
with
getting
our
electric
and
hybrid
buses
further
east.
F
From
your
slide,
but
I
found
it
here-
is
there
a
reason
that
you
didn't
include,
like
all
the
other.
F
Budgets
did
the
three
prior
years
of
actual,
because
right
now
you
only
have
2022
and
2023.
F
F
The
real
dramatic
change
in
normal
services:
well,
we
could.
We
could
provide
that
to
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
to
my
right
council
member
sims.
H
Or
as
part
of
the
budget
yeah,
okay,
okay
and
I
guess
my
question
is:
what
do
you
and
the
board.
H
H
H
H
Is
you
talked
about
facility
expansion
and
land
acquisition
services,
quarter
million
dollars.
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B
B
B
B
I
B
Is
critical,
that's
really
that's
really
cool
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
ask
about
something.
I
B
B
J
What
would
allow
us
to
be
more
competitive?
It
sounds
as
if
we're
reasonably
successful
now.
J
B
B
B
To
go
to
one
percent
commission
instead
just
kidding
so
yeah.
It's
there's
you
do
your
best.
B
B
B
A
Okay,
one
question:
I
would
like
to
ask:
I've
had
a
lot
of
people
commenting
they
they.
A
Doing
because
bt
transits
just
doing
a
lot
of
fantastic
things,
so
can
you
comment
on
that?
For
us.
B
A
A
Yeah
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
question
you
asked
if
it's
okay,
mr
connell,
the.
F
Are
you
concerned
about
requests
for
other
extensions
of
service,
or
even
that
one?
Well,
that's.
B
B
B
The
fixed
route
network-
and
you
know
adding
a
segment
on
an
existing
route-
may
not
be
the.
B
F
F
Know
the
resolution
that
I've
tabled
assumes
that
any
service
outside
the
city
will
be
paid.
F
B
D
At
grimes
going
to
move,
or
is
this
an
addition
like
you
have
to
be
determined?
We
share
that.
B
Facility
with
iu
campus
bus,
my
understanding
is
campus
buses
pursuing
other
options
as
well.
B
B
D
Offices
for
employees
parking,
bus
maintenance
facilities,
fuel
I
mean,
does
everything
come
with.
B
B
A
A
Indication
to
mr
lucas
and
we'll
have
two
minutes
to
comment
on
the
relevant.
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A
L
L
L
We
can
look
forward
to
as
transformative
and
making
our
community
really
a
a
beacon
of.
L
Good
first
start
and
something
that
I
think
residents
transportation
needs
would
be.
L
A
M
The
first
time
I
heard
about
microtransit
was
during
last
year's
budget
advance
this
year.
I.
A
Okay,
we
will
come
back
to
the
comment
from
council
members
who
would
like
to
go
first.
A
H
H
H
H
B
We
have
one
currently
in
in
on
the
budget.
For
this
year,
we
just
hired
a
person,
it
was
budgeted.
B
B
H
H
D
The
new
revenue
sources
being
utilized
and
and
leveraging
more
federal
funds.
I
think
the.
D
Direction
of
going
to
electric
buses
is
is
very
good.
You
know,
my
only
reservation
is
my
basic.
D
Salary
is
sufficient,
given
the
challenges
people
are
experiencing,
with
inflation,
not.
D
D
Competition
with
private
sector
and
so
forth.
So
but
overall,
I'm
very
pleased
with
the
budget.
A
F
Echo
what
councilman
moralo
has
said.
I
do
think
that
in
particular,
the
wage
problem
is
acute.
F
F
Numbers
that
other
departments
have
had
where
we
can
see
past
performance
just
being
able
to
put.
F
The
2020
and
2021
years
into
perspective
compared
to
2019,
will
be,
I
think,
pretty
important
for
us.
F
And
so
it's
a
little
harder
to
tease
out
the
the
the
operating
costs.
F
Those
figures
as
soon
as
it's
possible
all
at
one
table
and
that
the
chart
will
look
like
the.
F
Other
department's
charts
so-
and
I
just
found
the
memo
that
was
sent
this
morning-
that.
F
Be
passing
on
this
budget
tonight
because
I'm
very
much
hoping
for
some
good
news
between.
F
Now
and
the
actual
budget
boat.
Thank
you
thank
you,
and
I
would
just
like
say
that.
A
E
You
know
advantages
with
going
through
traffic
and,
and
you
know,
being
able
to
prepay
and
all.
E
Occupancy
vehicles
and
turn
a
corner
with
you
know,
climate
change
and
trying
to
reduce
the.
A
N
N
Utilities,
department
budget,
our
budget,
I'm
accompanied
by
several
of
our
senior
staff.
N
N
Our
communications
manager
and
latrina
teek,
who
is
the
is
the
administrator
in
the
in
the.
N
Missy
kerry
of
the
load
on
a
lot
of
the
budget
preparation
this
year
as
she
was.
N
The
interim
a.d
for
finance
for
a
long
time
and
I'd
just
like
to
offer
my
thanks
to
missy.
N
Utilities
and
we
have
six
interconnected
divisions,
our
utilities
with
waterworks.
N
The
sewer
works
and
the
storm
water
utility.
We
have
six
divisions,
administration,
finance.
N
Of
what
should
I
leave
out
environmental
and
administration
foreign
in
2023?
Our
major.
N
N
Services
to
the
winston
thomas
property
down
on
gordon
pike,
that
would
be
a
possible
long-term.
N
Project
in
the
water
works
we
completed
and
implemented
the
2021
rate
case
settlement
when.
N
The
storm
water
utility,
the
current
hidden
river
project,
is
scheduled
to
be
completed
by.
N
February
2023
it
very
likely
will
be
completed
before
then,
but
that's
the
official
completion.
N
N
Expect
to
finish
that
in
2022
and
then
we'll
do
and
also
do
a
review
of
street
sweeping
analysis.
N
We're
looking
into
taking
over
the
street
sweeping
program
and
improving
it
to
handle
the
to.
N
Serve
the
ms4
program,
the
stormwater
program
more
effectively,
we'll
complete
our
stormwater
fee.
N
Review
by
the
end
of
the
fourth
quarter,
and
also
bring
it
to
council,
hopefully
in
november.
N
N
But
they're
all
covered
in
the
memo
in
product
quality,
product
quality
or
the
goal
is
to
provide.
N
N
We
established
a
clear
water
program.
This
is
a
program
that's
intended
to
reduce
the.
N
Amount
of
flows
like
some
pumps
that
are
improperly
connected
to
sanitary,
sewer
or
rain.
N
Gutters
on
homes
that
are
improperly
connected,
we've
been
funding
this
with
contributions.
N
N
Projects
by
eliminating
these
inappropriate
feeds
into
the
plan,
that's
going
to
be
about
800.
N
An
operational
optimization,
the
goal
of
operational
optimization
is
to
make
sure
that.
N
N
N
And
financial
viability
our
objective
in
that
in
the
financial
viability
budget,
category.
N
Is
to
make
sure
that
we
we
may
use,
make
appropriate
use
of
repayer
dollars
that
we.
N
Utility
always
has
the
resources
it
needs
to
deal
with
problems
that
will
arise.
N
Of
efforts
for
next
year,
this
will
we're
going
to
be
doing,
centralized
work
order
and.
N
Condition
with
the
plan
towards
replacement
and
long-term
maintenance
and
reliability.
N
N
The
service
line
we
will,
we
are
collecting
all
of
this
these
data
and
they
all
help
to
inform.
N
A
machine
learning
model
that
will
demonstrate
what
portions
of
the
city
are
most
likely
to
have.
N
Lead
service
lines
and
over
time
we
can
continue
to
refine
this
model
to
to
identify
the.
N
Program
and
what
will
probably
most
likely
do
is
add
the
presence
of
lead
service
lines.
N
N
September
to
to
discuss
what
we're
going
to
do
next,
we're
also
going
to
improve
the
solids.
N
N
N
Our
budget
highlights
we're
in
the
overall
the
water
budget
increases
from
about
my
campus.
N
Okay,
you'll
see
an
11.9
increase
in
revenues
for
water.
The
reason
for
that
is
that.
N
N
For
it
says
about
three
percent
in
the
in
the
proposed
personnel
budget.
N
Council
is
finished
with
the
budget
process
supplies
increased
by
about
40.
That's
mostly.
N
Inflation
in
the
cost
of
chemicals,
and
also
reaccounting
for
all
the
chemical
costs.
N
N
After
we
pay
all
the
other
categories,
it
will
go
down
by
about
11
compared
to
2022..
However,.
N
Expansions
and
capital
improvements,
and
we
just
as
you
know,
council
we
just
sold
bonds
earlier.
N
This
year
and
those
bonds
will
pay
for
the
vast
majority
of
the
projects
on
the
waterside.
N
N
Towards
the
end
of
a
rate
cycle
and
we'll
be
coming
to
you
to
discuss
that
in
a
few
months,.
N
And
then,
finally,
for
the
storm
water
utility
we're
budgeting
for
a
three
percent
increase
in.
N
Personnel
services,
a
two
percent
increase
in
supplies,
two
percent
increases
in
between.
N
Increase
in
other
services,
and
then
our
enr
will
be
up
about
11
percent.
We
will
be
holding.
N
N
So,
in
conclusion,
our
2023
budget
will
support
all
our
stated
goals
of
expanding
climate
action.
N
N
In-House
thanks,
everybody
knows
that
it's
been
a
difficult
time
for
personnel
and
what
you.
N
See
here
is
a
collection
of
some
of
the
people
who
have
retired
or
left
cbu,
since
the
2021
budget.
A
D
D
N
A
late
summer
surge
as
we
did
last
year
last
year,
it
came
a
little
later
in
the
year.
This
is.
N
N
We
are
maxed
out
on
feeding
our
our
activated
carbon
to
the
plant,
so
it
will
probably
be.
N
N
N
Asked
our
staff
to
look
into
the
possibility
for
in
situation
a
treatment
of
the
water
in
the.
N
N
N
N
D
And
the
what
we're
doing
about
that,
you
were
partnering
with
the
local
groups
in
terms
of.
D
N
Lake
monroe
water
fund
and
the
friends
of
lake
monroe
we're
making
cash
contributions
to.
N
The
water
fund
this
year,
the
friends
of
lake
monroe,
we
continue
to
do
a
lot
of
in
in-kind.
N
Organizations
it's
a
good
relationship
and
I
think
we're
making
some
progress.
Changes
in
the.
N
Lakes
seem
to
be
happening
pretty
fast
right
now,
and
we
just
I
think
when
you
have
these.
N
Stretches
of
two
or
three
weeks
with
no
rain
and
the
hot
sun
beating
down.
That's
that's
not
the.
N
O
O
O
N
Where
we've
had
poor
water
quality
conditions,
where
we've
had
leaks
all
those
kinds
of.
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
O
N
So
here's
here's
the
way
it
works.
The
current
project
that
we're
doing
began
in
february
of.
N
2021
it
had
a
two-year
planned
project
life,
so
it
would
complete.
In
february
of
2023.,
we.
N
Appear
to
be
on
on
schedule
to
get
done
sooner,
they
have
opened
4th
street,
they
have.
E
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
kelson.
I'm
sorry
you're
under
the
weather.
E
It
looks
like
the
the
general
increase
is
three
percent
for
salaries,
so
I'm
trying
to
match
that.
E
With
what
you
said
came
from
the
controller's
office,
which
is
five
percent
and
the
controller's.
N
E
N
N
To
you,
we
we
made
a
number
of
requests,
but
I've
forgotten,
which
ones
they
were
that
were
finally.
N
E
Oh
well
I'll
share
that
one.
That's
a
locator,
that's
a
person
who
goes
out
and
does
locating
or.
N
To
do
a
project
we
have
to
get
out
there
and
locate
that
pipe
right.
Now,
projects
have
been.
N
N
N
E
Gotcha,
thank
you
in
my
remaining
seconds.
I
wanted
to
ask
about
the
bond
payments
that
are
in.
E
E
E
In
the
coming
year,
or
what
exactly
those
figures
meant,
I'd
have
to
look
at
the
table
again.
It's.
N
N
E
Just
clarify
what
this
list
of
figures
is
on
page
15
of
your
memo,
mr
underwood.
Sorry,
I'm.
P
Getting
into
my
time
question,
the
five
percent
was
applied
to
all
the
utility
non-union
salaries.
Q
Council
members,
mr
roller,
did
you
need
a
follow-up
or
was
your
question
answered.
D
I'll
follow
up
at
some
point
with
a
written
question.
I
think,
because
I.
N
Just
one
more
thing:
council
member
sandberg
asked
about
the
the
third
phase
of
the
the.
N
Next
phase
of
the
hidden
river
project,
we
are
hopeful
but
we're
not
making
any
promises.
We
are.
N
N
The
pieces
fall
in
the
right
place.
We
would
be
able
to
begin
that
project
in
2023
and
also.
N
A
A
Will
ask
mr
lucas
to
will
you
make
that
great
announcement
about
being
able
to
do
it
online.
A
A
Comment
on
from
council
members,
councilmember
sandberg,
I
have
the
utmost
respect
for
all
of.
O
O
O
I
I
have
appreciated
learning
from
all
the
good
people
from
utilities.
From
my
first
experience.
E
As
I
mentioned
yesterday,
it,
it
disturbs
me
quite
a
bit
that
there's
no
placeholder
in.
E
This
budget
for
a
wage
increase
for
them,
even
though
they're
I
there
will
be
a
wage
increase.
E
We
just
don't
know
what
what
it
will
be,
and
so
I
just
I
just
can't
in
good
conscience,.
E
E
Underwood
that
usually
the
labor
contracts
that
are
concluded
after
the
budget
process
results
in.
E
E
To
say
we're
not
putting
anything
in
the
budget
for
this,
which
rubs
me
the
wrong
way
so
anyway,.
E
That
give
a
an
equitable
wage
increase
for
asking
employees.
Thank
you.
D
Non-Union
employees,
whether
that's
sufficient,
otherwise,
I
think
that
the
work
that
you're.
D
Very
pleased
with
so
I
hope
we
can
get
clarity
before
we
have
to
pass
this
budget
in
the.
D
F
H
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
director
kelson.
I
hope
you're
feeling
better.
F
R
R
R
R
Trucks,
training
and
education,
which
prepares
us
to
do
our
job
prevention,
which
is
that
getting
out.
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
Certifications
is
how
we
maintain
keeping
up
with
what
is
required
to
be
in
our
jobs.
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
Pro
qa
is
how
we
have
gotten
from
when
I
was
here
at
the
very
beginning,
where
we
sent.
R
R
R
R
R
Could
take
a
picture
of
it
and
send
it
to
us
or
where
we
could
have
you
know
just
just
a
lower.
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
Fire
marshal,
I
want
to
point
out
that
one
of
the
the
things
that
stands
out
from
a
fire
service.
R
R
R
R
R
Also
have
increases
in
there
for
paying
rent
on
our
temporary
fire
headquarters,
knowing.
R
R
1.5
almost
1.6
million
dollars.
It
is
an
increase
of
36
percent
again
years
that
we
buy
a
truck.
R
That
we're
looking
to
do
42
500
for
a
fire
gear,
washer
we're
maintaining
the
firefighting.
R
R
R
R
Marshal
and
then
there
are
two
new
electric
cars
one
would
be
solely
dedicated
to
the
community.
R
R
R
Again,
we're
just
trying
to
keep
these
stations
decent
and
working
until
they
can
be
replaced.
R
R
R
Yes,
you
know
part
of
that
is
making
sure
that
we
are
nearing
what
our
population
that
we
serve.
H
Okay,
what
is
the
the
population
of
under
underrepresented
members.
R
H
R
R
Is
okay,
thank
you
and,
and
just
to
be
clear
when
I
discuss
that
with
you
or
our
other.
H
R
R
R
We're
getting
good
training!
Okay!
Thank
you
with
regard
to
integrated
health
care,
and
I
guess
I'm.
J
Insurance
question
that
council
member
sims
asked
do
we
know
about
how
many.
R
R
J
How
do
you
set
an
amount
to
bill
someone
for
that?
I
would
be
interested
in
knowing
what.
R
R
R
R
R
J
I'll
hold
some
additional
questions
for
the
second
round
and
I'll
finish
up
then.
Thank
you.
A
O
Enough
to
take
me
on
a
tour
after
the
flood
of
june
and
21
as
to
the
station
that
got.
R
R
R
R
E
Yes,
I'm
very
interested
in
the
mobile
integrated
healthcare
program
and
I'm.
E
Bit
about
the
qualifications
you
look
for
for
people,
employees
in
this
program.
R
R
R
R
R
R
E
R
And
it
is
fully
electric,
not
even
it's
not
even
a
hybrid,
it's
a
full
electric
bid.
A
J
R
R
R
R
R
R
J
H
H
So
and
I
understand
with
the
the
challenges
we're
having
of
even
hiring
entry-level
people.
H
H
Is
part
of
what
you
expect
to
find
through
this
study?
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
trying
to.
R
R
R
A
Mr
lucas
remind
the
public
that
you
can
send
a
note
in
chat.
You
can
send
an
email
to
the
council.
A
H
H
City
services,
you
know,
protect
and
serve
if
you
will
and
take
care
of
you
know
that
sort
of
thing.
H
A
A
A
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
Important
position
we
have
24
openings,
we
struggle
to
hire
it's
a
full-time
job
anymore.
That.
S
S
S
S
Patrols
and
they
also
help
us
at
community
events
and
lastly,
on
our
request
for
new
personnel.
S
S
So
I
mentioned
just
a
minute
ago
about
our
retention
initiatives
on
this
on
the
screen.
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
If
they
violate
use
of
force
policies
and
turn
off
body
cameras
during
during
certain
incidences.
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
Well,
probably
not
so
much
anymore,
but
we
used
to
get
like
back
calls.
Somebody.
S
S
This
is
an
increase
of
one
million
590
598
from
2022.
The
the
majority
of
this
increase
is
due.
S
S
S
We've
we've
increased
the
number
of
the
amount
of
storage
and,
unfortunately,
the
price
has
gone
up.
S
S
Service
for
the
new
building,
the
rest
of
the
increases
are
due
to
fuel
fuel
cost
and
inflation.
S
S
To
answer
any
questions,
thank
you
chief
decoff,
council
member
rallo,
thank
you
chief
decoff,
so.
D
D
Improved
to
the
situation
in
terms
of
recruitment
incentives,
even
though.
D
We
we
did
deploy
a
five
thousand
dollar
pay
increase.
What
will
be
the
base
pay
after
the.
D
Well,
that's
that's
somewhat
favorable!
So
looking
at
incentives
and
looking
at
ways.
D
In
which
we
could
provide
incentives,
you
know
I
realized
that
non-sworn
officers
can.
D
S
The
additional
community
service
specialist
is
to
actually
expand
the
hours
they
work
from.
S
Approximately
seven
in
the
morning
to
eight
pm
at
night
and
we
still
are-
are
busy.
You
know
with.
S
The
additional
positions
we
will
be
able
to
expand
the
number
of
hours
that
that
program
runs.
S
Officers
to
do
more
so
that
that
is,
that
is
the
goal
and
the
intent
with
adding
those.
S
D
S
Incentives
are
relatively
new
and
we
have
not
had
much
success
as
we
do
hiring
processes
getting.
S
S
S
Have
had
we,
we
are
talking
about
hiring
someone
in
the
interim
until
we
can
hire
a
full-time.
S
D
Deputy
mayor,
did
you
please
yeah?
Thank
you
in
regards
to
the
in
regards
to
the
recruiter.
G
G
Community
we've
got
a
great
police
force.
We're
we're
working
on
got
excellent,
excellent.
G
Equipment
we're
working
on
our
building,
so
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
think
we're
really
sellable.
A
J
The
khalia
report
that
you
referenced
for
reaccreditation
is
that
available
online.
I
did.
J
A
quick
look-
and
I
couldn't
find
it
we're
still
waiting
on
getting
the
final
report
from.
J
This
body
as
well,
yes,
thank
you.
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
spend
a
little
bit
more
time
on.
J
J
S
Yeah,
what
I've
seen
across
the
country
is,
I
think,
it's
becoming
a
kind
of
a
one-upsmanship.
S
Dollar
signing
bonuses,
and
so
you
know
we,
I
I
believe
we
are
offering
the
right
incentives.
S
Is
dealing
with
is
trying
to
hire
people?
I
can't
think
of
any
of
my
colleagues
around
the.
S
National
problem,
you
know,
I
I
get
all
kinds
of
of
daily
police
briefing
type
emails
and
it's.
S
S
S
S
J
S
S
S
J
O
O
O
S
Is
something
that
we
didn't
have
for
many
many
years
where
most
police
agencies
in
indiana
did.
S
S
S
S
So
that
is,
that
is
a
really
nice
attractive
part
of
it.
You
know
we
struggle
with
parking.
S
S
S
In
those
those
facilities
that
help
them
do
their
job,
so
it
is
really
important
and
so.
S
You
know
it's
it's
going
to
take.
It
is
going
to
take
some
time
it's
going
to
take
some
time
as.
S
We
evaluate
it
and
then
you
know
it'll
take
time
to
to
remodel
it.
You
know:
we've.
S
Hired
at
bpd
a
very
long
time
ago,
we
had
just
moved
into
the
basement
of
the
justice
building.
S
S
S
E
E
E
E
A
Council
member
thanks
mr
chair
chief,
jacob
thanks
for
the
presentation.
Just
one
question.
F
How
many
square
feet
roughly?
Does
the
police
department
have
now
and
how
many.
F
Square
feet
is
department,
shooting,
for
it's
got
20
000,
a
half
of
that
is
in
the.
G
Basement
the
current
police
station,
the
cfc
side
of
showers
is
64
000
square
feet.
G
000
square
feet,
I'm
sorry
and
and
ten
thousand
square
feet
above.
G
Ground
and
ten
thousand
square
feet
in
the
basement.
At
the
current,
a
police
station.
F
So
but
the
fire
department
would
also
need
some
of
that
space
if
they're
not
right.
That's
true.
G
G
Portion
of
station
one,
so
what
you're
saying
is,
while
it
could
be
headquarters
for.
F
The
fire
department-
it's
largely
going
to
be
the
all-in-one
headquarters
for
the
police,.
F
So,
in
other
words,
what
you're
saying
is
this
isn't
just
a
place
to
relocate.
G
That's
why
it
that's
that's
why
we
had
to
had
to
at
least
pursue
it.
Its
proximity.
G
F
Would
it
be
enough
how
much
space,
in
other
words
chief
takeoff,
has
said
you
know
when
we.
F
You
know,
are
you
thinking
about
this
next
headquarters?
Is
it
50-year
so
for
a
20-year.
S
The
public
safety
architect
is,
they
have
experience
in
evaluating
that,
and
so
I've
had.
A
Second
round,
thank
you.
I
don't
know
who
to
direct
this
question
to,
but
I'm.
G
Total,
or
or
just
per
year,
the
first
year
was
approximately
it
was.
There
was
two.
P
Different
percentages,
one
was
for
the
upper
level,
was
over
12
percent
and
for
the.
G
As
well
or
that's
just
the
first
year
well,
I
was
mostly
concerned
about
next
year
that.
D
This
coming
year,
2023
but
yeah,
could
you
do
you
have
that
information
jeff.
P
P
A
D
A
Yes,
thank
you,
chief
chief
kauf.
In
the
last
several
years,
we've
made
some
investments
in.
J
J
Department
sure
what
you're
seeing
so
we
now
have
a
total
of
three
police
social
workers
that.
S
S
S
S
S
I
believe
is
is
kind
of
the
one
of
the
new
things
in
policing.
Our
next
police
social
worker.
S
S
S
Background
working
with
the
officers
when
we
do
crisis
negotiations
hostage
negotiations,
things.
S
Like
that,
they
offer
a
little
bit
different
perspective,
so
melissa,
the
lead
social.
S
S
S
S
O
O
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
A
Member
raul
for
round
three
just
quickly,
I
wondered
about
the
use
of
the
search
vehicle.
D
In
the
past
year,
I
I
seem
to
recall
one
with
a
our
possibly
armed
active
shooter
that
was
in.
D
D
S
Matrix
is
done
every
time
that
there
is
a
request
for
that
to
make
sure
it
meets.
S
Our
policies
and
what
we've,
what
we've
set
forth
in
those
policies
as
to
its
deployment?
Okay,.
D
D
A
K
I
do
have
one
message
from
sam
dove:
who
has
a
comment
haven't
received.
A
Comments
do
we
have
final
comments,
council,
member
rallo,
thank
you
well,
overall,
I
would.
D
Say
well,
my
primary
concern
is
the
lack
of
recruitment,
and
I
realize
that
we're
in.
D
We
had
hoped
the
base
salary
has
increased
and
it's
increasing
at
a
healthy
amount.
This
year
it.
D
Looks
like
it
will
trend
down
in
the
coming
years.
I
wonder
if
we
should
refashion
the
incentives.
D
O
O
Is
another
one
of
my
concerns:
the
feasibility
studies,
the
due
diligence
that
are
going
on.
O
O
H
H
H
H
H
With
some
of
the
things
that
we
did
to
kind
of
get
to
where
we
want
to
recruit
people.
H
H
H
H
As
we
move
forward
and
let
me
look
through
my
notes,
make
sure
I
didn't
forget
anything.
H
More
details,
as
we
move
forward
to
final
voting
on
on
this
budget.
A
A
C
A
A
Oh,
oh,
so
thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
your
presentation
and
was
there
something
else.